Too Scary; Didn't Watch - URBAN LEGEND with Ego Nwodim

Episode Date: June 8, 2022

Hooded parkas, goth roommates, pop-rocks and a perfect 90's ensemble cast, this week we're recapping URBAN LEGEND with the legendary Ego Nwodim (you might know her from a little show called SNL)! Shout out to the filmmakers of this unforgettable movie!!!! You can watch Urban Legend on HBOMax TRAILER Recap begins @ 33:58 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fm Podcast artwork by @EllaTalkinSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And today's movie is a very fun one. But before we get into it, did anything scary happen to us this week

um okay wait i've actually been really excited to tell you guys about this oh my god i love it so emily you have told us in the past oh my god i'm nervous about meeting with someone who did a past lives reading for you oh my god yes. Yes. I almost texted you the next. I was like, I think she did it, but you, but you hadn't told us. And were you saving it for this moment?

Not like consciously. Oh, okay. Well, I did. Oh my God. Oh my God. So,

all right. Emily, a couple of years ago had a past lives reading and I was like, I'll never do anything like that. But I was very intrigued and I wanted to know all the details. So then one, the thing that really hooked me was you told me that she books at least six months in advance. And I was like, oh, well, then I got to fucking do it.

So back in like November, I booked a session with this woman. She does it over Zoom. with this woman she does it over zoom and i didn't know what to expect but i have to say that it was like way more emotional than i was expecting and i think it has something to do with like meeting a stranger who there's no like baggage there's no expectation there's nothing it's just this person who's like in this moment with you who's like, hi, like, how are you? Like asking you how you're doing. And it felt like made me feel so vulnerable. It's like therapeutic.

I feel like therapy. So therapeutic. I was so immediately emotional. It's also fucking crazy what happens. It's I mean, it's's insane everybody needs to do it so okay the format is she apparently meditates on my energy before she does not apparently yes she is okay okay sorry those are the facts those are the facts then we um pray together in the beginning of the session and then she goes into a light trance

for approximately 25 minutes where she is just speaking to like your team my team and you watch her and she encourages you to record the zoom and to take notes like take notes that she's just sort of like speaking what's coming to her and so and then you'll discuss it after the. Yeah. So you could go. And so and I wasn't I'm so glad she told me to do those things because it was like really a lot of information really fast. You'll be able to look back on those notes.

I'm definitely going to re-listen, re-watch. And there is a lot that was said, but I think the only thing that I was really going to share here, because it's so specific, and she said that one thing that I did in my past life, she was seeing that I taught blind children and I used to know Braille. I taught Braille. My God. Wow. Yes, you did. And I was like, those are the facts. That sounds right to

me. No, no, but I was really with that. It's so funny and it was so outrageous and I was telling Tim's family all about it afterwards and they are so aggressively non believers in that stuff and Tim's mom was just like shitting on it so hard.

I had to go to church. Sorry, it's like that one's hard. I go to church. Sorry. It's like, that one's normal. That one makes sense. I actually said that. I basically said that to Tim afterwards. I was like, you know,

it's not that different. Jesus like just woke up and came out of a cave. Like that's normal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I know the Jesus thing is wild, but the Jesus thing,

the Jesus thing, oh, the Jesus thing. Don't even get me started on the Jesus thing. Yeah. There's a lot to unpack, but like, I just want to thing is wild, but the Jesus thing, the Jesus thing. Oh, the don't even get me started. The Jesus thing. Yeah, there's a lot to unpack. But like, I just want to, you know, encourage everyone to, you know, if you're interested in this type of thing, I did find it very therapeutic. I had a good cry over a few things.

She was just such a lovely human to interact with. I don't know if I necessarily learned that much besides the Braille thing. But that seems worth it, though. It was worth it. It was worth it. It felt I felt good coming out of it. It's like it is therapeutic. It feels spiritual in a way.

It's also just like a very specific, interesting experience to have. Yeah. And connection with a person. Yeah. Yeah. Her name is carolyn joan was it carolyn carolyn swift jones carolyn swift jones check her out guiding circle guiding circle yeah yeah she books up real far in advance so but that is good um and anyway i loved it uh thank you so much emily for bringing that to me. No, thank you. I did a birth chart reading once where I didn't know there would be any past life things spoken

about, but apparently, according to my birth chart, I was a swindler in past lives. Swindler! And they said I needed to work on being a better person. It was a critique? I used to really cheat people out of money a lot. What? They presented it to you as something you have to work on?

Now my life's purpose is giving back. To make up for that. That's right. To make up for all the swindling. Well, you are selfless. I don't know if that's true. Yeah, no, Sammy, you've already done enough. I think you've made amends.

Oh, thanks. Cool. Great. You've made up for it. You've made up for it. Hell yeah. Swindles forgiven. My work is done.

What about you guys? What's up with you? I'm so happy i'm i'm so happy that you did that we had three friends get their readings this week because they they booked like around around the same time everybody had a great experience i i just yeah i just i'm so excited i can't wait to hear more i can't wait to hear more um i will say this week i have had heartburn again oh man i've had heartburn again and i did i booked an appointment with a gastroenterologist i'm fine i was inspired by sammy taking charge of her body proud of you healthcare and i'm like you know what this just

doesn't feel normal so i'm gonna try to do something about it. But I'll say this. The scariest thing that happened to me this week is I got some heartburn medication to take. I got prescribed. It's basically just like, what's the purple pill? Nexium. Nexium. Thank you. It's like that, but I got it prescribed for some reason. And I was looking it up, like, what's the deal with this drug that I'm going to be taking for two weeks. It's pretty run of the mill, but they do say very explicitly, like, you cannot take this long term. Like you cannot. This is a short term solution. It's like, OK, well, this is not good for you then. Far too late in my life this week started thinking about the whole body connection and how, yes, I could be tending to my heartburn.

But am I creating another problem? Oh, maybe. And having a body is really scary. It is terrifying. We have no choice. We don't have a choice. I just like, oh, I like the phrase like every action has an equal and opposite reaction was like going in my brain this week. And I was like, I'm fixing that heartburn. But what else is happening?

But what else is happening? And I've just been like, oh, no. Like I like I, you know, I get a headache and I take Tylenol and it's like, am I destroying my liver? I do like all these things that I just I'm like, I just do. But there's something else happening in my body. And that's going to come calling, you know? What's funny is that stress is the most dangerous thing of all. Absolutely.

I remember once being so stressed and watching this documentary that was like about stress. And it opened with like, stress, the silent killer. Like if you're stressed, your life is going to be shortened by this amount of time and i was like oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck i'm so stressed well i have diagnosed myself um with laryngeal cockle laryngeal cockle reflux that rolls off the tongue which is also known as silent gird oh killer and i was like oh no oh no the silent girl but like of course and so i've been looking up of course things like you know acid reflux gird silent gird laryngeal reflex what do you do what do you do

and and the biggest thing is like stress you're stressed you're stressed yep and like this problem really started for me in the past two years and what has changed none of my habits aside from stress stress stress stress stress stress and it's like we had i was telling joel what's happened in the past two years and i'm like but i don't feel stressful like i'm not i don't i don't feel stressed in a way that i'm like well i gotta turn down this dial and then i won't be like i'm like i don't, I don't feel stressed in a way that I'm like, well, I got to turn down this dial and then I won't be like, I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what. It sounds like you're pretty stressed, Emily. I've been like, anyway.

Yes, I am. I'm really stressed. It just becomes like a base, a base level stress. Right, right. You're not even. And then you're adjusted to it. And then one, the only other solution is to stop drinking alcohol which I will not do

that's not gonna happen yeah that's what I told the doctor who prescribed me the Nexium for these two weeks I was like you know

and I've tried to make lifestyle adjustments which is true I have but I was like but not I'm not gonna stop drinking wine and I'm not gonna stop drinking coffee

so like what else what else what else can I do next it's just like having a body. What the hell? You know?

What the hell, man? Fucking a lot. It's a lot. I'm sorry your heartburn is back. Thank you. That sucks. It's so painful. I hope the NXIVM helps.

Yeah, the prescribed NXIVM. It's doing okay, but is it causing other problems? Probably. Okay, don't go there. And am I stressed about it? Definitely. Stop doing that. One problem at a time.

