Too Scary; Didn't Watch - WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS with Reza Farazmand
Episode Date: April 13, 2022Put on your finest furs and top-hats and join us at the Unholy Masquerade because this week we are recapping the 2014 mockumentary, What We Do in the Shadows! Joining us to discuss this delig...htful film is the creator of the (equally delightful) comics Poorly Drawn Lines, Reza Farazmand. Check out Reza's comics here:https://poorlydrawnlines.comhttps://www.instagram.com/poorlydrawnlineshttps://twitter.com/PDLComicsTrailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAZEWtyhpesWhat We Do in the Shadows is free on Kanopy or available to rent for $2.99 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for
those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy
and I like watching scary movies
and I almost
got confused and was going to say I'm also
too scared because normally Henley would be
second. She would be saying that right
now. We can hear it like the phantom
voice of her
is in our heads.
She's not here this week.
She is not here this week. We miss her a lot.
She'll be back. She's with us in spirit.
For now.
Did anything scary happen to you this week?
You know, Emily,
something scary did happen to me this week.
Oh my gosh, I hate to hear it.
Something actually scary.
It was actually scary.
And that is that I had to take my cat
to the emergency vet.
He had been kind of dry heaving and seeming like he was choking for a couple of days.
And normally you're supposed to take them in right away when that happens.
No, with cats, sometimes they're weird, you know, and they go through little spells.
And yes, look, you're not a billionaire.
How could you possibly take your cat in every time they freaking sneeze? Exactly. I'm waiting until it's really urgent. And my indication of
that was when he stopped eating, which is usually a big red flag. And especially for my my bunk.
Oh, he's a big boy. He loves to eat. He loves to eat. It's his favorite, favorite time of day
every single day. So, yeah, so I took him to the emergency vet and poor little guy had to get X-rays and blood work.
And they sedated him and like looked in his throat to see if anything was in there.
And it was he's fine.
He's totally fine.
It was very expensive.
Yeah.
I love to spend a lot of money just to be told, well, you know, it'll be fine.
Yeah, just monitor him. He's a cat. Just keep
a look. Keep an eye. Okay.
But, you know,
I'm happy that I took him because I was
worried and it was, you know, worth it
for my peace of mind and better than
the alternative where something
would have been wrong and I wouldn't take
him in, which I would never have forgiven myself
for. No, that's true. That's tough. tough i'm glad i did it but it was stressful and scary and he's got a little
shaved arm now for where they took his blood and a little bit a little bandage it's so cute
oh my sweet little guy he was so um drugged up and really stumbling around the house last night it was really sad and really
funny oh my god he like also got really food crazy at the end of it like he like remembered
food existed and was like oh my god and he ate i think like mabel eats which he doesn't usually
eat like that where he was just trying to fit as much of it in his mouth as possible like so scared
it the second he doesn't get it all in his mouth it's gonna disappear yeah and no chewing no chewing straight breathing just
like swallowing mouthfuls well he was gonna get something so i'm gonna start if he kept doing
that exactly i was like my dude this is we literally just went to the vet because i thought
you had something in my dude we are we we're not doing this yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. My guy. This is not a good time for this.
This is a stressful situation for me to watch you do this.
So I had to, like, have him take a bite and then physically pull him back away from his food bowl to, like, force him to chew it.
Oh, it was very funny.
But he's doing much better today and eating.
He ate normally this morning, so.
Great.
This is great news.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So all in all, it all ended up OK.
A happy ending.
Yeah.
That is truly scary, though.
It's very scary when you have to take your your animal to that for many reasons, because,
you know, something really wrong.
Am I going to pay ten thousand dollars?
But are both of those things going to be true?
You know, it's really it's a lot.
It is.
It's stressful.
It's very stressful.
But thank God it was okay.
Thank God.
I'm so glad.
What about you, Emily?
Did anything scary happen to you this week?
Nothing quite that scary.
I'll say in this moment, I just recently cut my hair.
I cut a lot of hair off my head, which I love to do.
You know I love to do it.
But I'm still figuring it out because it's been a long time since I've had short hair.
And I like having short hair, but I also always feel like I look like a little medieval page boy.
Like I just feel like it's my me with short hair is always the exact size and shape of like like the page.
But like, I don't know, I like like biblical drawings of like Renaissance little boys.
You know, that's like how I feel.
Sometimes I think of it as as a lord Farquad from Shrek
It's exactly Lord Farquad it also sometimes
I feel like it looks like
Like whenever in a movie
A woman like uses a sword
To cut her hair off to be a boy it's like that
Exact vibe on me
But I'm really loving it
I'm figuring it out it's great
It looks great I think it looks great but there's always
An adjustment period you just gotta period. You just gotta get used
to it. Gotta get used to it.
Thank you for that. But what I want to talk about instead
of that, which I already talked about, so it's not
instead. It's in addition to.
In addition to. What I'd like to talk about
in addition to that is
last night
Joel and I watched a movie and
we had been at dinner with friends the night before
and somehow, oh, a friend of mine just worked
with someone, worked with a DP
who was a DP
on a Michael Bay movie and was talking about how
they like... Ambulance?
It was ambulance. Ambulance.
I'm seeing it this week. I can't fucking wait.
Okay, I can't wait to hear about it.
I'm, okay, yeah, so here's the deal.
So they worked on this Michael Bay movie
and was like, I lost all this equipment because they just like blew everything up. I mean, obviously the production paid for it, So here's the deal. So they, they, they worked on this Michael Bay movie and was like, I lost all this equipment.
Cause they just like blew everything up.
I mean,
obviously the production paid for it,
but that's Michael Bay.
And I realized in this conversation,
I haven't seen like any Michael Bay movies.
I think the only Michael Bay movie I've seen is the rock.
Which is great and fun.
I think that's the only one I haven't seen.
Oh,
the only one you haven't seen.
Okay.
Well,
let's see.
I'm embarrassed.
This one that I'm about to talk about because Joel and and i i was like oh i love action movies like i know people really
scoff at michael bay but like i love action movies like and big explosions that's fun i'll do it i'll
do it so joel's like well there's this michael bay movie that i've been wanting to watch i've
never seen it sounds super fun uh it'd be like a fun silly saturday night movie we can watch
it's like great that sounds perfect that's exactly what I want. The movie is Pain and Gain. Yes! I was like,
I hope she says Pain and Gain. I hope she says Pain and Gain.
Oh. My.
God. It's his best work.
It's his best work. Sammy, I hated
it like I haven't hated a movie.
I
truly, I
felt in the
it felt to me like how it feels
sometimes when you describe a horror movie to me at the end of it.
I was sitting on the couch and I was just like, I hated I wish that's two hours of my life.
I will never get back.
And I am the worst for it.
Like, I was so fucking upset.
I was so upset.
I have the opposite opinion.
I think the Rock's performance in that is his the best performance of today. OK, yes. I will so upset. I have the opposite opinion. I think The Rock's performance in that is the best performance to date.
Okay.
Yes.
I will say this.
I will say this.
The Rock is so funny in it.
The Rock is so funny in it.
But I hated it.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Felt bad watching it.
Felt bad afterwards.
Felt bad this morning.
It makes me feel bad for several reasons one the real life story of
it is insane i can't like and bad and like these are like sociopaths but the movie goes i think 50
of the way there of being like it's a farce about these bad people and you should think that they're
bad and we're like doing the thing like almost Wolf of Wall Street vibes
where it's like we're going to pretend
we're having fun but like actually you know that this is really
fucked up and gnarly.
But except they're also like
isn't Mark Wahlberg cool?
Like the movie's also doing that
and I was really upset by it because
no. First of all, no.
He's not. Second of all, no. These guys
are not. The only, okay look we're going to, we'll talk Second of all, no, these guys are not the only.
OK, look, we're going to we will talk about it later.
