Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE with Andy Knauer
Episode Date: October 9, 2019A murderous family, form-over-function interior decorating, and a group of friends who should have taken their horoscopes a little bit more seriously - we're talking Tobe Hooper's 1974 game-c...hanging slasher The Texas Chainsaw Massacre! Andy Knauer joins us as we continue our extra spooky October series. This week's film is Henley's own personal hell. Probably a good idea to skip the BBQ tonight. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
Hi, everybody. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for
those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I'm scared.
I'm Henley and I'm especially scared today.
I'm Sammy and I'm very brave. Very brave.
So brave.
Super brave.
Super brave.
I mean, did anything scary happen to any of us this week in the real world? Anything scary?
Did anything scary happen to any of us this week in the real world?
Anything scary?
My cats are sick, which is scary.
They're throwing up and I don't like that.
That's very scary.
So that's scary.
But a fucking awesome thing that happened is we charted, guys.
We charted! We charted!
Number 419.
Number 419 on the iTunes podcast. That's pretty close to number one by my calculations. It's pretty close to number one
By my calculations
Out of how many?
420?
That's not a question I care to ask
Yeah okay
I tried to figure that out but I couldn't
There's no information about that
I assume 419 is
Very very high
Yeah it's super high.
Yeah.
Not as high as 420 would have been.
420 would have been cool.
Somebody make a podcast and bump us down a spot.
Or bump us up 418.
Those are the only way to do that.
I will also take 69.
This is a podcast for grownups.
Yeah.
Very mature sense of humor.
I mean, I really think the scariest thing that
happened to me this week was
listening to Paranormal Activity. I mean, me too.
And having nightmares about
the movie I didn't see.
Yeah, I think we all had nightmares, right?
We checked in the next day and we had all
had nightmares. I did a lot of waking
up and being like, the first thought in my head
was Paranormal Activity. Yes, like demon, demon, demon. I'm being like, Henley, just shut it down right now. I did a lot of waking up and being like the first thought in my head was paranormal activity. Yes, like demon, demon,
demon. Just shut it down
right now. I would then close my
eyes and picture moments
that I again did not see.
Did not watch the movie. Exactly, didn't see it.
But I would close my eyes and I'd just be like think about her
standing there by the bed. Me too. I was like I didn't
fucking watch it. I think that was
the image that I kept coming back to as well. Yeah, it really scared me.
That was really scary. It scared me to as well. That was really scary.
Spooky. Yeah.
Really scary. We're keeping it going with
scary month. I mean, it's still October.
Scariest month of the whole dang year.
Spooky as hell.
And we are doing
one of Henley's very scariest
all-time movie.
She's not excited at all. Henley is not excited about today.
For our really loyal
fans, if you've listened to the first episode,
I did mention that the scariest movie
that I've ever seen is Texas Chainsaw Massacre,
the remake. So we
are not doing the remake today. We're doing
the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Doing the original, the 1974
Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
You're still not going to enjoy it.
Is it the same storyline?
I have no idea.
I think it's roughly the same,
but the remake is
just disgusting and sick.
This one kind of has some
fun elements, I'd say.
I knew you were going to get that one.
One thing I will not stand for
is anything in a scary movie
being described as fun.
Come on.
She got really upset
at that in all the movies.
When you were talking about the child eating
clowns. Really? Was that fun?
Yeah.
So I'm definitely like
anxious. My palms are sweaty.
And it's not even hot out.
It's not even hot out. It's not even hot out.
It feels like fall outside.
It feels like fall.
Well, hopefully our guest is not as scared as Henley and can handle it.
Guys, our guest today, he is a screenwriter.
He occasionally teaches screenwriting at the UCLA Extension.
He is a friend and drinker of coffee.
It's Andy Nauer.
Woo!
Welcome to the pod.
I'm really excited to be here and talk about Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Great.
Did anything scary happen to you this week, Andy?
Actually, yeah.
My cat disappeared.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
I'll give you the abridged version.
Five years ago, when... I love that that's where the abridged version starts.
That really caught me off guard.
When I moved into my place,
I bought this little house in Echo Park,
and after it's my house,
and I show up the first day,
and there's a lady there,
and she's like,
oh, by the way,
there's a cat that lives on your porch
I heard about this
that information was not given to you
prior
the first day I went to like open the door
for the first time I learned it was a cat
that comes to the house
so this cat's name is Cooper and
she lives on the porch
so
there's a lot of like raccoons and squirrels and skunks and other cats and stuff that kind
of do battle with her and she kind of defends the yard and that sort of thing.
Oh, nice.
So I took her to the vet once.
I was able to wrangle her and take her to the vet about two years ago or so.
But the vet did this botched job on her and he gave her the vet about um two years ago or so but the vet did like this botched
job on her and he gave her the shot and like he caused like an abscess so she has like this
lump that kept getting bigger and bigger until recently it was like the size of like a baseball
so she had like this giant liquid filled lump right so when her nemesis big handsome the cat that lives the cat that lives
down the street came over they get into like fights sometimes you know did you name him big handsome
that's what i call him i don't know who's real name doesn't matter but that's like whenever he
comes it's like on and they go at it yeah and you know I hear him and I open the door and I see him
running off and it looks like she
got hit with a water balloon
and I'm like oh my god
and he popped her lump
so
he popped
so her lump exploded and like
the liquid was everywhere
and I'm like oh my god but then
she hung around for the
rest of the day and was pretty cool with it all things considered and then the next day she was
gone and i didn't see it for two days she was gone oh no oh no have you guys seen the new rambo
no no okay feel free to spoil a few months i think right can I say she was after vengeance because she was gone.
And when she came back, she was just she kind of had like she looks like she's been shaken
up, like she did something maybe she's not proud of.
Like she was terrorizing Big Hansel.
Yeah.
So she's back and she's back.
It was like two and it was like almost three days.
She was gone by far the longest. Interesting. And her abscess is doing OK back. It was like two and a it was like almost three days that she was gone. Wow. Which is by far the longest that she's
been gone. Interesting. And her abscess is
doing okay now? It's like a flap now.
Oh my god.
It's like a flap. Do you think you need
to take her back to the vet? Well it's really hard
to get her in a cage. Oh. So yeah.
Wow. That's a great
story. So she's back. I'm glad she's back.
Oh man. I don't know if she's
100% herself yet. She's seen some shit. Yeah. She's had a tough couple'm glad she's back. I don't know if she's 100% herself yet.
She's seen some shit.
She's from Vietnam to Big Handsome.
Yeah.
Well,
thank you for being here after
such a traumatic week for both
you and Cooper.
