Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - 70s Stars = 80s Chart Toppers: Toronto Mike'd #634
Episode Date: May 1, 2020Mike kicks out songs from 70s stars who had success in the 80s with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon....
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I'm Mike from torontomike.com
and joining me for Pandemic Fridays
are Stu Stone
and Cam Gordon.
Huss! Huss! Huss!
Huss!
Welcome, guys. Nice to see you again.
Yes, holy smokes.
I can't believe that we get...
We are seeing you again, and it looks like
you've got another
seven episodes of
the pandemic edition at least to go
from what I'm reading. Yeah, Mike, I think
you need to announce you're releasing your models for how much
longer we're doing this.
I would be interested in taking a look at those. Although I,
this is definitely a highlight of my week.
Definitely the most LOLs I have every week.
I also think it's like sticks a pin mark in my weekly feeling of like,
holy shit, time is going fast. Like fast like yeah we are like sitting around doing
nothing but we just blinked in like seven weeks went by oh i agree i agree and i do i look at it
as like a marker like a signpost of sorts where i think on like a thursday night i'm like oh
tomorrow we do the stew cam pandemic friday episode and i realize like another week
has he left gone by yeah that's what i'm. It feels like we just did this yesterday and the day before.
Like, you know, I feel like I have known Leva Fumka for, you know, six months.
I've known her for six days.
So it is what it is.
But, you know, obviously it's great that it is.
But I just want to, you know, thank you again.
And I'm sure the listeners are happy.
And I guess, you know, you're releasing episodes all the time.
So you're flying through, you know, your episodes and you've had, you know, had some big gets this week.
But I would have to say that these Friday shows have been a highlight, hopefully not just for us.
And hopefully the listeners as well are enjoying it as much as we are enjoying doing it.
enjoying it as much as we are enjoying doing it.
I'd say the only thing I enjoy more about more than recording this show is the 1037 Eastern time email I get every Friday from Stu saying,
where the fuck's the zoom link? I do enjoy that too. That's a lot of fun.
Well, you know, consistency is key in podcasting as Mike can attest.
And you know, I'm just being consistent.
It's all good. All good. I like it. And you you know, I'm just being consistent. It's all good. All good.
I like it.
And you guys know,
I don't actually,
I don't have any more preference in my heart for like a Stephen Page on
Toronto Mike than I do for a Stu and a Cam.
Like to me,
well,
actually possibly I prefer you guys possibly don't tell Stephen that,
but I did enjoy,
I did enjoy that conversation with Stephen Page.
Did anyone on this call?
Well, quick pin in that because I do want to say hi to the two people lurking in the background of this Zoom call.
You mentioned Lieve Fumke, Stu.
So let's just say hello.
Her second appearance, although properly muted as directed.
Thank you.
But let's hear her now.
Hello, Lieve Fumke.
Hello, everyone.
You look more casual today.
Like maybe you're less busy today.
No, I'm busy.
Okay.
Well, you're on a couch.
I feel like you were at a table or something last time.
But maybe I'm misremembering.
Fridays are for wearing clothes.
I know that me and Levi Fumka
both have that written down in our calendar.
Friday, get dressed.
Stu texted me this morning
to tell me to get dressed.
Well, it's a reminder.
You got the garbage day prompt.
Oh, I'm glad you mentioned garbage day
because I want to...
Hide your junk.
Well, for Stu at least because I want to... Hide your junk. Hide your junk. Get it?
Well, for Stu, at least.
I want to call out... It's been called junk.
Yes.
I want to call out somebody who's on this Zoom call with us now.
I know him as...
Are you talking about Timmy?
I see he changed his name in the Zoom call to Not Tim.
He is Ian Service.
And I just want to say I saw a tweet from Ian in which he was
correctly encouraging people to sign up for the Garbage Day service, but he didn't use the right
link. He used another link. So I just want to chastise Ian for a moment and ask where is the
love because the proper link for people to sign up for garbage day which
everybody should do right now is garbage day.com slash toronto mike ian what do you have to say
for yourself i'm just doing my part i gotta i gotta promote everybody so you know start with
one and move on to the next and keep going wow that's a quality sound over there he's got a
microphone like this guy's like got the right
equipment met with a little bit of training yeah quite a set of pipes on this young man yeah there
could be a future in this man's career he's got a face for broadcasting maybe i'll start my own
podcast and then i'll leave my own garbage day link i think that it's only you've got a very
soft-spoken calming kind of voice especially during this stressful times i think it'd be nice
to hear you read the works of
maybe some Curious George or
Corduroy Bear, just to start.
Wouldn't that be shooting, Cam?
Like reading a book before bed?
Yeah, and I was going to say
all that Abestas
that he
ensconces himself in every week
is clearly doing wonders.
My wife told me to finish,
finish this corner of the basement for your benefit.
Thank you.
I think that installation is providing the good acoustics.
Like I think that might be part of the,
uh,
no.
What is,
is that like a dog fighting room?
Like what is that?
Who let the dogs out?
Who let the dogs out? Oh. Who let the dogs out who let the dogs out
who let the dogs out
who let the dogs out
who let the dogs out
Cam you gotta keep up with me buddy
we're moving a mile a minute here
I'm playing some Baja Men
yeah it's ironic you play who let the dogs out
in a Lifke Funkers thing
a cat literally just walked by.
Wait, what is the significance of playing the Baja
Men other than the fact that this song is a cover?
Oh,
snap. That's true. It is a cover.
That's for a previous episode, though.
Cam's going to do a twofer here.
He's going to explain why I'm playing the Baja
Men, and then he's going to explain
the theme for today's
jam kicking. Oh, no. Stu should Okay, Cam, tell us why I'm playing Baja Men and then he's going to explain the theme for today's jam kicking oh no
Stu should okay Cam tell us why I'm playing
Baja Men and then I want Stu to explain
today's theme because he's the one who
came up with it yeah so
I mean it's no quote tweet from
on Vogue but our big
for Stu and Mike and I
our big Twitter celebrity interaction last
week was the official Twitter account
of the Baja men liking my tweet promoting last week's episode.
So that was definitely a big moment.
It seems every week we have another big celebrity interaction.
And who knew the Baja men active on Twitter.
And you know what?
To quote the great Baja men, a doggie is nothing if you don't have a bone go doggy get
that bone go doggy get them they gave us a bone this week and they've made us doggies officially
they gave us a bone they clicked like and now when they're asking who let the dogs out they're
also referring to us we we are now let out metaphorically speaking so to speak yes yes
uh why don't we okay do they have a second song because
this one is really a classic no there's no second baja man uh jam no i don't think i think there
were like versions of this song that were in like pixar movies like i feel like some of those there
was like but i don't think i think as this was a cover just to based on conversations with drummers
of other bands baja man probably doesn't get paid when other bands cover this song.
Drummers of other bands.
By the way, Nat, I want to shout out the song Navied because I think it was Hebsey was talking about on Twitter.
Hebsey was talking that when he goes for a run, he likes the song Navied in the mix because I guess it's got that.
And I was thinking it really is a great song.
No, you know what?
Yeah.
Wait.
Yeah, Navi.
That's the song.
Okay.
I don't want to mix up my Our Lady Peace.
Sorry.
We're talking Our Lady Peace here?
Right.
Yes.
Okay.
Because he alluded to a drummer in another band who would suggest that Baja Man does not.
Oh, no, no, no.
I was talking about Don Henley, the drummer of the Eagles, which if you were to survey
a hundred people and ask them to name the drummer of the Eagles, which if you were to survey, if you were to survey a hundred people and ask them to name the drummer of the
Eagles, I bet you it's very similar results to the,
who is the bass player for the Beatles conversation with today's youth.
They don't know that Paul McCartney was the bass player and they don't know
Don Henley was a drummer.
A lot of ignorance out there. Stu, now can you explain to us?
I just blew Cam's mind. He didn't know.
No, I had no idea. I don't just blew Cam's mind. He didn't know. No. Had no idea.
I don't think I ever considered that, actually. You're right.
Because we're a little young for
Eagles. Okay.
Because the Eagles are
famous as a 70s
band, even though some members of
the Eagles went solo
and had hits in the 80s.
I see what you're getting at here.
And Don Henley,
not the only 70s drummer from a band to make it big in the 80s.
Right.
Now, on that note, please, for the listenership,
as Scruff would say, could you please explain
the theme of today's jam kicking?
Yes.
This week's show, basically, it seems like every week when we're talking about these songs and breaking down these songs,
there's at least one or two artists that sort of qualify.
And we always sort of bring up this love affair that we have for the late 80s or mid to mid to late 80s era,
where A&R is that record companies were dusting off 70s acts to try to to make money.
And in a lot of cases, it did work.
And I think today will be an example of times that it did work, not that it did not work,
because that would be a different topic. Because today's topic is 70s stars with 80s hits.
70s stars. Now, I need a clarification on one point, Cam confused me via Twitter and I can't remember if you
blessed this or not, but do they have to be
70s stars that were in a band in the 70s?
No. 70s
stars that
have 80s hits.
Okay. Now,
it'll be fun to... I picked
a lot of bands. Yeah, I did too.
I think. I think maybe we all did.
Yeah, because it
was commonplace uh for a a member of a 70s band to have a solo hit in the 1980s now that would
have been a more specific category 70s acts solo acts to have hits i was actually thinking of doing
a category of solo acts that did not work yeah i I have a couple of solo artists in the mix here.
But you never know.
It's usually these organic conversations about the songs that end up prompting future topics.
Oh, yeah.
No doubt.
Speaking of past, here's speaking of future topics.
I'm going to go back to the past.
We need a little resolution before I give a special shout out to the new sponsor.
It's not every day I get to announce a new
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Right.
So Cam is referencing May Day, May Day.
That was Rick Chenarette, right?
Yeah, Rick Chenarette.
La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
Mo, I don't know.
Did he have a McGilney thing?
I can't remember now.
But he, McGilney.
May Day, May Day, May Day. McGilney thing? I can't remember now. But he... Ray Day! Ray Day!
Ray Day!
McGilney had 76 goals one season.
Think about that.
Thanks to Pat LaFontaine.
Think about that.
How good was Pat LaFontaine
that McGilney got 76 goals?
That's like a Kevin Stevens type stat.
That was a hell of a team.
It really was.
They even had your boy
Dale Hauercheck on there.
Was Uwe Krupp still around?
Uwe Krupp.
Yeah, David. Was Grant Fier? Grant Fier was on the team. Grant Fier was the goalie? boy del howard check on there that's right was it uli krupp still around we grew he got david
david was great grant fear was on the team here was the bully yeah okay because when did uh i was
actually looking up uh i we're getting on a tangent here and shout out to the hebsey man
but i was you know they're showing all these uh you know in the first three weeks of the pandemic
it was watching uh raptors and blue jays and now we've gone through the leafs and it seems like sports
net is now showing edmonton oilers games all the time and i'm seeing a cool edmonton oilers
playoff games this week but i went and looked it up just because i was curious but after the
gretzky trade it's so funny and it kind of ties into today's episode the anrs are sort of like
the general manager of the la kings in the sense that the LA Kings management became so,
had such a lack of imagination that they kept trying to recreate the magic of the Oilers.
They brought Charlie Huddy over. They brought Paul Coffey. Even Grant Fuhrer came over at one
point. There's more players that I'm not listening to. I don't have it in front of me, but there was
a lot. Yari Curry came to the Kings. they did their best to try to recreate what worked in the past and that is exactly what we're gonna talk about here today
i love it but quickly we go back and i need i need a little resolution because people have
been discussing amongst chess is not a sport right yeah yes thank you thank you uh let us
just briefly address that little controversial item for last week before we move on to create
new ones but uh i stated maybe a little controversially i stated that uh chess was
more of a sport than wwe wrestling and i i will say a week later after reflecting
i believe it to be more true than ever so i believe in my heart and my soul doubling down
i'm doubling down now i mean how did you break your wrist?
Did you do that in a chest injury?
You're confusing athleticism with sport is what you're doing.
No, I think you're confusing that athleticism is the root of sport.
Have you ever seen ice capades?
Okay, okay.
You already brought that up before.
Ice capades is not the word sport.
They don't call that sports entertainment.
I think Stu articulated this very well in a tweet in one of these many replies.
