Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Autumn Jams: Toronto Mike'd #723
Episode Date: September 18, 2020This Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out the best Autumn jams with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon....
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I'm Mike
from
torontomike.com and joining me for the
27th
Pandemic Friday
is Stu Stone
and Cam Gordon.
Hi, Mike.
I was going to say we just hit the half-year mark, but I guess that was last week.
52 weeks a year.
Your math is excellent.
Correct.
We're in the second half of the pandemic year.
Six months we've done this?
Over six months.
And those case numbers.
And our bank accounts.
We're looking better.
Both going way up.
Yeah.
Anyway, good to be here, as always.
Stu Shanatova.
Yes, that was very well said.
Oh, yes.
Look at you.
Yes, happy Jew year to you as well.
Yes.
And to Kim.
And this is a happy time.
This is your new year.
It's New Year's.
Yes, it's New Year's.
It's the new year.
So you dip some apples in honey
and you wish for a sweet new year.
And people always say,
wish you a happy and healthy new year.
I think this year more than ever,
we're hoping for happiness and health,
healthiness for everybody as we go through and navigate through these
troubled waters of the pandemic.
I will say that Cam, when he got here today,
when he had those glasses on, which I hope you take a picture of,
like his Joe Biden look, the leather jacket and the aviators.
Mean business, yeah.
Looks good, man. Looking good.
Thank you. I like the fall fashion, for sure.
Well, earlier I said he looked like George Michael,
and you said more Andrew Ridgely.
Yeah.
But both handsome men.
Joe Biden and Andrew Ridgely?
Looking esteemed, yet rugged.
Like Indiana Jones on an off day. Like I'm here to do
business, as we all are.
I would say that I think this is
autumn is Cam's season.
Yes. He's autumn. Yeah, right now
he's definitely, he's got a fall jacket.
I'm still dressed like it's summer.
Got my jean machine. Got my
nice sneakers on.
Those are clean. Yeah, yeah, fresh.
Now this is, well, I know, okay, so we're not going to disclose what day it is.
I'm going to try to drop this before TMLX 6.
That's all I'm going to say.
We're at an undisclosed location.
There is no, if you're looking for the Periscope feed.
The basement of a synagogue.
You never know.
We could be anywhere right now in the world.
If you're looking for the Periscope feed, because a lot of people watch us on Periscope,
you will not find it.
Unless you go to Cam's OnlyFans.
It will be exclusively posted.
There's a nominal fee for that one.
There's a paywall.
But it is dropping on,
we are dropping this episode just before TMLX6.
Yes, congratulations on that.
Was it successful?
I feel like I'm talking to Stu from the future.
How did it go?
I think it went pretty good.
Did you show up at TMLX?
I was not there.
I was there from a distance, like the Bette Midler song says.
From a distance.
I was watching, and it looked very pleasant.
The attendance seemed to be right.
Did we get the over or the under on 19.5?
I thought someone dropped like 24.5, which seemed kind of ambitious.
But the joke there, that was a joke, I think.
Pandemic rules are 25 now.
So because I had, I'll tell you the truth, some real talk here.
I had Stephen Del Duca on the program, leader of the Liberal Party of Ontario.
Wow, that's a big get.
Doug caught wind of that, Doug Ford.
And then he said, oh, there's a TMLX6 on Friday?
He's like, Friday.
That's real talk, is it?
He's like, well, we'll make sure it isn't, you know, because hundreds were going to come out.
Well, I would say the timing of this is, I don't know.
It's not a private wedding.
You might get dozens.
Well, I got to be careful.
Like if I get three dozen, I'm going to, the plan is like if there's a.
That's not happening. I'm going to divide it into two different get three dozen, the plan is... That's not happening.
I'm going to divide it into two different events.
This is a plan that will never happen.
What is an event?
I'm going to go with a baker's dozen.
The line has been adjusted from 19.5 to 13.5.
This man knows gambling.
I'm taking the over on that then.
I'm taking the over.
Is it fair to say neither of you two gentlemen are at TML?
Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it.
I need to exchange a car with my partners.
I figured Ken would sign some autos,
take some Polaroids.
Yeah, I have some glossies.
If I can't even get you two,
who we've spent...
It's tough to get you two.
I mean, that's a pretty big get.
Maybe aim a little lower.
Yeah, I mean, like,
wasn't Helix playing there last summer?
Striper?
Striper, Kim Mitchell.
That's Sam Smith Park.
Marie Curtis Park.
Can I give a 10- second anecdote about Harold Ballard?
Yeah, I would love it.
Anyway, my mom was once on an airplane with Harold Ballard.
Where did this come from?
No, it's about when you talk about glossies.
Okay.
You know, just started talking to him.
You know, this was the Yolanda era.
She just passed away.
Yeah.
And just like randomly out of his bag,
he just pulled out a glossy photo of himself
and just started signing it.
Did not ask my mom if she wanted a glossy photo
of Harold Ballard and hand it over.
That's worth like 1700 now.
I would totally want that, yeah, if I had it.
And you know who put the dirt on his coffin?
That was Andrew Stokely.
No, that's a good guess.
So this is at Park Lawn Cemetery. Rick Five? Molly Johns, Molly Johns. It's an FOT No, that's a good guess. Okay. So this is at Park Lawn Cemetery.
Rick Five?
Molly Johns.
Molly Johns.
It's an FOTM.
That's your clue.
Oh, so it's not.
Jeff Merrick.
Okay.
So Jeff Merrick put the dirt on the casket that belonged to Harold Ballard.
I was going to say something inappropriate.
In the Park Lawn Cemetery.
That's a true story.
Yes, that's right.
So that's real talk.
That's real talk.
And he also worked for a short while at Great Lakes Brewery.
Did he really?
Yeah.
Jeff Merrick was buddies with.
There's a Humberside Collective that includes a guy named Mike Lackey and the owner, Peter
Bullitt.
The Bullitt family owns Great Lakes and they're all like a Humberside Collective.
And he was in that collective.
Well, remember that other guy named Mike who worked at Twitter Canada when you came in
and he knew all the Great Lakes people?
That sounds like Mike right there.
He sounded like he sort of knew about the owners and stuff.
So, like, yeah.
Oh, well, it's just...
Oh, you're going to make noise?
That's good.
Oh, okay.
Because if you have to, yeah,
we only need an hour, but it's okay
if you have to do that.
Yeah, bring the noise. Okay,
thanks for letting me know, though. Turn it up!
So that's Bojana, who
lives a couple of doors
down.
And she's going to mow
my neighbor's lawn.
She's mowing the neighbor's lawn? Yeah, that's the kind of person Bojana is.
She's very giving.
Oh, it is loud.
Oh, wow.
Should we stop her?
No, I think let it go.
Yeah.
Let it go.
I mean, these are the sounds of autumn, Mike, right here.
Well, now you've given away our location.
We are at a...
We're two doors down from Mike's house at his neighbor's house.
Bojana can work a mower there I did give away our location
Should we make away some lemonade?
I was trying to be so clever and discreet
And she blew it
Her outfit is quite revealing for this temperature
So okay
I apologize for the ambient noise
Hopefully we outlasted her
But you're right, autumn is here, right?
The leaves are changing color That's a leaf blower you're hearing.
So that's a very good segue.
I mean, like all the leaves are brown.
The skies are gray. No spoilers, brother.
So, real talk.
Stu Stone. Yes. Before I get to the obvious
questions about the new movie, I'll get to it in a moment.
But real talk. The answer is no.
You never liked
the topic today.
Yeah, what's your beef with this?
Yeah, talk to us, because Cam and I love it.
I actually paid Bujana to sabotage this episode,
because I knew it would be, you know,
we're jumping into a pit of dead leaves here.
You know, I just...
There's not a lot of options here, so it's like...
Oh, not like Yacht Rock.
Yacht Rock, there's like 100 songs.
Autumn songs, there's literally like 16 songs, and we pick 15 of them.
The universe of autumn songs is similar.
People just don't write autumn songs.
There's not a lot out there.
So maybe that's something that future musicians who are listening to should write some autumn songs,
because there's not a lot.
There's plenty of winter songs.
There's lots of summer songs.
A few spring songs. Not too much autumn. There's like, winter songs. There's lots of summer songs. A few spring songs.
Not too much autumn.
There's like, you know, a couple.
There's a baker's dozen.
Well, somehow we came up with five songs each.
Yeah, I got real obvious hacking choices.
The funny thing is, I came up with five right away.
Cam came up with five, none of which I had.
But then when Stu gave me his five, like half of them, like two of them were taken by Cam.
Another was taken by me.
That's because there's
not a lot out there
is my point.
Bujana sent in two.
Mower by the band Superchug.
You know,
I don't stand by all my picks.
There's even some repeats
of stuff we've heard
in the last six months
on the show,
but new anecdotes.
Well, that's nothing new for you.
New anecdotes.
I like this topic
because it's topical.
Like,
when is the official
first day of fall?
Is it on the 20th? Isn't it the 20th? I think it's like this. It's like Tuesday or something. Okay, because it's topical. When is the official first day of fall? Is it on the 20th?
Isn't it the 20th?
Do anyone do that homework?
It's like Tuesday or something.
Okay, so it's coming up really soon.
Remember, the cover of Everything I Long For by Hayden,
he's mowing the lawn.
Just like Bojana.
Bojana.
I think Bojana was properly recreating that cover for us.
You need the Rivers Air Force version of Beach Boys Marcella,
but like Bojana.
Just like Bo or something.
Oh, Bojana.
Oh my God.
So it is...
Bojana.
Oh, Bojana.
Mr. Bojana.
Bojana.
Bo knows.
Bo knows Boeing.
Oh, yo, Bo knows this
and Bojana knows that.
So much, yeah.
Bojana knows. So... Bo knows. So fall this and Bojana mows that. Bojana mows.
So fall is coming.
Yes.
By the way, do you find it pretentious to say autumn?
Should we be saying fall?
I've heard this.
I like autumn.
It's like New England, like prep school type word or something.
Because I feel the working man is not calling it autumn.
It feels a little bit elitist.
I feel like fall you get into a bit of who's on first,
just because it's such a common word.
Autumn is unique.
Stu, what do you prefer, autumn or fall?
I prefer spring and summer.
But if I had to pick, fall would be my third favorite season.
Spring and summer and fall.
Autumn, fall.
I mean, it goes either way.
Tomato, tomato,
in my opinion.
If someone says autumn,
I know what they mean and if they say fall,
I also know what they mean.
You don't judge.
Maybe I'm like,
oh, I don't really talk
about fall or autumn
so I don't have a preference
and I don't like the music.
Maybe he doesn't like
the season.
No, I don't mind the season.
Football's back.
You know, it's...
Back to school.
Do you like when
the leaves change color? Sure. And yeah, and again... I just don't like winter and it's's back. You know, it's... Back to school. Do you like when the leaves change color?
Sure.
And yeah, and again...
I just don't like winter.
And it's just a sign that winter is coming.
And it's just...
Winter is coming.
Although, like, post-season baseball is always...
Hopefully the Jays will be there if they, you know...
Hopefully they gave up all of the runs they're going to give up this last week.
That was something, right?
40-something runs over three days.
That's tough to do, actually.
Ouchy.
So, autumn is...
Yeah, I know.
I'm just talking long enough
to get through the lawn mowing.
But autumn is coming.
Our topic today
is autumn jams.
We each have five.
Now, Stew Stone,
for weeks now,
we've been teasing
that you have a new movie
coming out.
A real tease.
I've been watching
your videos.
The vlogs.
Yes, tell me about the vlogs
and how Great Lakes made its appearance.
Because I had a question from Troy at Great Lakes.
He wanted to know,
he was asking,
what's that about or something like that.
Oh, maybe he didn't realize
that you had given me those Great Lakes.
Well, I told him.
I said, you know,
you should listen to Toronto Mic
because Stu is on every week
and he had some octopus wants to fight.
But tell us about the teasers and officially give us the name of the new movie.
Okay.
Well, there's been a series of vlogs that we put up sort of wetting people's whistle for what is to come for our new film, The Butler Did It, which comes out October the 14th on Hollywood Suite.
Wait, what day is that?
October the 14th. Yeah, so that's a date on the Hollywood Suite. Wait, what day is that? October the 14th.
Yeah, so that's a date on the Hollywood Suite.
Yep.
And the trailer is going to be out on Monday or Tuesday of next week.
And then it's open season.
Okay, so we cannot give the name of this thing until the trailer comes out.
Well, I mean, we can, but if you waited this long, you may as well wait.
Okay, my beef is I find it annoying.
Well, I apologize.
You're the one that keeps bringing it up like the audience would forget.
Because I'm trying to help you sell tickets or whatever.
I think that this audience that are friends of Stew Stone, the Fosses out there,
they know October 14th is coming, and they're patiently waiting for a title.
I will say that the Great Lakes beer did make an appearance in one of our vlogs.
We had sort of a celebratory moment,
and it was an appropriate time to bust out a couple of tall boys.
Octopus wants to fight.
Yeah, and we drank it, we gave a little plug,
and Great Lakes is definitely product place throughout the new movie.
Wow. More reason to tune in to The Butler Did It.
And Cam, what do you think about this ever long tease?
Well, I've said this before.
With all due respect,
I understand your
frustration. I'm
putting on my PR hat.
This man here has been in show
business for...
close to 40 years.
Yes. Right.
Since the Robin Hood clarity.
Yeah, we were saying when I pulled up, you and I are just like, we're just schmucks who
watch a lot of TV and read a lot of newspapers, grew up and listened to a lot of fan, where
Stu was like living and breathing it.
Oh, yeah.
He's a real deal.
Although his methods seem a bit unorthodox, I'd be remiss to question, because I don't
know that world.
So, and he's done very well for himself.
And like, you know.
Oh, yeah.
Who am I to question the great Stu Stone?
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, and the flicks are great.
I've been, you know,
I've personally been to three of his premieres,
always a good time.
This year there probably won't be one,
which is sad.
Probably not.
Because of this COVID,
it doesn't sound like it.
So in a normal year,
let's say there's no pandemic.
In a normal year,
we would have a premiere,
there'd be a couple hundred people there.
You would be there, Mike.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
I feel,
I would offer passes to friends of the show,
listeners,
I would be able to. Then you would, listeners. I would be able to...
Then you would probably come to TMLX6 to give a read.
I would do a contest at TMLX6.
Like, you would meet all this cast of characters that Stu and I talk about from our high school days.
We can introduce you.
But DJ Farbsy would probably be there.
He'd probably be spinning on the ones and twos.
Yeah, my mom.
Carrie would be there.
Would DJ Lethal be there?
Probably doesn't do a fly-in for the Toronto screening, but... Colt Cabana? No, he won't be there. Would DJ Lethal be there? Probably doesn't do a fly-in for the Toronto screening.
Colt Cabana?
No, he won't be there.
But listen, hopefully there'll be more movies so that we can have that experience.
What about Balthazar Getty?
Would he be there?
No, no, not Balthazar.
But I'm saying that if all things go well and the fans and listeners of this program
are supportive of the film, it doesn't take a lot for me to achieve success.
The bar is pretty low here.
