Too Scary; Didn't Watch - TRICK ‘R TREAT + LAMB MINI EPISODE

Episode Date: October 13, 2021

Wear a costume, hand out candy, and don't blow out a jack-o-lantern - we're recapping Trick 'r Treat! The perfect movie to brush up on your Halloween rules to avoid any unfortunate mishaps this holiday season.This episode also includes a mini recap of the new A24 film Lamb.Trick 'r Treat is streaming on HBO Max and Lamb is in theaters now.09:45 - Lamb intro/recap26:16 - Trick 'r Treat recap Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm back. And I'm too scared to watch scary movies. So relieved to have you back, Emily. Missed you so much last week. I was gone for one week. It was too long. It was too long. I hated it. I am Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.

I'm Sammy and I like watching scary movies. And so I watch them and I tell you about them. And I love to do it, especially in October. Oh, it's October. And it feels like October. I know. It's so great. I'm so happy. Because wasn't it super hot in L.A. up until recently?

It was so hot. It was so hot in L.A. And I also was in Florida is where I was when I was not here. It was visiting my parents who live in South Florida. And it was so hot. I have not lived in Florida since I was 18. And it's fucking so hot there. Oh, my God.

It was so hot. And it's not even the hottest time of the year. And coming back here and being like, and also I live in L.A., which is like not cold. But to come back and have it be like, oh, it feels like fall. It's so festive. Oh, it's an absolute treat, though. You know, being in Florida for short periods of time is also a treat. But it's nice to be home.

You know, it's nice to be home. Yeah. I've been giddy this past week that it's finally cold. I changed my bedding to my duvet and I was like so excited. I hung up Halloween lights and I just really got

in the holiday spirit. It's a very fun time of year. Oh my god. I'm really excited. And there was a thunderstorm here the other night. That never happens. I know. I missed it. I was so mad. And there was a thunderstorm here the other night. That never happens. I know. I missed it.

I was so mad. It was so cool. And I watched a scary movie. It was still kind of hot. And so I had all the doors open. And so I could just like see lightning and hear thunder with my Halloween lights up, watching a scary movie with my black cat on my lap. Oh, it was very fun. Also, reminder, I'm on my lap. Oh, it was very fun.

Also, reminder, I'm a witch now. Yes, it's your season. It's your season. Which Jenna was like, I just realized you're a witch with a black cat. Yes, I am. Yes, you are. Yeah, I had like a little cozy night last night. We made cozy food.

And look, I planned to watch a scary movie. I made a list of scary movies that I felt like I could handle and that I want to watch. I'm very brave now. And we watched the first of those Fear Street Netflix movies. And it's not scary. Yeah, I know I'm brave now, but it was not scary. So I guess I got to keep it it i did watch the shining i've seen it the other night but i watched it again the other night and it also i mean it's very scary don't get me wrong but not nearly as scary as i remembered it being i really

thought it was like constant scares and like a million ghosts i remember there being so many more dead people but there's not that many dead people it's more like a million ghosts. I remember there being so many more dead people, but there's not that many dead people. It's more of like a psychological drama in a lot of ways. The scariest part is for sure Jack Nicholson. Like that's the scary part. Yeah, definitely. Also, one more reason to say I haven't been here in a week and I'm like, this is the podcast where I just talk for an hour. Sorry.

So I'm excited. I'm excited to be here. But Stephen King doesn't like The Shining movie. And one of the reasons I remember him saying in AMC Visionaries presents Eli Roth's history of horror on Shudder.com that he does not like Jack Nicholson's performance, which

is like, Stephen, God, you're so wrong. You're so wrong. It's truly one of the most iconic performances of all time. It's incredible. It is. There was no, nobody else could have been cast in that role. The shots where he's just like sitting and staring, like, holy fucking shit.

He is so good in that movie. He's so scary. Yeah. And just as a reminder, the other reason he didn't like it is because he thought Kubrick made it into too much of a quote-unquote art house film, and it's like that's because he just made creative,

surprising choices. Like, you don't want that? You want it to be boring, predictable choices? A worse actor? A worse actor in a worse movie? Well, sir, jokes on jokes on because it's very good but i also i guess the point is i'm incredibly brave now so you are brave this is my first real

brave spooky season i think i'm like ready to there's some scary ones on my list so i'll let i'll let you know i was gonna say you're gonna have to you're gonna have to turn up the heat a little bit and watch a scarier one i will i'm i am inevitably definitely going to be watching the new paranormal um this month with our dear dear friend jan lippard in it and i'm very scared for that one but gotta do it has to be done yep yep anyway what's up with you guys um well speaking of scary things right before i got on this podcast something very scary happened which is that silas had the biggest poop blowout i've ever experienced in my life did it come like up and out of the diaper oh fully so tim was tim was gone tim's like gone until right before I record the podcast. And this happened like maybe like 15 minutes before we started recording.

And I was like holding Silas and I could tell he was pooping. Something was brewing. Because he was making his little poopy faces. And I was like, okay, so I know this is happening. So then I just brought him in to change him right away. And I open up and it's, guys, I'm sorry if this grosses anyone out. Of course it's going to gross people out. Look, I'm sorry.

