Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE TAKING OF DEBORAH LOGAN

Episode Date: January 5, 2022

Switchboards, snakes, and more kid stuff than we may have anticipated - we're recapping The Taking of Deborah Logan! This episode was chosen by an instagram poll, and boy it didn't disappoint.... Join us as we bring in the new year with a reminder of the fragility of the human body and mind! The Taking of Deborah Logan is streaming on Shudder and Amazon Prime.00:00 - Episode starts13:25 - Trivia21:37 - Recap  Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I like watching scary movies. So I watch them. I tell you about them every Wednesday and also twice a month on our Patreon if you're into bonus content. Ooh, baby. Once a week, that ain't enough. I need six a month. Then you're going to want to head to patreon.com slash tsdwpodcast.
Starting point is 00:00:52 That's the place to be. But listeners, we are recording today's episode in person. The energy in the room is electric. It's buzzing, it's buzzing, it's buzzing. I almost didn't make it through my little intro because I got so freaking excited. I know.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I can't believe I can see your full bodies. I've been missing seeing your full bodies as we do the recording. You really lose a lot when you only get neck up. You only get the face. You only get the face. But also, there's something nice about the close up face shot to you guys. Sure. I am so excited to be in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I was telling you guys earlier that it feels like home and I'm sad that I have to leave again. I'm sad I have to leave your side. We're sad, too. Very sad. But let's just embrace the moment. Now we're not sad. Let's embrace the present moment now we're not sad let's embrace the present moment that's right exactly and speaking of doing things like embracing the present moment
Starting point is 00:01:50 is anyone making new year's resolutions i think yeah this is so this is our first episode of 2022 currently full disclosure it is 2021 still oh my god still 2021 don't tell them don't a little peek behind the curtain here you know what if we get a y2k moment on the 31st and they're gonna be like what they didn't talk about that um they forgot to mention the y2k that happened um we've all been through the big y2k and it's saying about it um i clearly grasp of what that was supposed to be the big y2k um but i think yeah let's talk about let's talk about our our new year's resolutions for this upcoming chapter um
Starting point is 00:02:35 i can start start us off start us up it's it's quite boring i do feel like um sometimes sometimes new year's resolutions are boring you know what i mean? And I'll have more than one. We can all have multiple goals for ourselves. But my biggest one, I think, is going to be to respect my physical body more. I love that. I want to do better at tending to my physical body. I like that. Because it's so easy not to. And I so often don't. And
Starting point is 00:03:07 there are consequences. Yes, there are. And I've reached a point in my life where that's only going to be more and more true. So I'm going to try to take a little bit better care of this vessel that takes me through the world. So that's my resolution. So that just means like drinking less. It means eating healthy. We haven't nailed down the specifics. Just leave it sort of open. No, it means, I think,
Starting point is 00:03:38 yeah, it means like drinking more water, exercising more. Just like, I think for me me it just means paying better attention to when i feel good and bad and trying to like do more of the things that make me feel good do less the things that make me feel bad mainly i just i don't pay any attention some mindfulness you should work some meditation into there that's a great idea this is all 10 minutes a day there's also like i was telling Jill like pretty
Starting point is 00:04:05 much like once every three months and a lot I think a lot of like body stuff for me like being uncomfortable or like in pain in ways has started in the pandemic because I think of like stress and just so there's a lot of things like every three months I get like a really sharp pain
Starting point is 00:04:21 in my side. Oh no. And you think you have appendicitis it's the other side um i've look i've i've web md'd myself i know what's wrong with me but i it like well it goes away after like two days and so then i'm like okay great i don't worry about that anymore and never think about it again i've had a similar thing where it's just like oh good the pain is gone yeah and so i mean my goal is to be like hey the pain think like like what was that like let's not have let's not have just like regular pain that you don't deal with and let's not just like eat and drink and act like you're 22 when you are no longer yeah but no
Starting point is 00:05:01 hard and fast rules you know i'm not like i'm not you know i'm not putting restrictions on myself last time we had a new year's discussion i feel like one of your resolutions was to put on lotion more regularly really oh my god you're right and i have not done it i'm putting that in as well tend more to my physical body with lotion lotion up that skin baby i gotta be moisturized more moisturized in 2022 i need that too so badly my god sammy what are your resolutions or all resolution well one that i've been thinking of that i would like to do is to thrift shop more oh that's a great idea something that i did in the pandemic that i got very used to doing is doing all of my shopping online shopping.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And, you know, I like I'm not going to stop fully online shopping. No restrictions on yourself. No restrictions. These are goals. These are goals. But I live right by Crossroads and it's just and there's a lot the left bank. There's a lot of good thrift stores in L.A. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And like buying things new is is bad for the environment. And I do it all the time. I have a shopping problem I would say. I love to buy things. I love to buy things. I love to buy things but then I return like so many of it. I return a lot too. And that's also so bad for the environment. Because it's just like shipping back and forth. It is bad for the environment.
