Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE MENU (LIVE!)

Episode Date: December 7, 2022

Ralph Fiennes, Nicholas Hoult AND Anya Taylor-Joy?? Yes, Chef! We're recapping THE MENU and ordering Papa John's after. Join us! This episode is edited from a live, online show Tickets to the... live show are available until December 10th here. TRAILER Recap starts @ 17:18 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Get your merch here. Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. December 10th. You can buy that at moment.co slash tsdw. And a little announcement is that we are now selling merch. You can check out the available merch at too scary didn't watch.com. We have shirts, sweatshirts, totes with a very cool design by Ella Tolkien, and we think you're going to like it, so be sure to check it out. And with that, please enjoy this episode. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Okay, we have to wait a minute. I think this will play. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Hi! How do we know? How do we know? There's no way to know. We just have to hope. I think it's happening. Maybe it's happening or maybe we're just going to sit here and pretend that we're doing a show. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary to Watch.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Maybe. Or a recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies. And so I watch them so that you don't have to. And here we are. Here here we are all three of us in person we're together oh my god it feels good it feels good it feels right thank you
Starting point is 00:01:52 it was very crazy getting set up for this tonight we used to always do it like this it's true we used to always do it like this around a living room. After work. After work. We would have a few bottles of wine. Sometimes we would. Hey, on that note, cheers. Cheers. Cheers. And to all of you maybe who are watching this, we hope
Starting point is 00:02:17 thank you for being here. Her mic is working. Henley's mic is not working. Cheers. Henley's mic is not working. Oh no.'s mic is not working oh no oh no why would that be the case i don't know i don't know what do you think is it not plugged into something joel is it still not working i don't know if anyone can hear me out there um but if you can i just want to let you know that i did wake up super early this morning. I did get on a flight from New York. I did fly all the way here.
Starting point is 00:02:49 It went immediately to Emily's house where I just took a shower and changed and I'm now doing this. So I feel kind of all out of sorts, but the gleaming light in my life was that Sallyally field was on my flight oh my god i forgot can anybody hear it i can't hold on we've been informed via joel if maybe you heard that maybe you didn't that nobody can hear henley and we don't know we don't know if that's true and we don't know why it's true i could try plugging it back in. Unplugging and plugging back in. We could share a mic. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:27 We could share a mic. We could just do that. We could do that. You just got to share for sure. You just got to share for sure. At least it's getting picked up ambient on your mics. That mic's cooked. The mic is cooked.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Okay. We're putting the mic down. Perfect. We'll share. Thank you, Joel. Thank you, Joel. Okay, we have to share I'm sorry Sammy I just wanted to okay you guys
Starting point is 00:03:49 We can also share see And this is why it's good to be Together because when you're Together you can have each other out Do you guys remember how somebody left a review Saying that I sound drunk all the time and every now and again I'm like I get it And I just need to let you guys review saying that I sound drunk all the time? And every now and again, I'm like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And I just need to let you guys know that I'm not drunk all the time. I'm never drunk when we record lately. As we said at the beginning, we were sitting around a couch sometimes. Like currently, like I hear what my voice is doing. I do hear it. I'm not drunk. No, absolutely not. No.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And you are the life force of this podcast. And if you were to ever change anything about yourself, I would quit immediately. Thank you. I wouldn't know what to change because if I were drunk, I could just not get drunk. But that's not what I am. And so that's not what I can do. Anyway, nobody heard you before, Henley. So you should tell everybody the exciting news about your flight.
Starting point is 00:04:35 OK. The only thing I wanted to say, in case you guys missed it before, was that the most spectacular thing happened to me today, which is that I got to be on the same flight as Sally Field. National treasure, Forrest Gump's mom. Like she was right there, right in arm's reach. And she was a delight. Like I didn't interact with her at all, obviously, but I did stare at her quite a bit. And I just have to say chef's kiss to Sally Fields being out in the world really made me feel like my life is a very strange thing to be like in her presence at all. You know, I felt blessed.
Starting point is 00:05:19 We love to see it. I felt blessed. Tammy, any thoughts? How close were you to her? So, oh, my God, you're you're gonna blow my spot which is that i am here on a work trip and so she's so so i got to fly first class don't hate me don't hate me i hate myself a little bit i'm jealous i know it was i don't it's really fucking crazy i had one of those fly back seats Feet up anyway
Starting point is 00:05:46 So I was really close because she was sitting right next to me This is like fitting in with the menu You'll have to see what your fate would be I know I deserve it I deserve what's Coming to me I get it okay I'm gonna give the mic away now Bye So yeah we are recapping the menu
Starting point is 00:06:01 I also just this is gonna be happening Yeah we've got a cat on a Yeah we've got a cat on a lap We've got a cat in a lap This is sweet Mabel This is gonna be happening in some capacity for any of us at any point So um Sorry or you're welcome There's four cats in the house
Starting point is 00:06:16 She's probably the only one who will make her presence known tonight But we'll see But yes we are recapping the menu Let me tell you about it It's in theaters now directed by mark mylod written by seth reese and will tracy starring ray fines anya taylor joy her name is anya oh that's right i really hate that that's it it's her name i'm not allowed to Disagree with how it's said But everybody says Anya It's like Anna Faris
Starting point is 00:06:49 Everyone says Anna Faris But Anya shouldn't be it Wait, say it again, what is it? Anya, the way that she tells it to people Is it's like Anyarism So that's how we can all remember She needs to find a better way to It's like Anne
Starting point is 00:07:04 Rihanna is also Rihanna It also is Rihanna So she should say it's Anya like Rihanna That's better yeah But then also nobody will say it because nobody says Rihanna Right true It's Anya like not It's not like Aneurysm though because then it would be like Anya
Starting point is 00:07:20 Anya That's not even right Drag her Drag her it would be like anya anya do you know what i mean yeah and let's that's not even right drag her yep uh nicholas holt no controversy with that pronunciation love it hong chao and john leguizamo and a lot of other people it's an ensemble cast and i thought if i wrote them all down would be here all night possibly emily and I went to see this film together. We did. This is like the team, some of the team behind Succession.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So a lot of, yeah, a lot of cast from Succession. You'll see a lot of like familiar faces from Succession. Very Succession vibe, just in terms of like aesthetic. Mark Maillard has directed a bunch of episodes of Succession. Some of the very best episodes of Succession, in my opinion. My law has directed a bunch of episodes of succession Some of the very best episodes of succession In my opinion Not the same
Starting point is 00:08:08 Team behind the I'm so worried Joel's gonna come in here and tell us Something's wrong I keep like looking behind me Not the same Screenwriter as we get in Succession which is All I'll say about that um but we we did see it i i
Starting point is 00:08:30 did go into it thinking um this isn't gonna be scary like i'm i was like oh there's no way like it's it's one of those things where it's like and um i had to look away several times i would say it's not like scary but it's tense and violent. And so I did have to look away. There's a lot of gore happening. A lot of knives. It's a lot. Well, chefs, a lot of knives. A lot of knives and a lot of just like this feeling of like,
Starting point is 00:08:55 you know, yeah, like what's it? You know, that sort of vibe. So we're going to tell you about it. What do you know about it? We're not going to watch the trailer because trailer because again i don't know how and it gives away too much i know nothing about it i know it's about well i know it's about wealthy people eating out which is a favorite it's about which is a favorite genre of mine yeah this is it's complicated in a restaurant um my question to you is do you prefer ray fines in this role or as voldemort i i kept seeing voldemort in moments
Starting point is 00:09:36 i'd be like oh it's voldemort it's voldemort same and and let's get to it rave rave okay so i looked it up i watched pronunciation videos because it's spelled Ralph. Spelled Ralph. Spelled Ralph. It's spelled Ralph. I used to say. What's up with British people? I used to say Ray.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And I think it's because his last name is Fines. So the. Rafe Fines. Rafe gets lost in the Fines. Rafe Fines. It's Rafe Fines. Rafe Fines. I just took a big Uh oh
Starting point is 00:10:09 I just took a big breath To prepare myself To say Rafe Fines And I choked Couldn't do it Oh boy He is Absolutely excellent
Starting point is 00:10:22 In this He's so good in this What an actor You know What a true Fucking actor He's so good in this. What an actor, you know, what a true fucking actor. He's so good. And don't make me choose, you know, this and Voldemort. I take them both. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Yeah. People also don't like that we talk about Harry Potter so much. So I'm sorry that I brought that up. I keep bringing it back. We are millennials. Um, it's just what it is. Well, I'm, yeah, I don't know anything else and i'm really really curious to know what happens in this film i can't wait do we have trivia we do but is there something
Starting point is 00:10:53 we should do first yeah let's do that first yeah we got a little surprise we have a little a little announcement um we have merch merch baby merch merch merch um got some merch coming some t-shirts long sleeve t-shirts crew neck sweatshirts all things on your upper half with a beautiful design by ella tolkien who did our podcast cover art she's incredible so cool and should we describe the image that it will be? Okay. Should I describe it? Yeah, you can describe it. So it's, um, a la the, uh, iconic VHS cover for our favorite film, Poltergeist, the one that we were all haunted by as children walking through the halls of movie King or blockbuster. Um,
Starting point is 00:11:47 and you know, it just has our logo on it and has an adorable little girl with a creepy, nasty little nightgown on her hairs and pigtails. It is. There's a surprise little item next to her. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna tell you what that is. You're just gonna have to find that for yourself.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Anyway, I love it. I'm going to find it you're just gonna have to find that for yourself anyway i love it scavenger hunt um i'm gonna buy it in every uh option that there is there's a t-shirt a long sleeve t-shirt a crew neck and a tote bag and a tote and a tote yeah we're very very excited it's been a lot we've long wanted to do this wanted to have great art make it count um and and we're not this is a somewhat limited release potentially um and it will go up it will go up on our website after this show and so you will be the first to know that there is merch available to scared and watch.com to scared and watch.com um okay on this on that note let's get back let's get back back in the menu we got 89 on rotten tomatoes a 71 on metacritic 7.5 on imdb budget 30 mil it's made 37 million so far that's more it's more not a lot more so yeah it's hard not to talk about all of our thoughts about the
