Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Dude, Where's My Jam?: Toronto Mike'd #858
Episode Date: May 27, 2021This 63rd Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out jams with a dude's name in the title with Cam Gordon and Stu Stone. But first, a special appearance by Mike Richards....
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It's time now for Pandemic Fridays, starring Toronto Mike, Stu Stone, and Cam Gordon.
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I'm Mike from torontomike.com
and joining me for this 63rd Pandemic Friday
is Cam Gordon and Stu Stone.
Hey, what was so funny?
Because I can't look at you while I do the scripting.
What was so funny?
I was doing Damien Demento.
Yeah, it was like the Coco Beware, Ted DiBiase.
Yeah, we were rocking them all out.
Mix it up.
It was big.
So we're in a good mood tonight.
Smoking guns.
The Maple Leafs play at 7 o'clock.
Usually that puck drops at like 7.10.
It has to be the shortest episode we've ever done.
Last week, yeah, it was a 7.30 puck drop. So we had a little be the shortest episode we've ever done. Last week,
yeah, it was a 7.30 puck drop,
so we had a little more play time, and we think we were
okay. So we are going to talk
a little faster and compress everything, but
how the hell are you guys doing?
Good.
I'm great. He's only
good. Right. As long as it's
short words here. Okay, so I just
want to quickly shout out the people who
are actually uh here already so cambrio this too shall pass uh the vp of sales double d uh canada
kev uh who else we got here leave a fumka uh moose grumpy these are all the people who are at live
dot toronto mike.com everyone by the way, is invited.
Don't feel like you're late to the party.
You can't just create a username and start commenting.
We welcome newcomers.
So live.torontomike.com is where we are.
Yeah.
So you guys said you're good and great,
but anybody want to elaborate before I make a couple of corrections
about last week's country music jam kicking?
No. I just want to
commend you, Mike. We talked a little bit
about the Art Bergman episode.
There's a big Art Bergman fan. I think
you did very well with him. That seemed
like Pete. That seemed exactly what
I would expect from Art Bergman.
And what did you think of the open?
Because it confused a few people, but I felt
like it was... I just felt like leaving in that pre-intro stuff.
Yeah, it was kind of just, it sort of all made sense, the entire package. So yeah, I think that was a good call. You know, we were right to the edge of getting Future Mike making an appearance a few times, but didn't quite have to pull
the trigger on that one. But yeah, it was a good
listen. On a serious note, now
Stu, I take it you probably have
not listened to the Art Bergman episode.
True. Okay.
The reason I was asking was because Art had
some takes
he had on the crisis
in Gaza.
And I was just curious about a note I got.
I won't name the person at all,
but somebody who felt like Art was being a little anti-Semitic.
And I didn't actually, and Cam, I know you listen.
He basically said that Israel was committing apartheid and genocide.
Wow.
Like the country.
But here's my question.
So can you, and I think the answer is yes,
because I didn't, you know,
I usually will pounce and denounce if I hear any hate,
anything anti-Semitic or racist or homophobic or anything.
But I feel like you can criticize Israel
and what's happening in Gaza
without it having anything to do with any religion.
What say you, Stu Stone?
Listen, I, well, listen, I i mean if it was an easy thing to
sort of like take a stance that nobody's going to get upset with then it would be easy to take a
stance right it's not this is a very complex situation that's been going on since since the
bible there's been you know and and in recent history this is like a tumultuous area of the world where, you know, Israel is located in a place that's surrounded by a bunch of people that like don't really want them to be there.
You know how the story of how Israel sort of came to be not to do like an education before we kick out fun jams.
But from what my perspective is of it, of course, other people may have different opinions.
But, you know, after World War II,
after the atrocities that took place,
there was a lot of refugees that were of Jewish descent in Europe
that were trying to leave Europe and go to a safer place.
Places like America weren't necessarily taking them.
People weren't lining up to take them.
The United Nations sort of got together and was like, here's this little piece of land.
You guys can be safe there.
That's a place that the UN agrees that you guys can go and safely be and we'll make sure you're good.
They went there.
They built up Israel into this sort of oasis in the desert that it is.
For people who have been there, they'll tell you that it's like as you
don't even really realize you're in the middle east because it's such a progressive place considering
the rules and sort of strict uh ways of living that are in the area surrounding israel you know
it's very much western ish there you know people can be gay straight uh they can be it's very it's a very uh do what you like
kind of atmosphere that being said you know you look at the from the flip side you look at the
story of any sort of new country that establishes itself there's definitely some some things that
aren't so great that take place look at the story of of America. You know, it's the same shit. It's like they came there and then
there was natives that were there and it was not good. I don't know because I'm not there and I
don't see what's happening there firsthand. I only know from what I hear and what I see on the
television and in conversations with people. But listen, I'm of the belief that, you know, peace is the way to
go, obviously. And when you have a terrorist group that is on one side, that sort of mix themselves
in with one side, then it becomes very hard to say that either side is, listen, if the terrorists
weren't there, would we be having this bloodbath? I don't know. Would you still have some rogue Israeli cops that went and did something bad?
Does that mean all Israeli cops are like that? If you have a sector of extreme religious Jews
that want to go in and try to do whatever they're doing, does that represent all Jews and all
Israelis? No, it does not. It's the same sort of, you have to look at it in that same lens.
I'm not there.
I'm not even Israeli.
People are coming at me like I did something wrong.
Like, no, I didn't.
You know what I mean?
This is not, this is, I don't know, man.
It's a controversial thing.
If it was easy to solve, it would have been solved.
There was alleged peace treaties
that were signed by the previous government
of the United States that clearly
didn't. Where's the peace? It's not there. And I think it's going to take a lot more. But I think
eradicating terrorist groups from one side or the other is a great start to getting peace.
And, you know, I'm hoping that's what I hope for. That's what I hope for. If this was just
a dispute between Israel and Palestine and
Palestinians, I should say, that's one thing, but it's not. It's Israel defending itself
from a terrorist group that's launching rockets at it. So yeah, war sucks and there's casualties
of war and there's rules of engagement when it comes to war and nobody wants to kill women and
children. I don't think
that's anybody's intent. And it sucks. War sucks. When you drop a bomb on a building, there's going
to be people that are unintended or, you know what I mean? There's going to be casualties.
That's the reality of war. War sucks. And, you know, diplomacy hasn't historically worked there, but maybe it will work this time. I don't know.
I think, yeah, we all want peace. And I'm glad you got to say your piece.
And I'm going to crack open a Sunnyside IPA that I literally picked up at Great Lakes Beer earlier today.
But for him to say that there's like genocide and all this shit being committed.
that there's like genocide and all this shit being committed i mean that's that's a real slanted view that like if i feel like he should be open-minded and talk to people of other of other outlooks to
see if it might change his opinion because i i think the choice of words uh we were interesting
from our version on that um sue can i ask you a question i i'm amazed i actually don't know this
did you go on like the birthright trip i didn't know i didn't but uh obviously i know tons of
people that did yeah have you been to israel i've not been a visitor ironically i've been to the
middle east like i was gonna say yeah i've been to the middle east now the bob hope gimmick yeah
i've done the bob Hope shtick.
Luckily not the Danny Thomas shtick.
I didn't take it to Israel.
Listen, let's not pretend that
Israel, if you take out this
conflict, this war that's going on,
there's a whole political war going on in Israel.
There's problems
there with the government
and elections. It's a mess.
So this is just adding to the mess.
There's like,
you know,
it's,
will we be able,
sorry,
I'm sorry to trample over you,
but will we be able to resolve this conflict by puck drop?
I don't think so.
And I think,
and I think by the way,
as long as there is conflict going on there,
it's like the,
then the terrorists are winning.
That's what they want.
They want the attention and they're getting it.
Well, I didn't mean to.
I'm not toasting to that, that's for sure.
But I am toasting to our-
I'm toasting to peace and to the Leafs.
To Willie Kneelander.
Oh, my God.
My seven-year-old's favorite Leaf, which is the-
Yeah, he got on early.
And also, like, early so and and also like
uh jason spezza and like the old guys i don't know by the way do we know is joe warmington
with the sun anymore did we confirm that he's gone i have not heard confirmation he's gone okay
i just i think it was jesse hawkin um on twitter mentioned this. Anyway, I just mentioned this.
If Wiseblood's listening at home,
let us know if Warmington, if the worm
is gone. Anyway, I just
mentioned that because after the Leafs' big win
in Game 4,
the Night
Scrawler, was that what it was named? Night Scrawler.
He sent out a tweet
saying, what a great effort by
Joe Thornton and Jason Spason spetsa and i just
thought it's funny because those are literally the only two leafs on the current team that are
not on twitter like he tagged like two random guys everyone else is on twitter they're too old
for twitter lander and matthews and even like freddie anderson yeah not uh not spetsa not not
uh jumbo jo, my goodness.
Okay, so we're going to rock and roll here.
I just want to make a big correction from last week.
So last week we kicked out Country Music Jams.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
And all week I've been kind of like, you know what I've been saying all week?
I've been saying, hello, darling.
Like I've been saying that all week.
Like it's stuck in my head.
It's a good line.
That version that we played of Stu Stone's jam Friends in Low Places
Yeah, that wasn't Garth.
I've been told by excellent sources
including Dale Cadeau and others that
that was not Garth Brooks.
It was labeled on YouTube as
Garth Brooks. Stu, we both saw that.
It sounded in my headphones like
that's Garth Brooks, but apparently it wasn't Garth Brooks
which I find interesting.
Between that and this redo
that Stu's going to need to do for all the girls.
I love before.
Let's talk about that now.
Cam, set it up.
You did a Twitter poll.
What a poll that was.
Tell us about what you did.
A lot of people voted.
People were flocking to the polls.
People were flocking to the polls.
Not your time.
Cam, I'm going to mute this man.
It says the winner.
It's ironic because that's a winner.
I know winners.
So what was the question in the poll?
How many people voted and what was the result?
Huge turnout.
Let me just say that.
So the question was, it was a simple question,
is To All the Girls I Loved Before by Julio Iglesias and Willie Nelson.
Is that a country song?
Right there. That's leading the witness just by putting Julio Iglesias and Willie Nelson. Is that a country song? Right there.
That's leading the witness just by putting Julio's name first.
But go ahead.
Ridiculous.
What's the difference?
Anyway, 66 people voted.
You know, a huge turnout.
Shout out to Mario Lumiere, number 66.
And I think it was about 64, 65% said not a country song.
Interesting.
Which was what you and I thought, right, Cam?
I counter to Cam's horseshit poll, which all the people that voted that it's not are also, I don't know, have words to describe people that think like that.
You got two more minutes, Trump.
You got two more minutes, Trump.
But I will say, I will say, just to counter program the nonsense that just came out of Cam's mouth.
Number one country song of the year.
To all the girls I've loved before.
Country music award for song of the year. I think that's completely irrelevant.
Country music award, Mike, I'm talking.
Country music award for song of the year.
To all the girls I've loved before.
talking country music award for song of the year to all the girls i've loved before hmm i guess it's not a country song because 66 people on cam's stupid feed think it isn't i i look okay
first of all they're not stupid they're very smart second of all so is it the recording academy
they're just like you know this this was association that gave fucking jethro tull the
best heavy metal album.
A guy literally bouncing across stage playing a flute or a harpsichord.
What the fuck?
Someone just said, Willie's saying on We Are The World, is it a country song?
That right there.
Great question.
Great fucking question.
Don't bring USA into Africa.
That right there, that's condescending bullshit that I expect from VP of Sales.
No, VP is right.
Okay, I'll agree with Stu on that.
Strike that from whatever it is.
No, VP is asking the question, and it's a great question.
No, it's not.
Obviously, it's fucking not, and that's not even what I'm saying.
To All the Girls I've Loved Before was released
as a single from Willie Nelson's fucking album.
But it was Julio's song, and Willie was the guest.
Hold on.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But Stu, you're only... Julio's the guest. Hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But still, you're only...
Julio's the guest.
The only thing you keep leaning on is that Willie is singing on this song.
And it's on Willie's album and it's Willie's release.
It's Willie's single.
Yes.
Is Willie known to do Latin singles?
No.
Aladdin?
He's a country artist that had a Latin singer.
Aladdin.
