Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE TURNING

Episode Date: February 5, 2020

Creepy kids, a haunted mansion, and a LOT of spooky things that get showcased and then never come into play - we're recapping The Turning! A standard horror film with the most perplexing ending imaginable. No guest this week! Just the three of us trying to figure out if Finn Wolfhard is a regular horny teenage boy or an EVIL horny teenage boy. Tune in to find out. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I am Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I like scary movies a lot. She's a freak. She's a freak, but we love her, and that's what this podcast is for. It's all about how much we love Sammy.

It's about, look, if you It's about Look if you love horror movies Or if you don't And you just want to know What happens in them That's what We're here for you That's what this is We're a recap podcast baby

Just recapping Just recapping We're just literally going to tell you What happens in a movie And if we can even do that Sometimes Even that's a little hard But we do a pretty good job

We do our best And we do it for us And I love what we do And that's all that matters And that's all that matters if you love what you do you never work a day in your life this is not a job this is not our jobs um did anything scary happen to us this week um i this week had to you know how returns, you return them unwrapped now. Sometimes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unboxed.

Yeah, they're like, we can take this. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's actually, it's really cool and I like it a lot, but I had purchased a bidet. Wait, but you have a bidet. Yes, it was for a white elephant gift for somebody else. They didn't want your bidet. And then I missed the white elephant party. And so.

Okay. Extra bidet. I went to return it and I was really sweating the whole like walk over. I was like, oh God, oh God, oh God. I have to hand them this bidet and ask for my money back. And it was totally fine. And she was really nice. She was so sweet.

She called it. Oh, and you're returning this spa toilet seat. Oh, spa toilet seat. spa toilet thank you so much that's exactly right speaking of spa toilet seats i i'm still intimidated by bidets but you know what i can absolutely get behind a warmed toilet seat yeah oh my god um that sounds lovely i love bidets also though i know you will say i stayed in a hotel recently that had, it was a bidet, but also the toilet seat was always warm and it was lovely. I feel like Jenna just went to a party that, uh.

What? It blew on your butt? I had a dryer. A dryer. So we should mention, for those just joining, for those just joining the pod, we do have a silent contributor, Jenna, who's here, but she will not say a word. But right now she is describing to us a toilet at a party. It's like a little charade situation.

And it's a gentle, warm air, warm air on you. A gentle breeze on you. There's all kinds of toilets. Have I told you guys? Have I told you guys that Netflix has bidets in every bathroom? Really? My God. That's amazing.

That's the biggest perk I've heard yet. I exclusively use bidets when I'm bored Really? Oh my God. That's amazing. That's the biggest perk I've heard yet. I exclusively use bidets when I'm... I gotta get on board. I gotta get on board. And all the toilet seats are warmed.

Oh my God. I mean, it's still a little too much, probably. It's not. It's... I don't think I've told anyone because I wouldn't blame you

for hating me afterwards. I have to work there. What do I do? What do I have to do? Did anything scary happen to you, Henley? Oh, well, I watched the movie this week. You did? I went with Sammy to go see... You guys are very brave. I'm the only

one who gets to hear about it. Here's the thing. It was PG-13. But to me, to me, that's not about scare factor. Do you know? A scary movie can still be PG-13, I think. Yeah. This was not that scary.

You also thought this was bad. But before we get to that, I need to say that a scary thing did happen to me this week. Yes. Emily, tell us. Well, I think it happened to all of us, but I, but, so there was an earthquake. There was a small, it was small. Oh, yeah. But close. think it happened to all of us but i but so there was an earthquake there was a small it was small but close and i um for those listening we're in los angeles where there are earthquakes and i am

not from here and i'm very scared by earthquakes you guys have been with me for some earthquakes yeah we had one together we had a real crazy we had a crazy earthquake last year we were all together for it um so i'm very very scared by them in general the idea that the earth moves and you have no way to control it is fucking so scary um this one wasn't too bad but it was it happened like close to midnight and it was quick but i my first thought was oh my cat jumped on my bed and then i remembered she wasn't in my room and i shut the door so i i jumped out of bed threw the lights on i was like what the fuck is in my room like i true i was like they're like i've ruined the demon i thought like something like because it felt the way because it came from the earth so it makes sense but my it felt like something jumped up from under my bed

like like pushed my bed up from underneath and i i really thought it was a demon and and i threw my lights on and was like what the fuck just happened and i did as as we all do when there are earthquakes or anything i went on twitter and was like was there an earthquake and i saw other people being like crazy earthquake was like oh thank fucking god it was an earthquake because i was really very scared and i think that's a direct result of doing this podcast i slept slept through it. One other quick scary thing that just happened to all of us is the fact that I was going to say we have to say it. I thought for sure someone would say it.

Emily's cat, Mabel. Yes, we recorded my place. If you ever hear a cat mentioned, it is my cat. She's very affectionate. She's very affectionate. Her name is Mabel. She was enjoying a nice long scratch on my lap. And then afterwards, got up, kind of stumbled over to Sammy's purse.

And made herself comfortable. Was really trying to make herself comfortable. And then for a split second, we were like, is she going to pee? And then she very quickly pooped. The quickest. The quickest. Poop flew out of her butt. pooped the quickest the quickest who flew out of her butt anyone in the living world has ever had all over sammy's bag um it was instant there was no time to react it was the craziest thing i've ever seen um it was the craziest thing i've ever seen and And I'm so sorry. It's okay.

It's a washable bag. It was a tote. And it was worth the laugh. It was a big laugh. I can't believe it happened. I also can't believe I'm letting her sleep on my lap right now. Well, she's fine now. She got it out.

And I also, I'm, is this why people listen to our podcast? Write it and tell us. The thing about hosting a podcast is we can talk about whatever we want especially because this week there's no guests there's no guests

it's just us yeah it's just us baby no I feel like the guest provides like a nice boundary for us like you know

social yes social behavior that just goes out the window when it's just us um we don't when it's just us. We don't. When it's just us, baby, we do have no cares in the world.

