Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE POSSESSION (2012) with Lauren "Kittens" Abedini

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

One yard sale, two children "absolutely wrecked from the divorce", a single talking box, and thousands of moths, we're recapping THE POSSESSION with help from podcast host Lauren "Kittens" Abedini (She/Her/They)!! Join us for yet another exorcism of a small child!  TRAILER Recap begins @ 21:29 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those who are too scared to watch for themselves. I saw your eyes get so scared that you were doing it wrong. And we have to leave it in because it's too funny, but you're killing it. Keep going. I'm Henley and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. going. I'm Henley and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies. And so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we are missing our Emily this week. Oh my God. And I'm the hole is so deep. I'm a really a massive void. I'm really feeling it because every single time Emily's not here, I forget that

I have to do the opening and I fucking like can never remember it. And it makes me feel like I have zero brain cells left, which I don't think I do. So that's fair. It's a fair assessment. My brain cells are gone. Jenna and I used to joke that we just had one remaining brain cell and we'd picture our brain cell in our brain, like really struggling to answer like all of the phones. Like I just had this visual of one brain cell in a room of like phones ringing off the hook and being like, oh God, oh God, oh God. Really working overtime. Like sharing between the two of you.

We had one each, but sharing between us is also pretty funny. It would be really funny if you guys were sharing. That would be really cute. But maybe too much. Too much for a were sharing. That would be really cute. But maybe too much. Too much for a single friendship. Yeah. Yeah, true.

But I relate. I relate to having no brain cells. So don't worry about it, Henley. I think you're perfect. They're gone. They're so like out the window gone. Okay. Besides having no brain cells, Sammy, did anything scary happen to you this week? Well, I went to the dentist this week.

Terrifying. Which normally I actually like going to the dentist because I'm a little freak. You are a freak. And I love my dentist, but I am sad to report that this time everything really hurt i was really thankful i don't know there was so much blood what do you mean maybe it was a bad hygienist no he's the same guy i love the same guy yeah i think it was just i had gone longer than usual so it's been a minute. This time, or no, it wasn't longer than usual.

I don't know, but my teeth had been kind of hurting lately when I'm eating sugar and stuff. So I was anticipating a lot of cavities or something like that, but there wasn't. I think I just have very sensitive gums now or something was more sensitive than usual. And it was just, I had to get up like four times during it to rinse so much blood out of my mouth. It was like, Oh, your mouth's filled with blood again. Oh my God. Oh yeah. So that was pretty unpleasant. But then I, um, was, uh, my friend gave me a water flosser afterwards to, to help me with my oral hygiene so that maybe it wouldn't hurt so much next time and i don't have a plug by my sink where a water flosser would normally go so i tried to

plug it into the opposite side of the wall hold the big water flosser thing immediately dropped it water went everywhere and then it like turned on by itself and was spraying everywhere like a fire hose that was out of control and i just got so immediately failed soaking wet from the water flosser but it was really making me laugh and i um bought actually a different water flosser and great news i like like that one a lot. So everything is back on track. Because you can get the kind that are just like a single one, right? Like a one that you charge. Yeah. Yeah.

That's what I needed. Yes. And that's what I got. I have one of those. I've had it for several years. It's in my bathroom. It's charging. I have maybe used it one time ever. They're an interesting sensation. I also got an electric toothbrush. I was just inspired to or extra motivated to up my dental hygiene. And I've also noticed that with the electric toothbrush, when it turns off after the like two minute time timer, it really reminds me

of the feeling of when an escalator is broken and you have to use it as normal stairs. It's like all of a sudden it feels like this isn't right. Perfect analogy. And then trying to brush your teeth with it, not being an electric toothbrush feels like what something is really wrong. Um, but I'm, I'm enjoying the electric toothbrush and the water flosser. So, okay, great. this is inspiring me i to use the fucking like water pick that i have that i own um also i've been seriously thinking about getting invisalign i would recommend against it really have you had it i did i did smile direct club sorry for oh yeah you hate it you hate it direct club yeah i, Smile Direct Club. Yeah. I think it might have been user error.

I don't know if it's necessarily Smile Direct Club's fault, but you have to wear them all the time. I know. And like at least 22 hours a day, I think, is what you're supposed to do. And I wasn't doing that. And so, it was making my teeth like loose because they were moving, shifting back and forth because I wasn't wearing it enough. It was awful. It was truly my nightmare. You know that's my nightmare.

Yeah, it's a bad dream. It's a nightmare. It's an actual nightmare. Interesting. I'm still curious about doing Invisalign. I've kind of wanted to do it for a long time. I have a dentist appointment actually next week where I was thinking about talking to him about it because I also grind my teeth so bad. So I'm either going to have to get a night guard or Invisalign. And so part of me is like, maybe I'll just get Invisalign. But it's also so expensive and I don't know. I forgot you had a bad experience with Smile Direct Club.

Damn it. Damn it. That's like setting me back. Sorry. Okay. So the reason I only have one brain cell this week is because I'm so tired per usual. The scary thing that happened to me this week is that Saz got sick yet again. Like little kids just get sick all the time. Everyone knows that. But he's had a fever for the past few days and has just decided that like the only way he'll sleep is on me. And so also I'm five months pregnant now. And so like I'm lying on my line on my back already is like kind of uncomfortable. But that's the only way that like it kind of works is that I like lean on my back against pillows and then he sleeps on me with his face on the pillow.

And every time I move or try to like put him down on the bed, he just starts his like hysterically crying because he has like such a bad fever and he's so uncomfortable. And he like the only way he's comfortable is just like lying on me. And he like a two-year-old so he's also kind of like bigger now right right and and um i'll try to transfer him to tim and he'll just start like screaming and how much does a two-year-old weigh well it can range a big range and sas is way on the lower range because he's like a teeny tiny little little string bean. So he weighs like 25 pounds, I think. But tellers can weigh, I mean, two-year-olds can weigh more, definitely more than that. Anyway, so yeah. So last night I had a feeling it was going to be a bad night.

So I was like, I'm going to go to bed at 845. And then he woke up at like 1045. And then for the rest of the night was like crying and sleeping like on me. And then we made it to 6am. And I like looked at Tim and I was like, we made it till six. Like the sun was coming up. I was like, we made it to 6 a.m and i like looked at tim and i was like we made it till six like the sun was coming up i was like we did it and then i was like fuck i have the rest of the fucking day ahead of me god oh it sounds really exhausting i know i know because tim because tim also works all day on sundays and so it's just me and Silas is like so sick. We watch so much Encanto. Like I've seen Moana for like the hundred thousandth time anyway. So I'm just happy to be here. I'm happy to be doing this goddamn podcast with you. This is the only thing I want is to be

like solo independent by myself on the computer. No one talking to me, you're touching me Well, congrats, I guess Thanks That that's happening for you right now Thanks And shall we get into this week's movie? Yes, yes, please Do what we came here to do

This week we are going to be talking about The Possession Came out in 2012 Not to be confused with Possession that we covered recently. The set came out, I can't remember what year that one was. Very different films. Very different films. This movie was directed by Ole Bornedal, written by Juliet Snowden, styles white, based on an article by Leslie Gornstein,

starring Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Natasha Callis, Kira Sedgwick, and Madison Davenport. And it is streaming on Cinemax and available to rent. And we are very excited to be joined by a guest this week to discuss this film. The host of podcast, she,

her, they welcome kittens. Welcome. Hi. hi hi we're so happy to have you thank you for joining us i'm so excited to to talk about this with you guys oh my god i can't fucking wait um before we get into it how how was your week did anything scary happen to you this week um my girlfriend got a shutter subscription finally terrifying so much content too much too much there's a lot there's a lot on there yeah I I love horror but my like my limit is much lower than hers. Like she can handle horrific stuff. And I'm just like, I have to draw the line somewhere.