Aladdin. Aladdin Sane. Why is itaddin aladdin aladdin saying that's the uh
yeah there's that's part of the ppf sales knows damn well that that this has that we are the
world does that's not an argument kenny rogers was in the mix there yeah like f you so oh that
was rude okay so so we had the wrong Garth Brooks jam.
Apparently he's not on.
I like we had like a really
calm, measured discussion about the Middle East.
And then we're like,
I'm going to turn the fuck off.
We pray for peace in the Middle East,
but there can never be peace
on Pandemic Fridays,
as long as Cam and Mike are here.
And fuckface, flag fly forever.
I got a screen cap at that poll,
so I'm going to take that with me all over the world.
You can wipe your ass with that.
Guys, here's a jam I want you to focus on before we kick in.
Let me tell the listenership, it's Dude, Where's My Jam?
That's the subject of today's pandemic Friday and
what that means it's a very clever title that Cam
came up with like a hundred years ago and
it means that these songs we're going to kick out
tonight have a
dude's name in the title
so these are songs we did a
woman's name in the title a gal's name in the title
a few weeks ago now this is girl jams
yeah we did girl jams now it's dude where's
my jam but before here's a dude with a jam i just want to pay respect to this gentleman
uh shout out to ridley the actual singer of this song
passed away since we last recorded.
Oh, really?
Yeah, just didn't.
I think it was just announced.
What was his name again?
I was hoping you'd remember.
Oh, John Davis.
Not John Davidson, but John Davis.
Right from Hollywood Squares.
Yeah.
So John Davis?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So much like with Boney M
and some other artists we know,
Rob and Fab weren't singing.
Everybody knows this.
Milli Vanilli gave back their Grammy
for Best Promising Group
or whatever they won.
Best Promising Group.
Yeah, well, what was the name
of the fucking Grammy they won?
Do you know?
I guess it doesn't matter what they won
because the awards don't mean anything
as far as you guys know.
What a petulant.
What a petulant.
Somebody that wins the award for the
best country song of the year by the country
recording... Country
Music Awards is not a country song
so who gives a shit what happened with Millie?
The majority has spoken.
Let him have his tantrum.
The majority has spoken. We have two-thirds of the respondents
agreeing with Cam and I.
Oh, please.
One out of three dentists is wrong.
Okay, so Cam and Stu,
every week I've been inviting somebody
to join us to kick out that first jam.
So again,
oh, I would pay money to have Art
vs. Stu in some kind of a debate. That would be
fantastic. First of all, Canada Kev is saying sales
don't equal quality. We're not arguing the quality
of the song, Girls Do All The Girls I
Loved Before. I don't even necessarily like the
song. I'm saying it's a fucking country
song. So we'll pause on that. We'll put a pin
on that. We can come back to it if you want.
Our special guest is here
to kick out the first jam with a dude's
name in the title. Who's it going to be?
I have no idea. I'm excited. Let's see.
Who's
showing up in the Zoom room?
Oh, wow.
Okay, it's
Rob Mike Richards.
Gentlemen, what's going on?
What's happening? Mr. Richards.
This is a nice surprise.
Wow.
I don't even know where I am.
Is this Russian television?
Yes.
What's going on here?
I have no idea.
You're on the dark web?
It's like a tour.
Does this have something to do with Bitcoin?
Yes.
Because I don't know what's happening.
Yes, give us your money,
and we will make sure that it's taken care of.
Yes.
Yeah. We do have some footage of you doing some things on your computer which we will release who doesn't i put it up myself let's be all right there are no secrets here where do you think we
got it yeah exactly i think mike's here to give us his take on the crisis in the gaza uh what say
you mr richards oh why can't we all get along?
Is this a new fight, by the way?
It seems new.
Yeah, I don't think you want me
on that kind of political commentary.
I think I feel like a lot of people
where lately you just turn on the news
because, well, turn on the news.
It's on all the time.
I don't know about your houses,
but CP24, I don't even know
how they gather their their ratings but it
it's like mcdonald's when they used to change the sign when when when hamburgers would go up there
it's it's got to be in that now they just say billion served because cp24 is on uh 24 hours a
day and there is literally no uh charming news like there's really there's no feel-good stories it's just this real of and
quite honestly uh certainly here in toronto it's almost unrecognizable uh as a kid growing up in
this area yeah to the mass uh of shootings and stabbings and killings and uh they like even even
things like the the pedestrian accidents uh are are just, it seems like it's just out of hand and, and you, you start to feel like
how you used to see your, your parents and, uh, uncles and it was all bad and, uh, nothing
good on the TV.
Well, I think I'm there because I turn it on and it's a little sad.
It's a little sad in that you don't even see the squirrels, uh, uh, water skiing anymore.
Like you don't, you don't see the, the cute stories where,
where the ducks are doing impressions of, you know what I mean?
There just doesn't really seem to be an angle of any real great happiness,
which I think is why, you know,
when we start talking about kicking out the jams and you start talking about
music, it still is the one great escape, regardless of your choice,
regardless of you you know your your
own personal preference and mine tends to be all over the map just just so you know i'll play
certain things but mine is really runs the gambit so mike firstly thank you for being here what a
surprise we're honored to have you on our pandemic friday here i think it's our 63rd pandemic friday
so let me kick out your jam let me play it and then I'll bring it. Wait, can we just comment on what he just said?
Yeah, sure.
We'll talk to him after too.
I think that the thing he's nailed is like,
it's not the news anymore.
It's the bad news.
Second of all,
I really applaud how he was able to answer the question
that you asked him by taking it into like a CP24
bad news thing. And I applaud him for that. He's a cp24 uh bad news thing and i applaud him for
that so he's a pro man morning show very professional very professional saga 960 as saga
960 is where we can hear mike richards every morning just confirming you cannot that is good
news talk saga 960 that is correct right well i i just have one comment on the like just something
you mentioned maybe it's the water skiing squirrel.
I think of even,
you know,
there was the saga a lot,
you know,
pandemic starting this sucks,
but oh my God,
there's baby foxes down at the boardwalk in the beaches.
Two days later,
two of them are dead.
Like a dog like killed them.
It's like,
what the,
we can't even have fucking baby foxes.
That's right.
That's absolutely right.
No,
it's like brutal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right. Again again the topic today
is a dude wears my jam these are songs of a dude's name in the title i'm gonna play mike
richards jam i'll bring it down we'll hear from mike and then we will all have an opportunity to
pester mike with a rapid fire questions before we get to cam gordon's first jam so here is
mike richards jam So here is Mike Richards' jam. guitar solo You're kissing time in the first degree
Second and third as well
Mind you're refined to be serving your time
When you go straight to hell
Cause he was sort of enlightening
Though socially frightening
But never out to sell
The nickels and pints
Made more than it seems
And not the sensible thing
Love is a man at a time
Man at a time
But to its great
That you was one of a kind
Man at a time Man of a time, man of a time
I'm a lover of a song
You was right
Sorry.
Talk to me, Mike Richards.
That's obviously Tesla, a big band from, depending on when you,
if you were into that kind of music
in the 90s, so
as things went into the
depending on how derogatory you want to be, the
glam, hair metal,
which they always hated, because they
toured with bands like Poison,
and so they kind of got grouped in there,
and as you
maybe you've seen, but
some bands really just didn't like that title, and as you saw in maybe you've seen, but some bands really just really didn't like that title.
And as you saw in George Strombolopoulos' interview with Sebastian Bach, when he insinuated that Sebastian was the front of a glam hair metal band, it turned very bad for Strabo. That interview, as he stormed off, it was because certain bands
don't want to be in that category. Because these guys, Tesla,
and this was the original lineup,
were great players. Like, really
good players. And that's the one thing about
certainly musically
from my standpoint, I come from
a very musical family. My father
still plays
every instrument. He just
will go over, pick it up and start playing.
It doesn't matter if it's a saxophone, a ukulele or trumpet.
He will do piano, organ, barbershop, choir.
That's kind of the background that I come from.
So my brother's all grade 10 piano.
I was the drummer.
So I was the, not surprisingly, the middle child, the problem child, the black sheep of the family.
But it's not
that i couldn't go over to a piano or pick up a bass guitar or do something i mean that's just
sort of how we grew up playing in the band so so so in high school i know people sort of uh thought
it was you know mocked or whatever i also played you know high level sport but i was also in the
band i also played percussion in the band and so you know you're you're as likely to hear metallica or something
uh blasting in my car or truck depending what i'm driving and then and then i'll and then mozart
and mozart's next simply because symphonic music to me is is is an extension of what a lot of
sometimes uh metal bands are right it's it's very symphonic sounding. There are certain traits in the heavier music,
which is why Rush was always so
important to me, just because
of the structure of what
they did with sound and what Neil Peart
did with a drum kit
where he, you know, he
saw discussion, right?
With, as
all the drums had voices, right? So it
was a choir. the the drum kit
became a choir of sound and he found different ways to put that into you know what alex did and
what uh what getty was doing and you know bringing in the synth and and playing you know the foot
pedals and so on so it's all that collection of sound which i i just have always enjoyed
regardless of of the genre so you know
do i like country music yeah yeah you you hear me playing dwight sometimes i go in the neighborhoods
man and i'm uh i'm cranking dwight and people like kids kids inside now this is this is this
we do we don't we don't like these kinds of people so uh you know it just depends right so i i usually have to make sure that no sunroof is uh interesting though what you just said about uh uh your musical taste in the
you know of obviously the real audiophiles and your music fans gravitate towards bands like
rush like you said and appreciate bands like toulous. I mean, some of the best players in the session,
players of all time.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
It would be really interesting if one of us was to select a Rush
and Toto song tonight.
That would really guarantee that we win.
But I will say that Tesla,
I wanted to talk about Tesla for a second.
Yes, please.
Not Elon Musk, Tesla, the band Tesla.
It's interesting because sort of what you said there, Yes, please. were really shocked that this is the same. Once they heard this other material, they were like,
what the fuck is this?
It blew them away because they also were able to make such a beautiful sort of acoustic.
They're real musicians.
These weren't just Tesla is like underappreciated band
in the sense of their musicianship.
Oh, I agree.
I think that's a great statement.
Funny that their biggest hit is like an acoustic cover of signs musicianship. Oh, I agree. I think that's a great statement. Funny that their biggest hit is like an acoustic cover of Signs.
Yes.
Because they have, you know,
you don't have to appreciate hard rock.
I would call them like a power rock band.
So would I.
So would I, yeah.
But you don't have to appreciate that genre
to appreciate that these guys can play.
And it's funny because I was listening
to this interview by,
not to be harp on Toto,
but Steve Lukather was talking about like heavy metal,
how some of the best players in the world,
you won't even know their name,
but they're in these heavy metal acts because they're doing shit that like,
yeah.
And Tesla is a great example of musicians that are at the top of their,
you know,
these are the top of their class type guys.
I feel like there's like a real athleticism in playing this music.
Cause it's not just technical,
but it's just, it's so fast and so physical.
And in a weird way, I feel like music,
bands like Tesla don't get enough credit
for just being like, it's just fucking fun.
It's fun to listen to.
And like, just you can leave it at that
and it totally works.
And it just, yeah, I feel like people
have somewhat come around on
these sorts of bands since the grungy era when everyone would just sort of lump everyone to
hair metal but i don't know like i just hear like i i'd never heard that song before but like just
immediately hits you just sort of like the energy van halen at first because it has like that kind
of vibe at the top but yeah it's funny because like there's probably a whole episode we
could do on bands that were people don't realize their past like if someone only learned about
chicago in the david foster era and then listen to their older stuff they'd be like what this is
the same band like that's the same oh yeah like doobie brothers too if you only yeah for sure
doobie brothers for sure mike before we get too far from that jam we just listened to the theme is dude where's my jam what's the name of that tesla song edison's medicine as in edison
because of course it's all tied in if you see the video with all the electricity and all the imagery
uh it uh it's sort of interesting coming from a band called tesla they talk about edison and uh but but just you know full transparency i am the worst
person when it comes to the importance of lyrics i barely know happy birthday i know sometimes my
name comes up in it but that's about it my favorite songs of all time and people's like
rush oh wow so so neil's lyrics i'm like right yeah i guess
he penned something i know getty's saying something but i'm just so concentrated on the music that i
really even so karaoke which annoys everyone i think it was but yet i you know if i'm if i'm in
the mood then then i'm doing stuff but if the word if the if if if those words weren't in front of my face, my most famous or favorite song to do I'm lost.
