Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Greg Brady: Toronto Mike'd #76

Episode Date: May 14, 2014

Mike and Elvis talk to Greg Brady, morning show host at The Fan 590.

Welcome to the 76th episode of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything, often with a distinctly Toronto flavour. I'm Mike from TorontoMic.com. Joining me, as usual, is my brother from another mother, Elvis. And visiting the Toronto Mic'd studio this week is fan 590 morning show host, Greg Brady. Welcome Greg Brady. I got about five minutes now. Bringing up three very lovely girls. Welcome Greg Brady. All that hair of gold. Can you clap? Woo!

No, no, no. I got about five minutes now. I went down to 40 and then you played the theme. I have five minutes. I called that. Three questions. Totally called that. It's like the Penelope Cruz ad. I couldn't help myself because my first question is, I'm looking at you.

You look like you're about my age, which means you were born after 1969. Yeah. My parents weren't big TV watchers, but I really think the show, I've done my research on the original Brady Bunch movie, and it really caught fire either its second year or third year. And I was born in August. So then it catches fire that fall. But you were born in 70?

71. 71. Okay. Okay. But I always make the argument. My parents weren't daft and completely oblivious to pop culture, but they just didn't give it a second thought.

I don't even think the Brady Bunch was a big pop culture thing until the mid-70s. We'd watch in reruns, Joe Namath is on, so I'm 42. Then you're free of it for 20 years, and then the damn movies come out with Gary Cole and Shelley Long, and it starts again. too yeah then you're free of it for 20 years and then the damn movies come out with gary cole and shelly long and it starts again but yeah it was a huge hit in syndication it's one of those shows

like like uh well that's exactly it no one names their kid gilligan and when the show comes out we had a little debate because you know there's a lot of people named we have the same name as a character or famous person but they they were born before that broke. So it's like, you're named Greg Brady. And we were trying to figure out who would name their kid Greg Brady after the Brady Bunch sort of. I think I'm in the safety zone. And if I have two sons, if I'd named them Mike and Bobby, I'm an idiot. I'm a jerk.

That's a bad parent. But did you ever consider a different name for radio? The only time I did was a guy, a coordinator at Fanshawe. I went to Western and then I went to Fanshawe. And he said, you're editorializing in the news. You're cracking jokes at the end of stories. So then I came in. I said, well, I feel like I'm okay at doing that.

So now I'm going to be – I just came on the air the next morning. I didn't tell him I was doing it. I said, this is Michael brady and i read everything straight as an arrow and he said don't do that either do you want to graduate or not but now you want to go and do you want me to recommend you for a job in yellow knife or not and so i stopped doing that right for one day i was michael brady the only thing worse i think than greg brady would be mike brady well i have the dad's name right well i have an aunt who lives in ohio i've got some some american rootage and uh and she's she married and she married my dad's brother and her name is cindy

so she chose that might be worse as an adult to be cindy brady what are you gonna do well you're in love you're in love my real name i was named after a famous person so that's right um elvis presley right sure um perry como perry como that's my my which is no really i was guessing That's right. Elvis Presley. Right, sure. Perry Como. Perry Como. That's my... No, really? I was guessing at that. Perry Como. It's the only famous Perry.

But now the funny thing is is when I tell people that I'm named after Perry Como, 95% of the people have no idea who that is. Yeah, the Bradys have stuck around longer than Perry Como has. He's just a really antiquated singer.

I know Mike's a big SCTV fan. He remembers Eugene Levy doing Perry Como. Yeah, yeah. Lying on the stage. That's how we know these people. We know them from the center. So why don't we get started?

Thanks so much for making time today. Can I say I'm a big fan of the website and the podcasts that I've heard have been, there's only so many hours a day, but the podcasts I've heard have been great. And I grew up in London, so I love remembering Toronto. Any kind of retro stuff you do, like when I see anything that says Exhibition Stadium or City TV. I didn't get City TV at my house with an aerial until I was 15 years old. So like 1986.

And I, you know, you'd get the Toronto Star on Saturday, and you'd get Star Week. That was the only way you'd know what shows were on. But I'm very, you know, like I drive into Toronto, and now I totally take toronto for granted because i've lived here seven years but you don't and and you've always been here but i do now because i think you're going to a jays game you're going to a show at massey hall but when you grew up in london it was a big deal to come here uh it's a big deal to go to detroit

london's a great city because you're two hours from detroit and you're two hours from toronto it was perfect no well thank you very much uh speaking. Speaking of London, Elvis and you have a connection, which I'll let Elvis... Moderately so. I had no shame in leveraging that when I reached out to you the first time. Oh, I was going to do it anyway. There's only so many people I hate in London, and you're not one of them. So how did you get in?

So we both worked at the same radio station and worked as in quotations, obviously. I do... For me, personally, I was paid. So I do say that it was a legit, I was, it was an honorarium. It was pretty small, but still I got paid for it. But we were both at CHUW. The most famous alumni, alumnus is probably Kevin Newman.

Dan Shulman and Kevin Newman. That's it. No one else. Well, there's, there are quite a few. I'm trying to think. Stephen Brunt wrote for the paper. Oh, God. I did not know Stephen Brunt was a gazette.

Elliot Friedman obviously did both. Elliot Friedman as well. Okay. I was wrong. I've had lunch with Elliot before because I had a CHRW reunion. So I'm going to try and leverage that as well. Are you going to do it? Can you organize another CHRW reunion?

I'd love to. There's a lot of cool people that have come out of that particular program. And a but yeah yeah but so how did you get involved like what was it i remember the day that i said i want to be on the radio but like i think i was i well i my radio roots go to summer of 87 i went to a camp in perry sound i was uh tennis was my sport um the biggest one in high school and i my parents were looking to get rid of me for the summer because i was i was turning 16 but i lived in the country so i had to get driven everywhere so i went to this camp called camp manitou wobbing and they had a near perry sound they had a 550 watt radio station right so literally as a camper you'd take it was one of your courses so i thought i don't want to be outside all day so i said let's do tennis baseball and radio

and so you could have you imagine being 16 and you've got your own hour long radio show where you're playing. I remember Foreigners Urgent was the first song I played and I was still five or six years old then. And you could send dedications out to girls and then you're. So I went to that camp for three years and then taught radio for the next two years. And then I got away from it, didn do it and then you're you're finishing up at western as a political science student and i thought i don't want to be a politician's aid and i applied to law schools and i thought that's going to be really hard i've had roommates who've gone to law school and and i thought that they don't look very happy and uh and then so i thought well why don't i apply to journalism school and i thought i'm not doing enough and uh but halfway

through my fourth year uh i started doing a little bit of stuff for the Gazette. But by January of 94, I came out and started doing stuff for RW. And it just newscasts. And it just clicked. And then by the fall, I'm doing the football games. That's the last Western team to have won a championship, unbeaten. And they won the Yates Cup against Laurier. And they won at Sky Dome back then against saskatchewan in double

overtime they have won since so you did the game in skydome then yeah yeah for well they played u of t in a semi-final game and then uh and then the uh the big famous saskatchewan and then they lost to calgary the next year in the final but i'm uh i'm the last link to a championship team there i'm very proud of that right i was embarrassed i was so i was in my last year of high school that championship year. OK. And my buddy and I knew that we were going to Western, even though we hadn't been accepted yet. We were sort of like, we got to go. That sounds overconfident.

I would say I wouldn't have expected it. We went to the game. So we were there and we were like ran over the Western. Saskatchewan was a great game. Double overtime. Yes. Amazing. And that's when the Vanier Cup like they were getting 30.

The Skyton was so new and fresh and and they were getting a legit 35,000 for this. Guys, I want to say, just so I feel like I belong in this convo, I was at U of T when U of T last won the Vanier Cup with Mario Storino as a quarterback, 93, I want to say. Yeah, right before that, because then Glenn McCausland was the return guy the year after. Yeah, it could have been earlier. They kept kicking to the squirrel.

I think it was, yeah, 93 93 or so so there you go so do you still um because of your involvement within the at the time ciu do you still follow western not as much um no i wish i wish i followed it more or went back even to a game or so and where i really lost it and i'm still i feel apologetic is then the first job i got out of fanshawe was going down to windsor and working and so windsor is like maybe 45 canadian but it just feels like a suburb of detroit because of you i mean so detroit felt more homey to me than way up east in in toronto and so i started fall you know you're in the more of the american sports you're driving to the i got to live there the first year that um i lived there was 97 and

michigan went unbeaten and that was charles woodson's heisman year and they won so i'm at all these games and just driving there by myself on a saturday with nothing else to do and uh and getting a press pass for these games so um no i i ended up uh really losing touch with the cfl and the cis and curling i don't know if i was ever in touch with her but it's it's taken i've been back in canada now seven about seven years and it's taken a long time to sort of assimilate back in and the cfl just hasn't grabbed me again but i also felt like when i went away over those nine years mike you could tell me this is true or not not, it sort of has dipped in popularity. It felt on a level playing field a little bit, even with the Blue Jays.

But in the Blue Jays' infancy, it felt like the same amount of people. The last time I felt the Argo buzz was when they signed Ricky Williams. So definitely when they signed Ricky Williams, you could feel it. You could feel something in the air. That wasn't for any other reason other than he was a name it wasn't because they were you know good or anything but that that created the buzz right and it had the desired effect so to speak i mean i went to a game to see just for my i took my son to a game to watch ricky williams because ricky williams was playing for the argos yeah like it was exciting but since then i feel uh it's definitely my

brothers for example would never watch a cfl game like they see it as a minor league. Yeah, maybe. And certainly since the rocket experiment and when Candy McNall and Gretzky on the team, it was it felt like a huge deal for about three. That was a big deal. And since then, it hasn't been once they brought the American teams in. So I'd go to Iverwin all the time. It was closer for me to go to Iverwin for games. And and it just felt like a felt like they lost something when they brought all the American teams in and then kicked them out again. So, yeah, long story short. Yeah. London. No, I got a lot of roots in London. Yeah. So how does a guy go from from community radio to to the journalism program and then suddenly go to Windsor? How did that process sort of work? Yeah. Just for younger people.