Starting point is 00:13:09 movie yet but we will and that we will we will that's what we're here to do um okay i'm gonna give us should we do some trivia let's do some trivia let's do some trivia okay um okay so here's some trivia about this movie number one screenwriter will Will Tracy came up with the idea of the story while visiting Bergen, Norway, when he took a boat to a fancy restaurant on a nearby private island and realized they were stuck on the island until the meal was done. So, you know, nobody likes to be stuck. Pretty scary. Pretty scary. The lavish food layouts Were prepared by renowned French chef
Starting point is 00:13:46 Okay I'm gonna try to say this Dominique Crenn Pretty good The only female chef in the United States To attain three Michelin stars Wow And she, Joel and I have been watching a lot of Top Chef I think it's, I talk about it as much as you talk about
Starting point is 00:14:02 Vampire series But she's in there every now and again. And she's fucking cool, man. She's cool. Yeah. And the food really does look beautiful. They do a really, really beautiful job. Which, on that same note, the second unit director is David Gelb, who is the director of Chef's Table.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Okay. And Jiro Dreams of Sushi. Just a lot of food programming and so they really wanted to bring that to um this movie which makes sense and i think they did that we got a casting what if love a casting what if tell us tell us in 2019 emma stone was attached to play the lead role with alexander payne directing and then in 2021 anya taylor joy like anya rism stone and mark my lod replaced for direction filming began on september 3rd 2021 in savannah georgia and filming it happened on the jekyll island shore so that's
Starting point is 00:15:07 the only jekyll island is a scary me yeah it's very spooky it's spooky it's pretty spooky spooky it's a spooky island um there are 12 dining guests just like the apostles in the last supper that was clearly done on purpose everybody knows you think of the number 12 you go oh the apostles last supper i know that number 12 from somewhere and it's not eggs okay okay that's enough what if the trivia was It's 12 guests dining Like the amount of eggs in an egg carton Could be
Starting point is 00:15:51 Could have been To represent I don't know Their individual lives Oh my god Oh boy okay In the beginning of the film The customers are led to the restaurant
Starting point is 00:16:08 By Elsa and a few goats Wait you guys Really held out on me There was no mention of goats You have not mentioned goats once Have you heard of Henley What's called a Judas goat Of course I've heard of a Judas goat
Starting point is 00:16:24 Who has not heard of a the left and right not heard of a judas i have not heard of a judas goat let me tell you what a judas goat is a judas goat is a goat used to keep cattle and other livestock calm while being led onto trucks and into slaughter houses sorry henley said who hasn't heard of a judas goat there's people that haven't had you i hadn't i was completely bluffing i'd never heard of it i'd never heard of it but you got me so good i was like i felt like an idiot i don't know what a fucking judas code is well now you do now we all do now we all do okay good that that's really fucked up that's like a fucked up thing i mean that doesn't know what it's doing it's just like around you know yeah but i mean do you think it learns after a period of time
Starting point is 00:17:05 i don't know i don't know i'm sad um that is all the trivia i have so i think maybe we just talk about this movie i think we talk about the movie let's talk about it let's go i'm dying to know. Okay, well, we'll give the caveat that this is a new release. We saw it just the one time. We're going to do our best. Yeah, we are. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. We're going to do our goddamn best.
Starting point is 00:17:36 So we start on a dock with Nicholas Holt and Anya Taylor-Joy. They are Tyler and Margo. And they are about to board a boat to go to a fancy restaurant. So this is the meeting spot to be taken. I call it a small yacht.
Starting point is 00:17:54 A small yacht. A mini yacht. Not a mini yacht, if you will. And so we're seeing other of the guests that are arriving. And Nicholas Holt, I can't emphasize enough how annoying he is in this movie. Never for one second is he likable. A note, I have.
Starting point is 00:18:17 It made me like Nicholas Holt the actor less. Yeah. Like I felt mad at Nicholas Holt. Yeah, and I like Nicholas Holt. Me too. Not in this one. And I like Nicholas Holt. Me too. Not in this one. And I just hated him so much in this. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Okay. So he's, he's very, like he's in this scene. He's a foodie and he's obsessed. He's like recognizing everyone. He's like, oh my God, that woman is a food critic. We see there's this food critic, Lillian and her editor, I think they're coming and it's like, he's like losing his shit over that. There's a rich old couple. Yes. Okay. I have, I have. They're coming and it's like, he's like losing his shit over that. There's a
Starting point is 00:18:45 rich old couple. Yes. Okay. I have, I have the list of everybody. So there are 12 diners total getting on this yacht. Like eggs. And Nicholas Holtz and Anya Taylor-Joy, they're a couple. Yes. They, they, yeah, they are here together. Okay. She is his date to this experience. He led the charge. Okay. Is he, is he like a foodie person in life like in real life no no sorry i mean like is his job is he does he have a job we don't hear it we don't get it but i think he's just no i think he's just like obsessed with food uh a little like a rich kid because he does say that it's um 12 50 uh 12 dollars and 50 cents at 1,250 per person To do this dinner Oh Jesus
Starting point is 00:19:25 Okay Wow So these are all The rich rich richy Rich people Got it And on So the other guests
Starting point is 00:19:31 For the night So it's It's the two of them Margot and Tyler Then it is Lillian A food critic And Ted her editor There is yeah
Starting point is 00:19:39 A famous actor Who apparently his character He based his character Off of Steven Seagal So it's like a Sort of washed up actor And his assistant That's like a sort of Washed up actor and His assistant this that's john Leguizamo that's john leguizamo
Starting point is 00:19:49 Um yeah an older couple Their names are richard and annie Lebrant um and Then there are three just Like finance tech Douchebags like you know That that kind of guy Um and so that is everybody on the boat as people
Starting point is 00:20:06 are getting onto the boat margo seems to recognize the older man richard lebrant and does a little like oh shit like looks away and they don't make eye contact but we are led to believe there is some sort of they she doesn't want to see him there uh so they get on the boat And They are served An oyster but not just a regular Oyster it is an oyster with Like I don't know Foam on it Whipped
Starting point is 00:20:34 Can we talk for one second about foam Yeah we should It's like I mean maybe 10 years ago it took the scene In all kind of like high class yeah they're doing a lot on top chef of uh 2012 like does anyone actually enjoy the i'm not rich enough to have ever actually had foam i don't like the foam and they're doing like they do like olive oil uh powder instead of actually like no no no i want the i want it in the medium that it was
Starting point is 00:21:04 originally in yeah i don't want the foam the foam isn't enticing to me whatsoever yeah well that's very much this restaurant's vibe is like everything is just so uh twelve thousand or twelve thousand twelve hundred dollars worth of you know it's plating it's very pretentious and like and and yeah i'm just like everything is annoying. Everything is annoying. But Tyler is eating it up. He's he's taking his photos on. He's like, he's taking photos of everything. He slaps Margo's hand away as she reaches for her oyster before he takes his photo.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And Margo, we get the sense that she's not really into this. She says, I like regular oysters better. She's kind of an odd one out in this group. Yeah. And we learn as we go. So we're going to Hawthorne is the name of the restaurant. And it's about a 30 minute boat ride. So they're on this little yacht.
Starting point is 00:22:00 They're going to Hawthorne. Then they arrive On this gorgeous Island And they're all being checked in As they get off the boat by the maitre d' Elsa And she knows As soon as each couple comes up she like knows their name She's like welcome and tells them what their names are
Starting point is 00:22:18 This is a white lotus moment This is a Yes Henley's been singing that song it's a banger man oh yeah we can't we can't we'll be here all night we'll be here all night but if you guys aren't watching if you guys aren't watching white, at least watch those title credits because they are fun. They are fun. They're fun. They're fun. So they're all getting checked in.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And we finally get to Tyler and Margo. And Elsa says, oh, and welcome, Miss Westerfeld. And there's a little note of like, nope, it's not Miss Westerfeld. And he's like, oh, sorry, westerfeld like couldn't make it and she's like oh what's your name and she says margo and elsa's clearly like not happy about this and sort of like yeah okay um great margo and as they're walking away margo and tyler tyler's like oh that was awkward she's like it's fine don't worry about it but so everybody's a little bit like that's like not not what we thought was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And then Elsa gives them a tour of the island as they like go to, because the whole, this thing is like, you know, obviously it's very expensive. It's a very big deal. It's like a whole experience to come to this restaurant and to do this dinner. And so you,
Starting point is 00:23:39 the tour is part of it. Yeah. And they're like, these are the waters that your dinner will be uh freshly caught like whatever claims oh and the older couple the older couple goes like can we we're just gonna go straight to the dining room oh they're regular yeah they've been here before they're like we're just gonna go straight to the name but the rest of them get a little tory and they see like they're like their scallops are being fished right now for one of their courses. And then they get taken to the slaughterhouse.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Oh, no, sorry, the smokehouse where all their meat is being smoked. And Elsa tells them that their meat is aged for 152 days. And one of the tech douchebags goes like, oh, what happens if you serve it on the 153rd day? And she says, oh, Oh no Does all hell break loose She says Well at this temperature At the 150th I found this online
Starting point is 00:24:29 I didn't remember this At this temperature On the 153rd day The bacteria Having breached The interior of the flesh Would seep into The customer's bloodstream
Starting point is 00:24:37 And produce a series Of very unpleasant symptoms Pathogens would spread Into the customer's Spinal cord membrane At which point He or she would become Incapacitated
Starting point is 00:24:44 And shortly thereafter expire. So, yes, all hell breaks loose. Whoa, this girl knows what's up. She's intense. And she loves details. She loves details and she's very intense. She's so detail oriented. No smiling, no warmth.
