Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE PURGE
Episode Date: November 4, 2020Government sanctioned violence, a family rich enough to insulate themselves, and some Trumpian/Manson-esque prep-school mother f*ckers - we're recapping The Purge! It's election week so we th...ought we would relax by talking about a rich white family that upholds a violent system with their complicity. In hindsight this might have not been a good idea. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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First up, we have our champions for actors rights. We have one new addition to the movement this
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This week we have
Andrew McDonough,
Julie Hoard,
SK, and William
Sisson.
I'm sorry if I'm saying that incorrectly. We don't know how to say names. Julie Horde, SK, and William Sisson. Or Sison.
I'm sorry if I'm saying that incorrectly.
We don't know how to say names.
It's been established.
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Henley.
And Sammy.
And you're listening to Too Scary.
Didn't Watch.
Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves.
I'm Emily. I'm too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I like watching scary movies, and I like telling Henley and Emily all about them and making them feel scared.
Yeah.
Yeah, she's good at it, too.
She's good at it.
She's good at it, man.
I'm just, I feel so crazy right now.
I just realized in doing this intro, knowing this is, you know, we obviously
record the podcast before it comes out. That's how time works. Yep. And it is very weird to be
sitting here thinking, I don't know what world this podcast will be released in. It's true.
I don't know what it will be. This is a post-election episode. Well, pre-election recording,
post-election release. And that is a weird place to be listeners when you're listening to this we don't know what's up and we still might know when it
comes out yeah we might not but we'll know more i mean we'll be who uh who even knows it's weird
i feel like i feel trapped in the past in this moment is that do you know what i mean
right i do like you're already you feel like your future self looking back on you right now,
being like, God, you don't even know.
Like you're so naive.
Like I can't go back and listen to
like the beginning of COVID episodes we did
because it's like, you don't even know.
Yeah, it is weird, isn't it?
And we'll always have those, which is kind of fun.
We'll always have this little time capsule.
Yeah, that's what this is.
Let's enjoy this moment a little bit longer.
Let's milk it, you know?
And hey, what's up with us?
Let's only talk about super inane things for this one.
So we can savor this moment.
A little change of pace.
A little bit longer.
I can certainly do that.
And I'm going to start by telling you guys about another podcast that I've been listening to that I'm very obsessed with.
If you are fans of The Bachelor slash Bachelorette, and if you like to hate watch it in particular, I got to recommend Game of Roses.
I have been binging it in a way that I don't think I've ever really binged a
podcast before. It's so funny and crazy. And it just like recaps The Bachelor as if it's a sport
and they're all making plays and like, but they also talk about Chris Harrison, like he's the
dark Lord and he demands blood sacrifices.
Sammy, this is perfect for you.
Oh, my God.
I love it.
It's so funny.
But it also talks about how everyone is complicit in like the racism and misogyny of The Bachelor.
They have a segment called Screams from the Pit where they like scream like, help me get out of here.
Like, I hate this franchise, but I'm obsessed with it.
And I'm complicit in it by doing this podcast.
Anyways, I think it's a really great podcast.
And I just if you like The Bachelor, I cannot recommend it.
Has it has it been around for a long time?
Like, do they have several seasons?
I think at least a year or two.
Yeah, I have a friend that had been trying to get me to listen to it for a while. And I've been like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I should have listened to him. And finally, I did. Honestly, I don't regret it. looking for podcasts that are not political podcasts because all i listen to are political
podcasts and i can't handle i can't handle that right now i will tell you they they do get quite
political there's they start with an opening segment that's called state of the world and
they tell they tell you why what's happening in the world is related to the bachelor because
america is a reality show honestly yes spot on spot Now more than ever, yeah. Spot on.
Spot on.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
My interest is officially peaked.
Thanks, Sammy.
You're welcome.
Wow.
What about you guys?
Well, I have watched not one, not two, but three scary movies this week.
Oh, my God. Emily, who the hell are you?
Who even am I?
Are you scared of scary movies anymore?
Just tell us. Are we going to have to cancel the pod?
Just tell us.
We're going to have to cancel the pod.
This is my announcement.
We're going to have to cancel the pod.
No.
Because I'll say this.
I'll say this.
I've only watched movies that we've done.
Or we also, one of them was we watched together
The Sixth Sense for the pod
And I'm so grateful
It was for our bonus episode
And I would not have ever watched it otherwise probably
But I fucking loved it
And it's really not that scary
So that was one of them
But then the other two
I watched are movies we've covered
So I felt a little more prepared going in because I'm like, I know what happens.
I know when I need to not look.
I watched Cabin in the Woods, which also really not that scary.
Truly, really not that scary.
Very manageable, I would say.
And then I watched It.
That's right.
I can't believe you watched It.
I know.
I had pitched a few possibilities to Joel to watch with me because obviously I can't believe you watched it. I know. I had pitched a few possibilities to Joel to watch with me because obviously I wasn't going to watch them alone.
And that was the scariest of the ones I pitched in that.
The one that he pitched.
I was a little bit like, okay.
And then it was real.
I loved it.
Do you agree that Pennywise is a sex symbol for our
time? No, I definitely don't.
I definitely don't. But I do
love Pennywise and I do agree that he's
funny and fun. Pennywise
is fun. He's having fun.
He's having a blast. He loves what he does.
He's a man who loves what he does
and you love to see it.
I love to watch
a man who loves what he does. I love to watch a man who loves what he does and you love to see it. And I, I love to watch a man who loves what he does.
I love to watch a man who loves what he does.
It's inspiring.
Be passionate about what you do.
Otherwise,
why do it?
and I,
I turned to Joel at one point and I said,
being scared is fun.
I like,
I know.
So pretty huge.
Um, I'm going to probably watch At least one more
Before Halloween
Because again recording in the past it is not yet Halloween
And I think
Just this is the first Halloween season where I've been
Like fully like we've been doing the podcast
For over a year now I'm like ready
I like scary movies even though I'm still
Scared of them I was also I'm trying to pick
Ones that are like scary But also even though I'm still scared of them I was also I'm trying to pick ones that are like
scary but also fun
like I'm still not ready to do like a
Babadook or something that like is also going
to make me sad yeah
there's like a certain kind of scary movie
that's like and also we're having fun you know like
like as Pennywise to have fun you know
yeah those are the ones that I'm
like ready to get started with
but it's a whole new world.
I almost watched Midsommar and I still might.
I think you should.
I think that is in a way fun.
I didn't think that it could be.
I also I did scream several times during it, even though I knew it was going to happen.
Those jump scares get you.
There's some jump scares for sure.
There are some jump scares.
Anyway, it's just
been a huge week for me.
Wow. Bravo. I'm so jealous
of you, Emily, and your newfound
bravery. Not only do we
not need to cancel the pod, you're saying
it's a huge public service
and... This podcast is a huge public
service. It enabled you to
level up your bravery and that's huge. That's huge. It enabled you to level up your bravery.
And that's that's huge.
That's huge.
It's opened a whole door of enjoyment for me.