There's so many people in schools right now. Like there's there's a lot more schools schools ryerson takes more people uh fanshawe's big obviously humber's big um just just said god i don't know how i don't even know how you do it now because at that point i would a roommate and i bought a bunch of mini cassette tapes that had five minutes on each side and so you'd put your best five minutes of radio on there and uh and and i did have some uh some stuff from the uk which was cool because i had a connection there from that i met at manitou who's still one of my best friends and uh and so i put stuff on and i literally sent out tapes to um you know i got a book with every radio station address and sent sent tapes to to everywhere i thought i wanted to work like even you know out in the middle of nowhere i sent one to castleguard bc and then got a job offer and it was like for 15 grand and you'd be working 18 hour days and i

thought like i'm gonna try and hold out and i was lucky enough that the windsor thing timed out perfectly and that was that was a really fortunate first job to get i i got a i got a news job in barry that i got rejected for and yet i got a job in Windsor in the same week. And right at that point in time, Windsor was a little more money and it was a little bit better market, but you're still starving the first two years. You're just, you, you, you crave the airtime and you're making no money. And it's, um, uh, it's a really tough business. I feel like if you haven't really feel like you're making progress by five or six years, you should, you should get out. It's really, it can chew you up and spit you out.

So another, another timing wise, been really lucky. Another famous alum that has a similar story. And he did do the sort of back, the, the, the back road type of, of deal is Dan Schulman is from CHRW. And he, I remember interviewing him and he's telling me about, you know, he would go way up North and like, he's the only one in the station and, you know, he's doing everything. And eventually, you know know he's doing everything and eventually you know he got i'm really fortunate no i've been in windsor and and detroit and london and toronto and so i haven't had to ever be too far away from my family i'm really close to my parents still and they're both still alive so i haven't had to like go seven hours one way north southeast or go to like thunder bay or whatever yeah yeah like and and at the same time you tell people from kids

from toronto that now because i did some teaching with journalism, and you tell them, you might have to move out of Toronto. And they look at you like you got three heads, and you go, well, God – because I applied to Fanshawe and Ryerson. That's funny. In the same year – no, the first year I applied to Ryerson before I even applied to Fanshawe, and I didn't get into Ryerson. And I think the whole process really intimidated me. Toronto intimidated me a little bit at the age of 22, 23. I thought there's going to be so much talent there. And I really felt like I was already doing the football games at Western.

And I already thought I've got a foot on the ladder here in London. And if I'm a slightly bigger fish in a smaller pond, that's better. Ryerson scared me. And then I got into both next year before I chose Fanshawe. And I chose to stay at Fanshawe. Not many people would do that. And it was definitely the right thing to do. Stupid question.

What the hell is Fanshawe? Should I know? Come on. Should I? It's only the greatest college in London. It's a community college. Honestly. It's London's Humber, Seneca.

Yeah. We were talking before we pressed record. We were just briefly chatting about Barb DiGiulio. And you mentioned Fanshawe. I actually heard the first time, Fanshow. Oh, okay, okay. Because I was connecting Barb to fan and yourself to fan. So this is a college in London.

It's London's Humber. I've never heard of it. Its nickname is Fan Belt College, as in all you'd learn is how to handle your car. But it's a bit more of a trade school. I figure if I don't know, someone else listening doesn't know. Or Funshaw, we used to call it. So I do not follow OCAA sports any more than I...

Yeah, like a big Fanshawe Sheridan rivalry in girls volleyball or something. I'm way out to lunch on that. I live in Oshawa, and we have the Durham Lords out there. Well, they have an Ajax. I know exactly where that is so uh so in detroit according to uh wikipedia obviously that part is a little fuzzy it seems as though what happened in detroit it's yeah it seems as though according to wikipedia anyway they they fired everyone that was on the show and then brought everyone back except for you well well, that was probably the smart thing to do.

It was also, yeah, I ended up starting in Detroit. I applied there at the end of, or mid-98, and my work visa took forever. It's a long story. There was a government shutdown, like Congress shutdown. That'll happen. And that was the big summer of Lewinskygate. And I'm telling you, that impacted things

and how much processing of stuff got done for Monica and me. And by the time I got my work visa, the job was still there. They waited for me in January 99. And I left. So I was back working at CFPL in London at FM 96 and what was probably called, I don't even know, Radio 98, but the Heritage Station in London. And I was making 38 grand. And I left to go make $25,000 in the U.S. Now, the exchange rate was a lot better, but it still seemed like my parents backed me all the way.

They said, this is great for you, but you're bottom of the barrel, and you're making $25,000. And then I worked my way up from doing updates at night and covering stuff. But I'll tell you what, that's the really cool thing about being a radio reporter is there's free travel. Like four months after I'm there, I'm going with the Red Wings in a playoff series to go. They're playing Anaheim in the first round. I'm like, how? I couldn't afford to go to California if I stay for five months.

And here they're sending me there for six days. I'm rollerblading on Santa Monica Pier. I'm going out to I'm staying at a nice hotel. So that part was really cool to be able to travel with the sports teams, and I did that with the Red Wings and the Lions a lot in the first couple years. And it was just – you're making no money. You don't even want to date because you feel like you're too poor, like you're embarrassed almost. And yeah, it was and then i i started

to work my way up got on the morning show and then we we had a good morning show i think for five years a lot of fun things detroit happened they won a cup red wings won a cup histens won the nba title and then uh yeah the economy the economic woes really hit detroit before they hit the rest of the u.s and i was so lucky because I, I, um, Jeff Merrick, who Mike just mentioned, if there's a big domino effect, Jeff Merrick had left, uh,

working with bill waters at AM six 40. So he takes a job with serious and hockey night in Canada radio and Gord Harris, who I'd worked for in London was the program director at chorus, uh, in that building. Um, when it was at young and Dundas where the edges and Q.

And so I, I had checked in with Gord early in the year and, and I said, hi, what about this job? And, you know, in September when things were still going well and I'm like, cause we had talked, we were, we had one small kid, we were pregnant with another. And I thought, I thought maybe, maybe it is, maybe it's time to go back. I'm having a good time. It's been nine years, but maybe, maybe I should go back and just curious about the money, see if I can make more money, but Toronto's more expensive to live in. And Gord's like, oh, yeah, sure, just send a tape in and whatever.

And I didn't. And then two months later, they fire like 30 of us. And I'm like, Gord, is there a newscasting? But I'm thinking he's got to have filled it. But the progression, they couldn't. Bill Waters, they were moving to primetime to go up against mccown and they were they tried other people in there and i'm not saying they made right decision wrong decision they had tried fred patterson wanted that job they had tried bill hayes in there they tried a couple other people and waters and i just uh we went to lunch one day and i knew it was a big test i thought if lunch doesn't go well this is a chemistry

test and bill uh you know i'd seen bill doing uh stuff on tsn and i knew he was rather gregarious and him and him and joe bowen uh you know uh open bar during uh leaf's uh radio games and uh i we we did click and it worked out really well and then and then i got an opportunity to go to the fan and and for with better hours i was kind of tired of getting home at eight o'clock at night with little kids. I was doing four to seven and drive time is great. And obviously you're going to make better money in drive time afternoon and drive time morning than you would at noon. But I was happy to go to noon at the fan.

And then they had some shuffles with mornings. And after they tried a few people and after Maria uh maria the cleaning lady didn't work out they gave me a chance and uh still there so yeah it's a long long story but yeah that's uh that's my career in in about 15 16 years so back to 640 so what was it like just because he's this is episode 76 and 74 was the jeff merrick episode in which uh i kicked him out after two hours because i had i had other things i had to do but uh he was it was amazing I don't know if you listened did you get a chance I got some of it yeah yeah it's long sure it's long it's but it's worth it right Elvis yeah it's the only one I've ever listened to it's Elvis's favorite so uh what was it like filling his shoes because

he was uh well the good thing was I didn't know that much about him so I didn't know whether he was I knew I hoped all you can do when you fill somebody's shoes is hope maybe half the people will think you're you're as good and half the people you know probably half the people won't um the toronto market's weird you guys have no have followed it longer than i have i just think people hate change so they will yeah like if john derringer quit tomorrow people will hate the next morning host at Q107. You're 100% right. They probably don't like the Edge morning show.

They don't even like Q107 right now because they started playing stuff that was recorded in the 90s and 2000s. Yeah, so you're going to have a tough time. Whoever did the Edge after, I don't know if there was a gap even between Humble and Fred and Dean. No gap because they moved to 640 of all places.

Yeah, to Mojo, that's right. And so, yeah, I didn't really know as much about Jeff, but then I'd hear his serious show and go, that's a pretty good broadcaster. It's one of those funny things because I don't think it's like, say, replacing a goalie or something like Curtis Joseph replaces Felix Potvin. And they're kind of supposed to do the same things because every broadcaster, Jeff does things that I can't do. And maybe I do some that he can. Like, it's just different it's so I'm sure it was a different sound but Waters and I clicked I did think they they needed a younger guy and Waters had a had an older sensibility and it's it's hard it's hard to it's sort of like what what Ron McClain was able to do with Don Cherry you couldn't have a guy Don Cherry's age sit next to to to Don Cherry all those years the gap of 20

years or 25 in the age group actually helped things and I found that worked with Waters that couldn't have a guy don cherry's age sit next to to don cherry all those years the gap of 20 years or 25 in the age group actually helped things and i found that worked with waters that way since you mentioned blundell i have to ask real quick so he came from windsor before he came i knew a little bit there so tell me what was he thought of because my friend was living in uh i want to get this right a suburb of detroit farmington hills yeah that's a nice area i live near there my one of my best friends was living there, and he used to hear Blundell. And he told me he was just like one of those cheesy FM hosts, but I never actually heard. He did.

