Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE with Andy Knauer

Episode Date: October 9, 2019

A murderous family, form-over-function interior decorating, and a group of friends who should have taken their horoscopes a little bit more seriously - we're talking Tobe Hooper's 1974 game-c...hanging slasher The Texas Chainsaw Massacre! Andy Knauer joins us as we continue our extra spooky October series. This week's film is Henley's own personal hell. Probably a good idea to skip the BBQ tonight. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I'm scared. I'm Henley and I'm especially scared today. I'm Sammy and I'm very brave. Very brave. So brave. Super brave. Super brave.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I mean, did anything scary happen to any of us this week in the real world? Anything scary? Did anything scary happen to any of us this week in the real world? Anything scary? My cats are sick, which is scary. They're throwing up and I don't like that. That's very scary. So that's scary. But a fucking awesome thing that happened is we charted, guys.
Starting point is 00:00:59 We charted! We charted! Number 419. Number 419 on the iTunes podcast. That's pretty close to number one by my calculations. It's pretty close to number one By my calculations Out of how many? 420? That's not a question I care to ask Yeah okay
Starting point is 00:01:16 I tried to figure that out but I couldn't There's no information about that I assume 419 is Very very high Yeah it's super high. Yeah. Not as high as 420 would have been. 420 would have been cool.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Somebody make a podcast and bump us down a spot. Or bump us up 418. Those are the only way to do that. I will also take 69. This is a podcast for grownups. Yeah. Very mature sense of humor. I mean, I really think the scariest thing that
Starting point is 00:01:47 happened to me this week was listening to Paranormal Activity. I mean, me too. And having nightmares about the movie I didn't see. Yeah, I think we all had nightmares, right? We checked in the next day and we had all had nightmares. I did a lot of waking up and being like, the first thought in my head
Starting point is 00:02:03 was Paranormal Activity. Yes, like demon, demon, demon. I'm being like, Henley, just shut it down right now. I did a lot of waking up and being like the first thought in my head was paranormal activity. Yes, like demon, demon, demon. Just shut it down right now. I would then close my eyes and picture moments that I again did not see. Did not watch the movie. Exactly, didn't see it. But I would close my eyes and I'd just be like think about her standing there by the bed. Me too. I was like I didn't
Starting point is 00:02:19 fucking watch it. I think that was the image that I kept coming back to as well. Yeah, it really scared me. That was really scary. It scared me to as well. That was really scary. Spooky. Yeah. Really scary. We're keeping it going with scary month. I mean, it's still October. Scariest month of the whole dang year. Spooky as hell.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And we are doing one of Henley's very scariest all-time movie. She's not excited at all. Henley is not excited about today. For our really loyal fans, if you've listened to the first episode, I did mention that the scariest movie that I've ever seen is Texas Chainsaw Massacre,
Starting point is 00:02:52 the remake. So we are not doing the remake today. We're doing the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Doing the original, the 1974 Texas Chainsaw Massacre. You're still not going to enjoy it. Is it the same storyline? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:03:08 I think it's roughly the same, but the remake is just disgusting and sick. This one kind of has some fun elements, I'd say. I knew you were going to get that one. One thing I will not stand for is anything in a scary movie
Starting point is 00:03:24 being described as fun. Come on. She got really upset at that in all the movies. When you were talking about the child eating clowns. Really? Was that fun? Yeah. So I'm definitely like
Starting point is 00:03:39 anxious. My palms are sweaty. And it's not even hot out. It's not even hot out. It's not even hot out. It feels like fall outside. It feels like fall. Well, hopefully our guest is not as scared as Henley and can handle it. Guys, our guest today, he is a screenwriter. He occasionally teaches screenwriting at the UCLA Extension.
Starting point is 00:04:02 He is a friend and drinker of coffee. It's Andy Nauer. Woo! Welcome to the pod. I'm really excited to be here and talk about Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Great. Did anything scary happen to you this week, Andy? Actually, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:18 My cat disappeared. Oh, good. Yeah. I'll give you the abridged version. Five years ago, when... I love that that's where the abridged version starts. That really caught me off guard. When I moved into my place, I bought this little house in Echo Park,
Starting point is 00:04:37 and after it's my house, and I show up the first day, and there's a lady there, and she's like, oh, by the way, there's a cat that lives on your porch I heard about this that information was not given to you
Starting point is 00:04:51 prior the first day I went to like open the door for the first time I learned it was a cat that comes to the house so this cat's name is Cooper and she lives on the porch so there's a lot of like raccoons and squirrels and skunks and other cats and stuff that kind
Starting point is 00:05:11 of do battle with her and she kind of defends the yard and that sort of thing. Oh, nice. So I took her to the vet once. I was able to wrangle her and take her to the vet about two years ago or so. But the vet did this botched job on her and he gave her the vet about um two years ago or so but the vet did like this botched job on her and he gave her the shot and like he caused like an abscess so she has like this lump that kept getting bigger and bigger until recently it was like the size of like a baseball so she had like this giant liquid filled lump right so when her nemesis big handsome the cat that lives the cat that lives
Starting point is 00:05:48 down the street came over they get into like fights sometimes you know did you name him big handsome that's what i call him i don't know who's real name doesn't matter but that's like whenever he comes it's like on and they go at it yeah and you know I hear him and I open the door and I see him running off and it looks like she got hit with a water balloon and I'm like oh my god and he popped her lump so
Starting point is 00:06:16 he popped so her lump exploded and like the liquid was everywhere and I'm like oh my god but then she hung around for the rest of the day and was pretty cool with it all things considered and then the next day she was gone and i didn't see it for two days she was gone oh no oh no have you guys seen the new rambo no no okay feel free to spoil a few months i think right can I say she was after vengeance because she was gone.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And when she came back, she was just she kind of had like she looks like she's been shaken up, like she did something maybe she's not proud of. Like she was terrorizing Big Hansel. Yeah. So she's back and she's back. It was like two and it was like almost three days. She was gone by far the longest. Interesting. And her abscess is doing OK back. It was like two and a it was like almost three days that she was gone. Wow. Which is by far the longest that she's been gone. Interesting. And her abscess is
Starting point is 00:07:07 doing okay now? It's like a flap now. Oh my god. It's like a flap. Do you think you need to take her back to the vet? Well it's really hard to get her in a cage. Oh. So yeah. Wow. That's a great story. So she's back. I'm glad she's back. Oh man. I don't know if she's
Starting point is 00:07:23 100% herself yet. She's seen some shit. Yeah. She's had a tough couple'm glad she's back. I don't know if she's 100% herself yet. She's seen some shit. She's from Vietnam to Big Handsome. Yeah. Well, thank you for being here after such a traumatic week for both you and Cooper.