Starting point is 00:24:57 To the point. She's very no nonsense. Yeah, she takes her job very seriously. Takes her job very seriously. And then she shows them their bunkhouse where all the staff Lives they all live on site And it is like one room with a bunch Of little cots next to each other like it like
Starting point is 00:25:12 Look it's so wild And it looks like Like in Downton Abbey Where like the you know the above And below where they like have it just like little Cots all lined up in one room And she tells them That the staff
Starting point is 00:25:27 Is like a family Working on a common mission To run the world's Finest restaurant They work 80 hours a week Starting at 6am For 5 hours of prep work Harvesting
Starting point is 00:25:36 Gathering Fermenting Slaughtering Butchering Chopping Marinating Steeping Smoking
Starting point is 00:25:40 Tempering Liquefying Spherifying They have 4 hours For pre-service prep supper is four and a half hours long then the kitchen has to be scrubbed for two hours okay all of this sounds awful because it's too much it's too much it's absolutely too much but if it was dialed down you know like like 50 i think i would be really on board you know like it sounds kind of fun right i love a
Starting point is 00:26:03 fucking crazy fancy restaurant and no and also just like the idea of that being your life where it's like oh if you really loved it yeah i mean if they had their own rooms yeah i know living all in one room is a little too much and we'll get into it look overall this movie has a lot of fun to it. There were enough There were enough moments for me of like I don't buy it, which like is fine, but I really do feel like
Starting point is 00:26:36 it's like I was talking to Joel about this this morning. Joel! I was talking to Joel about this this morning that I feel about this movie the way That I think like A teacher feels about their star student When they play dries where you just go like
Starting point is 00:26:53 But you're so much smarter than that Why wouldn't you Why did you take the easy way out Where it's like that's maybe unfair I was like this is Like it had a lot of potential I just feel like there are a few things that I'm like oh interesting you have worked a little bit harder to make me buy this like just a little bit but not you don't mean literally like you don't think it's literally
Starting point is 00:27:12 copying from another film you just know i don't mean it's like it took the easy way out feeling of like disappointment of like ah but you you could have done it there was so much more yeah um but i also okay well we'll see what happens we'll see what happens and i shouldn't be negative um because again there is there is a lot of fun to it but i was just sort of like them all staying in one room like that i'm just like i don't know i i don't know yeah there are a lot of weird little details in it i i have i think a lot of questions at the end of this movie i've i've felt yeah we'll get there but they yeah they continue their tour they pass the chef's house he gets his own cabin thing
Starting point is 00:27:52 off limits not even the staff is allowed to go there and so they eventually make their way into the dining uh building like the restaurant and The dining building. The dining building. And they're all ushered in and there's this big heavy door that closes behind them that Margot kind of notices. We as an audience are feeling unsettled by that. Will they be leaving this room? We're not sure.
Starting point is 00:28:19 We know what movie we bought tickets to. We saw the trailer. Well, we didn't hear, but you know, I did personally. Some people have seen it that's right and uh do we get straight into the amuse bouche um yeah so we we clock as we come in we do see an older an old woman oh yes um like in her 80s probably 70s 80s sitting in the corner in sort of like sweats uh looking pretty out of place and is just drinking drinking drinking emptying glasses of wine so that is just sort of like a okay but yeah they come in and um it's like sort of an open kitchen uh concept
Starting point is 00:28:59 so like there's a dining room but you can see into the kitchen you can see all the very like militaristic like they're they're all in sync. They're all lined up. They're like really, really intense, as I'm sure you would have to be at a restaurant of this tier. And Tyler immediately brings Margo over and is like watching. It's like, oh, let's like look that look at them preparing the first course. And he's like asking questions to the chef. And he knows the terminology of like the machines they use.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And oh, look at that. You're using like the machines they use and oh Look at that you're using like the Propaget or whatever And um and He the sous chef answers like And is like oh yeah yes Tyler That is what and he's like oh whoa you know My name and he says oh we make a point of knowing the name Of all of our guests and
Starting point is 00:29:37 Um and then they eventually go and sit back down And Tyler's like wow he's saying to Margo It's so crazy he knew my name and Margo's like yeah I noticed You didn't ask his name and he's like oh That's not the point yeah Margo, that's so crazy he knew my name. And Margo's like, yeah, I noticed you didn't ask his name. And he's like, oh, that's not the point. Yeah, who gives a shit about his name? He's a fucking faceless. Yeah, that's the vibe.
Starting point is 00:29:52 It's like very much like these are rich people and these are the people serving them. And we're getting that dynamic really hammered home. But the tables are about to be turned, right? Am I right? They might be about to be turned. Am I right? In the past few years, I have hit a point where I only want to be wearing clothes that are comfortable.
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Starting point is 00:32:40 So one of the rules here is no photos That's really Tyler breaks that rule pretty much immediately It's very important to him to take photos Which again I've got questions We'll get to it And Margo This whole thing she seems very unimpressed
Starting point is 00:32:59 By it it's all very over the top And she's not In by any means like Wow she's sort of Like this these fucking She's weirded out she's weirded out by it All and I think the chef Comes and introduces himself
Starting point is 00:33:13 Well so chef comes to the kitchen and Tyler's Like there's a chef and the vibe In the whole room is like a celebrity Walked in like because it's Ralph Fiennes Because it's Ralph Fiennes Because it's Voldemort Oh's ray fines because it's voldemort um so he has a real presence and then they serve the amuse bouche which is um like little and it's all they do it very have you ever seen chef's table So it does a very like You know a shot of the food itself
Starting point is 00:33:46 With like a title card of what this is And what you know because we're doing that sort of vibe So we get like the amuse bouche and And then after they eat the amuse bouche Yes chef comes out And he introduces Himself to them and he does it like this So he walks out every time before he like
Starting point is 00:34:02 Talks to the room he like steps Out of the kitchen into the room and he goes like loud they're really loud claps and it i feel like made me jump that just hurt i did that too hard i hurt my hands i'm really sorry that stinks it's the stinks man oh it stinks uh yeah so then chef chef introduces himself and he gives a whole big spiel about uh it's all very like again taking it super super seriously he tells them not to eat i ask you not to eat but to taste and just i i feel like it's a very long It's a long speech This is another huge issue I have with these fancy meals Is that like you always leave hungry Like you just do
Starting point is 00:34:50 Interesting point It doesn't fill you up Because the point is to have this artistic Emotional Existential experience But it's not to actually like Satiate you In any way
Starting point is 00:35:01 And it's so much money For then being so hungry afterwards yeah you just like go home and fucking pound crackers i'm just gonna get papa john's i guess thank you you fucking spent a thousand dollars and you're like and then papa john's we're ordering papa john's right yeah okay um to wash it down to wash that down with some papa john's um and so yes then they serve their first course which is called the island and it is one To wash it down To wash that down with some Papa John's And so yes, then they serve their first course Which is called The Island
Starting point is 00:35:28 And it is one single scallop on like a rock The plating is really It's over the top Dominique, can you help them with the plating? And yeah, so they're eating their first course And Margot is not impressed She's like, that was a whole to-do This is like, this is pretty silly
Starting point is 00:35:44 There was one line i liked lily and the food critic says i've never tasted anything so thalassic what does that mean thalassa is the primeval spirit of the sea in greek mythology it just like it's all very pretentious like all of the dialogue of this food critic thinks she is just the hottest shit. Absolute genius. Yeah. And I've never tasted anything so thalassic in my life. It's just.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I'm stealing that tonight. Tonight I'm going to say it. Take it tonight. Take it tonight. We're going to go get oysters. And it's going to be thalassic. And the tech pros are criticizing the plating. And they're saying, you know, you're paying for the experience Like, it's better at this other restaurant
Starting point is 00:36:29 But, like, now we can say we've been here And Elsa's overhearing this and not liking what she's hearing Not liking what she's hearing And we noticed, Tyler and Margot noticed That Chef from the kitchen is staring at Margot Yes, because Elsa has whispered to him And it's clearly the like mix up that this she's not supposed to be there yep and and so they notice it and tyler's first thought is
Starting point is 00:36:50 like oh chef's staring at you why isn't he staring at me like he's like obsessed with this chef he's so annoying in this movie my god i just yeah it's boiling my blood just remembering from the kitchen staff we're getting a lot of that typical like we all we were all this is the moment of the bear we get the whole and a lot of like yes chef you know like just a lot of that sort of um vibe um and uh and then the then chef comes out to introduce the second course he comes out introduces every course introduces the second course um which is the bread course, typically. And he gives a speech about another big speech about bread has existed for 12,000 years. And, and it's, you know, it's just flour and water and grain represents 65% of all agriculture. And you know, it's the food of the common man. But you, my diners are not the common man And so you get no bread
Starting point is 00:37:45 So the course is just A breadless bread plate It has the little dippings for the bread So it's just a plate with little It looks like a paint palette Of like little tiny sauces But no bread And so all the diners are like
Starting point is 00:38:01 That's fucked up I'd be so I love bread so much I'd be so I love Fred so much. I'd be so mad if I'd been given a single scallop and then some dots of fucking dip. I would be losing my mind. I mean, for $12.50. And also, you know, Papa John's on speed dial. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Papa John's is going to give you bread. If you want bread, Papa's going to give it to you. And so we also get like a lot of them are they're sort of laughing they think it's kind of a joke the tech bros are annoyed they ask for bread yeah so somebody says like oh a restaurant known for its bread is not giving us bread so like this restaurant does bread yeah normally and the tech bros try to like pull a card on them like do you know who we are we work with doug varick and elsa says you work for doug varick and so it's clear like both of them know who this person is big deal in whatever wall
Starting point is 00:38:51 street or tech world their work doesn't matter who cares and they ask please bring us bread she says no like very matter-of-factly like i'm not gonna be bringing you bread so that one of the guys um is like he's like okay just they like can't believe they're being told no. And she leans in to his ear and she goes, you will eat less than you desire and more than you deserve. She's intense. She's really intense. Also, the food critic is like looking at her dips. It's like, oh, it's so clever that he's doing this.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I get what he's doing. And it's like, oh, my emotion is It's like, oh, it's so clever that he's doing this. I get what he's doing. And it's like, oh, my emotion is broken. Like, oh, that's real shame. The emotion is broken. And Elsa immediately brings over a big bowl of emulsion that's broken. And she says, a bowl of a broken emulsion, courtesy of Chef Slowik. And she like looks at him and is like, oh, fuck. Yeah, a real fuck you to Lillian.