What's your relationship to scary movies? Are you a big
fan? I am, yeah. I'm a big fan
of scary movies, particularly this type of scary movie.
The, uh, the kind of the slasher.
I'm not a big, like, parent, like, um, supernatural scares guy.
Okay.
Um, why?
Too scary or just not into it?
No, that kind of like does scare me.
Yeah.
That freaks me out.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
And it's the slasher ones that don't bother you.
Yeah, they don't bother me.
Cause it's just like, I feel like it's like, it's you versus them. ones that don't bother you. Yeah, they don't bother me because it's just like I feel like it's like it's you
versus them. You can get away.
You have more control and power when it's
another human being as opposed to
a ghost. Even playing field
sort of. Yeah. So all the ones
like all the ones, all the kind
of slasher flicks that Chainsaw
inspired. I love all those like
the Friday the 13th and the Halloween
and Halloween. Yeah. all those like the Friday the 13th and the Halloween and Halloween.
Is this like an historic movie in terms of like what came after
for that genre?
I would say that this movie
is one of the more influential movies.
That's cool. I didn't know that.
First slasher movies? It's one of them.
And some of the stuff
that they did in this movie I think definitely
you can see its influence in stuff that comes.
Cool.
If you're like Henley, you'll be extra glad to hear that it's time for another cocktail hour.
This week's cocktail is a michelada.
We made a pretty simple version of a michelada where you'll just need a Mexican lager.
We used Tecate.
Some Bloody Mary mix, lime, and tagine. Rub a lime wedge around
the rim of each glass and salt the rim using your tagine. Fill the glass with ice, add an ounce or
so of Bloody Mary mix, and then fill to the top with beer and garnish with a slice of lime.
Micheladas are one of my favorite drinks, and they're also perfect for grandpa's liquid diet.
That joke, like all good jokes, will only make sense much later in the episode.
So sit back, keep listening, enjoy your Michelotta, and enjoy the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
This is like the last kind of movie I'll ever see. So I know very little. It was also, I don't know if it was the first, but it was one of the movies that kind of
did like that Blair Witch style marketing where they were like, oh, this is real.
This kind of happened.
Right.
Is that based in fact?
Is it kind of real?
Not really.
So there was like a real life serial killer.
I think there was like a couple different serial killers that it's loosely based on.
The most famous one is this guy, Ed Gein.
And he would make like lampshades out of his victims and stuff like that.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
It was like, you know.
The casualness with which you said that.
It was like, I'm checking this out and it was like, uh-huh.
Wait, what?
So he would do stuff like that.
There's a little of that in this.
But there's no like...
And is Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs based on him
as well-ish? I don't know.
Oh, you know what? I bet that is.
Doesn't he kind of do the same sort of stuff?
Yeah, it's the same.
I mean, we don't fact check, so we don't know.
We don't fact check.
For those keeping up, we don't fact check here.
Jesus. Okay, well, that don't fact check here. Jesus.
Okay, well, that doesn't make me feel any better.
He made lampshades out of his victim.
What a wild specific.
The funniest, just kind of when I was researching this a little bit,
like I think it was in the Wikipedia,
it said that the director had hoped to get a PG rating.
I saw the post-it trivia too. Which is like the most absurd thing. That's pretty crazy. If you've ever in the Wikipedia. It said that the director had hoped to get a PG rating. I saw the movie.
Which is like the most absurd thing.
If you've ever seen the movie.
It's called Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
He was bummed that he didn't get a CG rating.
Because it's not actually that bloody.
And so he thought that that meant that it wouldn't be R rated.
Too scary.
He kept getting an X rating, and then
finally when they brought it down to R, he was like,
fine, release it as an
R-rated movie, I guess.
The only other trivia I looked at, which
means nothing to me, really, because I
haven't seen this movie, but I guess there's an actor who
plays an old man,
who isn't old in real life, and he plays an
old man at some point. Oh boy, you guys are gonna
hate that old man. I'm guys are gonna hate okay so he got into his makeup to be an old man which really took five hours um and because he
hated the process of going through his old man makeup so much he was like i'm not doing this
again we're filming all of my scenes before i take this makeup off. Oh my God. The whole process took
36 hours. Oh my God. I was going to say
was that like they shot all of
his scenes in 36
hours without stopping. I
guess. Yeah.
It was 100 degrees outside.
No AC because they're shooting.
I guess
a large part of it was a dinner scene
which has a lot of nasty shit in it, I guess.
Dead animals and rotting food and stuff.
And the stench was awful.
And the guy who plays the hitchhiker, I know that means nothing to me.
He said filming that scene was the worst time of my life.
And I had been in Vietnam with people trying to kill me.
So I guess that shows how bad it was.
Wow. That's extreme. Ins how bad it was. Wow.
That's extreme.
That's insane. Why did they give
that man that much power? That doesn't make
any sense. Also, it's gotta be
worse to be filming something for 36
hours than to just sit
through the makeup chair again. Yeah.
I mean, five hours in a makeup chair
sounds bad, but also like
what is your problem? Wow, yeah.
What a crazy thing to make everybody
suffer with you. What a drama queen.
That was probably his thing. A drama queen.
Like I had to suffer for five hours, now we're all
going to suffer. I'm going to inflict this back on all
of you. What's real life horror movie?
And you said a friend of yours is
very into this movie in particular? Yeah, well
this is a lot of people's favorite
movie, which is kind of why I was nervous about
coming on here
because I wanted to do
this movie justice
because it is a big deal
to a lot of people.
Right, you don't want
to let down the fans.
Yeah, exactly.
So I called him up
and one of the trivias
he gave me was that.
The makeup one?
Yeah, that he was saying
that scene took so long
and was so hot
and people were having
to leave and puke outside
and come back in
because of the night ride. Oh my god.
It's adding to the smell.
I'm sure.
Okay.
Also like all the
crew like
I mean were they at the union?
I have questions.
Wait Andy when was the first time you saw this movie?
I was probably like 15.
Did you watch it by yourself? Did you
watch it with a group of friends? Oh no, yeah, definitely
with friends. Definitely with friends. And then actually
when I went to film school, this was
screened. Oh, okay.
So at NYU,
Texas Chainsaw Massacre was part of the
curriculum. It was actually, I think it was
a horror movie class. I think I also did a
horror film class and this was in it. Wow.
Oh, you know, I'm really kind of excited.
Yeah, maybe looking at it through a more
academic lens. Yes, just be academic
about it.
This is an academic podcast
with the exception of facts.
There are no facts.
Should we watch this trailer?