Starting point is 00:07:40 What's your relationship to scary movies? Are you a big fan? I am, yeah. I'm a big fan of scary movies, particularly this type of scary movie. The, uh, the kind of the slasher. I'm not a big, like, parent, like, um, supernatural scares guy. Okay. Um, why? Too scary or just not into it?
Starting point is 00:07:56 No, that kind of like does scare me. Yeah. That freaks me out. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And it's the slasher ones that don't bother you. Yeah, they don't bother me. Cause it's just like, I feel like it's like, it's you versus them. ones that don't bother you. Yeah, they don't bother me because it's just like I feel like it's like it's you
Starting point is 00:08:06 versus them. You can get away. You have more control and power when it's another human being as opposed to a ghost. Even playing field sort of. Yeah. So all the ones like all the ones, all the kind of slasher flicks that Chainsaw inspired. I love all those like
Starting point is 00:08:21 the Friday the 13th and the Halloween and Halloween. Yeah. all those like the Friday the 13th and the Halloween and Halloween. Is this like an historic movie in terms of like what came after for that genre? I would say that this movie is one of the more influential movies. That's cool. I didn't know that. First slasher movies? It's one of them.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And some of the stuff that they did in this movie I think definitely you can see its influence in stuff that comes. Cool. If you're like Henley, you'll be extra glad to hear that it's time for another cocktail hour. This week's cocktail is a michelada. We made a pretty simple version of a michelada where you'll just need a Mexican lager. We used Tecate.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Some Bloody Mary mix, lime, and tagine. Rub a lime wedge around the rim of each glass and salt the rim using your tagine. Fill the glass with ice, add an ounce or so of Bloody Mary mix, and then fill to the top with beer and garnish with a slice of lime. Micheladas are one of my favorite drinks, and they're also perfect for grandpa's liquid diet. That joke, like all good jokes, will only make sense much later in the episode. So sit back, keep listening, enjoy your Michelotta, and enjoy the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. This is like the last kind of movie I'll ever see. So I know very little. It was also, I don't know if it was the first, but it was one of the movies that kind of did like that Blair Witch style marketing where they were like, oh, this is real.
Starting point is 00:09:53 This kind of happened. Right. Is that based in fact? Is it kind of real? Not really. So there was like a real life serial killer. I think there was like a couple different serial killers that it's loosely based on. The most famous one is this guy, Ed Gein.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And he would make like lampshades out of his victims and stuff like that. Jesus Christ. Yeah. It was like, you know. The casualness with which you said that. It was like, I'm checking this out and it was like, uh-huh. Wait, what? So he would do stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:10:25 There's a little of that in this. But there's no like... And is Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs based on him as well-ish? I don't know. Oh, you know what? I bet that is. Doesn't he kind of do the same sort of stuff? Yeah, it's the same. I mean, we don't fact check, so we don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:39 We don't fact check. For those keeping up, we don't fact check here. Jesus. Okay, well, that don't fact check here. Jesus. Okay, well, that doesn't make me feel any better. He made lampshades out of his victim. What a wild specific. The funniest, just kind of when I was researching this a little bit, like I think it was in the Wikipedia,
Starting point is 00:11:01 it said that the director had hoped to get a PG rating. I saw the post-it trivia too. Which is like the most absurd thing. That's pretty crazy. If you've ever in the Wikipedia. It said that the director had hoped to get a PG rating. I saw the movie. Which is like the most absurd thing. If you've ever seen the movie. It's called Texas Chainsaw Massacre. He was bummed that he didn't get a CG rating. Because it's not actually that bloody. And so he thought that that meant that it wouldn't be R rated.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Too scary. He kept getting an X rating, and then finally when they brought it down to R, he was like, fine, release it as an R-rated movie, I guess. The only other trivia I looked at, which means nothing to me, really, because I haven't seen this movie, but I guess there's an actor who
Starting point is 00:11:38 plays an old man, who isn't old in real life, and he plays an old man at some point. Oh boy, you guys are gonna hate that old man. I'm guys are gonna hate okay so he got into his makeup to be an old man which really took five hours um and because he hated the process of going through his old man makeup so much he was like i'm not doing this again we're filming all of my scenes before i take this makeup off. Oh my God. The whole process took 36 hours. Oh my God. I was going to say was that like they shot all of
Starting point is 00:12:09 his scenes in 36 hours without stopping. I guess. Yeah. It was 100 degrees outside. No AC because they're shooting. I guess a large part of it was a dinner scene which has a lot of nasty shit in it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Dead animals and rotting food and stuff. And the stench was awful. And the guy who plays the hitchhiker, I know that means nothing to me. He said filming that scene was the worst time of my life. And I had been in Vietnam with people trying to kill me. So I guess that shows how bad it was. Wow. That's extreme. Ins how bad it was. Wow. That's extreme.