I am, I had to do one, uh, a Neil diamond thing in front of an orchestra, a great orchestra,
you know, all, all the boys with the Sandy and the white colored hair, like a full,
like Frank Sinatra moment was great. Yeah. It just, it just, yeah. Cool dudes like Mike
cooled with a full flow. And, uh, I had to get up there. And, uh, so I like Mike, cool with a full flow. And I had to get up there.
And so I'd had, there was a couple of Buble things.
There was a couple of whatever.
And someone said, you got to do your Neil Diamond.
Don't you do Neil Diamond?
I'm like, sure.
Now it was like, you know, Sweet Caroline, which the whole world knows.
Except for this bozo who really doesn't know know any lyrics at all and i kept saying the same
lyrics over and over people like yeah it's it's a good impression he seems okay but uh
you know there's more than just one line it's not like a stomping tom song
you just keep seeing the same things over and over again so i don't have necessarily the
connection to lyrics that a lot of like really smart people do i'm in the less smart category hey now mike uh soon cam's gonna kick out his first jam but i thought i'd give
stew and cam and myself an opportunity if you guys have a quick question for our special guest
mike richards before we move on with the uh jam kicker sure real quick i just wanted to just pile
on his karaoke comment The worst part about karaoke
Is that there's a second verse
A chorus and a bridge
Because you get
After the person sings the first verse
And then they sing the chorus, the excitement level
It goes off a cliff
After the first chorus
And now I don't want to hear fucking Ed from the fire shop
Sing the rest of Dash Paradise
Under the dashboard or whatever the fuck they're singing.
I think they need like two and a half minutes
versions of every song strictly
for the karaoke.
A version of it.
That's right.
I once heard someone attempt
an immigrant song in karaoke.
It was so uncomfortable to watch
them do like the
part.
Mike, here's a question.
We're live on live.torontomike.com
and VP of Sales wants to know,
does Victor Newman do Neil Diamond?
Victor Newman from Young and the Restless?
So, Stu, I don't know if you're aware of this
because you were in LA when Mike Richards
was kicking ass doing mornings here
in 1050, for example.
Yeah, yeah.
He does a couple.
He does a lot of good. He does good Bob Cole and he does a good Victor Newman.50, for example. Yeah, yeah. He does a couple. He does a lot of good.
He does good Bob Cole, and he does a good Victor Newman.
Oh, my God.
That's right.
Do you want to give us a taste, Mike?
Well, why doesn't someone in the studio ask Victor Newman a question?
Victor Newman will answer.
Let's do that.
Cam, ask Victor Newman a question.
So what's going on this weekend, Victor? What's up,
pal?
Let me tell you something right now.
It's none of your damn business. I don't give a damn
who you think you are sitting there with some
childish background.
Or you're some sort of pedophile school teacher.
Let me tell you something. You do not tell
me and ask me what I'm doing on my
weekend because it's none of your damn business.
You get that straight, right? I'm Victor Newman.
You got that?
That plays really well to your demo.
It has been
the...
And again, Eric Braden
came on the show.
I've been ripping him off
for 25 years.
I feel like he did
Shopper's Drug Mart commercials at some point did he like after did he okay because i know he came up and shot a bunch of those he came
up and shot a bunch so he has a real affinity for toronto like he he loves he loves coming here so
he came up uh came on the show and was you the voice to him oh yeah it was in and i i really
don't get nervous all that much. Fucking Victor Newman?
He's sitting there right there, and he's got the nice white,
the long dark coat and the white collared shirt.
Gentlemen.
And he's trying to knock me off it.
And then we start going at each other in the voice,
and the biggest compliment I got was a guy, Jeff Lumby.
I don't know if you know Jeff Lumby.
I know him.
He's an FOTM, like you said.
Yeah.
So he said, he goes, the biggest compliment I can give you at some point,
I didn't know which guy was talking.
I didn't know which guy was with you.
Oh, wow.
And Eric Braden is just the most fascinating dude.
He's got, look, there's a lot going on with this guy.
His history is unbelievable.
We sat down afterwards because I brought, obviously, champagne.
It's Victor Newman.
I got to bring in the champagne. we sat around probably for about an hour afterwards
just talking uh sipping on champagne occasionally he does call to see how my health is to see how
i'm doing and he always if he doesn't get me the funniest thing is he he he leaves the best message
on the cell phone the most ridiculous really premise for someone of his stature to
leave a message but it's always the same it's like beep my gracious this is eric braden victor
newman from the young and the wrestlers why is he why are you saying that i'm pretty sure
i'm victor newman from the honors i'm going eric i i know and it says like
hollywood on it you know like there's
those different areas studio city or whatever it is like some real one eight or something yeah
it's like some big things like this is victor neiman from the nrs i go you don't you don't
eric you don't have to say i need to say eric that's the greatest thrill of my life is i i
got to do that with him and then um oh god i'm dropping like uh the actress that plays nikki
came on when it was
the team 10 50.
And I have that because she was unaware of it.
I had the baseball cap on backwards in the, in the super long hair and Paul Roman, it
goes, by the way, Victor Newman's here.
And she goes, what are you talking about?
And so Thomas Scott, Melody Thomas Scott.
And so I break into it and she just, she just flips out.
So we do about three and a half minutes of, of, of, of, uh, you know,
back and forth Nikki and Victor. And that was that, you know,
one of my favorite moments in radio that I ever had.
Now, before, before cam kicks out his first jam,
cause we've got to get rolling because, uh, we got it.
We don't want to miss too much of this Leafs game. Can you ask, uh,
can Bob Cole just tell us what's going to happen in game five?
Do the Leafs wrap this up tonight? I'll tell us what's going to happen in game five? Do the Leafs wrap this up tonight?
I'll tell you what's going to happen tonight.
And everyone knows it.
The Leafs, they want to win.
They got their best players out there.
Sundin.
Oh, they're all there.
Puff fan.
They want to win.
Gilmore, he's at it again.
He's behind the net.
You know he can score.
And the Leafs tonight,
with all the power they got,
look at that, 93.
There's Gilmore. He was never afraid
like that, though. You look like a bit of a... Right, Harry?
Looks like it is. Can we get a goal call?
And it's Gilmore.
He's home alone. Scores!
Score!
It's 2-0. And I'll tell you,
Harry, the Canadiens are not
coming back from that. They can
set that parade up Yonge Street all the way
down to Fillmore's.
This town will go crazy.
I think the Bugs Bunny guy
has just found a run for his money.
Oh, yeah.
All right, now we've got
to cook with gas here.
So here's your decision time, Mike.
You can disappear into the abyss.
We loved having you on.
That was fucking amazing.
I'll get you back on Toronto Mike soon
for a proper episode
and you can drop some truth bombs on us,
unless you want to drop one right now.
But your other option is you can stick around while we all kick it.
I want to hear the other truth bombs.
Okay, okay.
So we're going to dive in because we're going to cook with gas now.
Cam, you ready for your first jam, buddy?
Yeah, let it rip.
Let it rip. Let her rip. And if you go down there, you better just beware of a man named Leroy Brown.
Now Leroy, I'm all in trouble.
You see, he stand about six foot four.
All the downtown ladies call him treetop lover.
All the men just call him sir.
And it's bad, bad, Leroy Brown.
The baddest man in the whole damn town.
Better than a whole game car.
Meaner than a junkyard dog.
Now Leroy Brown.
Okay, so that's, of course, Jim Crochet with the AM radio classic Bad Bad.
Leroy Brown, a song up until about five days ago. I always thought the name
was Bad Boy Leroy Brown.
That's weird.
Yeah.
Jim Crochet, of course, well known for this
song.
Jim what? Crochet.
Is that his name?
I think that's it.
I'd say Crochet.
Like Boreas Salming?
Boreas Salming.
That's Boreas.
I think that's a better example, Stu.
Do you guys know
anything about Jim Crochet?
I don't really know much about him.
He died young, right? Car accident?
Jim Crochet, too.
I don't know. Has Mike Cancelera ever been on your show?
No.
A radio guy?
Because Jim Croce and I thought Mike Cancelera.
A young Mike Cancelera looked the same.
Throw that up to your CFNY friends.
Yeah.
I always thought he looked a bit like Frank Zappa.
And he does look like Frank Zappa.
He does look a little like Frank Zappa.
Yeah.
Anyway, it was sort of interesting. Which means Mark Hebger probably likes him.
I know. But does he do heroin, too? Or does that work? Yeah. Anyway, it was sort of interesting. It means Mark Hebger probably likes him. Hey, now.
But does he do heroin, too?
Or does that work?
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
Actually, I think so.
I think that was part of the problem, actually.
I thought he was like straight edge.
Was he not Zappa?
No, no, Zappa.
I'm talking about Jim Crow.
I think, because what's his cause of death?
Remind me.
Did he overdose or did he overdose?
Well, let's just jump right to that fun fact.
Yeah, he was in a plane crash back in 1973.
Looks like about five people died. It was in Louisville.
His plane went down.
Only 30 years old.
Way, way, way, way too uh when we lost uh jim crochet but yeah
it was sort of interesting again because i i i kind of have like a hard time placing him like
who are his contemporaries we know him from like time life collection commercials yeah time in a
bottle for sure he's like a time in a bottle yeah we can almost blame him. We talked about karaoke.
If I see someone get up and going,
my name is Stan,
I work in accounting, no, don't do it.
It's Time in a Bottle or American Pie. I'm like, don't.
American Pie is like,
no.
Jim Croce is like a contemporary of James Taylor,
right? This is like the singer-songwriter.
I like to think of him as the male
Anne Murray.
Well, if you look on Spotify,
the fans also like section,
number one artist is Harry Chapin.
Yeah, that's true.
That's in the cradle.
Speaking of like what hair metal dance covered,
it's covered by what?
Ugly Kid Joe.
Ugly Kid Joe.
Yeah, it's a good comparison between that
and the Signs cover
by Tessa. So here's a bunch
of random fun facts about Jim Croce.
And then just touch your nose when you're done, because I'm going to go
straight into my first jam. I'm going to do it really quickly.
We'll get to this early.
The Northern Lights
force fit. He started out on
Coffee Houses. Two of the artists he liked
to cover most were Canada's Own Garden
Lightfoot, a member of Northern Lights
as well as songs by Ian and Sylvia
who I think were on our Why the Fuck Aren't
They in There
although I feel like Sylvia Tyson might have been
in Northern Lights am I wrong
I thought they were snubbed
that I don't know
question for Stu this you know we're gonna
talk wrestling jams next week
this song has a mention of a junkyard dog in it you know, we're going to talk wrestling jams next week. This song has a mention of a
junkyard dog in it. You know,
grab them cakes and whatnot.
And Bad News Brown. Well, I was going to say
there was also a wrestler named Bad Leroy
Brown. Do you know? Have you heard this guy?
I think that probably was
named after the song, right? Yeah, but
would team with Bad News Brown
at the time going Bad News Allen, which
was his real name. And we're like a tag team
and had some legendary
matches with the
Guerreros, like kind of the older Guerrero
brothers, as well as a team
called the PYTs
featuring Coco
Beware was in it. There you go.
This guy knows his stuff.
Last but not least,
another place we heard a version of this song
Something we've talked about
Probably way fucking too much
1991 Blue Jays album
The Wham Bam Blue Jay Gang
Oh boy
Do you remember that?
Of the era
Bad like Roberto Alomar
How come I don't remember this song?
What was the title?
On the South Side of Toronto.
The Wham Bam Blue Jay Gang.
Oh, sorry.
That was the name of the song.
The name of the artist was Homer Buns.
Yeah, he did a lot of stuff on those albums.
What was the song?
What did they change Bad Leroy Brown to?
This one, I don't have a lot of recollection to this one.
I just heard it was the South Side of Toronto
versus South Side Chicago.
Bad Devon White. Just people taking runs South Side of Chicago. Devon White.
Could be Devon White.
I was watching the Frank
Sinatra special the other night and I forgot
Frank had a version of this
that was... Frank shouldn't have done it.
Like he just...