Should we check it out? Let's do it. Ooh!
Come on, Franklin.
It's going to be a fun trip what's so kind of different about this movie particularly that time, was like how bright and open everything is shot.
It's not dark.
Yeah.
It has like a really welcoming color.
Welcoming palette.
I would not call it welcoming.
That touches on my reoccurring thing, which is I hate the dirtiness of it.
And when it's bright and dirty you
can really see it. This one is
filthy. Especially when we
get in that house. I had to stop
watching the trailer like a third of the way through.
That was the first trailer I couldn't
really watch. I couldn't. I just looked at
your reactions. Henley said it should be illegal.
It should be illegal.
This should be illegal.
Oh god. It's such a like middle aged mom comment
It's real that looks
That looks bad you guys it looks really bad
To watch
Um uh yikes
And multiple there are multiple
Murderers
Oh it's a family story
Murdering family
I don't think that's the case in the remake is it
I think it is
But you don't like that's the case in the remake, is it? I think it is. Oh, it is? I blocked that out.
But you don't know it until the end.
And I'd probably stop watching
by that point. Yeah, that trail. See, that for me
is such an example
of why I've stayed away from...
Well, I get scared of everything, obviously.
You guys know. You listen to the podcast.
I
though really
can't handle like
Loss of limbs
Limbs
Body horror I think is like what I've now learned
Is what you call it
That is like
I would want to watch a scary
Ghost movie and I'd be terrified
But like I can't even look
I can't even look at that trailer like it's so upsetting to me
Yeah I hated it This one's not for you This this was not for me but I'm excited to be walked through it
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Also, I didn't mention it's directed by
Tobe Hooper, I feel like. Right.
Has he directed other things that are
important? Poltergeist. Oh my god, yeah?
Yeah, he did Poltergeist.
Another fucking terrifying one. And he did Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2.
Oh, Poltergeist is one we should.
The buzz is back!
The buzz is back, stop it.
The buzz is back.
Okay, so it's like a group of friends
on a... He wanted this to be PG, sorry,
I just thought about that.
I'm seeing a trailer.
That's insane. That trailer isn't PG
Okay let's go
Okay so it's a group of friends
Sally, Franklin, Jerry, Kirk
And Pam
Sally and Franklin are brother and sister
Franklin is in a wheelchair
And they're going on a road trip
To like visit their
Grandparents old farm property
Right exactly the house that their
grandfather lived in.
And I think there's
reference in there to
visiting his grave
because there's been a
string of grave robbers
like robberies recently
and they just want to make
sure his grave is OK.
Where generally is this
taking place?
I believe it takes place
in Texas.
Oh, but I mean like
where in Texas?
I don't actually know where in texas i don't know it's definitely rural fair enough yeah um it's 1974 late 73 something yeah so yeah so they're in a van there's basically
two couples two couples and franklin franklin's the odd man now. Franklin is...
He's kind of like a...
Weird in like a...
In a fun way.
He's very funny.
They drive past a slaughterhouse, right?
And they...
Well, Pam is kind of giving some foreboding...
Oh, I love this.
Yes.
She's all into her horoscopeoscope and like she's like saying how
she's saying how saturn is in retrograde yeah she's like giving all the warnings about how
bad this is and how like evil stuff happens and she comes back to the horoscope a few times i'm
like yes pam yes um with you pam yes pam So yeah, they go by the slaughterhouses.
Uh-huh.
And they're talking about...
I think they're just talking...
Franklin's saying how they used to kill them with just basically a hammer to the head.
And how now it's better to do it with that quick little air gun.
Did you see No Country for Old Men?
Oh, yeah.
The guy runs around.
That's what he uses in that movie.
It's like an air.
Yeah.
So then they see a hitchhiker.
Yeah, as they're driving through the cattle farm.
A real freak.
A real freak.
Yeah, they pick up a guy that I could best describe would be the last person you'd ever
want in a vehicle.
Yeah, you would drive past this man.
Yeah.
You would not pick him up.
Yeah.
What's weird about him?
Oh, it's hard to like ever do on a podcast because it's just his like crazy body movements.
He has like a fur pouch necklace.
Yes.
That's holding all his things like a weird skinned animal bag around his neck.
Yeah.
He's very weird.
He has like a port loin stance.
Yes. Yes. And he's very weird he has like a port loin stance yes yes and he's very fidgety and yeah um
intense very intense and like laughing not put you at ease laughing bulging eyes and just yeah
just no one and immediately he goes on a tangent about how the new air gun style of slaughtering is garbage
and hitting them in the head with a hammer was the true way to do it because the air gun is like
putting people out of jobs because it's too efficient and so he's like all the good animal
hammerers out of work wow technology really, they gotta go back to the old days. That's the way to do it, is
slowly bludgeon. Okay.
There's been a lot of... Already I'm
teed up to feel pretty anxious.
Well, then if it couldn't get
more uncomfortable, he
takes... Franklin has a little pocket
knife with him. Yes. And this guy
borrows it and uses it to cut
his own hand open. Sure, why not?
For no particular reason, just to show that he's like
freak him out more i guess yeah and they're they do get freaked out and they're all kind of like
you know tiptoeing on eggshells around him like okay okay man like my favorite thing is that he
he pulls out from his pad he takes a polaroid of them and like he shows it to Jerry or Kirk maybe.
Yeah.
He shows it to Kirk and Kirk's like, that's a really shitty picture.
And then the guy's like, no, it's a great picture.
Give me five bucks for it.
Yeah, he's like trying to sell them the shitty picture.
He's trying to like sell them this picture.
Oh, God.
That he just took a friend and then they won't buy it.
So he.
He pulls out tinfoil.
And like gunpowder.
He does this like very methodically like unfolds the square
of tinfoil on his lap and sprinkles gunpowder on it but you don't quite know what it is and then
puts the photo and then lights a match and lights starts like this fire in the back seat of the car
of the van jesus and is just like laughing what kick this guy out of your car this guy should
not be in the car i think they do after that well no no because he shows that he has his own knife
yes so he that he then he he closes up the tinfoil and puts it back in his fur pouch okay
well it's like crackling and like still probably smoking and then he pulls a knife out of his straight razor
and yeah he's like i got one too he cuts franklin with it he just like slices franklin up his arm
and then they that's enough to get them there yeah they're finally drawing the line it's a bridge
too far as the van's pulling away he's like chasing after it and kicking his tires and smearing his
he like marks the van with his blood
like he puts like some kind of
sign on the van yeah
is this gonna be connected
to the rest of what happens I can't remember
well I would say that
this movie what it does really well is set
up there's a lot of like
kind of like would
seem like left turns but
they all do kind of come back yeah okay um so then they
go to a gas station i should say one of the things that my buddy told me there's a big discussion in
the van about uh head cheese oh right head cheese i don't like that combination of words well the
original title of the film was head cheese what yeah that's what he said head cheese is basically it's a real
thing and it's like parts of the pig or the cow or whatever the animal's head in like some kind
of gelatin and eaten at room temperature which is kind of nasty oh that's gross. Sounds very gross. No, thanks. Yeah, there is kind of like very strong undertones in the film about like vegetarianism.