Starting point is 00:12:47 That's insane. Why did they give that man that much power? That doesn't make any sense. Also, it's gotta be worse to be filming something for 36 hours than to just sit through the makeup chair again. Yeah. I mean, five hours in a makeup chair sounds bad, but also like
Starting point is 00:13:03 what is your problem? Wow, yeah. What a crazy thing to make everybody suffer with you. What a drama queen. That was probably his thing. A drama queen. Like I had to suffer for five hours, now we're all going to suffer. I'm going to inflict this back on all of you. What's real life horror movie? And you said a friend of yours is
Starting point is 00:13:19 very into this movie in particular? Yeah, well this is a lot of people's favorite movie, which is kind of why I was nervous about coming on here because I wanted to do this movie justice because it is a big deal to a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Right, you don't want to let down the fans. Yeah, exactly. So I called him up and one of the trivias he gave me was that. The makeup one? Yeah, that he was saying
Starting point is 00:13:38 that scene took so long and was so hot and people were having to leave and puke outside and come back in because of the night ride. Oh my god. It's adding to the smell. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Okay. Also like all the crew like I mean were they at the union? I have questions. Wait Andy when was the first time you saw this movie? I was probably like 15. Did you watch it by yourself? Did you
Starting point is 00:14:06 watch it with a group of friends? Oh no, yeah, definitely with friends. Definitely with friends. And then actually when I went to film school, this was screened. Oh, okay. So at NYU, Texas Chainsaw Massacre was part of the curriculum. It was actually, I think it was a horror movie class. I think I also did a
Starting point is 00:14:22 horror film class and this was in it. Wow. Oh, you know, I'm really kind of excited. Yeah, maybe looking at it through a more academic lens. Yes, just be academic about it. This is an academic podcast with the exception of facts. There are no facts.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Should we watch this trailer? Should we check it out? Let's do it. Ooh! Come on, Franklin. It's going to be a fun trip what's so kind of different about this movie particularly that time, was like how bright and open everything is shot. It's not dark. Yeah. It has like a really welcoming color. Welcoming palette.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I would not call it welcoming. That touches on my reoccurring thing, which is I hate the dirtiness of it. And when it's bright and dirty you can really see it. This one is filthy. Especially when we get in that house. I had to stop watching the trailer like a third of the way through. That was the first trailer I couldn't
Starting point is 00:15:55 really watch. I couldn't. I just looked at your reactions. Henley said it should be illegal. It should be illegal. This should be illegal. Oh god. It's such a like middle aged mom comment It's real that looks That looks bad you guys it looks really bad To watch
Starting point is 00:16:12 Um uh yikes And multiple there are multiple Murderers Oh it's a family story Murdering family I don't think that's the case in the remake is it I think it is But you don't like that's the case in the remake, is it? I think it is. Oh, it is? I blocked that out.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But you don't know it until the end. And I'd probably stop watching by that point. Yeah, that trail. See, that for me is such an example of why I've stayed away from... Well, I get scared of everything, obviously. You guys know. You listen to the podcast. I
Starting point is 00:16:41 though really can't handle like Loss of limbs Limbs Body horror I think is like what I've now learned Is what you call it That is like I would want to watch a scary
Starting point is 00:16:58 Ghost movie and I'd be terrified But like I can't even look I can't even look at that trailer like it's so upsetting to me Yeah I hated it This one's not for you This this was not for me but I'm excited to be walked through it um I'm just gonna take a deep breath I'm gonna work on disconnecting my emotions yeah it's academic it's academic hour yeah and we'll see how it goes. All right. So let's dive in. I used to love back to school shopping so much that I would tell my mom that I wanted to work at Staples when I grew up because I just loved getting all the things that I needed that I would use every day in class.
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Starting point is 00:20:39 Has he directed other things that are important? Poltergeist. Oh my god, yeah? Yeah, he did Poltergeist. Another fucking terrifying one. And he did Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. Oh, Poltergeist is one we should. The buzz is back! The buzz is back, stop it. The buzz is back.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Okay, so it's like a group of friends on a... He wanted this to be PG, sorry, I just thought about that. I'm seeing a trailer. That's insane. That trailer isn't PG Okay let's go Okay so it's a group of friends Sally, Franklin, Jerry, Kirk
Starting point is 00:21:11 And Pam Sally and Franklin are brother and sister Franklin is in a wheelchair And they're going on a road trip To like visit their Grandparents old farm property Right exactly the house that their grandfather lived in.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And I think there's reference in there to visiting his grave because there's been a string of grave robbers like robberies recently and they just want to make sure his grave is OK.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Where generally is this taking place? I believe it takes place in Texas. Oh, but I mean like where in Texas? I don't actually know where in texas i don't know it's definitely rural fair enough yeah um it's 1974 late 73 something yeah so yeah so they're in a van there's basically two couples two couples and franklin franklin's the odd man now. Franklin is...
Starting point is 00:22:05 He's kind of like a... Weird in like a... In a fun way. He's very funny. They drive past a slaughterhouse, right? And they... Well, Pam is kind of giving some foreboding... Oh, I love this.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yes. She's all into her horoscopeoscope and like she's like saying how she's saying how saturn is in retrograde yeah she's like giving all the warnings about how bad this is and how like evil stuff happens and she comes back to the horoscope a few times i'm like yes pam yes um with you pam yes pam So yeah, they go by the slaughterhouses. Uh-huh. And they're talking about... I think they're just talking...
Starting point is 00:22:51 Franklin's saying how they used to kill them with just basically a hammer to the head. And how now it's better to do it with that quick little air gun. Did you see No Country for Old Men? Oh, yeah. The guy runs around. That's what he uses in that movie. It's like an air. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So then they see a hitchhiker. Yeah, as they're driving through the cattle farm. A real freak. A real freak. Yeah, they pick up a guy that I could best describe would be the last person you'd ever want in a vehicle. Yeah, you would drive past this man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:22 You would not pick him up. Yeah. What's weird about him? Oh, it's hard to like ever do on a podcast because it's just his like crazy body movements. He has like a fur pouch necklace. Yes. That's holding all his things like a weird skinned animal bag around his neck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:40 He's very weird. He has like a port loin stance. Yes. Yes. And he's very weird he has like a port loin stance yes yes and he's very fidgety and yeah um intense very intense and like laughing not put you at ease laughing bulging eyes and just yeah just no one and immediately he goes on a tangent about how the new air gun style of slaughtering is garbage and hitting them in the head with a hammer was the true way to do it because the air gun is like putting people out of jobs because it's too efficient and so he's like all the good animal hammerers out of work wow technology really, they gotta go back to the old days. That's the way to do it, is
Starting point is 00:24:25 slowly bludgeon. Okay. There's been a lot of... Already I'm teed up to feel pretty anxious. Well, then if it couldn't get more uncomfortable, he takes... Franklin has a little pocket knife with him. Yes. And this guy borrows it and uses it to cut
Starting point is 00:24:41 his own hand open. Sure, why not? For no particular reason, just to show that he's like freak him out more i guess yeah and they're they do get freaked out and they're all kind of like you know tiptoeing on eggshells around him like okay okay man like my favorite thing is that he he pulls out from his pad he takes a polaroid of them and like he shows it to Jerry or Kirk maybe. Yeah. He shows it to Kirk and Kirk's like, that's a really shitty picture. And then the guy's like, no, it's a great picture.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Give me five bucks for it. Yeah, he's like trying to sell them the shitty picture. He's trying to like sell them this picture. Oh, God. That he just took a friend and then they won't buy it. So he. He pulls out tinfoil. And like gunpowder.