Yeah, stop doing that. And incorporate some meditation into your daily life, into your daily routine. Because life is stressful. That is true. Sammy, what about you? What about you? I had dinner with a friend this week and we wanted to watch something to make us laugh. We were like, we're in the mood for a good laugh tonight.

Okay. And we put on Gerard Carmichael's HBO special, Rothaniel. You're not going to laugh so much. Which is not so funny. And we were pretty shocked about 15 minutes in. I think we were both crying. I cried. I really cried. And it was just, it's very, very good. I really loved it. and it was just it's very very good I really loved it but it was just this moment of having to really readjust our expectations of like oh okay this is it's not

this isn't like a hilarious stand up comedy special but it's really really good and I highly recommend it I love it I loved it makes me a little more hesitant but because you know I hate to be forced to feel emotion feel feelings yeah I love it. I loved it. You gotta check it out. This makes me a little more hesitant, but because you know, I hate to be forced to feel emotion.

Feel feelings. Yeah. I love feelings. But maybe it would help with the stress. Maybe I need to cry. Crying is good. It releases stress. Sometimes I'll cry for literally three seconds.

I'll go like, because I'm trying not to hold anything in. So if I get any urge, but sometimes it looks so stupid and weird. Not even a tear will come out. But it's just like I'm just trying to release it. Because it's not good to hold stuff in. So it's like if something comes across, I'll just be like.

That's so good. That's really healthy of you. But then I'll laugh because I'm like, that looks so dumb. That's also healthy, I think. That's incredible. You're inspiring me left and right those emotions loose baby just feel i will say so i also just have a few few housekeeping things yes and when i thought about that i have housekeeping things to say in the podcast i was

like we should have a term for that what's like a horror equivalent of housekeeping. And I came up with nothing. I have nothing. I'm drawing a massive blank. Turning on the lights. What? No, like things you should do. Turning on the lights. Checking the basement. Yeah, destroying your basement. Let's destroy the basement really quick.

It's a perfect metaphor and we're not going to try harder. So, first first you guys it's going way back it's been in my notes for a while and i want to get it off my notes so you guys did when i was in florida a bonus episode on our patreon patreon.com slash tsw check it out podcast um where hemi you showed henley some clips from movies we've covered and made her look at them a great idea and not just because i didn't have to do it but i did watch it and this is a video episode Where, Tammy, you showed Henley some clips from movies we've covered and made her look at them. A great idea. And not just because I didn't have to do it. But I did watch it.

Because it's a video episode. And there was a clip from The Ritual, which is a movie we've covered. I just want to say, I wrote down how I would describe the monster. Yeah. And I just feel like I wanted to contribute that. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. And it's a giant deer with husks, but the husks are arms. Oh, like the husks are the arms or where?

A giant deer, but that like tusks. Oh, tusks. That makes more sense than husks. I've looked at this note so many times. I've always seen husks. I've never thought it was wrong until just now saying it. Doesn't sound right. Antlers.

No, the antlers are antlers. No, you mean like tusks or arms. Oh, yes. Yes, that's your spot on. We got there. We got there. Okay, so Ilers are antlers. No, you mean like tusks or arms. Oh, yes. Yes, that's your spot on. We got there. We got there. Okay, so I can delete that for my notes. Okay, and then other thing, really quick.

Swim, swam, swum. Swum is a word. Swum is a word. I was right. Yeah, Sammy was right. It's the past participle. Sammy was right. It's the past participle. Just putting that out there. We really fixated on Swift and Swarm. Thank you very much. I'm a grammatical genius.

She's a genius. Is that grammar? I don't know. It is grammar. Okay, like I said, I'm a grammatical genius. A quick thank you needs to be shouted out to Christy Gross, who sent us some books to our P.O. Box. So thoughtful.

The books personalized to each of us. It's very sweet. It didn't fit in the PO box. You had to like go to the post office and be like, I have the slip for a package. And that is so exciting. To be like, my brain is still like a child where I'm like, oh, if it's bigger, it's better.

It didn't fit in the PO box. It's going to be really special. But it's bigger it's better it's gonna be really special um but it was it didn't disappoint and so really truly that i'm can't they're very thoughtful the books were all so specific to each of our personalities and i mean sammy got a nick cage one so you better believe it i got a sewing book i got a book of essays that sounds really funny yeah i can't wait to read it. Really, really delighted. Really delighted. And the final housekeeping thing.

Sorry. Final. What did we say? Destroying the basement. Final destroying the basement is she's not going to like it, but it's happening. I'm going to say it. I want to shout out Samantha Smart. First of all, on the day this podcast is released to your feeds, it will be her freaking birthday.

It'll be Samantha Smart's birthday. We are so blessed. She's turning 21. She's turning 21 years old. She's not yet an adult and we love her so much. No, I'm actually very excited to be turning 33 because Terti Tree is my favorite term to say. Terti Tree.

Oh my god, we love you so much. Happy birthday. Oh my god, I love you guys so much. We've said it once, we'll say it a million times, but thank you for everything you do for the podcast. Yes. Sammy edits everything. She watches all the goddamn movies. It's hard work. It's a lot of work. Right now, we also are

all sitting together in person, which is an incredible thing. Henley is in town. We're sitting together, we also are all sitting together in person, which is an incredible thing. Henley is in town. We're sitting together in person. We're sitting together in person at the HeadGum Studio because we're a HeadGum podcast now, which is really fucking cool. And we're very excited. And that is almost entirely due to Sammy.

Stop it. We would not be here if it weren't for Sammy. We literally would never have made it this far. Absolutely. You do so much work. You are incredible. You are a gift to every single person who meets you. Every single listener.

Everybody whose ears this is hitting right now. You are so fucking lucky. And I just love you very much I'm very grateful oh I gotta do my one cry that is so nice I love you guys so much I love you

I mean this podcast is so much fucking fun and I feel like it's not just me it It's the three of us. Yes, but you deserve the shout out. I appreciate it. But yeah, it certainly wouldn't be fun if it was just me. So I would listen.

I would still listen. I think a lot of people would. But that's you guys are here to listen to us talk about a movie. And so let's talk about that movie. This week, we have a movie that I somehow had never heard of. Wait, me either. I don't know how. You know, it's very interesting how movies could have ever just slipped your radar.

I feel like in the 90s, it was like if you didn't watch TV at the time frame that that trailer played, you didn't know what happened. Oh, I disagree. I feel like I knew about every fucking movie that came out in the 90s. That's why I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I mean, you just weren't watching TV in the whatever 10 to 11 p.m. hour when they played this trailer. I guess. Yeah, I don't know.

Did you know about this movie? I didn't know about it, but I actually hadn't seen it. This was my first watch. OK, and I love how much we're teasing not even saying the movie. Tell us what it is and what it isn't. The movie is Urban Legend. It came out in 1998. It's directed by Jamie Blanks, written by Silvio Horta, starring, get this, Jared Leto,

Alicia Witt, Rebecca Gayhart, jackson amazing loretta divine tara reed holy shit michael rosenbaum robert england and it's currently streaming on hbo max so anybody can anybody with hbo max can get on it and watch this movie. I can't wait to hear about it. Tara Reid, Joshua Jackson. I mean, this is the 90s. We famously don't care for Jared Leto. Famously. People are talking about it. We're known for it.

But I can't wait to hear about it and I'm so thrilled we have a guest joining us to talk about this movie this week. Comedian, actor from a program you might know of, Saturday Night Live. It's Ego Nwoda. Hi. Hi, Ego.

Hi, Ego. What's going on? What's going on? Things are great. We're all doing great. Yes, everyone's so happy. I feel, okay, I have to tell everyone the N in my last name is silent, but it's okay because every,

you know that, Emily, but it's okay. I know that, Ego. It's not offensive. No, I know, I'm not offended because there's people who know that also, who I'm close to, but you read it and then you just say it. But I'm only saying this right now

because if I don't, someone's going to listen and go, I can't believe she just didn't correct them. So I love this. I go, I know. I know. I'm fine. I'm fine. It's your name.

It should be said. This is a very important lesson in like, we all need to be speaking up for ourselves. We all need to be speaking up for ourselves we all need to be speaking up for ourselves but guys i'm so excited to be here and talk spooky shit with you speaking of spooky shit did anything scary happen to you this week okay i was thinking about that question and i think the scariest thing that happened was I went to Pilates for maybe the third time ever in my life. It's having a moment. Okay. And the two women on either side of me, one of them had to be recovering from COVID and the other one for sure had it.