And I'm so grateful.
That's what we like to call character development.
That's what we like.
That's what we like to call it.
Mm hmm.
You can do if you want.
If you if you would like, you can.
That's our thing.
But but anybody can sort of do it as well.
like you can that's sort of our thing but and but anybody can sort of do it as well um well i'm gonna i'm gonna blame my lack of character development on tim my fiance because he is so scared of scary
movies you guys like he's so scared of them so scared but he also just hates tension in any kind of film or tv show even if
it's like a comedy like even if it's like a meet the parents type of scenario or anything that
involves secondhand embarrassment he just feels it physically in his body and actually like
has to it's very affected by what he's seeing on the screen. He's not going to be watching the new
Borat, is what you're saying.
But he should. Everyone
should. I've heard it's so good.
You know what he did say? It's so good.
Because all of his friends watched it and have been talking about it
nonstop, so I think that we might watch
it.
I saw a little behind the
clip. Behind the clips.
Behind the scenes.
Behind the scenes clip
of a moment from
you haven't seen it so I won't spoil
it but like where he's like
fleeing for his life
after like as they are wrapping
up a segment because
that's the world we live in and he said this
is the first movie he's worn a bulletproof vest
like the whole time he was shooting
yeah like what he does is scary situation.
Fucking brave for real.
And he is a genius and incredible.
And we're so lucky.
Wow.
You should watch it.
OK, I will watch it.
I think I'm a little nervous to watch something like that, too.
But yeah, no, but I can handle it.
I have not a good one this week.
All I just, I just want to say that I was, I totally got played by Instagram advertising.
You know, it's bound to happen.
But I bought, I've been getting these fucking targeted ads for like six months.
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I'm just going to go for it.
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Is that what it is? And you're talking into your phone.
Is that what it is?
I think that's what it is.
But I've been getting them for so long.
But we do talk about hair a lot.
So that might be it.
But anyway, you basically you fill out a quiz online and it's everything from like your location where they try to try to figure out what your type of water you would have in
your location to see how that would affect your hair and what kind of chemicals you're exposed to
to try to really get you the most personalized shampoo and conditioner available. I know that
this is probably bullshit, everyone. Nonetheless nonetheless i have fallen for it i spent
way too much money on these two stupid bottles of shampoo and conditioner that are like they
have your name on them and they say like specialized specially formulated for henley
so now those are probably displayed in my shower and just a constant reminder that
advertising does
work. This episode
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Brought to you by pros. If we keep
saying we have sponsors, eventually we will.
Right? That's how that works? And also
I like reverse. Yeah, the reverse
psychology of talking
about in a negative way
will make you want to buy it.
Anyway, I'll keep you guys updated on whether
it works or not because I'm sure some of our
listeners are getting these ads too.
Now they definitely will. Sorry, guys.
All right. Well, because
this week is
a big week in politics,
American politics, American politics.
We decided to kind of go with the theme a bit and do The Purge this week, which came out in 2013, written and directed by James DiMonaco, starring Ethan Hawke, Lena Headey, Max Burkholder, Adelaide Kane, Edwin Hodge, and Reese Wakefield.
I did not know Lena Headey was in this movie.
She's so great.
She's so great. This would have been a huge
year for her, I feel like, in general.
Peak Game of Thrones
money. This is Cersei at her finest.
Before they let her down
so bad.
This has been such a successful franchise,
right? I mean, it's another one where they've made
like a thousand of them.
Is that true? Are there only like three?
Three or four? There are some.
There are some.
There's three sequels,
The Purge Anarchy, The Purge
Election Year, and The First Purge.
And there is one more
on the way called The Forever
Purge. The Forever Purge.
Yeah, I guess
maybe it's because there have been so many.
I don't think I realized it went this far back.
Like 2013 feels less recent
than I thought this movie was.
Right.
Yeah, it's forever ago, seems like.
Yeah, when you said 2013
it was like pre the 2016 election.
What even is this?
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And wow, I'm sure we need a drink now more than ever.
This week's drink is the American Breakfast.
For this drink, you will need half an ounce of maple syrup,
two ounces of bourbon whiskey, and half an ounce of pink grapefruit juice.
You'll shake all ingredients with ice and strain into an ice-filled glass and garnish with a grapefruit zest twist.
A perfect drink for the morning after a long night of purging or staying up to watch election results.
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some trivia for you some some numbers for you we got numbers we got a budget of three mil
pretty small budget uh it made 89 million million. Not bad, not bad.
Not bad.
This movie is, I believe,
either the worst
reviewed or second worst reviewed
of the Purge movies, which is kind of unusual.
The sequels
get better, which
I had seen this movie before.
I must have
seen it closer to when it came out.
And I remember being like, what a great premise that like kind of felt like a forgettable film.
Oh, interesting.
I thought people loved it.
But do they love the sequels?
I think election year is is the consensus that that is the best one.
And that would have been appropriate we should
have done that one sorry as i was watching it i was like damn it um that's kind of weird to jump
into the third movie i guess so oh well but um this one there are good parts of it and i and i
think the acting is great ethan hawking and Lena Heddy are great.
It just could have said more
than I feel like it did.
Maybe the later ones do, though. I think they might.
But so
the director, James DeMonaco,
said that he got the... Wait, is that how you pronounce
it? Sorry. James De... I thought it was...
I just read it really fast. We don't know how to pronounce names
on this pod. Don't ask me. I thought it was I just read it. We don't know how to pronounce names on this pod. Don't ask
me. I would say James
DeMonaco. Well, you know, one of our
favorite things on the pod here is to mispronounce
director's names. It's one of our
we love to do it. Also
just pulling this up. God, I forgot
about these fucking
masks. Nasty.
You know what? There's like a thing about like a hard
plastic mask that's like
Very freaky
A soft mask is somehow less freaky
Like a hard
Mask I don't know
I don't love it
It's like
It's freaky
I don't love it either
Give me a soft mask any day of the week
A soft mask or no mask please
god i've been saying it for years
um but okay so his wife uh or so how he got the idea was that him and his wife were
driving on the freeway and a drunk driver pulled uh cut them off in such a way that almost like became real close to to crashing into them and
potentially killing them and they had to pull over and um the director like confronted him
and obviously the guy's drunk and so had no remorse and he said he was so mad and they
they got into a fist fight oh my god um God. I guess while they were leaving, his wife said, if only you could just have one free murder a year.
Which is a crazy thing to admit.
That's how I got the idea for this movie is because my wife is pro purging.
I got into a fist fight with a drunk stranger and then my wife wanted to murder him and I wrote a movie.
Yeah, I think that's a bit of my problem with the movie is that there's a bit of a tone deafness of like the protagonists are rich and white and I don't know. There's this kind of thing of
I feel like
rich white people writing
empathetic rich white
characters and redeeming them in a way that
I feel like we don't need.
Yeah, we sort of definitely don't need that
right now. No, we have enough
stories like that. Yeah.