So if the movie comes up on Hollywood Suite
on the 14th
and a couple hundred people from this show
happen to order the channel for the free preview
to watch the movie,
if they can cancel it after that,
if they want, I don't know.
Good pro tip.
But it would definitely look good on us
and perfect.
Bougie is done with the, good job there, looks good.
And the movie comes out October 14th.
The Butler did it, tentative working title.
But next week we'll talk about the real title.
The cat will be out of the bag.
I promise, Mike.
The teasing is over.
The foreplay is over.
We will be flogging next week.
I don't want to swear in front of Bojana.
No, she knows what's up.
Your super fan, Cam Brio.
Yes.
He desperately wants me to ask you about something.
I'm going to play this now.
Oh, wait.
He sent an audio clip?
Well, he sent a YouTube clip, and I made it an audio clip.
So, yeah.
Here it is.
It's got a little bumper music at the beginning here.
I guess I could edit it if that helps.
Is this a work or a shoot?
Is this for real?
Samantha gets out with Reel TV Films.
I'm here with Stu Stone.
Stu's got, like, a ton of different talents.
I don't know.
He's an actor, a musician.
Right now, he's got something called Save the Gingers.
Save the Gingers.
He's going to tell us about.
But this guy was also at, like, you know, name it, Donnie Darko,
blowing up on MTV with Jamie Kennedy
Tell me about save the ginger
I do want to talk about this. It's a very serious problem Sam. Now. I know you're a brunette
So you don't really have to worry about this problem. Oh my god
Gingers it's come out scientists have have said that the ginger, the gene that gingers have, that redheads have,
it's a dying gene.
It's a dying breed.
They say within 100 years there will be no more redheads.
Redheads are dying.
That's like a, men love redheads.
So I have been hired by the Save the Gingers Foundation to launch a campaign
which encourages people who are not gingers like yourself and myself
to go out and find a ginger and mate with them you know to get the
population of gingers keep it from dying. Hold on, it encourages people to go and mate with redheads?
Yes, but for the most part that the main message that I'm trying to convey is
that we need to save the gingers. If you go onto YouTube and you search save the
gingers you will see my instructional video, which I release,
which is also available on iTunes.
It's called Save the Gingers,
and it's an instructional how-to sort of guide
on how one would be able to save the gingers.
So I'm Stu Stone, and that's what you need to look for.
Save the gingers.
Stu Stone, we're so excited to see you come out of the warm.
So tell us, what the hell are we listening to?
I had launched a campaign.
This is maybe 10 years ago.
I forgot about that.
See, these things don't go away and die like these.
That sounds problematic without seeing the visuals.
Not at all.
There's nothing problematic about it.
You can consensually make a redhead cam.
Shut his mic off.
Consensual adult sex is all good.
I'm talking about the Sky Vodka Company
was releasing a new...
This is the real talk.
Sky Vodka was putting out a ginger-flavored drink.
And so it was a pitch.
There was a pitch to get involved
and run a marketing campaign online.
I had some success with other viral videos
like Circle
Circle Dot Dot and Bob Saget and some other stuff that were huge that were at the time
considered really big viral sort of hits. And so you were financially compensated by
a vodka company to to talk about the good word. They wanted something kind of funny
and humorous. So I made a rap song. We made like a fake, not a fake. We made a video,
a real video. So there's a rap song out there. is there's a video it's really funny there's a a video on youtube that you could watch
that's it's pretty funny wow but uh okay you know so that we heard what year was that from probably
2010 okay wow so this was sort of before like the big influencer boom on social media yeah so this
is when i would have been i would have been leaned on as like a new kind of...
Stu was the original influencer.
Well, they were like,
well, we want to try to do things online.
Who do we talk to?
And I was like on that short list of people that had...
You were in Donnie Darko.
Well, that interview happened to be at a party
that someone was interviewing people at.
That wasn't an official event.
That was sort of a tongue-in-cheek sort of,
hey, Stu, why don't you go talk about what you're doing?
And then I just went with it.
But the Save the Gingers
video is pretty funny.
It's kind of silly, but it's funny.
Dig that up, and we'll play that next week.
One thing I'll say is
that we're going to do autumn songs. That is the
topic, and I'm excited.
We did redhead songs. Save the Gingers could have
been it. Stu's less excited,
but it's going to be great.
We have Redhead songs. Save the gingers could have been it. Stu's less excited, but it's going to be great. But we have a lot, like we have no shortage of topics to get us through this pandemic
because we finally got our shit together and we started sharing a spreadsheet and putting
all our ideas in the spreadsheet.
We're now taking suggestions and we vote on it basically.
So we're going to, everything that all three of us have approved, and I will point out,
we didn't all approve today's topic.
So today is like the last time.
The last bastion.
Two of us approved today.
I thought you said those were two out of three pickety ghosts.
Then I changed, when I saw so many, when I saw so many unanimous choices, I decided we'll drain the unanimous choices first before I go to any of these.
There's some fantastic choices in there.
I'm excited.
So, yeah.
So we have a lot of great topics coming up.
So, you know, this pandemic is just getting started.
I'm looking forward to the episode called Jewish or Not,
where we play artists that we thought were Jewish but aren't.
Okay.
I'll be good at this.
Like Bruce Springsteen.
He's not Jewish.
Well, spoiler, you're ruining the episode.
Okay.
That would be great because I understand every member of KISS is Jewish.
Well, every current member possibly, yeah.
Yeah, I think that sounds right.
And the Ramones were all Jewish.
Were they?
Beastie Boys?
Joe Strummer was Jewish.
And, of course, the Watchmen are all Jewish.
Is that true?
Yeah, Davey.
Oh, so maybe they actually like sell watches?
Like that's what they meant?
I don't know if I'm allowed to laugh at these jokes.
Okay.
I was going to say Neil Diamond, but that's...
Barbara Streisand.
No way.
I've got a great sense of smell.
So lots to uncover.
I don't think that's a real topic, but we'll put it in the spreadsheet.
It's not a real topic.
But in the light of Jewish New Year,
I'm allowed to make these kind of kibitzing and
humorous type of
jabs, but Happy New Year
and welcome autumn with this
great topic. And if you're still listening
to the show and you haven't turned it off after Cam's
Harold Ballard story. I was going to say, we've got
fucking Henny Youngman doing his
borscht build. Take my wife, please.
So, a great beverage. I take my
wife out. I'll have beverages, and I can say this because, you know,
I will have cold beverages at TMLX6 tonight in Marie Curtis Park.
Cold arms, cold legs.
Right.
Now, a great beverage for fall, for autumn, if you will,
is they have the pumpkin ale they just put out.
Sure, yeah.
Pumpkin ale.
Just picked some up the other day.
So get your pumpkin ale from Great Lakes Brewery. Do so, yeah. It's really the beer for the season. So get your pumpkin ale, just pick some up the other day. So get your pumpkin ale from Great Lakes Brewery.
It's really the beer for the season.
So get your pumpkin ale.
I saw in your video you had the Octopus Wants to Fight.
That's year-round.
You can still get it.
But support Great Lakes.
Tell them you love their sponsorship of Toronto Mike.
Then go, and this is what you're going to do.
Then you go to Palma Pasta and you buy some authentic Italian food
and you say thank you for supporting Toronto Mike. And then you go to StickerU.com and you get some authentic Italian food and you say thank you for supporting Toronto Mic'd.
And then you go to stickeru.com
and you get some stickers and such.
And then you say thank you for...
You're giving people a lot of stuff to do here.
Yeah.
Thank you for supporting Toronto Mic'd.
And you go to pumpkinsafterdark.com.
Pumpkinsafterdark.com.
Use the promo code MICED, M-I-K-E-D.
That saves you 10%.
And honestly, this will save Halloween
for your kids or your grandkids.
Like this is the,
you gotta save Halloween.
The number we hit 400 cases.
Okay.
Uh,
Halloween's going to be dramatically different and we can save it,
uh,
safely by buying tickets at pumpkins after dark.com.
What if someone's like trying to buy a house in Mimico?
Honestly,
I think you both should move to this neck of the woods
just because it's a long commute for you.
You've got to talk to Austin Keitner at the Keitner Group.
You just text Toronto Mike to 59559.
Say, Mike suggested I talk to you.
I'm looking to buy and or sell the next six months.
I'm literally moving in the other direction in two weeks.
Do you get kickback for people who say that?
Do you get some action?
Not currently. You should. You should renegotiate because you get kickback for people who say that? Do you get some action? Not currently.
You should. You should renegotiate because you're posting photos for sale. Like if I go
on your blog and I buy one of those houses,
you should get a piece of that
action. I was going to say, are you monetizing that?
And that would be a lot more money.
Even if you took a half of a half of a percent,
you're still a couple thousand bucks.
That one Mimico home, it's like two and a half million bucks.
If someone buys that through your click-through,
that's worth something.
Dude, you're right.
Honestly, I'm going to talk to them.
I'll be texting Toronto Mike to 59559.
You've got that malware problem on your website.
Clear it up now.
You're good to go.
Well, I'm all good.
And the reason is because I outsource my IT to CDN Technologies.
Wow, good one, Cam.
I didn't even see that one coming.
You're going to be like a chess match.
You're going to be two moves ahead there.
So always contact Barb.
Again, if you're an email person.
Oh, Barb, right, right, right.
Barb Paluskiewicz.
Barb Paluskiewicz.
You can call her at 905.
905.
I always think Patrick's got life insurance.
905-542-818.
No, not 8.
Beachfront Avenue.
Hollywood Hills.
Okay, so it is 905-542-9759.
That's how you get a hold of Barb,
a writer at barbatcdntechnologies.com.
And if you want your lawn mowed quickly, quickly.
I mean, this lady was-
She can't hear me, right?
Can I say?
I think she's way over there.
She's about 84 years old.
She did that lawn in like five minutes.
And it's not even her house.
She doesn't even look a day.
That's not her house.
She doesn't look a day over 81.
I got to say, because I'm out biking all winter and I can tell you, she's the only neighbor
I have who I see out and about all winter long.
She's unbelievable. She's climbing on a ladder to go I see out and about all winter long. She's unbelievable.
She's climbing on a ladder to go clean like someone's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's unbelievable.
If you ever wanted to know the answer.
She's my role model.
If you ever wanted to know the answer to the question, who wears short shorts?
She's literally climbing a ladder right now.
Of all the days.
Can you see this?
She's climbing up a ladder by herself.
Of all the days not to have a periscope feed.
This is the wrong day.
I'm not lying.
He's not even kidding.
No, that's not a joke.
Sue doesn't do jokes.
Okay.
Good for her.
Gentlemen, it is autumn almost, and we're going to kick off the fall brawl.
Would you interrupt recording to help her?
Of course I would.
This man has four children.
I'm not a monster.
My pet monster.
Oh, yeah.
In Magic School Bus,
My Pet Monster,
Donnie Dargo.
Save the gingers.
Babar?
Babar.
Babar.
I love Babar.
Babar.
The raccoons.
Raccoons.
Yeah, keep going.
Edison Twins.
Edison Twins, yes.
Something with Cynthia Dale.
I'm trying to do... Heavenly Bodies. At some point, I'll be able to do the entire... Wayne and Schuster. Oh, my God. Edison Twins. Edison Twins, yes. Something with Cynthia Dale. I'm trying to do...
Heavenly Bodies.
At some point, I'll be able to do the entire...
Wayne and Schuster.
Oh, my God.
That's right.
He played the kids.
The A&W root beer commercials.
Those were kind of popular for a little while.
Kraft Dinner.
Kraft Dinner.
That's a famous one.
The Little Green Sprout.
Oh, my God.
You're the Little Green Sprout.
We've talked about that, I think.
I know.
It's fun to play in exciting places.
Which one was that?
Was that you?
Yes.
Okay.
That was like a safety one.
Oh, it's Burton Gertz.
Stay alert, stay safe.
Wow.
Don't you put it in your mouth.
Teddy Bear's Christmas.
Before I kick out the first jam, Cam, this is for you.
Do you ever feel like we're unworthy to be in his car? No.
I've said this many times.
Again, you and I are just guys who grew up reading the Tron Star,
listening to Fan 590.
We're just guys.
We're just guys.
I grew up reading the Toronto Sun and listening to 1050.
We're like the Derek Fisher of the outfield here.
Totally.
Meanwhile, Stu's still here. I'm like Derek Fisher of the NBA.
Right.
Right, that's right.
You know, underappreciated, but still can hit that clutch shot.
It's a borderline Hall of Famer, is he not?
Derek Fisher?
He's a champ.
Not a Hall of Famer, but he's a champ. He's a role player. Yeah. That's a borderline Hall of Famer. Is he not? Derek Fisher? He's a champ. Not a Hall of Famer. He's a role player.
Yeah.
That's a lot of rings.
Was it you last week
or two weeks ago
who said Kyle Lowry
was a Hall of Famer?
Yeah, I think we're
Who was the guy
who was on the Lakers
in Houston
and won like six rings?
Oh, yeah.
Starts with a C.
Yeah, he won a bunch of rings.
Cliff Robinson?
No, no, no.
No, RIP.
Yeah.
Anyway, that guy. That guy. Charlie Villanueva? No. I know exactly who you're talking about. Cliff Robinson? No, no, no. He just passed away. RIP. Yeah. Anyway, that guy.
Charlie Villanueva?
No.
I know exactly who you're talking about.
And he was like, you're always like the fifth.
Yeah.
But that guy gets mentioned.
Should that guy be in the Hall of Fame?
Yeah.
And the answer is no.
No.
No.
I mean, no.
God, what is that guy?
Okay.
I need to look this up.
But yeah, let's kick out.
And again, I can see his face.
I just can't pull the name out because, you know, it's like he won with Hakeem and then went to like the Shaq and Kobe Lakers.
Oh, Robert Ori?
Yes.
Robert Ori.
Thank you.
He's good.
He should be.
He made some clutch shots.
But he's not a Hall of Famer.
He could be if he's got all those rings.
Well, you know.
That's not enough.
You know it's like that.
He wasn't a bench player.
He was a real player.
Yeah, but you can't.
Oh, because you got rings as a starter doesn't make you a Hall of Famer.
Listen, sometimes guys do things that don't show up on the stat sheet. got rings as a starter doesn't make you a Hall of Famer. Sometimes guys
do things that don't show up on the stat sheet.
But you know who's going to be the next version
of this? Manu
Ginobili.
He's not a Hall of Famer. Yeah, but a lot of guys think he should
because he's got what? Four rings?
Oh, Ginobili from...
He's a Hall of Famer, yeah, for sure.
But he was always like a sixth guy.
No, no, he was a stud. Yeah, no, he was awesome, but he's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, for sure. But he was always like a sixth guy. No, no. He was a stud.
Yeah, no.
He was awesome, but he's a Hall of Famer.
We're not talking about Turkoglu here.
This is Ginobili.
He was a big part of those championships.
Like Turkoglu was a real prick, at least during his Raptors time, I must say.
Dumb question.
Kukoc is not in the Hall of Famer.
He should be.
Well, that gets into like kind of his entire body of work.