This might be gross. I'm going to talk about a poop blowout. I'm sorry. Just fast forward if you don't want to listen about my son's poop blowout. But basically, he's like like literally just pooped but it got up to the back of his neck like into his oh my god and he'd already he'd already somehow rolled in it so it was like on his side too you guys it was an emergency i just my god I just bought these really cute clothes for him. And I had to put them in the trash.

I just put them immediately in the trash. I had to make a bath, like do a bath for him while he and like try to like wipe him off. And he's like crying. And I'm like drawing the back and making sure it's not too it's not too hot. I'm like alone. There's like poop like towels all littered through the apartment oh my god poor little silas poor little silas is so cute he started making faces that are more like little boy faces where he like pouts and so he's like kind of pouting and looking

really cute oh it's so cute he was happy once he was in the bath, but he was still like his eyes were all red and he was pouting and just looking at me like with his little like wet towel, like so cute. Oh my God. And so Tim came home to just like a fucking disaster of a house. And I was like, peace gotta go. I'm going to go record the podcast. That sounds like you dealt with the main disaster. Yeah, I think Tim's fine. I think Tim's fine. No, no, he's fine. I got Silas changed.

I was real disappointed about having to throw out his clothes right away, but... Bummer. Yeah, that does suck. That's never happened to me before. I'm just like... Yeah, hopefully they weren't the TSDW onesies. No, he does not fit into those TSDW onesies. I mean, they were babies outgrow things really fast. Or they poop all over them.

Or they poop all over them. Truly clothing is so disposable when it's that age, which is bad, but not helping with our environment. But anyway, that's, I just needed to tell you guys that that's what I was doing right before I popped on. Actually, Emily, so you said, like, can we have 15 more minutes? And I was like, thank God. Like, I. Yeah, because I had just woken up at 1045 a.m. We lead different lives now.

Oh, man, I really slept in. We have 15 more minutes. You're like, yeah, I'm dealing with a poop explosion. Oh, poor little Silas. What a morning. What a morning. Sammy, we also just put our duvet on our bed. And man, I sleep so much better with a duvet.

I like a little bit of weight. I really do. Me too. Me too. It's really wonderful. I feel very happy at the season change. I feel like in LA, we don't often get a fall. It kind of goes straight from summer to winter.

And I feel like we're getting our maybe little two weeks of fall in here. I feel like we are. Yeah. Fall is like October can be a really tricky month here. It's often still quite hot. And I feel like we've been really lucky this year to get like kind of an actual little fall. I might go do like some apple picking or something. I don't know.

I don't know. I want to do something. I'm going apple picking next weekend. Wow. This is so cute. I'm filled with joy. I love this. I love this season.

And you know what else I love about this season? The scary movies. And I watched a couple this week. And last week I had mentioned that we were probably going to do Lamb this week. I did see Lamb. And I decided that that will not be our main focus i am gonna tell us about it but it's not i don't i didn't think it was scary and it's um basically all of it is in the trailer and then there's like one more twist so we're gonna watch the trailer and then i'm

gonna tell you the twist at that happens at the end. Great. So if anybody doesn't want to hear it just very quickly, what happens in lamb, you can skip ahead. Cause then we're going to do another movie. Yes. Then we will be doing trick or treat,

which came out in 2007, but then was shelved for two, like premiered at a festival in 2007 and then was bought and then shelved till 2009. Wow. It was written and directed by Michael Doherty, who also did Krampus. Oh,

I love Krampus. So he's got the holiday horror. Yes, he loves a spooky holiday. I can't wait for spooky Valentine's Day. Guys, should we just do Krampus every Christmas? Even though it's so good, we can just retell it every year, once a year. That could be fun.

That could be fun. That could be fun. fun and in trick-or-treat it is starring anna paquin quinn lord dylan baker leslie bibb and brian cox my dad exactly um but before we get into that let's talk about lamb for a, which is directed by Valdemar Johansson, written by Valdemar Johansson and Sean starring Noomi Rapace, Hilmer Schneer-Gudnason, and Bjorn Hilner-Haraldsson. And it is in theaters right now. Yeah. Give us a little rundown on Lamb.

Just real quick. Okay. So I think we should watch the trailer first because that'll give you the rundown. Okay. Yeah. So let's watch the trailer. Have you guys not seen this trailer? No, I don't know anything about this movie.

I thought that you were talking about Pig the whole time you were talking about Lamb. Oh, that's when we left it. You know what's so funny is that there's also a movie coming out called Wolf this year. And so there's Pig, Lamb, and Wolf. How are we ever supposed to keep them? What's going to be what? Pig, Lamb, and Wolf. But okay but okay yes let's watch this trailer i think this is a very great trailer but it does kind of show everything the entire movie okay great do that okay let's do it um and fyi this trailer is in

icelandic so if you are listening uh you may not be able to understand it. So just watch the trailer. The link will be in the episode description. I'm sorry. Jag vet inte. Om du inte vill, då går du. Vad är det då? Ja, men jag... Я не всегда могу любить тебя, но так как у тебя есть звезды, ты никогда не должен сомневаться, что я сделаю тебе так уверенно. Горько! Горько! Терки-пап. MUZIEK Twerkipap.

