Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE NIGHT HOUSE

Episode Date: March 2, 2022

Confusing floor plans, mysterious knocking, and enough brandy to fill a lake - we're recapping The Night House! Listen to find out if David Bruckner has made a new fan.Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8WQGXkif_sYou can rent The Night House for $3.99 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them and I tell you about them and we are missing our Henley this week. That's why we're gasping and gasping. We knew we knew we were missing her but it's still it hits hard, you know?

It hits hard when you hear that gap in the intro. Yeah, it really shook me to my core. But yeah, okay. How are we doing this week, Emily? Just you and me? Did anything scary happen to us? It's an intimate little moment we're having, just the two of us. This is intimate little moment we're having, just the two of us. I, okay, so I have moved. I have moved apartments. It's official. Congrats.

Thank you so much. I have not, I will say I have not fully moved out of my other, my old apartment. Like I moved in here, but I still have to like clean. I have to do all the like shitty stuff now. It sucks.'m not that part sucks so that'll be scary it is a looming scary thing that i have to deal with but i haven't done it yet what i have done is begun the process of incorporating a new cat into a home with three other cats to make a total of four cats a total of four cats in this home um and total of four cats in this home. And now the way I phrased that is maybe confusing. I did not get a new cat.

Good God, no. No more cats are being added to this home beyond what we already have. This is the amount that you already had between the two of you. It's the existing amount. Joel for very long has had two cats. I have had Mabel. And then, as

some listeners may remember, over quarantine, a little kitten started living in the yard, Joel's yard at the time. And we couldn't say no to him. He's so special. He's so cutie. So that brought Joel's total up to three.

My total remained at one. I have moved in with Joel and now we have four cats. That in and of itself, pretty scary. It's a lot of cats. Don't get me wrong. It's also amazing. But, you know, you have to be very intentional about incorporating cats so that if anyone who is not

a cat owner is like, you may not know that it's a fucking whole thing to incorporate cats. You can't just bring a cat into a house with other cats and be like, figure it out. That will go so wrong and it will be very bad. So we're following a strict regimen laid out by Jackson Galaxy, some of you may know.

Cat Whisperer, very famous cat. I'm familiar, I'm familiar. Yes, cat professional. And I will say so far it's going fabulously and slowly. Because especially like, you know, Joel has three cats, so we're doing every

step of this process times three, which takes longer. So it started with you have a base camp for your new cat so mabel and i are in the office um at all times well not me i get to leave but mabel's in the office at all times and um and then she's there and they and they never see each other she never lays eyes on these other cats um and you just let them become aware of each other's sense and you um once the the new cat is am i going to talk about this for fucking like four

hours i need to speed it up um once the new cat is comfortable in their quarantine environment you can do um what's called site swapping we're still in stage one. Site swapping is stage one and you again, never let them see each other. You cover their freaking eyes. I would put Mabel in her carrier, cover it with a blanket, bring her out, put the existing cat, or in our case, three cats, into

Mabel's base camp. They can smell it, get a feel for her while she gets to roam the rest of the house alone, free of other cats, but she can smell the smells it feel for her while she gets to roam the rest of the house alone free of other cats but she can smell the smells you do that a bunch of times um until they seem comfortable and are aware of each other's scents meanwhile you are feeding them on opposite sides of a closed door so mabel's in the office and they're on the other side of the door and they eat at the same time on opposite sides of the door so they're aware of each other but

they again can't see each other and you start with the bowls far apart and you bring closer and closer and closer to the closed door. And once they're comfortable with that, then you're ready for phase two. Phase two is they still don't interact with each other, but they are able to see each other. We allow eye contact. So what we do is we feed them now on opposite sides of a baby gate. I have a baby gate that I purchased for this process. But, you know, because, again, three cats. So they were doing it one at a time.

And so it's taking a while. But we've made eye contact with every cat. Every cat has locked eyes with Mabel. How did it go go what were the reactions you know what i was very nervous about bringing mabel into this home because she has only lived with me solo solo no other cats the only she's a lot um she's got a big personality um she uh the only interaction i've seen her have with another cat is when a neighbor like neighborhood cat came up to my doorstep and she could see him through the screen door and she fucking from across the room

like charged the door hissing. Like, I was like, oh, if the door weren't there, she would have fucking attacked this cat. Yeah. So I was nervous. She's doing so well. These cats are doing so well. I'm so proud of them. I'm so proud of all of our cats.

They're being really good to each other. They are, you know, we're getting a little, some hisses. Sure. And, you know, some little, like, that kind of growl but not like nobody's everybody's body language is good nobody is scared nobody feels threatened everybody's just a little bit annoyed and like that's fine that's fair i i keep describing the tone also this is all i've been thinking about for two weeks now and i feel like a very unwell but I would describe Mabel's meows the tone of them as like ill like she just

does a little like ugh and then is fine like it's not like fuck you no it's not fuck you it's not like oh my god oh my god oh my god it's just like ugh like why so that's sort of where we're at but I'm so I'm really i'm so proud of everybody and so

pleased because this could have you know this could have it's already taken two weeks and that's that's it going well yeah so it could have really been a lot worse and we're very pleased yeah that's great i really am surprised to hear how long the process is. Because, yeah, I had a friend who did what you described, where they just threw two cats into a house together. And it did not go well for a while, but then they eventually did become friends. But it was like they just fucking fought and fought and hated each other for a long time. And then they one day got over it and started bathing each other. Yeah, that can happen.

That can definitely happen. But it just seems like a much more stressful yeah we're trying to get it environment for everybody by the time they're all like in the house together they we're not dealing with like I mean there will be hissing there will be some fights probably but

we don't want anybody to be like what the fuck is going on you know like by the time they're in a room together they'll be like I get it you live here fine um and maybe eventually they'll become friends, I get it. You live here. Fine. And maybe eventually they'll become friends. I don't know. I bet they will. That would be cool. Or still probably at least a week.

