Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE OTHERS

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

Nasty nightgowns, creepy child drawings and one hot dad - we're recapping The Others! We are continuing our journey through the decades with this early 2000s haunted house film. Thank you to our patrons for choosing it! Now close your curtains tight and join us.TrailerMovie talk begins @ 25:25Recap begins @ 38:21Get tickets to our live show on October 29th @ 5pm PT/8pm ETFollow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we have a baby. We have a baby, folks. You might notice Henley's not here.

Henley is missing. She's not missing. We know where she is. In fact, we know exactly where she is. We're not going to tell you. But we have a baby. We have a collective podcast. Daughter.

Wow. A daughter. Yeah. Wow. Really crazy. Really crazy. Very exciting. Everyone's doing well. Henley will be back and tell us all about it. But, um, but yeah, that's, it's, that's the big news here on the, that's the big news. It's huge news. And I just want to say, we'll leave it all to Henley to talk about and tell you all about. I just want to let, you know, fans of the name Pig Face, Wig Face, just start to prepare yourself for disappointment. Just sort of just, you know, let that sink in or sit with it a little bit. I can reveal that is not the name of Henley's daughter, unfortunately. But it's a good name. You're really gonna like it. But, you know, the show must go on, as they say. And so we are finishing our,

or continuing, rather, our Decades series. We're doing the early 2000s, 2000 to 2009, and we got a haunted house movie today. But before we get into it, we also have some haunted housekeeping. And that is that we have a live show coming up just next weekend, or this weekend rather, when this episode airs. That's true. Sunday, October 29th at 5 p.m. Pacific, 8 p.m. Eastern.

It's going to be a live virtual show with correspondent Paul F. Tompkins, where we are going to be recapping The Pope's Exorcist. I'm so excited. Streaming on Netflixflix so be sure to watch beforehand if you're brave if you're very brave tickets are available at moment.co slash tsdw i will admit i have not started my ha costume yet. I'm getting nervous, but I have all week to do it. Don't worry. Don't worry. Nobody worry.

Nobody freak out. We're going to have Halloween costumes. Paul, I'm sure, is going to have a Halloween costume. Paul, if you're listening and you don't have a Halloween costume, get your act together. Henley will, who knows if she'll be there yeah tbd knowing henley she's probably gonna try which is maybe insane but you know you're gonna have to join and find out i can't wait i can't freaking wait and it's gonna be available as a video for uh the week after that show for anybody who wants to be able to watch it participate but

can't be there right on the 29th because you've got freaking holiday weekend plans we support it you can still get a ticket and enjoy the freaking show i'm so excited i just got preemptively sad that halloween's gonna be over and then it's going to be November. You know how you just like, I'm not living in the moment. I'm just like already living in future disappointment. In the future disappointment. Yeah. It's, I mean, but honestly, but then it's November and which means we're getting into Thanksgiving prep. We're getting into Christmas prep. We're thinking about new years. We don't need to be sad until January, which I just started to go to being sad in January. Always, always to go. Maybe we'll have to do another like fun January series or something to make January less. Yeah. Sad. Yeah. Yeah. I

think that's a good idea. It's not January yet. Everything's fine. Everything's fine right now. Let's not think about the future. Let's think about the past, aka the year 2000 to 2009. The single year 2000 to 2009. But before we get, we got, I mean, Sammy, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let's think about the past as in this past calendar week. Oh my God, I really did. I don't know where to go in time. We're all over the place. But right now we're here and we're together and I want to know if anything scary happened to you this week. It did, Emily. Something scary did happen to me. I'm going to talk about cats again and I'm sorry. I don't do a lot. i live at home alone with two cats i'm not sorry i want to hear it this week i got in the middle of a cat fight a real honest to goodness cat fight

and it was like those cartoon drawings of a like motion ball with just like claws coming out of it and like a meow swirly lines so what happened was just to preface this i because i think this is maybe what set the mood is that i'm i'm fairly certain a coyote was killing a cat nearby. There were some like in the moment, not in the exact moment, but leading up to the moment. So that was how we were all feeling. We were on edge. Okay. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there was some very bad, very bad animal sounds happening. I had a brief thought of, should I go out there and try to break that up? And then was like, no, that's probably a bad idea. But they were really, really terrible sounds. And then the sound stopped. So I, you know, deduced what might have happened. And so here's the dynamics in my house. Mac is my more territorial cat. He's the alpha bunk. My sweet boy is the beta

defers to Mac and part of Mac's territory is the bedroom at night. Bunk sleeps on the couch. It's just, it's just the way it has to be in order for us to live in peace. Yes. Fair. But because of these noises, bunk was was in my room, but in the window looking outside. And Mac didn't notice that he was there until I turned the lights off and Bunk's silhouette behind the curtain appeared. behind the curtain appeared and Max saw it immediately poofed up huge, assuming it's a different cat. I think like just was so surprised by this silhouette flew off the bed at the curtain. I hear bunk hissing. I know what's about to happen. And what I do in these moments is I separate them. I usually pick one up and just get it out, get them out and close the door between them. So I go to pick up bunk to take him out of the room and they're both hissing. And as I'm turning to exit the room, I've got my back towards the bed.

Mac jumps on my back to try to get at bunk. So you're truly sandwiched between two cats. Between them. Bunk obviously freaks out and he's, I don't know that he was really retaliating as much as just like trying to get away from the situation, but I hadn't clipped either of their nails in a while. And my reaction was surprising to me because I just said calmly, ow. And then I like sulked. I wasn't mad at either of them. I did separate them. And then Mac was trying to cuddle again.

And I was just like, no. No, you jumped on my back. I'm mad at you. just like no no you jumped on my back i'm mad at you and you made me it makes me sad that you guys are such yeah problem children sometimes and i mean you know next day they went back to cuddling and best friends and it's just it's just it's so much drama so much drama How are you healing? Actually really well. Okay, good. But it looked bad at the time. Yeah, it was just a, it all happened so fast, you know? Yeah.

Oh yeah. The intensity with which they go, with which cats can go at each other is truly alarming. They wanted to rip each other apart. They're little beasts. They're little beasts. And you better believe I clipped their nails the next morning. Yeah, I think I'm going to clip some nails right after this. Yeah, PSA, don't forget to clip your cat's nails. You never know when they're going to jump on your back.

When something unexpected could happen. Oh, no. Naughty boys. Naughty boys. I know. And I've got the pheromone diffusers. I've got pheromone spray. I've got high places for Mac to climb to. But I'm just in a small apartment with a lot of feral cats outside. And coyotes and so i think there's just some degree of i'm just this is just the life the hand that i've been dealt that's the hand that you've been taught and we talked about this that they like you know on the one hand they love each

other and they cuddle they get along when they get along because they're brothers but also in the wild two brother cats would not be living together again i made this point to you privately i'll make it publicly we all saw the lion king those brother cats they couldn't do it you know they're not built for it mac is the the the little evil aggressor i mean i love him he's not evil but he is naughty he's naughty scar was more than naughty so we won't we won't go that far but no he is he can be a naughty boy i mean bunks no mufasa let's be honest there like one of the hyenas