Starting point is 00:06:19 It's so terrible. Yeah. Exactly. So if we can do some of that shopping in person I can scratch my shopping addiction itch. Yeah. There are also a few places to buy secondhand online. I've started buying more things on Poshmark and Depop. And my sister is very obsessed with ThredUp. I have not found a ton of success on it personally. But ThredUp is great. The RealReal, I think, does some secondhand stuff too. Because I too love to shop online. ways there are ways to even do that
Starting point is 00:06:49 secondhand and also oh etsy has great secondhand etsy etsy really is good um i have sent a bunch of clothes to thread up because they'll just send you a bag and you just great fill it up and and especially now during the pandemic goodwill and, a lot of them have stopped taking things. And so and they like take your things in, they put them online and you can see them and then you get a small percentage when they're sold. Or I think they donate if anything that isn't sold or. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it's a great it's a great option. And like similarly to to you, Emily, like part of it is I think also mindfulness and like being aware. And I just want to like bring a little moment in before I press like buy of like, do I need this item? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Is there a way I could get something similar without having to do the shipping? So, yeah, I just like need to slow down because I'm just like, oh, give me those. Give me those fucking clothes right now. I need those T-shirts. Those T-shirts will solve everything. It's right now. I need those t-shirts. Those t-shirts will solve everything. It is so good when I get those t-shirts. And sometimes, like, truly the second I press buy, I'm like, I don't fucking need that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:53 You have regret. Why did I do that? Buyer's remorse is the worst feeling. I hate buyer's remorse. That's why I return everything. Because I'm like, I'd rather just return it and not feel this feeling. What about you, Henley? Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:04 So my New Year's resolution is to buy an electric keyboard. That's unexpected. Okay, just to buy it and then you're done. That's a pretty easy one. You've got the whole year to purchase an item. That's it. No, I've honestly been thinking about buying one for years and years and years. And I never do it because I'm always like, I don't have space and it's a waste. I
Starting point is 00:08:29 shouldn't do it. But I think about it enough that I think it's time and there's a place next to my bed where it'll fit. And it'll just be, I used to play the piano and I'm very bad at it now, to play the piano and I'm very bad at it now. But I love playing it. And it'll be such a like, especially if it's next to my bed, it'll be I know that I will play the piano instead of looking at my phone. I know that I will. And so if it's just there, I'm going to use it. I know I'll use it. And so I just need to get it into my room and then we're good to go. And I'm very excited. I'm going to do it. Henley, I love this.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I, ooh, I, let me tell you what, to have like a thing, like an activity, hobby, just something that is like purely yours that again, you don't need to play the piano. You could live your life without ever having a piano by your bed but just to be like I'm gonna do a little thing that's for me and it's not my phone and it's not tv yes and like I just feel like in the past like in the pandemic I've realized oh it's so good to just have a thing like that and I don't think that was ever prioritized for me as an adult it's like you get a job you you do your job, you like hang out with it. Just like the idea of like having little things that are yours that serve no other purpose
Starting point is 00:09:53 than to like please you. And also that's something you can get better at. Yeah. You can like practice it and get better at it. Like you're supposed to do that as a kid. Like, yeah, I took piano lessons. Then I was like, great, I'm not going to be a pianist. So bye.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. Who cares? Who cares? No, I took piano like all throughout college. I really love playing the piano. It's always brought me a lot of joy. But then I just like haven't as an adult and I was never like very good at it. I was always just like fine at it. But it's not what it's about. I love what it's about. I love like learning new songs. And that's my favorite thing is like going on youtube and watching people play piano and then learning how to play that song i just fucking love doing that so wow i'm gonna do it again so excited for you thank you wow 2022 man 2022 i think it's gonna be good that's what we said in 2019 at this time
Starting point is 00:10:41 so like i oh man to think every new year being like and now it'll be better no hey you know what some beautiful things happened in 2020 some beautiful things wait 2021 2019 was three years ago okay so right okay so it's gonna be 2022 so we're reflecting on 2021 because it's gonna be 2022 2022. Some beautiful things happened in 2021. And that is what I was thinking about. Henley got married. Henley had a baby. It's all pretty Henley related.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Okay. All right. Well, that's enough. You guys also fucking blew up, you know, like you blew up. Yeah. Sammy, you worked on a fucking cool as hell docu-series. That's very true. That was extremely successful and I very much enjoyed.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Golden on Peacock. Check it out. Golden on Peacock. Emily, come on. Get out of here. The amount of clothes that you've sewed by hand. I made a lot of things in 2021. You made so many things and so many beautiful pieces of jewelry.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Thank you. Current Crush Shop. Check it out. Check it out. Instagram and Etsy. things you've made so many things and so many beautiful pieces of jewelry thank you oh current crush shop check it out yeah instagram and etsy not on peacock yeah fuck yeah and also we did this podcast and we kept doing this freaking podcast for a whole other calendar year which is very cool and crazy and i feel very excited about the upcoming year for this podcast listeners we've got some great guests coming up oh you're gonna lose it you're gonna lose your mind and i can't fucking wait um but also we just want to do a quick thank you to someone who sent us a holiday gift oh my god um briannaanna sent us the sweetest freaking care package with teas and crocheted beanies
Starting point is 00:12:31 and pin cushions and witchcraft stuff for me. She's very talented. She made three adorable, perfect beanies for Silas and I haven't received such a thoughtful gift from anyone. I mean, it was, it blew me out of my seat.
Starting point is 00:12:50 She flew up in the air? She just fell right off her seat. What if she just fell over? I just fell off the seat. Okay, her Instagram is b.e.vmade. So like Bev made. And her Etsy is bev made shop and she just crochets all this all these cool beanies and hats and she's gotta make stickers so she's great cool she's great
Starting point is 00:13:16 thank you so much we're gonna be really really appreciated it was so cool to get a little something sweet. It was really delightful. But okay, let's get into our first recap of 2022. Oh my God. We today are talking about a movie that you guys chose. We had a Instagram poll and you decided on The Taking of Deborah Logan. and you decided on The Taking of Deborah Logan. It was incredibly close with 13 Ghosts, so we'll have to do 13 Ghosts in the near future. Stay tuned.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Two movies I don't even think I had heard of, so I can't wait to find out what the deal is. Well, The Taking of Deborah Logan came out in 2014, directed by Adam Robitel, written by Adam Robitel and Gavin Heffernan, and starring Jill Larson, Ann Ramsey, and Michelle Ang. It is streaming on Shudder and Amazon Prime. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:14 This one's been requested a whole freaking bunch of times. Wowee. So many times. And I've gotten DMs from people being like, you're going to be really scared of this one. Emily and Henley are not going to like this one. Wowee. But then I feel like I ran that past you, Sammy to be really scared of this one. Emily and Henley are not going to like this one. Wowee. But then I feel like I ran that past you, Sammy, and you were not so sure.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Well, I just I assumed that that would mean that there would be kid stuff in it. And I feel like there's not much. There's not none. There's always a sprinkle of kid stuff. We can just rest assured no matter what. There's never not any kid stuff. You know what I mean? You know what? Now that I'm thinking, there might a sprinkler. There's never not any kid stuff. Do you know what I mean? You know what?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Now that I'm thinking, there might be more kid stuff than I anticipated that I previously stated. Okay, Sam, you've got to set expectations properly. Is there kid stuff? Is there not kid stuff? Sounds like there definitely is kid stuff. There's some conceptual kid stuff that doesn't happen on screen. That's bad enough for me.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I don't even like that. Interesting. Yep. Okay. on screen that's bad enough for me i don't even like that interesting yep okay all i know is that the image of that we use for the poster for the polls really makes me laugh it is very funny it's just that's the titular deborah logan that's deborah you know what i wonder how Debra's doing. I think probably not well. Not well. It has a 91% on Rotten Tomatoes. Holy hell. And a 6 even on IMDb. Weird disparity there. Yeah, that's a really high Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah. I thought it was good. I had never seen it. And it was pretty scary. It's found footage. And I love a found footage. I think it ups the scary factor just inherently. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 The budget is not available. And the box office was $275,000. But I believe it mostly went straight to VOD. So I don't even know if that's box office. I don't know. Those numbers aren't that interesting. But I wrote them down nonetheless. Yeah, well, we needed to know. We needed to know if that's box off. I don't know. Those numbers, you know, aren't that interesting. But I wrote them down nonetheless. Yeah, well, we needed to know.