I think we're talking two weeks until they're just out in the house together like non-unsupervised. But even that is like one month way faster than i thought it was gonna be so i'll keep you guys posted i you know we'll freaking see yeah keep us posted i'm a lot i feel like it's going well and i hope it keeps going well i think thank you so much thank you sammy has anything scary happened to you this week you know um not not particularly my check-in is going

to be a little bit all over the place here i just have a few a few small things to say and one of them is congrats to the winner of the hot dad tournament oh my god on the ihearttsdw instagram page if you haven't seen it you should really check it out i think he has saved the tournament to like the little story highlights hell yeah and gong yu was the was the victor thank god there is justice which yeah i did i did that was my prediction from the get-go but it's just you know folks she knows her hot dads i know i know my hot dads but yeah and then seamus who runs it also got us a fucking cameo from tony todd oh my god wow seamus thank you what a valentine and he called the podcast too scary don't watch so we will be changing the name for tony

for tony todd's sake um and there was one thing oh yeah and then he also started a fucking subreddit which is just yeah so we there is now a too scary didn't watch subreddit which i have not joined because i feel like i don't know it's weird for me to be in there. So that's... Mommy spying. That's for you guys. I promise I won't peek. She's not going to peek. That's your safe space. Oh, but yeah, it just really delights me to know that it exists because as listeners will know I have really Reddit has slowly

but surely become my little social platform of choice I love it so much but yeah I certainly even if I joined this subreddit I'd have to make a burner you guys can't see the shit I do on Reddit that can't be that can't be public mummies

Reddit it's not naughty. So much as your parents. We're your parents. That's right. But no, I just like the anonymity of Reddit and that I can just post whatever I want. I like the freedom in that. So, yeah.

So that's that's it. None of them are scary, but i just thought they were all worth mentioning because they really made my week and this will come out a little later than we're recording ahead of time because i'm going to a bachelorette party next weekend so sorry if it's old news sorry sorry what do you want from us? Sorry. But this week's movie, I'm so fucking excited about it. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay. I was just going to start talking, but let me tell you what it is.

You don't start talking. Don't start talking first. Okay, it is The Night House, which came out just this past year in 2021. It was one that we had promised to do and then i don't know just kind of we didn't do it and i had to fell off the radar for a bit and the other night and i was trying to decide what to watch i thought you know what we could do that we made a promise we made a promise and you know better late better late than never um it was directed by David Bruckner, who also directed The Ritual. Oh.

And it's written by Ben Collins and Luke Petrowski, starring Rebecca Hall, Sarah Goldberg, Vondie Curtis Hall, and Evan Jonakite. And it is available to rent for $3.99. And I had heard such good things about this movie i remember the poster very well there was a period of time where it was like everywhere in la like plastered up all over the place the poster is very cool um but yeah for some reason i just i just i i guess because it came out like around like around Halloween and so many horror movies came out at that time. And so it just wasn't at the top of my list. But but yeah, I'm really glad I got around to watching it.

And as you guys know, I mean, the ritual is so crazy and I feel like this is similarly. Oh, yeah. Like a lot of the same kind of stuff. I feel like David Bruckner is a really interesting director and I don't know, once you see two movies of a director, you're like, okay, I'm now a fan of this director. As opposed to like, I'm a fan of the movie The Ritual. It's like, okay, now I feel like I'm a fan of David Bruckner. I like what he's doing. Congrats, David. Congrats, you got a new fan feel like i'm a fan of david bruckner i like i like what he's doing congrats david congrats you got a new fan you got yourself a fan and i'll wait and see um we'll try to we'll try to get you a second fan david by the end of this podcast david if

you're listening and we know you are uh we'll try to get we'll try to get me on board let's see if you can do it and if we, maybe we'll start a subreddit. We'll see. Subreddit David Bruckner just talking about his two movies. The two movies. It has a 87% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 68% on Metacritic, and a 6.5% on IMDB. And let me actually look up the budget. Okay.

I guess the budget is not available. Well, David, there's a knock against you. But it made $15 million,, 15.5 million. But that number is meaningless without something to compare it to. Who fucking knows? Was it a success? Was it a huge failure? I just have no idea.

So, oh well. Oh well. It premiered at the 2020 Sundance Film Festival and was then held from release until a year and a half later because of the COVID-19 pandemic. Something about... As if we're not still deeply within it. Because of the COVID-19 pandemic, if you can recall. Yeah, take yourselves back to...

Remember 2020. But that's basically all the trivia I could find. There was nothing about this movie. This movie is so secretive. No budget, no trivia. Oh my God, David. What? David Bruckner holding his cards close to his chest.

It's his secret little movie. David. I want to know. I think the mystery maybe adds a point. I feel like. Yeah, I think we're back. We're back at zero, David. We're back at zero.

You lost one. You gained one. What's it going to be next? Let's just keep a running, running tally. Have you seen. Did you ever watch Third Rock from the Sun starring John Lithgow as a sitcom? I recall the sitcom. I do not believe I ever watched it.

Okay, so the premise is that they're a family of aliens disguised as humans. Fun. And there is an episode where John Lithgow's character learns what tipping is, but like kind of doesn't fully understand it. Good. Just fucking straightforward premise, because then you can do anything. Anything goes. They could be learned. They could learn about anything for the first time. Yeah. I love it. OK, tipping. I'm on board. And so, but he does a little variation on it where he, at dinner, leaves a stack of $1 bills on the table and, like, takes one away anytime the waitress does anything that annoys him or puts it back if she does a good thing. So, David, that's what we'll be doing with you. David, that's you. That's us. That's right now.

So, okay, yeah, that's all i've got let's watch this trailer which is a teaser so okay that's fun yeah i feel like it'll it'll it's it's it's perfect i really like this teaser safe to watch okay All houses where men have lived and died are haunted houses. Through the open doors, the harmless phantoms of their errands glide. With feet that make no sound upon the floors. We meet them at the doorway, on the stair, along the passages they come and go, impalpable impressions on the air, The sense of something moving. To and fro. The Night House.