Let's be clear. This blew up the internet last weekend.
Stu articulated it very well.
The question here is not, is this a sport? Is this a sport?
Comparing these two things, which one is more of a sport?
Correct.
That's the question.
Right.
Yeah, phrasing is important.
89 people voted in this.
Also, 89, Alexander McGilney.
So let's tie that in there.
Yes, yes.
62% of the Twitterverse said pro wrestling is more of a sport than chess.
Much like En Vogue dove in
to resolve that debate
Twitter has spoken
polling is now closed if I may
if I may the
the camps do no no we always
allow the losers of these debates to say
one last final like miserable word go ahead
and remember I'm the only one who controls
all the mute buttons which is a great power
but if I may the only one who controls all the mute buttons, which is a great power. But if I may, the StuFam fan club, if you will, on the Internet is highly disposed to pro wrestling.
Like it really in the Venn diagram of pro wrestling fans and the Stu Stone Cam Gordon fans.
It's like one big circle.
Cam Gordon fans.
It's like one big circle. So that to me,
that's a very kind of a,
that,
uh,
pool from which we drew the voters that have decided like 60% or whatever
said that.
Wait,
so you think that Cam's followers from like Cam Twitter,
Canada,
Cam's account is like loaded with wrestling fans.
Well,
you know,
you've got you,
as you know,
you've got a legion of fans yourself and they're all big.
Legion of doom.
So all I'm going to say...
I will say half the people
that follow me on Twitter
are just people asking
to be verified.
So not necessarily predisposed.
Can you get me verified?
Those people are wrestling fans.
Some of them are.
Can we get Stu Stone verified?
Like, forget me for a minute.
I'm verified.
What's the problem?
Is that true?
What do you mean?
So what was your angle in?
Was it the...
I didn't have an angle.
I woke up and I was verified.
All right, now I feel bad.
Okay, we got to get Ian Service
and his Cavs verified on Twitter.
Okay, so for the record...
That'd be fantastic.
For the record,
and to close the loop on this,
the way I think of it is
the predetermined outcome...
When you're on the Edison twins,
you get verified.
Yeah, fuck Donnie Darko, man.
I love the Edison Twins.
Now, if you have predetermined outcomes,
you are now disqualified from being a sport.
So now you're out of the equation.
So if we look at chess, you can now have a debate.
I'm not suggesting that for sure chess might be a sport.
It is more of a sport
than WWE wrestling because
the outcomes are not predetermined.
That's my mindset on this.
May I just...
Here is the thing.
There are things that sports have
in common with chess
because most sports
are wrapped around a game.
Chess is a game. Baseball is a game. Chess is a game.
Baseball is a game.
Ping pong is a game.
These are all games.
I'd say life's a game.
Now, in these structured games with winners and losers,
some of these games require athleticism and sport in order to –
that's what takes a game from a game to a sport.
Chess is a mental sport, maybe.
And also for the sake of this argument, you know, maybe chess is a sport,
but when you're going to bash wrestling and play one night in Bangkok as the
song about sports, you're going to get lambast.
It's very rare me and camera on the same side of something.
I am surprised.
I know it.
That should show you how wrong you
truly are here when even cam is siding with me that pigs are flying yeah i mean stew and i always
work that strong style uh work very snug with each other uh to use a pro wrestling term
oh you guys okay so uh to be continued right? I played chess, by the way, and I'd be
happy to play you live
at the next
Mike live event.
I think he was one of the co-captains
of the Henderson Avenue Public
School chess team from
1988, 1989, and 1990.
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That is actually really important, everybody, if you don't know by now.
So I do want to, on that note, I want to...
Whose dinging is that?
Is somebody's microwave going off?
Possible fire alarm about to happen.
Here, I'll mute.
Go ahead.
Unless you want to hear...
Oh, keep it on.
I mean, okay, mute it while I talk and then bring it back.
Hopefully you don't have to vacate
the fire alarm's about to go off here on and off for the next five minutes so I'll mute if it goes
on okay it's all part of the live uh excitement here so you meet yourself it sounds like craft
work yeah we talked about craft work this guy has a fountain of charisma, the announcer here. Attention, there is a fire alarm test happening right now.
I think this is the robot man reboot.
I am the computer man.
Oh, computer man, oh my God.
I can do anything.
There it is, guys.
I think that's the Stu Stone.
Don't make a mistake.
You know what that sound means.
It's time for our giveaway of the week did you guys catch the opening of the steven page episode of toronto
mic in which we talked about i'm gonna mute you guys talk about steven page okay uh cam did you
we talked i hope i decided to open with bumper stumpers because i like the call yeah
and steven and his buddy just wanted to get on the show to dance to that jam like that was the entire
like impetus behind getting on bumper stumbers he so he got on and i opened with it because a
that's a cool fucking story they're not covering in like uh the toronto star or whatever like
they're they're they're missing the lead they're whatever but um yeah and first dumpers with the
game show where they show you like a license
plate,
you have to figure out what it says and then what the occupation is like,
Oh,
tooth lever dentist.
I don't think you needed to do that second part.
Didn't you just have to crack the code of what the license plate said?
I think it was,
you have to crack the code was like a riddle was crack the code.
It was a riddle to determine the answer to a question.
It was kind of like low-rent rebus, essentially.
The most shocking thing about that, his tale about going on bumper-stumpers,
was it was at the same global studio on Barber Green where they still film stuff.
I've actually been to that studio for work quite a few times.
It's where they shoot Entertainment Tonight Canada and some of the global news.
Still there.
Mike, have you ever been there?
Like that global studio?
It's really weird because it's basically in a subdivision.
And then all of a sudden there's a studio.
Well, I need to know.
Is that where Sportsline was filmed?
Yeah, probably.
Like I say, it's the main global studio.
I mean, they do like the morning show and whatnot in the chorus building.
But they still do a lot of stuff.
It's up in kind of like East York area,
not far from where Stu and I recorded a overtime sports talk,
probably about like 10 minutes from there.
And that was Newton cable,
right?
Newton cable.
Yes.
Wow.
I love these,
uh,
how everything comes full circle,
but,
uh,
Cam,
before I welcome our new sponsor,
which I'm excited to do,
do you have any feedback you want to share with regards to the,
the,
the many episodes of Toronto Mike that have dropped since your last Friday
pandemic appearance? Yeah, no, I've been burning through them
as I'm working out and getting out for groceries, standing in grocery lines
and whatnot. Yeah, I mean, 1236 brought
it as always. I enjoyed his commentary on
these Pandemic Friday episodes and gave Stu Stone a lot of love on it, too.
Oh, yeah.
You know, a lot of Bill Withers talk.
I mean, Bill Withers could be someone we discussed on this.
I'd be surprised if we get to him today, but could be a candidate.
Yeah, Stephen Page episode, I thought you did a great job.
I liked, he brought a lot of
lovely day there was
no Bill Withers 80s hit
well that's that song that you
played at the end was not a hit
we got a cat yeah I guess hit
is yeah
that's why Cam's gonna have
a problem with this week's episode
Cam wouldn't know a hit if it hit him in the face
the cat just walked by leave a fumka screen like she's gone but you're right i just saw the the the
as my daughter would say the kitty cat cam is more of a b-side c-side d-side e-sides kind of guy
okay uh and so why don't we get into this episode okay we're gonna get into it i want to welcome
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Now, Stu, is that fire alarm done, or is it just going to be intermittent?
Fire alarm appears to be off.
Okay, so let's kick them out.
Cam should go first.
We should go in a normal order, which has Kim leading us off,
right?
Oh,
well,
that's lead off.
That's lead off hitter since Ricky Henderson.
Yeah.
I was going to send the,
the Devon white of the,
uh,
the pandemic Fridays.
I thought you were going to say that cam Gordon is the best lead off his,
uh,
hitter since Damaso Garcia.
Yeah.
I was going to say,
by the way,
one final comment,
then let's get the ball rolling.
But it wasn't really my
heyday, but I do feel like Hebsey's claim
that he was such a shitty leadoff hitter
is a bit unfair.
I mean, Damo
had a certain skill set.
I don't know.
I think that Toronto fans were
so enamored with him
that he's one of those things that
appeared to be better than it was. I think that's
fair. But to say he's complete garbage
day. If you speak
to people about all-time
great hockey players, like Wendell Clark's
name does not come up unless you're in Toronto.
Right. Well, even then, it rarely
comes up, actually. But yeah, I get your point.
He was inflated because he was the best
we had. Just one quick note on that,
though. You want your leadoff batter to get on base. He was inflated because he was the best we had. Just one quick note on that, though.
You want your leadoff batter to get on base.
Like, they need to take walks.
They can't be swinging away at bad pitches.
So I think the reason Hebsey says he's the worst leadoff hitter in Blue Jay history
and swears by it is that Damaso Garcia did not get on base.
He had a decent batting average, but not a good on-base percentage.
Yeah, I mean, it sort of gets into a philosophical thing.
I mean, should John Olrud have been like a leadoff hitter?
No, and didn't Gibby, our old pal Gibby,
used to put Russell Martin and Jose Batista in the leadoff spot for that stat?
How'd that work out?
Well, on that note, let's kick out Cam Gordon's first jam.
It's a rhetorical question. on that note, let's kick out Cam Gordon's first jam.
It's a rhetorical question.
I'm sure it'll
kick out any moment now.
Hi, honey.
Oh.
No.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Hey, stupid.
What do you think you're doing?
Hey, stupid. Was, stupid was a hit?
Okay, let it go, Stu.
Do you have a beef with this?
I think it completely qualifies.
I think it's an appropriate selection.
I mean, is it a hit or is it a song that was on the Wayne's World soundtrack?
It was a rock hit.
This is not necessarily Billboard Hot 100 hit.
Was this a rock hit?
I heard it on Q107 all the time.
Really?
Although I was surprised.
Is Alice Cooper Hey Stupid?
Correct.
Yeah, Hey Stupid.
It was a hit.
It was on Much Music a lot, too.
In fact, you heard all that talking at the beginning because I ripped it from the video.
But if I may, I'm going to stop saying that
because it is May 1st, so it's appropriate I say,
if it's May here, it's got to be May.
I was surprised you didn't pick a cut from Trash,
the much better 80s Alice Cooper album.
Yeah, I mean, there was a few Alice Cooper tracks
I considered.
Your Poison or whatever that song was.
Your Poison.
That song was a hit.
Yeah.
This song was just a song that was a complimentary track on the Wayne's World album.
Hey Stupid.
Hey Stupid was a hit.
Yes.
Yeah.
And by the way, the first one, I wasn't referring to the song.
FYI.
I know.
I cut.
I read between the lines there.
Okay.
I remember this as
a rock hit of its time.
Okay, fair.
In fairness,
one of the reasons I put Alice Cooper
on this list,
let's get back to wrestling.
WrestleMania 3 comes to the ring with Jake the Snake.
Sure does.
I had no idea who Alice Cooper was.
I thought he was a new manager when I saw him was I thought he was a new manager
when I saw him
I thought he was going to be
the nemesis for Jimmy Hart
I had no idea who that guy was
Alice Cooper
was one of the
shock rock pioneers
his music
isn't particularly wild
but his persona is wild you know i've heard
much wilder rock and it's like kiss it's a similar kind of thing where the music is
is good like it's but it's pop it's like pop rock but you don't it but they're it's the persona that
really sells you right is that alice cooper's kind of thing yeah i think that's fair i think
david bowie is probably a rare guy that nailed both
well i mean it's it's interesting because i think alice cooper gets lumped in with
hard rock and even heavy metal in the 70s and like his music is not heavy at all what i was
gonna say yeah it's quite tame to be honest i had the uh i was a big fan of the greatest hits which
was the early days of alice cooper you know, I'm 18 and, you know,
under my wheels and election and all that kind of stuff.
I loved it passionately, but you're right.
It sounded like you were listening to James Taylor, right?
If James Taylor was like wearing like goth stuff and leather
and had like fake blood or something,
like Alice Cooper was just a singer songwriter from...
He was a good worker,
man,
had a gimmick and knew how to push it. And like kiss did it much bigger,
but that Wayne's world soundtrack is probably a roadmap of sorts for this
category.
There's like a lot of bands that were dusted off.