Like, yeah.
You know?
Yes.
It's a commentary about vegetarianism.
It kind of is.
About like ill treatment of animals and how the ill treatment of humans might make you
realize what it feels like.
Yeah.
Okay. Shaving PG. To be slaughtered you realize what it feels like. Yeah. Shamed and PG'd.
To be slaughtered.
Yes, it's an educational film.
But okay, so then they stop at a gas station
and the gas station's like,
we're out of gas.
The gas station attended.
Well, back in the 70s, that would happen.
Sure.
And they're kind of in the middle of nowhere.
The guy's like, we're out of gas.
Just, we got some barbecue cooking up.
Stay for the barbecue.
And I think they get some.
I think Franklin.
I think.
Buy some barbecue.
Yes.
Someone buy some barbecue.
Oh, yes.
Because remember, Franklin has a sausage dangling out of his mouth for most of the next.
Yeah.
So they hook up.
They get this guy.
He hooks him up with some barbecue.
But no gas.
No gas.
But they have some gas left because then they like go up to their grandfather's property,
which is the. The abandoned property.
But the guy, the gas station attendant does say like, oh, like, don't go up there.
Like, why are you going up there?
Right.
Kind of warns them against it.
People around here don't like it when you're like snooping around.
Right.
And stuff like that kind of thing.
Right.
Kind of gives them another warning.
Yeah.
As if like Saturn and retrograde wasn't enough.
As if that wasn't enough.
Yeah. And, you know know bloody hand on your car they're doing a real good job of ignoring all the kind of yeah well we now as like a more knowing audience see as warning signs they're just kind of blowing
right through um i think uh pam also after this reads reads Franklin his like specific horoscope.
Well, at some point in there, she's like an unexpected person will make your day really miserable or something like that.
Real on the nose.
Not a horoscope you want to get.
But OK, so then they're at the like grandfather's old property, which like got run down 60 years
in like 10 years.
Like it's so run down.
But they said they were there when they were like kids.
So it couldn't have been that long.
But it's very, very run down and scary looking.
What's scary about it?
I want more details.
Well, there's like a weird, there's like a very weird spider nest in it at one point.
What?
A spider nest?
Yeah.
I thought they were daddy longleggers.
They look like daddy longlegs, but there's so many of them and they put a really gross
sound effect with it.
Just all the like-
The wallpaper was in disarray.
Just wood.
Very spooky.
All the wood is kind of like falling off the ceiling and walls.
Exposed laminate everywhere.
Yeah. It looks like someone half tore it down
and then stopped
but so the two couples
are like having fun kind of break off
into their like yeah and Franklin
can't because he's in a wheelchair he's having a difficult
time kind of
you know navigating the
situation and he's getting pissy
I don't blame him not one little bit I would also be mad yeah And he's getting pissy. I don't blame him.
Not one little bit. I would also be
mad. Yeah. But he's gonna get
more mad. They're all gonna get
mad to be there
pretty soon.
Yeah, Pam and Kirk, they
grab like a blanket
and like mosey down the hill.
Yeah, they're trying to like go to the old
river or something and it's dried up the hill yeah they're trying to like go to the old river or something
and it's dried up they're doing it yeah and while they're down there they're like oh they see another
hat like another farmhouse across the field and they're like oh maybe we can get some gas from
these guys i can trade in my guitar or something and we can come back and pay them you know when
we get to the gas station yeah Yeah. So Kirk and Pam.
Kirk and Pam.
Pam like hangs out on the swing set.
Out front of the house.
While Kirk goes in.
Oh no.
He's like knocks.
It looks empty.
It looks very bad inside in a way that I would immediately be like, no.
Does that when they show us like the interior right then?
Yes.
Can you show us the interior right then?
Yes.
So there's a room.
It's a red room, like a red wallpaper room with just animal skulls hung on all the walls.
And the skeleton couch.
I don't think they see the skeleton couch yet.
Okay.
But there's enough growth. There's like feathers all over the floor.
There's a lot of feathers, a chicken.
There was like bone sculptures.
There's animal pelts hanging from the ceiling. It's really sick in there. And chicken. There was like bone sculptures. There's animal pelts like hanging from the ceiling.
It's really sick in there.
And he's like, knock, knock.
Hello.
He's like, still doesn't feel weird to me.
Still feel comfortable.
Yeah.
So he's like, anybody home doing, you know, hello, that kind of thing.
Yeah.
And then he takes maybe two, three steps inside and then immediately Leatherface busts out of the kitchen
whops him over the head with like a meat tenderizer
and that's kind of the end of Kirk
yeah
pulls him into the red room
and slams like a metal
door shut like a butcher
room yeah
it happens like super
fast and from that point on the movie
definitely non-stop yeah it's non-stop
it's like an hour and a half
it's short
I don't know if that's the midway
but it feels like it's like
boom and we're off to the races
Pam's like outside
swinging away
just like Kirk
eventually
in my film class when we talked about
this what i vividly remember was the professor pointing out that the shot it's like a famous
shot in the movie where it kind of goes under the swing and you see pam kind of up from like
like a low angle and see because she's not wearing she's wearing a top with like no back
yeah so he gives you this really like uh good reminder that her back is exposed and you're looking at her back.
Right.
And then when she goes inside, Leatherface grabs her and he slams her on a meat hook.
So even though you don't see it, you don't see the meat hook go in her. You just spent like 30 seconds looking at her naked back.
So it's really
kind of hit you in a way that
you wouldn't have. Oh, I do
remember that from the remake.
I blocked out most of the movie, but I do remember that.
I remember the meat hook. But is it before
or after that where she's like in the
feather room? Should she go
in after Kirk? She goes in to look
for him. And I think maybe she like stumbles into the feather room first while she's
looking.
And it's like,
there's just feathers and bones like all over the floor.
And that's where this skeleton couch is.
What is a skeleton couch?
Oh,
I thought everyone would know.
No,
I would love some explanation.