oh yeah so um that is kind of the biggest thing that happened to me this week that's a big thing that is a big thing emily you also had some big things happen to you i had a big week i did um honestly maybe one of the like most insane weeks of my life in terms of just like anyway i'm ready to talk about it i wasn't emotional upheaval emotional upheaval i was not ready to talk about it last week i'm ready to talk about it this week and i'm actually if you can believe it i'm gonna talk about a dog not a cat but a dog huge pips so unexpected so a week ago on a friday morning at work i show up in the parking lot and there's a dog there's a dog in the parking lot it's very clear that this is a lost dog nobody knows what to do with this dog i come over i park i come over and this dog just like glues herself to my side. She does this thing where she like really

leans against you. She'll like stand and like lean her weight against you. And she was doing that. She was like, she's leaning against me. I was petting her. We were trying to figure out what to do with this dog for like 30 straight minutes. I'm just petting this dog who's leaning against my side. She is incredible. She has the most, she, her eyes look straight into your soul i was like immediately i couldn't believe i couldn't believe this fucking dog but none of us know what to do because we're like in a very warehousey area and like we're just like what everyone has to go to work like what are we supposed to do with this dog and somebody in our somebody had a leash in their car so they they put the leash on her

we tied her to a fucking pole because they're like we can't let this dog get away but like we don't know what to do she like let us put the leash on her she was so good and i was like well joel's at home let me bring chaos to our doorstep and i called him was like do you want to take this dog to the vet and see if she's chipped like none of us know what to do I know this is insane but Like this dog is incredible and I think that You will want to spend Time with her yeah and he Is a saint of

A man that he is was like yeah okay Sure And he comes together I walk outside When he shows up and he We named her Goldie Goldie has her Head in his lap wagging her tail he's petting her she's like just the sweetest possible thing so it was clear that she was used to people um she she's an american dingo if people need a visual reference um it's the kind of dog

from the movie prey she's really devastating for us to find out given that She's no longer with us but I mean she's alive I shouldn't say no longer with us but No longer physically with me and Joel but Anyway so Joel picks her up He takes her to the vet no chip She's not fixed It seems clear she's in heat Which I learned later that they are more likely to

Run away from home when they're in heat so Guys fix your dogs But He takes her to the vet no chip she's dirty so he takes her to go get a bath he takes her around town friends offer us food and leashes and a friend offers us a crate and we're just like giving her we're like i don't know what the fuck we're gonna do with this dog we have four cats like from the beginning i was like we can't keep this dog we have four cats um but joel was like well i mean better hanging out on our patio that's like really shady and nice then in the parking lot at work like whatever we'll see what happens and you had like posted stuff we posted online

we posted on some yeah and like some you know next door somebody posted um joel made a post on there's like a pet finder website you can be like we found this dog like we did that and i posted on instagram too being like anybody want to talk yeah um because again we're like we can't keep this dog like there's no universe where we keep this dog friday night rolls around i come home from work we cancel all our plans we hang out with this dog we are falling in love saturday morning we get coffee with you and goldie she's amazing i was like well you know before we can because that night joel and i were like okay so we're not gonna keep a dog but like let's just talk about what it would look like if we did um like you know how how could we

potentially keep this dog well i was like well first I have to make sure Sammy likes her. So, you know, let's get that out of the way. She was great. I loved her. She's perfect. And, you know, we just spent a good long. I took her to the vet again to do like a full checkup on Saturday. Super healthy. Around nine months old.

She had some fleas. We got her some flea medicine. You know, we were we were really bonding. We had a great day. we took her to get some toys And some treats We're taking her on walks Fully head over heels falling in love with this dog Saturday night

I have a complete and total meltdown Over just like There's no way we can keep this dog I don't know I'm pretty good at knowing what I want to do And what I will do in a situation Pretty strong ability To just fucking act I always have. I'm pretty good at knowing what I want to do and what I will do in a situation. Pretty strong ability to just fucking act.

Right. To do what you do, what you got to do, do what I got to do to do what I want to do. Like, I'm good at being like, you know what? I'm going to do what I'm going to do. And I have never I truly don't think I've ever been so fully on the fence about something in my entire life. And it was destroying me um but joel was again like fucking partner the extraordinaire and was like look let's take it day by day this is an adventure we're gonna give her everything she needs to the best of our ability and we're just gonna going to see what happens. And we're just going to like do that. And we're

going to enjoy our time with her. And like, we're just going to see what happens. She's fine. The cats are fine. The cats are being great. Everyone was being, we weren't letting her inside. The weather was nice. I really did a lot of research about like, is it deeply unethical to like put your dog in a crate outside in an enclosed patio? Creatures couldn't get to her. It was a lovely crate with blankets people blankets over the top she was fine i but we were like we can't bring her inside with these cats we don't know if she's vaccinated all sorts of stuff yeah but we were like letting them interact across the screen they're being great her body language was great she was like totally deferring to the cats they weren't even hissing they were just

sort of staring her down but everybody was curious it. It was, it was great. Sunday comes, we have an incredible day with her. We take her to dinner. Um, she makes, makes some dog friends, um, who again, we were like very honest when people would walk by at dogs, like we're, she's new. We don't know how she is like, you know, proceed with caution and met a lovely dog named Doc who was on her tour. Like, well, Doc's great with other dogs. Like, let's just see if they like each other. And Doc was an angel and they had a great time. It was her first friend.

Oh. Sunday night, we're like, okay, we're going to keep her. Like, it's going to be really hard. We have four cats. We, um, a dog is a huge responsibility. It's going to be a total change in our lives.

But I don't need to go into all the reasons why we felt capable and ready to do that and understood like what that would mean. Um, but we were like, you know what? We're going to try. I mean, obviously if the cats totally lose their minds, like we'll have to rehome her. But like the, the goal is we're keeping this dog. We're in love with her. She's perfect.

We never would have chosen to get a dog, but here she is and she's incredible and we love her and it's done. to get a dog, but here she is and she's incredible and we love her and it's done. Monday morning, I go to work and they found her owners. Somebody had posted that their, you know, family dog got away. It was 100% her. There was zero doubt. I truly felt like I was going to pass out. Like it was such a, I was, it was so crazy. I'm also at work and I'm like having the hardest time,

not just like completely sobbing. It was just a complete daze. It was fucking awful. Um, I reach out to them and they're like, yep. Oh my God, you found our dog.

That's great. When can we come get her? And I, they were going to come by that night. Cause I was like, I can't, they can't pick her up. Like while i'm at work i i can't not um yeah you have to spend time with her so monday is a complete blur i come home monday night sit with her for an hour and sob sob and um they show up and they're lovely and they hug her and they are so happy to have her and they ask us like oh my god can we like give you guys anything and i like gave them all the

toys and treats and stuff that we had gotten her just because i was like well i can't fucking look at this um and they take her home and it it was so fucking brutal it's like i can't believe after just four days with her how devastating it was yeah but for me and joel both we were just like I mean we were so heartbroken heartbroken you fell in love so hard so fast and it's it's like heartbreak is such an intense feeling it feels like a death and it feels like a loss and it feels like personal yeah and like the way she came into our lives it just felt i was like this she's just like meant to be our dog it just felt like it just we connect with her so strongly and quickly and deeply and and i've come i did you know i had therapy because i love therapy you guys gotta go to therapy therapy this week and i was like i just don't know how to move

on like i just i don't know how to let it go I keep like looking every day I come into work and I'm like she's gonna be in the parking lot again or like they're gonna call me and be like just kidding take her back and I like couldn't let it go I just couldn't let it go she was like well I was like I keep wanting to like text and be like is she for sale and I was like but I obviously can't do that and she was like I mean send him a text like check in on her she's she did say she's like wait a week see if you're still grieving i did not wait a week because i can't um but you know if if they love her and she's their family dog like absolutely they're gonna

