Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Dominic Sciullo: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1527

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

In this 1527th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with Canada’s original news videographer Dominic Sciullo about his many years at CityTV, CP24, Global, Zoomer and his recent acquisition of artifacts, film reels, and unseen footage of the iconic Federico Fellini. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada, The Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball Team and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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How excited are you? Let me, you're sharply dressed today, I love it. I like to wear a jacket when I step out the door, cause you never know where you're gonna end up. And you have your bodyguard here, right? You're heavy. Well, he also does Videography work and he's sharply dressed. So your videographer has to be sharply dressed, but you didn't dress like this on City TV No, I wasn't able to carry all that heavy equipment around with a jacket on so I had to keep it simple keep it simple Okay, good to meet you. Do you have any recollection of meeting me in the past? Cause we've met twice

before. I'm going to jog your memory. Dominic, do you remember meeting me at all in your, your, you know, extensive life here? Well, I certainly ran into you a few months ago at the electric circus reunion. Yes. Okay. So the electric circus reunion, I was introduced to you. I don't know if it was maybe Joel Goldberg maybe introduced us or Ed Conroy or somebody like that, but it was great to see you there don't know if it was maybe Joel Goldberg maybe introduced us or Ed Conroy or somebody like that But it was great to see you there. That is the one and only I wore the same shirt that day, by the way That's the one and only time in my life. I met Moses. You're kidding. That's the only time I've had like, you know

FaceTime with Moses. I thought Moses had met just about everybody in this city at this point Especially anyone who can control an audio board in the camera. No, are you kidding me? Do you know the efforts in the lobbying that's been done to get Moses on Toronto mic'd, he has always consistently took a pass. Oh, why is that? Do you think why won't Moses make his Toronto mic debut? Well, that's a good question. I'm not sure why he wouldn't after doing 1,527 episodes.

You've got some experience. I finally got to Dominic Shulow and Moses is next. Okay, but regardless, there's another time we bumped into each other. We bumped into each other outside of an event for the Mary Ormsby book about Ben Johnson. And I'm just out there, some guy was parked crazily and I was having this like watching this guy in this parking meter attendant go at it. You know, I'm just soaking in the city on the Danforth. And there you are. So that was the second time and we finally

made this happen. Welcome to Toronto Mike. Yeah, thank you. That was Ken White's book that he put out with, um, Ben Johnson. Yes. And we were invited to that, um, event and it was nice to be there and see Ben, who I haven't

seen since my early twenties, if not my teens in Scarborough. Did he recognize you? He was having a busy, emotional evening, but it was great to see him. And of course, connect with you. Well, it's the Olympics are on and we've been, you know, Ben, you think about Ben at Olympic time, right? Especially summer Olympics. We think about Ben Johnson and what went down in 1988. I feel like the country in some level is still grappling with it all. Like here we are cheering on the not only winning gold medal, but world record time, 979. And

then a day later, there's, oh, there's something happening. And next day, a couple of days later, stripping the medal, no record, Ben kind of going home in shame. It all kind of happened that week. It was a wild week in news. Yeah. Well, there's a little controversy still going on with our Olympics and our Canadian soccer team, but we won't talk about that. No, that's the good stuff. Okay.

But you know, they could still advance to that, that soccer team, which got penalized six points, which is like two of the wins, not counting. They could still advance. Well, they beat France. They beat beat they won the first two games that puts them at zero so we win two games now we're like even Steven we're back at zero but if we beat Columbia we still I believe we still advance to the next round which is kind of a mind blow to be docked six points and still advance. I think there's another award for that. You being soccer buff? I'm not I'm not not. Okay, you know, I, uh, more of a hockey guy. You're more of a hockey guy. Okay. My condolences. I'm up. You see Wendell Clarks in the, uh, yeah, I've been staring at the, uh, the big C. Well, when you, when you take, when you go

to the washroom afterwards, you'll be staring at Doug Gilmore. Okay. Just to make sure you perform properly. Okay. Can we go back? Uh, I introduced you as Canada's original video journalist or a videographer or whatever term you prefer, but tell me, is that, is that absolutely back? I introduced you as Canada's original video journalist or videographer or whatever term you prefer, but tell me, is that is that absolutely true? I pulled it out of your bio. Are you the first person in Canada to be like a videographer? I believe I am. These days I'm getting the credit of creating the selfie, which is that right? I thought John Gallagher created the selfie. Well, John did more than just create the selfie. He did a little bit of everything.

What else did he do with you? I want to hear about the law. Well, there's some stories that I'm just not able to tell with a microphone or a camera. All right. This interview is over, Dominic. I'm shutting it down. All right. All right. Take me back, though. How does that come to be?

Give me your origin story, how you end up as Canada's original video journal. Well, this is a question I get asked all the time and it's an interesting story because I had no intention of being in television. I had set out to work on Wall Street and in grade 12 I was asked to be the very first intern at City TV. You're the first intern at City TV? The very first intern in 1982. And I thought, well, this is kind of fun. I can get a credit out of this,

have fun for the second semester of grade 12. And then I go back to university, Western was the intention, and end up doing what I wanted to do, which was investment banking. However, things didn't work out that way. I ended up as the intern, and I was offered really a full-time job upon the end of my internship.

However, I decided I would work part-time on the opening edition of City Pulse Weekend News. And from there, I decided I'd go back to school and at least get a couple of years in under broadcast journalism at Seneca. Right. And I thought well this is kind of fun but still I prefer you know going to university. However I was offered a full-time job upon finishing my two years at Seneca College,

and I became one of the youngest news cameramen in the city at 19 years old. And I thought, wow, you've given me a car, you've given me all this equipment, I'm traveling around the world, I'm meeting some pretty cool people. I could do this for a little while. Well it's 42 years later. 42 years later. Wow. Okay, questions now. Okay, so how do you get the first internship at CityTV?

Do you walk in and apply? You know, Peter Gross is here all the time. I produce his podcast. Good friend of the program. By the way, drop names, okay? I need to know what are Peter Gross and John Gallagher doing in the lunchroom at 99 Queen East or 299 Queen Street? I need to know all these things. But like, does Moses bump into you somewhere and say, I like the cut of your

jib Dominic? Like give me this, this, how did you become the first intern? Oh Moses is hands on. Yeah, how I became the first intern was complete fluke. My grade 12 teacher asked me to be an intern because I was in a high school television program, one of only two at the time, Stephen Leacock and Scarborough, and I had a 98 average. I had a thing for photography, but I didn't really have any interest in television. And he placed me there along with other students

at CBC and CTV, CFTO as it was known. Sure, CIFTO. CIFTO. And it was known. Sure, CIFTO. CIFTO and it's sort of worked out and That was 1982. I became the news camera man For about five years and then I applied for an on-air position in about 1988 Right when Ben is winning gold in Seoul, you're getting your on-air position. And Moses says, well, I'm going to make you the first videographer. Now remember, the term videographer wasn't even around at that time.

Right. Right. So I said, what is that? And he said, well, you're going to shoot and you're going to edit and you're going to produce and you're going to be on camera. And I I said do you pay me four times the salary? Right. He said no but you're going to have the fame of being one of the first. Now at the time I didn't know what to make of it because I didn't know what it was.