Where did it are? Whoa! Whoa! Okay! It gets really crazy. movie genuinely like really scared me i think if i had seen this in theaters i would have been terrified because i also heard it was a really loud movie there's a couple of jump scares in it that are got they'll get you they'll get you god it looks so cool and so scary. Before I started watching it,

I saw the first image of the house and I was like, oh, that's so pretty. This looks cool. I wonder if I could, I was going to ask you, do you think I could watch this? And the second the trailer started, I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, it's pretty scary.

I mean, but yeah, did you notice the part in which there's like a man's outline in the in like a negative space and then it turns and looks at her just remember that i will reference it again because that happens a couple times and it's so cool the like production design or whatever they did to do that is like really awesome y'all need to watch that everybody i don't normally say this everybody needs to watch that teaser because wowee that's a good that's a freaking good teaser and i just i pulled up the cast because i'm like every single person i saw in that trailer

looks familiar to me but i also don't like know why do you know what i mean it's one of those where i'm like i've seen you why yeah rebecca is awesome. I mean, she's such a good actress, but you're right. Like, I don't I know that I've seen her in a bunch of stuff and I literally can't name anything. I just watched Passing, which was her directorial debut. She is not in it. Oh, cool. Man, you know what I know her from? Godzilla vs. Kong. Oh my gosh, there was a trivia that I didn't include that she said. The practical effects in the night house was refreshing after doing so much green screen work on Godzilla. Godzilla. Okay, this guy.

Why do I know him? He's married to Zosia Mamet. Oh, it's easy. The Netflix show, Easy. that's what I recognize him from I didn't see that it was pretty good and then the other girl I recognize from Barry that one I knew

yep yep yep that one I knew and then this other guy I recognize and do we like this does everybody like this thing that I'm doing which is just taking myself down my own memory to figure out why people. It's hard to not, like, when you see something you recognize, your brain wants to understand. You know what I recognize him from, which is a thing I haven't even seen, so it must just be the trailer? Eve's Bayou.

Or did I watch Eve's Bayou? I did watch Eve's Bayou, right did I watch Eve's Bayou? I did watch Eve's Bayou. Right? I can't remember. I did. I know. What an interesting moment to not know if I, like now the podcast has fucked with my memories where I'm like I know it so I must have seen it.

Guys, this is what we can do for all of you. This is the whole point of the Freaky Podcast is that you can not only tell people you've seen things you might convince yourself that you might believe that you have seen it make you believe um okay i know where everybody that i recognize from that trailer i know why i recognize them and now i can continue okay i'm sorry i'm gonna stay on it for just a second longer please stay on it because i i i think one of the most frustrating moments and this happens occasionally to me is when you recognize

someone an actor and you look at their imdb page and nothing makes sense and you're like no i like know this person or or you'll see like one movie that you've seen them in where they're like a tiny part that you don't even really remember that movie and you're like there's no way they made that big of an impression on me that I'm having this reaction yeah it drives me crazy when I recognize someone and then can't make it make sense you know what you know what I'm gonna stay on this I'm gonna stay on this you know what drives me crazy that happens sometimes in LA I see someone and I recognize them and I'm like to stay on this. I'm going to stay on this. You know what drives me crazy? That happens sometimes in LA. I see someone and I recognize them. And I'm like, I recognize them because they're an actor.

And I don't even know how to look them up. Like I'm like, I don't know what their name is. And I don't know what I recognize them from. So I just have to sit there being like, what? What is it? And I've done this before. I try putting in like search terms where I'm like, guy, actor who looks like this.

Yeah, like brown hair, 30s. Doesn't get you there. Also, as I'm saying this, I'm realizing there was a time before the internet entirely where people just had to like wonder. And we're so frustrated because we're like, why don't I have the answer immediately?

Immediately. I know I do need that immediate gratification. Instant gratification. Tell me. Make it make sense. Maybe before the internet, people were just more used to... Like, maybe now that we know we can know, it makes the not knowing worse. I think that's right.

Did it used to be tough? Yeah, I think people probably used to not really care. People probably used to not care. what a time what a time to be alive oh yay yay also oh man i just had another moment i was like that you know we're not that young anymore do you know what i mean like it used to be like if you would talk about like when we were like 20 if you talk about oh time before internet everybody like oh you know that i i remember getting like a lot of eye rolls when

i was like younger and i would say things like that because it's like most of us lived in that world right now that's not true and like we are now old enough that that's not true right it's like we're like our parents with cell phones yeah yeah right where i'm like i didn't have my first cell phone until eighth grade and it was a nok a Nokia that you like clicked all the big buttons. And it's like. I guess those are kind of the same time. I know we're still young, you guys, but I just mean we're not the youngest anymore. It's true.

We're not related. Really related to that freaking line. And but Burnham's special inside. You know, it we love it we love him oh the 1990 yeah i got used to meeting people who weren't used to meeting someone who was born in 1990 and it's like fuck yeah we're not fucking yeah that's not it's not nobody cares anymore it's not unique anymore no fucking christ um okay let's talk about the night house let's talk about the night house It's not unique anymore. Nope. Fucking Christ. Let's talk about The Night House. Let's talk about The Night House.

I'm really excited to tell you about it. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, I'm excited. That teaser, it teased. It teased. Yeah, it's good. And I think it delivers. So we'll see, David.

We'll see. David! Money's on the table, David. Let's see what happens. I think it delivers. So we'll see. David, we'll see. David! Money's on the table, David. Let's see what happens. I think we added a dollar for the trailer. Okay, we got one dollar on the table for David. We will mail him the amount of dollar bills that he earns. Yeah, David, we're going to need you to send us your P.O. box.

Because we don't know. We don't know if he needs it because we don't know how much money the movie makes. That's right. So we don't know. Yeah. Does he need don't know how much money the movie makes. That's right. So we don't know. Yep. Does he need it? Should he be sending money to us like David? That's on you, David.