Um,
it's disgusting couch made out of skeletons where it's like, um, I thought everyone would know. I would love some explanation. It's a disgusting
couch made out of skeletons where it's like
the arms of the couch
are human arm bones
and the legs
are legs.
They stretched it out.
They were into that.
It looks very scary.
The couch itself though is a couch cushion.
I don't remember.
I don't think there are cushions.
There's certainly not back cushions.
I think there may have been seat cushions.
This is like a bench situation.
Yes, I guess a skeleton bench.
Built to chop bones. Is it more of like an
art piece or like a functional piece
of furniture, would we say?
I can't imagine this
tenant relaxing on any piece of furniture.
I feel like these guys
are really into the
form over function
style.
A lot of
wind chimes with bones
that probably don't make very much sound.
Sure, sure, sure.
Their sole purpose is just to look very creepy was a live chicken there's a live chicken
in a cage there's feathers everywhere like there's 30 chickens worth of feathers yeah it's like
disgusting she's pretty nasty she's freaking out she like falls and is like panic looking around
and then yeah that's when i think leatherface comes in and grabs her.
So we should describe leatherface. Yeah let's describe leatherface.
Because you're not familiar with leatherface.
So he's this big dude. He's huge.
Big husky guy. He doesn't
speak. He doesn't know.
He doesn't even know.
We don't even know what his face looks like because he always wears
a mask of someone
else's face over his.
So he's this big
guy and he speaks with like oinks
and grunts. Oh god.
Which is not pleasant. A lot of squealing.
Oh no. Wow.
Wow. Yeah. Okay.
So he grabs her and he puts her
on that meat hook. God I really
don't like that image. Yikes. And
Kirk is on
the table unconscious or
probably dead already, I guess. I feel like
yeah. Probably dead because he's got
taken the mallet to the head quite a few times
and he revs
up his chainsaw. Oh no.
And just starts
going at Kirk, I guess.
He's just separating the meats.
Yeah.
So he's butchering him. Yes. I couldn't think of the word. Separ separating the meat. So he's butchering him.
Yes.
I couldn't think of the word.
Separating the meat.
Separating the meat.
Thank you.
That's like the... Meat doer.
Meat doer.
He's a meat doer.
He's doing meat.
I think he even may have had the butcher's jacket on.
Yeah, a little apron.
Yeah, a little apron.
He just wanted to get dirty.
He wears a creepy apron and gloves. Creepy gloves. Yeah, a little apron. He wears a creepy apron
and gloves.
He may have had gloves.
Do we see the chopping?
Or are we just like, it's implied?
Not really.
But you see the chainsaw.
I think it cuts as it starts.
You'll see him doing it
and blood hitting him.
You'll see their face in agony, but you won't see like the chainsaw digging into it.
Yeah.
Okay.
They do a really good job of making you think you saw stuff you didn't see.
Right.
They do a phenomenal job of that in this movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
Okay.
So then they're back at the van, right?
It's the other three.
Yes.
And by now, is it dark yet?
It's not dark yet.
No, it's not dark yet.
So it's Jerry, Sally, and Franklin.
Right. And Franklin's worried that the hitchhiker is going to come back and get him and he's like you think that that guy's
gonna like try and kill me like he seemed pretty crazy yeah yeah um and then jerry's like yeah
franklin like he's really wired franklin yeah he's kind of being a jerk to franklin he's like
yeah he's coming for you franklin you You know. And then I think Jerry decides
to like go look for
Kirk and Pam
because they've been gone for a while
and they want to head out now.
And so Jerry
Like leave? They're done? Well, I think they want to go back
to that gas station because the gas was coming
later that day, I guess
I think was what he said.
And so they're like, yeah, we
gotta find Kirk and Pam and then we can go back
to the gas station and then head
home, I think. Exactly. Would have been the plan.
But Jerry heads out
towards that house.
Right. He sees
the blanket that Pam and
Kirk were using.
So he knows that they're inside.
So he goes in okay he gets
into the kitchen yeah he goes down into the room where the meat hook and where all that
craziness just happened which is empty at the moment okay he's looking around so we think So he hears a noise coming from the freezer and opens it.
And Pam, like, pops out.
Oh, God.
Looking very not well.
She has been on a meat hook.
She has been on a meat hook.
Bad things have happened to her.
She's been in the freezer.
Is she alive?
She is alive.
Yeah.
She's like gasping and wanting assistance. Yeah. Which she's not going to get from Jerry. Which she's not going toping and yeah wanting assistance yeah which she's not gonna get from
jerry's not gonna get because oh no i hate that she's still alive by the way yeah you really want
the hook to kill her yeah definitely so i don't remember how did he get jerry was it with the
chainsaw or with the mallet um i think i think it was also the mallet the mallet they love the
mallet seems like a faster way to get it started. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, and they're just big, big fans of the mallet in general.
Jerry takes the mallet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is a mallet loving community.
Airguns put people out of jobs.
We love our mallets.
Okay.
So then it cuts back to-
So now it is nighttime.
Now it's nighttime and it's Sally and Franklin at the truck, at the van, and they're honking,
they've got the lights on, they're yelling, like, Jerry, Kirk, Pam.
And Sally is like, well, I'll go after them.
And Franklin's like, no, like, we have to stay at the van.
What if they come back?
They might come back.
At some point, he's like, let's just leave.
They're not coming back. van what if they come back they might come back at some point he's like let's just leave they're
not coming back yeah we'll like drive to the gas station and like hope that we meet them there or
something jerry was the driver and they don't have the keys so that's there's a moment where
he sees that the keys are gone and he's like he really freaks out and they get into a fight over
the flashlight into a fight over the flashlight because sally like, I'm going to go look for them.
And he won't give her the flashlight because he doesn't want her to go.
And he's like, fine, I'll just go with you.
And she's mad because she's like, I can't push you.
Like, it's heavy.
And it's like through.
It's not like the road.
It's like through the woods.
It's not the road.
It's through the woods.
And she's like a pretty small woman.
And he's a big guy in a wheelchair.
Okay.
And so, but he gets his way and she is pushing him through
the woods it's dark and scary oh no no no and then leatherface leatherface pops out he's got
the chainsaw this time and he gets franklin he gets franklin right down the middle. Right down the middle? Yeah, and the blood is spraying on him.
It doesn't show, like, actually what's happening to Franklin.
It's kind of more like on...
Down the middle, like, vertically?
Yeah, yeah.
Hot dog style.
Hot dog style!
Like a Texas Tommy.
If we're doing a school project, this is hot dog style.
I think he might go in for some hamburger style, too.
I forgot to say.
