Too Scary; Didn't Watch - TRAIN TO BUSAN with Joel Jensen

Episode Date: May 20, 2020

A hot dad, an adorable daughter, and an ever-growing hoard of zombies - we're recapping the South Korean zombie film Train to Busan! Our #1 horrorspondent Joel Jensen joins us via Zoom to talk about the winner of our foreign horror bracket. Listen to find out an exclusive entomological dermatology hack.Also, *trigger warning* for anyone who has had a zombie fall on them while they were doing kickflips :( Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I like watching scary movies. Hell yeah, she does. Ta-da! That's us. What's up? Oh, what is up? What's up, guys? I feel like we literally just did this. Time is melting together. It really is, isn't it? Today I was like, oh, it's July, and it's not.

But in my brain, I thought, I was just like, decided it was July already. And it didn't feel weird to have made that decision. But it's not, it's May. Just six weeks off. I actually had kind of an eventful week, but I mean, as far as quarantine weeks go. But all I want to talk about is Robert Pattinson. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

Sadie, did you make it? Well, first, I'll say that he gave an insane GQ interview where he made a dish called piccolini cuscino made that he has it's an idea for a restaurant of his he didn't just make it for himself he has invented this right and he pitched it to the head chef of sugarfish

or something owner of sugarfish what they want the idea is pasta that you can hold in your hands I think i'm realizing that i didn't actually read the i think i only read quotes from the article i didn't actually read the full article he's invented why can't pasta be as convenient as pizza we need to make pasta that is fast and you can hold in Listeners, I really beg you to read the entire article. It's

so funny and so crazy and I truly haven't stopped thinking about it since I read it and I don't know that I'll ever stop thinking about it. I think I might be thinking about it for years to come. But I did make

the Ecoline Ewe! No, Sammy, get that out of here. No, she actually is showing it to us. You guys, if you haven't if you haven't read the article, Robert Pattinson is basically the most incompetent person in the kitchen that I've ever heard of in my entire life. And this dish is absolutely revolting. Let me tell you. Let me tell you how it's done. I will admit I was a little confused by the recipe because it's so insane.

Also, it means, just so you know, piccolini cuscino, is that what it is? Yeah, pillow cushion. It means little pillow because he wants it to be like a little pillow you can hold your pasta. Well, mine did not turn out that way okay tell us about it sammy okay so you got you got your layer of breadcrumbs he used mashed up corn flakes but he said that if he had breadcrumbs he would have used those so i figured why not go for the best case version of this recipe right sure um and then you want a layer of sugar he says the sugar crust is incredibly important

three slices of cheese american cheese american cheese not just any cheese american cheese i bought craft singles and that was the one thing where i think i went grosser than his recipe um but in my head that's what it was because the whole thing is disgusting. No, didn't he? Isn't that what he used? I think you're right. He said any cheese will work. Yeah. And then more sugar. And then you microwave penne pasta for eight minutes.

And dump that in there in this tin foil. And then pour over tomato sauce of any kind. Anything tomato, tomato soup, tomato sauce, doesn't matter, he says. And then you want to sprinkle a little more sugar, and then you put your hamburger bun on the bottom, and he seemed to have burned in some initials into the hamburger bun, which I don't... Yeah, the P and the C for Piccolino. Piccolini Cucino. Oh my god, it's the craziest thing. And then he tossed his in the microwave

in a tinfoil wrapper, which immediately broke the microwave and made the power go out in his apartment. But I did it in an oven, which I think was the intention. But I'm going to try a bite of this right now with you guys here. Oh my god you haven't tried it yet. No. I haven't tried it yet. This is like being on fear factor. I do not like this. I want to say that I ate dinner prior to this because I knew that this would not be edible.

Ew Sammy. Is it good at all? It's so sticky. Is it good at all? It's so sticky. Ew, Sammy, no. I hate that you tried it. I hate that you made it and tried it. This is honestly not as terrible as I was expecting, but it's not good. Oh, gross.

Lord. Wow. Anyways, what's up with you guys? I have one, but it's not very good. I love it. Let's fucking hear it. I started reading Watchmen. I've never read it before.

And I actually haven't really read that many graphic novels at all in my life. But I'm really enjoying it. I think I like it. Yeah, it's really good. I think I like it, especially because it feels like a good mix between reading, like, a comic book and reading a novel, which

I guess is a graphic novel, but, like, I feel like all I feel like all quote-unquote graphic novels I've read in the past I've just just sped through and like haven't been able to actually like enjoy because it just it feels like it goes too quickly. And this I feel like I'm able to like sit with more and takes more time to digest, which makes it more enjoyable. And yeah, I can't believe I've never read it. And I love it so far. It's very good. I think that's I can't believe I've never read it. And I love it so far.

It's very good. I think that's the only graphic novel I've ever read. It was a gift from Silent Jenna. What a good gift. I've never read it. Maybe I'll read it. I don't have anything interesting to say about it. So that's why I hesitated to.

Well, you did just invent the idea of a graphic novel. Have you guys heard of that concept before? It's like a mix between a comic book and a novel. Add it to the list of things we've invented. We're going to be so rich. We're going to be so rich. Oh my god. Oh, okay. So I've been going a lot of long

walks because quarantine and I got, it was really hot like last week and I got really nervous about my long walks and how hot it was going to be for my walks because that's like what I'm worried about. And I was like, oh, I don't have any good shoes to walk in when it gets hot. So I ordered some Tevas walking sandals. Hell yeah, you did. And the first time I brought them out into the world, I was on a walk and we're all quarantined wearing masks. A woman

in her 60s had to stop me and ask where I got my sandals because she loved them and they looked so good for walking. What a great purchase. It was a great purchase and I feel really good about it and my feet are nice and cool on my walks.

I've gone through many, many pairs of Tevas. I'm on to Chacos now. I've leveled up. Chacos are more intense. I've leveled up to Chacos. Yeah, it is a level up. It's a for sure level up. Should I tell you guys what movie we're doing today? You should. Yes. Alright.

This week's movie is the winner of the Foreign Horror Bracket and it is Train to Busan. Came out in 2016. Directed by Yeon Sang-ho. Written by Yeon Sang-ho and Park Joo-suk. Starring Gong Yoo, Jung Yoo-mi, Ma Dong-suk,, Choi Woo Shik, and So Hee.

And we have a freaking guest here. We have a guest. Oh my God. We have a guest. Honestly, that's the most exciting thing that's happened this week. It's crazy. I'm pumped. It's so exciting to have a guest.

He's been on before. He's back again. been on before he's back again right here in quarantine and in july of 2020 we have joel jensen hey hi joel how's it going happy quarantine happy quarantine to you um well joel what what is up with you anything um well I've been quarantining. Yes, that's good. The scary thing that happened to me this week is I was the victim of credit card fraud. Oh, my God. No, not now.

Now's a bad time. Yeah, it was okay. It was more annoying than anything. And somebody hacked into my account and used all of my accrued credit card points to buy gift cards. Motherfucker. Do you get those points back? To Sephora. Oh my

God. Yeah, I worked with my bank and we're all set. It's fine. Just a nightmare though. But it was mostly just annoying. Yeah. And then the other scariest thing that happens to me this week is right before I got together with you guys for this podcast, I watched a gif of a guy getting a grasshopper to eat a wart off of his finger. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. I'm going to need to know how you stumbled upon that gif. Where did that I can't imagine ever landing on that gif in any choice i would ever make so i

need to understand i mean if you're me it it just happens you're a big bug guy right i i like bugs well it loves moles it was on reddit it was on reddit i subscribed to the wtf um subreddit which i rarely watch anything on it because usually it's too much for me. But I clicked on this one and it is a guy holding a grasshopper by its thorax as the grasshopper's little mandibles

munch away a wart on his finger and it looks like it totally works. Wow. Life hack. Wow, I have... Life i have life hack dermatology hack diy dermatology at home during quarantine i don't self-care i don't even know where to begin with comprehending that how that would have come about it's just a little entomological dermatology that's all it is folks whoa you heard it here first

that's pretty gross i wouldn't necessarily recommend watching it because you won't stop thinking about it that's why i would avoid the wtf subreddit completely yeah just all the time usually it's too much yeah it seems like a danger zone yeah but i think that's why i've subscribed to it yeah i mean i imagine that's why everyone subscribes well isn't it already is it already too late once you've seen it like you don't you how do you know it's gonna be too much do you know what i mean like that's the risk that you're always taking eventually i feel like i've started to develop an instinct because i've been on reddit for a long time i kind of know based off like a thumbnail and a description and how high it is on the front page how bad it's gonna be

okay got it you can kind of triangulate this one was like very high up you could see a thumbnail you could see the grasshopper and the the title of it was a grasshopper eats my wart it's pretty much you know you know what you're getting at that point i I thought, how bad could that be? I really like that it's Grasshopper Eats My Wart. It's not just Grasshopper Eats My Wart. It's mine. Oh my god. Oh my god, that's disgusting. Wow. What a week we've had.