Starting point is 00:25:24 He does this like very methodically like unfolds the square of tinfoil on his lap and sprinkles gunpowder on it but you don't quite know what it is and then puts the photo and then lights a match and lights starts like this fire in the back seat of the car of the van jesus and is just like laughing what kick this guy out of your car this guy should not be in the car i think they do after that well no no because he shows that he has his own knife yes so he that he then he he closes up the tinfoil and puts it back in his fur pouch okay well it's like crackling and like still probably smoking and then he pulls a knife out of his straight razor and yeah he's like i got one too he cuts franklin with it he just like slices franklin up his arm
Starting point is 00:26:12 and then they that's enough to get them there yeah they're finally drawing the line it's a bridge too far as the van's pulling away he's like chasing after it and kicking his tires and smearing his he like marks the van with his blood like he puts like some kind of sign on the van yeah is this gonna be connected to the rest of what happens I can't remember well I would say that
Starting point is 00:26:36 this movie what it does really well is set up there's a lot of like kind of like would seem like left turns but they all do kind of come back yeah okay um so then they go to a gas station i should say one of the things that my buddy told me there's a big discussion in the van about uh head cheese oh right head cheese i don't like that combination of words well the original title of the film was head cheese what yeah that's what he said head cheese is basically it's a real
Starting point is 00:27:08 thing and it's like parts of the pig or the cow or whatever the animal's head in like some kind of gelatin and eaten at room temperature which is kind of nasty oh that's gross. Sounds very gross. No, thanks. Yeah, there is kind of like very strong undertones in the film about like vegetarianism. Like, yeah. You know? Yes. It's a commentary about vegetarianism. It kind of is. About like ill treatment of animals and how the ill treatment of humans might make you
Starting point is 00:27:42 realize what it feels like. Yeah. Okay. Shaving PG. To be slaughtered you realize what it feels like. Yeah. Shamed and PG'd. To be slaughtered. Yes, it's an educational film. But okay, so then they stop at a gas station and the gas station's like, we're out of gas.
Starting point is 00:27:56 The gas station attended. Well, back in the 70s, that would happen. Sure. And they're kind of in the middle of nowhere. The guy's like, we're out of gas. Just, we got some barbecue cooking up. Stay for the barbecue. And I think they get some.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I think Franklin. I think. Buy some barbecue. Yes. Someone buy some barbecue. Oh, yes. Because remember, Franklin has a sausage dangling out of his mouth for most of the next. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:16 So they hook up. They get this guy. He hooks him up with some barbecue. But no gas. No gas. But they have some gas left because then they like go up to their grandfather's property, which is the. The abandoned property. But the guy, the gas station attendant does say like, oh, like, don't go up there.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Like, why are you going up there? Right. Kind of warns them against it. People around here don't like it when you're like snooping around. Right. And stuff like that kind of thing. Right. Kind of gives them another warning.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah. As if like Saturn and retrograde wasn't enough. As if that wasn't enough. Yeah. And, you know know bloody hand on your car they're doing a real good job of ignoring all the kind of yeah well we now as like a more knowing audience see as warning signs they're just kind of blowing right through um i think uh pam also after this reads reads Franklin his like specific horoscope. Well, at some point in there, she's like an unexpected person will make your day really miserable or something like that. Real on the nose. Not a horoscope you want to get.
Starting point is 00:29:20 But OK, so then they're at the like grandfather's old property, which like got run down 60 years in like 10 years. Like it's so run down. But they said they were there when they were like kids. So it couldn't have been that long. But it's very, very run down and scary looking. What's scary about it? I want more details.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Well, there's like a weird, there's like a very weird spider nest in it at one point. What? A spider nest? Yeah. I thought they were daddy longleggers. They look like daddy longlegs, but there's so many of them and they put a really gross sound effect with it. Just all the like-
Starting point is 00:29:55 The wallpaper was in disarray. Just wood. Very spooky. All the wood is kind of like falling off the ceiling and walls. Exposed laminate everywhere. Yeah. It looks like someone half tore it down and then stopped but so the two couples
Starting point is 00:30:11 are like having fun kind of break off into their like yeah and Franklin can't because he's in a wheelchair he's having a difficult time kind of you know navigating the situation and he's getting pissy I don't blame him not one little bit I would also be mad yeah And he's getting pissy. I don't blame him. Not one little bit. I would also be
Starting point is 00:30:28 mad. Yeah. But he's gonna get more mad. They're all gonna get mad to be there pretty soon. Yeah, Pam and Kirk, they grab like a blanket and like mosey down the hill. Yeah, they're trying to like go to the old
Starting point is 00:30:43 river or something and it's dried up the hill yeah they're trying to like go to the old river or something and it's dried up they're doing it yeah and while they're down there they're like oh they see another hat like another farmhouse across the field and they're like oh maybe we can get some gas from these guys i can trade in my guitar or something and we can come back and pay them you know when we get to the gas station yeah Yeah. So Kirk and Pam. Kirk and Pam. Pam like hangs out on the swing set. Out front of the house.
Starting point is 00:31:10 While Kirk goes in. Oh no. He's like knocks. It looks empty. It looks very bad inside in a way that I would immediately be like, no. Does that when they show us like the interior right then? Yes. Can you show us the interior right then?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yes. So there's a room. It's a red room, like a red wallpaper room with just animal skulls hung on all the walls. And the skeleton couch. I don't think they see the skeleton couch yet. Okay. But there's enough growth. There's like feathers all over the floor. There's a lot of feathers, a chicken.
Starting point is 00:31:42 There was like bone sculptures. There's animal pelts hanging from the ceiling. It's really sick in there. And chicken. There was like bone sculptures. There's animal pelts like hanging from the ceiling. It's really sick in there. And he's like, knock, knock. Hello. He's like, still doesn't feel weird to me. Still feel comfortable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:56 So he's like, anybody home doing, you know, hello, that kind of thing. Yeah. And then he takes maybe two, three steps inside and then immediately Leatherface busts out of the kitchen whops him over the head with like a meat tenderizer and that's kind of the end of Kirk yeah pulls him into the red room and slams like a metal
Starting point is 00:32:15 door shut like a butcher room yeah it happens like super fast and from that point on the movie definitely non-stop yeah it's non-stop it's like an hour and a half it's short I don't know if that's the midway
Starting point is 00:32:32 but it feels like it's like boom and we're off to the races Pam's like outside swinging away just like Kirk eventually in my film class when we talked about this what i vividly remember was the professor pointing out that the shot it's like a famous
Starting point is 00:32:52 shot in the movie where it kind of goes under the swing and you see pam kind of up from like like a low angle and see because she's not wearing she's wearing a top with like no back yeah so he gives you this really like uh good reminder that her back is exposed and you're looking at her back. Right. And then when she goes inside, Leatherface grabs her and he slams her on a meat hook. So even though you don't see it, you don't see the meat hook go in her. You just spent like 30 seconds looking at her naked back. So it's really kind of hit you in a way that
Starting point is 00:33:29 you wouldn't have. Oh, I do remember that from the remake. I blocked out most of the movie, but I do remember that. I remember the meat hook. But is it before or after that where she's like in the feather room? Should she go in after Kirk? She goes in to look for him. And I think maybe she like stumbles into the feather room first while she's
Starting point is 00:33:48 looking. And it's like, there's just feathers and bones like all over the floor. And that's where this skeleton couch is. What is a skeleton couch? Oh, I thought everyone would know. No,
Starting point is 00:34:01 I would love some explanation. Um, it's disgusting couch made out of skeletons where it's like, um, I thought everyone would know. I would love some explanation. It's a disgusting couch made out of skeletons where it's like the arms of the couch are human arm bones and the legs are legs.