Starting point is 00:16:08 We needed to know. If there's any info out there, we needed to know. And I don't, there wasn't a ton of trivia, but this was the directorial debut of Adam Robitel. And he went on to direct Paranormal five the ghost dimension maybe that's six even i'm not sure but one of the paranormal activities and one of the insidious sequels insidious the last key um so he's a good for him he's doing well he's doing great doing great and he is also currently working on a series for netflix with darren aronofsky called the craving and i thought that was such a good title for a horror yeah that is really good i hope it's about spooky vampires or something
Starting point is 00:16:57 it sounds like vampires oh it could be cannibals yeah it could be like a like a raw something to do with eating something to do with eating i bet i bet um and then the last thing i wrote down which i was just happy to learn is that deborah logan this actress jill larson is the same woman that's in shutter island that has the slit throat that it looked like her i know that's i whenever i see screenshots of it i'm always like oh is this the deborah logan movie or is it shutter island you can't tell and it's because it's both it's because it's the same person wait who's the one that had the slit throat that's not the one she literally just goes yeah no no okay okay okay i forgot that she had a slit throat oh she's she's scary she's scary scary scary yeah she. Yeah, she's creepy.
Starting point is 00:17:46 And she's a good actress. She's creepy and a good actress. Good for her. She's got it all. She can do anything. What can't she do? What can't she do? But that's all the trivia I have. So let's watch the trailer. Let's watch the trailer.
Starting point is 00:18:02 73 Apple, take one, Mark. The story of Alzheimer's is never about one person. My PhD th- I'm gonna start again. You wanna keep the house? You need to sacrifice. You talking to me about sacrifice? Hey.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Hi. Ma! They wanna make a movie about this. Yes. We will live and document our subjects' physical and mental degradation over the course of two one-month periods. We're gonna have fun, right? Yeah. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I'm not interested in being exploited. Sarah mentioned that Deb's been sleepwalking pretty bad. So let's set up surveillance cams. Mom? Deb? You really gave us all quite a fright with your late night gardening. This is not normal sleepwalking. You should come see this.
Starting point is 00:19:09 It's not good, Doc. Do you remember a man named Henri de Hardin went missing 30 years ago? I tried to wash you in the river, you know. How long did you become? That woman is crazy. The notion of spiritual parasites does exist. Okay. She's gonna die
Starting point is 00:19:45 oh my god um i'd forgotten this but um paul f to Tompkins DM'd us and asked us if the woman from that photo is the Kristen Wiig character from the Lawrence Welks skit. And I'm Dooney. Dooney. I like chasing cars. That's very funny. Yeah, it's scary it looks awful i would rate this one as a double black diamond or at least a black diamond it's scary it's pretty scary yeah the whole concept is genius though i mean i think it makes a lot of sense to make a scary movie about alzheimer's yeah and we did relic which is similarly anything Anything that allows you to doubt the sanity of the person in question allows it to go on for so much longer. So that's a great.
Starting point is 00:20:52 But it looks really yucky. It looks nasty. It looks nasty. Something with a spine and some fluid. Yeah, and just like the human bodies, they all fall apart and then die. And that's how it works. That is how it works. And it is terrifying.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Really bad. Yeah, it's bad. It's happening to us as we speak. Yeah. Yeah. Every second. Every second that we're alive. We got to put on some lotions.
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Starting point is 00:24:08 Okay. I want to set the scene that I made my signature cup of piping hot tea before watching this movie. Oh, fabulous. I love to watch a scary movie with some boiling liquid in my lap. Those jump scares add a whole new level of tension um but okay so we begin with a
Starting point is 00:24:29 text card that tells us the following footage is footage from a medical student's thesis film and that student is mia who we saw in the trailer And I can't remember now what the line is in the trailer, but she is doing an American accent. But there are a few words that she says that are she's Australian. And interesting. And things like that. I always wonder, like, why not just make her Australian? Like, it doesn't feel like it'd be distracting to the plot. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:25:00 She's a student. She could be studying anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But her accent is mostly pretty good. And then just occasionally she could be studying anywhere yeah yeah i don't know but her accent is mostly pretty good and then just occasionally she'll be full australian um but so it's her and her two camera guys are gavin and louise and they show up to the house of uh their
Starting point is 00:25:22 soon to be like the subject of this documentary deborah logan they're greeted by her daughter sarah um and sarah is really welcoming to them like so glad you guys are here there's like you know do i talk to the camera who do i talk to like there's like setting up the found footage aspect of it um and she says sarah says to them this you're still doing the grant money thing right and it's we learned that something about them making this document like they're being paid in some way like maybe it's covering their medical bills or something like that and so that's like sarah's pumped about that oh i i see the family's justification yeah okay got it yes that's why they're participating um and then she takes them to meet deborah who is in the yard gardening
Starting point is 00:26:14 and with their neighbor i think his name is harris and she's a sweet little old woman very like polite and proper and she's like oh like oh i'm so dirty like pardon me like very old not old-timey what is the word i'm looking for just old-fashioned and she quickly within a few minutes of talking to them decides she doesn't want to do it anymore she's like uh i don't i don't know this is a little intrusive i don't want to be you know part of this i think we should just call this off and sarah is immediately very stressed by that and like no like we need to do this like we can't afford your medical bills but they do they leave to give them um some space to talk it over and before they leave
Starting point is 00:27:06 Mia says like you know the same my dad also had Alzheimer's and you see Debra kind of soften a bit at that and then she turns and the cameraman's like why'd you just lie to her about that so rude oh that's not
Starting point is 00:27:22 okay oh very very rude. Uh-oh. So we're already a little not trusting of this filmmaking team. Oh, and so they go inside to talk and one of the cameramen films their conversation through the window. And a lot of it is subtitled because they're not wearing mics. And so they're just putting subtitles up. And you see Sarah start to cry. She's clearly overwhelmed by the responsibility of this,
Starting point is 00:27:52 by the actual cost and all of it. It was a very stressful situation. And Deb sees them filming through the window and gets mad. There's a lot of shots in this of Deborah slowly noticing the camera. Oh, scary. It's really scary scary because she doesn't react she just turns and like stares and like looks mad oh no i don't like that then it jumps to one week later and we are back at the house sarah has done what she needed to do to convince deborah that they got to do this. And Deborah seems in a better mood, in better spirits. And she's giving them all a tour of
Starting point is 00:28:31 the house. It's a huge house. She's showing them their bedrooms and showing them her painting room or like art room. And they're going to be moving in. So they'll be filming all the time. They set up some cameras, like security type cameras that'll just be running 24-7. And there's a spooky shot when Luis is setting up one of the cameras where she just is behind him
Starting point is 00:28:57 without him noticing. So she's just like watching what he does. And she's just creepy. She's a good actress, but she's creepy. She's doing both. She's doing both. She shows them she has all these like little figurines. I can't remember where the figurines came from, but they'll come back.