And I, it was nice before when we didn't have shutter because there's only so much that will be available on like other streaming sites. And here it's just fucking like everything and anything you can imagine. Yeah. Yeah. So, so that's been,

you know, she's trying to put stuff on and I'm like, absolutely not. We are not watching that before bed. You're out of your mind. Where do you draw the line? Do you feel like, do you like, do you like ghost stuff? Do you, where's, what's like the genre that you can't do? What's the genre you love? How do you feel? I love, I specifically really love religious horror. Like I love, I love a ghost, but I really love a like possession vibe and like somebody trying to do an exorcism. Love that. Um, but yeah, love, love a haunted house, love a ghost, um, love like psychological stuff, love witchy stuff, love vampire stuff stuff i do not like zombies i do not like gore i just like can't it's too much to like i just it's too overstimulating yeah yeah and she's like you know was like crying

with joy when evil dead came out so and i tried to watch the original one with her and i kid you not the whole time my hands were over my ass I was like cool I've seen like two total seconds of this movie yes Evil Dead is particularly bad with gore and just like fluids in general it's just back to back quite the gory franchise yep there's no there's no recovery time it's just like back to back heinous yes yeah that's where I have to like pause did you um when did you get into horror? Did you like horror as a kid or was there like a defining moment or a scary sleepover story or anything like that, that got you into horror? I don't have a, like, I don't have a reason for it, but when I was little, my mom would bring me and my brother to, to like the video store to rent something every week.

We could pick any movie we wanted. And for some reason, as like, as little as I can remember, I would be going to the horror section and wanting to rent something from there. And I was so curious, maybe it was the like taboo element of it, or like, I don't know. I'm just, I was too curious, but I would always be trying to like pick something up. And my mom's like, absolutely not. You're out of your mind. And then I was so annoying about it for so many years that finally she's like, all right, you want to see a scary movie, sit down. And she put on the exorcist and I was like nine, a great starter. Wow. I could not, that obviously traumatized me, but I could not watch that again until maybe like, I think it was like two or three years ago.

I was like, okay, I need to get over this because I know it's not that scary. I've seen way worse at this point. So let me like rewatch and reset. And now I'm like, oh, it's so funny. Yeah. How did you feel rewatching it? What was that experience like? I was just like, it's, it's funny it was like i think the story the background of just how creepy it was

filming and all the little like trivia bits are much more interesting and spooky to me um but i'm like fuck i can't imagine watching that in theaters way back then like that was probably so intense so scary um i had a similar with exorcist uh childhood experience i was a little older i think i was a teenager, but I was watching it with a friend and one of the windows in the house shattered of its own volition. No explanation was

ever found. We didn't find any. It's such an insane story. I cannot believe that happened. Wow. And I was too terrified to watch it ever again until this podcast. And I also found um, found it to be much less scary than I remembered. I mean, a lot of people refer to it as the scariest movie ever made, but I think because it was so terrifying in my brain from that moment, it made it feel a lot

less scary watching it, you know, as an adult in this new, a new mindset. And I was more just appreciated. It's like, it's just a really good movie. Wait, Sammy did it. When you rewatched it, did something weird happen again? Am I making that up? No, I did have to occur like with the same friend, we tried to watch it twice and both times windows. That's what I'm thinking. The second time it was a bathroom window and both times windows broke. That's what I'm thinking of. The second time it was a bathroom window. Both times windows broke?

I don't think it fully broke, but it like, but something happened. Something. Like, like a little, what do you call the little breaking thing? A little crack went through it and. Oh my. Yeah. I don't know. It was very, very weird. I don't know if someone.

You were being haunted. Was throwing rocks at the window. And I mean, during this movie that we're talking about today, I had a light go out while I was watching it. Didn't love that. So just strange occurrences happening in these demonic films. Fun times. So have you seen, you'd seen The Poss the possession before this is a film you'd seen? Okay. Yeah. I saw it once. And it just really stuck with me because I felt like it was so different from the usual, like religious horror vibe stories we get. Everything's always very like Catholic standard, you know, standard storyline. And I was like, Oh, this is different. Like,

this is kind of fun. Love that. I love the representation. Like, got some inclusivity. Ooh, okay. That's exciting. Inclusive demons. Okay. Interesting. I have no idea what to expect. I don't know what that means. So I'm excited to find out. I also love that it's based on something actually true. I watched a little like mini doc on like, what where it comes from, like the true story. And it's based on something actually true. I watched a little like mini doc on like what, where it comes from,

like the true story. And it's wild. It's wild. I want to hear about that. At the end, let's let's, I'm going to, I'm going to write it down so we don't forget.

Cause I was trying to find stuff on it and it sounded like genuinely pretty freaky. Yeah. But okay. Let me tell you, this movie has a 38% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 45 on Metacritic and 5.9 on IMDb. Budget was 14 million. It made 82.9 million. Oh, wow. That's good. Pretty damn good. I don't even, I don't even remember when this movie came

out. I like have no recollection of it, but that sounds like it did pretty well. I guess this was kind of before I was paying a lot of attention to horror movies. So maybe that's not that crazy, but. I think it came out in 2012. I looked it up for one second. Yeah. And that's for a movie that, I don't know, it's right on the cusp, but for a movie that like didn't have such a low Rotten Tomatoes for it to have made that much in the box office, that's like interesting. But yeah, I think I couldn't find too much trivia, but we'll talk about some of that true story trivia at the end.

Okay, great. Okay, so let's just watch this trailer. Ooh-hoo-hoo! Hi. Hey. You're late. You know, you ready to go? I'll have them back Sunday after lunch.

Just healthy food, okay? No pizza? I'll give you five dollars if you don't tell your mother. Make it thirty-five. Dad, you need dishes. Dad, look! Look! I'm a nightie! Cool.

Daddy, can I get this? Whatever you want, kiddo. There's something in there. tea. Cool. Daddy, can I get this? Whatever you want, kiddo. There's something in there. Well, that's weird. There aren't any seams. What does that mean? I think whoever made this didn't want anybody to open it.

Are you okay? I feel funny. Have you noticed anything odd with Emily? No. Why is the box so important to you? Don't know. Just his. His sense of... Ma'am.

Slow down! I have no idea what I've got here. Hebrew inscriptions. It says Dybbuk. And where are you? It's the Hebrew word for demon. What does this thing want with my daughter? The spirit is the taker of children.

Him? Mommy! Who am I? Once a box is opened, people die. Dad! Once a box is open people die Doctors Most high trust Beneath his wings you will be protected. He will cover you.

My god! His truth. You have my daughter, Joff! I saw something in her. Oh, my fucking God. Okay, so that's a PG-13 movie? It looks way scarier than that. It was PG-13?

I guess it was supposed to be R, and then they edited it down. It does not look like it's a PG-13 movie. It doesn't feel like one either, really. No! What the F? Like, it's terrifying. I closed my eyes for the second half of the trailer because i i couldn't i couldn't handle it it was too much speaking of evil dead sam ramey is a producer on it forgot to mention that and it definitely has some of that sam ramey um vibe i've never seen that trailer before i've never heard of this movie never i told you me neither

and thank god we're thank god we're talking about it because thank god thank god otherwise i would I've never seen that trailer before. I've never heard of this movie. Never seen it. I told you me neither. No, nothing. Thank God we're talking about it. Thank God. Thank God. Otherwise, I would have never heard about it. That's the beauty of this podcast. Look at all these films that we're discovering. I know.

My brain is expanding. Uh-huh. That's, yeah, this is, I'm really excited. I'm also terrified. And, oh, man, possession movies are always about children being possessed it does seem to go that way quite frequently yes yeah it really does yeah oh my god oh my god okay well i need to just like gather my strength i just had a cup of coffee. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling ready. There you go. You're good.

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hellobello.com slash too scary. All right, well, shall we get into it? Yeah, let's do it. I want to hear about it. Let's do it. shall we get into it? Yeah, let's do it. I want to hear about it. Let's do it. We start with some text that tells us the following is based on a true story that happened to a family over the course of 29 days. Okay, hate that. Hate that already. We'll talk more about this true story later, but... Okay, fine. It is spooky. I don't like that information. I don't want that to be in the back of my head the whole time I'm hearing about this. Well, you know what's funny is that usually in movies when it says that, especially horror movies, I always think like, well, you know, yeah, right. Like, no, it's not.

You're lying in some way. But in the small amount that I read, I was like, oh, this actually is like pretty accurate. More than I thought based on a true story. Yeah. Pretty accurate. It's more of a cautionary tale too, I would say. Like now I know really like avoid random boxes, random wooden boxes. Yep.

No, I'm good. Pass. You're going to want to leave those alone. No one. Yeah. No more yard sales. No more garage sales. No more estate sales.