Internationally, for a guy to come to the NBA
From there
He had to be the best
Okay
Yeah
Anyway let's get underway
We can debate this all day long
But I'm gonna kick it
It's like Drake
Like in order for Drake
To make it in rap music
He had to be the best
Because he had to overcome
Being Canadian
The fact that he was
A. Canadian
B. Undegrassy
C. Jewish
Well sure that too
But my point is Is this guy had to over...
Third base was Jewish.
He had all sorts of stuff that would prevent him from becoming a success.
And a lot of people probably doubted him.
So good for him.
Shanatova to Drake.
Happy New Year, Drake.
Absolutely.
And here is Cam Gordon's first autumn jam.
This is why you picked this topic, so you can play this.
Some dreams are in the nighttime
And some seem like yesterday
But least in bottom weight And some seem like yesterday But leaves to bomb and fade
Ships sail away
You long to say a thousand words
But seasons change
It feels like it's forever
No reason for emptiness
But time just runs away
No more day by day
You dream again
It seems in vain
When seasons change
I want you
I want to feel you by my side
I need you Wow. Don by my side I need you
Wow
Don't you know I need you
Cam's just grooving.
Look at him.
He's so happy.
This is a great song.
I mean, we should just cut the tape right here.
So this is the band Expose with the song Seasons Change.
Is this about fall or is this about relationships that change?
It's about seasons.
It's a literal song. But maybe with a bit of metaphor.
This is from 1987.
He needs to point.
Which season is changing into which season?
This doesn't sound like autumn to me.
Maybe fall is turning.
Oh, God, we'd still make it an autumn song.
You're just banking on the fact it's not winter turning into spring or spring turning into summer.
Seasons change. Feelings change Seasons change, feelings change.
You know, she's talking about how...
Feelings, leaves change, you know, the read between the lines here,
you know, back to school.
Did she say leaves change?
No, there's no mention of leaves in this.
She doesn't mention back to school either.
She's not specific as to which seasons are changing.
There's a line about Rosh Hashanah and like this listen.
Okay, well, I'll have to pay attention.
Anyway, we'll give it a listen on the playback.
Anyway, expose, seasons change change this is from 1987 so expose was an american latin
freestyle vocal group that achieved most of their success between the years 1984 and 1993
um this song was actually the fifth single from their debut album. And easily their biggest song.
How often is the...
This should be a topic. Fifth singles that become
the biggest hit of a band's career.
Their other songs included Point of No Return,
Exposed to Love,
which Stu, every Friday night
and midnight, exposing himself to love.
I wish.
Let Me Be The One was another one.
I don't know that one.
This song, in fairness, I know
it was a joke. What was the other one?
I didn't write it down for some reason.
Is there any other expose songs that
are known? I thought they had a 90s hit.
Their follow-up album, the lead single
was something called What You Don't Know Might Hurt You.
What You Don't Know Might
Hurt You. Good singing.
Thank you. Is that your singing debut real... Good singing. Thank you.
Is that your singing debut?
This is how he gets the ladies.
Yeah.
So anyway, this band was definitely a late 80s phenomenon generally.
Kind of like Candy in the Backbeat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like in Gotham Traffic, like two...
The Jets maybe almost?
Yeah, the Jets.
Yeah, the Jets are a good one.
Right.
Right.
Well, I'm just going to jump right into it because they... Was it Rocket 2U? Was that the big Jets song? Yeah, the Jets. Yeah, the Jets are a good one. Right. Right? Well, I'm just going to jump right into it
because they...
Was it Rocket 2U?
Is that the big Jets song?
Yeah.
That was good.
And I've got a crush on...
Oh, baby, I got to love you.
They did a couple of hits.
Head to toe, yeah.
Right.
Or Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam.
Oh, yeah, Lisa Lisa and the Cult Jam.
Yeah.
So anyway, they came up because,
I mean, Exposé has played...
This is a good note. In Cam's bedroom. Yeah, so... Well, I mean, Exposé has played.
This is a good note.
In Cam's bedroom.
Yeah, well, I mean.
Bathroom.
You know, you know.
So they broke up around 1993.
Got back together in 2003. Well, you know why they broke up?
Will you let me finish?
No, because they broke up because seasons change and feelings change.
Okay, and seasons like fall and you can't tour in the fall.
Anyway, I've lost my train of thought here.
That's so bad.
Come on, Cam's doing a good job.
Encourage him.
So anyway, I'm just saying, Exposé reformed in 2003.
Thank God.
Now, if you look on their Wikipedia pages, there's a photo of the members signing autographs.
It's something called the Mid-State Fair.
Oh.
Stu, do you know where this is?
Paso Robles, California.
Yes. Is that near LA? Paso Robles, California. Yes.
Is that New Orleans? He's got no fucking clue. It's just like an essential
part of the state. Yeah.
Paso Robles. So anyway, based on their
Wikipedia, when they reformed, they
played a lot of casinos and state fairs.
They also played Epcot Center. Oh, thank God.
That was a slow night.
You know, you've arrived.
That is a great song. Well, I was going to say it That's how you know you've arrived. But that is a great song.
Well, I was going to say it's interesting when you look on their...
It's not a great song.
Their Spotify account in the...
Fuck you.
Stu hates the topic and that song.
Sorry, Buban.
Bojan is a lovely Polish name.
Anyway, I'm saying people who like expose based on the Spotify algorithm,
the other artists they like, Lisa Lisa and Cult algorithm, the other artists, they like Lisa,
Lisa and cult jam,
the jets.
Sure.
Oh my God.
So good call.
And also Taylor,
Taylor Dane,
Taylor Dane.
Yeah.
Taylor Dane.
So there you go.
Expose seasons change.
A great autumn jam.
What about,
uh,
till Tuesday?
I feel like,
uh,
voices.
I feel like they're too,
too edgy.
I'd say like new shoes,
like I can't wait. I feel like they're too edgy. Okay, too edgy. I'd say like New Shoes.
Like... I can't wait.
Yeah, that's a good one.
I can't wait.
So, okay, firstly, this controversial start.
You notice how we start weak?
We always start weak.
Well, Cam starts.
That's why.
To be honest, and again, I've made this mistake in the past, so I can't judge, but there's
no evidence that's actually an autumn song.
There's no... That's not... There's no... No one... that's actually an autumn song. There's no...
That's not an autumn song.
So to be clear, seasons
changing.
That's not about... That's different than leaves
changing. All the leaves are... Does that have to say
all the fucking leaves are brown and the skies are gray?
What are the months of
fall? Okay, I'll tell you. I know this.
You've got some September in there. Yes.
You've got all of October. Yes. You've got all of October.
Yes.
You've got all of November.
Let's stop there.
You have most of December, by the way. Most of December, but I think that would be very controversial.
Because December sort of starts to get into winter.
November is probably like the prime month.
Right.
October too.
Yeah.
This would be a good song.
Sorry, one more song.
T-Pow, Heart and Soul.
Oh, that's a Cui Luce news.
A little bit of heart and soul. No, the heart of rock and roll. A little bit of rock and roll. Oh, that's a Cui Luce news. A little bit of heart and soul.
No, the heart of rock and roll.
A little bit of rock and roll.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I like that song.
Oh, we got a nice autumn wind coming in here.
Okay, so that's a controversial beginning,
but a great song.
Great song. Do you have eight minutes
and 48 seconds for my next song?
You guys ready for his epic?
This is Stu Stone's epic first autumn jam.
How are we not closing with this?
He picked the order.
I got some time to talk now.
Yeah, talk over it.
For the next three and a half minutes.
Come up here on QL7.
This is November Rain,
which is an autumn song.
Agreed.
This is a great example
of an autumn song.
Similar to Exquisite.
It is a song by Guns N' Roses.
Guns N' fucking Roses.
Written by Axl Rose.
Which is an anagram for oral sex.
Is that true?
I think so.
There is also...
It is for sure true.
real strings,
real symphony orchestra
that you're hearing
that was orchestrated
by Axl Rose,
which is kind of impressive
because I wouldn't know
how to do that.
This song is epic.
Yeah.
Too early, Cam.
Hold on to that.
Hold on.
We show something strange.
Real quick.
Slash in his autobiography
Slash
Also with you. Yes. Slash in his autobiography. Also with you.
Yes.
He stated in his autobiography that there was an 18-minute version of the song November Rain that was recorded in 1986 prior to the recording of Appetite for Destruction.
Correct.
Wow.
There was some mixed feelings on.
Oh, let's listen for a second.
If the cameras were on, I'd be giving you the...
Yeah.
The serpent pile.
Well, listen, some of...
We can turn it down for a second.
Some of Guns N' Roses' most beloved hits
are November Rain, Don't Cry, Patience, Estranged, some
of the slower sort of jams, and Slash and some of the other members of the band didn't
really, according to Axl, didn't want to do, and I'm, this is free, I'm free flowing this
information.
He's not reading this, ladies and gentlemen.
But, you know, according to Axl, the other guys didn't want to do this ballad stuff.
They didn't, they wanted to rock and rock out, and I guess they're pretty according to Axl, the other guys didn't want to do this ballad stuff. They wanted to rock and rock out.
And I guess they're pretty happy if Axl won the argument.
Now, Slash, he says the opposite.
He says he never had any issues with these songs.
And I guess there was disagreements between these two guys that they have since ironed out.
Because Guns N' Roses, hell has frozen over.
And Guns N' Roses did get back together and have toured successfully up until COVID,
and I'm sure they'll tour for many more years to come.
Is this 1986 version of November Rain available anywhere?
I have not been able to find it,
much like the fourth expose single from the album.
I didn't write it down where to find it.
18 minutes, that's like in Degada De Vida territory.
Longest song to ever be on top of the Billboard chart
is November Rain.
What if I told you that? And I'm going to bet it
beat the Bohemian Rhapsody record.
Or I have no idea if Bohemian Rhapsody ever topped
the charts. It's the longest song ever
to reach the top. Top 10, I should
say. Oh, top 10. Okay. Of the Billboard
Hot 100. It's epic, man. It's epic.
And as a lifelong Guns N' Roses fan,
this song is just that video is just larger than life. It's a solid.. It's epic. And as a lifelong Guns N' Roses fan, this song is just,
that video is just larger than life.
It's a solid.
Slash's solo,
which we will get to later in the song,
he claims that he just improvised that on the spot.
Bullshit.
That's what he says.
And we've all seen,
have we all seen Guns N' Roses in concerts?
Yes.
No.
Okay, so that moment when-
I've seen them like three times,
which means I've seen them for about 71 hours.
Right, right. They're like four and a them for about 71 hours. Right, right.
They're like four and a half hours, five hours.
Yeah, yeah.
All the hits.
So when the Slash solo,
when Slash has the spotlight for the solo,
it's quite a moment at these concerts.
It's like, wow.
I can't really imagine.
The music video with Stephanie Seymour.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of people may not remember the storylines
from these music videos,
but apparently, unofficially, November Rain, Don't Cry, and Estranged
are an unofficial trilogy of sorts.
So if you watch those videos, there's sort of a full story.
This I remember.
If I may, Estranged is, in my opinion, a very pretentious video
where I feel like November Rain somehow gets away with being like...
But Estr Strange with the
dolphins is a little much, right?
Apparently Axl came up with the idea for
most of the shit you see
in the video too, including the
second Slash solo, not this one,
where he's in front of a church
which is supposed to be in a forest or a field
and then they found this old church.
Is this where he's, sorry to interrupt,
this is where he's on top of the piano, this one?
Or is that the second one? I'm trying to remember.
I don't remember. The second one is the more impactful one.
Very rare to hear a song with two guitar solos that's not a Toto song.
And it's very exciting that Guns N' Roses did that in this song.
Donald Trump, the current president of the United States,
according to what is out there in the world,
he says this is the greatest music video of all time.
I call bullshit on him liking any piece of music.
Well, apparently he makes people watch this video.
Okay.
Is that true?
Yeah.
There's a good source on that?
Yeah, you can look this up.
It's a real thing.
You're a loser if you don't like it.
And Trump says that this is the best music video of all time.
Obviously, he hasn't watched Michael Jackson's Thriller,
but the November Rain video
was very popular. It's a hell of a video.
It's a hell of a good video.
You've never seen Pape and Cut Your Hair video?
No.
Alright, you ready? I think we've got to turn it up here, right?
Not yet.
Not even. There's three guitar solos.
It's very rare you have a song with three guitar solos that's not a Toto song.
It's just showing off now.
Okay, how about this?
You wink at me when I can turn it up.
Okay.
Okay.
This is the first, in 2018, this became the first music video made before YouTube to surpass
one billion views on YouTube.
Wait, billion with a B?
With a B.
Wow.
It's also the first music video from the 1990s to hit a billion streams.
Wow.
With a B.
With a B.
Wow.
I don't think Steven Adler is the drummer of the band at this point.
Is this when they switched over to...
Matt Sorum?
Yeah.
Matt Sorum.
Yeah, well, this is your Use Your Illusion version.
Remember the popular band Sword from the Terminator 2?
You Could Be Mine?
Could Be Mine.
Of course, of course.
What was that song, Garden of Eden?
Was that this album?
Yeah, that's a double album, right?
So yeah, there's one and two.
And yes, that's from here.
So the funny thing about this band is there's not a lot of stuff, right?
So you got your Appetite for Destruction.
You got GNR Lies, which gives you patience.
Then you get the double disc.
And then everything after that.
And I'm sure that...
Spaghetti incident.
Was that just covers?
Yeah.
Just covers.
Yeah, that's all pure.
Oh, here it is.
This is what you're waiting for.
It's coming.
Then it's like Chinese Democracy, which is all that stuff we don't really talk about
too much.
Do you guys... Are you familiar with that album?
Like, is it good?
I did hear some of it live.
I bet it's probably pretty good.
Here it is.
You ready?
I really fucking dig it.
Yeah.
Ladies and gentlemen, playing center,
number 13, Matt Suntine.
I'd love to ring. Number 13, Matt Suntine. That looked great.
It's still fucking great It just gets better every time
It really does
Wow
What an autumn jam
You're not the only one
You need somebody you need somebody?
Don't you think that you need somebody?
Everybody needs somebody
You're not the only one
You're not the only one
Don't you think that you need somebody?
Don't you think that you need somebody?
Everybody needs somebody You're not the only one You know, this sort of cemented slash.
I mean, I think that like Sweet Child of Mine
and it's obviously a hugely famous riff,
but this solo cemented him
as probably the premier guitar player of his generation.
Now, hear me out for a moment.
You mentioned You Could Be Mine, which, of course, showed up in Terminator 2.
Okay.
So remember when you would hear the story, you'd read Variety,
and you'd hear James Cameron's working on Titanic or whatever,
and then it was such a massive project, and it was like,
no, this is going to be a disaster.
This is the thought. And before it came out, it was like, no, this is gonna be a disaster.
This is my,
this is the thought and like before it came out,
it was like,
this is gonna be a disaster.
Well,
that would work
because it's about Titanic.
Right.
I feel like that song,
can you imagine Axl
like pitching that song?
Okay,
because there's like,
there's a choir in there
and there's like a symphony
like you said
and there's these,
I think it's like a rock opera
type epic thing
and I'm telling you,
that song could have been
a hot mess.