But eventually I got to learn that his vision for television was to make that entire newsroom and every program from the new music in all the specialty channels, videography driven. And I ended up starting to train a lot of these individuals, not just in the newsroom but internationally. And my job from the City Pulse newsroom took me to the International Division where we started opening up city TVs and much musics from Barcelona to Bogota to Helsinki, Manchester. We were living on the road for 10 years and it was probably 10 of the best years of my life.

So you're on on Moses's on Chum City's dime you're getting to go to these great locations and you're so you get to go on site right there's no zooming in back then. No there was no iPhones back then no we still had to carry the big beta cam and the accessories and it was quite an undertaking to travel with equipment. It still is these days. However, you can manage a lot with just an iPhone, but we didn't have that. But it became an incredible journey, traveling the world with Moses and all the City TV executives

and having that opportunity to experience the cultures because we would import the philosophy of City TV but we would hire locally. So Barcelona had its local people on air but the style and format of City TV was something they adapted from Toronto. So it became quite interesting because at that time national coverage was everything in a lot of these countries and when we brought local To the market they were fascinated that they were learning about what was happening in their own backyards versus what was happening at Queen's Park or You know on a federal level Dominic we get we now we've set the table how you got there what you did there

But 1982 when you're interning at City TV, can you name-check some people like like who's there who's in the building this is 99 Queen Street East right so like give me a little vibe on some of the cats you're working with and what is the vibe at City TV in 1982? Well you're pushing me. Come on Dominic I'm jogging the memory this is all you're more than jogging the memory you're taking me back to a time that is beyond what I can recall. And why is that, Dominic? Well, there was a lot going on at the time

because we kind of had the ability to do, I wouldn't say as we please, but there was kind of a free rein at CityTV in that era. And it didn't stem from the top down, it would almost stem from the bottom up. And you had the ability to produce your content without having the permission of Moses or the producer. You had the ability to achieve that

and if it was good, it would go on the air. So we had an exciting startup, I considered it a startup back then, because we were all experimenting as we went along. You know, Jim McKenney coming out of the Maple Leafs, Jojo Cinto, Mary Garfello, Debbie Van Kiekebelt, Gord Martino, Anne Raskowski, you know, some of these people I still have good relationships with today. We were a family, weord Martino, Anne Raskowski.

You know, some of these people I still have good relationships with today. We were a family, we really were. That's how I could best sum that up. We were very close. Not only did we work together for 12, 15 hours a day, but we would go out drinking afterwards, or we'd always be celebrating somebody's event,

or having a party at some point, which led into 299 Queen Street, which as everybody knows became a party hub central for just about every major event. That's why Toronto Mike exists, Dominic, to collect the stories from 299 Queen in these days. So without a doubt. Now, OK, so that's why you have one thousand five hundred twenty seven episodes. And half of them are just Peter Gross and John Gallagher telling me about doing coke at 299 Queen Street. Well they said that I didn't say that. No I'm not putting, no you haven't said anything. You haven't said anything Dominic. Okay so we're now there and this philosophy of Moses maybe like like getting that philosophy so young which is sort of so different from SIFTO I suppose where it's like you know go do that thing and then maybe it makes it to air

It sounds like you're doing Jack not jack of all trades That's the wrong terminology, but you get to wet your beak in a whole bunch of you're right Yeah, I did have a little experience with just about everything So, you know if I had to clean out the bathrooms, I was able to clean out the bathrooms But if I had to get a story on the air I Was usually the first called out on breaking news because a videographer can execute a lot quicker than a team of two or three people can.

Of course. So I would end up doing a lot of breaking news and we had a thing that you couldn't use a voiceover on a videographer story so you had to capture the moment and tell the story with the picture. Whereas reporters are able to simply voice over an entire one and a half minute piece and give you the details. I didn't have that privilege. I had to be on the spot capturing the image to tell you the story. Which I loved by the way. Did you invent, Dominic, true or false, did you invent the shooting yourself in the reflection of the car window? Yeah.

Yeah, we kind of invented that. And remember, I was working with Moses at the time through memos, like paper and pen. And he would send me notes throughout the day as to how to best execute this new form of gathering news. And yeah, one thing led to the next. And believe it or not, that's one thing that stands out in most people's minds is my reflection in the car or at the mall or some mirror that I'm passing by.

And nowadays, people with a camera is a given, but back then it really stood out to the point where other networks, I won't mention any names, but back then it really stood out to the point where other networks, and I won't mention any names, but reporters would come up to me and say, can you teach me this style? We've already mentioned CIFTO, so it's okay. Yeah, and it was some CIFTO people. I'm sure Austin Delaney learned everything from you guys at CityTV. He might have told me as much when he was here a couple of months ago. Look, we were like the little brother with these other networks, but we were the fun little brother.

And everybody wanted to be a part of City TV, but it didn't garner the respect I think it deserved. And we always had to kind of fight for our right to party, if I can say it that way. And we did introduce a lot of concepts from street front videography, interactive studio-less shooting environments. So we did do a lot, I think, Moses leading the way

that really to this day is accepted as normal. And what's your relationship like today with Moses? Oh, it's great. Moses was just at my exhibit a few weeks ago. Which exhibit is this? I have been… Is this a Fellini? This is Fellini.

I know, I was doing some looking into what's Dominic up to these days. Tell me, so tell me about the Fellini. We'll come back to the city because I have some clips and stuff. Well Fellini was sort of an interesting part of my life that sort of happened. I tell everybody I didn't go looking for Fellini. Fellini's legacy somehow found me when I was in Rome. And I have been able to acquire the largest private collection of Fellini artifacts in the world. Really?

That are now here in Toronto and we just finished a wonderful 25 day exhibit at the Italian Contemporary Film Festival that brought in the likes of Adam Egoyan and major producers, directors from Italy that brought in the University of Toronto who's helping us digitize 250 film reels that we own of Fellini's original drawings. This is massive! It's bigger than I ever thought it was and little did I ever think that this was where my career was headed. Okay I feel like this is like a Tarantino movie so we were in the beginning you know I'm I got a lot of City TV questions now we find out what you're doing now with

Fellini so you just came back from Italy. I had visited Italy with my two daughters to take a break from the industry. Oh, cause this film festival was here then. The film festival was here in Toronto. Oh, so it's just, okay. It's the Italian film festival in Toronto. Yes. I'm with you now.

See, I'm not as quick as you guys. Okay. But you were for personal, what? We acquired the collection in 2019 out of Rome, Italy. The collection had never left Fellini's office since its passing in 93. Wow. So we have everything, costumes from La Dolce Vita. Would you buy it on like a Facebook marketplace? Well I wish it was that easy, but it was quite an undertaking working with the Italians and getting the collection here to Toronto. And the intention is to travel it all over the world, film exhibits all over the world,

New York, LA, Montreal, Berlin, Venice, Rome. Okay, all the hotspots. Listen, so the name Shulo, that's of Italian descent? It is. For a moment, I thought it of Italian descent. It is for a moment. I thought it might be Irish. So it's not okay. So, you know, your Italian food, you're in Italy all the time.

It sounds like you're in Italy. You're acquiring Fellini. You just went there with your kids and whatnot. Okay. You know, a good lasagna when you have one, right? I think so. So can I send you home with a large lasagna? It's frozen in my freezer right now from

Palma pasta. The Petrucci family owns Palma pasta. This is independently owned. It is the Petrucci family emigrated from Italy. Uh, and this is authentic Italian food that I, I believe you will love this food. And there's only one way to find out. I need to send you home with a lasagna and you

need to tell me what you think of a lasagna. Can we do that? You want a lasagna report? I want you to get your big camera, not these new modern leg cameras, and I want you to go into the window of a car and in the reflection I want Dominic Shulow to- Sample the lasagna.