There's no reason to be purchasing things from the past. That's right. Anything at all. So we then are in an overhead shot of a town and we're hearing some whispering in Polish, already unsettling this like, you know, just like just whispering is creepy and we see that the source of this whispering is a box with some hebrew carvings in it and there's a older woman just staring at the box she looks like she's uh been dealing with this box for a while she's reached her breaking point with this box she clearly knows something bad is up with this box and

she goes and grabs a hammer to uh presumably smash the box and as she raises it to smash this box the whispering is like getting louder also at this this point um and before she can smash it the left side of her face starts drooping she like drops the hammer and starts kind of looks like she's having a seizure and the face drooping was really upsetting

I thought the special effects on this are like pretty wild like the facial distortions and stuff are like really unsettling yeah this really was creepy looking and she falls to the floor and she starts convulsing and meanwhile we see um we hear her son arriving he's like knocking on the door saying mom and she is contorting and like bending we

see something very bad is happening to her. And then from outside the house, we just see as her son walks in and we hear him screaming like, mom, mom, as he finds her. And we cut away. Okay, great. And we cut to Jeffrey Dean Morgan. This is Clyde. Okay. Playing. He's a basketball coach. After he's done with his basketball practice, he goes to pick up his kids. Him and his wife Stephanie are like freshly divorced, so not

ex-wife now, but seems like they're just like finishing up the divorce, still figuring it out. Is Stephanie Kira Sedgwick? Uh-huh. Okay. Love her. Love him. What else still figuring it out and stephanie kira sedgwick uh-huh okay love her love her what else has he been in i don't actually like know him i don't think well originally gray's anatomy is what i knew him in a really beloved character in gray's anatomy

absolutely heartbreaking character sorry spoilers yeah god and then uh most more recently in the walking dead he is negan in a very the opposite of his grace anatomy character just like a very hateable character or actually i kind of fell off walking dead maybe he gets more likable but we get introduced to him in a very unlikable way okay good to know yeah um so stephanie has cleared all of his stuff out of his office he's clearly upset by that she's turned it into her jewelry room which reminded me of paranormal activity i don't know anytime i see anyone like making jewelry now in a horror movie i just think of a little bracelet making table and paranormal activity something about it i like i like just that little detail she has a new boyfriend brett who's a dentist oh a dentist i know there's some dental dental horror coming up and

yeah i saw glimpses of that through my through my like i was covering my eyes but i saw some dental themed horror imagery in the trailer but he kind of has the vibe of the new boyfriend in liar liar he was really giving me carrie elwes and in liar liar vibes he's like very chipper and just like clearly getting under uh clyde's skin and so he's picking up the kids, uh, for, to take them to his place. And Stephanie's telling him, you make sure they eat healthy, nothing that doesn't grow on trees, no pizza. And he gets them back to his place. He's bought a new place. It doesn't have a lot of stuff in it yet, but he's immediately we're ordering pizza and you know he's saying don't tell mom um and he's got a cute relationship with them they other than like it's clear that the divorce has been hard on the kids especially the younger

daughter emily who is 10 i think and she you know mentions wishing that they would get back together like she still has hopes of that and the older sister who now i can't remember her name is kind of making fun of her like they're not going to get back together and that upsets emily so but um other than that i mean i feel feel like Clyde seems like pretty good dad. So they like spend the night at his new house. And then the next day they're driving around and they drive past a yard sale. And the older sister says how he needs dishes. So we should stop by and check out this yard sale.

What could go wrong famous last words no more yard sales i mean don't obviously that's not a sustainable choice everyone yeah i really do but for a full dish set maybe not yeah my first choice yep that's a good point other options there yep uh older daughter's name is hannah hannah and emily hannah and emily so they stop at this yard sale and at a familiar looking location that we might recognize from the opening scene emily immediately finds this box drawn to it, which at first I was kind of laughing at like what little girl would want this box, but maybe there was some, you know, something supernatural happening.

It was an inexplicable. It was calling to her. Yeah. But I, she really wants this box and I don't know. I was just trying to think when I was a little kid, my grandma did actually have kind of a creepy box that I was a little fascinated with. So maybe it's not that weird, but like, it's not, I wouldn't normally think of a little girl being like, oh, I need this like old wooden box. Please dad, please daddy. Not necessarily, but I can see some appeal if there's like, does she open the box or does it not open? It doesn't open.

It's like a puzzle box, almost like those wooden ones where it's like you don't know where you have to push in like all these secret areas for it to open. So that could add to the intrigue. Mystery. Yeah, that's kind of fun. Since the box was kind of like whispering eerily to the older woman and it wasn't like i mean we didn't see it open i would imagine it can like you know maybe draw you in draw somebody yeah that's what i think is probably happening too she's being drawn to it and clyde buys it for her sure we can get this box and as she's carrying the box, she sees through the window of the house,

the woman from the opening scene in her bed, bandaged up with a nurse tending to her. And she sees Emily through the window and sees that she's holding the box and she starts freaking out, screaming, banging on the window. And the nurse comes in, like runs to her side and like restrains her, calms her down. But we know she's very, very much not happy about Emily taking this box. God damn it. And back at home, they realize, yeah, that there's no way to open the box. She's asking her dad to help her open it. There's no obvious way to open it, but they hear something rattling inside. So there must be a way to open it, but we just don't know how. That night she's sleeping and hears it whispering to her again.

We're hearing that same Polish whispering. hears it whispering to her again we're hearing that same polish whispering and she goes over to it and is pressing around on the side and finds this little part of it that you pull out or push in i can't remember and it unhooks something a little little secret opening thing and it it pops open and she finds inside the box um some creepy shit okay great there's a tooth and a dried out moth that like a huge moth they're like i thought they were cicadas like locust size yeah yeah big boy big big moths can be, big boy. Moths can be terrifying when they're huge. Yeah, disgusting. They can be so big. They have, like, meaty bodies.

Yes! Gross! Meaty bodies. Disgusting. Nasty. And she's, like, rummaging around in this box in a way that I felt like I wouldn't touch this stuff so freely. But again, she's being drawn to it. There was, like like a lock of hair

Like weird Of course Stuff you wouldn't want to necessarily Immediately touch Getting your fingers all into But she does and one of the things she finds in there Is a ring and she Puts it on

She is 10 I guess we have to remember Yes Also potentially being And she puts it on. She is 10, I guess we have to remember. Yes. She's also potentially being called to do things that aren't necessarily coming from her own decisions, perhaps. We're not sure. So we'll cut her some slack. Sure. Just this once.

Not for the rest of the film. So the next day, we see that the ring has like, I don't know if we see it yet, but the ring, it's starting to almost bruise around her finger. There's like a bluish tint to her skin around the ring. She's being really quiet and more reserved than normal. I think her sister's asking her,'s going on are you okay she says i feel funny i don't feel like me which is a creepy line and she's just kind of just like oh you'll be okay you know i guess you wouldn't jump straight to well if she's possessed something really bad is happening you know she jump straight to, well, she's possessed. I thought something really bad is happening. You know, she's trying to comfort her and they're being taken back to their mom's house that day. And older sister, Hannah, she's probably, I don't know, 13 or so.

And she immediately narcs on dad. Dad, dad gave us pizza. narcs on dad dad dad gave us pizza and i thought it's so crazy to like not let your kids eat pizza it's like such a funny thing i feel like i ate pizza nearly constantly growing up and which the mom in this like her character is kind of like her whole vibe is very like helicopter mom which okay there's there's some things where i'm like okay this mom is so involved like her whole vibe is very like helicopter mom which okay there's there's some things where i'm like okay this mom is so involved like she would have caught her daughter's finger turning blue if she doesn't have her but yeah yeah i was thinking that too there's like a moment where i was like finally she's noticing something happening because seems like she should be

noticing these things they kind of chalk up all her weird behavior throughout to like oh it's the divorce like she's just having a hard time with the divorce which i think that the sister says to her when she's like i don't feel like me she's like oh it's you know mom and dad life's different and hard when like yep that kind of vibe yep exactly uh so they're with their moms for a while. But then the next time they come back to the dads, they arrive and the girls come in first and they see that something is in the kitchen. There's things being thrown out of the kitchen, jars rolling out as if someone's going through the refrigerator and the cabinets and and raiding them and throwing food everywhere and so they're obviously very scared and Clyde comes in goes in front to check it out is calling out hello who's there and as he turns the corner we just hear something scuttle away and there's a dog door and the dog the flap to the dog door is flapping back and forth like

something just ran out and he lets out a big sigh of relief like, oh, it's just a raccoon or something like that. It was just an animal. We're not so sure. The term scuttling, I don't know. It was a scuttle too. It really is. It's a scuttle.