So, just like
constant, constant empathy building for stupid
rich white people is what our culture is right like best just like normal rich white people
completely average yeah like completely un-extraordinary rich white heroes like okay
um and this i just wrote down is totally stupid, but in the
IMDB trivia, it said the security
code is 101382,
which is like, is
that trivia? Do those numbers mean
something that I'm not catching on to?
Yeah. What is trivia
according to this?
It just kind of made me laugh in the way
that sometimes the trivia is like the make and
model of the cars. It's just like saying like a very it just kind of made me laugh in the way that sometimes the trivia is like the make and model
of the cars it's just like saying like a very specific fact of the movie so listeners you're
welcome to know that the security code is 101382 you're welcome to know it. But that's all I got. So let's watch this freaking trailer.
Let's watch it.
Ooh, let's do it.
Tonight allows people a release.
For all the hatred and violence that they keep up inside them.
Why don't you guys kill someone tonight?
Because we don't feel the need to, Johnny.
Just remember all the good the Purge does.
We'll be fine just like always. No worries, okay? Because we don't feel the need to, Johnny. Just remember all the good the Purge does.
We'll be fine just like always. No worries, okay?
This is your emergency broadcast system announcing the commencement of the annual Purge.
At the siren, all emergency services will be suspended for 12 hours.
Your government thanks you for your participation.
Help me!
Someone, please, help me!
I just need to get somewhere safe.
Is anybody here?
Let's go!
This way!
Charlie, no!
This way, hurry!
Why did you let him in our home? We have no idea who's after him. This way! Charlie! No! This way, hurry!
Why did you let him in our home? We have no idea who's after him.
Our target for this year's Purge is hiding in your home.
You have one hour to find him and get him to us,
or we'll kill all of you.
They can't get in here, right?
They can't get into our home.
We're gonna make it through tonight and everything is gonna be okay nothing is ever going to be okay again
wait this is what this movie is about holy shit i did not know what this movie is about?
Holy shit.
I did not know what this movie was about.
What did you think it was about?
I thought it was going to be about like, I thought it was going to be about disparate
groups throughout the night.
I didn't know it was focusing on one family's experience.
Same.
That is also news to me.
I think in the later iterations it does expand and i think
that was a budgetary thing that they didn't have the money to kind of make it um as broad as the
director had hoped um and i think maybe that's why they get better later on as well i also didn't
know that the whole conceit is that america like a safe, happy place now because of this.
Everyone gets to murder each other for one night only.
It's like that is literally not how conflict works.
Conflict happens in the moment when there's conflict happening.
Not because people just have murderous energy that they need to let out once a year.
Oh, I'm good now.
I also I am sure you'll explain this, Sammy,
because that's the movie.
But it's so wild to be like,
we have one target for the Purge
and if we can't kill him,
we can't, like, what?
Like, the people spend a whole,
I thought it was going to be more just like,
we're going to go murder people
because it's the Purge being like,
I can't wait till that one day a year
when I can murder this one guy who I've really wanted to murder.
And there's like sort of there's sort of some explanation.
We'll get there.
But yeah, I mean, I think overall it's like such a it's a really good concept.
And it like it's scary as hell.
And I feel like it could it could be a lot better than it is.
But it's fun and i fucking
love home invasion movies and i am a fan of the you know average family this is not an average
family they are very rich very rich very well it did make me think of again we said we were
going to be light but but i was very reminded of like this this family being like, don't worry about the purge.
It's fine.
We'll lock down our whole house of Trump being like, don't worry about COVID.
You'll be fine because I had this like unattainable medical treatment.
But like you normal people, you're fine.
Right.
Like, oh, this is triggering that the idea is like you're totally fine if you have a
huge mansion that you can just literally lock.
Yeah, exactly. the idea is like you're totally fine if you have a huge mansion that you can just literally lock yeah exactly there's like so much to comment on like um class and the wealth gap and capitalism
and this like complicit being complicit in like a violent system because you're exempt from it
yeah because you can afford to protect yourself and it's like there's a lot of really cool things
that it is trying to comment on and
i don't think it does quite as good of a job as as you want it to but i'm really it made me want
to watch the sequels and stuff when i read that those actually take the criticisms in and kind of
get better and they do apparently get better as they go on. Also, hey, something to be said for like taking the note.
That's cool. People don't often
do that. Go like, oh, I hear you so I can make it
better in this way. I guess I'll try.
That's cool. Most people
I feel like are like, fuck you. It's
great. I'll show you why it's great. I'll do it even
more.
So that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Oh, I'm excited to
hear about it. What's that's pretty cool. Oh, I'm excited to hear about it.
What's that actor from?
Ethan Hawke?
Yeah, him.
The kid.
The girl?
The boy, the little boy.
You guys don't recognize him?
No.
I don't even remember that there was a little boy.
He's like a main character in the trailer.
Really?
Do you guys have child blindness?
I have child blindness.
I'm sorry, Simi, do you mean the adult?
I only saw adults.
The kid who lets the other guy in the house.
I thought that was a girl.
That's a boy.
Is it a boy?
It is a boy.
There's a boy and a girl.
It's your standard nuclear family do i have boy blindness i think you have a mixture of child blindness and boy blindness
you know it's common i saw a movie full of adult women i don't know what we're talking about All right, you guys ready? I'm fucking ready. I was born ready.
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Let's do this.
Okay, so we start, as we saw in the trailer, we get some text that tells us we are in America.
The year is 2022.
Oh, God.
Yeah, two years from now, folks.
Okay.
I hate it.
Unemployment is at 1%.
Crime is at an all-time low.
Violence barely exists.
Except for, and then a quote comes up and says blessed be the new founding fathers
for letting us purge and cleanse our souls blessed be america a nation reborn
and then we cut to kind of a montage of security camera footage of all of them have like time
stamps and a little lower third that says the purge feed
so we're seeing previous purges and it's people just going nuts in the streets um beating people
up stabbing people shooting people you see there's one of like seems like a guy walking in to kill into kill his boss um uh just like complete mayhem and this is so deeply unrealistic to me
i'm sorry you're having a big problem with the psychology of it i'm having a huge problem right
off the bat i think it feels a little too there's something already that feels a little too real
about it being america like a dystopian american feels very, very real to me right now, especially because we're in one and we're not doing
the purge. Yeah.
Yeah. And there's so much. I mean, I think
the fact that so many people own guns
is very scary and all that.
But I think when you get down to it, like
most people don't want to murder someone else.
I mean, no one really wants to have to do that.
But anyway, sorry, I'll
shut up now. I think you're probably right. Most people don't
want to just like...
But I guess if enough people do...
Like it catches on?
Like mob mentality?
Yeah, I guess if it's just enough.
Emily, you're going on the books as pro-purge?
I'm going on the books as pro-purge!
I'm going on the books as pro-purge.
Henley, would it help if you thought of it as a metaphor
of how the rich ruling class is killing poor people?
Oh, is that mostly what's happening?
Are rich people killing poor people in the movie?
That's what we see in this movie.
Oh, well, then that works perfectly.
