Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - BROS: Toronto Mike'd #906
Episode Date: August 25, 2021Mike chats with Ewan and Shamus Currie from The Sheepdogs about BROS, their smooth side project. They also kick out the jams and it's fantastic....
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and joining me this week
are the Sheepdogs,
Ewan and Seamus Curry,
also known as
Bros.
Yeah.
And there's an exclamation mark on Bros.
No.
No.
It's all caps though.
Okay.
Yeah. That's why I had to shout it It's all caps though. Okay. Yeah.
That's why I had to shout it.
That's the caveat.
Okay.
Okay.
I had it like in my mind,
it was stylized all caps with an exclamation mark at the end,
but it's not that aggressive.
That's very like early 2000s indie band,
like the exclamation.
Good to see you guys.
Is it hot enough for you?
That's your first question of the day.
Yes.
Yes, it is.
Toronto is stinking hot as we speak right now.
And Seamus, you were telling me a few minutes ago,
they said this is the hottest day of the year.
I'm a humidex.
I think it's supposed to go up to 44 today.
That's why.
It's not going to be 44 back here.
We're going to claim some lake effect.
And on that note, even before we get into it,
I know you've been dying to crack open a fresh craft beer from Great Lakes.
Oh, yeah.
And I made you wait because, Seamus, I wanted it to be cracked open on the microphone.
We should synchronize our cracks.
Can we get a countdown?
All right.
Three, two, one.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, good.
Fresh from the brewery.
And I do want to show, while you enjoy, so you're drinking the lager,
and you've got the pale ale.
That's the Canuck.
There you go.
All right.
So you've got a few in front of you, but if you do run out,
just touch your nose, and I'll disappear and see if I can find some more for you.
I'm going to crack mine open now, too.
Let's do it.
Hot day, August.
Yeah, we actually made a video a couple weeks ago,
and it was as hot as this, if not hotter, I want to say.
I don't want to go against the weather Canada people.
Environment Canada.
But it was like 80-plus percent humidity,
and we made a video that's actually coming out right away
where Shamus and I are wearing three-piece suits
like with top hats and tails.
Oh, my God.
Like circa 1911.
Yeah.
And you were like drenched, I guess.
Oh my, it was, I felt bad for the costume rental people.
Yeah.
And they're like, you just keep it.
There've been some funky suits upon return.
That's for sure.
Now for astute listeners will know,
this is actually not Ewan's debut,
but because Ewan was on episode 860,
860, you were joined by Ryan
from the Sheepdogs.
And we basically,
that was like your Sheepdogs ep.
And we talked about,
let me read what I wrote at the time.
Your Saskatoon origin story.
Yeah.
Getting on the cover of Rolling Stone.
I bet you haven't talked about that before.
A couple times.
That's an exclusive, everybody.
Yeah, I don't know how you got that one
I don't know
Feeling good
And their new infectious jam
Keep on loving you
And we went for about an hour
Because I was told that's all I had
Like that was like someone said you have an hour
And we made it work
Because you guys were doing a lot of press that day
We were yeah
I mean we probably could have made it longer
But that's you know probably Warner made that happen.
I don't know.
But I'm just so excited that you two are here.
And you're not just like the Ramones where they pretend to be brothers.
Like, you're really brothers.
Yeah.
That is correct.
He's Dee Dee and I'm...
Joey?
Yeah, sure.
We actually were brothers,
but we took different names to give ourselves stage name.
No, that's not true.
And you're from Dublin, right?
Seamus and Ewan.
Well, Ewan's from Edinburgh, but I'm from Dublin.
Honestly, I can't wait to get into it.
We're going to talk bros, and we're actually going to kick out the jams as well.
So this is going to be awesome.
But right off the top, I need to do this because this is the last episode I'm going to record before TMLX 8.
And I just want people to know, including you two, if you're around Friday from 6 to 9 p.m.,
we have an event on the patio of Great Lakes Beer.
And Great Lakes, they'll buy you your first pour of Fresh Craft Beer.
But this is awesome.
Palma Pasta is going to feed you.
So you just have to show up.
No price.
It's a free event.
You show up.
You get fed.
You get a drink and you
have to you know witness us record the uh pandemic friday finale stew stone cam gordon and i but
there's a fourth mic and you could jump on there and just say hi so this invitation i extended to
you too and anyone listening uh friday 6 to 9 p.m lovely lovely We won't be there unfortunately but we're
filming a kids TV show
that day.
What show?
As we do every Friday.
You're on the Wiggles
finally.
Oh my god if we could
get that Wiggles audience
man.
Well Splashin' Boots
could happen you know
they're kind of like our
Wiggles.
I met yeah we think we
met them.
They clean up at the
Junos every year.
Yeah I know they do.
They do well.
I heard some wild
stories. No. Let's hear we uh we're doing like a show called backyard beats that we did it before
and uh it's like you know of course we've never heard of it because we don't have kids but then
friends who have kids will send us a photo of their kid watching us and that's not the that's
not the cartoon with the beatles songs in it is it? I feel like they have no idea.
It's another one.
Okay.
And where is this?
Is it like a CBC show?
Is it a tree house?
Like you have any idea?
Okay.
But we got to look for this.
We got to hunt this down and check out.
I'd Google it.
You know,
it's on there.
Yeah.
I think it's like the host builds an instrument and like teaches a kid to
play it.
And then we come on a jam with them or something,
but yeah,
it should be fun.
It's the kind of thing where they like,
they take anything that's like slightly suggestive and they sheen it over
so that it can't be taken.
I don't think they have a Great Lakes sponsorship
is what we're trying to say.
It's for the parents
because when you're kids watching shows like that,
you need to have a drink or two.
Well, I'll tell you,
the reputation of children's performers is kind of that.
Like, they're like, they get down.
You're talking about Fred Penner.
Fred Penner is cool.
He's cool.
I mean, I think the reputation
of even like the Wiggles and stuff
is that they like,
if you think about it,
they do two shows a day
and they're done by 6 p.m.
What you want to do,
I had Dude the Clown on recently
and he said
he was so concerned with people like telling stories out of school or whatever he hired like
a security person to like come to this party because he would host these big parties just to
like i don't know to make sure that nothing gets out of hand because it can destroy your career
you know you gotta be careful if your child's entertaining shout out to raffy by the way i know
i'm a great deal older than you too but Raffy was my guy when I was
growing up. I had all the Raffy albums
and he was my children's entertainer of choice.
I'm sure Raffy got down to you, man.
Isn't he from the 60s and 70s?
He was like a hippie dude. I bet you
for sure. Oh yeah, for sure.
So we're going to kick out jams
that you guys have chosen and I can't wait
because they're so damn cool, but
I'm going to actually play a couple of bro songs first.
But first I'm going to play a bro song just to be difficult.
Here's a bro's song.
Oh.
Just to be difficult.
I think I know where this is going. When will I, will I be famous?
Seamus, do you know what I'm playing here?
We sound great on this one, eh?
A little different style here.
The bras.
Ewan knew where I was going right away.
He could smell that one coming from a mile away.
So when you chose your name, though, did you know about these bros,
or did that not matter to you because you're different bros,
different time, different style?
I'm just curious how that works.
I've never heard of them, actually.
I mean, when we chose bros, right away we Googled it, of course,
and found that there was this band.
Right.
But they hadn't done anything in like 20-plus years.
They had become actors, and so we felt that it was fairly safe.
I mean, the Sheepdogs, early in our career, we changed our name as well.
So I was pretty sensitive to the potential for having to change a name.
Remind me the original name of the Sheepdogs?
The Breaks.
The Breaks.