How does the pomegranate lasagna taste? Would you do that for me? I think I can do that. I don't know if I can find a beta cam, but I think I can shoot it. You know who's got one? I think Ed Conroy has one. I'm sure Ed has a beta cam and a playback machine. All right well Joel Goldberg, Jay Gold as I like to call him, who I was just chatting with and I was asking him about Moses's involvement today because he's still working at the Zoomerplex there and he says Moses is still hands-on.

Moses has got to be in his, he's definitely in his 80s, but he's got to be like 80, I don't know, around 82, 83 years old, I don't know. Okay, so more on Moses in a moment, but since you're bringing home and a delicious lasagna from Palma Pasta, great partners of this program, I'm sending you home a fresh craft beer

from Great Lakes Brewery. Wow. I want a full report Dominic. This is a complete meal deal. Is there a drive through? I'm opening a drive through in New Toronto here. By the way, question. So you're videographer, Mr. I do it all myself.

This is what we know you for. But you got a guy taking video of you right now. Like that sounds like bullshit. Why do you have this young man who's also, why do you make him dress up? Does he want to dress up or do you tell him there's a dress code in this? I just think he looks really good Do you dress up? Daniel just yes or no Are you dressed like this because this is how you want to dress or are you dressed like this because this is how Dominic?

Wants you to dress He what okay. He says okay, you got it. Well trained All right, so keep taking your video. I think Dominic should be doing the video doing his own. Yeah, well I could take the camera. I can easily do this. This is a lot easier for me these days. Well, it's more fun. I think it's more fun. I'll tell you, I'm gonna get back to that. So do I have? Well, I'll give you a here. I'll give you a measuring tape, Dominic. This is courtesy of Ridley Funeral Home. Measure what you wish. I don't need to know the details of that one. Keep that report private. Can I measure the lasagna with that? Yeah, you can. Let me know. There's a lot of lasagna coming

right. I think you're going to be able to feed Daniel here as well. So, so you got to thank you Ridley Funeral Home. They have a great podcast I produced called Life's Undertaking. Brad Jones is the owner. He's the funeral director at Ridley Funeral Home, 14th and Lakeshore. Pay tribute without paying a fortune. RidleyFuneralHome.com. Okay, we'll get to the Maple Leafs later. They got great baseball going on, Christie Petz. But you, Dominic Shulow, are now, you're the first videographer. Moses' vision.

I'm a big fan of it. And I understand that you're going to do all the parts. You're going to be holding the camera. You're going to be the guy talking. You're going to be, you're going to have to do it all, which is what we do today, of course. But back then, this is revolutionary, especially in Canada. But part of the reason all these other places are doing it now is to cut costs. Like, so how much here is necessity being the mother of invention? Because notoriously, because I've talked to so many people who were working

with Moses at the City TV Empire there, they talk about there wasn't a lot of money flying around. You had to do things cheaply. You having all those roles is probably because it is much cheaper than having a person, camera person, you have an, like, it's less expensive. Yes. You nailed it. That's exactly the reason how this sort of evolved. But it became more than just cutting costs.

It became a style. And it got to the point where there wasn't just one videographer. There was, you know, videographers within every single show that was produced at City TV. And not only, you know, where they one and a half minute segments, but I ended up producing several half hour,

one hour specials as a video videographer. Can you list like one or two of your personal favorites of those specials you would produce there? You remember any of them, Dominic? Were any of them memorable? Well, there was a, well, No, I'm putting you on the spot. You're putting me on the spot. You know what they said about Woodstock right if

you could remember Woodstock you weren't there that's right I think it's the same thing about the city TV in the 80s if you can remember working at city TV in the 80s you weren't there yes there was definitely a half hour special we did on fashion with alongside fashion television, that was driven by two videographers, I being one of them. And we basically had a half hour special that aired in prime time,

that again, I asked Moses if I could create the show and he allowed me to create it without you know giving him a script and an entire breakdown I would shoot it and he would review it and from there he would tweak it and the next thing you know it was on the air. That's amazing I love it it's sort of what's going on here except nobody's tweaking anything around here which explains the content not being very good okay so Jeannie Becker is involved with fashion television at that time, right?

Oh yes. And I'm gonna ask you, if you had any inkling that maybe this J.D. Roberts guy on Munch Music was, well he obviously was, he became a news person in Canada first, but did you see the future of J.D. Roberts' career? I couldn't predict the future of J.D. Roberts' career, but I couldn't predict the future of a lot of these

Talented individuals and so many of them, you know went on to other Networks in the United States and like Mary Garofalo Garofalo. Oh, I'm pronouncing that wrong all these years. Yeah Mary to the list Mary went off to New York City and she Had some you know big shows at the time JD was with a variety of different networks from Fox to I think who's Russ Salzberg Russ yeah sports he went on to be in New York is yeah I'm still doing something there yeah Thalia sure us yes yeah there's a there's a there's quite a few now is that better um did you ever consider it I considered. I certainly considered a move to New York City

I just didn't have the right opportunity. I had Responsibilities in Toronto that I just couldn't abandon But definitely there was definitely the the thought of at least getting to New York City if I couldn't get to Wall Street I could get there in another fashion. Well, let me play a little clip just to jog the memory here, but let's hear this. February 1, 1989. This is Toronto. and the City Pulse News team brings you to Toronto News. Good evening, a province-wide alert tonight for two men wanted in connection with last

night's random cyber attack. There you go. You want to hear a small world story? So I spent Friday night at the C&E band Shell to watch Cypress Hill. It's the Toronto Festival of Beer. They go three nights. One night's like the hip hop night,

then they have the country night, and then they have like an emo night or whatever. I'm there for the hip hop night. The guy who owns the Toronto Festival of Beer is Ann Muraskowski's partner. Isn't that a small world story? Yeah, but I was just thinking back on Glenn Cole there, who I haven't heard his voice. You didn't like my small world story. You're poo-pooing at Jane Sibbry's style.

Well, I'm not that interesting. See, Anne Raskowski, I didn't know all that well. I was very close with Gord. I still am close with Gord. And we actually ran a podcast, believe it or not, during COVID very close with Gord. I still am close with Gord. And, um, we actually ran a podcast, believe it or not, during COVID. You and Gord. Gord and I, yeah. Yeah. Called Aging Better.

Okay. I, I Gord, by the way, appears in my buddy's films all the time. My buddy, Stu Stone, who I met at the Toronto Fistful Beer, by the way, more on that later in the week, but, uh, I see him pop up in cameos in these movies that Stu Stone and his brother-in-law Adam Rodness are making.

Fun fact there, but tell me more about this. So you and Gordon Martin will remain close. You needed a podcast. Yeah, we just created a podcast that actually worked quite well. During COVID, we had to keep ourselves busy somehow. And we did about 40 episodes on aging and we brought in all sorts of aging specialists, doctors, and scientists and educators from around the world and we created a nice little storyline about aging. You know part of the secret to aging well is to have

those beautiful blue eyes that Gordon Martino has. Yeah he doesn't age so that's why he hosted the show. But how's aging going for you? I mean, I can't, you look like you're, uh, well maintained. Like you look, you look young to me. It's what's inside that counts. What's inside? Show me, show me what's inside there, Dominic. It's, it's been a, uh, it's been a journey. Um, you know, I was working alongside Moses up until about five years ago. At the Zoomerplex. At the Zoomerplex with Joel Goldberg. Okay, so here, let's advance. I know we should get you out of City TV, I suppose.