Starting point is 00:29:17 So just know about them. OK. And she looks pretty like healthy, normal right now. She's pretty with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And then they set
Starting point is 00:29:26 up for their first like sit down interview sarah and deb are being interviewed together and sarah says um deborah immediately is like downplaying her symptoms like you know like sometimes i'll misplace my keys like everybody does that and Sarah's like no like one time you left the stove on and almost burned the whole house down like you forgot to turn off the stove and so yeah Deb is playing her symptoms down but Sarah's like no there's some pretty like clear things happening here we also get some interviews with Deb's doctor Dr.ir, who at this point says she has what is known as MCI, which is mild cognitive impairment. And it goes into a medical documentary style where it'll have like graphics come up on
Starting point is 00:30:16 screen of like the brain and that kind of like showing like where in the brain is she's being affected. And when it jumps to this style it'll have mia narrating she's like talking to camera like being like and this is what's they talk about deb's childhood too so she says when deborah was younger uh her first husband died and so she raised sarah as a single mom we learned that she started a business operating a switchboard for the come for the town that she lived in so she would just like connect calls you know those like yeah switchboard machines where you're like plugging in yeah yeah yeah that was a whole there's a whole career that just disappeared right yeah deb out Deb. Is that where the demon came from?
Starting point is 00:31:07 Through the switchboard? Switchboard demon? Maybe. And Deb makes a comment like, I kept everybody's secrets. And Sarah's like, well, you didn't have to do that. You could have just not,
Starting point is 00:31:18 you could have just taken them off of your list. And she's like, well, then I would have lost a client. Like, it's important for me to have everybody trust me. So that's their first interview. And then there's a moment at which Luis is getting some B-roll. And he's just filming her, Deb, gardening.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And she's not noticing. And as he kind of zooms in, we see that she is holding a snake in her hands, like a black snake. Yeah. Just kind of casually playing with a little snake in the dirt. Right. And he gets freaked out. And Mia is like, Hey,
Starting point is 00:31:53 what are you doing? I like asked you to film something over here. And he turns and turns back and Deb's like right there. She's like, were you filming me? She's always just spotting those camera operators we also learn that sarah has a bit of a drinking problem it's not super critical to the plot but just kind of we can see like again see she's taking all this really hard and her coping mechanism is just yeah like she drinks a
Starting point is 00:32:22 lot uh i don't know how much time passes, but they're staying there for a while, probably a few weeks go by. And one night, Debra attacks Gavin, one of the camera operators, saying he stole her spade and her like little shovel that she uses for gardening. And she just like goes at him. shovel that she uses for gardening and she just like goes at him and i think she has a knife but they're able to pull her off of him and and then she just has like a really really upsetting meltdown she is screaming like a infant and like thrashing on the floor and it's just like really upsetting to see oh i don't like that i don't like that one little bit no it's not good and sarah's just there by herself so she's like moved back in with her mom to take care of her she's not she doesn't have like a partner or anything she does make
Starting point is 00:33:14 mention of she has a girlfriend somewhere but i can't really remember where but i think she does make a mention that it has like been hard on her relationship as well. Okay. Got it. Then they go up. There's, of course, an attic in this house. Got it. Mark your bingos.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And I think, again, Luis is just like filming around the house, getting more footage. And he goes up into the attic. And that's the old switchboard is up there. Demon through the switchboard, baby. Demon through the switchboard. She kept everyone's secrets, including the demons. Oh, they go up into the attic because they're looking for the spade. That's right.
Starting point is 00:34:02 So they're just searching everywhere for the spade. They eventually find it in the freezer. she had apparently put it in there and she calms down a bit after this um little meltdown and goes into her art room and is staring out this one window and they notice that she's just been standing there for you know too long and sarah goes to her to try to get her to get to bed or something like mom what are you doing and it's just like slowly the camera like coming closer to her like they're gonna like put their hand on her shoulder to turn her around she turns around and she is ripping her skin off of her neck. What? She's just like pulling her skin off.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I don't know how. And she's been successful. Yeah. Like a big old chunk of skin comes off of her neck. And she's just doing it with her fingers. I don't like that. That gives me the chills. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And so they rush her to the hospital. And with Dr. Nazir lets us know that they did some more brain scans. And it seems like it's actually advancing really fast now. And they up her meds. So she gets pretty drugged up. And then they're able to take her home the next day and she's back to her proper self and she really apologizes to to gavin she's like i just can't believe i my word i would never treat anybody the way that i treated you we get a little look at the neighbor har Harris, again, who is talking to Sarah.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And again, this is a conversation that looks like they don't really or they don't know is being filmed. And Harris is saying, like, OK, it's enough. Like, clearly the cameras are stressing her out. It's maybe time to end this. Send them home. Sarah's like, I can't like I can't afford the bills on my own like we need them then someone is filming deborah is in her room sitting on the foot of her bed staring at herself in the mirror talking to herself you can't hear what she's saying but she's just kind of like
Starting point is 00:36:20 talking to herself and then she in the mirror catches eyes with the cameraman just like she straightens and i think he just leaves but there's just so many moments of her just like seeing that she's being filmed and it's very scary oh i don't like it at all um then we see she does she does a lot of like walking around at night obviously obvious that we're catching in all those security cameras just seeing you know what there's a lot of nasty nightgowns oh she's in a nightgown she loves a nightgown nasty nasty debbie logan loves a nightgown debbie loves nightgown one evening she goes back into that room with the window that she was staring out of,
Starting point is 00:37:07 and she's just staring out of it again, holding a hammer in her hand. No. That's not good. Take the hammer away from her. Taking a Deborah Logan's hammer. So stupid, the sequel. The prequel. And Sarah comes in. They hear that she's up and so everybody everybody wakes up and sarah's
Starting point is 00:37:29 slowly approaching her like mom can we take that like can we get that hammer away from you like can you put that down and deborah like goes up quickly and just starts like hammering in nails into the window like she's nailing it shut and she's like this is where i see him oh yikes and is hammering close the the window that's not good it's him yeah we don't know it's a great question which body man um then there's another night that she gets out and or like they like hear something and go to look for her she's gone there's a lot of shots of her like slowly crawling out of bed and just and just walking out of the halls so she she leaves the house they find that same window
Starting point is 00:38:22 open now with a piece of her nightgown caught on one of the nails so they're like she's outside and they go and find her at that same spot where she was playing with little snake and she's just furiously digging in the dirt with her bare hands that's really creepy that's like a very very very creepy image. It's very, very scary. And they grab her. They bring her back inside. And this part, so much of this movie is scary just from her looks. Like she just has such a scary vibe. A little like evil look.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Not that she's evil, but like she looks so mad. that she's evil but like she looks so mad and so mia brings her into a bathroom to wash her hands because she has dirt all in her fingernails and mia is scrubbing her her nails and talking to her i mean like oh you gave us quite a scare and like we're gonna get your nails back to normal here in just a second and as she's sweetly calmly talking to her deb is just staring at mia and it's like so close up in deb's face of her just scowling oh she's so mad she's so mad then the next morning they're going over some of the footage and there's a shot of Deb standing in front of the stove and then it jumps to her standing on the stove. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:50 No, that was in the trailer. I did not like that. And then jumps one more time to her, like, floating above the stove. Nope. And they say there's no break in the time code. They, like, play it over and over and over. And it's not like it's a continuous filming. Like there's no break in the footage.