And there was a bunch of similar names.
Oh, the Ampersands way back in the day.
Yeah, I was very sure.
But so we were pretty sure that we'd be okay.
And then I think like two weeks before our album came out,
they announced their reunion tour.
But my friend in London
sent me a photo of a billboard
announcing their concert at the O2 Arena
and they used our photo.
Is that right?
Yeah.
That's amazing.
Somebody went to Google Images
and stuck in Bro's band.
And they're pretty...
They have a very extreme look.
Yeah, they look like models.
They're very put together.
So I'm old enough that I remember this.
And it was a really, it was a flash in the pan.
Like it was a short period of time with the bros stuff.
And it wasn't that big on this side of the pond, to be honest.
You knew it was happening.
But they were a big deal in Europe, especially the UK.
But, and so that's wild to see you guys.
You look like you're, you look rather different than the other bros.
But I was curious if it mattered that there was another bros,
but apparently it doesn't matter.
I think there's like the occasional, you know,
person Googling one band or the other who would be a little like off-put,
but I think when you dig a little deeper than the surface level glands,
you can tell there's pretty different entities going on here.
Do you guys, like, do the other bros, do they have the exclamation mark?
Maybe that's where I'm getting this exclamation mark.
I've got to dig into it.
Okay, so let's bring down the other bros because we're going to play you guys,
you bros.
And you are really bros, which I think is kind of key here.
But tell me, like, what came first, the sheepdogs or bros?
Well, we've been brothers longer than the Sheepdogs but Bros started up in about 2014 ish uh we were just Seamus and I both moved to Toronto that year I know this is a Toronto
focused podcast so we came from Saskatoon and we moved out here and we had just we had just finished making a new
sheepdogs record and then there was like this dormant period where like i don't know why but
it seems like it drives me nuts how like rap they'll just like drop an album right away
it seems so awesome to me but in rock they're like okay we're gonna take six months to fire
up all these things and right so we were like at this downtime and so shamus and i
we just started working on music together we had a buddy had a like a little uh like backyard sort
of setup that we were using to kind of screw around with music and then we just like started
going to work in studios downtime i think that's a gand Downtime. Anyway, it's 90s old rock. Yeah, I know Judd from the band.
Yeah, well, I share First Day of Spring
every First Day of Spring,
appropriately enough.
Here's a jam I think
particularly listeners of CBC Radio
and a certain show on that
are going to know this song,
so I'm going to play this
and then we're going to go back
and then we're going to get to
some current stuff.
I feel like I should talk over it.
Today I'm joined by Seamus.
There you go.
Get in the spirit of it.
Get your Tom Power on.
Powers.
Shout out to Tom Power.
Is it Power or Power? It's Power singular.
Is it?
I always screw it up. Sorry, Tom. My high school was called Tom Power. Okay. Is it Power or Power? It's Power singular. Is it? Yeah. I always screw it up.
Sorry, Tom.
My high school was called Michael Power.
Any relation?
With those priests, those Brazilian, you never know with those guys.
You never know here.
Okay, but this is the right bros.
This is you guys.
And this became like the song, the cue song.
So tell me, and this is your first,
this is earlier stuff from you guys.
But tell me a little, like firstly,
how does this song become the Q song?
They just did a call for, they're looking for a new song.
I mean, you know.
They were rebranding, I guess.
Yeah, they pretty famously changed hosts a couple times.
I think they had to do some rebranding.
I'm surprised they didn't change the name, to be honest.
Well, I think it was Amperson.
Amperson.
Right.
I mean, even with the sort of shameful exit of the initial host,
it was still a very popular show.
And then I guess they tried out Shad for a while,
and then they moved on from him.
So they needed a new theme.
They were actually looking at a different one of our songs initially,
but it was called Booger Sugar,
and somebody, I guess, explained what that was slang for.
Right.
And so they switched gears, but it's been good
because there's a certain type of person that, like,
will have no idea who me or Seamus is,
but if we say that we did the Q theme, then they know.
You're right.
There's a certain person that would mean a lot.
And I mean,
I've listened to my fair share of Q,
and I don't think I knew,
for the longest time,
I did not know this was you guys.
I don't think I connected those dots
for the longest time.
Yeah, they chopped it up pretty good.
Yeah, it's much more of an instrumental.
But it's funky as hell.
And this is a style.
Actually, you know what?
A lot of this will come out when we kick out the jams.
So here, let me just play something more recent,
and then we're going to get to these jams
before you guys sweat away on me here.
Let's...
It sort of was the first Big Bros song
that kind of kicked off the whole project in a lot of ways.
Here we go.
Is this yacht rock?
I think you could throw it in that idiom.
That keyboard tone is very yacht rock.
Yeah, it's a Rhodes with a phaser on it.
Michael McDonald, eat your heart out.
I'm listening for Michael McDonald.
He's in there somewhere.
Steve Lukather,
a guest on this show.
Oh man, I wish.
You're never gonna stop
when they keep on
calling it off, yeah.
You're never gonna stop
when,
when they keep on calling it off, yeah You're never gonna stop when Whether you keep on rocking it off Woo! I fucking dig it, honestly.
You're right, it would fit right in.
I mean, you're right, I think I made the point first.
But I was right.
This fits right in with your yacht rock mix.
I mean, it's just right in there.
It's just so smooth.
It's just, and it's awesome.
So this is the, tell me about the new album,
and then we're going to kick out jams.
And I think through that process,
we'll learn more about like your inspirations and influences
and all that good stuff.
Sure.
Well, I think it goes back to downtime.
The nature of the Bros project is kind of we work on it
whenever we're not doing cheap dog stuff.
We're off tour.
We got a bit of time to spare. Usually ewan will book a studio day here and there over the span of it
was about three years that we were working on volume two right and we would just yeah we would
just chip away at these songs you know whoever had the hot idea at the time we'd follow up on that
we'd take turns bringing in songs in and and we tried to play all the instruments ourselves. If we couldn't play something, we'd bring in a hired gun.
But it was sort of a vanity project that we get to chip away at.
Who's this right here I'm hearing?
That's you, Jay.
That's me.
Wow.
You're a talented mofo.
Get out of here.
I had a girl ask me, who makes our beats?
I said, it's us playing instruments.
It's just like we have a world interest.
We're old school like that.
A lot of kinds of music.
They think you bought this bundle of beats or whatever.
Yeah, from Reason or whatever it is.
Well, the Toronto Mike theme was built on that.
It's all like it's done, right?
Ill Vi bought some beats.
And you put down some rhymes.
And next thing you know, you got a song. But you guys can't get old school here this funk is amazing
so never gonna stop man yeah the whole thing is great so you're calling it volume two
yeah we just we called the first one volume one because we just i don't know it it's pretty
diverse music it's sort of like we kind of wanted to give the hint that this was going to be an ongoing project.
We also are big fans of Led Zeppelin and Chicago.
Remember the horn band?
And they just numbered their records.
That's true.
That is true.
Lazy.
And then there's Leonard Part 6.
Bill Cosby.
That's right.
Oh, yeah, we're not supposed to talk about him.
But, yeah, the movie still exists.
That's right. Don't look for the not supposed to talk about him. But yeah, the movie still exists. That's right.
Don't look for the first five volumes.
You'll be very frustrated.
Okay, so lately I've been listening to Ongoing History of New Music.
They like to talk a lot about, in fact, I think they recycle this material every six months,
but they like to talk a lot about the Gallagher brothers having this big feud in Oasis.
Are you guys on the other end of the spectrum?
Where are you guys at in terms of how you get along?
There's a bit of feuding.