We take shits wherever we want. Super quickly. Very fast. So that's sort of where we're at today. Okay. So, Sammy, introduce this movie for us. I will. This week's movie was The Turning just

came out decided by an Instagram poll oh my god people were interested in it yes so follow us on Instagram if you want to vote in movies that we do The Turning was bad you chose wrong this time but

you know you did your best we disagree it's a crisp 94 minutes not too long directed by floria sigismondi that's a name written by carrie and chad hayes who are the writers of the conjuring oh okay yeah so some promising elements here yeah starring mackenzie davis okay i like her a lot. Finn Wolfhard, Brooklyn Prince, the little girl from Florida Project. Oh my God, what a cast.

Jolie Richardson and Barbara Martin. Is it Jolie Richardson or Jolie Richardson? It's Jolie? Jolie. Oh, I didn't know that. It's a cool name. She's very good. I think she's good in everything. I like her. Hi everybody. It is cocktail hour. And this week's cocktail is a turn of the screwdriver. It is believed that screwdrivers were created by oil workers

in the 1940s who added orange juice to their vodka and stirred them with the screwdrivers from their tool belts. Pretty cool. To make a screwdriver, excuse me, a turn of the screwdriver, you will need two and a half ounces of vodka, three ounces of fresh squeezed orange juice, a quarter ounce of simple syrup, and three dashes of orange bitters. You will stir all ingredients with ice in a Collins glass and garnish with an orange slice.

Cheers. Well, since we don't have a guest, should we just get right into trivia? Oh, I would love to get right into trivia. And I don't have a lot, but there was some production issues with this movie. It started production in 2016. This was a passion project of Steven Spielberg. Seems a little weird. What? Yeah. And

originally, Alfre Woodard was cast in it, and Rose Leslie was the main character, who's Ygritte from Game of Thrones. That would have been good. I like that. I like her. And five weeks before filming, Spielberg pulled the plug and he just felt like

they had like a last minute script rewrite that wasn't he I don't know he just was like oh this is not going to be good but they had already spent five million but also he's Steven Spielberg doesn't he get the final say of like never don't do that script rewrite I think they maybe then hired on

Chad and Carrie Hayes no no it was their script. That's weird. I can't remember. I guess I didn't write enough down of this trivia. But oh, my God, it is very poorly reviewed. Was it at 12 percent? 13.

That is gone up since last time I checked. That is very low. Well, that's my next trivia, is that it's one of only 21 films with an F cinema score. Oh, my God. Oh, I'm sorry that you had to watch it. The Grudge from this year is also one of the films. Okay, so when you look up this movie, it's not really a trivia, but when you look up this movie, the tags are from reviews confusing, boring, slow, plot holes, forgettable, creepy, unconvincing.

All of those ring true. Oh, no, you guys. Oh, no. It's based on the novel The Turn of the Screw, which another film was made of it called The Innocents, which we tried to also watch. We were going to try to do a little double feature, but The Innocents is like a Criterion Collection film and it's like only available for purchase on Blu-ray.

It came out in 1961. This story is an 1898 ghost story. That's cool. Yeah, so The Turn of the Screw is written by Henry James in 1898. It's a horror novella so short i did read it in college and remember very little about it um is it good i think that it was you know one of those stories that pops up that really changes the genre so it was like a

ghost story that came out in 1898 but it was important not good um i think it's good i think it is good is it scary i think it's pretty spooky yeah okay um but it was i mean as we will discuss when we talk about this movie um it was kind of the first time that we saw in popular literature popular culture like a ghost story that is either is it the ghost or is she going crazy? And it's really very ambiguous. You really don't know which one is which. And it probably influenced a lot. So now it feels like

old news. We've seen that before. We've seen it a million times. Everything in this movie is like, yep, it's just going by the beats. We'll get into it, but yeah, it's pretty bad. I would love, so as we get into it, again, we said we decided this via

Instagram poll. I would love to hear from listeners if you did indeed watch this movie, if you were disappointed by it, what your thoughts are because it got such bad reviews that I was intrigued again. You know when it goes so low that you're like, oh, I got to see it now.

Like, I think when something's at about like a 35 percent, that's when you're like, oh, I just won't see it. But then when it dips below 15, you're like, oh, this is special. Something happens. Well, you really called it, Sammy, because they weren't posting any of the reviews. Yes. And so you were like, oh, that's a red flag. If they're not posting them before the movie comes out, it's generally a bad sign. Yeah.

But it is still wild to think that there are movie executives that watch this movie and are like, yeah, that's good. Green light. Yeah. Let's let's not do another round of edits because that's all they needed to do. Well, at a certain point. Well, how many edits can you do? I mean, you guys see the movie.

It's clearly just needed one more round of edits. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. But one, another interesting thing about trivia is that Julie Richardson is the fourth member of her family to appear in an adaptation of The Turn of the Screw. Oh. Her grandfather.

Has there been more than that other, that one other one? There's also been other, there's's like i guess a other turn of the screw um films yes okay so her grandfather michael redgrave played the uncle in the innocence oh right vanessa redgrave's her mother huh her aunt lynn redgrave played the governess in the turn of the screw in 1974 and her uncle corin redgrave played the professor in one version wow whoa that's a lot of red grapes no that's a lot of red grapes well let's i mean dare we just get right into it um let's take a trailer break trailer break what happened to your last nanny like i'd tell. Everyone dies, Miles.

Did you see them? I don't want to play anymore. Hey! Why are you doing this? Stop now. We're not safe! Stop giving tales. Bad dreams? I know so little about this.

I know nothing about this movie, really. We're here in luck because we're going to tell you everything about it. Okay, so... Imagine a haunted house movie. Okay, I can. It's that. Great. What year did you say it takes place?

Oh, it doesn't matter because in this, it takes place right after Kurt Cobain dies for no reason at all. It's 1994. It starts. And is Kurt Cobain a factor? No, never again. No, they just. But they say that? I think they just put it.

They put it in the background on the television. On the television. I think just to give us a sense of time to tell us you were in the 90s. Very odd. And to make her outfits make more sense. She just has a... The outfits came first. They're like, we gotta put some context for these outfits.

These outfits are weird. We've gotta figure out why. I guess also it helps to do... They kind of have to make it before smartphones. You know? Yes, yes, yes. That's probably it. But it actually opens on a scene at this mansion of what we're

led to believe is the governess of this building, this mansion. It's like a compound. It's a beautiful, you know, imagine any mansion that you would see in a movie. It's that. Where in the country does this occur? I think it's Maine. Oh.