And you'd say, you know,
because he's bad, bad. I'm like, oh,
you know, it's bad, Frank. Don't you know it's bad frank don't do it frank
although frank can do what he wants no one told frank no i'm jumping into my first jam but quick
question for mike richards were you a big uh coney hatch fan yeah huge okay the last episode of
toronto mike is me talking to andy curran all about he's he's a cool uh dude yeah he's uh really
that's really awesome.
So cue it up, buddy.
You're going to love it.
You're going to love it.
Here's my first jam. The time has long come and gone We have fighters, converse, high cuts
And maybe a new pair of dogs
And I know what I'll do
I'll appeal to their sense of brotherhood.
And when nobody's looking, I'll grab a pen and I'll start looking.
For in these cold, gray days, it's no longer news.
Henry needs a new pair of shoes.
Henry needs a new pair of shoes.
That's a little band we know and love,
The Lowest of the Low.
We haven't heard them on this program in a while.
Okay.
We could have heard two different tracks
for the girl jams from the same album.
The Taming of Carolyn or the...
The Hand of Magdalena.
Yeah, which they played live in this basement,
which was pretty damn cool.
Okay, I'm going to burn through my fun facts.
Everybody, I think, knows at this point,
because I talk about Lois DeLoe a lot,
and Ron Hawkins has been on several times,
but Lois DeLoe formed from the ashes of a Toronto band
called Popular Front.
So that's where Ron Hawkins and Stephen Stanley came from, Popular Front.
Let's see here.
The fun fact about Shakespeare My Butt, which is the album that has this jam on it, is that
it was considered by Ron Hawkins to be a bunch of demos.
They were trying to sell these demos and get a record deal.
That was the idea.
But then I guess they made some copies of these demos for their friends and family.
And someone got, you know, a copy of it to, you know, CFNY 102.1.
And they started playing it.
And then they started playing the fuck out of Shakespeare, my butt.
And next thing you know, of course, it is too late to, you know,
do the proper versions. These demos kind of became the de facto jams from Shakespeare My Butt.
And here's where another FOTM comes into play here. Okay. So they sold, I think, 4,000 copies
of their self-released album, Shakespeare My Butt. And then they struck a distribution deal with page publications and that's when HMV started selling Shakespeare my butt page
publications does anyone know who wrote who ran page publications was it Betty
page diamond Dallas page even page steven pages father Victor royal page Diamond Dallas Page. Steven Page. Steven Page's father, Victor.
Royal LePage.
So think about this, and this is interesting,
because Steven Page's father, Victor Page,
he basically is responsible for this album, Shakespeare My Butt,
being the best-selling independent release in Canadian history.
And who wants to tell me what independent release eclipsed that record and became the new record holder?
Former.
The 1991 Blue Jays album.
How many copies did they sell?
I don't have that number in front of me.
But this is the all-time record?
Are you saying the all-time record or was it beaten?
Again, I'll just get the right, because, you know, semantics
matter here. But, so,
Shakespeare My Butt by Lois Delos
had the record for best-selling
independent release in Canadian history.
That record was beaten
by another band, and I think
it's a particularly fun fact considering it was Victor Page that helped Shakespeare My Butt get that record.
I think we have the correct answer in the chat room.
That is correct.
Okay, so it is the yellow tape by the Barenaked Ladies, which featured Victor's son, Stephen Page.
I'm Alan Cross.
He had a good father. Yes. He had a good father.
Yes.
I want to shout out Steve, who's on the
live chat at live.tronomike.com
and Marcasaur, who's here
and Dan J. Dan J.
actually says that Sylvia Tyson was
one of the chorus members of the Tears
Are Not Enough. Yeah, that's
right. Mike,
now FOTM, Art Bergman alluded to this about appearing on some tracks with Lost in Love.
Do you know what song is, I think, about Art Bergman?
One of the songs on the second album, I believe.
I thought it was solo stuff by Ron Hawkins.
I feel like the song Life,
I think it's called Life Imitates Art.
Do you know that song? I think that's
about Art Bergman. I will find out immediately
because Lawrence Nichols, who's in
Lois Lelow, takes my
calls. In fact, I could probably text you in this episode.
Yeah, Life Imitates Art. I think
about Art Bergman. Stu, what say
you before I kick out your first jam?
Well, I'm going
to try to do something that
has never been done in the history of um
pandemic fridays as people who are longtime listeners of the program know and i know mike
richards for sure follows along uh i am undefeated uh i've won every single week you know i'm uh
i'm an undefeated it's a game you know bringing the goods podcast. It's a fucking game. You know, bringing the goods, I'm a winner. Bullshit.
But I do want to point out, this week, I'm going to do something a little bit differently because people think that I only come and I win because I bring all the hits, right?
So I'm going to try to win this week without playing any billboard hits.
Wow.
Okay, but you're saying you're not going to play any billboard hits.
Just big fucking songs
Songs that charted
In the top 30
You're not gonna hear them
From me
Okay
Can I play this first jam
So people can hear
How foolish you are
Here we go
Yes
Yeah
This might have charted Oh, my Eddie Vedder.
Lemon yellow sun.
Arms raised in a beat.
Debbie!
At home, drawing pictures of mountaintops.
With him on top.
Lemon yellow sun. Arms raising her feet The dead lay in pools of maroon blood
But he didn't give attention
To the fact that money didn't care
King Jeremy, you're wicked
Oh, rule this world
Jeremy's spoken
All right, we know how this song goes.
Let's hear some Stu.
I mean, the song still hits hard, guys.
I mean, you can say what you want.
You can hear it 200 times.
It still hits pretty hard.
And if you turn back the clock to the era when this song would have been heard the most,
there wasn't a bigger, maybe Nirvana would be the only other band.
But Pearl Jam was like, Nirvana and Pearl Jam were the Beatles in the stones
for kids that were in the 90s figuring it out,
smoking cigarettes at school.
And I think Pearl Jam outsold Nirvana.
They probably did, and Pearl Jam obviously still touring
and still very much a part of popular culture.
You know, Pearl Jam, the song's called Jeremy.
We know that.
It's a song about a guy.
All right. Let's get to the point here.
Where do you
think that this charted? You guys are so confident
that this is such a big hit. This has been played
on Pandemic Fights before, and we've had this
discussion before, so I'm not going to... Have we played
Jeremy before? We did. I think we have.
I think we have. Because you were wrong last
week. We had the grunge episode.
Even
a clock is right
twice a day.
You're right, because with
Nirvana
being, you know,
maybe the king at that time,
if you had to, you know, if it was like UFC,
who was one, two?
Pearl Jam, I mean,
it was so huge.
I couldn't have believed that this would not be.
So this is what, 1990?
90s, we'll call it.
Well, 91 is when 10 comes out.
91, the song came out, but let's see how it charted.
So it's funny, I'm in the spreadsheet to find out if we kick this out before I see Tyler Campbell.
VP of Sales is also in the spreadsheet.
Okay, that's nice.
It was played in the back to school episode.
I say 32.
32.
You think 32?
I'm going to say...
I can't believe it wouldn't have gotten the top 20.
Was it released as a single?
I guess it was.
I'm going to say it was because you've already told us it didn't go top 30.
So I'm going to say 45.
I mean, I'm really reaching here, guys, for songs that are like scrubs.
And this song peaked on the Billboard Hot 100 at number 79.
Wow.
Wow.
That sounds weird.
Well, it was a big radio hit and a big rock hit and a big alternative hit.
But on the Hot 100, it didn't.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
And a big video hit, too.
This was huge on MTV.
If you wanted to get this song as a single when it
came out you couldn't even get it because it wasn't officially released as a single because
it was uh it was an you'd have to buy that import the yellow lead better sort of import oh yeah
hardcore fans would know about here's the funny story about this song it checks some boxes for us
we love this when the bass player writes songs we always harp on it
love it written by written by the bass player jeffa ment wrote the music here for jeremy so
we love it already we also love it when songs were like almost not on the album and become the band's
signature song pearl jam jeremy another one of those songs that wasn't necessarily their favorite
but uh they ended up putting it on the album. The record company...
Epic.
The interesting story was
the original music video director
to do the first Pearl Jam sort of album
was given the album and said,
like, here, you pick a song
that you want to do the video for.
And he picked Jeremy.
And the record label was like,
no, no, no, that's not a single.
And the band was so adamant
that that's what they wanted to do. The record label was like, well, we're no, that's not a single. And the band was so adamant that that's what they wanted to do.
The record label was like, well, we're not funding it.
So Pearl Jam paid for it themselves, and they went and shot this video,
which never came out in America.
And then many years later, another video,
the single was officially released in 95, actually,
because the popularity of the video that we all know,
which was a second video, which is one of the most controversial videos, which shows Jeremy, the student in the thing coming in with the gun and he kills himself.
And very, very controversial.
Mark Pellington, ironically, who I've just sort of befriended in the last few weeks.
He was the director of the of the video that we've all seen that won the best video of the year and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
So anyway, Pearl Jam, Jeremy,
Great Jam, number 79 on the chart.
I will not be playing hits tonight, guys.
I'm going to win without hits.
I'll just say that's so confusing.
And yeah, I remember when the actual video was released, it was like, what,
two years ago or something.
Reading about then, it was so fucking confusing.
Like just the kind that a lot of what Stooge is outlining.
So wait, time out, time out.
The video we all know from...
The video we all know?
The video we don't all know is the first video.
Okay, so the video we all know is the second video for Jeremy.
Yes, correct.
I'm not sure I remembered that.
Okay, interesting.
The one that probably cost more money, right?
And that's the one they financed it.
Yeah, they financed that themselves.
Is that what you're saying? Pearl Jam? Yeah, the record company was like,
we want nothing to do with this.
I feel like Nirvana in Bloom was
almost the opposite of that. Because remember, there was
like two versions. Like they had kind of
guys walking around version. Then
they had the Ed Sullivan kind of gimmick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just want to say hi to Joe Garu
because Joe Garu writes, Mike Richards in the house. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just want to say hi to Joe Guru because Joe Guru writes,
Mike Richards in the house.
Wow.
Amazing.
Good to see him join the pandemic Friday.
Holy Trinity.
I am just so you know,
I'm now able to have Ryan Ginger after two months.
So I am.
Tell us.
And then it is,
it's people.
Well,
is the whole glass that?
Yeah, it is.
Well, tell us.
Tell us what you're talking about.
You had, I mean, listeners of the program know,
but remind us what your surgery was and how it went.
Well, this will be a showstopper.
This is.
We'll go back into the palace.
Okay.
Yeah.
We'll have to go.
What does this have to do with CP24? Yeah. I was going to say, maybe it'll be on into the palace. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We'll have to go. What does this have to do with CP 24?
Yeah.
I was going to say,
maybe,
maybe it'll be on CP 24 soon.
It was,
so there was a rectal cancer six years ago.
And so they went in,
they,
they took out the tumor.
Then I had,
you know,
an ostomy bag for,
for six years and a lot of construction and then reconstruction,
a reversal two months ago where they changed
all that stuff they got rid of all kinds of things and they put me all back together again
and so now i am functioning for the first time uh well to be to be honest because there was cancer
kind of snuck in there beforehand that i was on before i went to calgary probably before i went
to calgary to do the fan and so this is probably the healthiest I've been since probably Pearl Jam came out with that song.
Since the second video came out.
Yeah, that's right.
So yeah, doing well.
Okay, good to hear, man.
God bless.
We root for you, Mike.
We love you here, man.
Cam, anything to say,
or can I kick out your second jam?
Just a final comment about Jeremy not being
a single. I feel like it wasn't
supposed to be on the album as a bit of
like the person becomes
a model. I was discovered at the local mall.
I was just walking around.
I feel like there's a bit of showmanship
in it. Anyway.
Who knows? But
this song coming up, another guy's name that starts with jay right
creepy fucking song yeah yeah i fucking love this song
don't get i got a good story
about this song by the way
in the video
I got a great story
about the video
I got a great story
in the video I get defensive
I know you heard it all before
So I don't say it anymore
I just stand by and let you fight your secret war
And though I used to wonder why So this, of course, Joey, if you're hurting so much
So this, of course, is Concrete Blonde, Joey.
A fun fact that I...
Often mistaken as like a heart song.
It has like that 80s heart stuff.
Yeah, and kind of the Wilson sister vocals.
Before I forget, one of the most confusing things ever,
the singer of Concrete Blonde, Jeanette
Napolitano. Not to be confused
with the former governor of Arizona,
Janet Napolitano.