say no right if they don't you don't know how long she's had them if they don't they'll take money like you don't know like you just don't know right and so I did I texted them and I was like you know we love her so much we she's so special I I I know this is completely insane I I really hope this is not like I do not mean to offend or upset I just like because we love her so much I have to ask like any chance she's for sale and got just the nicest message back of like, I, the question couldn't offend us less. Like if anything, I'm so happy to hear that she was so loved and that like, we're so grateful to you for watching her. Like she is special. She's a member of our family. We love her, but like, thank you so much for everything that you've given us by

we love her, but like, thank you so much for everything that you've given us by taking such good care of her. And like, it was exactly the closure I needed. It's very sad that we don't get her, but she's very loved. Um, I now feel like we were meant to have her just for that time. It was a really special few days. It was incredible for me and Joel in just like our home and our lives and our partnership and like showed us what we're capable of. And we got to experience a perfect dog and a lot more love and we'll all be okay. And this was a really long story to tell at the beginning of the podcast, but I also haven't had a chance to really talk to you about it because i haven't been able to talk about it until recently so i mean there's a reason why they say it's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all and it's cheesy or whatever but it's true

because it's like you wouldn't trade the time that you had with her for like wiping that from your memory because it's just like what a beautiful connection you shared and and that it'll yeah it is really special and i'm i'm glad you got to have that i'm sorry it was such an emotionally turbulent week yeah but goldie forever we will always treasure. Yeah. It was a beautiful crying a little bit. It was a beautiful time and I feel very, I do feel very grateful. Um, and you know, a dog is a lot. Yeah. And, you know, one day we'll get a dog and it'll be one that

can't be taken from us. And until then, we'll enjoy the time we had with her. Oh my God, you guys, it was a crazy. Oh,

it's been so, it's just such a crazy fucking thing that I never We also just kept saying like man you just never Fucking know what's gonna happen You just never fucking I never would have thought like that would be

Anything that would have been Our last week like what the fuck Yeah it came out of nowhere Crazy Crazy shit I'm gonna have to put like we're gonna have to put like time stamps in the episode of like hey at the top there's a 20 minute story about a dog that like 98 of you don't care about um but for the two percent i was gonna say there's gonna be some people that it really

resonates with that have gone through like similar experiences i And ultimately, like, she otherwise probably would have gone to a shelter for those couple days. Maybe she never would have gotten back to her owners. Like it, it was really, really hard. But I'm glad we were able to do that for her and for those people. And I think about how hard it was for us to say goodbye to her. But if they had never gotten her back, they would never know that she was like okay and safe and healthy and we do get to know that so um it's a good thing but damn damn what a week what a fucking week and then we had a daughter and my god just a pretty eventful pretty eventful week i think it's the biggest week of all time I think you're right Okay

Well that's what's up with me But I'm ready to hear about something freaky spooky Alright let's get into The 2000s Um Just a quick little Uh Summary I guess of how I

Think of horror in the early two thousands is like we mentioned last week, or maybe it was on the bonus episode, but there was, uh, you know, the rise of torture porn was the early two thousands. We've got hostile, your saws and the new French extremity, which are the French films that are kind of in the torture porn realm, like Irreversible, High Tension, Martyrs. Then there was also a lot of kind of nasty remakes of 70s horror films, like The House of Wax, Texas Ch chainsaw massacre the rob zombie halloween reboot and that sort of thing uh there was also a surge in found footage horror because of the success of

of the blair witch project in 99 so paranormalivity was in the 2000s, Wreck. And wow, all of that. And then there was also a lot of remakes of Japanese horror after the success of The Ring. Then there was The Grudge. And then, you know, like all decades, there's all kinds of horror. So some other great movies.

My favorite horror movie the descent is in this era um your favorite funny games and drag me to hell another great one wow so a lot going on in the early 2000s. A lot going on. Yeah. Also, I feel like probably a big decade in our lives, just like we're children of the 90s, but the early 2000s are like middle school, high school, starting college. Like that, you know, that's a big decade in terms of our development. Yes, yes, yes, it is.

our development yes yes yes it is um and we put a vote out to our patrons and they chose the movie that we will be covering this week which is the others which came out in 2001 oh right at the very beginning the very beginning it was written and and directed by Alejandro Amenobar. And I think he also composed the music, which is very crazy. What a talent. Very talented man. Starring Nicole Kidman, Christopher Eccleston, Fanula Flanagan, Alakina Mann, and James Bentley. Produced by Tom Cruise.

So they were still married. Their last collaboration before their divorce. Oh, wow. How important. I'm thrilled to know this. Their divorce was finalized the week this movie was released. Oh, so it's the movie that broke them. And unfortunately, also produced by harvey weinstein that is that's a bummer yeah we're not gonna we're not gonna think about that also

listeners if you have not seen the image of nicole kidman post courthouse divorcing Tom Cruise highly recommend Googling Nicole Kidman Tom Cruise divorce Papers or something it's a very Funny image she was Thrilled to be Free of that marriage As most people in divorces are You get divorced for a reason

And I do fully Support I don't care who it's to being thrilled after a divorce is every divorced woman's right oh and uh something interesting about this movie is that it is not streaming anywhere i bought it on dvd and i bought a dvd player just for this episode oh the dedication because i didn't look that up before i put the poll up and it won and someone was like by the way it's not available what the hell shit um do you think that's like nicole and tom's doing well as far as i can tell i think it is being re-released on october 24th which will be before this episode comes out so

it's possible nice when this episode comes out it will be available again but on the criterion channel it's getting a criterion release oh shit yeah so it's kind of an annoying streamer because i think it's expensive so i'm sorry this is not our most accessible episode but the patrons spoke and we gotta we gotta do it it was overwhelming it was an overwhelming win and i i have wanted to do this movie for a very long time I know basically nothing about it Except that it's a Nicole Kidman spooky Haunty horror and like I feel like since the beginning of this podcast

I've been like I think I want to watch the I think I want us to do the others like I don't know why There was a time where you thought you wanted to watch it When you were doing a recap and I said I think it's too scary I remember being pretty scared of this movie i think i saw it in theaters which i would have been um 11 or 12 and so yeah

that's a i was really scared yeah well that makes sense but i think my ability to handle horror is probably close to you at 11 or 12 if if not worse. So I trust that. I trust that. And I'll just do a little teaser. We haven't picked a movie yet, but for our second bonus episode on our Patreon for the month of October, Sammy and I will be watching a scary movie together and doing a watch along episode. Yep.

We're going do something something 2010 2010zy stay tuned I'm scared I think we should try to do something a little scary I know I know cause it's Halloween baby it is Halloween we gotta get a little spooked that does mean if as I watch

along people are gonna hear me just really being screaming real stressed might be an unpleasant listen to be completely honest People are going to hear me just really being screaming. Real stressed. Might be an unpleasant listen, to be completely honest, but we will see. We will see. First, we're going to talk about the freaking others, and I can't wait.