Yeah, I knew Dean a little bit. He worked on The River first, which was sort of like AOR radio. I got there, and they were playing a lot of, oh, God, what's that awful song, Bitch, by Meredith Brooks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was playing that. And Sonny Came Home by Sean Colvin. Oh oh yeah uh so he's playing that kind of stuff and then 89x moved him over to mornings and i think they had a more successful show than the one there uh but i i knew dean a little bit i knew he was really really driven and uh and i it's weird it's

i talked to him a little bit i i've seen him a few times here, and I wouldn't say he's – like we're friendly, but we're not friends. He's not a warm guy. Oh, he's been warm enough to me, but at the same time, God, he put a run together, didn't he? And I think that's the one thing in radio that we're finding now is you don't have to be – the popular guys can keep finding work, but are the popular guys going to be the the stars like you got to be interesting and for whatever reason like dean just fed into people where somebody's like i can't stand that guy and you're like well stop listening and they're like i can't you know the howard sturt effect exactly so it worked it ended up working for him it's not yeah it uh i'll be curious to see he might be done with radio he might not i don't know contractually to

see where he uh to see where he ends up but but he's got a following and people are obviously going to be really curious to see where he lands you mentioned howard stern and mike and i talk about howard a lot because we're big fans and and i still listen every single day and and i remember do you think he's better i asked you do you think he's better on serious or was he better on is he better now or i like him i like him better on Sirius because there's not as many commercials, which kills momentum for the kind of stuff he does. And he's 60 years old now, and he's one of the best interviewers, I think, in the business. Yeah, the stuff with Billy Joel. That's the thing.

I'm not into lesbian bowling and stuff. He doesn't do a lot of that anymore. But when he gets somebody in, you're listening. And even if it's titillating, you're like, I was in the car and Denise Richards was in there. And I'm there with my wife. And I'm like, I don't want to change it because I'm uncomfortable. It's like, but I also want to keep listening. So maybe she's into it as it were as I am.

But yeah. So who are the broadcasters that you like? Who are the ones that you sort of looked up to and put on your Mount Rushmore? Yeah, there's no question I'd look and say Costas. I loved Bob Costas when he did that late-night NBC show after Letterman. That was my life from grade 10, 11 on was when letterman and letterman got picked up by global like the detroit nbc affiliate would delay letterman till 105 a.m there's a bunch of people in our demo that would understand this and they showed a barney miller rerun at 12 30 i don't know why they did that

wow but that's that's the case and uh so he's letterman's letterman and it's amazing um but costas was great um uh hebbshire and tatty right you grow up watching them and and they did everything long before um i always this guy i always tell people they they you know you you still try and be original like it's hard like it it hasn't stopped jay on right and dan o'toole from being stars but it's it's a great debate as to how much of their stuff is theirs and how much they they would have gleaned off of Hempstead and Taddy. It's like was Led Zeppelin originators or did they steal all this blues music from the 40s and 50s and Oasis and the Beatles? It doesn't make people love them any less.

So, oh, God. So those guys – I'm sounding like it's all late night, guys, because I was probably a guy that slept in and didn't hear a lot of guys in the morning. But you get emotional about broadcasters. I read that story for people listening whenever they're listening. It's like this Casey Kasem thing is up in the air, and he's been old and sick for a while, but he's 84. But I'd listen to American Top 40, and it's all scripted out, and that stuff where he yells about the dead dog,

I still – that's worth a good listen once a year. That's a big one. listen once a year come out of a up-tempo record that's a big yeah so stop playing the pointer sisters i have dead dogs every turn plays that all the time that's great so it's good so yeah a lot of guys like that and and um and i i always wanted to be a dj and so i guess a lot of the guys are djs i never saw sports talk when when you're thinking about things and you're like i said i went to this radio camp in 87 sports talk just happened at night or it was post on post tom cheek and jerry howarth doing blue jays or ernie harwell um doing tigers so there wasn't really right it was like scott ferguson and yeah yeah and the formats changed so much and that's the thing yeah i should mention bob because bob i saw bob did sports line before uh mark and and uh and jim did and and that

was the first time i saw i saw him do it um so it's the formats changed so much and i think it's a lot more i do i think it's a lot more interesting than it was 10 years ago i know there's a lot of people even when i got to the fans they made a lot of changes and a lot of people were like where's my old show and and um you know maybe they'll say that in three, four or five years, six months, whatever, uh, when, when some of us move on, but I, I, I think the format changed so much. I didn't even think that it was possible to do sports talk. And, um, so you're either gleaning yourself towards being a DJ and getting to play records, uh, or CDs or do play by play. And so it was most of those things are most of those guys are my big influences. Yeah. I would agree. The play by play aspect was really the only way that you could

get into sports at that time. I hosted, you remember from the cheap seats? Yeah. So I did that for, for three years at Western. And that was really the only opportunity you had to ever talk about sports, uh, on the radio. Yeah. And there wasn't really any other than the sports station in London, right. Which was sort of newish, I think, from what I remember. Yeah. There wasn't a lot of that. I was doing football. It's funny.

I was doing football games with a guy named Dave Woody, and we were splitting the commentary. And then in the third week of the season, one of the Western students threw like a smoke bomb on the field. It looked like a Croatian soccer match. And he out of nowhere says, oh, my, you know uh what are there arabs here and they didn't have him back but this is this is still pre 1994 he says this and i'm going oh god don't do that that's that's the terrible thing to say and he wasn't back doing the game so then it was me and i actually probably got more of a chance to do more stuff on the air because they couldn't have him back on after that comment it was a bad thing to say, they're not the only terrorists out there.

Trust me. Yeah. Yeah. Any comment? I have nothing to say. Do you agree with those sentiments? Yeah, exactly. And also, even if you're not supposed to use that term anyway.

I had a question. Sorry, I thought you had a question. I had a question. So one of the unwritten rules around sports radio is that you're not supposed to be the fan of a team or, you know, like outwardly supporting any particular team. Didn't that rule disappear with Storm and Norman? It was. I mean, everyone loved Storm and Norman back in the day. Many rules disappeared with Norman Mac.

We're going to get him to dish the dirt on RUMAC later. Remind me to come back to that. But I think you may not necessarily agree with this but i think that you are pretty open about your love of detroit and detroit teams that's my that's what i get from you and even you're not necessarily super direct about it but it definitely comes through in the broadcast has anyone ever called you out on that oh god how do you feel about i think it's more is it a i think it's a stupid rule, really. I think it's more I'm mocked for it than it is. But it's present.

I went to my first Tigers game. Let's start with the Tigers. I won my first Tigers game when I was five years old during Mark Fittich's summer. And I brought back a Mark Fittich pennant. And the Jays didn't exist. So we're two hours in London. It's a very divided town with Tigers and Blue Jays fans. I feel way more so than Red Wings and Maple Leafs or any other rivalry.

So I stuck with the Tigers because they were on TV and the Jays lost 100 games a year for the first three years. I'm like, you know, you're six years old. You pick your five or six years old. You should pick your team and stay with it. So the only thing I try not to it wouldn't be a conflict if if the tigers i want the jays to do well i always explain that because people don't get what it would what it does for for ratings was it what it does for interest and the city the city needs it but i try not to rub it in i don't want to talk about like 1987 in those last two weeks mike you're probably miserable

and it's a happy memory for me yeah tony went down and then uh ernie witt went down madlock took tony fernandez out it was a unbelievable it's a very happy sports memory for me but i try not to i try not to tell people that and um so yeah if the tigers were to play the jays and in the alcs i just i don't know i think it'd just be awesome it'd be like it'd be like if detroit played if the now that the red wings and leafs are back in the same division i think it's awesome and and the Winter Classic was great so I'm not I don't feel like it it gets in the way or colors too much but I I don't like the it's it's just different television people say well how come you know Leafs TV says this and I'm like that's that's not what we're supposed to be doing the one thing about the sports media is

I always feel um is that people say the media this and the media that. I just – we don't all get in together, and everybody's got a different opinion and a different agenda, and there's a columnist, and then there's a reporter, and there's a talk show host, and then play-by-play. So you just sort of call them as you see them. You don't want to be too negative, and yet at the same time, like the idea somebody would call me up and say you you you just don't want the leafs to win i'm like oh god i mean you you get excited like you're you're you want to say things after say the collapse against boston last year uh or the collapse of this year so you're excited to say things but you don't want to see it happen it would have been great to have another two weeks of hockey it would have been fantastic and not to kiss your ass or anything but i think it's

refreshing go ahead i think it's refreshing to have that perspective because then you get guys like outside so cox and brun are pretty open about their love of the tycats because they're from hamilton oh yeah and that's i like that's cool but then you get other guys and and cox might be one of them too where it's almost like he's overly negative or people are overly negative to mask the fact that they really are fans and what was um howard burger i think is a guy who sort of fits into that and you know i'm not asking you to trash anyone but i i think it's i think it's uh i think it's refreshing to hear somebody say honestly hey i like this but i i can still be objective because that's what being a sportsman it is a fine line

it should it should bring out emotion in you like i will want england to win the world cup this summer but i'm not gonna you know tell everybody england's great when they're not and i have no expectation that they'll win the world cup it's like i said to andrew my partner today andrew walker i said well you're just saying all you he's been saying is so that it's a great season if there's meaningful games in september for the jays I'm like it's it's okay but you know uh Mike do you want to see them go 84 and 78 again no you've seen that 10 times in the last 23 years what does that do for anybody I guess it's progress but no you want to see them win any of course you'd rather see them win 92 than 84 but yeah it's hard to trash progress if you see it coming along. It's like those Jays teams until, I swear,

until Robbie Alomar hit that home run off Eckersley, you still felt like they were going to fall short. Like there was nothing magical, but it just felt like the same old stuff, and they're going to get their heads beat in by the AL West team again. Right, because in 85, we were up 3-1 against Kansas City, and George Brett took over and lost his history. Jim Sundberg hit that triple with the bases loaded. Yeah.

