Too Scary; Didn't Watch - WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS with Reza Farazmand

Episode Date: April 13, 2022

Put on your finest furs and top-hats and join us at the Unholy Masquerade because this week we are recapping the 2014 mockumentary, What We Do in the Shadows! Joining us to discuss this delig...htful film is the creator of the (equally delightful) comics Poorly Drawn Lines, Reza Farazmand. Check out Reza's comics here:https://poorlydrawnlines.comhttps://www.instagram.com/poorlydrawnlineshttps://twitter.com/PDLComicsTrailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAZEWtyhpesWhat We Do in the Shadows is free on Kanopy or available to rent for $2.99 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I like watching scary movies and I almost got confused and was going to say I'm also too scared because normally Henley would be second. She would be saying that right
Starting point is 00:00:36 now. We can hear it like the phantom voice of her is in our heads. She's not here this week. She is not here this week. We miss her a lot. She'll be back. She's with us in spirit. For now. Did anything scary happen to you this week?
Starting point is 00:00:53 You know, Emily, something scary did happen to me this week. Oh my gosh, I hate to hear it. Something actually scary. It was actually scary. And that is that I had to take my cat to the emergency vet. He had been kind of dry heaving and seeming like he was choking for a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:01:12 And normally you're supposed to take them in right away when that happens. No, with cats, sometimes they're weird, you know, and they go through little spells. And yes, look, you're not a billionaire. How could you possibly take your cat in every time they freaking sneeze? Exactly. I'm waiting until it's really urgent. And my indication of that was when he stopped eating, which is usually a big red flag. And especially for my my bunk. Oh, he's a big boy. He loves to eat. He loves to eat. It's his favorite, favorite time of day every single day. So, yeah, so I took him to the emergency vet and poor little guy had to get X-rays and blood work. And they sedated him and like looked in his throat to see if anything was in there.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And it was he's fine. He's totally fine. It was very expensive. Yeah. I love to spend a lot of money just to be told, well, you know, it'll be fine. Yeah, just monitor him. He's a cat. Just keep a look. Keep an eye. Okay. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:11 I'm happy that I took him because I was worried and it was, you know, worth it for my peace of mind and better than the alternative where something would have been wrong and I wouldn't take him in, which I would never have forgiven myself for. No, that's true. That's tough. tough i'm glad i did it but it was stressful and scary and he's got a little shaved arm now for where they took his blood and a little bit a little bandage it's so cute
Starting point is 00:02:36 oh my sweet little guy he was so um drugged up and really stumbling around the house last night it was really sad and really funny oh my god he like also got really food crazy at the end of it like he like remembered food existed and was like oh my god and he ate i think like mabel eats which he doesn't usually eat like that where he was just trying to fit as much of it in his mouth as possible like so scared it the second he doesn't get it all in his mouth it's gonna disappear yeah and no chewing no chewing straight breathing just like swallowing mouthfuls well he was gonna get something so i'm gonna start if he kept doing that exactly i was like my dude this is we literally just went to the vet because i thought you had something in my dude we are we we're not doing this yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. My guy. This is not a good time for this.
Starting point is 00:03:26 This is a stressful situation for me to watch you do this. So I had to, like, have him take a bite and then physically pull him back away from his food bowl to, like, force him to chew it. Oh, it was very funny. But he's doing much better today and eating. He ate normally this morning, so. Great. This is great news. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah. So all in all, it all ended up OK. A happy ending. Yeah. That is truly scary, though. It's very scary when you have to take your your animal to that for many reasons, because, you know, something really wrong. Am I going to pay ten thousand dollars?
Starting point is 00:03:57 But are both of those things going to be true? You know, it's really it's a lot. It is. It's stressful. It's very stressful. But thank God it was okay. Thank God. I'm so glad.
Starting point is 00:04:07 What about you, Emily? Did anything scary happen to you this week? Nothing quite that scary. I'll say in this moment, I just recently cut my hair. I cut a lot of hair off my head, which I love to do. You know I love to do it. But I'm still figuring it out because it's been a long time since I've had short hair. And I like having short hair, but I also always feel like I look like a little medieval page boy.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Like I just feel like it's my me with short hair is always the exact size and shape of like like the page. But like, I don't know, I like like biblical drawings of like Renaissance little boys. You know, that's like how I feel. Sometimes I think of it as as a lord Farquad from Shrek It's exactly Lord Farquad it also sometimes I feel like it looks like Like whenever in a movie A woman like uses a sword
Starting point is 00:04:53 To cut her hair off to be a boy it's like that Exact vibe on me But I'm really loving it I'm figuring it out it's great It looks great I think it looks great but there's always An adjustment period you just gotta period. You just gotta get used to it. Gotta get used to it. Thank you for that. But what I want to talk about instead
Starting point is 00:05:10 of that, which I already talked about, so it's not instead. It's in addition to. In addition to. What I'd like to talk about in addition to that is last night Joel and I watched a movie and we had been at dinner with friends the night before and somehow, oh, a friend of mine just worked
Starting point is 00:05:26 with someone, worked with a DP who was a DP on a Michael Bay movie and was talking about how they like... Ambulance? It was ambulance. Ambulance. I'm seeing it this week. I can't fucking wait. Okay, I can't wait to hear about it. I'm, okay, yeah, so here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So they worked on this Michael Bay movie and was like, I lost all this equipment because they just like blew everything up. I mean, obviously the production paid for it, So here's the deal. So they, they, they worked on this Michael Bay movie and was like, I lost all this equipment. Cause they just like blew everything up. I mean, obviously the production paid for it, but that's Michael Bay. And I realized in this conversation, I haven't seen like any Michael Bay movies.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I think the only Michael Bay movie I've seen is the rock. Which is great and fun. I think that's the only one I haven't seen. Oh, the only one you haven't seen. Okay. Well, let's see.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I'm embarrassed. This one that I'm about to talk about because Joel and and i i was like oh i love action movies like i know people really scoff at michael bay but like i love action movies like and big explosions that's fun i'll do it i'll do it so joel's like well there's this michael bay movie that i've been wanting to watch i've never seen it sounds super fun uh it'd be like a fun silly saturday night movie we can watch it's like great that sounds perfect that's exactly what I want. The movie is Pain and Gain. Yes! I was like, I hope she says Pain and Gain. I hope she says Pain and Gain. Oh. My.
Starting point is 00:06:30 God. It's his best work. It's his best work. Sammy, I hated it like I haven't hated a movie. I truly, I felt in the it felt to me like how it feels sometimes when you describe a horror movie to me at the end of it.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I was sitting on the couch and I was just like, I hated I wish that's two hours of my life. I will never get back. And I am the worst for it. Like, I was so fucking upset. I was so upset. I have the opposite opinion. I think the Rock's performance in that is his the best performance of today. OK, yes. I will so upset. I have the opposite opinion. I think The Rock's performance in that is the best performance to date. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yes. I will say this. I will say this. The Rock is so funny in it. The Rock is so funny in it. But I hated it. Hated it. Hated it.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Hated it. Felt bad watching it. Felt bad afterwards. Felt bad this morning. It makes me feel bad for several reasons one the real life story of it is insane i can't like and bad and like these are like sociopaths but the movie goes i think 50 of the way there of being like it's a farce about these bad people and you should think that they're bad and we're like doing the thing like almost Wolf of Wall Street vibes
Starting point is 00:07:46 where it's like we're going to pretend we're having fun but like actually you know that this is really fucked up and gnarly. But except they're also like isn't Mark Wahlberg cool? Like the movie's also doing that and I was really upset by it because no. First of all, no.
