Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Ivar Hamilton, Teri Hart and Clayton Peters: Toronto Mike'd #1260
Episode Date: May 26, 2023In this 1260th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike is joined by Ivar Hamilton, Teri Hart and Clayton Peters as they discuss the CFNY documentary, the passing of Tina Turner, and their upcoming high scho...ol reunion. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, the Yes We Are Open podcast from Moneris, The Moment Lab, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.
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Today, returning to Toronto Mic'd is Ivor Hamilton and Terry Hart.
But making his Toronto Mic'd debut is Clayton Peters.
Welcome to all three of you.
Thank you for having us.
It's great to be here. So let me tell the listenership that I have Ivor Hamilton and Clayton Peters here in studio.
We'll get to know Clayton a little more and we'll catch up with Ivor.
But I have joining us remotely, even though she's in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Terry Hart.
So Terry, how are you doing?
I'm so good, Mike. How are you? I'm sorry I'm not there
in person, mostly because I love that lasagna so much. Well, listen, maybe I have to bike a
delicious lasagna over to you because I got a lasagna here for one of these two gentlemen.
I actually thought only Iverton was going to be in studio, so I only had one left and then I have
a new delivery coming Monday. But Iver and Clayton are going to have to maybe wrestle
for my one lasagna I have in the freezer.
Which of you two gentlemen wants it?
Should we flip a coin?
We'll flip for it.
How about that?
I was thinking arm wrestling.
If I were you, I would fight harder.
It's really good lasagna.
Fight harder.
Thanks for the tip, Terry.
Don't leave it up to a coin toss.
But I do have fresh craft beer for both Ivor and Clayton.
So you guys will get Great Lakes beer.
Thanks so much.
Thank you.
All right.
So I'm going to start with Clayton because it's like fresh meat.
And then we're going to kind of go around here.
So if you have to leave at some point, because I know how busy you are, Terry.
That's why you didn't have time to come into the studio.
You just have to be like, guys, I'm peacing out, and we'll
all give you a lovely goodbye.
But I'm glad you're joining us, and later it'll make sense
why you're here, because all three of you people
have something in common,
but we'll save that reveal. But Clayton,
Peters,
tell me a little bit about yourself.
Who the hell are you?
Give us a little
101 on Clayton Peters. I should lie down and talk about it. Who the hell am I? Give us a little 101 on Clayton Peters.
I should lie down and talk about it.
Who the hell am I?
Clayton Peters went to Chincoosie, like Ivor and our friends here.
Is that a high school?
That is a high school in Brampton.
I'm also a producer, manager, TV, movie, live concerts,
and manage my little brother, Russell Peters.
Okay, back it up here.
So you are the older brother of Russell Peters.
I am.
Why isn't Russell here today?
He's in Los Angeles right now.
He's got shows this weekend out in Agua Caliente.
DJ starting from scratch has been down here.
We had a quite extensive discussion
about your brother on that episode.
Yes, Granty Pants is our DJ and he's also
a Branton boy as well. Okay. I've been
around the world with him, all corners
of it. Has, starting from scratch,
did he go to Chincoozie? He did
not go to Chincoozie. Okay, I feel like we've
already revealed what you three have in common here
with your intro there. Okay, so you
Clayton Peters. Yes.
You, Ivor Hamilton,
FOTM Ivor Hamilton
and FOTM Terry Hart,
all three of you went
to Chincoozie High School.
That's correct.
Hard fact.
Terry, where exactly
is Chincoozie located
in the lovely city of Brampton?
Well, I mean, let's be clear.
It's the city of Bramalee,
those who know, know.
Oh.
I had no idea.
Pardon me?
I was going, yes, yes, you got it right, Terry.
Yeah.
Okay, but explain that before you continue.
Like, isn't it called Brampton?
Oh, well, I don't know.
Maybe it's totally called Brampton now.
But when I was there, it was very specifically Bramley and Brampton.
They were very distinct places to be from.
And so Bramley was kind of progressive in its city planning,
and they created areas where all the street names started with the same letter.
So don't laugh at that, Mike.
It's not funny.
It was really great for parties when we were in high school.
Party in the J section, party in the G section.
E section for me. I'm an E section. What do you J section, party in the G section. E section for me.
I'm an E section.
What do you mean?
I'm from the E section.
Clayton, where are you?
You're an E section, Ivor?
F section.
Okay, Clayton is F section and Ivor is E section.
What section were you from, Terry?
J section.
Okay, I see.
Now, okay.
Okay, so this is kind of like a way to identify what part of Bramalee you're from.