When I hear Haunted Mansion, I always think it's New England. In somewhere, right? Like, where else could it be? I don't remember it saying. I don't think it says Maine, but I read that it was Maine. Okay, great. And so this, like, governess is leaving in a real panic, running to her car, freaking out.

She has long, beautiful blonde hair. Yes. Okay. And it's like a gated property. Governance like a la Sound of Music, like a watcher of the children who live there? Yes. Yes. And she gets in her car and she drives.

She's trying to flee and the gate is closed and she runs out to try to open it. She's clearly very panicked and she's struggling to open it. Prying at the gate gets it open and then gets back into her car and then something

like jumps out, right? Yeah, you see like the silhouette of a man appear in her window and he has long scraggly hair. Yeah. And then it, that's the opening cuts okay cuts to kurt cobain on the news okay um if you're a new parent a bad day means you either ran out of coffee diapers patients or all of the above stocking up on cold brew and deep breaths are all you but at least hello bellows got your baby's butt covered hello bellow believes all families

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she's going to make a difference is go kind of help this abandoned girl yeah um um but before she goes she swings by the old mental institution to check on her mom okay they know her there clearly she goes there quite often and her mom is painting in a like emptied pool she's like got her little easel set up in an empty pool okay it's jolly richardson and kate tells her like oh i'm like going to go help this little girl take care of this little girl. And she's like, oh, taking care of a little girl like by herself. Like, oh, that's really hard. That's so hard.

Clearly, like she had a hard time raising Kate. And then she goes to the spooky mansion. Yeah. And apparently also one thing they do mention is that her mom's been getting worse oh oh so i think they say of from what i think she's just talking she makes a reference to all the um she kind of makes an obliquely references all the mail she's been getting from her mom um which i guess is getting increasingly more disturbing and she's clearly sending her like pieces of artwork that are disturbing. Like some kind of psychosis. Something.

Okay. Yeah. So then she arrives at the same mansion from the opening. Oh my God. You never saw it. I didn't see it coming. I was like, that's the same place.

Wow. And it just gets crazier from there. The end. Oh, God. OK, so so the caretaker there is named Mrs. Gross. And she is like so. Gross. Gross.

She looks like Steve Buscemi. She's not. She's not. She's not gross. She's just like the most perfectly cast like creepy person she really does look like steve buscemi with like a perm and an old english wool sweater yes yes amazing and she tells kate that flora who is the little girl who she's coming to take care of who's the girl from the florida project Yes. She saw her mother die

in a car accident near the front gate. Oh no. And so things have been hard for her. She has a brother also who is away at school, boarding school. And Kate tries to tries to like identify

and bond and she's like she's like oh that's so sad my dad left when i was a kid or my dad died when i was a kid or something and mrs gross is like hmm she's like interesting for you like clearly clearly being a huge bitch not the same not wanting to bond not interested she's like i only care about flora I don't need to know about you. And I think the best line of the movie is when she says, they're thoroughbreds. She says, these are a different

kind of children. They're thoroughbreds. Oh my. But so she's like, oh Flora, Mrs. Gross says Flora's out in the horse stables. You can go, you know, meet her. She's exploring the grounds. They're huge. She finally gets to the stables you can go you know meet her she's exploring the grounds they're huge she finally gets the stables and it's she's trying to find flora and she's being

she's like flora like it's kate i can hear you it's just like groaning noises and then she like turns a corner and it's a horse and it like jumps up makes crazy noise and it's a little bit of a jump scare okay but then flora's like behind her and it's like hi i'm flora and it's a little bit of a jump scare okay but then flora is like behind her and it's like hi i'm flora and it's everything's fine she's super cute um and flora mentions that miss jessel is who's i guess her previous governess left without saying goodbye oh right and she's like you're not gonna you're not gonna do that are you and she's like no of course not like a promise like i would never do that what could possibly make me do that like there's literally no reason i would flee and not say goodbye and she gives her a tour yes so they

first like she gives her a tour of the grounds fl Flora is like showing Kate around and they go through the maze. They have like a shining style, like garden maze. And she says like, oh, it's like it's so easy to get lost in here. You have to make sure you know where you're going. Like, don't come out here at night. She says one time I got lost in here and I almost starved to death. Oh, no. I think so.

Something like that. It's like, what is that? That was bad. And this maze never comes into play ever again. Not seen again in the movie. Isn't that crazy? Oh, my God. What?

Not seen again in the movie, no. That's insane. You know what? It was just there as like an intriguing plot piece, you know? Like, you didn't need it for anything else. That's fucking crazy why even bother there's a lot of things like that well there are a lot of missed opportunities in this film this is a very scary maze where if you come here it'll be bad anyway we never will

goodbye i was gonna say there's something interesting to like setting up a trope and then like subverting it but that's like not what's happening here. They're just like spooky ambiance. Yeah exactly. Or they filmed something and it was so bad they had to leave it out. It does seem like maybe that's yeah. That's probably what happened. Oh no. So they

go inside. Flora's giving her a tour of the house and there's like a wing of the house that is spooky. I mean, don't go into the east wing. I don't know if you've ever heard that before, but if anyone ever tells you, oh, don't go into that part of the house, just leave the house. Just leave, get in your car, drive away. Or at the very least, don't go into that wing of the house.

Take people at their word and don't do it. in the house. Take people at their word and don't do it. And then they go into the Miss Jessel's old sewing room. Which is like off of her bedroom. I think it's like right next door. Yeah. Yeah. It's right next door. Kate

has a nice bedroom. She's very excited about the quality of her bedroom. She's like, this is mine. It's all mine. And then they go into Miss jessel's sewing room and there are oh wait before this they see the mannequin of her grandmother right they go into her room first isn't isn't that right i don't know it doesn't matter um there's a very creepy old mannequin that flora says is her great-grandmother yeah like a dress mold and yeah it's like a kind

of like porcelain head and maybe the dress body it is really creepy it looks like she's been crying and she was wearing a lot of eye makeup oh yes and her whole all her makeup is very smudged but she's a porcelain doll oh no and her hair is all wonky and it's this doll's not had a good good run of it right and they're like and this is in your room this is the decoration for your room oh and it lives in her room it's just like facing her bed she's like that's creepy fun um and then they go and then they go to the sewing room and there's some more like dress mannequins in there. And there is one who that has like 20 pins stuck into the nipple region. Oh, no, I don't love what that leads to probably. You know what?