I feel like with the Gallaghers,
they realized very quickly on that that was a bit
that they could do maybe.
You think so?
Because they've sold me.
Not now.
I'm so gullible though.
They're going to reunite for a gazillion dollar tour
at some point, I'm sure.
But I don't know.
We get along pretty well. We'll argue
in the studio, but
usually can resolve it.
It doesn't really extend beyond the studio.
We argue outside. We spend a lot of time together
because we're in the Sheepdogs together as well.
Sure.
It's just part of the deal, but brothers argue.
No doubt.
By the way, are there any upcoming gigs
for the Sheepdogs that you can
shout out? Not in
Ontario. Well, no.
We're playing in Vancouver
in the Malkin Bowl. We're playing in
Truro. Come to Truro.
I've been to Truro. I had a guest
I'm trying to jog my memory. Oh, yes.
AJ Andrews was on the show
and she's from Truro,
as is Arash Madani.
Oh, yeah. And
Jonathan Torrens. Oh, yeah.
We knew about that one, yeah. Okay, you knew about that one.
The Trailer Park Boys connection and everything.
Our good friend
Matt Dunlap, who does the artwork
for Sheepdogs and Bros, he is
from Truro, originally. I had a great
slice of pizza in Truro.
It was called the Farm Pizza, I think it was called.
All right.
If anyone in Truro.
Shout out Farm Pizza.
So you're playing Truro?
Is that what I heard?
I think it's a festival.
Yeah.
I mean, it's crazy.
Usually you know what's going to happen with your summer well in advance in this year.
Just all these last minute festivals, outdoor stuff popping up,
but we just played in Winnipeg inside,
uh,
the Burton Cummings theater.
By any chance,
were the Watchmen involved in this festival or is that a different?
No,
they were,
we played with them the night before.
Okay.
That's where I'm okay.
Okay.
Okay.
They're good friends with the show,
but,
uh,
cool.
Okay.
So we're going to,
again,
I'm excited to kick out these jams you guys have
picked because i really like as i listened to them last night uh there's a you know a certain
vibe and then you can hear bros like it's uh totally i can't wait to hear you guys speak to
these things so we're going to but i randomly decided that seamus will go first by the way
who's the older brother me that would be you yes. So we're going to do the youngster first,
Seamus.
But by the way,
I love the name Seamus.
Thank you.
I just think it's a cool name.
I'll tell my mom that when I see her later today.
Really?
So does your mom live in Toronto?
No,
but she's here visiting right now.
Okay.
Yeah.
A little family connection.
Yeah.
Any chance if this goes well,
you'll say,
hey mom,
if you got an hour or so,
you might want to listen to us kicking out the jam.
Oh,
she 100% will be listening to this.
Okay, so what's her name?
I want to say hello to her.
Lynn.
Lynn.
Okay, shout out to Lynn.
There you go.
Glad you're listening.
We're going to hear your voice.
You're a good man, Mike.
And I'm glad you guys are Blue Jays fans.
Absolutely.
You came separately and each had on a...
Is that the real deal?
Is that the original logo?
Yeah.
Seamus, I'm talking to you.
This is actually Ewan's old hat, but I've worn it more.
I've worn it all over the world.
I wore it when I was a short order cook in Saskatoon.
It's seen a lot of action.
I'm going to wear it to the game tomorrow.
Oh, awesome. That's awesome.
Without further ado,
here is... Let me make sure I'm organized here.
Okay. I believe this will I'm organized here. Okay.
I believe this will be Seamus' first jam.
I'll look you in the eyes as I play it
because you'll let me know right away
if I screwed this up.
Okay, I will.
If I got this right,
they're all going to be right.
It was all done in a very big rush,
but here we go.
Oh, yeah.
Lush.
It's very lush.
I was about to say that. He's back together again Yeah, everyone is glad that he's together again
Just like the old days, old days, old days
He could sing, he could sing, he could sing
He's back together again
You know he's still got the moves, you know the groove's still there
Just like
The old days, old days, old days
Yeah, he could sing, he could sing
Oh, listen to him sing, yeah
Back together again, back together again Singing the same old story You know what's awesome, Seamus?
I'm listening to this jam, Back Together Again by Hall & Oates,
and it's just lightly raining on me.
Like, yeah, there's precipitation as we speak.
I've got you guys covered here.
They put up the tarp just for you guys.
But I get a little bit in the back here, and it actually feels really good.
Refreshing.
Much like this jam.
Much like this jam.
So tell us, why did you choose Back Together Again by Hall & Oates?
Well, Hall & Oates are a bit of a template for the bros band.
Two dudes singing in harmony.
They're not brothers, but they definitely
have a bit of a brotherly vibe between the two of them.
Also, just guys
who unabashedly loved soul music.
You know, Philly
in the 70s.
You know, we loved
this kind of two-man approach to soul
and funky, feel-good jams.
My buddy, Stu Stone,
who will be co-hosting the Pandemic Friday finale
on Friday at Great Lakes from 6 to 9 p.m.
Stu Stone loves Yacht Rock passionately.
We did a whole episode about Yacht Rock.
Is Hall & Oates Yacht Rock?
Yeah, I think so.
I think you could slip them in there.
They could definitely straddle the border.
We prefer the term smooth music.
You know, because we actually jokingly refer to ourselves as, like,
the blue-collar Hall & Oates.
Like, we don't own any yachts.
Right.
But, yeah, I mean, it's sort of a malign genre a little bit.
You know, like, I always hated the phrase guilty pleasure or like,
because like what's wrong with music that just feels and sounds good?
Right.
Like Steely Dan, right?
You hear a Steely Dan song.
I love Steely Dan.
Yeah.
You dig the vibe.
It might not be like, you might not tell your buddies like, hey, you love Steely Dan.
I'll tell my buddies I love Steely Dan.
Right.
It's like thinking man's rock, you know?
Without a doubt. And it sounds, again, sounds lush, I think, my buddies I love Steely Dan. Right. It's like thinking man's rock, you know? Without a doubt.
And it sounds,
again,
it sounds lush,
I think,
is a term I heard from you.
Yes,
absolutely.
And the song has a real
comeback feel to it again,
the back together again.
Triumphant.
Coming back,
you know?
And it's not overplayed.
Like,
this is not a Hall & Oates song
you hear,
you know,
you hear a lot of Hall & Oates songs.
It's not Rich Girl.
Right,
right,
yeah.
But there's a lot of Hall & Oates
you might hear,
and this is not one of them.
Really, it's kind of like,
it's still maybe underappreciated.
Absolutely.
And another thing I want to say is
it's nice to hear Oates sing the lead.
Okay, okay.
Do you ever get to sing the lead?
Oh, yeah.
I do.
And as a fellow mustachioed man
in a two-piece outfit,
I got a lot of love for Oates.
Are you the Oates of bros?
Sure.
Does that mean I wrote She's Gone?
Sure.
I can't sing as high as Daryl Hall, though.
On to Ewan's first jam here.
They're all good here, actually.
Let's get in there.
Oh, yeah.
A fine pick.
Fine pick.
Oh, yeah.
Comment on each other's picks as well.
You dig it, you don't dig it.
This is definitely an 8.5 out of 10, I would say.
Because you don't know each other's picks, which is cool.
All right.
All right.
Hey, baby. It's your time now
Hey baby
You made it somehow
Don't let nobody
Come and bring you down
Hey baby You got a wanna run Come and bring you down. Hey, baby.
You got a more than a run.
You know.
You got a more than a run.
I know you.
You have just begun.
When you came into my life
Hey, baby.
JJ K.
Oh, yeah.
Nice.
Why this jam, Ewan?