So I think you've got to have some objectivity, but I also understand that a lot of people listening are fans, but I also think there's that fine line. Like you can't cater to people who are painting the faces, but you want to give them something too, but you're trying to give them opinion and and information without uh you know without overdoing it either way and i know i know what you're saying it's just have people become overly jaded and negative about toronto sports or or have they

or have the teams just really under the teams are never not underperforming because of the media that's my biggest problem is well that there's pressure and and i'm like i'm the media didn't get together and boo larry murphy out of here, the media didn't get together and boo Larry Murphy out of here and the media didn't get together and boo Andrew Raycroft out of here. None of that happened. Well, I think that the media certainly can amplify the pressure that us fans put on the players, right? Because you guys are the ones who are then asking the questions that you're hearing us ask in addition to the questions you guys are going to come up with. I think so. Yeah.

Like all those cameras and microphones on a guy like Kessel who doesn't like that stuff. I know, but I was wrong about Kessel because I'd heard enough rumblings that he went to the USA Olympic evaluation in the fall. And I'd heard from people I know with that organization that he'd get together with Parise and Suter and be like, yeah, free agency. It's awesome. And he went to he went to school in Minnesota as a Wisconsin kid. And so I went on air and I said, I can't guarantee this. I'm not telling you what's going to happen, but I think it's a really strong chance he tests free agency. And he signed like two weeks later.

So he didn't have to stay here. And then there's more taxes. I don't know about stuff because I even look at the Blue Jays and I say, would a really elite free agent look at this? And I still think you want to win, and I still think you want to be part of something. And Toronto's it's sort of the same thing it was in 92 93 but god look at the the guys were lining up malter henderson stewart they all wanted to winfield they all wanted to come here and be part of it it's that winning culture though i think that's it reads

that so i mean these guys don't care if they pay 15 tax or seven percent tax they they care about the salary and the number but they don't really care where they're making it at the end of the day though their accounts will work well because half of them probably don't even know what they what they take home right because they've got they've got like money that work in radio right yeah exactly that's right do you you've got those you've got that money manager to be able to oh yeah you don't you don't need it you don't there has to be able to funnel all your cash. Oh, yeah. You don't need it. There has to be money to manage. And, yeah, there you go. So what is your – you mentioned the Tigers from the 80s.

What is your favorite sports memory? What is that replay that keeps going back in your head? Yeah, like 87 is almost more meaningful in a weird way than 84 because they got dummied by the Twins in the ALCS, but it was just catching your eye. Like 84, there was no drama. They were out of the gate, and they were awesome. Were they 45-5?

35-5, and then they lost a few games. Because I was a diehard Young Jays fan. Incredible. Toronto had a great season that year. They were probably the second-best team in baseball. You're absolutely right, and we finished. I remember at the end of the year, I always looked at how many games back.

They made it close, right? Six, seven games? You guys had that start, and it was an enormous gap. And we did close that gap. I think we were within five games. I think Detroit was 104 and 58, and I think Toronto was probably 97 and 65. So, yeah.

They were, yeah, and they were probably the best two teams in baseball in 87, and they they were they were they were. Yeah. And they were probably the best two teams in baseball in 87. And they were exhausted from those seven games. Like no one has ever put together those seven games on DVD. Like I've seen that you see them periodically. They were awesome. And Detroit, Toronto winning those first three against the Tigers were they were incredible. Like their bullpen collapses and great.

The Saturday afternoon game, I think Detroit was up like seven one and they blew the game. Toronto came Juan Beniquez, right? Yeah, Juan Beniquez. Guys come right back in and have big hits, yeah. The Jays were two games behind the Tigers in 87. Oh, okay, but 84. No, but 84, you're talking about. I bet you 84 was about 6-7.

You're right. We got swept. 87 is a whole different story. I don't know because Elvis is a bit younger than us, but 87 is the heartbreak year where we basically blew the last four games. I think we only had to win. I remember that. Okay.

It's a three-and-a- half game lead with six or seven to play. And the Jays lost the Sunday game. Kirk Gibson had a big home run off Tom Henke. So if they lose that, they're done. They're four and a half out. And I remember it like it was yesterday. Detroit goes to last place Baltimore. Toronto goes to Milwaukee.

And like you said, Mike, Fernandez gets hurt. Or Witt got hurt in Milwaukee was hurt because I have a I cut out the right the comic strip that appeared the star BJ Birdie's comic strip where BJ Birdie is on uh Buck Martinez's shoulder protecting him okay I have that in a scrapbook somewhere but they got killed and they got swept at County Stadium but Detroit only took two of four in Baltimore but then by the time they got to Tiger Stadium, Toronto just didn't. It's like Randy Carlos says, they lost their mojo. And you'd remember, George Bell was so bad the last two weeks,

he couldn't buy a single. He still won the MVP because his season was so amazing. But I've talked to so many Blue Jays who are just like, oh God, like Jesse Barfield and other guys that were on that team, they were shocked by Bell. Just, he couldn't miss. He was brilliant the first five months of the season and had nothing going on for him mid-October.

He was my favorite player too. Oh my, and we overused the word choke, but he choked those last three weeks. He got inside his own head. So this is crazy. The American League West that year in 84, first place was KC, and last place was Texas,

14 and a half games back. But when you go to the East, the Tigers won 104 games that season, and second place Jays were 15 games behind. Oh, they were that far. Unbelievable. But I agree. They might have been the second best team.

In 84, we were 15 games back. They had 89 wins. Milwaukee was 36 and a half games back. You're sure? That internet is accurate? 104. My memory has it much closer. They had 89 wins. Milwaukee was 36 and a half games back. You're sure? That internet is accurate? 104. This is basically my memory. My memory has it much closer.

They were really good that year. 104 wins for the Tigers and 89 wins for the Jays. But think about it. They were probably 10 games out in May and probably shaved that down in the summer. I've never seen a start like that. It hasn't been repeated since then.

And wire to wire, too. So, Dolby, you're trying to ingratiate me to Toronto fans. You're making me talk about You know, I have no problem with this. You know what? I like that Don Cherry doesn't hide the fact he roots for the Leafs and the Bruins. And those are his teams.

And you got even Strombo now, Mr. Hockey Night in Canada. You know, he wears the Habs crest on his heart. I think this is something we just, we're okay. I think you can be a fan of a team and look at it objectively. I look at, as a realist, I look at the Leafs. I don't have blue-colored glasses when I talk about the Leafs. You just want objectivity. Again, Joe Bowen

on Sportsnet Ontario will call a Leafs-Habs game differently than Bob Cole's going to. Bob Cole should call it down the middle, and Bob Cole unfairly gets it. They think he's a Leafs homer in Montreal. If you Google Bob Cole, eventually you get to my site so I see all the comments this guy's a dividing figure because personally I love the greatest a game Bob Cole calls greatest I I heard

one yesterday I love Bob Cole but you get people who think he's a Leaf homer but that may make you dislike Jim Hewson because people think he's going to root for the Canucks so when he gets a Leafs Canucks game you see it on Twitter he gets destroyed by for sure but Jim Hewson because people think he's going to root for the Canucks. So when he gets a Leafs-Canucks game, you see it on Twitter, he gets destroyed by them. For sure. But Hewson, my only issue of Hewson, which speaks to your earlier comment that Toronto people don't like change. But the only thing I don't like about Hewson is that he's not Bob Cole. That's the only thing I dislike about Jim Hewson. That's actually a good point.

For me, Hewson I don't think has enough uh and his i don't i don't i don't hear a lot of energy in his voice uh but that's just a personal thing i think but you're so right mike no matter who that person is going to be to replace bob cole in this market is going to fail i'm 15 uh when dave hodge loses his job with don sherry with the pen flipping thing and i i didn't like ron mclean for the first first two years. And I've met him since then and interviewed him many times. And, God, he – I think he probably – in this day and age, maybe he wouldn't have lasted long enough because it just seems like guys don't get opportunities because – look how quickly TV shows get canceled. I really think they get canceled more quickly. We decide this person can't act.

This person can't sing. And people tear up recording contracts before you know like what did you two make four albums before unforgettable fire and five before joshua tree somebody might have said well they didn't sell enough we won't sign them anymore so you got to give things time it's and i always say you always want to if you can plan it this way you want to follow the guy who follows the legend you don't want to follow that's right that's right don't follow the legend who wants and we we joke about this around our place, I don't know when Bob McCown would retire,

but who wants that job after him? You might want to be the guy after him. That's where you want to be. If Bob is still, Bob's the king, and he's done this 30 years, and he blazed a big-time trail, not just in Toronto, but probably for Sports Radio North America. And though his demo, it's gotten older cause he's gotten older. It's going to, um, it's, it's going to be an unpopular, it's going to be a tough job to handle for those guys.

What, like, what are you thinking if you're Stephen Colbert right now? Cause he's in that, but that's, that's insane for me. How do you replace Letterman? Right. Yeah. It's, it's mental. I think Fallon,on um i think there was enough change within the tonight show for fallon to be successful moving into new york and that whole conan fiasco thing so i think that's a little bit different taking over for leno but letterman like you said is an institution i mean i remember when that the 1235 show like that was yeah must see late night i can't tell and i can't tell having uh having kids and being older if i watch less just because of the time i got up or or it's just you know you can youtube the good clips you can so if if you know um steve carell is on or somebody that you really like or tom hanks michael

keaton is on with letterman i can i can watch an eight minute clip without but i i i know my vhs was set to tape that kind of stuff letterman costas even johnny carson like it's weird to talk to people five six years younger than me who have no idea who johnny carson is i'm like you got to be kidding me i was 21 when he retired and you don't know who he is you you that's like me talking about steve allen i never saw him so i don't know anything about it um what did you want to talk about the the I'm not... Okay, let me ask. Since we're now chronologically... The pornography?