It's like the Heaven's Gate of music.
That song has no business being that fucking good.
I can probably say that after the success of Appetite for Destruction,
and then they were able to put together that album, G&R Lies,
which was just like a throwaway of stuff.
It was like B-sides.
Mama Kin's a cover of an Aerosmith song.
And then they had, yeah.
It was just an excuse to capitalize on their popularity.
I had to kill her.
I used to love her.
I had to kill her.
That was a big one.
They had probably.
That's an H-roll.
The budget from the first record to Use Your Illusion
was probably quadrupled.
And they had all sorts of money to play with.
And so if these guys are real musicians,
which they clearly are,
then they'd want to do,
you know,
listen,
when you heard strings on Rolling Stones records back in the day,
there's actual string sections in there.
So these guys probably wanted to be what,
yeah.
Beatles too.
Led Zeppelin,
any,
any of these rock bands.
But this was also like,
and part of my sort of a metaphor here,
but this was almost like the orgasm of the power ballad
because then it's all grunge
after that. Can we tease
next week's topic? Can we do it?
Songs about orgasms.
Songs about orgasms.
I'm sorry. I didn't know that.
Come on, she's a mother.
But I...
I guess you don't need to know about orgasms
and be a mother. it just means you had sex
female pleasure
okay so right
I'm pro pleasure
for all consenting adults
I just want to
what was I
what the fuck
was I going to say
I don't know
next week's topic
next week's topic
is soft jams
by hard bands
oh yeah
this is a good one
what was the title
you came up with
you're so clever Cam
soft jams by hard bands
something like that, yeah.
So you had a, well, we'll come to the real topic,
but basically it's Hard Bands with Soft Jams.
Yeah, or Hard Artists.
Like, you know, there's hip-hop ballads too.
Right, yeah, yeah.
Like, it doesn't have to be a band even.
Like a hard ax.
I got DMX ballad.
Sugar.
Yes.
Oh, Sugar and Spice.
Oh, Sugar and Spice.
He named it.
We got there.
We got there.
We got there. Robert Ori. We got to work together. Robert Ori, right, right, right. Okay, Sugar and Spice. He named it. We got there. We got there. We got there.
Robert Ori.
We got to work together.
Robert Ori.
Right, right, right.
Okay, so I don't know what to say.
I love that song.
It holds up.
It's fantastic.
And by the way, it's the other song that has Shannon Hu.
Yeah, don't cry.
Yeah, don't cry.
I feel like we have to mention that.
No one's ever heard that before.
Come on.
And he missed out, if I remember correctly, he missed out on the 27 Club because he was
28 when he died. Shannon Hu, he just missed it. Okay. Now, The And he missed out, if I remember correctly, he missed out on the 27 Club because he was 28 when he died.
He just missed it. Okay. Now
the late great. Okay. So where do we
go from there? Well, that's it. So I don't know
where to go from there. Between seasons change
but I'm going to do my best. You ready?
Just coming out strong.
As you did.
Is this the MTV Unplugged version?
No.
I thought that was funny.
There is a great Neil Young Unplugged.
Yeah.
Now, unlike Cam's ambiguous first choice,
November Rain and Harvest Moon have no doubt about it,
they're autumn jams.
No doubt about it.
Just like children sleeping
Sorry, Harvest Moon.
So, Harvest Moon.
What is a Harvest Moon?
It's like an October moon.
It is a full moon that's closest to the autumnal equinox.
Okay.
So basically...
Harvest is October.
Right.
What do you mean?
It's an autumn full moon.
You didn't know harvest moon was an autumn thing?
Okay, Google it.
I just asked you to define it.
I didn't say I didn't know what it was.
Harvest moon.
I mean, absolutely always in autumn.
Harvest Moon.
And this song is from the album of the same name.
Came out in 1992.
You likely saw the video.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Harvest is a different.
No, that's Harvest.
Yeah, it's confusing.
So his MTV Unplugged album Was promoting this album probably
It had stuff that was recent
Like from Hanks to Hendrix
And stuff on there
Yeah
Right
It was like Mansion on the Hill
It was definitely an early 90s thing
For sure
For sure
But this you might
Of course
I don't know
Stu you were in Canada
In the early 90s
Yes
I get confused
Okay
So this was of course
This video was on
Very high rotation
On Much Music
Yeah The Harvest Moon video They're kind of dancing in a barn Yeah Have you guys read This was, of course, this video was on very high rotation on MuchMusic.
Yeah.
The Harvest Moon video.
They're kind of dancing in a barn.
Yeah.
Have you guys read the lengthy Neil Young book, Shaky? Oh.
Have you read this?
No, I should.
No.
That's not Jim Hunt's book.
Oh, yeah.
The Great Toronto Suns.
Yeah.
And Jim Shaky Hunt used to be on the Fan 590.
Yeah.
No, I've been, it's like 900 pages, I think.
So it's huge.
I've been chipping away over the summer.
I think I'm at about 1995.
So I just remember reading the part.
Because, I mean, it's interesting.
This is all over MTV.
And then he goes on tour with Pearl Jam and Soundgarden.
Right.
And Blues Traveler, of all people.
But just what an artist.
Like, just album to album.
I mean, just switching up the song.
I mean, this is also sort of on the heels of
rockin' in the free world
and all that, like, kind of heavy, gnarly stuff, too.
Yeah, that was, like, late 80s, right?
Like, 89 or something.
Yeah.
On Freedom.
Remember the album Freedom?
Freedom, yes.
And then, you're right, this is, like, the next thing
before the Pearl Jam thing.
There was an album in between
called I think
A Ragged Glory
came out in between
that was sort of
Crazy Horse, right?
Yeah, which was getting
a bit back into
kind of the heavy rock.
American Dream.
Oh, yeah.
He's an American.
Yes, it's Crosby, Stills,
Nash, and Young.
Yeah, which is like
I used to see you
on every TV.
I love that song.
Steaming piece of shit.
I fucking hate it.
It's so bad.
I like it.
It's so bad.
I like that song
and I'll even like the video
you know who hates it
Neil Young
he hates that
I'm gonna actually
download that song
it's in the book
I'm there
you're drinking
that's the last hit
for Crosby, Stills and Marsh
it's about Dusty Rhodes
how could you
well baby
so the backing vocals
I just want to say
and this is a
significant fun fact
who do you think's doing
the backing vocals
it's Linda Ronstadt
and Emmylou Harris is it not I know it's I don't think it's Emmylou I think it doing the backing vocals? It's Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou Harris.
Is it not?
I don't think it's Emmylou.
I think it's Linda Ronstadt.
It's Linda Ronstadt, for sure.
And this song is a tribute to Neil Young's wife,
who has passed away, I believe.
Peggy Young.
His ex-wife.
Or are they just ex-wife?
Well, yeah, at the time they were married.
Daryl Hanna.
That's right.
Of course, he's married to Daryl Hanna now.
Is that true?
I didn't know that.
Well, I don't know if they're married, but they're...
Is that Stevie on the harmonica?
Steve Young?
Yeah, this is Steve Young from Brigham Young University.
That's right.
He's a Mormon, right?
Is he really?
I believe all Brigham Young people are Mormons.
Okay.
I feel like...
I was going to say that a lot of heavily successful, hugely successful, influential people in the
world of entertainment, Howard Stern comes to mind, David Letterman.
They love Neil Young.
That's their favorite.
Actually, Donald Trump liked Neil Young, too.
Like, he was at some...
Well, he keeps trying to play rock into the free world.
Yeah.
He keeps getting the cease and desist.
Yeah, like, there's...
I think there's video of him, like, backstage at Neil Young concerts.
Or there's comments from him at Neil Young concerts.
I can't picture him liking music.
I'll be very honest.
Like, I don't picture him liking anything that has to do with the arts well lee lee greenwood but uh
well not even he just likes the propaganda behind it who played at his inauguration oh was it uh
three doors down like they played oh kryptonite yeah yeah i think they played at the inauguration
that's right three doors down i think i can get them at tmlx five for fighting ted nugent yeah
five yeah we should do like a hockey jam.
We should do it for the start of the next season.
We should do a hockey jam.
Five for Fighting was Superman.
It's just a guy.
It's just a guy.
Five for Fighting, right?
We should do Superman songs.
There's so many good Superman songs.
You know what I think of?
Because that guy played, I think, at the 9-11 benefit concert.
I don't want to say right place, right time.
Well, Neil May have played too, but the Five for Fighting.
I feel like that song I always think about 9-11.
Yeah, I love that.
He had like two singles.
So you hate American Dream, but you love Five for Fighting.
Got it.
Correct.
You're wrong on both counts there.
Okay, so I've always loved Neil Young.
Back in the day when you guys could come into my house,
other than sneaking in the side door to go use the washroom,
I have a portrait of Neil Young hanging in the hallway.
Love that, man.
And that's a great jam.
So off to a roaring start.
Three for three.
And I'm actually, I think Cam's going to fully redeem himself of this pick.
Okay.
You ready, Stu?
Yes. You still have that harmonica. You ready, Stu? Yes.
You still have that harmonica handy?
Okay, here we go.
Oh, baby.
Oh, baby.
I picked this song
too.
Yes, you did.
Oh, song two. Yes, you did. Told you that he loved you I don't need to know this Need to know this
I don't wanna know this
Wanna know this
Tell me the words
They are with you
Tell me you care
Ironically signed by Neil Young.
That's right.
Hey, did this?
It just died.
I did it?
I'm sorry.
I thought the mic died.
Oh, maybe your headphones died.
Maybe my headphones.
Anyway, this is Hayden, the song, in September.
So this one's no doubt an autumn song.
It says September, right?
This is originally released in 1994.
Most people probably discover more like 95 because this was on his original cassette
which we had
we did
and then was the second
track on everything I
long for with the Bojana cover
that's right it's interesting
that like this is one of the more produced songs
of his and I kind of like it I wish he did
more stuff that was like
grungy feeling right DIY like it. I wish he did more stuff that was like... It's a grungy feeling, right?
Some of it is very DIY. It just sounds like he recorded
in his bathroom with a tape recorder, which he may have.
But there's a charm about Hayden's music.
Well, this is one of his big...
I was going to say, I always found it a little
confusing back in
94, 95. CFNY
would play the shit out of this song.
The shit out of this song.
But they would not really play bad as they seem. And much music played the shit out of this song. The shit out of this song. But they would not really play
bad as they seem. And much music played
the shit out of the bad as they seem.
I know there
was something that was a video for this song
and I primarily knew it
because around the same time
Trouble Charger put out
an EP called
Self Equals Title. This had like even
Grable and Morale. Yeah, and that video has Hayden in it.
Well, yeah, he's in the video, but
there's also a CD-ROM on the CD
and had a video for In September, plus
all this other stuff for like Head and Thresh Herman
and Polito. Amazing, amazing.
Anyway, we've mentioned this a lot of time. Hayden went to the same
high school as Stu and I.
Wow. I was trying to figure
out when he graduated. It said he graduated from
Ryerson in 1993 which would
have put him at Thornley in probably like 1990
so he might have graduated like a year before Stu
and I showed up in 1991
and fun fact from his
Wikipedia page his father Sherwin
Desser is a retired
U of T professor in
parasidiology I don't even know what that is I guess
the study of parasites and he's
currently a visual artist.
One other final comment, and
I think we've talked about this before. The video for
Bad As They Seem, which is not the
song we just heard, but was
shot around the corner from where
Stu Stone went to public school.
And also around the corner from where
Gian Gomeschi grew up and was also
under house arrest.
After his whole thing, he went to stay with his mom.
Right.
Where was the video shot?
It was,
it was like on a street down,
you know,
where like Skippy Fun Food.
Of course.
There was sort of a street.
I think it was like across the street from Henderson and down one of those
streets.
When COVID's,
when we get food fair,
when the pandemic's over,
can we rent up like a party bus and just do tours
of all the pandemic Friday references?
Here's where Sluggers
was. There's a whole thing
going on here.
I love that.
This is where Cam Gordon
met Elvis Stoico.
This is where Cam's mom keeps the Harold Ballard
portrait. There's a bunch of
Rush stuff in Thornhill 2 where they've recorded some of their lateard portrait. There's a bunch of Rush stuff in Thorne Hill 2,
where they've recorded some of their late 70s.
Is that in Lone Hill?
Ann Murray's house, yes.
A honk outside of Ann Murray's house.
Future FOTM Ann Murray.
Yes, yes.
Unbelievable.
Sharon Lois and Bram, we can show you where they used to play back in...
Doodoo the Clown?
We can take you to Doodoo the Clown.
Absolutely, yeah.
This is the Cable 10.
Was it Newtonbrook?
Where were you guys again?
Classic Home.
Yeah.
Classic Home. Was it? No, where? Oh, that was Newton Cable. Newton Cable 10. Was it Newtonbrook? Where were you guys again? Classic Home. Yeah. Or, yeah. Classic Home.
Was it?
No, where?
Overtime Sports.
Oh, that was Newton Cable.
Newton Cable.
Okay, so we'll sell tickets and everything as soon as this pandemic is done.
I love it.
25 bucks a head.
And that in September, Hayden Jam, always loved it, and I still enjoyed it in the headphones
here.
It slaps.
It's a great hit.
And that album, that Everything I Long For For which is when I learned about that song
it's really good
like you know
Billie Eilish is very popular
or might still be
probably is
she has a very soft spoken
type of
singing kind of thing
Hayden has a lot of songs
like that
he was ahead of his time
in the
he was just very like
delicate with
in some of his songs
he's just like
yeah like
yeah
skates for example, right?
Like...
That is not a short album, too.
He's sad, right?
He was sad at that time.
That album's sad.
I used to put it on
and go to sleep to it in high school.
I'd play that CD every night.
I think people said it was mopey.
I did, too.
It was very mopey.
I kind of dug the comfort
in being sad.
He was, I mean, classic.
It was a good era to be sad.
Honestly, we were really sad in the early 90s.
Kids think they're sad today.
They don't know how we had it.
We used to be sad.
By the way, did he ever respond to your tweet?
No, you know what?
If anyone out there,
this is a plea to the FOTMs listening,
if anyone has a connect with Hayden Desser,
you think he's too big to get on the mic?
No. Not too big to come on Toronto Mike? No.
He's just too big to
even talk about his music
career. I don't know if this is...
I got Craig Northey and Stephen Page
and all these people are bigger.
I'm not saying he's big. I'm saying he's just
private. Too private.
I'm trying to say something serious
here. I'm
100% serious. I think he has a kid
With like developmental challenges
That serenade
Yes about autism
I feel like maybe he just keeps a really low profile
Because of that too
And that's his right?
That's a huge assumption
I'm not trashing him
I just haven't had success
Getting to him to hear a yes or a no
I regret
that a few years ago
there was a show
at Massey Hall
I want to say
with Hayden
and possibly Our Lady Pease
that's the serenade
that's the dream
what's it called
I think dream serenade
yeah my friend Rosie
I would have loved
to have gone to that
because that's
that's sort of like
the prototype
for the event
that we should put on
maybe
with like Jim Cuddy
and Hayden
yeah I feel
I feel like Chris Murphy might have been.