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Very spooky. Where is it set geographically? It's in Syracuse. Is that how you say that? Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. But it's kind of remote in the woods.

It's lakefront. And she has no neighbors around, really. There's some, but they're, you know, far. Far. Too far for probably what's about to happen. Yeah. And so she's arriving home someone is is whispering not whispering but talking really gently to her saying are you sure you're gonna be okay i can stay if you want and she says she says no i'll be fine goes inside of

the house this woman leaves and has given her a Tupperware of food, which is something people usually do when you're in mourning. They will cook for you and give you food. And Beth goes inside, throws that Tupperware straight in the trash and pours herself a big glass of wine. Very rude. And she just this is the middle of the day she starts getting drunk she finishes her wine she goes downstairs to uh into the basement to get bottles of brandy there's a lot they have like a lot of liquor down there and she grabs a bottle of brandy. It's immediately pretty unsettling. Her being in a house by herself. There's a lot of mirrors in this house, a lot of reflective surfaces. So you'll see her shadow kind of moving behind her in a way like I was very on edge. Like, where's the thing going to be? Where's it going to be? was very on edge like where's the thing gonna be where's it gonna be um but nothing happens she is just getting drunk and then she puts on some wedding videos which shows us that it is

her husband who has died oh oh god and she is just watching these wedding videos getting drunk and crying oh and she then that night gets into bed and she is stroking the pillow the empty space next to her and then there is a knock on the door just when you did that i got scared like how often does someone knock on your door that you're not expecting like literally never i literally will pretend i'm not home in the middle of the day. And I know that it's an Amazon delivery person. Like I'm like, shh, shh, shh. And I like, don't move. And I'm like, don't. Don't make a fucking sound. Don't make a fucking sound.

No to the lizard. No to the lizard. No to the lizard. So yeah, imagine being alone in a lake house in the middle of the night and hearing a knock on the door. I would literally, my heart would explode. I would just drop dead on the spot. My heart would literally explode.

So she goes down to investigate. And we got a lot of creeping around in hallways, dark hallways at nighttime in this movie. I'm guessing this house is too big for one person to be in a lot. For sure. For sure too big. She goes down into the basement doesn't see anything and then comes back up and closes the door to the basement behind her and it is kind of an opaque door and as she closes it the silhouette of a man is behind it she sees it like freaks out and opens the door and nobody's there so she just saw this

outline of a man and then it's gone but like a bit of a frosted door to the basement situation is smart yeah basement owners should adopt this practice um and she wakes up the next morning on the like the living room floor she's like been too scared to get back into bed or something uh she wakes up she gets dressed and she is heading out of the house and she sees that the gate to the uh little dock out front of her house is open so that she's again yeah lakefront property and there's a small little dock out front of her house is open. So she's again, yeah, lakefront property and there's a small little dock that has stairs going down to it with a small rowboat

there. And as she notices that this gate is unlocked, she's investigating, looking around, and she sees footprints, like bare footprints coming up from the dock. She steps down to look further,

and she sees that the footprints look like they come just straight out of the water. Like they start just at the edge of the dock, not where the boat is, just at the water's edge. She's creeped out by this, and then there's a loud bang, a gunshot, and all these birds fly out, startles her. She starts making her way back up towards her car and runs into her neighbor and gets startled by him. His name is Mel. And he's so sweet. And he's like, are you okay? What's up? And she's like, did you just hear that gunshot? He's like, no, I didn't hear anything. And I don't know, we just established that she does have one neighbor somewhat close by that, I guess, walks his dog or something. And they seem to have a nice relationship. And she's like, I got to go. I'm going to work. And so she arrives a little bit late to what looks like a teacher's conference. She's at a school and it's a meeting with all the teachers. Everyone looks surprised

to see her there. She goes down and sits next to her friend, Claire, who is Sarah Goldberg, who says, you absolutely did not have to come today. Nobody expects you to be here right now. And she's like, I'll just go crazy if I don't do anything. I still have papers to grade. It's the end of the school year. And so then it goes to a scene in which Beth is in her office grading papers and a disgruntled parent comes in complaining that her son got a C because she said he could make up an assignment and then he could improve his grade. And Beth says he didn't make up the assignment. And she says, well, he came in to do it on the last day of school. And she says, I was out that day. And the parent is like, well, that shouldn't be held against him.

That shouldn't be your fault. And Beth just snaps and is like, my son, I mean, my husband, sorry, my husband shot himself in the head on that day. So that's why I was gone. Do you want a B? Do you want me to give your son a B and just like, let's loose on this woman. And this woman is completely shocked and like, oh, oh, my God, like I didn't I didn't know. I'm so sorry. And like, clearly, Beth just is still very traumatized and just doesn't. She's like, well, like, tell me what I don't fucking care if your son makes up the thing

like this is not a high priority for me. Tell me what grade you want. Like, I literally could care less about this right now. Oh my God. And the woman's like, a B is fine. Yes. Thank you. Oh Lord.

And she, one of the things she says in there is, yeah, my husband killed himself with a gun that I didn't even know we owned. And he did it in a boat out front of our house so we know now that that little rowboat that she saw is where her husband died fuck oh oh fuck um then back at home she goes home after after work i'd argue she is not ready to be back at work. I would think that. I would agree. And she goes home. We see Mel again. And he offers, you know, he says, just say the word and I will tow that boat away.

And she says, she says, no, it's OK. I'm thinking of selling it with the property. She is debating selling the whole house. It's obviously very hard to be there. And she says that Owen built it. He was, he was, we find out he was an architect. And they were married. They would have been married 15 years.

This, they were coming up on their 15th anniversary. So they got married pretty young. Yeah, I was going to say, dang. Been together a long time. Then she's back in the house watching more home movies of him building the house. She's filming him, you know, like cutting wood and stuff. And she's boxing up some of his belongings, which is something that is just... What are those things that you don't think about? But obviously, when someone dies, like all of their stuff is still everywhere.