It doesn't lead to anything. Oh, my God. We don't need anything to lead to anything. That's the general theme of this movie just some creepy stuff that never means anything and then it's gonna end and that's the movie that's crazy

but someone needs to be getting their nipple stabbed in a maze so Kate is like what's up with this and then Flora's like Miles did it Miles is her brother and kate's like retro miles sounds like a freak um and then kate tucks flora into a bed and it looked like such a cozy little bedroom it was a really nice bedroom and then flora makes her promise again that she's

not gonna leave she's like cross your heart and hope to die. Then she goes, stick a needle in my eye. Oh, that's right. And Kate's like, oh, not that far. Ha ha. Again, doesn't come back. So it doesn't matter. Great. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

Could have promised. Who cares? Well, then she goes to close the window and she pushes it down. There's a woman looking back at her in the reflection and it's a very big jump scare and it got me pretty good. I think that got me the most. Yeah, that was the most I jumped. That was the most I jumped. The highest I jumped. Yeah, because you were really

lulled into the air. I got three feet of air. I got scared too at that point for just one second. And so then she goes back into her room and she's like, well, obviously first order of business, I got scared, too, at that point for just one second. And so then she goes back into her room and she's like, well, obviously, first order of business, I got to move this fucking mannequin out of here. So then there's a long extended scene of her, like, dragging the mannequin into the sewing room and you're just waiting for something horrible to happen. Waiting, waiting, waiting.

And then she drops it in the sewing room. She walks out and then the mannequin head turns. Oh my god. I forgot about that. That was spooky. Never comes back. Never comes back. Not important to me. You can forget about that. Forget it. Forget it. Forget it.

But then she hears a noise, right? Coming from, guess where? The East Wing. Oh no. You're not supposed to go to the East Wing. She shouldn't go there. She shouldn't go there. What do you do if you hear a noise in a place you shouldn't go to? You continue to not go there.

There's literally no other choice but to go. You have to go. I mean, it's like. You have to go. You're like a bad person if you don't go. So she goes. She goes straight to hell. She does go.

That is what happens. And she like goes into this room, a bedroom, and there's like creepy moany noises. And it's dark and all the windows are open and the wind is blowing and it's spooky. And it's nighttime. It's nighttime. Door slams closed behind her. And she like panics. Do the windows slam closed too?

It's like something supernatural is going on. It seems. And so she panics and runs to the door and opens it and who is standing there but finn wolfhard is miles is he miles no it's finn wolfhard it's just finn i am finn wolfhard um it is miles correct and he's like a real creep he's like you should go to bed he's like he's like a dick to her you shouldn't be here you should why are you here he's really trying to demonstrate his range as an actor he's doing it i thought he was good at the right age of 14 and he's ready to prove what he can do he can do a lot um the thing that's one annoying choice that

this movie made and the other adaptations, or at least in the turn of the screw, Miles, I do remember, was like a cute little kid, like actually endearing and really cute. And then creepy things start to happen with him. And it's just they're like coming out the gate with like, he's creepy. Well, it's just less interesting when he's just like. I mean, they're like presenting him as like a horny little boy. That's like, oh, that's like he's like going through puberty and hence the nipple.

I guess I'm kind of realizing what they're doing as I'm talking about it, which is, yeah, he's a horny little teenage boy and they do it in a way. I don't think successfully, but what they're trying to do is make you confused about whether he's just like a horny little boy or like an evil horny little boy, like possessed by a demon. Is he a regular horny little boy like possessed by a demon is he a regular horny little boy or an evil horny little boy right right right and he's older than his sister yes and so he just like is creepy and

walks away and she goes to bed and the next morning they're all having breakfast together and the next morning they're all having breakfast together and the phone rings and yeah Flora answers it and is like they want to talk to whoever's in charge and yeah so the idea is this is a home with two children

a lady Mrs. Gross who's like the takes care of the home and then Kate who's like in charge. No, that's it. That's the house. That's interesting. Okay. And so she goes to the phone

and you can see that you don't hear what they're saying, but you can see that she's like not loving what she's hearing. Something disturbing happened for sure. And we know that it's Miles' school and she like looks unhappy and walks back in and is like, oh, they just like gave me some of your school assignments. Miles is very suspicious, though.

He's nervous. You can tell that he. He's like a horny little freak at school. He's scared of what she just discovered about him. And then she is obviously lying. And she's like, they just wanted to send over your schoolwork. Right. And then he gets

up to walk away and she's like, Miles, are you going to get your dish? And he's like, what? And then there's a standoff between the two of them. Manners. Dish or no dish. And then Mrs. Gross breaks it by being like that's

not that I think he first says like that's her job that's not my job he's like a little dickhead about it straight out he's like I don't do that like I don't clean up after myself that's why Mrs. Gross is here and so she and then Kate's like you can't like talk to her like that and Mrs. Gross is like yes he can it's an honor I will

clean it I love it I love it I love it I love to clean his dirty freaky dish she does she does come back to that a lot about what an honor it is to clean up after that horny freaks messy dish um yeah and then he like turns to floor and is like don't put your dishes away either like don't you dare try to do a chore and And then Miss Gross, she chastises Kate afterwards where she's like, how dare you? It's not what I do.

I love my life. Okay, so I don't know about the order of these things that I wrote here, but I'm just using your notes, so we'll go with it. Great. I know that she,

so Kate finds Mrs. Jessel's diary kind of halfway-ish through the movie, right? I'm trying to remember why it's even interesting that she finds the diary. Well, I feel like in the beginning, you know what I mean? What stuck out for me was like, could have been nice if you just read the whole thing at once. Well, that's huge.

She reads the diary entry a day and then by the end, she's putting it all together. It's like, should's like putting it all together. Yeah. It's like should have just read them all then. Yeah. If you find a diary with the person who fled your job before you read it. It's also the entries are like three sentence a piece. How long would it take to read a diary?

It wouldn't take long. Also crazy that they let that diary just hang out and live out in the open like that. But anywho we might as well talk about it. Just get there. She reads Miss Jessessel's diary um very very slowly i think the first thing that she reads is it says that miles and quint came home drunk together they're spending a lot of time together exactly oh okay that is the right question to ask and um it it's uh Jessel says, like, what a bad

influence Quint is on Miles. Yeah, she says he takes Miles and they spend hours alone together. I don't know what they're doing. The other night they came home and it was almost like they were drunk. And Miles is, how old do you think he is in this? Like 13? Yeah, 14. I have no concept for how old this actor is.