Or a wrestling book author.
This is where my confusion came in.
This is what I was confused about.
Okay.
Well, we cleared it up. Sorry, who's the
wrestling guy?
George Napolitano. That's like
the wrestling biographer. Who's that?
Okay, I don't even know what that is.
Save it for next week. Is no one seriously going to mention
the pizza? Is no one really going to mention the pizza
in this discussion?
Napolitano pizza?
No one's going to say this? Are there no Italians here?
We're a Palma Pasta show
so we don't mention it.
He knows what i'm oh
he knows what i'm talking about okay um this song night went to number 19 on the billboard hot 100
pretty big big charting position for something that was kind of like an ultra rock song even
bigger hitting camp this song was what went to number four in canada like huge we loved it we love our hit than jeremy it well in 99 and in 19 was this 91 i think uh yeah well actually 1990 spring 1990 okay so
uh at that time i'm working at 99.9 at that time it was called ckfm and so i'm my the guys the
morning is jerry forbes and and i'm the co-host
and so they asked me to go on a cbc show called video hits of course with samantha taylor right
samantha taylor started and then a guy named brian elliott came on and they kind of paired us up the
first show i'm on and i look just ridiculous i mean it, it is. If you see what I'm wearing,
I just don't know what I was thinking. There was no booze involved.
So I can't even blame it on that.
And the first video we get to
is the first one he throws to.
Is Joey. So
when I hear that, I think of that moment
shooting outside with Brian doing
the CBC video hits. And it's just funny
that you picked that up. Because it actually was a great
moment. It was around this time of year. It uh sort of uh in you know June-ish or
whatever and people say do you remember the song do I remember the song you should see what I was
wearing you were in the video no but it's more about me I'm talking right now so so it was it
I'm glad you brought that up because that's kind of fun today the the next host of video hits was
Dan Gallagher after Brian yeah after Brian Dan Gallagher. After Brian. Yeah, after Brian.
And Dan Gallagher was remembered in yesterday's episode of Andy Curran,
the Coney Hatch episode,
because Andy and Dan were good buds.
Dan was awesome.
Remember Test Pattern?
Yeah, Test Pattern.
Test Pattern was hilarious.
That was fun.
The hairy back brothers?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so back on track here.
Any more fun facts about Concrete Blonde Joey?
I got four.
I'm going to burn through them, okay?
Okay, this song was about a guy named Mark.
It was an ex-lover of Jeanette Napolitano,
a guy named Mark Marlin,
who was in the band Wall of Voodoo. Who did Mexican Radio.
Mexican Radio, Kramer's favorite song.
That's right.
First band on the soundtrack of Pump Up the Volume.
Wow.
Concrete Blonde covering Everybody Knows.
Everybody Knows.
By Leonard Cohen.
Oh, is that the guy who did the Sopranos theme song?
Yes.
It's the guy who was shunned from being in Northern Lights.
A couple more fun facts.
We talk a little bit about Beverly Hills 90210.
This song was famously featured in an episode in the first season
called One Man and a Baby, where Brandon's dating a teenage mom.
Wow.
And Stu's not in that episode, right?
That's not Stu's episode.
Also in that same episode was Steve Sanders,
played by Ian Ziering, doing a version of
La Cucaracha,
which I'm guessing probably hasn't aged well.
And last but not least,
last week we heard
Dan Steele's bop, Stu's like,
I've not fucking heard of this piece of shit
in 35 years. I did not say
piece of shit ever. I love this song.
This track.
When I was doing research for this,
I don't know if you guys remember the album
No Talking Just Heads.
Or Just Head by the Heads.
Do you remember this?
It was like Talking Heads
without David Byrne.
Oh.
Yeah, they put this album
No Talking Just Heads.
In 1996. Anyway, there was one single there's one
single that cfny played a song called damage i was done damage i done with vocals by jeanette
napolitano does anyone remember this it's no i i'm the comment section someone maybe i think at
that point i would have been listening to the lawrence gowan album okay probably i need to
just say a few things here,
which is that quick story.
My mom used to live on this little street in the West end of Toronto.
She only lived there like a year,
but on that street was a guy,
Luciano Casamiri.
I hope I said his name right.
He was the guy like the,
who co-hosted a test pattern with Dan Gallagher.
Do you remember this guy,
Luciano?
He had something to do with new kids in the hall too. i think he was the guy was he the guy in the fucking towel
who would walk out on kids oh you know what you know that's a good guess though i mean i think
it's him that sounds it sounds familiar sorry i totally remember that like you'd hand him like
cue cards yeah okay so just to put a bow on this story quickly is one day one day dan gallagher was
visiting his friend luciano in the street and dan walked by and he commented on my mom's sprinkler
and he said that's a cool sprinkler dan fucking gallagher those are words he said in my direction
what a story i never i never forgot so quickly though people are very excited about my wish that
i can forget that's time we'll never get to jump off the Scarborough Bluffs right now and be fine.
People are very excited that Mike Richards' health is so good here.
Canada Kev says, great news, Mike.
I'll drink to that.
BPSL says, cheers, Mike.
Dan Jays says, happy to hear that news, Mr. Richards.
Steve says, here's to Mike Richards and his continued good health.
Moose Grumpy says really really great to hear
Mike Canada Cavend says
Joey Thornton baby
that song Joey he wants to dedicate it to Joe Thornton
but uh
oh okay and I fucked up it's Paul
Bellini who's in Kids in the Hall not
Paul Bellini not Luciano
Casimiri I get them mixed up all the time
I just want to point out that Mike's story about
Gallagher liking his mom's sprinkler
officially surpasses
Cam's story of running into Rock Vizina
at a shopper's drug mart.
It was Elvis
Stoico at a future shop.
Returning a forehead VCR, right?
I wish I saw.
Be careful with Elvis because
he knows stuff.
Don't mock him.
Don't fuck with Elvis.
Are you done your Joey fun facts?
Can I kick out my second jam?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
It makes it easier.
Easier to me.
You won't regret it, no, no
Young girls, they don't forget it
Love is their only happiness
Sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet
Don't leave her, don't leave her
I invented sweat
Popping bottles, putting supermodels in a cab
Proof, I guess I got my swagger back
Truth, new watch alert
Heel blows, or the big face rollie I got Alright, I'll bring it. New watch alert. New blows.
Oh, the big face rolly I got.
All right, I'll bring it down to get you the fun facts here.
But this, of course, this is Otis.
Produced by Kanye West, of course.
And this is Jay-Z and Kanye West.
Jay-Z.
That's right, Jay-Z.
That's true.
Yes, it is.
You're right.
This is Canada.
It's been 10 fucking years since i watched the throne uh project came out which i think is amazing
because it feels fresher than that but i've been 10 years since the two of them have been friends
right uh that is that is quite possible too did you ever meet jay zed or uh kanye west mr stone
i have uh we've talked about this before.
Okay, well, remind us quickly.
Yeah, so Jamie Kennedy and I were trying to get –
we were recording this hip-hop comedy rap kind of thing that we were working on.
And before we were getting any attention,
we were trying to put our demo in the hands of anybody.
And we found out that Jay-Z was doing a photo shoot for his rock aware fashion line and
jamie was able to nab an invitation for him and i to go so there's this magazine spread that me and
jamie are in with jay-z uh but we ended up getting some alone time with him in his trailer and that
was our opportunity to sort of slip him the cd and tell him what we were doing and both of us
chickened out and we ended up just talking to him about basketball.
And then he left.
But he was very friendly and very cool.
That's cool to hear.
That's a good story.
So this song peaks at number 12 on the Billboard Hot 100, though.
And all over the song, I mean, all over the song is Otis Redding's Try a Little Tenderness.
Which is an awesome song in itself.
Yeah, but you're right.
It's a fucking amazing song.
But I started, like, digging into the Try a Little Tenderness, which was Otis Redding, like you're right. It's a fucking amazing song. But I started like digging into the Try a Little Tenderness,
which was Otis Redding, like a big jam.
And I learned that that song was originally recorded by the Ray Noble Orchestra
back in 1932.
Wow.
And then several artists record this well before Otis Redding,
including Bing Crosby.
So even Bing Crosby, a lot of artists cover this well before Otis Redding, including Bing Crosby. So even Bing Crosby, a lot of artists cover this.
But Otis, once he does it, it's like
it becomes Otis. You're right. So when
Otis does it, and then...
But I will say as an Irish
person, if you watch The Commitments, that's also
a brilliant, beautiful song.
It's big in The Commitments.
That's really where it comes from. It's from Ireland.
The greatest things in the world come from Ireland. Gage's was in the commitment. You fucking bastards you're talking about, but that's really where it comes from. It's from Ireland. Like a lot of the greatest things in the world
come from Ireland.
Dejah was actually from Dublin.
I heard that.
Yeah.
Well, it's funny because you joke,
but like, you know, rock and roll
before it hit in America,
Little Richard was touring with the Beatles
and the Stones all over Europe
and Russia and wherever.
Like they were, those audiences
were taking to rock and roll before here.
Okay, so the song Otis by Jay-Z and Kanye West,
that peaks at number 12 on the Billboard Hot 100.
I'm doing this without hits, but go ahead.
Where do you think Try a Little Tenderness by Otis Redding,
where do you think that peaks on the Billboard Hot 100?
Number five.
I bet did not chart.
Okay, what about you, Mr. Richards?
Maybe there was like racism still.
Yeah, I was going to say,
the chart would have been filled full of like Pat Boone
and like anybody.
Bucky Webster.
That wasn't, I would think that it would have been
on a separate chart.
So if it didn't chart, I would say that would be technically correct.
A lot of black artists had hit number one by 1966.
But it was number, I believe it was number 25.
I'm just going to check my notes.
Yeah, so it peaked at number 25, which I just find interesting
because it makes a lot of, like if a lot of people come up with,
I don't know, their top 50 songs of all time,
Try a Little Tenderness makes a lot of those lists,
and it only peaked at number 25.
I don't even know if it's his most famous song, to be honest with you.
It's probably like his fourth or fifth most famous song.
So what would you say is his most famous song?
Dock of the Bay?
Dock of the Bay is probably his most famous song.
But Dock of the Bay was massive.
That's posthumous.
Yeah, that was massive.
But that was, yeah, it's hard to argue with that song,
but that was released posthumously. Whereas Try A Little Tenderness,
Otis got to play.
It was in a movie.
It was in like 16 Candles or something.
Is that, you mean like at the end?
The Commitment.
It's like a big dance.
No, they're like in one of the,
like John Hughes movies,
like John Cryer dances to this song.
Oh, that would be pretty in pink.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like something like that i feel like
so you said that that the original verse or the that version was 66 yeah 66 because it did hard
to handle that was a big one hard yeah yeah well otis has a bunch of great songs so if you look at
so california dreaming was number one 96 tears was two what becomes of the brokenhearted when i
worked at 10 50 chum when it was was called Favorites of the Brokenhearted.
He's so professional when he talks, isn't he?
I hate it.
I didn't even like, you know, most of the songs
because I had to come on and I'm a kid
and I have to talk about
What Becomes of the Brokenhearted and Jimmy Ruffin.
I was like, hey, hey, hey, that was a great one.
What am I talking? I don't even know what I'm talking about.
I couldn't spell it.
I didn't know a lot of these songs like cherish the association like a massive song but when you're 25
right you really don't want to be playing this at 3 30 in the morning uh even the young rascals
it's like you know guys could go on at night they're like grooving they're good loving a good
loving good love and then you're sitting there going boy i'm really drinking
i'm just dreaming about booze and prostitution at that point it's 3 30 in the morning i'm just like
could could a a girl with too much cough syrup uh who just knock on the window this is what i
thought because it was it was late it was awful to play songs from the 60s and 70s in 1986 on the air that
was that was tough but i'm surprised that you know uh again looking at some of these big hits
like reach out i'll be there four tops big song right i mean that i get but number 25 you're
saying that's interesting yeah now uh stew you like to say words before I kick out your jam.
Sure. I'm just going to continue steamrolling these fucking guys with songs that are not hits.
And, you know, here's a song that's like barely a hit. Do people even know this song?
Hey, that's not fair. He's getting two. too. Nice choice, Stewstone.