You and me will talk about it later.
I just like I was I was really upset by the things that happened in it.
I was upset by the treatment of the characters.
I was upset that this movie was made in 2013 and the characters in dialogue feel like this movie was made in 1990.
Like aged quickly.
Oh, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It was it had was made in 1990. It aged quickly. Oh my
God. Oh my God. Oh my God. It was
it had aged out in 2013.
Also the
only women in it are strippers
which like I get is like the
vibe and also apparently Michael Bay.
But like the one actual female character
they're just like look at this
fucking idiot stripper the whole time.
Even in the post credits
where they talk about what happened to the real life people they make fun of her i just don't
remember the movie enough to to really get into the plot of it with you i would never recommend
re-watching it to anyone but but you made me you should look it's doing some things it's doing some
things right i guess i I just like it just also
and Joel kept saying like I'm
sorry this isn't what I thought it was gonna be I'm sorry
like at first I think he really genuinely felt bad
and even said he was like are you gonna talk about this in the podcast
I said yes I absolutely
am and you know body
parts are getting separated from body Sammy I don't
know if you remember that oh I don't remember
that yeah
oh I gotta rewatch this movie because
honestly please because i need to talk to you about it i've been singing its praises and now
i'm nervous about that i'm sorry maybe you know that we have different opinions about movies so
that's true i think i i think that i have a stronger reaction to it than most people would
i do believe and joel and i were even we were like really talking through it this morning and
it led to a whole conversation about like gender politics
And toxic masculinity and the patriarchy
And it was really interesting and like male gaze and
And you know so you know
I do think I have a stronger reaction to it
But I just want to say I fucking
Hated it I hated it so much it's one of the things I've
Hated the most that I've ever seen and I really
I can't believe
That that's true I can't believe I sat
Down and watched a fucking Michael Bay, Mark Wahlberg movie
and have been like feeling like
absolute shit ever since.
So
please rewatch it and talk to
me about it. Let me know if I'm
crazy or not. Okay.
I will. I hope you recover quickly.
I hope it fades from your
brain.
Really, really, really fast. Thank you. I hope it fades from your brain. I hope so, too. Really, really fast.
Thank you.
I hope so, too.
And we'll talk about a movie that I think you're going to like a lot more.
I think maybe you already do like it a lot more.
It's going to be a better day for me.
And that movie is What We Do in the Shadows.
It was written and directed by Jemaine Clement and Taika Waititi.
Starring Jemaine Clement, Taika Waititi, starring Jemaine Clement, Taika Waititi,
Johnny Brough, Corey Gonzalez-McCore, Stu Rutherford, Ben Fransham, and Reese Darby.
And we have a guest with us today to talk about this film. He is the creator of the comic
Poorly Drawn Lines. It is Reza Farzman. Thank you for being here, Reza.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
So freaking excited.
Thank you for choosing this movie.
I didn't know when you had chosen it that I would need it so badly, but I really do
need this today.
So thank you.
But Reza, did anything scary happen to you this week?
Yeah, actually.
And it's also cat related.
Oh, no. Yeah. week yeah actually and it's also cat related oh no yeah so i have two cats and i just moved to a
new apartment and one of them fell out of a second story window at this new apartment
this just happened a few days ago so i like i i'm like still moving furniture around and i had moved
my kitchen table right up against one of the kitchen windows, which is like a tall, horizontally opening window.
And I guess my one cat saw some birds outside and was like leaning up against those.
And it just like collapsed out and he just fell.
And I just I was like, luckily, in the next room when it happened, I heard like a crash.
And I for some reason, I knew that that's what had happened, like instinctively. And I was like I was, like, luckily in the next room when it happened, I heard, like, a crash. And I, for some reason, I knew that that's what had happened, like, instinctively.
And I was like, oh, shoot.
So, I, like, I ran into the kitchen and saw the screen was gone and the cat was gone.
And I, like, ran out my back door and down the stairs.
And I saw him kind of, like, in a daze, like, on the ground with the wrecked screen.
And he was kind of. He was slinking around
and there was a neighbor dog barking
and making him a little nervous and scared.
They're very much indoor cats.
I was like,
this is kind of a bad situation.
I didn't want him to bolt, so I walked
slowly after him to try to
make him not nervous.
That's what you got to do. You got to be calm.
I ended up
basically slowly
chasing him all the way to the laundry room
down the pathway at my apartment complex
and finally managed to grab him
and brought him inside. And he was
kind of struggling and then he started
scratching me right when I got him through the door.
So I had to throw him into the kitchen
and slam the back door behind me.
And for some reason
it didn't even occur to me that he might be injured because i was just like okay cats are
resilient this is only from the second story he's probably okay and luckily he was but like i did
some reading on the internet afterwards and he definitely could have hurt himself but fortunately
he was okay and he was just like a little bit dazed yeah just sort of like wait i was uh upstairs and now where
the hell am i yeah yeah i was gonna i was gonna say because i don't know where i learned this
but i remember learning about terminal velocity specifically in cats and there's something about
i don't know why they were using this example i almost spit my coffee everywhere i could just sit as soon as you said that but
there's something about cats cats falling from a lower level is actually more dangerous because
it doesn't give them time to relax into the fall like the reason they can survive from high falls
is because they like know to relax their their muscles or whatever. Oh, my God. And so they can survive from a nine-story fall
easier than they can from a three-story fall.
Yeah, and from higher up,
they reach a point where they stop accelerating, basically.
Yeah.
They become just a little shoop, shoop.
Yeah.
Yeah, like a little feather, just like...
Like little flying squirrels.
They open their legs and they just parachute down.
Well, apparently the danger spot is
floors two through seven.
That is a big danger spot.
I know, right? That's like
how many people really live above the seventh floor?
Like, not that many.
So yeah, I guess
from floor two, he could have been hurt, but he was
okay. Oh, thank goodness.
I just like
monitored him for a few days afterwards yeah that exact scenario happened to my boyfriend one of his
cats years ago that um yeah did he was like trying to get a bug or a bird or something and like went
up to the screen it just went and the whole thing fell and fell out the window. I have to figure out how to
cat-proof the apartment, I guess.
It's been in LA.
I don't know if you guys are both in LA, but it's been
97 the past two days.
So all your windows are open.
Yeah, but now they're closed because I'm like,
the cat's going to fall out the damn window again.
For the last two days, I just
had the windows closed and the fans on.
I've basically just been sweating in here.
The things we do.
But I have a couple of balcony-level windows that are okay.
Even if they got out, they wouldn't fall.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm just kind of figuring it out now.
Figuring out how I'm going to...
I'm looking around, looking at all these potentially dangerous terminal velocity windows.
Oh, man.
Damn.
Well, I'm glad everybody's cats were okay.
I was going to say, scary week for our cats here.
Scary week for cats.
And Reza, speaking of scary, what are your feelings on scary movies in general?
Do you like them?
Do you hate them?
So I wouldn't say I hate them, but I've never been a big fan of them.
I think I had a few that like scared me really badly when I was a kid.
And then it just kind of put me off of them.
I don't even know if I was that I wasn't like a little kid when I saw the sixth sense, but I was like young enough to be like really scared by it.
And I guess I had a pretty overactive imagination for a young child. And so I like totally imagined after that, like, I forget her name.
It was the girl from the OC, like coming out from under the bed.
Yes, Misha Barton.
That part scared the shit out of me with her vomit coming out of her mouth.
Yeah. So for like, probably like a few weeks after I saw that movie,
I would like jump into my bed instead of like,
I'd like jump out of it like far enough so that an arm couldn't grab me.
Yeah.
Like a good three feet.
Yeah.
Can you imagine?
It must not,
it doesn't,
I don't think it happens often,
but I can imagine nothing scarier than something grabbing your ankle.
Do you know what I mean?