He's definitely between 10 and 16. I think he's like 13, 14. He's probably 14. He's Canadian. Anyway. I think she asks Miss Gross. I think she asks Miss Gross. What? Who was quit. I'm sorry. He's 17.

This actor, he's 17 years old. Well, they filmed it a couple years ago. But like, Finn Wolfhard is 17? He has beautiful skin. I don't like that at all. So she Well, they filmed it a couple years ago. But like, Finn Wolfhard is 17? He has beautiful skin. I don't like that at all. So they ask who Quint is. Miss Gross tells him he's the groundskeeper.

Yes, and that he died recently. But doesn't tell him anything else. I think she goes to try to talk to Quint. I mean, talk to Miles about Quint. To see if he needs any, needs a friend because his friend that he got drunk

with died. So she's like maybe you're an asshole because you know your friend died. Yeah you've had some stuff. Yeah so she goes to make amends and she's like I don't think things started well like let's start over and he's like yeah I don't think things started well either like you can apologize. He's still a huge asshole yeah and then um he picks up a little spider and feeds it to

a big spider this was truly the scariest part of the movie i think it was a jump scare he feeds a spider to a spider he throws a spider in this little a cage thing and then a big spider. A tarantula? Yes. Jumps out. That we're just calling a big spider. But you only see it for like one second. It's like one of those trapdoor spiders. So it like lunges out of a hidden little trapdoor and just snatches the little spider and then goes back in.

It was honestly the scariest part of the movie. It was very nasty. I hated it. And also if you guys watch the trailer, you'll see a lot of spider activity. I gotta tell you don't want to disappoint but that fucking spider activity doesn't happen in the actual movie no it's all regular spiders in the in the trailer it's like looks like a giant like a spider movie yeah a giant spooky ghost spider or something is in his mouth basically and that scene never happens in the movie. Never happens. Very interesting. So, what? That's why I'm saying it's an editing issue. It all got cut out with the maze

and the lady's head turned. Okay, so then... So she decides to take a bath to soothe her nerves. As one must. And she goes under and we get the old POV. She goes under the water? Under the water. Who does that in a bath?

With your eyes open, you definitely don't do that. Nobody does that. It's too hot. It's too hot. It's too hot. Nobody's doing that. But she has her eyes open underwater and you see Miles' head poke over the edge of the bathtub.

Although it could be Miles or it could be Quint. True. It's just the shape of a man. It's the shape of a man. A boy's head. A boy's head. With long brown hair. And Finn Wolfhard and Quint have similar haircuts. Hairstyles. True. It's just the shape of a man. A boy's head. With long brown hair. And Finn Wolfhard and Quint have similar haircuts. Hairstyles. Yeah.

So it could be either. Because yes, she wakes up and I mean not wakes up. She pops up and nobody's there. So she goes to bed and has a spooky dream of her and Miles getting in an argument and he slams her head

against a window or a mirror and she wakes up really scared and she decides she's going to sleep with the light on. But then she wakes up to Miles who's sitting next to her in bed. Oh no. Stroking her arm.

No. And then she's like what are you doing in here? And he's like, he's basically like I'm horny. He says, he's like, you leave the light on. I didn't know you were scared of the dark. Oh, no. Thank you. No, thank you. That's not good.

And that's not good. Then he says she has a spider on her. Yeah, she's like, why are you touching me? And he's like, she has a spider on her yeah she's like why are you touching me and he's like you had a spider on you and like opens his hand and there's a spider in it and he smushes it with his hand in his in his bare fist and then in this very deeply uncomfortable personal intimate space he finally apologizes for being rude and he says to make up for it he'll teach her how to ride horses which doesn't sound like making up for it to me personally um so she's like okay agrees yeah and what else am i gonna do okay and then it like cuts to the next morning and him like really whipping the horse that she's on and it's like running around in circles like on a on a lead

or whatever and he's whipping it whipping it and she's like you don't have to like hit it so hard and he's like yes you do that's how you establish control that's what quint told me right so then everyone's kind of in a bad oh no this is when they go to the koi pond okay yeah so they go to they they go to the koi pond and when they get there there is a koi that has uh escaped from the pond and is lying next to it oh no and there's a bird that's eating it oh no and then miles they look at it and they're horrified. And then Miles smashes the fish's head, stomps on it with his foot. Oh, no. And Kate is like, Miles, what are you doing? And he looks at her and he says, nothing should have to suffer.

And then she's like, and then there's silence. And he goes, well, that's the koi pond. That's a line? Yeah. Okay. He got all the good lines that line really made me laugh that was a line that spielberg was like i'm out i'm out i can't do this movie well that's the koi pond well that's the koi pond and then they move on and that is the koi pond doesn't doesn't come back doesn't come back. And being like nothing should have to suffer. Doesn't really go with his character or anything.

Doesn't make sense with who he is. Great. Very strange. I love it. So, OK, that night back to bed. Oh, she's like getting into bed. And then she like, here's something coming from the pool and looks out her window. Oh, she's talking to her old roommate and she's like, yeah, it's kind of things aren't

really going well. And then she's like, oh, fuck. She like sees a body in the pool and she's like, oh, my God, runs outside. She thinks it's Flora in the pool. It has like brown hair floating. She jumps into the pool and it and is like swimming down for a long time and then and then it's like a spooky ghost in the pool and it turns and like faces her and like reaches for her and then she jumps out of the pool and she's very scared and flora and miles pop out of the shadows

and they're like ha ha we got you and you turn back to the pool and it's the creepy mannequin grandmother from earlier that they've thrown into the pool but it was a ghost but it definitely was a ghost and they're just such assholes and she's so angry she's really mad she's so so mad she yells at them to get inside them a lot yeah to get inside and then yells at them a lot. Yeah, to get inside. And then what happens? I think it's another going to bed. And I think she has another nightmare.

And it's the one where they're like having a horse race nightmare. Remember, she like goes to bed and it doesn't like show that she goes to bed. I think it just cuts to a horse chase. And she's chasing Miles around the property. And they do run into the maze in the dream. And she's on another side of a hedge from him. So she can only see him every other second. And his face starts turning from Miles to Quint.