Yeah, and so Chinkoozie was kind of in like the J meets G section.
Would that be right, guys?
Yeah, that'd be right.
Yeah.
And so, you know, a great school.
I moved actually from Brantford to Bramalee to start grade nine.
And my parents did a ton of research to send me to the best high school because this is the career they wanted for me um and uh like back in the day chinkoozy um was was
the top of the pops it was the cat's meow it was the bee's knees and so my parents made sure that
they were going to move us to an area that my brother Paul and I could go to Chincoozie Secondary School.
And it served me well.
Okay, now I'm looking at Ivor and Clayton.
And then I know what you look like, Terry, because you've been over a couple times.
I'm going to update everybody on like how they can go back and hear more about your career from your previous visits.
But you guys obviously never attended at the same time i don't know if that's obvious i mean i think it's obvious i mean iver's
got to have a decade on you terry come on at least right i'm the old man here yes i'm 51 i'll be 52
in october so i'm really transparent about my age that's how old i am up to up to iver and
clayton if they want to okay. Okay, well, what class?
Do it this way.
In Chincoozie, you were class of, like your graduation class, class of, do you know what
I'm doing?
I think I was 88.
Oh, you're a baby.
Okay, so Terry Hart, class of 88.
Now, Terry, not with us today.
88 or 89.
88 or 89.
But I think 88 because I'm an October baby.
So yeah, I was 88.
88. You're not too sure on that. That's strange, right, guys? Like everybody knows their graduating year. 88 or 89. But I think 88 because I'm an October baby. So yeah, I was 88.
88.
You're not too sure on that.
That's strange, right, guys?
Like everybody knows their graduating year.
Okay, Terry.
But not with us today.
This is not the first time you've talked to me, Mike.
You know I'm a little strange.
Not with us today, but was going to be here,
but has some personal matters to attend to. And we are thinking of him as we record this episode.
But Brother Bill went to Chincoozie High
School. Did you, you must,
you guys must have overlapped, Terry.
Yeah, so he is about
two years older than me, and I hung out with people
who were about two years older
than I was, for the
most part. I had some friends that were my age, but for the
most part, you know, I dated a guy that was
a couple years older than me. Of course you did.
Brother Bill, are we saying his real name?
You can, Neil Morrison, but like when I talk about him on this show,
I use the name that everybody listening knows him as, which is Brother Bill.
Yeah, so Brother Bill hung out with people who I'm now still friends with,
people by the name of Jennifer McMahon, who's now Jennifer Hudson,
Teresa Blanking, Ivor knows some of these folks,
Stacey Thorpe, who is married to Scott Turner,
just to kind of close the,
I don't even know if it closes or opens the loop
on the Chinguzi Secondary School
and tangentially how they're related
to the kind of Ontario, Toronto media scene.
It's a weird thing.
Okay, so that's...
So Neil, Brother Bill, hung out with all them,
and then I ended up working at CFNY
with Neil slash Brother Bill.
But he was like super cool,
super like alternative,
you know, wearing safety pins on his leather jacket.
Right, very punk.
You know, that kind of thing.
So we're going to come back to CFNY.
So you hold on to that.
But speaking of CFNY, Ivor Hamilton,
what's your graduating year at Chincoozie there?
The year that punk blew up, 77.
Love it.
See, okay.
I meant more than 10 years.
Okay.
I'm changing my answer.
Okay.
So 77.
What about you, Clayton?
83.
83. Okay. So we have a nice you, Clayton? 83. 83.
Okay, so we have a nice range of chinkoozy action here.
Now, I'm going to let the listenership know
that if they want to hear more about Ivor Hamilton,
the episode, I'm going to just shout out all the episodes
you've been on, Ivor.
So your debut on Toronto Mic'd was episode 157,
which was way back in February 2016.
Do you look back fondly at that first visit, Ivor?
I really do.
We had a great, every time that I've been on your program, I've had a wonderful time.
We've had some great discussion.
You've got me in the corners on digging some information out, which is fine.
I'm happy to share that.
It's a great experience being in your studio.
And yes, it's lovely.
I think I gave you a hard time regarding
the Bon Jovi banner that was hanging
at the Air Canada Centre.
Listen, there's no issues on that.
There was a reason to do it at the
time. For some reason, it's not there anymore,
but at the time,
I was pretty happy it happened.
It's influential, Ivor. I made it disappear.
Yeah, I got it up there and Toronto Mike had it pulled down.
So here's the description I wrote in February 2016.
I wrote, Mike chats with CFNY's Ivor Hamilton
about his days at the Spirit of Radio.
What years...