It's a scuttle if I've ever heard a scuttle. They have a dog door. I guess he just bought this house. He doesn't have a dog though. It's a scuttle. It's a scuttle if I've ever heard a scuttle. They have a dog door. I guess he just bought this house. He doesn't have a dog, though. No, they don't have a dog. It's a big, big dog door. Massive dog door. Like, full human can just easily limbo through that dog door. That's too big. That's a privacy concern, security concern. Yeah, they do mention, or the kids, when they first see the house, ask, can we get a dog? Because there's a dog door.

And I didn't realize until right now that that's kind of a fun because dogs in horror movies are such a trope. That's funny that they acknowledged it. And then we're like, just kidding. We're not getting a dog because at that moment I'm thinking, oh, boy, they're going to get a dog and it's going to be bad. But they didn't. They nail that dog door shut and think it was just a raccoon we're fine and later that evening that box is whispering to emily again saying emily which is creepy and also made me laugh that Emily's not here this week because there's a lot

of like Emily content a lot of Emily content maybe it's for the best or unless she's possessed right now everybody pray for Emily um and she's sitting with the box she's got the box open she's staring into it and Clyde is I think coming to to put her to bed or something. And he walks in and he's, her back is to him. So he can see her reflection in the top of the box as if there's like a mirror at the top of the box. And it looks as if her face is melting similarly to the woman in the beginning where her eyes are drooping and just looks vaguely demonic and scary white and weird yep yeah it's like creepy and he he walks up puts his hand on his shoulder she turns around and she looks normal but very vacant like all through this

she's looking a little gone behind the eyes so she looks back at him with kind of an empty stare but not a demonic melty face stare it's her normal face but just looking kind of empty the next day they're having breakfast and emily is absolutely going to town on her pancakes. Okay. Yes. Not a breath, not chewing, just like gobbling and swallowing pancakes. Yeah. At a pace that looks as if it's, yeah, like a contest. Just shoveling them in. And Clyde is saying, you know, slow down, Emily.

You don't need to eat that fast. And she's just stabbing plate, shoving her mouth, stab plate, shoving her mouth. And it's like a loud fork and plate noise. The editing here is very like stressful because the sister is telling an animated story at this time. And we're just cutting back and forth to this fork slamming and it's shoving in her mouth and the sister talking and the dad looking back and forth, like slow down and slow down. And eventually he reaches out to her and is like, Hey, stop. Like you don't need to eat so fast.

And she takes the fork and stabs it in his hand. Jesus Christ. Ouch. And immediately you see kind of a flash of actual Emily now saying, Daddy, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, Daddy, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, Daddy. And clearly very shocked and freaked out by what she has

just done. Worst part of the possession films when the person flashes back, the real person re-enters the body for a second. Yeah. It's a horrible reminder that they're still there somewhere. That fear of being trapped

in your own body. Not in the driver's seat of your own body is a very scary thought. Yep. Disgusting. Hate that. So then he sends her to her room and yeah, he very much

knows that something is up with Emily. Mom hasn't Caught on yet but Because she had they have gone back To the mom's house soon and you wonder what happened Those couple days because she must have been Not fully herself but Anyways well the box

The box is staying at the dad's house Boxes at the dad's So I'm wondering Was she a bit more normal when she's back at mommy's house? And then when she goes back to the box, it's like slowly like building up more. I don't know. That makes sense. Proximity.

It's probably a stronger force the closer you get to it. So they're getting ready for bed that night. I think we like go to the nighttime and Hannah is brushing her her teeth and we see the big moth flying in the background and uh first actually we see that it sits on her toothbrush and she doesn't notice which was a gross little detail really gross then lifts it up and brushes her teeth with it because she didn't see it i'm like ew yuck she's like hearing this fluttering around fluttering around and i think she sees like or hears something from behind the mirror like it's one of those open up mirrors like medicine cabinet mirror opens it up and it is

filled with moths there's like a hundred in there she screams cde runs up, sees all the moths is, is also freaked out. What is going on? And we back out into the hallway and see more moths underneath the door to Emily's room. And they walk over there, open the door and Emily's room. It's like a swarm of moths just thousands it's so many months cgi right do we feel like these are real moths that they released

it's definitely cgi but it would be very impressive if they were like sorry little actress you're gonna have to be in this room with the 1,000 moths it's one thing to release a thousand moths it's another thing to like try to like wrangle them back wherever they need to go what's the movie that used the real bugs though it was either the omen candy man candy man oh god candy man what the fuck fuck I mean there were no rules back then too I mean the rules are different nowadays They were like Pass out Pass out seeing a bee

Within six feet of me Yeah Didn't he put them in his mouth and stuff Gross He did a lot He got paid enough for that Tony Todd pay him more. So, he grabs Emily, pulls, they run out of the house, I think.

And she was sitting there staring at the box when all the shit was swarming, too. So, it's not like she was asleep. She was just like in the zone. Yeah, completely unbothered by the moths. Just sitting cross-legged on the bed. Not a good sign. Emily's not okay. But the next thing I have written down, I might, sorry if I'm skipping something, but

is Emily getting ready for bed. I think maybe back at the mom's house, but maybe this is at the dad's house, but she's brushing her teeth now and starts choking. It's the dad's house. Dad's house still. And she's choking on something and she's trying to get something out from the back of her throat and trying to cough it up. Nothing's coming up and she can't figure out what it is she like opens her mouth looks in the mirror can't see anything so she grabs a flashlight and is shining it into the back of her throat and as she does we see two little fingers crawling up from inside of her throat and she drops the flashlight immediately, jumpscare, and

when she goes to look back, it's gone. Oh my god. But pretty nasty. Like baby fingers? They're pretty small. Like two little fingers just crawling up there. Like little demon fingers. Little demon fingers. Yeah. Ew.

And she's getting obsessed with this box. She's constantly asking the dad, like, is my box okay? Where's my box? Sorry, like, don't touch my box. Don't weigh that. So, I think as a parent, you'd be like, okay. I mean, and he does. He's like, okay, what's the deal with your box?

Like, tell me more about your box. And she's saying, you know, just promise me you're not going to touch it. He's like, okay, yeah. I me you're not going to touch it he's like okay yeah i promise i'm not going to touch it immediately goes opens that box rummages through it which i think is the the you know responsible thing to do definitely 100 but it also reminded me of being a kid and a teenager and telling my mom not to touch my stuff and then her immediately going to do it and me being so pissed off like i fucking told you read my diary yes exactly i know i feel like i was so naive when i was little thinking that like my parents wouldn't do that or like my mom's my dad like didn't give a shit but my mom would that was definitely going

through my stuff like for sure i would totally do that. Yeah. Just out of curiosity. It's understand. It's like you're in charge of their safety and lives. And it's like, you should know what they're doing. What they're up to. Especially if they're being weird and freaky and staring at a box all day. And it looks like their face is melting a lot of the time. You're going to want to do some, some extra prying. And so, yeah she she gets the box from the dad's house and throws it in a little duffel bag and takes it to school with her great love a little

show-and-tell moment at school with this old box it's not it's like funny though that she's just it's not show-and-tell she just like wants the box near her it needs to be near her yeah it's not show and tell she just like wants the box near her it needs to be near her yeah it's a proximity thing and some of the other kids in class try to grab it from her and they're laughing at her a bit and they they grab it and open it and she has a huge freak out i was reminded of isabel firman an orphan where she throws she's screaming and she's hitting this kid that grabbed the box and she's like that's my box don't touch my box she slaps the shit out of him yes yeah the teacher has to pull her pull her off This is very out of character for Emily. So they call in the parents, Stephanie and Clyde, for a meeting that she got violent with another student. And they think it's probably best for her to spend some time away from the box. Or they're going to keep the box at school.