I will tell you that it has an 84% on Rotten Tomatoes, 74% on Metacritic, and 7.6 on IMDb. Pretty even across the board there. Okay. Hey, Tom doesn't miss. The budget was $17 million, made $209.9 million. Tom doesn't miss. He doesn't miss. Some trivia. uh some trivia it was released a few months before vanilla sky which was a remake of this director alejandro amenabars open your eyes which is just an interesting little because tom cruise stars in

that yeah uh nicole kidman originally did not want to be in this movie because she was just coming off of Moulin Rouge. Oh, shit. And didn't want to do something so heavy again. Didn't want to go to these dark places. But I guess eventually changed her mind. I guess. It would appear. She changed her mind.

Someone changed it for her. Thank God she did because she's incredible. But some casting what ifs were Emily Watson or Jodie Foster. Interesting. Yeah. Emily Watson, I can see for sure. Jodie Foster, I guess just because she's not British. I just can't imagine. I mean, I know Nicole Kidman is also not British, but I feel like I've never seen Jodie Foster do a British accent and I would not believe it for one second if she tried to do it you know what I mean yeah like I can hear Jodie yeah like I can definitely hear her accent so clearly in my head yeah at all times so there's I just wouldn't buy it this is so good thing she's not in it uh and then this

is just kind of on brand for us to know this information is that to get the kids worked up alejandro amenabar would play scary music when they weren't expecting it he got him oh you really got him scary music uh-oh oh and that's all the trivia i got so should we take a peek at this trailer oh my god yes i bet i've seen it probably at some point in my life there's one thing at the end of the trailer that's very memorable that i had forgotten about until I saw it again. And maybe it'll jog your memory when you see it. Oh, boy.

Okay, let's do it. Sometimes the world of the dead gets mixed up with the world of the living. As you can see, the housework has been rather neglected since the servants disappeared almost a week ago Do you mean they just vanished? Into thin air How do you do children? I'm your new nanny Are you going to leave us too? Should I leave you? The others said they wouldn't but they did and then it happened

Why have you opened the curtains? It was Victor. You told your brother that there was someone else in the room. There was. That'll do, Anne. I've seen them too. Have? Sooner or later, she'll see them.

Then everything will be different. Where is my daughter? Are you mad? I am your daughter. I am your daughter. Ew. daughter are you mad i am your daughter eww reeky are you mad i am your daughter oh good accents good accents in this one that's exciting yep there's irish accent as well, you heard? Oh, yeah. Ooh. What a spooky, gross house. I know, right? All the fog.

That does look cozy, though. It's so big. Yeah, the fog is nice, I guess. But the house is so big that I was thinking this as I was watching it. You have to go through rooms to get to another room, which is like what happens in big houses, I guess. But I'm just, for some reason I, because you know, my house, there's a hallway and each room is its own door. I don't have to go through anything to get to another room. You do have actually a room that you have to go through.

Yeah. But you know what I mean? They're like going through the dining hall to get to the kitchen to get to if they're all all the rooms are connected and i'm like oh that's a really big house if all the rooms are connected yeah you know i've never really thought about it that way but in a big house rooms are connected to other rooms yeah i don't know why it was like kind of a weird realization for me it's not just like whoa single rooms off a single hallway yeah it's rooms are connected to other rooms that i mean you can go through your living room through your kitchen to the hallway that's true so that's yeah there's there's a there's small scale of it happening in most places i bet but not to this degree yeah very interesting makes you want to go into a really big house just to be like oh yeah i'm glad that you're having this same reaction because i was like yeah it felt like something i had not realized before and i don't know felt

important i don't know why i think it's important it feels important i agree wow um all right should we talk about this movie yes we should in the past few years i have hit a point where I only want to be wearing clothes that are comfortable. It happened. It happened to me. But you know what? I still also want to look cute. And these are two desires that are often extremely opposing. And I don't want to have to sacrifice. I want both. I want comfort. And I want to feel cute and confident.

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And she wakes up screaming in this large manor. It's very big. And there's big willow trees. It looks like a whomping willow outside it's foggy there's ivy growing up the face of the manor that's the that's the vibe uh she's wrapped in her robe and there's a knock at the door. She goes downstairs and answers it. And there are three people at the door and they say that they're responding to an ad. And she says, oh, of course, of course, come in. This is Mrs. Mills, who's an older woman, Mr. Tuttle, an older man, and Lydia, who is possibly their daughter. We're not sure.

She's younger and she is also mute and they have basically come to see if they she needs help with housework mrs tuttle can or excuse me mrs mills has been a nanny and done housework and mr tuttle can tend to the gardens, the grounds. And Grace is nodding and saying, yes, yes, thank you. I've been so overwhelmed since the last people just left. They disappeared in the night, didn't even tell me they were leaving. She's been very overwhelmed since then. It's also just at the end of the war, world war two. And so that's, um,

it seems like they, at some point had evacuated this house when there was German, uh, the Germans were invading. And so they've like recently returned to it. And, um, so she's trying to get things back in order after not having been there for a while.

And so she's giving the three of them a tour of the house. And she's explaining that it's very important to lock the door that you came into a room through before opening another door in that room. This is where I was really thinking about the room door situation. Like this wouldn't be an issue at my house. Not at all. And we don't know why it's an issue here yet, but she's stressing that this is very important. Lock the door behind you when you're in a room.

Mrs. Mills at some point inquires about Grace's husband and she explains that he was, he's left for war a year and a half ago and has not returned and they never found a body or anything, but it's not, not looking great. Yeah. Cause the war is, is over. Uh, there is a room with a piano in it. She says this piano, it wasn't here before. I don't know who brought this in. I guess somebody had owned it previously at some point as well. So I don't know, but she now starts telling them to start closing all of the curtains. And so they, they do, they're all closing the curtains and she's like, I'm going to go wake up the children. And she lights lamps. She says, Oh, also there's no electricity in the house. They got used to not having it because

during the war it was always out. And and so they just use little oil lamps now. And so nice, creepy, dark vibe, lamp lit as she's walking through this large house. She wakes up the two kids and introduces them to the three new employees of the house. And the children's names are ann and nicholas ann is an older sister nicholas is young but they're both young they're probably eight and six okay yeah maybe hard to say ann is definitely wearing a nasty nightgown, though. That is certain that that is a fact. That's a fact. And this is where we find out. Grace informs Mrs. Mills that the children are photosensitive. when it's daylight because they will get blisters and hives and like allergic reactions to light that can eventually kill them if they're exposed to light for too long is that for real and i yeah

i just wrote down this disease is a it's an actual disease known as xeroderma pigmentosum which is yeah basically an extreme sensitivity to sunlight. And it's very rare. Roughly a thousand people in the world have it. Wow. That's very rare. Very rare. So now all of them go down to the kitchen. I think the groundskeeper goes out to tend to the garden. And Mrs. Mills is making ann and nicholas breakfast and ann asks are you going to leave us

too so they've they're you know clearly feeling abandoned by their previous nanny and mrs mills assures them, I'm going to stay. And she says, that's what that's what they said, too. And then the incident happened. And Nicholas gives her this look like, don't talk about that. Nothing happened. And Mrs. Mills pushes her a little bit for more information is like what are you talking about and says mummy went mad and we're kind of like what what's this all about now but just at that moment grace walks in and she's looking a little angry and she has a letter in her hand and she says to Mrs. Mills,

uh, I just went out to the post box and saw that this letter didn't get picked up. And this was the ad that I was going to place in the paper. So there is no ad in the paper. So can you explain to me how you came to be here? And Mrs. Mills explains that they actually used to live in this exact house what they used to work for the previous owners and so they basically they were like so we just like know this house very well and we were going to offer our services just because it's already a house that we've worked at. And we like this house. It's kind of a weird explanation. But Grace seems...