Well, I love...
JJ's one of my dudes.
He...
You know, when you get your, like,
Spotify and year-end wrap-up,
I think three years in a row,
he was my most listened-to artist.
Wow.
And it's like,
it's very relaxing.
Like, the older I get,
the more I want to listen to smooth music.
And that's not really
explicitly Yacht Rock,
but it's like,
it's just very chill.
Like, I like to sit in my yard
and barbecue.
And it's kind of like,
almost like Jimmy Buffett
meets Tom Waits,
this song.
It's kind of like,
which is a bizarre combination, but this is my Jimmy Buffett. Tom Waits this song. It's kind of like, which is a bizarre combination,
but this is my Jimmy Buffett.
He's super chill.
Instantly relaxing.
Yeah, he takes it easy.
And it's not like a very overt
margarita-like type of taking it easy.
It's like a real,
I just take my time
and I play how I feel.
He definitely sings like he's expending
zero energy.
But it's very nice, relaxed delivery.
Also, master of textures, all the little percussive sounds slip in there.
Yeah, he's tasty as can be.
Very well-constructed beat.
I will say in the headphones right now at this very moment
where it's nice and hot, but there's a little bit of rain and we're drinking our fresh craft beer from Great Lakes
it's sounding pretty damn perfect well done well done
I steal too
If you guys were going to send somebody to a website to get some bros...
To get some bros?
Phrasing, Michael, phrasing.
Come again?
What, to get like a vinyl?
Yeah, exactly.
Where would you direct?
I think we're on the Dinalone store.
Yeah, we're on Dinalone Records,
Toronto label.
You can get all your bros merchandise,
Dinalone Records.
We have comic books and all kinds of stuff.
We made a bros comic book this year.
And did you guys draw that yourself?
No.
How talented are you exactly?
I'm pretty good at stick figures, but that's about it.
Yeah, we got a buddy from LA to do it.
It's cool.
It tells the bro's origin story.
Oh, I dig it.
So it goes back to, you're running that back to Saskatoon.
Exactly.
Okay, cool.
And speaking of Saskatoon, before we kick out the second jam from Seamus,
which Seamus, I liked so much and I wasn't familiar with it,
believe it or not, but I liked it so much,
I literally put it in the back of something I was recording this morning
because I totally am digging it.
Before I get there, though,
what were the jams you guys would hear in the house growing up?
What kind of music did you have surrounding you?
I remember hearing a lot of the Stevie Wonder Musicquarium
Greatest Hits record that our old man would play.
Could be worse, man. That's good.
He had this Chicago mixtape that he would play a lot.
Our dad was a composer, so growing up he was very much into the world of classical music,
but he loved Chicago because they had horns and stuff like that.
He was a trombone player when he was a young man.
Frank Sinatra.
A lot of Sinatra.
He did a lot of 50s recordings with the big Nelson Riddle arrangements
that are like the legendary ones, but they just sound huge.
Even like Crete on the rock side, we'd listen to Credence.
Yeah.
We'd listen to the Bee Gees.
Our parents really liked the Carpenters and like Seals and Caroths,
and like, you know,
very smooth.
They definitely like to keep it smooth.
Yeah.
Um,
so.
Doobie Brothers.
Yeah.
The Mike McDonald era.
Oh man.
There's,
that's the,
like that,
that is the yacht rock song.
Is that the Doobie bounce?
Yeah,
very much so.
Yeah.
Fool,
what a fool believes.
Great jam.
Absolutely.
Oh man.
Although neither are kicking it out,
but we're going to get something great
that'll maybe make you think of a hip-hop jam,
but we'll get there in a moment.
Here is the second jam from Seamus.
Oh, yes.
Honestly.
Just hook that to my veins.
Holy moly.
So Ewan's going to be mad Because I picked this version of this song
We love
There's so many good versions of this song
It's gonna be a whole debate
I'm taking care of business
Woman can't you see
I can think of two better versions
I gotta make it for you
And I've got to make it for me This is the smoothest one though This is the most like I can think of two better versions.
This is the smoothest one, though.
This is the most erudite, sophisticated one.
The piano.
Who is this guy?
Can I say it? Can I give it away?
Sure, you can.
This is the main ingredient.
Cuba Gooding Sr., I believe, on the lead vocal.
Fun fact. Love it. Also, if we can listen to it
there's a great skit in this song
after the second chorus
which is my favorite part of this whole song
Just tell me when to turn it back up
This is a hot topic for us because we love
the Isley's, Isley Bros I think did the original version
of this song and we love the average white band
version of this song which is we love the average white band version of this song.
Which is a little faster and maybe a little cokier, but pretty amazing as well.
I can totally hear the inspiration for Bros.
I hear it all over your jams. It's wild.
Absolutely.
We love...
There's no finer music in the world Than soul music
That's the best music ever made
It feels
It's just like a combination of like
Oh here's the skit
Hello
It's me baby
When you coming home?
Well I ain't tonight
But why?
Baby why?
Because you know I gotta stay out here
Take care of the business of work
But I had something good for you tonight baby
I know I know it, man.
He's got work to do.
We need the rent, too.
Oh, baby, but why?
Oh, I love it.
That is too good to be true.
Where has this been hiding all my life?
Oh, the old-time theatrics and their voices.
It's like a radio play.
It's amazing. Oh, my God god this telephone man holy smokes uh but that's that's yeah you know
she needs she needs some loving but they also need to pay the rent like there's a whole story there
i love it she's got to get used to him coming home a little late yeah relatable also no better
song to start your day too then i got work to Got Work To Do. This will get you out the door and hustling.
Again, on high rotation in my household since I discovered it thanks to you sticking it on the list.
Fucking love it.
You're welcome, bud.
Also, a lot of great other versions to check out.
I'm going to check them all out.
It's great.
Yeah, The Average White Band doing awesome.
They're white guys from Scotland.
They do...
Dynamite version.
So good.
You want to pick up the pieces of that song?
I think so.
Cut the cake.
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
That was a big jam.
Sure.
They do that.
The funkiest white guys probably ever.
Yeah, they're awesome.
Speaking of average white band,
ignore the wasps if they're bugging you.
That's all right.
What an Anglo-Saxon Protestant.
See what I did there.
Okay.
They are like around, but they're lazy sons of guns.
Like they're not going to.
Yes, they're very punch drunk at this point.
Yeah, they're not well.
So they're not going to sting you, I don't think.
Although if they are, I'm not responsible.
Sign the waiver before you get it back here.
Wow.
Okay.
You and Second Jam.
Yeah.
Forgot what I put.
Let's get to it.
Oh, hell yeah.
Track one of her first record. Listen to my bluebird man
She can't tell you why
Deep within her heart you see
She knows when we cry
What you're like
There she sits
A lofty bird
Strange as color blue
Like it's forgotten now She thinks only of you Strange is color blue. I guess we'll cut it now.
She thinks I'm never you.
Woo!
Just you.
Ooh, I get chills when she gets a high note every time.
Get all those blues.
Must be a thousand hues.
And each is differently used
You just know
You see them as the prize
By the depth of her eyes
If you get her to fly
She got soul
She got soul
She got soul
Wow Hold on Wow.
Hold on.
I was bringing it down, but not yet.
I'll sing on this part.
Honestly, guys, I've done this jam kicking,
I think 90 times now, maybe more.
And it's almost like I know I'm going to 90 times now, maybe more and it's almost like
I know I'm going to get a Springsteen song
and it's almost like I can like
It is such a pleasure
to get a bunch of jams
that haven't been overplayed
to death. There's no
taking care of business from BTO on your jam list
You know what I mean?