All of us. What a week. Hi everybody, it is cocktail hour and this week's cocktail is a zombie. This drink has a lot of ingredients, so probably not an ideal quarantine drink. It's also one that you'll black out on real quick. So again, probably not great for being by yourself in your house. But you know, it's just too appropriate for the film, so we're doing it anyways. And I actually have all these ingredients, which is a little shocking. I think that I buy too much alcohol, is what that means. To make this drink, you will need

one ounce of light rum, one ounce of dark rum, one ounce of orange curacao liqueur, a half an ounce of lemon juice, a half an ounce of lime juice, one and a half ounces of orange juice, one and a half ounces of passion fruit puree or syrup, a quarter ounce of grenadine, two dashes of Angostura bitters, and an optional half ounce of 151 proof dark rum. You will combine all those ingredients, those many many ingredients with ice in a shaker and shake and then strain into a large glass of ice and you can add the 151

rum float on top and garnish with a mint sprig and some fresh fruit. Save this drink for when you're really looking to party. I used to drink this a lot in college so that should tell you what really looking to party I used to drink this a lot in college So that should tell you what you need to know Cheers

The reason we brought Joel on this week Other than it's great to have a guest And great to have Joel Is that before this won our horror bracket This is a movie that Joel had been saying We should do for the podcast So when it won, we brought him in So I'm very excited to hear about this movie

It's been long anticipated. Yes. Yeah, it's a great movie. I think it's one of the best zombie movies to come out in like, I don't know, the past 10 years or so. Some trivia is that this was the first ever South Korean zombie film, except this director did do an animated prequel to this movie before this very interesting a short i think not a full length and this is his first live action film

and there's a sequel that's supposed to be coming out this year yeah peninsula we should watch the trailer to the sequel after we talk about the movie because the sequel looks crazy. Completely unrelated and totally crazy. Is it the same filmmakers? Yes. And then also James Wan is doing an American remake which

I didn't know. That's kind of crazy. I don't love American remakes in general but But I love James Wan. I do like James Wan. So I'm not writing it off just yet. Had you seen it before, Sammy, or no? Yes.

Jenna and I watched this a few years ago. And it's very good. We loved it. And I cried that time and I cried this time. Yeah, I cried too. I cried a lot this time. Because last time I watched it with Jenna and I feel like just whenever you're with another person, you naturally cry less. Because you don't want to look like a big baby.

You don't want to look like a pussy. I was trying to look fucking cool in front of Jenna. And this time I was just free to just really sob and boy did i yeah it gets you because you're like it wears you down and then just hits you with emotion that you don't even remember is has been planted yeah like they plant the seeds for it early and then you forget about it because there's zombies everywhere and then they nail you with it uh once more it is is good. I'm ready for this emotional rollercoaster of a zombie film. Yes, we watched the trailer. Let's watch that trailer.

Just including a side note here that I am using the dubbed version of the trailer. Don't watch the dubbed version of the movie. Dubs are bad. I hate them. The train bound for Busan Station is departing shortly. Excuse me.

That woman does not seem right to me. Requesting medical assistance in car number 11. What the... Get back! Get back! I'm telling you! Shut the door! This train simply can't go any further. Holy shit.

Right? Oh my god. That looked great. it looks fucking awesome it's i like wild tempted to say never mind i want to i want to watch the movie let's not do this episode i mean but i'll watch it after from the trailer it looked like a mix between world war z Piercer. And like a Wes Anderson movie. A Wes Anderson movie. I'm interested. There's something. Why a Wes Anderson movie? I'm interested in a Wes Anderson part.

There's something about the color palette. That reminds me of Wes Anderson. It's like bright. But also the yellow and blues. Felt. I don't know. It is like bright primary colors at times. I can see

that actually. And like a lot of symmetry. You know what I mean? I don't know. It was cool. I'm intrigued. I do think like one of the things to this like genius about it is like it is ambitious and it is on a big scale but a ton of it takes place on train cars. Right. So it's like

probably like a pretty like small footprint for a production and in for a great deal of it and they make a they make a lot of hay out of the confined spaces and it's in it so it's like really really smart the way that they've done it yeah um should we get into it should we start? Joel, you want to take it away? Yeah. So we have a really, truly great prologue scene where, so like the first shot is on a mannequin's, like mannequin's face. And you like pull out and it's like a mannequin who's like a safety man who's like holding a little traffic wand, which instantly makes me feel like korean traffic control totally rules because instead of just signs they have friendly looking mannequins with like things are pointing you the

direction to go and we see like there's like um a checkpoint's been set up on the road and um trucks are driving past and like getting their ids their drivers are having their ids checked and then they drive past and they're getting and you their drivers are having their ids checked and then they drive past and they're getting and you see they're getting sprayed by men in hazmat suits um and so you're obviously like something is up there's like some sort of like chemical spill or something and then we cut into uh one of the men who's driving a truck he's a farmer and he says he talks to the guy in the hazmat suits it's like hey like what the fuck's going on what's this about and they're like oh don't worry about it's no big deal like

don't don't sweat and he's like it's not another it's not something that's gonna like mean i have to bury my livestock again is it and they're like no no he's like it's not another foot and mouth is it obviously something has happened before in this area and like no no no nothing nothing of the sort don't worry about it don't worry about it and he's like I'm being triggered by this right now yeah just FYI at least coronavirus isn't whatever is about to happen in train to Busan

yeah count our blessings yeah this is worse I would say I would argue this is worse than coronavirus it looked worse um so the farmer drives on and he like gets a phone call and his phone's like down in in the the floor basin or whatever like where his feet are and he's like reaching out he like takes his eyes off the road and he hits something and uh he stops gets out of his truck turns around

and sees he's hit a deer and he's like damn it. And gets back into his truck and drives away. The truck leaves frame and the camera slowly pans across the asphalt, across the pooling blood from the deer and onto the deer. And after a couple of beats, the deer sort of gives a death twitch. And then it gives another death twitch and another death twitch that's a little bit more controlled and then all of a sudden the deer stands up

and the camera cuts into a close up of the deer's face and its eyes are all clouded over and it's like bleeding and looks evil and then deer runs away and then train to Busan Whoa, I love it Cool! This is a great, one of the great on-screen deers i have to say

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we saw him in the trailer he is hot we saw the kid first and i said out loud really cute kid and i thought oh my god really hot dad yep you then we saw the dad and I thought, oh my god. Really hot dad. Yep, you're absolutely right. We don't even need to do a poll. It's not controversial at all. No, it's not controversial at all. We should do a poll that's who's hotter, dad or daughter. Joel, one more time.

What was that? Scratch it. Scratch that. We're going to want to cut that. We're going to get cited by the FBI. Like, we've got to start following this account. Too scary. Didn't watch. Flagged.

But let's just return to the dad is so hot. He's in this gorgeous suit that he looks so good in this fucking suit. It's like so well tailored and it's like very fine. And he's like a classic finance guy okay he works in like a financial firm we meet him as he's um trying to strike um a big deal and one of his analysts comes in his name is kim who we interact with a few times throughout the course of the of the Kim comes in and is like, like, asking him, do you want to go through with this deal? And he goes, no, in fact, kill it.

And instead, go big on this thing. And the dude's like, wait, what do you mean? That's like, that's not what everybody's doing. And dad goes, what are you, one of the lemmings? Do it. We're going to do it because nobody else is doing it. So we get a sense of who this man is he's a contrarian he's not thinking about consequences and he's very um contrarian he's like not going

with the herd and when we're talking about a zombie movie which is basically a herd of flesh eating mindless things we see the tension there we see the irony of this man he does not want to be a zombie he's going against the crowd he doesn't want to be a zombie so one of the things as he makes this big deal with his analyst kim is he goes by the way what are kids into these days and we cut to him in a parking garage and he's going through a divorce and he's talking to his ex-wife who is later revealed in the movie. I know Sammy knows what I'm going to hear. His contact for his ex-wife in his phone is just in all caps, ex-wife. It's probably something lost in translation, but it is so funny that he's calling and he

pulls up the contact for ex-wife. She shall remain nameless. I mean, that just makes good sense. You gotta be sure. You can't mix it up. You gotta be specific. That can't be anybody else but her. So he's talking to his ex-wife in the parking garage next to his very nice Audi.