Starting point is 00:39:45 like looks at him and is like oh fuck yeah a real fuck you to real fuck you lillian which if anybody doesn't know a broken emulsion means that the oil and the they've separated they've separated which is the only type of emotion i know i feel like i feel like oil and vinegar is like it's always separated it's always separated if i make a dressing you better believe i gotta shake it seconds before i pour it on the salad i think i think a mayonnaise a homemade mayonnaise is an emulsion and so it's like sure you don't want that to be broken humiliating for it to be this looked like oil and vinegar to me it did um but she was not she's not pleased about it somewhere in here i don't i don't remember exactly what course it is but what there's a a person bringing wine to the table for each pairing succession right i don't i'm not sure that guy he looked really familiar to me yeah small yay
Starting point is 00:40:30 and it would make sense because what he does is he brings he introduces one of the wines and says it has been hyper decanted in an immersion blender which is a succession that is absolutely a succession that's a moment, Connor. Connor, hyper-Dekanson. I was really, really tickled by that moment. Connor would go here. Connor would eat here. Oh, Connor would love it. All of them would.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Yeah, all of them would. At one point, I don't exactly remember when, but the couple who's been here before, the older couple, the wife, played by Judith Light, an absolute icon. Completely underutilized. Underutilizedized that was one of my i'm just like what is she doing but it's like it's judith light i know give her something more to do than this give her something more but she remarks she keeps being like that girl keeps staring at us talking about um margo
Starting point is 00:41:20 and being like oh just she looked she says her husband doesn't she look like clara and he's like no she doesn't look like clara at all then um the next course well we get a little speech first which is kind of important we do get margo says to tyler like is it okay that i don't care about all this as much as you do like what i'm sorry i just don't find this all that interesting and he gives a speech about like why he loves food so much and why he thinks this is so amazing and he talks about he's like which i thought was i've seen all of chef's table twice which is like that's not that crazy um but he's like i i you know some kids growing up like idolized movie stars or sports players what is athletes thank you there it is athletes um he was like i i like chefs like i i know this chef everything he's ever done i've like followed his whole career and food is so amazing
Starting point is 00:42:13 because it is like it's at the precipice of life and death like you're like seeing you're like eating things as they like that used to be alive that are now and it's like plants and it's animals and it's a whole like life cycle on your plate and it's just like really really beautiful to me and he starts crying and like it's a cool speech it is sort of like oh yeah i guess that like is what eating is and um margo's like okay yeah i sort of like okay i sort of get what you're talking about um so it's sort of like one little bit of uh you know you're starting to feel a little bit more towards nicholas salts for like a second you sort of understand no not really it's our one little thing of being like what's his deal and it's like well it's this but also maybe margo and him are
Starting point is 00:42:58 not as close as you would think because she's clearly not she doesn't really know yeah exactly that's interesting and then chef Comes over to their table To talk to margo because he's like you're not eating Because she hasn't had any of her Dips did she have her I think she had her scallop but she hasn't Tried the you know dips And he's like you're not eating and she's like well you haven't
Starting point is 00:43:17 Given me any food And he's like no I mean This is like you need to eat I've like planned everything out meticulously. Like the menu only works if you eat the menu. And she says, like, I'll decide when I eat and what I eat. She says, you told us not to eat. And he says, that's not what I meant.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And you know that. Yeah. And she's just she's sassy. She's really sassy. And everyone treats him. She's not as deferential to him As everybody else and He's sort of like he's Thrown by this and when he when chef walks
Starting point is 00:43:49 Away Tyler is like oh my God I can't believe you talked to him he's humiliated Like how could you ever have talked to him like that oh my god Oh my god he's gonna hate us she's like he's A dick like I don't care what this is Ridiculous it also Is I think kind of ridiculous to talk To him that way Like's like okay well you
Starting point is 00:44:07 can be less rude but whatever yeah i feel like being rude to servers and chefs is like one of the main it's a very common thing that it's like a big red flag in any i feel like in dating that's like always what people say it's like if they're rude to a server we also got a moment of like she didn't pay for this he did tyler like paid her way there which is like it comes into play and but like for her to be kind of an asshole she's meant to be like our protagonist and she's being a little too rude i think she's keeping like i don't know it's like reeds is really young to me But is the movie wanting you to think like Ooh she's cool I think so
Starting point is 00:44:47 I think so She's like the voice of the people But it's sort of like I wouldn't be that rude To the chef I'm the voice of the people There it is And then yes then we get the next course And the next course is called Memory
Starting point is 00:45:04 And we get the next course. And the next course is called Memory. And we get introduced now to the woman in sweatpants chugging wine at a table by herself in the corner. And we find out that this is the chef's mother. And this is when things start to take a turn. Okay. I also got to say, things take a turn for me personally in this moment because he starts to give a speech about where he's from oh i forgot and he starts so we said me and sammy and joel we together make us more drinks by the way oh yeah actually joel i'm not joking joel needs to make us more drinks well because he can hear joel's listening in the other joel yeah but he's at he's at a delay.
Starting point is 00:45:45 He's got a delay, but we're about ready for another round. Do you want to come say hi, Joel? He does it. He does it. Well, I have to get on camera because I'll get you blessed. Thank you. Thank you, Joel. Thank you, Joel.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So, okay. So we are watching this movie. And Chef comes out and he goes, this course Thank you, Joel. So, okay. So we are watching this movie and in Jeff comes out and he goes, this, this course is personal to me. It's called memory. And I grew up in, uh, in Waterloo, Iowa. We just heard Joel's from. Perfect timing.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Joel. Joel. Thank you, Joel. These are Joel's hands. And that that's Joel's face. Thank you. Thank you so much. Joel.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Correspondent. Anybody out there from Waterloo. Thank you. Thank you so much, Joel. Correspondent. Anybody out there that's from Waterloo? Waterloo! Holler in the chat. Holler in the chat if you're from Waterloo. So that was just truly like in this movie where it's like, oh, you've been brought here and it's and like this was all a big plot to who knows what. Like this moment happened.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I turned to Joel and I was like, are we in it right now? Like what's happening? Like why? Because I've never once in my life heard someone say they're from waterloo it was very weird but he's that's what he says yeah waterloo iowa are there are there screenwriters related to waterloo i have no idea i think we need to email and find out we're gonna email i think we need to email them we're gonna send an email anyway it freaked me the fuck out when he said this that's freaky that's freaky uh so he tells he introduces his mother and says this is my mother she was really drunk all the time growing up in waterloo iowa and my dad was also very drunk all the time and he would there was a night where he got too drunk and he started strangling her with a telephone cord and i had to break it up by i grabbed some scissors and i stabbed him in the
Starting point is 00:47:32 thigh and then after that was the last time i saw him i never saw him again and so this next course is uh it's chicken thigh and it's served with a small pair of scissors stabbed into it and it's going to be tacos it's like yeah it comes with like homemade tortillas and apparently this you know i don't know that he normally tells the story but this course is something the restaurant is known for when it comes the lean's like oh yes this course the you know taco course is it at this moment or earlier in the film that you start thinking this is humans being served to them um it is not quite yet it happens a little bit later and i start thinking it and then it doesn't happen and i go well oh it doesn't happen i kind of assume that's kind of what the i never thought. I never thought it.
Starting point is 00:48:25 You never thought it? There's one moment, and I'll get to it, where I was like, what a missed opportunity. Anyway. Oh, I thought so. I literally thought if we'd done the thing I always want to do with movies, which we never do, but it's my most fun thing, which is guessing what the movie's about. What do you think the movie's about? Well, I thought the movie was going to be about them slowly killing off people and then
Starting point is 00:48:46 serving them up for everyone else to eat. That would have been fun. That's not what happens in the movie? No. Really? Really. That's really genuinely what I assumed the movie was about. It ain't.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Oh, okay. I can't think of any other idea. That's okay. Does that make you feel more excited for this? Yeah, it does a little. It does a little. Yeah, because it's not what you thought it was. Yeah, no, it does.
Starting point is 00:49:07 So people are a little weirded out by, I think, how much information is shared in this story. A little overly personal. But I think it's kind of a fun, like, perfect midpoint of, like, I guess that's, you know, he's just telling us that. It's like the perfect first unsettling thing lillian has said before i think at one point nicholas holt's character has said like every time you come here it's a new menu it's a it's there's an overarching theme everything you know you never know what it is until the end so they're like prepared for
Starting point is 00:49:39 a theatrical evening this is maybe not quite what they were expecting but they are sort of like this happens here yeah and so on all of the tortillas that are served with this dish are different little little prints like they have laser printed laser printed and images tyler's is printed with photos of him taking photos of the food in the restaurant currently. And he's very embarrassed by this. And he's like, oh, my God, do you think Jeff hates me because he saw me taking pictures? But everybody, everybody's table is personalized. Their tortillas are personalized to them. The food critics is all photos of restaurants that have closed down since she gave them bad reviews. So they're all like supposed to like make them feel bad.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Yeah. The old married couple, it's photos of the guy. What is it? Richard? Richard. Richard with a young escort. And he he's like they're photoshopped that's just it's not real that's not real it's photoshopped out a tortilla it is really funny because it is like yeah it's a it's a tortilla but she's obviously she believes it and um it
Starting point is 00:50:58 is true it is a real photo but anyways so the intention is to Dig deep into everyone's Trauma and unveil Their trauma we're trying to make them Feel bad um the Tech douchebags it's Um it looks like it's like bank accounts And they all look at each other Like fuck fuck fuck it's like
Starting point is 00:51:20 Some sort of fraud happening so yeah They call Elsa over there like what What the fuck is this like what are these and she goes i'm she's so good in this role she goes hong chao yeah she's incredible tortillas and he's like tortillas you guys tortillas deliciosas so funny and um they're they're like huddling like okay what the fuck do we do Will this hold up in court Will these tortillas hold up in court And oh they ask her like
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah and she's like a chef Chef never reveals his recipes And like they say we're going to have this place shut down by morning She's like that won't be necessary And they just kind of move past it I also want to point out John Leguizamo's Tortilla is a The like cover of a
Starting point is 00:52:05 bad movie that he did i can't remember like a movie he's embarrassed by that he's like oh that was when i was really like uh fucking just taking anything for the money and margo is very annoyed by this little stunt and like tells tyler to send it send it back like this is they're trying to humiliate you she's like you're you're worried if he likes you? Like, I don't like him. This is so shitty. And he's like, you don't send food back. He gets really, he's like, you're being a child.