Yeah. Donald Sterling? I don't know. So we're now at the 590 here. So what happened with Jimmy Lange? Yeah, that's fine. Jim... Well, when they originated the show,

Jim had lost his job on television, and they – I remember knowing Jim a little bit, and they'd fired Jim Lang and Jason Portowando. Does that make sense? Do you remember Jason Portowando on Sportsnet? I don't remember Jason that well, but I remember Jimmy Lang. So they let Jim and Jason go on the television side, and they were really amalgamating things, radio and TV, so that – and that's why we're called sportsnet 590 now right like it's it's they've changed that to it's kind of break communication and and a lot of there wasn't a lot of togetherness it's like you when you go to espn in the states you see they do everything together and cross promote well and and the magazine the tv the radio the online and they didn't feel right i think rogers felt a sports net felt they weren't doing

that very well so long story short or um jim uh jim was doing some radio hits in the fall when i got there i was supposed to do 12 to 3 i was supposed to do an hour with kiprios and mclean they'd moved darren millard out of radio and that was hard also because nick and nick and nick and mclean treated me great but i knew they weren't quite sure why Darren had been taken off of radio. But the new program director just wanted to change a lot, and I agreed with a lot of those changes. So it was, I guess, beneficial for me. I'd never been the guy – I'll say this first. I'd never been the guy coming in with someone else getting kicked out.

I'd always been, well, this person left of his own volition, so let's give you the job. This person left of his own volition so let's let's give you the job this person left his own volition so let's promote you so i'd never been coming in and and like i said a lot of fan favorites like you're uh god who they get rid of all in one day i'd heard about this don landry gourd stellick mike hogan um uh there were a couple other people that were were just gone and out the door and gourd was still doing some hockey stuff and um that relationship stayed pretty good and it didn't with the other guys but they they'd hired andrew crystal uh to work it from nine to noon right and they'd hired me from uh why is everybody laughing no i'm just joking and they hired me andrew's all right and then but that was a crazy experiment he's a strange guy well they hired yeah he is he's a uh he's funny uh and they hired me to do 12 to 3 and

they didn't change and they moved bob up to 3 from 3-6 from 4-7. There were a lot of people that didn't like that move, but they couldn't find a morning person. It's well documented. They were attempting to sign Mike Richards and bring him from Calgary. Now, again, Mike, you'd probably remember him doing stuff at the fan. I have no knowledge. I wasn't living here. I don't know anything.

He was helping with Marston and Landry. Was he. I wasn't living here. I don't know anything. He was helping. Was it with Marston and Landry? Was he sort of a, not a third? I don't know. I remember him. A third wheel guy there. I don't know if he had his own show or not, but I used to hear him all the time. He was funny.

Yeah. And so they were working on trying to get Mike and they couldn't. And then Mike signed. So he was going to leave Rogers Sportsnet 960 in Calgary and come to Sportsnet 590 and then I think things broke down as they often can and he signed to go to TSN radio. So then they

Wait, are we laughing again at that? No, not yet. And I might need another job someday. I can only laugh so much. He's got to be careful. They leverage, leverage people. They put Andrew in the morning and i i i didn't know i i think after a month or so i think they realized it was it might have been a fish out of water scenario and had they left him at nine or had he had he been in evenings he was able to stretch

out a bit more but even mornings i don't do the show with with andrew that i thought i'd do i'm gonna get back to jim lang but i don't do i didn't do the show i thought that I thought I'd do. I'm going to get back to Jim Lang, but I don't do, I didn't do the show. I thought I'd do. It's a lot more moving things really quickly and, and not, you can't just take 40 minutes of leaf calls and you, and you can't just give scores. And, and so the, the, the show is so different than the mornings I was doing in Detroit, where you'd be like, oh, Lions played. So we'll talk about Lions for three straight hours right um on a monday morning so um they didn't it didn't end up working out with andrew

um and uh and then so they said you're gonna you're gonna fill in for a little bit i know they were trying to hire i they told me this they were trying to hire somebody else uh i can't say who it is who is can you give us a clue uh He'd worked in the Toronto market previously on the FM dial and wasn't working currently in Toronto. Still isn't. But they were going to work on some things there, and that didn't end up happening. So eventually, and then Jim was kind of –

It's definitely brother Jake Edwards. It's not bro Jake. You're close. I knew that was one of the three. All right, I'm not going to say yes or no anymore. But it's either of those guys. But they so Jim was coming in to fill in with me. And then they said, OK, it's it's Brady and Lang. And and I don't think we you end up. It wasn't a personal tension issue between us. I think they I don't know.

It's it ended up we did the show, God, almost three, three years. And and I think it I don't know, it might have run its course. It's sort of like how, you know, Neil Finn will say I'm done with Crowded House. Now, I didn't say I'm done. But when they when they pitched a change to me and said, do you want do you want to do something different and fresher? And we've got a younger person that we really like. I said, if you want to do this and you think this is the way to go, uh, I'm not, I'm not going to fight it because they gave me a great opportunity. Um, but I, you know, I, I, and I, and I also didn't do it begrudgingly. So it's sort of like, yeah, Neil Finn says, I don't want to do crowded house anymore. I want to make an album with my brother

and, and I want to, then I want to do a solo album. Then I'll get back together, crowded house. So I think it was, uh, we weren't having any issues with ratings. Um, it was just, uh, they wanted, they wanted the show to sound a little differently. I do think it does. I think I'm less, uh, stressed because I think you can, you can be, you gotta be so different, but when you're, you're totally different and you're over the line, it's, it'll drive you crazy personally. Like I more jim's great and that's the one thing i'm like why am i getting upset at this really good guy uh who's not who we're not just we're just not getting into things on air the way we should be and he's frustrated with me and i'm frustrated with him and uh and it's hard i i don't i think you either nail that chemistry, like, say, a humble and Fred or you don't.

And I think we were kind of forcing it, forcing it a little bit. And and eventually we just we just didn't know where to go with the show. But I think I also think, like I said, management kind of knew that, you know, you know, I as a listener and I may have tweeted this. I'd love to know. Yeah, I don't get feedback. Yeah. But as a listener i felt that there was tension and i and and it's hard to say this to your face i felt sometimes and maybe it's because i'm a big jim lang fang jim lang fan um but i felt sometimes that you were perhaps a little bit unfair yeah i totally was no question but i but that also makes for really good radio and that

brings up another good point that you that you mentioned before about the fact that the show now is very much sort of like little short snippets. I don't know if you follow a Toronto Sports Media blog, that guy who writes blogs about – Yeah, I know Jonah. I know who he is. Yeah. He wrote – there was a post recently the last couple of weeks that he doesn't necessarily like radio the way it's going because it is more of what you guys are doing now versus the talking about detroit tigers or detroit lions for three hours yeah yeah um i'm not sure what the right answer is there but um what did you like doing more like well do you like you obviously like this show better well yeah

and you're not i want to say that you're not wrong about about where it was at with jim and and i don't do i think he got a fair shake at at the shift um yeah i do if if you live for three years i think you get a fair yeah if i'd been hit by a bus uh would they have left jim in there and found somebody else to do it with him um i would say that they wouldn't but um but if i'd been hit by a bus they wouldn't take him off the air the next day i don't know how big's the bus how fast is it traveling um but at the same time i mean and and jim could do jim anchored on a national network i could never do that he anchored highlights and and so he's he's he's a quick dude but but we didn't have the same exact um it maybe it was a little bit of a of of a forced marriage but it was the

right thing to do at the time they liked the ratings they knew they knew mike was going over to tsn and mike richards was and um it's again tsn has uh i'll talk about that it's it's it's not um i don't think it's quite where they want it but i don't think it's been it's not a complete and utter disappointment but i don't think it's been the success they hoped it would be they've never beaten us in a in a um a ratings book and they've never beaten us in a morning show book and i'm i don't know that they will it's it's harder you when you're the heritage brand you don't usually that's it the change you got. When you're the heritage brand, you don't usually lose. That's it, the change.

You got to really, you know. I didn't change, did you? No, I didn't. But you got to really, I think you got to really screw up to lose or you need a major game changer. Bob McCown going to TSN Radio changes the game. Right, yeah. Could they, should they have hired Tim and Sid when they were free agents

and put them in morning or afternoon drive? Maybe they should have. But it's, I don't want to say it's too late now, but there's no there was like a weird in radio. Everybody was like a big free agent for a little while. And I was coming to the end of my contract. And there's and there's Jeff out there. And Sportsnet was able to get him when TSN was flirting a little bit with him.

So Sportsnet made a lot of the right moves. And again, it doesn't mean TSN's been an utter disaster. And that's the thing. With Jim, it wasn't an utter disaster. And we could have kept doing it. But he might even say he's happier not getting up and dealing with the tension. you're talking to that person i can't explain it you're talking to that person for 18 hours on air and then there's all the off-air stuff you talk to them more than you talk to your wife so you better you know you better have it's it's a marriage and you mentioned tim and sid and i finally have great chemistry and i i i don't know what they'd say off air you know because the joke was that they hate each other off air yeah but they worked on air sometimes if chemistry is so i mean i was at humble and fred's uh studio yesterday and they're they're not fair yeah but they worked on here sometimes if chemistry is so i mean i was at humble and fred's uh studio yesterday and they're they're good friends and they just it's

like a just the chemistry when they're together broadcasting it's just effortless and they just know when to come in and how to set the other person up but it's older listeners it's like uh you know dean martin and jerry lewis right people would say well you're they're good and then they they just couldn't stand each other or guys in a band. And next thing you know, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, right? Like there's a while in the mid eighties where they're both making solo albums and are the Stones going to get back together again?

And, you know, we're not talking that level of success or tension, but God, it's, yeah, you do need to step out and see. Sometimes the grass is not greener on the other side, and maybe sometimes it's best. It's like people who stay in a marriage. Well, we got kids. We better stay together. Well, you might be doing the wrong thing. They're four and two, and you hate each other. You're going to hate each other when they're 14 and 12, so figure it out. Well, Mike and I just sleep together. We are friends of benefits.