One of the opening shots of the movie, not to kill the momentum that we just established.
That's okay.
The opening shot of the movie is this dead armadillo, isn't it?
Uh-huh.
And it's just this creepy kind of like flies are on it thing.
Well, in the original, original cut, it was a dog.
And it was way
too intense for audiences.
No!
So they made it an object.
The way that our brains work is fascinating.
Yeah, we can't handle a dog. Don't you dare show me a dead dog.
Ardillo, who fuckers? Please, let's cut
people in half, though. I was gonna say, cut that guy in half
hot dog style.
I can't believe we skipped over this, too. There's like a voiceover in the though. I was going to say cut that guy in half hot dog style. I can't believe we skipped
over this too. There's like
a voiceover in the beginning. There's like
text but I didn't write down what it was so
I don't remember. I don't know if you're familiar
with John Larroquette but it was like. Oh right.
I mean no I'm not but.
He was a really big actor.
I still like him. He was a
big actor in the 80s. You probably
have not heard of the John Larroquette show
if you don't know
John Larroquette
no
seems like one
would necessitate the other
he was on Night Court
and he was in Stripes
Night Court
and he was damned
from Night Court
I mostly know
about Night Court
from 30 Rock
in that episode
right
where they recreate
Night Court
so he
I think that was
his first movie
and I'm almost positive
he also does the same
he reprises the voiceover
in the remake. Oh, in the remake.
Oh, that's fun. What does the voiceover say?
Just like, you know,
I think it's like the following events
took place in the summer
of 1973 and like
I remember it says like what made it all the more
sad is that they were so young.
So much life ahead of them.
Something like that. it so okay my
bad so okay we
just killed he just killed Franklin got sliced up
hot dogs and she just takes off
just right
yeah she's wearing unfortunate
bright white pants so she's very easy
to spot in this chase
also I saw a trivia
about this chase that the actor
playing Leatherface was just so much faster than her
That and what's so funny about this
Is like just slow down
But he kept
Apparently kept like doing weird
Things to like not
Catch her like zigzagging
Trees and like do and it's like
Just run slower
You're an actor
You're an actor run slower're an actor. Run slower.
I can't possibly slow down.
This was before, like, the bad guys moving really slowly would catch you in movies.
Oh, that is definitely a thing.
Yeah.
And, like, Friday the 13th, like, he's at this, like, slow pace walk.
Right.
And he's, like, catching up to people who are sprinting.
Right.
Yeah.
This one's too fast. They hadn't figured that out yeah uh well this chase goes on for a long time she runs into the house she runs back into
the house yeah but she doesn't know i don't think she doesn't know but oh god she runs upstairs and
there's a like you think two people sitting in this room and she's like, help me, help me, help me. And like goes up to this ancient old man.
Words can't describe how old he is.
Who we now know was a young man with an anger problem.
With a lot of five hours worth of old man makeup.
And he's kind of unresponsive.
and he's kind of unresponsive and she turns to the other body
which is just a like kind
of rotting corpse
of a woman. Oh my god. Old woman
and so
she's obviously
terrified, runs out of the room, trying to
run back down the stairs, leather face is in the
house now and so she
turns around and runs back up
and goes into another room and
jumps out the window. She just
jumps out of the second story window which like
was pretty badass and good for her.
She had to get out of that fucking house.
So she just flies through that window.
No hesitation. She gets away.
She has no car
and all her friends are dead. She makes it all the way back to the gas
station. Oh she runs.
She runs to the gas station. Oh, she runs. Yeah. She runs to the gas station.
Okay.
And the guy who earlier was like, you know, told them he was out of gas is like, it's
okay.
It's okay.
It's okay.
And he's touching her way too much.
Oh, no.
He's really hugging her and like stroking her and touching like her back and her arms in
a way that's really you like, no, he's not a good guy.
And it turns out that he's the third member.
Of the family?
Of the family.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, yeah.
Oh, God.
So, who's number two?
Well, the hitchhiker turned out to be the most normal guy of the group.
Even though these introduced such an insane insane person we'll get more into
the family dynamic in a bit here
um but yeah
so he's like he's like it's okay
it's okay like there's no one here now like
he's gone i don't i don't see
anybody and is like
relaxed trying to get her to relax
and she's like sitting and freaking out and
he like turns back around
with like rope in his hands and he's like okay like i'll get you where you need to go i just need to tie you up and she's like sitting and freaking out and he like turns back around with like rope in his hands
and he's like okay like i'll get you where you need to go i just need to tie you up and she's like
freaks out yeah he puts her in a sack he does yeah doesn't he put in like a
i know that they have a little scuffle in which he's hitting her with the broom
in a way that's really funny and like kind of smacking her. And he's I mean, it's like also extremely disturbing because they obviously all of the
whole family is getting a lot of pleasure out of just tormenting these people.
So he's kind of like giggling and smacking her with the broom.
She's freaking out.
And then I think he hits her hard enough and she is unconscious.
And then he puts her in the sack and throws her in the truck.
Yes.
And he's driving back to the house with her.
With her in the front seat. Okay.
With bench seats. Okay. You know.
Yeah. In the sack. Got it. And while
they're driving he's just
poking her, poking her with the
like a little baton.
And he's like going hey hey hey
just poking her with the baton. What the fuck?
It's really weird. Is she conscious at this point?
Yeah and she's fighting but she's tied up in a sack and he's just poking her with a baton. It's really weird. Is she conscious at this point? Yeah, and she's fighting,
but she's tied up in a sack
and he's just poking her with a baton.
He takes her back to the house.
Oh, you know, it's...
The house where the other three are dead.
So heartbreaking whenever there's a...
You're so close to escaping and then...
Yeah, false escape.
False escape.
And as he pulls up,
here comes the hitchhiker.
Yes.
And then the cook is later known, who's the gas station attendant, is the cook.
And he is like badgering the hitchhiker about like, you're going to give us away.
You're running around hitchhiking.
You shouldn't be doing that.
Gotta act normal.
Yeah.
You're the one robbing graves.
Stop doing that. you know, that kind
of thing. Right. Trying to get a handle
on them. Right. And then
they go in
and he does the same thing, kind of
badgering Leatherface. Yeah, they almost
do like a Three Stooges routine. What?
Right. Because he's like the Mo
and he's just like slapping him around
and like, do this, don't do that.
And Leatherface is like oinking as he's like paying attention.
So the hitchhiker and the cook, they both speak.
Yes.
With words.
Yes.
They use words.
But Leatherface does not.
No.
Correct.
But you get the idea.
That's almost like worse.
Well then, yes.