Starting point is 00:08:02 He's not. Second of all, no. These guys are not. The only, okay look we're going to, we'll talk Second of all, no, these guys are not the only. OK, look, we're going to we will talk about it later. You and me will talk about it later. I just like I was I was really upset by the things that happened in it. I was upset by the treatment of the characters. I was upset that this movie was made in 2013 and the characters in dialogue feel like this movie was made in 1990. Like aged quickly.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Oh, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It was it had was made in 1990. It aged quickly. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. It was it had aged out in 2013. Also the only women in it are strippers which like I get is like the vibe and also apparently Michael Bay. But like the one actual female character
Starting point is 00:08:40 they're just like look at this fucking idiot stripper the whole time. Even in the post credits where they talk about what happened to the real life people they make fun of her i just don't remember the movie enough to to really get into the plot of it with you i would never recommend re-watching it to anyone but but you made me you should look it's doing some things it's doing some things right i guess i I just like it just also and Joel kept saying like I'm
Starting point is 00:09:07 sorry this isn't what I thought it was gonna be I'm sorry like at first I think he really genuinely felt bad and even said he was like are you gonna talk about this in the podcast I said yes I absolutely am and you know body parts are getting separated from body Sammy I don't know if you remember that oh I don't remember that yeah
Starting point is 00:09:23 oh I gotta rewatch this movie because honestly please because i need to talk to you about it i've been singing its praises and now i'm nervous about that i'm sorry maybe you know that we have different opinions about movies so that's true i think i i think that i have a stronger reaction to it than most people would i do believe and joel and i were even we were like really talking through it this morning and it led to a whole conversation about like gender politics And toxic masculinity and the patriarchy And it was really interesting and like male gaze and
Starting point is 00:09:49 And you know so you know I do think I have a stronger reaction to it But I just want to say I fucking Hated it I hated it so much it's one of the things I've Hated the most that I've ever seen and I really I can't believe That that's true I can't believe I sat Down and watched a fucking Michael Bay, Mark Wahlberg movie
Starting point is 00:10:06 and have been like feeling like absolute shit ever since. So please rewatch it and talk to me about it. Let me know if I'm crazy or not. Okay. I will. I hope you recover quickly. I hope it fades from your
Starting point is 00:10:21 brain. Really, really, really fast. Thank you. I hope it fades from your brain. I hope so, too. Really, really fast. Thank you. I hope so, too. And we'll talk about a movie that I think you're going to like a lot more. I think maybe you already do like it a lot more. It's going to be a better day for me. And that movie is What We Do in the Shadows.
Starting point is 00:10:39 It was written and directed by Jemaine Clement and Taika Waititi. Starring Jemaine Clement, Taika Waititi, starring Jemaine Clement, Taika Waititi, Johnny Brough, Corey Gonzalez-McCore, Stu Rutherford, Ben Fransham, and Reese Darby. And we have a guest with us today to talk about this film. He is the creator of the comic Poorly Drawn Lines. It is Reza Farzman. Thank you for being here, Reza. Yeah, thank you for having me. So freaking excited. Thank you for choosing this movie.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I didn't know when you had chosen it that I would need it so badly, but I really do need this today. So thank you. But Reza, did anything scary happen to you this week? Yeah, actually. And it's also cat related. Oh, no. Yeah. week yeah actually and it's also cat related oh no yeah so i have two cats and i just moved to a new apartment and one of them fell out of a second story window at this new apartment
Starting point is 00:11:35 this just happened a few days ago so i like i i'm like still moving furniture around and i had moved my kitchen table right up against one of the kitchen windows, which is like a tall, horizontally opening window. And I guess my one cat saw some birds outside and was like leaning up against those. And it just like collapsed out and he just fell. And I just I was like, luckily, in the next room when it happened, I heard like a crash. And I for some reason, I knew that that's what had happened, like instinctively. And I was like I was, like, luckily in the next room when it happened, I heard, like, a crash. And I, for some reason, I knew that that's what had happened, like, instinctively. And I was like, oh, shoot. So, I, like, I ran into the kitchen and saw the screen was gone and the cat was gone.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And I, like, ran out my back door and down the stairs. And I saw him kind of, like, in a daze, like, on the ground with the wrecked screen. And he was kind of. He was slinking around and there was a neighbor dog barking and making him a little nervous and scared. They're very much indoor cats. I was like, this is kind of a bad situation.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I didn't want him to bolt, so I walked slowly after him to try to make him not nervous. That's what you got to do. You got to be calm. I ended up basically slowly chasing him all the way to the laundry room down the pathway at my apartment complex
Starting point is 00:12:51 and finally managed to grab him and brought him inside. And he was kind of struggling and then he started scratching me right when I got him through the door. So I had to throw him into the kitchen and slam the back door behind me. And for some reason it didn't even occur to me that he might be injured because i was just like okay cats are
Starting point is 00:13:09 resilient this is only from the second story he's probably okay and luckily he was but like i did some reading on the internet afterwards and he definitely could have hurt himself but fortunately he was okay and he was just like a little bit dazed yeah just sort of like wait i was uh upstairs and now where the hell am i yeah yeah i was gonna i was gonna say because i don't know where i learned this but i remember learning about terminal velocity specifically in cats and there's something about i don't know why they were using this example i almost spit my coffee everywhere i could just sit as soon as you said that but there's something about cats cats falling from a lower level is actually more dangerous because it doesn't give them time to relax into the fall like the reason they can survive from high falls
Starting point is 00:13:59 is because they like know to relax their their muscles or whatever. Oh, my God. And so they can survive from a nine-story fall easier than they can from a three-story fall. Yeah, and from higher up, they reach a point where they stop accelerating, basically. Yeah. They become just a little shoop, shoop. Yeah. Yeah, like a little feather, just like...
Starting point is 00:14:20 Like little flying squirrels. They open their legs and they just parachute down. Well, apparently the danger spot is floors two through seven. That is a big danger spot. I know, right? That's like how many people really live above the seventh floor? Like, not that many.
Starting point is 00:14:39 So yeah, I guess from floor two, he could have been hurt, but he was okay. Oh, thank goodness. I just like monitored him for a few days afterwards yeah that exact scenario happened to my boyfriend one of his cats years ago that um yeah did he was like trying to get a bug or a bird or something and like went up to the screen it just went and the whole thing fell and fell out the window. I have to figure out how to cat-proof the apartment, I guess.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's been in LA. I don't know if you guys are both in LA, but it's been 97 the past two days. So all your windows are open. Yeah, but now they're closed because I'm like, the cat's going to fall out the damn window again. For the last two days, I just had the windows closed and the fans on.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I've basically just been sweating in here. The things we do. But I have a couple of balcony-level windows that are okay. Even if they got out, they wouldn't fall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just kind of figuring it out now.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Figuring out how I'm going to... I'm looking around, looking at all these potentially dangerous terminal velocity windows. Oh, man. Damn. Well, I'm glad everybody's cats were okay. I was going to say, scary week for our cats here. Scary week for cats. And Reza, speaking of scary, what are your feelings on scary movies in general?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Do you like them? Do you hate them? So I wouldn't say I hate them, but I've never been a big fan of them. I think I had a few that like scared me really badly when I was a kid. And then it just kind of put me off of them. I don't even know if I was that I wasn't like a little kid when I saw the sixth sense, but I was like young enough to be like really scared by it. And I guess I had a pretty overactive imagination for a young child. And so I like totally imagined after that, like, I forget her name. It was the girl from the OC, like coming out from under the bed.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yes, Misha Barton. That part scared the shit out of me with her vomit coming out of her mouth. Yeah. So for like, probably like a few weeks after I saw that movie, I would like jump into my bed instead of like, I'd like jump out of it like far enough so that an arm couldn't grab me. Yeah. Like a good three feet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Can you imagine? It must not, it doesn't, I don't think it happens often, but I can imagine nothing scarier than something grabbing your ankle. Do you know what I mean? One time I backed up to my bed and I didn't know my cat was under it
Starting point is 00:17:06 and I like got her tail and she freaked out and like grabbed my ankle and I've never screamed louder in my entire life. It scared the shit out of me. Like I thought I lost it. And a human hand? Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Hell no. It's scary. And I mean, I guess that's what makes that movie so good is that you have these kind of like high concept horror stuff with ghosts and the supernatural but then you have something as simple as an arm grabbing you which is like very effective in that scene um so yeah that that's one movie that i can remember really scaring me as a kid um and then there are a lot of exceptions to
Starting point is 00:17:46 horror for me. If anything involves science fiction, I'm usually down. The first Alien movie, I don't know if you even class that as horror. It's more like a slasher. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. I've really been enjoying Raised by Wolves lately, which has a lot of horror and thriller elements. Oh, I've
Starting point is 00:18:02 heard about that. I gotta check that out. And do you know, is that like because do you think you're able to sort of disassociate in that like, well, that is another universe that's never going to happen to me? Or is it not even just like you're interested enough in the world to be okay with the scares that come
Starting point is 00:18:18 with it? I think it's the world. I think it's the world building and like sci-fi concepts just really interest me. So I will like make an exception there. I was too scared to watch X-Files as a kid and then I became a big X-Files fan as an adult and went back and watched the whole series. So, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I guess it's not that I'm averse to horror movies but then I know a lot of modern horror kind of relies on gore and a lot of human suffering which still kind of affects me as an adult. Yeah. Interesting. You're affected by human suffering.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah, I know, right? That feels crazy, honestly. So I remember my friends describing the hostile movies to me or trying to watch the Saw movies and just being like, man, watching people get tortured was probably not my thing.