MUZIEK Met de T's. MUZIEK Antaa! MUZIEK I can't. I mean, I've said it once. I'll say it again. I can't handle any movies now with any inkling of a baby that has died and a woman's trauma surrounding that baby.

It is. And it's every movie. It's every movie. It's a lot of movies. It's every goddamn movie. Motherfucker. Yeah. And that little lamb was so cute.

So cute. Really cute. That's like a terrible combination of things that I love. Tiny little things with hooves and a baby. Yes, I didn't even think about that. That is really cute. Oh my god, it was so cute. I'm so relieved actually that we're not going to do a full

run-down of this movie. Now I'm like, I mean, I know you said it revealed everything in the trailer, but I'm sort of like, but what is it? It's kind of like Servant in a way. Do you remember that m night shawmel on apple tv i never saw it but i've been wanting to see it oh right it's they have a fake baby

right and a mother believes that this doll is a real child or something like that exactly that's part of the story um yeah and so yeah it's just a woman's like psychosis after losing a child cool entertaining oh fun it's cool to be in a society that both understands and treats women and mothers well and then loves to deal with like it's like having babies makes women crazy what are we doing like what are we doing? And then apparently it makes the mom lambs crazy, too, because they're going after the. Yeah. Motherhood is a truly insane thing that we all just like are like, yeah, anyway, that's real.

You just have a child and then you're like. Yeah. I will say, Henley, when we first did rosemary's baby you i remember clearly you saying not enough movies talk about how scary motherhood is and now every single movie that we do why is that why had i not put that two and two together i think yeah it's just um until you do it your brain your brain changed and now your brain did change that is also a thing that does actually happen is your brain does literally change. Yeah, no, I know. My brain is completely different.

Tim keeps saying that Silas has hard boiled my brain only because the only thing I do now is just talk to Silas. And I'm like, I'm just like, hi, Silas. Hi. Oh, my God. What do you have? Is that your blankies? Oh, my God.

Look at you. You're so cute. Oh, are you smiling? Are you smiling from above? Tim's like, calm down. This is another thing that, again, I haven't fact-checked and I won't. But a thing that I heard is that when you have a child, like, your brain chemistry does change. Both the father and mother, your brain chemistry changes to, like, attach you to the child or something.

And for men, it changes back after a certain period of time. And for women, or I should say, the person who gives birth and carries the child, it never changes back. So, like, that is why motherhood

is so intense and insane. It's very intense. It's definitely intense. And that, yeah, the non birthing parent doesn't have that same experience of it, no matter what. Oh, my God. Fascinating. Sammy, what are you going to tell us about this? Yeah, tell us about this freaking movie. Freaking movie.

So, first, I will say that I thought it was a great movie. It looks beautiful. I really, really enjoyed it. It is beautiful. really really enjoyed it it is beautiful um and but yeah so basically as you saw it's a couple in rural iceland and they are sheep farmers breeders i guess shepherds shepherds yes and one of my biggest takeaways was how fucking scary sheep are. Lambs, very cute. Sheep, terrifying. Yeah, I mean, sheep are similar to goats. Goats are scary.

I love goats. You know this, but they're a weird, I mean, they're a weird animal. You mean just because they're weird? Like, just physically you think they're scary? I think physically their beady little eyes are really wild. Yeah, they're just spooky as hell. They're like to the side, but look right at you. Do you know what I mean? It's like

and so a lot of this movie is just kind of dread and really atmospheric like low string music and just lots of long wide shots of this like very open space with these creepy sheep.

So the atmosphere building is really, really great. And so I would say the only scary thing in it is there's a feeling of dread pretty much the whole time. Because you know something's not right and you know something bad is going to happen. But you see this couple, they do allude to having lost a child and as they are delivering a lamb um it comes out and you hear kind of a baby cry and hybrid lamb and they kind of have a knowing or a look share this look with each other and they take the lamb inside you don't really see anything below the lamb's neck for a while but you know something is different about this lamb you see the mother sheep being very distressed and it

comes to the window and is buying for its baby um over and over but we're seeing these parents very very smitten with this lamb putting it in a crib taking out the like the old crib and stuff from storage and falling in love with this lamb and but you hear the sheep buying outside uh is there okay bleeding what was what's the word fine fine bleeding works too one of those you know what i mean yeah fine is right for sheep though bleat bleating with tea yes that's yes yeah yeah that's what she said yeah and so not bleeding no i didn't say bleeding it's not bleeding it's bleeding it bleating. I just don't hit the T too hard.

Bleating. Ratatouille. Ratatouille. Ratatouille. Yeah. And so it's just this incessant noise that's driving the mother character, played by Numi Rupes, who is just so great.