The guys from The National.
You're right.
And Stu, when the pandemic's over, we can get serious about that.
We should throw that event.
Like the damn fourth musical.
I know the guys that own it.
We could probably do it there.
Well, yeah.
We'll get The Watchmen.
We'll get Lowest of the Low.
We'll get The Pursuit of Happiness.
The Doughboys.
This is going to be amazing.
You would seriously sell that place out if you could line up
four of those acts. I think it should just be called
the CanCon Festival.
I think it's going to be TMLX7.
You sound like the Watchmen can fill that
place too. You get the Watchmen plus a few
other bands. The Doughboys, Rusty,
Stay in the Room Only.
Molly Johnson, Gino.
Yeah, we'll talk. We will do this Cannon from February. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, we'll talk.
We will do this.
Hosted by us.
We need these things to look forward to.
We'll introduce the bands.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, oh my God.
So, oh yeah, just Stu mentioned it,
but I want to just confirm it because I'm the guy who knows all this stuff,
is that you both picked that Hayden Jam.
So that was...
Stu had it too, and I said...
That's a no-brainer.
I said, yeah.
And if cam hadn't
picked we all would have picked that song actually and this is another song i had this song i gave it
to stew because stew picked it and i want to pick something else but we both we both had this jam
right here which is such a hack choice but let's do it it's obvious but it's good
we're both looking at cam i I don't know what that is.
You don't know this one?
He will, he will.
Summer has come and passed.
It's too mainstream for Cam.
Good song.
I know it does.
Yeah, I like this song.
It's a good song.
Wake me up when September ends.
September ends.
Like my father's come to pass.
Seven years has gone so fast.
Wake me up when September ends.
Here comes the rain again Falling from the stars
Drenched in my pain again
Becoming who we are
As my memory rests Here it comes.
I guess not yet.
Almost.
Here are some drums.
Wake me up.
Wake me up when September ends.
We'll get to the, when it gets good, we'll turn it up.
Acoustic Ballad by Green Day.
Green Day, very popular band in the 90s,
very popular grunge act from the 90s.
Not a grunge act.
And, you know, listen,
these guys knew how to write hit songs,
that's for sure.
Catchy hit songs.
But there was a period of time
where they sort of like were kind of fading away
and almost gone from popular culture.
And this song brought them back from the dead.
It literally revitalized their entire existence.
And a brilliant album that a lot of people really love.
It's sort of like a rock opera of sorts.
This song particularly has nothing to do with the rest of the stories in the other songs.
But this was a very popular song.
They had a lot of success with another
ballad, Hope You Had the Time of Your
Life. So people weren't...
Which is actually called Good Riddance.
And I don't think that
this... So this is not such a shock
to hear them do this type of song, but musically
this is a real musically
different song than you're
used to from Green Day.
There's just a lot more production behind it and a lot more epicness to the production, I guess we should say.
It feels like what it became, which is part of a Broadway show.
There's American Idiot, the musical, which I saw in North York, by the way.
Really great song.
Wake Me Up When September Ends.
And it's written about his father who passed away.
And I guess, you know, listen, September's a shit month.
So it's kind of like a fitting kind of thing.
Wake Me Up When September Ends.
Is September a shit month?
Well, it usually is.
It's like you're going back to school and it's just like summer's over.
See, the reason I mean, I speak as a cyclist, I suppose,
but September is like one of my favorite cycling months because it's still warm.
Yeah.
For the non-cyclists.
It sucks for the rest of the people.
I like September.
I'm quite a big September fan.
It's like August 31st comes, I'm going to bed.
Wake me up when September ends.
Yeah.
Summer's over.
Someone didn't like school.
I feel like this was the fourth or fifth single from this album.
Can I tell you my memories?
I remember the first single being American Idiot.
Yeah.
Which I really do not like.
You know the one I liked, and I don't know if I still like it because I'd have to hear it again.
It's been a while.
But I liked Jesus of Suburbia.
Oh, yeah.
It felt like...
It reminded me a bit of Meat Loaf's Bad Out of Hell.
Yes.
That it was like five songs in one.
You know what I mean? Song cycle. Right. Whatever you in that it was like five songs in one. Song cycle.
Whatever you call it when there's five songs in one.
Boulevard of Broken Dreams?
That was on this. That was a good track.
That was the first song that sort of brought them back.
Yeah, because this is basically
from the album. It's called American Idiot.
It was a big comeback. Walk Alone.
I walk alone. That was the big one.
Before American Idiot, they'd have one hit off their album
and it would be something like,
remember Hitch and a Ride or something?
You're right, they were on the...
They were sort of on the down decline,
but this brought them back, this record.
So good for them.
And they've cemented themselves.
Listen, I've used the word cementing a few times now,
but as much as Slash cemented himself
as the guitarist of his generation,
this album cemented Green Day's legacy as more than just being
sort of a one-generation wonder.
It's multi-generational now.
It took them from doing the 2,000 clubs that could hold 2,000 people
to going to Molson Amphitheater and having 60,000.
Well, they were already doing that, believe me.
Before American Idiot?
Oh, for sure.
I saw them at fucking Arrow Hall. The Dookie album was massive. In Mississauga. Well, they were already doing that, believe me. Before American Idiot? Oh, for sure. I saw them at fucking Arrow Hall.
The Dookie album was massive.
In Mississauga.
Okay, Basket Case.
No, I think,
they were like the biggest
band in the world
for like two years.
Because I've seen Green Day
like five times
and now I'm thinking about it,
one time was at Arrow Hall
in Mississauga.
Yeah.
A pretty small venue.
What year was that?
The Phoenix.
What year was that?
This time you're talking about
when Hitchin arrived.
Oh, so during the decline.
But then when American Idiot breaks again, now they can headline Amphitheater and Air Canada Center.
Right.
But there was a period there where they were kind of.
Yeah.
Dark years.
Yeah.
Like 2000, 25.
I remember they would be on the Warped Tour in 2001 and they would not be headliner.
They're just, oh, we're going to sort of do that sort of fake, go back to our roots but it's really green day because although they do come up a lot but uh
not enough actually uh dookie fucking rock still put on dookie and you'll love every
also pronounced dookie but uh good fucking record isn't it like cookie how do you say cookie cookie
uh you know uh remember frookies i heard? I remember going to Lollapalooza
And blasting that album
Like that was our pump up
Driving to Lollapalooza song
Like
Do you have the time?
But the best one was
Bite my lip
Bang those my
Longview
Yeah yeah
It was about masturbation
These were really awesome songs
When I Come Around
Was the anthem from Woodstock Okay Yeah for our age And we're similar Longview was Longview, yeah, yeah. It was about masturbation. These were really awesome songs. When I Come Around was the anthem from Woodstock.
Yeah, for our age, and we're similar vintage,
Longview was like an anthem of sort of like that teenage...
It's awesome stuff.
Great grunge.
Also one of those albums you put on and it just starts,
it's like, I declare I don't care.
You know, like right away, just like right into it.
But when Dookie blew up,
didn't you go back and buy their old albums too?
Oh yeah, the 1000.
Those are good songs too. The 1000. Slappyokie blew up, didn't you go back and buy their old albums too? Oh yeah, the 1000.
Sloppy, smooth.
Kerplunk.
She, she lived in silence.
Those early albums were not great. I like them.
And then it's a Paradise one
called Welcome to Paradise.
And then they did that Woodstock. I would say that the Dookie album is
probably like a start to finish album that you could
listen to. And I used to play it a lot with the Offspring Smash.
Like those two kind of at the same time.
I was all by myself.
Oh.
Head and track.
One of the songs, one of the topics I put in that spreadsheet is swear jams.
And there's a jam on Smash that's all mine when we get to that.
Now I'm going to change it up a bit here.
So we played some pretty popular songs.
Everyone listening says, I know those five songs.
Sorry, can I just say one final thought
about The Offspring?
Go ahead.
I just remember being in a car
when I was in high school
and you know the opening for Self
seemed like,
like that came on
and my mom got like so pissed off.
She's like,
can you turn that off?
Kind of like you just yelled at me.
Isn't it a,
sort of,
time to relax.
Isn't it that guy
No it's like
I love self esteem
But I was a teenager
One of the intros to
Like
You know
I wasn't
I was a fan of that
Offspring album
I didn't like
The
Stuff that followed
As much
Oh yeah the pretty fly
For a white guy is awful
So there's like
One of the songs
Doesn't it start with Yes yes yes Which is also Pretty Fly for a White Guy is awful. So there's like one of the songs, doesn't it start with like,
which is also a deaf leopard also starts.
It's sampled by,
it's sampled.
I always hear that deaf leopard song.
I always hear that and I get excited
that it's going to be Rock of Ages
and instead it's Pretty Fly for a White Guy.
That's like when you think you're going to hear
David Bowie and Freddie Mercury
and then you hear Vanilla Ice.
Well, that's less disappointing.
I was going to say, without that track, we'd have no Malibu's Most Wanted.
Oh, my God.
And then there's no Stu Stone experience.
Oh, yeah.
You can tie a direct line.
All ties together.
Okay.
So, I just want to do a little speech here.
When we kicked out FOTM Jams, which was last week.
That was a great episode.
Great episode.
I enjoyed that.
Thank you for doing that.
I owe you one.
The critics loved it. People love it. Was there. Thank you for doing that. The critics loved it.
People love it.
Was there a lot of comments on that one?
It was beloved.
No one comments anymore on TorontoMic.com.
When I switched commenting systems,
Maybe you should switch back.
It's too late now.
That ship has sailed.
It's too late.
We shouted out a lot of great musicians on Toronto Mic
in that episode last week,
and we did not shout out somebody
who I had a great jam kicking with.
He's a wonderful musician but he's
not famous famous
but if you know great Toronto singer
songwriters you probably know him. Al Greco.
Sean.
Al's bringing his guitar to TMLX6.
I see Al has a podcast.
It's on Letter Kenny.
So shout out to Al Greco.
Sean William Clark. Sean William Clark.
Okay.
Sean William Clark came over a few years ago.
Wonderful singer-songwriter.
Stephen Stanley told me to put,
he said, you got to have this guy on.
And I said, I'd love to.
And we kicked out the jams.
But I played some Sean William Clark
and I played this song,
which was new at the time.
And I've loved it ever since.
So I'm going to play a song
you probably don't know.
And then I'm going to tell you a little more about it. At the end of the day
The sunlight is fading fast
We're on our way
Another damn tank of gas
Long empty roads
The tree lights play cold refrains
My passenger seat
Warm torn and coffee stains
Ooh
Ooh Might I suggest when you're driving,
when you're driving up north to look at the beautiful trees as the leaves change color in this autumn,
put on this song, which is called Autumn in New Brunswick.
It reminded me of Autumn in New Brunswick.
And sorry, this is Sean William Clark.
Sean William Clark.
And this was on his album.
I guess it's a few years old now, but it's called Topaz.
Sean William Clark, and this was on his album.
I guess it's a few years old now, but it's called Topaz.
And just let me read a little bit from Sean William Clark's website about Autumn in New Brunswick.
It's Sean's signature hypnotic and autobiographical lyrics
present the resting and calming points of the hectic nature of touring.
Feeling much like a road diary,
Autumn in New Brunswick is an emotional postcard to a friend
the song is serene and pastoral matching up as a perfect companion to the subject
clark shares a glimpse into his life on the road with olenka and autumn lovers and fittingly
adding the vocal prowess of olenka herself on harmonies if you hear the woman's voice that's
olenka not sweet olenka i was gonna say ice creamies. If you hear the woman's voice, that's Olenka. Not sweet Olenka.
I was going to say ice cream places.
You know,
the original sweet Olenka
is you can throw a rock
and hit it from here.
Very tasty.
Olenka lives in New Toronto.
Really?
Yeah.
There's a real Olenka?
There's a real Olenka.
Sorry, the one singing
or the ice cream?
No, the ice cream Olenka.
Okay, very good.
Not sure where
the singing Olenka is.
Yeah.
I dig this.
Good thoughts.
Yeah, thank you.
It's very different
than what we've listened to.
Very season change. Mellow. Yeah, thank you. It's very different than what we've listened to. Very seasons change.
Mellow.
So sink into your seat,
close your eyes,
and let the words paint the picture for you.
Sorry, what are you reading about?
This is like a lengthy description of this on his website?
Yeah, seanwilliamclark.com.
He actually wrote about this single,
and I read it there to you.
Okay, God bless.
Good job.
I like that, when you bring out your religious...
My Catholic upbringing.
Yeah, how's your Catholic Catholicism going?
I was raised Catholic, too.
I was a strict atheist household.
All right, good for you.
Stupid question, he's from New Brunswick originally?
Or he lives there now?
No, he lives here. He's a Toronto guy. And I guess He's from New Brunswick originally, or he lives there now or no,
he lives here.
He's a Toronto guy.
And,
uh, I guess he was touring New Brunswick and,
uh,
he wrote this,
uh,
this song.
Did you spend time in New Brunswick when you did your East coast road trip?
Oh yeah.
So I've never been there.
I've been to the East coast a few times,
but yeah,
there's a lot of,
you gotta be careful of the moose.
Uh,
I'm not kidding. Uh, been to the East Coast a few times. Yeah, there's a lot of, you got to be careful of the moose. I'm not kidding.
My friend's parents, no joke, my friend's parents died because they hit a moose in New Brunswick.
Wow.
This is a true story.
And I knew that.
I was very careful.
Was it in the autumn?
Probably.
But that road trip, we went through Quebec, obviously, and then New Brunswick.
And then we did the Cabot Trail in Nova Scotia.
And then we went to Prince Edward Island. Beautiful.
And then we made our way back but that
was exactly four
summers ago and
all six of us went because Morgan
was a newborn. Probably feels like four
centuries ago at this point. Four
scores.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Stu
lived in America for a long time.
He's recited this.
I lived in America.
I was going to say, Stu had nominal thoughts about Sean Williams.
Rocky IV.
I thought it was a nice song. I hadn't heard it before, so I was just listening.
Yeah, we didn't hear a song for the first time.
Hard for me to comment or, you know, jibber jabber when I don't know.
So it was a very nice song. Very well produced. Very nice.
And I agree, you know, if you're driving a car and you're in New Brunswick and it's fall, crank that jam.
That's your jam.
Yeah.
Autumn in New Brunswick.
So thank you, Sean William Clark.
I'm sorry I didn't mention him last week.
I will give two thumbs up to the guy.
He sounded great.
Better than I could do.
Yeah.
You know what song I almost chose?
You guys would have been pissed.
Weekend in New England by Barry Manilow You guys would have been pissed. Weekend in New England
by Barry Manilow.
We would have been so angry.
I feel like it talks about
we're driving and the leaves are changing.
Okay, that's cool. It's a better choice than your
expose.
Seasons change is not really about fall.
No, seasons changing.
That's more of a metaphor. She's talking about
seasons change, feelings change. No, she's changing. No, that's more of a metaphor. She's talking about like, listen, season's changing, feelings change.
No, she's being literal.
I don't think you're right.