Starting point is 00:19:06 But if the film has an interesting plot or concept, I can't help myself and only to watch it or at the very least read the Wikipedia summary to figure out what happened. We get it. Yeah, we listen to this podcast. Now I know you guys are recapping stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:22 There you go. That's what we do. And can I say, if you don't like people getting tortured, I don't recommend the Michael Bay film Pain and Gain. Okay. See, when you were describing that, I was like, I also remember seeing the trailers for that and thinking that it was some kind of a goofy heist comedy or something. But I guess it's a little bit heavier than that by the sound of it.
Starting point is 00:19:43 It's tough. We're not going to talk. We're not going to talk anymore about it. But just, you know. Let's just drop Payne again. It's not. We're turning over a new leaf. We're turning over a new leaf.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And that is what we do in the shadows, which I'm very curious why you picked this movie in particular. Yeah, I just really love this movie. And I think I really love everything that this little group of New Zealand comics and filmmakers has put out over the last decade or so. Starting with probably Flight of the Conchords was my introduction to them. And then I think it was What We Do in the Shadows where I first discovered Taika Waititi. And then going back, I realized that he'd actually written and directed several episodes of Flight of the Conchords and that this whole world of like Jermaine and Taika and Rhys Darby is kind of this
Starting point is 00:20:32 New Zealand comedy troupe that's just been making a lot of stuff together all the way up till now I just finished Our Flag Means Death which I found very delightful and hilarious Oh good to know They're so great. They're the best, man.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I love Boy and Hunt for the Wilder People. They just don't miss. They just don't miss. They make a lot of good shit. It's also interesting. I feel like this can't possibly be true, but every person I know, in LA at least, who's from New Zealand knows each
Starting point is 00:21:06 other in a way and like and not I don't know them through the same circles it's like everybody I know from New Zealand knows everybody else I know from New Zealand and so it's like it makes sense that all the best creators in New Zealand as far as I know know each other and make stuff together because I guess I guess it's tight knit
Starting point is 00:21:22 community yeah but then in like a broader sense I think I really love Like horror Send up or like light-hearted Horror concepts that are translated Into comedy Actually I love it so much that my first graphic novel
Starting point is 00:21:38 That I wrote is about A group of monsters, a vampire A ghost and a Bigfoot type monster That live in a city together. And this was like heavily influenced by what we do in the shadows. Ah, so cool! City monster. City
Starting point is 00:21:54 monster, check it out. And yeah, actually I made the I tried to like kind of replicate like an old timey universal monster movie poster for the cover. Yeah, totally. I mean, everybody should get to enjoy monsters. Monsters are cool.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah, I also love Halloween. I just love spooky stuff. But usually like fun spooky stuff that has a light hearted. Like the song Monster Mash. That's my shit. That song? It's your favorite song? Yeah, it's my favorite. It's what I listen to every morning when i wake up
Starting point is 00:22:26 favorite song oh wow well let me tell us a little bit about what we do in the shadows give you some stats yes uh it has a 96 on rotten tomatoes so people agree we're in agreement here this is a great movie uh 76 on metacritic that's still pretty good though for metacritic and 7.7 on imdb which is very high for imdb yep uh the budget was 1.6 million and it made 7.3 million it initially didn't do well in new zealand and so distribution to the u.s was canceled if you can believe it whoa and i guess they were able to able to do screenings at festivals in the U.S. And they did a Kickstarter fundraising campaign. And that was how they were able to bring it to the U.S.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And it's obviously such a popular movie now. And it just seems crazy that it ever wouldn't have done well. Like, what? It's so good. When did it come out? What year? Oh, sorry. 2014. I did not write that down
Starting point is 00:23:30 like a freaking dummy. No, she's not a dummy. I also didn't realize that it had not done well initially, but I guess, I don't know, would it be considered a cult film? It feels like everybody who likes film has seen it. Yeah. Certainly before the show was made, it was more of a cult. And I feel like everybody who likes film has seen it. Yeah. Certainly before the show was made
Starting point is 00:23:46 it was more of a cult. And I feel like cult movies I think of as like word of mouth type movies. Like it's kind of movie that people are just like talking about a lot. And I feel like when it came out it was very much that. It was just like you got to see this movie. It's so good. It's so good. I haven't seen it in a while.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Yeah. I'm sure a lot of people are going back to it now that the show is pretty popular. Yeah. And the show is excellent as well. Yeah. The show is also excellent. Love the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And it was interesting. I also hadn't seen the movie in a while. So it was interesting seeing like it's not a direct remake or anything. It's like a it's a whole new story with a new set of vampires. But they take a lot of the concepts and translate them over. Or like a lot of the characteristics of certain them over or like a lot of the characteristics of certain characters are like brought over and combined into other characters
Starting point is 00:24:29 totally it's the same world but in Staten Island Staten Island Staten Island they say it's so funny for this movie they shot 125 hours of footage most of which was improvised.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And the process of editing it down to a 90 minute movie took almost a year. Oh, what a nightmare. I know. Oh my God. Editing that much improvised footage. Oh. Uh, and they said that the direct or the director said that they are considering making all the footage available online so that fans can edit their own version.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And as an editor, I'm like, that sounds awful. Why would anybody want to do that? But I'm sure people will. You know how people like edit down Lord of the Rings into like one shorter movie? I feel like some people do like that. Do people do that? Yes, people do do it. And I feel like it just sounds so bad.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And why are we doing that? Wow. Didn't like Tobey Maguire make a fan edit of the three Star Wars prequels? Yes. Yeah. That's right. That is correct. And it's apparently like a really popular fan edit. Wow. That's very... Well, I
Starting point is 00:25:36 guess, you know, Tobey I get. You know, he's got money and time probably, you know? But like the rest of us... Come on. What are we doing? Oh, wait. Was it Tobey Maguire or was it the guy from that 70s show? Topher Grace. I think it was Topher Grace. They get mixed up a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Oh, not Tobey. Topher. And you know what? My comment still stands. Makes sense for Topher too. So Tobey, if you want to, I think you also can. Do it with the Spider-Mans. Yeah. And then there's like some New Zealandaland well lord of the rings kind of base trivia that because lord of the rings was filmed in new zealand famously famously the the building that is used for the exterior of the house that the
Starting point is 00:26:19 vampires live in was peter jackson's office when he was filming Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson working from a vampire house. That's right. That's right. And the hill that the vampires run into werewolves on is where Frodo and the Hobbits are running from the Black Rider and hiding under the roots of a tree. I can picture it perfectly. I can as well. And then the last piece of trivia is, I just thought this was kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:26:48 They lost a charred skeleton body during this shoot that they throw into the harbor for a funeral scene. The scene didn't end up in the film, but they didn't realize that it was drifting away. And it was so realistic looking that they had to send out a press release that in case these like charred remains got found that it's a prop oh my god so i hope so i don't hope this would be bad but imagine someone who's like okay this is my week to burn a body anybody want to send out charred remains it's now's the time so good cover good cover i've been waiting for this perfect perfect way to hide my my body that i've been looking to dispose of yeah yeah i'll burn it perfect oh boy oh boy um vampires are so fun do you know what i mean vampires are very give me a vampire story i just i love all the
Starting point is 00:27:41 different interpretations of vampires i love the lore surrounding vampires. I just like really... And I don't think I did. I know I didn't prior to this podcast and certainly not prior to my friendship with you, Sammy, and our friend Jenna. I've really gotten on board with vampires. And boy, are they fun.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Vampires are the best. This is probably like the most fun vampire movie because vampires are always cool and sexy and confident. I don't think I've seen a lot of interpretations of vampires where they're kind of naive dorks, which is the case with this movie.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And so from another time. I love how... We'll get into it. I love how much they play up that these are from... They don't exist in this modern day reality, but they also do like even, you know, like in Twilight, which, you know, we love so much. They act like modern day people, even though they're from another time. And these guys just really don't. And I truly love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah. Not not super trying to blend in they really like um they really play up the concept of actually being that old of a creature and still trying to like keep your shit together um and how that's that's probably not possible yeah oh my god okay let's free let's get into oh wait we got to watch the trailer let's watch this trailer let's watch the trailer and then we'll get into it. Okay. I just got too excited. It's been like this the whole time. Deacon on dishes and it still hasn't moved in five years.