And it's driving her crazy she eventually goes out and shoots it and kills the sheep because it's interfering with her happiness of thinking that this is her child because it's a reminder this this is the creature that birthed this lamb she kills it and uh then her husband's brother comes and visits. There's some dread there because he's very disturbed by the situation and there's an implication that he'll maybe kill the lamb. He's like, it's an animal. He takes it out with a gun at one point

to try to kill the lamb. The lamb's name is Ada. But he is eventually taken with her as well. They're this strange little family unit for a bit. And then at one point, Ada goes outside and we see you heard that kind of low grumbling, growling noise in the trailer. We hear that and we see Ada see something and there's this really scary shot it's a close close up on ada's face and you see in the reflection of her creepy little lamb pupil um uh basically a huge man body with a sheep head and so this is uh the father yeah the dad okay and as the uh mom at one point is taking the brother to

the bus station and the dad is with ada and they're going they're out in the fields or whatever and when the mom gets back she hears gunshots and we see the sheep man has killed the dad and takes ada away and and so have we seen ada's body by now is it a human body with a half human it's kind of it's from the neck down split hot dog style so it's still half um goat on the left side of the body or right side of the body so it has like two hoofed a hoofed hand and a hoofed foot and then a regular human hand and human foot on one side so 75 sheep yeah and yeah we get at the end we get a look at the sheep man that kills the dad and the mom comes home to find the dad dying and the child gone and that's the end and that's the end oh my god okay well i'm honestly really glad that we just got that brief uh summary yeah it kind of just felt like it wasn't enough to do a full long retelling of.

But I did really, really like it. And I do recommend it. I don't think it's too scary. It's more sad. Yeah. Yeah, it's just sad. Yeah. Because Numi Rapace is left alone.

Well, but you can't steal someone's baby and shoot them and take it for your own. No, no, you can't. You can't. You can't do that. No. I'm wondering how these half-sheep, half-humans live. What's that society like? Is there like a secret Icelandic

half-human, half-sheep society? Yeah, it kind of feels like a little folk tale. I don't know if it might be based on something like a lore that I don't know about, but it kind of feels that way um but yeah it was good cool cool we did it now we're gonna do trick or treat now we're gonna do trick or treat so let's watch the trailer for that okay okay this is the one night don't forget

your costume all sorts of things. Room free. The Halloween school bus massacre. Daddy! Shh. Be quiet. Why? You'll bother the neighbors.

Okay. Wait. There's another tradition. Always check your candy. I'm thinking I don't know. We heard voices. We're okay. We are poison! Lucas! Lucas! Over here!

You gotta be kidding me. I hate Halloween. Very crampoose vibes. Right? I didn't know that this was a silly movie. And it's very silly and fun. And I actually think... Part of the reason why we chose it is because it takes place on Halloween.

So it's a perfect one for October. And I really do think if you're looking for a not too scary movie to get you in the Halloween spirit, this is it. It's fun. It's funny. There are some good little scares in it. But it's mostly just a good time, I thought. The quotes,

the sources of the quotes for this trailer, chud.com. That's what I was going to say. It's Dread Central, Fangoria, chud.com that's what I was gonna say it's dread central fangoria and shock till you drop dot com and please don't forget chud.com

chud.com ain't it cool news I just love someone visiting dread central dot com everyday being like gotta check dread central the horror community hasral have to say? The horror community has a lot to say. Yeah, they do.

ShockTillYouDrop.com. Get Brian Cox looking all haggard. I know. He's got some prosthetics on. Ooh. Who's the guy who's the other guy? The dad? He's from The yeah the americans thank you

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So we move from kind of one... It's all in the same neighborhood. And there's a lot of fun. Like you'll see characters from one story in the background of another story. They intersect in kind of fun ways. And the first. It opens with a couple. Kind of at the end of Halloween night. Presumably returning home.

Dressed in their costumes. And their house is all decorated with ghosts in the front yard that are on little crosses, and they're regular human-sized, and they're creepy-looking. And the woman is Leslie Bibb, who I literally can't think of without hearing Sam Rockwell being like my fiance, Leslie Bibb. I don't know if you've ever heard Sam Rockwell give an acceptance speech, but he likes to name drop his first and last name. Yes, Leslie. He'll shout out Leslie Bibb. He one time. I'm sorry, this is such a tangent, but it fascinates me. Leslie Bibb, he one time, I'm sorry, this is such a tangent, but it fascinates me. On the red carpet, he was wearing like some sort of cuff link that I think said LB. And, you know, they like asked him, like, tell us about your what you're wearing today.

He's like, well, I've got this cuff link that says LB for my fiance, Leslie Bibb. I'm just like, again, he has to drop her name anytime anyone speaks to him about anything. I mean, I think a really cool interpretation of that is Sam Rockwell is much more famous than Leslie Bibb and maybe that's his way of being like, hey, here's a name to remember Leslie Bibb. Leslie Bibb. Hey, hey, everybody, look at Leslie Bibb. Hire

Leslie Bibb. I know. It's very funny to me. He's clearly like loves her a lot, which I like, but it is just very funny. That's cute. I'm going to start. Let's all do this. I'm gonna start only referring to Joel as Joel Jensen Yeah. Yes Joel Jensen. Joel Jensen

But so her and her boyfriend she is clearly doesn't like Halloween that much. I think she says I hate Halloween and she goes to blow out the jack-o-lantern. You can't do that. And her boyfriend says, you can't do that. It's ancient tradition.

