Too Scary; Didn't Watch - WHAT LIES BENEATH

Episode Date: February 23, 2022

Stunning Vermont lake houses, academic research in bed, and sexual tension galore, we're recapping Henley's favorite movie, WHAT LIES BENEATH! Fill up your claw-footed bathtub and dive in wit...h us! Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6nTJMdrGVUYou can watch What Lies Beneath on Showtime Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies. So I watch them so that you don't have to and tell you all about them. Usually that's the case this week. I don't know what's going to happen. There's been a massive plot twist with this podcast. Everyone, hold on to your butts because I'm doing the recap
Starting point is 00:00:48 this week. What? Freaking crazy twist. I was very brave. So brave. Holy crap. But before we get into Henley's recap, did anything scary happen to us this week?
Starting point is 00:01:04 I have started more regularly doing sugaring, which is like waxing, but a bit milder. Mm-hmm. And I love my lady. Oh my god, I love her. She's so cute and we have just a great
Starting point is 00:01:22 time. What exactly is sugaring? I don't really get it it's it's um it's like melted sugar that they that is sticky because sugar and so it's like waxing they like lay the wax and a strip and pull the strip up to remove the hair sugaring they just she just like rolls the sugar onto my body and pulls it back up. So she's using the same wad of sugar basically like over and over again. Whoa. It's wild, but it's like it's not as aggressive as waxing. So it's better for sensitive skin and it's – I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It's cool. I like it. I mean I don't like it. It hurts, but it like doesn't – You prefer it. I prefer it and the more you do it, the easier it gets, which has proven to be the case for me. I have very sensitive skin. And so shaving is always an issue.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Waxing doesn't work. Do you guys want to know more about my skin? Tell us more. Want to know more details. So anyway, I've started doing sugaring regularly. And I love my lady so much. And I just saw her the other day and it's almost Valentine's Day as we record this podcast. It won't be when it comes out.
Starting point is 00:02:35 So I hope y'all guys had a great Valentine's Day. So I have little heart nails that I did. They're pretty cute. like heart nails that I did. They're pretty cute. And my waxing lady noticed them and complimented them as I was spreading my ass cheeks for her, which is when she could see them. We both had a really good laugh about that. But really what I just really thought and i've been thinking about since is like
Starting point is 00:03:05 can you imagine being a man like men can't even like hug each other as much as they want to and i'm being complimented on my nails by basically a stranger while she's like up my ass and it's just like i really was just like wow i can't even fathom what it would be like to be a man and i just uh i'm really for all the shit that it takes to be a woman i'm also like wow we being a woman with other women is wonderful it really is nice it is nice there just don't need to be any boundaries you're saying there don't need to be any boundaries if you don't neither or neither woman wants there to be you know exactly and it's like you as i feel like as a woman you just get like very comfortable very fast with all manner of people having to like be in your body like i've had so many doctors
Starting point is 00:03:57 and people just like up inside my body many times and so at a certain like, yeah, okay, it's just a body and like, here you are, but we're just having a conversation. And oh, thank you so much. You like my nails? Yeah, thanks. Anyway, it was just a really, it wasn't scary. So it was actually delightful, but just a very funny set of circumstances that I've just been waiting to tell someone about since I haven't had the right context for it. So I guess here with my two dearest friends and also a bunch of strangers and definitely also my parents is the right way to discuss this. And my parents too. And mine. And mine. Don't forget about mine. Hello everybody's parents. No, it is true. I mean, I feel like I wish that I was one of these women, but I feel like one
Starting point is 00:04:44 thing about being a woman is that you have a lot of maintenance when it comes to your body, like your hair, your nails, just generally. And there you, you know, other people help you with that. And celebrities talk about this. team are the ones that know all their secrets and are like their closest friends because you spend so much time with these people who are helping you like be the person you want to be in the world you know it's incredibly intimate yeah very intimate it's incredibly intimate and i will say i didn't ever used to be comfortable with that like it probably took me until my late 20s to be like oh i guess people can see my body and it's just a body and like who cares yeah like i even used to be very self-conscious getting massages and stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Because I was like, ooh, what if like when I turn over, they like see me? And it's like, yeah, they probably do. Who fucking cares? They see a thousand bodies. Like, they don't. It's not a big deal. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I've just gotten to a place where someone can be like between my legs who I barely know. And I'm like, yeah, whatever. I trust her. That's that's fine yeah this is good this is a good reminder I may have to get a colonoscopy eventually oh my god so much butt content today it reminded me
Starting point is 00:05:57 there's gonna be a stranger by my butt too yes so this is good to remember I love to just remind you that this is what you and president joe biden have in common we will have gotten colonoscopies you both will have gotten colonoscopies and that's probably the only thing you guys have in common and we're probably the only people who have gotten colonoscopies it's pretty special between the two of you you should call them up but my scary thing this week which you guys already know and i hope i don't go to jail for saying it on a podcast but i went to a party in which i had to
Starting point is 00:06:36 sign an nda to go into the party am i legally allowed to say that i won't tell you anything about the party don't tell us anything else that could go to jail oh? I won't tell you anything about the party. Don't tell us anything else. You could go to jail. That is so crazy. Wait, okay, Sammy, you did text us this, but I completely forgot to follow up on the deets. And I know you can't tell us all the deets because they will slap lawyers on your ass if you do. I immediately was like, who is there?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Truly, that must be why. Why did you put it in writing that must be why right i mean but there weren't any real big celebrities there that's the thing is that without revealing anything about the party i feel like i can confidently say nothing there required an nda like i don't i don't think there was a reason for it but it was just so bizarre walking up thinking i'm going to a party and being stopped at the door and being told, please sign this NDA before entering. It's like really sets a strange tone. Like what's going to happen in there?
Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah. It's also like when you don't like I've had to sign NDAs for like auditions and stuff and jobs. You're like, I understand why. And this but like, I know what i'm i know what i'm saying i won't say but when you're walking into a party and they're like hey anyway don't ever tell and you're like why like what's gonna happen to me it's like an eyes wide shut situation right like that's what you'd expect in which case like tell me beforehand yeah yeah yeah that's no no i mean like you tell me i want to know everything can you imagine if i showed up to an eyes wide shut party without knowing that that's
Starting point is 00:08:13 what it was i'd be so stressed it would be wild i would not i don't think i like scientologists there yeah that's possible that's possible who i don't know. Who would require an NDA? Like, I just don't get it. It's not like they were showing you any content. It's not like anything untoward was happening at the party. There were no celebrities there. I just don't get it. I also don't get it.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So weird. I really hope you don't go to jail. I hope I don't go to jail if you're listening, the police that this party hired. Party police! Party police jail if you're listening the police that this party hired party police if you're listening if the party police are listening please don't send me to jail I really I really don't want to go to jail but it just really was a scary thing I just have never experienced anything like it I mean I wasn't like scared scared but it was just like what the fuck like what is going to happen it put me a little bit on edge and maybe that's the vibe maybe that's the vibe they were trying to create just like maybe it was a social experiment like how will a party be affected by this
Starting point is 00:09:14 love to be on edge yeah that really it just like fuel to the fire for social anxiety like i have enough social anxiety like don't make me sign an nd on top of it, you know? It was fun. And that's all I can legally say about it. It's fucking cool, though. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool that you went to a party that required an NDA. Even if it didn't make any sense, it's still kind of a badass thing to have happened. My thing is not as cool. It's just that i wanted everyone to know um that the scary thing that happened to me this week was that i watched episode five of euphoria that was potentially also going to be my scary thing i wrote it down as an as an option i you guys have really been lobbying to get me to watch euphoria. And then this happened and I don't even know what it was.