Yeah.
You get the idea that the cook is like the dad, right?
That's the vibe I got.
And like a very abusive dad. and they're all just like...
He could have been an older brother. They'd probably
get into that in the sequel. I'm not sure.
We'll have to find out.
He's definitely not a candidate for our hot
dads. He's not a hot dad.
Is anybody hot in this film? I meant to...
I can't forget to ask.
Jerry and Kirk were good looking guys.
Rest in peace.
So you get a little bit of the family dynamic
of just him being kind of the
abusive one but then the hitchhiker
kind of being like you're just the cook or whatever.
I guess that's a little later.
It's kind of like the Larry.
He would push back a little bit
but not too much.
But Leatherface is just squealing and oinking
and kind of cowering in terror.
He's obviously very submissive but just
likes to murder people.
They actually do a really good job through
that scene of getting out like the exposition
and like the back story because
they're like you're just a cook and like
you're the one robbing graves. Stop doing that.
So you kind of get the vibe of like what's been going
on. Right. You know.
And then they invite her to dinner.
They invite her to dinner. So this is the dinner. Oh, so this is the dinner scene.
This is the dinner scene. So this is the infamous
dinner scene. Gosh, I don't remember this at all
in the remake. I really blocked everything out.
She's just like kind of, they give her the head
of the table and they tie her down, I believe.
I'm trying to think what
was the order. So they tie
her to a chair in which the
arms are regular
arms, not skeleton arms. They're like
cut off arms. Maybe
Pam's arms. They look like
human arms. Freshly cut human arms.
Freshly cut human arms. And they tie her to
them? Yes.
And we should mention that Leatherface
has switched faces now and he's got
on his like evening wear face.
It has like women's
makeup on it. He's got a nice wig and almost like a geisha like white wear face. It has like women's makeup on it. He's got a nice
wig and almost like a
geisha like white powder face
with pink rouge. He's all dolled up for his
fancy dinner. His nice dinner.
With their guest. Oh my god.
Well.
The other two, do we see their faces
or do they also wear masks? No, no, no.
Do we see their faces? They've got faces.
They're just creepy looking guys.
Yeah.
Sure.
Okay.
And so she's kind of,
you know,
begging for her life
and freaking out.
They invite Grandpa
to dinner.
Oh, God.
So Leatherface,
and I don't know
if the Hitchhiker helps him,
but they go up
and they get Grandpa
and they bring him down.
This is the part
I like the least.
So Grandpa's at the other head of the table.
And they're just like talking Grandpa up like he's the man.
And how he used to do this and that.
He's the greatest cattle head smasher.
Yeah, he was like the greatest murderer of cattle and probably people ever.
Yeah.
And then they take her finger.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And they cut a little hole in her finger.
And they put her finger in grandpa's mouth.
And grandpa sucks her blood.
What?
And it's really, really gross.
What?
And she's like screaming and crying crying and they're all like laughing
they love to laugh at every bad thing that happens does grandpa like it yeah he's like a corpse he's
like a corpse person he's so old and like at death's door he does his best to suck on the
finger though and get as much blood as he can. So, okay. So the implication is that they're cannibals?
They like to drink blood?
Yes.
And you kind of get the implication when they're saying like he's just the cook that maybe
the barbecue they ate earlier is human barbecue.
Oh, okay.
Right.
Of course.
So the sausage that Franklin was eating was human.
Oh, yeah.
Humans are on the menu.
Ew.
Ew.
This is so gross.
Oh, God.
So, yeah.
So she's just like,
get me out of here.
Please don't kill me.
I'll do anything.
That was too much
for her to take
and I think she passes out
when he's sucking her blood.
She's just like so freaked out
that she passes out.
She wakes back up.
What a good like a
fucking instinct
of her body
to be like,
get out of here.
No, thank you.
I'm gone. This is all I, all I can good defense mechanism. No, thank you. I'm gone.
This is all I can take.
Yeah.
So she wakes back up.
Still in the same spot.
Oh, no.
Everything is still bad.
Oh, no.
They're like eating their dinner
and laughing at her.
And I think they like decide
or they say like,
we're going to let grandpa kill you.
Yeah, they're going to kill her. And they're like we're gonna let grandpa kill yeah well she's they're
gonna kill her and they're like let's let grandpa do the honors he's the best he used to be the best
right so i think leatherface holds her down that she he like a metal bucket they get a metal bucket
her head over it okay pin her like hold her head so that it's over the bucket but grandpa again is a corpse essentially is he like aware
of what's happening he can't i think his mental faculties are kind of there okay he's in a
wheelchair grandpa is confined to a wheelchair he can barely move on his own so they're positioning
on the soft food diet liquid diet he's doing only the blood so they're putting the mallet
in grandpa's hands for him
and it obviously keeps falling
out cause he
basically every time he raises it
to kill her it falls out
of his hand
it's quite funny it just keeps falling
and they're like oh come on grandpa
you can do it
and he keeps falling and they're like, oh, come on, Grandpa. You can do it, Grandpa.
And he keeps trying and like it kind of hits her once
in the fall
as it's like falling from his hands.
And so she's like
starts kind of bleeding from her head
and they're all just
laughing it up, having a grand old
time and
I think it hits her a couple times maybe two
times at least one legit at least one good one because she is bleeding quite a bit and then i
think is there just like a scuffle where she kind of breaks free i want to say that the hitchhiker
maybe gets fed up and wants to do it himself and there's like yeah while they're arguing over that
argue right there's a little argument over that and then she just busts out
and again jumps right through that window
yeah right she loves jumping through
a window
so she busts out she busts out it's
like dawn now okay and
she runs into the street or no
she's being chased by the hitchhiker
and leather face or after yeah maybe
and leather face or the hitchhiker
camera which one it is is like zigzagging behind
her because it's like clear that he's faster.
Probably Leatherface.
But he's like kind of fucking with her, I think, because it looked like I'm going to
get you.
Like, obviously, I can.
I'm faster than you.
She gets out into the road and a big semi truck is approaching and she's trying to And... She's trying to wave it down.
She's trying to wave it down.
And right as the hitchhiker...
The hitchhiker tries to grab her and the truck smashes him.
Just runs him over.
Oh!
Just obliterates him.
Yep.
Okay.
That's our first little bit of good news.
Things are turning around.
So the guy stops the truck.
Like, I just killed somebody.
What's going on here?
And he's like, as soon as he does, boom, Leatherface shows up like out of the woods with the chainsaw
and the dinner mask on his face.
And he's like running at them.
And they're like, right.
They're trying to get.