One time I backed up to my bed
and I didn't know my cat was under it
and I like got her tail
and she freaked out
and like grabbed my ankle
and I've never screamed louder in my entire life.
It scared the shit out of me.
Like I thought I lost it.
And a human hand?
Get out of here.
Hell no.
It's scary.
And I mean,
I guess that's what makes that movie so good
is that you have these kind of like high concept horror stuff with ghosts and the supernatural but
then you have something as simple as an arm grabbing you which is like very effective in
that scene um so yeah that that's one movie that i can remember really scaring me as a kid
um and then there are a lot of exceptions to
horror for me. If anything involves science
fiction, I'm usually down.
The first Alien movie,
I don't know if you even class that as horror. It's more like a slasher.
Yeah. Oh, it's so good.
I've really been enjoying Raised by
Wolves lately, which has a lot of horror
and thriller elements. Oh, I've
heard about that. I gotta check that out.
And do you know, is that like because
do you think you're able to sort of disassociate
in that like, well, that is another universe
that's never going to happen to me? Or is it not
even just like you're
interested enough in the world to
be okay with the scares that come
with it? I think it's the world. I think it's
the world building and like sci-fi concepts
just really interest me.
So I will like make an exception there.
I was too scared to watch X-Files as a kid
and then I became a big X-Files fan as an adult
and went back and watched the whole series.
So, yeah, I don't know.
I guess it's not that I'm averse to horror movies
but then I know a lot
of modern horror
kind of relies on gore
and a lot of human suffering
which still kind of affects me as an adult.
Yeah. Interesting.
You're affected by human suffering.
Yeah, I know, right?
That feels crazy, honestly.
So I remember my friends describing
the hostile movies to me
or trying to watch the
Saw movies and just being like,
man, watching people get tortured
was probably not my thing.
But if the film has
an interesting
plot or concept, I
can't help myself and only to watch it
or at the very least read the Wikipedia
summary to figure out what happened.
We get it. Yeah, we listen to this podcast.
Now I know you guys are recapping stuff.
There you go.
That's what we do. And can I say, if you don't like people getting tortured,
I don't recommend the Michael Bay film Pain and Gain.
Okay.
See, when you were describing that, I was like,
I also remember seeing the trailers for that and thinking
that it was some kind of a goofy heist comedy or something.
But I guess it's a little bit heavier than that by the sound of it.
It's tough.
We're not going to talk.
We're not going to talk anymore about it.
But just, you know.
Let's just drop Payne again.
It's not.
We're turning over a new leaf.
We're turning over a new leaf.
And that is what we do in the shadows, which I'm very curious why you picked this movie in particular.
Yeah, I just really love this movie. And I think I really love everything that this little group of New Zealand comics and filmmakers has put out over the last decade or so.
Starting with probably Flight of the Conchords was my introduction to them.
And then I think it was What We Do in the Shadows where I first discovered Taika Waititi.
And then going back, I realized that he'd actually written and directed several episodes of Flight of the
Conchords and that this
whole world of like Jermaine and
Taika and Rhys Darby is kind of this
New Zealand comedy troupe that's just been making
a lot of stuff together all the way up till
now
I just finished Our Flag Means Death
which I found very delightful and hilarious
Oh good to know
They're so great.
They're the best, man.
I love Boy and Hunt for the Wilder People.
They just don't miss.
They just don't miss.
They make a lot of good shit.
It's also interesting.
I feel like this can't possibly be true,
but every person I know, in LA at least,
who's from New Zealand knows each
other in a way and like and not
I don't know them through the same circles it's like
everybody I know from New Zealand knows everybody
else I know from New Zealand and so it's
like it makes sense that all the best
creators in New Zealand as far as I
know know each other and make stuff together
because I guess I guess it's tight knit
community
yeah but then in like a broader sense
I think I really love
Like horror
Send up or like light-hearted
Horror concepts that are translated
Into comedy
Actually I love it so much that my first graphic novel
That I wrote is about
A group of monsters, a vampire
A ghost and a Bigfoot type monster
That live in a city together.
And this was like heavily
influenced by what we do in the shadows.
Ah, so cool!
City monster. City
monster, check it out.
And yeah, actually I made the
I tried to like kind of replicate
like an old timey universal monster
movie poster for the cover.
Yeah, totally.
I mean, everybody should get to enjoy
monsters. Monsters are cool.
Yeah, I also love Halloween.
I just love spooky stuff.
But usually like fun spooky stuff
that has a light hearted. Like the song
Monster Mash. That's my shit.
That song? It's your favorite song?
Yeah, it's my favorite.
It's what I listen to every morning when i wake up
favorite song oh wow well let me tell us a little bit about what we do in the shadows give you some
stats yes uh it has a 96 on rotten tomatoes so people agree we're in agreement here this is a
great movie uh 76 on metacritic that's still pretty good though for metacritic and 7.7
on imdb which is very high for imdb yep uh the budget was 1.6 million and it made 7.3 million
it initially didn't do well in new zealand and so distribution to the u.s was canceled if you
can believe it whoa and i guess they were able to able to do screenings at festivals in the U.S.
And they did a Kickstarter fundraising campaign.
And that was how they were able to bring it to the U.S.
And it's obviously such a popular movie now.
And it just seems crazy that it ever wouldn't have done well.
Like, what?
It's so good.
When did it come out?
What year?
Oh, sorry. 2014.
I did not write that down
like a freaking dummy.
No, she's not a dummy.
I also didn't realize that it had not
done well initially, but
I guess, I don't know, would it be considered
a cult film? It feels like everybody who likes
film has seen it. Yeah.
Certainly before the show was made, it was more of a cult. And I feel like everybody who likes film has seen it. Yeah. Certainly before the show was made
it was more of a cult.
And I feel like cult movies I think of
as like word of mouth type movies. Like it's
kind of movie that people are just like talking about a lot.
And I feel like when it came out it was very much that.
It was just like you got to see
this movie. It's so good. It's so good.
I haven't seen it in a while.
Yeah. I'm sure a lot of people are going
back to it now that the show is pretty popular.
Yeah.
And the show is excellent as well.
Yeah.
The show is also excellent.
Love the show.
Yeah.
And it was interesting.
I also hadn't seen the movie in a while.
So it was interesting seeing like it's not a direct remake or anything.
It's like a it's a whole new story with a new set of vampires.
But they take a lot of the concepts and translate them over.
Or like a lot of the characteristics of certain them over or like a lot of the characteristics
of certain characters are like brought over
and combined into other characters
totally it's the same world
but in Staten Island
Staten Island
Staten Island
they say it's so funny
for this movie they shot
125 hours of footage
most of which was improvised.
And the process of editing it down to a 90 minute movie took almost a year.
Oh, what a nightmare.
I know.
Oh my God.
Editing that much improvised footage.
Oh.
Uh, and they said that the direct or the director said that they are considering making all
the footage available online so that fans can edit their own version.
And as an editor, I'm like, that sounds awful.
Why would anybody want to do that?
But I'm sure people will.
You know how people like edit down Lord of the Rings into like one shorter movie?
I feel like some people do like that.
Do people do that?
Yes, people do do it.
And I feel like it just sounds so bad.
And why are we doing that?
Wow.
Didn't like Tobey Maguire make a fan edit of the
three Star Wars prequels?
Yes. Yeah.
That's right. That is correct. And it's apparently like a really
popular fan edit.
Wow. That's very... Well, I
guess, you know, Tobey I get.
You know, he's got money and time
probably, you know? But like the rest of us...
Come on. What are we doing?
Oh, wait. Was it Tobey Maguire
or was it the guy from that 70s show?
Topher Grace. I think it was Topher Grace.
They get mixed up a lot.
Oh, not Tobey.
Topher. And you know what? My comment still
stands. Makes sense for
Topher too. So Tobey, if you want to, I
think you also can.