See, I'll interrupt my description reading here to say,
Ivor, remind us...
Yeah, I need some clarity on this
and Ivor's history at CFNY, too,
because I'm a little foggy.
You haven't listened to episode 157, Terry?
I'm sorry.
I must have skipped or something.
We went an hour and 44 minutes just walking through that history.
But what years were you at CFNY, Ivor?
I was there from 77 and I left in end of 88.
But I didn't go full time there until 79.
I did two internships and then
i was kind of like the guys in high fidelity i just kept showing up and they were well we
should probably pay this guy and they ended up giving me a full-time job yeah 77 is early days
for cfny it was very early days they had not had their music library put together at that point and
i was like two weeks into my uh at Humber College and they said they need some
help at CFNY uh putting tape on vinyl LPs and organizing their music library so I went up there
and did that for a few weeks and then went back again after that was done in February of 78 on my
you know on an internship uh I got fired from CFNY by the Allen brothers and then rehired on the same day because I was
operating and they said,
the PD said, well, who's going to run the tapes
this weekend? I don't know, that kid that you had,
that Hamilton kid, you can have his job back.
Okay. Man,
and I'm going to finish my description
here and then I'm going to talk about your return to
Kick Out the Jams. Then I'm going to talk about episode
1021 because there was a lot of discussion
about those Allen brothers. But we did talk about
in your initial visit, we talked about your memories
of the late Martin Streak.
We talked about how you are the man
responsible for the Bon Jovi banner
at the Air Canada Centre. And we talked
about what you and David Marsden were up to
and you're still up to that, right?
nythespirit.com? Yes, I've done
I think it's 375 shows
on nythespirit.com. so it is still chugging away
we had one discussion i think in the entire time i've been there about the music that i played
i think he felt that i was playing a little bit a little bit too much punk music and i just said
you told me i could play whatever i wanted that's got to be the deal on this you can play whatever
the play whatever whatever i want whatever. You can play whatever I want. I'm surprised to hear this. Whatever genre.
It only happened once, and I just said,
look, you said I could play whatever I want,
and I'm playing a bunch of punk, so that's what we're doing.
The man literally starred in a documentary called
I Play What I Want, or whatever the heck that doc was called,
whatever that title was.
Yes, but listen, it's fine.
I mean, I have a great time.
It's just, you know, I do whatever.
I play every kind of music on the planet on that program so you know playing punk is not a stretch compared
to some of the other stuff that i've played yeah and you should be able to play what the hell you
want iver gundis you've you've earned it now straight man you came back in august 2017 uh
terry you didn't know this was the iver hamilton show okay So just don't worry. I'm an Ivor Hamilton fan, OG fan.
And I'm a Terry Hart fan all the way.
In fact, Terry, if you don't mind,
just in case,
if you gave me like a 15 minute heads up
when you have to leave us,
then I can like literally shine a light on you
for that last 15 minutes.
Not that we won't talk.
I'm good.
I'm so capable.
I'm here for you, Mike.
I'm here for everybody.
And it's not going to be like, listen, it's
2.21. We got time.
Okay, good. I can slow my roll. Now, August
2017, Ivor
came back. That was episode 257
and we kicked out the jams. You played
your 10 favorite songs of all time. In that episode
you could play what you want. Yes, I recall
that. I didn't have any notes for you want. Yes, I recall that.
I didn't have any notes for you.
I remember that I played a band called the Cockney Rejects.
He goes, oh, Cockney Rebel.
I said, no, no, no.
Completely different band.
I had a lot to learn
from the great Ivor Hamilton.
Then, and I really want to shine a light
on this episode, March 2022.
And this is going to segue over
to a topic I need to update you on.
And yeah, Clayton, don't worry.
We're getting back to you, buddy.
You hang in there.
Okay.
You're getting the lasagna, Clayton.
I've made my executive decision.
Sorry, Ivory.
It's a sympathy lasagna?
It's a sympathy lasagna.
Who's this guy?
No, listen.
You know, you are, Clayton, you're doing a lot of stuff.
We'll get some more details later.
But in March 2022, I hosted an episode for 1021,
1021. And here are the people that joined me on that Zoom to discuss the ongoing history of 102.1
CFNY. These are the people I spoke to. David Marsden, Ivor Hamilton, Liz Janik, Scott Turner, who we mentioned earlier,
May Potts, Fred Patterson, Leslie Cross, Alan Cross,
but Alan's with a C, Leslie's with a K.
Okay.
Captain Phil Evans, Danny Elwell, Humble Howard Glassman,
Rob Johnston, Bob Willett, and Jay Brody.
That was like literally almost four hours.