Cause obviously maybe I'm sure Mike Myers and Dana Carvey maybe had some
influence on the selections,
but lots of seventies songs and seventies acts appearing on the Wayne's
world soundtrack,
including Bohemian Rhapsody got a huge run back in the top 10 again from the
Wayne's world soundtrack.
Well,
I was going to say Alice Cooper,
I feel like a lot of the veneer came off for him when people discovered what a
good golfer he was.
Similar to another, one of our indie rock heroes, for him when people discovered what a good golfer he was.
Similar to another one of our indie rock heroes,
Jay Maskis of Dinosaur Jr., who famously had a golf-based video for Field of Fame.
Isn't also Alice Cooper a preacher now
or a proprietor of a church or something like that?
No.
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I think so.
Okay, a few things on Alice, because I was a big fan.
And yes, Cam, you're right.
Hey Stupid was a much music and rock radio hit.
So completely qualified.
I don't know why Stu doesn't remember that.
Maybe he won't.
No, I remember the song.
I just, it's just working stuff.
Don't worry.
It was a bonafide hit.
Not the bonafide hit.
Hey, listen, if I know what it is right away, it's a hit.
And it's totally appropriate.
In fact, I had an Alice Cooper jam in my list until I saw Cam submitted one, and I removed it.
I was going to kick out, I might as well tell you.
Do you guys remember his duet, if you will, with Steven Tyler, It's Only My Heart Talking?
No.
It's only, only, only, only my heart talking.
And I won't go into saying things i never thought i'd say
anyways it was a rock radio hit at the time uh when did that come out i don't know it was on
trash wait steven tyler who's he again he he qualifies right so good choice alice cooper
because as we talked on this show before as we've mentioned before alice cooper was the name of the
band and he just took the name of the band and made it
his name.
Catherine Weald, the James Gang.
Marilyn Manson.
Good choice to kick us
off, Cam. I like hearing something else.
Alice Cooper definitely has a wrestling connection
that will automatically endear him
to my heart and all of Cam's followers
on Twitter, apparently.
Listen, that's a 70s start with an 80s hit.
I think more kids just remember the opening of that song and then fast
forwarding to Bohemian Rhapsody.
I think that's fair.
I think that's actually fair.
Oh, wow.
All right.
This is my jam right here.
A lot of fun facts to throw your way on this one, guys.
I'll let it play for a minute, though. I will get by.
I will get by I will get by
All right, so what we have here, Mike, is The Grateful Dead.
Lots of fun facts about this song.
This song was their first ever music video, their first ever
top 10 entry in the Billboard Hot 100, and their first ever number one song on
the rock chart. So here is an example of a 70s act getting dusted off and it working.
Absolutely.
Stu, this is the only song that 99% of the populace can name from the Grateful Dead.
Well, it certainly propelled them from touring hippie act to mainstream-ish.
You know, it certainly brought a lot of deadheads out of the closet.
And, you know, they were able to put the stickers on their Cadillacs.
In fact, you're a big music fan.
Are you able to name a second song?
Of course, I'm familiar with it. I went to Thorne Lee, so I know Grateful Dead music,
which is Thorne Lee, for those that don't know,
a very Grateful Dead fish-centric high school within a certain demographic.
I wouldn't say that me and Cam swim in that water,
but we were aware of it.
And of course, you know, the Grateful Dead, man.
Before Kiss, Grateful Dead's logo was the one that was the,
I mean, Rolling Stones and Grateful Dead and Kiss.
I mean, Grateful Dead is probably one of the best marketed,
marketed acts there is.
I mean, they never had songs on the radio and they sold out all their tours
and made millions of dollars without any
hits. Right. Because even the
Allman Brothers had radio hits.
You can name a couple of Allman Brothers
songs you'd hear on the radio, but this is the
only, unless you're a deadhead,
this is the only jam you know.
And to deadheads, this
smells like teen spirit. They don't even want to hear it.
You know what a good example is? Here's a good example.
Like Radiohead, Creep,
Back Loser. No, you know what's better?
What do you guys think is the biggest
Chuck Berry hit?
Well, I know
because I listen to your podcast, My Dingaling.
Correctamundo.
I didn't know that.
I thought it would be Johnny B. Goode or something.
Of course.
You see right there, My Dingaling.
Right.
So you're saying to me, if I hear you right,
you're saying this is the Grateful Dead's My Dingaling?
No, no.
This is a good song, guys.
Come on.
This is a good song.
And maybe as a kid, you rebelled against this kind of song because you were waiting for Madonna or Billy Idol to come on. No, This is a good song. And maybe as a kid it didn't... You rebelled against this kind of song
because you were waiting for Madonna or Billy Idol
to come on. No, it's a great song.
I was going to say, you know what the best place
to see this song when we were kids was?
In Adam Seidenberg's basement.
Okay, second best place to see it,
yes, you're right, would be on the
annual Halloween episode
of Video Hits with Samantha Taylor
because she would
show scary videos.
Yeah.
And this had a lot of skeletons.
And I know I was pretty fucking scared of this video when I was young.
Pretty cool video in the sense that how they pulled it off.
Uh,
like that's all,
uh,
practical,
you know,
they had to have marionette kind of dudes.
Practical effects.
Yeah.
Sure. it's funny
that the first two jams we've kicked out in this episode would both be appropriate for a halloween
themed uh video show because alice cooper i think if you were to go to an alice cooper if you were
to go to an alice cooper halloween show and a grateful dead halloween show those are two
completely different experiences probably i. I think so.
You may not remember one of them.
And Stu, who in the video was wearing the Boston
Celtics jacket? I think it was Phil Lesh,
or... I don't remember.
Don't remember that? Okay.
I'll ping Seidenberg.
Are you Stu and Cam,
are you guys watching The Last Dance
on Netflix? Of course.
Yeah, I've just seen the first two episodes.
I'm going to be watching.
You know, I'm a little,
when it's safe to talk about, Cam,
I have some suspicions that I want to talk about
as far as that movie goes.
Oh, okay.
Just closing the book on this Grateful Dead entry,
of course, Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream.
If you're a fan of ice cream, Ben and Jerry, that's Grateful Dead.
No, it's not.
Yeah, but it's called Cherry Garcia.
Yeah, but I'm saying like they're clearly Deadhead fans.
They also have fish food.
Well, there's also a hair salon near Trini Bellwoods Park.
I'm not sure if it's there anymore, called Grateful Head.
Have you guys seen this?
I thought that was a spa.
How was I going to say it? It sounds also
like perhaps an adult-focused
website. A rub-and-tug, I think, is a proper term.
Rub-and-tug.
And I honestly, I've never been
to a rub-and-tug, but I hear
they're all around me.
Well, they're loud.
They are loud. But how do you know the difference?
I've never gone, but my wife goes for massages. She, they're loud. They are loud. But how do you know the difference? Like, seriously, I've never gone,
but my wife goes for massages.
Like, she uses, she gets like, I don't know,
500 bucks a year for massages. Oh, yeah, your wife's going to Rub and Tugs.
How do you know the difference?
Trying to make working blue here.
Here we go.
Those are Rub and Rubs.
How do you know the difference
between a proper place
where they'll give you a massage
and no funny business
and a place that will ask you
if you want a happy ending.
Why don't you ask
Ralph Ben-Murdy?
You gotta throw in
alleged... You can't say
those things. It's a joke.
It's a joke. He knows a joke. You got me sued for saying
Wayne Gretzky was on steroids.
I was gonna say, if they can provide you a receipt
so you can submit to your insurance company,
then that's a good... But how do you know before you go in the door?
Is there, is it, because I have a thought
that maybe the rub and tug places...
I can tell you right now. I can tell you.
Let's take this offline.
I can tell you real quick. I've read. Okay.
I'm ready.
If they charge you
money at the door
for, that's above
$50. If they charge you $60, $70, $80, $100, $200 at the door for that's above $50. If they charge you 60,
70,
80,
a hundred,
$200 at the door,
it is not a rub and tug.
If they charge you a smaller fee at the door and then you are to negotiate
whatever the rest of it is beyond the door,
then it is a rub and tug.
I'm going to go on mute.
I'll be back in a second.
Okay.
I hate to correct you, Stu, because you're so wise.
I'm just joking.
I'm assuming.
Because I think there's a way to know before you get to the door.
And I think the way is if you see neon lights, like the legitimate massage parlors, if you will, don't use neon in their sign.
So if you see neon lights in the sign, that means it's…
I don't know.
I think that's a disparaging remark to my cousin neon lights in the sign, that means it's I don't know. I think that's a
disparaging remark to my cousin who's in the neon
industry, and he makes plenty of
open signs for plenty of establishments that
don't offer adult
contact.
Anyway, I hear music. What's
this tune?
This is music you might hear in a rub and tug.
It needs a minute to breathe, please.
I can see it now.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
Is this a Sopranos theme?
Yeah, Leonard Cohen.
Is this a hit. I'll come back up when he gets into it.
But yes, it's a hit.
Is it?
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, I know this song.
So, The Baja men.
Okay, now, since it's my jam, I get to talk first,
which is to say that this is a founding member of a 60s and 70s band.
Let's not forget the 60s, but the band.
This is Robbie Robertson.
Yes, it's CanCon.
Also a big-time 60s and 70s rock band, the band.
And this was a Canadian hit He had a couple of big hits off this album
And this was one of them
Somewhere Down the Crazy River
Totally qualifies
And it's a great song
Wait, is it a Leonard Cohen song or a Robbie Robertson song?
Do you think everyone with a gravelly voice is Leonard Cohen?
It's Lou Reed, I think.
Do you think Tom Waits is Leonard Cohen?
Like, it's Robbie Robertson.
Wait, it's Robbie Robertson talking at the beginning also?
Yeah, I thought it was Ian Service.
Not Tim, though.
Okay, so... This still gets a lot of spins on you. Wait, wait, so that's not Leonard Cohen. Ian Service. Not Tim, though. Okay.
This still gets a lot of spins on you.
Wait, wait.
So that's not Leonard Cohen.
Cam and I both thought
that that was Leonard Cohen.
I know.
Fuck off.
I did not.
I knew this was Robbie Robertson.
And it's not Chris Christopherson
either, Stu.
You know, that reference you make
to Leonard Cohen
doing the Sopranos theme song
was mentioned by Mark Weisblatt
on the most recent episode of the 1236 Toronto Mic episode.
He referenced it because it's become such a referenceable point.
It's his favorite stewstone gaffe.
Are you being serious right now that you thought this was Leonard Cohen or are you doing a bit?
Listen, man, I'm pro wrestling, man.
I'm blurring the reality.
What's real, what's not.
You'll never really know. I hate that. It's like Andrew Crystal. I the reality. What's real, what's not. You'll never really know.
I hate that.
It's like Andrew Crystal.
I don't know anymore.
Like, what's going on?
Levi Fumke did not like the Andrew Crystal episode of Toronto Mike.
She's shaking her head.
So avoid it at all costs.
It's a bit of a train wreck.
Oh, Robbie.
What a great song.
It's a great song, right?
It's a very sensual song
Now I understand why he led
With the conversation piece
That he did going into this song
This is the same album as
Showdown at Big Sky
Whatever that was
Yeah Showdown at Big Sky
And they were both much music hits
And they were both played on rock radio
And I thought they were both great
Remember he's tapping into his indigenous roots right his uh i think i think i'd write his
mother is a indigenous person and he's kind of tapping into that with this album it's really
really cool that's right i feel like we're the the neville brothers involved in that album i feel
like they sang back back up like aaron neville was sort Neville did a run in on this disc.
I mean, I will say, I'll give you guys credit for this in this round.
You guys have both presented nice songs.
Alice Cooper, Robert Robertson.
As they used to.
But I think that I definitely won the first round with The Grateful Dead's Touch of Grey.
I definitely won the first round.
I think we're three for three, personally.
Good mix of tunes, for sure.
Ah, okay.
A little tush.
If I could turn back time
If I could find a way
I'd take back those words that hurt you
And you'd stay
I don't know why I did the things I did
You know, all I can see is her tush.
You're right.
That's all I can see.
What a wonderful video this was.
This was with all the sailors on like the big...
Yeah, like she's on a boat with a bunch
of guys that can't even appreciate it.