Obviously I could spend 90 minutes there. So I'll play one clip of you on cable, I almost called it CP24, but it was called Cable, no, Cable Pulse 24. Originally. Right, of course. So let's play this clip of you. Cable pulse 24 weather brought to you by 6 80 news. The horror of the Tabor, Alberta shooting and last week's massacre in Colorado is reverberating through one

Mississauga high school. The young for drum Dominic Shula rather finds that malicious threats of students, staff and parents on edge. We're just thinking, yeah, this is John Fraser. It's not supposed to happen here. threats of students, staff and parents on edge. We're just thinking yeah this is John Frazier it's not supposed to happen here and like people are saying that there's like a death list or hit list and they're gonna like they already have two people on hit list that they want to catch first. At this school? Yeah at this school. So they're all worried. A recent incident of vandalism that made reference to the tragedy in Colorado has both parents

and students here at John Frazier Secondary very concerned about their safety. There was a graffiti in the boys' washroom that said, if you thought Colorado was bad, wait till you see me. And so they just locked all the boys' bathrooms and they locked all the doors that like aside from the front doors from the outside. So these are locked now? Yes. They've been kept locked? The one that had the vandalism was kept locked immediately. Is there a sense of overreaction to any kind of incident lately? I think there's a really a highly everybody's highly sensitized to any incidents that refers to violence especially in schools and the kids as as all of the parents in the community we're nervous that these types of things

that can happen. You have to be concerned that if there is an allegation or a threat that it has to be investigated properly. Peel Regional Police and John Frazier Secondary School tell me that they're going to be looking for this suspect who's responsible for the graffiti and they say that the teachers will be talking about this incident next week in class with their students and encouraging them to report any acts of vandalism. Dominic Shulow, Peel Regional Headquarters, Cable Pulse 24.

Okay, Cable Pulse 24. So obviously you did a lot of things working at Chum City there. Yeah, I don't even remember that story. But you know, I was filing five to 10 stories a week. So it's hard for me to remember. Sure. But thank you to Ed Conroy, by the way, who actually archived that clip. So goofs like me could play it for you on podcast.

But I noticed it was Marissa, I think, hosting. And she almost mentioned Dwight Drummond as the videographer, who I was privileged to train Dwight Drummond. And I ran into Dwight just on Friday night. Small world. And we caught up at the closing gala for the Italian Contemporary Film Festival,

which he attended. And it was like it was yesterday. Great to see people from C City, it really is. It was just such a special time in my life. You know, Joel and I had a drink together a couple weeks ago at the Fellini Collection and reminiscing about our time on the road. It was special. Everybody had a very close relationship. We were all friends. We all hung out together.

And we did a little bit of work, which ended up being some cool shit. Well, I love how it all connects, right? So Joel Goldberg working on Electric Circus, and there's a guy there. I don't know if he's working security or whatever, a young guy named Dwight Drummond. And then of course, the famous, anyone listening to Toronto Mike has heard the Maestro Fresh West origin story and how that ties to electric circus. And Joel Goldberg is directing the early Maestro Fresh West videos, including Let Your Backbone Slide. And if you watch that video and drop the needle on these big early videos, you'll see cameo

appearances by Dwight Drummond because Dwight Drummond became friendly with Joel Goldberg from this period. It's just kind of fascinating the thing now if you watch local news on CBC, it's going to probably be anchored by Dwight Drummond. So it's wild what came out of that environment. And the great thing is, you know, these people, they haven't changed at all. They're the same people they were, you know know back in the 80s and early 90s So we knew we had a special time we we knew it wasn't gonna last forever And it was pretty devastating to us when you know news broke that City TV was going to be dismantled or chum now that dismantling was by Rogers right there was a combination of Rogers and Bell because we had so many properties that one

could not take them all on so they had to be divested to the other so Rogers ended up selling CP 24 to Bell of Bell of course. Enter Steve Anthony from stage right with Ann Romer there. Okay so unfortunate right what I monitored on my blog before the podcast was a blog but I was a big fan of the environment that you worked in that Moses built that that vision and then I watched piece by piece all the interesting character parts all the all the kind of the fabric of the city the stuff that I liked would be dismantled piece by all the kind of the fabric of the city, the stuff that I liked would be dismantled piece by piece and kind of sanitized and covered in

bleach after the acquisition of City TV by Rogers. What would go away? Speakers Corner would go away, Silverman Helps went away. All these things I dug were disappearing piece by piece. It's unfortunate. Now it's sort of like it became like all the other stations. Well that's just it. It became purchase programming. We took pride in reflecting on the community right from the on-air talent that Moses would

individually hire himself to reflect on you know the Greek community or the Italian community or the French community, given it's such a multicultural city. I remember, this goes back to the 80s, where you didn't have a lot of multiculturalism, diversity on air. So- And I feel like, if you, at Cifto, if Anne Marskowski, who is a beautiful blonde woman with blue eyes,

if she got the role, she might become Anne Malone or something, you know what I mean? Correct. Yeah, so, and Moses would want us on Woman with Blue Eyes, if she got the role, she might become Anne Malone or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, so, and Moses would want us to emphasize our culture and our names and our hand gestures. He didn't sterilize us. He let us go and be who we are. And you look back and you realize it was quite revolutionary what he did for this industry

He's quite the visionary and he still is to this day. He still is involved day to day As he keeps saying the only way to keep going is to keep going excellent, so why why do you end up leaving the Chum television well that was probably one of the biggest career decisions I've ever made. And it was because I had the opportunity to acquire this collection, which nobody believed me, including Moses. Because if you think back to the early days of City TV, Moses is another huge Fellini fan.

And if you look at how he built City TV with these characters,'s very Fellini esque. Don't you acquire that in 2019? I Do acquire that in 2019 and I had to resign from Moses. Oh, I meant like when did you leave the city? I know Moses is zoomer too, but okay, so just not the complicated. So so what what because you there's something between city and because there's something between Citi and Zoomer for you. Because you're at Global. I was at Global. I got picked up by Global to produce an investigative new show called 16 by 9, the bigger picture.

So do they recruit you? Like they tap you on the shoulder and make you an offer you couldn't refuse? That, yes, it was with Mary Garfello, who was our lead investigative reporter. lead investigative reporter. So I spent two years there developing this new concept at Global and we did quite well with this new investigative show. Well let me pat you on the back for a minute. I feel like you need a little ego boost here. I can tell you, okay, so you were executive producer for global television 16 by 9 the bigger picture and in those two years you earned four Gemini nominations and an

Edward R. Murrow award. Yeah, yeah, no we had a great team and we were competing with Dateline and out of the US and we were actually beating them out on the west coast. Global has an incredible team of reporters coast to coast and I was able to rely on each and every one of those. One of the stories I remember specifically was the passing of Michael Jackson and assigning a team in LA to cover that. So I found that job, you know, quite thrilling, investigating these stories on a day-to-day basis. But then Moses called me and his words were, are you done? And I said, I think I understand what you're saying. So I would

say yes. And he goes, can you meet for saying. So I would say yes. And he goes, can you meet for lunch? And I said, sure. And he says, well, come on over to my place. And I said, okay. And I showed up at his place and speaking of being dressed, maybe this is where the PTSD comes in. I was there in a suit because I had just left global

to meet him for lunch. Okay. And he looked at me and he said, why are you dressed like that? That's why I said you and he said, why are you dressed like that? That's why I said you had the door. Why are you dressed like that? So I said, well, Moses, remember, I'm working at Global these days.