And that was awesome, Ivor.
What a lineup.
What a lineup.
It was great.
I think it was, and hats off to you for pulling everybody together.
I don't think we've ever had, apart from I think David's birthdays, birthday parties,
but never had anybody together that amount of people in a broadcast together.
And I think that was the wonderful thing about it.
And I think the last gentleman's name that you mentioned
was the morning guy.
Jay Brody was the morning guy at the time.
And he was totally gracious because, you know,
certainly there's such a legacy behind the radio station.
And he was just like soaking it up and said,
I want to learn about the history.
And I loved it.
It was good.
He was so overwhelmed by that history that he up and quit.
And now he works for a station in vancouver ah so jay brody no longer on the air at cfny but uh i did get a lovely note from the director of the cfny documentary uh whose name eludes me
matt schichter okay i got a lovely note to say he listened to that episode in march 2022 2022
and he tells me it was incredible research for him as he planned out this documentary.
So that was like a resource for him as he was planning the CFNY documentary.
And he actually wrote me from a train ride he was taking to talk to Geetz Romo,
in which he said he was listening to Geetz on Toronto Mic'd.
And he wanted to thank me for basically all that research I was doing for him. You know what?
That interview that they did with Geetz
for the documentary I heard went very
very well. I also heard some
of the characters came
out on the interview so apparently Lardette
and McTavish, McRomo
or Beans Rontash
are all making appearances now in the documentary.
So thanks Mike.
Okay so we're going to get a CFY documentary update in a moment,
but I just want to tell everybody if they want more on Terry Hart here.
See, Clayton, you're going to listen to the ongoing history of Toronto Mike,
basically.
But in May 2018, episode 336,
Mike chats with broadcaster Terry Hart about her start at CFNY.
Boom.
NQ107.
Yep.
Her 19 years at the Movie Network.
And then you were at Rogers at the time.
We talked about some personal stuff as well.
That was an hour and 41 minutes.
And then November 2022, which is not that long ago,
you returned with Tara Sloan.
That was fun, wasn't it?
I actually had this vision that whenever Tara was in town and had an hour to kill,
we would just do that again.
I'm in.
Okay.
I'm forever in for a visit with you and Tara together, for sure.
I think she's having a good time down in San Jose.
Yeah, it worked out for her.
I think she broke that news.
I think that press release.
Yeah, she broke that news in that episode.
But she's so talented, right?
that, that like press release.
Yeah, she broke that news in that episode.
But she's so talented, right?
She's just, she has a real,
she's got a real great broadcast sense about her.
And she is, she's,
she's just on the right side of things and doesn't hesitate to speak her mind.
And I have a lot of respect and admiration for Tara Sloan.
And you were both on breakfast televisions
in different cities.
Correct. She was in different cities. Correct.
She was in Calgary.
She did make many appearances on BT Toronto
as well. She might have filled in for Dina, I'm not sure.
And then I was there for about five
years. Absolutely. And we
talked about many things from John Derringer
to Don Cherry. All the greats
were discussed in that episode. Okay.
Ivor, so I saw you, I don't know if you remember this, but I was in line to see Roger Waters to Don Cherry. All the greats were discussed in that episode. Okay.
Ivor, so I saw you, I don't know if you remember this, but I was
in line to see Roger Waters.
This is like last year. Oh, right. Yes,
of course. You and Alan Cross walked by.
Yes, we did. I'm like, hey, there's
some FOTMs. So
I want to know your thoughts on this. I had a brief chat
with Alan about this, but I actually regret going
now. I was gifted the ticket. I didn't actually pay
for the ticket, and I thought I should see Roger Waters from Pink Floyd, but I actually regret going now. I was gifted the ticket. I didn't actually pay for the ticket and I thought I should see
Roger Waters from Pink Floyd,
but I regret it
because I personally deem him
an anti-Semite
and I think a lot of this Nazi imagery
and especially what he just did
in Berlin of all places
where he invoked the name of Anne Frank.
It's highly offensive to me,
but I'm curious.
I know we separate the art from the artist,
but I personally wish I didn't go to the Roger Waters concert.
I'm 100% with you.
I will probably never go see Roger Waters again.
I just thought him mixing his politics with the music,
we weren't there for politics, you know,
and some of those images that were put up on the screen
during some of the Dark Side of the Moon things in the set, I just was like, I don't need this.
And, you know, I still love Pink Floyd.
And I know the exhibition is coming to town very soon, which is an amazing exhibition.
And I will go back and see.
That's one of the best I've ever seen.
But I do not need to see Roger Waters in concert anymore.