Starting point is 00:40:12 And so they're like, that doesn't that doesn't make sense. Like there's clearly is a break. And there's like, no, there's not. And they can't figure it out. That's when you get out of there. Yeah. Once you have video evidence of a demon, that's when you get out of there yeah once you have video evidence of a demon that's when you decide to leave yeah they're definitely getting a little creeped out and um they the next day
Starting point is 00:40:36 show her the footage of her digging and she's you know doesn't it, is horrified by it. She's like, who is that? Is that me? Why did you let me do that? That doesn't feel like a nice thing to do. No, it really doesn't. Here's you being crazy. Yeah, is this helpful?
Starting point is 00:40:57 Did you see this? Do you remember? You're losing it. You're losing it. What do you think? Yeah, it seems like not the right thing to do for someone in this situation and she's getting more and more upset by it and then she attacks them yeah lunges at them and it cuts and we go right back to the hospital um and this is the scene that they
Starting point is 00:41:21 are doing the spine i spinal tap is i presume what it is right yeah where they why does one do a spinal tap i don't i don't know i didn't it looks so bad it's extremely painful they yeah it and it shows it it shows them like putting a little needle into her spine and her screaming in pain and it connects to something where they're able to get spinal fluid out of it and i assume they're running some sort of test on the spinal fluid but god it looks awful all i'm trying to look up why and all i'm getting is the fucking movie yeah oh it can diagnose You use it to diagnose a bunch of stuff. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Is it like you can't have any anesthesia in that area? Yeah, I don't understand why is it so painful? I don't know. I don't like it. I don't like it. It can be cancers of the brain or spinal cord. Yeah. Meningitis.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Hemorrhaging in your brain. That's so crazy. They could figure that out from your spine. Disorders of the central nervous system. No, you get a little. They do a local anesthetic. Yikes. Yikes.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yikes. um but they notice as they're doing this that she has um some sort of skin infection and her skin is like scaly and it shows it on on her back and it's just like looks like a scaly rash all over her back then they're able to take her home again after this procedure. And we see her playing piano. That's me! And again, that cameraman is filming her through the little gap in the doorway. And she plays for a bit and then turns and notices him and smiles.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Ooh, she's happy. So, she's a little different than before. The spinal tap did something? No, I don't know, but she's just like slowly kind of changing. Then we get a little text that says it's day 41.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Dang, that's a long ass time. It doesn't totally matter, but just to let you know know significant time is passing and they are just living there this whole time but we hear screaming in the middle of the night and all this commotion is happening we run and like what's going on and go into one of the rooms where deborah is eating the figurines that she had previously and so sarah's like pulling them like out of her mouth gross gross gross and we see that this is like in her art room and she has painted all these um images of kind of a dark figure outside of that same window like it's drawing paintings of this room and that window and like someone on the other side getting closer there's like a few images where he's like getting closer and closer paymon pale paymon um and gavin is in the room, I think, with her. And he's filming the window.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And the window's open. No, excuse me. The window's closed. And then Deb is to his right. And he turns and faces Deb. And she kind of scares him. And he's like, oh, you frightened me. Turns back.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And the window is open. Whatever the opposite of what it just was. The change is in an instant. And it really freaks him out he's like what the fuck like that window like i it it who opened that who closed that that's not possible um that night again we see deb getting up in the middle of the night and like slowly taking her clothes off as she's walking down the halls like she's like stripping her nightgown off and kind of disappears into a room and then we hear just really loud ringing and it shows each of you
Starting point is 00:45:34 like gavin and luis and mia and sarah all waking up like what the fuck what is that what's that noise they're trying to figure out what it is and sarah comes in and is like it's the switchboard but that doesn't make sense that's like hasn't been operating in decades they go up to the attic and deborah is sitting at the switchboard naked um plugging one of the little cords into uh one of the switchboard holes which i'm sorry i don't know any of that sounds right that sounds right a switchboard cord and put a switchboard that's right that's right and she's like jamming it in there over and over and they're yelling like sarah's yelling mom stop like what are you doing what are you doing and she is speaking in a voice that doesn't sound like hers and they don't know what's happening they're eventually able to um get her take her
Starting point is 00:46:35 they take her to the hospital again and it's this scene was also in the trailer where she's just breathing like and it's so stressful because she does it for so long like she's just breathing so fast and they're like we need to slow down her breathing we need to slow down her breathing and she's just like and they're like mom mom like calm down calm down and so they give her an they inject her with something like some sort of sedative because she's just breathing way too fast and um back at the house they're looking at the switchboard and the number of the switchboard hole that she kept trying to plug the plug into is 337. And so they're like, OK, 337. That's who she was like trying to talk to. And she has a little records book that, of course, goes from number 336 to 338.
Starting point is 00:47:24 We're missing page 337, so we don't know who it is um they also the doctor gives sarah another uh injection like a one to take with her like in case you need it in case she starts having another episode this will calm her down so you have a sedative on hand and Gavin and Louise are looking at the footage from the, uh, you know, incident at the switchboard and they've slowed it down and done something to the audio where they can tell that her voice, she is speaking French and they translate it. And it says the eternal spirit will free you.
Starting point is 00:48:02 My child be my fifth. I will wash you in the river. Okay. We got some religious imagery here. And they realize that they can do that thing where they put a piece of paper over page 338. And they do a charcoal rubbing of it so they can see the indentation. 337? Nice.
Starting point is 00:48:22 rubbing of it so they can see the indentation of 337. Nice. And they are able to see that whoever, it was someone named Desjardins, Jean Desjardins I think. I didn't write the first name. Maybe Jean just sounds like the first name that would go with Desjardins. Sounds right to me.