Yeah, a bunch of...
What did Stu just say?
I mean,
she's not in uniform. She's out of
uniform. They're not allowed to look at that.
And remember that tattoo?
Yeah, I feel like we have to say who this is. I mean, this is
Cher. Do we have to say? You think
Toronto Mike listeners don't know this song? Stu thinks it'sonard cohen not a robbie robertson or or alice
cooper track guys this is share turn back time just in case joe in toronto is not aware um as
featured in the toronto star i might add by the way um he got all of that and i like bill brio's
in fotm like him very much but that article article in the Toronto Star is just talking about that episode of Toronto Mic'd.
With my first ever best friend, Joe Sini.
But if I'm...
Basically a recap.
Yeah, for sure.
But anyway, getting back to Cher.
Hell of a song.
Obviously a big 60s, 70s artist.
You know, her Sonny and Cher needs no introduction. Cher. Hell of a song. Obviously a big 60s, 70s artist.
You know, her Sonny and Cher needs no introduction.
God,
I mean, Cher's reinvented herself many,
many times. I almost put
her Dance Jab
Believe. That's more of a late
90s song, so they didn't really qualify.
But now she's a big Twitter force
too. I mean, a great follow on Twitter.
What a career Cher's had. Like, what a career she has.
Does she go against Trump?
Is that her thing?
She's very opinionated, yes.
I would say that this also thrusted Cher back into the mainstream as far as she got movie roles.
And she became sort of a reimagined sex symbol after this video.
Specifically, we all remember she's walking around showing off her tush in the video.
You know,
Leva Fumka looks
confused, but Cher is
basically showing her bare ass.
Imagine an assless pair of pants.
That's what she's sort of rocking around in this video.
There's not a chance Leva Fumka
hasn't seen that video. There's not a chance.
I don't know. Maybe she has the outfit.
Can you let us know?
I don't know. Leva, have you. I don't know. Can you let us know?
I don't know.
Lieve, have you seen the video for If I Could Turn Back Time?
I'm sure I have.
I just can't remember it.
She doesn't remember it.
See, I think guys like us, we remember.
We're, you know, pigs.
Oh, quick.
I was blown away by a fact I learned about three months ago, I think.
I was listening to Aha.
Sorry, is it a fun fact?
No, there's nothing fun about any of Mike's facts.
That's when I...
Fun fact, fun fact.
Get your own material.
Fun fact.
Fun fact.
I'm listening to Aha's take on me.
And I'm just talking...
My wife gets a lot of fun facts, okay?
I think she's gone nuts.
Like, too many fun facts.
And she misses half of them.
But I was telling her about the video
for Take On Me
and how advanced it was for its time.
Like, can you believe that video existed back then?
You know what she says to me?
What video?
That's what she said.
What video for AHA's Take On Me?
This is what she said a few months ago.
My brain exploded.
That's sad.
But I'm equally blown away. away you know and that's a lesson
uh to everybody to read you know really before you get married you really got to get to know
someone like you want to wake up one day and realize they don't know the take on me video
i was going to say uh speaking of tush cam another act that could have qualified zz top yes tush yeah
zz top absolutely but you're spoiling it a bit
because people don't know that's not coming.
And you, sir, you don't know if me or Cam has a ZZ Top song.
I just don't strike either of you guys as ZZ Top fans
or ZZ Top, my bad.
Do you know how many times I watched the video for Legs?
And of course, Sharp Dressed Man was the theme for,
the Sharp Dressed Man was like a constant theme for any sports.
Well,
for Don Cherry,
uh,
Don Cherry did like Harrison.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now,
uh,
reminder to listeners that I know everybody's jams.
I loaded them up.
I've seen them all,
but cam does not know what I've chosen.
And cam does not know what Stu's chosen.
And Stu does not know what I've chosen.
And Stu doesn't know what cam chosen and leave a Fumka and's chosen and Stu does not know what I've chosen and Stu doesn't know what Cam's chosen and
Levi Fumka and Ian
Service don't know anything. They have
no idea. They didn't even know the theme of the song until
we started. And they didn't even know that Cher had a
video for Turn Back Time. Ian
knew. Ian, chime in.
Are you aware of the video for Turn Back Time?
I was just watching it in the other window
over here. He didn't know. He didn't know. Well, they're young
people. Levi Fumka and not Tim here.
They're probably in their late 20s,
so they don't know these things.
I mean, a final fun fact is that actually Robbie Robertson
in the video for Somewhere Down the Crazy,
wearing the same outfit as Cher in the Jerm Back time.
I think that you could have said Alice Cooper
and I would have bought it
that's fair
is this my pick now?
no they're applauding you
well of course
you're a favorite
I think it's Linda who's cheering you on
I can hear her
is this the sailors cheering for Cher to get off the
fucking boat?
I get it.
Oh.
Didn't we just mention him earlier?
Steven Tyler?
That man.
Oh yeah, Cher, by the way, Cher was a perfect
choice for this episode. Good job.
Just a classic, classic gem.
Yeah, talk to us, Stu, because I have a million fun facts. You want to know why you know that this song is such a great Aerosmith song?
Because...
Do you want to know why?
Well, yes, I do.
But before you tell us why, I'll just say every song on Pump is a hit.
Continue.
Yeah.
First off, ironically, just to... Sorry, I just wanted to make sure that I got this right.
Yeah, this is a Desmond Child written track, which is why it's so great.
And Desmond Child, of course, famous for You Give Love a Bad Name, Living on a Prayer, Bad Medicine.
You know, Alice Cooper, he did a bunch of songs with.
Madonna's, I'm really confused, but definitely he wrote Kiss I Was Made for Loving You,
I Hate Myself for Loving You, all the Bon Jovi hits.
So this was a very, very successful songwriting team that teamed up with Aerosmith.
They're a 70s act that was dusted off and went to superstar status in the late 80s with Janie's Got a Gun and Dude Looks Like a Lady, Loving an Elevator.
And of course, this song, What It Takes.
This song went to number nine in the top ten, number one on
the rock charts. So again,
this is an example of it
working. It's a hit.
It's a big fucking hit, for sure.
And a great, I'd say one of the better
Aerosmith songs, certainly if they're
probably my favorite. You know, they've only,
Aerosmith has only had one
number one song. Oh, can I
guess? Can I guess?
Yes.
Don't want to miss a thing.
My alarm is going to go off here again, but signifying that you are correct.
Don't want to miss a thing. The song from the Armageddon movie, which ironically, I'm going to speak over the robot voice.
Aerosmith's only number one song they ever had, and they didn't write it.
Diane Warren wrote that song.
Right, right.
And much like My Ding-a-ling or Touch,
it's such a departure, right?
Like, it's sort of like,
you know, another good example real quick,
Pearl Jam's biggest hit is Last Kiss.
So, come on.
Is it?
Yeah.
I don't think that's, is that statistically true?
Yeah, in the Billboard.
I would say Jeremy or Alive.
Yeah, you'd be wrong, as usual.
But back to Aerosmith, if I may.
This is a very good selection by you, Stu Stone,
because Aerosmith were known as the Toxic Twins.
They were a 70s band.
You think of, like, Mummikin or, of course,
oh, Sweet Emotion and...
Toys in the Attic
Walk This Way
and of course every sports montage
needs to be set to Dream On
Dream On, great song
you know they got really screwed on that
their manager owns the publishing from Dream On
and Aerosmith never made money on that song
wow, I love that
that's a fun fact, okay, not for them though
but they did fine because not only do they have this
era where they have, like you mentioned,
Permanent Vacation
was a big album. And then this is called
this album is Pump, which was a
monster album with so many big hits.
Janie's Got a Gun and everything. But then
later they have that whole
Alicia Silverstone, Liv Tyler era.
Yeah, it's like two years later. They had about a two album
run off of this. And I would say it all started with the Run DMC Walk This Way.
Sort of propelled them back into the mainstream.
And then, you know, obviously teaming up with Desmond Child,
who wrote all the Bon Jovi hits with them.
It worked.
But, you know, Steven Tyler, these guys,
they were doing so much drugs in the 70s.
It's well documented.
These guys were written off.
The Toxic Twins.
And also when
when this album sort of took him the old school music fans who always compared him to like sort of
a no frills uh mick jagger sort of guy you know it's like steven tyler always had the comparison
to mick jagger and the rollings they were of, if you look at the 70s Rolling Stones and Aerosmith,
you could see that there's a little bit of comparisons there to be made.
This totally eliminated all of that.
And Steven Tyler went on to become an icon that he is now.
And I would say that it was the 80s run that made him an icon.
An MTV star.
Who saw that coming, right?
This tired, old, toxic, twin 70s band
was going to be MTV darlings.
I'd say, too, that other album you mentioned,
Get a Grip, that had Amazing and Crazy
and all those Alicia Silver.
That was, what, 93, 94?
It was so completely out of step
with what was popular at that time.
The aforementioned pearl jam sound
garden nirvana and yet they were never more popular and then like a few years later the
fucking armageddon soundtrack really not what would be popular their first number one hit like
it just it's pretty amazing run for a band that that shouldn't have worked you know i think though
the secret to that 93 94 run was alicia
silverstone i mean they recognized that they were older guys now and they wanted to appeal to mtv
audiences let's find the hottest girl in town right put her in all of our videos and then like
his daughter was in a couple of those yeah she she was and then she ended up she was also in
armageddon right she was the lead in armageddon that's probably how they
got the that's how she probably got the role i'll say one one final fun fact about the armageddon
soundtrack probably like four episodes now ago now um canadian covers of u.s songs i almost
included another track from that chant Chantal Kravacek covering
Leaving on a Jet Plane, which
is, I think, from Harvey Gettin.
Am I wrong? No, you're absolutely correct.
Okay. It all ties together.
Well, speaking of movies and soundtracks,
here's my next choice.
These were 70 stars?
I'll explain in a moment.
I like to give it a moment to breathe so people can hear it
and then I come in with my fun facts.
We saw the writing on the wall
As we felt this magical fantasy
Now with passion in our eyes
There's no way we could disguise The secret need
So we take each other's hand
Cause we seem to understand
The urgency
Just remember
You're the one
Oh man, what a jam this is.
Okay, Monster Hit.
Of course, in the 80s.
This is on the soundtrack to Dirty Dancing, if I'm correct.
Hold on.
So this is I've Had the Time of My Life.
I've Had should be in parentheses.
We've got to get that right.
Bill Medley and Jennifer Warnes.
Is that from the Medley brothers?
No, you're close.
You're close.
They are brothers, but Bill Medley is one half of the Righteous Brothers
with such monster hits as You've Lost That Loving Feeling.
And the biggest one possibly, one of the greatest songs of all time.
From Ghost.
From Ghost.
Another example.
We should do a theme where songs that had a comeback due to pop culture.
That should be a future.
Somebody write it down.
Unchained Melody.
So he's a big star.
And forget 70s, right?
Like Unchained Melody. So he's a big star. And forget 70s, right? Like Unchained Melody was released in 1955.
So we're going way back with Bill Medley.
And here he is back on top of the charts in the 80s.
Trying to figure out the 70s connection here, though.
Like where's the 70s connection from?
Well, it got broadened a bit.
Is it because he was 70 years old when the song came out?
I'm just trying to understand.
You've been really shitty at picks lately,
so I'm just trying to figure out what is the 70s connection here.
I believe the spirit of this is artists from past decades' success
that haven't hit in the 80s.
No, that wasn't actually in the rules.
Here's a fun aside.
This is a trivia question.
Maybe I'll pose this to Mike, I think.
here's a fun aside this is a trivia question maybe I'll pose this to Mike
I think
what would be the connection between
Ed Conroy Retro Ontario
something he's talked about before I believe on your
show and the Dirty Dancing soundtrack
and I'll say there's an artist
that's sort of the fulcrum
of this question
wow
Eric Carmen
good guess Patty Swayze fulcrum of this question. Oh, wow. Eric Carmen?
Good guess.
Eric Carmen?
Patty Swayze?
No, that's another good guess.
I'll just say in the interest of time,
I'll let you guys know.
So the... I don't know if you remember.
Dirty Dancing, I believe, had...
No, this was on the first soundtrack.
There was actually a bit of CanCon on there.