I know that. I don't know if we're supposed to talk about COVID if that's too dark and scary. I don't know if we're supposed to talk about COVID if that's too dark and scary, but I don't know how we're supposed to not. I was like, should I tell this one? But that's the spookiest thing. But then I was like, I've had it. And so I felt kind of I'm like, and I'm still immune. I'm still immune. Yeah, so it's fine. But I'm like, I know that COVID cough anyway. I was gonna say what tipped you off? Was it the rattly, rattly, raspy cough? It was the raspy, incessant, obviously couldn't help herself cough.

And both maskless. And I was like, this is absolutely beautiful. There's nothing I hate more than being trapped in an exercise class in any context. In any context. Also spooky. When you're like eyeing the clock and you're like, God damn it, there's 35 more minutes. I hate it when I can get me out of here. They absolutely can never show me a clock because if I know how much longer I have there,

there's nothing worse. Oh, I need to be looking at a clock constantly. Okay. I'm with Emily in that I can't, I can't know how much time. So I haven't been to an exercise class. It's been like, I think I went to one last month, but before that it had been years and years. But if I train with someone and they're like, all right, just 15 more seconds. And I'm like, and I'm done.

I didn't need to know that. I thought it was something wrong with me, but okay, Emily, you get it. I was like, maybe. No, same. I'm like, don't tell me. Surprise me. Yes. Absolutely surprise me.

Because I, yeah, my brain goes, oh, it's this much longer? Because also, I don't know what 15 seconds feels like, actually. Right. I never know what time it is. I don't know what 15 seconds feels like, actually. I never know what time it is. I don't know how long things last. But if you tell me a number, all of a sudden I'm like, well, that's not happening. It doesn't truly. I feel you on this because it doesn't matter.

Like if you say to me 15 seconds or like you only have five more of these to do. I'm like, well, that's just my body's like, no, no, we can't do any more. I don't like that you told me, but I want to be surprised as well. Interesting. It's like, don't set the expectation. Like, please do not remove that. It's too much pressure. And it also just makes me feel like responsible for something that I don't want to be managing right now. Correct. I completely get that. Make me feel like I have to do this forever so I can just come to terms with it and just keep pushing through. But if you tell me I get to stop and anyway, you get it, you get it. But that was my spook. My weekly spook was those COVID-y. I

was like, the lady on my left for sure recovered because that was the post-COVID cough. It's a different cough. Yeah. The one to my right. I was like, mama, you got it. And I think, you know, you do. Yeah. But there's people I've been in multiple conversations also this week with people who have been like, I, yeah, or I had it and I like, I, but I didn't test because, or I knew tests were coming back negative, but I knew I had it, but I was like, well, they're coming back negative. Oh no. Vectors of disease, these people.

I think we're in a different part of the pandemic now. It's we really are. No, we absolutely are. Loose. We fully, yeah. Because now, like, I just had COVID. So did Henley just had COVID. You know, we're immune now.

But, yeah, I think people are just sort of like, oh, yeah, I mean. It's inevitable. We're getting it, giving it to everybody. Like, it's just, people just sort of, it became so common in the past couple weeks, at least in like, like I had never had it. Like, it was people who had like never had it. All of a sudden, they're like, oh, yeah, no, everybody has it. And so I think all of us just went, okay. Yeah, it's fine.

It's fine. But anyway, spooky. Spooky. Spooky up there. Hope those ladies are doing okay. Speaking of spooky things, I go, how do you feel about horror movies generally? Do you like them? Do you hate them? Do you love them?

I like them. I like them. I actually would say that I love them, but I don't watch them enough. Also, just my attention span is one of the worst things on the planet, so I don't think I could sit through. I draw the line, at spirits because I believe in spirits. And so I don't

do any, no exorcism movies for me ever in a million years, because I feel like two through the movie, I'm like, the spirit will take residence in your home. It's not a bad idea. It's inviting the spirit into your home. So because I believe in spirits and stuff, I'm like, I can't watch an exorcism movie, but I like everything else. I like when it's inviting the spirit into your home. So because I believe in spirits and stuff, I'm like, I can't watch an exorcism movie. But I like everything else. I like when it's like strangers. Well, I don't want to ruin it. Am I allowed to ruin other movies?

You're allowed to ruin it. That's sort of the whole deal. Okay, okay, okay. You're right. You're right. Strangers where it's like real killers. And I'm like, I'm into that sort of thing. Yeah, this is great because this is how I feel and Henley always thinks it's a little crazy

because killers are the real thing and I'm like no I'm more scared of demons and ghosts so she's like but those aren't but those aren't real I don't believe in that I believe in them I believe the demons and ghosts I don't know man we can't say that they're not real I don't know if I believe it or not but I know that I'm not going to mess with it.

Right? Like, what's the harm in respecting it? I don't know if I believe in that, but I respect that. What's the harm in respecting it? I feel like that's such a safe bet, though, just to be like, I don't know, but I'm going to respect. And that's the thing. I actually don't even know that, like, okay, I watched an exorcism movie. Now a ghost resides in my home. But because'm like possible no thank you I'm like why risk it why

risk it why risk it but I feel like yeah I this is part of why I like the urban urban legend I know you guys said you hadn't heard of it and i feel like other people had not heard of it but i'm like this was like the scary movie to me in my adolescence it was like the one to me and i must have been living in an island yeah but also it's like these are big actors at the time who were in like how did like especially i feel like we've talked a lot about we've done a lot of like horror of the late 90s that i'm like, well, yeah, I absolutely knew of these. How did this, how did this one slip in? Yeah, I don't know. It just, well, that's what I was like, these are really big actors. And I assumed you knew the movie when I told you that's the one that I wanted to do. And it was fully, like when you're like, you can let me know sooner to the date. And I was like, no, I know what movie. it's urban legend yeah urban legend thank you so much

and I was like because I wanted to revisit it because I also had this thing in my head so this was perfect because I was like was that movie scary or was I just too young to be watching it and now I'm like it's actually kind of funny yeah it's funny I had fun to see there was a moment in it just flashing forward you didn't ask for this but where Joshua Jackson's in it and he gets in the car and the Dawson's Creek theme song

comes on and I was like oh little nugget I know it was amazing now that's fun that is filmmaking they're like you get it we're all we're stars you know my show i was like that okay we love that little nugget and then the tear read of it i was watching being like what happened to her yeah what did i feel like such a star and then alicia witt who who I was not familiar with Alicia's work,

but I'm like, and what happened to her? I started to just wonder. I was like, well, Jared went on to become huge. Joshua Jackson's pretty huge deal. But anyway, that's what I was watching doing that. Absolutely not scared to be clear here. My mind was more like, oh, this is so cool. Where are they now?

That's watching a movie at this point in our lives. We're like, huh, this is so cool. Where are they now? Yes. Matt's watching a movie at this point in her life so we're like, oh, are they doing well in life? Like, what,

you know? Holy, yes. I was like, Alicia, did she like quit acting or like, I wonder what her choice is.

Yes. What's she up to? Tara Reid still acts though. She did those Sharknado movies, right? Oh, yeah. Sharknado.

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So she's doing good. So she's doing yeah sharknado yeah yep yeah so she's doing good so she's doing great she's doing really good she's amazing okay okay i love to hear that i love to hear that so i got some stats and some trivia this has a 23 on rotten tomatoes which is why i wanted to watch another part of why i wanted to watch it was because i think like a year and a half ago i looked it up and saw that the rotten tomatoes was so low,

but I was like, I remember thinking this was scary. It does seem a little unfairly low. I think people were so mad that it was, I don't even think it's copying scream too much, but that's like a complaint that some people had. And so I feel like it got some backlash of like, you're just copying scream,

but it's like scream was great. I want more things like it got some backlash of like, you're just copying Scream. But it's like Scream was great. I want more things like Scream. Everything copies everything. Yeah. Yes. Literally nothing new under the sun. But okay. Okay.