Do it with the Spider-Mans. Yeah.
And then there's like some New Zealandaland well lord of the rings kind of base trivia that because lord of the rings was filmed in new
zealand famously famously the the building that is used for the exterior of the house that the
vampires live in was peter jackson's office when he was filming Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson working from a vampire house.
That's right.
That's right.
And the hill that the vampires run into werewolves on is where Frodo and the Hobbits are running
from the Black Rider and hiding under the roots of a tree.
I can picture it perfectly.
I can as well.
And then the last piece of trivia is, I just thought this was kind of funny.
They lost a charred skeleton body during this shoot that they throw into the harbor for a funeral scene.
The scene didn't end up in the film, but they didn't realize that it was drifting away.
And it was so realistic looking that they had to send out a press release that in case these
like charred remains got found that it's a prop oh my god so i hope so i don't hope this would
be bad but imagine someone who's like okay this is my week to burn a body anybody want to send
out charred remains it's now's the time so good cover good cover i've been waiting for this perfect perfect way to hide my my body that
i've been looking to dispose of yeah yeah i'll burn it perfect oh boy oh boy um vampires are so
fun do you know what i mean vampires are very give me a vampire story i just i love all the
different interpretations of vampires i love the lore surrounding vampires.
I just like really...
And I don't think I did.
I know I didn't prior to this podcast
and certainly not prior to my friendship with you, Sammy,
and our friend Jenna.
I've really gotten on board with vampires.
And boy, are they fun.
Vampires are the best.
This is probably like the most fun vampire movie because
vampires are always cool
and sexy and
confident. I don't think I've seen a lot
of interpretations of vampires where
they're kind of naive dorks,
which is the case with this movie.
And so from another
time. I love how... We'll get into it.
I love how much they play up that these are
from... They don't exist in this modern day reality, but they also do like even, you know, like in Twilight, which, you know, we love so much.
They act like modern day people, even though they're from another time.
And these guys just really don't.
And I truly love it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not not super trying to blend in they really like um they
really play up the concept of actually being that old of a creature and still trying to like keep
your shit together um and how that's that's probably not possible yeah oh my god okay let's
free let's get into oh wait we got to watch the trailer let's watch this trailer let's watch the
trailer and then we'll get into it. Okay. I just got too excited.
It's been like this the whole time.
Deacon on dishes and it still hasn't moved in five years.
You're a cool guy, but you're not pulling your weight in the flat.
Oh, I'm glad to hear that I'm cool.
No, that's not the point though.
Yeah.
No, I know. I know.
Flat meeting about how cool you are.
point though yeah no i know i know that meeting about how cool you are when you get three vampires in a flat obviously there's going to be a lot of tension viago was an 18th century dandy look
a ghost cat vladislav is a bit of a pervert this is my torture chamber
deacons like the young bad boy of the group. I'm supposed to pay rent, but I don't.
The trouble with being a vampire is you have to be invited in.
I'm coming to the bar.
Please, please walk down.
Will you invite us in?
We need some fresh blood.
Hi, my name is Nick. I've been a vampire for two months.
My friend Richie's a bouncer. He'll invite us in.
Gentlemen, you are most welcome.
Nick is so much fun.
I'm a vampire.
Vampire! Vampire!
Such a dick.
Nick, why don't you use the front door?
Do you want to draw attention to this house, hmm?
We've got a whole documentary crew following you around.
You led a vampire hunt into our house.
I don't need a man. I just got my email.
I'm going to kill you. I'm already dead.
You will not eat the camera guy. Maybe one camera guy.
I'm trying to take it. Use your legs. Wow. God damn, it become very sexy.
God damn, it's so good.
I need to watch it again immediately.
I will probably watch it tonight.
Man, I don't know if we all watch the same one,
but there was a lot of kind of spoilers in that trailer.
There often are.
Yeah.
It happens.
It happens.
But there is a lot of great accents also. Oh often are. Yeah. It happens. It happens. But there is
a lot of great accents also.
Oh, the accents. Oh my god.
What a plethora of accents. I love
it. I absolutely love it.
I'm glad that we still got a lot of the New Zealand
accent though.
Because the New Zealand accent is
just delightful and everything is
funnier with it. It's so fun. I know. It really is.
I feel like it's a hard one to do. I just
so easily slip into that Australian accent
and New Zealand is
just a little different. I remember
once literally looking up a YouTube video
of how to differentiate between the
two and one of the
examples they gave was the difference between
the way they say pen
and Australian. It would be
pin. Pin? Oh. And in Australian, it would be pin.
Pin.
Oh.
And in New Zealand, it'd be pin, pun.
Okay.
It was like this E sound.
Pin.
I do remember in Flight of the Conchords,
there was a running guy where people would call Brit.
Brit.
I think he may be deed.
And their American friend would be like,
maybe he did what?
No, I think he may be deed.
Maybe he did, maybe he he didn't I don't know
God it's so good and that when
Aziz thinks that they're from
Australia and then
They realize that he's from New Zealand he doesn't hate them
Anymore he's being like really racist against them because he thinks they're
Australian and then he finds out they're from New Zealand
And I think it's
Jermaine who's like no they're like where's
The car and we're like where's the car? And we're like, where's
the car?
It's so, so good.
I freaking love Flight of the Conchords.
Oh my god, but I also really love this movie
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Well, one thing that I realized rewatching this movie that I don't know if I realized at the time
was just that there's not really like a central plot necessarily. It's more like a central premise.
125 hours of footage.
Yeah. And I guess that makes sense now that I know how much of it was improvised. But it's
more like a central premise with a bunch of little subplots extending off of it.
The subplots being like the individual desires and motivations of each of the main vampires.
And it's also filmed mockumentary style, which
I think the lack of a central plot kind of goes along with that because it's more like
we're just watching days in the lives of these characters.
So, the film starts off with kind of a typical Hollywood wake up scene where an alarm goes
off and a guy wakes up except he's a vampire and he rises out of his coffin and it's taika waititi playing um viago uh it's the name of his character and then he
basically like wakes up all his flatmates and we learn that there is these four vampires living
together and they're all kind of like old traditional vampires from the old world or
the ancient world um taika waititi's character is like 400 years old.
Jemaine Clement is like an 800-year-old vampire type Dracula.
There's a character called Peter who's 8,000 years old,
and he's basically Nosferatu.
And then there's the young, cool, hip vampire who's 186 or something like that.
And that's Deacon, who's kind of like the cool bad boy of the group.
The cool bad boy of the group.
Yeah.
That was good.
That was not great.
I feel like I can only do Deacon.
What does Deacon say?
I'm glad to hear you think that I'm cool.
He's the cool bad boy of the group.
Yeah, that's all you heard in that conversation.
Yeah.
And one of the few actual
jump scare parts of the
movie takes place right at the beginning
when Viago
goes to wake up Peter, the ancient
8,000-year-old vampire who
sleeps in a stone sarcophagus.
And he
wakes up and jumps. There's. There's like a little bit
of a jump scare when he opens his eyes.
I remembered it scaring me the
first time I saw it. I haven't seen this since
it came out and I, in this
scene, like the second I saw it happen, I started
tensing. I was like, there's a scary part coming.
I know.
Actually,
a few of the scares
in the movie are centered around the Peter character, who we mentioned how aging as a vampire is actually kind of addressed in an almost serious way in this movie.
Peter is basically like a feral animal at this point and doesn't talk. And he's just like this decrepit old,
like a pale thing living in a,
in a stone sarcophagus.
And his makeup is like,
his,
he looks scary.
His teeth are gnarly.
Yeah.
He's like,
yeah,
very Nosferatu looking and has not just like two vampire teeth.
He has like a full mouth of fangs.
Yeah. In a different movie he would probably be a very scary character yes
I remember yeah he was scary and so anyway yeah we meet all these vampires
we find out that they all live together in modern-day Wellington New Zealand
they've all arrived in New Zealand for various reasons.