What do you think?
It's like as if Mad World was about school or something.
Okay, you guys ready for...
You realize they played Epcot Center.
Are you ready?
The Autumn Pavilion.
Are you ready for Cam's third jam?
This is a banger.
So get Booshenna ready.
Here we go.
This better be some mob deep? This is a banger. Yes. So get Bojana ready. Here we go. This better be some mob deep.
Oh, okay.
I know this one.
This is good.
He's too on to this one, too.
Yeah.
Well, no.
Not really a fall song.
I'm going to say this one is a fall song.
He's gone till November.
He'll be back in November.
Well, Wake Me Up When September Ends.
He could write that in June.
Yeah, that's true.
He could wake me up like any time.
It could be like six months from now.
God bless you so.
I love you, girl.
Every time I make a run, girl, you turn around and cry.
It's like an alternate recording of it.
I feel like there's like two versions, like the symphonic version.
I got the YouTube link from Cam.
I just converted it.
It sounds like a different version.
So I'll be gone.
I think it's the version.
Said I'll be gone till November.
No, there's like an expansive production.
Probably for the music video, maybe they shook it up.
Maybe.
Yeah, it's definitely the video.
January, March, April, May. January, February.
Yeah, this is a weird version.
Way to go, Cam.
So this is Wyclef Jean.
His name?
Yeah, it's French because it's Haitian.
Yeah.
How would you say it?
Wyclef Jean.
Jean?
I'm very pretentious.
Wyclef Jean.
Yeah.
What was the guy he butchered the name of early on? Well, there's Mos Def and Jodeci.
Jodekai.
Jodeci.
I say, yeah.
You said Jodekai.
Wycliffe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Haitian number one language, I think, is French.
That's right.
Patois.
And then that's why you get the Louisiana hybrid thing with the...
Yeah, like the Cajun.
Right.
Cajun, it's all...
Which that comes from the Acadians,
which is New Brunswick, actually.
Yeah.
Right?
The French came from there.
Yeah.
So this, you know,
it's not quite November Rain
in terms of the symphonic arrangement,
but this is...
Oh, this version.
Nevertheless,
this is the New York Philharmonic Orchestra
you're hearing back at Y-Clip here.
Wow.
So this song actually came out in December,
just kind of half fall and half winter, 1997.
Song went to number seven in the US, a bit higher in Canada.
It was a top five hit, went to number four.
I remember it being a big hit.
I kind of forgot the video for this too, where Bob Dylan was in it for like two seconds.
It was a little unclear.
Apparently Destiny's Child are in the
video too. Yeah, I only remember Bob Dylan.
Put them on the map. That no, no, no when you say
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was Wyclef.
I totally like this song in general.
For whatever reason, I just can't forget about it.
It was kind of fun going back and
there's a lot of, oh yeah.
This is the album where you had that Stayin' Alive
remix or whatever. Remember?
That's right. Yeah.
The Carnival is a good album.
Yeah, The Carnival, that's it.
There was a period of time where Wyclef could do no wrong.
I mean, the Fugees album is a classic.
The score.
Yeah, and then this album, The Carnival,
was really, really great also.
And this came out shortly after the score.
The Fugees had such a short-lived career.
Just like Brando, even like Ghetto Superstar.
This was all within three or four years like all this stuff and then lauren hill of course
she exploded as well yeah she had that record a random monster album random wycliffe uh observation
here and this is just this was on my blog in one of the graphics i did why wycliffe actually played a private party for Canada Goose back in June 2018.
It's not even surprise.
It drops out.
But this was like he played at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, if you can believe it.
I believe it.
Private party with Wycliffe.
I believe that.
I'm sure he played this song.
I'd have Moe Berg at my party.
Yeah.
But that's a good song.
We like that song.
I think that Wycliffe is a guy that overachieved with what he had.
Like he's not the best rapper, but he's a hugely successful rapper.
He did the most of what he naturally talents.
He did the most, right.
He's not the best guitar player, but he really made a career for himself.
He's not the best singer, but he released lots of songs where he's singing.
And I think he's a visionary in a lot of ways in how hip-hop went from this sort of really raw and gritty thing,
which the Fugees had a lot of elements of that.
And he managed to sort of commercialize it in a way that still kept its cool for the most part.
So I'm going to give him a lot of credit.
I'm a huge underrated guy, Wyclef, in his contributions to music.
He just seems like a likable guy, like a good guy to hang out with.
I don't know.
Just, I don't know, a bit of everything.
I've had some encounters with Wyclef.
Really?
In my early days.
In your rap career?
Yeah, a very exciting guy to be around back then.
Oh, yeah.
Not too much one-on-one stuff, but I did go up on stage and rap out one of his shows
and do stuff like that.
This is amazing.
There you go.
This is what we're talking about.
But he was another who really knew how to throw,
you know, when you went to his show,
like 30 minutes of his set is him just playing
other people's records and getting the crowd hyped.
He's just a party guy.
He just drops that in there.
Like, oh yeah, he went on stage and rapped.
I did, that's true.
I forgot about that.
Did I mention Lois DeLoe played my event once?
I'm not saying,
like it wasn't like,
my mom told me to fuck off
because we played
Offspring in the car.
You know,
Gino Vanelli
just dropped my guitar
in my basement.
That's sick.
Is that close to?
Wyclef's never been to my house.
I need better stories.
But Gone Till November,
not my favorite song,
but it's a great song.
And I know a lot of people
who are listening will like it.
Most people like that song. It's a good song. I think it qual lot of people who are listening will like it. Most people like that song.
It's a good song.
I think it qualifies nicely.
Cam's first autumn jam.
But here's one we got to talk about, Cam.
I'll play it and then we'll debate whether this one qualifies.
You ready?
You ready?
Is this mine?
This is Stew Stone's third jam.
You're going to have to debate this?
Well, I got to remember the lyrics.
Maybe I'm missing part of it.
Maybe it's not debatable, but let's play it.
Let's play it.
Here we are anytime now i mean listen to the lyrics okay
by the way October skies
he's right
the leaves on the trees
are falling
yeah you know what
it's 100% Adam
I know
I forgot the lyrics
I'm sorry
you can't get this guy Cam
he's a
I was gonna say
he had Van Morrison
in the news today
did you see that
no
I'll let
bury the leaves
you can read the story
after I tee you up.
Let's hear it, Stu, because I don't know this story.
Well, this is a song called Moondance.
We've played it before, I think, in songs by people who are not American or something like that.
Somebody played this.
He's Irish.
Yeah, we found that out on the show.
But new tidbits coming here.
Wow.
New tidbits.
Shockingly, this song came out in 1970,
but was not released as a single until November 1977. Shockingly, this song came out in 1970,
but was not released as a single until November 1977.
I'm trying to find out if maybe someone who's listening can help.
I don't believe that could be possible.
Like, what do you mean it came out?
It came out on an album in 1970, but it was released as a single to... In America? Like, did it get a UK release?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I'm wondering, was the song in a movie
that it became popular? Was it on a TV show?
Was there something that sparked
this song to become a single
seven and a half years after it was
released? I feel like
it was in a movie. That sounds
familiar.
But a 77 movie?
I don't think it was in Star Wars.
It wasn't in Star Wars.
At the Cantina.
Yeah.
I think Van Morrison had a cameo there.
So, yeah, there's that.
And then also Van Morrison, Van the Man,
apparently when it comes to the COVID-19 virus,
is a bit of a prick.
And he is now releasing new music that is,
Campbell I'm sure will will uh let us know but anti-mask songs anti-lockdown songs he is against the shutdown
and thinks that the virus is a hoax of some kind i hate hearing this i heard something from uh the
guys from away so i was gonna say yeah noel gallagher isn't on like he's like fuck masks
but what's the point of van morrison's putting out new music for the first time
in years and one of the songs is literally titled
like, Don't Lock Us Down Again or
something like that. Yeah, there's a song called Born
to Be Free, his anti-mask
as I walked out and
the most literal. You talk about seasons
change being literal. This one really is
No More Lockdowns.
It's not quite Brown Eyed Girl, but
there you go. No More Lockdowns. No More Lockdowns. It's not quite Brown Eyed Girl, but there you go.
No More Lockdowns.
No more lockdowns,
wearing your mask.
I'm trying to find out
why the 1977 single release.
Like, what is the significance there?
Yeah, I'm trying to find that out.
I couldn't find any in my research.
Because it was reissued in 2013,
but that's a whole different time.
I'm thinking that there's some,
you know, music lovers that are listening
that can tell us the pop culture relevance.
Maybe Retro Ontario could dig it up.
But there's got to be a reason why a song that was first put out in 1970, like a fart in church,
all of a sudden became a big single seven and a half years later.
Something had to spark that.
Was it a Bohemian Rhapsody type of thing where it was in Wayne's World and all of a sudden it's back again?
But then if it was something like that
it would have made the wiki page
like that would be
it would get a line on the wiki page
and I couldn't find anything
in any of my other sort of
reasoning
I don't know how this blew up
so leave a comment please
and tell us the answer
maybe cause you know
and wear your fucking masks
yeah
are you wearing masks at TMLX?
I'm bringing my mask.
And again, I don't want to get all difficult here,
but I have, my rule is if I'm indoors in public space,
I always wear my mask.
Of course.
But I was doing that well before it was the law.
And when I'm outdoors, I try to keep, like right now, for example,
I'm not wearing a mask now because I can keep six feet from you guys.
Right.
So I have an outdoor, indoor rule. You'll be able to keep six feet from you guys. Right. So I have an outdoor-indoor rule.
You'll be able to keep six feet from Leva Famke?
Like what if she wants to give you a running hug?
Well, she's safety first.
We can't do that.
TMLX 7 hopefully is post-pandemic and we can hug the shit out of each other.
Orgasm booth.
Oh, here it is.
I think I found it here.
Oh, it says. What I I think I found it Here Wait oh
It says
What a lovely night
For a mask and
So fuck Van Morrison
I guess
I will say
I love his music
But he's long been
Sort of known as one
Of the kind of
Pricks of music
Like a Roger Waters type
Yeah he's been
But like worse, though.
But he was also a notorious alcoholic, right?
Who's better?
Van...
Who do you like better?
Big Van Vader.
Van Morrison.
Van Morrison or Van Halen?
Oh, they're both good artists.
Van Morrison or Van Damme?
Or Van Hammer.
Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Okay, so I think it has something to do
with the B-side of the single,
Cold Wind in August, because the B-side of the single Cold Wind in August
because the B-side of the single
in 1977 was...
No, no, no.
Cold Wind in August,
whatever that song was,
was the B-side for this song.
Right.
You're reading that wrong.
But in 1977,
yes, in Moondance.
So Moondance comes out in 77.
The B-side is Cold Wind in August,
but Cold Wind in August
is on the album
that was released in 1977,
a period of transition.
Yes, right.
So it's weird.
It's like he brought an old hit to sell the single.
It wasn't a hit in 70.
Not, okay.
Interesting.
We need to get some clarification on this.
But the album is called Moondance, is it not?
Yeah, the album wasn't a hit.
Okay.
Okay.
Chill.
He's angry.
Fucking assholes.
All right.
We haven't had...
I actually...
Bougie, you still there?
I just want to point something out, okay?
We have had three songs from Cam Gordon.
Someone laying underneath a ladder.
Might be her.
We've had three songs from Cam Gordon.
Two...
Sorry.
One of them is Canadian.
We've had three songs by Stu Stone.
None of them are Canadian.
I'm about to play my third song, and all three of mine mine are canadian wow this better be a tragically hip song it's not okay it's like billy talent or something yeah is it i can't believe i got that
kind of like them Is this like their most recent single?
No, it's from 06.
Is this a saga jam?
Yeah, it's streets, though.
I kind of like this one.
It's like Green Day-ish Yeah
I'm going to download some Billy Talent songs
Try Honesty man
That was a great
That was the first big
They were a big deal
Remember they played
They would headline New York Ancestors
I saw them headline an edge fest at Downsview Park.
And they were fantastic.
I saw them open for Guns N' Roses and they were good.
And they're named after Hardcore Logo's character, Billy Talent, who had two L's in talent.
That's right.
And that was the...
Callum Keith Remington.
Is it a cover song or is this an original?
No, it's an original.
This is an original song.
What's the name of this song, Mike?
Fallen Leaves.
Fallen Leaves.
Another fun fact, which I think we all know,
but the lead vocalist here, he's great,
is, I want to say the last name properly,
I've been practicing, Benjamin...
Kowal?
Kowal.
Kowalczyk.
Kowalczyk.
I fucked that up so bad.
Kowalczyk.
Polish. We'll just call it polish but sure
he worked of course famously i guess suppose he was working at cfny that's right yeah and there's
a huge kind of connection between cfny and billy talent and again you mentioned mississauga but
you know just like when you're from mimico you don't say oh i'm from toronto you say i'm from
mimico when you're from streetsville you don't say you oh, I'm from Toronto. You say, I'm from Mimico. When you're from Streetsville, you don't say you're from Mississauga.
You say you're from Streetsville.
Streetsville, that's a cool place to be from.
Like, I'm from Streetsville.
It sounds like I'm almost made up, kind of like the Sharks and the Jets
would be doing war, like knife fight there.
I'm with you.
I like to say I'm from...
Which is the song that's like, need more friends with wings.
Okay, let's do this.
Need more friends with wings. let's okay let's do this the uh oh yeah i remember that's billy talent yeah that is billy talent so here let me just tell you the
singles that you heard on uh with butterfly wings yeah that's right these are the songs you would
have heard on uh cf and y the first big one is called try honesty i know that one okay the x
i don't know that one nothing to lose iose, I think is what you're singing there.
Oh, Nothing to Lose.
Yeah, where's that?
That came out in 04.
How is that not considered like a star song?
I'm looking at their album here.
This was their second album.
Try Honesty, Line in the Galvan River Below.
Devil in a Midnight Mass.
That's on this album.
So this album is called Billy Talent 2.
That's how they were naming him for a bit there.
And Fallen Leaves and then Surrender. And then what? You called Billy Talent 2. That's how they were naming him for a bit there. And Fallen Leaves and then Surrender.
And then what?
You got Billy Talent 3.
You might remember Rusted from the Rain.
It was a big CFNY hit.
I remember St. Veronica, Devil on My Shoulder.
This was also a radio hit.
A lot of devil songs.
Yeah.
So, I mean, Viking Death March.
Just kidding.
They're great.
You should have them on the show.
I actually have had conversations with Ben about coming on,
and it is going to happen at some point.
It needs to happen.
They're great.
They're a really great band.
Can you say his last name for me?
Conor Walchuk.
Okay, thank you.
Why am I struggling so much with that?
If I can say Poluskiewicz, you think I could say Conor Walchuk?
Yeah.
Who's Steve Conor Walchuk?
I thought he was a hockey player.
Hockey player.
Toronto Maple Leafs.
No.
Was he?
Yeah.
What era? Steve Conor Walchuk? I thought he was a hockey player. Hockey player. Toronto Maple Leafs. No. Was he? Yeah. What era?
Steve Konowalczyk?
Possibly like a Chicago Blackhawk.