Starting point is 00:52:33 You don't send food back here. You're lucky to even be seated here. And she goes to motion to get their attention. And he snaps at her. And is like, don't fuck. And in doing that, he knocks over a wine glass. And it breaks and like causes a commotion and she gets really fucking pissed and she's like you can't talk to me like that and she gets up and goes to the bathroom and she's like smoking out of the window
Starting point is 00:52:55 in the bathroom and chef comes in oh there's like a line earlier where tyler had said to her because she was smoking on the dock when they first were leaving and he says like you shouldn't smoke it's gonna like ruin your palate palette um so she's like sneaking her cigarette and chef comes in and he says like you're not supposed to be here and they have this confusing conversation she obviously doesn't know what's happening he seems very overly concerned about her being there and she doesn't know why and he asks her he says i need to know if you're one of them or one of us which is a crazy thing to be asked at a restaurant yeah i wouldn't know what to do with that and she does she also doesn't uh and he leaves basically like she doesn't answer and he leaves her he also asked her her name and
Starting point is 00:53:45 she's like i'm margaret he's like no you're not i've known margaret's where you're not margo and she's like i don't know what to fucking tell you guy um but then they go back out she goes back into the dining room and oh my god we've got some drinks flying in hello hello thank you thank you joel i feel like my instinct would be like i'm one of you like i would have just said yeah i mean i'm one of you yeah i'm one of you um the fact that the question is being asked is not a good question alarm bells certainly a good question um but so they come back out and so they're now it's time for the fourth course which is called he says the fourth course called the mess they're rolling out a tarp they're rolling out a tarp we're getting nervous it's
Starting point is 00:54:30 dexter it's dexter season one we're yeah we're getting there and he says to come out for this course i'm gonna need um sous chef jeremy sous chef jeremy come on out and he comes out and he stands next to chef and chef says you know this is Jeremy Jeremy is good Jeremy is a very Good chef but he's not great And he's never gonna be Great he's never gonna be great And he you know Oh my god are they about to kill Jeremy
Starting point is 00:54:56 Well he says Jeremy he desperately wants my job My position my prestige My status my talent Jeremy has forsaken everything to try to achieve that. He works 20 hours a day. He has no time for friends and family. His entire life is service and pressure to put out the best food in the world. Pressure to please his chef, pressure to please his customers, pressure to please the critics. And even when all goes right
Starting point is 00:55:20 and the food is perfect and the customers are happy and the critics are too, there's no way to avoid the mess. The mess you make of your life, of your body, of your health, of your sanity, by giving everything you have to pleasing people who will never know. People who you increasingly care nothing about. Jeremy, do you like this life you dreamed about? And he says, no chef. No chef. Yeah, really? No chef No chef like very very intense Do you like my life the life you envy No chef Ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 00:55:52 Your fourth course Sous chef Jeremy's mess And then Jeremy Takes out a gun and shoots himself in the head What Wait wait wait wait What Okay so this was something that was discussed pre-meal oh absolutely planned he was like listen jare tonight's your night it's all part of the
Starting point is 00:56:12 menu it's all part of the menu the fourth course it's gonna be called the mess and jeremy's like genius chef i love it how's it gonna happen tell me he's. He's like, you're going to take a gun. You're going to shoot yourself in the face. And he's like, all in a day's work. Yes, chef. That's fucking crazy. I like, don't know what to think about that. Well, at this point, the diners are, they're freaking out. Well, it's just so it starts to enter. It was already, everything about this was already unbelievable. But now that dynamic starts to walk into a realm of like that's just completely unbelievable like is this a cult good question you know like the fact that he would have them under this level of you know hypnosis is truly unbelievable and mabel mabel she's cute she like does like to sit there. Mabel has thoughts too.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Mabel, what do you think? Pretty cute. She gave a little love nudge. But yeah, everybody is screaming, freaking out, like asking to leave. Elsa. Lillian is like, it's theater. It's theater. It's theater.
Starting point is 00:57:21 It's performance. Some of them are convincing themselves That this isn't really You know this is all manufactured No way did he actually kill himself But some people are really really freaking out Elsa's like gonna be tough to leave Without the boat is gone There's no reception here
Starting point is 00:57:37 And Richard like jumps up And is like I'll take care of this Like I'm gonna get us out of here And they stop him and they say How, I'll take care of this. Like, I'm going to get us out of here. And they stop him and they say, how are you going to take care of it? And they say, what hand are you going to take care of it with? He says, I'll handle it. And so Elsa goes, oh, how will you handle it?
Starting point is 00:57:55 With which hand? And he won't answer. And she's like, I'll choose a hand. And they hold his hand down on the table and cut off his ring finger and at this point all right is everyone now kind of convinced like this everyone is very upset at this point i'm very upset at this point yeah emily hates it i hate it i also like they really do they they stay for a while on him just like sobbing which i was thinking about how much you hate watching somebody suffer like even though i
Starting point is 00:58:30 don't really give a fuck about this guy they've given me no reason to watching somebody just like really suffer is hard honestly i forget who richard is the older guy the one who recognizes anya anya god damn it um we don't like him he's clearly hiring escorts or whatever like he had like that picture with you know but but you don't want to see him get his ring finger cut off i don't want to watch that and then again he just like sits and sobs for a really long time which i wish i really don't like and i think they actually like at this point like to let everybody know she says anybody else tries to leave and you're gonna lose an appendage yeah it's like we're not
Starting point is 00:59:10 hiding it anymore it's like and you guys can't leave but like what is their aim ultimately what's the motivation i wish we knew i wish we could tell you I wish we knew. And Elsa asks Margo at this point to go join Chef in the kitchen. Chef wants to talk to you. And so she goes in there. But Tyler is probably very jealous again. Why does he want to talk to you? Why does he want to talk to me? He's so annoying.
Starting point is 00:59:40 And again, Chef asks her, are you with them or are you with us, and she asks, if I'm with you, do I get to live, like, clearly something bad is going to happen tonight, and she's obviously aware of that, and he says, no, we're all going to die tonight, it just depends on if you want to die with the people who take, or the people who give, and her wheels wheels are turning she doesn't know how to answer it's like what is the best game plan here this is very weird not good it's not good no matter what good and he gives her a kitchen timer sets it to 15 minutes and says you have 15 minutes to decide um if you're with us or with them and um and and i mean we're getting like moments i think at this point uh he said you know she leaves the kitchen and chef and in the mean we're getting like moments i think at this point uh
Starting point is 01:00:25 he said you know she leaves the kitchen and chef says to the the sous chefs like plating in 15 minutes they go yes chef he says i love you all and they say we love you too chef so you know they love him and at some point in here he kind of gives a another speech if you can believe it but also i i want to um just emphasize how ray fines is so good in it so good in it at this point i'm feeling compelling i'm feeling a little annoyed by the movie at this point but every time we're annoyed by him every time he's on screen giving a speech i am absolutely engaged i'm i'm i'm loving. I just could watch him give speeches all day long.
Starting point is 01:01:08 He just commands the room so well. Does he have a kid who's an actor? Or am I thinking Rafe Spall who's Timothy Spall's kid who has the same first name? Oh, right. Same first name. It's different. His is spelled Rafe. It's spelled Rafe. So that's different.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I don't know if he has a kid He has a brother That's right Who's his brother? Joseph Fiennes Fiennes? You said Fiennes Fine, sorry
Starting point is 01:01:31 Well, I don't know What's one of them is true But they probably Don't have different last names Fiennes and Fiennes And he What is he from? Handmaid's Tale
Starting point is 01:01:40 Right You guys can't see the look I really gave me, but it was pretty good. Thank you. I don't even know. I don't even know what to say, except for the fact that Rafe Fiennes just gave away that everyone's going to die tonight. Everyone? He's giving it away. Everyone?