Yeah, I mean, that checks out a lot.
In a less direct way, I will say that that is a real thing.
That tracks perfectly.
It's just not only once a year.
It's constant.
It's constant.
Capitalism is evil.
The wealth gap is growing.
Guys, I just read the average.
If the average American spending $1
is equivalent to Jeff Bezos spending $ 1.96 million dollars just to put in
perspective oh my god let's just purge jeff bezos yeah let's a single purge so we've set up our our
world this is american 2022 and we then meet our protagonist ethan Hawke. His name is James.
He's driving home in some fancy car in his fancy suit with his hair all slicked back, talking on his car phone.
This is a rich guy driving into his gated neighborhood,
and he's listening to a news broadcast on the radio,
and it's kind of like a conservative news host type
thing. Someone is calling in
saying like the poor can't afford to protect themselves
like this isn't fair, this isn't right
and the host saying like
we're all entitled to our own
opinions like next caller
that kind of thing. We're getting a lot of like heavy
handed little things happening.
Why don't they just become rich?
Yeah, just be rich.
You guys, pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
Just be rich.
God, it pisses me off.
I was getting pretty mad yesterday
reading fucking Jeff Bezos statistics.
Oh, but it's not just Jeff Bezos, folks.
It's the whole damn system.
Anyways, so he has just
pulled off some
some great deal at work
he's talking to his secretary
she's like oh we've sealed the deal on
I don't know a hundred more alarm systems
so he sells
security systems
which come in quite handy
on purge night
yeah the plot thickens here.
Really benefiting from the current system.
Seriously.
Yep.
Yep.
And as he is driving, we see his neighbors putting out flowers.
And everyone's putting out flowers in their front yards.
And we learn that that is how they show their support for this beloved evening.
So it's kind of like a support the troops type thing of like, yeah, the purge, like the thing that saved America and like made our country great again.
That's another wild thing about the movie is that everyone's just on board for this being like the righteous good thing.
We're all complicit yeah um so he's having a great old time he's just made a whole bunch more money
off these security systems drives home um we've got an hour to go before the purge, annual purge commences. And he gets home. Lena Headey is
his wife. Her name is Mary. He has two kids, Zoe and Charlie. I'd say Charlie's about 13,
Zoe probably 16. I feel pretty good about those age guesses.
Sounds good to me.
And Henley, you're not going to like this part. There is a news
broadcast on the TV that has an interview with some sort of doctor who is explaining the like
psychology of it, the physiology of how the purge works. And he says, this countrywide catharsis
lets us release the aggression we all have inside ourselves. That's why we're able to then,
aggression we all have inside ourselves that's why we're able to then i guess for the rest of the year all live in happy harmony peaceful gotta trust him where'd this doctor come from what
are these what are these doctors credentials huh okay so we go upstairs and meet his daughter Zoe. Her boyfriend Harry, or Henry maybe, is over.
And they're making out.
You can tell he's like, I don't think they know that he's there.
Their house is massive, by the way.
They have like a huge mansion.
It's in a gated neighborhood.
They're very rich.
And so it's like her boyfriend can be in the house and
nobody knows because it has separate wings for each of them or whatever so she says to him oh
you like you gotta go you gotta go home before lockdown like remember the fucking purge is
happening tonight like you should go it's night to be like flirting with the curfew yeah um and so he goes to sneak
out of her balcony and as they're on the balcony they see her neighbor right next door is like
sharpening a machete in his backyard and he like makes a comment like looks like your neighbors
are planning to have some fun tonight this is all just very normalized that this is this is the world that we live in and then we see mary go outside to i don't
know take out the trash or something and she runs into uh the woman that lives next door her name is
grace and grace is like the very like um fake like blonde curled hair this big smile brings her cookies and is like hi mary like
have any plans for the purge tonight what this is so wild the fact that people would adjust
this quickly i mean i guess it's possible well i think it's it's in the uh in this world it has
been happening for quite a while. Oh, I see.
There is a movie called The First Purge that goes back in time.
So it's not clear how many years this has been going on, but this is, I think, a long-held tradition.
And we don't know the origin of when it started yet or anything like that, like why it started.
Okay.
No.
But I think, I mean, I guess our only hint to it is that in the opening text, it says,
blessed be the new founding fathers.
And so it seems like there was some like government party that took control and like implemented
this policy.
So, okay.
So Mary's talking to Grace and Grace makes like a shitty comment about like, oh, your new add on like James must have sold so many security systems to the whole neighborhood that he could afford this new addition to your house, which is like, okay, I don't know why you're commenting on it. clearly miffed that they're more rich than her i guess and that because kind of rich from her that
she bought something from them mary asks her are you having your annual purge party and she says
oh not tonight i think we're just gonna stay home watch some purge coverage what about you they're having their purge goss and so mary goes back inside and we see a creepy ass
toy rolling around on the ground that is like a baby head that's half melted and burned kind of
like from it looks like something out of toy story like one of the bad toys and toy story type thing
and it's rolling around and we see it's pov like there's a video
camera inside of it and it sneaks up on mary and she looks down and it's like charlie come on like
get ready for dinner and we see that the son charlie has like rigged up this little toy to
be able to he controls it and can see through the video camera in it that's gonna come in handy
later i bet that will come back i bet it does um then charlie comes downstairs they're kind of
getting ready for dinner and he has a little moment with his mom where he pulls out a little
notebook where he writes down his heart rate and blood pressure. Like he has a little anxiety and OCD type of thing.
And he's like,
I've been having some variations in my blood pressure,
mom.
And she's like,
what's wrong,
honey?
Is it,
is it tonight?
Is it tonight?
That's stressing you out.
Like,
duh,
it's the fucking nationwide purge.
That's stressing out your son when it's legal to kill people for 12 hours.
Yeah.
So, um, he seems to be the only one who gets it. He's the only one that's like, It's legal to kill people for 12 hours. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
So.
He seems to be the only one who gets it.
He's the only one that's, like, bothered by it.
Mm-hmm.
And they're having a nice little family dinner.
And then the clock strikes seven, time for lockdown. They go into their main security room where there's like security cameras set up everywhere.
They type in, I don't know, one zero one three eight six or whatever.
And there it is.
And lock it down.
James pulls out a gun from a lockbox.
The daughter, I feel Zoe,, looks kind of nervously.
And he's like, you know, it's only, you know, just in case.
Just in case.
We're going to be fine.
Just in case.
And as the kind of metal walls are coming down, they're looking through the security cameras and seeing their neighbors kind of going out in the streets in their in
their purge outfits and there's kind of a funny line where he's like oh i didn't know they were
in a purge together are they friends like like seeing like two of your neighbors heading out
to go kill people together or whatever oh he's feeling left out and um mary sees that the bitchy neighbor, Grace, is actually going out to purge.
And she's like, she told me she was staying in tonight.
We get the feeling they're not well liked in the neighborhood.
They're not invited to these purge parties.
Uh oh.
And then we get the emergency broadcast system saying this is the commencement of the annual purge.