And she's like, oh, that's not real. Blows it out. We see a little kid figure in a little burlap pumpkin head sack. This is a creepy little costume. Yeah, I don't like that. Watching from across the street looking like mad that she's blown out this jack-o'-lantern light. And she's like, well,

I'm going to start cleaning up and starts taking down all the decorations in the front yard in the middle of the night on Halloween night. Wait till the morning, you know? But I'm with her, though. Halloween decorations have to come down on November 1st. Yeah, sure. It feels weird to come down on November 1st. Yeah, sure.

It feels weird to have Halloween up in November. Sure, but it's like, do it in daytime. Especially if the taking down of the decorations involves pulling a sheet off of man-sized things at night, one after another. And so it makes for a very creepy scene. There's also limbs, plastic severed limbs hanging in the trees as decoration. And as she's pulling off the sheets one after another, eventually something jumps out at her, gets her. We see kind of little shots under the sheet of a pumpkin lollipop that has a bite in it that makes it sharp. So it's like a stabbing tool. And she is being attacked with this sharp lollipop. And we hear her screaming, but the boyfriend's inside doesn't see any of this and eventually comes out and finds her hanging in the tree or her

he recognizes her hand hanging from the tree because it has i think her wedding ring on it or something and looks at it and then pulls another one of the sheets off and her decapitated head is on one of the spikes or whatever. Yikes! Wait, hold on. I think they say... Okay! Okay! I don't know why this really got me. I don't know why I had that reaction.

In the trailer, I think they told us what the fourth secret rule is. You're not supposed to check your... They did, but Henley... Henley! We all just listened to the trailer. You want me to give it away?

Two. Sorry, I will leave it as a mystery for now, but if anyone was listening to the trailer, it says it. Oh, you just cut in to spoil the surprise for later. It wasn't a question about this scene? Well, it was because it felt like the lollipop was a...

The lollipop with the razor blade in it. No, it doesn't have a razor blade in it. It's just bitten into a sharp... Just a sharp lollipop. Yes. Oh. Do you ever cut your tongue in a lollipop?

I think I have, but not like that kind, but like the seam. You know how sometimes there's like a seam in like a blow pop where they stick the gum in? Just sourdough bread for me. Oh, yeah. I think so. I know. Sammy and her freaking sourdough bread. It's her weapon of choice these days.

But I have cut myself on ice and I think maybe that's a little similar. Kind of that sharp edge. Yeah. Anyways. Anyways. So that's the opening scene. Then we get titles and then we go back in a little... It has

this kind of comic book look. Yeah, those are in the trailer. That's interesting. Yeah. Is it based on a comic or is that just like the visual that they use? I have no idea. I know that it was a short film before. Hmm.

But they're just peppering in these little comic strips. And so it says earlier in that little comic font. And then we go to earlier in the evening and there's a kid walking, trick or treating and gets to a house where it has candy set out that says, just take one, please. Like, we're not here. Just take one. loading up his bag with all of it. And the man who lives there comes home and it is the man from the Americans. His name is Wilkins in this. His real name is Dylan Baker for anyone who's curious. And he's immediately suspicious and creepy and comes and sits down next to the kid. And it's like,

it's fine. It's fine. You got hungry. That's okay. And he's like, go ahead, eat it. Like, have a bite. Take some. And the kid starts eating it. And this is where Wilkins says, oh, but you forgot the fourth rule, Wilkins says, oh, but you forgot the fourth rule, which is always check your candy. And the kid just starts violently vomiting like so, so much and dies next to him, like collapses onto his lap. And the man picks him up and some other kids walk by and say, hi, Principal Wilkins. There's a little twist there that he is the school principal he waves

at them while trying to check your candy for poison yeah exactly yeah that was one of my main questions as well later we'll see some candy with razor blades in it which you could check for that but you can't check for poison no I guess you check if it's been opened yeah i guess

you don't need it yeah yeah yeah um so he starts trying to bury this boy's body in his yard he has a grave already dug with another body in it so clearly this he has done this before. And as he's burying it, the neighbor's dog is almost able to crawl under the fence and is kind of wriggling. And he's like, no, no, get out of here. And the dog is almost going to get through. And so he takes the shovel and breaks off one of the boy's fingers and throws it for the dog so that the dog gets distracted and has a little finger to chew on. Ew. And the neighbor's house is not lit up. No decorations.

And it's kind of spooky. And we hear the neighbor's voice saying, who's there? Get out of my yard. In a recognizable voice of Brian Cox. Can almost hear him say, ba-da-ba-ba-ba. almost hear him say, ba-da-ba-ba-ba. You recognize that from your McDonald's commercials the second

you hear it. Brian Cox infamously owns a McDonald's commercial. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. I fucking love his McDonald's commercials. They're so good. Oh my god. And Wilkins calls back it's me uh sorry and uh it's clear that they don't like each other and she says you know leave my dog alone he goes back

inside um wilkins continues burying the body and then then from the window, we hear a little boy say, Daddy, time to carve the pumpkins. And he turns around and is like, keep your voice down. And kid's like, why? We saw this in the trailer. And he's like, you're disturbing the neighbors. So not only is this man the school principal, he also has a small child of his own. Cool. What the heck is going on?