Yeah.
So they.
Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, a better check in.
Check what's happening. And oh, no, no, no, yeah, it's kind of like, oh, I better check in, check what's happening.
And oh, no, no, no, no, no.
The guy goes in his truck, quickly like assesses the situation, knows he can't, you know, it
takes a minute to start those big semis up and get him going.
So they go in.
He grabs like a crescent wrench and Leatherface is chasing him.
They're just running and Leatherface is chasing them, really waving
that chainsaw over his head. Very
menacing. He's catching them and the guy turns around
and just hurls the monkey wrench.
Well, not monkey wrench, but it's like a giant
crescent wrench. And boom, it hits
Leatherface right between the eyes and drops him.
I forgot. And he falls.
He falls down and
his chainsaw lands on his own
leg and it cuts him pretty bad. Cuts his own leg. Oh. And it cuts him pretty bad.
Cuts him pretty bad.
Yeah.
And he slows him down for-
A very painful squeal.
Okay.
Okay.
And then another car is coming.
Yeah.
The driver of the semi just keeps on booking.
Right.
Yeah.
And then a pickup truck is coming the other way. And Sally basically flags it down, hops in the booking. Right. Yeah. And then a pickup truck is coming the other way.
And Sally basically flags it down, hops in the back.
Right.
She's like screaming, flailing.
He like does like a little U-turn to pick her up.
She hops in the back.
Leatherface is back on his feet with the chainsaw.
And that dude in the truck is just like driving away.
Sally's just like laugh crying.
Yeah.
She's in the back of the truck.
away Sally's just like laugh crying yeah she's in
the back of the truck the last shot of the movie
is her like holding
on for dear life to like the truck
and like she's starting screaming
she's covered in blood her head is still like
bleeding and she's she's covered
in blood driving away and then kind
of as she sees that she's like going
to get away starts laughing and so
it's like yes it's like laughing at the end
she's like she's not going to be OK.
No, I don't know how you bounce back from this experience.
And then there's this really beautiful shot.
Oh, yes.
That's right.
That wasn't the last shot of Leatherface.
Oh, he's like having a little chainsaw tantrum.
In like this manic dance with his chainsaw, like as the sun is like rising behind him
I think that's the cover of the movie usually
yeah and he's just like
wailing like there's like
I don't know like a ballad like he's like Baryshnikov
with a chainsaw
and it went and just cuts and ends
just boom and it's just as fast as it started
wow that was his last
his last little dance
wow they really do just fucking go
they just go for it yeah they really the the deaths are not drawn out which is no they're
not the only good thing easily could have killed sally but they were just having too much fun they
were having a blast and they lost the opportunity that was was disgusting. It was gross.
I didn't.
I feel like you don't look as bad as I thought you might.
Yeah.
You didn't.
You don't look like Emily after Event Horizon.
Yeah.
I'm not fully catatonic.
That's the bar that we've now set.
I don't know, though.
I feel like I'm not going to be OK later.
I don't know.
I don't know what to say.
I you guys need to just discuss because I need to sit here and process i need to process i feel fine you think it should have been pg i think pg i stand um by that i think for because for me the hardest
part is like like i'll keep going back to fucking paranormal activity and sorry if you're not listening week to week. That's on you listeners.
And how
long they take to build
like it's getting worse. It's getting worse.
Right. Incrementally worse. This one
kind of is like you're in the house. You're dead.
You're in the house. You're dead. Right. Like here we go.
You come here. You're getting murdered. And like
with the exception of Sally in that part sounds
pretty tough. Like the first
half of the movie is this movie is pretty much setting up discomfort and weirdness and just
the feeling that something bad is going to happen.
It's just the setup.
All the horoscopes.
Yeah, the horoscopes, the weird guy, the no gas.
Everything is just like...
But once it starts,'s like non-stop
it's just like relentless
wow Penley you made it through
I did I did okay
I'm still like really sweaty
so
the oinking thing
I did not know before
this and that is
I don't like that at all yeah that is
because it also makes it seem like especially
like when he's the one who's like
scared of his brother or dad or whoever
you think it is like it is like he's been abused
yeah he's like sad and like
it is yeah I think that too like he's
like stunted like he can't he didn't
he was so like severely abused
something's like really wrong with him I mean obviously something's really wrong
with him but like it's almost like it feels, and maybe it's not like this watching, but with that
and with him changing faces for dinner, it's like there's something childlike about him.
Yeah.
He's super childlike.
Yeah.
Ooh, that's freaky.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so. I definitely feel like this the influence of this movie can be felt deep into like the 90s
har yeah like almost everything for like the next 15 years was all really touched by this movie
yeah very influential yeah um okay so when everyone goes to bed tonight and closes their
eyes what's going to be the image that you see from this movie um
well just now i i closed my eyes to try to think what i would what would it be and it's
i mean i'm sure in seeing it the finger dinner thing seems but oh i really like i get chills
thinking about him like stroking her oh yeah yeah. Because it also like. That moment of dread of being like.
Oh no.
Like that on top of.
I just like really.
I really hate that.
The feeling given by that moment.
Yeah.
He's creepy.
She's so scared and awful.
And it's also like.
Oh you don't even know.
It's about to get so much worse
and I really don't like that at all
I don't like any of it
I think the meat hook
obviously
the meat hook is bad
and then also just Leatherface generally
from the very brief part of the trailer
that I did see
he's such a huge
man
obviously wearing skin over his That I did see. He's such a huge man.
With obviously wearing skin.
Over his skin.
And that is not a fun thing.
To imagine someone like that.
Coming after you.
How does it stay on?
Does it tie around the back?
It's like a luchador mask.
It's like a full head mask. I see.
It looks like multiple skins
sewn together.
I did see some stitches.
There's some stitches. It's a whole
hood head
mask.
Wow.
I feel tired.
I don't. I was just about to say I feel
pretty good.
I'm feeling great.
I don't know whether it's the michelada
or what,
but I'm ready to lie
down. Yeah, you gotta lay down.
Apparently scary movies
give all of us low blood sugar.
That's what we learned.
Have a raspberry.
Well, thanks, Anne.
How do you feel? Do you feel you did this film justice?
I hope so.
I think you did a great job. I think you did a great job.
I think you did an amazing job.
Wow, this movie was fun.
We're all slowly confronting our fears.
Jenna confronted her paranormal
activity fear. Getting closer and closer to Halloween.
Getting closer to Halloween.
So it's a spooky month.
Spooky month. More spooks
to come. Yeah.
So get ready.
Get ready. And hey,
until then, goodbye.
Bye.
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