We are informed that government officials of level 10 and higher have been granted immunity from the purge.
Shocker.
You cannot harm a government official.
And there will be no emergency services for the next 12 hours.
So the purge runs from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m.
Better not have any other like non-unrelated emergency on that night.
You better not.
So, okay, so that's interesting.
You can't call like 911 or get help or have the police interview or anything.
That makes sense, I guess. But God, okay.
James turns to his kids and says,
we can afford protection.
There's no reason to be afraid.
We're rich, kids.
We don't have to be scared.
Money protects us.
Okay.
And then Charlie asks them,
why don't you do it?
Why aren't you killing someone tonight, mom and dad?
Clearly, he understands the morals behind this and is trying to reckon with his parents supporting this evening.
And they sit him down and they're like you know this this works this we
don't feel the need to personally do it but some people do and that's what makes our country safe
and that's what protects us this made our country a better place and if we did feel the need we would
they're complicit yeah and also like teaching your kids it's a whole system of like
teaching your kids to shut off that natural empathy that they have of being like yep telling
them basically gaslighting your children into being like no you're wrong your feelings are wrong. This system's great. It's good for all of us.
Ugh.
I hate it.
Then we see Zoe going back to her room.
And there's a jump scare.
Someone grabs her from behind. And it's her boyfriend, Henry, who hid in the closet or whatever.
And they start kissing again and hooking up.
they start kissing again and hooking up and
she says
like they're getting
they're getting pretty close to doing it
and he says I can't do this
I didn't come here to see you
and she says what
and he
says I came here to see your dad
I came here to see your
dad and tell him that our age
difference is not a problem which is is a very cool, cool thing to say.
So so he's a lot older than her. Well, here's the thing is they don't he doesn't look older.
And actually, the actor, the actress is older than the actor.
So it's like weird casting for this moment to really land in the way that I think it might on the page.
weird casting for this moment to really land in the way that I think it might on the page.
Right, right.
But yeah, theoretically, he's a lot older than or like, I don't know, in college and she's in high school or something.
Okay, got it.
We hear one more clip on the news that says purging the non-contributing members of society
brings down crime.
And so that's why the economy is flourishing so there's this comment
literally is killing poor people it's literally killing poor people this comment of like
dehumanizing poor people dehumanizing homeless people that's a very real thing that happens
in our world currently um so this whole like first
act like all this setup is so great
like it like at this point
we're feeling like this movie has a lot of potential
okay
and so okay so
now we're locked
down Charlie's by himself in the security
room he's clearly very anxious
and he sees on the security camera
a man screaming for help
and nobody's around and he's looking kind of looking for help and this man is screaming like
why won't anybody help me someone help me and charlie panics presses the disarm button lifts up
the the metal walls that are closing in the house and like calls out to him
like come in here come in here and um the man runs in and he closes he uh james like sees that
this is happening he's like what's happening uh runs in presses the arm button again so the things
come back down so the guy has to like slide under to
get in he gets in at the last second they all kind of freeze now they're all in the same room like in
the entryway um the guy's like frozen in fear because keep in mind it's still legal for them
to kill him tonight any like right you can't trust anybody on the night of the purge um so he kind of freezes in fear and um at this moment
henry walks down the stairs he's this is when he chooses he's going to confront james about the age
difference between him and his daughter and um so james for a moment is distracted, looks up at the stairs and Henry pulls out a gun and shoots
James, shoots at James, misses him. James has the gun in his hand because he pulled his gun from
the security room and shoots back up at Henry. They're all like screaming. There's this big
like commotion moment. Everyone's screaming. There's like a lot of gunshots and Henry and
Zoe run back upstairs
for cover and when james turns back around the bloody stranger is gone whoa okay so much for
confronting him so that's really why he wanted to stick around for the purge he's trying to kill him
for free dad oh my god you really think that zoe's still gonna want to be with you after you murder
her dad
Also are you then gonna have to kill the whole family
Cause you're like locked in their house with them
The man's not thinking
He didn't think it through
So okay
So yeah there's been this whole hubbub
James is panicked
He's like where's Zoe I gotta find Zoe
She's with Henry
I guess and Henry's got a gun.
That's not safe.
Runs upstairs.
And we see Zoe crying over Henry.
And he is dead.
He has died.
He got shot.
James shot him.
Okay.
And then we see through the security footage a big old group of people. very Manson-y vibe, girls in long white dresses.
The guy's also in suits.
It's like a Trump Manson vibe, I'd say.
They roll up to the house and they're in those hard masks.
You hate to see it.
I hate to see it.
They're so shiny and gross.
Yeah, they're like big, structured masks.
The cheekbones on these masks.
The cheekbones, man.
And there's kind of a leader guy, and he takes off his mask and looks right into the front door security camera and addresses them directly. They turn on
the volume so the whole family inside can hear. And he has a big smile on his face the whole time.
I will say this actor does a good job of channeling this character and says,
we are some fine, young, very educated guys and gals ready to violate, annihilate and cleanse our souls.
The man you are sheltering is a dirty homeless pig who doesn't know his place.
He killed one of us.
And so we need to purge him, return him to us alive so we may purge.
We don't want to hurt our own and they basically say like we're
gonna go get backup reinforcements like a a truck with a chain to be able to like pull down your
security system and like you have that amount of time to surrender this man or we'll kill all of
you once we like break down your front door.
God.
Fuck.
This really is, yeah, it really is killing the poor.
I also didn't realize that about this movie. Yeah, also, not unlike Saw, being like, you've got a choice.
Mm-hmm.
Yuck.
Ugh.
Ugh.
So they cut the power also.
So now all the lights are off. Never good.
The lights are off.
And Mary kind of turns to James and is like, well, they can't do that, right?
Like, you built these security systems.
Like, we're safe.
Like, they can't break into them.
And he's kind of like, um, like, they're pretty safe.
Like, 99% safe.
But they're not impenetrable.
Um, like, i feel like or he says things like this
aren't supposed to happen in our neighborhood wow so he's been selling some faulty shit as well
that might not be as safe as it seems. To top it all off. Fucking A.
Capitalism without guardrails, man.
It is a dangerous situation.
And we're living it, folks.
We're gonna see the negative outcome.
Oh my God.
That is real.
So,
James is pretty quickly like, we gotta find that man we gotta throw him out and charlie is like you're just gonna throw him out to die and he's like yeah it's him or us
um that's the way it is and sorry we gotta go find him and throw him out and save ourselves
and so they all
kind of separate Charlie goes into his room
and pulls out his little
remote
control car for his
little melted baby head
toy and
directs it to kind of search
for the stranger
and finds him.
And you see the POV of the stranger who's like, what the fuck?
Like, what is this?
And he somehow he like blinks.
It has like a like a flashlight on it and it blinks it at him in a way that I guess conveys like, follow me.