What the heck? What the freaking heck? He finishes burying the body and he goes back inside and as he is going into his front door we see brian cox banging on the window of his thing of his house saying like help me help me help me and wilkins kind of rolls his eyes like asshole like i'm not helping him goes inside and we see something take Brian Cox down. So he's being attacked by something in his house. Then Wilkins goes inside with his son and his son is saying like time to carve the pumpkin daddy. Can you make sure to help me with the eyes?

And Wilkins is like, yep, time to carve the eyes really menacingly and hides a little knife behind his back. And he's like, let's go carve it in the basement. And him and his son like walk downstairs and he is standing behind his son and his son is like facing the carving table. And he's like, make sure to carve the eyes spooky, dad. And he's like, yep, I will. Raises up the knife and plunges it down. It pulls it back. It's covered in blood now.

And then the camera pulls back to reveal the decapitated head of the boy he killed earlier. And him and his son are carving that head together. Okay, great. Great, great, great, great, great. So he's at least not killing his own son, but they have a very disturbing father-son bonding thing. He's raising another murderer. But, you know, they have shared interests. Yeah, that's true.

That's beautiful. That's a beautiful story, actually. A father-son bonding. That's actually really touching. It's nice to see a father and his child bonding. Honestly. Take time to be a dad today. Yeah. That vaguely reminds me

of Dexter. Did you guys watch Dexter? Yes. All the way up until the last two episodes and I never finished it because I hated it so much by the end. I don't know if I ever finished it either. It was so bad by the end. Oh, it was so bad. They're bringing it back.

They are? With the same actress? Yep. Just the, well, just the whole concept also, what it reminds me of is that wasn't Dexter like his dad or something like sensed that he was like a murderer and was like oh I sense this in you. Adopted dad I think. Yeah. And I shall

raise you to be like a practical responsible murderer. A better serial killer. Yeah. Cause he watched his real parents get murdered from like inside a box. He was in a box or a crate or something and it fucked him up. Yeah that's not okay.

That's not okay. I can't believe they're bringing Dexter back. What the hell? It should have ended with that John Lithgow season. That season was fucking good. That was a good one. Yeah, that was, I think that was the last season I watched, honestly. Oh, it was really good and very upsetting.

Anyway. Okay. Back to this movie. Back to Trick or Treat. Trick or Treat. Trick or Treat. Oh, yeah. Back to this movie. Back to trick or treat. Trick or treat. Trick or treat. Oh, yeah. Father, son bonding.

That's how we got there. That's the end of that little vignette. We move on to the next one. We meet Anna Paquin, who is with her sister and two friends. Paquin? Paquin. Paquin. I don't know.

I just don't know. Paquin. Paquin. Anna Paquin. Paquin. Paquin. I will call. Paquin. Paquin. I don't know. I just don't know. Paquin. Paquin. Anna Paquin. Paquin. I will call... I don't know her character name. We'll call her Anna. We'll call her Anna. Her and her sister and her two friends are in a Halloween store picking out their

costumes. They're wearing like slutty versions of Disney princesses and the sister and the two friends are very clicky. Anna's the odd one out and they're kind of making fun of her a little bit because her dress

isn't as slutty as theirs so she looks like a little girl rather than a hot sexy princess. What are you? Some kind of prude bitch? Yeah, exactly. Her sister makes a comment at one point saying, Mom always said she was the runt

of the litter, which is so weird. Oh, so mean. And they're planning that they're gonna go to a party that night, and they're like, we gotta pick up some dates on the way there, find some guys.

And the sister flirts with the guy that rings them up for their costumes at the end. And it's like, yeah, if you want to meet me when you're off at this party, he says yes. And they're pressuring her to find someone to invite to the party too. And she says, you guys i i want my first time to be special i don't want it to be just anybody and they're making making fun of her for that and rolling their eyes at her also crazy to be like invite somebody to the party so you can fuck them why is that one or the other it's a very very funny vibe um but then we we leave that story for a bit and we go to these four kid trick-or-treaters. They're like teenagers. And they pick up a girl that they refer to as an idiot savant, which I don't think you say anymore.

No, you definitely don't. Just savant, right? Or is it even that? Does she have autism? I don't know. Wellvant, right? Or is it even that? Does she have autism? I don't know. Well, they say that she does. She is different, but it's clear that they are inviting her along with them for nefarious purposes. They are being little assholes.

Bullies. Yeah. But they're pretending like, oh, come out with us. We're going to go to the rock quarry. yeah yeah but they're okay but they're pretending like oh come come out with us we're gonna um go to the rock quarry honestly those are my least favorite stories are when like an unpopular or like innocent dork is invited by the cool kids and the cool kids are just being mean that's exactly that breaks my heart every single fucking time it's not it. Yeah, it's not good. Yeah. Her name is Rhonda. She's dressed as a witch. She's very cool. She knows

the Celtic traditions behind Halloween, which, even though I'm a witch, I don't know yet. You're a new witch, Sammy. It's okay. But she's kind of telling the history of Halloween, and they're humoring her because they're trying to make it seem like they're her friend.