Miles to Quint. And then she... Then Flora appears in front of her. And's like about to hit Flora with the horse, a horse accident. And then she panics and wakes up. And the next morning, I think the first thing Miles says to her is bad dreams, bad dreams. Oh, she's like, you little motherfucker. Yeah. Spooky. Is this one that they go into town

Yes so Kate suggests That it's the weekend And they should maybe go into town Get some ice cream and Flora Oh a new koi Freaks out a new fish To replace the koi pond fish And Flora is like I don't know

I don't know and Miss Gross also is like Flora doesn't leave there's no leaving And Flora's like, I don't know. I don't know. And Miss Gross also is like, Flora doesn't leave. There's no leaving. And Flora's obviously got some PTSD from seeing her mother die in a crash. The thing that was weird about it was that you thought, at least I thought the whole time, that it was going to be something more supernatural than that. Like, she literally couldn't leave the property for some reason because Mrs. Gross was so strange about it.

Right. And they both would, like, look at each other as though they were, like, hiding a big old secret. But I think it's gross was so strange about it right and they both would like look at each other as though they were like hiding a big old secret but i think i think it was just straight straight ptsd yeah that didn't come back so okay um but so miles is like well i want to go um what if i ask my friend if he'll watch over us to flora and flora's like okay and so he turns and looks into a mirror and is like hey will you watch over me and Flora if we go into town and then like turns to her

and he's like he said yes he said he will and Flora's like and Kate and Kate and he's like will you watch over Kate too and then he's like he said yes like great we can go and Flora like feels really reassured and like runs out and she's like going to get ready and so it's just Miles and Kate in the room and then Miles yes, great, we can go. And Flora feels really reassured and runs out. She's going to get ready.

And so it's just Miles and Kate in the room. And then Miles turns to Kate, my favorite line in the movie, and says, he also says your tattoo is really sexy. Oh my God. It was maybe better than, well, that's the koi pond.

Equal, equal lines. Finn Wolfhard had all the best lines he definitely had all the best lines for sure oh my god okay so this is when I got up to pee so you're gonna have to um take the reins yes so they um get in the car and they're heading out

towards the gate and as they are getting closer Flora is getting more and more stressed and she's in the backseat and she's like I don't like this I don't like this stop the car stop the car and Kate is like because she's like it's fine like everything's gonna be fine you don't have to

worry so she keeps driving the horny ghost is watching us and then Flora like really loses it and is like i don't want to and she starts like trying to unbuckle her seatbelt and like jump out of the car and miles turns to kate and says stop the car i'll fucking kill you oh oh and she's like shocked and stops the car and then um miles gets out to go around to help flora and kate starts to open her door to try to get out and miles like slams it closed back on her and grabs flora and

then turns back to her and says keeping the lights on at night won't keep you safe whoa that is fucked up that is a fucked up thing to say to someone else. That's crazy. So, you know, right off the bat, you're like, ooh, okay. Keeping the lights on won't keep me safe. Might as well play a good old healthy round of flashlight tag. Might as well. Oh, right. Because it's still Saturday and they're like, well, we've still got to do the rest of our day.

And they're like, well, let's play flashlight tag. It's daytime, mind you. But they just close the curtains and then it becomes like pitch black in the whole mansion. They go to the basement. Okay. They go to the basement. Okay. So they play flashlight tag.

It's what's their way of counting? Oh, my God. It's naming those states and capitals. In alphabetical order. In alphabetical order. And she does two of them and then starts. And I was like, that's cheating. We need to hear more but

also yeah what an insane way to count i couldn't i don't know them very impressive so stupid um so she's counting miles and flora are hiding she goes it's obviously flashlight tag very creepy um she discovers flora pretty quickly and then asks Flora to join her. She's like, come with me. And then Flora's like, I can't. That's like against the rules for some stupid reason. She's like, that's not part of the game. So then she skips off without a care

in the world. Also, she hears like a noise. Something we forgot to mention, which, you know, it's not even worth talking about, but I will just say it. Right before this happened, right after Finn Wolfhard told her that she should stop the car, he'll fucking kill her. She goes to a phone booth and calls her roommate and is explaining the situation. Her roommate's like, you got to come home. And she's like, no, I made a promise to Flora that I would stay.

So I'm just going to say she would say goodbye. You can leave. Just say goodbye agreed for sure um so that's also part of it is she has a renewed commitment to stay in the house despite the fact that so many horrible things have been happening very cool um so they're playing flashlight tag she's found flora so now she's looking for miles plain flashlight tag she's found flora so now she's looking for miles and uh you know imagine any typical flashlight scene tag but she like also here is like a spooky noise coming from further down somehow and looks like down essentially like a spiral staircase and it's like groany noises and she's like do you think miles would go down there and flora's like groany noises. And she's like, do you think Miles would go down there? And Flora's like, I don't know. Go check it out. And it's like, no, don't go down there.

So she goes down there and she starts getting very scared. She, oh, at one point something takes the flashlight from her. So she doesn't have a flashlight. Yeah. Like it's snatched out of her hand. And she's like, this isn't funny. I want to stop. Yeah.

She thinks it's Miles. I don't want to play anymore. This isn't funny. And then someone, something gets thrown at her. She like falls into a place where there's like Polaroids of a naked woman. Oh, okay. And she's just like very creeped out. Right. There's a ton of that right i forgot about that there are a ton of polaroids of a naked woman yeah that's very scary um and i think she

like run runs back upstairs i think she finds the polaroids and just leaves and um flora and miles and mrs gross are all sitting peacefully by the crackling fire. Like what took you so long? Somehow night time all of a sudden even though it had just been the morning. Right and she's like Miles like can't believe you like knocked a flashlight out of my hand and he's like I've been up here for like 15 minutes. And Mrs. Gross is like he's been here the whole time. It's been an honor

sitting here with him. I's been in my presence for 15 minutes. So we think it's like Quint's ghost or something maybe. Yes. And she found Quint's lair with all his Polaroids. And Quint's horny and loves hot girls.

Exactly. So then is this when she I think she goes back to the diary and she's like let me read what I didn't finish before. And that's when things get saved some time, let me read what I didn't finish before. And that's when things would have saved some time. Very disturbing. Which I had done that before.