We find out that...
Oh, my cat's knocking stuff over.
We find out that Viago came to New Zealand in the 1910s
to pursue the love of his life,
who there was a bit of a mix-up and he shipped himself
or he had his familiar ship him in like a crate by sea to New Zealand.
And he ended up taking 18 months to get there because his familiar put the wrong postage
on the box.
So, he totally missed the opportunity to reconnect with the love of his life in New Zealand.
So, he just let her go.
And now he just lives with his friends basically in this flat.
And yeah, so we find out that they basically,
they obviously spend all day sleeping and then
at night they go out and try to
be like cool, sexy vampires
and like go to nightclubs and stuff.
But the nightclubs that they go to, they either can't
get into them or they can go to like this
one really lame bar that
vampires own so they can go to it.
And it's like, it's painted
as this, you think it's going to be this cool
like true blood-esque vampire
nightclub and it just turns out to basically be like
a dive bar with a dartboard on the wall
and nobody in there
I love how in this movie they also
people are always calling out that they look
crazy like they don't know how to dress
they're 400 years old
and so they wear like insane
clothes and people treat them like
they're total freaks. They're just
so funny. There's such a great
scene of them not
knowing what they look like because they don't have
reflections. So like
before they go out to the bars
they have to do little fashion
shows in front of each other and
there's like a scene where Vlad
is trying something
on and Deacon is drawing
the shittiest picture of him and
like showing turning it and showing it to him like that's
what you look like and yeah they're
not inconspicuous at all like they go out
in like huge furs and like top hats
it's so funny
yeah they I mean
they look pretty good by like street wear
standards maybe yeah oh now they be on the like watching New York Instagram account for sure.
Yes. Yes.
Fashion week. Totally.
For sure.
But the, I actually really appreciated how much effort Deacon put into his drawings. Like he, he really tried, even though he's not a great artist.
Yeah. I mean, that's all they've got. They can't, they can't look in the mirror. So they got to rely on those drawings. And they also aren't aware of like digital cameras or webcams at this point.
That comes later.
So they can't like look into a webcam or anything like that.
But anyway, so we kind of like in the first half hour or whatever, we kind of get a sense of how they live currently, which is basically just being really out of touch and
old and not understanding the modern world, but still
trying to fit in. And they go out at
night trying to find victims, which is
their relationship with their
victims is pretty horrific,
but it's played for comedic effect.
So there's one point where we see Jermaine
Clement trying to suck a woman's
blood and it goes... Oh no, it wasn't Jermaine.
It was Taika trying to suck a woman's blood. And it goes horribly oh, no, it wasn't Jermaine. It was Taika trying to suck a woman's blood.
And it goes like horribly wrong.
There's blood all over the place.
And it's actually like very disturbing, but it's all played for laughs, basically.
Yeah.
He's he's saying how he takes this woman home and chatting like her thinking they're on
a date and she's just like gone home with this guy and he's laying newspaper down on the ground around her as they're talking because he doesn't want to make a
mess and then he accident he's and he's asking her about herself she's like yeah i've got this
uh trip planned to europe i've never been and he's i'm so excited and you see like viago looking
really sad to hear this and he's like oh well, and then he pulls her hair back and bites her neck and hits the main artery and it just sprays blood everywhere. And it is like horrifying. But it also is very funny. It's just she's just bumbling and failing at being a vampire often. i feel like yeah they're just not they're
not the cool slick vampires is is yeah they're not they they mess up a lot but then another
funny part of this world is that the the general public seems like blissfully unaware of even the
weird things they do like for instance that his date when he's laying the newspaper down is just
like completely unaware that anything bad is going to happen.
Which is like another thing that plays in
with like a few
members of the public interacting with them.
And they just, for some reason, all of the weird
things they do kind of go over everybody's heads.
And I guess that's why vampires can still
exist in secret in this world is because
people at large seem a little bit dumb
in this universe.
We're all in our own worlds, you know?
Yeah, nobody's expecting them to be vampires.
Why would they be expecting that?
Yeah, exactly.
So, yeah, we get a sense of their lives as they've been living them for, like,
I don't know, since the early 1900s when they came to New Zealand.
And then we meet Jackie, who is Deacon's familiar, a familiar being like a vampire thrall, basically a servant to a vampire who is serving the vampire in hopes that they get turned into a vampire themselves and gain immortal life.
So Jackie is like this mother of two kids, just kind of like an ordinary New Zealand woman who she like is very
deadpan and plays the character really
straight like she's she completely
overlooks all the horrific and terrible
things that they do because she also
wants to be a vampire and
she basically has to like clean up the gore
from their murder scenes and
try to find victims for them
so one of the plot
points comes in when they ask Jackie to find two find victims for them. So one of the plot points comes in
when they ask Jackie to find two virgins for them.
And she supposedly finds two virgins who are,
one of them is her ex-boyfriend
and one of them is a girl who like
made fun of her in primary school.
So she almost finds people who she doesn't like very much
and won't miss when they eventually get killed
by the vampires.
It's a smart way to play it.
Yeah, so those are the two people she picks.
And then she brings them to a dinner
with the vampires.
And
at one point, I guess
they turn
the guy's spaghetti into worms.
Like, they hypnotize him, and that's...
We see one of their vampire powers.
And the guy's name is nick and he i guess eventually they they all turn on him and they start chasing him through the house
after the dinner um they kill his friend and they chase him and that's like another one of the
semi-scary parts of the film like again, in a different context, it would be a scary movie. It's like
they're chasing this guy
through this dark house
and it's only filmed by
a single cam, a mockumentary
style camera. So it feels kind of Blair Witch-esque
or something. Right. It's very
frantic and something scary
is happening each way he looks.
It's very disorienting and
he's just panicking more
and more. And then eventually
you think he's going to be scot-free
and he gets out of the house. And then
Peter, the 8,000-year-old vampire,
feral vampire, comes out of nowhere and
tackles him and it's like end of scene.
And all the other vampires are like, oh no, Peter
got him. Their fun is ruined because
Peter got him. One of the things
he sees when he's running,eter got him one of the things one of the things he sees
when he's running he like looks in one of the rooms and there's a cat meow and he sees a cat
with jermaine clement's face and there's like a little mention of it earlier that uh vladislav
is his character's name that his powers have been dwindling a bit since his
confrontation with the beast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so his powers aren't strong.
They were like, he used to be able to turn into animals and now he just can't really
get the face right anymore.
So there's this shot of a cat with a human face and it's, oh man, it's very funny.
It was a great little set up and payoff
especially because the cut
to the cat with Jermaine's face
is like very brief and it's like
a total laugh out loud moment.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's the end of the scene there.
Nick gets killed. Both of the
virgins who actually turn out
to not be virgins who Jackie brought to the vampires, they both get killed. Both of the virgins, who actually turn out to not be virgins, who Jackie brought to the vampires,
they both get killed.
But then later
on, it's
two months later or something like that,
and it's revealed
that Nick, the guy who
came to the dinner and was supposedly
killed, is actually alive, and that Peter, the
ancient vampire, had just turned him into a vampire.
And that introduces one of the points of conflict into the film, which is that Peter
also turned Deacon, like the young, cool rebel vampire, into a vampire. So, he's kind of like
Peter's father figure or whatever, or Deacon's father figure. And now Peter has made a new
vampire who's like even younger and cooler. Nick is like this cool, hip
young guy who like goes to clubs and stuff
and so there's some tension.
Younger, cooler, badder.
Yeah, exactly. So Nick is now
like this two-month-old vampire. He's the youngest
vampire in the crew and
the crew
kind of like accepts him and lets him
live in the house and hang out with them
but he starts being able to get
them into all the bars and clubs in
Wellington that they've been wanting to go to.