Starting point is 00:10:06 But you both were like, oof, maybe not. Maybe not. Which is what I've been saying the whole time. So I have been struggling with whether to do spoilers. I think I probably just shouldn't because people might get a little upset if I do spoilers. However, it will be difficult to talk about it without spoiling it. If I do spoilers, however, it will be difficult to talk about it without spoiling it. All I will say is that this show, the centerpiece of the show is Rue Zendaya.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Zendaya? Zendaya. Zendaya. Zendaya, who is a brilliant actress. Zendaya is Michi. Exactly. You guys remember that? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And there are lots of other characters, but she's kind of like the central force. And she is struggling with addiction. And then this episode follows her as she hits rock bottom or what we God please hope is rock bottom. Because, you know, it could not be rock bottom. And if that's the case, then, man, I don't know if I can stomach this show for much longer. But let me just tell you, Euphoria like draws a fine line between like fun and games and like actual trauma. And this episode was just traumatic. I like the ending of this episode was so deeply upsetting to me. I can't stop thinking about it. I think about it constantly every day. It's been a full week now since I've seen it and I still just needed to talk about it. I just needed to... I can't even talk about it because I can't spoil it, but I just need you guys to know that I am so sad. I'm just feeling sad. I feel the same way. It affected me so deeply on like a physical level. I cried basically start to finish the whole episode.
Starting point is 00:11:53 It like felt like a gut punch for a full hour. And there was a part where I dry heaved. Yeah. And the thing that's interesting about this is I was trying to read commentary about it afterwards. And a lot of the commentary completely missed the point at the end, the end. And Sammy, you kind of had to point this out to me, too. To be fair, I was like, really not listening to pay attention by the end because I was so deeply upset that it was hard for me to focus. Yeah. But there's like a very important thing that happens at the end that isn't explicitly called out, but is pretty obvious if you just like
Starting point is 00:12:30 watch it and focus. And it's so weird. There were all these TV review reviewers who are writing these like in-depth recaps and not mentioning like this very clear thing that happens at the end. And I was thrown by that. I don't really understand how people missed it. And that was like the pull point, I think. It's almost as if we signed an NDA about the episode and we can't tell you any specifics. I know, I'm sorry. It's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I know, It's very interesting. I know. I'm sorry. But Zendaya is such a magnificent performer. She had multiple scenes where she was just like sobbing and her voice would crack. And I would... My voice would crack too. I was just there with her. And it was really intense.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And that was a scary thing that I experienced this week. Damn. I agree. I don't know, you guys. I don't know if I don't know. You could just skip this episode, Emily. You could watch. I don't know if I could.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I mean, I've watched it. That's true. But I just don't want to be that sad. I know. I don't either. Honestly, you know, I like to be I like to be sad. I know you like to be either, honestly. You know I like to be sad. I know you like to be that sad.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Okay. All right. So, speaking of being scared, here's the thing. I also watched this week's movie. You watched and chose this week's movie. True. True. Okay. Should we just get into it? Let's do it. All right. So, this week's um, the seminal film, What Lies Beneath. Um, I cannot, I cannot overstate how deeply I love this movie. It is so fascinated by that, Henley. Like since when and why? So, okay. here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:14:25 It came out in the year 2000. And I saw it in theaters with my mom. Wow. How old, were you 10? I was 10 years old. Wow. It's a kind of scary one for a 10-year-old. I think it's scary.
Starting point is 00:14:39 It's kind of scary for me when I saw it when I was, like, 26. I know. I know. I'm so impressed with myself. But, you know, I was with my mom. I was super comfy. I was super happy to be watching this adult film.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Very adult. I think I remember being so thrilled turning to my mom halfway through the movie and asking her if we could go get french fries at McDonald's afterwards and her being like yes and me being like this is the best day of my god damn life. That's really cute.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And I've seen this movie so many times since then and I just like love to enjoy it with other people. I love to enjoy it. This is a movie I love to enjoy. We have all watched it together if my memory serves me. Yes, that's the only time I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And once again, I'll say I was scared. Yeah, I remember being so excited that we were watching it together. However, I'm pretty sure we talked the whole time. And that was something I was not a fan of. I was like, can we just quiet down now? Can we just watch What Lies Beneath? You guys, What Lies Beneath is on. It's playing right now. I'm sorry, we just watch What Lies Beneath? You guys, What Lies Beneath is on. It's playing right now. Like, I'm sorry, are we
Starting point is 00:15:48 watching What Lies Beneath or are we not watching What Lies Beneath? Let's just turn it off if we're not watching it. I feel the same way, Henley, when people talk through things that I like. I watched The Matrix with someone once and they were talking through it. Not you, Emily. I've watched it with many people. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Is it me? Is it me? No. Okay, anyway, yeah. So you guys have both seen this film. I've watched it with many people. Thank you. I was like, oh, is it me? Is it me? No. Okay. Anyway, yeah. So you guys have both seen this film. How much of it do you remember? Not much. Not much? I remember Michelle Pfeiffer is hot and spooky. Hot and spooky. Yes, she is hot. I got to say in my notes, I use the words hot and spooky so many times so
Starting point is 00:16:26 she's hot harrison ford is in it he's hot oh yeah he's fucking hot um and there's something about a bathtub oh my god there is uh-huh give us the deets henley all right that's all you need to know so what lies beneath it was directed by robert zemeckis who i want everyone to know also also directed forrest gump back to the future and castaway and uh the polar express right oh did he oh yeah baby oh no talk about a razzy award jesus the polar express is so weird what a crazy crazy movie. I find it deeply unnerving. Yeah. I've never seen it, but I've just heard it's extremely bad and complicated. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, it's very bad. Okay. Well, anyway, let's just strike that from the record. He also did Forrest Gump, Back to the Future, Castaway. That's what's important to know.
Starting point is 00:17:20 You know, I've never seen Castaway. I love Castaway. Castaway's great. He actually filmed this while he was filming Castaway. You guys know who's in Forrest Gump? Haley Joel Osment. Haley Joel Osment, friend of the pod. Oh my god. Soon to be correspondent. Haley Joel, come back. They filmed What Lies Beneath. This is one of the trivia.
Starting point is 00:17:40 While they were taking a break from filming Castaway so that Tom Hanks could lose all the weight that he needed to lose. Oh. Yeah. So, Robert Zemeckis, Busy Guy. It was written by Clark Gregg and Sarah Kurnichan. It's starring Harrison Ford and Michelle Pfeiffer.