So she's like putting his toothbrush in a box and that kind of thing where it's just like absolutely devastating. God, that's sad. So she's boxing all of his things up and moving them into've seen. And she's confused and looking further and eventually flips to a floor plan of their house as it is a normal one. And then on the opposite page, there is the reversed floor plan. And he has scribbled some notes that we don't really know what they mean that say like trick it don't listen to it a reverse floor plan what and she's really confused by this but doesn't really know what to make of it oh no and then she goes to bed and again and that night in the middle of the night

the stereo turns on and starts blasting this song. That's probably a significant song to her and Owen because she recognizes it. It's a great song. I've been listening to it now. It's called Calvary Cross. I really like it. But it sounds like kind of a date night song. You know what I mean?

Okay. David, one more dollar for music choice. Mm-hmm. And she's obviously terrified she wakes up in bed she can't move and uh a text comes through on her phone from owen and it says it says come downstairs ah and she is so scared she texts back who is this and he texts back great what what's interesting is i mean it's a horror movie and i believe it's a haunted house movie so i was like oh his ghost is texting but in the real world scenario you would be like oh someone's fucking with me this is bad yeah okay okay well also very very very scary. Either way, we don't like it. It's not good.

It's definitely nothing good. No. And so she he then responds again. Don't be afraid. And she presses call to call him. And it's kind of staticky and weird sounding. She's saying hello. Hello.

And weird sounding, she's saying, hello, hello. And a distorted-y man's voice says, look out the window. Oh, my God. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. And she stands up and she's so scared and starts moving towards the window, looks out and sees on the lake owen naked standing like he's walking on water and he slowly turns to look at her and then she wakes up again on the floor of the living room okay okay crazy that the text don't be afraid didn't work i know hey just look just don't be scared yeah um so first thing she does is she checks her phone the texts are not there it's as if they didn't happen she gets car keys

and goes to her car and grabs a box uh seemingly like a police station box of all the belongings that were on him when he died, including his phone. She powers it on. No text on his end either. But as she's going through his phone, she starts looking through photos and she notices a photo that looks like her in a library looking at a book. But then she kind of looks closer and looks confused. And then we cut to a scene of her showing it to Claire and saying, what do you see? And Claire says, I see you at a bookstore. And she says, that's not me. I don't have that blouse. I've never worn that. That's not me. And she starts thinking like, was Owen having an affair?

Like what is going on? She's really confused. But can you see her face? No, it's like her face is covered. So her hair, it's someone definitely with her like body type, her hair color, hair length. But with just yet her face covered. So anybody would think it is her, but you can't prove it okay okay yeah so she's

kind of spiraling a bit Claire is like trying to comfort her saying you know remember your Owen that Owen that you loved like no matter what else was going on he was that too like he was both and like you don't need to be doing this to yourself and come

come get drinks with me tonight we're going me and two of the other teachers we're going out get your mind off some things so um they go out to drinks that night and again beth is like getting real drunk she's like just drinking brandy is now her drink of choice and she is just chugging it at an alarming pace and they're having a normal chat and then she cuts in Beth cuts in you guys believe in ghosts and starts

Lord just revealing I think I'm being haunted like I think my dead husband is haunting me I got a text and then it's it wasn't there and I don't know what's happening and they're obviously all like very concerned about her that she is not so she's not she doesn't think this is that was a dream she's like this i was asleep i did wake up i got the text and then i i woke up on the floor like yeah okay yeah and i think seeing that silhouette like it's just been creepy enough

in the house that she is okay she's like yeah i'm being haunted okay yeah she's like something is up um and then i can't remember how it comes up but one of the other teachers that's there they're like saying yeah like we're so sorry about your husband um and she's like well now you know he might have been having an affair i like it's like did i even know him and someone asks did he leave a note and she says yes he did and she pulls it out of her purse and she reads it reads it to them everyone is incredibly uncomfortable well kind of a weird question to be completely honest don't don't ask if you don't want to know don't ask about someone's dead husband's suicide note. Don't ask. I think that's a good rule of thumb. Yeah.

So she pulls it out and reads it. And it says, you were right. There is nothing. Nothing is after you. You're safe now. And she is just like, they're like, what? Like, what does that mean? And she's just getting drunker and saying like

i don't know but like my he's haunting me he's back now and claire's like okay we need to get you home and beth is like yeah you're right would i want to keep him waiting like she's just yeah leaning into it um then back at home claire takes Beth home and Beth continues drinking. She's like pouring more drinks. Claire's like, please, like, I don't think you should drink more. And Beth is like, I lied about the note. I do know what it means. And she says, did I ever tell you when I was 17, I died for four minutes.

And everybody asked me afterwards. She got in a car accident and was legally dead for four minutes. And everybody asked me afterwards, she got in a car accident and was legally dead for four minutes. And afterwards, everybody asked me, what did you see? What did you feel in that four minutes? And I could see how much they wanted something. And so I lied and said, I saw a light or something like I would make something up. But the truth is, there was nothing. There's no light at the end of the tunnel. It's just tunnel. And I can't unknow that. And so I like I know what's going to happen when you die. And it's just nothing. Like an awareness of nothing? Yeah. I think I think that's what she means. And so. Oh, yeah. And so she's like drinking, drinking, drinking, eventually lays down onto Claire's lap and is kind of, you know, drinking herself into into sleeping and is getting tired and starting to fall asleep and just says you know can you stay here stay till stay till I fall asleep and it gets really quiet and then there is like one of the biggest jump scares

I've ever seen this and there's one in the haunting of hill house that stand out as like the two craziest jump scares I've ever seen because it's coming from like complete silence and then it's like every noise in the house happens like the radio blasts on the wind chimes are are flying the wind angels fly are flying around like crazy times i would know that's actually kind of a good sign. And Claire is gone. And it's like it's now the middle of the night. And she jumps up and she's trying to confront whatever's happening. She's yelling, you want to say something? Talk to me.