He goes, okay, whatever. And he goes, are you ready to come back to Zoomer? And I said, yeah, I think I am ready. So that led to another 10 years with Moses. And working alongside Joel Goldberg. In Liberty Village. In Liberty Village. And it was great to see Moses reinvent

this new culture of catering to the baby boomers. And it's funny, because I spent a lot of time on the road with Moses, and everywhere we'd go, people would say to Moses, well, but Moses, you know, you're all about much music and this young generation, we want to hear about city TV. And of course, you know, he's leading the Zoomer media

at this point in time, and he says, but these are the same people. These are the same people that grew up with much music. They're just a little bit older now. So he just continued catering to that generation of baby boomers and again reinvented the broadcast wheel with Zoomer media and all the properties there. And it was great.

It's great to learn from someone of that caliber. And I've had the privilege of being by his side, really for almost four decades and learning his vision. And I think it's allowed me to continue, you know, four decades in this industry, which as you know, is not an easy task, especially these days of surviving. Moses, he knows who he likes

and he wants to keep them around. So you and Joe Goldberg would be a couple of guys. Who else at Zoomer is from the City TV Days? Anyone else? I know John Thorpe. Libby Snimer, his sister. Gallagher was there for a small stage. He talked about that. He was on the morning show and it ended too early for him. But, oh, how about Ziggy Lawrence? She was there for quite a while. She moved out of the city,

so I'm not sure she's there anymore. I think she's still there. Working remotely. But she has moved out of the city, but another wonderful woman, so talented and humble. And my first few years, her and I shared an office at Zoomer. Lucky guy. So, I've been privileged.

I really have, just having these people around me my entire career, and it's not until I sit down in front of someone like you that I can reminisce and go back and remember all these stories because there's a lot of stories to remember. Well, there's a guy, we kind of took you out of city, and there's a gentleman who sadly passed away far too young, who I would love to

Find out your relationship with him. Let me play a little clip of him The following program contains adult themes nudity in coarse language viewer and parental discretion is advised Were you friends with Mark Daly? Yeah, we were all friends with Mark Daly Very sad story, you know Mark was just such a character the voice as he was known and sad story. You know, Mark was just such a character, the voice as he was known. And, uh, he was like the, uh, the local cop in this, in the city pulse newsroom. He just had a great connection with, uh,

our police forces and our emergency services. And, uh, you just always wanted Mark to do your voiceover. Uh, no matter what show you were doing, you wanted Mark to be part of it another you know very humble guy from what I remember He used to be a truck driver in the u.s.. He's an American and Again the stories that we would hear from these individuals And the personalities they just varied so much, but everybody was you know fascinating and interesting And that's what came across on camera. And I think that's how we connected with Toronto, just through the personalities, which you don't see that much of anymore.

You don't see personality. You just see a reporter. There's a young filmmaker named Sean Menard who made a documentary entitled 299 Queen Street West. Were you able to see that at Roy Thompson Hall or during one of the other preview events that he had? I wasn't and I can't remember. I was supposed to go with Joel and I didn't make it, but I was with Monica Dior two days

ago. Is she in town? She was. She's gone. I don't know. She did pledge to me that we would find time. No, I'm not joking. Now listen, and when, when that same event, we met that 30th anniversary of electric circus, we had some FaceTime there because the same week is like a

Massey hall rock of fame induction that I was chatting her up at as well, because this is all around this 299 Queen Street West documentary. But Monica did pledge to me that she would carve out, you know, 60 to 90 minutes when she was in town to be on this very program. I have so many questions for Monica Duhal and you're telling me she was just in town. She was in town at a Mott 32 restaurant opening on University Avenue, I believe it was Thursday night, and it was so nice to see her.

I think we were grabbing some barbecue duck together. Okay, that doesn't make me feel any better, Dominic. So I'm glad you got some time with Monica, but I want some time with Monica Dior, okay? Well, if she's listening. If she's listening, Monica, it's time. Next time you're in Toronto, I'll even bring my studio closer to wherever the heck you are.

Like I wouldn't do that for Dominic, but I'll do it for you. OK, OK. OK, so back to the documentary, which Monica's in it. And I mean, she said she was working on it. So I'm not sure we didn't have a lot of time to talk. It was a busy place. But that's a different way. There's so the two nine Queen Street West documentary, which you were invited, I guess you couldn't make it, but Joel Goldberg, I did

see him at the Roy Thomson Hall premiere. I've seen it and it was, you know, scheduled and promoted to make an appearance on Crave where you could watch it on demand. Never happened. So it never did stream and I was just curious if you would even seen it, but it sounds like you missed it. I missed it, but I will definitely be seeing it. How are you seeing it? Is this thing being re-edited to be streamed eventually on Crave? I would I would. What do you know Dom? I don't know. You know that was a while ago now that this thing was getting, we're talking. But there's always a way you can access this.

You've got friends in high places. I think I'll speak to Moses. He's got a secret link. He does. But it reminds me of another story about all this old footage. I think Mr. Conroy was part of when we were out of 299 Queen. And we got a call that there was a bunch of tapes and a canister, beta tapes, behind a building at Broadview and DVP. Okay. I'm excited about this story, Dominic. And Moses says to me, can you find out what's going on with all these tapes that used to be in our library?

And I think I spoke to Ed, who we didn't have much of a relationship at that time and I think this is how Ed came to be part of the family at zoomer and Ed said well, I've just come across Dozens of much music and the original Tapes that are now in a garbage canister behind a production house on Queen Street. And Moses assigned me to go get the tapes. Whoa.

So we ended up gathering all these tapes and of course they had some great content on them. You remember the show, The Originals with Moses? Absolutely, yeah. So from that, we wanted to recreate Originals 2.0. So we would have looked at the characters from back then in the 70s and 80s and reintroduced them in the 2000s to see just where they are these days.

And unfortunately, after acquiring all these tapes, in the 2000s to see just where they are these days. And unfortunately, after acquiring all these tapes, we were not able to acquire the rights to content that we had ourselves produced. So that's because they're owned by other Bell or Rogers, depending what they, yeah. And that is, this is all coming back to a documentary that I understand is in production regarding Electric Circus because that hold on to that for a second.

But these tapes, how were they in this? What happened? How did the tapes get out of? There was no library at 299 Queen. We had an extensive library. But if you know these tapes, the beta tapes, they're not, you know, little. They take up a lot of space. So I assume they were clearing out space. Who are they? I can't say, spell media throwing out these. I can't say who was throwing them out. I don't know. I don't know. I just know that they were in a garbage bin behind a production house, which I don't recall the name. Wow. So we had the tapes, we didn't have the rights to them. And unfortunately we, I didn't have the opportunity to recreate that show with Moses back when I was at Zoomer so that's one of the things fascinating now I bet you those tapes are in because speaking

of moving out of the city like Ziggy did Ed did the same thing like he up and said I'm leaving Scarborough I'm going you know wherever to find wheels his dad and Port Hope or something like that he's got to have I think I I was once invited there but he didn't follow through with the specifics. So I never got to Ed, I wanted to see, I assume he's got this giant barn full of beta tapes. Like, I hope they're being safely preserved in Conroy's farm.