OK. in a way that i guess conveys like follow me okay and so the stranger follows this little toy to a a false back of a closet and so there's like a hiding spot for him to hide in
and he kind of like looks at the at the dawn is like thank you hides in there
oh i just i it's very good but i'm also like what does this kid think is gonna happen
like where what is his end game here it's all gonna work out it's all gonna be fine
i don't think that it is emily it could um okay so so he's hiding in the hiding spot and james and
mary have split up each of them have a gun now they're looking for him and mary goes into the
room that he that the stranger is in and hears something and gets really close like hears it
from the closet it's a tense moment she's walking towards it and then she pulls back
all the clothes in the closet doesn't see anything and and then hears a noise and somewhere else in
the house and leaves the room so he's safe for now the stranger and then I guess enough time has gone by that the lead rich kid outside knocks on the front door.
And James comes and kind of has like one of those little eye slits that he pulls open.
And he basically, again, is like, you know, tick tock, like clock is ticking.
Like, why haven't you given him yet?
And he's like, we're looking for him we can't find him and then uh one of the other members of his
crew pops up behind and is like give it to us now we're gonna fucking kill you and and the lead guy
shoots that guy in the head and then looks in the eye hole and says, he was my friend. You are not.
What?
Psycho.
You better move fast.
What the fuck?
Jeez.
This guy is not good.
This guy sucks.
This guy sucks.
God.
So then it's all dark.
Everyone's kind of in the halls, like, searching. A lot of, like, you know, we can't really tell what's going on.
And then all of a sudden, the bloody stranger.
That's how he's credited in the credits.
That's what I'm going to refer to him as.
found zoe and the gun that henry had and walks into the hallway holding zoe hostage basically like holding a gun to her head and comes face to face with james and he's like i'm not fucking
dying tonight like don't move like i'm not going out there like just drop it like this isn't going
to happen if you try to do that i'm going to kill your daughter i'm not going out there like just drop it like this isn't gonna happen if you try to do
that i'm gonna kill your daughter i'm not fucking dying tonight and then we see um mary coming up
behind him with a gun and so and james clocks mary and is like you are gonna die tonight you're either gonna die a coward uh here or you can die like a man and like not
kill my whole family with you and then he says shoot him mary and the stranger turns around sees
mary uh throws zoe up against the wall kind of knocking out, just like there's like a commotion. And he throws her.
She gets knocked unconscious.
James kind of lunges at the stranger, knocks him down, knocks him unconscious.
He like throws a vase at his head, knocks him out, too, and is like, get some tape.
Tie him up, tie him up, tie him up.
Charlie's in the hall now, too, watching his parents like beat and tie up this man.
Oh, my God. out to watching his parents like beat and tie up this man oh my god and um so they get him like
half tied up but then he wakes back up and is like thrashing and ethan ethan hawk is like holding him
holding his top half but his legs are like kicking and he says mary press into his wound so he has been he has been shot or something or
perhaps stabbed already and he has a stomach wound that we can see exposed this is like he was already
bloody before he came in so this is a previous wound that the people outside did to him and
yeah uh james is just like like press his wound grab the letter opener
and press it into his wound what the fuck i hate this and i hate it charlie again is watching and
um mary looks like she really doesn't want to do it but she does she grabs that letter opener and she stabs him in the wound not just
presses it to it she straight up like stabs him he's screaming they like oh my god emily is hating
this it's really bad it's very bad um charlie is screaming crying mom stop stop and um you see
the daughter is awake now kind of silently, which is a really weird moment.
She's like still pretending to be asleep.
And it's like, why?
I don't know.
It was weird.
I wrote it down because it was weird.
Okay.
So they get through hurting him, get him subdued and tie him up completely and kind of time to a chair.
get him subdued and tie him up completely and kind of time to a chair.
And he gives this,
like James is like,
you did the right thing.
Mary did the right thing.
And the stranger gives Mary this fucking death stare.
That was just so good.
This actor,
I feel like I felt it in my bones. He looks like,
Ooh, he hates her so much.
And she looks really ashamed.
She's really ashamed of what she has done,
as she should be.
As she should be.
And she says to James, look at this man.
Look what we're doing to him.
This is so wrong.
Yeah, it is wrong.
And so Zoe wakes up, or she's been awake silently crying and pretending to be
asleep or whatever for some reason and she says look at what you're doing nothing is ever and
james says you know it's all gonna it's gonna be okay it's gonna be okay and she says nothing will
ever be okay again which is a great line and also a line that was in the rental the rental
yeah some hey man some bells cannot be unwrung it does not matter what happens next life does
not go back to normal after this nope um so zoe is is crying charlie's crying these kids are traumatized the bloody stranger has gotten
out he's they had like to put duct tape over his mouth he's kind of wiggled out of it somehow
and he looks at them and says like save your children take me. He's he's resigning to this, which is like so sad.
I don't like it.
I just don't know.
I just don't like it.
It's like a it's like a like a tool for these people's redemption.
And yeah, I just don't think he's he's he needs to sacrifice himself.
I'm rooting more for him than I am for them at this point of the movie.
Of course. We all
are. Are we supposed to be
rooting for them? Does that feel like what we're supposed to be doing?
Well, that was like part
of the big criticisms
of this movie was that the protagonists are
not super likable or empathetic
and
my guess is that
the director is't fully know that and yeah yeah yeah like
didn't notice yeah it wasn't necessarily an intentional choice it was like well this is
what's happening yeah yeah and it just feels a little tone deaf to me where it just is it's just
not very interesting also as a storyline of just like
let's like redeem these shitty people who don't really deserve it and i feel like movies love
doing that for white people do you guys like they really do remember in three bill did you guys see
three billboards out of outside of ebbing missouri i did not have any interest in seeing it.
I didn't see it.
Well, they also, I feel like movies sometimes do this thing where they make a white character like super racist
and then give them this big redemption arc
and they're the protagonist of the movie.
And by the end, they're the hero.
And it's like, I don't think it really works like that
in like a two hour movie that you can like.
I'm not racist anymore.
Right.
It just always kind of rubs.
Remember my whole life of being racist?
Not anymore.
I do think that I do think that people can change, obviously, and people can have their eyes opened to their actions.
Sure.
sure but it's just it's just shitty when like they don't actually they haven't actually like done anything to deserve the redemption really or the what they've done is like so surface level
placing a point in our minds to be like oh yay applause applause applause
as opposed to like right yes um but okay so now time's up and the rich kids outside have their reinforcements like a big old truck with like a chain on a hook on a chain that they can break this security door right off.
they do and they break in and
the doors open and so now everybody
is
coming in
and have like a little family huddle
and everyone gets a gun
and he says
Charlie go hide in the basement
and Mary's like
what are we going to do what are we going to do
and James says we're going to fight
oh my god Charlie is not going to do? What are we going to do? And James says, we're going to fight.
Oh, my God.
Charlie is not going to be OK after this.
But the whole family splits up, which is always an interesting choice.
And pretty quickly, Charlie gets found by one of the guys and he they they grab him by the leg. They're dragging him through the house he's screaming and crying and um he pulls up his like big ass machete about to drive it down into
charlie and then gets shot through the chest and we see that James has saved him.