No, thank you.
Do not want his politics.
but I do not need to see Roger Waters in concert anymore.
No, thank you.
Do not want his politics.
And I noticed when he was talking about,
he was on the screen,
you'd read about all these oppressed peoples and, you know, he did not actually reference Ukraine.
Like, completely omitted the, you know,
it just, it was all kind of gross.
Clayton, have you ever seen Roger Waters in concert?
I have not.
I'm familiar with his politics.
Uh,
I know he's pretty controversial,
but I haven't seen him live.
What are your jams?
Like,
uh,
we're going to get to this when we talk more about this reunion,
uh,
Chincoozy.
Chincoozy.
Yeah.
Terry,
didn't you have a question for Clayton?
Tell me about your,
uh,
cheerleading at Chincoozy and how it helped you.
Oh,
I will. Um, I will.
I was a cheerleader in high school.
I'm proud of it.
And it was helpful to learn how to spell the name of the school that I attended because, you know, Chincoozie can be a challenge.
So can you spell it, Ivor?
C-H-I-N-G-U-A-C-O-U-S-Y.
Woo!
Points.
Points for spelling chinkoosie.
Yeah, when I spell it, I still have to spell it as the cheer in my head.
C-H-I-N-G-O-O-S-E-Y.
This is just something, Terry, for you and for Clayton,
I just wanted you to know, and maybe you don't know this,
that they're no longer the Chiefs.
And in 2016, they changed to the timber
wolves i think that's great i saw that on uh facebook and then there was all people getting
all like oh i can't believe they changed the name of the chiefs to the timber wolves i'm like
really you can't believe they changed the name like does the name of your high school football
or rugby team mean that much to you anyway people are funny about those things they are
uh i was glad to see they changed it. I think it's a good change.
Yes.
Yay for that
change. I remember a local high school
where I grew up was the Runnymede
and they had a great basketball program and they were
the Runnymede Redmen.
They changed that name quite
a while ago and I think to the Ravens or something
like that and it was a smart
move. We were a rugby school, right? Like, am I remembering that? Yeah. The rugby team,
Clayton, maybe you, cause that wasn't during my era. Do you want to, yeah, the big, excuse me,
sorry. Uh, the big thing for the rugby team was when they went to Wales, right. And they remember
they did the rugby, the rugby team went to Wales and then they all wore, I mean, and rugby shirts
at that time, just coincidentally, rugby shirts and rugby pants were like a big style.
So it kind of coincided with the two.
But I mean, you were the BMOC.
You're the big man on campus if you're rocking that Ching rugby.
The BMOC.
Yeah, you were rocking the rugby shirt.
Can I borrow that BMOC?
I don't think I've heard that before.
You've got FOTM, so you've got it all.
You can have the BMOC and the FODM.
Well, you're now an FOTM, Clayton.
Thanks, man.
So congratulations.
I remember learning about cauliflower ears
because we were a big rugby school.
Boxers get that, right?
Yeah.
And they get those big thighs.
Sounds like an odd observation,
but I remember some of the guys, Frank Fuge,
they were these really squat guys with these massive thighs.
We had a rugby team called the Wolfpack.
I think they're coming back in some form,
but I was lucky enough to have season passes to the Toronto Wolfpack,
and it was highly entertaining.
It was great to watch rugby.
It was great.
Yeah, no, our school rugby team was good.
I don't think we held our own in any other sport.
You know what else we were great at?
Women's field hockey.
We had a great women's field hockey team in my years at Ching.
But Terry, did you play field hockey?
No, I was a cheerleader.
I was a cheerleader and I was in the drama club.
Did that field hockey team represent the demographic change
that was taking place in Brampton at that
time too? I think it might have had something to do with that.
I wonder if it did. Maybe. Because the rugby
went back to sort of the Anglo-Scottish
Irish-English
roots of Brampton
in the 70s going into the 80s and then of course
there was the
you know, my people kind of came in.
Which is, yeah, I mean
things change.
It was one of the great things about Chinkoosie as a high school that I went there is like,
it was really, really a super multicultural school
in a great way.
And I think that you felt that in a lot of the music
that was happening at school dances and fashion
and things that were going on in those years
that I was there.
It was one of the things that I loved about the high school so much.
OK, so before I get to the CFY documentary and some questions that came in, let's not
bury the lead here.
I think we've teased everybody long enough.
What's the big deal with Chincoozie and you guys?
Like, you know, we wanted Brother Bill to be here.
He was going to be here, but sadly couldn't make it.
And we have well, we have the brother of Russell, dare I say, Clayton Peters.