Starting point is 01:02:01 Well, he's about to really give it away. Here, you take this. Everyone? Well, he's about to really give it away Here, you take this So he gives a speech about kind of why he's doing this And how he's so fed up with the world The culinary world And how it's all
Starting point is 01:02:15 He says, all my food turns to shit inside a rich man's stomach Which really struck me It's literally true It's a really interesting thing that I've never thought about, about being a chef or working in the food industry of like how interesting that everything you make does actually literally turn into shit. No, that is, that is huge. I was, I really had never thought of that before. I was like, that is life changing information. It does actually quite literally turn to shit.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Yes, it does. But like, that's a good thing too, right? I mean, it's, you know, it's how we live. It's how it goes. Yeah. It's a circle of life. But he's going around the room saying kind of why each person is there a bit. And he goes to the old rich couple and says,
Starting point is 01:03:07 you guys are regulars. Name one thing you've had here in the last 11 times you've been here. How many times have you been here? Oh yeah. And he goes like six. He goes 11. Yeah. So they're clearly like not appreciating his food in the way that he wants to
Starting point is 01:03:22 be appreciated. They can't, Richard can't name it they don't let the wife answer i can't remember her name but they he's like underutilized and he's like uh cod and he's like it's not cod it was halibut he says fucking filthy no she says cod she goes like name one dish you've had and he can't answer and she goes like cod and he goes it wasn't cod you fucking donkey it was halibut you fucking donkey where spotted fucking halibut caught four hours
Starting point is 01:03:50 before you got here so i don't appreciate so he's kind of going one by one telling each of them why they're about to die tonight and he gets to chanel guis. And he says, he brings up the movie that was printed on his tortilla and says, I saw I had one day off. A chef's work week is so exhausting and busy. And I had one chance to watch a movie and I watched your movie and it was so bad. Which is just, it's so dumb. It's so stupid. It's simply too dumb. I'm laughing at is just it's so dumb it's so stupid it's simply too i'm laughing at it because it's dumb it's not because it's it's not it's like i guess a little bit funny in the movie but it's also just like oh what like if the whole movie was dumb then it would make sense but the fact that the movie is trying to be serious and trying to be i mean it's trying to be a comedy
Starting point is 01:04:44 but it's trying to be like kind it's trying to be. I mean, it's trying to be a comedy, but not that kind. It's trying to be like a satire. It's trying to be a smart, intellectual, highbrow comedy. I need to buy into the through line here for these people. I need to at least believe that they believe why they're doing this. And that is my problem with this movie is that again i think all the ingredients are there i think of good enough actors i think it's a good enough premise it's all you got it all you got the brains you got the stuff and then you just you took the easy
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Starting point is 01:07:24 I'm very disappointed. So John was almost there with his assistant and she's kind of like, why am I here? Like, why do I have to die? And he looks at her and says, what college did you go to? And she says,
Starting point is 01:07:38 Brown. He says, do you have student loans? And she says, no. And he's like, there you go. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Which again, like it's, it's very heavy handed. It's just like, you go that's fine which again like it's not it's very heavy-handed it's just like no yeah it's dumb and um the tech bros at this point are yelling and being like doug varick he owns this island he owns this restaurant he owns you and they're like oh like yeah that's interesting you bring him up and they turn on some spotlights outside and hanging from i don't know what hanging in the sky above the ocean is doug varick in angel wings and again another speech from chef about how doug varick used to own him or something and he's like i
Starting point is 01:08:27 decided i like i i'm not gonna be i don't know whatever he just is basically like he chef lost his way he allowed himself to be bought he allowed himself to become a chef only for these people this isn't like what he loves or cares about or why he got into this and so he's like freeing himself of this and they drop by killing everyone around him and they drop doug varick into the ocean and drown him oh so he was alive before this he was alive when he was hanging up in the wings okay so this is where to understand it's just weird you know all the things that all the things that are happening in this movie are just weird and i'm not necessarily feeling like any real emotion about anything i'm just like huh this is happening now yeah okay
Starting point is 01:09:22 i'm not scared no no you're not scared i'm not scared really um they didn't do a good job of building real relationships yeah whatsoever that's my okay we said we were gonna do this but we're gonna do it i don't care about anyone yeah i care about ray fines because he's such a good actor like i can't like he's such he's giving such a good performance but i don't care about anya's character i don't care about nick just casually saying i i'm really impressed i was like just go just go past it just keep talking um i do and there's and again we'll get there but there are i'm like oh i i wish i could and i don't actually wonder because i don't want to write but i wish i could take a pass on this movie and be
Starting point is 01:10:11 like here are the thing here are the dials you need to turn everything is dealt with the like same amount of stakes every person is dealt with the same amount of empathy and it's just sort of like what what i talked about is like has anybody watched a great british baking show you guys don't yes yes okay i've seen a bit yes i have okay so a big critique they give people sometimes is style over substance where they're like you paid attention to the like making this bake look really cool but doesn't taste that good and this movie to me is very style over substance where it's like again you have the ingredients you i get i'm like i'm i'm all in i wanted to love this movie and it's just like you just focused on the style a little too much and here's mabel oh she's going oh she's gone um we needed ray fines to have some kind
Starting point is 01:10:59 of backstory that was immediately emotionally compelling that we were attracted to and then halfway through the movie we needed attracted to and then halfway through the movie we needed there to be a big reveal that margo was somehow attached to that story and this is great see we should have done a collective pass because i wasn't even thinking about that but we should have done a collective pass they just needed to build up some you know you're building up cash in your bank well we're gonna get to a big thing a big thing that i have so many oh my god how much wait where are we in the movie? More than halfway. So much more. No, we're more than halfway.
Starting point is 01:11:27 We're we're we're very we're like I would say this is we're two thirds of the way through. For anyone who doesn't know, Mabel used to sit in my lap every single time. Every single recording. I feel like there's a moment. It's in the hereditary episode, right? Where George says something to Mabel and there's like no context for it. Anyway, he's talking to her. If people ever didn't know, it's we used to record at my old place where Mabel And there's like no context for it anyway he's talking To her if people ever didn't know
Starting point is 01:11:45 It's we used to record at my old place where Mabel Was the fucking star of the show and she loves to Be on laps she loves the Lap she's a good girl She's a really good girl Um okay Okay at this point Margo's Timer goes off it's been 15 minutes and so
Starting point is 01:12:02 Now Elsa comes up and is like okay Chef wants to talk to you in his office so Margo goes to chef's office and basically reveals okay yes I'm an escort Tyler hired me for the evening um name is not Margo her name is Aaron um and he says too he's like you know Richard Margo you know I've a Margo. You're not. I've seen Margos. It's just also a crazy thing to say. This is crazy. But he also asks, he's like, you know, Mr. Lee Brandt as well. And she's like, yeah, he hired me once.
Starting point is 01:12:34 And we get this reveal of just like, ooh, he hired her and asked her to dress like his daughter and like and like talk about how she loved him. I love you, daddy. And stuff like that while he jerked off in front of her which is like that's probably the scariest part of the movie yeah which one's mr lebron the older man who got his finger cut off yeah oh gross which is just like okay um and so chef basically decides he's like you're with us like i know you you're you're just like us you're not with them you'll die. Um, and then it is time for the next course for which they were like, okay, time to go outside. We're going outside for the next course.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Let's take some fresh air. So they all go outside. And, uh, another sous chef is given the mic basically for this course. Uh, what is her name? Catherine or something like that. Catherine sounds right. Um, and she says, uh, chef, chef Slowick, um,
Starting point is 01:13:29 like made a pass at me once and I rejected a couple years ago. I rejected him. He tried again. I rejected him again. And he didn't fire me, but he didn't fire me. He just like, wouldn't make eye contact with me.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Wouldn't talk to me. I saw all the men around me getting promoted around me and there's like some commentary here on being a woman in the in the culinary world wouldn't promote me even though i'm better than everybody so the next course is called humiliation and she takes i don't know some scissors or a knife and she stabs chef in the thigh and he he just he it's obvious it's clear that this is like a plan this is everyone knows what's about to happen chef does not react he like takes getting stabbed like he it looks like it hurts but he's like yes thank, you did what we planned. And he apologizes to her. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:14:28 And then they say, for this course, all the men, you're going to get a 45 second head start, and you can run and try to hide, and then the rest of our staff are going to try to find you. And they go, okay, go. And they all start to run, except for fucking Tyler, who
Starting point is 01:14:43 just stays there, and he's like, no, you two,ler who just stays there and he's like no you too you have to run and he's like okay and then they get a 45 second head start and then the staff run after them and then the all the women and katherine go back inside and sit and have like a regular course around one table while the men are running and hiding and trying to get away we see cuts of or like clips of them getting found out and but again like nothing really happens it's it's just yeah it's very hard to latch on to anything that's happening this way because everything is so nobody is acting i feel like how anyone in this situation would act and so it just is it's just
Starting point is 01:15:21 really weird again i'm just like huh okay this Is happening now I guess I'm just gonna watch This happen yeah I mean we like they all Try to run away they all get brought back All the men come back into the room and they're all like a bit Beaten up you know they're bruised and bloodied but Like we don't see it happen we don't really Get they're sort of like okay they got found And brought back in okay
Starting point is 01:15:40 Yeah it's like All right I guess they needed to Fill time and then we get Chef comes out and he goes okay it's like alright I guess they needed to fill time And then we get Jeff comes out and he goes okay it's time for the next course But before we can do The next course I need to sort of There's an elephant in the room I need to address And that is
Starting point is 01:15:56 That Tyler Has known The whole time What this was I have been communicating with tyler for months about him coming tonight what he's helped me organize it i guess i don't fucking know um and and i told him that everybody was gonna die tonight what and so he hired he says to margaret he hired you to join him tonight knowing that you were gonna die and
Starting point is 01:16:26 he did that because we don't serve single diners here and so he just hired someone knowing that he was bringing them to their death well why did they make such a big deal out of the fact that he wasn't with his like wife or whatever then if they knew that he was gonna bring they didn't know that he was gonna bring he changed that up on them in the last minute yeah that was a change up they were planning on him being him and being there with his girlfriend but they broke up and so because he knew they didn't serve single diners he hired margot to come with him and so so chef was like i see i see he knew that he was sentencing you to death and then he's like tyler you love food so much why don't you cook our next course margo's also like absolutely furious but like she's in rage she tries to like
Starting point is 01:17:05 lunge at the table and like as you would be yeah it's like yes you hired me to come die but they they pull her off and then they bring tyler back into the kitchen separate them and so they're like okay tyler you like love food you've watched chef's table twice Why don't you Cook us dinner And so he like Is really flustered And he's like Chef's like
Starting point is 01:17:29 What are you gonna cook And he's like Lamb Great Here's a lamb What do you wanna cook with it Shallots And leeks
Starting point is 01:17:36 And starts like Chopping it And is really terrible at it And is a really terrible chef He's like Leeks with butter Like oh my god A culinary invention
Starting point is 01:17:44 That we did not Ever think about Yeah Chef is just like Fucking He's really, leaks with butter. Like, oh my God. Oh my God, the genius. A culinary invention that we did not ever think about. Yeah, Chef is just like fucking. He's really making fun of him. Roasting him as he does this. He tries to cook it. Plates it for Chef. Chef takes a bite and is like, mmm, it's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:18:00 And humiliates him and then whispers something in his ear. And Tyler goes like like nods and is like okay and like and then Tyler alone walks to the back of the restaurant we don't see where he goes and then chef says to Margo
Starting point is 01:18:16 he's like okay you're one of us so you're gonna help us prepare dessert go to the smokehouse and get this barrel. We need the barrel for dessert. Elsa, who is there with them. He's like, Elsa forgot to get the barrel. So you're going to go get the barrel.
Starting point is 01:18:31 And he makes Elsa give her the key to the smokehouse. And he sends Marco out to go get this barrel. She goes out and gets it and like immediately finds a knife. Well, she instead instead of going to the smokehouse, she goes to chef's house. She's like on her way there is like, oh, I'm going to go to chef's house instead. Gets a knife. Well, she instead, instead of going to the smokehouse, she goes to Chef's house. She like on her way there is like, oh, I'm going to go to Chef's house instead. Gets a knife. Gets in, finds a knife. We see a little shot of Elsa lurking in the shadows, which actually I think that did kind of.