Alfie Zappacosta with the song Overload.
Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Alfie Zappacosta.
The Pizza Nova theme.
Correct.
The guy who sang the Pizza Nova 4-3-9-0-0 Pizza Nova,
Alfie Zappacosta, also on the original Dirty Dancing soundtrack
alongside Bill Medley, Jennifer Warrens, Eric Carman.
Patrick Chazen.
I mean, there's so many other options from that soundtrack that would have qualified.
Eric Carman would have been a great one.
Can you explain to me where the 70s connection is for this song?
I'm still waiting.
So, Stu, in our Twitter DMs that we exchanged between episodes, Cam broadened it a bit.
And I think we said, okay, we need a blessing from Stu.
He broadened it a bit.
You remember this, Cam?
No.
Yeah, I do.
What'd you say?
Check the DM thread from like five days ago where we talked about this.
So it wasn't going to be as specific as a 70s star with an 80s hit.
Oh, I forgot that Cam's allowed to dictate how my episode goes.
I forgot.
My bad.
So for the record, Stu, are you telling me this jam is disqualified?
I mean, listen, this is one of the best fucking songs ever.
Okay?
Who am I to say that this song is not great?
That's not about the best fucking song ever.
It's about following the rules.
This song closed out more bar mitzvah videos than any
other song from 1987 to 1995 i would say or weddings at the end of a wedding video to this
day uh yeah and and the black eyed peas i believe did some sort of uh cover remix yeah uh you know
it's a great song i just was jennifer war, is that who was who sings this song with him?
Yes, yes.
Did she have a hit in the 70s?
I explained.
I chose it because Bill Medley was in the Righteous Brothers.
Yeah, so that would have been like for 50 stars that had songs in the 80s,
which is a whole other episode, Mike.
This would have been a chart topper for that episode.
I'm going to start Cam Gordon's third jam.
Okay, but just before you do,
I believe I won that round again.
There are no winners.
With Aerosmith's What It Takes,
which does qualify.
I mean, it's good
we've turned a celebration music
into some sort of like
demented game
for your childish amusement.
Yes.
Maybe we should open this up
to the listenership
on a Twitter poll.
Does Bill Medley qualify? Because I would argue he was, because he was a star in the 50s and 60s with the Righteous Brothers, that makes him a 70s star.
I would say again, this is not a 70s star. This is a star in his 70s.
remember who's the uh frank you remember frank tanana of course you do i'm talking to the only talking to the people who would know who frank tanana is the line i love about frank tanana was
this it was um i want to get it right he threw in the 90s in the 70s and in the 70s in the 90s
that's a good line is that a hebsey original or no i don't think it's a hebsey original i believe
i don't know where i got it but uh I always thought it was clever because it's true.
He was pitching in the 70s and his pitches were 90 miles an hour or greater.
And then he was also pitching in the 90s and his pitches were 70 miles an hour.
I want to just shout out Bill Medley, by the way,
who happily you brought him up today and not in September, where he will be 80 years old.
So now he is 79 years old as of right now.
And great guy.
Can we do something to un-jinx him?
Because I noticed when we mentioned artists
that we haven't thought of in a while,
they die like a day or two later.
You've lost that loving feeling.
You forgot that song.
No, I said it.
You're not listening.
Wait, wait.
I am.
I guess I missed that because my fire alarm was going off there for a minute.
And it was also used in Facts of Life.
He has a lot of soundtrack songs.
You lost that love and feeling is from Top Gun.
Okay, but it was first a hit like in the 50s.
No, no, I know.
I know.
I'm just saying.
In that era, Top Gun, Dirty Dancing, Ghost, that's three pretty big ones.
Yeah, and you could put Top Gun, you could put Glenn Frey in here.
But if I may, real quick, tell you that there was a great episode of Facts of Life that I really, really liked,
in which Blair Warner was singing You've Lost That Loving Feeling into her hairbrush.
And I had a crush on Blair Warner was singing You've Lost That Loving Feeling into her hairbrush. And I had a crush on Blair Warner.
I was more of a 2D guy myself.
No, okay.
2D is great too,
but we all should be in love with Jo
because she was like that tough...
A real man's man.
Yeah.
Just one of the guys, Kyle.
She rode a motorbike and everything.
She could beat the shit out of you.
Her dad was played by the guy who got the bullet in the eye in The Godfather.
George Clooney?
He was on, yes, he was on Facts of Life.
Mrs. Garrett, by the way, was a spin-off of Different Strokes.
She looked after Arnold and Willis.
Next, you'll tell me Molly Ringwald was in the first season.
Oh.
His heart.
Yeah.
I have many comments about this one off the top. Give him one chorus and then I'll bring it down for you, Cam. So I pulled up alongside And I offered him a ride
Give him one chorus and then I'll bring it down for you, Cam.
He accepted with a smile
So we drove for a while
Interesting fun fact on that.
I didn't ask him his name
This lonely boy
In the rain
Hey, tell me it's right
Is this love at first sight
Please don't make it wrong
Just stay for the night
All I want to do is make love to you
Can you dedicate this one to anyone specifically, Cam?
Okay, a few
comments off the top.
Politicos? Yeah, so this is
Heart, All I Wanna Do
Is Make Love To You.
The name of the song, I remember
this came out, what, 1989?
1990?
The lyrics of this song are
fucking crazy. It's basically, she
picks up a drifter,
goes straight to some low-rent motel.
They're intimate.
And they're making love, by the way.
That's not even carnal.
Sure, yeah.
Like some passionate lovemaking in this seedy flea bag,
probably somewhere in the Pacific Northwest where Hart's from.
Years later, she meets this guy,
has the same eyes as the Wilson sister puts it.
Like,
what the fuck is this song about?
Like,
it's crazy.
There's a lot of fun facts.
Like,
I mean,
I heard Stu ask if these guys were Canadian because they did.
Girls,
girls,
girls.
I use it like non gender specific,
but this is a song, I believe this is a band that did have a CanCon qualification.
Because I believe...
They're like producer, like a member was Canadian.
I thought they live in Vancouver.
Don't they live in Vancouver?
I believe there's a bit of confusion around is Hart Canadian.
Like if you Googled it, I'm sure there'd be many threads discussing and debating it.
I don't believe their citizenship is canadian i believe their music qualified as a can con uh yeah and yeah i mean that they i'm just looking at their wikipedia page they were a
canadian band at one time because they when they were making their big break they were
playing in seattle but they were living in vancouver for eight years they lived in vancouver vancouver washington no vancouver canada when uh barracuda and all that
good stuff yeah they were living in vancouver and they they would cross the border and play uh cd
bars in seattle yeah and mike you you're correct i believe this song used to satisfy some can con
rules so they recorded They were probably recorded in
Vancouver. Correct.
A songwriter has to be...
There were different parts that make it.
It's funny that you'd have a song by Brian Adams
that is not CanCon.
I was going to say, it's the exact inverse of the
Brian Adams thing.
If you're into this
nerdy side of music.
Which is interesting because it would explain why we saw the video so often.
Yeah, and just to clarify,
not Bryan Adams who played Crush in the WWF
who famously got duped by the two doinks at WrestleMania.
He did, yeah.
Whatever that was, 1993 or so.
In one of the sporting moments of the year that year.
Yeah, absolutely.
I didn't know there was another Bryan Adams,
but I know there's a Ryan Adams,
and I know that Bryan Adams and Ryan Adams have the same birthday.
Two Bryan Adams.
It's all good.
Wow.
I will say that Heart is a very interesting selection,
and my theme is songs that went to number one type of thing,
and Cam has a clear theme.
He's got the share into heart.
Uh,
so very female,
female,
female,
uh,
heavy.
And Alice,
Alice is a girl's name.
Yeah.
Um,
so I'm noticing Cam's really showing a sensitive side this week.
Ladies night folks.
This is this week's for the ladies for Cam.
This is a good selection.
I just want to know when Cam picked this song,
was he thinking about someone specifically?
Yeah.
Well, Stu, uh, it's interesting. Uh, you know, I'm just checking the records here. RPM, to know, when Cam picked this song, was he thinking about someone specifically? Yeah. Well, Stu, it's interesting.
You know, I'm just checking the records here.
RPM, you know, used to be the big trade publication.
Where do you think this hit on the Canadian singles chart?
Probably number three.
No, it was actually a number one hit.
Oh.
U.S. Billboard Hot 100.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I wasn't disputing that this song was a hit or the Cher song.
Both of them are mega hits.
I was not.
I was just saying the similarity was that there was female-centric songs.
You had Cher as a lead singer.
You had Heart as a female outfit.
And you have Alice Cooper with a, you know,
if someone didn't know Alice Cooper's music,
they might assume that's a female.
Okay.
What is this?
Stew's pick.
Speaking of
videos that were terrifying,
this might be
one of the scariest music videos ever made.
I don't know if I've ever seen a video of this.
You're not confusing it with Godly's...
No, this is like a black and white video
where this guy's sort of going through his biggest fears
with spiders and jumping off ceilings.
Yeah, I did traumatize him.
He's getting sort of waterboarded and shit.
So tell us what we're listening to, Stu,
and explain why it qualifies today.
Because it does qualify.
This definitely qualifies.
This is a band called Yes.
The song is called Owner of a Lonely Heart.
Much like my Grateful Dead entry and my Aerosmith entry, this thing sort of falls in line.
Owner of a Lonely Heart was Yes's first and only number one song.
They released 21 studio albums, 14 live albums, 35 compilation albums, 28 singles, 22 videos,
only one number one song.
You are listening to it.
And it was when they were dusted off in the 80s.
The original members of the group sort of backlash against this album as their dismissive 80s contribution.
It's not as progressive, right?
They were a progressive rock band.
It's very similar.
They saw success from bands like Chicago, who changed up their style in the 80s and became a ballad act.
Obviously, this is not a ballad.
This is a great contemporary, futuristic sort of sounding rock song.
And the video was great, and the song is great.
And it was actually sampled for a rap song in the 90s called Tic-Tac-Toe.
Is it yes? No? Maybe so. Tic-Tac-Toe.
I totally remember it from 680 CFTR.
Sorry, who sang that? I honestly don't know that song.
Tic-Tac-Toe. Look it up.
It's probably Stu Stone and Jamie Kennedy, I think.
No.
Let me look it up for you, Kim.
I think that was Circle Dot Dot.
Tic-Tac-Toe.
Tic-Tac-Toe is by Kuiper.
Kuiper. Tic-Tac-Toe.
Nick Kiprios'
alias.
What the fuck?
This is very Michael Jackson, this part.
What the fuck?
Yeah, this is very Michael Jackson, this part.
It's very Michael Jackson.
It's just like a very well-produced song,
and it still kind of holds up production-wise.
It does not sound dated.
Just for the record, Stewstone,
you did not order us to pick number one hits.
No, I said hits.
I'm just going with songs that were number going with songs you seem to be bragging like
oh another number one but i never got these instructions well i'm also playing you these
number one songs that like maybe people didn't realize that they were 70s acts that only had
one number one song in their career and this is it yeah very good it's also like stew's like
pointing out who wins each round like again we never discussed this as a competition again
we're trying to celebrate music
but again this is a game life's a game not but you know i'm very proud of you too funny kind of
fun fact about this song like this was produced by trevor horn who is one of the songwriters as
well and he's the one that shits on the album he like hates it like literally just like a danny
thomas type thing or what it's like uh it's like he's not interested in this album.
Like if you go see Yes in concert, they may not play this song.
Yeah.
Oh, I believe that to be true. They've disowned it.
Yes still tours, I mean, before.
With whatever members are around, yeah.
Can I ask, didn't they tour as Emerson, Lake, and Palmer?
Or am I confusing my prog rock?
You know, as a child of the 80s, sometimes I confuse the 70s
prog rock stuff, but is Emerson Lake
and Palmer... I'd have to confirm that.
I feel like Yes would tour
with just the members and they would call themselves
Emerson Lake and Palmer. In fact, I was
working the C&E in 1989
when Emerson Lake and Palmer were coming
and I remember being stupid because I was only
15 years old and asking somebody,
who the hell is Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
And they said, oh, that's just how Yes is calling.
I think you might be thinking of King Crimson.
Like one of them was in King Crimson.