And they're having an argument, basically. Their daughter, Sue Ann, wants to go to her mom's house for her birthday, which is tomorrow. And her mom lives in a town that's like an hour train ride away. And among other things in this conversation with his ex-wife, she basically says he's a bad dad. And she doesn't even expect him to know that their daughter's birthday is tomorrow and he's like are you fucking kidding me of course I know it's her birthday and he goes into his car and he pulls a birthday present out that he's got

her so he knew it was her birthday okay and like in this argument like it's established that like his daughter wants to take the train alone she doesn't really want or feel like he would want to join her on the train trip whatever so now he goes home and his mom he lives with his mother and his daughter and um he

like comes in and immediately like goes to like he's like clearly a workaholic he wants to like get back to work and stuff but he goes and has a moment with his daughter um and who also expected that he had forgotten her birthday oh and he's like no of course i didn't forget your birthday um in fact here here's a here's your present i'll give it to you now and she opens it and it's a wii a nintendo wii and he's expecting her to be like great but this is such good writing she she goes like oh this is fine and then she points and points out that he had bought her a Wii for the last holiday this

year. Oh no. He just didn't remember what he got her last time. Oh. Bad dad. He's distracted by commerce. Well it seems like maybe his assistant bought the Wii too. Bad assistant. He asked what are kids into and yeah we should put

this on the assistant for sure i just mean that's how little he's even doing it right i'm putting it back on him and saying he just outsourced getting the gift also did we already say how old suann is she's like i don't know wait oh sam yeah i mean i know this is always hard to answer I'm gonna guess six and I feel more confident about that than usual I think that's a good guess that's what I was gonna guess wait a six year old wants to take the train by herself

yes that's the thing is it's like extra upsetting because it's like so clearly she should probably have an escort and she's like I don't want to inconvenience you dad it's like i don't want to inconvenience you dad oh that's like really sad yeah yeah he's just like he very clearly only cares about himself he's a very scroogey kind of guy like after that interaction he goes back and like starts to like go to work and he has a conversation with his mother who's like you know you should really

try to use this opportunity to reconnect with your ex-wife and he's like you know i don't know if i really want to do this i don't want to take her to the train station. She doesn't need to go. Like, this is an important time for my business. And his mom goes, this is an important time for Sue Ann, too. And it's like a very good reality check. And then she, his mother hands him a camcorder. And she, at that day at school, Sue Ann had done like a recital.

And her recital was she sang a song and it is the whole class starts laughing at her. And she quits. And she looks like straight into the camcorder with this heart breaking. Like she just looks so sad. It's so sad. There's nothing sadder in the world than kids being embarrassed. Like a cute kid being ashamed is so heartbreaking it's so heartbreaking we'll get a load of this so we cut to dad and suanne are in the car driving to

the train station because he's decided like he will in fact escort her to her mom's house and after some awkward silence he then criticizes her for having given up on the song. And he says, we need to finish what we start. Like, you can't give up. He says, like, not finishing is worse than not even starting. Something like that. Some shit like that. Where he's trying to, like, be a dad, but he's, like, doing it in, like, some toxic masculinity shit.

And not getting the point. And so you're like, this dude's a fucking asshole. And as they're having that conversation, all of a sudden he has to hit the brakes really hard because a bunch of fire trucks like scream past down at an intersection going somewhere else. Sue Ann looks out the window and sees a bunch of ash falling from the sky. He looks out his window and you can see reflected in the window glass, there is a tower, like a skyscraper is burning. It's on fire off in the distance. We don't know what's going on.

We just see these like bing, bing, bing, great teasing and building up. So then we get to the station and we're like loading up on the train. We're hearing the like your common train stuff. The train is going to leave. Train stuff, you know. We all know it. Your common train stuff. You know, the train's going to leave.

Ever since I did have my, for my birthday, my murder mystery train party, YouTube wants me to only listen to train content. So I'm familiar with the train. You're familiar with train stuff. Trains can leave. All aboard. Choo choo.

Choo choo. Choo choo. We hear. Where's the coal? and where's my shovel typical typical conductor speak oh god so as the as we get into the transition people start learning on train and we start to like meet some of the individuals who we're gonna get to know throughout the course of the movie including including this like very perfectionist, very corporate train attendant, a woman who works with him, who he like corrects her scarf is like not just exactly right. We meet a baseball team

of like teenage boy high school baseball team who are all like best buddies. And then the babe of the high school gets on the train. She's a cheerleader for their baseball team who are all like best buddies and then the babe of the high school gets on the train she's a cheerleader for the baseball team her name is jin he and she gets on the train there and then all of the baseball team peer pressures this one boy to sit next to her because she likes him and they want him to like like her and he's very doesn't want anything to do with it. He's like shy and is like, just leave me alone. By the way, he is the main guy in Parasite. You're right! I recognized him in the trailer.

I was excited to see that. He is excellent in this. And so he's like this kind of like bashful kid who's like getting a little bit razzed by his baseball team because the hot girl likes him and she's like pretty forward and is not um shy about flirting it up let's do a poll who's hotter her or the daughter

oh boy how many of you guys are doing polls lately flag the flag the second time so so we've met a few of these people were on the train it's you know a normal train um um um don't we meet the the old sisters the like oh the old sisters or are they old lovers is my other question oh no they say that they're sisters at some point okay well i didn't pay attention to that old sister some old ladies also red hot i assume they were lovers because of how smoking hot these 70 or 80 year old ladies were and then the and then the rich man do we meet him yet or not yet i don't remember but there is a rich man businessman who we probably meet at this point it would be my guess you're right cut to dad gets a call on his phone which is the biggest phone i've still to this day ever seen

it's huge it's like the size of an ipad it's just absolutely enormous so he gets a phone call from his uh analyst kim who's like hey there's been an attack i don't know what it is but like some sort of attack has happened just like be aware this like might fuck up our deal essentially and he's like okay okay okay don't worry about it and uh as he's like taking this call we uh see this woman runs onto the train she like like runs past um like a train attendant totally freaking out but nobody sees her and you don't know what it's about and then they go and then the train starts up and starts

moving and as it just starts moving Sue Ann looks out the window and sees a guy tackle somebody on the platform so like again we're just like trickling weird shit going on and her dad is like already asleep

yeah he's already he like sat down and just fell asleep immediately took a call heard there was an attack of some sort and fell asleep immediately yeah so then we cut into this woman who's jumped onto the train and we see she has the telltale bite mark

a big toothy bite. And her veins are like bulging and like all purple and dark and like running up her leg. And she's sweating. She keeps saying, she's sorry. She keeps going, I'm so sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And then like gagging and coughing and shit. She like locks herself in a bathroom. Yes. And we go in and there's like a, one of the other passengers like grabs the

attendant and it's like hey just so you know like a weird looking person got on the train um they went into the bathroom and so the attendant goes and knocks on the door and the daughter suan sees this sort of like something curious happening so she gets up and like goes to check it out then the attendant opens the door and we see somebody totally different is hiding in the bathroom. Not the girl we saw before. This kind of weird guy who clearly has PTSD who's going like, they're all dead. They're all dead. They're all fucking dead.

Oh, they're all dead. And that's this is when we meet the businessman. He comes in and like looks down on this this guy and he tells Sue Ann, like, if you flunk out of school, this is when we meet the businessman. He comes in and looks down on this guy. And he tells Sue Ann, if you flunk out of school, this is what you become. He's probably a drug addict and he's crazy. And this is what happens if you don't finish your school. So make sure you get good grades. And we go back to the woman who's been bit.