She grabs a flashlight and goes outside and sees someone running like behind in the through the woods and turns is like hello and then more women start running and they're just like these women it's women like running through the woods and jumping off the cliffs at the end and she doesn't know what's happening and then sees across the lake a house lit up that looks like her house and a voice says in her ear the boat and so she goes she goes down to the dock and the boat looks as it was the day that her husband killed himself. It is like covered in a plastic tarp with blood all over it. And his clothes folded into a pile. So maybe he was naked when he died because we saw him naked on the water. We see she she keeps saying like, Owen, Owen, are you here? And we see again the bloody footprints come out of the water and she's looking scared, but also a little bit excited. Like there's a part of her that is like, Owen, is that is that really you? Like, are you really here?

Show me if you're here. Like, Owen, is that really you? Like, are you really here? Show me if you're here. And she closes her eyes and just surrenders to this moment and then is dipped backwards as if in a dance. But it also knocks her out or like knocks her into a trance. And then she is lowered into the boat, seemingly unconscious now, and rowed across the lake to the other side where the other house is. And she wakes up and climbs out of the boat, sees the house. It looks exactly like her house, but the reverse.

The numbers, like the address is backwards backwards like everything is backwards of this house and she looks up into the windows it's lit up and inside the bedroom is a woman who looks like her it's not her and owen comes up behind this woman in a like sexual way and then in an aggressive way. And the woman turns and runs, and Owen kind of hangs his head in his hands, looking ashamed. And then Beth sees this sort of thing repeat in other windows of the house, and eventually goes to go into the house, opens the door, the front door, and then it's daytime all of a sudden. And Beth sees herself sleeping on the couch in the living room. And then Beth wakes up on the couch in the living room and looks to the door that she just opened and it's open.

It's a very cool sequence. Whoa. It is trippyppy as hell i'm giving a dollar for it um so then beth gets up and she pulls owen's computer out of a box a little laptop and starts looking through his photos locates the one photo of the woman in the bookstore and somehow finds the original files in his computer and finds photos of a ton of other women that look like her like it's a dozen women that's just all these different photos of women um and oh my she gets she goes to the other side of the lake now looking for that house that she saw in the dream sequence whatever happened she's over there searching and she runs into mel who is over there walking his dog he's like what are you what are you doing over here i think this is mel's property maybe i'm not sure. But she's like, I'm just on

a walk. Hope you don't mind. But she's being a little not herself right now. She's got an intense energy about her. And he's like, I do mind, actually. I don't think you should be wandering around out here. It seems you're not in a good way. And I just feel like it's just not the best idea. And he's like, come to my house for lunch. Like, you need to not be alone right now. And she's like, okay, I'm just going to finish my walk and then I'll come over there. He reluctantly agrees and leaves her. And she continues looking in the woods and she finds markings on some trees and follows the markings and finds the house. And it is not like the house we saw. It is not a completely constructed house.

It's still under construction. So there's tarp and it's not fully built. But it is, she can tell, the reverse floor plan of her house. And she goes inside. It's real creepy and weird, like what the fuck is going on? And she finds a really scary doll. It's a woman figure with her hands and feet bound together and like poles sticking through her everywhere like she's a pin cushion type thing looks very i don't know like cursey type thing oh no and then she hears footsteps upstairs in the house and she just she she's so freaked out she just like runs out and and leaves and goes straight

to mel's house and accuses him like okay tell me what oh she has the doll with her and she shows him tell me what the hell this is he looks so lost he's like wow i have no idea and she's like you were trying to keep me away from the house the house is back there he's like i've never seen a house in my back there like i don't know what you're talking about. And she says, oh, and he was like building a reverse house. Why was he doing that? Tell me everything you know. And Mel says, I did see Owen there once with a woman.

I thought it was you. And so I called out to them and she turned and I saw it wasn't you. I got, you know, I didn't know what to do, so I left them. But Owen later came to me and said he had bad urges that he was going to stop. He needed to figure out a way to stop these urges. And she says, what urges? And Mel says, you'll forgive me if I didn't feel the need to ask. Like, obviously, he was cheating on you is basically what he's saying in this moment. I think more than that.

I think more. I think cheating and murdering. Ew. Oof. Yeah. I have urges. Ugh. Ugh.

oh yeah i have urges she goes back to to her house and again starts digging through more of owen's stuff in the boxes finds these books that are like of the occult she finds a diagram of this of this sculpture woman that she has found and it's something to like weaken dark forces she doesn't know what the fuck this is but she sees that all of these books are from the same bookstore so she decides to go to that bookstore to go ask some questions from the picture it sure is oh my god and she finds that woman she recognizes her and goes up to her. Okay, so she's alive. She is alive. Wow, I'm on the edge of my freaking seat. What an interesting thing that's happening here.

Yeah. So she finds the woman and says, like, confronts her. It's like, I think you know my husband, Owen. And it takes the woman a second. Her name is Madeline, this woman. And she's like, I don't know. And she says his full name.

I can't remember their last name, but eventually Madeline is like, oh, and looks ashamed. And she says, well, don't worry. Like he killed himself. He's dead now. So the situation's been resolved in a way. And Madeline is like completely shocked. And she's like, you know, since you fucked my husband, like you want to tell me like all the details, like tell me who you are, tell me what he did. And she's like, we did not have sex, but we, you know, we flirted.

We went out for drinks once, but we never we never slept together. Lucky for you, Madeline, I think. And then Beth leaves and is like, OK, storms out, goes back home, pours herself another brandy and is kind of challenging the ghost. Now she's like, if you've got something to say, like, come and say it. Like, what's up? What are you what are you hiding from me like what the fuck is going on and um there's a at the house and she is looking around searching for the source of it and she goes down into the basement and is looking around. All this furniture is stacked up in there in weird ways. It's very much a storage room. And as she's

walking past something, something catches her eye. And the way that the curvature of one of the pillars in the room lines up with the frame of a doorway further back, almost like an optical illusion, creates the outline of a man in negative space. And she stops and kind of scrunches her brow looking at it like, that's weird. And then it turns and looks at her. And she freaks out. She drops her brandy. And she runs upstairs. And then she sees Madeline is at the door.