Starting point is 00:48:38 But so then they Google this person and he was a murderer okay who disappeared after killing four young girls here's some kids the the conceptual children things got it got it got it and the rich he used was doing some sort of ritual with them that would involve cannibalism and so he ate parts of them and it also involved snakes okay and they figure out that the ritual he was trying to do is something that requires five victims to reach immortality and so he only killed four and then disappeared and one of the things
Starting point is 00:49:23 she says is be my fifth. Right. Right. Yeah. So they're on to something here. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:29 We don't love the way this sounds. Nope. Nope. They the next day ask Deborah about Desjardins and she's in the more like lucid state and kind of is like, oh uh i don't know and then she just says like oh he's he's dead and says it very matter-of-factly but then doesn't really offer up any information they're like well how do you know that and she kind of just won't really respond to that and then she upstairs goes upstairs like excuses herself and then they hear
Starting point is 00:50:06 her like vomiting like a loud retching noise and they run upstairs and she is throwing up dirt and worms oh gross it's so gross it's so Live worms. And they're like coming out of her mouth. It's very gross. Nuh-uh. I don't like it. I think they take her back to the hospital at that point. This hospital is like, we don't want to see her anymore. We're done.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I don't know, man. She's weird. Find a demonologist. And Harris, the neighbor, is also at the hospital and he's kind of freaking out as well and i oh they like see him in the room with her and he looks like he's freaking out about something and they can't hear what he's saying and so i don't totally remember how they but they come up with a theory that Harris killed Desjardins. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And think that he's like stressed that he's about to be found out or something. Okay. He does seem to be more invested than your typical neighbor. Right. Yeah. Right. And so they leave Deb at the hospital this night and go back to the house. this night um and go go back to the house and in the middle of the night they start hearing gunshots and harris is just shooting into the house and he's like drunk sarah's like yelling out like
Starting point is 00:51:37 harris harris stop it and he is just reloading and firing like a shotgun into the house. All the they're all like running and like hiding on the ground. It's so scary. It's awful. And eventually the cops come and they're able to get Harris to put the gun down. And he's like clearly very drunk. And I think they probably like take him into a drunk take tank or something. The the cop that comes this woman named sheriff sheriff tweed and he she like settles them down and say he's okay like we're
Starting point is 00:52:13 gonna take him in it's gonna be okay and gavin at this point starts like packing up his shit and he's like i'm out of here like i don't want to do this anymore which is the correct reaction yeah and mia goes you just so what you just start projects and then leave in the middle yeah if i get shot at yes you're a quitter it's so crazy like mia mia sucks be realistic here this is like the um guy from hell house llc yeah he's like um you guys are just gonna leave now excuse me like yes that is absolutely what we're going to do and so i think he does leave and we go back at to the hospital and find out that deb is missing uh-oh and they check security footage and we see that she has gone
Starting point is 00:53:01 downstairs into the child's cancer ward. Here's some more children things. And taken a young girl. Okay. And they've kind of disappeared into the kitchen area of the hospital. And so there's an extended sequence of the, I guess, Luis and Mia and Sarah now looking through this empty kitchen for Deb, like opening doors is a pretty stressful scene. And eventually. Is Deb looking like real crazy now? She is getting progressively.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Yeah. Looks creepier. Like her hair is all slicked back now. I think. I don't know why. But yeah. She's trying something new. But yeah, she definitely looks scarier she
Starting point is 00:53:47 looks like the still from the poster or whatever no she already looked that does she look like that crazy she's getting way more um like vacant behind the eyes and and like scraggly yeah looks like she's like sleepwalking and yes yeah not getting sleep yeah she looks bad she's bad say bad yep and they fight they eventually find her and the little girl in i don't know like a walk-in freezer or something oh no and they're holding hands just facing the wall and they slowly approach and they're like deborah like we need to take you back to your bed and all these moments you like really expect her to like turn around and lunge at them and she doesn't but they're able to get the little girl
Starting point is 00:54:37 they they pull her aside the little girl also looks like way out of it and this is the shot from the trailer that we also used in the polls where deborah just like turns and it's like it's a really creepy look if the look were a sound it would be. Then we cut to them strapping her to the hospital bed now, putting her in restraints, her screaming. She's screaming in French. Huh. And her teeth have dirt in them. Her teeth are like brown, like she has like grit in between her teeth. There's like grit in between her teeth.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And they go to see a professor of anthropology for some reason. Classic, classic choice. Not a demonologist. If you get into anthropology, though, you know you're going to have to know a little bit about demons. That's true. And he says he does. He serves the purpose of a demonologist in this scene where at first he kind of says, well, it's likely that she's having, you know, delusions. She believes she is Desjardins. But there has have been rumors of spiritual parasites. And he tells a story of a woman that was possessed by the soul of her son, I think. And that the way that they ended it was by burning the son's body.
Starting point is 00:56:15 And that, like, broke the connection. We're at day 60 now. And we see Harris going into the hospital. And Deb asks him to kill her. Oh no. And he... Never good. He tries to comply.
Starting point is 00:56:30 He grabs a pillow and attempts to smother her. The whole room starts shaking and a TV flies off the shelf and hits Harris. And so now Harris is in the hospital like being taken to surgery or something. He's all fucked up. But Sarah, I guess, was in there and runs to Harris and... He didn't get arrested?
Starting point is 00:56:52 I don't know. I think you have to take care of medical stuff first. I feel like even if it was a crime that got you hurt, I think they do have to still treat you. Nobody was shooting at the house. Oh. Yeah, no, I guess not. You should get arrested for that. Maybe they didn't press charges. Oh, I guess, yeah, I guess you Oh, yeah. No, I guess not. You should get arrested for that. Maybe they didn't press charges.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Oh, I guess. Yeah, I guess you don't press. Yeah, I guess you can choose. I mean, look, cops are bad. Justice system is bad. But still, it just feels like if you shoot a bunch of times
Starting point is 00:57:14 into someone's house, there should be something that happens. I think there should be a consequence. Some sort of something. At least take his gun. Take everybody's guns. Take everybody's guns. Maybe they did.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Maybe they did. But so Sarah runs up to harris as he's being wheeled into an operating room or something and gets like a moment to talk to him and she's asking about did you like do you know about deja dean like do you know what's going on who was this guy and harris tells sarah that sarah was going to be the fifth victim. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:49 And your mother killed him. Yeah. Because she found out from that switchboard, I guess. From the switchboard. Yeah. She knew all the secrets. That makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Loving this. Loving this. We're putting the pieces together. And so she buried him in the backyard in that place that she's been playing with the snakes and shit. Oh, God. But killed him in a cave. So I guess the spot where she killed him matters. We'll get there.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Okay. But yeah, just know she killed him in a cave, buried him in the backyard. So Sarah goes home with camera crew they all start digging in that spot and they find deborah's spade it's like they can't they don't see a body but they see the spade and they're like she got here first she already moved him and they're like but they somehow go up into the attic and they know that it's in the attic i guess because that's where the switchboard is she was like bringing it closer to switchboard or something but they go up in the attic they find the body it's like oh one thing they're all like they keep like gagging at how bad it smells and i I feel like that's like, oh, so gross. You can't smell a movie.
Starting point is 00:59:07 You can't smell a movie. But when everyone is being like, oh, stinky. Makes it gross. It makes it gross. Stinky, stinky. Even though by now it would just be a bunch of bones. It's not like a fresh body. No, but.