Yeah, I mean, let's just get it out of the way right now like where
did this song chart in uh in the united states of america on the billboard hot 100
76 yeah i was gonna say that it wouldn't have been it pretty good it did pretty good but uh
not top not top 20 no way not top 30 even and Not top 40 even. I'd say like 69.
Number 44, which is
pretty impressive for a Canadian three-piece.
But not a hit
by the standard of the top
30 or top 20 format. How about in
Canada? Where did
it peak on the Canadian charts?
You are so fucking smug.
How? Where did it peak in Canada?
Look at that.
As a single, unless you're i mean
q107 in this era i mean you're gonna have to look to those kind of the canadian chart i'm just gonna
save you the guesswork because the leafs are going to be playing in 50 in 49 minutes number 24 on the
canadian chart yeah and like like mike richards said q107 has been dining on this jam for everybody
has a fucking classic song and Rush is a classic band,
and this is a signature song for them.
And it sounds great.
We just love songs that are written by bass players.
But I will say that there is a fun fact about this song,
that there was a collaboration here.
This was written by Geddy and Neil and Alex of Rush,
along with a lyricist that they had brought in
for this particular tune,
because this song is actually based on a poem.
Would you believe it if I told you,
not Kim Mitchell.
Oh, Piedubois.
Yes, Piedubois.
Oh, wow.
Max Webster.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Wrote the lyrics for Tom Sawyer.
He also wrote other songs with Rush,
Force 10,
Between Sun and Moon,
Test for Echo.
So there's a bunch of Rush collaborations.
And how about this?
Tom Sawyer...
Sorry about that.
Whose phone is that?
Tom Sawyer.
Definitely.
His name was mentioned earlier.
Tom Sawyer came...
Tom Sawyer came about...
Apologize.
Tom Sawyer came about
after a
summer rehearsal
Is that Kanye?
You can tell us.
Summer rehearsal vacation that Rush
spent at Ronnie Hawkins Farm.
Wow.
That's where he was presented with
the poem Louis the Lawyer
that turned into
the warrior Tom Sawyer.
Wow.
And they survived the weekend going to Ronnie's place.
So I give them credit just for that.
Did he sell that place?
Did he sell it?
Ronnie.
I think, yeah.
Ronnie, I think, sold the house that Caligula built, or whatever you want to call it.
Is that like a real year or something?
Freddie P's been there.
Did you get the fucking phone. Turn off your fucking phone.
I think.
No, I mean, you look at the...
You know, you start talking about Rush.
See, that's the only time,
and maybe this is for another show,
but when you're caught off guard
by a celebrity who passes.
So sometimes we're on live
and I've never, I
almost got caught once when
you may have known Brian
Budd, or Bud Gz, he was known.
The great footballer here from Canada.
And it was
during the news, and he was a good friend of mine, I was
in Calgary, and as soon as I heard,
they saw that I was not going to make it.
So I left the air a little
bit early. But the news of Neil Peart, I knew it was coming. And, uh, I, you know, I was going to talk about
it. I was going to play La Villa de Strangiato because that was, that was one of the first songs
that, I mean, that, that was it for me. Once I heard that I was done. And so I started talking
about it and it goes on for about five minutes. Actually it's on YouTube. It's the only time
I just couldn't make it. I couldn't, I started and i couldn't make it and then i tell the story of
my relationship with the peer family how odd that was that i designed my drum kit i designed every
band that i was in to be rush double kick played it for 13 years you had the chimes you had the
bells you had everything and of all things they moved to Stouffville Ontario
his sister comes in and walks into my high school and sort of the rest is that story but um the the
the impact that that band had on people uh and Neil on many levels and people will talk about
the lyrics but for me it was the orchestration of that uh band that it was life-changing and and
I'm one of the millions and certainly one of the
many Canadians and and even so those in the GTA in Toronto that take that such great pride and
ownership over absolute music brilliance wow I I would I would guess that that'll be sort of the
biggest outpouring of uh grief for the death of a canadian drummer just because of yeah like you said what
meant to so some yeah possibly any drummer just because of the breadth of this guy's talent but
jeremy taggart hasn't passed away yet so uh you know the night is he's hanging on i heard he's
just hanging on though by by a thread um well i i think i shared this before. My dad claims, I shouldn't say this because I'm not sure it's true,
but that Geddy Lee has been known to frequent the Miller Tavern
in Hogs Hollow, formerly Jolly Miller.
His friend lives across the street from there, my dad's friend, that is.
And apparently Geddy Lee can be seen there from time to time
in the Miller Tavern.
So there you go.
That is a fun fact. Hey, Dale Cadeau just showed up on the live chat.
Mike, I know he's a big fan of your show. So shout out to Dale Cadeau.
All the way from, from BC, which is nice.
Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah. He's out on the West Coast. He's the one who told us we were not playing the right,
who's the country artist we didn't play?
Speaking of playing, the Leafs are going to be playing...
Here's a third jam from Cam.
Tell me you put money on it.
Please tell me you put money on it.
I'm a place in my bets.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Love this song.
We're only making plans for Nigel. For Nigel.
We only want what's best for him
We're only making plans for Nigel
Nigel just needs that helping hand
When the young Nigel says he's happy
He must be happy, he must be happy
He must be happy in his world
Okay, making plans for Nigel, the band XTC.
From what I can tell, they're the first international act
that ever played at The Edge,
the club that was famously booked by FOTM.
I forget, Mike, are both Gary's FOTMs?
Both Gary's are FOTMs.
Okay, by famous Canadian or Toronto concert legends, the Gary's.
I didn't realize this is actually from XTC's third album, which is September 1979.
They were very prolific for a band that almost seemed very obscure
because they haven't toured in a million years.
From the album Drums and Wires,
I feel like 1236 has maybe talked about, if not this song, this band,
because this was actually a pretty big hit in canon
and would get a
lot of airplay on the aforementioned one,
one Oh,
uh,
or chum,
what chum?
Okay.
10,
50 at that time,
you know,
so I would think that,
and,
and why would I thought would have been on this?
And now it would have been also chum FM was was actually labeled at that time toronto's toronto's
rock yeah chum fm would play this chum fm was was the rock station until okay maybe that's what it
was till the mid 80s could have been okay um but hold on number 12 hit in canada like i was surprised
to see a chart so high but i saw like a scan on the actually Canadian archives. I just Googled to confirm this is true.
And right in the Government of Canada website,
an old chart that showed.
I saw it in the new music.
I saw it in the new music, you know,
because a lot of times, obviously pre-March Music,
it was Jeannie Becker and J.D. Roberts.
And I saw XTC, like the first time I was introduced to it,
I was still in high school, was the new music.
But for sure CFNY was playing a lot of XTC. Yeah.. But for sure, CFNY was playing a lot of XTC.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, and obviously had a lot of XTC.
I mean, they were playing a lot of a wide variety back then.
Lawrence Gowan, we mentioned.
He was played on CFNY.
All the time references, Mike is like this.
Larry Gowan playing honky-tonk piano.
It's the most incredible thing you've ever seen. He's the man. I mean, I'm not making fun of Larry Gowan playing honky-tonk piano? It's the most incredible thing you've ever seen.
He's the man.
I mean, I'm not making fun of Larry Gowan.
Larry is a freaking talent.
And I've never seen a family that plays piano,
but honky-tonk is hard to play.
It's like both feet are going at the same time that the hands are going.
It looks like the piano is going to explode.
I mean, we saw him play at Mel Lastman Square, Cam.
And, you know, when he busted out
Moonlight Desire, we were both howling.
We literally tried to get
a mosh pit going when all the
families were not impressed.
Summer nights.
Summer nights back at the...
There's a whole sub...
There's a line in here. It's about, you know,
a story about a boy. His old future is sealed. He's going to get a job at British Steel. There's a whole sub it there's a there's a line in here it's about you know a story about a boy is his all future sealed he's gonna get a job at british steel there's a whole sub angle
where like i think it was like andy partridge or no it was alan molding who's in uh xtc was
actually interviewed by a trade publication that in the steel industry in the uk specifically
something about this there's a whole section of their Wikipedia
you can read on at your own time,
but XTC being profiled in a trade publication
about the UK steel industry.
And there was a Judas Priest.
They had an album called British Steel.
Am I imagining that?
That sounds right.
I feel like I'm conflating all my fun facts here.
And the last fun fact, strangely, is just they're from Swindon in Wilshire in the UK.
Grew up very close to where Stonehenge is.
Wow.
So do that information while you will.
That's all my fun facts.
You guys had way more information than I did.
I had nothing.
Zero.
We brought the heat here.
And you mentioned research.
I said, research?
What is that?
Is this a new thing now? Because I don't have that. It's like brought the heat here. And you mentioned research. I said, research? What is that? Is this a new thing now?
Because I don't have that.
It's like going back to school.
Rodney Dangerfield.
Okay.
So I'm kicking out a jam.
A little different than some of the jams we've heard.
Let me play it and then I'll talk about it. Thank you. At the cold streets below Traffic lights
Stopping everyone here
I'm seeing David sitting in the middle
As he lost his mind
For only time will tell
He's dipped in gasoline
And his father's so obscene
Mother's got a gun
No love for anyone
Are you listening?
Are you listening?
Because then I am Yet still I am
Trying to figure out if I know this song.
Yeah, I totally know what this is.
Because it sounds like seven different bands.
I know.
One of seven different artists.
I'm with you.
I really like it.
I just, I can't name it. I've loved this song since the first time I heard it One of seven different artists. I'm with you. I really like it. I just can't name it.
I've loved this song since the first time
I heard it on the after. Can I try to guess?
Yeah, go ahead.
I'm trying to place this. Oh, you want me to
turn it up again? Okay.
Good luck with that. Here we go.
Like a filter, maybe?
I don't know. I give up.
Now, we have reference.
I reference this band all the time.
Whenever another band comes up, and this other band that comes up is a band all,
I don't know about Mike Richards, but the rest of us enjoy talking about.
It's not Train.
You're kind of close.
Yeah, it sounds.
You're close only because another big hit by this band is Toy Train.
Oh, really? That's why you're close. Okay, big hit by this band is toy train oh really that's why you're
close okay so whenever we talk about head double h head okay so broken social scene is that what
it is no whenever we talk about double h head i always make the joke because i stole it from
these guys that head has two h's because they took the h that was missing in rhymes with orange
rhymes with orange that's right toy train is a great song yeah toy train is no toy train is a Head has two H's because they took the H that was missing in Rhymes with Orange.
Rhymes with Orange.
That's right.
Toy Train is a great song, too. Yeah, Toy Train is a great fucking jam.
This is my favorite.
Rhymes of Orange again.
His vocals sound so familiar.
His tone and his vocal.
He could do karaoke to a bunch of different songs.
So Rhymes of Orange has no H in it.
So take the H out of Rhymes of Orange if you're Googling this band.
This is a Vancouver band, so
shout out to all the people in Vancouver
listening to us today. True
indie band, like true indie band.
They got four albums under their belt.
Four albums
under their belt. If you
hear a little, do you hear any Madchester
sound at all? Because
they have a bit of a Madchester sound,
Rhymes of of orange and i always
think it's because that lead singer you're hearing lyndon johnson who sounds like a president but
lyndon johnson lyndon johnson hey kicked out in pf01 apparently we did i kick this one out so let
me know vps sales which rhymes of orange song was it this one because then i'm awfully predictable
i've always loved this song.
But apparently I kicked it out in the first pandemic.
So he's from the UK.
Lyndon Johnson is from the UK.
This is a Canadian band, but he emigrated from UK.
I'll just tell you this really quickly.
Wasn't he also president of the United States?
Yeah, that was B, Bowles, I think.
Lyndon B. Johnson was president.
JFK had a problem and then Johnson took over.
He was shot in the head that was speaking of head yeah let's talk about that yeah this song is from 1994 the album is
called trapped in the machine great album it had toy train on it this jam and it sold a whopping
60 000 copies in this country which uh stewstone will laugh at because his album sold 300,000 copies.
I'm not laughing.
I think it's great.
Listen, if you can sell six copies of your album, then God bless you.
It's solid.
What's the name of this song, Mike?
Oh, I didn't mention that yet.
This song is called Taking of David.
Taking of David by Rhymes of Orange.
You're welcome.
And this band seems like when you search them online and stuff,
fairly obscure considering how much I remember hearing them on the radio in the mid-90s.