I'm going to say somebody Google it because I feel like this is and I should know more.
Yes, but I really don't really dive deep into the 70s prog rock.
I don't know about you.
No, nothing to do with Yes.
Keith Emerson, you're wrong.
Typical Mike being wrong.
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, the members of the band are
Keith Emerson, Greg Lake, and Karl Palmer.
Okay, so Emerson, Lake, and Palmer have nothing to do with Yes?
Nothing, no.
Other than that they're both like British prog rock acts.
Okay, I'm going to edit this out.
Remember Nelson Emerson?
Yes. A hell of a Winnipeg
jazz. He was good in the
NHL hockey game I used to
play on my Nintendo.
Fast as fuck.
You're thinking of Bob Airy.
I'm going to take a moment.
It's my show. Emerson,
Lake, Palmer, yes. Hold on here. I'm just doing the... moment. It's my show. Emerson, Lake, Palmer.
Yes.
Hold on here.
I'm just doing the... Not to be confused with Emerson.
Why is it in my brain?
In 1989, someone told me that.
Not to be confused with Emerson, Lake, and Palmer pasta.
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer.
Again, this is something someone told me in the summer of 89
that I just carried with me but never thought to corroborate.
I just trusted this guy. He had long hair. He looked like he knew his shit. And he told me it the summer of 89 that I just carried with me but never thought to corroborate. I just trusted this guy. He had long hair.
He looked like he knew his shit.
He told me it was yes. I'm now seeing
that... That you're wrong.
I'm wrong. That fucker.
I think his name was Graham
and he spelled it funny. I remember
thinking... I like how Mike is just inventing
this story to cover his tracks
here. But all right. We'll take it. This manufactured
carny.
You wouldn't know her.
She goes to a different school. Yeah. What do you have to say about it, Cam?
Maybe I'm in love.
I was going to say, Mike, I believe this is Robert Palmer, tall, cool one, right?
Not Robert Palmer, no.
I'm sorry, Robert Plant.
Sorry, Robert Plant.
Correct.
But just like all the Led Zeppelins,
like him sampling all these Led Zeppelin songs
and putting it together into his 80s mishmash.
Like, I don't know.
It seems like the Zepp fans must have been just losing their shit.
Oh, yeah.
This is just absolute dribble from Robert Plant.
Tall, cool one,
which we're listening to now.
Got a lot of Q107 airplay.
Coca-Cola stuck it in ads.
I remember seeing it.
Oh, I remember the song
being a success,
but that doesn't,
now that I'm an adult
and I can look back
objectively at this,
this is like,
this is a whole other subcategory
of like people who sold their soul.
And this is a, this is a, probably the biggestategory of people who sold their soul.
This is probably the biggest example.
I would say Chicago's 80s run maybe is the only thing that troubles this.
Stop, stop, stop.
It's shameless.
We need to do this episode.
Don't even name other examples.
We have to do this episode.
Can somebody take a note?
Seriously.
Of the songs,
people selling their soul.
Prolific artists that made fucking shit to try to make money.
Sellout songs.
Got it.
I've got a note.
Okay.
I honestly, we have to do this.
Okay.
So.
I mean, you're talking about the front man of one of the greatest rock and roll outfits
in the history of the word.
The Honeydripers.
Yes.
They didn't invent rock and roll, but they certainly perfected it.
Led Zeppelin is the shit.
And this song, as good as it may be on its own,
if this wasn't performed by Robert Plant,
it is performed by Robert Plant, which makes it complete drizzling shits.
So tell us what you really think of this jam.
I was going to say, in one small correction, it was Pepsi, not Coke.
By the way, I like this song.
Is that right? Why do I remember this song?
I just don't like it. I just can't understand how this Robert Plant would really...
This just does not... It just reeks of disappointment.
Can't I laugh alone on this?
I think this song's a piece of shit, but it's also a bullseye for the topic today.
I mean, it's a great choice for the topic.
Oh, yeah.
In the summer of 89, Graham told me that this song was in a Coca-Cola ad.
You're telling me it was a Pepsi ad.
Yeah, the same Graham.
Oh, no.
Okay, you're right.
Okay, it is a Coca-Cola.
I stand corrected.
Wow, Cam, wrong for a change.
Thank you.
I needed one.
I'm getting hammered.
Two weeks in a row.
I actually would not have even guessed that this is Robert Plant singing, to be honest with you. I needed one. I'm getting hammered. Two weeks in a row. I actually would not have even guessed that this is
Robert Plant singing, to be honest
with you. Whose voice? You think it's
Leonard Cohen?
No, it just doesn't sound like...
It's like how Steven Tyler doesn't sound like
Steven Tyler. It just doesn't sound like Robert
Plant. I guess it's because... He might be like fucked with the
pitch or something on his voice or something.
He sounds like a different guy. I thought Cam
was telling us he fucked to this song.
No, Cam does do that.
All I want to do is make
love to you. Come on.
This is an awful fucking song.
Alright, that's going to be a topic, but it
does, I did hear Cam tell me it was
perfect for this theme,
so I'm just glad I got one. It is, yes.
It's a great song to rip off of.
Actually, it's not an awful song.
It's just, like I said,
it's only awful because of who's singing it,
and they shouldn't be doing this song.
Because if I remember this timeline,
and I have a few years on you,
but I remember that he was sort of doing
50 Honey Drippers, like,
Come With Me, Sea of Love.
Do you remember when we...
That was more appropriate for him than this because at least he's doing
like covers of songs he used to like grow up to or something yeah i mean he did like that other
shtick with uh allison krauss like he did that kind of the bluegrass yes he did i don't know
and i was oh man you know what oh nice effect at the end i will go on i'll be uh different from
you you know like everlast
was like the lead rapper from house of pain and then he reinvented himself as sort of like a blues
whitey sings the blues that was successful whitey ford was not i actually really like that album
whitey ford sings the blues so what it takes actually a friend a personal friend of mine
everlast yeah honestly he probably doesn't like me as much
as I like him.
I crashed the worst car
crash I've ever been in, which was my fault.
I was listening to Whitey
Ford sing. It was in the...
Actually, it's funny. I still drive that
car. This is 1999
and I'm
listening to Whitey Ford sing the blues
in my Mazda Protege.
My buddy Mark Carey was in the car. my, in my Mazda protege. I cried.
My buddy,
Mark Carey was in the car.
Anyways,
we walked away.
That car is in my driveway right now.
I mean,
fun fact,
fun fact.
You want,
you want to talk about reinvention?
You know,
Landis Morissette,
remember she was like a pop singer and then she came back with a vigor,
reinvented herself.
Of course.
Something else that worked.
Uh,
this is a proper plant.
It did not work for him.
Okay.
But I hit nonetheless and licensed.
He got some Coca-Cola money from that as well.
God bless Led Zeppelin,
by the way.
Like I said,
they didn't invent it,
but they perfected it.
Ever since I,
ever since I became the,
I'm trying to get brother Jake to do a zoom with me.
Like this is the new thing I'm working on.
I want brother Jake. He's friends of Gene Volitis from is the new thing I'm working on. I want brother Jake.
He's friends of Gene Volitis from Jesse and Gene.
And Gene Volitis is my guest on Tuesday on Toronto Mike.
And I got it.
Gene,
apparently they text every day.
He,
Gene tells me.
So Gene's got to make,
get brother Jake on Toronto Mike.
But what was I going to say?
Ever since I,
ever since I erroneously said the Pogues were an Irish band,
I've been waiting in the middle of the night,
I wake up in a cold sweat,
like it's haunting me.
This is how Mark Weisblot felt
when he erroneously credited Grace Slick
with the Pointer Sisters' Sesame Street Jam.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
eleven, twelve.
He woke up in a cold sweat every night
and I've been doing that since I kicked out the Pogues
as an Irish band.
I think as long as you can own it and move on I mean that sort of acceptance
Is what like
By the way waking up in a cold sweat
Is also a possible symptom of COVID
You might want to get checked
And I think it's a Bruce Springsteen lyric
At night I wake up with my sheets soaking wet
And a freight train running through the middle of my head
Hey hey Oh my heart's on fire I wake up with my sheets soaking wet and a freight train running through the middle of my head.
Hey, hey.
Oh, my heart's on fire.
Bruce would have qualified for this episode.
He was a... Oh, I think.
Anyway.
It is not Hungry Heart, people.
If you believe in the power of magic
I can change your mind.
And if you need to believe in someone, turn and look behind.
When you are living in a dream world, God's got his way.
Wow, I haven't heard this song in forever.
I had the same reaction when Cam sent it over.
I'm like, holy shit, I haven't heard that.
This is a great song though, right?
Yes.
So this is the Alan Parsons project.
Speaking of prog rock, yes, Emerson, Lake and Palmer and all those bands.
The song Don't Answer Me
came out
in the mid-80s. Great music
video. And it would be
appropriate for a Forgotten Jams episode
because this is completely forgotten
and I hear it now and it's like, why?
Because it's wonderful.
Well, they're awesome. Alan Parsons' project
is the shit.
And certainly back in the consciousness with perhaps most famously,
their song serious.
Michael Jordan.
Yeah,
exactly.
And the last dance that also Ricky,
the dragon steamboat steam song.
That's right.
Yeah.
I mean,
I don't know,
like those,
sorry,
not to like a sports hint,
but those like bulls entrances with serious and like kind of the cheesy
graphic of the bull running through.
We've talked about in past episodes,
but I still get pumped up when I see that.
Of course.
Agreed.
Serious is like so fucking good.
And then it leads into that other song.
I think I,
I am the sky,
right?
I am the sky.
That's a great fucking song too.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Talk about like this song. Don't answer me. almost has like more of like a motown vibe it sounds like you got kind of the
wrecking crew like playing this uh yeah but great video for those of you who haven't seen it we just
lost let me fuck up she's never around when we take the photo yeah that that's okay uh anyway
the video very much seems like it was inspired by like Dick Tracy
it's a good video
kind of like a comic vibe yeah and I feel like that video
was big around the same time Thriller
was big
and Dog Police
the day that I got
I can remember getting in
big big trouble in third grade
grade three to be Canadian
I was in grade three, to be Canadian.
I was in grade three,
and we were making paper bag puppets.
And for some reason,
I was reenacting this music video with the puppets.
And I wouldn't, I was, you know,
teacher not an Alan Parsons Project fan
sent me to the office,
and that really led me down a path
of poor behavior ever since.
And I would credit this song.
Well done, Cam, because
I had totally forgotten this song existed, and it's
great.
Yeah. It's a very melancholy
song.
I don't know. What do you think?
I like it. Yeah.
I like it too. I can
imagine it
over a movie scene.
What's that Alan Parsons 70s hit?
Which one do you want, pal?
It's for the audience.
This is for Tim, not me.
So anyway, Eye in the Sky was a big hit.
You kicked out Grateful Dead.
Eye in the Sky, that's a 70s song?
Yeah.
But you kicked out Grateful Dead, Stu.
Okay, it was 1982, yeah.
So he had, you know, a lot of hits.
The Raven, not to be mistaken for the new Reid album.
Or the Edgar Allan Poe poem.
Yeah, I mean, you know, a lot of big jams.
A lot of top songs that made the Billboard Top 200. No, but mean, you know, a lot of big jams, a lot of top songs that made the
Billboard Top 200.
No, but seriously, I would argue that the Alan Parsons
project had bigger hits than
your Grateful Dead
prior to the 80s there.
I don't know. I mean,
Casey Jones is a pretty big song.
Everybody knows that one.
Ride in that train
on cocaine.
Casey Jones, you better watch your speed. Everybody knows that one. Riding that train. How cold can you be?
Don't you better watch your speed.
How about a shakedown street?
Everybody knows shakedown street.
Truck it.
Trucking.
Trucking.
Everyone knows trucking.
Yeah.
And guys, before I forget, let's do the screen cap right now.
Fire on the mountain.
Take two. mountain wait take two
oh I'm searching for the answer But it's so hard to find
You'll see much deeper
When you breathe between the lines
Cause there's a fire burning in my eyes
I'm not peace in the night
Who can't get enough
Some new Jack Swing.
I was going to say,
speakiest songs we haven't heard in years.
Yeah, I was going to say,
another forgotten jam. I have so many fun facts about this selection, folks.