Well, especially because didn't they say, we saw your ad in the paper? Yes. Because it's also like, lucky guess, I suppose. Yeah. They might have said like, we're here for the... And she might have interrupted them. we're here for the, and she might've interrupted them, but it did seem like that was. They didn't show up saying, Hey, do you need help?

We know this house. Yes. But Grace is like overwhelmed with housework. This place is huge. And she, she does really need help. And so she finding out that they have already, they know this place really well and know everything to do she's like okay great okay uh and she warns mrs mills i don't like fantasies my children can say

strange things i think referring to what she has just overheard Anne saying in the kitchen. And she says, you know, don't indulge them. Children will be children, but don't indulge them. And then we see Grace teaching Anne and Nicholas from the Bible. teaching Anne and Nicholas from the Bible. And we see that there's a very strict biblical lessons happening in this household. And Anne and Nicholas are a little questioning of it. There's a, uh, something in the text that says, that's like a young girl that was asked if she believed in Jesus. And she said, yes, they basically said, if you, if you say you believe in Jesus, we're going to cut your head

off. I can't, I mean, it's, I don't remember how they phrased it, but she admitted to believing in Jesus and it caused her death. And, and said, well, I would have just lied and so that I could live. And Grace is horrified by this and says, and then you would be in children's limbo and you can't deny your God. And I want you to imagine being in basically hell for all of eternity, like close your eyes right now and imagine being in hell for all eternity. And they're both like really freaked out. And she's like's like yeah so you wouldn't want to deny god or jesus would you and they're like no no no i guess we wouldn't so very solid logic there i suppose yeah and i can't remember where the first bringing up of ghosts is, but Anne at some point says in here, there's like some mentions of ghosts in the house and being scared because it's always dark and creepy in there. And she says, well, what if I see a ghost?

And Grace says, then you say hello and keep on studying. Grace says, then you say hello and keep on studying. So she separates them into two different rooms because they've irritated her now. She's frustrated with them questioning her. And so she's like, all right, you're going to both read your Bibles in different rooms. And Nicholas is getting scared and she has him hold on to his rosary and basically says, anytime you're feeling scared, you hold on to this. god is with you and there's no reason to be afraid at this point i'm thinking why aren't we making these kids nocturnal just have them be awake at nighttime interesting i suppose because then everybody has to be nocturnal but i mean they're all kind of on the

same schedule anyways doesn't seem like they do much else that's true you make a great point sammy But I mean They're all kind of On the same Schedule anyways Doesn't seem like They do much else That's true You make a great point Sammy But That's not

That's not what they do So Grace Is In the other room Hard to run errands That way I guess so yeah

Maybe one Like some of the Staff Could be Diurnal Daywalkers Daywalkers Maybe one like some of the staff could be day walkers. Just seems like there could be a better way. Sure. Grace hears crying coming from one of the rooms, runs to check on Nicholas, says, why are you crying? Is everything OK?

He's not crying. He's fine. Says, what are you crying? Is everything okay? He's not crying. He's fine. Says, what are you talking about? I'm totally fine. She says, okay. Locks him back in there. And still hears the crying. Now runs to Anne.

Anne's not crying either. She's like, why? Who's crying? I heard crying. And Anne says, it was Victor. Creepy ghost name. And Grace, you know, obviously says who's Victor. And she says, little boy, I see him, see him a lot. His him and his family, they live here, too. And he was crying because I'm in his room or something like that. And Grace gets

very angry at this. Stop making up stories. I don't like these fantasies. And she says, I'm not making it up. He was in here and he ran out and she's like, well, how could he run out when all the doors are locked? And then she turns and sees that one of the doors is open. And she immediately goes down to Mrs. Mills to scream at her, assuming that it was her that left the door unlocked. I told you how important it was to keep every door locked in this house. And Mrs. Mills says, I wasn't up there. I I'm so sorry. I don't know what could have happened. She's like, I hope you're not suggesting it was me endangering the lives of my own children.

Because I guess the door locking is so like sunlight can't get in accidentally through other rooms. Got it. So we don't know who unlocked this door, but. Maybe Victor. Maybe it was Victor. Also, I feel like if you're Victor, you don't probably who unlocked this door but maybe victor maybe it was victor also i feel like if you're victor you don't probably need a door yeah true um so anna has kind of been taunting nicholas excuse me ann has been taunting nicholas a bit about ghost stories and he's a little scared of Victor. He hasn't seen Victor and he's like, are you are you telling the truth that you saw a little boy?

You think he's a ghost? And she's like, he's not a ghost. Ghosts wear sheets on their heads. He's a boy. He's Victor. And they sleep in the same bedroom. And that night. And they sleep in the same bedroom. And that night. Wait. Just for a moment. Why do ghosts look like that? With sheets?

Yeah, because it's like, well, it's not a sheet, right? Like it's just a white form. Where did it come from, I suppose? I don't Casper Has to predate Casper I have no idea Because it's like Ghosts are

We decided I feel like As a society That ghosts take the shape They're human form So then where does the other version come from And what would it be? Like a soul or something? Like a...

That's what they think the soul's shape is? Because ghosts don't wear sheets. Humans wear sheets to look like ghosts. Yes. Or I was thinking maybe it's... In some movies, they'll throw a sheet onto a spot and it will land on the form of a person. Why do ghosts look like that? Like origin of ghost sheet okay this says up until the 19th century the dead were almost always wrapped in burial shrouds rather than placed in coffins in poor families the recently

deceased were simply wrapped up in the sheet from their deathbed and secured inside by a tied knot at either end okay so it is a sheet yeah great case closed case closed look at us doing all this research my god i just realized i've never considered why ghosts look like that this is so not like us it's so not like this oh my. What is happening to us? We need Heinle back. She would never stand for this type of research. So that night, Anna, Ann and Nicholas are in bed and Nicholas jerks awake and sees that the curtains are all open. It's nighttime, so it's okay at this moment.

But he turns to Ann and says, why have you opened the curtains? Because presumably, you know, come morning, that will be a problem. And she says, it wasn't me. It was Victor. He's been doing it all night and I keep closing them and he keeps opening them. And Nicholas is saying, you know, stop, stop your lies. You're scaring me. And she's like, I'm not, I'm not lying, but she is kind of trying to freak him out.