Starting point is 00:34:14 They stretched it out. They were into that. It looks very scary. The couch itself though is a couch cushion. I don't remember. I don't think there are cushions. There's certainly not back cushions. I think there may have been seat cushions.
Starting point is 00:34:31 This is like a bench situation. Yes, I guess a skeleton bench. Built to chop bones. Is it more of like an art piece or like a functional piece of furniture, would we say? I can't imagine this tenant relaxing on any piece of furniture. I feel like these guys
Starting point is 00:34:47 are really into the form over function style. A lot of wind chimes with bones that probably don't make very much sound. Sure, sure, sure. Their sole purpose is just to look very creepy was a live chicken there's a live chicken
Starting point is 00:35:07 in a cage there's feathers everywhere like there's 30 chickens worth of feathers yeah it's like disgusting she's pretty nasty she's freaking out she like falls and is like panic looking around and then yeah that's when i think leatherface comes in and grabs her. So we should describe leatherface. Yeah let's describe leatherface. Because you're not familiar with leatherface. So he's this big dude. He's huge. Big husky guy. He doesn't speak. He doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:35:36 He doesn't even know. We don't even know what his face looks like because he always wears a mask of someone else's face over his. So he's this big guy and he speaks with like oinks and grunts. Oh god. Which is not pleasant. A lot of squealing.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Oh no. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Okay. So he grabs her and he puts her on that meat hook. God I really don't like that image. Yikes. And Kirk is on the table unconscious or probably dead already, I guess. I feel like
Starting point is 00:36:07 yeah. Probably dead because he's got taken the mallet to the head quite a few times and he revs up his chainsaw. Oh no. And just starts going at Kirk, I guess. He's just separating the meats. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:23 So he's butchering him. Yes. I couldn't think of the word. Separ separating the meat. So he's butchering him. Yes. I couldn't think of the word. Separating the meat. Separating the meat. Thank you. That's like the... Meat doer. Meat doer.
Starting point is 00:36:36 He's a meat doer. He's doing meat. I think he even may have had the butcher's jacket on. Yeah, a little apron. Yeah, a little apron. He just wanted to get dirty. He wears a creepy apron and gloves. Creepy gloves. Yeah, a little apron. He wears a creepy apron and gloves.
Starting point is 00:36:48 He may have had gloves. Do we see the chopping? Or are we just like, it's implied? Not really. But you see the chainsaw. I think it cuts as it starts. You'll see him doing it and blood hitting him.
Starting point is 00:37:02 You'll see their face in agony, but you won't see like the chainsaw digging into it. Yeah. Okay. They do a really good job of making you think you saw stuff you didn't see. Right. They do a phenomenal job of that in this movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Okay. So then they're back at the van, right? It's the other three. Yes. And by now, is it dark yet? It's not dark yet. No, it's not dark yet. So it's Jerry, Sally, and Franklin.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Right. And Franklin's worried that the hitchhiker is going to come back and get him and he's like you think that that guy's gonna like try and kill me like he seemed pretty crazy yeah yeah um and then jerry's like yeah franklin like he's really wired franklin yeah he's kind of being a jerk to franklin he's like yeah he's coming for you franklin you You know. And then I think Jerry decides to like go look for Kirk and Pam because they've been gone for a while and they want to head out now.
Starting point is 00:37:54 And so Jerry Like leave? They're done? Well, I think they want to go back to that gas station because the gas was coming later that day, I guess I think was what he said. And so they're like, yeah, we gotta find Kirk and Pam and then we can go back to the gas station and then head
Starting point is 00:38:09 home, I think. Exactly. Would have been the plan. But Jerry heads out towards that house. Right. He sees the blanket that Pam and Kirk were using. So he knows that they're inside. So he goes in okay he gets
Starting point is 00:38:25 into the kitchen yeah he goes down into the room where the meat hook and where all that craziness just happened which is empty at the moment okay he's looking around so we think So he hears a noise coming from the freezer and opens it. And Pam, like, pops out. Oh, God. Looking very not well. She has been on a meat hook. She has been on a meat hook. Bad things have happened to her.
Starting point is 00:38:57 She's been in the freezer. Is she alive? She is alive. Yeah. She's like gasping and wanting assistance. Yeah. Which she's not going to get from Jerry. Which she's not going toping and yeah wanting assistance yeah which she's not gonna get from jerry's not gonna get because oh no i hate that she's still alive by the way yeah you really want the hook to kill her yeah definitely so i don't remember how did he get jerry was it with the chainsaw or with the mallet um i think i think it was also the mallet the mallet they love the
Starting point is 00:39:22 mallet seems like a faster way to get it started. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and they're just big, big fans of the mallet in general. Jerry takes the mallet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is a mallet loving community.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Airguns put people out of jobs. We love our mallets. Okay. So then it cuts back to- So now it is nighttime. Now it's nighttime and it's Sally and Franklin at the truck, at the van, and they're honking, they've got the lights on, they're yelling, like, Jerry, Kirk, Pam. And Sally is like, well, I'll go after them.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And Franklin's like, no, like, we have to stay at the van. What if they come back? They might come back. At some point, he's like, let's just leave. They're not coming back. van what if they come back they might come back at some point he's like let's just leave they're not coming back yeah we'll like drive to the gas station and like hope that we meet them there or something jerry was the driver and they don't have the keys so that's there's a moment where he sees that the keys are gone and he's like he really freaks out and they get into a fight over
Starting point is 00:40:20 the flashlight into a fight over the flashlight because sally like, I'm going to go look for them. And he won't give her the flashlight because he doesn't want her to go. And he's like, fine, I'll just go with you. And she's mad because she's like, I can't push you. Like, it's heavy. And it's like through. It's not like the road. It's like through the woods.
Starting point is 00:40:36 It's not the road. It's through the woods. And she's like a pretty small woman. And he's a big guy in a wheelchair. Okay. And so, but he gets his way and she is pushing him through the woods it's dark and scary oh no no no and then leatherface leatherface pops out he's got the chainsaw this time and he gets franklin he gets franklin right down the middle. Right down the middle? Yeah, and the blood is spraying on him.