Starting point is 00:17:59 There are, like, other people in it, but those are the main people you need to know. You can watch it with a Showtime subscription on Hulu. has a 6.6 if you have showtime showtime exactly that's what we like to say um it has a 6.6 on imdb a 47 on rotten tomatoes and a 6.9 on metacritic i uh think that this is uh fucking goddamn shame 47 Bullshit. 47% is so low. It should be 10 out of 10, 100%. 10 out of 10? I just looked up Clark Gregg because the name sounded familiar to me. And he's the guy from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Starting point is 00:18:35 He's in Marvel stuff. But I just thought I should mention that. His Twitter, all of his recent tweets are his wordles. That's pretty annoying, actually. I think I say you looked it up because the name sounds fake because as soon as you said Clark Gregg, I was like, what the fuck kind of name is Clark Gregg? Yeah, I'm Clark Gregg.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Okay, so trivia. This is Harrison Ford's only horror film. Michelle Pfeiffer and Harrison Ford were Robert Zemeckis' first and only choice. Oh, okay. So I also, I think this is kind of worth explaining. So when the movie came out, Michelle Pfeiffer said in an interview that she was inspired
Starting point is 00:19:19 by Drew Barrymore's performance in Scream and used her method of projecting fear to help her get into the character. And then in November of 2021, Drew Barrymore has a talk show and she had Michelle Pfeiffer on and asked her if that was true. She was like, I read in this interview that you were inspired by me. Is that really the case? And Michelle Pfeiffer was like, yes, it was so true. I loved how you showed being scared in your own home. I really like based my performance off of you. And then Drew Barrymore was like, well, that's crazy. Because when they were designing my wig and hair and makeup look for Scream, I showed them a picture of you in Scarface. Yes, because that's what her hair looks like in Scarface. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And told them I wanted to look just like you in this. Oh, that's so cool. Isn't that crazy? Full circle moment. I know. Isn't that cute? And so Drew Barrymore then said, my head is tingling about the conversation.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I know exactly what she means. Someone should have given her an ice cube. The theatrical trailer was criticized for spoiling plot twists, so I'm of the opinion that we should not watch the trailer for this one. Especially since you guys have already seen it and it'll just refresh your memory even more. But what do you
Starting point is 00:20:42 guys think? We can watch it at the end. Yeah, let's. Okay. But I'm going to edit it in here. So listeners, if you don't want to hear it, skip ahead two and a half minutes. She's awake. We'll be quick and quiet.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I don't want to be either. I miss you so much. I'll come back all the time. All the time? Did a great job. She's a good kid. We did. What are they doing next door?
Starting point is 00:21:13 I guess the neighbors are making up. Leave it open. Think we can take them? It's worth a try. It's just us now. I was noises. What kind of noises? Where? At the house. I was scared.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Claire's hearing things. What are you hearing? Voices whispering. A picture fell. Missing girl. Do you remember this no i stopped this cafe to get a coffee and i see norman but he wasn't alone look at this doesn't that look exactly like a face and there's a hand see someone who's very close to me seems to be in contact with some kind of entity or spirit there's a ghost in my house. Any idea what she wants? She said...
Starting point is 00:22:09 Did you know her? I had an affair with her. She came out here to the house, threatened to kill herself. Get out! We can put this behind us. Our life can go on. It's not too late. You had an affair with a girl who killed herself and now she's trying to hurt you.
Starting point is 00:22:36 What does she look like? She looked like me, only she had green eyes. Stop! Hello Dr. Spencer. You're not yourself today, are you? No, I'm not. I think she's starting to suspect something. Your wife. Should we get into the recap?
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Starting point is 00:25:51 So we open with Michelle Pfeiffer taking a bath. We are right in there with her. I thought you were going to say taking a shit. Can you imagine? Taking a shit. I knew that was wrong. We open. We open with Michelle Pfeiffer. it take a shit i knew that was open we open picture this 10 year old me watching michelle viper take a shit
Starting point is 00:26:13 let's get fries after um she's in a beautiful claw-footed tub she is underwater and she bursts out of the water as though she's drowning and she hangs over the side gasping for air she is looking perfect the bathroom's looking perfect everything is beautiful
Starting point is 00:26:38 she gets out of the bath she here uses a hair dryer to blow the mirror to get rid of the steam. Do you guys do that? This is where I first learned that trick. No, I don't blow dry my hair ever. Yeah. I mean, I don't usually blow dry my hair either.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I do that sometimes. Yeah. It's very useful. And that's where I learned how to do it. So she is getting her daughter ready to go to college. Her daughter is leaving that day. They are in a new house that they have recently redone. She bursts open the curtains and the view is insane. They live on
Starting point is 00:27:14 this gorgeous lake. They're in Vermont. The house is so stunning. I mean, part of the reason why this movie is so fun to watch is because everything about it is so intensely aspirational. She's beautiful. The house is beautiful. The setting is beautiful. Everything is. It's really the it's complicated of horror movies. It's complicated of horror movies. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Henley's favorite movies. I know. I was thinking about that. I was like, God, I'm fucking white and basic as shit. White money. White money movies. And I love it. I'm here for it. I was like, God, I'm fucking white and basic as shit. White money. White money movies. And I love it. I'm here for it. I'm going to own that about myself.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Proud of you, Henley. She has a dog. The dog's name is Cooper. While after she gets her daughter up, they have a really cute relationship, a cute rapport. She looks out the window and she sees that her neighbors, who also own a very stunning lake house, are standing on their front lawn arguing. Harrison Ford comes up behind her,
Starting point is 00:28:14 gives her a hug. He's her husband. Very hot. Very heavy petting right away. Heavy petting? They have a very cute relationship. Harrison Ford has such a like deep voice i think that's he really does a huge part of his charm is his voice his voice is like it almost it's almost too much it like almost makes my skin crawl because it's like too deep
Starting point is 00:28:37 and wonderful do you know what i mean um so they are like they're just they're hot and heavy for each other. This movie is brimming with sexual tension. Yeah. So then they drop their daughter off at college. Michelle Pfeiffer is clearly upset. She's crying afterwards. Harrison Ford's comforting her. It's very it's a very cute back and forth.
Starting point is 00:29:04 They cut to that night. They're getting ready for bed. Michelle Pfeiffer is in the most beautiful nightgown I have ever seen in my whole life. I mean, that's money. If you're wearing a nice, if you're wearing like beautiful pajamas, I want to know if rich people actually do that or if it's just rich people in movies. Like, hey, rich people sound off. Do you wear gorgeous pajamas to bed every night? Because I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And I want to know if rich people do. I have bought myself nice pajamas, but it's like you have one pair. And like, you need to wear pajamas every night. So realistically, you know, I'm wearing one pair. Those special occasion pajamas. Yeah. Pretty rare that I'm putting those on. No, she is in.
Starting point is 00:29:51 It is the opposite of a nasty nightgown. That's what I was just going to say. No nastiness here. No nastiness. It looks like. What's the opposite of nasty? Perfect. Wonderful.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Delicious. Glowing. Yeah. I think nasty is like traditionally refers to maybe taste, so I would think delicious, but that's in the context of it's not a nasty night gown. It's a nice night gown.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Nice night gown. It's a nice night gown, but it's more than that. It's a perfect night gown. It's a nice gown. No, this is what I wrote in my notes. It looks like she's living in brooklyn about to get married like at a fucking cool venue you know what i mean i know exactly what you mean she like cracks the window you hear crickets outside it's beautiful it's like a summer it's so nice harrison ford is shirtless doing academic research in excuse me Excuse me? In bed. Yeah. Slay me. I'm dead.