Phew.
Phew.
Phew. Then we see Zoe hiding under her bed and a man walks into the room.
We see she's been so quiet under the bed and we see his feet right next to the bed pausing.
And he's like about to kneel down to look under the bed
and then we hear the the ringleader's voice yell out have you seen the daughter she's exquisite
like he must be looking at a family portrait in the hall or something and he says save her for me
and he says save her for me ew
yuck
yuck
um but so the guy that was standing
next to the bed walks out of the room at that
moment and we see
that James
has a fucking huge gun now cause
he has I guess he's taken
a gun off the guy that he killed
it's like a gun off the guy that he killed. The guy he killed. It's like a gigantic shotgun.
And so he's kind of patrolling the hallways looking for them.
And we see in another hallway a couple, like a woman on a man's back.
They're giggling, very Manson-y.
He he he.
Let's go find some people to kill.
And they go into a game room where there's a pool table and some pinball machines. And as they walk in, James also walks in and they see each other and they're all like, oh, fuck. And James shoots at them, misses them.
They run in the commotion.
The guy, the the the what do they call?
I think they're called the freaks is what they're like credited as.
It's like main freak and like freak number two.
So the two freaks, the guy freak like lunges at James, gets him in a headlock with his gun and is like choking him, choking him, choking him.
And then James grabs a pool ball from the pool table and like hits him in the head super hard and knocks him out for a second.
He collapses.
Then James is like scrambling to the other side of the room.
And the girl like jumps at him and screams in a way that's like,
yeah, so crazy, like a banshee.
And he grabs the gun and shoots her in the stomach midair.
So she gets like blown out of the air.
Whoa. It's air. Whoa.
It's wild.
And then the other guy that he had hit with the pool ball like comes to and is now pissed because he killed his girlfriend or whatever.
And so they get in a big fist fight.
And eventually James gets the upper hand and smashes his head a bunch of times into the pinball machine.
I guess killing him that way by blunt force trauma to the head.
Oh, my God.
But, you know, all this noise has attracted another of the freaks, another guy.
And he's he's carrying an axe. You hate to see it no no no and he gets in
and um they get in a fight and i guess the axe is dropped and they're like fist fighting back
and forth i can't totally remember but again, James gets the upper hand,
gets that axe and axes him straight in the back.
And this scene is like just a few minutes long
and it's just super violent, like back to back to back.
It's one of those like descent type scenes
where it's just like this, this like,
like letting loose and just fucking killing everybody and then yeah he's
killed everyone so he has that that feeling within him we are learning yeah he wants to be he wants
to be purging he wants he wants to be ready to be purging yeah oh having a family really held him
back you know what a family man he was such a family man but in his heart he just needed
to purge um but okay so he he's he's looking a little like scared at what he's done he's looking
at the three dead bodies on the floor and he he's he turns to leave the room and gets stabbed in the stomach by the lead freak.
Oh,
ouch.
Ouch.
Ouch.
Ouch.
And the lead freak just has a big old creepy smile on his face.
And it was like,
told you,
you should have fucking helped us.
Like now you're dead.
Getting stabbed in the stomach sounds like the worst
that would be I think it's one
I think it is one of the worst ways
to die I don't know why I feel like I
have heard that fact
that it's supposed to be incredibly
I think it takes a long time
it's like long enough for you to
really feel pain because I feel
like some things would be like too fast
for you to even register really notice it's happening yeah no um so yeah okay so he's not
dead yet because as we just said it takes a while um takes a while but okay so mary is alone in the
halls one of the freak girls pops out at her is like and grabs her and hit her and a guy freak i don't know
how to refer to them um but they like pin her down um like the girl sits on her her legs and the guy
pins down her arms and they start tickling her which i really oh i hate that did you guys see that documentary about the guy
yes oh so disturbing i was too freaked out it's freaky i hate tickling it freaks me out
um so they're tickling her and giggling and she's screaming and crying And then they pull out a knife. And again, they're like, you know, playing with her a bit, kind of dragging the knife on her.
Like, we're about to stab you.
And then they lift it up.
And as they do, we hear gunshots.
And they both fall limp to the ground.
And we see two of her other neighbors that i forgot to mention
earlier that had like driven by um okay and they don't say anything they just shoot them
and then walk out of the room i don't know if mary even sees are they freaks also they're not freaks
they're just like another they're just other like rich people in this community. A different purged group.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Mary sees James bleeding out, kind of drags him to the foot of the stairs.
Charlie runs up, sees them.
They're kind of crying and holding each other.
And the main freak comes out with his gun and is like, I was like, yeah yeah I told you this was gonna happen
sorry and
pulls out his gun to
kill them and then he is shot
a whole bunch of times in the chest by Zoe
oh great
good job Zoe
which is like Zoe's character
is so weird to me she's given like nothing
and just
these really weird moments I don't know she's
like such a strangely boyfriend who's a sociopath then all we care about is that she's really hot
and then it's like yeah her like she's just like reactionary she doesn't have like a character of
her own at all except for in this moment where she just all of a sudden takes the initiative to do a murder. What's like because he said he
would like save her for me
and so I guess
she's like she doesn't want that
but that's like literally the
only depth we get
to this character. It's just very
I don't know why they didn't spend a little
more time on one
of the main characters. I can guess.
I think we can guess. Yeah i think we can guess yeah i think we can guess why so um okay so he's dead and i think that's the last of the freaks we hear like
gunshots happening in the rest of the house and we see that the neighbors have come and saved them
and they've killed all of the freaks and then they rich people sticking together
yeah they stuck together the rich people stuck together yeah they went purging without them but
they returned don't worry um and so they come they then like come into the hallway where the
family is and mary's crying and's like, thank you so much.
Like you saved us.
And we see Grace is there, too, from the opening.
And so it's like all her neighbors and Grace is like, well, don't thank us too much because the reason that we saved you is because you're ours and we want to kill you.
And I knew it. I fucking fucking knew it and they all grab
them there's like a 10 of 10 of the neighbors and only three of this family now and so oh has the
dad died the dad died is the dad dead he is dead oh dead yeah okay james is james is done already
dead okay bye and no more ethan hawke in the Purge franchise. No more Ethan Hawke in the Purge franchise.
And even though his character, I think, is poorly written, I think Ethan Hawke is a good
enough actor that he brings something to the character that...
Yeah.
I feel like this character could have been so hateable, and Ethan Hawke made him only
medium hateable, because he's just great.
He's a very likable guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the neighbors tie them all. They're
like grabbing them to tie them up and
they're screaming and
saying, why are you doing this?
And Grace says
we saw an opportunity to
cleanse ourselves of our hatred.
You made so much money off of us
and then you rubbed it in our faces.
Time for you to quiet down
and let us do our duty as Americans.
Wow.
And then all of the neighbors hold hands
in a circle around the three tied up family members
and chant like a patriotic
bless our new forefathers chant and then one of them gets shot
and the bloody stranger pops out of somewhere and holds a gun to one of their heads and they all back off and they're like, oh, oh, oh, and unties Mary and the kids,
and they, I think they have the gun to Grace's head or something.