She is being a little bit of an older sister is kind of trying to freak him out she is being a little bit of an older sister kind of like are you scared what are you scared of victor and nicholas is very scared and so she's like fine i'll i'll close them again gets up closes the curtains so it's completely dark we can't see what's happening and then we just hear loud running footsteps and they the curtains rip back open and and gets back into bed and she's seeming kind of scared like he's not he's not stopping i don't know why he won't do this and she's now talking to victor and says victor stop and i can't remember the dialogue in the scene, but there's another voice happening that she's having a conversation with that sounds very much like it could be her voice just doing like a baby, like, no, I'm not going to leave you alone

type of thing. Like it sounds just not dissimilar to her, her voice. And Nicholas is saying, stop making those voices. You're scaring me. She says, I'm not making voices. Can't you see it's Victor? It's Victor's here. And she says, Victor, why like go pinch his cheek. So he knows you're real. And we see just a closeup on Nicholas's face as a hand comes in and touches his cheek. He jumps out of bed, screaming, banging on the walls. Grace wakes up, hears this, is running upstairs because their doors are locked. They're not allowed out of their room, which seems this is a fire hazard. Absolutely a fire hazard. So Grace has to run up and unlock the door and is now like getting extra annoyed at Anne for her fantasies her stories

scaring Nicholas uh but the next day Anne is not backing down not not admitting to lying she's saying no it's true there was there was a boy there Victor's real um Grace is downstairs doing her embroidery, talking to Mrs. Mills. They're saying how the fog has never lasted this long before. It's like, she's like, I'm feeling more and more like cut off from the world. This is like depressing. Then as they're sitting there, Grace complains to Mrs. Mills that Lydia, the younger girl that's helping them, has been running back and forth upstairs. She's being way too loud. Can you go tell her to quiet down? Mrs. Mills gives her kind of a strange look and is like, OK, sure, and goes outside.

sure and goes outside and we hear the running around again and grace is getting very irritated and she just like i'm gonna go talk to her myself but then gets up and sees mrs mills scolding lydia outside of the house on the on the lawn and so definitely not running around upstairs so grace goes upstairs herself to check out the source of the sound and and points her to she says oh they're in that room and so grace goes in this room where it's all this furniture covered in sheets a very spooky type of room especially now that we know that ghosts wear sheets exactly but i feel like we've talked about this before too like having to put sheets over your stuff imagine like having a room that's like oh we just don't want we don't use this room enough and we don't want it to get dusty so we'll just put sheets over it like it's just so such a foreign concept truly so she's looking around in there and she's pretty freaked out

there are a couple shapes that look human size she's pulling sheets off it's actually a hat rack there's one that's like a statue of Jesus. And so they're all fake outs, but they just look scary. And then now she's pulling sheets off. The door closes behind her. She storms out and is again talking to Anne, going like, what's going on here? What like this is there? So is there someone in here or not? And she says, yes. And she shows her a little drawing that she's done. And it's a little

creepy child drawing. Mark your bingos. There's a father, a mother, Victor, the little boy. And there's an old woman who has this kind of curly big hair and just white eyes no pupils or irises and there's numbers drawn next to them she says what are these numbers and ann says that's how many times i've seen each of them and the parents it's two and two and victor is five and the old woman is 14. oh not what you want no and she says i see the old woman the most victor says she's a witch her breath smells really bad so grace is freaking out goes, gets a shotgun out of a locked cabinet is like someone's in here. We need to open all the curtains in the house. So there's no dark corners for anyone to hide in. I think she closes the kids into a room and is instructing, you know, Mrs. Mills, Mr. Tuttle, Lydia, like we're searching this whole house top to bottom and as they're opening curtains there's a scene where grace is in this room and you just see this like man's face gets slightly illuminated as she's opening the curtain in the background and it's so creepy but then as she opens the

curtains all the way we see it's painting and but it's a good good scare and uh so we've opened the whole house we've searched it there's just nobody seems to be here grace doesn't know what to do and is talking to mrs mills now about ghosts and saying, you know, they're there. Maybe they're ghosts or I read about ghosts in the books, in a book. And Mrs. Mills says, don't believe everything you read in books. And says, that's what our mom says, but we have to believe everything that's written in the Bible, even though some of it's so dumb, like there's no way God made the earth in seven days. Like that's crazy. And Mrs. Mills kind of smiles at this she's got a she's got a good point uh and as grace is going through different rooms in the house she finds

this creepy photo book and she's kind of entertaining the idea of ghosts at this point as well, just because she's heard things and seen things. And so she's she's finding these old photos of that. I presume the last owners of the house have left there and she's comparing them with the drawing that Ann did. She's trying to see like, is there any family that matches this? And she doesn't, there's doesn't seem to, but she finds a photo book where it looks like photos of everyone, of all these different people sleeping. And it creeps her out. So she goes to show it to mrs mills she says look what i found and she's like isn't this like sick all these people sleeping and mrs mills says oh they're

not sleeping ma'am they're dead and apparently this is a real thing well mrs mills says that people believe that if you take a photo of someone after they die their soul can live on in the photo which i don't that's kind of creepy but apparently this is something that would happen a lot because photos were so expensive that in the late 1800s uh you would only get a photo when you die because they would be, it would be your last chance to get a photo of, of someone. And so that would be the only photo a lot of people had of their dead relatives. Grace is freaked out. It says, get, get the book out of the house. I don't want this in here. Miss Mel says, okay.

A book of souls. Uh oh. Yeah. Grace that night is, I think she's like still sitting with her shotgun at the fire and talking to Mrs. Mills and asking her, you know, about, uh, Lydia, was she born mute? Mrs. Mills says no. And she says like, when did you live here and what happened? Why did you leave? Why did you come back? And she says, oh, we left on account of the tuberculosis. They evacuated the whole area. And so we had to leave for a while and then the war. And so we've just like, eventually come back, I guess. Grace tucks in Anna and Nicholas into bed. And they're asking, when is daddy coming home? And Grace goes to her room and cries and is, like, holding a jacket of clearly her husband's

and just being like, Charles, come home. It's, like, clear she's really, really struggling. When she hears the piano playing downstairs... Oh, no. She goes down and unlocks the door, opens it, sees the piano open slams the like cover to the piano keys closed locks that and as she does that the the door to the room closes behind her and she opens it again and is like inspecting it as she's moving it back and forth looking at it closely trying

to hear like the hinges or if there's anything that's making it move on its own and as she's looking really stumped it slams in her face knocks her backwards clearly by a force of someone or something. She's screaming. She tries to open it again. It's locked now. And she doesn't have her, that key for that door, I guess. I don't remember exactly, but Mrs. Mills has to come down and they open the door. And when they open it, the piano is open again. Grace is now saying something in this house is not at rest.

Something diabolical is here. She says, I know this sounds, this sounds so crazy. And I know I sound crazy. And Mrs. Mills says, I actually, I believe in that stuff. I believe in that stuff. I believe in ghosts and the, and sometimes I think the world of the dead can get mixed up with the world of the living. And, um, I don't think it's crazy. And grace is very stubbornly like, that's not,

that's not what it says in the Bible. Like we only meet, uh, our, our lost ones when we die ourselves. And so she's just in denial, but still kind of, there's things she can't deny. And she decides she wants to get the priest, go to the church nearby to get the priest to come and bless the house. Mrs. Mills urges her to wait until the fog clears. It's really, um, uh, you know, it's thick, thick fog. And she's like, no, I've waited long enough. We need him to come here. And so she goes out and as she's going out, she's passes, uh, Mr. Tuttle and asks him to look for gravestones on the property and says, I want to see if there's any if the last family that was here, if they're if they died here and if they were buried here. So I think I think I remember someone mentioning there were gravestones here when we bought the place.

So just like search for those. They might be buried or like that might have overgrowth on top of them and he agrees he's like okay sure so she heads off to find a priest and mrs mills comes up alongside mr tuttle as they're watching her go and kind of have a little sinister vibe about them now they're watching her and mrs mills says she thinks the house is haunted now and mr tuttle's like do you think it's a good idea letting her go out there and she says you know the fog won't let her get far don't worry she's like not gonna make it far she says know, all in good time, something, this will all happen all in good time. And she's like, oh, speaking of, and she points and we see a Mr. Tuttle had been scooping leaves. And we see a little peak of a headstone coming out of his big pile of leaves that he had made.