Starting point is 00:29:15 You're a cool guy, but you're not pulling your weight in the flat. Oh, I'm glad to hear that I'm cool. No, that's not the point though. Yeah. No, I know. I know. Flat meeting about how cool you are. point though yeah no i know i know that meeting about how cool you are when you get three vampires in a flat obviously there's going to be a lot of tension viago was an 18th century dandy look a ghost cat vladislav is a bit of a pervert this is my torture chamber
Starting point is 00:29:41 deacons like the young bad boy of the group. I'm supposed to pay rent, but I don't. The trouble with being a vampire is you have to be invited in. I'm coming to the bar. Please, please walk down. Will you invite us in? We need some fresh blood. Hi, my name is Nick. I've been a vampire for two months. My friend Richie's a bouncer. He'll invite us in.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Gentlemen, you are most welcome. Nick is so much fun. I'm a vampire. Vampire! Vampire! Such a dick. Nick, why don't you use the front door? Do you want to draw attention to this house, hmm? We've got a whole documentary crew following you around.
Starting point is 00:30:26 You led a vampire hunt into our house. I don't need a man. I just got my email. I'm going to kill you. I'm already dead. You will not eat the camera guy. Maybe one camera guy. I'm trying to take it. Use your legs. Wow. God damn, it become very sexy. God damn, it's so good. I need to watch it again immediately. I will probably watch it tonight.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Man, I don't know if we all watch the same one, but there was a lot of kind of spoilers in that trailer. There often are. Yeah. It happens. It happens. But there is a lot of great accents also. Oh often are. Yeah. It happens. It happens. But there is a lot of great accents also.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Oh, the accents. Oh my god. What a plethora of accents. I love it. I absolutely love it. I'm glad that we still got a lot of the New Zealand accent though. Because the New Zealand accent is just delightful and everything is funnier with it. It's so fun. I know. It really is.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I feel like it's a hard one to do. I just so easily slip into that Australian accent and New Zealand is just a little different. I remember once literally looking up a YouTube video of how to differentiate between the two and one of the examples they gave was the difference between
Starting point is 00:32:00 the way they say pen and Australian. It would be pin. Pin? Oh. And in Australian, it would be pin. Pin. Oh. And in New Zealand, it'd be pin, pun. Okay. It was like this E sound.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Pin. I do remember in Flight of the Conchords, there was a running guy where people would call Brit. Brit. I think he may be deed. And their American friend would be like, maybe he did what? No, I think he may be deed.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Maybe he did, maybe he he didn't I don't know God it's so good and that when Aziz thinks that they're from Australia and then They realize that he's from New Zealand he doesn't hate them Anymore he's being like really racist against them because he thinks they're Australian and then he finds out they're from New Zealand And I think it's
Starting point is 00:32:42 Jermaine who's like no they're like where's The car and we're like where's the car? And we're like, where's the car? It's so, so good. I freaking love Flight of the Conchords. Oh my god, but I also really love this movie and I can't wait to talk about it. Let's get into it.
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Starting point is 00:35:39 was just that there's not really like a central plot necessarily. It's more like a central premise. 125 hours of footage. Yeah. And I guess that makes sense now that I know how much of it was improvised. But it's more like a central premise with a bunch of little subplots extending off of it. The subplots being like the individual desires and motivations of each of the main vampires. And it's also filmed mockumentary style, which I think the lack of a central plot kind of goes along with that because it's more like we're just watching days in the lives of these characters.
Starting point is 00:36:13 So, the film starts off with kind of a typical Hollywood wake up scene where an alarm goes off and a guy wakes up except he's a vampire and he rises out of his coffin and it's taika waititi playing um viago uh it's the name of his character and then he basically like wakes up all his flatmates and we learn that there is these four vampires living together and they're all kind of like old traditional vampires from the old world or the ancient world um taika waititi's character is like 400 years old. Jemaine Clement is like an 800-year-old vampire type Dracula. There's a character called Peter who's 8,000 years old, and he's basically Nosferatu.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And then there's the young, cool, hip vampire who's 186 or something like that. And that's Deacon, who's kind of like the cool bad boy of the group. The cool bad boy of the group. Yeah. That was good. That was not great. I feel like I can only do Deacon. What does Deacon say?
Starting point is 00:37:18 I'm glad to hear you think that I'm cool. He's the cool bad boy of the group. Yeah, that's all you heard in that conversation. Yeah. And one of the few actual jump scare parts of the movie takes place right at the beginning when Viago
Starting point is 00:37:35 goes to wake up Peter, the ancient 8,000-year-old vampire who sleeps in a stone sarcophagus. And he wakes up and jumps. There's. There's like a little bit of a jump scare when he opens his eyes. I remembered it scaring me the first time I saw it. I haven't seen this since
Starting point is 00:37:51 it came out and I, in this scene, like the second I saw it happen, I started tensing. I was like, there's a scary part coming. I know. Actually, a few of the scares in the movie are centered around the Peter character, who we mentioned how aging as a vampire is actually kind of addressed in an almost serious way in this movie. Peter is basically like a feral animal at this point and doesn't talk. And he's just like this decrepit old,
Starting point is 00:38:27 like a pale thing living in a, in a stone sarcophagus. And his makeup is like, his, he looks scary. His teeth are gnarly. Yeah. He's like,
Starting point is 00:38:38 yeah, very Nosferatu looking and has not just like two vampire teeth. He has like a full mouth of fangs. Yeah. In a different movie he would probably be a very scary character yes I remember yeah he was scary and so anyway yeah we meet all these vampires we find out that they all live together in modern-day Wellington New Zealand they've all arrived in New Zealand for various reasons. We find out that...