I can't remember, but they're basically holding one of them hostage
and have the upper hand now, and the bloody stranger says to Mary, like,
your call, like, basically, like, do you want to kill them all?
I'll do it.
like your call like basically like do you want to kill them all i'll do it and mary says no we are gonna live the rest of this little night out in peace does anybody have a problem with that and
it gets like it's trying to be funny in this last little moment but it's like the writing it just is
kind of stupid anyways so they're all like, no, I guess not.
And then like cuts to the clock is like ticking to 7 a.m., like implying that they have just been sitting in silence around the kitchen table until the sun comes up.
The clock's about to strike seven and Grace decides she's going to make one more play to try to kill Mary and Mary grabs she like
pulls the shotgun up and Mary grabs a shotgun out of her hands and like smashes her in the face with
it like super hard for sure breaking her nose blood is like pouring down Grace's face and
she's fuck I didn't write down the line but she says something so corny that's like
I said we were gonna be
have this evening and peace
god damn it like something
like that and
and then
it's so
stupid and then
the clock strikes 7 a.m.
and they all
stand up and go home.
And I think as they're leaving, Mary's like, hope you all had a great night or something.
Her husband died.
Yeah, she seems to not be bothered by that.
The father of her children is dead.
Yeah.
That hasn't hit her quite yet i don't think in this storyline and
there's some like moment of acknowledgement to the bloody stranger he like turns to leave as well
and she's like wait thank you something like that and he like this is how this movie ends. He like nods at her like, you're welcome or whatever. What? And it's so weird and dumb.
It's trying to be like heartwarming.
It's so weird.
It's very bizarre.
Yeah, it sucks.
Because like the first act I'd say is fun.
And like so, it's so promising.
Like so much is set up and it could be this really scathing commentary.
And it kind of just ends up being this kind of like rich white people can be good.
And like, wait, is this the is this the end?
Is that the last scene?
Oh, my God.
Well, you know what it is?
It's that, you know, horror movies, you expect everyone to die or the ending to be like fucked up or bad in some way and they tried to make this um the ending like
to be like all good in the end like everyone learned a lesson and everyone's like gonna move
on and everyone is like feeling good about everyone else's you know it's like at the end to um
a new girl or something. Do you guys?
I get so fucking sick of the ending of New Girl where every
single time it's like a heartwarming lesson.
Okay. Anyway, my rant's
over. Emily, what did you think?
Yeah, I mean,
the
trailer was intense and I do
think the premise is cool and it does seem
like it just didn't really have the right it didn't land the ending like um i don't love that
then this guy who they fucking tortured and almost sent to death like decided to save them
and then it's like oh thank you so much it's like what the fuck
you don't deserve that exactly it's like a shortcut to redemption and it's like oh we don't
have to actually like do much it's like i guess the point is like he's better than you ultimately
right like he doesn't so that's good i suppose but it's still like what are we trying what are
we trying to say here i I mean she learned a lesson
because you know violence
isn't the answer and so she
but she was able to stop all of it
by just using some stern
words. Like here's
my ending is
minutes to seven
or whatever fucking time
Grace goes to try to kill her again
they all lose their shit
killing ensues all the fucking
rich people end up killing each other
uh
and that
dude is left alone in the house and he
sets the alarm back on and locks
the whole fucking place down and it's his now
that's my ending to this fucking movie
hell yeah
what the fuck what everybody just goes home and
they're like well didn't succeed in killing me i thought the neighbors were just gonna kill them
and i was there was part of me that was kind of like okay like that's so fucked up to like kill
kids you know to kill like a 12 year old but not realize that there's like this other guy who then
is still there and gets to like keep the house.
I just want him to keep the house.
I guess is what I want to happen.
I want that too.
But, you know, disappointing is the state of the world right now in its most mild terms.
So I guess I get it.
Yeah, I want to hear about the other ones.
I do want to do more sequels
because there is something so like interesting about being complicit in a violent system which
i feel like we all are and that's something that i feel like needs to be fully reckoned with i mean
in reality but it's also like i feel like in this movie it wasn't even really reckoned with yeah yeah like my first thought was
like when this when I'm hearing this concept and like seeing okay the purge night is starting I'm
like what I do and this this is bad this is complicity right but I'm like I fucking lock
myself in my room I pay attention to nothing I focus on nothing I like literally I'm like I just
need to make it till
dawn and pretend this is not fucking happening which is it's like how i live in the real world
where i'm like it's i just need to like right um or just escape just pretend like it's not
happening that's another comment on like what a privilege it is to be able to just like pretend
it's not happening but um that doesn't feel like that was explored here so much.
Well, it's just not realistic about human behavior also in the sense that you...
Apparently a doctor would disagree.
Well, okay, so many things would happen.
First of all, everyone would just leave the United States.
You know, people would not stay.
People would leave.
Well, the people with money would, which again, is another point that they could have made.
That's true. I mean mean look how fucking rich people are
straight up building spaceships we're like gonna
die from global warming and rich people are gonna
be the ones to survive and it's so fucked up
and it's so it's like
it's one of the true greatest
horrors of humanity and this movie
just dropped the ball and didn't quite capture that
hey the purge
why didn't you capture the true horror of humanity?
You sort of dropped the ball, The Purge movie.
But I hope you nailed it in those sequels, and we're going to find out.
We're going to find out.
We're going to find out.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
What a roller coaster that was.
Thank you, Sammy.
Thank you, Sammy.
Sorry it wasn't more satisfying for you in this current moment.
No, I mean, it just made me want to watch the others. And especially since there's one called
Election Year, I really was like halfway through like, fuck, we should have done that one.
But oh, well, listeners, I'm sorry. We'll do it in a future episode. We wanted to kind of,
you know, do something a little on theme.
Please, God, let Joe Biden have one at this time. Oh, my God.
Oh, it's so weird to think about.
Where will we be?
I'll probably be.
This comes out Wednesday, November 4th.
So I'm one things for certain I can say about myself in this moment.
I'm hung over, baby.
I am hung over when this episode comes out.
Oh, God.
That's for sure.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
Um, well, I don't know.
Well, do we have a voice we can use to say goodbye?
Just the creepy freak voice, I guess.
Just we'll say goodbye with a smile.
We'll say no.
Just know that we're smiling.
We have a big shitting grin on our faces.
Oh, I hate it.
I'm so truly, genuinely terrified right now in this moment.
But of the world, you mean?
Not of mine.
Yeah. I hope. god oh god listeners I hope
I hope right now when you're hearing
this in your ears I hope it's okay
I hope it's okay
it's okay
it's all gonna be okay yeah okay
I don't even know how to I'm like
scared to end the podcast
we gotta end it
we gotta keep talking forever no we can't we can't okay we
can't we can't okay we love you guys everything's fine we're fine we're fine see you later
see you later no you hang up first you hang up um you hang out goodbye goodbye goodbye goodbye Emily here
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