Well, it's a process, isn't it? It's a process digitizing these tapes. And I'm going through it again. You know, it's funny, because I looked after Moses's legacy, I really did. I had all his tapes in my possession from his CBC days in my office. That was one of my jobs, is to look after his legacy.

I didn't know that. You're bearing the lead, man, okay. Right down to actually looking at funeral plots with him. At Ridley Funeral Home. At Ridley Funeral Home. At Ridley Funeral Home. And I had all these tapes in my office, and never mind what we had at 299 Queen, we had like thousands of square feet of library

with these tapes housed, and to digitize all that is not only time consuming, it's very expensive. So I'm doing that now, literally, with Fellini's legacy. Which seems to have gone full circle. It's very strange, it's very Fellini-esque, my life in the last five years. But now I'm looking after Fellini's legacy,

which consists of the same tapes and written materials and props and costumes and I don't know how I got myself here But I do know it's very expensive because the University of Toronto Quoted us on how much it's gonna cost to digitize these tapes over two years Are you gonna give me the number or do you want me to guess? Well, I have no frame of reference. I didn't have I don't have a library but I have 250 reels Okay 250 reels of 35 millimeter tape

Which isn't beta tape. It's just 35 No, does I need to like i'm trying to understand because when the tragically hit put out the element 8 it had to be baked Does this stuff have to be baked or no? We're talking about a different technology. I think it's a different technology Okay, so it's literally it's got to be like in real time I think it real pun intended pun intended you can use that if you want totally got it Daniel do you get that on tape okay Dominic but he's got to say props to Toronto Mike for that one okay now I'm gonna guess this is a large number because you're setting up the story this could be a big number I don't have a frame of reference so my guess guess will be useless, except I'm going to guess a very high number. I'm going to guess they want $80,000 to do that. That's a ridiculous. That would be cheap. Okay, that would be very cost effective. It's 250 35 millimeter reels would come in at around $400,000. Two years of work with two people at the University of Toronto with the equipment.

Wow. So it's not cheap to keep this material, restore it and preserve it. I'll do it for three hundred thousand. And I don't know if the basement has enough storage here to be, and it's got to be a little bit colder. Also floods, not this basement actually, you're in a dry basement, but this neighborhood got flooded just a couple of weeks ago and it's not worth the risk. I can't afford the insurance policy on that one. Yeah a lot of places It's okay. Now. I got to tie up some loose ends here Okay so of course you being responsible for the

Moses legacy is the perfect training to be responsible now for the Fellini legacy I think that's the idea you're the ideal guy considering that training but back to the quickly so 299 Queen Street West when I saw It they had this footage much music footage from the early days the early years, you know Shout out to Katherine McClanahan For example, like we had footage of her which is really hard to find There was a lot of press where Sean was like sitting in the Bell Media

Libraries like I have access to the archives, but this early footage, Kenai Mike here is maybe the only one who gives a shit actually is noticing that all this early footage that we're seeing here is actually from the personal collection of FOTM Hall of Famer Ed Conroy. This is my observation. Oh, this isn't from the Bell Media library. I am, I believe, and I think Joel's confirmed this, he was on at Christie Pitts, back to that in a minute. I talked to him just a couple of Sundays ago at Christie Pitts.

I believe that the old tapes are gone from the Bell Media Library. And if it wasn't for a guy with a passion named Ed Conroy, they would have been lost to history forever. Yes. Yeah. Think about that for a minute. Ed saved the legacy in so many ways. lost to history forever. Yes, yeah. Think about that for a minute. Ed saved the legacy in so many ways.

And that's how we came to be. And I think it might have stemmed from that garbage canister. That's the Conroy origin story. Okay, now back to Electric Circus, but you personally didn't have a professional role with Electric Circus. You were just working in the building.

I would make my way through the Electric Circus dance floor at 7 p.m. Friday evenings after a long day on the news beat and see all the dancers warming up in costume. Did you see the cowboy dancer? I saw the cowboy dancer, I saw just about every costume you can imagine at 7 p.m. on a Friday late afternoon. Do you remember the moment? Because I would tune in and I saw regular, I knew people in high school would dance there. Shout out to the late great Warren piece and I would see this. That was Warren Blackwood, by the way, put this phone in my head at home. But I did notice a moment where they went from the regular dancer people to like supermodels. Do you remember this moment? Well, you'd have to ask George, like a genius.

I thought you were gonna tell me. Poor Monica. Okay, George has already politely turned me down after he stepped away from CB-25. And I was in an elevator with him at that very same event I met you and I was talking to him. Okay, well, George and I actually started together

at City TV. We were very young. We were early 20s. Sure. 20. And him and I grew up together and we've had many stories. Well you know what you're going to do for me now is you're going to say, hey George. George and Monica. We could just recreate Electric Circus here in the basement. That's what I'm looking for. Can we get Michael Williams in on this action or is he still upset at Monica?

We need a disco ball first. Michael Williams, yeah. He's another one who actually reached out because supposedly he studied Fellini, he's another big Fellini fan. So it's great, that's one thing that I've noticed with this collection. It's brought me back to a lot of people that I grew up with in the industry. Okay, well, you know. No Cleveland, no Bowie. So what city do we attribute Fellini to here? No Rome. No Fellini. No Rome. No Fellini Okay, you can you can use that one too here. All right, so electric circus Joel Goldberg tells me on this program

So I'm not speaking out of school that he is working on a electric circus Documentary with the guy who did the drop-the-needle documentary who's you know his name It'll come to me in a minute if I can't remember it right now, but I'm gonna Google it. I met him at that same freaking event, actually. But the guy who did the Drop the Needle. I know who you're talking about. But Joel was much the music guy, and I was more the news, serious guy.

Sure, but I was thinking with the Electric Circus doc, one of the problems is if you wanna do the, you gotta deal with Rogers and Bell on that one. Like this is one where they both have some stake there I would think. Yeah, he's gonna probably have to deal with all that and you know that's gonna take up a lot of his time. Wow, how many artifacts you got in your exhibit? What is the full name? What is the proper name of the Federico Fellini exhibit? We call it Fellini forever and we've acquired 1,500 artifacts and 250 film reels mostly 35 millimeter that sat dormant in Fellini's office after his passing in 1993 and

have never seen the light of day so they've just been revealed for the first time ever here in Toronto everything from his costumes, his props, we've got his glasses, his hat, his scarf, we've got his entire desk, we've got pencils that he would sketch out his scenes. With his teeth marks in it like John Voight. Pretty much. There's not much we don't have. We've got clapperboards, we've got megaphones, we've got director's chairs, we've got signed posters. You know the film La Dolce Vita? Yeah. Well, that's probably one of the most famous films

that came out of Italy. And we have a costume from La Dolce Vita. So we were very lucky to have acquired this collection and reintroduce it to the next generation which another thing I learned with this yeah exhibit how many young people have a fascination with Fellini and it's something that came as a big surprise to me because I knew you know the 50 60 70 year olds know the name and do remember his films. But when the 20 year olds come in

and say they've studied him and are fascinated with his producing and directing, it just proved to me that I'm on the right track here. I think you are and I think the world is ready for like a Fellini revival. Like I think a lot of people will for like a Fellini revival. Like I think a lot of people will become aware of Fellini through this work and

you know we talked about the 299 Queen Street West dock and we're not sure what the status of that is. We talked about the the Electric Circus dock which is early production I guess but we know some good people are involved with that. There must be a documentary in production on Fellini. That's there certainly is. Okay Dominic let me hear these details. Where are we at? Who's involved? What's going on? I would be in trouble by Moses if I did not document the entire process from the minute we walked into Fellini's office to the time that the collection left Italy, to the time it arrived in Toronto,

and it went on display at the exhibit. So yes, it's been documented. Yes, we've had a few interesting calls out of Los Angeles and Beverly Hills interested in the film on Fellini, given the 250 never before seen film reels that would Help tell the story beautifully So that is definitely one of the projects that we have lined up with this as a matter of fact I have a call with them tomorrow Would you do that call Dan here that reminds me what time that call is because he's a lot younger