I have yet to have sex with somebody on a morning show i maybe maybe that's in the future so it's fair to say that uh the chemistry you have with walker what's walker's first name again andrew andrew he's from calgary right my he's from skatchewan originally was working in calgary yeah i've never heard of him before like he to me he seemed like and that's was that sort of like a temporary thing and then no no uh he they brought him in for a little while and uh and i i think they knew it would work and it was a chance that he took he had another opportunity that i i also can't talk about not with i'm still trying to think of the other guy yeah yeah put a poll question maybe on on toronto mike.com who was that person left. Yes. But they haven't come back since. This person's still

in a different market. Maybe. Oh, come on. Do they have a drug problem? Have they had kids out of wedlock? That dude in, is he on the air in Toronto

but just doesn't live in Toronto? No. No, not that guy? No. Isn't that that guy in, I think it's probably Tarzan Dan. It was not Tarzan.

I should even say it wasn't. Jesse and Gene. You're narrowing it down. Tom Rivers from The Grave. Oh, bless his heart. You're going to Wikipedia Toronto Radio hosts, and then you're going to get it. Jesse and Gene, last guess. What were we just talking about?

Chemistry? Probably not. What were we talking about? Your chemistry with Walker is better than the chemistry with Lang. Yeah, I think it is. I just think it is. I think Jim might say that, and Andrew would say that, and we'd all say that it just yeah, it's it's ended up it's ended up clicking again. You don't I I'm always wary when if someone were to say to me, hey, meet my wife.

Yeah, we met when we were high school sweethearts. I'd go, oh, no. I mean, maybe that's great and it's a love story, but maybe it's not. And it's all you know, I don't believe there's one person out there for everybody. Maybe it's situational and you just you meet the right person at the right time. But there's there's 30 right people that could come across your I was going to say your desk. But that sounds like it's a boss secretary. That would not happen. Yeah, not at Rogers.

But anyway, no, that's that's one of those things where, yeah, we ended up being able to click and and you're not wrong about tim and sid but i bet you tim and sid i couldn't tell you that but i would tim and sid disagree on where they should go on a show would one of them think god that was a i've had so few issues off the air i worked with a guy uh jamie samuelson on the morning show for five years in detroit there's andrew there's jim where it's it maybe i can't count on one finger on one hand so five fingers uh how many times it's been like that was offside you shouldn't have said that or I shouldn't have said that I apologize it's a live mic and it's it's like what we're doing here and what you guys have become good at doing this it's hard to um you don't have a delete button

so it's not like a new if a newspaper columnist writes that you think they had a chance to take it back yep and on radio look at the the Blindel situation you don't once you once you're once you're going down the wrong road it's sometimes it's hard so don't talk about arabs uh arabs it's like that cure song i'm quoting that's not me talking yeah that cure song killing an arab got banned and and they're like no it's not that's not what it's about but yeah it's like rate me by nirvana remember the people were like uh i don't know who the people were they were saying rape me was like condoning rape and they were just missing the see and i'm glad we've grown up on that on that word because there would be people i'm sure at chw in a sports cast that would be like oh then the canucks uh rape

the oilers last night you're like no no don't do that that's terrible yeah don't say that yeah but that's those are the places where you can oh not anymore probably probably not anymore but yeah you uh yeah you get to test test what works and what doesn't you should know that doesn't that it's not not appropriate yeah i'm worried about time and i have one more 590 question before we ask you we have a few questions about the bbc okay the bb so the quick question about the 590 is it's owned by ro. Have you ever had any influence regarding how you cover the Blue Jays, for example? So Rogers owns the Blue Jays.

Rogers owns fan 590. So I guess you're paid by Rogers. Yes. Have you ever got a note or just some advice, like maybe of how you should cover the team they own? There's, I think there's a suggestion that you, that you,

you don't ignore them when they're not doing well but that's more from a practicality perspective of you know god if they're sucking in august or september you know don't forget about them you are you're not pitching them and yet at the same time you're not going to say that that when they're uh when they're crappy that they're playing well like no one's going to build no one's going to buy into all all the positives i know my my colleague mike willner gets gets a lot of crap from people because he's seen as – Well, he and I – I'll give you an example. He and I had an argument even on Twitter last year where I'm like, God, it's – the Jays' record against the AL East is – it's terrible.

It's 12-21. He goes, Greg, you're – that's funny math because if the Yankees weren't in the division, they – I'm like, but they are in the division. Who's using that fucking math? because of the yankees weren't in the division that you they i'm like but they are in the division who's he does that i'm like they're not about to leave the al east the rest of those games count so but he's uh god i think mike's so interesting compared to just a bland cookie cutter host would be like that's a good opinion he makes you pay attention you either love him or hate him yeah i would love to see the mike wilner show on serious because every answer you'd be you'd be a you'd be a caller and call in and present your case and then he'd be like well thanks for the call you fucking retard uh click and then on to the next one that's just what he is he's so brilliant at

it too because he does it i know he never raises his voice never measured he's generally measured and it's been he's been doing a long time with a lot of teams that haven't won 90 games but i think there's the concept that you know, it'd be better for the rate. Like I said, with the other teams, it'd be better for the radio station if they if they really did well and they go to the playoffs. So we were all really excited by the by the player transactions they made. And and yet at the same time, when they're bad, you we always debate what to leave. Like I'm even thinking Montreal and Boston are tonight in game seven. Is it good for the radio station?

If the Canadians keep going and play the Rangers, is it good for our show or do people want to shift their attention in Toronto right into the blue Jays? Cause they're a game and a half out and they're not too far back. And it's a soft division a quarter of the way through the season. I don't know. I don't know that we, we debate again.

That's why we have meetings and why we talk about it and why our bosses are great because they'll interact. I have good bosses. I really do. That's the thing I should say and mean because sometimes people don't, and they give us really good interaction as to where the big stories are going to go. But when I got to 640 and Corris had the Leafs rights, Bill Waters had been let go by the Leafs, and he had a lot of issues with Richard Petty and Larry Tannenbaum. So that was tough because Bill would want to go and the PD would say, you got to – don't let him steer into this personal territory where he got screwed and Richard Petty is the antichrist. And listen, not many Toronto sports fans should have any great affection for how Richard Petty did things. Those were great condos though, right?

Oh, yeah. It was great fucking radio. When he would go off, wow. It was bad. And so I think there was only one time and they took down, at the ACC, they took down the water show signs. I remember this, yes.

They took down the police lunch signs because he'd gotten so personal about either Tannenbaum or petty so it was um yeah yeah bill sometimes bill would would make it too personally and at the same time like you said bill knew how to entertain the light would go on you'd be like god is you know is he is he gonna bring something today and he'd be he'd be brilliant so i god i learned a lot from him and it was a hell of a hell of a fun time working with him. Just to follow up on my question, not with regards to how you cover the team, but how often you cover the team.

So as a listener, when the transactions happened, and we made the big trade with Florida, and we brought in the Cy Young Award winner from the knuckleballer, Dickie, and we made all these big moves, I think we were ready to give the World Series pennant to the Jays in April. Yeah, you were for sure. Well, my brother sold me on them. So that's my brother's fault.

So this is last April, not this April. So last April, and I would listen to the fan. I'd listen to Bobcat, and they'd be at spring training, and it seemed like 590 became 24-7 Blue Jays hype. Yeah. It was a bit much. I thought it was much and people i think there were people that were critical of there's people that don't like giant corporations so i understand

that about rogers it's like people go ah look jays and this and that i'm thinking you're you're just upset about your cable bill like it's odd it's it's sort of like canada can't if canada post owned the blue jays it'd be this i'm not any letters. I don't want them to get any more of my money. So I think, yeah, it was over the top. It's not the right word, but there was an excess of coverage. It just seemed contrived to me. It didn't seem natural. It seemed like, oh, they're pushing their product to sell tickets and merchandise.

And yet, at the same time, you're not wrong. If you send the show to Dunedin, it's probably going to be like I listened to a bit of Colin Cow colin coward show today and he was doing a remote at a bar near yankee stadium for espn radio and he probably did more baseball today than he would have otherwise he had two great nba games last night not going to talk hockey in the states you're fresh out of you know this michael sam stuff so there's a lot of places you can go but i thought he did more baseball and had more baseball guests so they did more i'd say that that the from every I think I looked on ESPN and out of their 50 guys, let's say it was 50 before the 13 season started. 34 of them picked the Jays's true. Yankees down. Baltimore fluked it. Tampa might have the year they're having this year with a guy getting hurt and them looking like they're not. This finally looks like the year Tampa's going to lose 86 games.

Yeah, it looked like there was a window, and it looked like we had the horses to – But I think there's another year or two. But, yeah, it's sort of the same answer as I said before. It's like the coverage of the team is if they're winning, we will say so. And yeah, we'll look for spots to praise them. And if they're – you affect your credibility big time if you tell people that something that's crappy is good. And I think you do a good job. You were critical of the Jays and they deserved it out of the gate last year.

And I felt like you were critical. It just felt like the volume of Jays' coverage was much higher than it would normally be that's so it's more like the amount of time the it's not that you guys were uh you know but i think that there was a reason to do that though there was a ton it just seemed it seemed excessive considering uh where jays are in this market which is third i think if tsn had done the same thing tsn radio we wouldn't be saying the same thing but the perception is that there was all this coverage because there was all this news and they also happen to be owned by the same yeah tsn but there was a ton of ton of stuff to talk about and yet and buzz i think it'd be unfair if you said well tsn radio probably wants the jays

to lose 110 games because that that impacts rogers bottom line but then then they have a crappy baseball team to talk about all summer. I mean, we're doing the same gigs. We've got to find the same topics. Also, because you have the television rights to the Jays, it's probably in their best interest not to go too heavy on Jays.

More focus on Jays means more listeners to 590. Now we have the hockey play-by-play rights next fall, but TSN kept a lot of talent, and T we have the hockey play-by-play rights next fall, but TSN kept a lot of talent, and TSN will still do a really good job analyzing stuff. What, Bob McKenzie's going to become crappy at his job?