Starting point is 00:41:06 It doesn't show, like, actually what's happening to Franklin. It's kind of more like on... Down the middle, like, vertically? Yeah, yeah. Hot dog style. Hot dog style! Like a Texas Tommy. If we're doing a school project, this is hot dog style.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I think he might go in for some hamburger style, too. I forgot to say. One of the opening shots of the movie, not to kill the momentum that we just established. That's okay. The opening shot of the movie is this dead armadillo, isn't it? Uh-huh. And it's just this creepy kind of like flies are on it thing. Well, in the original, original cut, it was a dog.
Starting point is 00:41:47 And it was way too intense for audiences. No! So they made it an object. The way that our brains work is fascinating. Yeah, we can't handle a dog. Don't you dare show me a dead dog. Ardillo, who fuckers? Please, let's cut people in half, though. I was gonna say, cut that guy in half
Starting point is 00:42:02 hot dog style. I can't believe we skipped over this, too. There's like a voiceover in the though. I was going to say cut that guy in half hot dog style. I can't believe we skipped over this too. There's like a voiceover in the beginning. There's like text but I didn't write down what it was so I don't remember. I don't know if you're familiar with John Larroquette but it was like. Oh right. I mean no I'm not but.
Starting point is 00:42:17 He was a really big actor. I still like him. He was a big actor in the 80s. You probably have not heard of the John Larroquette show if you don't know John Larroquette no seems like one
Starting point is 00:42:28 would necessitate the other he was on Night Court and he was in Stripes Night Court and he was damned from Night Court I mostly know about Night Court
Starting point is 00:42:35 from 30 Rock in that episode right where they recreate Night Court so he I think that was his first movie
Starting point is 00:42:41 and I'm almost positive he also does the same he reprises the voiceover in the remake. Oh, in the remake. Oh, that's fun. What does the voiceover say? Just like, you know, I think it's like the following events took place in the summer
Starting point is 00:42:56 of 1973 and like I remember it says like what made it all the more sad is that they were so young. So much life ahead of them. Something like that. it so okay my bad so okay we just killed he just killed Franklin got sliced up hot dogs and she just takes off
Starting point is 00:43:11 just right yeah she's wearing unfortunate bright white pants so she's very easy to spot in this chase also I saw a trivia about this chase that the actor playing Leatherface was just so much faster than her That and what's so funny about this
Starting point is 00:43:28 Is like just slow down But he kept Apparently kept like doing weird Things to like not Catch her like zigzagging Trees and like do and it's like Just run slower You're an actor
Starting point is 00:43:43 You're an actor run slower're an actor. Run slower. I can't possibly slow down. This was before, like, the bad guys moving really slowly would catch you in movies. Oh, that is definitely a thing. Yeah. And, like, Friday the 13th, like, he's at this, like, slow pace walk. Right. And he's, like, catching up to people who are sprinting.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Right. Yeah. This one's too fast. They hadn't figured that out yeah uh well this chase goes on for a long time she runs into the house she runs back into the house yeah but she doesn't know i don't think she doesn't know but oh god she runs upstairs and there's a like you think two people sitting in this room and she's like, help me, help me, help me. And like goes up to this ancient old man. Words can't describe how old he is. Who we now know was a young man with an anger problem. With a lot of five hours worth of old man makeup.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And he's kind of unresponsive. and he's kind of unresponsive and she turns to the other body which is just a like kind of rotting corpse of a woman. Oh my god. Old woman and so she's obviously terrified, runs out of the room, trying to
Starting point is 00:44:57 run back down the stairs, leather face is in the house now and so she turns around and runs back up and goes into another room and jumps out the window. She just jumps out of the second story window which like was pretty badass and good for her. She had to get out of that fucking house.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So she just flies through that window. No hesitation. She gets away. She has no car and all her friends are dead. She makes it all the way back to the gas station. Oh she runs. She runs to the gas station. Oh, she runs. Yeah. She runs to the gas station. Okay. And the guy who earlier was like, you know, told them he was out of gas is like, it's
Starting point is 00:45:31 okay. It's okay. It's okay. And he's touching her way too much. Oh, no. He's really hugging her and like stroking her and touching like her back and her arms in a way that's really you like, no, he's not a good guy. And it turns out that he's the third member.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Of the family? Of the family. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah. Oh, God. So, who's number two? Well, the hitchhiker turned out to be the most normal guy of the group.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Even though these introduced such an insane insane person we'll get more into the family dynamic in a bit here um but yeah so he's like he's like it's okay it's okay like there's no one here now like he's gone i don't i don't see anybody and is like relaxed trying to get her to relax
Starting point is 00:46:19 and she's like sitting and freaking out and he like turns back around with like rope in his hands and he's like okay like i'll get you where you need to go i just need to tie you up and she's like sitting and freaking out and he like turns back around with like rope in his hands and he's like okay like i'll get you where you need to go i just need to tie you up and she's like freaks out yeah he puts her in a sack he does yeah doesn't he put in like a i know that they have a little scuffle in which he's hitting her with the broom in a way that's really funny and like kind of smacking her. And he's I mean, it's like also extremely disturbing because they obviously all of the whole family is getting a lot of pleasure out of just tormenting these people.
Starting point is 00:46:52 So he's kind of like giggling and smacking her with the broom. She's freaking out. And then I think he hits her hard enough and she is unconscious. And then he puts her in the sack and throws her in the truck. Yes. And he's driving back to the house with her. With her in the front seat. Okay. With bench seats. Okay. You know.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah. In the sack. Got it. And while they're driving he's just poking her, poking her with the like a little baton. And he's like going hey hey hey just poking her with the baton. What the fuck? It's really weird. Is she conscious at this point? Yeah and she's fighting but she's tied up in a sack and he's just poking her with a baton. It's really weird. Is she conscious at this point? Yeah, and she's fighting,
Starting point is 00:47:26 but she's tied up in a sack and he's just poking her with a baton. He takes her back to the house. Oh, you know, it's... The house where the other three are dead. So heartbreaking whenever there's a... You're so close to escaping and then... Yeah, false escape.
Starting point is 00:47:42 False escape. And as he pulls up, here comes the hitchhiker. Yes. And then the cook is later known, who's the gas station attendant, is the cook. And he is like badgering the hitchhiker about like, you're going to give us away. You're running around hitchhiking. You shouldn't be doing that.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Gotta act normal. Yeah. You're the one robbing graves. Stop doing that. you know, that kind of thing. Right. Trying to get a handle on them. Right. And then they go in and he does the same thing, kind of
Starting point is 00:48:13 badgering Leatherface. Yeah, they almost do like a Three Stooges routine. What? Right. Because he's like the Mo and he's just like slapping him around and like, do this, don't do that. And Leatherface is like oinking as he's like paying attention. So the hitchhiker and the cook, they both speak. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:31 With words. Yes. They use words. But Leatherface does not. No. Correct. But you get the idea. That's almost like worse.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Well then, yes. Yeah. You get the idea that the cook is like the dad, right? That's the vibe I got. And like a very abusive dad. and they're all just like... He could have been an older brother. They'd probably get into that in the sequel. I'm not sure. We'll have to find out.