And they both go, oh, and he rushes and recovers it up with leaves, hiding the headstones. Huh. Okay. What have we here? So they're up to something. They're up to something. So now we see Grace walking through the,

these like trees, but it's very foggy. It's just getting thicker and thicker till it's almost completely white. Like you can't see your hand in front of your face type of thing. And so she stops cause she can't tell where she's going. And we just hear footsteps crunching in the leaves coming towards her as a shape kind of emerges. We see a little silhouette and seems to be a man. And when he gets closer, she recognizes him. And it is her husband, Charles. What? In his war uniform, looking very shell shocked.

And she also looks shocked, runs to him, is holding him going, oh, my God, I prayed for this. I prayed for this. I prayed for this for you to come back to me. He's looking like completely he has PTSD. He's not really responding to her in a in a normal way. He's like picturing annihilation right now. Yes, exactly. And they returned back to the house and walk in and Mrs. Mills looks really shocked to see him and kind of displeased she doesn't look like happy that he's home and she's like this is my husband charles he's back by the way hot dad nice um he goes upstairs

to see the kids and then he kind of come seems to come back to himself a bit with the kids and hugs them and tells them how much he's missed them. But then after he spends some time with them, he goes back, he just lays in bed all day and he's refusing to eat. And he's just really not responsive for the most part. The kids are very excited to have their dad back. And Grace is very excited excited and ann says something like now it's like we're back to being a family and like us and the others or the intruders i think they're calling them also and grace goes back to being like what there's no intruders there's nothing it's that that's nothing and so she's now decided to pretend that none of that stuff has happened and now we can go back to being a family and, uh,

and has a reaction to this conversation where she starts just breathing really quickly and heavily, like it's not quite like a panic attack, but it's almost like a defiant breathing. It's hard to, it's hard to pin down exactly what's happening, but it's, she's unsettled. She's hard to pin down exactly what's happening, but it's, she's unsettled. She's unsettled. And Grace is telling her, you know, stop breathing like that.

And eventually Anne gets up and leaves the, leaves the room, goes to her room or something. And she, and Mrs. Mills comes in to comfort her. She's crying. And Anne is just saying like, she doesn't, she doesn't believe me and she's going to pretend none of it happened, but they're like still here. I still see them. Mrs. Mills says, I see them, too. And Anne says, why didn't why don't you tell my mom like you? She'll believe you. She's not going to believe me.

And Mrs. Mills says something cryptic like again all in good time she'll see them eventually there's gonna be some big changes around here and ann looks like comforted by this even though it seems not not the right reaction to have uh and then we see mrs mills mr tuttle and lydia in their like servants quarters part of the house eating together and they're all looking very stern and mrs mills is saying how the the mother is going to be a problem for them. She's going to cause us problems. And Mr. Tuttle says, what about the dad? What about Charles? And Mrs. Mills says, I don't think he even knows where he is. It's the mom that's going to be the problem.

The children will be easy. Mom's going to be a problem. Well, I can't wait to find out what the heck's going on here. So the next day we are up in one of the rooms and Grace has dressed Anne in her communion dress and she's dancing around, feeling all pretty, looking like a ghost. She's got like a big white veil over her face

and Grace leaves her alone in the room while she goes to speak to charles then eventually comes back to the room charles is again not really responding to her so she comes back to the room and says okay time to take the dress off opens the door and we see Anne playing with a little marionette puppet until Grace notices that her hand is an old lady hand. And she looks horrified as she turns slowly to see Anne's face. And it is the old woman from the drawing with the milky white eyes under the veil sounding like and like humming a little tune sounds like a little girl and grace says what have you done with my daughter? And she says, in Anne's voice, coming out of an old lady's lips,

Are you mad? I am your daughter. And then Grace lunges at her, starts strangling her and like attacking her. And of course, in this moment moment it comes back to be ann and now completely terrified saying like asking what are you doing she's crying and like yelling like mommy's attacking me and grace looks horrified at what she's done but very confused by what the hell just happened. She's downstairs with Mrs. Mills, really shaken by the incident. And we see Mrs. Mills trying to give her some pills.

She says that they're the pills she always takes for her migraines. But we see Grace looking suspicious and dumps them down the drain, doesn't take them. We go back upstairs and Anne is walking out of her parents' room. So Charles was in there. So she was just talking to Charles and Grace goes in and says, and leaves and like looks at her like she's still very mad at her and afraid of her and of Grace. And so now Grace and Charles are in the room together. And Charles says, you know, and told me what happened. And Grace says, I like I can't explain it. It was I don't know what happened. She was in the dress and it looked like it wasn't her. And he's like, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about that day. And Grace looks like she's been caught and she like sits down looking really ashamed. And she says, you know, they're, I like, I'm, I don't know what came over me. And I, please forgive me.

Like they know that I love them and I would never do anything to hurt them. But we're getting the impression that she did something bad to them at some point and charles gets up now and says he's gotta leave it's going back back to the war she says what are you talking about the war is over and he's looking kind of blank behind the eyes again. And, uh, she, they have this fight. Well, it's mostly grace saying everything that she has thought since he's been gone. Like, what have you, what were you trying to prove by leaving us? Your place was here with your family. And I feel like you just actually wanted to leave me and like you don't love me and we're not enough for you and charles softens to this and climbs in bed with her and kisses her

and they have a nice moment i maybe have sex this is we're getting the implication of that but it like cuts to the next morning she wakes up and he's gone uh she goes out to the just like on the ground see if she can see him anywhere he's nowhere to be found and then she hears the kids screaming and screaming she runs back to the house and all the curtains have been removed from the whole house every single room she takes off her robe really great velvet robe drapes it over the children to protect them from the light and they're panicking Screaming for Now here's where you become nocturnal Though I guess you still need curtains Yeah She's calling out for Mrs. Mills

What's happening And Mrs. Mills and Mr. Tuttle Look very not Stressed by this situation And They're kind of playing dumb mr tuttle's being like huh like who would who would want to do that and grace okay i'm suspicious grace is at like a level 10 and they're at a level zero just like huh and she's saying so what's like trying to kill my

children obviously there's someone who's trying to kill my children and mrs mills says have you tried having them in the sunlight lately like maybe it won't do anything now and mr tuttle says something like he had a relative once who had this disease that only 1 000 people have it This is far too many people saying I'm, I don't know. Yeah, no, no. He said not this specific disease. He's saying that like someone had, uh, Parkinson's or something. And then one day woke up and was totally fine again. He's like, you know, it could happen that they're just totally fine now sure sure and she she is not trusting them anymore at this point their vibe is very suspicious she gets her shotgun back out she tells them to leave she says give me give me your keys back and they're really just monotonous and all this which is very a scary vibe like they're not getting worked up by anything and they're like okay we'll leave but like we're gonna have to

talk about this eventually or so i don't know they keep saying like cryptic weird things and so she gets them she gets them out of house. And we see as they're leaving the house, Mrs. Mills says to Mr. Tuttle, I'm reaching the end of my tether with this one. Like, what do you say? What do you say? It's time to uncover the gravestones. He says, yep, let's do it. it uh this this night ann decides she wants to go into the woods to look for daddy and so her and nicholas sneak out and are running through the night looking for daddy and grace is around the house looking for curtains she's like checking everywhere to see where they could be stashed. And as she's looking in the attic, which I think is where Mrs. Tuttle was sleeping, she finds an envelope that is under Mrs. Tuttle's pillow, and she pulls it out, right as Anne and Nicholas are seeing three gravestones in the yard, and being like, we've never seen those before,

so they're going to look at them. Anne is up ahead, and she sees the names of Tuttle mills and lydia and as as grace opens the envelope under mrs tuttle's mrs mills's pillow and sees the a photo of the three of them dead like the ones in the book of just like oh shit a photo of them dead what the heck and the three of them are now approaching anne and nicholas walking kind of slowly and creepy and anne is saying nicholas they're ghosts they're ghosts because he hasn't. He's a little further away. He hasn't seen the gravestones yet.