Madeline is at the front door. Of her home? Of her home. Oh. And she lets her in and is like, how did you know where to come? And Madeline says, well, I've been here before. Yay. Kiss her. O here before and she comes in they sit down she pours them each a nice glass of brandy there's so much so much drinking in this movie so also like can you imagine going to someone's house and being

offered just a full glass of brandy without asking for it, I'd be like, okay, sure. I think Madeline is happy for it because it's obviously an awkward conversation there about sure. And she says, I thought there was something you should know. I wanted to tell you that Owen took me to a house across the lake. And this house is unfinished, right? It's unfinished. And she says there wasn't much to see, but he was still really proud of it.

And we kind of just held each other there for a bit. I know it sounds stupid, but it actually felt really nice. And he just like he started to cry in my shoulder. And then he put his hands around my throat and I told him to stop. And you can see Beth's face is horrified. And she says, I told him to stop and he did stop. People have a different barometer for that kind of thing. I think it was just a miscommunication, but it scared me. And he took me home and he was really apologetic about it. And he said he knew what he had to do, that he had to end it for good. said he knew what he had to do that he had to end it he had to end it for good and so i just thought i should come to tell you that like he obviously felt really guilty about cheating on you and he was like planning on ending it like that's what he was talking about right no madeline it's not no it is not i believe he was referring to shooting himself in the head. That would be my guess as well.

Ugh. So Madeline leaves. Beth grabs another flashlight and decides to go back to that house across the lake. It's pouring rain now. It's creepy as hell. It's all very foggy. And I don't know. You know, just like flashlights

panning through fog and rain and everywhere just nighttime nighttime yes no and it looks yeah just everything you're just on edge and expecting something to come from anywhere like an outline in the fog or something because it, because this figure keeps appearing in negative spaces. So she goes in and again is drunk, challenging Owen's ghost, saying, show me where you are, tell me what the fuck is going on. And she drops her flashlight, is going on and she drops her flashlight and it rolls in a you know not normal way to a certain spot on the floor and like not where gravity would have normally taken it so she takes this as a sign and goes to that spot and sure enough her foot plunges through the the wood in that spot rude um she doesn't fall through but it just breaks an opening

in the floor that she looks into and sees a bunch of women's dead bodies No! in plastic bags Oh no! underneath the floorboards of this house.

That's one of the worst things you could find! It is can find it is bad it is bad and she runs home she's sobbing she is freaking out and she calls claire not the police uh fuck cops i get it call your friend claire she'll know what to do I wouldn't want to be Claire. I would not want to be Claire. Look, if this happens to either of us, like if this happens to you, definitely call me. But but also first call the police. Yeah.

Yeah. I think that's when dead bodies are. And yeah, exactly. Murderers are involved after. Yeah. You know, i think this situation warrants multiple phone calls yes uh yeah yeah yeah so but she just calls claire claire does not answer but she leaves obviously a very distressing message crying saying i like i

need you to come here i felt him i felt my husband like she keeps like feeling obviously his his presence and like she's like, I know he's here. I know that's what's happening. And it hangs up and then gets in the shower. She starts calming down. And while she's in the shower, that song starts blasting again. And she turns off the shower, gets out out um comes out is looking around the house and the song turns off and she just breaks down in the bedroom and starts crying and crying and crying and she's like owen like i miss you i just i miss you. I just I miss you. I miss you. I miss you so much.

Like, I just miss you. I love you so much. It's really sad. And she's like, please, like, if you're here, just show me that you're here. Like, I want to talk to you. And she looks up and in the steam on the bathroom mirror, it says here. Someone has written here. She gets up and she starts walking in. She looks cautious, but excited. And she reaches out to where she kind of senses his

presence. And you see her fingertips press up against something. It's a pretty cool, like practical effects of showing that she is touching something and feeling it. And then it shows someone touching her skin, like the indentation on her skin, like she has been caressed by someone. And it's very like breathy and intimate. And she's like allowing herself to be touched by her ghost husband. And she like reaches and hugs him.

And you can see that she's like hugging a person. She's holding him. He lifts her up onto the bathroom counter in a sexual way like does she about to have sex with this ghost it's getting pretty pretty steamy it's steamy in this room in general but it's you know she's being you um i mean maybe i'm sort of like i mean I mean Maybe I'm sort of like I mean It'd be hard you love him it'd be hard to say

No you know if it was like Well you're dead but you're also Here yeah I think I would Well let's see what happens Here okay yeah I'll Our answers might change. Maybe it's bad.

But in this moment, I'm thinking I'm on board. It is. It's like it's very feels like sexy and romantic. And it's like, damn, she's about to have sex with her ghost husband. And she is looking like she is enjoying it. She's like, you're really here. And the voice says, yes. And she's like holding him.

She's like, Owen.'s like owen and he says no i'm not owen and she freaks out obviously jumps up the bathroom door slams her in there no oh god oh god oh god and in the reflection of the bathroom mirror she like wipes away the here and in the reflection she sees a woman who looks like her also locked in this bathroom and then sees owen coming in behind this woman and attacking her slamming her head against the mirror meanwhile beth is having her head slammed against the mirror by this ghost who is not owen and she then after her head is hit the bathroom door is is then just open and she looks out into her bedroom and it is now reversed the floor plan is reversed but it's like a her full house and she

walks into the bedroom is very scared doesn't know what the fuck is going on and starts seeing women being killed like all over her house she sees a woman that looks like her like reverse crawling under the bed there's like whispering happening like hide, hide, hide. And she sees Owen dragging a woman in that is already dead. And she's just now running through the house trying to get out and just seeing all these various murder scenes happening, like watching them all play out, all these women be killed. And the house is also kind of shifting. And we see again, negative spaces forming the shape of a man. So there's a part where the hallway looks like a man's head. It's really trippy and cool the fucking way they did this. It looks so good. And she is just