We have Terry Hart here joining us remotely.
We have Ivor Hamilton.
Like, what's the big deal?
Brampton High School, Chincoozie.
What's going on there?
It's the 50th anniversary of the school.
And it really is a landmark occasion.
And we want to celebrate that, invite people back.
A lot of people that went to the
school moved out of brampton uh and are in other parts of the province so we felt that perhaps
getting us together people being uh alumni from the 70s and the 80s could really um get the message
out that we'd love to have you and that's that's happening next weekend on the on the second and
the third so june 2nd because you know sometimes they people listen like years later so june 2nd and 3rd 2023
out you'll be like yes i'm here it's like oh no it's the 52nd anniversary okay 50 and counting
where do we send all these chinkoozy alumni and us alumn. Alumni. Well, the first thing I want you, well, if you love you to buy a ticket to our Saturday event,
and you can get tickets on eventbrite.ca chinkoozy50reunion.
Easily get your tickets there.
We are also running a social event on the Friday night at Spot 1 in Brampton at 289 Rutherford Road South.
Friday night at spot one in Brampton at 289 Rutherford road South.
And this is,
this is going to be very big because Clayton and I are getting on the wheels of steel.
We really are.
Okay.
What kind of music will you be spinning on that Friday night?
Well,
go ahead,
Terry.
First,
Terry.
I just want to say that Ivor has done like four playlists for the 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s graduates of Ching.
And they're sitting on Spotify right now.
And I was looking at the 80s playlist and it's bananas great.
It's so, so good.
So check those out before you show up next Friday night for these two to be on the wheels of steel.
Okay.
So Friday night, that's I'm looking at my calendar. That's the 2nd of June to be on the wheels of steel. Okay. So Friday night, that's, I'm looking at my calendar.
That's the 2nd of June, 2023 on the wheels of steel.
We've got Clayton Peters.
What kind of music will you be spinning?
Well, that's a good question.
Ivor and I had a, had a chat about this and I think I threw him a little, I threw him
off a little bit by, by some of the stuff that I had on there.
Cause I sent him my playlist last night and I think I started with with um was it uh hollow notes hollow notes is
where i started and then i went to fleetwood mac but then when you get further down in the playlist
it ends up there's elo in there and then um it ends up with the english beat new order
uh depeche mode uh i think i've got the smiths in there as well um and i had some deep deep tracks
in there but there was only that playlist currently sits at about
four hours and 53 minutes.
So I don't think I'm on for that long.
But I've got a lot to choose from.
I've got a pretty wide taste in music.
So this is what I'm going to do.
That sounds fantastic.
It's not bad.
It's a combo of Yacht Rock, New Wave,
and some 80s hip-hop as well.
You'll be there, right, Terry?
This is Friday, the 2nd of June. You'll be there.
So full disclosure. She's not going to be there. In your cheerleaders outfit.
I'm going to be at the Blue Mountain Film Festival on Friday.
So I don't know if I'll be able to boot down
Airport Road in time to get to Friday night.
But I'm going to try my damnedest to be there on Saturday night
because too many happy smiley faces there that I want to see again.
So anyway, I was going to say, Terry, that's wonderful.
We can't wait to see you.
It's been a while.
So what I plan to do on the Friday night is I've dusted off the 1200s
and I'm going gonna spin only vinyl uh
mainly seven inches so I'm probably gonna cart in about three or four hundred seven inches
and work like I've got what Clayton's gonna do so we're just gonna work off each other hopefully
we'll do like maybe a couple of a couple of sets so we can have you done a tech check I'm just
want to say have you done a tech check to make sure that they can accommodate this i have i have spoken to the club i have spoken to the dj we've
talked about all the connectors and we we looks like we've got things in order we'll make it work
and don't you have signage from the uh yeah yes i i have the original cfny roadshow sign from 1980
the very first roadshow sign and i'm pulling it out of storage it's the
only other place that you'll see it uh is will be in the documentary but nobody it has not been
seen in public in probably 30 years if not more amazing that's amazing wow it's worth the drive
on airport road terry just for that rutherford road so we're gonna have we're gonna have a lot of fun
it's uh it's 10 bucks to get in for that and really great but saturday here's one of the
things that we're doing on saturday yeah um we put we're actually i did just in the spirit of
the cfny video road show we've got a video dance party to warm things up on the Saturday night. And used Scott Turner, myself, and Alan and Liz Janik picked a lot of the music.
So this could be like a 90-minute warm-up thing.
And then DJ Rami, who's a Brampton favorite, he's going to take the rest of the evening.
And Clayton, you know Rami from way back in the day too?