I'm sorry. You were. Okay. We got a 35 on Metacritic and a 5.6 on IMDb. Rare for IMDb to be the highest of the rating. I know. The budget was 14 million. It made 72.5 million. Oh, great uh and we have some casting what ifs

we love these um for the main role of natalie uh it was turned down by reese witherspoon jennifer love hewitt and melissa joan hart wow you know nothing evokes like casting. What ifs are the perfect way to understand a moment in time. Right, right, right. Because those three names would never be together in 2022. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, never. That's a 1998 time capsule right there. Melissa Joan Hart, another one that I'm like, what's she up to now? Yes, I was having it. Immediately, I'm like, what's she doing? I hope she's well. I hope she's well, I do.

Sarah Michelle Gellar accepted the role of Sasha, which eventually went to Tara Reid, but had to back out due to scheduling conflicts with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Joshua Jackson and Tara Reid both shot scenes in cruel intentions shortly before production started on urban legend and so joshua jackson kept his hair

blonde just in case he was needed to return for like pickups for cruel intentions so his hair is platinum blonde in this picture him blonde that makes i'm gonna have to look it up it's fun it's crazy you're gonna want to see it i'm gonna want to see it and jared leto has disowned this film and hates it jared you got other things you gotta work on this isn't the biggest thing are you kidding me i know it just is so funny disowned it disowned him being like, okay, yes, I've done some bad things in my life. And it's the movie Urban Legend. That's the only thing I regret. That's where I draw the line is Urban Legend. And that's my only regret.

I want to ask him about that. I don't have access to him. Ask him. Ask him, please. I don't understand. I get it. It's kind of copying Scream. so upset? I don't understand. I get it. It's kind of copying Scream. But I'm like, all those people passing on it.

I wonder. I mean, it wouldn't have changed anyone's career, to be clear. Because I guess. Nobody saw it, I guess. No one saw it. It made a good amount of money. Yeah. But I'm like, why the deep, deep hate for this film?

I don't understand. I definitely don't I haven't seen it but it seems like you're drawing more attention to it by disowning it yeah like okay now you have to watch this um yeah I watched and was like I wonder if I could get I looked up the director after I watched like I wonder if I could get him to direct a short if I do. I love that idea. But it's also just, it's like, why? So I'm contacting you because of the movie Urban Legend and I would like for you to

direct something for me. It's been 24 years and I would like to work with you. Yeah, and he's like, okay, well, you have bad taste. You shouldn't be contacting me for that. And then this last piece of trivia just made me laugh. It's like one of those pieces of trivia that's not really trivia. Yeah. OK, great. Tosh is a character and it was originally conceived as a much bitchier character.

Oh, thank you. OK. Just like when something like that is thrown in it's like why is that in here why did we put that also wow the name tosh short for anything no it's t-o-s-h by the way not even tasha just talk to you like like josh uh-huh yes interesting much bitchier. Okay. So just keep that in mind as we're recapping. She could have been more of a bitch.

Could have been bitchier. Okay. I'm going to keep that in mind. I'm going to keep that in mind. Okay. Wow. That's all the trivia I got. So shall we get into recapping this film?

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And it's pouring rain and it's, you know, spooky times. And she listening to music, enjoying her life, pouring rain, she's running out of gas, stops at a scary gas station. So, you know, kind of in the middle of nowhere, real dark. She tries to use the pump, I believe herself, and it doesn't work. So then the gas station attendant, she needs his help he comes out and he's like kind of scary hair real like greasy and clearly doesn't have much of a social life and he like tries to help her uh with the pump and when he's back there well okay so he's trying to help her with the book and i want to do this justice so it's not like

for whatever reason he like he sees something and he's like he's like fuck it's not it's not working and so he goes in and gets her he takes her credit card from her goes in to try to swipe her card to pay for the cat the gas and then comes out again and he like kind of scares her and he's like at her window and she kind of jumps a little bit. He's like your card. It's not working. And remember, he's like, just it's pouring rain. The man doesn't have an umbrella. And so now he's drenched and she's like kind of scary. And she's like, weird. This guy needs my help with the card. Like the credit card company is on the phone right now. And so she gets out of the car. She's a little scared.

He gets her into the gas station locks the door behind her she picks up the phone and there's no one on the line she's like hello hello there's no one on the line and so he and then she's like there's no one here realizes he's locked her in and he's like trying to talk to her she jumped basically breaks out of the gas station like bust the window open and like gets herself out of there he also like has a stutter so as as he's like trying to as he's trying to talk to her he like crucial he's like clearly stressed about something but he's like can't get his words out he can't get his words out yes so she's like he's like trying to he's trying to communicate with her

but it's like scary it's like this man has lied to me. So she gets out, she gets in her car, pulls away and he like runs after her and she peels out of there and he can't get it out. Cause he has a stutter. But like, as she's pulling away, she's out of frame. He's like, there's someone in your back seat. Yeah. Let me tell you what, I remember this from my youth and i remember like that's amazing that's amazing you're like one day i will work with this director i remember this urban legend too like even though i hadn't seen this movie i had there'd be somebody in your back i had heard this story which is kind of i get in my car and I lock the doors oh my god yes and I'll never

stay in my car parked especially at night once I've locked you've got to get out of there fast we don't want to get out I'm gonna up to the window there also could be someone under the car you know so you're oh I remember when that was a big fear I remember there was a moment where yeah like I would like get into my car really fast so that if there was someone under it, they couldn't slice my ankles. Oh, yeah. I don't think that happened to anybody. A common fear. It did happen in this movie,

but not this moment. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Do I know this movie? You've lived this. I've lived it. So, basically, the person in the back seat Do I know this movie? You've lived this. I've lived it. I've lived it. Okay.

So she, so basically the person in the backseat has an ax. You know, it's over for her. It's over for her, you know, in short. So now we get, like, we cut to this college. And basically there's a lot of, like, drama around, like, okay, she ended up dead. You know, and that was, like, an urban legend. And and people be like that was like that's that's what that was and so they're like having it's like in the student union which i don't remember my like college having one of these which was also just kind of goofy to me like the place where everyone was just hanging out

um oh yeah and it was like anyway this group of friends are talking about and they're like you know there's like some non-believers in the group. Like, yeah, whatever. I don't believe in urban legends. It's fine. Joshua Jackson's character, big prankster, troublesome sort of troublemaker kind of guy. Really inappropriate jokes coming from him, by the way, that did not, I feel like, age totally well, I feel. He was one of those.

Just that annoying, that trope. I then remember them going to class, all of them, and their professor now was talking to them about urban legends. Yeah, and this is Professor Wexler, who is played by Robert Englund, who is Freddy Krueger himself. Oh, that's fun. You know, I didn't make that connection. I just recognized his name from us introducing that movie and so I knew his name from that.

When it popped up in the credits, I was like, who is he in this? I wouldn't have recognized him. Sure, Freddy's got his own thing going on. He has a lot of makeup on. This is why I think people need to put some respect on this film's name. There's little nuggets. There's all these little nuggets. That's right. They put a lot of care

into this movie. Come on. Anyway, so he's like doing this. He's doing a lecture on urban legends. And the one that comes up is one about pop rocks. Like what happens to, they're like, he's like, do you know the one about pop rocks

and having pop rocks with soda and i think people are like we kind of know that one but yeah right it's bullshit or whatever he calls up rebecca gayheart's character brenda to do the he's like oh if it's an urban legend like do it and he gives her pop rocks. Also sorry if this is nitpicky, would we call like putting, what happens when you put pop rocks in coke, would we call that an urban legend? That feels like it's giving that far too much gravitas. Yeah, that's like an 8th grade science

experiment. It's an anecdote at best. Yeah, anecdote at best. Well, it's something that like anyone could test for themselves, whereas most urban legends are not. Anyway, okay. Don't follow those rules. The urban legend is that someone did it

and died. So then they're like, oh, no one wants to really test it because it's like why did I die? But then you really think about it. Just use your brain a little bit. You're like, that's not possible. Which, by the way, pause. are you guys familiar

with the like taking a teaspoon of like cinnamon and like trying to swallow a teaspoon of cinnamon and you just cough and cough yeah that it like can't be done right it can't be done but I was so sure in eighth grade it could be done and someone offered me five dollars and I would do all kinds of things oh my god a little bit of money in eighth grade. So I was on the bus. Someone asked me to do that. And I was like, yeah, well, duh. Take the teaspoon and swallow cinnamon, whatever.