Starting point is 00:39:07 Oh, my cat's knocking stuff over. We find out that Viago came to New Zealand in the 1910s to pursue the love of his life, who there was a bit of a mix-up and he shipped himself or he had his familiar ship him in like a crate by sea to New Zealand. And he ended up taking 18 months to get there because his familiar put the wrong postage on the box. So, he totally missed the opportunity to reconnect with the love of his life in New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:39:35 So, he just let her go. And now he just lives with his friends basically in this flat. And yeah, so we find out that they basically, they obviously spend all day sleeping and then at night they go out and try to be like cool, sexy vampires and like go to nightclubs and stuff. But the nightclubs that they go to, they either can't
Starting point is 00:39:56 get into them or they can go to like this one really lame bar that vampires own so they can go to it. And it's like, it's painted as this, you think it's going to be this cool like true blood-esque vampire nightclub and it just turns out to basically be like a dive bar with a dartboard on the wall
Starting point is 00:40:12 and nobody in there I love how in this movie they also people are always calling out that they look crazy like they don't know how to dress they're 400 years old and so they wear like insane clothes and people treat them like they're total freaks. They're just
Starting point is 00:40:27 so funny. There's such a great scene of them not knowing what they look like because they don't have reflections. So like before they go out to the bars they have to do little fashion shows in front of each other and there's like a scene where Vlad
Starting point is 00:40:43 is trying something on and Deacon is drawing the shittiest picture of him and like showing turning it and showing it to him like that's what you look like and yeah they're not inconspicuous at all like they go out in like huge furs and like top hats it's so funny
Starting point is 00:40:58 yeah they I mean they look pretty good by like street wear standards maybe yeah oh now they be on the like watching New York Instagram account for sure. Yes. Yes. Fashion week. Totally. For sure. But the, I actually really appreciated how much effort Deacon put into his drawings. Like he, he really tried, even though he's not a great artist. Yeah. I mean, that's all they've got. They can't, they can't look in the mirror. So they got to rely on those drawings. And they also aren't aware of like digital cameras or webcams at this point.
Starting point is 00:41:30 That comes later. So they can't like look into a webcam or anything like that. But anyway, so we kind of like in the first half hour or whatever, we kind of get a sense of how they live currently, which is basically just being really out of touch and old and not understanding the modern world, but still trying to fit in. And they go out at night trying to find victims, which is their relationship with their victims is pretty horrific,
Starting point is 00:41:56 but it's played for comedic effect. So there's one point where we see Jermaine Clement trying to suck a woman's blood and it goes... Oh no, it wasn't Jermaine. It was Taika trying to suck a woman's blood. And it goes horribly oh, no, it wasn't Jermaine. It was Taika trying to suck a woman's blood. And it goes like horribly wrong. There's blood all over the place. And it's actually like very disturbing, but it's all played for laughs, basically.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah. He's he's saying how he takes this woman home and chatting like her thinking they're on a date and she's just like gone home with this guy and he's laying newspaper down on the ground around her as they're talking because he doesn't want to make a mess and then he accident he's and he's asking her about herself she's like yeah i've got this uh trip planned to europe i've never been and he's i'm so excited and you see like viago looking really sad to hear this and he's like oh well, and then he pulls her hair back and bites her neck and hits the main artery and it just sprays blood everywhere. And it is like horrifying. But it also is very funny. It's just she's just bumbling and failing at being a vampire often. i feel like yeah they're just not they're not the cool slick vampires is is yeah they're not they they mess up a lot but then another funny part of this world is that the the general public seems like blissfully unaware of even the
Starting point is 00:43:18 weird things they do like for instance that his date when he's laying the newspaper down is just like completely unaware that anything bad is going to happen. Which is like another thing that plays in with like a few members of the public interacting with them. And they just, for some reason, all of the weird things they do kind of go over everybody's heads. And I guess that's why vampires can still
Starting point is 00:43:38 exist in secret in this world is because people at large seem a little bit dumb in this universe. We're all in our own worlds, you know? Yeah, nobody's expecting them to be vampires. Why would they be expecting that? Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, we get a sense of their lives as they've been living them for, like,
Starting point is 00:43:56 I don't know, since the early 1900s when they came to New Zealand. And then we meet Jackie, who is Deacon's familiar, a familiar being like a vampire thrall, basically a servant to a vampire who is serving the vampire in hopes that they get turned into a vampire themselves and gain immortal life. So Jackie is like this mother of two kids, just kind of like an ordinary New Zealand woman who she like is very deadpan and plays the character really straight like she's she completely overlooks all the horrific and terrible things that they do because she also wants to be a vampire and
Starting point is 00:44:36 she basically has to like clean up the gore from their murder scenes and try to find victims for them so one of the plot points comes in when they ask Jackie to find two find victims for them. So one of the plot points comes in when they ask Jackie to find two virgins for them. And she supposedly finds two virgins who are, one of them is her ex-boyfriend
Starting point is 00:44:54 and one of them is a girl who like made fun of her in primary school. So she almost finds people who she doesn't like very much and won't miss when they eventually get killed by the vampires. It's a smart way to play it. Yeah, so those are the two people she picks. And then she brings them to a dinner
Starting point is 00:45:09 with the vampires. And at one point, I guess they turn the guy's spaghetti into worms. Like, they hypnotize him, and that's... We see one of their vampire powers. And the guy's name is nick and he i guess eventually they they all turn on him and they start chasing him through the house
Starting point is 00:45:33 after the dinner um they kill his friend and they chase him and that's like another one of the semi-scary parts of the film like again, in a different context, it would be a scary movie. It's like they're chasing this guy through this dark house and it's only filmed by a single cam, a mockumentary style camera. So it feels kind of Blair Witch-esque or something. Right. It's very
Starting point is 00:45:57 frantic and something scary is happening each way he looks. It's very disorienting and he's just panicking more and more. And then eventually you think he's going to be scot-free and he gets out of the house. And then Peter, the 8,000-year-old vampire,
Starting point is 00:46:13 feral vampire, comes out of nowhere and tackles him and it's like end of scene. And all the other vampires are like, oh no, Peter got him. Their fun is ruined because Peter got him. One of the things he sees when he's running,eter got him one of the things one of the things he sees when he's running he like looks in one of the rooms and there's a cat meow and he sees a cat with jermaine clement's face and there's like a little mention of it earlier that uh vladislav
Starting point is 00:46:40 is his character's name that his powers have been dwindling a bit since his confrontation with the beast. Yeah. Yeah. And so his powers aren't strong. They were like, he used to be able to turn into animals and now he just can't really get the face right anymore. So there's this shot of a cat with a human face and it's, oh man, it's very funny.
Starting point is 00:47:03 It was a great little set up and payoff especially because the cut to the cat with Jermaine's face is like very brief and it's like a total laugh out loud moment. Yeah. So yeah, that's the end of the scene there. Nick gets killed. Both of the
Starting point is 00:47:21 virgins who actually turn out to not be virgins who Jackie brought to the vampires, they both get killed. Both of the virgins, who actually turn out to not be virgins, who Jackie brought to the vampires, they both get killed. But then later on, it's two months later or something like that, and it's revealed that Nick, the guy who
Starting point is 00:47:38 came to the dinner and was supposedly killed, is actually alive, and that Peter, the ancient vampire, had just turned him into a vampire. And that introduces one of the points of conflict into the film, which is that Peter also turned Deacon, like the young, cool rebel vampire, into a vampire. So, he's kind of like Peter's father figure or whatever, or Deacon's father figure. And now Peter has made a new vampire who's like even younger and cooler. Nick is like this cool, hip young guy who like goes to clubs and stuff
Starting point is 00:48:08 and so there's some tension. Younger, cooler, badder. Yeah, exactly. So Nick is now like this two-month-old vampire. He's the youngest vampire in the crew and the crew kind of like accepts him and lets him live in the house and hang out with them
Starting point is 00:48:23 but he starts being able to get them into all the bars and clubs in Wellington that they've been wanting to go to. Because you have to be invited into the club as a vampire. You have to be invited into whatever, buildings. So he gets invites in. And so there's a bunch of tension with Deacon being like,
Starting point is 00:48:39 oh, I'm not the cool one anymore. This cool guy is getting us into clubs now. But the problem with Nick is that he's going around bragging about being a vampire to everybody because he's just kind of like... He won't shut up about it. Yeah. He's just kind of like brash and arrogant and he's telling everybody he's a vampire drunkenly.