They had another single that could have been a fit for this episode.
A single called Marvin.
Yes.
No, that's another radio single that they had.
Marvin.
Yes. They had a few jams. Underrated band, I think.
So, VPSAO says maybe
it was not an official selection in the first
Pandemic Friday, but we did play.
I probably, something probably triggered it in
my head and I probably went to YouTube.
Talk to us about your third jam, Stu Stone.
Yes. It is the summertime
coming up, right? And I want to get
people prepped for summer with this next pick because, you know, there is a genre of music that is very, very conducive to the weather and being out on the being out on the lake, so to speak.
I will say that, again, I'm not bringing hits this week.
I'm just winning with some good, honest musicianship.
You know, so far I've played bands that have been pretty good musicians.
And this one, I think we may have mentioned this band once or twice before on pandemic Friday,
but go ahead and play this jam. Oh, this is a fantastic song.
I'm glad you said that. It is. It is.
Y'all rock, right? The live versions, the live versions, tremendous. It's not your situation. I just need contemplation. All the time.
Y'all rock, right?
The live version's tremendous.
Yeah, it's so good.
I'm not so systematic.
It's just that I'm an addict all the time.
I'm nothing alone at home, dude.
I never ever should have told you you're my only girl. Let's hear some Stu.
Yeah, this is a band, a little outfit known as Toto.
This song is called Georgie Porgy.
It is featuring disco queen Cheryl Lynn.
We didn't get to her part, but that's the part that most Toto fans don't like.
But the rest of the song is pretty smooth, man.
This is a pretty smooth track.
Steve Lukather, I think this is the first song that he ever did the lead vocals on.
And they sort of discovered they have this diamond in the rough in him
because there are other vocalists in the band Toto that are powerful vocalists.
But he is he shines in this one.
And if you if if you listen to this blind, you might think this is a cool in the gang song or something like that.
It's like so smooth.
So awesome.
I love Benson.
Yeah.
And ironically, George Benson, Steve Lukather and the member of Toto's were the band that played on all of George Benson's hits that you know.
It's a great choice because these players were at the time, half of them were playing, whether it was Springsteen.
Like you could have named the artist of the time.
Half the band would go and play because they were the best players on the planet at the time jeff uh was
jeff uh carol yeah was the uh such an inch i mean his his in and from a very famous musical family
by the way like a really famous father and his brother father his brother like all of his
brothers were in toto at one time yeah just incredible and and things like um you know uh so rosanna right so drummers will go to what they
call a shuffle right so that he came you know what i mean it's you know it's just it is pristine
playing this song as heavy as my music always was in school you know i put this on
in stillville ontario during one of the parties and the girls would like it.
And the guy's like, dude, what are you doing?
What is this?
Stu liked it.
I love it.
I want to say that it's so good.
But let's just get something really,
just to give you like a family tree that's like really interesting
and that'll be my fun fact.
And I've brought this up before,
but I think this is more for Mike and I
to bond more than anything else.
I'm ready.
So the start of this family tree starts with the Steve Miller Band, where Steve Miller Band, the guitar player, a gentleman named Boz Skaggs.
Boz Skaggs goes out on his own and starts his own thing, and he needs a band.
So he recruits the band that would end up becoming Toto.
This song, Georgie Porgie, would have been a song
that would have fit in quite nicely with Boz Skaggs.
A hundred percent.
It sounds like a Boz Skaggs song.
So if there's ever any sort of assurance that, like,
the Toto guys picked up a thing or two working with Boz Skaggs,
this song is an exemplary example, if that's even a real phrase, of that. Their time spent
with Boz was not for nothing because
it produced a couple more songs,
but this particularly, Boz would
have crushed this one. And I personally,
I think Steve Lukather
is a better singer than Boz Skaggs, so
that's just me. But it's
just an interesting family tree. It's also
incestuous. Even you
referenced
the Procaros, Jeff Procaro on drums. It's just an interesting family tree. It's also incestuous. Even you referenced the.
The Procaros.
The Procaros.
Yeah.
Jeff Procaro on drums and the Rosanna beat.
And the influence that he had was the drummer that played on all the Steely Dan records that, you know.
And of course.
Is this Y'all Rock 2?
And of course, we know that Michael McDonald and Steve Lukather and all these guys
played with on
a lot of those big sort of
Steely Dan records
it's all so incestuous
I have a question and I don't know if you would know this
or how anyone would know this but I'm just
curious did all the
Toto guys did they are they just like
filthy filthy rich by the
sheer volume of like massive
cellars they played on it's just like filthy, filthy rich by the sheer volume of like massive sellers they played on?
It's just like a thriller.
They were on Thriller.
It depends on whether they wrote songs or whether they just played on songs.
Well, they wrote some Thriller jams.
Half of them are dead anyway.
Half of them aren't even alive.
Like it's a sad story.
Oh, OK.
There's probably they probably they got paid session fees for these.
Sure.
Look at a guy like Steve Lukather.
He's got a thousand sessions.
Michael McDonald, a thousand sessions. these guys were no residuals there though
and but there is residuals though for like live performances and stuff like that so there may
have been but who wrote the songs on thriller from this band like who uh well it was a combination
but they did human nature yeah uh was written by the members of Toto. There was Baby Be Mine, I believe.
But also Steve Lukather played all the guitar parts
with the exception of the solo on Beat It.
He played on Thriller.
They all played on Thriller.
I mean, Thriller sold a shit ton of fucking units, right?
Well, go to Thriller.
Quincy Jones' go-to guys are the same guys
that were David Foster's go-to guys,
are the same guys that were every...
Okay, so one more thing before cam kicks out a spinal jam,
a stew,
are you aware you have already kicked out that exact jam on pandemic
Friday?
I don't give a shit.
Any excuse to play a Toto.
I'm going to jump on.
we've learned that because you kicked out the corner McGregor.
I don't fucking care.
I don't fuck off.
So you kicked out that exact Toto song on the,
the yacht rock episode in my backyard.
By the way, we have a chance to play it again because these are songs with guys' names in the title and Georgie Borgie, Mike Richards in the morning.
Don't confuse Mike Richards with Jim Richards.
I would never do that.
That guy's not.
No, he's terrible.
Jim Richards.
Terrible.
Is that right?
Because he's here right now.
Jim, how are you doing?
Okay.
That's okay.
He's a good friend.
Okay.
We're going to kick out Cam Gordon's final jam.
Just before we do, Mark, are you guys watching the NBA playoffs?
Of course.
Madison Square Garden games have been insane.
So wild.
That was so good last night.
So good to see.
Yeah.
Anyway, our friend Kawhi down there in L.A. is not doing so hot. names have been insane so wild that was so good last night so good to see yeah anyway our our
friend uh kawaii down there in la is uh not not doing so hot they're down oh two game three with
the uh clippers and dallas are tonight and a big part why dallas is up to oh is actually uh
their best player who actually shares a name with uh this this fourth and final jam we're about to
hear very different story
of the namesake, but nevertheless,
same first name.
This is going to be a trap.
All right, here we go.
I think I hear it.
Oh, that's awesome.
I'm a designer.
My name is Luca.
I'm a designer. I live on the second floor I live upstairs from you
Yes, I think you've seen me before
If you hear something late at night
Some kind of trouble, some kind of fight
Just don't ask me what it was
Just don't ask me what it was. Just don't ask me what it was.
Just don't ask me what it was.
Okay, so that, of course, is Luka, not Luka Doncic.
Doncic?
How do you say it?
Doncic.
Just Luka, plain Luka by Suzanne Vega from 1987.
Big, another big fucking hit number three in the
u.s number five in canada nominated for record of the year at the 88 grammys um losing out to
steve winwood or steve winwood uh paul simon graceland um no shame there did you consider
tom's diner i i i i didn't consider it, but when I chose this, I started doing research.
I'm like, oh, yeah, Tom's Diner.
We could have done that.
But much like CP24, Cam likes to stick to the bad news.
Now, Suzanne Vega, the artist, she did win a Grammy that year for Best New Artist.
And one of the people at competition,
this is, again, sort of a Dan Seals
What year is it?
It was 1988, so this was like for stuff
that happened in 1987.
One of the
runners-up in that category,
Best New Artist, was Jodie Watley.
Right. Yeah, for sure.
Talk about Jodie Watley. I'm looking for a new
love, baby. Yeah.
I'm looking for new love, yeah sure um geography corner always forget the name esri yes canada's geography
corner one day they should cut me a check for this yeah so she suzanne vega grew up in uh harlem
actually and went to a high school uh fiorello h laguardia i see him same as the airport family uh which is like a
performing arts school the the sheer volume that people went to the same school as suzanne vega is
impressive this is just a small list i'm gonna go through this really quickly start off like right
at the top ben vereen huge wow we got paul stanley we got nikj. Wow. We got a couple of artists
we talked about on past episodes.
Laura Nero and Eagle Eye Cherry.
Wow.
We got At17,
Lil Janis Ian.
We got fucking Eartha Kitt.
We got Azalea Banks.
Wow.
We've got Jack K.
I'm going to say... 227 yeah a couple more names mike i feel like
you've talked about this fella with uh 1236 before al jaffe oh yes yeah from mad magazine
mad magazine like the fold-ins yeah and uh last but not least al pacino you may have heard in the
dark here yeah yeah um a couple of like good mind blows
about this um although i feel like this came up sean colvin is singing backup on this song
where have all the cowboys gone is that her yeah because we talked about that last week during the
uh cowboy the uh quick question for mike quick quick question for mike mike yeah you know the
song you know the willie nelson song to all the girls I've loved before?
Oh, that's Aladdin's song, right?
Which features Julio Iglesias.
Is that a country song?
What do you say, Mike?
You know, I think
if I had to look at those charts,
do I think it is
or do I think it charted on the country charts?
No, no, no. Fuck the charts.
When you listen to that song, is that a country song fuck the grammys is it a country
you know i didn't know i didn't understand there'd be profanity on the show because these guys are
trying to influence you i'll let you know i believe it is a country song these guys don't
two-thirds of people agree with uh cam and i that it's okay now okay so so let's so here's here's
your measure so if i go open into what they call the 905, so that's my area,
that's where I'm from.
Wow.
If I play that song in a Junior Farmer dance,
do they dance to it like it's a country song?
The answer is yes.
Yeah, because Willie Nelson's on it.
Yeah, we've already established that country music fans are stupid,
and if they hear Willie's voice.
Oh.
Hey, let me tell you about you people, eh?
Wow.
Let's talk about you people, eh?
That's what I say right there, eh?
It's a beauty.
That was rude.
Two more fun facts, okay?
Really quickly, this was...
A cover of this song was actually
the first semi-popular hit by the Lemonheads.
I don't know if you've ever heard that.
Oh, but they also covered Mrs. Robinson
by Simon and Garfunkel, and that's the first time I heard them on video. That ever heard that. Oh, but they also covered Mrs. Robinson by Simon and Garfunkel.
And that's the first time I heard them on the radio.
That was a great one.
Yeah, it was all over 102.1.
Final fun fact, this is a legit mind blow.
Who watches Sopranos?
I do.
I watched every episode.
Okay.
Jack Gabriel Jr.
Do you remember this character dated Meadow Soprano?
I think died, was sort of apprenticing his dad.
The guy who played
Jack Gabriel Jr. also played
Luca in the video for this when he was a little
kid. That's a great fun fact. That's a good
fun fact. Yeah. Okay, here's another
Canadian. Here's another Canadian
cover that people may not recognize.
But do you know Bowser and
Blue, the Canadian longtime
comedy duo that did music
parodies from Shanana
they did no no
not that long ago but they
be like on the college scene like university
blah blah they had a lot of albums
they did my name
my name is Rambo and they
that was the cover
Dr. Demento kick that out
maybe on a Sunday night we'd hear Dr. Demento
you never know so they change it from like child abuse
to just like a
it's a natural
I'm just going to just quote
YYZ
quickly he's on the live chat he says
sorry Stu I will take Luca
over Georgie
oh that's cool I don't give a shit
just want to give him some
okay Cam wins this is the same guy that also Oh, that's cool. I don't give a shit. Just want to give him some.
Okay.
We're going to move on.
Okay.
This is the same guy that also would take Chef Boyardee over a nice palm of pasta.
Okay.
Suzanne Vega, Luca, depressing song, but a good selection.