Starting point is 00:48:52 He's definitely not a candidate for our hot dads. He's not a hot dad. Is anybody hot in this film? I meant to... I can't forget to ask. Jerry and Kirk were good looking guys. Rest in peace. So you get a little bit of the family dynamic of just him being kind of the
Starting point is 00:49:08 abusive one but then the hitchhiker kind of being like you're just the cook or whatever. I guess that's a little later. It's kind of like the Larry. He would push back a little bit but not too much. But Leatherface is just squealing and oinking and kind of cowering in terror.
Starting point is 00:49:23 He's obviously very submissive but just likes to murder people. They actually do a really good job through that scene of getting out like the exposition and like the back story because they're like you're just a cook and like you're the one robbing graves. Stop doing that. So you kind of get the vibe of like what's been going
Starting point is 00:49:39 on. Right. You know. And then they invite her to dinner. They invite her to dinner. So this is the dinner. Oh, so this is the dinner scene. This is the dinner scene. So this is the infamous dinner scene. Gosh, I don't remember this at all in the remake. I really blocked everything out. She's just like kind of, they give her the head of the table and they tie her down, I believe.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I'm trying to think what was the order. So they tie her to a chair in which the arms are regular arms, not skeleton arms. They're like cut off arms. Maybe Pam's arms. They look like human arms. Freshly cut human arms.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Freshly cut human arms. And they tie her to them? Yes. And we should mention that Leatherface has switched faces now and he's got on his like evening wear face. It has like women's makeup on it. He's got a nice wig and almost like a geisha like white wear face. It has like women's makeup on it. He's got a nice wig and almost like a
Starting point is 00:50:28 geisha like white powder face with pink rouge. He's all dolled up for his fancy dinner. His nice dinner. With their guest. Oh my god. Well. The other two, do we see their faces or do they also wear masks? No, no, no. Do we see their faces? They've got faces.
Starting point is 00:50:43 They're just creepy looking guys. Yeah. Sure. Okay. And so she's kind of, you know, begging for her life and freaking out.
Starting point is 00:50:52 They invite Grandpa to dinner. Oh, God. So Leatherface, and I don't know if the Hitchhiker helps him, but they go up and they get Grandpa
Starting point is 00:50:59 and they bring him down. This is the part I like the least. So Grandpa's at the other head of the table. And they're just like talking Grandpa up like he's the man. And how he used to do this and that. He's the greatest cattle head smasher. Yeah, he was like the greatest murderer of cattle and probably people ever.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Yeah. And then they take her finger. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And they cut a little hole in her finger. And they put her finger in grandpa's mouth. And grandpa sucks her blood. What? And it's really, really gross.
Starting point is 00:51:43 What? And she's like screaming and crying crying and they're all like laughing they love to laugh at every bad thing that happens does grandpa like it yeah he's like a corpse he's like a corpse person he's so old and like at death's door he does his best to suck on the finger though and get as much blood as he can. So, okay. So the implication is that they're cannibals? They like to drink blood? Yes. And you kind of get the implication when they're saying like he's just the cook that maybe
Starting point is 00:52:11 the barbecue they ate earlier is human barbecue. Oh, okay. Right. Of course. So the sausage that Franklin was eating was human. Oh, yeah. Humans are on the menu. Ew.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Ew. This is so gross. Oh, God. So, yeah. So she's just like, get me out of here. Please don't kill me. I'll do anything.
Starting point is 00:52:31 That was too much for her to take and I think she passes out when he's sucking her blood. She's just like so freaked out that she passes out. She wakes back up. What a good like a
Starting point is 00:52:39 fucking instinct of her body to be like, get out of here. No, thank you. I'm gone. This is all I, all I can good defense mechanism. No, thank you. I'm gone. This is all I can take. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So she wakes back up. Still in the same spot. Oh, no. Everything is still bad. Oh, no. They're like eating their dinner and laughing at her. And I think they like decide
Starting point is 00:53:02 or they say like, we're going to let grandpa kill you. Yeah, they're going to kill her. And they're like we're gonna let grandpa kill yeah well she's they're gonna kill her and they're like let's let grandpa do the honors he's the best he used to be the best right so i think leatherface holds her down that she he like a metal bucket they get a metal bucket her head over it okay pin her like hold her head so that it's over the bucket but grandpa again is a corpse essentially is he like aware of what's happening he can't i think his mental faculties are kind of there okay he's in a wheelchair grandpa is confined to a wheelchair he can barely move on his own so they're positioning
Starting point is 00:53:38 on the soft food diet liquid diet he's doing only the blood so they're putting the mallet in grandpa's hands for him and it obviously keeps falling out cause he basically every time he raises it to kill her it falls out of his hand it's quite funny it just keeps falling
Starting point is 00:54:02 and they're like oh come on grandpa you can do it and he keeps falling and they're like, oh, come on, Grandpa. You can do it, Grandpa. And he keeps trying and like it kind of hits her once in the fall as it's like falling from his hands. And so she's like starts kind of bleeding from her head
Starting point is 00:54:17 and they're all just laughing it up, having a grand old time and I think it hits her a couple times maybe two times at least one legit at least one good one because she is bleeding quite a bit and then i think is there just like a scuffle where she kind of breaks free i want to say that the hitchhiker maybe gets fed up and wants to do it himself and there's like yeah while they're arguing over that argue right there's a little argument over that and then she just busts out
Starting point is 00:54:45 and again jumps right through that window yeah right she loves jumping through a window so she busts out she busts out it's like dawn now okay and she runs into the street or no she's being chased by the hitchhiker and leather face or after yeah maybe
Starting point is 00:55:01 and leather face or the hitchhiker camera which one it is is like zigzagging behind her because it's like clear that he's faster. Probably Leatherface. But he's like kind of fucking with her, I think, because it looked like I'm going to get you. Like, obviously, I can. I'm faster than you.