And she's freaking out. And she's walking down the aisle. It's all like she's like walking down the aisle like it's a really great shot of just like her legs and she's like limping down the aisle and she like falls over and starts twitching and then we meet our next big hero who i call scarf man oh i like that what did you call him i called him husband he's this he's this like beefy cool like very like barrel chested man he's in line for the bathroom he's clearly his like somebody he's with is in the bathroom he's waiting on them and suan walks past him and he's like oh do you need to use the bathroom you should go down this way um and so the daughter goes past and that's when the um a female attendant finds the bitten girl

laying on the ground in like the like vestibule between cars um and she like sees this this this young woman who's fallen down she doesn't look good so she like you know pulls up her walking calls for help and then our dad gets another phone call from kim and he's like look it's not a strike it's not like an attack it's something else but i don't know what it is and then we cut back into the vestibule and the and the girl who's been bit she's like goes dead and the attendant's like oh my god what the fuck and then she like turns she like turns her back on the girl to like radio for help. And then behind her,

you see the girl impossibly go like, and like sit back up, like, but from a backwards position. The way they do zombies in this is the best I've ever seen. Yeah, I was wondering about that. Like what is VFX? And what is just like,

did they hire contortionists? Yeah. Wait, what do you mean a backwards position? Like, legs? Like, I don't understand. From, like, a bridge position sort of up. Like, impossibly you couldn't do it. Like, her spine curved in, like, the wrong way.

Yeah. Oh, okay. And she's, like, crunching as she goes up. And I think that they definitely used, like, cont and like maybe like weird dancers who can do crazy avant-garde shit. Weird dancers. Well, because the zombie acting is really, really phenomenal in this movie. Like the body movements are so jarring and upsetting and but also look real like it doesn't look overly vfx-y to me this girl like curls up like a fucking snake and

attacks the attendant um and then we see the attendant walking down the aisle of another car with this woman on her back eating her fucking neck. It's the car with the whole baseball team. Yeah. And then from there, the attendant turns. She attacks people. That person turns, starts attacking people. And bada bing, we're off to the races. Yeah.

I'd say within minutes, it's probably 100 people. Like two cars, I think. Two cars full of people within a minute. Whoa! So they established that this transformation happens in like seconds. Yes. Yeah, it's fast. It's fast. But then later it kind of takes

a few minutes. I think it's about your willpower. Yeah, you just gotta be stronger than the virus. And as we've established, the main character does not want to be a zombie. And I bet that's going to come to be important. That's true. So now you've got like people. Now we start to like sink into our sort of conceit where we have people running up the train, like running up through the train cars, like screaming.

Other people who are in other train cars like, what the fuck is happening? Like, what is why are these people running up the train like running up through the train cars like screaming other people who are in other train cars like what the fuck is happening like what is why are these people running i kind of got the sense that they're running from like to the to the more like is first class like closer to the front of the train just to get the layout of the train so it's kind of moving from the back of the train to the front of the train so it's starting in like you know what's uh economy and and in the front is the like first class what a cool now that it's being described and you were saying like oh like a small set piece in a way of shooting on a train how fucking cool of an idea just have it like move further and further up a train is like such a brilliant concept. And I actually haven't seen Snowpiercer, but I know that that's a big part of Snowpiercer.

Yeah. I was going to say, Emily, if you really like the idea of people moving up a train bit by bit, you're going to love Snowpiercer. Also, if that all it takes. That's yeah. I bet you're going to love Snowpiercer. Is that all it takes? Yeah.

Also, if you like class parables that map themselves onto these sorts of things, you will like Snowpiercer. Snowpiercer's Bong Joon-ho, right? He loves a class parable. It's so good. It's weird and it's violent. They eat bugs. Do the bugs eat warts? I'll eat a bug, but I will not eat a bug that's eating a wart.

What's this bug's diet, Finn? Fatten these bugs up on my warts. No, I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. So now we have chaos starting to break out on this train and dad wakes up. Sue Ann is gone. And sees that Sue Ann is gone and he's like fuck I gotta find her I don't know what's going on

but like obviously I need to find my daughter he goes and finds her in a bathroom as he sees like more people running past screaming and freaking out he grabs his daughter and just as he grabs her he sees the zombies attacking in the like train the train car

right next to the bathroom that she's in and he's like oh fuck and grabs a hold of her and starts running as the zombies like basically like rush this train car there's already just like shit loads of them and we go back to husband um who's our fighting pro scarf man i think i like scarf man more than husband sorry sammy no no no okay scarf the scarf guy and uh and he sees it also happening he like gets his uh bangs on the bathroom door he'd been waiting on it and it's his wife and she's pregnant. And a zombie attacks him, and he just beats the shit out of a zombie and then locks it in the bathroom.

Dad and Sue Ann get through one of the vestibule doors connecting trains, and the dad slams it shut. But Scarfman and his pregnant wife are left behind, and Scarfman's like, let us in, let us in. Dad's like, fucking, no, dude, I'm not gonna risk this and his daughter's like screams at him because he had been nice to her and his daughter's like he was nice to me let him in let him in and eventually the kindness prevails and he like slides it over and shuts it but just then a bunch of zombies come up but they managed

to get the door shut it's like a very tense moment. And the zombies are like slamming on the door, slamming on the door. And Scarfman's like holding it shut, holding it shut. And then the dad's like, wait a minute. I think you can let go of the door. They can't figure out how to open it. Oh. It's like a little lever. Yeah.

And you have to like do a two-step process basically to open the latch. So the zombies are now like out but banging on the glass and freaking out. Everybody's like, what the fuck is happening? And then... He realizes, Dad realizes,

they only started attacking when they saw us. And so the pregnant wife grabs a bottle of water and a newspaper off a chair next to her and starts kind of pasting newspaper on the glass door, dividing them. And as soon as it's completely covered.

Decoupaging. A decoupage. Exactly. And as soon as it's completely covered, the banging stops and they kind of give up. I like what we've established here. They are very, very fast, very, very violent, but very, very stupid. Yeah. And visually motivated.

So if they see you, they attack you. And if they attack you, they get you basically. So then they're all in these train. They're all in a train car. And then there an announcement comes on from the conductor. And he goes, look, we're not going to stop at the next stop. We're unable to, we're just going to keep going because the next station is closed. Because there are, there is an incident that has happened.

Everybody's perfectly safe. We don't know what it is, but something is up. So we're just not going to stop at the next one. So just hang tight. And everybody's like, oh don't know what it is but something is up so we're just not going to stop at the next one so just hang tight everybody's like oh man come on you know how that goes uh then the dad's phone rings his huge phone rings and it's a call from his mother um who we had met earlier who was kind of his moral center and she says like hey what's going on out there oh no there's people rioting and oh no something is happening and and his he listens to his mom turn into a zombie on the phone holy shit and the daughter is looking

up at him knowing that he's talking to her grandma and so she afterwards is asking is grant is granny okay is granny okay and he's just kind of in shock and doesn't respond to her and he doesn't have the courage to tell her but also like you can't blame him we have that and now we get to the train station they were supposed to stop at and so the train slows down because you have to they have to slow down and they're moving through and the people on the train see like there's people at this train station like it's not waiting to get on the train there's people waiting to get on the train what the fuck is this and then as they get closer the people start banging on the windows pleading to let them on pleading pleading pleading and then all of a sudden

they start getting tackled by zombies who are on the platform just they just like drop out of the window and everybody starts screaming and then the train picks up speed and clears out of there and they're like fuck what the fuck and so the train keeps going they they turn on to the they turn to the tv and we have a government spokesman who's like, hey, look, what we're experiencing is nothing to be concerned about. There are some rioters who are misbehaving, and I assure you we will do everything we can to make sure that any rioters who damage government property will be dealt with and punished and fined or whatever.

And he's like, whatever. And then we cut into one of my favorite things in a in a movie like this when we get uh like user generated news footage like cell phone footage that people have shot and sent to the news and you see it's it's so good it's a group of teenagers skateboarding and a guy does like a kickflip. And then they pan up. And there's government, like military helicopters flying overhead with just dozens of zombies hanging off of it. Oh, yeah. And they fly over. And then one of the zombies on the helicopter, like a few of them like get dropped.

Like they like lose their grip and fall. They fall. And then the camera pans down. And then just after it pans down, one of the zombies crashes into a car, like smashes into it. Then another zombie lands on the concrete. Then another zombie lands like right in front of them. And they're all like, what the fuck? And then all the zombies.

Yeah. And then all the zombies get up and start chasing them. And then we cut out of that. It's wild. It's so fucking good. That's what the news is like. Let's put this one on. This one seems like the least controversial. That's so fucking good. That's what the news is like. Let's put this one on. This one seems like the least controversial.