Because she's being pretty weird about the box. So we're going to keep the box at school because she's being pretty weird about the box. So we're going to keep it here. And this is again, Stephanie is going like, oh, well, the divorce, you know, and I'm like, oh, she's just saying this is all about her. It's not all about you guys. Even if it is about the divorce, it's like still maybe look into it a little bit more. Yeah. A little bit of a red more yeah it's still not okay but no we're worried about pizza yeah pizza's the problem way more worried about the carbs

these children are eating sounds like an almond mom um so they leave the box at school and the teacher is you know finishing up her work at the end of the day. Well, it's nighttime now and she's like getting ready to go home. What's that? Why? What teachers are hanging out at school after dark? Yeah, that's way too late. It's too late. Yeah. We don't pay teachers enough for that. You need to go home as soon as soon as you're done. Oh, yeah. A lot needs to change in the school systems. So she sees the box on the desk and I think maybe it's whispering or something or like calling to pencil holder case, like a little toy flag thing.

And it starts flapping in the wind very aggressively. But it's there inside. So obviously there's no drafts in there, no gusts of wind coming through here. And she looks at that and is confused by that and as she's looking at it we see little drips of blood on the desk in front of her and she looks at that and reaches to her face and we see that she is bleeding from her eyes and oh god i think it just escalates into a full like she's flung around the room by this force

invisible force and it just eventually I think she is thrown from a window or impaled on something I can't quite remember but she's done yeah thrown out a window

because that force wants Emily it's like bring me back bring me back punishment for separating from the box yeah we're definitely not paying teachers enough yeah yeah

so the next day Clyde is thinking that he's going to be needing to comfort his daughter from the trauma of her teacher dying. And so he's talking to her on the phone at first, I think. And it's like, so what happened with your teacher was like really really awful or like how are you doing and she's like yeah yeah like i'm fine where's my box like is my box okay girl therapist um so were they at the diner for this they go to the diner yeah they might have been yeah the diner for the whole thing and so again she's like eating and eating at this pace that she's barely chewing and just like shoving food into her mouth asking for more and he he's i think she tells him here that she's talking to her friend in the box he's he's basically like tell me more about the box like what's going on with this box and she she's like, that's my, I talked to my friend who lives inside of the box.

And she tells him it's a woman. And she's saying it all very matter-of-factly in between breaths of like shoving food into her mouth. She's like, yeah, yeah, my lady friend, my woman friend that lives in the box. Like, can I get some more food? This't good this isn't good news clyde is looking very disturbed yes of course she's looking around the restaurant she says can i can i get some more can i get some more food because she's she's still hungry and her like voice changes she's still hungry but in kind of like a subtle way but it sounds like an older woman's voice just for a word or two that I thought was a nice little effect. Very creepy.

And Clyde is like, all right, time to throw the box away. That'll solve it. We carry that box to a dumpster. Wipe your hands off. You're good. Done and done. That box is coming right back. And that night, Emily obviously knows that her box is missing. She's freaking out. She's in a nasty nightgown. We got to call that out.

And she's screaming at her dad.'s my box what did you do with it and this fight is like getting intense and and he's like yelling at her like you did you can't have the box like something bad is happening with the box and then there's a slapping sound and she reaches to her face and looks at him with this look of um shock like he's just hit her and it's filmed in a pretty well a good way where i did a bit of a double take but you don't like see him hit her but it like looks convincing like maybe that's what happened but then it happens again and you kind of see that he didn't his hands do not move and so he also looks shocked and now hannah comes out of her room and just sees Emily with like red handprints on her face saying like, dad hit me, dad hit me.

And he's like, no, I didn't. I swear I didn't. I would never. And she Emily runs out of the house crying and and in pursuit of her box. in pursuit of her box she runs to the dumpster that it's uh had been thrown in and and fishes it out um assume that she's able to locate it because it's calling to her and she has like a conversation now with the voice in the box and i can't remember anything that they say and i think the box is still it's still whispering in polish but emily's able to understand it and is they're kind of having a back and forth and i think it it's basically asking

if it can live in her or something like there's a point to which it asks something that it looks like emily does not want like i feel like there's a moment in her face where she's like wait what no and but it's too late yeah fuck all these moths appear and swarm and and go down into her mouth and into her ew ew ew ew ew and she's um she's possessed now now it's fully 100 percent yep 100 percent oh no oh no also the fact that she like ran that far middle of the night in like middle of God knows where, barefoot in a little nightgown. Just all of that. Scary enough as is. Yeah.

Terrifying. Not looking good for Clyde, who was supposed to be. Now accused of abusing her. Yeah. So cut to them in court. And Stephanie being granted an emergency custody motion to to have full custody of the kids he's telling her Stephanie you know I didn't do this I would never do this and she's not believing him and so she now takes the kids back to her place and we see her and Brett

in the box I'm guessing although does the box not even really matter anymore because like she's just possessed I don't know where did the box go at this time she still has it but they're like nobody's alerted the mom that the box which like if I was him I would have immediately been like something's up this is the like run of events

here and something's fishy and either she's losing it or like something spooky is going on. Either way, I'm going to let y'all know. Something really, something really bad is happening and you should be aware of it. And really bad with the box. Yeah. And you would think also she, you know, Stephanie would know about her teacher, obviously. So. Yeah. Right.

But again, pizza. Kara Cedric is just not paying attention. We're just worried about pizza. We're worried about, pizza. Kara Cedric is just not paying attention. We're just worried about pizza. We're worried about that pizza. And we see a shot of Stephanie chugging some red wine at what seems to be early, mid-afternoon. So she's stressed and dealing with it in her own way. And we see Clyde now trying to find answers. He goes to a college professor and and oh, he has the box. He brings the box to this professor to basically ask, OK, can you tell me anything about this box?

And this professor looks at it, examines it, reads some of the Hebrew inscriptions in it. And he says, I think it's from poland in the like 1920s or 1930s and he says one of the words inscribed in it is dibbock which is the hebrew word for demon and he tells us a little bit about dibbock boxes which are it is it was thought that you could contain an evil malevolent spirit to this to these boxes yeah and he was like I think the inscriptions on it were basically like

saying essentially don't open it and so he's telling him yeah as long as you know this is essentially like don't open it warning death so as long as you don't open it you're good and he's like fuck and so then Clyde goes back home and he's we get a little research montage he's googling Jewish exorcism looking into all this like what can I do and he eventually goes to Stephanie's house when I think Stephanie's not there, but Emily is staying home from school because she doesn't feel good because she's possessed. And so he's able to

go into her room and he reads her Psalm 91. And as he's reading this passage to her, she's previously what looked like completely asleep. The second he starts reading it, her eyes open wide. She's looking not pleased. She turns over to face him and she's given him this real evil glare. him and she's given him this real evil glare he's persevering through the reading and there's now a draft in the room and the pages are getting blown and he's just like okay i gotta keep reading and then eventually she gives him this final look and the book is flung across the room and i think at that moment stephanie comes back and is basically saying, you know, you're you're against the. What are you doing in here?

Court order right now. You need to get the fuck out of here. Oh, geez. And he's like, our daughter's possessed. Yeah. Like, hello. When she's when he's reading and she's looking at him like angry. There's also tears running down her face.

So it's almost like the spirit, the demons angry. But Emily's like, help. Yeah, that's another little her little actual Emily shining through. That's so, so, so sad. finds this person but he finds a rabbi okay rabbi uh zedek and basically goes into like this room of all these rabbis and is i think still has the box and is now showing it to them and basically just asking for help and can any of you help me and they all seem like very scared about by the box like they're like i don't think so like i think we'd rather not like did you walk away yeah yeah and he's like my daughter opened it my 10 year old daughter opened it and they're like oh yeah sorry i'm good good luck so they won't help him and he's looking so desperate

and he's like please if it was your daughter or they say something like we'll leave it uh in god's hands right god or something yeah yeah and he's like if it was your daughter would you leave it to the will of god and zadik feels he's he's the only one that feels like compelled to help him and so he he follows him out as he's leaving and he's like i will help you with the exorcism. He's a bit more like modern vibes too. It's like his, his dad and all the elders are much more traditional old school. So I kind of warned him of that, but he's like when Clyde rolls up,

it's actually played by modest Yahoo. I don't know if you remember who that is. I like remembered the name because I looked him up cause I liked him and I remember the name, but I don't really remember ever listening, but he's a musician, right? He's like a rapper. Yeah. Yeah. So he plays this kind of like maybe a bit more progressive modern, but they're in the, the Hasidic community in Brooklyn. So where I forget where the possession is actually taking place, but he drives, you know, two, 300 miles to Brooklyn to the Hasidic community. And it's like,