Good choice.
Good choice.
Thanks, man.
This song is called Soldier of Love.
It's by an artist by the name of Donny Osmond.
I don't need to qualify his 70s status.
Do I?
Nope.
Here's a really, really crazy fact, guys.
This is like the old, you know the song Old Town Road?
Of course.
Sure.
This is the Old Town Road of the 80s.
Donny Osmond was a complete write-off in the United States of America.
When he recorded this song, he did not even have a record deal.
He managed to put this song out in England, the only country that would play it,
and he ended up getting the song with no record deal. He ended up getting the song in the hands of a radio
program director who was a huge fan of Donny and Marie. And she loved the song so much, she included
it in the top 40, her boss wouldn't let her. So it was a mystery artist. They played the song without
saying who the artist is and had people call in and try to figure out who the artist is. It became
this sort of contest that went out of control. And obviously Donny Osmond is the answer. The song
ends up getting him a new record deal. And this song went to number two on the Billboard Hot 100
in 1989. Only one song beat it and that was
michael damien's rock on which was a cover right michael damien he was like a soap opera star
yeah who was the original rock that was david essex was that the original i don't remember
yeah i can find out that was a cool jam that was was the, hey, kids, rock and roll. It was sort of like a Velvet Underground ripoff kind of thing.
Yeah.
Sort of like the original Fuck Everybody that Roddy Roddy Piper took for his For Everybody.
Like it had that same.
Like a one-hit wonder of a one-hit wonder.
Yeah, David Essex.
David Essex, okay.
So good choice because, yes, 70s star with 80s hits.
And I do remember that story about them saying mystery artist.
It only got airplane stuff because they didn't put Donnie's name on it at first,
even though it's a great jam.
Kids like me who didn't even know Donnie and Marie just assumed he was some,
you know, this type of pop music, this uplifting white guy singing
New Jack Swing type of songs, was very popular in this era.
Yeah.
Somebody at the same time did a cover of What I Like About You.
Mm-hmm.
Like the romantic, I'll try to figure that out.
Romantic?
I feel like you're right.
This was like a definite time and place, this style of music.
Yeah, you know, the Janet Jackson kind of.
New Jack Swing.
Right, New Jack Swing, right new jack swing right right right
wow eddie riley and uh you know baby face and jimmy jam and terry lewis these these producers
which came from prince right they just ripped it from prince and then they kind of well they
didn't rip it from prince they were prince's guys yeah they were prince's guy and that because i
know that uh from them more than likely. The album
Control, I believe.
That was the big... That's when Janet
kind of did it her way, but it was this
style. Yeah, the new Jack Swing.
Okay, I'm going to start my jam.
Head to the loo
and I'll be right back. Interesting that you just said that,
Mike, because Janet Jackson,
people don't even realize she had an album before
Control, but nobody knows that because everyone thinks that Control was her first record.
And what does Janet Jackson have in common with Edna Garrett?
Well, they were both on different strokes.
Correct.
Yeah.
Because Janet Jackson was Will.
Didn't Janet Jackson play Will as his girlfriend?
Yeah.
I know.
It's a fun fact, right?
Yes.
Speaking of drummers.
Ringo Starr never had a solo hit, did he?
I guess maybe.
He had that song Photograph.
Finally, the Toronto Mike Show without Mike.
Just Cam and Stu here.
Let's take it up.
With Tim.
I don't know if Mike's ever going to even hear this if he listens back to the show,
but certainly he went to go take a number two,
which kind of explains most of his songs,
but this one happens to be a really good one.
But this is going to be the untold story of Toronto Mike,
what you really need to know.
He's not with us.
We're taking over the airwaves here.
Yes.
This is going to shock you.
Yeah, boy, what a piece of shit.
He doesn't pay us for these shows.
Yeah.
Maybe we've asked.
We've said he's monetizing
our content, but that's how he wants
to live his life.
Hopefully he washes his hands after
he uses the restroom.
Don't worry, we didn't talk any shit about you while you were gone.
Here's what I'll do. I'll bring it down while he builds up, and then I'll bring it back for you-know-what.
But this is actually the band, I believe Genesis is
the band that inspired this topic because we were
talking about how... No, this is just
Phil Collins.
If I may finish.
Genesis spawned
multiple 80s hits
from acts such as Peter Gabriel,
Phil Collins.
I know this is fucking just
Phil Collins. The whole, you play the fucking 80s song from the solo artist that came from the 70s, Phil Collins. I know this is fucking just Phil Collins. The whole, you play the fucking 80s song
from the solo artist that came from the 70s,
you asshole.
But okay.
So yeah, Peter Gabriel, Mike Rutherford,
In the Living Years,
and Mike and the Mechanics,
that's his band there.
So I had to pick a song from that
and I could have gone with Sledgehammer maybe
or In the Living Years or
All I Need is a Miracle.
But I decided.
To me, I would maybe say that you should have maybe
No, this is a great song. Classic.
But I think
like Genesis getting back together
and doing like the Susu Studio album
might have been a better choice.
Wrong. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
My bad.
That's no jacket required.
My bad.
The Genesis got back together
and did Invisible Touch
and all of those like late 80s songs.
Maybe that would have been a better...
No, this is fine.
This is fine.
Bill Collins...
Tim, what's wrong with this pick?
No.
The most successful drummer
in the history of the business and the most most successful drummer in the history of the business
and the most iconic drum fill in the history of the business,
which is about to come.
I dare anyone listening to not air drum this part.
It's very difficult.
Yeah.
And somebody, I can't remember if it was Mike or Stu, kind of,
but they almost did a subtweet of this artist off the top
talking about singing drummers.
I think that was used to...
Levon Helm sings the weight.
Well, most of the weight, right?
That's a drum, that's a singing drummer.
Yeah, I think so, yeah. I guess Dave Grohl
might be able to qualify a little bit,
but even though he wasn't the lead singer of Nirvana, he ended up
becoming a lead singer.
And FOTM
Chris Murphy, he plays a good drum.
Oh, yeah. We were talking when you were in. He plays a good drum. Oh, yeah.
We were talking when you were in the restroom taking a massive dump.
We were talking about Ringo Starr.
And I don't really recall.
I know he sang Yellow Submarine.
And, of course, with a little help from my friends.
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Not only their prog rock stuff, which is incredible,
but the production that Phil Collins and even some Genesis songs,
the album prior to this release,
there's a lesser known song called Man in the Corner.
And then there's songs like this where the production is contemporary and it still hits.
You know, it does not sound dated.
Like the Donny Osmond song you would know is an 80s song.
This song could still come out as recorded and still be great.
I saw Phil Collins in concert recently and I don't advise it, sadly.
Yeah, he had to like sit down the whole time.
Yeah, he came out
like with a walker and he sat down. It was a very sad
kind of piece. But his son
fills in and plays the drums for him
which is kind of cool.
Hopefully Phil is in better health
because I understand Genesis is planning on
doing another tour once this
is all over. I have a silly question.
I'm not a prog rock guy.
Emerson Lake and Palmer, they're in Genesis, right?
No, no.
But, of course, if you're a fan of Canadian music,
the most famous Canadian band of all time is a prog rock band.
Rush.
That's right, Rush.
I was thinking Barenaked Ladies, but no, Rush is bigger than them.
Well, Barenaked Ladies are pretty fucking big, too.
But I would say that Barenaked Ladies, but no, Rush is bigger than them. Well, Barenaked Ladies are pretty fucking big too. But I would say that
Barenaked Ladies would probably say Rush.
And then maybe The Guess Who
maybe after that. I don't know.
I was going to go with
Too Bad To Be True.
Too Bad To Be True, yeah.
I was going to say Devin, but that's more of a solo artist.
Jeremy Taggart never...
You gotta put your mind to it.
Taggart never sang any songs
for Our Lady Peace, right?
Is this Cam's selection?
Yep, and it's an excellent one.
What a big intros today.
Is this your number one,
is this your number one, Cam?
No particular order.
You'll dig this song.
Everything I said about the Phil Collins song production
does not apply to this song.
It is very 80s-ish.
I think that's fair observation.
Yeah, I like this song.
This just sort of sounds like Grateful Dead, I Will Get By,
but with electronic instruments instead of instruments.
I think when I was a kid, I thought it was the same band.
Because, yeah, it's a very similar look to the deal.
So yeah, the Moody Blues, Your Wildest Dreams.
Similar to Robert Plant.
Robert, don't call me Robert Palmer Plant.
Sounds very different than vintage Moody Blues
of Knights and white satin.
Vintage.
Starship.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a great selection for this.
Yeah.
You know what else I was thinking about as this song was kicking in?
I was thinking of Dire Straits.
Yeah.
I just couldn't think of 70s Dire Straits hits.
Oh, no.
They had a lot.
They had Brothers.
They had not Brothers. They had Brothers... They had not Brothers.
They had...
Sultan of Swing.
Was that them?
That's 80s.
That's 80s.
No, Dire Straits had 70s hits.
I'm sure they did.
But this is...
I like the bridge of this song.
Yeah.
But I gotta say, like,
if there's one song that
is like a textbook sort of yuppie rock of the 80s, short of maybe Don Henley, Boys of Summer, I feel like this would be like top 10.
Sultans of Swing was 1978.
Sorry.
Is that that old? Sultans of Swing?
Yeah.
I thought it was on that same album as We Got to Move These Microwave Ovens.
No.
That was 85 that that came out.
That was so far away.
Brothers in Arms.
Yeah.
I will say that the Moody Blues can be forgiven for this song more so than Robert Plant.
Because the Moody Blues had less to lose.
This was a big hit, though.
And it was surprising that this was the Moody Blues.
I distinctly remember learning about the 70s Moody Blues because this became a big hit though like and it was surprising that this was the moody blues i
distinctly remember learning about the 70s moody blues because this became a hit and then i don't
know i read something in the paper and i'm like oh i did i had no idea when this was on like much
music and stuff and cftr i had no idea i was listening to it sounds like such a fucking rip
off of the grateful dead song that i played well i was gonna say then we've talked about this
modern band the band of the modern day
that I think best exemplifies this sound,
which is the War on Drugs, if you guys
listen to it. They seem like they're
sort of distilling all this 80s
shit into a more contemporary form. Whereas if I was to
have to guess who produced this song,
I would say that it might even be the person that
produced Kokomo for the Beach Boys.
That would have been a good jam
for this band. I mean, it sounds like a very similar sort of production.
Yeah.
I want to look that up.
No, but that would have been a great choice today.
But that wouldn't have been such a 70s thing.
But they had 70s hits too, even though they're a 60s band.
Beach Boys?
Yeah.
They had 70s hits.
I'm sure.
Early 70s, and there was a few. I know Jim Van Horn. I was going to say Marcella. That was probably a 70s.. I'm sure. Early 70s, and there was a few.
I know Jim Van Horn.
I was going to say Marcella.
That was probably a 70s song.
Not a hit song.
What's this song called, Kim?
Your Wildest Dreams.
Not to be confused with Taylor Swift, Wildest.
I think she had a song called Wildest Dreams.
I just want to say Jim Van Horn.
In your wildest dreams i just want to say jim van horn in your wildest dreams the uh the beach boys had
70s hits for sure because i distinctly remember jim van horn kicking one out and uh what was this
is a real his dj name again well no that was his dj name Jim Van Horn. His real name is Jim something else. I don't know.
Yeah, this song had nothing to do with Kokomo.
No.
I don't hear John Stamos.
There's a singing drummer, John Stamos.
Mario Lopez is that drummer.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, and who was the drummer in The Zit Remedy?
Can somebody look that up?
Everybody was there.
That would have been Wheels, I think, wasn't it?
Oh, rest in peace.
No, I don't think they had a drummer.
Because I always think of Zack Attack.
Zack Attack.
Speaking of songs that close out bar mitzvahs and weddings,
let's just let this breathe for a second.
And I never thought I'd feel this way Bar mitzvahs and weddings. This is... Let's just let this breathe for a second.
One of the greatest songs ever recorded.
Oh, God, I love this.
Oh, man.
You want to talk about a collection
of 70s stars.
This song has them all.
And all of them had 80s hits.
You have Dionne Warwick,
Elton John,
Gladys Knight,
Stevie Wonder,
and the often uncredited Burt Baccarat
who wrote the song.