That's their selects. Oh, yeah. And the government, after that, they cut back to the government guy and he's like, to the best of our knowledge, your safety is not in jeopardy. And then they cut to his VO saying that over just a city that is just totally on fire, buildings exploding. So, like, the government is government is obviously like covering this up. Yeah.

I'm feeling very triggered by this movie. I know. It's crazy how much scarier this movie is to me right now than it probably would have been a year ago. Emily, I'm so sorry. I forgot that a person fell on you while you were doing kickflips the other day. You were doing kickflips. And that's exactly what I mean. I was doing skateboarding

tricks and someone fell on me and then chased me. Why didn't you include that in the beginning in the that's what subsection? Oh, I'm too affected to talk about it. When you're doing your

skateboard tricks and something bad happens, it takes time before you can talk about it. There was something about the way you said skateboard tricks that reminded me of Moira Rose. I think we just talk like Moira Rose. Well, keep in mind Sammy didn't know what you call the area where poor people on a train sit earlier.

So now we're establishing she's very ritzy. She's, because you're skateboarding tricks and wherever you sit in what is it economy how much could a banana cost michael 12 dollars 12 dollars so so now the dad is like freaking out okay we've seen zombies on the train. We've seen zombies attacking people. We see zombies falling from the sky. This is serious. He pulls out his phone and this is where we get the big ex-wife reveal.

He pulls up her contact and calls ex-wife, but she's not answering her phone. Uh-oh, folks. That's about the only time that you hope your ex-wife will answer your call. Yeah, there we go um so now they go and they sit in like this vestibule another vestibule and you know how like when you're on trains they have

like those little fold down seats and stuff so they they he and his daughter sit down he's like making sure she's okay and then the two old ladies are in there and the daughter like gives up her seat for one of the old ladies and the dad is like hey like look you don't have to do that to his daughter when they're aside he's like you don't have to do that just look out for yourself in times like this times like this think about just look out for you yeah protect yourself don't worry about these old

ladies and then she goes well but granny had bad knees oh my god it's so cute oh and you see the way the difference between these two people like you know he sees uh the people has problems and she sees her granny in other people you know and this is why she can connect with them um so now we get another announcement that the train will stop at the next station because the military is there and they will protect us. Um, and then the businessman gets a call about cities being shut down. Like all these different cities are being shut down. So he,

he leaves, dad leaves to take this phone call and leaves Sue Ann with, um, scarf man and his pregnant wife. And we also established that, um, the, the pregnant, um, woman calls her, her fetus sleepy. And we also established that the pregnant woman

calls her fetus sleepy. And she says her dad is too lazy to name her. So we just call her sleepy right now. Can I ask a very specific question? How pregnant is she? Is she a little pregnant? No, she's pretty pregnant. I would say, I don't know, seven months?

I just wanted to imagine it correctly in my head. I would say seven months would be my guess. I don't know how to judge that. I don't understand, seven months? I just wanted to imagine it correctly in my head. I would say seven months would be my guess. I don't know how to judge that. I don't really know either. I don't understand how pregnancies go. Because sometimes a woman's belly is just enormous and sometimes it's not. And they can be the same amount of time. To be fair, yeah. It's basketball size.

Bodies are different. Bodies are different. And you know what? That makes it make sense more to me that some bodies get affected by zombies really fast and some not as fast there's so many wellness articles about your reaction to a zombie bite it's just you don't compare yourself to others don't compare yourself to other people that get bitten by zombies so while that conversation is happening uh the dad gets a phone call from a friend of his who works in the army and he's like hey like we're pulling up to the station and the army guy's like yeah we're at this station he's

like can you arrange for to pick me and my daughter up and he's like okay fine i'll pick you guys up at this point at the station as he hangs up he sees that weird pts guy is like ptsd guy is hiding like behind some chairs and he overheard him and he knows exactly where this rendezvous point's going to be um and we don't know like much about this dude he's just like a just a weird guy um and so they get to the train station and there's nobody there it's a ghost town and so they all get off and like cautiously and um the business the businessman runs up to the conductor of the train he's like we need to get to fucking Busan. Fuck this shit. Because he's like. Businessman is the rich guy.

Yeah. Rich guy. Rich guy is probably better. And he's like, we got to get to Busan because he works for the transit. Like he works for a transit company. And he's heard through his connections that all of the every city is closed except for Busan. So like this is a waste of time. We should not be here.

We should just go straight there. So then they go into the, everybody goes in and the conductor's like, no, dude, this is what we're going to do. And the conductor's a good guy. Conductor's very sweet. And they go into the station and as they're like walking through,

they see like, you know, a bunch of suitcases are abandoned and people have clearly like left here in a hurry. It's kind of creepy. And all of the train passengers are walking one way and then the dad and suan peel off and go down a different hallway and the weird guy follows them he's like i know where you're going like let's let's go oh so suan wants to tell the others like come with us because um on that military the call with his army friend the army friend like reveals that like everybody on that train is going to be quarantined and his dad and her dad's like no no dude fuck

them we're gonna get out of here where i'm gonna keep you safe and she's like all you care about is yourself and she's so mad at him um so then uh they look down the hallway and they see kind of a figure staggering toward them and then we cut to everybody else on the train who's anchored by scarf and pregnant wife and they're going down an escalator and like onto like a main like kind of like tarmac area where they think that they're going to be like picked up by the military and they're going down and they see a whole bunch of uh military like men in military uniforms like their legs like standing in a big group and riot police all standing in all their legs okay and they go a little bit lower and as they go lower in the escalator, the angle reveals like they're all fucking zombies. And the zombies see them

and start running after them up the escalator. So everybody has to like try to run up an escalator or run upstairs as army zombies and riot cop zombies are like attacking them and eating them and fucking ripping them apart. Holy shit. Oh, and so the dad in this meanwhile is like trying

to call his friend who's supposed to pick him up and he doesn't answer he's moving towards uh the guy that was at kind of the end of the hallway that we don't someone also in a military uniform and he's like kind of running towards him um ptsd guy's also kind of moving towards him and they're like help help help us um and then we get a close-up on that guy and he has a bite mark and he's yelling help me help me and then as they get close to him a zombie flies out and nails this guy in the military uniform and dad is on the phone at this moment hearing the news like wait we don't we can't get in contact with anyone there we don't know if it's safe and he turns around and suan is back at the entrance to this hallway and he sees all the zombies from downstairs coming up from the escalator where the rest of the people were going.

And it's like this really great slow-mo shot. I have goosebumps just picturing it. He's like running for her, realizing. And there's no way he's going to get to her. There's no way. He's far. And the zombie is really close to her. he's far and the zombie is really close to her and just as the zombie is about to bite her scarf man dives in and like elbows the zombie elbows the zombie scoops up um suan and saves her

i really thought suan was gonna die in this moment i am ready for anything in this movie i'm ready for anything around the corner i was convinced she was gone also oh my god i mean i understand there's a lot going on but in horror movies if you have a young child they stay with pick them up yeah hold them carry them with you them always don't go on your huge phone and turn around don't walk down the corridor so then so now so scarf man has saved suan it's fucking awesome and then they uh then they start like fighting off zombies and stuff and then the baseball team is like over this way over this way they found like a door like these glass corridor with so it's like glass doors and a glass wall and they beckon everybody and like run run run run, run, run, run. Everybody who can runs in. But the dad is like dealing with like fending zombies off.

He's like basically a zombie's got him like choke in a chokehold. He grabs a book off the floor and shoves into the zombie's mouth and is like fighting the zombie off. And Scarf Man runs into the doors and turns out and sees dad and he goes, asshole, asshole, come on. Hurry up, asshole. He's like affectionately calls him asshole. It's really funny. Then a whole bunch of other people who are panicking try to get on the train. So I think the pregnant wife has Sue Ann and they're running to the train.

And so holding down this glass door corridor situation is Scarf Man and Baseball Guy and PTSDd guy and they're calling over dad who's like fighting off at simultaneously other people try to get onto the train again but they open the wrong door and it's the it's the door with all the other zombies in the train so they let all the zombies off the fucking train and so now they're coming from that angle too right and so now the businessman is back on the train trying to get it to leave. And the conductor's like, I'm not fucking leaving everybody. We're going to wait. Like, hold on.

And the businessman is, like, really fucking pissed about it. So now I think at this point, right, the baseball team and stuff run away from their door and the zombies start breaking through. And they're, like, all trying to, like, get onto the train. Now, like, the train starts to, like, pick up. Well, they get dad. Did we say that? Yeah. They get dad through and they managed to shut the door. I thought by that you meant the zombies got dad.