Starting point is 00:48:55 And he tells one guy he's a vampire and the guy's like, oh, I'm a vampire hunter. And we don't really think anything of it. But then that sets up another plot point later, which is that at some point, this vampire hunter shows up and actually manages to kill Peter, the ancient vampire, by opening a window and burning him with sunlight. But the vampire hunter also gets killed when Peter pushes his sarcophagus lid onto him and crushes him. So Peter has like one last moment of badassery and then
Starting point is 00:49:26 the vampire hunter actually ends up killing him. And then all the other vampires are very angry at Nick, the young vampire, for getting their old friend killed. And Deacon especially takes it very poorly. And then Deacon and Nick start fighting. And then there's a funny
Starting point is 00:49:42 scene where the police show up and they're like responding to a domestic disturbance and Viago has to hypnotize them so that they don't notice anything is wrong and then they end up like walking around the house and seeing all these weird things but they just they can't actually acknowledge any of it because they've been hypnotized
Starting point is 00:49:57 they keep like almost calling it out and being like what's this over here what's this over here and they're like over a dead body or like the burned bones and they're like, these cans of paint don't have lids on them. That's a fire hazard. That's like something
Starting point is 00:50:12 else in that area that they're looking at. A lot of fake outs because Viago's nervous because his powers of hypnosis aren't as strong or whatever. Yeah. So they basically keep hinting like they're going to see something out of the ordinary, but it's always just like
Starting point is 00:50:27 a safety violation. Like they, you think they're going to notice the vampires floating in the corner of a room and then they're just like, hey, there's no smoke detectors in here. And apparently these two characters have like a spin-off TV show called Wellington Paranormal,
Starting point is 00:50:44 which I had heard of and I didn't realize that that was what that show was based on. So now I'm going to have to watch that show. Yeah, I think there were a couple of proposed spinoffs. That one actually got made. There was another one called We're Wolves based on the werewolves
Starting point is 00:51:00 in this film. Yes, I was going to ask about that. Is that still happening? I tried to look. From what. Yes, I was going to ask about that. Is that still happening? I tried to look. From what I saw, it was still in production. Yeah. Or maybe it's been stalled or something. And I think there's something about Taika and Jemaine saying that it took them like 10 years to make What We Do in the Shadows.
Starting point is 00:51:20 So, maybe it'll take like another 10 to make like a follow-up film to it. Yeah. So, yeah, maybe we'll take like another 10 to make like a follow-up film to it. Yeah. So, yeah. Maybe we'll see that at some point. But that's another thing I forgot to mention is that like maybe halfway through the film, we're introduced to a group of werewolves who also live in Wellington. On that hill from Lord of the Rings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:36 On that very hill. And they're led by Rhys Darby, who's the alpha wolf of the pack. Who is very funny. They're not like the werewolves who are trying not to be werewolves, basically. They're not aggressive. They try not to swear. They try not to get into fights.
Starting point is 00:51:57 We're werewolves, not swearwolves. We're werewolves, not swearwolves. Not swearwolves. It seems like Rhys Darby's character Anton is like trying to get them to be more civilized basically or like not randomly kill people so yeah we're
Starting point is 00:52:14 introduced to them like earlier in the film then they come back later on there's also Nick has a friend named Stu that we meet oh yeah of course Stu who he like he's like stew doesn't know that i'm a vampire yet and really sucks because like i really want to eat him now but he's my best mate there's a lot of like to camera confessionals of him working through his friendship with stew and
Starting point is 00:52:41 how they're going to handle it and eventually he has a sit down chat with Stu where he comes clean and it's very funny and Stu was he's not an actor it's just a guy a guy that they cast or I don't know if he was just friends with them or something but he really was just a
Starting point is 00:53:00 guy that worked in like computers and that's his job in this movie and he's so funny in it oh man yeah I love that even funnier of a performance to know that he is just truly like a computer software guy yeah I love it
Starting point is 00:53:16 some of the funniest interactions in the movie come like from Stu because he's once Nick becomes accepted into the household and reveals everything to Stu Stu becomes accepted into the household and reveals everything to Stu, Stu becomes accepted into the household as well. And he basically plays the role of like younger guy who introduces all the vampires to technology. So he like shows them digital cameras and YouTube and they're able to like
Starting point is 00:53:40 watch the sunrise on YouTube, which is something they haven't seen since they turned into vampires. And there's actually like a very cute relationship that they have with Stu where they kind of see him as like a little brother or something and all of them agree not to eat Stu. And they're all just very sweet to him. I think one of the funniest scenes was when Nick is talking to Peter in his sarcophagus and outlining his relationship with Stu and the fact that all the other guys have
Starting point is 00:54:10 agreed not to eat Stu and that like he knows it's wrong to have a human in the house but he's wondering if Peter could just be chill with it and not eat Stu and Peter has no dialogue in the entire movie and the one time you actually see him like acknowledge a conversation is that when Nick's like very sweetly like, can we just please not eat him?
Starting point is 00:54:26 He just like nods. And like, that's the most communication we get from Peter, basically. But it's just like, it's funny seeing this like ancient feral vampire totally acknowledging and also being like agreeing to be sweet towards Stu. Amazing. Who's just like this very soft spoken, nice guy. Who's also totally accepting of all the vampires. So yeah, Stu. He's probably one of the funniest characters
Starting point is 00:54:50 just because of how understated he is. Yeah, he's the best. So yeah, after the whole confrontation between Nick and Deacon over Peter's death and the police come, the police leave, and then there's a time skip. Oh, and they all agree to banish Nick from the house for telling people he's a vampire
Starting point is 00:55:08 and getting Peter killed so Nick is banished Stu can still come over when he wants to but then there's a time skip and I think it's like a few months later and the vampire house gets an invitation to something called the unholy
Starting point is 00:55:24 masquerade, which is like a big meeting slash like fancy ball for all of the undead in Wellington. And I realized that the unholy masquerade is actually teased really early on in the movie. There's like a little script that comes up right at the beginning. There's like some introductory text. That's like this camera crew got unprecedented
Starting point is 00:55:45 access to a secret society before the unholy masquerade. Yeah, exactly. But then we don't hear anything about the unholy masquerade until like again, until the last third of the movie, basically, which again goes along with like you think that's going to be the plot of the film, but there's really not a plot. It's just like people
Starting point is 00:56:02 having their own little dramas throughout the movie. But then we find out about the unholy masquerade again, like in the last act of the film basically. And they're all excited except for Vladislav who was expecting to be the guest of honor. And I should point out that Vladislav is basically like supposed to be Dracula. He was this medieval tyrant who became a vampire and he's called Vlad the Poker as opposed to Vlad the Impaler because he pokes people. There's a really funny scene where Stu shows him Facebook and he finds out about the poke function and he's like, yes, let's do that. But anyway, he's like
Starting point is 00:56:45 really expecting to be the guest of honor at the unholy masquerade but then he finds out that the guest of honor is in fact going to be his nemesis, the beast who he had some great confrontation with many years ago and since that confrontation where he lost to the beast
Starting point is 00:57:01 he's not been the same. He can't do the faces right on animals anymore. And so he gets really depressed. And while the other guys are getting ready for the ball, he basically sinks deeper and deeper into a depression. And we see him age really badly.