This is honestly refreshing. What are we listening to here?
This is Bonnie Raitt, the great Bonnie Raitt, and it's Bluebird,
which is, again, another cover that there are many versions of,
but this is the best one.
This is the first song on her first record.
Wow.
I think she's like 21, and it's like with one of these stories
where they went and recorded it in a room, just her and all our musicians,
and she is still so talented.
Everybody wanted to play with her.
And she's really criminally underrated, I would say.
She's such a fantastic singer and guitar player.
I don't even know young Bonnie Raitt.
I only discover Bonnie Raitt when she has her big hits
in whatever that was, early 90s.
Yeah, let's give her something to talk about.
Yeah, which is a good song. But she has that sweetness hits in like whatever that was, early 90s. Yeah, let's give her something to talk about. Yeah, which is a good song.
But she has that sweetness but also can rock.
She's sweeter than Janis Joplin could ever be.
She's smoother than Joni Mitchell and more like fun.
And just she's like the ultimate.
I mean, she's one of the great rockers ever.
She's a hero to me, I think, just how cool she is, too.
Soulful.
Yeah, amazing voice.
And a ripping slide player, too.
Yeah, great player.
Now, speaking of Bluebird,
do either of you think that the Blue Jays will play in the postseason this year?
Not looking good.
Not so good, Al. It's been a real nosedive in the lastseason this year. Not looking good. Not so good, Al.
It's been a real nosedive in the last few weeks here.
Even Vlad, he's like kind of flirting with 300 now, isn't he?
He's kind of like.
Yeah, he's been rough since the All-Star break.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah, we're going to the game tomorrow with our mom.
But, yeah, it was like after that.
What, that first.
There was a 9-2 homestand.
There was a 9-2 homestand. When they came back home, everyone was like after that. 9-2? It was a 9-2 homestand. It was a 9-2 homestand.
When they came back home, everyone was like,
feels a little bit like 2015.
And now it kind of feels more like 2017.
Springer's back in the IL.
Right.
Yeah, he was on fire too.
But yeah, it's not looking good.
And the East, as usual, is just a glut of excellent teams.
So, you know, it's tough. This is supposed to be a down year for the Red Sox, is just a glut of excellent teams.
It's tough.
This is supposed to be a down year for the Red Sox and they're as good as ever.
The Rays are always good.
I couldn't name the Rays starting nine and then the best team
in the majors, basically.
The mathematicians out there
will tell you that your chances
are getting slimmer
all the time, but something like
15% or something like that.
We should switch to the National League
and we might get in there.
But a damn fun team.
A hell of a team to root for.
But, you know,
because I enjoy regular season
Toronto Maple Leaf action.
I think that's a fun team.
And then the playoffs hit and it's whatever.
I feel like we've got to see what happens.
Next year is the year, I think, for the Blue Jays.
They really do need to make some noise in the postseason,
next season, I think.
They get that bullpen shored up a little bit there.
Let's see.
At least Rodgers has spent some bucks on this team.
You mentioned Springer.
He wasn't in the bargain bin.
That was real money.
That's for sure.
There's an attempt there.
Let's see how they do next year.
We're kicking out Seamus'
third jam. You ready, buddy?
Yeah, let's do it.
Oh, yeah.
A sentimental favorite.
I love this one.
And I love sentimental favorites. Na na na na na na na na I'll be living on a plane tomorrow I'm going back and why I go I just don't know
You know my memories of her they are many I've got to see that girl I just don't know. If she will bring me sorrow, I've got to see that girl. Girl from the mountain, I'm begging you remember me please.
Girl from the mountain, where are you? Are you gonna set my soul free?
Okay, I'm familiar with the Ghetto Boys, but not the Ghetto Brothers here.
This is Girl from the Mountain.
And again, sounds great, but I don't know if I've ever heard this before.
You should have picked the Ghetto Boys.
Ghetto Boys do have
a great song
that samples
a Donny Hathaway jam,
but it's pretty raw stuff.
Anyway,
the Ghetto Brothers,
I didn't really know
about them
until they came up
on like a Spotify playlist
that I was checking out.
And then I did some reading
because I thought
this song immediately hit me.
It's got this wonderful
nostalgic feel to it.
They were a gang
from New York. They were like a Puerto Rican street gang feel to it they were a gang from new york they were like a
puerto rican street gang but they also were a band but they were like were apparently like this
gang that was kind of celebrated in new york for being like you know they treated their female
members well and they were for social justice and they had a band they're a good gang yeah they're
one of the good gangs i don't know if you're like if you're like me i grew up watching a movie called
the warriors that i was very obsessed with. Yes, yes.
Which really kind of like made the idea of being in a New York gang seem very glamorous.
But when I was reading about these ghetto brothers, it seemed cool that they were a gang.
They had a band.
I like that they're kind of like, they have this sort of like, you know, like macho energy to them.
But they still like, you know, they sing in harmony.
They're kind of out of tune at times but it very much sounds like you know
hanging with the boys hanging like traveling around like acting tough but also trying to
write the coolest song you can which is very much sort of what the idea of being in a band is like
you know you're traveling around with your boys you know you're you're getting into trouble but
you've got each other's backs but you also love to sing in harmony sometimes and like rock rock
stuff like doo-wop groups, man.
Exactly, yeah.
But I particularly like this song because it sounds like a song I would have written
when I was a young guy just learning how to play guitar.
Like the chord moves and even the way this guy plays his crazy fuzz-out solo, it's like...
That could be me in there oh yeah but like yeah the percussion and stuff that they have in there like they got a funky
kind of latin undercurrent to the rock but it's also sounds like a 60s jam like i don't know it's
it's sort of it gets me right in the feels, you know? I really like this jam.
Inspired choice.
Thank you.
Thank you.
The ghetto,
I'm digging it.
Not the ghetto boys.
The ghetto brothers.
And the album cover is like,
it's literally a,
a pick of their like,
what do they call it?
A cut,
you know,
the jacket,
the jacket that they have.
Right.
It's pretty badass.
And it's not a sequel song
to the girl from Ipanema.
We also have easily found its way into my playlist, though,
because we love the Brazilian.
I'm getting it, man.
João Gilberto was a vicious gang.
He was great with a knife.
You want to stay clear of that guy.
Also, yeah, ending on a major seven chord like that.
Very sweet.
Oh, amazing.
And this next jam, by the way, from you and his wife.
I'm very excited because we just kicked it out on Pandemic Friday.
And well, because it's been sampled by a rather popular hip hop jam.
So we're going to get to that in a moment.
But I do just want to quickly thank Sticker U.
If you guys are getting bros stickers, man, go to StickerU.com.
They're based in Liberty Village.
So which one's, oh, another, that's a lager.
Okay.
Yeah, you both got a lager going here.
Okay.
There's an IPA if you like IPAs.
I don't know.
Okay.
Not so much.
All right, well, let me know if...
You want me to see if there's another lager?
Do you have any more lagers?
These lagers are going down pretty smooth.
Yeah, but this is the only part of the show
you can't do without me.
So here, let me...
Here's what I'm going to do.
When I start the jam, I'll run in and grab it
because I do want to thank...
Yeah, stickeru.com.
Good...
I talk to the owner. I like it when I can talk to the yes, stickeru.com. I talk to the owner.
I like it when I can talk to the owner of a
company. You know what I mean? It's not a big
conglomerate and you can never find an owner.
But shout out to stickeru.com.
Great stickers. And
I urge all FOTMs to
support them.
Ridley Funeral Home. They're here in
New Toronto. I know you were telling me earlier that you went
to Humber College. Did you go to Humber College?