I know y'all can help me like somebody in here. Help me, please. Yeah. You guys. Wow. I love this idea that like rabbis or like priests would secretly know about exorcisms, just like kind of be trained, like on the side, like you should know. Yeah. He just, do they learn that? Where do they learn that? I mean, ask Tim. Um, he certainly hasn't told me, so I don't know. He better brush up on his exorcism skills. It's the only reason I feel safe in my own home. Is he, is, is this person a rabbi, a priest? My, so my husband is my husband is an Episcopalian priest. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, where's the training? We need the backstory. He's got to brush up on his demonology. I've been joking with him that he better know how to, like, the only useful thing that he could bring to the table with this profession is knowing how to do an exorcism. And he laughs, but there's something there's something he won't be laughing when it happens to us uh so so he has one man willing to help him and meanwhile back at

stephanie's house now stephanie hears some something rummaging in the kitchen. Scuttling around. A scene we saw earlier. Food flying. And she turns the corner and we see that it is Emily. Just, again, shoving food into her mouth. Like, absolutely. Like raw meat. Ooh, yeah, the raw meat dangling from her mouth. And she's just rabid, basically.

Just devouring everything and this is the the moment now that stephanie i feel like for the very first time is like something seems not right so she's trying to approach emily she's trying to calm her down and say, Emily, like, are you OK? Put that down. Emily runs behind the like kitchen counter and is is yelling at her. Emily's not Emily's not here right now. Emily's not here right now. And she's like she's pretty creepy and she's throwing glasses at her mom. She's knocking cups and mugs off the counter and so it

just has all this broken glass and porcelain now on the phone or on the floor that Stephanie has to walk through and barefoot. And it looks bad. And this is something that happens I feel like. Well, I think in

the case of your child being endangered, you'd probably walk on glass, push through some pain of walking on glass. But I'm like, if I get one tiny little amount of glass in my foot, I'm like, I can't, I'm out. Like I need to sit down. I don't get that out. I'd be like screaming. I can't get her on also.

I'm going to grab a slippy real quick. I'll be right back, Emily. I know this is important, but obviously I need some shoes right now. It's an emergency. But I have a friend that recently pointed out the little thing that happens in a lot of, not just horror

movies, all movies where people seem like they can slice their whole palms open very easily. I feel like that happens in so much stuff that they're able to just be like, and do it. And it's like, no, if you had to cut your palm open like that, you'd be absolutely screaming in pain. But it's just snuck its way in into movies to as if it's just a totally normal thing to be able to completely slice your whole palm open without the recovery from that like yeah yeah then your palm is fully sliced open for a long time yeah not not ideal yeah so this kind of reminded me of that of her just

walking across the glass although she does make it look look painful. She's not having a, she's not happy about it. She's not having a good time. And Emily kind of disappears at some point. She it's dark, it's nighttime. So she like slinks into the shadows and, and Stephanie loses sight of her and is calling out for her. And we see Emily's now behind her with a big piece of glass in her hand. Stephanie's backing into her, not realizing that she's behind her. And then Emily jumps on her, but then briefly becomes Emily again. And she's crying and she jumps and hugs her. And she's saying, Mommy, who am i oh i hate that and she still has a piece of glass and it's and we see that she's having this battle with something inside of herself where it looks

like she's still being compelled in some way to stab her mom with the glass but she's able to overpower it and so she does not stab her mom great uh then the next day we see brett leaving for work going to the the dental office um what is it with yeah i mean the dentist is on the mind today i know i know i'm gonna have a teeth dream tonight especially after this part so he's leaving for work and now emily is just looking full demonic possessed she has like dark circles under her eyes she's like so pale just staring at him wide-eyed on the front lawn looking like she's casting a spell like she's looks like she's up to no good it's getting windy oh yeah windy he sees her and he's like emily um what's up like

emily what's going on and she says i think you should leave and i was thinking i think you should leave comes out may 30th i just got excited it'll be out by the time this episode comes out love i think you should leave and uh he's saying again like thinking that it's about the divorce and him being the new boyfriend which i guess you know i think you should leave could be interpreted that way. But then he as these the winds are picking up and her hair's blowing and there's very sinister vibe. He reaches his mouth and one of his teeth falls out. Great.

Then in rapid succession, all the rest of them start falling he like basically reaches up to his mouth and his teeth just one by one are all falling out of his mouth and this is yeah this is exactly my my go-to nightmare i have it all the time teeth so many people so many such a common one it common one weird one oh i think too he was like he said he was um after the like freak out in the kitchen i guess he showed up that night and was like don't worry babe i've got a like mental health specialist friend that's like the best and works with kids we can take her there in the morning or something so i think he was getting ready to take her there got it and so yeah that this demon does not want that no thank you yeah but yeah i was surprised i thought i was gonna have a teeth dream last night because it seemed you know top

of mind but i actually had a dream that a komodo dragon bit my butt what what wait okay have you told jenna of, I told her first thing It's because of Jenna Silent Jenna Is very, very scared of Komodo dragons And actually in the dream, it was Jenna and I On vacation and there was a Komodo dragon there And I was like, oh, Jenna's gonna be so mad

She's gonna be so upset And then it started chasing us And I was trying to climb up a rope or a tree Or something and it jumped and it bit my butt oh dreams are so weird wait can i tell you about my dream um it's dreams are like whatever i'm just gonna tell you anyway okay i had a dream that silas was um slicing open watermelons with a chainsaw and i was like letting him do it and then i had a realization like halfway through i was like wait a minute chainsaws are dangerous and like I shouldn't just let him and so then I was like trying to get the chainsaw away from him and then I woke up and I was like what the fuck was that about hmm

chainsaws watermelon on the mind I guess so it's almost summer. Is it summer? Watermelon season. That's what that means. Nothing to do with your fears about parenting. Nothing to do about fears about Silas's safety. My own skill at mothering. Yeah. No, it was about watermelon mostly. I think that's the takeaway. So then they are taking her now to,

they like obviously know something is very wrong, though we don't see, I think, much of the aftermath of Brett losing all of his teeth. Does he just kind of flee after that? He just drives off. I guess he'd probably be terrified. There's got to be like, I don't know, maybe in the other cut of the movie.

Yeah, the extended yeah the extended the rated R version yeah maybe we saw where Brett went oh wait wait wait there was another part that um that was right before this where like he's in the he's in the garage or something

oh yes yes prior to the even yeah I forget if this is after the kitchen scene or before or before the driving. But at some point prior to him losing all his teeth, he's in the garage and she rolls up and she basically says, like, I don't like you. And she's holding this old tooth that was in the box. Yeah. And she's like it's like she's plotting and he basically is, when she says like, I don't like you, I think you should leave or something like that.

He was like, essentially like, tough shit. I'm not going anywhere. Like, get used to it. So I think that's when she's like, you want to play these games? Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see if you're not going anywhere. Yeah. She called this bluff.

So after Bretttt leaves then i think somehow stephanie must find or like realize something is really wrong something is very bad and so they take her now to the hospital um oh she was seizing she was seizing on the grass after he left okay yeah. Yeah. And she ran out and was like, oh my God, what's happening? Yeah. So we take her to the hospital and now she's getting an MRI in the craziest looking, uh, the stuff that's over her reminded me of the, the material that they pack fruit in sometimes, you know, like a pear will come in that mesh. Oh yeah. She's like, yes like a pear will come in that mesh. Oh, yeah. She's like...

Yes, I remember seeing this in the trailer. And I've never seen that before. And I mean, it must be a real thing. Like, I don't know why they would just add that in there for no reason. That was also a very large MRI machine. I'm like, you could get like 10 people in there. So, I don't know. Is her whole body covered in that mesh? Pretty much. It's like her head and torso, I think. Maybe it's like a thing they do for children to protect them in MRIs. I don't

know. That's terrifying. Maybe because they're not too wiggly. Yeah. That's so scary. MRIs are scary enough. Yeah, it did look scary. But so now they're all in the room with the monitor where they're looking at the results of the scans and like everybody's in there which i don't think they would normally allow like the the mom and sister they're all like just like standing right behind the doctors looking over their shoulder like let's take a peek at these mri results yeah and like and now analyze them together let's all see them together in real time. I don't think. Like a music studio almost like where they're like in the console room and like they're just all hanging out, having a good time.