I do. I used to work with him and his brother.
Well, let me just jump in about Brian Ramsemi.
Brian Ramsemi hosts Club Q, which he does on Twitch. rami from way back i do i used to work with well let me just jump in about brian ramsami brian
ramsami uh host club q which he does on twitch and he did it during the pandemic um every each
and every saturday night kind of all night long i think and he raised thousands and thousands of
dollars for the hospital for sick children he did it all for free like from his home he's a great
dj and he's also just a great person he was in the cohort that was about two years older than I am.
And I've,
I've known Brian for God,
you know,
a lot of years,
over 30 years now.
So,
um,
great that he's going to be DJing the event on Saturday night.
And I did,
we did have a conversation though.
I said,
Brian,
if you play the Mac arena,
you won't get paid,
dude.
I got to take that off my playlist.
That's going to bring back a lot of memories for people, Ivor.
It's going to bring back a lot of memories.
Just having some fun.
Yeah, it gets people on the dance floor for some reason.
That's for sure.
That's for sure.
Okay.
I saw Billy Idol's Money Money on your playlist, Ivor,
and all I could think of was all of us
yelling,
get laid,
get fucked,
in the auditorium,
in the cafeteria.
Terry,
do we know where,
no, no, no,
it's about that.
So we did that,
obviously,
we did that at my school.
I went to school
in Toronto,
like the borough
of Toronto
in the city of Toronto
and we were doing
that exact same thing
that they stopped playing at the dances
because we were doing that.
I'm curious, do we have any idea where that started?
Like that, I don't know.
We just all did it.
I remember it all of a sudden happening out of nowhere
when we used to do the video roadshows at schools.
And we had been playing it for a while.
I will give you full disclosure too.
Personally, I was not a fan of the billy idol
version so the road show used to play the original tommy james and the shondells version all the time
right um anyway but i just remember out of nowhere all of a sudden we'd be school and all this
happened in high schools and all of a sudden this was happening it was like where did this come from
maybe 87 am i right something like that would have been around that maybe even 86 more like 86
and we're like oh and it was just a phenomena that happened out of schools and that was also
too that the violent femmes were and i think we've talked about this on this before that the violent
femmes got played on cf and white not because we decided to do it was because all the kids in the
school were like man add it up do it like you know we got to do this this was like go back to the station i said there's about five schools all
love the violent femmes but you guys have to censor it or did you just play it we just we
we just played it but i will i um we got banned from the halton uh peel halton school board for
a couple years because we played the video for Girls on Film, which was probably a dumb move at the time. If you know the video.
It's just bikini, right? Just bikini.
I got it on my phone actually.
Clayton's watching it right now.
If I was going back now, I was like, yeah, we were probably,
yeah, we could have been a little smarter about that back then.
But it is, the moany moany thing, it is interesting in a time before the internet,
that something could be like, I think all around the world, schools learned about this hack, if you will, and implemented it.
And it's wild because it's not like we were all subscribed to the same like newsletter.
Like we just some kid introduced it at our school and we did it. We all kind of did it at the same time.
It's wild when you think about it. Right, Terry?
Yeah, it's totally wild. You know, how that kind of spread with that song. And then on top of it, how I could just even look
at those playlists that Ivor created for Spotify and take me right back to being in the cafeteria
of the high school and think about those school dances and thinking about wearing like a red
shaker knit dress. I know I'm sitting with like three guys thinking about wearing like a red shaker knit dress.
I know I'm sitting with like three guys virtually here, but the red shaker knit dress with the really long pearls, very Madonna-esque.
That was what I wore to my very first high school dance.
And like it was looking at the playlist that I ever sent that I was like, you know, that's why remembering these things and talking
about a high school reunion and talking about the music of the time, that's why it's kind of
important, right? Like it brings you back to that feeling of, you know, butterflies in your tummy
when you were going to a high school dance or like saying, get laid, get fucked in your high school,
you know, cafeteria, which was so risque and so out of control,
dancing to Stairway to Heaven.
Why did they always end every high school dance
with Stairway to Heaven?
Who started that?
It was just the longest song, I guess.
Well, I will say that we try to push the envelope on that.
At CFNY, we ended it with Art of Noise, Moments in Love.
That was the closing.
Now, Clayton was also a DJ back in the day and dj'd
at ching we did we did a couple of the dances at ching it was uh alvin silberio cyril saifu myself
we had the big clip speakers we had uh i remember we had dry ice at one of the shows too we we did
a few dances at ching yeah that was it was pretty cool and i think ours i gotta say not to be too uh
self-centered but we we did we did some pretty kick-ass dances back at Ching back then.