He wants to be depressed and listen to Luca over a beautiful Georgie
Porgy.
Me and Mike are popping champagne now that he's on.
Stu, we each get 10 minutes.
Stu Stone, we're each going to take 10 minutes here
because we have 40.
Stu is frustrated.
He's off his game.
He's being like Kawhi.
I'm going to kick out my last jam.
I just want to let everybody know,
including Mr. Richards,
thanks for joining us, Mike.
I just want to say that if you're looking to buy
and or sell in the next six months,
you need to talk to Mimico Mike.
Mike Majewski, he just kicked out the jams a couple of weekends ago.
He came in my backyard.
It was fantastic.
Go listen to him kick out the jams.
Go to realestatelove.ca to contact Mike and let Mike know.
Toronto Mike sent you.
Peace and love to everybody.
Palma Pasta, I know that Mike Richards is already a huge fan of Palma Pasta and
Anthony Picucci. He's a big Mike Richards fan too. So shout out to Anthony, uh, sticker you.com.
You need stickers, decals, you need whatever, uh, sticker you.com is where you go. Family run
business. They're out of Liberty village, uh, but they're online. So even my Quebec listeners can,
can order from stickeru.com.
And, of course, Ridley Funeral Home.
Much love to the good people at Ridley Funeral Home.
And now, here's my final jam.
Here we go.
Wow.
This is the Victor Newman's competition. And she's loving with that body I just nudged And he's holding her in his arms late, late at night
You know I wish that I had Jessie's girl
I wish that I had Jessie's girl
Where can I find a woman like that?
You know what you should talk about here, Mike?
You should talk about people who have transitioned from Soapstar and crossed over.
Like, where does Rick Springfield rank?
Is he above, below John Stamos?
George?
Michael Damian.
Michael Damian.
You know what?
Rick Springfield is above all of them.
I mean, remember what his name was?
He had that big song um all i need yeah
it's just a little bit more time oh that's a bit does it yeah huge huge that was that was a big one
uh but rick springfield was was was actually like a rock star like he was actually yeah uh you know
selling places out it's sort of like when you watch the story of
David Cassidy.
He hated
being on the Partridge family because
it killed him.
He just couldn't understand because he'd come up to Toronto
and fill the
exhibition stadium and then
he'd have to go and pretend he was
Keith Partridge.
And he never got over. And you know he was big with the ponies, right you know keith partridge and he he never got over
and you know he was big with the ponies right you know mike that he uh owned horses and stuff and
would race these horses and uh was no one on the horse racing circuit who david cassidy yeah david
cassidy sorry yeah peter did gross tell you peter gross uh in fact hear me out hear me out real
quick i'll do this really quick the uh david Cassidy owned a horse that was named Peter the Gross after Peter Gross.
That suggestion was made to David Cassidy by Perry Lefkoe.
That's a good story.
It must be true if Perry said it.
That's better than the sprinkler story.
Let me just say that.
It's not as good as the sprinkler story.
Hey, let me burn through the fun facts here because then I have a quick mind blow.
That will blow no minds,
but it'll tease next week's episode.
So, of course,
did you guys know Rick Springfield was Australian?
I did not.
No.
I had no fucking clue.
I know.
He's Australian.
That blows my mind.
I know.
So he was born there.
He was born there.
Born and raised, apparently.
I don't think he was a two-year-old
who came to the States or whatever,
but Rick Springfield, Australian.
Okay, so this album is called
Working Class Dog.
That'll be significant when I do the mind blow.
Working Class Dog.
February 81 is when this song... I remember it
so well as a kid. This song seemed to be
everywhere, but it was a slow burner.
It did reach number one on the Billboard
Hot 100, but it took 19 weeks
to get to number one. It was one of those slow burns, man.
Just kept going and going and going.
I'm going to just wrap up like, what the fuck?
Who is this?
What the fuck?
Jesse's girl, what's that about?
Apparently Rick Springfield took a stained glass class.
And in this class, his friend Gary had a girlfriend
that Rick Springfield wanted to get to know.
And he didn't take the name gary
he didn't use the name gary it's not uh you know gary's girl uh he just changed it to jesse
because the t-shirt that she was wearing had uh ron jesse that's a football player
ron jesse's name on it so okay so i thought you said ron jeremy i thought
you don't want that girl rocking anding and rolling, kicking ass, taking names.
Next week, Pandemic Friday is in my backyard.
Are you guys both a go, Cam and Stu?
Totally.
What's the topic, Mike?
Okay, here is my mind blow.
Ring, ring.
Hello?
Hello, hey, it's Cindy Ann.
No, who is this?
What do you mean, who is this?
This is Jimmy Hart, the mouth of the South.
Where is she?
She's going to the Rick Springfield concert.
Rick Springfield!
Oh!
I caught my chick on the phone last night.
Her mother said she was gone for the night
She had two tickets to a rock and roll show
To see who walking class he wrote
So I jumped in the car and I cruised downtown
I could hear the music playing from a mile around
So I got me a ticket and I walked inside
I could see him standing there in the spotlight.
Eat your heart out, Rick Springfield.
Eat your heart out, Rick Springfield.
Of course.
What a great fucking song.
Because he was a musician, as we said last week,
when I kicked out Bobby Gentry's Ode to Billy Joe.
Gentry's, absolutely.
He was my first interview.
My first big interview.
Get out of here.
10-50 chum was Jimmy.
That's so sick.
Can you name the big hit?
What was the big hit?
He was so like,
so he came in and he was so quiet and I was real nervous and I'm like 25 and I'm sitting there with a guy named Jack Dennis.
And he comes in and he's like,
hi man,
how's it going?
When are we going to be on?
Well,
in about like two minutes.
Okay. So we're going to talk about what are we going to do? You can, in about like two minutes. Okay, so we're going to talk about,
what are we going to do?
Are you going to do some stuff?
I said, well, I'm probably going to do
Pee Wee Herman at some point.
Okay, that's cool.
Let's go.
And then he sits there and he's just quiet.
I'm like, oh my God, this guy's going to bomb.
This is going to be terrible.
I don't know what's going to happen.
The lights go on.
Hey, baby.
Hey, baby, I'm ready.
And he just takes off.
I loved him in the WWF.
He was... He's show business.
That is old school.
Which I find all
the wrestlers, anyone to do with wrestling
gets you put the cord in.
That's why Stu is so good at work.
Do you know Stu Stone
is a wrestler? Not in the WWE, but
what's the name of the wrestling outfit that you're
a famous character in?
Next week, we'll talk about
this actually. So join us next week.
We'll be live in the backyard. Wrestling Jams.
I should be on every week. I love this guy.
I can come to the backyard. Are you kidding me?
I'm going to bring my drum kit. Then we'll see who wins.
Then we'll see who wins.
You can camp back there. The Gentries, by the way,
Jimmy Hart was in the band called the Gentries,
if you've been following along. And in the 1960s
they had a minor hit called Keep On Dancing. That was the minor band called the Gentries. If you've been following along and in the 1960s, they had a, a minor hit called keep on dancing.
That was the minor hit for the Gentries.
And maybe we'll play it next week.
Stu stone,
set up your final jam and we'll see if we can get this in before
probably going to be where I lose most of you.
Mike played some hip hop earlier,
but it's very rare that we get to play some nineties hip hop around
here.
We keep talking about
doing a 90s hip-hop episode.
We've yet to do one.
Where's Wu-Tang Clan? Where's Mobb Deep?
Where's Nas?
Where's Notorious B.I.G.?
Where's Gangstar?
Where's Das FX?
I figured, well, this is a time that I could
sneak one of those type of songs
in here. I don't know if it's going to be your cup of tea, Mike, but it's certainly a song that has a gentleman's name in the title.
And it's certainly a tied to a fun fact. So let's play some of it. Get the fuck up
Simon says get the fuck up
Throw your hands in the sky
Kneezes in the back, sippin' yak.
Yo, what's up?
Girls, up on your titties.
Oh, boy.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Okay.
Top of the ladder.
It's a Christmas song.
Yes.
So this is a song called Simon Says.
This is a fucking really great hip-hop track.
The track specifically is so awesome.
Yes.
Pharaoh Monch is the name of the artist former rapper from
The group organized confusion well his own
This is his solo single fun facts about this
Let's just go right to the to the mind below. That's that's where the fun facts sort of begin
But there's a sample, obviously, here.
Beautiful.
Nobody heard that and made that rap song out of it.
God bless them.
But that is the theme from the Godzilla film.
And if you don't clear that, it's a problem.
They did not clear that.
And thus this song, this song, Simon says in the album that it's on,
has become sort of a rarity and a collectible because of the season's assist that came in.
The album became out of print and you couldn't even
find it anywhere and he used to do a rerecord and it caused all sort of issues all sorts of issues
for Pharaoh who decided screw the big labels and he went on his own after that and never refused
to record anything else for Universal Music and basically there's a lesson to be learned that you got to clear the samples.
What is the 90s always sound so good when you go back and listen to the genre of that
time?
Why does it always sound?
It always sounds like to me the best.
Well, I'll tell you why.
Because, you know, think about like the beginnings of any sort of genre and like how the people
that sort of figured it out.
It's music is very rare because in most instances, the person that invented the hamburger is not the person that makes it the best.
You know, it's the person who who et cetera, et cetera.
I don't need to waste your time with this analogy.
You make me hungry.
But in music, it's different because we actually do appreciate the pioneers.
And so you look at what's the best rock and roll.
It comes from the 50s and 60s and 70s, arguably.
What's the best hip hop?
It comes from the late 80s, early 90s, mid 90s, because that's when people sort of really figured it out.
And I think from 1991 to 1997, we'll call it, there's this golden era, maybe even 93 to 97,
there's this golden era where it was just kicking ass.
Once the masses get involved and things become popularized,
it's the end.
Hip-hop music becomes hip-hop music.
It gets watered down and it's not cool anymore.
And so you listen to the lyrics.
Now, there's not lyricists like there used to be.
And I don't want to be the old man on the porch being like,
my rap music's better than the kids today's rap music. But there's not lyricists like there used to be. And I don't want to be the old man on the porch being like my rap music is
better than the kids today's rap music,
but it's true.
It really is true.
I didn't have to understand a word that Wu Tang said on any album.
The feeling that I got from listening to it was enough.
Gentlemen.
Okay.
We're getting the accent music.
I'm playing you off.
Mike fucking Richards.
You kicked ass raw.
Mike Richards on Twitter
Congrats on your health man
And best of luck
It's been really good to talk to you today
Mike you just let me know when you can return
To drop some truth bombs
On the people
It's coming
Big ones are coming
Big ones
You want to give a clue you want to give a clue
no no i can't what's the length how long it is uh two weeks oh my god and you're gonna you're
gonna come here and announce the truth bombs when it happens okay exciting exciting yeah
cam fucking gordon uh i i always a pleasure manrd week. Yeah, listen to me on the Amber McArthur podcast this week, too.
Is it as fun as Pandemic Fridays?
It was pretty fun.
It was pretty pithy in it. Yeah, I did
Verification Urban Legends.
Okay, I'll have to check that out.
I'll have to check that out, of course.
Stu Stone, I can't wait
to see that beautiful face in my backyard
next week doing wrestling jams.
So excited.
Yeah, and Mike, get that sprinkler.
I want to get a look at this thing.
And hopefully next week,
Mike will come armed with actual stories and not just sprinkler anecdotes.
I like my sprinkler story.
I think the FOTMs are going to like it, I think.
Mike Richards, man, you're the man.
You are the man.
This is awesome.
And we're finished in time to catch the puck drop for tonight's game.
I just want to say I called it last week.
I said Leafs in five and soon we'll know if I was correct,
but I'm feeling very confident.
Wow, what a huge leap of faith that is.
Wow, you're really something.
You can tell us water is wet.
And that.
Shout out to Great Lakes.
I really enjoyed my Sunnyside IPA.
I just picked it up today.
It was delicious.
So thank you, Great Lakes Brewing.
Well, you're going to get some beer in my backyard next week, buddy.
You can picture it.
Yeah, I got one already.
And that brings us to the end of our 857th show.
Is it 57 or 58?
Does anybody know?
Should I check?
58.
I'm going to redo that, okay?
Who's counting?
And that brings us to the end of our 858th show.
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