That's so funny. Yeah. But we're getting images coming back slowly. It's kind of taking looks like one like layer at a time, like it's going deeper into it or something or get just getting clearer as more information is coming in and so the scans at first was like seeing something looking a little weird kind of next to where her heart is it's like what what is that right there moving a little bit too moving and just different enough that your eye is drawn to it. And they're all also looking at it, trying to make sense of what that is thinking. Is that going to clear up as we're getting a new version of this scan? But it's just kind of looking worse and worse as we're getting

more detailed. And eventually we're able to make out that it looks like a face, like a person's face in there. Wow. Can you imagine if this is a real thing? If you are possessed, just get an MRI to double check. There's just like a little demon like, hey, I'm a demon right there. That would really simplify some things. Yeah, you'd be like, well, yeah, there's your problem. Yeah. There's a little demon guy in there.

There's a little demon guy in there. So as they're seeing this, they're freaking out. And Clyde and Sadek are arriving at this time, ready to do their exorcism. They've got their gear. This is where I feel like I started feeling like Sam Raimi vibes. Oh, they were. They were even before they got there. The what's his name? Zadok.

Zadok. Yeah. So they're driving in the car and he's basically saying like, we need a name. He's like looking all over the boxes. Like we need the demon's name to, to get rid of it. Like if you don't know the demon's name, you can't do an exorcism kind of vibe. And he's like, I've looked everywhere, blah, blah, blah. kind of vibe and he's like i've looked everywhere blah blah and then exotic like punches the the mirror that's inside the box and sees the name like this name in hebrew it's carved into the box

and it's the name of the demon and it um and abizu no relation to pazuzu from the exorcist that was one of the trivia names that i saw um they're both uh apparently real demons well you know that the you know real demons quote unquote real yeah but yeah just similar names Real demons Quote unquote Real Yeah But Yeah Just similar names Abizu and Pazuzu I wonder if they hang out Those actually are cute names

I feel like that's Someone's cat's name I bet it is I was gonna say It sounds like What's the name of the Um Bird in the Lion King

Zazu Um Yeah Zazu Yeah They're just like Relatives of Zazu The three of them

All hang out Abizu, Pazuzu, and Zazu? They're just like relatives of Zazu? The three of them all hang out. Zuzu and Zazu. They run into the hospital room where Emily's at and the mom is there and the sister and they had both seen little baby demon on the

MRI scan. So the mom is like, okay, clearly like there's really something up and Clyde runs in with, um, Zadok and she's like, there's, there's something wrong with Emily, like something along those lines. And he's like, I can think I would've been like, I told you, but basically she was like, or they, they were basically like, doctors aren't going to be able to help or like, they're not going to be able to help her with this. Are they? And Zadig says something funny. She was like, she was like,

can you help us? And he's like, well, yeah, I can help. Like, what do I look like a doctor? Like I can actually do something helpful. So he says it in a kind of cheeky, like doctors are useless kind of way, which I thought was funny. And, um, then clyde is like okay we you know we got to get her out of this room for whatever reason because obviously like doctors wouldn't be cool with an exorcism being performed um and he somehow knows that there's a physical therapy room on like in the basement or some other floor that is not being used, I guess from his coaching days, he knows this. And so they pick her up and get into an elevator together, which like that for me is always like,

you're going to take a demon into an elevator. That's a bad idea. I was surprised they didn't take advantage of that moment. Cause you know, I feel like it was kind, set up, but anyways, elevators are scary. Yeah. Like shut down the elevator and they got to like crawl out and they'll safely get down to the physical therapy room and, um, and they put her down on some kind of table situation. And so it's like, uh,

the mom and sister and the dad are holding her down. And Zadok is setting up and ready to read some kind of passage and say some prayers in Hebrew. And so they're going at it. And he basically says, like, this demon is going to do whatever it can to stop us from finishing this ritual. Like we have to finish once we start. We can't like half ass exorcism and like to be continued tomorrow. So it was like, we have to make sure this completes. And so he starts and then Emily starts freaking out and, you know, screaming, being all over, all over the place, yelling, saying other stuff. I don't remember what she says. And then it gets to the point where Clydede is yelling into emily's face like take me take me instead trying to like have

the demon jump which as a parent vibe i get like why one would do that but i'm also like you really think it's a good idea like what's your plan after that demon in you like short sighted keep it in the baby girl keep it in the baby girl and handle it that way like smaller package yeah but yeah he's yelling and then she ends up getting super riled up and like basically

is able to somehow jump on Zadok and like hold him down and I forget if she's like trying to choke him or something I think so yeah she's I forget if she's like trying to choke him or something I think so yeah she's like holding him down on top trying to choke him so he can't continue with the prayers that he's saying and Clyde and everybody ends up pulling her off and she books it and she runs out and so Clyde's like hell no let me get her back runs after her and they're going through like you know all these halls of the basement um which also happens to be right next to the morgue I'm like

that's an interesting place to put a physical therapy room but okay um so we go into this basically blacked out morgue and you see like bodies lying on tables, not in any freezer just tables with sheets on them. Yeah, we just leave them out. Yeah, I was like, okay, I'm just letting them saw a little bit, I guess. So he's like got a little flashlight and he's yelling like, Emily, Emily.

And then we see an exit sign which is actually a really cool shot. It's like the whole room is dark. There's an exit sign centered with some like red light shining down and she's against the wall with her head looking down yeah and she's starting to repeat um I forget what she's repeating

she's saying like daddy you're scaring me oh yeah so she says like daddy you're scaring me and then this like kind of weird cry noise and it's looping on repeat as if it was recorded. And even the giggle, like every little bit, it's like identical. This is when also a light went out in my house.

Yuck. Which I think it's just on a timer, but I've never had it on for long enough to know that before. And so it did scare me. I was just like, why did that light just go out? But then I walked back over and it turned back on just fine but yep just don't love that that's that's very scary i i think that she like lunges at him at some point and it like looks like they're having a physical fight again maybe she's trying to strangle him now but something happens that they end up like

looks like embracing and zadik and the rest of them like arrive and find them and it looks like maybe they're hugging and we're not sure if yeah like is this is it is it over they're they're they're holding each other and i forget if we're somehow back in the physical therapy room or if the lights just turned on in the room they were in. But they're holding each other and it's like their heads are laying on each other and the ring that was on her hand, which throughout

the whole movie, it gets like bluer and bruiser going up her arm. So they're holding each other and the ring falls off onto the ground. And so we're like, okay, is this done? And we kind of get a sense that Emily is back to Emily. And Zadok is like,

this isn't right. This is not right. This is not how this goes. We didn't finish the things. Where is it? Where is the demon? And so he's like, looking around like something's off. And then we see it's in Clyde. Oh, no.

Yeah. Listen to Clyde. Yeah. He let himself be open and it jumped in. And yeah, not ideal. Not ideal. So Emily kind of like we see, OK, this is bad now. Zadok has the box and all the things.

And Emily kind of runs over to her mom and is like mommy and she's you know she's back to Emily now and we see Clyde I think he kind of flies across the room and hits the wall I believe and he's like sitting on the ground with his head down I think Zadok

is like is yelling the like passages he's like trying to do the continue with the exorcism. And he's like, yeah, they're like lights are probably flickering in the room. Like, yeah. And we see a hand start crawling out from Clyde's mouth. It's really gross. Yeah.

And it's really gross. I think climbs all the way out, though. I don't know if we see it climb all the way out. We see like a little like Ugly like golem-esque Demon face And he's like yelling the demon's name He's like screaming Abizu Abizu And the whole room is like you know

Wiling out it's like you're in a little mini tornado Yep And then I think he just kind of like Handled it Am I missing something? It's in the handled it. He gets that in the box. No, I think he gets back in that box. Oh, yeah. So he just crawls right out of Clyde.

Yeah. He like really, Manas Yahu really like popped off and got her out. He knew what he was doing. Wow. Yeah. And he throws his little, is it like a shawl? Like the, it's like a kind of prayer cloth that he had over his head. And so he puts that over the box with the book he was reading from.

And they're just kind of like, oh, and he grabs the ring off the floor. And it's just kind of like, all right, done. I guess like we're good to go. We're good to go here. Yeah. Like, good job team. We're good to go here. Yeah. Like good job team. We did it. That's so funny. Just another day in the life of a rabbi.