And it's pretty soon after the entry she read previously. It says how she just flipped one more page. She had just gone two or three more pages. She would have seen how Mrs. Jessel was writing that quinn is like completely obsessed with her won't leave her alone and he's alive at this point alive yes he died after she left um and um and then she says that he put a polaroid of her in the book, I guess, or in her room. She says he took a picture of me and I have no idea how he got it. And it's like a photo of her sleeping that he like left for her in her room. And on the Polaroid it's written, you're even sexy when you're sleeping.

Oh, yuck. I forgot about that. And it's very, it's very creepy. It's like not a cute sleeping photo. It's like a very vulnerable, like, yeah, very scary sleeping photo. Yeah. It's not good. So obviously, Quint is a real motherfucker.

And so she's in quite. She goes to Mrs. Gross to inquire more about Quint. And she's like, tell me the deal with Quint. Is he their sibling or just a friend? He was like the groundskeeper. I don't know if we explain that properly. Quint was the groundskeeper. How old was he?

Yeah, I like like 30s Oh okay this is interesting He's an adult man okay so Quint Was an adult man yeah he's like A man who should not be getting drunk with a 14 Year old boy no and being like creepy And sneaking into rooms and okay Okay that is I was picturing

Him as the same age maybe a little Bit older than no sorry Miles but he's a man he is an old man Yes he's an adult man Okay, okay. I was picturing him as the same age, maybe a little bit older. No, sorry. Miles, but he's a man. He is an old man. Yes, he's an adult man. Old, ancient. He's ancient. So she goes to ask Mrs. Gross more about Quint.

And she tells her that he fell off his, he got like too drunk and fell off his horse like a few weeks after after Mrs. Jessel left. He got wasted and got on a horse? Yes. Oh that's funny. So he died in that way. He just fell off a horse? She's like he fell.

That was the only thing she said I think. Oh that's crazy. He fell. So then we're getting into the crazy stuff. This is the last little bit, I gotta say. It's the last, it's there. Question, were you scared at all in any of this stuff? No. I got a little, I mean, there were jump scares that scared me. But the mood wasn't scary?

I wasn't scared at all except for the spider part. Wow, fascinating. I mean, I had jump scares where I was like, oh, but it didn't really scare me. It makes me want to watch because I feel like I would be scared because I'm always scared. And I'm like very curious if that's true. You might be scared. You might be. You might be. So the next day, Mrs. Gross is bringing Kate her mail. And she says, you've got something from your mother.

And the mail is opened. Oh, no. And she's like, did you open my mail and she's like it came like that it's so funny it's such a lie what they sent the mail opened it came like that and she pulls it out and it's like some some charcoal drawings of just like black scribbles basically. It's very very dense black scribbles. Okay. And different kind of dense patterns.

And Mrs. Gross says I hope whatever your mother has isn't genetic. Yeah. Rude. But I didn't read your mail. Yeah. Yeah. I think she says I think she says I hope it's not genetic which is even more of like a burn or she like somehow knows it yeah i don't know um and this

is when she like starts trying to take a bath again oh and this is when she starts trying to take a bath but it's like oh my god if shit is, I'm taking the fastest showers anyone has ever seen. Yeah. Just not showering if you don't need to. Oh, my God. Curtain open. Looking all around. So she goes into her room, takes her pants off, looks in the mirror, sees Miss Jessel in the mirror.

A spooky mirror part. And then footprints appear on her bathroom floor. No one's ever seen this in a haunted house movie before. No one ever has. And she's like, well, I guess I gotta follow them. So she follows those wet footprints. Keeps her pants off, right? Doesn't put her pants back on.

And then she goes out to the lake. Pantsless? Pantsless. And she something grabs her and pulls her into the lake and when she's down there she sees Miss Jessel's open eyes again in a lake

like her like cadaver like it's not a ghost this time it's just a dead body that's like slowly rotting away Miss Jessel was trying to get her her murder solved yeah she was trying to get her murder solved. Yeah, she was trying to get her murder solved.

Never seen it before. A movie full of new ideas. Freaks out, very scared, gets out of the lake, sopping wet, runs back to the house, back into the East Wing, where you're not supposed to go. Back to the room that miles initially found her in um that one of those first nights that she was home when i said that was her first yeah and um this is like this was a pretty disturbing part there's a bed in that room which then starts shaking and you hear basically the sound of like someone being raped. But you don't see anything. That's what all the like weird moaning sounds have been. I think so.

Oh no. And I think it's Quint like. Raping Mrs. Mr. Essel. Oh no. You see like their ghost heads. Yeah. You see them like kind of come into form a little bit.

And you see him strangling her. Oh God. And then she dies mid rape. And this is a pg-13 movie and henley and i had a good talk about this afterwards of like why is rape pg-13 it's so crazy that killing someone while raping them is a pg-13 level thing that's chill that's fine but don't say fuck no fucks no one fuck we'll give you one fuck but don't But not two. Wait. But a rape and murder is chill. I thought she died in the driving the car. Well, I think I think we're meant to believe that.

The mom and the parents. That's how they died. Because it just cut. All we saw was that a man appeared. Oh, her try. And we were meant to believe it was a ghost, but it maybe was actually him. And then he raped her and killed her. He did not die till after after she left. Oh, my fucking God. So I then he raped her and killed her. Yes, because he did not die until after she left.

Oh my fucking god. So I think he stopped her at the gate and then, yeah, must have like dragged her back. Jesus fucking Christ. That's a PG-13 movie? So that part of the movie is very scary and very disturbing for sure. But it's also very fast and you don't really see anything. You just kind of like hear something. I feel like you only see the top halves of their body.

I guess that doesn't make it better yeah i don't know it's it's done in a kind of like way where they're like let's make it more pg-13 let's how can we make this rape more pg-13 we definitely want the rape can't take that out but how do we make it p BT-13? So then she turns around after experiencing this. Kate knows what's happened. She puts it all together. She goes back out of the room and she confronts Mrs. Gross and is like

you knew about this. You knew what was happening. And then Mrs. Gross is like I made it so that he died. Like, I made sure he wasn't going to be a problem anymore. Oh, fuck, Mrs. Gross. So implying that she somehow put him on a horse.