basically her house has kind of become a maze of all of her husband's crime scenes and she is half running away from it and half being mirroring what's happening to the women so there's parts where she's dragged along the floor like mirroring the whatever victim at the time it's happening to and so she's trying to escape this the house is very creaky like the wood creaking is all i don't just i don't know wood creaking freaks me out i don't know why it's a scary sound effect um and as she is pulled dragged down the hallway she has end up thrown into the living room, which is now lit up and decorated like it's Christmas

time with a fire burning. And she sees on the couch is Owen with Beth in his lap. And she is behind them. And he turns profile view to look at her. And he says,

you left the night the night we met, you left me. And she looks confused and says, you're not Owen. And he says, I'm the one you saw that night that you died. And she said, that night I saw, and he answers, nothing answers nothing and he says i'm what you felt when your heart stopped you saw me and i have been with you ever since i asked owen to give you back to me and she's kind of she's trying to put this together and saying and realizing that. Owen had been this entity had found Owen and was like whispering into his ear basically to kill his wife the whole time. And so he had this urge to kill his wife. And she like remembers a time that he also put his hands on her throat.

And she remembers a time that he also put his hands on her throat. And Owen's solution to this was just to kill women who looked like was murdering his wife in his house and it kept giving them a little you know moment of reprieve from being hunted by this nothingness whoa and this nothingness because she died and it was mad that she didn't stay dead yeah yeah and it like fell in love with her it's horny for her i think it's just trying to lure her back by any means necessary but it is taking like the form of her husband and so if you okay it feels like there's some, you know, tension. How? Okay. And then Owen, Owen, nothing Owen, fake Owen, starts then strangling the Beth that is in his lap.

And the Beth that is watching then wakes up in the lap. They switch places again. And she looks up and the way that the ceiling, the like curves of the balcony on the ceiling, it like makes it like looks like a man's face is looking down at her. But it's not. And she gets up. There's nobody there. She's alone in the house, but still nighttime.

And then she is just pulled away by a force, again dragged down another hallway. And she starts being, her hands being pulled to her feet. And she starts getting bound up in that same position as the sculpture we saw. And she is like pulled up in the air. And everything's all red lighting, crazy and it's really intense and she looks out she's upside down and she looks out the window and sees two moons one red moon and one regular moon and then it cuts to the next morning claire arriving obviously concerned about the voicemail that she received. Claire, you better be really concerned. And Claire is calling out, Beth, where are you, Beth?

And finds that the gun that Owen used to kill himself is missing from the evidence bag. And Claire snaps into a panic mode and is like, Beth, Beth, Beth, runs to the dock, realizing maybe that's what's happening, a recreation. And sure enough, Beth is alone in the boat. And it's not at the dock. It's kind of floating a bit bit away and she has the gun uh on her lap and then we cut to beth's pov and she is seemingly in another dimension with this owen nothing man sitting across from her and he says and or she asks him she looks so defeated at this point too rebecca hall's performance in this is so good and we've had little hints that she really struggled with depression her whole life and she said owen never did like i was the one with mental health things owen never had that

and um so now she looks just like completely like she has given up and like looks like, you know, sinking into like a depression. And she's just says, you know, where where is he? Where's where is Owen? And he responds, he's gone. But you already knew that. And we see now Mel has heard Claire screaming and running towards them. So Claire and Mel are running down the dock, like trying to get to her. And back in the nothing dimension, he tells Beth, there is nothing.

There's only me. Like, come back to me. You can let go. Like, You don't have to be here. And she starts raising the gun to her head and looks like she contemplates it and then changes her mind and sets the gun down and just kind of looks at the nothing man. kind of looks at the nothing man and then the dimension disappears and it's daytime in the real world and we see claire swimming out to her pulling her out of the boat dragging her onto the dock beth looks kind of like a shell of a person claire's shaking her like are you here are you here beth and eventually bet says, I'm here.

I'm here. And Beth looks out at the boat and is staring at it and not talking and just staring, staring, transfixed, staring at the boat. And we see the way that the ripples on the water, like shadows on the ripples of of the water make it look like a man's figure is sitting in the boat and mel says what are you looking at there's there's nothing there and she says i know and that's the end of the movie whoa whoa that's cool there's also like a nice Whoa. That's cool. There's also like a nice long pause of black before the credits. So it's just like nothing for a bit, which I thought was a nice touch. Wow.

Okay. Okay, David, I will give you $5. Send us your P.O. box. We will be giving you five. Wow. Oh, I really liked that that was fascinating i liked it so much um i'm glad that i didn't know much about it going in yeah and there really are kind of a lot of similarities with the ritual like i feel like both have you know mentions of the occult and these really surreal dream sequences and they're just like about how process like how different people process grief and the trauma of that

yep yeah it was it was really i really enjoyed it um and i was reading a review that talked about, I don't know, it said it in such clearer ways than I'm about to. But just how, not even just with people who have had near-death experiences, but just the fact that death is always coming for you is just the scariest thing. just the scariest thing and also how when you are depressed how that's both terrifying and also something that you like want to sometimes like feel like you want to give into like it's like that it's like well if there's nothing then what's the fucking point but then it's also terrifying what's like well if i die then there's nothing then yeah oh man and then i also just think having the person you love be like a stranger to you is a really scary thing like not knowing that your partner of 15 years was murdering people like oh yeah wow wow yeah i liked it i liked it i liked it but i do think it is pretty scary i mean it did scare me yeah i i the images from the the teaser looked very very scary but worth a watch if you're brave, I would say. And yeah, that's about all I got to say about this movie.

Good job, David. Good job, David. We're fans. We're fans. I think we gained a fan. You know, we'll keep you posted on the subreddit TBD if we create a subreddit for you. TBD. Wow.

So her freaking voice, is she British in it or is she American? No, she's British in real life. She's American. Okay. There's just a creepy ghost voice. A little deep creepy voice. So, listeners, from all of us here at Too Scary to Don't Watch, goodbye.

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