I was like, well, what? You're just going to say it like that? No, baseball. He makes it. He like makes it through the corridor to the other side. And I think I'm like rushing to this moment because it's so fucking badass where like the camera is down on the platform level as people are like running towards it and the train is starting to move. So like trying to like run and get onto the train. And then the camera pans up and the zombies break through the second story windows of the train station and just start raining down from the second story onto the platform and like springing back up and chasing everybody.

It's like like crazy shit. Oh my God. down from the second story onto the platform and like springing back up and chasing everybody's like like crazy shit oh my god and everybody's running and um like suanne and the pregnant wife get on with one of the old ladies one of the other old ladies gets like picked up and pulled on and the dad and scarf are like running and the dad managed to get on. But Scarf is like a little bit behind and he has to like fight off some more zombies and stuff. Gets his way through them and then gets onto the train. Scarf Man is the protagonist. Sorry. Scarf rules.

Scarf Man is the number one. Wait, do we have any background on Scarf Man? No, he's just like an expectant father that's really protective of his wife and he's very buff he's very buff so we're back on the train after scrambling the the old lady sisters slash lovers have been separated. And... Dad and Sue Anna are separated. Scarf and pregnant wife are separated. Everyone is separated.

But except for... Oh, wait, yeah, everyone. And then the baseball boy, who's the only surviving baseball player. In the process of the escape, the baseball team was killed by zombies. And then another good chunk of them had been killed in the initial attack on the train he's been separated from the cheerleader girl the parasite

parasite boy and cheerleader girl have also been separated girl yeah and so now we're all in different cars but what who we do have together is dad scarf and Boy. And they're going to become just a set of heroes. A trifecta. And yeah, real trifecta. Now, so now we're in with pregnant and crazy man. And Sue Ann. And one of the old ladies.

One of the old ladies. And they look around and they realize, oh shit, we just jumped onto a car with zombies in it. Zombies on either either side they're basically in a vestibule with a car full of zombies on both sides of them who haven't noticed them yet because they're only alerted by sound and i guess they've been quiet and so they start like there's there's bathrooms in every vestibule. And so they just slowly start all piling into a bathroom. And just as they're closing the door, the zombies hear them and run at them. And so now they're being attacked by zombies while they're trying to hold this door shut.

Dad and Scarf get a call from the pregnant woman who's like basically saying like oh my god like we're in this bathroom we're being attacked we're in train we're in car number 13 can you come and get us and they're like fuck dude we're in car number nine so we have to get through four fucking cars full of zombies before we can get to our people what are we gonna do and they're like well let's fucking figure this out so they basically like dad takes off his beautiful blazer and scarf man takes off his blazer and they get like suited yeah yeah and they put like they're like taping around their forearms arms um so they can't get bit they like grab a baseball um bat The baseball kid has a baseball bat.

Dad has like a pipe. The dad gets this shield and baton. Baton, yeah. And then Scarf just goes straight up. I'm just going to fucking box my way through this. He just like tapes off his arms and is like ready to like box his life. That's crazy. That's crazy. So they go into the first car.

They fight their way through. It is very difficult, but they make it. They're punching and baseball batting and beating these zombies away, but they make it through. Holy shit. That was exhausting. How the fuck are they going to get through three more of these? This is bad. Right.

So they go into the next car, and it's Baseball Boy's entire baseball team. It's the whole zombie baseball team. So Baseball Boy is just frozen. He's like totally scared, totally freaked out. It's all his best friends. They're all dead and zombies and start to attack. Oh, no. So he's, yeah, he's like paralyzed.

He can't do it. He can't even swing his bat. He can't like bring himself to do anything. And all of a sudden, it's like looking very bad because now it's two on 12 or whatever. Right. But then they enter a tunnel. And when they enter this tunnel, all the zombies stop. Oh, because they can't.

They're stupid. They're stupid. They're stupid and darkness just shuts them off somehow. Well, they're looking at the lights that are going by. They get distracted by the strobing lights and basically stare off into space. So then they work their way past the zombies and then the light comes back on. They get out of the tunnel and then the zombies attack once more just like they did before. So we see here light factors into this.

So they made it past just barely the next car they go in and it has a fucking shitload of zombies it is jam-packed with zombies they realize like there's another tunnel coming up so we'll wait and we'll time it for the tunnel and we'll go in once they do that so it happens then they're they like the dad hatches this very smart plan where they go in they like tuck behind some seats like about halfway down the train and then the dad takes scarf's phone puts his phone number into it then throws his phone or put scarf's phone number into his phone throws that phone behind where they had just been and then calls it so that phone rings and it's an embarrassing phone ring and then all the zombies like go for the phone like attack it but kind of blindly so they can easily while they're distracted past them yeah our heroes then move past them so okay we're like working this out and um they get and then now

they're there they're they're at number 13. They found our people. And then they say, here we are. We're here. We've got you. Everybody's happy. And then they need to hide in another bathroom again because they came out of the tunnel. Yeah, the lights come back on or whatever. And so they're across the hall and in bathrooms across from each other. While they're in the bathroom, our heroes have some banter.

This is when they talk about, I think, dad's not getting credit for the sacrifices that they make stuff like that and then um the the baseball boy texts the cheerleader that's like hey we just saved some people we're coming up to you guys which is pretty fucking studly shit right baseball boy so she's up in the like first class cars with the rich man and a whole crew of survivors up there. And she goes, oh, my God. Like, my friend, he survived. They're coming up this way. He's with a few more people.

They're going to come up to us. And the rich man goes, what do you mean? What if they're infected? Yeah, like through all those cars of monsters. Like, how do you know that they're not going to be infected? So, so we're set up now. We have a,

a, a problem. And so now they go through, um, they go through another tunnel and they all leave the bathroom. Um, and they're like, but how do we get past this next batch of zombies?

And the dad sees like the overhead bins that you like store your luggage they could crawl along those and so that's what they do they crawl along they make it past except for at the very end weird guy as he steps down off of the overhang he slips and falls and gets the zombies attention and here we have an arc moment where the dad runs to get him but before they can get out they come out of the tunnel and so it's light again and the zombies are back active again looking for them and they realize like oh fuck we're just gonna have to run so look at me and like scarf is like come on come on come on and so the dad's like look i'm gonna count i'm gonna count down from three and then we'll run for it because we don't have any other choice so it's like very

tense and he goes three two one and then on one the weird guy steps on a empty soda can and it goes like and then all the zombies run after them and have to like run and they dive and they make it out just barely once more so we did it so but they don't like they don't close the door entirely right yeah the zombies get some of their hands through and they can't all the way shut it um now now they're in one they're in the the car just before where rich man and cheerleader and all those people are there so on the one end scarf is holding the door shut to keep the zombies out on the other end they'vef is holding the door shut to keep the zombies out. On the other end, they've realized the people in the next car have locked them out.

They're like holding the door closed. And they've sprayed the glass with a fire extinguisher to fog it so that zombies can't see it. And so now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place, you might say. You might. in and so now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place you might say um where on one end the zombies are like starting to crack the door as scarf is holding it shut as best he can and the dad is like using a baseball bat to like beat the zombies back but like there's just so many of them they can't do it on the other end they're pleading with the people to let them in and the rich man is like no fucking way and he has convinced everybody except for the cheerleader and the old lady not to let anybody in.

No. So now the baseball player is like hitting the door with his bat to try to break it open to let them in. And it's totally crazy. So now as they're like, as Scarf is trying to hold the door shut, a zombie bites his hand. No, Scarf. No. hold the door shut a zombie bites his hand no scarf no so now scarf is holding the door but it's like cracking like that like splintery spider webby

cracks in the glass and he knows it's not gonna hold much longer so he tells the dad like look you gotta take care of my wife protect her make she's make sure she's okay and he's like and then the dad is like no no no no no no don't do this and i think one of the things is so effective about this movie is like you see

this guy who has only cared about himself midway through the movie learns like the value of caring about people and then right here it's like and here's the the price that you pay for caring about people is you can lose them and so he's like just realizing this like the price he's paying for it and then he looks in the and pregnant woman is like screaming like no no no no no and scarf turns to her and says the name of the baby to her and his wife like is devastated but she can't help but smile a little bit that he named it. And so then dad basically rips her away and pulls, and then just then the door explodes,

and zombies come rushing in, and he holds them off. But even as he's doing this, he starts to turn, and so you can see his eyes start clouding over, and his veins start to bulge, but he still is fighting them off, like shaking his head to be like coming, like retain his senses. And he buys him as much time as he can, but it's not a lot. And they, in the meantime, everybody makes it through and, and gets in. And everybody except old woman number two. Oh, right, right, right.