Just drunk. Drugged him and put him on a horse. But then the ghost of Quint comes out of the bedroom quick as lightning as fast as my cat's poop and pushes mrs gross off the landing and she falls and clearly dies. Oh my god. Yeah. Killed by a ghost. Killed by a ghost. Killed by you hate to see it. You hate to see it. Do you mind shocked when ghosts have a physical presence?

How can ghosts push a person? They're that angry. If they're that angry. I guess so. So she's running Katie's running to get the kids to get them out of there. She's like we gotta go. We gotta get out of there. She's like, we got to go. We got to get out of here. Throws them in the car and starts like flooring it to the gate.

And it's like, sorry, like, I don't care if you're scared. We have to go. And then they open the gate and get out and are driving. And then it dissolves into the the shape of it is the shape of the charcoal drawings. And it cuts back to her looking at the charcoal drawings at the desk. And at some point. It just rewinds time. And so at some point the mom calls also.

And it's like, did you get my drawings? Did you get my drawings? Yeah. And so. so none of this has happened yet no but yes so then she like runs into the main room where the kids are and mrs gross is and is like freaking out and is like we got to go we got to get out of here i just like saw all these things that are going to happen essentially yeah and they're like looking at her like you're insane and then she like sees quint in a mirror

and it's like flora you saw him too i know you saw him i know you saw him and flora's freaked out and it's like i don't know what you're talking about like and so scared and she's clearly deranged and um miles is kind of making fun of her and flora clearly scared of her um clearly scared of her um and then i think it just cuts to her like running into the mental institution to like see her mom and her mom is like at in the same spot in the pool and not facing her and she like runs down and then her mom turns around to look at her and she just starts screaming. Yeah. Mackenzie Davis just starts screaming. And then credits.

That's the end of the movie. That's it. Wait, what? That's it. Isn't it so crazy? What the fuck? So I feel like the implication is that she saw her own face right that has to be what they meant to be saying and that it's like is she did any of this happen is she in a mental

institution the whole time what it's like supposed to be ambiguous but it's just done in like the dumbest way it could have been you can see how it could have been so good in a way. Like not the movie because the movie was pretty bad. But I mean, like the idea of the idea of it was there. If they had just played into that more in a more effective way in terms of having it be like a fake out ending, because it really did feel like that was the ending. And then to have that be a new ending. It's just they didn't they didn't go deep enough into that for it to be make any sense right it just stopped

so abruptly it was very bizarre and I feel like for 80% of the movie it just felt like you know kind of a standard horror film that you've seen a hundred times before and then it just ended with being like the craziest

ending I've ever seen. Oh my god. I really think they made the movie and they were like fuck this is like every other movie that's ever existed. I was gonna say they were just like let's add something weird. Let's just make it the worst ending. I oh my god. I feel shocked and I only heard

about it. It was so bad. That like really caught me off guard. I think in the theater people like gasped and were like, what? I looked on Twitter very briefly to see what people's reactions. There were a lot of memes of like, you know, the guy who like turns around and is like, and then there are all those question marks around his head. It's one of my favorite memes. Wow.

It was like everyone was like. That should be the photo we post. See, now I'm very curious i like want to read interviews with the cast to be like what did you think you were making like what did you think about well i think the book does have kind of a similar ending but probably just done in a better way wow weird weird weird the way the book ends um it's something like flora or um kate thinks that the children are possessed by miss jessel and quint and then she thinks that quint has like possessed miles and then she's like holding miles in the end and like basically does something where she releases

quint from his body and then miles dies in her arms oh that's a different ending that's pretty different and i think the implication is that's also part of it being like was it real or was it not real like did the ghost like kill miles or did she like kill miles by accident when she was trying to save him that's more more interesting. That's way more interesting. That's fascinating. Wow. Henry James knew what was up in 1898. 1898. Doing a better job than we're doing in 2020 over here.

I really do feel like there are a lot of good horror movies coming out this year. There are. I think they dump the shitty ones in January and February. January is a bad time for movies. We've learned. It is. They're like, here's our trash. Had to get it passed just past Oscar season and early enough in the year

that everyone will forget it happened. Nobody spent money on it, so it has to come out. Yeah, this did very poorly. I think it was a $14 million budget and it made seven opening weekend. That's still not Cats. No, I mean, Jesus Christ. Cats, who approved that budget? So crazy. budget and it made seven opening weekend that's still not cats no i mean jesus christ cats who approved that budget so crazy um who the fuck has the money to even agree to that that was a 90

million dollar movie it's so funny so bad my god um yeah i don't know what else to say about this no there's nothing there's no there's nothing. There's no interesting... No takeaways. No. Nothing. No, except that I can see what they were trying to do. I really think that they made a movie that they were disappointed in and they're like, we'll just mix it up in the edit. And release it in January.

It failed miserably. I thought the performances were good. I thought everyone was pretty good in it. All of it was perfectly fine. And I think the cinemat, like, the cinematography was nice. It had, like, the horror, the nice, like, cold, like, the vibe that you've come to expect from

horror films. It certainly had all the, it seemed like it was going to be a good horror film. And it just wasn't, you know? It wasn't. Sometimes that happens. But hey. But we have a lot of good ones coming out this year. And listeners, if you like the podcast and thank you. Tell us what you want.

I think we should start doing more polls. I like it. Well, we have like I mean, the new conjuring comes out this year. That's very exciting. But what like, yeah, I mean, I'm very much not A horror fan other than This podcast and I would love to know what people Are excited about Good or bad also let us know like do you

Like to hear about a bad movie Is that like a thing that you guys should Skip these here's the thing is like we didn't Know until we had kind of already planned Yeah this was Thank you for voting on this movie I'm sorry It was bad we're excited all the new you for voting on this movie. I'm sorry it was bad. We're excited about all the new movies

coming out this year. We're ready to do them. I was excited to have Henley go see a movie with me. Henley saw it and she wasn't scared and that's really impressive. That's something. I mean, we're...

I want to see a scarier one. I do too. I think this is the year that we're all going to see for it. We're facing our fears. Okay, and you know. We did this one, and I'm proud of you both for watching. I'm proud of you, Henley.

Proud of you, Henley. Thank you. And for all of us here. For all of us here at Too Scary to Watch, we love you so much. We really do. That was the koi pond. And hey, hey, you know what? That was the koi pond.

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