No.
No.
So shame is because Humber College is a New Toronto institution,
as is Ridley Funeral Home.
Go to RidleyFuneralHome.com to learn more.
Brad from Ridley Funeral Home will be at TMLX 8 on Friday.
McKay CEO Forums, they are the hosts of a podcast called the CEO Edge Podcast,
fireside chats with inspiring CEOs and thought leaders.
And I urge everybody to check it out.
I just posted the most recent episode at torontomike.com.
Speaking of Mike's, Mike Majewski, he's the real estate agent who's in the know in Mimico.
And if you go to realestatelove.ca, you can reach out to Mike
and let Mike know that Toronto Mike sent you.
That would be absolutely awesome.
And did I tell you guys,
I have in the freezer right now.
This is exciting news.
I'm glad you're sitting down.
This is big.
So you have these big, beautiful red boxes in front of you.
Yes.
They're empty.
But when you leave here today,
there'll be a large frozen meat lasagna in there that you take home with you.
That is beautiful.
Oh my goodness.
Delicious.
I did get a little excited when I saw these boxes.
Yeah, well, that box, I keep it, you know, it's hot out here.
I don't want your frozen.
I knew that you did this on the show, so last time we did it, I didn't get any GLB beer
or palma pasta.
So, dude, we're going to take a photo afterwards at the Magic Tree.
And do not depart without your lasagna.
I wouldn't dare.
And by the way, the sticker, I forgot to give you this too.
There are Toronto Mike stickers for you that were made by StickerU.com.
So, you won't leave empty-handed.
And I'm going to start this jam.
I'm so damn excited to play it.
Again, this is Ewan's third.
Where are we actually at?
No.
Yeah, this is Ewan's third jam.
A stewstone favorite.
We just kicked it out on Pandemic Fridays.
I'm going to start her up, and then I'm going to go inside
and see if I have any more cold beer for you guys.
Here we go.
I'm drinking a woman.
Well, it was cold when it got out here.
I know.
It's all right.
It's wet.
There's that keyboard tone I was talking about.
Honestly, what a sample, too, when I hear this now.
Wow.
I'll be back.
I'll be back. I keep forgetting we're not in love anymore
I keep forgetting things will never be the same again
I keep forgetting how you made that so clear
I keep forgetting love
Every time you're near
Every time I see your smile
Hear your hello, saying you can only stay a while
And I know that it's hard for you To say the things we both know are true
But tell me how come I keep forgetting
We're not in love anymore
Here he is, the man, Michael McDonald, yes!
Voice of the 70s.
Finally.
As if I need to ask, why I Keep Forgetting by Michael McDonough?
I mean, I figure a lot of people probably nowadays know more from Warren G,
Nate Dogg, Regulators, which is a great jam too.
But, I mean, this song just greatly encapsulates sort of that world,
like the smooth music world.
You know,
you've got,
I'm guessing it's Jeff Porcaro playing drums.
Who's from Toto.
It's a safe guess.
Who's like the man of the era.
Um,
just slick,
passionate vocals.
Yeah.
Especially nowadays where like, you know where we've been through the emo era
and even hip-hop has gotten more about wearing your emotions on your sleeve.
Back then, these guys weren't afraid to be vulnerable
and kind of put themselves out there,
albeit back with some smooth music.
I respect it.
Also so keyboard heavy.
Is there even a guitar on this track?
Yeah, there's a little muted guy.
It's all like, oh yeah, you're certainly right.
So many clavs and electric pianos and synthesizers and stuff.
So, Gino Vanelli's been over here.
Oh, yeah.
He'd be great.
And he, you know, he played live here.
He can get smooth.
Yeah.
And there's a,
in fact,
shout out to Mark Wiseblood
from 1236.ca
because he linked me to,
I guess,
in 2021,
so very recently,
Michael McDonald
has been covering
some Gino Vanelli
in concert.
And it's pretty sweet stuff.
Yeah.
He's easy to satire, though.
Like, I think it was a Mad TV that used to do the Michael McDowell.
Oh, SCTV.
Rick Moranis.
The great sketch.
Christopher Cross.
Kenny Rogers, they used to send him up on Mad TV.
That's right.
The SCTV sketch is amazing, though.
Rick Moranis, you can't forget how funny that guy was
because he's not around now.
Man, he was funny.
You know, of course, he was an aspiring Toronto DJ on Channel FM
before he struck it big with, yeah.
And shout out to Rob Cowan who was on the show.
They were a comedy duo in the early days before SCTV took off
and Rick Moranis went straight to the stratosphere.
But, yeah, absolutely.
And what a jam.
Yeah, that I keep forgetting by Michael McDonald.
It's fantastic.
And you know, Regulator?
Regulators.
Regulators, right.
Was such a monster jam.
Like I just seen that summer,
whatever summer that was,
it was like everywhere.
93, 94.
Sounds about right.
I was actually watching a thing recently,
interview with Bob James.
Do you know who that guy is?
He did a lot of slick, smooth jazz,
funk, hybrid type of recordings.
Theme from Taxi?
Theme from Taxi.
Which is one of the greatest TV themes of all time.
Oh, yeah.
Definitely in our camp.
So good.
So good.
And he would always have those albums that were like,
they'd just be called Touchdown,
and it'd be a close-up of a football.
Great album.
Or like, you know, whatever.
But he's one of the most sampled guys in history.
The Nautilus.
That album, that song, The Regulators,
is sampled from Michael McDonald, Keep Forgetting,
and one of his songs.
And so they had to pay out two guys.
No doubt.
And he's,
he's got Bob James,
like he missed out on a lot of his,
uh,
his royalties cause the statute of limitations ran out cause he didn't know.
Okay.
Interesting.
But,
uh,
yeah,
it's a great YouTube video to watch.
Bob James.
I'll check that out.
Absolutely.
Check that out.
All right.
Seamus,
you ready?
Uh,
where am I at here? I get confused. Okay. Seamus, you ready? Where am I at here?
Okay, Seamus, you ready for your fourth jam?
This is your penultimate jam.
Let's kick it.
I'm so ready.
Oh, yeah.
I like that you're surprised by what I play.
I forgot what it was, yeah. Thank you. ¶¶ Yet another jam I did not know existed.
Dom Salvador, the Folia de Reis, the Folly of the King,
I believe it translates to.
Yeah, this guy's a Brazilian pianist who,
actually Ewan hit me too, he sent me this record.
Just an absolute dynamite, kind of soul, funky pianist,
but very much steeped in the Brazilian style
where he's got lots of samba rhythms.
This version, he's playing the melodica,
which is that little accordion-sounding thing.
But it's got the laughing drum in there.
It's got the mariachi trumpets.
Yeah, the cuica.
Just, I don't know, this song just like immediately makes me feel happy.
It's got like a kind of a goofy, like it feels like you're hanging out with your niece and your nephew kind of thing.
Or like, almost like a Peanuts, Vince Giraldi kind of feel to it, you know?
Or a yakety sax.
Yeah, almost, yeah.
It's a sense of humor to it for sure.
It's a good bros song because it takes a pretty simple, structured song,
but then it has all these different changes in terms of the instrumentation.
Not your typical instrumentation.
It gives you different vibes.
It's got a lot of sense of humor to it, I think, in a way.
Something we love to do is take a very simple, melodic, harmonic idea,
but then put a funky break beat or back beat
behind it you know like uh our song two for t is a great example of that where we just took like the
the dorkiest hokiest melody and then like you put a hip-hop beat behind it and you're like oh all
of a sudden it's fun you know or kazoo solo yeah exactly yeah But something that just like really kind of is very lighthearted and fine and sort of
undeniably, you know, enthusiastic kind of sounding.