No, he's not. I worked with Bob McKenzie. I worked with Darren Dreger. Those guys are still going to be good, and yet I think it's going to be better for our best people to – like, I'll ask you guys quickly. The Raptors got a ton of attention for two and a half weeks. Would they get the same attention if the Leafs have been in the playoffs

same time? No, they would not. No. Vince Carter, when, when he made those runs, the Leafs were also in the playoffs of the same thing.

This is the first time that they had the spotlight all to themselves and, and they acquitted themselves. Well, fun series. People got so into it and it was awesome for the city, but they don't get that. If the Leafs are playing, you know,

Philadelphia or Tampa in the first round of the playoffs. Right. They may get it on nights where they're they're not playing on the same night as the Leafs are. But you're right. I think on all the other nights around the games that we're not talking about. And the Leafs playoff runs those teams with Matz and Gary Roberts and course. And people are so obsessive about the Leafs. I even from afar, like I'd watch from Detroit and think, the Raptors are, we all knew who Vince Carter was. Vince Carter was getting games on ABC by himself. Like they wanted, they'd go, who do you want,

the Raptors or the New York Knicks on? And they'd go, we want the Raptors, because Vince is huge in the US. And now you're, so then, but I even thought, it's still, Toronto's so hockey mad. And I would even argue the demographics have switched in the last 12 years culturally to where the raptors have an opportunity to make an inroad and they can't ever be the leafs but you guys would know mike when when uh when perry and i were in school

in 93 i felt like the jays took a little piece of the pie away from the leafs that they weren't able to before by winning the world series even though the least were good then i mean 93 was a great year you had leafs going all the way against the Kings, and you had a defending World Series champ repeating. What a great... Maybe it's the best year in 50 years of Toronto sports. It probably is, right? Yeah, I would definitely agree. I mean, you had... You could go up and down

Yonge Street in the spring and the fall. Awesome. Yeah. I'm sad. That was a great time. That was phenomenal. And then the World Cup was around there. You guys are like delicious dish. I can't believe it. Good times. I got to quickly ask you about this BBC work that you do. So you're not just doing work here in Toronto.

This seems so random. I know. It's really random. Because you do the Super Bowl for them? Yeah. Right? I did six Super Bowls in a row. I haven't done, I didn't do the last one.

I'm not doing this year's because Five Live with BBC lostbc lost the uh they didn't lose they lost the radio rights they kind of uh decided not to bid on them they don't know where the games are going to be on radio this year but they were on like a really small like it was like absolute 90s there's like absolute radio over there and this was on the nfl went to the 90s maybe we should bid it's like what are we gonna play hootie and the blowfish or the Falcons and the Lions? And you guys could get in on that. But it's it's well, it's how like when NFL went on to Fox, people like, oh, God, who's going to call? And then they hired Summerall Madden. It's like, oh, that's who they'll be great at it. And yeah, I got to do a lot of the NFL from just the Super Bowl.

Atlanta was in Detroit in January of 06 and Pittsburgh played Seattle. was in Detroit in January of 06 and Pittsburgh played Seattle. And I, the guy, this guy, Simon cross, who's a producer there produced the broadcast, the tele, the,

yeah, the broadcast. And, and they needed another person to sort of give some local color to it. And I clicked in with this guy, Arlo white, who's now ascended. And he's the main soccer voice now on NBC.

He's done amazing stuff for himself. But so we did the super Bowl together, and then people liked it in the UK, and then they announced a game at Wembley, and they played a game at Wembley that year between the Giants and the Dolphins. So they said, well, let's keep Arlo and Brady together for the Wembley game. Then they're like, that went well. So then there's a Super Bowl, then another game at Wembley, and then Super Bowl at Wembley. And then around 2009, they started doing regular season games over here with British commentary, which they hadn't before.

And the NFL's kind of blown up to where there's going to be three games at Wembley Stadium next year. You guys may not believe me. I'm telling you that within 10 years, I think there's going to be an NFL franchise in London. That's my question. Who gets it first, London or Toronto? That's a great question.

I think London has the stadium, and they're ready to go. The only logistics is, to me, because you can do a 16-game schedule. They'll come over and play Chicago and Green Bay over 11 days. Then they'll go home and play two games at home, two games here, two games at home. I think you can do it. When Seattle has to play Miami, that's as long a trip as New York to London is.

There's only 16 games. It's the only league you could do this in. So I think Toronto just needs the stadium, and I think Toronto would support an NFL team. The three teams to watch are the Raiders in Oakland, the Chargers in San Diego, and the Bills. And I don't think we want to steal the Bills. I've always said that.

I don't have an ethical problem stealing the Oakland Raiders and having them become the Toronto Raiders or something, as long as their fans don't come with them. And, and, and yet I think we'd all feel bad, right? In Toronto.

If we, if we stole, if the bills moved to Toronto, I think we'd feel kind of guilty because people who travel to Western New York have gone to games. They're know what it means. And I don't know how they can keep them right now. The round Trump's past Donald Trump's mind. It wasn't. Yeah. And I don't know how they can keep them. Right now, the Ralph Wilson's passed.

Donald Trump's behind him, isn't he? Yeah. Oh, boy. But Bon Jovi, if Bon Jovi is in the mix, he's not going to leave them in Buffalo.

They need a new stadium. He's got a banner at the ACC for a reason. That's right. Yeah, that's right. There's actually a history to the Raiders' name here in Toronto.

There's actually a semi-professional football team that calls themselves the Toronto Raiders. Is that right? So it would be a great fit. I did not know that. Yeah, there you go.

Done deal. What the hell is Fighting Talk? Fighting Talk is like a, it's a very much like a round the horn on ESPN. Which is a great show. With points. Great show. Yeah, yeah.

Did you like it when Max Kellerman did it? Or do you like the Tony Reale? You got it better. I like this. You remember Max Kellerman did it. Yeah, I like Tony Reale. So it's a Saturday thing. I only do it probably every four or five weeks because especially when I move to mornings, I've done it like nine, ten years.

It's been a big hit there. They have a million people listen to it a week. We Brady and Walker do not have a million people listen to it every week. And it's one of those scenarios where it's so it's an only an hour long show. And it's one of those scenarios where – so it's only an hour-long show. See, I think BBC is like CBC, but it keeps getting funding. Now they've had some cuts as opposed to CBC radio. So they love their documentaries.

They love their sort of big-time panel shows. But it's also a sixth morning a week when I've got to get up at 4 a.m. And to get in there for 6 a.m., it's on at 11 London time. And some mornings on Saturday, I'm thinking I don't want to do this. And so I've done it a bit less because it grinds. No one wants to – you're home with your kids, and on Saturday at 2 p.m., you don't want to take a nap. Right. Like I'm not a steel worker. Like it's not – those guys – like again who work 12 14 hour days i'm not them

but i also know when i when i need to sleep so people say when do you sleep and it's like five hours at night and an hour and a half in the afternoon if i can swing it yeah you know what you are you tweet really late at night which i find surprising because you you also know i don't have i'm not paying somebody to do i'm trying to tweet less and less don't you find less is more now i gotta i gotta tweet like when i see mike's tweets, I realize he's riding his bike. Are those coming out automatically? Yeah, I use an app called Map My Ride, and it generates it. I have to click send, so I don't have it set to automatically send,

but it generates the thing, and I just click. And you're doing the ride to conquer cancer. Right, I'm doing that. That's coming up soon. Have you done it before? Never. Oh, God, I've done it three times. I did it last summer, and I did it.

AM640 asked me to do it and they said uh we we need you i'm like i don't cycle and i go you're the only person you're the only one of our hosts who could potentially cycle yeah you actually we're not putting mike stafford on a bike and we're not putting waters going downhill and we talk a lot about stafford that's a whole he fired freddie p as his best man you know i heard about this story fred was telling me this story. See, I don't feel like I've given you enough insight. So let's just repeat that story. I'm trying to get more enemies in the city.

It's not working out. Spill it. Well, I said we've never lost a ratings book, and we never will. So I guess that's good enough. Whatever. I don't know if we'll ever beat the edge of the queue, but we're trying. We need to go to FM. Is that the goal, though?

Does an AM station strive to be at the level of the Q or the Edge? Here's a good nugget for you guys because you're junkies about this. The numbers they showed is either 28% to 30% of people under 30 have never, ever listened to AM radio. I believe that. That's crazy. So when you look at a 25 to 54 demo and you got a 40 year old and a 30 year old hosting a show you're fighting a bit of an uphill battle every sports talk show that's flipped to fm uh every sports talk station that's flipped to fm has their

ratings have gone up like exponentially like the boston station i think it's the sports hub when the bruins had their stanley cup run they were like a 24 share like your gold there are people that the great debate is can an am station get a get a 10 if it's not a news wheel 680 is a it's a monster it's amazing and they have great talent they do a great job and they're in our building but but can 590 climb up to be i don't think ratings have ever been higher at 590 but i don't know if you can be consistently a 10 because you're – there's this huge – it's niche programming. It's men. It's young men. It's not men and women.

Every man and woman needs the news and weather equally, and every man and woman likes different music. I don't know if you're ever going to get enough – we don't get enough women on air or off air to get a 10. But either way, that's the struggle. I think they'd love to have, we don't have any sports talk stations in Canada that are on FM, and I think the second somebody flipped, it would change the game. If TSN did it first, it'd be worrisome for us. We were on a heritage station in Detroit,

WDFN, that was on air in 94, and another station started up in 2000, and we never lost to them, ever, and then they flipped to FM, and they started killing us. And they got the rights to the Tigers and Red Wings and everything, and sports sounds better in FM. You know, you guys know, if you listen online or, you imagine, like when the Leafs were on Q107, probably sounded great, right?