They just have a thing of cinnamon to give to you? It was this weird thing where I guess that particular week of school, it was like the talk of the week. It was hot that week. Remember school? You remember school? Oh, yeah. We're desperate for any sort of engagement. school it was like the talk it was hot that week remember school you remember school oh yeah we're desperate for any sort of engagement and so anyway i did do it you can't swallow it you can't

possibly and i was like oh i'm going to choke and so someone had water for me but it was it was actually bad so i get the fear on the pop rocks thing i'm like that could be you that could be you the milk thing is real too, right? You can't drink a gallon of milk in one sitting. I had a friend try it and he threw up a lot. You'll throw up? You can't do it. Also, that sounds so disgusting.

It sounds awful. It sounds truly awful. There's probably a lot of things that if you tried to have a gallon of it, you can't. Maybe it's not specific to milk, but... Cow's milk. Oh, gallon. Okay, so he brings it. Point is, he calls

Rebecca Garrett's character up, and then I feel like what ends up, because Joshua Jackson is being some sort of smartass of some sort, rolling his eyes, the professor's like like you come up and do it then or like he's like I'll fucking do it and the professor gives him the pop rocks and the soda

he starts like basically convulsing and like foaming at the mouth and like everyone's like oh shit our classmate just died in front of us and he like I remember being like he's really selling this right now because i had a moment where i was like i know i've seen this before surely he's not dying right now but then i was

like does he die is that how this movie goes he did he was he was just acting his little ass off so anyway then it was like psych just kidding prank um and everyone's kind of mad at him whatever um and then did i did I skip anything crucial in this lecture? No, I think that's it. And just the other thing before this is that we meet so Natalie is kind of our main character and we meet her

roommate, Tosh. Tosh! I should say that. I forgot about Tosh. Tosh was already was super bitchy. Was like incredibly bitchy to the point where we were watching being like, what is her problem? Her bitchier is just, I don't even know what that would be.

She absolutely sucked. Unclear why. It was also so unclear why. And she was goth or whatever. I forgot why and she was goth or whatever i forgot like she was goth and it was like so she's bitchy because she's goth there was just like no explanation for why she was so angry there was no clear reasoning it just wasn't tracking i will say big plot hole there for me um i'm glad they brought the one note factor down. Yes, exactly. Oh, yeah. So we meet Tosh and Tosh is basically like a BDSM queen or whatever and like likes to like have rough sex, but they share a room. And so she is angry anytime Natalie interrupts or like basically she's like, fuck off when I'm having sex and I'm having my loud rough sex like you need to like not turn the light on and disrupt it you need to just like go to your side of the room and like

fucking put headphones on this is important college wow like yes it's so mean to her about it so so mean to her about it and, am I not mistaken that at some point, is this the Joshua? I need help here. It's just like chaos after. It's chaos. It's more chaos. But I know what happened. Okay, so first it's just like the news of the first girl's

death, the gas station death. People on campus learn about that. And the dean and the campus security guards are like trying to play it down because they don't want the bad press or whatever. And they're like, oh, no, it's like totally fine. Nobody worry about that. They don't want the bad press?

I don't know. Yeah, it was like, let's not talk about that. Are they affiliated with this ax man? Yeah, then people won't come to this school. So just who cares? Oh, an important thing that we didn't talk about, I guess, people won't come to this school so just who cares oh an important thing that we didn't talk about i guess is in that first first scene or second scene when they're in the like uh student room they talk about the urban legend of the stanley hall massacre which oh yes which is

something that happened at their call on their college campus years ago where someone just like went door to door and killed people yeah and then but they don't know if it happened for sure and yeah that's when they're like that's urban legend it's all urban and like and we should note that that like stanley hall is now they didn't demolish it it's just abandoned on campus by the way yeah it's an abandoned dorm on i know which like certainly lends more credibility to the fact that it happened. That would make me think something bad happened. Something did happen there, right. Something did happen there.

It's so funny because in my dorm, my freshman year, I lived in a building that apparently recently flooded at USC and they're demolishing it. Like it like flooded years ago, but they fixed it or something. Now they're just like demolishing it. So I'm like, axe murderer goes through, kills a bunch of students. They're like, let's just abandon this building. Leave it. We'll just shutter it. We don't need the real estate.

We don't need to turn that into anything else. Just leave it. Certainly college students won't go in there and cause trouble. Just leave it. We don't need the real estate. We don't need to turn that into anything else. Just leave it. Just leave it. College students won't go in there and cause trouble. Just leave it. So basically then Natalie, if I remember correctly, like, so they're like, no bad press.

Everyone's like, calm down. She's really spooked about it. Main character. She's just like, something is afoot. I think we should be more concerned. then i i don't remember exactly how they got to the point where josh jackson's character his name is damon which i do think is another little nugget because that actually that name means darkness so i'm just i don't know again filmmakers shout out to that to the filmmakers um so she uh natalie after finding out about this murder goes to old yearbooks in her room and we the audience find out she knew michelle is the person who was killed in the first scene

but she doesn't tell anybody that she knows her but yes yes she's more upset about it because she knew her and she's for some reason keeping that to herself and then damon comes in while she's her and she's for some reason keeping that to herself and then damon comes in while she's looking at the yearbooks and looking really upset and he is like i can be you know a nice guy yes yes and he did that thing he was he did this thing like let's go let's go on a ride get your mind off of this and like i can be i know i'm a prankster frat boy whatever but like yeah i can be nice and i can be a friend let's you know let's go you gotta stop thinking about all this crazy stuff and then he basically was like he like drives her to this it's not even a lookout but it does feel like a thing from movies in the 90s like let's drive to the middle of the woods and like it's again there's no view we're

just like in the woods in my car why but then But then he like tries to, this is the thing, he tries to like make out with her. He's like, alright, you need a shoulder to cry on. I could be a nice guy. Just get in my car, go to the middle of nowhere. Yeah, we would just, we would we truly would hate this man.

As we should, as rightfully so. So, he, she rejects him. He's okay fucking whatever he gets out of the car and he's like all right we'll have to pee we're gonna go home now because like basically didn't get what i want you didn't put it's so wild he's bad man he's like i'm gonna go pee real fast so he goes to pee he's in the woods and someone like you know okay also you know those hooded parkas with the fur, the faux fur or whatever, big key

in the movie, so we see like a person in a hooded parka he gets attacked and I'm trying to they like came from behind him I feel like and like dragged him off or something while he was peeing and now Natalie's in the car just waiting for him to be finished

peeing. And then this person somehow hangs Joshua Jackson's character from a tree. And she's in the car. And I can't remember what tipped her off to, like, something. It's his little, like, foot sounds on the ceiling. On the top of the roof. Okay. And it's not the assailant's feet.

Is it Joshua Jackson? It's Joshua Jackson's feet. Okay. So he's hanging he's hanging he's like hanging from a tree above the car his feet are like tapping the car okay oh my god oh my god he's still alive he's like being hung to yes exactly and the car is like what's stopping him from why would this person hang him right over the car because you'll see it's like a little game. It's part of the plans. Another urban legend. So she like, you see the spooky person in the

parka. She sees them or something and then is like, okay, I gotta get the fuck out of here. So she's like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. So like starts to pull away, like drive, but she realizes she's stuck. So then she's stuck so then she like so then they like come towards her I remember this scene being like this is so

good I was like this is incredible I was like wow they've done it again another perfect scene I'm just saying with some respect okay so this person is like coming towards her and she's like all right fuck so now she reverses really hard because she kind of gets stuck when she tries to drive off like kind of regular she gets stuck she reverses really hard and the person's

like okay cool now they're basically coming towards her again and what she does is like all right basically cranks it and then they cut to like Joshua Jackson above like Natalie don't start the car oh my god and but she like and you're like oh maybe she heard him maybe like maybe not

she's struggling and then she like peels out and yeah Joshua Jackson is dead he's dead! Oh, shit! He's dead. But she goes back to campus, like, obviously very shaken up. And everyone

is basically like, he's a prankster. That didn't really happen. He, like, went to... He went away for the... Like, everyone has every excuse under the sun as to why he's not dead and that was just a prank. Because they go back and his body's gone yeah there's like no evidence of it the scene has been wiped and so they're all like uh he was just pranking you yeah that's a complicated prank extremely complicated so complicated everyone's like it's not it's not real then

they so basically like gosh it's is it rebecca gay or it's no no it's not real. Then they, so basically like, gosh, it's, is it Rebecca Gayhart's kid? No, no, it's Tara Reid and her boyfriend. They're like, you're fine. Chill out again. He's a prankster. He'll be back. Whatever. Then if I remember correctly, she's like, all right, I do need to calm down.