Because you have to be invited into the club
as a vampire. You have to be invited into
whatever, buildings.
So he gets invites in. And so there's
a bunch of tension with Deacon being like,
oh, I'm not the cool one anymore. This cool guy
is getting us into clubs now.
But the problem with Nick is that he's going around
bragging about being a vampire to everybody
because he's just kind of like... He won't shut up
about it. Yeah. He's just kind of like brash
and arrogant and he's telling everybody he's a vampire
drunkenly.
And he tells one guy he's a vampire and the
guy's like, oh, I'm a vampire hunter.
And we don't really think anything of it. But
then that sets up another plot point
later, which is that at some point, this vampire hunter shows up and actually manages to kill Peter,
the ancient vampire, by opening a window and burning him with sunlight.
But the vampire hunter also gets killed when Peter pushes his sarcophagus lid onto him and crushes him.
So Peter has like one last moment of badassery and then
the vampire hunter actually ends up killing him. And then
all the other vampires are very angry
at Nick, the young
vampire, for getting their old
friend killed. And Deacon
especially takes it very poorly. And then
Deacon and Nick start fighting.
And then there's a funny
scene where the police show up and
they're like responding to a domestic disturbance
and Viago has to hypnotize them
so that they don't notice anything is wrong
and then they end up like walking around the house
and seeing all these weird things
but they just they can't actually acknowledge any of it
because they've been hypnotized
they keep like almost calling it out
and being like what's this over here
what's this over here
and they're like over a dead body
or like the burned bones
and they're like,
these cans of paint don't have lids on them. That's a
fire hazard. That's like something
else in that area that they're looking at.
A lot of fake outs because
Viago's nervous because his powers of
hypnosis aren't as strong or
whatever. Yeah.
So they basically
keep hinting like they're going to see
something out of the ordinary, but it's always just like
a safety violation.
Like they, you think they're going to notice
the vampires floating in the corner of a room
and then they're just like, hey, there's no smoke
detectors in here.
And apparently these two characters
have like a spin-off
TV show called Wellington Paranormal,
which I had heard of and I didn't realize
that that was
what that show was based on.
So now I'm going to have to watch that show.
Yeah, I think there were a couple of
proposed spinoffs.
That one actually got made. There was another one called
We're Wolves based on the werewolves
in this film. Yes, I was going to ask about
that. Is that still happening? I tried
to look. From what. Yes, I was going to ask about that. Is that still happening? I tried to look.
From what I saw, it was still in production.
Yeah.
Or maybe it's been stalled or something.
And I think there's something about Taika and Jemaine saying that it took them like
10 years to make What We Do in the Shadows.
So, maybe it'll take like another 10 to make like a follow-up film to it.
Yeah.
So, yeah, maybe we'll take like another 10 to make like a follow-up film to it. Yeah.
So, yeah. Maybe we'll see that at some point. But that's another thing I forgot to mention
is that like maybe halfway through the film, we're introduced to a group of werewolves
who also live in Wellington.
On that hill from Lord of the Rings.
Yeah.
On that very hill.
And they're led by Rhys Darby, who's the alpha wolf of the pack. Who is very funny.
They're not like the
werewolves who are trying
not to be werewolves, basically.
They're not aggressive.
They try not to swear.
They try not to get into fights.
We're werewolves, not swearwolves.
We're werewolves, not swearwolves.
Not swearwolves.
It seems like Rhys Darby's character Anton
is like trying to
get them to be more civilized basically
or like not randomly kill people
so yeah we're
introduced to them like earlier in the film
then they come back later on
there's also Nick has a friend
named Stu that we meet
oh yeah of course Stu
who he like he's like stew doesn't know that
i'm a vampire yet and really sucks because like i really want to eat him now but he's my best mate
there's a lot of like to camera confessionals of him working through his friendship with stew and
how they're going to handle it and eventually he has a sit down
chat with Stu where he comes clean
and it's
very funny and Stu
was he's not an actor it's just
a guy a guy that
they cast or I don't know if he was just friends with
them or something but he really was just a
guy that worked in like computers
and that's his job in this
movie and he's so funny in it
oh man yeah I love
that even funnier of a performance
to know that he is just truly like a computer
software guy
yeah I love it
some of the funniest interactions in the movie
come like from Stu
because he's once Nick
becomes accepted into the household and
reveals everything to Stu Stu becomes accepted into the household and reveals everything to Stu, Stu becomes accepted into the household as well.
And he basically plays the role of like younger guy who introduces all the
vampires to technology.
So he like shows them digital cameras and YouTube and they're able to like
watch the sunrise on YouTube,
which is something they haven't seen since they turned into vampires.
And there's actually like a very cute relationship that they have with Stu where they kind of
see him as like a little brother or something and all of them agree not to eat Stu.
And they're all just very sweet to him.
I think one of the funniest scenes was when Nick is talking to Peter in his sarcophagus and
outlining his relationship
with Stu and the fact that all the other guys have
agreed not to eat Stu and that like he
knows it's wrong to have a human in the house
but he's wondering if Peter could just be chill
with it and not eat Stu and Peter
has no dialogue in the entire movie
and the one time you actually see him like
acknowledge a conversation is that
when Nick's like very sweetly like, can we just please not eat him?
He just like nods.
And like, that's the most communication we get from Peter, basically.
But it's just like, it's funny seeing this like ancient feral vampire totally acknowledging and also being like agreeing to be sweet towards Stu.
Amazing.
Who's just like this very soft spoken, nice guy.
Who's also totally accepting of all the vampires.
So yeah, Stu.
He's probably one of the funniest characters
just because of how understated he is.
Yeah, he's the best.
So yeah, after the whole confrontation
between Nick and Deacon over Peter's death
and the police come, the police leave,
and then there's a time skip.
Oh, and they all agree to banish Nick from the
house for telling people he's a vampire
and getting Peter killed so Nick
is banished
Stu can still come over when he wants to
but then there's a time
skip and I think it's like
a few months later and
the vampire house gets an invitation
to something called the unholy
masquerade,
which is like a big meeting slash like fancy ball for all of the undead in
Wellington.
And I realized that the unholy masquerade is actually teased really early on
in the movie.
There's like a little script that comes up right at the beginning.
There's like some introductory text.
That's like this camera crew got unprecedented
access to a secret society before
the unholy masquerade.
Yeah, exactly. But then we don't hear anything
about the unholy masquerade until like again, until
the last third of the movie, basically, which
again goes along with like you
think that's going to be the plot of the film, but there's
really not a plot. It's just like people
having their own little dramas
throughout the movie.
But then we find out about the unholy masquerade again, like in the last act of the film basically.
And they're all excited except for Vladislav who was expecting to be the guest of honor.
And I should point out that Vladislav is basically like supposed to be Dracula. He was this medieval tyrant who
became a vampire and he's called Vlad the Poker as opposed to Vlad the Impaler because he pokes
people. There's a really funny scene where Stu shows him Facebook and he finds out about the
poke function and he's like, yes, let's do that. But anyway, he's like
really expecting to be the guest of honor
at the
unholy masquerade but then he
finds out that the guest of honor is in fact
going to be his nemesis, the beast
who he had some great confrontation with
many years ago and since
that confrontation where he lost to the beast
he's not been the same. He can't do the
faces right on animals anymore.
And so
he gets really depressed.
And while the other guys are getting ready
for the ball, he basically sinks
deeper and deeper into a depression. And we see
him age really badly.
All his hair starts falling out and his skin
turns gray and his nails get really long.