Starting point is 01:18:55 That scared me. That scared me because you can't quite make out who it is. And I was like, what's this now? Is it like an interesting new development? No, it's just Elsa. But we know some sort of Confrontation is about to happen She's Oh I think it happens
Starting point is 01:19:08 Like immediately And they get Into Elsa basically comes up And is like You've been ruining this night Since you got here You've like made
Starting point is 01:19:15 Everything complicated Clearly they have like They had a very specific plan So they start fighting Like literally Fucking fist fighting Knives Knives and
Starting point is 01:19:24 Flying Kitchen equipment Oh sorry we forgot to mention She walks into Chef's house And she sees They start fighting like literally fucking fist fighting knives and flying kitchen equipment. Oh, sorry. We forgot to mention she walks into chef's house and she sees chef's bedroom is an exact replica of the restaurant, but with a bed in it. And again, we don't really deal with that. We just go like, well, that's weird. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:38 There's so many things that are just like, feel like they should be explained as part of the plot. And it's just like, I'm not mad I'm just disappointed you know it's just a bummer but yeah they get in a big brawl um and on Anya fuck I thought
Starting point is 01:19:56 I just said it right that time Margo finally is able to get the upper hand and kills Elsa stabs her stabs her in the throat stabs her in the throat so Elsa's dead and she takes Elsa's keys off of her and uses them to unlock a like mystery door in chef's house and she walks in and it's just like a weird little bunker with old pictures of him where when he was like a young chef making cheeseburgers and looking really happy um and when she's in there she also sees a radio and she picks it up like with a walkie and it seems like she's going to use it to like call
Starting point is 01:20:34 for help um but cut cut to her re-entering hawthorne the restaurant with the barrel giving it to chef and it lies like sits back down she's all disheveled she's gotten into fucking knife fight um but she like comes back she brings in the barrel great time for the next course the chef chef gets up to like introduce the next course he quotes martin luther king to which i forgot that was funny and the tech pros one of whom is black they turn to him and they're like Did he just call Martin Luther King Yeah he did We don't know whose
Starting point is 01:21:13 Fucking side we're supposed to be on in this Shit And then in the distance because the wall of Hawthorne Is all windows basically Like any rich place would be And we see out into the water a coast guard boat approaching and i think jute or lillian or somebody says to um marco like did you call for help and she's like yeah i did so they're like oh my god we're saved we're saved they're not saved well
Starting point is 01:21:39 maybe and as so that all the staff obviously sees the Coast Guard boat approaching and they immediately go into like cleanup mode and they start like tending to people's wounds and like making it look normal. And they say, like, if any of you say anybody, you'll be responsible for the death of a perfectly innocent person. Think about that. So think about that. Act fucking normal or this guy's going to die. We're obviously all willing to murder so like if you do talk to him he will just be another victim here so just everybody just know that yeah and so he walks in to a very weird setting of people like like really wanting to
Starting point is 01:22:22 ask for help but unsure about it and the coast guard is asking is everybody okay i got a distress call and like did anyone place that call and they're all like no no we we didn't and he's looking really suspicious and doesn't know what to make of this situation and then he's scanning the room everyone's looking very weird and he spots john leguizamo and is like oh my god like i'm such a huge fan i loved your movie and names whatever movie that exact movie hated and chef i think says do you want an autograph offers Offers it up for him. And he's like, oh, I don't want to.
Starting point is 01:23:07 I don't. That's, you know, I don't want to. That's not my place. And he's like, it's fine. It's fine. Just go ahead. And so he goes to get an autograph. And we're seeing John Lucas.
Starting point is 01:23:18 I'm like, yeah, yeah, I give you an autograph. Like, no problem. And we know that he's obviously gonna write a little message and he's has a big smile to chef like just i need an autograph no big deal and hands him the paper and as the coast guard like folds it and walks away he's like thank you so much wow that's so cool this is so exciting and as he's walking away he's like all right if everything's good here like i guess i'll leave and they're like yeah everything's good and then he looks at the autograph and it says help us and he draws his gun he has a gun and he's like what's going what's going on something's
Starting point is 01:23:58 going on here like hands in your head but points it at chef doesn't know what's happening and it's this tense moment of everyone's like oh my god yes and i think at that point everyone starts screaming like yes we're captive and he he's he doesn't know where to point the gun he's shifting it around like who to shoot he doesn't know and we're all very stressed and then he points it at margo and then at the unlit candle on Margo's table and he pulls the trigger and it's a lighter and he lights the candle and he then
Starting point is 01:24:32 pulls the gun back like he's just completed his performance. What? Evidently takes his close guard uniform off to reveal a chef's coat underneath and he's a sous chef. Why? Why? I have notes about this as well. Mabel it and she's right and you're right mabel and good job we should want more we should expect more we should and we should be disappointed in the way that this transpired i just my thought
Starting point is 01:24:59 for this which i guess we'll say now is that like They should have killed him Because every Because Right Kill him and then be like Oh and just by the way He was never here to save you He was one of us Everyone's there to die Make them feel like shit
Starting point is 01:25:14 Because they took somebody's life For a second Yeah Anyway I've got thoughts A note We have a note I have more notes than this
Starting point is 01:25:21 Anyway Hey Um After this happens Chef is fucking Pissedgo when he goes, you called for help. You're one of them. You're not one of us. You're dying with them. You're going to die with them.
Starting point is 01:25:36 You're a taker like everybody else. And so now it's time to prepare the dessert course. And Chef turns around to go back to the kitchen to prepare the dessert course. And Margo, we see her get this idea. We see a little light in her eyes like she's got an idea. And chef is turned away and Margo stands out from her chair and she goes. goes and he turns around and she says i would like to send my food back i haven't liked my food i'm sending it back and he goes truly with that exact vibe i don't like it i'm sending it back and she says your food the way the speech is delivered it's as if it is as if it is earth shattering and it's like your food isn't made with love there's no love in your food
Starting point is 01:26:37 there's no love in it at all and i'm sending it back. She goes, I'm still hungry. He goes, you're still hungry? What do you want? She goes, Papa John's. Papa John's. And she goes, give me a phone. Does Papa John's deliver to this island? Where's the Papa?
Starting point is 01:27:00 She goes, Papa. Papa. She says I Want a cheeseburger Because she's seen the photo Of him In his happier days Flippin' burgers
Starting point is 01:27:15 And she's bringing it back This is a Pixar movie Essentially She goes Honest I doubt you can even make one And he goes Oh I can make one
Starting point is 01:27:21 I'll make you the most perfect I'll make you the most perfect Cheeseburger you've ever had And she goes If oh, I can make one. I'll make you the most perfect, I'll make you the most perfect cheeseburger you've ever had. And she goes, if you can, I don't think you can. And then we see him go to the kitchen and she goes, I want the American cheese. And he goes, American cheese is the best possible cheese for a cheeseburger.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Because it melts without splitting. And she goes, okay, make me a cheeseburger. And we watch him make a cheeseburger. It watch him Make a cheeseburger It looks really fucking good He's so excited about it He's so happy
Starting point is 01:27:50 He goes with fries Yes he goes crinkle cut Or regular So he makes her a cheeseburger and fries I'm thinking why on earth does this kitchen have American cheese there's no way in hell This kitchen has American cheese on hand. But he makes her a cheeseburger and serves it to her.
Starting point is 01:28:10 And the whole room is silent. We're watching the cheeseburgers placed in front of her. It's a double. She takes a bite. He has buns with fucking sesame seeds on them. No way in hell does this kitchen have buns with sesame seeds on them. And she takes a bite. And she goes, it's really good it was a really good cheeseburger but i think
Starting point is 01:28:32 my eyes were a little bit too big for my stomach and i'd like to take the rest to go and he goes can we get a can we get a dog bag for this cheeseburger he tells the, can we get a doggy bag for this cheeseburger? And he tells his staff, can we get a doggy bag for this cheeseburger? And they wrap it up. Stop it. And they put it in a doggy bag. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:28:56 And he says, thank you so much for dining at Hawthorne. No. And she gets up. And she starts walking out. And she turns and looks back at the room. And Judith Light, in her one fucking shining moment goes like, go, go. And she walks out of the restaurant. They open the door for her.
Starting point is 01:29:15 She walks out of the restaurant with her cheeseburger. Uh-huh. And she leaves. And she leaves. Wait, and then what? And then, it's time for dessert, baby. And he gives a speech. No, another speech!