Would you have the call on Toronto mic? Okay? I we can do it sure live through the board and I can record it and this Can be I well I can document the documenting of the Fellini Forever, but there's something as exciting that's happening really soon, too. We're gonna be having some exquisite Fellini dinner nights Through Charlie's burgers have you ever heard of Charlie's burgers Where's Charlie's Burgers. Have you ever heard of Charlie's Burgers? Where is Charlie's Burgers? Charlie's Burgers is an underground dinner event

and they have them all over the world. They fly in Michelin star chefs. So we plan on bringing one in from either New York or Rome and doing a 60 person dinner event at the collection a 60 person dinner event at the collection in our warehouse in an undisclosed area for 60 people with our own Fellini Forever private wine label. So this is an event for 60 rich people? Because that's going to cost a pretty penny. You're a fly in a Michelin star chef from Rome for this Fellini event.

I'm not getting out of that for, you know, 100 bucks. Maybe 200. 200,000. Well, that's, that's a little much. So how does, okay, so I have wealthy listeners. Like if somebody is intrigued here, like, do you have a website or do you have? We do. We have Fellini-forever.com where we keep everything updated. We have felini-forever.com where we keep everything updated and

We will certainly be introducing all of this in the very near future We're talking to the AGO. We're talking to Tiff We're talking to Like I said some producers out of LA. This is in production right now this documentary This is in production. It is in production. We are securing the studio at this point in time. I've shot most of it at this point. Fascinating. Okay.

You have some footage. But we're talking now, we're talking TIFF 2025. We are. It's the target. But we'd like to work with TIFF this year with an exhibit of our collection, a small exhibit that we'd put on display. Well, I know people there. I know people at AGO. Well, I know people there. I know people at

AGO you let me know man Shout out to Bob will let his wife is one of the big people there. Jim Shedden is there He's a great FOTM. Have you talked to Jim Shedden? We got to get a Fellini believe Jim was the one who came by and he came by twice Jim and he's coming back You let me know if you need any help with Jim fucking Shedden. Okay, cuz I lent him a board for his podcast He was doing with Alan's why? These are all Jimmy you listen in you listen in here Jim course Jim's listening Jim's a great FOTM but yeah, he's he's invited me to a

Few great Jim's been great. He's he's visited the collection twice He's in awe and I think he he really wants to do something with us and Look, it'd be an honor to work with the AGO and put this out there and travel it around the world with the AGO. Okay, so there's a lot going on in your universe here. So here I am thinking it's City TV everywhere. And then we're finding all this Fellini stuff out.

So you're a fascinating guy here. Now that event you've got, we're, you know, Frederico, what is it? Fellini-forever.com is where you can go to learn more about this stuff, if I remember that correctly. But you've got this great event with the food and everything. I just want to let you know, that's for the people who've got some cash to flash and

want to live life and enjoy life. But if you don't have the cash to flash, but you still want to live life and enjoy life, I'm telling you, the best bang for your buck in the city to be entertained on a Sunday afternoon is Toronto Maple Leafs baseball. Okay, listen, ask me what the ticket costs to see the Maple Leafs play baseball at Christie Pitts' coming Sunday, semi-pro ball, the best baseball in the city. I'll say they don't. Ask me, Dominic, what does a ticket cost?

It's a donation. It's nothing. There's not even a hat being passed around anymore. The new owners don't even do that. So basically come on out, fill the hill, watch great baseball, hopefully Mother Nature cooperates, grab a hot dog, I don't know, an ice cream cone or whatever, get yourself a beer. They got a Maple Leafs lager there. It's delicious. And come say hi to me. I'm recording live from just beyond the left field fence. Joel, you can drop by again. He doesn't

live too far. He dropped by last time I recorded live. Come on by again. We'll get, we'll do a review of the Dominic Shulo Toronto Mike debut. I need to talk to you about it, Joel. So anybody is, everybody's welcome. Come on by, say hi again. I believe I've been told by Toronto may

please, I'm throwing out the first pitch. Dominic, you should be throwing out the first pitch. Have you practiced? No, not even, I haven't even touched a hard ball in many, many years, actually. I think it'd be thrown at the first pitch. Have you practiced? No, not even I haven't even touched a hardball in many, many years, actually. I think it'd be fun to do no practice. Give me the ball. Let's see what I got. Like I used to I used to play wall ball, but it wasn't a hardball. We'll see what I got. Just don't hit anybody. Are you a baseball

fan, Dominic? Well, look, you're a hockey guy. I'm more of a hockey guy. But you know, if the Jays were winning. When in Rome? When in Rome, of course. You want to borrow that one too? I'll jump on the wagon. I've used that a few times. And shout out to all the people I'm hearing cry.

When in Rome had a big, was a band, and they had a big song called The Promise. And I know Perry Lefkoe, for example, and I know Curtis Joseph, former goaltender of the Toronto Maple Leaf. These are people who hear the promise by the Toronto Maple Leaf and openly weep. I challenge you to go listen to the Toronto Maple Leaf. Do I have to cry?

You let me know. I want to report. And again, reflection in a car window here. But I do have a book for you here. The History of Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball. Dominic, you can enjoy that. I can read while I'm eating lasagna and drinking beer. You got a good life. And don't forget to be measuring something with a measuring tape.

And one piece of advice here before we wrap up is that if you have old devices, I don't know, those old beta cams or whatever, they're in a garage or a shed or something. Don't throw that in the garbage, Dominic, because those chemicals end up in our landfill. That's bad news, buddy. We need to go to recyclemyelectronics.ca, put in your postal code and you'll find out where you can drop that off near you and it will be properly recycled. So the chemicals don't end up in our landfill. Got it, Dominic? I heard you. Okay. So here, so it sounds like we got a good Fellini update. I got some City. History.

History. Can we shout out Lauren Honigman? Oh, Lauren. See, I wanted more, I want more, a few more names. Like I wasn't there. You never saw me. Lauren went off to become a lawyer. Oh yeah, he's my lawyer. So there you go. Because he's a libel, a libel guy and I need a libel guy He's my lawyer Lauren Honigman. Love that guy. Yeah. Well again another another name from the past and you know, he covered the crime beat

I was just a rookie back when Lauren right was reporting and Smart guy he always nice guy right always saw him moving off to, yes, yeah. And I think a Rolling Stones fan too. Oh, possibly, that's his era, but definitely a huge Dylan's head. We did a special episode when Bob Dylan turned 80, and you can hear that in the Toronto Mic feed

where Lauren Honigman and I just talked Bob Dylan for 90 minutes. Here's a name, a guy who I actually dug him up, I didn't literally dig him up, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. But I found him, put him on Toronto Mike. It's the first interview of his life about his career. Harold Hossain.