And he's kind of starting to turn into
what Peter looked like. Like a
Nosferatu type vampire. It's like
he's losing the
will to hang on to
the afterlife basically. And so
they go to the ball without
him. They try to convince
him to come and he says, leave me to do
my dark bidding. And
they're like, what? And he's
bidding on eBay and they're like, what he's bidding on ebay and they're like
what are you bidding on and he's like it's a table yeah that was a pretty good pretty good
little joke there they really got me leave me to do my dark bidding on this table but yeah they
leave him to do his dark bidding and they go off to the ball. And at the ball, they run into Nick and Stu. Nick, being the bad boy rebel that he is, has brought his human friend Stu to a party where humans are not allowed.
realizes that Stu is a human.
They think he might be a male witch or something.
So they kind of give him a pass until we meet the beast of Vladislav's great rival, who turns out to be his ex-girlfriend, Pauline.
And she's there with her new boyfriend, Julian.
I thought her name is Pauline.
Yeah, Pauline and Julian.
The most unassuming names.
And they're like these old vampires.
And she's the guest of honor.
And she kind of picks up on the fact that Stu is a human.
And then everybody else at the party, which also includes werewolves and zombies and witches,
start to realize that Stu is a human.
And this party starts to get kind of scary
for Stu as all the undead
decide that they want to eat him and also
the human camera crew who the
vampires have brought with them.
Throughout the entire film, there's a human
camera crew following them around.
It's very fun.
It acknowledges that there's a documentary going on.
There's a documentary crew following these guys
including to this top secret
meeting of the secret society
that they're not allowed to be at.
And so the tension rises at the
ball as all of the undead
start to turn on the humans and
slowly approach them menacingly.
And then it seems like
it's probably going to be over for Stu
and then Vladislav shows up
out of nowhere and stops everybody.
And he's dressed very decadently in like a whole white suit with a white top hat and a mask.
Or no, he's not wearing a top hat, but he has his hair done up like Gary Oldman in Dracula.
I tried to look up what that hairstyle is called because it must have a name.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's like two... Yeah, you know those like bump-its that you can make your little
ponytail really big with?
It's like two little bumps on his head.
It's so funny.
He struts in like he just is really feeling himself and he looks incredible.
Yeah, he looks incredible.
He's gone from like aging really rapidly to I guess he got his groove back and he struts
in looking like himself again.
And then Pauline's like, who the hell are you to stop me from meeting this human?
And then she like doesn't recognize him and he's like, you don't recognize your past lover?
And she says some name like Patrick or something?
And he's like, no, like five years before that.
So, she has a lot of ex-lovers. And he struggles to
take his mask off to reveal who he actually is.
And he finally does. He's like, I am
Vladislav. And so, he's
there. And then
I don't remember exactly. I think
he gets into a fight with her.
He gets into a fight with her new boyfriend
Julian. Yes. Who like steps
up and then they're about to, they're like facing off and about to start
fighting.
And the whole unholy masquerade is going to descend into chaos.
And then out of nowhere, Stu steps up with a flagpole and like impales Julian, the new
boyfriend, through the back with this flagpole and kind of saves Vlad from getting into a
fight.
Yeah, I guess Vlad was on his back
about to get killed by Julian and then
Stu totally saved him, which was pretty
badass for the only human at this
party full of
powerful monsters. And I guess
they all just flee from there. They flee, yeah.
Yeah, they flee.
They run to what looks
very much like the hill from Lord of the Rings, where they run into the werewolves again. And the werewolves being like, they're trying, again, they're trying to be responsible werewolves. They're all busy chaining themselves to trees as they're about to transform because it's the full moon.
because it's the full moon.
They're changing themselves to trees and Rhys Darby is there directing the whole thing.
And he's getting really annoyed with them
because several of them have forgotten to wear their
track pants, which would give them enough
room for their legs to grow into.
Instead, they're all wearing skinny jeans.
And he's like, those jeans are going to be destroyed after this.
They're going to be ruined.
And he's just doing his typical Rhys Darby.
I'm not even going to try to do the New Zealand accent,
but he's just like,
he's playing the doting
like parent of the group basically.
And he's like, you guys have messed up.
I'm really disappointed in you.
And he's like swearing because he's stressed out.
They're all like, I thought we weren't swear wolves.
Oh, so good.
So anyway, but then they're interrupted
by the vampires. And so none of them actually
successfully chain themselves to the tree.
And then as they're kind of like getting into a face-off with the vampires again, they all start to transform.
And they all transform into werewolves.
And it's a really scary scene because the werewolves are actually apparently very dangerous when they're in their werewolf state.
And the vampires have the human camera crew with them and they've got Stu with them
so there's a lot of people in danger here
and they all run and again it's
like another Blair Witch-esque like
running with cameras and like little flashes
lighting up the scene
they're all running from the werewolves and then Stu
gets taken down and
is killed by the werewolves apparently
and disemboweled
and the vampires managed to escape,
but Nick is very bummed out because he's just seen his best friend be killed by
werewolves.
And then there's a nice moment of character growth where Deacon,
who has been like,
like in conflict with Nick since Nick's introduction as the cool new vampire
sits down with Nick and tries to comfort him
about his friend having just been killed.
And we're like, oh, okay.
Deacon has some growth
potential here and he's trying to be the nice
responsible older vampire to Nick now.
But then the way that he tries to comfort
him is very graphic and
vampire-esque. He's
very stark. He's like, this is
just what it's like to be a vampire. All of your friends
die, some of them brutally,
some of them in horrible murders, and
that's just it. But he's saying it in a very
sweet parental tone of voice
the whole time. And I guess he kind of
comforts him. It's also
just such an interesting thing. I feel
like this movie does such a good job of
just, especially when you know it's improvised
and they had so much footage
I'm going to sound like such a fucking loser right
now talking about improv but but the
whole deal with improv the
base level of an idea is if this is true what
else is true and so they just go like okay
great vampires in society if that's
true what else is true and just being like
oh yeah if you're a vampire and you're alive for a really
long time you're going to watch
everyone you know die like you're just over and over and over again.
And just like,
I love how they put every single piece of that puzzle into this movie in
such a good way.
Yeah.
Cause it's true.
It's like, oh yeah,
better get used to watching people you know die.
Cause that's going to happen to everyone you know.
For a comedy.
It really does get into some of the more unfortunate aspects of what being a vampire would be like.
Yeah!
Like losing control of yourself as you get older and watching all your friends die.
There are some really somber moments where they present very starkly what the life of a vampire would actually be, like growing out of touch with society and stuff.
Which we get some hints of in other movies.
I'm thinking of like Only Lovers
Left Alive. There's kind of a thing there where
they're like losing touch with society
as they've gotten older.
Immortality would suck.
Yeah. So it's
interesting seeing those more
serious or like somber moments, but they're still
played for laughs in a lot of cases.
Yeah. It ends with Stu being like,
or with Deacon being like,
if I know Stu, this is probably
how he wanted to die.
Just like brutally
murdered in a field by werewolves.
Just disemboweled by werewolves.
This is probably how he
wanted to go.
Oh, poor Stu.
But then there is
I believe another time skip after that.
Yeah.
And there's like a knock on the door like several months later.
And we see Nick and Stu at the door.
Viago answers at the door and sees Nick and Stu.
And he's very excited to see Stu alive.
And it turns out that Stu actually did not die.
He was just turned into a werewolf by the nice group of werewolves.
And so he's one of the werewolves now.
And he has like cool scars on his face.
And I think Jermaine says that he looks like Seal, which is kind of funny.
There's a funny reenactment too of like what happened.
It takes us back in time to see Stu's transformation and what happened like takes us back in time to see uh uh stew's transformation and like what
happened and it does that kind of um slower black and white footage like a and it says reenactment
underneath it's just like a very funny little documentary style take us back to how it happened
it's very funny so yeah we find out that stew is in fact alive and is now a werewolf and everybody's
very happy and i guess this whole last sequence kind of plays out like an epilogue of sorts.
We find out that Stu is alive.
We find out that Vladislav and Pauline have gotten back together.
But they've unfortunately fallen back into their old ways again of like,
like a love-hate relationship.