Aren't you thinking of Chris Costopoulos?
Also.
Steve Konowalczyk.
I feel like he was like Capitals or something.
Clark Griswold.
Oh, right.
Right, right, right, right.
So, yeah, that song.
Dale Howardchuck passed away.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's cancer.
That's terrible.
Wendell Clark.
He was great, yeah.
Konowalczyk, maybe a Buffalo Sabre? Steve Konowalczyk. That's terrible. Wendell Coyne. He was great, yeah. Conor Walchuk,
maybe a Buffalo Sabre.
Steve Conor Walchuk.
That Devil at a Midnight Mass was really good.
Now, I'm just thinking
about this album,
by the way,
Billy Talent 2,
which included Fall and Leave,
came out in June 2006.
So you're now going back
14 years,
if you can believe it,
for Fall and Leave.
But yeah,
they were hard.
I know you said Green Day, but they're actually harder than Green Day.
Well, you said that song had a Green Day vibe to it.
Yeah, it's true, that pop punk stuff.
Okay, yeah, Connor Walchuk was Capitals in Avalanche.
Is that on your phone?
Yeah, that's his phone.
Well done, Stuart.
Actually, I'm curious if Spotify has these new Van Morrison songs.
This is going to be like a new category.
Do we run these songs?
Do we not?
Like Van Morrison, a great legacy artist.
No, I think it's health and safety first.
You can't air these songs.
It could influence the stupid people.
There's a lot of stupid people, and we're learning.
There are lots of stupid people.
Mike, I hate to say you sort of touched on it.
I'm just curious how many more artists and just famous people and athletes
are going to have these opinions where, you know,
whether it's Noel Gallagher,
Van Morse,
or we're seeing it,
you know,
it's like a big voice on Twitter that Cam Gordon,
no Aubrey Huff.
Yeah.
He's a real piece of shit.
I heard he's a piece of shit.
Yeah.
Like it's,
it's,
you know,
all these people from our past are just like,
Curt Schilling was like one of the first guys where you're like,
cause you kind of liked him and root,
you know,
the blood on the sock and all this and then shut down the Jays.
Right.
Right.
Three world series.
We won that world series. Okay. So we're doing great guys Shut down the J's. We won that World Series.
We're doing great, guys.
Fall and Leaves. Great, great autumn jam.
Good pick.
Great category.
It's been going very well and there's some good jams to come.
I said it was like dog shit.
Dog shit category.
Put that on the list.
We'll do dog shit songs.
Well, there's the skinny pug.
Songs about shit.
Shit songs. I want to do the suicide song. list will be dog shit songs well there's the skinny dog shit yeah dookie shit songs shit songs
right after my i want to do suicide songs well there was a song by skinny puppy called dog shit
well i think chris shepard spun that one night yeah for sure noah is like a singer i think there
was a video for it a while okay so let's get to the fourth jam because i gotta get to tmlx6 at
some point even though i don't know what day this is this could be monday who knows but okay here we
go i gotta clip out these blank spots at the beginning remember i
love you oh this is like a different version but you sent me this link is it okay that's okay
i wish you didn't have to go now oh is this uh the leon from the leon's commercial
don't pay a cent to that.
I guess it's not.
Is it the right song?
Yeah, it was just a different intro.
Okay, do you know this?
You've never heard this?
Maybe I'll know when I hear the chorus.
I'm not sure if you will.
Okay, what year is it from?
Like 1940?
63?
It's from close.
August 1964.
Sounds like a 60s. Yeah, so this is the Shangri-Las.
Ah, yes.
It's just like Leader of the Pack.
Same band, different song.
Yeah, because it's the same voice.
Yeah.
Okay, here comes kind of the low chorus.
Maybe you'll recognize this.
Walking in the sand.
Walking in the sand.
Remember, I remember walking in the sand.
That's the song. Nothing? I don't know anything about leaves changing colors. It sounds really cool. I'm just trying to find the sand. Remember, I remember walking in the sand. What's the name of the song?
Nothing?
I know, it sounds really cool.
I'm just trying to find the autumn.
Yeah, let's listen.
Hold on.
The seagull is in here.
It's remembering like summer's gone by.
I remember walking in the sand.
This is the guy that came up with this topic.
I remember walking in the sand. This is the guy that came up with this topic.
Is there a line in this song that definitively states it's an autumn song?
What's the song called?
It's called Remember.
Exceedingly implied.
Okay, you know what?
This is as bad as the expose.
Oh, stop it.
Seriously, this guy picked the category. This is your topic, Cam. This is some Wendell Clark YouTube type, stop it. Seriously, these are two. This guy picked the category.
This is your topic, Cam.
This is some like Wendell Clark YouTube type shit right here.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
I stand by that.
What does this have to do with autumn?
It's a song of longing.
I remember walking in the sand.
I remember summer.
But what makes that autumn?
It's the sand between my fucking toes.
It could be winter.
It could be winter.
It's not spring and she's remembering.
Because she's taught.
You know what I'll say?
I hear seagulls. That's not I'll say? I hear seagulls.
That's not autumn.
Seagulls are summer.
She's remembering seagulls.
I told you it was a shit topic.
It's a good topic, but Cam's
mocking the system.
I was going to pick
See you in September.
Would have been a great choice.
That's a summer song.
See you in September. In have been a great choice. That's a summer song. No, see you in September.
See you in September.
Yeah, in the fall.
Currently it's summer, so I'll see you in September.
It's a fall song.
Oh my God, you guys are...
So tell us, why is this a fall song?
Other than her, she remembers sand between her toes.
That sounds like she's remembering summer, not fall.
It's a summer song.
She's remembering summer in the fall.
Okay, tell us your fun facts.
I want to know, like, Cam,
I think you've been waiting 27 weeks
for an excuse to play that song.
I love that song.
It's a great song.
I'm shocked you guys have never heard it.
You're trying to shoehorn it into this topic.
No, I'm not.
He picked this topic.
Like, I admit, there was a...
I would have done five songs about walking fucking sand
if I wanted to do that.
I would have said yes to that category.
Sandy Beach.
Pokemon, or Cowgirl in the Sand by Neil Young.
Oh my God, yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot.
I think he wrote that the same night he wrote Cinema Girl.
Actually, beach songs would be fun.
Yeah, beach songs would be great,
but you got to do that when summer's coming.
What was the name of that song?
That falls into...
Remember.
Although, remember I played Jane's Addiction up the beach
and Stu almost shanked me.
He was so upset.
I'm a little upset, too.
Oh, come on.
Stop it.
Two of your four songs are completely what I would call inconclusive.
Okay.
There's no evidence they're autumn songs.
Okay.
That's two out of four.
But the way you live your life, you're going to go youtube.com and find like pirated fan videos
and say oh it's a motion picture it's a film the cinema what the hell are you talking about
no fucking is he okay how many great lakes are you deep there okay i'm drinking coffee
anyway i don't see anything even on like you do you want some fun no but there's some very
you know played on the song?
Tell me.
Billy fucking Joel, okay?
Is that right? Now you've got my attention.
You guys aren't interested.
Billy Joel did play on the song. That's cool.
Do you want to talk about some Aerosmith covers? No, you guys aren't interested.
Mummikin, that was on Lies.
That was really interesting.
Do you want to talk about Dick Fox?
Do you know Dick Fox?
Richard Fox? I you know Dick Fox? Richard Fox.
I know Dick Cheese.
A man named...
The song was even released in December of that year.
Yeah, because she's in winter and she's thinking about summer.
You don't think about summer and fall.
You think about summer and winter when you're far removed.
Do you want to talk about Marianne Ganzer from the Shangri-Las?
Died of a heroin overdose
at age 69
at the age of 22.
Oh, no.
Like, the Shangri-Las,
they have a fascinating story.
Yeah.
You guys don't seem
at all interested
in this stuff.
No, I really like...
You know, I'm just going
to put my fun facts away.
Oh, no, I want to hear them.
They better be fun.
No, next song.
No, please.
You're being a baby.
He's being a bit of a son.
Just because I just
Googled the word autumn songs and I don't see that song. I do see Seasons Changed by Exposé, so you being a baby. He's being a bit of a son. Just because I just googled the word autumn songs and I don't
see that song. I do see
Seasons Changed by Exposé, so you get a credit
for that. Oh, he does? I do see
that, but I don't see this. I'd like to hear
some fun facts. The Billy Joel thing blows my mind.
I'll say this. I'm not going to be treated
like this. You're going
to redeem yourself with your fifth jam.
Billy Joel's a fun fact. Is there
another fun fact that's on that level?
I've already said too much.
Next song, Mike.
Is this a fall song?
Sure.
This is a fall jam.
Alright, everybody, get onto the
dance floor. Dinner's now
over. It's like Brian Masters
spinning the jambalaya. Come on in.
Stewart's Bar Mitzvah.
Do you remember? Now this is a remember song
August to September
21st day of September
yeah
and maybe you confused
your song with this song
no
I stand by my picks
I always do
he's gonna chase the clouds away
come on guys
let's crank it
it's a pop Stand by my picks. I always do. He's going to chase the clouds away. Come on, guys. Let's crank it.
It's a bop. In the key that souls are singing
As we dance in the night
Remember how the stars roll the night away
Stu's dancing on the table right now.
Get your drunk ass home I mean, this song really is much more of a clear, concise autumn song
they're remembering as well.
Sure.
But this time they're actually remembering the first day of fall.
Yeah, and also, you know, hanging at the beach, walking in the sand, but whatever.
This is indisputably an autumn jam.
in, but whatever.
This is indisputably a autumn jam.
Yeah.
Good choice. This song reached number one in the United States of America on the Billboard Hot R&B
Songs chart.
Number eight on the Billboard Hot 100.
Number three on the UK Singles chart.
September.
Earth, Wind, and Fucking Fire.
Big jam.
This is a big jam.
Written by vocalist Maurice White.
Passed away
a few years ago? A lot of people think of
the great Philip Bailey when they think
of vocals from Earth, Wind & Fire.
It's like an Easy Lover. Because he did the Easy
Lover song with
Billy Collins. But Maurice
White, come on man. There's a one-two punch
like a Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt
one-two punch.
One of the great hairlines.
Like Rico Kasich and
Ben Orr.
Peter Cetera and whoever else.
Eric Carman.
All by myself.
I got a funny song.
I got a fun fact on this one.
About Eric Carman?
No, about this song.
We just kicked him out with Bob Ouellette.
Bingo Bob Ouellette.
We kicked out that radio song.
Is he,
he's,
he's the Trump supporter?
Am I imagining that?
Oh, I don't know.
Or is that Peter Cetera?
Written by Al McKay,
Maurice Wright,
and Ali Willis.
Willis was initially
bothered by the gibberish
Badia lyric,
where it says,
Badia,
how did you remember?
Sorry,
define bothered.
That badia?
Yeah.
The badia.
Right, because it's gibberish, you're telling me.
He was bothered by the gibberish lyric that White used throughout the song
and begged him to rewrite it.
I said, quote,
What the fuck does badia mean?
And he essentially said, quote,
Who the fuck cares?
End quote.
I learned my greatest lesson
ever in songwriting
from him that day,
which was never to let a lyric
get in the way of the groove.
Oh my God.
The song was included
in the band's first compilation,
Earth, Wind & Fire.
Good lesson.
Weston Power.
But yeah,
fucking great band.
Great song.
Love the band.
Love the song.
Do we know,
because there was something called Earth, Wind & Fire that tours.
Like, is this like two original members?
Yeah, there's a lot of, and also one of my buddies is the guitar player in the band.
You would recognize him as the only white guy on the stage.
Wow.
His name is Serge.
He's a fantastic guitar player.
Serge Aboska.
He plays with them.
It's his birthday today.
Oh, the chef.
Philip Bailey's son is in the band now now and there's the original bass players there.
Yeah.
They're there.
It's really awesome.
The music is incredible.
Love it.
Can you name the biggest
Earth, Wind & Fire
hit?
Probably
You're a Shining Star.
Correct.
That is it.
Because a lot of people
think it might be in September.
Let's Groove
is a great song as well.
And After the Love is Gone
went to number two.
Written by Let's Groove number two. David Foster.. And After the Love is Gone went to number two. Written by David Foster.
CanCon.
That's like an 80s song, right?
Great song, though.
And the last song they had to chart...
Boogie Wonderland?
No, they had a song in 1993 called Sunday Morning
that hit number 53 on the US Hot 100.
If Casey Kasem isn't going to say your name, forget about it.
It never happened here.
Good jam.
Are you guys ready for my fourth jam?
Yes.
Is this another Canadian jam?
Irish.
This is U2?
Correct.
See, I told you it's a shit category.
I thought this was an instrumental song
because it's like no singing comes in
for like three minutes.
Gives me an opportunity to say this song is called
October.
And it's from the album of the same name.
1981's
October.
And this song, as you'll hear, is a different sounding U2 song.
It's almost instrumental, as Stu mentioned there. This was also a hidden track on the Best Of 1980-1990 compilation that U2 put out.
80 to 1990 compilation that U2 put out.
October reflects the spiritual turmoil of the band at the time.
It was written during which three of the band members were wrestling with weather. Oh, I like wrestling.
Being members of a rock band was consisting of their Christian beliefs.
This is what Bono said of October.
October, it's an image.
I won't do his accent.
That was pretty good.
We've been through the 60s,
a time when things
were in full bloom.
Does he mention
the Shangri-Las?
We had fridges and cars.
We sent people to the moon.
Was he walking in the sand?
And everybody thought
how great mankind was.
And now as we go through
the 70s and 80s,
it's a colder time of the year.
It's after the harvest.
Talk about gibberish.
Trees are stripped bare.
You can see
things and we finally
realize that maybe we aren't so
smart after all.
Now there's millions of
unemployed people.
Now we use the technology we've been blessed with
to build bombs for war machines
to build rockets, whatever.
So October is an ominous word.
What a buzzkill.
Sorry, he said this when he
wrote the song? Yeah, he said this
of the song. Okay.
Anyway, I feel like shit
looks like this.
Like we just heard the earth, wind, and fire.
Now we're going to slit our wrists.
We're bopping.
Right.
Short song, heavy song.
It's over, man.
October.
He's so disappointed.
That was a hidden track on which album?
On the best of 1980 to 1990.
Remember they did the best of 80 to 90 and the 90 to 2000 or whatever?
So that was a hidden track on the best of 80 to 90. the 90 to 2000 or whatever? So that was a hidden track on the best of
89. And that was on the album
the 1981 album October.
Better than anything on Zoropa.
Disco Tech.
Who's the guy who loved Disco Tech? David Alter.
That's right. One of his
favorite songs of all time is
U2's Disco Tech. Happy New Year David.
Shannatova.
Former Twitter canon. I said Shannatova. Yes. Former Twitter canon.
I said Shannatova to Ralph Ben-Murgy yesterday,
to Mark Hebbshire this morning,
and Dana Levinson this morning.
And Stu Stone.
And Stu Stone.
So that's four.
That Shane Rilez song was not a false song.
And it does feel like...
It does feel like what?
You picked this category,
just like when you picked the category
so you could play the Winter Games song,
which actually that one was great.