Starting point is 00:59:20 But it wouldn't. It takes a while for it to fully decompose. It would be part. I think it would only be partially decomposed, which probably be really stinky that's really stinky stinky it's definitely stinky they're all what movie is it that they oh it's old was it like how long would it take a body to decompose i feel like it's longer than however long it was and so they take it into the living room where the fireplace is and decide they're going to burn in the fireplace. They're going to burn in the fireplace.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Shove that thing in the fireplace. Build a fucking bonfire. What are you doing? No, keep it in the house. Keep it in the house. But the bones are in kind of a sack. Classic bones in a sack and as they set it down to light to start lighting the fire they hear something
Starting point is 01:00:07 in the sack that sounds a lot like a snake and Mia goes to to investigate no and there's like
Starting point is 01:00:15 five snakes come out of this bag ew and they're all screaming and it's very hectic and they're like okay fuck it just throw it
Starting point is 01:00:21 throw it in throw it all in burn the snakes burn the snakes who gives a shit fuck it and so they toss in the bag of bones and it just it won't burn and the fire just kind of explodes with this like a big forceful explosion and goes out and like they all like fly backwards
Starting point is 01:00:39 and it's like okay well well that didn work. And they get another call from the hospital. And Deb is gone again. And we go back and we play that surveillance footage. And we see her pulling her hands out of the restraints. And, like, all the skin of her hands coming off. It's just like gloves. Like gloves. No, I don't like it. Oh, it's so gross.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And she goes back down to the girl. I can't remember what the little... Oh, Kara is the girl's name. She goes back to get Kara and they leave the hospital and a security guard tries to stop them. And Deb attacks and kills the security guard.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Okay. With her bony hands. Her little meat hands. Her little meat hands. Ew. Her little meat hands. Gross. Ew, think about the skin on that bed.
Starting point is 01:01:43 I know, just like leftover hand gloves. The nurse is like, I don't get paid enough to deal with this. No thanks. So they quickly go in pursuit of Deb and Kara and
Starting point is 01:01:59 they kind of know where they'll be going. They can either be going to this cave. There's also a river that they kept saying, like, I'll wash you in the river. That's where Desjardins killed the four other victims. So they track them down pretty easily. And when they find them again, they're like holding hands and are still and quiet and creepy. But Kara is just saying, don't hurt him. He's a nice man. He's going to wash me in the river. saying don't hurt him he's a nice man he's gonna wash me in the river don't hurt him he's a nice man he's gonna wash me in the way she just like
Starting point is 01:02:32 on the loop like for the whole scene that's in the background of the scene as they're like it's so creepy and they try to restrain deborah and she spits venom on them. She goes like Oh my god! And it like burns into this there's police with them. They've got officer Tweed and another. Is this a snake? Yeah, I mean she's got that scaly skin She was spitting venom She shed her
Starting point is 01:02:58 skin. Yes, she was able to easily rip her like neck skin off. Yeah. She's a snake. She's a snake. She's a snake. She's a snake. What the heck? And she loves her baby little garden snake. She was playing with a little garden snake.
Starting point is 01:03:12 So yeah, we see this. She basically melts this guy's face, one of the cops' face, by spitting venom on his face and runs off. So Sheriff Tweed and Sarah and the camera crew are in pursuit. Sheriff Tweed like deb goes into an abandoned looking house sheriff tweed is like i'll go in i'm the one with the gun like you guys stay out here obviously sheriff tweed goes in we hear gunshot and nobody comes out and so eventually they go in and they just find officer Sheriff Tweed dead. Dunzo. No Deb.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Okay. And Sarah's like, okay, she's in the caves. That must be where she is. And she's got the little girl again, Kara. And so they start running to the caves and we just hear Kara screaming in the caves. So they know they are in there. Kind of a lot of kid stuff. I did say upon further reflection
Starting point is 01:04:09 there might be more than I previously thought. There's definitely, yeah, the worst kid thing hasn't happened yet. Cool. So much to look forward to. So much to look forward to. So they're crawling in these caves
Starting point is 01:04:26 and it gets like kind of like the descent now where it's very claustrophobic and guess what there's lots of snakes all over the cave so sarah's like crawling through snakes but she's feel about snakes i i'm scared of them i don't really mind them. I used to not mind them. As a kid, I had friends that had pet snakes. And so I would I have held snakes and been fine with them previously. But now now they freak me out. I don't know what happened. I don't mind them. But a large quantity of them is scary.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Yeah. And then like all move together is really free. I mean, I definitely don't want to like hold a snake or really come across. I would hold a snake. Once we've got two or more, I'm out. I'm out. I've walked into a garden shed one time and there was a massive snake on the wall and like that type of thing.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I'm like, I don't love that. Yeah, like in a garden shed, just like hanging out. Ooh, I hate that. That's more fun to me than it being on the ground. Because if it's on the wall, I'm like, okay, I hate that. Ooh, I kind of, that's more fun to me than it being on the ground. Because if I, it's out in the wild, I'm like, okay, I see you.
Starting point is 01:05:27 You know what? Once when I was in Puerto Rico in the caves, there were like snakes in the caves, but up. And I remember they were like, No, I don't want them to be up.
Starting point is 01:05:35 It was like, there were holes in the top of the cave that they were like, that's where the snakes are. And I was like, what? You're like, get me out. Get me out of here.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I don't want anything to like fall on me. Any creature at all. Yeah. Would you guys rather have to hold one really big snake or like 10 of the tiny little string beanie snakes? One big. I'd rather hold one big than one string beanie.
Starting point is 01:05:57 The string beans are creepy, right? They're creepy. The string beanies. The string beanies. I feel like there are a lot of snakes where I grew up I know where it is you know but I would feel like it could turn on you so much faster
Starting point is 01:06:10 but the little stringy could like go up your sleeve little string beanie my sister used to have a little string beanie my mom hates snakes if she's listening she's going to hate this conversation she will have turned it off by now. Sorry, Kate. Sorry, Kate. I just have always hated spiders more than snakes.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And it makes me feel like I don't mind snakes that much. You get one or the other. You really do get one or the other. And for me, it's spiders. Guess what? I dislike both. I probably dislike spiders more. I'm not a huge fan of either. But yeah, no spiders. Because my biggest childhood fear was that giant spiders were going to take over the
Starting point is 01:06:46 world and I was going to have to live in a dystopian future where giant spiders ruled my day to day. That'd be bad. We got to do arachnophobia one day, apparently. I know. Those movies really scared me. The second Harry Potter? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Really scared the crap out of me. Emily and I went to Universal Studios recently and the harry potter ride froze at the spider part no and we on the whole ride there we'd been talking about when rides freeze and like haha it sucks when a ride freezes when you're on it and then it was the first ride we went on and it froze wait what happens during the spider part there's just spiders in your face yeah there's just a lot of big, big spiders. I would not have liked that. One little bit. I didn't love it. No. I didn't love it, no. But then,
Starting point is 01:07:30 you know, we made it. It was fine. It was okay. But it did add, it did love it. It did make the rest of the ride a little scarier. It really did. I thought it could stop at any point. And there is one upside down part. So that was the, that was the real danger. That happened to somebody for sure. Yeah. Somebody was upside down when it stopped.