And he is also. She messes with him all the time. And so he's not believing her. And he's like, there's not ghosts. This is our nanny. And so he's not sure what to believe. And Anne is really freaking out. Being like, no, no, there goes the ghost.

And Grace, because she has seen this photo now, also is running down with the shotgun, sees that they're all out there and is screaming like children get inside. So Nicholas and Anne run inside as the three of them are just continuing like walking slowly good good like michael myers type hell yeah slow unbothered walk towards the front of the house grace has her shotgun and as they start walking up the steps to the house she shoots them shoots them shoots them nothing's happening and mrs mills says uh no point doing that ma'am like tuberculosis took us out a long time ago grace turns around runs into the house locks the door behind her the three of them come up to the door it's got a little glass window. They're looking through. She's yelling at them, get out of here, stay out of my house.

And Mrs. Mills says, we've been trying to make you understand, ma'am, the new situation, how the living and the dead need to be able to live together. And Grace is saying no no you like leave us in peace this is our house mrs mill says well the intruders are in there with you and she's thinking like no you're you're the intruders and she's like no they're still they're still in there and you're gonna uh you'll know soon enough that they're in there Oh my Get twist on twist I know Also Are they unable to get past

The locked door? It seems like it They're not like Interesting Evaporating So they can't be shot But they are Corporal

Corporeal Enough To not Be able to pass Their door Unless they're just Respecting her wishes Maybe they're being

very respectful and grace at this point is obviously terrified very confused not sure what is going on and we see ann and nicholas have hidden in a closet upstairs, also very scared. And then they hear some whispering outside of the closet, something about children. And then the closet doors open and it's the old woman with her milky eyes and they scream and Grace hears it and is still sees Mrs. Mills. And Mrs. Mills says, that'll be the intruders now. Like, and you've got to go upstairs and you've got to go talk to them. Grace runs upstairs to the room that Anne and Nicholas are in and opens the door to find four people around a table doing a seance.

four people around a table doing a seance. The old woman writing letters, you know, when they do the thing where they're like channeling spirits. Oh, yeah. And she's saying, why are you here? Why are you here? And how did your mother kill you? And twist on twist on twist. And we see Nicholas and Ann yelling at the woman as she's writing what they

say. And everyone at the table, except for the woman seem unaware of their presence. And yes, except for the woman seem unaware of their presence. And yes, we are figuring out that they are the ghosts. Oh my God. And yeah, that Grace killed her children.

And we hear something about pillow. And she says like, why are your souls not at rest if you're if you're dead and we see ann and nicholas yelling we're not dead we're not dead and she's yelling they they like don't know that they're dead they're not they feel like they're not dead and the mom of this family the the alive family that's at the table for this seance is Catelyn Stark from Game of Thrones. I thought that was fun. And she's very scared. Obviously, they've been on the other side of this haunting and going through a lot, probably themselves. Sure. So she says, they clearly don't want us here.

I don't want to, we can't do that. I can't do this anymore. We need to move out. The dad agrees. Okay. We'll, we'll leave in the morning there. Oh, there's a part where grace like shakes the table that they're at. And we see from their point of view that nobody else is there.

And it just looks like a ghost is throwing papers and, and, um, very angry. And, and she's saying like, get out of my house, get out of my house. And so this, these people are like, okay, like, let's get out of the house. I don't want to, I don't want to be here. We'll leave in the morning. And as they're getting up from the table the mom says i'll go check on victor so we know now victor is a real little boy and grace has eventually a moment of understanding what's going on and she sits with her kids. They're crying. She's holding them. And she says, I thought it was all a bad dream. Like when your father didn't come home and I was alone here. She's like, and I, and I put the pillows, like, I think she smothered them basically, like put the pillows

over your heads and you stopped moving. And then I shot myself with the shotgun and she's like, but then I woke up and I heard your laughing in the other room. And I thought like I was it was a dream and I was given a second chance and I thanked God that we were given a second chance. But we're learning that this is they have died and the kids are asking and asking questions like where are we i don't understand and grace for the first time admits i don't know i'm no wiser than you are i don't have the answers so did their dad die in the war too was he like a visiting yeah i think so wow and at this point mrs mills and mr tuttle and lydia come back in seeming much less sinister now and more sympathetic and they're saying you know can i mrs mill says can i make you a cup of tea there's you know the the intruders will be leaving in the morning,

but there will be more that come. Like we're going to have to learn to live with them. And we see the next day that the kids are not affected by the light anymore because they're already dead. So nothing can kill them now. And we see Victor and his family packing up the next morning, driving away. And he's looking up into the windows where Grace is standing with Anne and Nicholas. um, and,

and Nicholas. And then he gets in the car with his parents and they drive away out past the gate that has a for sale sign on it now. And that's the end of the movie. Wow. So many. I know. I'm glad you didn't know the twist. Cause it was a big one.

It's a good twist. I like that. It's just a twist. I like that a lot. It's just a little reverse haunted house from the POV of the ghosts. Cool. Very cool. Ooh, I really enjoyed that. I'm so glad I didn't know the twist.

Two twists. I know. Twist on a twist. They got us. They got us. It's not easy to pull off. What a fun time. Yeah, it's great.

It's a great one. And Nicole Kidman is just wonderful in it. What an actress. What an actress indeed. R.I.P. her and Tom's marriage. Yeah. After this. probably for the best probably for the best yep yeah yeah um but thank you patrons for choosing this movie again i am sorry that if you wanted to re-watch it i hope that that is a possibility by the time this episode comes out. I'm so impressed by your dedication, Sammy.

My God. I just feel like it had been time for me to buy a DVD player. But it does feel like such a relic of the past. Even like scrolling through a DVD menu felt so funny. I was just like, this is so funny. We just never do it. We sometimes do it we do have blu-rays but it it's really crazy yeah there's bonus features on there oh my god interviews and stuff i was i

was very thrown by whenever i paused it that it wouldn't have the thing at the bottom telling me exactly exactly how much time i have left oh you know in all streamers there's just the little i love to know that yeah but in a dvd it didn't it doesn't do that and i kept getting confused like why isn't it showing me i was like oh because the dvd but yes great choice patrons if you are not a patron and you would like to become a patron you can go to patreon.com slash tsdw podcast and like we said there'll be another fun bonus episode there this friday where emily and i watch something scary together scary wow and we love you guys and happy Halloween. If, if we don't talk to you before then. Oh my gosh,

that's true. Wow. We're not going to, we're not going to go there yet. Oh my God. Yeah. We're living in the present. Don't make us think about the present and the past,

not the future. Mm hmm. Um, wow. Wish me luck making my costume this week. She's going to do it. She's going to do it. She's going to do it. And then see how it all turned out at our live show.

I can't freaking wait. Love you guys. Love you, Emily. Love you, Sammy. Love Henley. Love Henley. Love her daughter. In her undisclosed location.

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