Starting point is 00:30:47 She calls him brilliant. She puts her arms around her. He's like, how are you doing? Are you feeling okay? She says she's excited to have more time for herself. They start fooling around and then they start hearing the neighbors having sex very, very loudly. So michelle pfeiffer is like let's have sex even louder and so harrison ford goes and opens the window all the way and then i wrote that's curtains honey because i've been listening to way too much benito skinner um you texted our group text pause up and i was like oh she's been listening to obsessedessed. Pause up. So much. Pause up, honey. Where my girlie's at? Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:35 So, the next day, she's looking through scrapbooks, reminiscing. While she's doing that, she comes upon some pictures of herself performing at Carnegie Hall. She used to be a cellist, and she obviously gave that up to be a mom. While she's looking through that picture of a car, like a Polaroid of a car falls out, the car has been totaled. And she looks at the picture, and she starts to have a panic attack. And she's just like breathing really heavily. And she runs out of the garage into her front lawn to get some air. She's crying while she's sitting in her garden, kind of, you know, getting her shit together. She starts to hear her neighbor crying behind the fence. Her neighbor, I think her name's Rose. I don't know. Or Mary. Mary, I think is her neighbor's name.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Maybe it's Rosemary. Pretty sure it's Mary. I don't know. I don't know why I said Rose think is her neighbor's name maybe it's Rosemary pretty sure it's Mary I don't know I don't know why I said Rose maybe because she's in a garden I don't know her name is um plant that's the one um she tries to get her attention she's calling at her through the fence um she's asking if she's okay you're hearing the woman cry then she kind of stops and then there's a jump scare and the woman uh her eye like appears behind one of the holes in the fence and she's like breathing really heavily and she's like please leave me alone like it's it's too much i can't breathe i'm afraid she starts sobbing she's like i'm afraid i'm just gonna disappear one day oh god oh god he's back please what I said. And her husband pulls into the driveway.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Oh, my God. God, I don't remember this movie at all. Oh, my God. I'm ripping it. Good. That night, she's trying to explain this to Harrison Ford. She's like, yo, I don't think the neighbors are OK. Like, she seemed really upset.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Like, I think we need to go over there and just see what's going on. And he's very resistant. He's like, people argue. It's not our business. I don't think we should get involved. And she's pissed. She's like, just don't talk to me. I'm mad at you. Finally, he agrees that he will ask about the husband because they work at the same university. So he's like, I'll ask my colleagues about him and see what his deal is. The next day, she goes over to the neighbor's house. She has brought a little care package. She's knocking on the door. No one's there. It's very spooky, lots of dramatic music. And she goes around the side she tries to look through the window and she discovers there's a woman's
Starting point is 00:34:08 sandal just one sandal with a drop of blood on it and she's like uh oh that's not good when she's coming back her friend stops by just her friend just checking in seeing how she's doing I think her friend's name is Judy or Jody
Starting point is 00:34:23 and then that night there's a thunderstorm. There are a lot of storms in this movie, which are fun, like summer storms. The power goes out. She sees she looks out the window because she hears something outside and she sees the husband, the neighbor husband, shoving something into the trunk of his car, looking suspiciously like a body. She freaks out. She goes and wakes up Harrison Ford and is like, oh, my God, look, look, look outside. Look outside. He looks outside.
Starting point is 00:34:59 The car's gone. The husband's gone. He doesn't see anything. He's like, I don't see anything. I don't know what's going on. Are you OK? And she's like, I don't know what I saw. I feel like I'm going crazy. So then she just starts spying on the neighbors. She's like, looking over the fence. She's got some binoculars. She's just trying to pay attention to what's going on with them um when she's doing work outside she goes back to open her front door and the front door just opens for her before she can turn the
Starting point is 00:35:35 knob the knob turns and the door opens and she's like um that's weird she walks inside of her house she feels like she like hears someone. Maybe she hears someone's voice. But then she goes into the other room and the window's wide open and there's wind coming through. So she's like, it must just be the wind. She closes the window. The door thing happens a couple times. She goes down to the dock that evening with their dog, Cooper. She's playing fetch with him. She
Starting point is 00:36:05 throws his ball into the water. And all of a sudden, he stops and he growls and he refuses to go get it. And she's like, Cooper, come on. You love this ball. And she goes down to fish it out of the lake. And then there's a jump scare and you see a ghostly face rise up to the top of the lake and she freaks out it's is it like a woman's face do we recognize this face is it a ghost or is it a corpse it's like a ghost corpse woman face it's it's like move like it's like an entity yes it's like it's like a it's like a woman who is a corpse is floats to the surface and looks right at her and then disappears
Starting point is 00:36:52 okay and um she freaks out but then her phone rings she has a wireless landline and it's Norman saying he's gonna be home late and she's trying to collect herself and he's like are you okay and she's like I'm fine I'm fine like don, and she's trying to collect herself, and he's like, are you okay? And she's like, I'm fine, I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Like, don't worry about it. Just saw a ghost lady. Don't worry. She doesn't want him to worry because he clearly already is a little worried about her. She goes back up to the house. Knob thing happens again. Door opens again without her touching it.
Starting point is 00:37:23 She's like, what the fuck is going on? When she gets inside, the radio turns on all the way up. We've all seen this happen. We know it's not good. She is very spooked at this point. So she's like, fuck it. And she just drives to Harrison Ford's place of work because she is scared to be alone. She gets to his lab. They are experimenting on mice. He is there. At first, you're like, is he actually working late? Or is he like, do we trust him? I don't know. But he's there. He's working. Right. Is he having an affair, perhaps? Exactly. But no, he's hard at work. And she's like, I heard things. I don't know what's going on. I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And he's supportive. And he's like, we should call the police. Like, I'm worried about the house. Like, we should call the police. She's like, no, I don't know what we would tell them. I don't think we should do that. And he also, when they get home, he says that he checked in on the neighbors and they're harmless, that the man is harmless and she has nothing to be worried about. And you can trust it. And also during this whole conversation, it comes out that Harrison Ford's dad was a very successful scientist. And even though he's passed away, are still constantly confusing harrison ford with his dad and it really pisses him off and michelle pfeiffer is like oh honey like you always get so
Starting point is 00:38:53 upset about this and he gets really angry um and so that's not good that's not a good sign i would say we don't like an angry husband no we don't don't. The next day, spooky things keep happening, including a picture of her and Harrison Ford drops off of the mantle out of the blue and breaks. She goes back over to the neighbors to see if she can chat with them. The sandal is still there, unmoved. No one's home.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Very spooky. So she hasn't seen the neighbors in a bit now. Yeah, since the man... But Harrison Ford says he has, and they're fine. Yes. Harrison Ford says they are harmless. So there's a long extended, tense scene
Starting point is 00:39:38 of her circling the house. Eventually, jump scare, the husband comes out the front door and is like, who are you? What can I help you with? And she asks if his wife is home, that she's just trying to introduce herself, that they're new neighbors. And he says his wife isn't home and he doesn't know when she'll be back. It is spooky and suspicious as hell.
Starting point is 00:40:00 This is the first time we've seen this guy? Yes, first time we've seen this guy. And he's kind of like, he's like a Harrison Ford lookalike, honestly. He's also like a sexy academic man. What neighborhood is this in? I don't even know. Seriously. She gets more obsessed with stalking her neighbors.
Starting point is 00:40:19 She's like looking at them through binoculars, all this shit. And then Harrison Ford kind of comes home from work and catches her and is like, what are you doing? We have dinner. We're supposed to go to dinner tonight. And she's embarrassed. And then they go to dinner together with Norman's friend. And Norman is Harrison Ford.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Sorry. Norman. What a cute name. That's my grandpa's name. It's a good name. So at dinner, they're having dinner with Harrison Ford's friend and his new girlfriend. And his new girlfriend happens to be someone that Michelle Pfeiffer used to know back when she was a stellar musician. So we get to hear some of her backstory about how talented she was, about how she was a genius.
Starting point is 00:41:02 about how talented she was, about how she was a genius. And this woman was just clearly, she says she would have tears streaming down her face when she would listen to Michelle Pfeiffer play. And then Michelle Pfeiffer explains that, you know, she stopped because she met a wonderful man. And that was the choice that she made in her life. And at this point, they start discussing their new house that
Starting point is 00:41:27 they have just moved into. And apparently it was Harrison Ford's dad's, actually, and they redid it. He inherited it after he died. And at this point, Harrison Ford says at the dinner table, he's like, it's haunted.