So with bros though, is there a fine line?
Like, is it difficult to walk that balance between like influence and like copy?
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, you know, is it difficult to be like like, this is in the spirit of that jam I dig
as opposed to this is kind of a
carbon copy of that jam I dig?
I think, I mean,
there's all kinds of great quotes
about classical composers. Like, was it Beethoven
who said that the good composers
borrow and the great composers steal?
You know, sort of like an old chestnut
of a phrase. That's a good line for thieves.
Yeah, exactly. I always thought it was a good idea to sort of try and emulate the stuff you
admire as much as possible and where you fail is where the natural stylistic changes occur
like i can't sound like dom salvador when i play piano i'm not a super funky brazilian pianist but
like i can kind of use that as a launching point and where wherever i wind up is kind of the style that i'll wind up you know like we're still white guys from the suburbs of
saskatchewan over here too so yeah and it's like it's using uh we you know we borrow liberally from
various sources but we it's not like we're just taking from we're not just trying to do a copy
of a song and we're taking from all kinds of stuff and mashing it together and we have i think
we have a pretty good two man approach.
We're all come in and be like, Hey, I want to do a song.
It's a straight up Donny Hathaway rip and Ewan will take it and run in a
completely different direction.
And then we wind up with a nice happy medium that's a sort of a different,
a fresh take of something, which is, you know,
what's great about having a co-writing partner.
Well, and before I get to Ewan's penultimate jam,
how fulfilling...
Good use of penultimate, by the way.
I always say it as often as I can.
I'm curious, like, how fulfilling is it
to have these two outlets?
Like, that you have these kind of,
depending on the type of jam that's inside you
trying to leak out, you got the sheepdogs, right?
And I'm going to guess sheepdogs pays the rent.
Like, I mean, that's just me guessing here.
It's the name people know for sure.
Yeah.
You know, and then you still have this creative outlet
for these types of jams
that you and your brother can cook up.
Like that's got to be,
I would think that would be spiritually fulfilling.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
And to have the luxury to have a project like this
that we can work at kind of on our own schedule,
but also to sort of veer off in any stylistic direction
that we want to go to is very liberating and very wonderful.
And bros, again, this is me talking.
What do I know?
But I'm guessing because it's this creative outlet
and it's so fulfilling,
it doesn't actually need to make you,
it doesn't need to feed you.
Like it doesn't need, I don like it doesn't need i don't
know that's me i'm i don't have a clue what you guys make wouldn't hurt if it made some money
but i'm thinking it can exist for other purposes and then sheepdogs can uh make you money yeah i
mean well even the sheepdogs we don't necessarily like tailor everything to be commercially viable
but it's it's uh we make music cause we love it. And especially
with bros, it's, it's like following, I mean, some of the music we made on this last record
is like really out there and it's fun to like see people's reactions. Cause you know, especially
if they know us from the sheepdogs, which is very much, you know, a guitar rock band,
like they're like really taken way out of their comfort zone. And it's really cool because
we love all kinds of different music.
No, no doubt.
And I love that all your shit sounds like it's all kind of coming out of the 70s.
It's like I'm in some kind of a time machine and it's just different vibes.
Look, there's a golden era of music.
Like there's golden...
1968 to 1973.
I would say sort of the 50s, late 50s through the later 70s is really strong,
depending on the genre.
But people want to just follow the new trend.
That's okay.
But we talk about things like mid-century modern or art deco
and these types of trends.
There's a reason that we still pursue those.
It's because the things that were put out at a time were just a superior
quality.
And that's what we think about that era of music.
It just,
it's going to endure.
And you,
would you like me to play your penultimate jam now?
Let's do it.
Oh,
is this what I picked?
Well,
did I screw up?
Yeah, I don't know.
This is not...
Oh, it's supposed to be a different version.
Oh, well, we can fix that.
Hold on here.
So I just get the names, and I think this one...
It's the right song, but wrong version.
Oh, we got to fix that.
That's not accepted.
I'm going to go to YouTube then.
This is very, very crunchy and dissonant, though.
Yeah, I was like, what the hell?
Ewan Love's very dissonant.
Arnold Schoenberg, I believe.
Stand by.
We're going to fix this.
I was due to make a big mistake.
Ugh.
I hate this.
All right, we're going to kill this.
This was a big mistake.
I'll take the hitters.
I think I stuck it into YouTube.
Okay, so what am I looking for?
You're looking for Bobby Valentin, and it's Coco Seiko.
Let's see here.
Oh, yeah.
Here you go.
There it is.
Turn it up.
Yes.
My apologies.
No problem. I was playing this in the baseball diamond yesterday. Me adivina y me lo adivina pronto Por donde mi caserita
Es que le entre el agua el coco
Coco, coco, coco seco
Coco, coco, coco seco
Unos dicen por arriba
Otros dicen por abajo
Pero la verdad señores Es que yo no sé tampoco Some say it from above, others say it from below But the truth, gentlemen, is that I don't know either deconstruction of that song. Tell me why you chose this jam.
It just kicks, man.
It's just, you know,
it's kind of a big band sort of power.
Suave as can be.
A lot of life, a lot of color,
a lot of, you know, it's just,
it feels good.
Like, I mean, I love immediacy of music.
Like when it hits your ears.
Like I always compare music to food.
You know, everything that you want to break down you can over intellectualize it but food is great because it's like you put in your mouth does it taste good and music you put in your ears
does it make you feel good and that's what this does it's so uplifting and it's just a party so
that's what i want our music to be the dynamite horn arrangement right out of the gate and like
i don't know.
It's so kinetic.
You just want to start moving immediately.
I'm digging it, man.
This would be my ideal type of music to see at Lula Lounge or something like that.
And a good one for bros, too, because we both grew up playing wind instruments.
And brass is such a big part of the bros sound, you know, and Latin music is just the king
of amazing punchy brass lines, you know. And a little flute in there too.
Any chance your mom comes to TMLX8 on Friday from 6 to 9 p.m.? I'll put it at about a negative 0.1%.
Not so good, Al.
No, sorry about that.
She'll check it out online, though.
Now that you're giving her a shout-out, actually, I'll bump it up to 1%.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
I'll take that.
So we're coming down to the finale here.
Yeah.
I'm just going to check out what's coming up ahead.
Okay.
Okay.
A jam I know is coming up from Seamus.
Hey, all right.
All right.
I couldn't stump you five for five. I got to go review the tapes, but this is definitely
a jam I know and love. So I can't wait to kick this sucker out. I will profess it by
saying this is my favorite song of all time. Cocoa Stick. No. All right, let's get right to that then.
Favorite song of all time.
Here we go. It's a shame
The way you mess around with your man
It's a shame
The way you hurt me
It's a shame The way you mess around with your man It's a shame
The way you play with my emotions
It's a shame
The way you mess around with your man
You're like a child at play
On a sunny day
Pressure play with her
And then you throw it away
Why do you use me?
Why do you confuse me? Why do you confuse me?
How can you stay?
Well done, Seamus.
Ah, yes.
I see.
I get it now.
It's called It's a Shame, and you are Seamus.
That's all part of it, yeah.
Just click there, man.
I'm a little slow on the uptake here,
but tell us why you chose this jam.
Oh, the spinners, It's a Shame,
just an absolutely perfect
soul song um it's gc cameron who's actually singing lead in the song who's only the lead
singer of the spinners for about 20 minutes but he recorded this song uh written by stevie wonder
who i said earlier in the podcast was a big influence on me and my brother and this is a
ton of him going on that little sidestep move that we just heard, very much a Stevie move.