Maybe I'm, you know, wiling out and I'm on edge because of that earlier murder. And goes back to her room, right? If I'm not not mistaken this is where she's like yeah okay yep so so she goes back to her room and she hears tosh having what sounds like really oh oh no i should set this scene up better too so we go back because this i think they did such a great job so we go back Tosh is on like aim you remember aim yeah it's on some version of aim and it's basically like kind of progressive for the time by the way I'm like that she's like soliciting sex on like aim if in a real way

and it's like a college student and has no shame about it I'm here for her so she's basically like soliciting sex with a new person and she's like what room are you in and they're like oh do you like whatever rough play or whatever she's like yeah and then they're like what room she's like what room are you in but then she goes to like get herself more gothified in the bathroom comes back to her computer and sees that they said their answer to the question is your room and And so then she gets, she's like, what? Gets attacked. She's in bed getting strangled. Okay. Natalie

comes home. The light is on. She's like getting strangled and is like, you know, you don't know you're getting strangled for sex, right? She's not supposed to disturb and she's not supposed to disturb. So she turns the light off, puts her big headphones on and lays down in her bed

all while her roommate is being murdered wait I really should have seen this coming this was set up so beautifully in the beginning perfect set up and pay up so now Tosh is

dead and Natalie is so spooked. And I think at this point it's incredibly justified. But people still continue to try to talk her down. Yeah, even though on the wall the killer has written in blood, aren't you glad you didn't turn on the light? Oh my God. I forgot about that.

Very clearly a crime scene. And again, they're all like, oh, a tragic suicide, a tragic suicide. That's an incredibly long message for the killer to write. Are you glad you didn't turn on the light? We took the time to write that out? It's so much, not one

word, but like an introspective question from you. Something to sit with and reflect on. And so, yeah, Natalie basically is like, okay, I'm, I'm, I'm in charge of this investigation because nobody is taking this seriously. So she gets her little urban legend book out of the library.

And I think she kind of teams up with Paul, right? Jared Leto's character. Yes. Cause he's like a journalist on campus. We should say who is like, he also believes something is afoot. And it's like, yeah, I want I, you know, I want to do the deep dive journalism thing here. And I'm not buying that. So I'm trying to make connections here and figure out exactly what's going on on campus. And then at the same time, again, the Dean is like bad press. Loretta Devine character is like a security guard on campus who happens to be armed that's important for later and so happens to be armed and is like uh goes to the dean and is like this student is

missing and it's it's josh jackson's character damon and it's like the student has been missing have you heard about that and he's like yes yes but the kid's probably gone off it's a long weekend and he's probably gone somewhere for the weekend. Like, it's fine. Let's really just keep everything. Let's try to keep everything cool and calm and collected around here. So she, Loretta Devine's character is like, something's off. She also believes something's off.

She's also like practicing with her little, she like watches, what is she watching all the time? Pam Greer. Pam Greer, Pam Greer. Yep. practicing with her little piss she like watches what is she watching all the time pam grier pam grier yeah so she's like taken by pam grier and like spends a lot of time admiring and like practicing shooting nothing um you know doing her little good stance anyway so she she like approaches the profess the dean by in his car in the parking garage and is like it's a bad weekend things have been afoot around here and he's like again chill the garage. And it's like, it's a bad weekend. Things have been afoot around here. And he's like, again, chill the fuck out. And it's kind of dismissive and a dick to her

in this moment, right? So then she was like, were you scared when I came up to you? And he's like, no, no, no. And he tried to be cool because he was a little spooked. He was playing it cooler than he was actually feeling. So anyway, she leaves that conversation and he hears something. And he's like, huh, what the hell is that?

As he's trying to get in his car, kind of looks around. He goes to get in his car quickly and his Achilles tendons get slashed from underneath. This somehow embedded itself into my brain. You've seen it. But I swear to God, I was like, well, that could happen. I hate the Achilles when When they get the Achilles, it's bad. Yeah, slashed them. The man can't walk,

but now he's like on the ground, and the killer gets in his car, the dean's car, and is like, he's gonna run you over. And I kept yelling, you need to crawl to the side. Yeah, they never do a zigzag or anything.

Zigzag. You're going in a straight line. And then I was like, or get really flat. I was like, get really flat. My God. So flat he can't drive over you. So funny. Zigzag.

God damn it. I was like fucking zigzag. Like, so anyway, he was struggling and lost. And then I don't, I'm trying to figure out, maybe you can help me with this, how he got to the pokey. I don't remember really either the mechanics of it, but just tell us how it

ends. Okay, okay, okay. So what happens is he's crawling, driver is like, basically fuck you, drives over him, and drives him through those severe tire damage warnings that the spikes professor gets driven over on one of those. On one of those. Oh, that's pretty gnarly death. That's bad.

And you see it, you see the whole thing. Yeah. There are some scenes where they don't really show too much, but I feel like this one was one of the more gruesome because I feel like we saw this. But, you know, sometimes as we talked about before, you just like fill things in with your head. So I can't actually say for sure. Maybe you don't. And I just. Those tire things are like one of the most like violent things we have in our society. You make such a good point. Like, and i'm like also people don't reverse yeah you're doing a wrong entrance or go in a wrong entrance it's not necessary it's incredibly dramatic it seems extreme it's way too dramatic and like speaking of filling

things in in your head i feel like when you look at one you're just like that could do bad things whenever i look at it i'm like it does the same thing i go like well now i feel like i'm gonna reverse even though i'm not you know when like something comes it always makes you feel like i'm like well i'm gonna accidentally do it just because you put it there and now i know i can't they're not necessary every time i see one of those they make you feel on edge throw my car in the opposite direction for no reason. Just drive over. Okay, excellent kill. He gets murdered.

Now, Natalie's BFF is Rebecca Gayheart, whose name I'm forgetting. Brenda. Brenda in the movie, who's been her common presence. Brenda's going going for a swim now. And Natalie is seeing this like from upstairs in the, again, a different student center building.

So there's glass. And she's seeing a person in a parka, just like she saw Damon get murdered. A person in a parka is approaching Brenda, who's in the water, you know, swimming unsuspectingly. And she like freaks out and like breaks the glass. Like it's like, Brenda, Brenda, Brenda, someone's coming for you. Like breaks the glass that she's looking over onto the pool on with a chair. Cause she's like, I'm going to save my friend. My friend's not going to get murdered in front of me by this parka killer.

And then it was like another swimmer who was like trying to just say hi to Brenda, but for whatever reason, showed up in a parka. Well, to be fair, a lot of people had those jackets. Yeah, it was like, but it's like for the indoor swim. And it's like,

is there a reason you're still wearing the parka at the pool? I also, in this scene, just when it like started, like I saw the pool, I was like, my head went to the urban legend of oh we're going to get the one where your

intestines get sucked out through your butt do you guys know that one? no what the hell is that? because that's one that I've always been scared of wait how do your intestines get sucked out through your butt? how does it happen? okay I

don't know if it's possible but this is just an urban legend that if you sit on the pool filter, someone can push you down there, you can get stuck on it, and your intestines come out your butt. I think you can get stuck on it, but I don't think it will pull anything out from the inside of your body. Only one way to find out.

I kind of want to try. It feels like it would do one of the... You know people get, like, coloscopies to like clean out there i'm like that yeah yeah yeah a free version with a high price if you're wrong about one thing but if you're right so when she's like she has this freak out and then she has to explain to brenda like all right let me explain to you why I'm so on edge. Basically, I know Michelle who was murdered, like where all the buzz was happening at the top of the movie. I actually know her. What happened is another urban legend. She she was kind of wild and driving down the road one day.