Starting point is 01:29:32 Another speech! This whole time I feel like people have been pouring a little bit of chocolate on the floor. Yeah, we're setting up for dessert. Setting up for dessert. Anya Taylor, she's gone. Any the floor. Yeah, we're like setting up for dessert. Anya Taylor, she's gone. Anya Taylor. Incredible, incredible pronunciation. Incredible pronunciation. She's gone. She's gone. She walked
Starting point is 01:29:55 out. And we see her mean what we're cutting back before. She's like trying to. She tricked him. She tricked him. She tricked him. She got him. She got him. She asked for her food to go. She got him. Wow. I mean, 10 out of 10. And so, meanwhile, it's time for dessert. And so he's giving a speech about, I don't know, s'mores and how s'mores are stupid.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I don't know. But he. So meanwhile, all the staff are putting onto everybody a marshmallow sort of like cape. Very Midsommar. Cool. Marshmallow cape and a little chocolate hat. It's getting placed onto every diner and they're spreading cracker crumbs
Starting point is 01:30:49 on the floor and chocolate and they're making it look beautiful and then also lighter fluid and I can't lift my arms in this shirt so I'm like lighter fluid and talking about dessert and s'mores and whatever. I don't know. Fucking speech. And then chef stands in the center
Starting point is 01:31:06 of the room and his staff light a match and they light him on fire and he goes up in flames and the room goes up in flames and we're watching everybody. Nobody screams. Nobody screams. Nobody's in pain. Also, all of
Starting point is 01:31:22 the customers at this, nobody seems to be Fighting it Like okay another note that Joel and I had Okay I just watched Midsommar I did finally watch it and The people who get burned alive at the end of that Movie are there willingly
Starting point is 01:31:38 They're there they believe in it And they scream Because being burned alive Would be the worst thing ever you would be in so much you wouldn't be it wouldn't it's not even a choice to scream you would scream your life force would require it involuntarily yes you would react because oh my god you're being burned alive can you imagine being burned alive and just not screaming just sitting there none of them are resisting nobody even even the staff nobody reacts nobody screams it just is
Starting point is 01:32:12 really discounting human survival instinct is pretty strong at and this is a group of what like 40 people at least some of them are gonna be like oh my god i changed my mind holy shit we also completely yeah nicholas past sorry when anya and yeah when anya goes to get the barrel she walks past nicholas holt has hanged himself oh which is like yeah we blip past it because our fucking one of our lead characters hangs himself off screen off lead characters hangs himself off screen off screen he hangs himself we don't deal with it and like what is his motivation in anything why did he do any of this he just wanted that food and it's like what it's one of the food
Starting point is 01:32:55 anyway so the whole fucking restaurant goes up in flames everybody dies everybody burns and we see anya watching from the coast guard boat eating her fucking cheeseburger As the whole place fucking explodes And that's the end of the movie she's wiping her Mouth I hated this I wasn't fond of it I wasn't fond of it I wasn't fond of it I'm disappointed Because okay we're just
Starting point is 01:33:17 Disappointed so I love like there's so much Possibility here so much possibility It's like a fun okay there's a lot of Horror movies where at the end we're like there's so much possibility here so much possibility here it's like a fun okay wait there's a lot of horror movies where at the end we're like it's about it's all about the capital capitalism was the yeah and this had that and I'm just like I don't know it like kind of it felt short in so many ways it felt like it was like it it believed it was doing that therefore they didn't actually try like i was like i do it though like do it making her an escort was such a cop-out because immediately she had no connection to literally
Starting point is 01:33:55 anyone and i guess the old guy recognized her because like she had been an escort he'd used or something he hired her to be his daughter that's the like one fucking connection but like that in and of itself our main character immediately immediately is placed far away from everyone else we didn't empathize with her to begin with because she's being a fucking dick and and nicholas whole the like oh my god the twist of like he's known the whole time if we had cared about him even this much we didn't he was a dick the whole time and like he wasn't acting again this is really nitpicky and i i love nicholas well i think he's such a good actor i'm not joking though it like made me like him less well because like can't we talk about what else he's been in because i'm having a mind
Starting point is 01:34:43 blank i can't even think mad max he's in a movie called warm bodies mad max what else he's been in Because I'm having a mind blank Mad Max he's in a movie called Warm Bodies Mad Max Warm Bodies he's great in Warm Bodies He's so good in Warm Bodies The Great which I haven't seen but people love it Oh he was in X-Men Yes X-Men He's a gorilla foot guy Wasn't he in The Favorite
Starting point is 01:34:58 Yeah I'm pretty sure he is I think he's in the favorite He's a very good actor I really like him So I was like if this is this man's The word meant to believe That he knows Going into this he's gonna die
Starting point is 01:35:16 He is not acting like a man who knows He's about to die in any way shape or form Why why why would you be Taking photos of everything Why would that be your thing You're about to die Your phone is going to burn in the flames What are you doing
Starting point is 01:35:30 Who gives a shit about the photos Even if they give us a little moment of him being like I have to post these so people know I was here I would get that Yeah that would make more sense And if he were trying to Trying to give Anya the best night of her life because he knows
Starting point is 01:35:49 she's going to die, right? Like he doesn't care about her having a, it just, it was like, make that a twist that lands. It didn't land. His wife or girlfriend, we know nothing about that relationship either. Like, it's not like he's been affected by that whatsoever. He's not like recovering from a breakup. Again, I hate when we, so we watch this movie and i hate to feel like we're going into a recap being like i hate i never want to be the kind of person who watches so many movies thinks
Starting point is 01:36:16 about so many shows that i can't find joy cynical i don't want to get cynical i don't want to like not be like well there's a there's a flaw And so I don't like because I'm so smart. I wanted to love it. I wanted to love it. I'm like down to be taken for a ride. And I just feel like it thought it was being so smart that it didn't bother to do it well. And that bothers me. It's not about it having a flaw because that's not really it's more that it just didn't care to build any kind of emotional connection whatsoever with anyone.
Starting point is 01:36:45 And you have, it's such a good team too. Like all the actors are so good. Like the direction, it's that you had every element. Like Nicholas Holt could have done that. He is such a good actor. And it was just like not, we weren't doing it. And that bothers me. Maybe it was the editors at the end of the game.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Maybe it was the editors. Okay. Okay, rude. Okay, rude. Okay, rude. I think it's the script. I love, lately, I'm always shitting on the script. Listen, don't worry, darling. But I just, I wanted to love it.
Starting point is 01:37:15 I wanted to love it. And I didn't. It's one of the weirdest movies I think I've ever seen. It's pretty weird. I just, it's one of those movies that you're like huh like so many people have to be involved in the making of a movie it takes so much work there's so many people that read the script there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen and it's just it just is interesting to me you have to really like you spend like dedicate so much like time and energy
Starting point is 01:37:45 to making a movie and it's like how did anyone get like fucking pumped to make this movie it felt to me like people being thinking okay wow succession huge right now people love the demise of rich people okay the bear huge right now we love chef shit and being like this is like that without like do like none of the why in succession again it's a hard bar to compare things to because this is the best show of all time but it's like you even if you hate everybody you care about them i didn't care about anyone which is hard to do i suppose in a you only have two hours in a movie i wonder if it's like a problem of like tv people making a movie where you don't have like yeah 10 hours to flesh out like they stuffed this ensemble cast and then just weren't able to make any of it uh yeah but you know it is what it is oh my god it is what it is
Starting point is 01:38:50 i still loved hearing you guys recap it thank you so much oh my god i enjoyed every second of it and i love you so much and i honestly it was a goddamn blessing. My microphone went out because that meant I just got to sit back and enjoy. So yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess we did. Is something wrong? Joel, is it still streaming? Oh, Joel, still going. Still going. Joel says, Joel says it's still going. Okay. I, okay. Okay. So let's wrap it up. Wait, I wanted to ask you guys, cause it ends with her, you know, at like very fancy restaurants, they give you the menu at the end so you can remember. And so it ends with her like wiping her mouth with the menu that he gave her in his to go back. And I just want to know if you guys have ever gone to a restaurant where they give you the
Starting point is 01:39:35 menu at the end. Never have. I've gone to one. Tell us which one. Which one? It was in Bellingham, Washington. When she was there for Hornets hornets hornets attack of the murder hornets available on discovery plus check it out great doc i edited it it's a really good doc edited it and our the director treated us to this very fancy meal
Starting point is 01:40:00 and everyone i was with had clearly had a couple fancy meals before in their lives and they were all saying like what's the best meal you guys have ever had and I was like well mine is this one obviously obviously I had no other stories to share but then I was so confused at the end they like give you the menu and it feels like to remember it by it's like felt like it's like is this homework like what do I do with this I don't know weird it's very weird but um but I did I did keep it for a little while and I just thought, what an interesting, that is interesting.
Starting point is 01:40:30 That's very fancy. I guess I could get being like, what was that thing we had in the fancy? So we did, um, like early pandemic days, we were doing a lot of takeout and, um,
Starting point is 01:40:40 we ordered from Vespertine a few times, which is a very fancy restaurant in LA that is known for doing like a full experience. Like it's like floors of different. It's a whole thing. We did their takeout a few times and they I mean, obviously that would come with a menu, but it was very like deliberate and intentional and like course by course. And that's the only thing I can compare that to. But I wonder, I wouldn't be surprised if you actually go there in person. They give you a menu, but we never have.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Yeah. That's living in such an analog world. Like, who even lives in that type of world anymore? Like, I don't own anything physical at all. Besides the things that I, like, have to. Have to. Absolutely. Like, owning a menu, that is taking up space and the very limited space that
Starting point is 01:41:27 i have where do you put it you know i'm not gonna keep it like am i gonna become a scrapbooker am i gonna become that type of woman i can't become it i'm not gonna give you a screen how dare you make fun of me say that i'm sorry i scrapbooker i don't know i could but I don't think that's in my future and nonetheless it's the type of thing you own for like a year and then you look at it and you're like oh my god even a year is too much I'm gonna put it away yeah I'm gonna throw it out um on that note do we do it you guys thank you for okay this was really fun thank you for... Okay, this was really fun. Thank you for... Not a hitch, not a single hitch. My thing about this is that nothing went wrong.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Nothing went wrong and it was a smooth sailing start to finish. What I'm going to take away from this the most is how seamless it was. So seamless. And it was seamless and it was good and nobody has any complaints. Okay, Okay. I just want to say, I just want to say, I just want to say, we've been doing this podcast for three and a half years. We're at like 170 episodes.
Starting point is 01:42:35 And this at the very beginning, this to me is the closest we've gotten to the beginning energy of like us on my couch a little bit drink just hanging out with our friends is why we started this podcast that's like what it is this is true and we get to do it so rarely now and i just like this is really this is why this is why i'm sorry i am sorry that people paid money and gave their time to like watch this. But for me, this is like what it all is. And I am just I'll never not be so grateful. I had a great time. I had a great time with my friends and fucking making Joel bring us drinks.
Starting point is 01:43:18 And it's just this is all I ever want. This is so cool. We hope you guys enjoyed yourselves as well. And we'll do it again sometime soon, I ever want. This is so cool. We hope you guys enjoyed yourselves as well and we'll do it again sometime soon I'm sure. And do we have anything else to say? Is that it? I think that's it. Happy
Starting point is 01:43:35 holidays everybody. Happy holidays. This is just this is so cool. This is so cool. We love you guys so much We really love you Thank you for joining us This movie was not good and not scary
Starting point is 01:43:52 But there were some good elements And some scary elements I was scared at a point In watching it We know how to say Rafe We know how to say Anya These names are crazy this is not how they're spelled they should not be this way but it is what it is but we've we've learned it and
Starting point is 01:44:11 this was worth all of our time I'm sure I think it's worth all of our time okay we should say bye we love you guys we really love you guys we really really do thank you so much thank you so much wow oh I have to end it i have to end it you have to end it yes it doesn't end until i end it so i'm gonna end it and here i go here's the mouse we love you guys have a great night happy holidays we love you thank you my friends for listening to another episode of Too Scary Didn't Watch. If you had fun hanging with us, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. We're also on Twitter and Instagram at TSDW Podcast.
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