One of the greatest vocal performances of all time with his singing low and masculine,
but then going up high with a high feminine falsetto
and the way he bridges the gap between the two registers
is just absolutely amazing.
Impeccable horn arrangement, awesome bass playing.
The Spinners were a great band with multiple different eras of lead singers
and lots of great hits
but this was them at their absolute peak
he's about to throw down a huge run
brings it back with full voice
the band is just red hot
from here to the end of the song
it's just a master class
in how to produce a good soul jam.
Minnie Riperton-esque.
Yeah.
You know, you guys are so good at this.
Like, if you ever want to come back
and kick out other jams,
I just like listening to you guys
talk about these songs.
I mean, it's pretty fun.
When you talk about the song,
it gives it a whole different level.
Ribbon beers and listen to music
is kind of my favorite thing in the world.
Any time.
I'd make time for this.
This is what actually,
people want to know what backstage things,
this is what we do in the Sheepdogs a lot is we sit in the green room
and share songs and break it down.
Not like super formally, but...
No, but that sounds like a Sheepdogs podcast
waiting to happen.
It's a very good idea.
It's pretty good.
It is what we love to do. That's what we good idea. It's pretty good. It is. It is what we love to do.
Yeah.
That's what we do here at TMDS.
Keep that in mind when you're in the negotiations.
So Ewan,
uh,
what do you think of,
uh,
Seamus's favorite song of all time there?
Oh,
I love it.
It's a great,
great song.
It is.
What a great song.
Yeah.
Well,
it's,
it's,
it's unimpeachable.
I tried to sing it at karaoke one time.
As have I. Yeah. It's, uh, it's hard. Very,able. I tried to sing it at karaoke one time. As have I, yeah.
It's hard.
Very, very hard.
It's very rangy.
He's three plus octaves.
I don't know.
Well, it's like when in karaoke,
if you ever try to take on me by Aha,
and then there's that part that just exposes you,
that high note.
Yeah, you need to practice it, you know?
You just can't go there.
You just point the mic at the crowd.
Yeah. I'm actually sad this is ending here. I'm glad it happened, but I'm practice it, you know? You just can't go there. Just point the mic at the crowd. Yeah.
I'm actually sad this is ending here.
I'm glad it happened, but I'm sad it's ending here.
Maybe because I didn't play a lot of bro.
I'm going to play a little bit of a bro song,
and then I'm going to go straight into Ewan's final jam.
Is that cool?
Oh, yeah, here we go.
Just to hear how it fits in with what we play.
Summertime anthem. Drink you know you got a smile on your face
And it's just the sun
Because the sun shines brighter
When there's love in your heart
Just a little drop of rain
We had a little drop of rain
And wasn't it refreshing?
And you know that it's alright to be sad
It ain't all that bad
And when the time passes You'll's alright to be sad It ain't all that bad And when the time passes
You'll remember how to be glad
When the stars come out to shine
Wow.
You guys make music
that perfectly fits in
with everything you've just kicked out.
You should be proud of yourselves.
Thank you.
You love to listen to music,
and I think that's an important part of being a musician.
Yeah, I like listening to music, too.
I can't make music.
I'm not good music, anyway.
So here's a fun fact from Cam Gordon.
Cam, I'll see you Friday at TMLX8.
Cam says that bros, not you guys,
the original bros, the British bros,
we'll call them the British bros,
they have to change the English beat.
They had to go by English beat because there was a beat.
They went by the English beat.
They have to be the British bros now because there is a bros now here.
But they were briefly big enough to play to 77,000 fans at Wembley.
They had Debbie Gibson and Salt-N-Pepa opening for them.
That's how big they were in the UK at that time.
Like 77,000 people came out to see Bros at Wembley Stadium.
That's pretty good.
I wish Salt-N-Pepa would open for us.
Spinderella, who is their DJ, did reply to me on Twitter once.
That's as close as I can.
Nice.
I'll see what I can do.
Get us in there, man.
That's the end right there.
Okay, awesome.
That was great too.
And that's Garbanzo Man?
Garbanzo Man.
Is that on Volume 2?
That is on Volume 2, yeah.
Available now?
Available now.
You can check out the music video on YouTube. Dinalone Records? I was goofing around at the cottage. Yeah, on D on volume two. Yeah. You can check out our. Available now. Available now. You check out the music video on YouTube.
Dinalone Records.
Us goofing around at the cottage.
Yeah.
On Dinalone Records.
Awesome.
Here is the final jam of the day.
Ewan's finale.
Let's do it.
Oh, yes. Don't get in too deep, brother
Don't get in too heavy
Don't get so you can't move about
Whenever you get ready
Born free, don't see
But he sees just a little too late
Losing his freedom and losing his soul
And all he can do is wait for the other
Born down slowly, slowly
Born down holy Moses
Slowly going down
All right, Ewan, tell us about your jam.
Yeah, this is the great Alan Toussaint going down.
Alan Toussaint is like the professor of soul and funk.
He passed away a few years ago.
I think we were playing like breakfast television or something the morning that I heard he passed away.
He was a producer in New Orleans in the 60s and 70s and onward.
But that was his heyday.
He worked with everybody, like The Meters, the greatest funk band ever.
That was his band that he would use to back people up.
Wow.
Dr. John, just a million artists, and a great artist in his own right.
He's almost like a professorial type of
presence he was like sort of erudite and uh wise and he didn't have a great voice but he worked the
hell out of it his like modest register and this song is great because it's got like so many things
going on in it like it's very dense with all the various instruments but everything is perfectly in its place
and it just works
like clockwork
and
offbeat tambour
offbeat tambourine
which is the trademark
and just
everything
you know he sang
well Lee Dorsey
was another big
he wrote like
you know
working in a coal mine
and all those like
jams back in the day
and was like
you know he
I think
I don't know if he wrote
it but he everything i gonna do gonna be funky whatever i think he co-wrote yeah he wrote like
a million songs that you know but didn't know that he wrote i'd love to have his royalty profile yeah
i hope he got that money because he deserved it and he's just a total total hero of ours yeah
just just uh absolute master pianist arrist, arranger, singer, composer.
Just the king, the man.
Honestly, guys, that was like the best time.
We have to at some point just do volume two.
You like your volume two?
That's true.
We'll keep going.
We'll do volume one because we already did three.
Leonard's part six.
Okay.
And now I'm thinking,
forget the Sheepdogs podcast.
We'll do the Bro's podcast.
There you go.
We'll come back.
I'll do this again.
This is fun.
And remember,
I got a lasagna
in the freezer for you.
Don't,
do not leave without it.
Otherwise,
I'll be just eating
way too many calories
because I'll have to
take it down here.
I'll take down a lasagna.
But dude, seriously, thanks for doing this.
I hope you had a good time.
Thanks, Mike.
We did.
Pleasure.
And that brings us to the end of our 906th show.
You can follow me on Twitter.
I'm at Toronto Mike.
You guys are at Bros Making Music.
Bros Making on Twitter. Yeah'm at Toronto Mike. You guys are at Bros Making Music. Bros Making on Twitter.
Yeah, just search for the... I can't remember.
It's different names, but we're bros
and look for the guys with
mustaches and beards and not the
slick guys.
It is Bros Making Music
because I've been tweeting you all week.
It's stuck in my memory here.
There's that initial, like,
we've got to find the right guys.
It's Bros Making Music.
And go to Dine Alone Records.
Go Google it and pick up the vinyl
and all that good stuff.
Volume 2, Bros.
You heard how good it sounds.
So do it, because they're good guys, too.
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