And they take her to an abandoned rock quarry and they say this is the site of the Halloween school bus massacre. and the kind of girl teenager that's clearly the one leading the pack a bit, kind of pressuring them all to be mean, the meanest of the bunch. She starts telling this story of the school bus that they would take these eight children who were disabled to and from school. And we're getting looks back in like flashbacks of these eight kids, each in a different Halloween mask. were so at the end of their rope that they pooled together all of their money to pay the bus driver to kill them. No.

And in this flashback, the bus driver drives to this abandoned rock quarry, parks the bus, and goes to each of the kids and checks. And he has chained each of them into their seat, like locked them in. Jesus. It's so horrifying. One of the kids is like rocking back and forth

saying like, wrong way, wrong way, wrong way. Like knows it's like not right. That is horrible. It's horrifying. And I don't know what the actual plan is. I think maybe he's gonna set it on fire. But one of the kids breaks from the chains and gets into the driver's seat of the bus and just presses the gas.

And it goes right off a cliff into the water below this rock quarry. And they say none of them were ever seen again that is the the tale um and so the four bully kids are like and we're gonna go down there and we're gonna leave our jack-o'-lanterns as an offering our eight jack-o'-lanterns as offering for each of the eight children that died and there's this rickety old elevator they have to take down to the bottom of the rock quarry and the three of the um kids go first and one stays back with ronda because it's it's a small elevator they're like we'll go down you come and join us uh we'll send the elevator back up. They send the elevator back up.

And as Rhonda and the other kid are going down, they start hearing screaming. And the lights of the jack-o'-lantern start getting extinguished one by one as we hear screaming. And they're totally freaked out. They get to the bottom. and ronda goes out to try to help them and finds like these hooded figures looking like they're eating the intestines of of one of the kids and it's revealed that it's a prank and it's the it's the asshole kids that have like little sausage links and whatever. And they're like making it look really scary. But she's obviously like very freaked out, starts to make a run back to the elevator, trips, hits her head really hard and is like bleeding from her head. her head really hard um and is like bleeding from her head and uh then i can't remember exactly how but she's off on her own again i guess because she's running away from them and they're trying

to find her and be like it's a prank it's a prank like you're overreacting one of the guys is like she hit her head pretty hard like we should get her to a hospital. She's now hiding from them. And as she gets to the water's edge, she sees one of the masks of the kids that we saw on the bus in the flashback. And it comes out of the water. And it is a waterlogged, corpsey kid with... Corpsey! Still with the chains around the waist. And all of them start coming out of the water. All eight of these resurrected kids. And Rhonda runs straight for the elevator. And it's foggy and dark and you can't quite see what's happening. And then one of the kids starts screaming again. The other kids are like, okay, no more time for jokes. We're done doing that now. And

take a while to realize that this is real this time. And Rhonda gets into the elevator first, closes the door. She's completely panicked. And they eventually are running for their lives to the door as well. And they're like, let us in, let us in. This isn't a joke. And she doesn't. And she just presses that up button and she leaves them all there to die. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. They're just like, hell yeah, Rhonda. Oh, my God. But it's more that she's just terrified like she doesn't look like she does it with much she's just trying to get the fuck out of there

yeah wait so what does this have to do with the Anna Paquin this one doesn't that one has we'll be back we'll be back with her yeah so we stepped away from her vignette oh okay okay yeah we're back to her now so after that we go back to her name is laurie um in the movie and we see her on her uh by herself now walking

through kind of a festival it's like a fair type thing where people are all in costume celebrating celebrating and she is looking for a guy and everyone is in um couples and so she's just like looking getting a little frustrated everyone's kissing and holding hands and then there's one joke that really made me laugh she sees a guy dressed as a centaur she like gets a little hopeful look like oh and then from the butt of the centaur comes his girlfriend like lifts it up and they like start kissing it really made me laugh and we see that the three other girls her sister and the friends are at a party in the woods and her sister says i found someone for you we see a man dressed as a baby covered in his own vomit that's like lolling around on the ground i don't know but it's like what like no um like funny joke yeah and she's is like no

like i'm gonna find someone she keeps looking around and we have seen a man dressed as a vampire bite a woman and draw blood and be scary. There was one little glimpse of him earlier. And he's wearing a vampire mask that is similar to one of the masks the kids were wearing in the bus. And so it seems like maybe this could be the kid grown up that somehow had survived um and we see lori see this guy and he looks back at her kind of interested as well we know he's bad she doesn't she just thinks like a handsome vampire-looking man. Oh, man. Which we can't blame her for. Yeah, vampires. So sexy.

And then we see them start to kiss. He bites her. And a little scuffle breaks out. And at the party in the woods, we see her. Lori's dressed as Little Red Riding Hood. And we see the Little Red Riding Hood costume fall from above. And they run up to it like, oh, my God, Lori, Lori, and pull down the hood and reveal it to be Principal Wilkins is the vampire man. Ew. Ew. What?

Okay. And this fall... This man just gets worse and worse. Yeah, he's bad. And he... In his fall, his legs have, you know, snapped and broken and the bones are, like, coming out. We see that. It's very gross. And

Lori comes around the corner saying like she's got this new sense of confidence and it's like yeah like things got a little rough between us so i had to uh um i don't know put him in his place or something like that she says something like very this is a different vibe now and they all start like looking at each other knowingly and they're like all right well let's do it and they all turn into werewolves and start eating all the people and that's what they meant by her first time and that's why she's the runt of the litter oh i get it now it's very funny and silly and uh yeah they just are werewolves under the full moon on halloween we see the little pumpkin head kid watching this and then running off.