Starting point is 00:41:43 You guys need to know that it's haunted and michelle pfeiffer is embarrassed she's like don't air our dirty laundry publicly oh is he like making fun of her um no he seems to be like taking it very seriously but then he's like i think i i think it's my old man i think it's my my dad is angry about how we've redone the house and that's who it is. So he is kind of joking, but he's also not being obviously making fun of her. You know what I mean? Like he's like kind of like doing it in a way that's like funny and like supportive at the same time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:20 That night, she's tidying up and she discovers there's a key under a vent. It's an old-timey looking key. And she pockets that key. And as she goes upstairs, the bathroom door is slightly ajar and there is steam pouring out from inside the bathroom. She is very scared. She goes and slowly opens the door. It's absolutely brimming in steam. She approaches the bath.
Starting point is 00:42:51 It is on. It is full of water. And when she looks into the water, she sees that same ghostly face appear. And she screams. And Harrison Ford runs out of bed and is like what's going on you need help cut to her
Starting point is 00:43:10 seeing a therapist okay wait wait wait so you're saying she screams and needs help because there's no full bath like was the bath full the bath was full so why does she need to go to a therapist?
Starting point is 00:43:25 I mean, everyone should go to therapy. Therapy is great. But because she keeps seeing ghost ladies or? I think that Harrison Ford thinks she's going crazy and I think she kind of thinks she's going crazy. Because her daughter went to college, she's like, oh, I've lost it. Yeah, I think so. That's the only
Starting point is 00:43:43 reason they give. Well, and also I think there's, it's supposed to be implied that she's like a genius that never fulfilled her potential. And maybe having her daughter go away is like, was like the one last straw keeping her from like, keeping, not like losing it completely. So they're just like, oh, moms, am I right? Yeah, it's mostly about how moms can't keep their shit together. That's really the moral of the story here.
Starting point is 00:44:08 No, I don't know. I mean, I agree. But she goes to see a therapist. I think she wants to see a therapist, too. She's, like, too stressed. She's really anxious. She's not sleeping. She says she takes Valium for sleeping.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Then he does a really weird thing where she can't really, like, bring herself to tell him what's been going on. And so he offers her a fireball. The therapist? Is this a strategy? Not, like, the drink. Like, a fireball candy to, like, chew on or suck on. My therapist has never offered me treats. He has, like, a bowl of them.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And it's almost like a strategy to like get people. I do virtual therapy. So maybe in the year 2000 therapists were trying that out. I don't know. Anyway, it seems to work because she's like, there's a ghost in my house. I saw her in the water. And he's like, what'd she look like? She's like, she looks like me, but with green eyes, which is so funny to me because like
Starting point is 00:45:09 who notices someone's eye color, especially when they're like a fucking ghost in the water. I was going to say, you don't picture a ghost being like full color. Okay. Do you guys like right now, if I were to say, what are the eye colors of your like five closest friends friends I literally don't know answer no I've thought about this before because me too because I there are people
Starting point is 00:45:32 who do always notice people's eye colors and I'm always like oh that's like so interesting I just never retain that information me neither and I've always felt like that means I'm like a sociopath this less recently has become a thing that I've like buried as a fear within myself. You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I don't know what color people's eyes are. And like I and it's like really freaked me out. But I so I really needed this moment. What is it? I think I know what it is. And it's not a great thing for me. And this doesn't mean that this is what it is for you. But I just struggle with eye contact in general because I find it like a little disarming and too intimate at times and so like with strangers I don't usually make a lot of eye contact I see I don't I mean I
Starting point is 00:46:10 mean I mean like my friends no Emily I'm right there with you I I I think it's I also have facial hair blindness like facial hair blindness yeah yeah or facial and hair blindness do you mean like you don't know if somebody has a good mustache yes i have full facial hair blindness it is a thing i mean i don't know if it's a thing but i know that i have it where like a man will have a beard and then the next day he won't and i truly won't. Like it'll go completely over my head. And interesting. Men always expect you to notice that type of thing. And I just I just simply don't expect you to notice that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Fucking men expecting you to know their beards. I don't know what your beard looked like yesterday. And I barely know what it looks like today. I'm not paying attention. I don't know anyone's eye color. And this also recently came up because my friend, William, I think you'd be okay with me revealing this. He recently got very upset with someone that he was dating because they forgot what color his eyes were or something like that. Like he didn't know he had blue eyes i think i get blue and green like confused if you have blue or green eyes i think it's fair to guess one or the other they're close yeah they're close okay so like i literally i was like i know what
Starting point is 00:47:37 color your guys's eyes are but i just now before i said it like looked up pictures of you guys to make sure that like sam your eyes are brown right yes henley your eyes are blue right yeah but they're really green they're actually green but they're like okay but they're like that light like bluey green okay yes yes and your eyes are brown brown and my eyes are brown yeah okay it's like i oh my god like we're never gonna get to the end of this movie that you love so much honey because i i don't know why recently this has really been on my mind of just like i'm really glad we're talking about it as well because this is something i have i've thought about thought about quite often before because yeah i just don't i never i never know well so when william got really upset
Starting point is 00:48:18 at this person for not remembering his eye color i was like i kind of get it but also like i barely know what color your eyes are and we've been friends for so long. And I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's not make or break, you know? It's not make or break. I think I would want the person I'm dating to know what color my eyes are. Yeah, but it was also a fairly new relationship. You know, it wasn't like, you know what I mean? Also, like, sometimes in the pressure of a moment, if someone was like, what color are my eyes? I'd be like, uh, you know, whereas if I was just like picturing you, I could probably be like, and then that's what color their eyes are. A lot of people have like tricky color eyes, too, that are light.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Like our Jenna's are tricky. Thank you. Jenna's are like all of the colors. Yeah, they're like hazel with green. Olive-y, green-y. I swear they're all of the colors. Right. OK, because that was when I'm like, I feel like Jenna's eyes are hard to pin down.
Starting point is 00:49:06 But they're like light and interesting. Jenna has beautiful eyes. They're beautiful eyes. I feel like unless you're a person whose eyes are like, oh, they're like, you know how some people are like, they would get like prettiest eyes? Like Alexandra Daddario.
Starting point is 00:49:20 We all know what her eyes look like. Right. Because they're very blue. Because they're really intense. They're very blue intense they're very blue like one of our friends has like crazy like shockingly bright blue green eyes and so it's like well everybody knows what color his eyes are because they're like the eyes you know yeah anyway hard it's hard uh i am right there with you wow okay well i don't even remember where
Starting point is 00:49:42 we left off but i feel really glad that we had this conversation. Therapy, fireball. Me too. Fireball's working. Green eyes of the ghost. The ghost has green eyes. She's clocked that. So he suggests that she try to make contact with her and communicate with the ghost. And she's like, what, by a Ouija board? Cut to her opening a Ouija board in her living room. She's drinking wine.
Starting point is 00:50:05 She has candles lit. Her friend from earlier is over. She has stolen that shoe she found at the neighbor's with a spot of blood on it. They are doing the seance. Her friend can't. Now, this actually feels extremely ill-advised if that's an actual crime scene. Like, don't go get your fingerprints on this woman's shoe i know well i in a white woman a white woman just presuming innocence always not worried about a rich white woman not worried about a brush with the police this one
Starting point is 00:50:37 um she is worried about the ghost in her bathtub though so she means business um her friend can't stop laughing she's a little pissed about it but then the candles start flickering the lights they're going on and off the bathroom door it's slowly opening uh tension is building and then it's the dog it's cooper ha ha t cooper cooper did you make the candles flicker Cooper are you messing with the power again um so then her and her friend they end the seance they're just laughing
Starting point is 00:51:12 and drinking wine and she asks her friend not to tell Harrison Ford about it because she doesn't want him to she's like ever since the accident he treats me like a fragile loopy person um okay okay and we realize that a year ago she crashed her car um that's what that picture of the car was uh from earlier and um her friend is like don't
Starting point is 00:51:36 worry i'm you know i'm worried about you but like i won't tell him i promise um she goes back her friend leaves she goes back into the bathroom she's cleaning up her seance um she's you know wandering around the house doing some tidying and then uh-oh there's steam pouring out from the bathroom once they should have been doing the seance in the bathroom you've got to go to the source no no they were in the bathroom. You've got to go to the source. No, no, they were in the bathroom. Sorry, I should have clarified that. They were in the bathroom for the seance. Good job. She goes back in. She's terrified. Slowly, someone starts
Starting point is 00:52:13 writing in the steam on the window. You know. She screams. She runs downstairs. The computer turns on and it starts typing M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F over and over. M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F, M-E-F over and over and over. And she is scared. She's scared. And she goes back to Harrison Ford's office. M-E-F, by the way, could be the initials of the neighbor because her name is Mary Fior.