Starting point is 00:57:18 All his hair starts falling out and his skin turns gray and his nails get really long. And he's kind of starting to turn into what Peter looked like. Like a Nosferatu type vampire. It's like he's losing the will to hang on to the afterlife basically. And so
Starting point is 00:57:34 they go to the ball without him. They try to convince him to come and he says, leave me to do my dark bidding. And they're like, what? And he's bidding on eBay and they're like, what he's bidding on ebay and they're like what are you bidding on and he's like it's a table yeah that was a pretty good pretty good little joke there they really got me leave me to do my dark bidding on this table but yeah they
Starting point is 00:58:00 leave him to do his dark bidding and they go off to the ball. And at the ball, they run into Nick and Stu. Nick, being the bad boy rebel that he is, has brought his human friend Stu to a party where humans are not allowed. realizes that Stu is a human. They think he might be a male witch or something. So they kind of give him a pass until we meet the beast of Vladislav's great rival, who turns out to be his ex-girlfriend, Pauline. And she's there with her new boyfriend, Julian. I thought her name is Pauline. Yeah, Pauline and Julian. The most unassuming names.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And they're like these old vampires. And she's the guest of honor. And she kind of picks up on the fact that Stu is a human. And then everybody else at the party, which also includes werewolves and zombies and witches, start to realize that Stu is a human. And this party starts to get kind of scary for Stu as all the undead decide that they want to eat him and also
Starting point is 00:59:10 the human camera crew who the vampires have brought with them. Throughout the entire film, there's a human camera crew following them around. It's very fun. It acknowledges that there's a documentary going on. There's a documentary crew following these guys including to this top secret
Starting point is 00:59:26 meeting of the secret society that they're not allowed to be at. And so the tension rises at the ball as all of the undead start to turn on the humans and slowly approach them menacingly. And then it seems like it's probably going to be over for Stu
Starting point is 00:59:41 and then Vladislav shows up out of nowhere and stops everybody. And he's dressed very decadently in like a whole white suit with a white top hat and a mask. Or no, he's not wearing a top hat, but he has his hair done up like Gary Oldman in Dracula. I tried to look up what that hairstyle is called because it must have a name. I don't know. Yeah, it's like two... Yeah, you know those like bump-its that you can make your little ponytail really big with?
Starting point is 01:00:09 It's like two little bumps on his head. It's so funny. He struts in like he just is really feeling himself and he looks incredible. Yeah, he looks incredible. He's gone from like aging really rapidly to I guess he got his groove back and he struts in looking like himself again. And then Pauline's like, who the hell are you to stop me from meeting this human? And then she like doesn't recognize him and he's like, you don't recognize your past lover?
Starting point is 01:00:39 And she says some name like Patrick or something? And he's like, no, like five years before that. So, she has a lot of ex-lovers. And he struggles to take his mask off to reveal who he actually is. And he finally does. He's like, I am Vladislav. And so, he's there. And then I don't remember exactly. I think
Starting point is 01:00:58 he gets into a fight with her. He gets into a fight with her new boyfriend Julian. Yes. Who like steps up and then they're about to, they're like facing off and about to start fighting. And the whole unholy masquerade is going to descend into chaos. And then out of nowhere, Stu steps up with a flagpole and like impales Julian, the new boyfriend, through the back with this flagpole and kind of saves Vlad from getting into a
Starting point is 01:01:24 fight. Yeah, I guess Vlad was on his back about to get killed by Julian and then Stu totally saved him, which was pretty badass for the only human at this party full of powerful monsters. And I guess they all just flee from there. They flee, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Yeah, they flee. They run to what looks very much like the hill from Lord of the Rings, where they run into the werewolves again. And the werewolves being like, they're trying, again, they're trying to be responsible werewolves. They're all busy chaining themselves to trees as they're about to transform because it's the full moon. because it's the full moon. They're changing themselves to trees and Rhys Darby is there directing the whole thing. And he's getting really annoyed with them because several of them have forgotten to wear their track pants, which would give them enough
Starting point is 01:02:11 room for their legs to grow into. Instead, they're all wearing skinny jeans. And he's like, those jeans are going to be destroyed after this. They're going to be ruined. And he's just doing his typical Rhys Darby. I'm not even going to try to do the New Zealand accent, but he's just like, he's playing the doting
Starting point is 01:02:27 like parent of the group basically. And he's like, you guys have messed up. I'm really disappointed in you. And he's like swearing because he's stressed out. They're all like, I thought we weren't swear wolves. Oh, so good. So anyway, but then they're interrupted by the vampires. And so none of them actually
Starting point is 01:02:43 successfully chain themselves to the tree. And then as they're kind of like getting into a face-off with the vampires again, they all start to transform. And they all transform into werewolves. And it's a really scary scene because the werewolves are actually apparently very dangerous when they're in their werewolf state. And the vampires have the human camera crew with them and they've got Stu with them so there's a lot of people in danger here and they all run and again it's like another Blair Witch-esque like
Starting point is 01:03:11 running with cameras and like little flashes lighting up the scene they're all running from the werewolves and then Stu gets taken down and is killed by the werewolves apparently and disemboweled and the vampires managed to escape, but Nick is very bummed out because he's just seen his best friend be killed by
Starting point is 01:03:32 werewolves. And then there's a nice moment of character growth where Deacon, who has been like, like in conflict with Nick since Nick's introduction as the cool new vampire sits down with Nick and tries to comfort him about his friend having just been killed. And we're like, oh, okay. Deacon has some growth
Starting point is 01:03:51 potential here and he's trying to be the nice responsible older vampire to Nick now. But then the way that he tries to comfort him is very graphic and vampire-esque. He's very stark. He's like, this is just what it's like to be a vampire. All of your friends die, some of them brutally,
Starting point is 01:04:08 some of them in horrible murders, and that's just it. But he's saying it in a very sweet parental tone of voice the whole time. And I guess he kind of comforts him. It's also just such an interesting thing. I feel like this movie does such a good job of just, especially when you know it's improvised
Starting point is 01:04:23 and they had so much footage I'm going to sound like such a fucking loser right now talking about improv but but the whole deal with improv the base level of an idea is if this is true what else is true and so they just go like okay great vampires in society if that's true what else is true and just being like
Starting point is 01:04:39 oh yeah if you're a vampire and you're alive for a really long time you're going to watch everyone you know die like you're just over and over and over again. And just like, I love how they put every single piece of that puzzle into this movie in such a good way. Yeah. Cause it's true.
Starting point is 01:04:55 It's like, oh yeah, better get used to watching people you know die. Cause that's going to happen to everyone you know. For a comedy. It really does get into some of the more unfortunate aspects of what being a vampire would be like. Yeah! Like losing control of yourself as you get older and watching all your friends die. There are some really somber moments where they present very starkly what the life of a vampire would actually be, like growing out of touch with society and stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Which we get some hints of in other movies. I'm thinking of like Only Lovers Left Alive. There's kind of a thing there where they're like losing touch with society as they've gotten older. Immortality would suck. Yeah. So it's interesting seeing those more
Starting point is 01:05:36 serious or like somber moments, but they're still played for laughs in a lot of cases. Yeah. It ends with Stu being like, or with Deacon being like, if I know Stu, this is probably how he wanted to die. Just like brutally murdered in a field by werewolves.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Just disemboweled by werewolves. This is probably how he wanted to go. Oh, poor Stu. But then there is I believe another time skip after that. Yeah. And there's like a knock on the door like several months later.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And we see Nick and Stu at the door. Viago answers at the door and sees Nick and Stu. And he's very excited to see Stu alive. And it turns out that Stu actually did not die. He was just turned into a werewolf by the nice group of werewolves. And so he's one of the werewolves now. And he has like cool scars on his face. And I think Jermaine says that he looks like Seal, which is kind of funny.
Starting point is 01:06:37 There's a funny reenactment too of like what happened. It takes us back in time to see Stu's transformation and what happened like takes us back in time to see uh uh stew's transformation and like what happened and it does that kind of um slower black and white footage like a and it says reenactment underneath it's just like a very funny little documentary style take us back to how it happened it's very funny so yeah we find out that stew is in fact alive and is now a werewolf and everybody's very happy and i guess this whole last sequence kind of plays out like an epilogue of sorts. We find out that Stu is alive. We find out that Vladislav and Pauline have gotten back together.