Yeah. And so after that, then I think it cuts to, we're at the family house now in the morning and it's Clyde is like, you know, got his glasses on, just woke up making breakfast and the ex-wife, which we're getting his glasses on, just woke up making breakfast. And the ex-wife, which we're getting the vibe now that they are getting back together. They're like bonding in the kitchen. And it's like, oh, my God, that was so crazy. And he coughs and she's like, oh, shit, demon. Like, no, just oh, just a cough. OK, cool.

Funny inside joke to have as a family. Right. Yeah. Real fun. Remember when my yeah real fun and then he gets a call or he calls i forget um he's on the phone with zadik who's driving driving clyde's car uh back to new york which yeah and he says i need to figure out how to get your car back to you and clyde says, just keep it. I'm not going anywhere. Which is like a crazy thing to say. Keep it.

He's got the box with him. Yeah, like, thanks. This is good. A barter system, like a car for an exorcism. Thanks. Yeah, yeah. I guess. All right. He's got the box sitting next to him in the driver's seat or the passenger seat and he's like i think clyde asks him what are you gonna do with it

and he's just like i'm gonna put it somewhere where it's you know we don't ever have to worry about this happening again and then um he hangs up the phone and then a semi comes and smashes the side of the car absolutely demolishingishing it. Goodbye, Zadok. And then we see... Oh no, Zadok! Bye-bye. And we see the car completely demolished. People are running over like, oh my god, what happened? And then

we see the box is nice and safe on the side of the street, ready to be picked up by somebody new. Oh my god. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah. Is that the end of the movie? Yeah. The end. God damn it.

Somewhere a little Polish whispering or maybe even singing a little song, a little creepy lullaby. Cute. No, the rabbi died. I'm so sad. I know. What a bummer, right? What a bummer.

He was the hero of the story. He's, what are we going gonna do next time there's a possession whoa that was great really fun really fun but yeah i'm dying to hear more about what you read about the true story can you tell us a little bit about the okay yeah the og so i actually when i was looking i think the first time i watched it was on netflix or something years ago and when i was looking to re- it, it was kind of nowhere. And so I was like, okay, I'm not going to buy a Cinemax. But like, I was thinking too, like who has Cinemax?

Yeah, it was, it was under some like Hulu plus like bonus package, but I didn't even know Cinemax was still a thing. So I was like, okay, it's, you know, six bucks to buy it. I like it enough to throw it on in the background just for a relaxing evening. So I'll buy it. And they, they had, um, they have some extras on there. So I went in and one of them is like a documentary about the real box and it's, it's short. It's like a 15 15 minute bit but we get to see the original person who bought it like the Clyde type character and then the person who currently owns it and we

see that actual box as well and where it's kept and then there's also there's also a really interesting story about Post Malone and this box, which is funny. Whoa. What? Yeah. Random. Was he possessed? What if he may be cursed? He, there are thoughts that he was cursed after an interaction with the box, but my God, basically this guy, um, he got this, this box, I believe from a, like a yard sale. And, um, it, it didn't look all complicated. It was like kind of like a,

I guess it was supposed to be like a wine box, but it is some kind of significance to Jewish culture where you open it and like all the bits open at the same time. So the light of God can, you know, be equally dispersed upon the contents of the box. So it's kind of got some cool little trapdoor action happening. He gets it, brings it home and weird shit immediately starts happening where the mother, his mother, she touched it and she immediately had a stroke. Which is kind of like what happened to the lady in the beginning of the movie. Like that actually happened.

So she had a stroke. All these people in the house, the guy himself as well, started having like weird health problems and just weird stuff happening. So they basically tried to give the box back to the family like, oh, we must have bought this on accident or something like that. And they didn't want it back. So weird stuff started happening. the box and is trying to really understand like the background on it and the, you know, all this stuff. And then all this creepy shit starts happening in his house. So he ends up taking the box and knows it's got some demonic shit going on. He's tested it for all these different things. Like, could it be, I don't know, but there's no weird poison or, or like toxic anything on this box. He's tested it and swapped it and done all the things. So it's just a wooden box. So he ends up taking it and putting it in the basement of a house.

He owns next door to his house. And is like, you know, I'm going to put it here. It'll be safe and safe and locked down here. Nobody will be able to touch it. It'll be fine. Nobody else will have any more problems. So he goes down to check on this box at some point, like weeks later, a month later, I think it was like weeks later and the entire box like or the wall next to the box is covered with like hundreds of these centipedes like these centipede looking things all congregating around it almost like they're kind of basking in the energy of it and he had never seen bugs like this ever and so he's like yeah centipedes are gross those are

particularly gross yeah so not one in that area let alone hundreds all just like in this little square next to the box it's so gross i fucking hate i'd be so stressed disgusting and then the whole basement is also covered in this weird like white film like almost like a white mold and there's pictures of all of this it's kind of like veining all around the the concrete walls all of the bugs in there like spiders were all covered and like it's like they were dead mid web building so all these spiders that look like they got hit with a like a fire extinguisher or something what the fuck yeah they're like, what the hell is that? So he ends up taking the box out and somehow I forget, gets a hold of some type of Jewish, somebody who scholar or something that knows more about this. And they basically tell him what he needs to do and like more about the box, it is a dybbuk box there's you know demon action blah blah blah so you need to seal it a certain way so he gets some kind of like sacred

wood like acacia wood has a box built and they the jewish scholar person told him it needs to be lined with 24 karat gold. I'm like, Ooh, this is real. Yeah. So that is going to really contain it. Extra, extra, extra. So he ends up having this box built and we see the box. He pulls it out and he opens the containing box. So we see like the gold inside of it. And then he ends up sealing it up and then putting it in the storage container putting

it away the whole basement that was all covered in white yuckiness that stuff was just magically gone after which like what the hell no way yeah that's insane super weird so yeah so he's like him and um like his health problems had gone away all the all the weird stuff went away basically once he put this in that gold magical box to contain it extra hard and as of the documentary that's where it still lived until someone until he sold it to this haunted museum in Las Vegas That is full of haunted bits Which I would love to go there But yeah, a little scary But I guess Post Malone went there with his friend

And this box is sitting in the middle of the room Not covered by all of its, you know Like do not touch action And I guess they're in this room and there's a security, there's security camera footage of this happening where his friend is touching the box, touching it. And Post Malone goes to grab his friend while he's touching it. Like, dude, come on.

So there was some, but after this, apparently there was like a really weird series of events with Post Malone where he had like a car accident and a something crash and this and that like back to back, really weird stuff that happened to him. Jesus. So they're assuming that he was cursed by kind of interacting with this box somehow. Yeah. I mean, when you hear based on a true story, you don't normally think of that being the story. It's usually like, yeah, there's a box.

Nothing's really ever happened with it. But, you know, like I feel like this is more than I'm used to being true. And apparently. Yeah, that's crazy. crazy like five days after they finished wrapping shooting the film their storage room where they were keeping all the props caught on fire and burned down um i hate to hear it when there's a curse on a film set never a good sign yeah oh my god no one go to that museum that museum is bad don't touch the box yeah Don't touch the box. Yeah. At least put it in one of those like those plexiglass, whatever, like where the Annabelle doll is like lock it down and do whatever you got to do.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Thank you guys so much. That was terrifying. I'm not going to think about it when I'm up in the middle of the night tonight. I'm not going to think about that box. But kittens, thank you so much. That was terrifying. I'm not going to think about it when I'm up in the middle of the night tonight. I'm not going to think about that box. But kittens, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. And will you please tell our listeners where they can find you and where they can check you out?

All the social medias. I am kittens. So like I am multiple baby cats. that's, that's kind of the main one. So all the other stuff is on there or you can go to kittens world.com. Great. Yeah. Well, thank you for joining us and thanks for having me. We like to end with a voice. I guess I'll just do a little demon voice whisper,

I guess. A whisper. A Polish demon whisper, maybe. I struggle to do the Polish part. It's going to have to be English, but I'll say from all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch. Goodbye. Bye. Hi, everybody. Goodbye! podcasts and on Spotify. You can also follow us on social media at TSDW podcast. We are on Instagram and Twitter. And if you want even more content, you can become a patron at patreon.com

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