But there's no sports talk on FM. I just have a couple quick hits, and we'll let you go, because we've kept you longer. No, it's great. He's trying to break Merrick's record. Yeah. And Greg, as a survivor, thanks for doing that three times. Yes, man. That's right.

Yeah, yeah. Well, that first day is harder than the second day. That's all I'll say. I'm glad. I could tell you all about it, but yeah. I wish you were doing it this year. I need somebody in my tent. They told me I'm going to have some stranger in my tent. I've got a guy.

Are you breaking up with me on the air right now? This sounds like Blind Date with Roger Lodge. The guy I went with last year is an old friend of mine. I played baseball with him. We DJed together at Spoke in London. Nice. And his brother managed the Spoke. And so he and I stayed in the tent last year. And when

you sleep in the tent at Mohawk College, you're closer. The tents are so close together. I was closer to the other person in the tent at mohawk college you're closer the tents are so close together i was closer to the other person in the next tent than i was to the guy in my own tent because that's just how they are trying to get away from each other yeah yeah you can't you don't have no idea what to expect i know i'm gonna bike 110 clicks to hamilton you gotta tweet a lot about it though and uh and i'll help you i'll help you raise more funds because would you do that yeah i appreciate it uh aaron davis Davis chipped in a bit of cash. Well, that's...

Just tossing around some big time. She's got it, though. She's like... Yeah. Like manhole covers. So, yeah. If you could call any sporting event that you haven't already called, what would it be? Soccer.

I've never really gotten a chance to call a big soccer game. And I'm still that Toronto guy that's having a tough time really diving into Toronto FC. I've gone to games. I'll take my kids from time to time, especially when they're older and they, they play, but it's not the premier league. The premier league is so awesome and European championships are so awesome that I, I just, God, Toronto is such a big city.

And maybe we're, again, we take stuff for granted and we're snobbish, but it's, it's just, it's between double A and triple A baseball. And if I had a double A baseball team in Durham region, I'd go all the time, but we don't. Well, I, I, I've definitely bought into it, but I wonder if the feeling about MLS here is the same as what Swedish people feel about the Swedish league against the NHL, right? Like, are there people that are like, sure. Yeah.

Like, I don't want to watch the Swedishedish league i'd rather yeah we'll watch the davos well i'll tell you in england like my friend simon loves hockey and and he's called uh hockey at a lot of the olympics but is he going to go watch the you know manchester storm play the bracknell bees when the leafs and rangers are on tv maybe probably not okay yeah so i know but i love soccer love it so you call it any particular like would it be like a world cup would it be your uh it'd be uh fanshawe college and uh and humber in a two goal total two game total goal series i called it uh the ontario summer games soccer uh while i was at rw and it's a it's a hard game to call i used to do color for western football um but doing doing

play-by-play for soccer is really really hard because there's not a lot to say yeah and so you really have to be able to fill in the blanks when you don't know anybody on the team because they're like well i did six years of ohl and and they're really well organized and i found cis wasn't as much uh like you don't you're not gonna you get bios and obviously you're going i know who stephen stamkos is and i know who john taveras is and cis football it's just harder it's like yeah i you know there's not going to be a big story on the tight end from laval or the running back from mcmahon you'll get a jesse lumsden but then then everybody knows you know the name but it's it was a lot harder doing cis games and you got very little information and background

even early in the internet age it was really difficult to find out stuff about the teams right if you could intern at any television show past or present what would it be oh man uh that's a really tough question um well sports line probably but i'd want to be you know 18 again 1989 john martin ted tatty and i think i got to i got to meet Hemsher a couple times. I've met Taddy, and that's got to be your goal, Mike. You've got to reunite Taddy and Hemsher and get them down here.

I'm working on it because I am friendly with Hemsie on Twitter, and he's a friend of the Humble and Fred show. Freddie P goes over to CHCH all the time to do stuff for their news or whatever. That's why I brought that up because of the Lang thing. It's weird, it's weird, eh? Because you're like, oh God,

Taddy and Hebbshire and they hate each other and now they, you know, one thinks they're bigger than the other and they have these giant egos and I just, I don't buy that about those two guys. I don't think they would have lasted as long as they did last. What I'm going to do is

I'm going to get Hebbsy to guest and I'm going to get Taddy to guest at the same time, but I won't tell them. Nice, nice. But it's weird. They'll show up and it'll be like the Simpsons episode, the Krusty got cancelled one. They reunite Krusty with

Sideshow or whatever. And yet McCown may think that... I remember talking about Taddy and Hebbs the only time he kind of blasted me a little bit and I'm sure it was 80% sarcasm was I was talking about how good they were on Sportsline. He's like, you know, I started the damn show and I'm like, I know that, Bob. but have you been on primetime has he ever had you

as a guest i've never been a guest i've i've coasted when bob's not there like everyone you guys can appreciate this everybody says well what's bob like and i'm like we don't see each other because he's not coming in at 8 45 and i'm not staying around there at 3 30 so we our paths don't cross us all now and then i'll try and and leave at noon and you'll see Tim and Sid and all that. So, yeah. So last question.

And this is the best one. I think, uh, how excited are you for Mrs. Doubtfire too? That's really happening. Hey, apparently more than,

um, I'm fearful for, uh, a ghostbusters three. I, that I think, like, I can't believe Dan Aykroyd's pushing,

pushing this on. I don't understand. Bill Burry doesn't want to do it. Harold Ramis, rest of soul, is now dead. That's terrible. But I'm not – I don't know what I like less, sequels that suck or the idea of remaking. I was horrified they remade Footloose and The Karate Kid, and I'm going, well, they're good stories. This bothers me.

The new Karate Kid, that really bothered me. Stop remaking these films. How old is your oldest kid? Twelve. So has he seen the new Karate Kid, that really bothered me. Stop making these films. How old is your oldest kid? 12. So has he seen the new Karate Kid? Yeah. But you probably couldn't get him to, could you get him to watch the Ralph Machu Picchu?

I'd have to make him. I'd have to make him. Like Red Dawn, right? Red Dawn just came out, and I'm like, how could it possibly entertain me like the Patrick Swayze one? All these things, yeah. I mean, Star Wars is a great example, too. I mean, it seems like there's some promise for Episode 7,

but the last three were just horrible. But you know what? I actually, I have to confess, because my son was obsessed with these new three Star Wars, and I loved the original three, but the Revenge of the Sith was actually very watchable. Yeah, it is. I watched, I've probably seen it a hundred times

because my son would go over and over. The other two, I cannot watch. That's all I had kids at your, I'm bang on with you. The Phantom Menace is horrible, and the Attack of the Clones is not much better, but the revenge of the sith is actually a pretty cool flick that's weird when that happens because like battlestar galactica i watched when i was like eight or nine oh yes with nerd alert jesus dirk benedict and uh richard hatch and yet and then they start a new battlestar galactica i'm like that'll net like i have bad ideas because even when star trek the

next generation came out like if i'd been a executive at the age of 15, I'd be like, this thing's going to be a disaster. No one will watch it. And it became more popular than the original freaking Star Trek. Because the original Star Trek wasn't all that popular. It was more of a cult following than anything else. And the new generation really propelled it. Let people know on the site. We talked a lot of sci-fi last five minutes.

The ladies are going to fast forward. forget all the sports gossip and bragging they'll forward right to the end of the uh right to the sci-fi well i'm excited for mrs dopefire too i i i love that movie love that movie robin williams is better i like robin williams better doing weird stuff than i do comedy like that one hour photo oh my god yeah the one like the walmart one uh yes it's great it was good in goodwill hunting too i found yeah he's good in that but yeah i don't like great in popeye maybe it's because at my house i've watched frozen about a hundred times in the last 72 hours it's insane i have a five-year-old and a two-year-old and it's just but are they girls both girls oh god see that's the thing the songs come on in the car and my sons want it off so how old are your

sons eight and six eight and a half and six so they they went to the theater and they're not gonna they're not gonna walk out of the theater but afterwards they're like we don't want to they'll tell you after in a theater situation whether they want it on dvd you know what's a racket i don't want it on they don't want frozen elvis you're gonna be here soon uh my daughter's in competitive dance and she does like an acro jazz and she does this thing called hip hop so fine it's a lot of money that's fine fine. But now there's recitals, okay? Yesterday I had to commit to going to, she has to do two recitals, 25 bucks a ticket.

So basically for me to bring my wife to each one, I'm out a hundred bucks to see my own daughter do the recital for dance I've already overpaid for. But you're a hockey dad, so how are you, you're gonna have to sell all this equipment next season for an Easton. Well, my son is a house leaguer.

It doesn't matter. It's got to be still expensive, right? Yeah, it's pretty expensive, but not nearly as much as somebody who might be in the competitive select teams. Had I stayed living in Michigan, I might have put my kids more into hockey because I thought there's more of a chance

for you to be one of the better players. I feel like in the GTA, there's no chance. So stay in house league. Just scholarship. House league is the best. I was a house leaguer. Now my son's followed in my illustrious footsteps as a as a quality house leaguer but mike's the guy who would post his stats on his from should do that hockey db i used to post our slow pitch stats going yeah i used to do that i used to do it yeah

our roller hockey but there's this website pointstreak.com and every hockey league on the planet's now on it so you can like I could still look up roller hockey stats from nine. It's embarrassing. That is great. And I don't, but I've just admitted that I did. So lying, not the first lab told on this podcast.

Tell us the name of that big name. It's not going to happen. It has a vowel. I won't buy a vowel. Is there a vowel money for more vowels? Elvis, I won't sleep tonight. Just warning you ahead of time.

What was it? What was it? He was going to do. He was going to, he was going to, He was going to host the Fan Morning Show. He might still after this airs. Because he's out west, right? Well, what's west? It's like Bill Clinton.

What's oral sex, really? And we won't answer that. And that brings us to the end of our 76th show. You can follow me on Twitter at Toronto Mike. Elvis is at Oshawa Elvis. And Greg Brady is at BradyFan590. See you all next week. We're deleting my name from this podcast, right? That's right.