Starting point is 00:52:46 The neighbor's name is Mary Fior. So she goes back to Harrison Ford's office. She's having a full blown panic attack. She's like, our neighbor killed his wife. I know that she was mad at him. And I heard her be so upset and that she was scared of him. And our neighbor killed his wife. And he's like, what is wrong with you? Are you trying to sabotage me?
Starting point is 00:53:16 Because he's been working so hard because he has a conference coming up in a couple weeks and he's trying to finish his work for it. And he's like, do you just not want me to do well at my conference is this like what is this about and she's like fuck you it's not about you this is about something that's happening in our house um then they aren't and next door like the neighbor killed his wife at this point they have made their way into a very crowded hallway which is kind of funny it's like why is this hallway so crowded at night i guess there was like a lecture or something that just got out i don't know they're like at the university where he works in in their
Starting point is 00:53:56 home and i was like what's great and then their house is just filled with people for no reason. And while she's, you know, screaming at him, all of a sudden she sees the husband in the crowd and she runs up to him and she accuses him. She's like, you killed your wife. You killed your wife. And she's screaming, freaking out. And then all of a sudden the wife appears. The wife appears. And Michelle Pfeiffer is shocked, to say the least. And the wife is like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Are you okay? I'm okay. Oh, now she really looks crazy. Uh-huh. And she is very upset. So cut to, she's back in her therapist's office. She's not speaking at first. He's trying to get her.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Do we trust this therapist? What are his vibes? I think we do trust him, although it's hard to know because we, like, I don't know. I would say it's hard to know whether we trust him, but I think we do trust him. He
Starting point is 00:55:03 tries to get her to acknowledge what's upsetting her, um he tries to get her to acknowledge what's upsetting her and he tries to get her to talk about her marriage and she's like no i don't want to talk about my marriage i'm having some kind of episode because i'm now an empty nester and i'm so upset my daughter's gone and like that i'm okay with talking about but i will not talk about my marriage so that's a red flag i would say um so she comes home her friend jody has left her a book of witchcraft and alchemy at her door that's a good friend move um her neighbor then comes over to check on her mary fior she wants to apologize for having like a freak out in front of her a cup that like a week ago or however long it's been what's um her name what's uh michelle pfeiffer's name claire claire so claire yeah claire and norman um mary fior
Starting point is 00:56:00 reveals she's like have you ever just felt so consumed by someone that you feel like you're in physical pain when they leave? And it's very intense. Clearly have a very intense relationship. She reveals that she, Mary Fiora reveals that she tried to leave him because the relationship was just too intense. And she went to her mother's in providence but that night he came up in the middle of the night and brought all of her things and begged her to come back and so that explains what michelle pfeiffer saw when he was shoving things into his trunk so all of that's resolved and so you're like what could this what could this ghost be um so next she uh goes to
Starting point is 00:56:50 is she like mary what's your middle name no she should have done that she should have done that that was a huge miss on her part um that would have been a good question yeah it really would have um so i don't know what that would have solved. Because what if it is something that starts with E but somebody's like, okay. I guess, yeah. It would still be a mystery. All right, so then what?
Starting point is 00:57:14 Cooper typing again. Cooper? Cooper at the computer. Dogs can do anything these days. His tail just hitting the keyboard over and over in the same spot. M-E-S-L-K-E. So that night she goes to some kind of academic party with Harrison Ford.
Starting point is 00:57:35 He's off gallivanting with his colleagues. She is drinking alone. She's getting after it. She runs into an older lady who's a host of the party who is like i'm so glad you're okay i've been so worried about you and she's like what are you talking about and she's like well last year at this party i you know i i saw you when when harrison ford was accepting his award you went so pale it was like you'd seen a ghost and michelle pfeiffer is like what wait what are you talking about and then she has this like memory and she remembers that she had a full
Starting point is 00:58:14 like emotional breakdown a year ago and she'd somehow completely blacked it out i guess sure and that was the night that she like crashed her car um but she has somehow blacked out this memory and like doesn't and and starts to get repressed you could do that i think yeah absolutely so that night she's tidying up as she likes to do this one is tidy yeah i'm telling you her life is aspirational in every way. Her house is so tidy. I tidy quite a bit myself. You do, actually. You do.
Starting point is 00:58:49 You do, Sammy. Every time I'm tidying, I'm like... You two are a clean white woman. I bet Sammy's tidying as we speak. That night, she is, you know, looking at the photo that broke before, and she's trying to fix it. And she looks behind the photo photo and there's a newspaper clipping about Harrison Ford winning this award but then kind of cut off in the bottom right hand
Starting point is 00:59:12 corner there is a headline about a missing girl named Madison Elizabeth Frank so she gasps just like how you did emily and she goes and she goes to look her up she she does the modern day equivalent of googling her i mean the 2000 equivalent of googling her um madison elizabeth frank she pulls up a picture it slowly reveals itself uh pixelations coming clear and dang this girl a looks just like michelle pfeiffer and b wow she really kind of looks like that ghost she's been seen um bright green eyes those green eyes are stunning she shows she prints out the picture she brings it to harrison ford she's like did you know this woman and harrison ford is like no and she's like well this is the ghost i'm seeing and he's like, did you know this woman? And Harrison Ford is like, no. And she's like, well, this is the ghost I'm seeing.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And he's like, Claire, fucking knock it off. Stop it. Like, stop it. Do you want to get couple therapy? Not so supportive anymore. No, he's pissed. He's angry. And she's somehow okay with this. She, like, believes him, I guess. And
Starting point is 01:00:21 I don't know. She decides to do some research on her own. So she calls the police to ask about what the status of this missing girl case is. And they said that they have downgraded it to a runaway because she was so wild and crazy, she probably just ran away to Mexico. because she was so wild and crazy she probably just ran away to mexico um apparently mary elizabeth frank just had a real reputation for being wild and crazy sleeping with professors maybe i don't know so much does does she look like michelle it's not michelle pfeiffer right no it's not michelle pfeiffer it's not but they just look a lot of like but they do look a lot alike which honestly Michelle Pfeiffer myth
Starting point is 01:01:06 that's what it was it's just her it's not her character it's her the actress I know it's a P but it's the sounds of meth so I feel like myth
Starting point is 01:01:20 myth she goes to see Madison's mom. Madison's mom's still mourning. It's very sad. She shows her Madison's old room. She hasn't changed anything, as these parents usually want to do, where they don't change anything about their dead or missing child. While she is in the room, she a lock of madison's hair that she
Starting point is 01:01:49 steals oh my god she's just taking things so she takes that fucking lock of hair i understand she's on the right track here but also i do think she needs to understand boundaries yeah no no no no there are no boundaries the boundaries are about to dissolve fully, Emily. Just fucking take, yeah, take a seat. So, it's time for another seance. She's got this lock of hair. She has her little book of witchcraft and alchemy that her friend
Starting point is 01:02:16 gave her, and she's doing the thing. And this seance, it works. It works so well that she becomes Madison. Her eyes flash green. She is Michelle Pfeiffer, but she's got green eyes and she's got a sexy and wild vibe about her that she just did not have before the seance. harrison ford gets home from work and she's like in her red sexy robe and she's like really coming on strong to him they're hooking up uh it's very intense he's not noticing he's really into it um
Starting point is 01:02:59 she is like very aggressive at one point she starts starts to reach for a knife to kill him. Clearly, that's the intention of what's about to happen when he's just like too excited about the sex. Yeah, absolutely. Not noticing at all. Sex is happening. Can't see a knife. Can't see a knife. All he's he's singularly focused um and then
Starting point is 01:03:27 right as she's reaching for the knife bang she looks up she looks in the mirror that's in the room and she sees michelle pfeiffer in the doorway to the house rain falling very dramatic michelle pfeiffer is drenched staring horror stricken at what's going on clearly can't come in the house that is like removed from her body is scared trying to understand what's going on and at that moment michelle pfeiffer who's also madison at this point turns back to harrison ford and says, I think she's starting to suspect something. And Harrison Ford says, who? And she goes, your wife.