But the Shady Moon Less song is a spooky song
and that chorus should be sampled by like
Tyler the Creator or something. Probably has.
But I don't see how that's an autumn song.
It's a matter of opinion.
We agree to disagree.
Do you think that it's an autumn song for real?
Yeah, straight up.
I feel like it is and maybe I'm wrong.
But why do you think it is?
It's a song of remembrance of summer times. Yeah, straight up. I feel like it is, and maybe I'm wrong. But why do you think it is? Why?
It's a song of remembrance of summer times.
Okay.
And that's autumn to you.
But what does autumn have to do with that?
I'm saying, in my opinion, that's when people do that.
Summer's now over.
I remember walking.
She's talking about her lover, like, leaving town.
It's more of a wintertime thing to think about summer.
We agree to disagree
but you're going to
redeem yourself now
with your final selection
I think Stu's going to
eat this too
okay
here we go
do you know this song?
not by title
is this your number one choice?
they're not right
I don't like how they
they're misspelling a word
in the title
it's upsetting me over here
yeah it's a little frustrating
here we go. Here we go. touched. I love you, well, never mind. I've been
crying all the time.
December boys
got it bad.
December boys
got it bad. December boys?
September. Oh, December
boys?
So this is
September Girls
by the Dirty Nill.
Now, do you guys know the Dirty Nil?
I feel like they're on like Indie 88 and stuff.
I feel like Dave Hodge was trying to turn me
on to the Dirty Nil.
They're sort of in the
ilk with like that band Pup.
Like some of these more sort of contemporary
Canadian guitar
acts you hear on Indie 88
and Edge 102.
Is this a current song?
Yeah, I mean this was like from a couple of years ago.
This is a cover of the song September Girls by the band Big Star.
Oh, yeah, David Chilton.
Yeah, Alex Chilton.
Alex Chilton, right.
That seems like a Dave Hodge band.
Right.
Yeah, from the Box Tops or something.
That's right.
He sang The letter most famously
when he's like 12 years old right um so dirty nil are a band out of hamilton so again get played a
lot on the radio they seem to be pretty popular i feel like they're you know like the ark hills
yeah hamilton's bright lights yeah um so yeah so they put a bunch of stuff on spotify a bunch of
covers including this song.
This song, the original by Big Star
is from like early 70s or so.
Wow.
And Big Star are a band that like influenced
kind of R.E.M. and stuff, like power pop.
And expensive jeans.
Jordache, is that expensive?
Exhaust.
Yes, yes.
But do we know that Big's a big September Girls?
Like this is one.
Big Star, their most famous song is probably the song that was the theme song for that 70s show.
Oh, yeah.
Which was covered, I think like was the Cheap Trick version of that song.
Cheap Trick did cover, yeah, right.
Out in the street, in the street, out in the street.
Hanging out.
Yeah, so that was Big Star.
But yeah, I mean, Alex Chilton, most famous for The Letter.
Yeah, anyway, short, low brisk cover. But yeah, I mean, Alex Chilton, most famous for the letter. Um,
yeah.
Anyway, short,
low brisk cover.
September girls.
Great song.
Thought I'd mix it up.
Important though,
for people who are Googling it,
girls is spelled G U R L S.
And Cam scored a whopping 40% on this category.
Okay.
Well,
two out of five.
Was this an autumn song?
I guess.
I guess.
Definitely an autumn song. And, uh, three out of five. Was this an autumn song? I guess. I guess. Definitely an autumn song.
And three out of five.
Five for five.
No, I'm giving him Hayden and Wyclef, and that's it.
You're not giving him September Girls?
I guess so.
How could you not give him September Girls?
Because it could be early September.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
See, the Earth, Wind, and Fire song specifically says the 21st of September.
They're actually referring to fall.
This song is September 1st.
But then how do we give you Green Day? Oh, because it ends. Waste me up all. They're actually referring to fall. This song is September 1st. How do we give you green days?
Oh, because it ends in its fall.
You're right.
Again, to your point, how do you know it's not
any time after September?
Well, it could be, but I think there's a lot more of a compelling argument
to be made. And speaking of which...
I think there's a fucking compelling argument.
Seasons change. Talk about her lover.
That's awful.
Have you seen the video? She's got a about her lover. That's awful. Have you seen the video?
She's got a fucking sweater on.
She's chilly.
Oh my God.
You guys are...
I think this is a good topic because of the debate.
I'm going to recant.
I'm going to go lie under the fucking ladder.
I'm going to recant.
He's going to jump off the ladder.
He's giving you expose.
I'm giving you expose just based on the sweater being worn in the video.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Remember Marin Cadell, the sweater?
Yeah.
Is that an autumn song?
Sweater Weezers?
She transitioned.
She's a living, she's a man.
Yeah.
He's a man.
Sorry.
He's a man.
Yeah.
Careful.
Now, let's talk about.
I was thinking 1993, Maren.
Would Weezer, the sweater song.
Cam has had a song.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was going to pick that song.
We should do sweater songs.
Sweater songs.
We're missing the obvious. Sweater Weather by pick that song. We should do sweater songs. Sweater songs. We're missing the obvious.
There's Sweater Weather by The Neighborhood.
Oh, and Jack Johnson.
Doesn't he have a sweater song?
Better When We're Together Wearing a Sweater.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
Richard, what's his name?
Dreyfus.
No, he has like Sweat Into the Oldies.
Richard Simmons.
Richard Simmons.
Dick Simmons.
Yeah.
Cam has, one of Cam's troublesome songs was a song that was about reflecting on a season
that wasn't autumn.
It was about summer.
So this next song.
I feel like Stu's just doing schtick and he's going to like fucking frustrate us here.
No, no.
This next song is really...
It's a song we've heard before.
We heard a different version.
So this song first appeared
on the Songs We Didn't Know Were Covers
episode, I believe.
And the cover version...
Now, I can't wait to play this
because I've got a challenge.
I feel like we're getting set up here.
You ready for a big one?
Because it may seem obvious,
but then I'm going to point out
another fact about this.
No, I understand that they say
it's on a winter's day,
but they're reminiscing
the same way as Cam is about leaves
turn, all the leaves. Spoiler.
Go ahead and listen. Okay.
A winter's day. Yeah,
I got that. Okay.
Just checking. I'm okay with that.
Are you? I'm not.
The leaves being brown
and the sky is
gray. In California, leaves turn brown in winter
No they're off the tree
I live there
I have no idea
So this guy's going for a walk on a winter's day in New York
Reminiscing about autumn in California
Oh my god
Are you fucking
If I was in LA
Read the fucking Wikipedia
I did
I'd rather not.
On such a winter's day.
Winter's day.
This.
Yeah.
Awful fucking song.
Yeah.
It's a great song.
Honestly, it's a great song.
I mean, listen, I thought all the leaves are brown and the skies are great.
That's what made it an autumn song to me.
And it's obviously.
It's problematic
but less problematic than the Shangri-Las
I would say. I've swallowed a lot of
shit on this episode.
This man, and I use that term
lightly
because this is not the choice of a real
man. Honestly, you're insulting Mike
because Mike chose this song and I
actually swapped him nearly, I actually
swapped Harvest Moon Neil Young which I had for this song. I swapped actually swapped him. I actually swapped Harvest Moon Neil Young, which I had for this song.
I swapped it with him.
Can you show?
Wow.
So are you insulting me or Mike?
Okay.
Your hero, Mike.
He picked this song.
Your hero.
That swaps the pod.
The pod god.
This man is not my hero, for one thing.
Let's be clear about that.
This is Mike's choice, not Stu.
Mike. Okay. We swapped. I had Harvest clear about that. Not Stu. Mike.
We swapped. I had Harvest Moon,
Neil Young, we traded.
We did a swap. We did a trade.
I got Neil Young in exchange for Moms and Poppins. And direct your anger at him.
All the leaves are brown
and the sky is green.
And then Mike has the audacity to turn around and try to question it on me
when he picked the song.
This is typical Mike.
Typical Mike. Yeah.
Typical Mike.
There's no other season where all the leaves are brown.
But you were just trying to question me for this selection.
It's your selection, you son of a bitch.
Like literally on a winter's day.
That's what I'm saying.
He sounds like he's doing the suicidal tendencies institutionalized when he did that yelling rant.
It was right on.
I think he seriously
can't hear.
All I want is Pepsi.
All I want is a Pepsi.
California Dreaming
a song written
by John Phillips
and Michelle Phillips
was recorded
the best known version
by the Mamas and Papas.
That's the one
we're listening to.
The original version
is the one we listened
to previously.
Right.
Interesting stuff
that I want to say.
Okay, I'm going to save Mike.
That is a classic legendary jam.
I'm going to save this episode right now.
Peter Gross loves it.
I'm going to save Mike's reputation for picking that song.
Loves the ponies too.
You can follow what I'm saying?
I'm going to save Mike's reputation.
I'm going to save your anger for that song.
And I'm going to save the day right now with a mind blow.
Okay. Now we know that this song, the Mamas in the Pops version is a cover of a song that they wrote. We've been through that.
This song has been covered over a hundred times
by bands like R.E.M.
That was just one I could think of off the top of my head if you've heard of them.
But California Dreamin' is a very it's a very recorded song it's an iconic song
it's an iconic song
yeah
and one of the covers
that you probably
haven't heard before
oh
I would like to play
and have Cam
try to figure out
who the artist is
oh yeah I like this
I like this
that is covering the song
and I think
that might be a future topic
like can you guess
who's covering the song
or whatever
but this is gonna save
the episode
I like this game
I like this game
song went to number one by the way who's covering the song or whatever, but this is going to save the episode. I like this game.
Song went to number one, by the way.
All the leaves are brown And the sky is gray
I've been for a while
On a winter's day
I'd be safe in the fall Song charted in Germany.
Yeah, the song was number one in Germany.
Oh.
Is this David Hasselhoff?
It is.
Okay, very good.
But it didn't really go to number one.
No, very good.
I was going to say, it's very schmaltzy.
1993, David Hasselhoff, star of Knight Rider, Baywatch, SpongeBob the movie.
Viral videos, drunkenly eating cheeseburgers.
In 1993, he released the single Pingu Dance based on the children's show Pingu.
In 1994, he was scheduled to perform a concert.
Are you guys ready for this?
Including this song, California Dreamin'. on a pay-per-view from Atlantic
City.
The concert was expected to help his singing career in the United States.
They were predicting to make millions of dollars in European orders on this David Hasselhoff
singing pay-per-view special.
Guess what happened on the same night?
Wait, wait, wait.
What year are we in?
1993.
The night of the pay-per-view.
Give me a moment.
Everything's going well.
Until everyone changes the channel because OJ Simpson.
But that, was that 93?
Yes.
Was that like 95 or something?
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
The pay-per-view was in 94.
In 93 he released the album.
Right, because they did that 30 for 30 about the day of the OJ thing.
In 1994 he was scheduled, as I said, to perform a concert on pay-per-view.
A lot was happening that night, as we know.
Well, we know that David Hasselhoff's pay-per-view took a deep shit that night.
I'm sure it would have been massively successful.
Viewership of the concert was significantly lower as a result,
and eventually Hasselhoff lost $1.5 million.
Wow.
Hasselhoff joked that 90 million people watched OJ
and three people watched me, including my mom and my dad.
Here's his version of California Dreamin',
not an autumn song, a winter song that was picked by Mike.
Laptop close.
He's done, like dinner.
You can totally hear it's Hasselhoff.
Yeah.
I mean, this sounds like it would be on a CD you buy at like Dollarama,
just like famous re-recorded versions of famous songs by just like session musicians.
Like what's the point?
Like what a pointless cover.
It's been covered so many times.
What's the point of anything, really?
Okay, good.
That's deep bro.
Why are we bothered?
That was junk
but that was fun.
Stu's already
started the car
so.
I saved the day guys.
Come on.
Let me close this out
with one of my
favorite autumn.
Is this a
tragically hip song?
Oh.
Nope. Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like the White Stripes are coming.
It's like the White Stripes.
Jack White wrote this song.
He's, of course, the vocalist, the guitarist.
This is from the very successful White Blood Cells.
White Blood Cells, of course, had a bunch of big hits,
including a song I played with and for Colin DeMello last week.
Or was that this week?
Oh, my God, that was this week.
So Colin DeMello came over to kick out the jams,
and one of his jams was, of course,
Fell in Love with a girl from this album.
So this is Dead Leaves on the Dirty Ground.
Great album.
This is, you know, great album.
The same person that worked with the White Stripes on their marketing and their digital marketing,
one of their sort of A&Rs at the time is the same lady that signed
Jamie Kenney and Stewstone.
So we were label mates with the White Stripes
for a couple years.
Never met them, but definitely worked with the same team
that they worked with.
That's unbelievable.
Michael, almost all your choices had to do with leaves.
You had dead leaves on there, you had fallen leaves.
Yeah, like all the leaves are brown
or down or whatever the fuck.
I also had Harvest Moon and October and Autumn in New York.
I think two of my songs are about leaves.
By the way, one of your songs was about sand.
Mike, unrelated, what's with the caulking gun?
Like you have a caulking gun sitting on you.
You know how your dryer has to have a vent to escape the home and blow the hot air out?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Our thing that covers that broke.
So Monica and I tag-teamed this project where we...
Tag-teamed it with some caulking.
Right.
So you have to remove the old caulking,
and then you have to kind of place it and do the whole thing,
and then you have to re-caulk it.
So rain and...
So you're saying you caulk it, then re-caulk it.
Right.
So there was a lot of...
You got to caulk it.
You got to-cock it. Right. So there was a lot of You gotta cock it before you cock it.
Are you going to bring
that cock to
the TMLX?
But there was
Monique and I
did a lot of cocking
this week.
You know the kids
are back in school now
so she's working
from home.
That might be a new one
on the way.
You keep shooting
that cock gun.
She has a couple months
left because my appointment
my vasectomy
is December 17th. You better doectomy, is December 17th.
You better do some cocking.
December 17th.
We need a theme that week.
Live on pay-per-view.
Songs about balls.
Like scissors.
Like the Scissor Sisters.
Songs about parents.
Oh, parenting.
Yeah, actually, that'd be good.
Vasectomy songs.
Yeah, Scissor Sisters is a good example.
Although, do you know what that...
Well...
Yeah, I do.
I do.
You know who else knows?
Bojaja knows. It's Bojana.
There's the band Tribe 8, too.
Do you know, like, they were, like, how the...
Tattoo. Tattoo. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. This is a
slippery slope.
Guys, thanks so much for being here.
I know Stu's got religious
things to do. Happy New Year, guys.
I'm going to give a shout-out to you, And Cam has no good excuse for skipping TMLX6.
I'm waiting calls.
It's disheartening.
Like, I'm sad.
I don't know what else to say.
I'm just straight up sad.
Tim Richards.
And that.
What is this?
723?
Yeah, what is it?
This is a fall song.
Everything is rosy and gray.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
But there's a smell of snow.
I feel like it's a winter song.
But we can talk about that next week.
And that brings us to the end of our 723rd show.
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Yeah, we sure will.
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Yeah, the wind
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