Starting point is 01:07:45 That sucks. It was only stopped for like 30 seconds, but even still. No, no. I wouldn't have liked that no matter what. I don't like roller coasters though in general. Anywho. Okay, so a bunch of snakes. Okay, so she's crawling through snakes and we're hearing Kara screaming and it's dark.
Starting point is 01:07:59 They have to switch the camera to night vision. Like it's, I don't know, they lose their flashlight or something. So it's just in night vision. So they can't see what's happening. They're just following the sound of the scream. It's all very stressful.
Starting point is 01:08:13 And then they catch up with them and can see Deb looking like she's anointing Kara with a snake in her hand. Is that just like anointing, like doing a little shoulder tap? Yeah, like that. Like anointing Kara with a snake in her hand. Is that just like doing a little shoulder tap? Yeah, like that. It's like anointing.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Yes. I, Deborah Logan, pronounce the Kara my snake princess. Okay. And so they're like really, really quietly sneaking up behind Deborah with that sedative shot that they have. So they just want to be able to get that in her, sedate her. Which they totally will. And of course, like they're just inching closer and closer.
Starting point is 01:08:57 She always finds the camera. She knows where it is. If there's one thing we know about Deb, she finds that camera and this is no different. She turns around. She lunges at them, attacks them. if there's one thing we know about deb she finds that camera and this is no different she turns around she lunges at them attacks them there's you don't really see what happens but there's all this commotion she gets away with kara and uh sarah is sarah and mia get the camera back and get find wherever the i don't know shot fell out of her hand so they find the injection again and then they go after her again. They're like, she went this way.
Starting point is 01:09:28 And you just hear this noise like a mouthy noise. No, no, no, no. And you can't see what's happened. There's like a little boulder pillar thing but you can see Deb's back behind it like she's behind this pillar but you
Starting point is 01:09:44 can't see what's happening. And they turn the corner. I don't want to know. And Sarah's face is just like shocked. And Deb is eating Kara. Oh, my God. Yeah, we knew it was going to happen. It was going to happen, but we didn't want it to.
Starting point is 01:10:01 She looks we're going to have to post an image of this because it's really crazy. It looks like a half snake person. Like she has done the thing where she has unhinged her jaw. Oh my God. So her whole mouth is over Kara's head. Like she has her whole head in her mouth. Oh my God. And it's just like.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Sammy, I would say this counts as kid stuff 100%. Oh, you mean the part where a kid gets eaten? Human turns into a snake and then eats a kid. That's like head first. That is honestly so fucking scary. That's kid stuff. That's kid stuff in my world, in my book. I think you're right.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Look, I made a mistake. But so I don't know. They are able to in this moment they lunge at her and she i think drops drops kara kara's still alive because she wasn't like chewing her she was just like swallowing her whole that's what steve's doing that freaks me out even more yeah yeah so kara's still alive and they're able to inject deb and then um they have desjardins bones and they decide to try to burn him there and they look they're like this could be it because this is i don't know the place that he died and maybe that's where he needs to be burned anytime you get a chance to burn burn you try to burn him burn the bones try to burn them try to burn those bones and they light them up and they do burn and it like i think again explodes like there's a big you know supernaturally type reaction when these bones are lit on fire and they're in caves which is very
Starting point is 01:11:36 scary and they had previously said like don't knock anything don't touch anything like we could get trapped down here and then an explosion happens and they just don't even like blink at it they're like okay great we did what we came here to do and they get out and it's fine okay that's a good that's a wow things took a turn for the better yeah right there yeah so they they get deb they get cara they get both of them out and then it goes back into more documentary style of Mia narrating and or no, we hear a news reporter saying that Deborah Logan is found unfit to stand trial. She did kill Officer Tweed. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Sheriff Tweed. Right. So they did. And the other guy, Poison Face. Poison Face. He might have survived. We didn't see him die. Oh, and the security guard.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Oh, yeah, security guard. So Deborah's committed some crimes. She's a murderer. She's a murderer. And so, but they rule her unfit to stand trial, so I guess she'll just be confined to a medical facility, something like that. And they follow up with Kara, who is now in full remission and they like go to her home and yeah the whole news story is just like an update on the on the deborah logan crime and it's like
Starting point is 01:12:54 and kara made it out okay and now she's in remission they film her at her home like having a birthday celebration and she's smiling her parents are so happy to have her home safe celebration and she's smiling her parents are so happy to have her home safe and the news reporter interviews her like out front of her home and says like what are you going to do now that you um now that you're home like what's what's your what's your plan and she says i have a plan but it's a secret and news reporters like oh how cute all right like that's it for you know ktla5 and as he's like saying goodbye kara just turns and looks at the camera and smiles an evil little smile that's the end of the movie what what so okay so do we think that deja dean then uh was a parasite into kara it seems like a little transference or something happening like yeah the burning of the bones didn't really work it only
Starting point is 01:13:53 worked for breaking it from well we need a sequel we need a sequel yeah i don't really know why it wouldn't why why that would happen why would that that happen? But, you know, who cares? It's spooky. It's spooky. Yeah. Oh, I did not like the snake stuff. I really didn't see the snake stuff coming. Yikes.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Oh, I really didn't like that. What a freaky little thing. Definitely the, like, scariest, nastiest parts were all the, like, body stuff. Yeah. That, oof, that hand part is tough. And taking a kid from the cancer ward, I mean, that's just like kicking below the belt, you know? Yeah. It's like, not okay. It's not okay.
Starting point is 01:14:29 No. At least take a healthy kid. At least take a healthy kid. Yeah. Oh, I hated it. Wow. So thank you, listeners, for choosing it. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:14:43 I love those Instagram polls i feel like they're fun they're great i know you never know you never know what people are gonna want yeah so follow us on instagram if you want to um vote in things occasionally i love an instagram poll no matter what it is i vote in them all the time yeah i always got to vote if i see one i'm i gotta do it i do too gotta press that button one way or the other it's addictive to know what the percentages are that's yeah exactly wow well happy freaking 2022 um unless a big y2k has happened by the time this comes out i'm gonna keep my fingers crossed that it hasn't. Things are going to be looking up. We're going to be playing piano.
Starting point is 01:15:28 We're going to be taking care of our bodies. We're going to be moisturizing. We're mostly moisturizing. We're going to really, really moisturize. So that our hands don't fall off like hand gloves. So that our hands don't fall off like hand gloves so we won't be able to peel our necks off. These are important things that are going to happen in 2022
Starting point is 01:15:48 oh my god okay well what was the voice why did we do that that's the sound that her look made the sound of her look is mew mew mew mew
Starting point is 01:16:04 that's the sound that is the sound. That is the sound of that. It actually is the sound. It really is. So Prima, it was scary. It was too scary to watch. Thank you, Prima. Thank you, Prima. Thank you, Prima.
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