Old woman number two. She has the ability to make it through, but she chooses not to to continue to buy time. And she makes eye contact with her friend or lover to basically indicate to her, like, I'm going to do this. And the other woman is like, don't, don't, don't. And then she and then she does. So now the train car. Wait, wait. First, the dad, they're all in there and the dad punches rich guy in the face.

Oh, right. Right. And he's like pissed because it's their fault now that these two people have died because if they had just fucking let them in in the first place they would have survived and everyone would be alive rich guy is who the dad would have been if he hadn't had these moral lessons so true precisely um so

dad punches rich guy in the face and he's like was it like worth it like you fucking killed these people and rich guy looks at him and yells he's infected he's infected like look at him and yells, he's infected, he's infected. Like, look at him, he's violent, he's punching me,

look at his eyes, and convinces the whole rest of the car to kick them out, even though they're all clearly human, and it's like this moment of them being like, wow, we're being banished. And everybody in that car, though, has been whipped into a frenzy, and they're terrified. Yes, yes, yes. And, like, this guy's very Trumpy style, like, saying, like, I'm your leader.

I will get us through this. Like, these guys are bad. Right. Let's kick them out. These are the danger. We need them gone. So, yeah. Then they kick them into the vestibule.

So, then they lock them in the next vestibule up to, like, quarantine them. But the cheerleader is, like, goes with them. She's, like, fuck you guys. How could you do this? So, she goes and stays with our heroes. people up to like quarantine them but the cheerleader is like goes with them she's like fuck you guys how could you do this so she goes and stays with our heroes and quarantines with them then the other old lady she goes and walks to the back door looks at her friend or sister or whoever in the eye and sees that she's a zombie and goes you idiot who were you saving look who you saved look who these people are like for what they've done for what

for what for fucking for these people and she's just like so nihilistic about like what she just saw and what her friend died for to lead to that and so she just opens the fucking door and all the zombies rush

in and kill everybody in that fucking car while our heroes are sealed off in the next thing up and they're just like against clouded glass like watching people just get wasted and blood splatter and screams and zombies everywhere and they're safe holy shit that's wild I love it

that's unexpected and we cut back to our heroes as they sit quietly in this vestibule the zombies can't see them they're kind of like recollecting themselves and then the dad's like oh it's your birthday to his daughter like in all this like oh man it's your birthday happy birthday honey seriously and his daughter reveals she's like talking about like you know just like earlier like she was so scared she thought she'd never see him again and then she goes like and that's why i sang that song that's why i sang that song was for you and she says that's why i couldn't

finish it was because i couldn't she's like i forgot the words because you weren't there and and i didn't finish it because you weren't there. And that's why I forgot everything. That's why I didn't finish it. Holy shit. And it's so heartbreaking. And so he tries to call his ex-wife again. She doesn't answer. And then Kim, he gets a call

from his analyst, Kim, who says that Busan is still safe. Like, it still is okay. But this whole outbreak started at YS Biotech, which is their investment thing. And he's like, did we do something? Did we have something to do with this? Is this our fucking fault? And he's like, hysterical.

And the dad is like, no, you didn't know. You had nothing to do with this. And I think it's meant to be fairly ambiguous because after the dad gets off the phone he talks that dude down he like he's in a bathroom and he takes a call and then he hangs up and then he washes blood off of his hands and his face like out out damn spot that's what i was like mcbeth happening he's so and then he yeah and he starts to cry and break down it's like oh so you did have something to do with this and you know it i think is the implication like he funded some project or or did some scheme with them um so then the train jolts and starts breaking um and they pull into a another

train station in the city that they're in and it is wrecked and there are broken and crashed trains all over the tracks they have to stop they do the conductor announced it comes over the intercom and says like look this station is broken what i'm going to do is find another engine and i'm going to put it onto the far left track and just get to that track and i will come and i will pick you up and we'll get the fuck out of here. Just like, good luck. And he signs up and he says, Godspeed. And as he's doing this, it montages through like zombies in other cars.

It shows our heroes. And then it shows the rich man and his little crony attendant who we haven't really talked about very much hiding in a bathroom. They have survived so now the conductor stops the train he like runs out and starts looking for his the next train they're all like making a run for it our group of heroes are making a run for it the train conductor finds another train it gets in it and starts like moving it along where he needs to go so we're feeling pretty good here like Like we have our escape train. It's working. So then we come back into the bathroom with the rich man and the train attendant.

And the rich man peeks out of the bathroom and sees that there are zombies all over the car. He goes back into the bathroom and the attendant's like, what's it like out there? And he goes, oh, it's totally clear. Coast is clear. Coast is clear. Coast is clear. Go for it. And so the attendant like peeks out and the rich man shoves him into all the zombies as

a diversion and just runs out of the train. So his like little crony just gets fucking smashed and he runs away. Rich people are bad. Yeah, rich people are bad. So after that, then the conductor's going along and he sees all of a sudden like careening down the tracks is a burning train just like out of nowhere like just shooting through and it crashes into all the other wreckage and crash trains and creates a huge you know like earthquake type thing right um and it which then releases a bunch of other zombies off of other trains that have been locked in so now we have a ton of zombies.

So then our heroes are kind of like separated at this point. And so Baseball Boy and the cheerleader are trying to make their way through a train. And they like get in one door and they're going to like go straight through another door to get through. But the door is shut and they're like trying to bang it open. And as that's happening, the rich man runs in behind them. He's being chased by a zombie. He runs in, grabs the cheerleader girl and throws her at the zombie and she gets bit. And then the baseball boy fights off the zombie as the rich man escapes.

And then the baseball boy is devastated. He holds the cheerleader in his arms as she is dying and he's apologizing to her and as she's turning and then she just bites him on his neck as she's dying in his arms oh my god oh so in in all the chaos like the the dad was knocked out by the crash he was like flung and like knocked out he comes to and now now they see, he looks up, and they're trapped underneath a tipped-over train. So this train's tipped over, but another train behind them is holding it up. So then we go back to our conductor, and he sees the rich man running across the tracks

being chased by a bunch of zombies toward the new train. And the conductor's like, fuck, I gotta help this dude. Oh, the rich man trips over a track and twists his ankle and falls over. And so the conductor's like, fuck, I gotta go help this dude. So the conductor gets off the train, runs to the rich man to help get him up.

And the rich man just casts him aside and feeds him to the zombies. No, the rich man is so bad. He's so bad. He's very bad. He's so bad. So the rich man then so bad. He's so bad. He's very bad. He's so bad. So the rich man then jumps onto the train by himself. So now the train that our heroes are kind of like trapped under collapses down even more.

And the zombies like herky jerk and the glass starts to break on their windows. And he managed to climb through a little hole, like a little gap, a little hole he finds. He climbs through it, tries to get everybody out. But then down the line, a whole bunch of glass breaks and a bunch of zombies fall out. And the weird guy, our favorite weird guy, sees it and he goes and he basically like decides he's going to sacrifice himself to buy time for Sue Ann and the pregnant woman to get out. So he runs, holds off the zombies as Sue Ann and the pregnant woman

climb out of the hole, and he gets iced by the zombies. And then all the whole train, then all the zombies fall out of all of the windows, and then the train crashes, and our heroes start running away as the zombies start jumping over the train to chase them. So now they're all running. So we got Dad, Sue Ann, and the pregnant woman. They're all that's left of the

good guys. And they're being pursued by like hundreds. Hundreds of zombies. Just a shitload. So then they manage to run up to the train, the like new train as it's like slowly moving along. Everybody gets on but all but like one of the zombies grabs a hold of the back of the train as it's going.

Then another zombie grabs that zombie. Then another zombie grabs that zombie. And all of a sudden, they have like a literal zombie train. Like hundreds and hundreds of zombies are like just being dragged by this train. And it's like slowing it down. And so the dad's like trying to kick them off as like this train full of weird, crazy tail of zombies is like going across the track. So he managed to get them off.