Tumultuous.
Yeah, tumultuous.
Their lovemaking turns into like fighting really quickly
and they're like at each other's throats.
So that probably won't work out for them.
But we also find out that Viago,
who earlier in the film was able to track down his long-lost lover
who he originally came to New Zealand from, I think he found her through Facebook or something when Stu shows
them the internet. And he finds out that she lives in this retirement home in Wellington
and she's like 90 now or something, 96.
96, yeah.
And throughout the film, after finding out about that, he's been going and standing
outside her window and looking up at her secretly. And in this epilogue, he finally enters her apartment
and reconnects with her and brings her flowers. And they
fall in love again. And he turns her into a vampire. And so now he has
this 96-year-old girlfriend.
He looks like he's 30 or whatever. And his girlfriend is
96. And there's a joke where he's like,
I know that some people would frown at the age difference,
me being 390 and her being 96.
They can call me cradle snatcher all they want.
I don't care.
We're in love.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, we get like a, throughout the film,
that's kind of been Viago's personal conflict is that he lost his love long ago and he's been pining after ever since.
So he gets a happy ending with her. Vladislav gets a somewhat happy ending with his ex-girlfriend.
Stu gets a happy ending because he's alive and gets to be a a werewolf now Nick is happy
because his best friend is still around and uh Deacon I don't know if he really gets like a
happy ending but I think the like the resolution for him is that he learns to be kind to Nick
basically and be like um more of like an older brother or something rather than a rival
yeah and there's like a new
truce kind of between
werewolves and or this group of werewolves
and vampires too Stu brings
over all the werewolves
from earlier Reese Darby and all of them
and they come inside and say
you know at first it was hard and gross
they smell like dogs but we opened the windows
and the smell eventually went away.
And so they can all be friends.
And yeah, it's a nice.
And it's very appropriate that it's Stu who bridges the gap because everybody loves Stu.
He's so funny.
He also does Stu.
He does have some lines, but he is so straight faced in all of it.
And it's his character is just so funny
it just yeah it's it's perfect it's perfect that everybody loves stew because he's very
much just kind of like there in the corner being like hey yeah i also started to pick up on the
what i think might be my theory is that they based
the energy vampire in the show
slightly on how
Stu would describe the work he does.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's very boring
and deadpan about it. He's like, I'm software
engineering or data
analysis. And it's like everybody
couldn't care less about
what he does when he describes it to them.
I kind of feel like they expanded on that gag to make
the energy vampire in the show. Because otherwise
I'm not sure. The energy vampire has no basis
in the movie. Yeah, no, I think you're right.
That makes a lot of sense. I bet that
they did incorporate that for sure.
Yeah.
So yeah, and I think there's also a
post-credit scene, which I
didn't realize it was there.
And then I read on Wikipedia there's a post-credit scene, which I didn't realize it was there and then I read on Wikipedia there's a post-credit scene
where Deacon tries to hypnotize
the audience into forgetting everything
they've just seen in the movie.
I didn't watch that far, so I missed it as well.
Yeah, me either. That's fun.
I still have The Rental for another
24 hours, so maybe I gotta go back and watch it.
Yes, and that
basically
wraps up the film. I don't know if I'm forgetting anything else
that does make sense because
they gave away a lot of secrets
of this secret society so
a lot of secrets
so they would want to make us forget
some murders a lot of stuff
yeah yeah
again just just leaning
into the fact that it's it's a documentary
and it's like acknowledged throughout the entire film that there's a camera crew there, which is like pretty funny.
So funny.
I love mockumentary style stuff. I know it's been overdone at this point, but good mockumentaries are just wonderful.
Yeah, when it's done well, it really, really works.
I feel like this was like one of, I mean, I don't know. Was this one of the earlier ones? I feel like it was.
I think the office
had been on for a while before this. That's true.
And the British office even was before that.
I don't think it was as pervasive yet.
It was like there had been those successful
ones, but it wasn't the sort of thing where we were like,
okay, I get it. Yeah. It was like
and then it hadn't really been done
very much in popular movies and
since maybe like Best in Show
and This is Final Tap and those maybe like best in show and this is final tap.
And that was like older,
like Rob Reiner movies also,
which are,
which are very hilarious.
Yeah.
So good.
I was a fan of Schitt's Creek for a while.
So seeing like,
you know,
Gene Levy and Catherine O'Hara in best in shows is very entertaining.
Seeing them as a couple.
So good.
Oh my God.
So good.
Oh,
wow.
This,
oh,
wow.
I,
you know what?
This was such a delight this was so much
fun so fun to revisit this i rarely feel this light on my feet after the recording of an episode
of this podcast did i watch pain and gain it's evaporated from my brain it's evaporated from my
brain it's all what we do in the shadows i am thrilled What a delightful film. And yeah, I think it's one that listeners, I think you could, I think you could handle it.
It's a great, a great horror comedy that is not too scary.
Truly, truly one of the very best.
Yeah, I appreciate the podcast making an exception for a more lighthearted film here.
We appreciate it as well.
You all typically go into the scarier stuff, but yeah.
And honestly, seeing some of your
recaps now, I'm really tempted to get more
into the horror genre and go back and watch some of these
films that I've avoided.
Yeah, I mean, that's what you gotta do. You gotta listen to an episode
and decide. It does help to
have heard about it first. If you want to move
forward into visual territory.
Reza, thank you so much for doing this uh this was yeah really really
delightful and i just want to ask you about poorly drawn lines in general i also i know
it's a series now as well and we have betsy sodaro on the podcast a lot and i know she's
a voice in it tell us a little little about Poorly Drawn Lines.
Tell us about it.
Yeah, so it mainly has existed as a webcomic for many years.
I've been doing it for like a little over 10 years now.
And then we adapted it into an animated series for FX's Cake.
And now you can watch the whole series
as a standalone series on Hulu.
It's called Poorly Drawn Lines.
And yeah, it stars Desi Sedaro
as one of the main cast.
We've got
Darcy Carden from The Good Place
as one of the main cast.
Ron Funches
as Kevin, who's one
of my main characters. And also
Tony Revolu from Spider-Man and Grand Budapest Hotel.
And yes, it was a lot of fun to adapt the comic into a TV series,
and I got to write every episode.
And I'm going to do more of it.
We're kind of waiting to see if we'll get to make more.
But if not, I definitely want to do another animated project after this,
probably based on different characters from my comic or something.
That's so fun.
That's awesome.
Okay.
And then where can people find you on,
on line and Instagram and that kind of thing?
You can find me on Instagram at poorly drawn lines,
Instagram.com slash poorly drawn lines.
If you're in our browser,
more likely you'll just search poorly drawn lines
one word on Instagram and I'll pop up.
I'm on Twitter at
PDL Comics and
I'm on Facebook at
the page is just called poorly drawn lines.
And I'm trying to get on TikTok too
but I can't hear the username
yet. It's a challenge, man.
It's so hard. It wasn't
built for us.
We're trying as well. It's hard.
It's harder than it seems like it should be.
It's not intuitive. It would mean pivoting into video,
which is not really my thing outside of
the animation.
I don't really want to make videos myself.
Yeah, it's a lot of work.
I don't know how Gen Z does it.
Yeah.
Okay, great. Well, we've got a lot of freaking accents to choose from here for our sign-off. I don't know how Gen Z does it Yeah Okay great well
We've got a lot of freaking accents
To choose from here for our sign off
We really do
Like I said I can only really do Deacons
I think I could do more but the thing about my accents
Is I need to get into them and
Right you need to remember the lines
And yeah when there's a lot of accents
Happening at once I blend them all together
In my mind and so it's gonna be It's gonna be, but I'm going to give Deacon my best shot.
Here we go.
Okay, okay.
I'm glad to know that you think I am cool.
Okay.
From all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch.
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