Starting point is 01:07:15 But they've unfortunately fallen back into their old ways again of like, like a love-hate relationship. Tumultuous. Yeah, tumultuous. Their lovemaking turns into like fighting really quickly and they're like at each other's throats. So that probably won't work out for them. But we also find out that Viago,
Starting point is 01:07:38 who earlier in the film was able to track down his long-lost lover who he originally came to New Zealand from, I think he found her through Facebook or something when Stu shows them the internet. And he finds out that she lives in this retirement home in Wellington and she's like 90 now or something, 96. 96, yeah. And throughout the film, after finding out about that, he's been going and standing outside her window and looking up at her secretly. And in this epilogue, he finally enters her apartment and reconnects with her and brings her flowers. And they
Starting point is 01:08:11 fall in love again. And he turns her into a vampire. And so now he has this 96-year-old girlfriend. He looks like he's 30 or whatever. And his girlfriend is 96. And there's a joke where he's like, I know that some people would frown at the age difference, me being 390 and her being 96. They can call me cradle snatcher all they want. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:08:39 We're in love. Yeah. And so, yeah, we get like a, throughout the film, that's kind of been Viago's personal conflict is that he lost his love long ago and he's been pining after ever since. So he gets a happy ending with her. Vladislav gets a somewhat happy ending with his ex-girlfriend. Stu gets a happy ending because he's alive and gets to be a a werewolf now Nick is happy because his best friend is still around and uh Deacon I don't know if he really gets like a happy ending but I think the like the resolution for him is that he learns to be kind to Nick
Starting point is 01:09:20 basically and be like um more of like an older brother or something rather than a rival yeah and there's like a new truce kind of between werewolves and or this group of werewolves and vampires too Stu brings over all the werewolves from earlier Reese Darby and all of them and they come inside and say
Starting point is 01:09:39 you know at first it was hard and gross they smell like dogs but we opened the windows and the smell eventually went away. And so they can all be friends. And yeah, it's a nice. And it's very appropriate that it's Stu who bridges the gap because everybody loves Stu. He's so funny. He also does Stu.
Starting point is 01:09:59 He does have some lines, but he is so straight faced in all of it. And it's his character is just so funny it just yeah it's it's perfect it's perfect that everybody loves stew because he's very much just kind of like there in the corner being like hey yeah i also started to pick up on the what i think might be my theory is that they based the energy vampire in the show slightly on how Stu would describe the work he does.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's very boring and deadpan about it. He's like, I'm software engineering or data analysis. And it's like everybody couldn't care less about what he does when he describes it to them. I kind of feel like they expanded on that gag to make the energy vampire in the show. Because otherwise
Starting point is 01:10:48 I'm not sure. The energy vampire has no basis in the movie. Yeah, no, I think you're right. That makes a lot of sense. I bet that they did incorporate that for sure. Yeah. So yeah, and I think there's also a post-credit scene, which I didn't realize it was there.
Starting point is 01:11:04 And then I read on Wikipedia there's a post-credit scene, which I didn't realize it was there and then I read on Wikipedia there's a post-credit scene where Deacon tries to hypnotize the audience into forgetting everything they've just seen in the movie. I didn't watch that far, so I missed it as well. Yeah, me either. That's fun. I still have The Rental for another 24 hours, so maybe I gotta go back and watch it.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Yes, and that basically wraps up the film. I don't know if I'm forgetting anything else that does make sense because they gave away a lot of secrets of this secret society so a lot of secrets so they would want to make us forget
Starting point is 01:11:36 some murders a lot of stuff yeah yeah again just just leaning into the fact that it's it's a documentary and it's like acknowledged throughout the entire film that there's a camera crew there, which is like pretty funny. So funny. I love mockumentary style stuff. I know it's been overdone at this point, but good mockumentaries are just wonderful. Yeah, when it's done well, it really, really works.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I feel like this was like one of, I mean, I don't know. Was this one of the earlier ones? I feel like it was. I think the office had been on for a while before this. That's true. And the British office even was before that. I don't think it was as pervasive yet. It was like there had been those successful ones, but it wasn't the sort of thing where we were like, okay, I get it. Yeah. It was like
Starting point is 01:12:17 and then it hadn't really been done very much in popular movies and since maybe like Best in Show and This is Final Tap and those maybe like best in show and this is final tap. And that was like older, like Rob Reiner movies also, which are, which are very hilarious.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Yeah. So good. I was a fan of Schitt's Creek for a while. So seeing like, you know, Gene Levy and Catherine O'Hara in best in shows is very entertaining. Seeing them as a couple. So good.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Oh my God. So good. Oh, wow. This, oh, wow. I,
Starting point is 01:12:43 you know what? This was such a delight this was so much fun so fun to revisit this i rarely feel this light on my feet after the recording of an episode of this podcast did i watch pain and gain it's evaporated from my brain it's evaporated from my brain it's all what we do in the shadows i am thrilled What a delightful film. And yeah, I think it's one that listeners, I think you could, I think you could handle it. It's a great, a great horror comedy that is not too scary. Truly, truly one of the very best. Yeah, I appreciate the podcast making an exception for a more lighthearted film here.
Starting point is 01:13:21 We appreciate it as well. You all typically go into the scarier stuff, but yeah. And honestly, seeing some of your recaps now, I'm really tempted to get more into the horror genre and go back and watch some of these films that I've avoided. Yeah, I mean, that's what you gotta do. You gotta listen to an episode and decide. It does help to
Starting point is 01:13:37 have heard about it first. If you want to move forward into visual territory. Reza, thank you so much for doing this uh this was yeah really really delightful and i just want to ask you about poorly drawn lines in general i also i know it's a series now as well and we have betsy sodaro on the podcast a lot and i know she's a voice in it tell us a little little about Poorly Drawn Lines. Tell us about it. Yeah, so it mainly has existed as a webcomic for many years.
Starting point is 01:14:11 I've been doing it for like a little over 10 years now. And then we adapted it into an animated series for FX's Cake. And now you can watch the whole series as a standalone series on Hulu. It's called Poorly Drawn Lines. And yeah, it stars Desi Sedaro as one of the main cast. We've got
Starting point is 01:14:33 Darcy Carden from The Good Place as one of the main cast. Ron Funches as Kevin, who's one of my main characters. And also Tony Revolu from Spider-Man and Grand Budapest Hotel. And yes, it was a lot of fun to adapt the comic into a TV series, and I got to write every episode.
Starting point is 01:14:54 And I'm going to do more of it. We're kind of waiting to see if we'll get to make more. But if not, I definitely want to do another animated project after this, probably based on different characters from my comic or something. That's so fun. That's awesome. Okay. And then where can people find you on,
Starting point is 01:15:10 on line and Instagram and that kind of thing? You can find me on Instagram at poorly drawn lines, Instagram.com slash poorly drawn lines. If you're in our browser, more likely you'll just search poorly drawn lines one word on Instagram and I'll pop up. I'm on Twitter at PDL Comics and
Starting point is 01:15:31 I'm on Facebook at the page is just called poorly drawn lines. And I'm trying to get on TikTok too but I can't hear the username yet. It's a challenge, man. It's so hard. It wasn't built for us. We're trying as well. It's hard.
Starting point is 01:15:47 It's harder than it seems like it should be. It's not intuitive. It would mean pivoting into video, which is not really my thing outside of the animation. I don't really want to make videos myself. Yeah, it's a lot of work. I don't know how Gen Z does it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Okay, great. Well, we've got a lot of freaking accents to choose from here for our sign-off. I don't know how Gen Z does it Yeah Okay great well We've got a lot of freaking accents To choose from here for our sign off We really do Like I said I can only really do Deacons I think I could do more but the thing about my accents Is I need to get into them and Right you need to remember the lines
Starting point is 01:16:19 And yeah when there's a lot of accents Happening at once I blend them all together In my mind and so it's gonna be It's gonna be, but I'm going to give Deacon my best shot. Here we go. Okay, okay. I'm glad to know that you think I am cool. Okay. From all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch.
Starting point is 01:16:37 I like that. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Yeah. Yeah. Goodbye.
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