It's a really great shot. It is a fun little set piece. So he gets them all off and now we just are on our train and they're like, breathe a sigh of relief. Like, whew, we've done it. So the dad walks up to the engine room expecting to find the conductor there. And what he finds instead is the fucking rich man who's looking away from him. Oh, fuck that guy. Fuck the rich man. So he opens his door and sees this

guy. And then the rich man turns around and he's a fucking zombie. Of course he is. He's got those milky eyes. His veins are all crazy. But what's really weird is that the guy turns to the dad and goes like, help me me he doesn't know that he just want to go home yes so he speaks to the dad as if he's like i'm i'm scared my mom is waiting for me i want to go home and the dad like breaks the news to him and he's like you're you're one of them like you're turned and rich guy looks down at his hands and sees his bulging veins and he's like no no no no no no no it can't be it can't be no i can't be i can't be and then at that moment

fully turns but i feel like there's like a real like this is like a creative choice here where my read of it was like the guy was like well if i zombie, then fuck you. And that's what turned him all. He's like, well, if I'm a zombie, then I'm going to make you a fucking zombie. Cause he's so, yes,

I could, I could buy that for sure. And then, so he, then they fight and they have a zombie fight on this like moving, uh, train engine. And,

uh, it looks like the, the rich zombie has the dad in a pretty bad position, but the pregnant woman steps in and like pulls him off. And then he goes for her the dad grabs the zombie to pull him away and in the process rich zombie bites dad in the hand

bad news hate it hate that very bad news so now the dad knows he's got it he then he ties a chain around himself grabs the rich zombie and basically hurls them. Rich zombie.

But the chain holds the dad in place so he doesn't fly off. So the rich man is gone. He's been vanquished. And I do think to Henley, your point, the rich man was everything that the dad was on a one way train to becoming like a train with no brakes on it to becoming that man so he had his final showdown with him and manages to overcome it but then has been infected so he rushes after he recovers he rushes pregnant woman and suan into the like conductor's booth shows uh the pregnant woman like where the throttle and the brake is make sure she's got it like like just keep going and then he turns to his daughter and

we have just the most gutting moment where he he is like she's like pleading with him don't leave don't leave don't leave don't go don't go don't go and this little girl's performance is so fucking incredible heartbreaking and shattering and he her like fingers they like set up earlier that he they like hold hands in this particular way and she's doing that and he has to like pry her fingers off of him to be able to throw him like to be able to get out of this room and then like looks at the pregnant lady to hold her back and so then the pregnant lady grabs her and is like holding her restraining the daughter and she's just like screaming like don't go dad dad and the dad walks Like full tilt scream crying little girl voice.

Like so convinced. It's like chilling to hear it. And then the dad walks to the back of the train. And he's standing on the back of the train. And. His eyes are getting cloudy. His eyes get cloudy. And his veins are popping out.

And he's turning into a zombie. And he. It intercuts with his daughter being born and he's remembering his daughter being born and it's like going back and forth between him turning into a zombie and then clinging to this memory and as he's turning he's smiling because he's thinking about his daughter's birth. He smiles and then slow motion throws himself off the back of the train. And so then we cut back into the engine room with the pregnant woman and Sue Ann. And the train, we like cut ahead in time a little bit.

And the train has come to a another tunnel on a bridge that has been blocked off and the train slows down and comes to a stop and they step off the train and they see there are twisted and mangled bodies everywhere but some of them are in military wire like this was maybe a blockade at one point the river is filled with corpses and they keep walking past. You get one final really good jump scare as they walk past the body. Just a hand shoots up. And then they keep

going and then they step into the train tunnel. And then we cut to the other side of the tunnel. We see a sniper rifle and an army man who's looking through the scope of a sniper rifle at like a trench. And he has his scope on the two of them and and goes like to his person like there are two bogeys coming in and they're like confirm. Are they infected or are they survivors?

And he's like, I cannot because they're all like crazy injured. So they're stumbling. He's like, we can't tell. You can only see their silhouette. He's like, I can't tell. So they give him the order like, so execute them, kill them, shoot them. And so he puts his finger on the trigger. He's watching.

And then all of a sudden, echoing through the tunnel, you hear the little girls singing, Aloha. No. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha.

Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha.

Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha.

Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha.

Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha.

Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha.

Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha.

Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha.

Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha.

Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha.

Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. army runs to them like tons of people start running to them and we cut back to a close-up of the little girl and she says the line until we meet again and she's crying and then it cuts to black it's so sad and beautiful how how am i actually crying it's i honestly i didn't see this movie i was sobbing that's literally the best movie we've ever done. It's okay. Oh my God. I have a lot of thoughts about how it, to me, doesn't even totally feel like a horror film. I know that it is.

That's why I like it so much. That I feel like this is one that everyone could watch. I think everyone could watch it. Yeah. I texted Emily and I said I thought she could probably handle it because it does. I was actually like after watching it, I was like, oh, I wonder how well this is going to do for your podcast because it's like not that scary. It's more of like an action thriller. I think it's more of an action.

With the heart of a drama. There is violence and blood and, you know, zombie shit. But I'd say overall... I feel like it's closer to Air Force One than it is to 28 Days Later or something like that. Where it's about set pieces and it's about the train and the mathematics of if there were zombies on a train,

what would happen? Mm-hmm. Well, is it because horror movies um generally i mean we can debate what a horror movie is till the end of time but i feel like one thing that i've learned about horror movies is that it just makes you feel like disturbed about if uh something about life in a way that's incredibly like unsettling maybe because I do feel like this is kind of playing to the the good side of humanity

I don't know if I'm putting that well but it's like it's a hopeful movie and it's saying like people have can be inherently good and we have this within us and it's a choice and you need to be kind to people around you like the message is

positive and I think yes maybe that is what it is is that it doesn't feel scary to me because I'm left with nothing but a little bit of heartbreak but also like oh people can be good like it doesn't make me feel shitty and like the bad guy

the bad guy dies the rich guy dies like the the good the good guys win the pregnant woman and the the most vulnerable come out may potentially not emotionally unscathed but physically unscathed that's why i liked it yeah and i was even i was even expecting i feel like in a typical horror and more of the movies that we've done like i was fully ready for that sniper to shoot them both like oh they got through all of this and then they're gonna get shot but they she sings instead and i started crying at the idea of it just imagine seeing it emily and it's the words that And it's the words that she had forgotten when her dad wasn't there before. But she feels that he's with her now, so she'll never forget the words again.

Oh, my God. It's so sad. See, now this is why I won't see this movie, because it's too sad. I don't know if I can handle it. That was amazing. That was so... I'm moved. Me too. This is a great one... I'm moved. Me too.

This is a great one. I think everyone should watch it. Listeners, I think you should give it a try. It is streaming for free on Amazon Prime and Netflix. No excuses. Oh my God. Something for everyone. Joel, thank you so much.

Joel, thank you. Honestly, I was so captivated the entire time. That movie was amazing. I feel like I've seen it, even though I haven't. And I'm going to tell people I have to sound cool. Thank you for having me for a third time. I did have an idea. This is probably weird.

I had an idea for frequent guests. You could call us horror respondents. That's my idea. I had an idea it could be for anyone but specifically me that when they come on or me you might give them a name and it could be correspondent honestly I love it

it's like weekend update but you're gonna have to just slide in like on a wheelie chair and have like a little comment. All right. I love it. Yeah. You're our number one correspondent. Wow.

Thank you. Thank you for that honorific. Thank you. Where did that come from? And you know what? What I love about it is it's easy to say. There's no funny. There's no voices okay so i'm gonna try to keep oh alert i'm gonna try to keep keep nailing home this lesson learned thing what's our takeaway what's our lesson learned i wrote down don't be a

dick i think it's that we um to survive we must live for each other and sacrifice for each other, not only care about ourselves. That sounds like a wordier way of saying don't be a dick. For me, the lesson here is know a song so that when it comes down to it, you can sing it to prove that you're a human. One lesson I learned from this movie also is don't try to competitively rank six-year-olds hotness against adult women. Or adult men. Yeah, don't assess the hotness of children. And don't do kickflips too much. That's it.

That's the end of that So we learned a lot this episode We learned a lot And yeah no voices maybe just like a zombie Growl We could all say aloha From all of us here at TSCW

Aloha Oh that's dark. Terrifying. Honestly, that was terrifying. Hey, everyone. It's Henley. Thanks for listening to another episode of Too Scary, Didn't Watch. If you had a good time, please head over to Apple Podcasts where you can rate and review us and subscribe. We're also on social media,

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