Michelle is my friend. I was with her driving down the road kind of crazy one day. She flashed. She had no she didn't have her lights on someone flashed i do know this urban legend someone flashed their lights at them to be like turn your your headlights are off someone coming the opposite direction and then she was like let's fuck with him and like chased him down like did a quick u-turn and chased this man down this windy road and he like crashed because he was trying to get away now from this erratic driver who was following him and so natalie is telling brenda this and he died and he died yeah okay and um natalie's like yeah he was our age too and um and it was just really sad and i never got over that and it's just kind of crazy that this thing then just like happened to her um and like brenda's

listening and it's like listen that's wild that that happened. That really sucks. But like, you got to chill out. Thanks for giving me context. Let's get your mind off of this thing. We want to go to, let's go to a party. I'm interested in this guy, Paul, who happens to be Jared Leto. Who's the reporter. She's like, I want to like seal the deal with Paul. They get to the party hosted by Tara Reed and Tara's boyfriend, whose name I am forgetting i think okay parker okay great and um so they uh get to that party and they're like mine's off that whole

thing now jared's character is like talking to again because he's like i'm going to crack the case of what's going on around campus a lot of weird shit going on I just know something's afoot and so they're talking about it and he's like talking really close to her face and I was like he's gonna kiss her trope he's gonna kiss her and Brenda's gonna see it and she's gonna be pissed and that is what happened and um she sees it and she was like wow Natalie I guess you don't waste any time and then she's like it's not what it looks like whatever but it was it was it is what it looks like it usually is when people say that

yeah exactly so the reporter guy is like I am going to we need to like end this party because like there's another urban legend I kind of if I'm being honest didn't understand what his inkling of like this party has to end something like something's up. I didn't get that.

I didn't get where that came from. No, I didn't really either. And in this moment, I'm I'm personally starting to suspect him. Jared Leto. Yes. I've been suspecting him from the beginning, but I can't tell if it's because it's Jared Leto. I know. I had that thought, too, where I was like, well, I'm just primed to suspect you of bad things now.

I suspect you of things. There was a point where I was suspecting this couple by the way where I was like it feels like the killer is getting from like point A to point B a little too quickly for me. So then I was like, maybe it's both of them. This couple is actually like Tara Reid and her boyfriend are the ones

doing this crazy thing. By the way, I should add because I did drop the ball on this that Tara Reid runs a like college radio station show like and so she like where they talk about sex and relationships it's a little racy and you know like late night show so basically

her boyfriend is like I'm not fucking ending this party and like embarrasses Parker embarrasses Jared's character and it's like this fucking guy wants us to end the party and like embarrasses Parker embarrasses Jared's character and it's like this fucking guy wants us to end the party and like everyone's like boo fuck you whatever he gets out of there and remember like I imagine I guess that feels so intense for college

age people but anyway he's like alright I'm gonna get the hell out of here and then Tara's like I'm gonna go to the radio station I'm gonna go do a show whatever now Parker gets like super he's super drunk and he gets a call this is what it is he gets a call on the phone that's like basically like you're gonna die tonight some version of that I can't remember what the caller

said to him and he was like okay yeah fuck off basically he's like fuck you this is silly he's like oh I know this one oh yes i know this fucking urban legend let me guess like yeah um and so they got the and then they basically were like oh well do you know the urban legend of a dog uh getting microwaved i don't i haven't heard that one i had never heard that i had not heard that one it's had never heard that. I had not heard that one. It's like, it's like of the woman who dried her dog off in the microwave. He's like, I know what urban legend this is.

The call is coming from inside the house. Right. And he's like, Nope, this is the one with the woman who tried her dog off in the microwave. It's like, what? Yeah.

Down to the kitchen and the party stove popping and sees the dog. He opens the microwave. And I was like, kind of logically, we've never seen your dog to feel anything about this one besides this is just insane. This is just fucked up. I can feel a certain way

sort of neutrally about this. Sure, sure. So he opens the microwave and it's just like bloody guts in the microwave. Yeah. And so he like stumbles upstairs to the bathroom to throw up. Doesn't do it on sight. Just is like, ooh.

And gets to the bathroom to throw up in the toilet. We get a shot of his face in the toilet. And then he basically gets drowned in the toilet by the parka murderer. Ew. And he gets Pop Rocks and Drano shoved down his throat. Oh, Pop Rocks and Drano, too. Yes, he gets trapped. And then Pop Rocks and Drano.

And it's like, yeah, that's that's real. It was really bad. That is disgusting. I don't like that. That sequence of events was not OK. Toxic. It's genuinely toxic. was not okay toxic it's actually genuinely toxic so then we go to the radio station and tara reed's character is uh doing her little late night thing it's you know some spookies going on and something is afoot here at the station um her engineer is like behind her in the in the booth like other side of the booth or whatever and she's talking to some caller and her engineer basically gets like dragged off and suffocated, killed, like, and she doesn't realize. And then she like goes to say something to him. He's not there.

And then she's like, Oh fuck. Or like sees him dead. I can't remember, but she's like freaked and is like, what the fuck happened? I got to get out of here. Sees Park a person and now they're having this like intense rut she's running from she's running from the person in the parka all through this like student building that again it's not a it's a it's a weekend so like there's no one in and it's late night and um she's running her she's running away from this parka person and at now meanwhile at the party they like are also playing her radio show oh right yeah and they're playing a radio show and there's just like this weird guy

who's like he's like she's doing the moaning thing again but natalie's like those moans don't sound like like she learned her lesson from the tosh she's like those aren't sex that's not sex talk moans or like she actually sounds in danger. So I'm going to go to where the station is. Now, Tara reads running from the killer. There's a moment where basically, like, there's a staircase, this like big old staircase, stairwell. And she like, goes and like, kind of gets falls off the other side, but then catches herself.

Her fingers are on the edge of the like, on the edge of the floor there. And she's barely holding on. I don't like the way you're showing the fingers as an important highest up is happening to these fingers. Well, you think it's so spooky because then the person has an axe and is ready to go to war and you're like, they're going to cut her fingers off.

They're going to cut her fingers off. But then they did it. She fell and then like hurt herself and then stumbled away got her back in the like right in the room i believe and then just axed the shit out of her she got stuck in the room where she started and like she got axed which also like what urban legend is this exactly we're like and now we've departed from urban legends all together this was just a murder. This is just a straight up murder.

And I do feel a bad way about it. So then Natalie gets there to discover she's murdered. That sucks. Now. Totally stinks. Super upset about it. And so now Natalie, she gets back to campus, though, which also is not. I remember being like, what? How did she get back to campus?

Right. The layout is a little confusing. Seems like she got there pretty quick. Yeah. We get some like those holes of logic. So heads back to campus. First, she like teams back up with Brenda and Paul. They put their differences aside.

OK. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You're so right. They're like suspecting Professor Wexler.

At some point, they Paul doing his journalism digging. Sure. Finds that Professor Wexler is the only survivor of the Stanley Hall massacre. And it's the 25th anniversary of the Stanley Hall massacre. it's the 25th anniversary of the Stanley Hall massacre and so they think that he is on a killing spree for revenge

for what happened to him or whatever yes and I also remember by the way we gotta say the janitor is like a little spooky guy but there's this very spooky janitor that just like pops up at interopportune times and is just like okay where'd you come from and

um so now they're suspecting professor wexler they get that so how do they get back to campus i guess that's the part i'm confused on and i remember feeling confused in real time so i'm also confused about why they're doing they like go to a gas station the three of them now brenda paul and natalie and brend Brenda and Natalie kind of smooth things over. And she's like, it's okay. Like, I'm not mad at you if you like him or whatever. Yes. And then Paul goes inside.

Into the gas station. And there was something in the car when they got back, when they got in the car, Natalie's like, something stinks in here. And he's like, no, it doesn't. And so then you go like, oh, Paul is the killer. No, it doesn't. It then you go like oh paul is the killer and it was just like no no questions just no it doesn't no that's no it does not and then it was like all right so he goes in the gas station they smooth things over brenda and natalie and then i feel like they're

like no it fucking stinks while he's in the gas station and they open they open his trunk and they open his trunk and there is dead professor the dean the dean is dead right no it's professor Wexler I was having I'm not gonna lie to you guys I was having as a viewer trouble

being like which white man is this I remember being like in real time also like dean or the professor because they don't look the same but sort of you know anyway yeah yeah so professor wexler in the car they run away crazy that him saying it doesn't smell didn't work yeah so they're like fuck this guy's the killer he comes out and he's like where are you guys going now they're like they're booking it and natalie uh is they're running through the woods brenda falls and natalie just like keeps going that's what it is that's and then she ends up at camp like and then the like creepy janitor

actually she hitches a ride with the creepy janitor she's like running running running creepy janitor gives her a ride a moment happens oh how could i forget this a moment happens where the creepy janitor gives her a ride and you're like oh god he might be the killer because they also felt like they were trying to set him up as the killer well he has the parka in his car in the back seat they have he has a park in his back again it's a popular style yeah yeah exactly so then she's like what what the fuck? And then at that time, she's kind of panicking, but plot twist, again, is that a driver

drives by with their lights not on, and the janitor flashes the other car. And then it turns into a chase again, and it's like, and she was like, no, don't do it, but it was too late, and he had already flashed. He was like, fucking kids, forgot to put their lights on. And now they're in a chase chase car runs off the side of the road

janitor presumably dead now and natalie gets away and then she lands back at campus yep okay so she lands back at campus hears from the abandoned dormitory where there's like lights on and like a sheet in one of the open windows. It's like, help me or something. I can't remember what she heard, but she then goes to see. I think what she thinks is it's Brenda being attacked because she got separated from Brenda and doesn't know where she is. And so she's like, oh, this is Paul's place that he kills people. You found a dead body in the back of someone's car.