Oh, Harold, our weatherman. Hurricane Harold. You know, he's a Calypso singer. Oh yeah. Harold knew how to predict that weather. Nobody predicted it like, you know, bring an umbrella. Are you allowed? And here's a question too. It's a Trini, you know, bring an umbrella. Are you allowed? And here's the question too.

It's a trinny, trinny, right? Yeah. I am I a white guy allowed to imitate Harold Hossain's accent? I would say yes, as long as you do it respectfully. Of course, I'm not making fun of him. I love it. I can't say umbrella without using his accent.

So, you know, I just want to make sure that's still okay. Again, you know, it just shows you the characters we had on that screen. Right. Peter Silverman is no longer with us. Oh, Peter, now he was a good friend of mine. Okay, tell me, because I did have a chat with some people, Christina Tenaglia and some other people,

Peter Gross and some people. I put together a special episode on Peter Silverman. Watch it, buddy. Watch it, buddy. One of the great iconic moments that I recall. Watch it buddy. Peter, good guy. He was like a tough tough fucker. He was a soldier. Yeah. Oh I had some of the best times. I went to France with Peter to cover the 50th anniversary of D-Day. Wow. And he was probably in his sixties then and I was in my thirties. One of the missions was to recreate a jump from a plane. And I said to Peter, I'm not jumping.

So I'm not sure how we're gonna do this unless you wanna carry the camera on the way down. And he says, whoppo, which is how he referred to me back then. You're gonna jump with me. And I said, Peter, I'm not jumping with you. So if you want to strap yourself with that guy and jump out of a plane in the middle of France, that's up to you.

But I am not jumping out of a plane because I just don't do that kind of stuff. They don't pay me enough to do that kind of stuff. They don't pay me enough to do that kind of stuff. So here he is, no problem, getting tied up and being thrown out of a plane to recreate a scene for a news series we did on the 50th anniversary of D-Day. So this would have been 1994. And he was like a hero to me. The guy was just fearless and he went after the story at all costs and he let you know

that he was coming. Watch it buddy. And that nickname for you, I won't use that name, okay? Just want you to know Dominic, I will not use that name to address you. No, but it was all, you know, it was all fun and games back then. There was a different era. It wasn't a personal thing. We we kind of you know poked fun at each other because we liked each other and We had a really good time we did we had a really good time and Peter was one of those special guys that

very memorable Everybody remembers Peter Silverman. Okay last name before we say goodbye. I need to know anything and everything about Ann Romer. Okay. Any relationship with Ann Romer? No, it's one of the people I didn't have much of a relationship with, unfortunately. You know, you can't be friends with everybody you work with. You know, there was groups of people that hung out and I don't think I was part of that group. You weren't in the clique there.

All right, then do you have a one John Gallagher story you can tell before we say goodbye? We literally collect them on this program. Just one. I think he's owned everything. He had a podcast with Peter Gross called Gallagher and Gross Save the World and I was lucky enough to produce this thing. And we have about 30 episodes before John sold his home on an Avenue road there. Al 5 and you were is he now Halifax always where he's from.

So he kind of just went home making noise in Halifax. Him and his girlfriend there run like a dog hotel spa thing. Wow. I know he's still does. Yeah. No, I've heard him on a couple of spots recently, but he's doing all right. Like he had a stroke, but he, and he suffers from the sad seasonal affective disorder. So he's always looking for the sun, right?

You'll find John himself to Florida. Well, he'd spends a lot of time in the sun, but he's doing all right. Like we keep in touch. He was just on Toronto. Mike, I did a phone call with him, like maybe about six weeks ago, but he's told on himself, most of the great, you know, he wrote a book even, but is there one John Gallagher story before we play? I know I don't know. Nothing that's fit for publication. Anything that I might have is not for the mic.

Are you gonna get Moses to make his Toronto Mike debut? I'm gonna talk to Moses. I have a meeting coming up with Moses and I will definitely mention it and I may even come back and shoot it. That's a Dominic. If you do, I'll put you in the FOTM Hall of Fame if that happens. I know you're a powerful guy. You're getting lots of shit done. You're going to be the the Fellini forever man and I hope that documentary I get I'm invited to the premiere. I can't wait. I hope they serve some palma pasta at the Fellini forever debut. Let me know if you want me to help connect that, but if you could get moses on Toronto Mike, honestly first ballot hall of famer, I

would just rename the podcast the Dominic Shulow Toronto Mike podcast and that might be the deal. How was this for you? Did you have a good time? This was great. You know what just thank you for taking me back, taking me back and I have another meeting to go to after this otherwise. I would have worn my city TV Toronto t-shirt Well, that's my job now if Moses this is me dressing up if Moses shows up you have to wear that Why I wore it when I met him and he said oh my god It's in such good condition you've held on to it that long and I didn't have the heart to tell him It's a replica. You know, I let it I made him think it was from the the 80s there by the way Ziggy Ziggy I want to let you know Ziggy if you're watching if you're

listening I will be wearing my Toronto tee by the Harbor front leader today and if you spot me I'll win something that was the deal Ziggy would hand them out yeah that was before your time though. No, that was around the era 80s. I love these looks back at the, looks back, look backs, looks back. Look back. I like this look back at the city TV era, Dominic. It's a pleasure.

This won't be the last time we talk. I'll be seeing you at the Palma Pasta Presents Thelini Forever documentary debut. But thanks for doing this. We'll get a photo by the tree so people can see how I dressed for this event and how you dressed for this event and I noticed your muscle here. Is he gonna beat me up after this? No, Dan's a pussycat. He's just a smart guy. Well he's the pussycat, he's a smart guy, a complete opposite of Dominic Shilo. That's why I keep them around. And that brings us to the end of our 1527th show.

I love that I made 1527 under 1530. You're busy, you're in Italy all the time. We tried to get this done, right? I'm going to Italy. You're always going in Rome. When in Rome. Promise? The promise. That's the song you're going to cry to later. Maybe you connect me in Rome and we have a Rome Toronto podcast. Can I expense it? Who can I expense it to? Fellini. You can follow me on, I'm all over the place at Toronto Mike Twitter, Blue Sky, but go

to torontomike.com. Again, is it fellini-forever.com? That's where people should go to learn more about the iconic Federico Felini. Yeah, join us and you'll see what we're going to be doing. I'm into it. 250 film reels for goodness sakes. And there's a virtual 3D museum. We've got one online. You're burying the lead again. I thought you were in news. What's going on here? Much love to all who made this possible

That's Great Lakes Brewery Don't forget your beer Dominic palma pasta. Don't leave about your lasagna Recycle my electronics.ca the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team everybody. It's Sunday. Come on out fill the hill I'm gonna have mom and dad try the palma. I want the full report and I want it in the reflection of a window and Ridley funeral home. See you all. I got to quickly tell people the next episode. Bear with me, Dominic.

This is not Jeff Woods. Tomorrow morning, 10 a.m. Jeff Woods is going to come on. He wants to talk about being bisexual and he wants to kick out the bisexual jams. And, you know, that guy's got a great voice so you can just read the phone book it'll be interesting so see you all 10 o'clock tomorrow for Jeff Woods peace and love. But I like it much better going down on you, yeah, you know that's true Because everything is coming up, rosy and gray

Yeah, the wind is cold, but the smell of snow warms us today And your smile is fine if it's just like mine, and it won't go away