Right.
Right.
I remember she had a, I don't know if it was Solid Gold, or she had a show.
Yeah, Solid Gold.
Solid Gold, and she closed with this.
The show would close with this.
She was the host of Solid Gold.
Sorry, Dionne Warwick was?
She was the host of Solid Gold, Dionne Warwick.
Holy shit.
And every episode, and I'd watch this thing,
in every episode, she'd sing this at the end,
if my memory is correct, which it might not be.
Well, I think once it was released,
this was a big song to raise money for the AIDS pandemic.
That's why I thought it would be fitting to play it here during a pandemic.
This song was actually raised, at the time,
which was a lot of money, over $3 million to battle the pandemic of the era.
This song also was a number one.
It was the number one song of 1986.
It won the Grammy Award for Best Pop Performance
and it won the Grammy for the Song of the Year.
It was, like you said, a charity single
and almost, if you think about it,
Elton John was a 70s superstar with 80s hits.
Stevie Wonder was a 70s superstar with 80s hits.
Yep.
Which I'm shocked you didn't end up on this program.
I just was leaving it to you guys to do like part-time lover or I just called to say I love you.
But it didn't come. And guys, this is a great fun fact.
The previous version of
this oh no no no no no please are you getting there yeah yeah yeah okay that
that's gonna be a flop oh yeah I already I've already loaded up I've already
loaded the cannon Mike already has the ammunition that is gonna blow some
fucking minds
some fucking minds.
This right here,
ladies and gentlemen.
Don't adjust your sets.
Prepare to have your mind blown, Tim.
Cam,
I already know
that you may have
just accidentally
stumbled upon this.
That's What Friends Are For was a cover.
What the fuck?
Rod Stewart initially recorded and released the song in 1982.
That's what Friends Are For was a cover of a Rod Stewart song.
Oh, my God.
I had no idea until I looked it up for this program.
That's gross.
Rod Stewart is an appropriate selection for this theme.
Yes.
But this is almost like all the episodes of Pandemic Fridays coming together with this.
Oh, this is just blowing my mind.
When I even sent it to him, when I sent my list to Mike, I said, and here's a bonus.
I will blow your mind.
And I just included the link with no context.
And I know that it blew his mind because he didn't know either.
None of us.
Rod Stewart.
It's a cover.
That's what Friends are for is a fucking cover.
And from like a terrible movie, Night Shift.
With Henry Winkler, right?
That's right.
Also featured Richard Belzer, famously choked out by Hulk Hogan.
I will say about the Rod Stewart song, and like friends of the show here,
you should listen to this song on your own time, the Rod Stewart version. But Rod Stewart, clearly
this is an example
that when you put like different
musicians in the helm,
you get a much better song.
The swing and the cadence that
Warwick, Stevie Wonder
and Gladys Knight bring to the song.
What's that instrument? Is that an organ I hear
back there? What the fuck is that?
I'm not even talking about just the instrumentation,
just the swing, like the pocket that they sing the words.
Like, they go, keep smiling, keep shining.
And Rod Stewart's is like, keep smiling, keep shining.
Like, it's like out of the pocket and not as cool.
It's like one, he's probably recording one take.
Like, it sounds like shit.
Dare I say, it was like, you know, the un, you know,
and Rod Stewart actually has a lot of rhythm and groove. He's got some
funky songs, but he is out of the pocket
white guy dancing his way through this song.
Do you think I'm sexy? Come on.
It's kind of unfair, though, because going
first is tougher, so you have to look at, like,
CCR writes Proud Mary, right?
Great jam. They wrote it, they're singing it,
whatever, and then you have, like, Tina Turner
shows up, and then
it fucking changes it they're singing it whatever and then you have like tina turner shows up and then it uh fucking
changes everything or like otis redding right otis redding's got a great jam respect what a good song
and you got like a aretha franklin shows up and she's like boom like it's tough to go you know
i would arguably say only one song that i can think of is another cover song that was more successful than this one.
And that would be, in my opinion, probably Whitney Houston, I Will Always Love You.
It's probably the only one that is bigger than this one.
No, no, no.
Okay.
What about Proud Mary?
Well, Proud Mary is a different thing.
I mean, it's maybe just my generation.
How is it different?
Well, Proud Mary is not still played at bar mitzvahs at the end of the night.
No, Stu, Stu.
Not to be a prick and burst your bubble here, but...
Okay, Burt Bacharach wrote this song.
He never recorded it, though. He just wrote it.
Let me finish.
Yes.
wrote this song. He never recorded it, though.
He just wrote it. Let me finish.
Yes.
I'm sorry. I'm getting a bit of a
Papa John Phillips,
Michelle Phillips, California
Dreaming
feel here.
Burt Backer wrote this song.
Was in the more famous...
I don't know.
I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Yeah, we'll talk about this.
No, no, no.
I think you're really like pulling...
You're grasping at air that isn't there.
No, I'm...
I'm not sure what the issue is.
Is it the issue that Bacharach wrote the song?
Wrote the song and then was part of the suite of artists.
Was he?
He's not credited.
He's not in the video.
Well, okay. If that's
the case, then I stand corrected.
Nobody can name...
I don't think you'd be able to name a
Dionne Warwick hit that was not
written by Burt Bacharach.
Not that that matters.
Okay, yeah. No, Stu.
That's Minnie Riperton.
That's Minnie Riperton.
One of the
performers of this song.
So, okay.
I'll back off.
Quick fun fact.
That song you're singing is a Minnie Riperton hit, right?
Can you name her daughter?
Do you know who her daughter is?
No.
I feel like we talked about this on another podcast.
Well, it's a fun fact.
So it comes up.
Maya Rudolph is the daughter of Minnie Riperton,
who sings that song, Loving You.
It's easy when you're beautiful.
Now, I know that we're going to kick out my last jam now,
and it looks like we're running out of time.
Before you do, Dionne Warwick should be discussed
for one more second here.
She, of course, is the aunt of Whitney Houston,
but she went on to
become a fucking
train wreck of a psychic.
And she had her psychic friends network.
She made more money being a
professed psychic
than she ever did recording music.
Unbelievable.
I think that's her version of like Robert Plant.
Perhaps even more egregious i hate to say her big songs back by the way from uh her biggest hits uh uh i say a little prayer for
you wait you mean aretha franklin huh that's aretha franklin right no it's dionne warwick
yeah i think she did a lot of songs that other people play like i think of walk on walk on by Huh? That's Aretha Franklin, right? No, it's Dionne Warwick. Yeah. I don't think so.
I think she did a lot of songs that other people play.
Like, I think of Walk on By.
Walk on By, Alfie.
Do you know the way to San Jose?
I'll never fall in love again.
Then came you.
We can just, we can say on the, for sure, Say a Little Prayer for You was the most famous
version that everybody knows is Aretha Franklin, right?
I don't think so.
I remember the Warwick version.
I don't know. What I remember the Warwick version. I don't know.
What a fucking liar.
Okay.
I still think that if you,
a bigger cover success
after we mentioned Aretha Franklin,
so respect, of course,
but would be Tina and Ike Turner
performing Proud Mary.
To me, that is your,
one of your greatest covers of all time.
And I'd like to kick out my,
uh,
my final jam.
If you don't mind.
Fucking great song.
Great movie.
I feel like we've played this song before,
but if we haven't,
it's the best.
No,
we kicked out a different Tina Turner song recently,
a cover that we didn't know was a cover.
I have someone at my door.
I'm going to run real for one second.
Maybe, Cam, you remember which Tina Turner song we kicked out recently?
I think it was The Best.
Yes, probably, because that's a cover.
Yeah, of Bonnie Tyler.
Right.
This, of course, was her monster hit,
What's Love Got to Do With with it which is a great jam and of course tina that's one of the great comeback stories if you will because tina was a
with her ex ike turner
you know she came back with that private dancer, and then next thing you know, she's everywhere.
She's in Mad Max movies,
and she's got songs from the Mad Max soundtrack,
and of course, this was a big one.
What's Love Got To Do With It?
I was going to say, a lot sort of better narrative
as a comeback story,
because of the shit she had to deal with
on a few different fronts of the 70s. This wasn't
like purely kind of a booze and drugs
thing or like Robert Plant coming
back and sampling
Led Zeppelin so he could do a Coke commercial
or Dionne Warwick with the fucking Psychic
Friends hanging out.
Just like a pure story of
like a real
I don't know, just a real talent.
Like who does not like Tina Turner?
Everybody's rooting for her for the reasons
you mentioned. So we're all rooting for her. She's got
the chops, right?
What a performer.
What great songs. Good actress
as well.
And I learned she's now
80 years young. This is
Octagerian.
Octagerian?
If I may. If I may.
If I may.
Tina Turner, of course, putting Angela Bassett on the map.
But I will say that Tina Turner's uncanny, unpredicted success.
Whoever predicted this success and the man responsible for putting this out is a genius.
I'll allow Cam, or Mike, since this is your song, to do the research on that.
But her success opened up the door for Chaka Khan to make a comeback,
for Anita Baker to make a comeback, for Aretha Franklin.
Aretha Franklin.
We're going riding on the freeway of love.
I mean, all of these sort of 70s staple soul sort of singers.
Tina Turner opened the door for the unimagination of the record business
as we always describe, and that's sort of the basis of this show.
The unimagination is like, oh, it worked.
Get me a Tina Turner.
Find me someone.
Go get Gladys Knight in here.
You know, somebody call Chaka Khan.
And that's exactly what happened.
So right.
And I don't know that any play with Cher.
I mean, she was kind of...
Maybe, but I'm, you know, Cher wasn't
necessarily as soulful as, you know.
Sorry, this is a small
aside, but I'm going to throw it out there because I know
Mike loves talking about this song.
Rumble and the song Safe
is that a cover of the
Massive Attack song? No
No. That's a
sample. A sample, yeah
That's sort of in the Salt-N-Pepa
Although it's probably the same money
It's probably the same amount of money
Yeah
I would arguably say that when this song, at the height of its song,
the top five celebrities in the music world, Tina Turner was right there.
Madonna, Michael Jackson, Prince, Tina Turner is right there.
I'd say Bruce Springsteen rounds out the top five.
But I'm saying she's in the conversation.
That's how big she was.
I was seven, eight, nine years old, and I was buying Tina Turner records.
Oh, yeah.
And she had that signature blonde hair and the leather skirt.
She really had something for everyone, like the 60s burnouts,
the horny young boys, the film fans.
We mentioned ZZ Top's Legs, which we could have played today.
Also, Ace of Base.
Tina had those great legs.
Those Nazis, Ace of Base famously covered one of Tina's songs,
Don't Turn Around.
Right.
It all comes full circle.
It all comes around.
Guys, I had a great time.
Did you guys have fun?
Yeah, another victory for Stu, another great Friday.
I love it.
The feedback from this show, we look forward to seeing the comments on Twitter and on Mike's blog.
Yeah.
I feel like this had the best songs of all these episodes, too.
We had some just great, great hits.
Who picked the topic?
I forget.
I forget, too.
I think it was one picked by Pat.
Let's give Ian the final word.
How do you say that word? I was butchering octogenarian. How do you say that word I was butchering
octogenarian how do you say that word
octogenarian
so there's another syllable in there
once again I'm foiling
ironically the decade that we were
celebrating on this week's show
the octogenarian the 80s
and that
brings us to
the end of our 634th show.
Who's picking next week's category?
Is that you, Mike?
Is it already me?
Okay, yeah, I guess it's me.
You can follow me on Twitter.
I'm at Toronto Mike.
Stu from the Edison Twins.
He's at Stu Stone.
Cam from
Twitter Canada is at Cam
underscore Gordon.
All he wants to do is make love
to you. Our friends at Great
Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer.
Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta.
Sticker U is at Sticker U.
The Keitner Group are at
The Keitner Group. CDN
Technologies, welcome to the family.ner Group. CDN Technologies, welcome to the family.
They're at CDN Technologies.
And Garbage Day are at GarbageDay.com slash Toronto Mike.
Ian, sign up, brother.
You going to do it?
I will, I will.
I will.
And everybody should be like Ian.
Don't be like Tim.
Be like Ian.
See you all next week.
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