This needs to be the first thing you address when you arrive. Absolutely. You call someone. Yeah. Let's not. Let's not go help this person in this. Like, you're not equipped to like also just knowing your own capabilities. You're clearly not equipped to.

Your friend was murdered earlier this week. Like a lot of your friends. Your roommate. Everyone around you is dying. I think you gotta go get help instead and not try to be the help. And you have to know you can't pour from an empty cup. And at this point, you're

empty. She's empty. She's empty. Absolutely empty. So she goes in and the first thing she sees is it a dead body in there basically the first like actual proper scary thing is like it's a dead body yeah i feel like it's all dead bodies just popping it's like dead bodies galore in this bitch and then she like goes into this one room and she sees nat she sees excuse me brenda like sprawled out on the bed like looking like oh this person is like sick and does like sacrifices in here and like brenda's like laid out on this bed and looks like she's like dead and she's

freaking and she goes so then uh natalie goes to to like, be like, what the fuck is going on? And then you see Brenda behind her just like slowly sit up and like look crazy. What? It was Brenda! It was Brenda! It was Brenda? It was Brenda. And Brenda then explains, hey, that fucking driver you killed, that young guy was the love of my life, my high school sweetheart. We were going to get married.

What? And we were gonna get married and we talked about getting married and you guys fucking killed him and went on about your little fucking merry way and like was like and now you're gonna pay and it's like basically like i'm gonna kill you slowly now you're gonna get killed slowly yeah spooky guys spooky so she she's like she's like basically like tied Natalie up now like knock Natalie out ties her up and is like yeah you're gonna die a slow death and now she looks crazy the curly hair oh my god juicy role her performance is very fun yeah it's I kept thinking when she got the script and got offered that role, it was like, well, this is fun and different.

And so anyway, she basically was like, I'm going to torture you. But then Jared's character, basically, also Natalie gets out of her little tied up thingy and now these two are in a duel of sorts. And Jared's character

appears and you think like, okay, cool. thingy. And now these two are in a like duel of sorts. And Jared's character appears. And you think like, okay, he's okay, cool. Is he in on it? He's not in. No, okay, he's not. He's here to help Natalie. And he comes in with an applaud, applausing for her, applauding for her. And I was like, this is very funny. Wait, who's he applauding for? Wait, I don't get it. I think he's kind of trying to trick her into being like, alright, I'm in love with you now and let's do this together. Oh, he's trying to trick Brenda. He's trying to trick

Brenda, I think. Oh, okay. Because Brenda does, even though she had a previous love of her life. She does have a crush on Paul. She has a current crush on Paul. Exactly. Exactly. So then, basically, she, like, shoots him, by the way. Wait, Brenda shoots Jared? Did she shoot him?

Did the gun not come in until she like basically overpowers him too somehow. So the campus security officer comes in at some point and that's when the gun comes in. And I don't remember how she had basically

overpowered Paul but then the campus security comes in and is like basically doing that thing where someone holds a gun and is talking about like you did the wrong thing and it's like you better shoot them because they're like you're doing too much talking yeah no monologuing no monologuing doing a little bit of a monologue you're like better shoot him and then of course she like kicks the gun out of the loretta's character's hand and i think like hits her with an axe or something she she injures her pretty badly and now this gun is all around and now you know brenda's got it um then someone knocks it out of her hand and she shoots she she shot she shot him i believe but i can't now i'm being honest I can't remember. No, I'm being honest. I can't remember who got her because she gets shot by Natalie, actually out of the window, out of the window.

And that's how she actually dies. She gets shot out of that, that window that Natalie was gazing out of at the top of the scene. And, and she ends up dead. Loretta got to have her scary, like, as she had been practicing, like shoot out, this is how you protect people moment and yeah and then it was like that's that's how the story and oh wait wait no but then the movie ends with like all right new era of students and they're talking now on campus about

the crazy murders did you guys hear about this thing that happened at Stanley Hall and like it was a string of urban legend murders that want to happen around campus and then they're like no someone's like no no no no no that's not what happens and then at the very end it cuts to Brenda she's also a student with these people somehow it doesn't age and it's like no that's not how it went down and then like that's the end of the movie it's like she, she's now, but then you're like, well, what's your beef with them? We understood why you like,

felt like you wanted to hurt Natalie. But I'm like, so are you going to terrorize these young people as well? Not well, because yes, she died. She got shot. She got shot out of the window, but I guess survive.

I guess she's a supernatural. She's supernatural. Well, that's what the window, but I guess survived. I guess she's supernatural? She's supernatural. Well, that's what the students are saying. They're like, they never found her body. And so, like, maybe she's still alive. I know, crazy. Where is her body? It's not here.

It's not right here on this couch across from you. And there's no way we could ever see a picture of this woman. Because, by the way, she looks like herself. Yeah. There's not, like, dyed hair. And hair and now she has like this crazy different look totally looks the same i imagine there were newspaper articles with her face on them like very much photos of this woman exist yeah oh my god if her whole beef was with with Natalie and her friend who died at the beginning, like, why did she microwave a dog?

Why did she do... There's like a lot of... Why'd she murder Tosh? It's just like, what? There's a lot of collateral damage. She spent a lot of time not killing Natalie. Like, a lot of time. Losing the love of your life, I suppose, is supposed to make you crazy. Yeah, like, bloodthirsty.

Also, why was Jared Leto insisting that it didn't smell in the car? Is he embarrassed? He doesn't want a stinky car. It was almost like he farted. That's what I thought the conversation was. Maybe he farted. He must have farted. He must have farted. It does stink. It absolutely does

stink and you smell it. It was just such a strange... So listen, I know I started applauding the filmmakers at the beginning of this. But I have to say, there were some bare holes in the plot story where I had to ask you, now, how did she get from here to here? Maybe 10 times. Because it didn't track to me at all. I still think it deserved more than 23% on that.

I was riveted every second. Every second. It was better than I expected it to be, to be completely honest. I had fun. It's very fun. It's a fun one. It's a fun one. It was super fun.

I love these ensemble, late 90s ensemble horror movies. I want more of them. Can we have a resurgence of these? I would love that. That's a fair petition because I feel like those ensembles make it a little less scary, though, too, to be like, I'm not looking at actor in this spooky situation. I'm watching Joshua Jackson and Tara Reid in a scary movie. I want the who's who of Hollywood. I was going to say, does that even exist? Does 2022 have a Joshua Jackson? It's like the cast of Riverdale.

Yeah, just give me the cast of Riverdale, I guess. I think so. Just put them in everything, honestly. I'm here for it. Ladies, thank you for having me. Thank you so much. So this was your first time revisiting this movie since you knew it? Yes.

Incredible. Can you not tell by the very bad job I did? such a good job you were you're incredible to do you're supposed to do on this podcast and i was like so what happened to get help no it was perfect it was perfect oh my god yeah i go thank you so much for joining us is there anything you would like to plug, promote? Where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter at eggy underscore boom, B-O-O-M. And then on

Instagram at eggy boom, no underscore. Okay. The underscore on Twitter is because a woman named Esther Wilson has eggy boom. God damn it, Esther. I'll just shout her out every time. Esther, come on. You don't use it. Give it up. Give it up. Esther, you don't use it.

Cough it up. Occasionally in the fall, catch me on Saturday Night Live. That's fun. People know that one. People know that one. People know that one, but thank you so much. Thank you. We had so much fun.

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