Starting point is 01:04:11 And then her face fully turns into Madison. And then he notices. Then he notices. I just remember the scary movie version of this. This one did sneak into a scary movie. Oh, did it? That line. Oh, interesting. I think she's
Starting point is 01:04:26 starting to suspect something and I can't remember the punchline now, but trust me, it was in a scary movie. So Harrison Ford pushes her off of him. She bangs into the ground and I guess her banging into the ground
Starting point is 01:04:41 shakes that little Madison spirit out of her and in this moment she remembers everything. She's like, I saw you. I saw you and Madison having sex. I saw you in our house. I saw you together. Like, she freaks out and is like, get out, get out. What happened? What happened? freaks out and is like get out get out uh what what happened what happened and um he
Starting point is 01:05:08 he's like sorry a bright young woman liked me oh my god a perfect defense i'm sorry and he's like i tried he like, I tried to break it off with her. And she's like, expect me to do a great hot young woman. Excuse me. I tried, but then it didn't work. Why are you being such a bitch about this? I can't help being wanted. What?
Starting point is 01:05:43 And it's so funny because it'd be one thing if their marriage was like devoid of sex or something, but they have so much sex in this movie. It doesn't you know what I mean? Not that that's an excuse ever, but it's like you have literally zero excuse Harrison Ford. So she's clearly very upset. She goes to stay with her
Starting point is 01:06:00 friend and her friend reveals that she actually saw Norman with another woman a few days before Claire's car accident. She says that she was going to tell her but then after Claire's car accident when she got to the hospital, Harrison Ford was so desperate at the thought of losing her that her friend just didn't want to say anything to like upset the marriage and she says like please don't hate me i'm so sorry i never told you what i saw and michelle pfeiffer's like i don't hate you um i just need to go back because i need to um i need to go back and ask him uh
Starting point is 01:06:39 a question and so she goes back to ask harrison forward harrison ford her question forward um and he's unconscious in the bathtub he has like there's like a phone in the bathtub he's unconscious in the bathtub she panics she calls 9-1-1 the police ambulance come. He ends up being OK, but he was electrocuted. Was he trying to kill himself? Afterwards, she's like, I just need to ask you one thing. Did you have anything to do with her disappearance? And I think what whatever what we're thinking is that the ghost did it. Like the ghost tried to kill him, you know? OK. Yeah. It doesn't seem like he would try to kill himself no no it was like to kill him yeah the ghost tried to kill
Starting point is 01:07:31 him and she's like did you have anything to do with her disappearance and he's like yes after our affair she became unstable she threatened to kill herself or kill you. I didn't think she'd go through with it, but then she just disappeared. And Michelle Pfeiffer's like, well, she's dead, and she's trying to kill you. And that's what they think is going on. So Harrison Ford starts researching That's what they think is going on. So Harrison Ford starts researching what to do about psychic psychology. He's like reading books on psychic psychology and calling experts about this and wondering how to do like an exorcism. Michelle Pfeiffer at this point, it doesn't think that he killed her. No, Michelle Pfeiffer does not think that he killed her.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Because I do. Michelle Pfeiffer does not think that he killed her. Because I do. Michelle Pfeiffer does not think that he killed her. And she thinks that she is just dead and after both of them in their house. Okay. And so he's like doing all this research to try to figure out what the hell is going on. While he's doing this research, he sees Michelle Pfeiffer walk outside down to the lake. She's holding Madison's hair. It's nighttime. she dives into
Starting point is 01:08:47 the water he runs out he uh rescues her from the water and he's like i believe you i believe there's a ghost we're gonna fix this was that madison trying to kill michelle pfeiffer i don't really know honestly this is when things get like a little weird and like there's like 20 minutes of this movie that like shouldn't be in it but um so now we're entering that 20 minutes where basically they're like living together shit weird shit's happening but it's unclear like why or what's going on she seems to have like forgiven him for having this affair because they've both been like traumatized by this ghost in their house um but she's also like ghost yeah she's like a little suspicious of him they have uh one scene where they're sailing it's like so out of the blue but
Starting point is 01:09:32 they're sailing and man i gotta tell you that was aspirational for me like i want to sail with my sexy murderous academic husband and she suggests that they stop by the small town after they're done sailing and it's a test because it's the small town that her friend saw Harrison Ford in and he
Starting point is 01:09:59 pretends like he's never heard of it before and so she's like dang he's lying to me he's hiding something he is hiding something um and she basically then
Starting point is 01:10:15 that night she goes and dives into the lake and finds a chest that has the key that she found earlier goes into the chest. A clue. She clues all over the board. She brings it back in.
Starting point is 01:10:32 It's so dramatic. She bursts through the front door dripping wet. She's dripping wet so much in this movie. She puts the chest on the ground in the middle of the living room. She's rummaging through it and she... Honestly, I don't even remember what like in the middle of the living room she's rummaging through it and she um i don't honestly i don't even remember what was in the chest but what's in the chest basically
Starting point is 01:10:50 makes her discover that harrison ford killed her and he comes downstairs and she accuses him she's like you killed her you killed her and then he is like i found her dead in our house. I did not kill her. I didn't know what to do. I didn't want to ruin our relationship. She killed herself in our house. What else was I going to do? I fucking put her in the lake. Like, what?
Starting point is 01:11:16 What do you want me to do? What else? Literally name one single other option. Can you get over it? She just wanted me and then was I supposed to do? What the fuck? She killed herself in her house. What am I supposed to do?
Starting point is 01:11:32 I put her in the lake. I put her in the lake. Can you just calm down? And she's like, I'm going to the police. I'm going to the police. He's like, I'll call the police. So then she stands there while he calls the police and tells them that they found because i guess when she dived into the lake she also saw the body i think is
Starting point is 01:11:50 what happened to a one-year-old waterlogged corpse i don't know honestly sorry my notes get really bad here um and while then she's like okay so she's chill with it she's like whatever he called the police we're all good Harrison Ford gets in the shower to take a shower as she as he's showering she picks up the phone and dials 411 you know that thing used to do and he dialed
Starting point is 01:12:18 information he did not dial the police and in this moment he attacks her he covers her mouth with a cloth comes up behind her smothers her she escapes and also can i just tell you guys it is so obvious that harrison ford is like not a good guy in this movie that's not that's not completely true because he's harrison ford and he doesn't play like he's creepy at all. He plays like he's standard Harrison Ford, but it's just like the facts are adding up, you know?