Starting point is 00:55:17 She gets out into the road and a big semi truck is approaching and she's trying to And... She's trying to wave it down. She's trying to wave it down. And right as the hitchhiker... The hitchhiker tries to grab her and the truck smashes him. Just runs him over. Oh! Just obliterates him. Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Okay. That's our first little bit of good news. Things are turning around. So the guy stops the truck. Like, I just killed somebody. What's going on here? And he's like, as soon as he does, boom, Leatherface shows up like out of the woods with the chainsaw and the dinner mask on his face.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And he's like running at them. And they're like, right. They're trying to get. Yeah. So they. Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, a better check in. Check what's happening. And oh, no, no, no, yeah, it's kind of like, oh, I better check in, check what's happening. And oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:07 The guy goes in his truck, quickly like assesses the situation, knows he can't, you know, it takes a minute to start those big semis up and get him going. So they go in. He grabs like a crescent wrench and Leatherface is chasing him. They're just running and Leatherface is chasing them, really waving that chainsaw over his head. Very menacing. He's catching them and the guy turns around and just hurls the monkey wrench.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Well, not monkey wrench, but it's like a giant crescent wrench. And boom, it hits Leatherface right between the eyes and drops him. I forgot. And he falls. He falls down and his chainsaw lands on his own leg and it cuts him pretty bad. Cuts his own leg. Oh. And it cuts him pretty bad. Cuts him pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah. And he slows him down for- A very painful squeal. Okay. Okay. And then another car is coming. Yeah. The driver of the semi just keeps on booking.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Right. Yeah. And then a pickup truck is coming the other way. And Sally basically flags it down, hops in the booking. Right. Yeah. And then a pickup truck is coming the other way. And Sally basically flags it down, hops in the back. Right. She's like screaming, flailing. He like does like a little U-turn to pick her up. She hops in the back.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Leatherface is back on his feet with the chainsaw. And that dude in the truck is just like driving away. Sally's just like laugh crying. Yeah. She's in the back of the truck. away Sally's just like laugh crying yeah she's in the back of the truck the last shot of the movie is her like holding
Starting point is 00:57:28 on for dear life to like the truck and like she's starting screaming she's covered in blood her head is still like bleeding and she's she's covered in blood driving away and then kind of as she sees that she's like going to get away starts laughing and so it's like yes it's like laughing at the end
Starting point is 00:57:43 she's like she's not going to be OK. No, I don't know how you bounce back from this experience. And then there's this really beautiful shot. Oh, yes. That's right. That wasn't the last shot of Leatherface. Oh, he's like having a little chainsaw tantrum. In like this manic dance with his chainsaw, like as the sun is like rising behind him
Starting point is 00:58:05 I think that's the cover of the movie usually yeah and he's just like wailing like there's like I don't know like a ballad like he's like Baryshnikov with a chainsaw and it went and just cuts and ends just boom and it's just as fast as it started wow that was his last
Starting point is 00:58:22 his last little dance wow they really do just fucking go they just go for it yeah they really the the deaths are not drawn out which is no they're not the only good thing easily could have killed sally but they were just having too much fun they were having a blast and they lost the opportunity that was was disgusting. It was gross. I didn't. I feel like you don't look as bad as I thought you might. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:52 You didn't. You don't look like Emily after Event Horizon. Yeah. I'm not fully catatonic. That's the bar that we've now set. I don't know, though. I feel like I'm not going to be OK later. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I don't know what to say. I you guys need to just discuss because I need to sit here and process i need to process i feel fine you think it should have been pg i think pg i stand um by that i think for because for me the hardest part is like like i'll keep going back to fucking paranormal activity and sorry if you're not listening week to week. That's on you listeners. And how long they take to build like it's getting worse. It's getting worse. Right. Incrementally worse. This one kind of is like you're in the house. You're dead.
Starting point is 00:59:35 You're in the house. You're dead. Right. Like here we go. You come here. You're getting murdered. And like with the exception of Sally in that part sounds pretty tough. Like the first half of the movie is this movie is pretty much setting up discomfort and weirdness and just the feeling that something bad is going to happen. It's just the setup. All the horoscopes.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah, the horoscopes, the weird guy, the no gas. Everything is just like... But once it starts,'s like non-stop it's just like relentless wow Penley you made it through I did I did okay I'm still like really sweaty so
Starting point is 01:00:15 the oinking thing I did not know before this and that is I don't like that at all yeah that is because it also makes it seem like especially like when he's the one who's like scared of his brother or dad or whoever you think it is like it is like he's been abused
Starting point is 01:00:34 yeah he's like sad and like it is yeah I think that too like he's like stunted like he can't he didn't he was so like severely abused something's like really wrong with him I mean obviously something's really wrong with him but like it's almost like it feels, and maybe it's not like this watching, but with that and with him changing faces for dinner, it's like there's something childlike about him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:56 He's super childlike. Yeah. Ooh, that's freaky. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so. I definitely feel like this the influence of this movie can be felt deep into like the 90s har yeah like almost everything for like the next 15 years was all really touched by this movie
Starting point is 01:01:16 yeah very influential yeah um okay so when everyone goes to bed tonight and closes their eyes what's going to be the image that you see from this movie um well just now i i closed my eyes to try to think what i would what would it be and it's i mean i'm sure in seeing it the finger dinner thing seems but oh i really like i get chills thinking about him like stroking her oh yeah yeah. Because it also like. That moment of dread of being like. Oh no. Like that on top of. I just like really.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I really hate that. The feeling given by that moment. Yeah. He's creepy. She's so scared and awful. And it's also like. Oh you don't even know. It's about to get so much worse
Starting point is 01:02:05 and I really don't like that at all I don't like any of it I think the meat hook obviously the meat hook is bad and then also just Leatherface generally from the very brief part of the trailer that I did see
Starting point is 01:02:20 he's such a huge man obviously wearing skin over his That I did see. He's such a huge man. With obviously wearing skin. Over his skin. And that is not a fun thing. To imagine someone like that. Coming after you.
Starting point is 01:02:35 How does it stay on? Does it tie around the back? It's like a luchador mask. It's like a full head mask. I see. It looks like multiple skins sewn together. I did see some stitches. There's some stitches. It's a whole
Starting point is 01:02:50 hood head mask. Wow. I feel tired. I don't. I was just about to say I feel pretty good. I'm feeling great. I don't know whether it's the michelada
Starting point is 01:03:05 or what, but I'm ready to lie down. Yeah, you gotta lay down. Apparently scary movies give all of us low blood sugar. That's what we learned. Have a raspberry. Well, thanks, Anne.
Starting point is 01:03:20 How do you feel? Do you feel you did this film justice? I hope so. I think you did a great job. I think you did a great job. I think you did an amazing job. Wow, this movie was fun. We're all slowly confronting our fears. Jenna confronted her paranormal activity fear. Getting closer and closer to Halloween.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Getting closer to Halloween. So it's a spooky month. Spooky month. More spooks to come. Yeah. So get ready. Get ready. And hey, until then, goodbye. Bye.
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