And he runs to Brian Cox's house, who is not handing out candy and has all the lights off. He's about to learn a lesson in generosity. Yes. And

we see that now this time is lining up again with, it's gone back in time. Because this is lining up with when Principal Wilkins is burying the body in his yard. We kind of get that. Wait, but he just broke his legs. Yeah. It's back in time. It's. Okay.

Basically, the movie like goes in a loop. It like starts at the end and then goes back to the end again. I see. I see. I see. Okay. Okay. So we see Brian Cox in his house after he gets his dog back and after he's yelling at

Principal Wilkins goes back in his house. He sees little pumpkin head kid running in the distance, giggling. He knows someone's in here. He gets a shotgun out. It's like, whoever's in here, like, get out of here. I mean it. And follows him up to his room. And in Brian Cox's room, there's a jack-o'-lantern and all the walls and the ceiling

it's written in blood trick-or-treat trick-or-treat give me something good to eat over and over and over and he's looking around what the fuck is going on and he's standing right next to his bed and then a little razor blade comes out from under the bed. Slices that Achilles. Oh, I hate that. Oh, no, thank you. Falls onto the ground and gets a look at a little pumpkin head kid's name is Sam. And so Sam attacks him.

And he is eventually able to get his like point the shotgun at him and he shoots him and he shoots him in the head and in the stomach and basically like pumpkin filling comes out. And then his hand like got blown off and we see the little hand crawl back to his body and it presses up against it and all the little pumpkin inside starts pressing back together. And he is able to get the burlap sack off of his head to get a look at what we're dealing with here. And underneath is just like an actual scary little pumpkin head. It's actually really funny looking. we're dealing with here and underneath is just like an actual scary little pumpkin head it's actually really funny looking but um his head is just in the shape of a pumpkin and um he comes back to life again attacks uh brian cox and um i think he he's got that little he gets his pumpkin lollipop out and bites it and so he makes

it into that sharp little weapon that we saw earlier and he is going to stab Brian Cox with it, pulls it up and brings it down and kind of nothing happens and we get for a little moment like like, wait, what just happened?

And we see that it's stabbed into a chocolate bar that fell when, like, as they were fighting, it fell on top of Brian Cox and he like picks it up and takes a little nibble of it. And he's like, and he like looks satisfied by it. And he just leaves. Because the rule is just give me something good to eat. Oh, that's all he wanted. That's all he wanted. Because the rules aren't complicated.

All he wants is a candy bear. What's the big deal? Trick or treat. I'll kill you if you don't give me one. Just give me one. And so he leaves. And spares Brian Cox's life. Phew.

And then we see trick-or-treaters come to Brian Cox's door. He's now learned his lesson and is handing out candy. And he's all bandaged up. Very funny. And it's just like your Achilles heel was sliced like you would not be just like. Ow, ow, ow, ow. I think think you gotta go to the hospital sir yeah you're not gonna just bandage that up and go on with your night um so he hands out some candy closes the door and then walks by a bookshelf in which there is a picture that reveals that he is the bus driver of the Halloween bus massacre.

And there's another knock on the door. And it is the eight resurrected kids from the massacre. And they come in and get their revenge and kill him. And that's the end of the movie. Oh. Oh. And kind of as that's happening, the camera pulls out and we see, you know, pumpkin head kid across the street seeing the Leslie Bibb blow out the pumpkin. And we see the werewolf girls driving by laughing.

Now they're all they've eaten all their chosen men and they're in great great spirits having a great time and we see ronda walking home um so it's just fun the little intersecting stories i had a great time that's fun that's festive it's fun and cute cute it was cute that was so cute it was mostly cute when all those kids died. But it was also cute when Brian Cox had his Achilles cut. Yeah. Yep. By a little pumpkin boy.

Little pumpkin boy. Yeah, that was fun. Wow. What two completely different movies. Yeah. Gotta say. Really different movies. I watched them literally back to back.

I saw Lamb at 440 and was like oh no i don't think that this is a good one for us to do and i was like well i'll just go right into trick or treat trick or treat and yeah an interesting double feature for sure interesting double feature it kind of reminds me of there was a spate in the early 2000s of that kind of uh vibe with movie making where it was just different vignettes. And there's one about New York City. There's one about Valentine's Day. Yes, yes,

yes, yes. Weren't there other ones too? I don't know. I feel like that was a trend for a moment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I personally like, normally don't think that I like that. I like to get more invested in characters over the whole length of the story. But I think for this, it was fun.

I think, yeah, I did enjoy it. Oh, my God. Well, any good voices in this? I don't think so. Excuse me. Brian Cox's ba-da-ba-ba-ba. Oh. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. I'm loving it. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba.

I'm loving it. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. From all of us here. It's turning into just a smooth jazz voice. Smooth jazz. From all of us here at Too Scary to Watch. Ba-da-da-ba-ba. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba.

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