Starting point is 01:12:46 But as a 10 year old, I was shocked. The twist really worked for you? Floored. The twist really worked for me. It really, really worked for me. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Anyway, so this, this part is pretty scary. So she escapes, she like knocks him down. but then as she's running down the stairs she slowly stops being able to move and her whole entire body starts slowly becoming more and more paralyzed and she starts dragging herself down the hallway and that is so scary he uses the shit that he's been researching on her which is basically
Starting point is 01:13:27 a way to paralyze someone when they're still awake and can feel everything oh i feel like this is the thing that happens in horror like this is like a recurring theme in horror movies like paralyzed but still aware which like that we looked it up right or we talked about that's not real in real life right no i think, I think it is real in real life. That is real. That shouldn't be. I think we thought it wasn't real. And then we looked it up and it is real.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Did this happen in audition? It's audition. Yeah. That was way worse than this. I got to say. Yeah, that was bad. I don't want it to be real, though. So while she's in this state,rison ford does the thing that you know
Starting point is 01:14:05 murderers like to do he's revealing all he can finally be his real self the mask comes off i've won you're paralyzed he's like i never wanted this i just wanted you to love me and to be proud of me and to be happy um she was gonna go to the dean she would have ruined us what was i gonna do just sit there and watch it happen you don't know what it was like to hold her underwater and watch her life slip away but she gave me no choice and neither have you and then i got evil yeah and so then the camera is doing some big work here a a lot of, like, 360 weird shots. Zemeckis. Zemeckis.
Starting point is 01:14:49 He puts her absolutely paralyzed body into the tub and starts filling it up. And he's like, how'd you figure it out? I thought you were making up all this ghost shit just to mess with me. He says he was pretending to be electrocuted. He knew that that would make her feel bad and stay with him. Jesus. While the water's filling up, he calls her friend Jodi, pretends like he's really upset. He's like, I just had a fight with Claire. Please come check on her in the morning i'm gonna go sleep in the lab i'm worried
Starting point is 01:15:25 about her meanwhile the tub is filling up she's paralyzed um and then he's like that would suck and he's like every time i'll look at caitlin as an infant when they met from another man from another relationship and then harrison ford just like raised her with him and he he's like every time i look at caitlin i'll see you and then he kisses her like does a full on mouth kiss. And as he does, he notices that the necklace she's wearing is the necklace that he gave to Madison when they were together. And it's a jump scare. He freaks out and,
Starting point is 01:16:16 and like reels backwards and Michelle Pfeiffer turns into Madison for a second. And he gets very scared, hits his head on the sink, and passes out on the ground in the bathroom. Meanwhile, Tubbs filling up. She's still
Starting point is 01:16:34 paralyzed. It's creeping up slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly. But then slowly, the drug is wearing off. And she can move her fingers. She can move her toes. Several excruciating minutes of this are going by. The water has fully engulfed her and then she's finally able to
Starting point is 01:16:50 move her toe enough to unplug the tub and when she lifts herself out of the water Harrison Ford's gone. Oh no. She drags herself out of the tub into her bedroom, tries to call 911. Phones have been cut. She grabs a shard of glass from a broken
Starting point is 01:17:06 mirror, starts to make her way through the house. She gets to the landing. She sees Harrison Ford's line on the floor, head down at the bottom of the stairs, passed out. She sneaks over him, and as she does, he opens his eyes. She grabs keys and runs out and gets into their truck and speeds away. She's trying to call the police from the car phone. She's not getting any service, not getting any service. Then all of a sudden, he's in the trunk of the car. He breaks the window. He attacks her. They're going over a bridge. They're speeding all around. She veers off the side of the bridge. The car falls into the water. The car is sinking. He's strangling her.
Starting point is 01:17:51 They have a very intimate, intense scene of him basically about to kill her by drowning her. And she's like, please don't do it. Think of Caitlin. Please don't do it. And he just pushes her head under water. He's, I think, proved himself to not really have much empathy. I don't think that's going to work, unfortunately. No.
Starting point is 01:18:14 And then the piece de resistance of this movie, while she's underwater, a straight up dead body ghost. Like a corpse this time. A corpse, but like of hot like sexy beautiful water ghost that's also kind of a corpse with like a rotting face and green eyes floats
Starting point is 01:18:35 towards them and she attacks Harrison Ford allowing Michelle Pfeiffer to go free and she is this Madison it's Madison and she drowns Harrison Ford Michelle Pfeiffer lives she rises to the surface
Starting point is 01:18:52 just as the police arrive and Madison after like breaking Harrison Ford's neck just peacefully drifts off back into the water just like a happy little ghost baby she did what she wanted to do she did what she needed to do fully drifts off back into the water just like a happy little ghost baby. She did what she wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:19:07 She did what she needed to do. She releases the necklace. Somehow she got the necklace back, I don't know, into the water. And cut to next scene. Snow is falling. Michelle Pfeiffer laying a single rose at Madison's graveside.
Starting point is 01:19:25 She walks slowly out of the cemetery. Roll credits. Wow. And then we get fries from McDonald's. Hell yeah. But it's very crazy how much I did not remember anything in that movie. That's a little scary. I didn't remember anything.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Anything in that movie. That's that's a little scary. I didn't remember anything. It's hard not to tell it without it being so obvious that Harrison Ford's bad. I, to be honest with you, wasn't sure. I thought maybe she had killed Madison. And I feel like when I was watching it. Yeah, I wasn't sure that he was covering up for her. But that was the only other real option i saw it it just because harrison
Starting point is 01:20:06 ford is never a bad guy i think it is surprising you know because just him as an actor like doesn't read as bad but man when he's bad he's really bad and really scary he does yeah he's he can be scary for sure i brought me endless joy to watch this film again. I don't know why it doesn't scare me. The paralyzing part is scary, but I think it's because I know Michelle Pfeiffer is just like such a badass and can do anything that she puts her mind to.
Starting point is 01:20:35 And I just believe in her. She's gonna pull through. She's gonna make it. That's our myth. I'm never worried about her. And so it makes it okay. But yeah, I mean, thank you guys so much for giving me this opportunity to tell you about what lies beneath. Oh my God. Thank you, Henley.
Starting point is 01:20:52 I loved revisiting this. And it really, I really, it shows me how far I've come because I think if I had tried to watch this for the first time now, I would really be okay. Oh yeah. It is a spooky vibe. It's like a good Halloween vibe, kind of. It's a good one to watch on Halloween. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Wow. Wow. Yeah. Thank you, Henley. What a freaking treat. I'm not watching enough things with Michelle Pfeiffer in them, to be completely honest. What happened to Michelle Pfeiffer? She's in Mother.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Oh, no, thank you. Which a lot of people have asked us to do no no no no i'm gonna pass on that because i know they like they straight up like eat a baby alive and i'm just not down to hear about that okay we'll save that for a day that you're out appreciate it listen appreciate it. Okay, love you guys. Okay! Okay, love you guys. Signing off. Okay, TTYL. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:21:56 give us your best Harrison Ford impression, Henley. Well, I just kept thinking of the fugitive this whole time when I didn't kill my wife. It's so gruff. It's so gruff. It's voice shitting. I didn't kill my wife it's so gruff it's so rough it's voice i didn't i didn't kill my wife it's so but this time you did try to you did try i tried to kill my wife i killed my affair my woman i had affair with um i can't do a harrison board uh from all of us here from all of us i can't even what does this voice even sound like from all of us here. From all of us.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I can't even. What does his voice even sound like? From all of us here. From all of us here. At Too Scary Didn't Watch. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. He sounded like Hagrid. What is he? I don't know. Goodbye. Goodbye.
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