And I remember, you know, there was somebody who was really wasted
and they stuck their head in the big Klipsch speaker
for Divine's Native Love.
And we had it just pumping out full blast
and they had their head right into that speaker.
And I'll never forget that.
That was amazing.
Okay, so we're going to come back and say it again.
Ching-coo-zee?
Yeah.
Because when you read it, it's like there's supposed to be a syllable between Ching and
coo-zee, right?
Ching-a-goo-coo-zee?
Ching-wa.
Ching-wa-coo-zee.
Ching-wa-coo-zee.
But I can skip the gua.
I think it's like Ching-a-wa.
Ching-a-wa-coo-zee.
It's indigenous, right?
So do we know what it means?
Land of the tall pines.
Okay.
Look at this. Land of the tall pines. Okay, look at this.
Land of the tall pines.
And it still exists, right?
Like kids are still going to Chincua Cousy.
Yes, yes.
Okay, because my high school got bulldozed.
It's gone.
I will say the school has been actually very well preserved.
It's been renovated.
There's been additions put onto it.
And I hadn't been in there in over 25 years and walking in it in the last month a couple of times.
Hats off to them.
They've done a really, really good job of updating things.
And it seems like it's a good atmosphere for the current student body.
Clayton, is your brother the most famous graduate of Chinguacuzzi High School?
He's one of the most famous people to be kicked out of Chinguacuzzi High School and asked to leave.
Both him and myself.
Scandalous.
Slow down here, Clayton.
He was asked first.
They thought he had some developmental issues.
So they sent him over to North Peel.
So how many years did he attend Chinguacuzzi?
I think he was there for at least two or three.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's why he's not making the flight back to Brampton for the reunion.
He's got a gig that night. He's got some stuff. Yeah, he's got some stuff on the go right back to Brampton for the reunion. He's got a gig that night.
He's got some stuff.
Yeah, he's got some stuff on the go right now.
We're mid-tour.
He's in Connecticut.
I looked at the schedule.
Clayton has wrestled my age.
Is he a couple years older?
He was born in 70.
Yeah, and I'm 71, so he's a year older.
I think he's buds of Brother Bill, right?
Like your brother's friends of Brother Bill.
Well, I was actually with Neil.
Neil was friends with all my club buddies,
all my sort of CFMY friends from that time,
the Piedra brothers, Dave Piedra.
We used to call him Husker Dave because he loved Husker Do.
Right?
So we called him Husker Dave.
And so Neil was good friends with Dave in particular.
But Neil always had this great, brother Bill,
had this great positive energy.
Even back then, he just sort of
radiated this really solid positive energy he was always smiling i mean he was a big punk looking
guy but there was nothing intimidating or daunting about him he just had this really great energy
even back then amazing yeah amazing terry remind me what years were you at CFNY? Sorry, did you ask me that, Mike? Yeah, sorry.
Terry Hart.
Oh, shit.
I was at CMFNY from 93 to 96.
I think I...
No.
90 to 93.
90 to 93 and then Q107, 93 to 96
and then started at TMN in 96, I think.
Okay, 90 to 93.
Ivor, remind me, this documentary that's in production,
and we're going to get a thorough update here
because everybody wants to know,
what years of CFNY is it covering?
Well, I want to set the record straight here
because I see my buddy Alan,
who's one of my dearest friends,
he keeps saying 1978 to early 90s.
It really is more so early 70s uh up until early night maybe 1992
latest but we do cover the very early years in that because it's really important to uh get the
background of how things started and and so we are covering those early those very early years and it really is you know when the station kind of
imploded at the end of 88 when the top 40 music came in um that is covered and then it kind of
and when it came back again when that that regime left uh when it came back slightly so it kind of
wraps i will say it kind of wraps into the Barenaked Ladies era.
So I think that's, you know,
a fair assessment of it.
So it really is,
the story is really the story
of Spirit of Radio,
the Spirit of Radio.
Okay.
I'm going to end with them
walking in with that yellow cassette.
Yes.
Yes.
Can I ask Terry a question?
Yeah.
So as a Brampton girl,
if you don't mind me calling you
a Brampton girl.
I'm fine.
You know, going to high school and Bramampton growing up there and then eventually working at
CFMY was that like a dream that you had when you were uh before that was that something that you
aspired to was CFMY specifically someplace that you wanted to go to no I was never that cool
Clayton I mean it was only the cool people that were there my My brother was that cool. Um, but we had moved to Brampton just when I started grade nine. And then it was, um, I don't know. He probably wasn't there when either
of you, maybe for you, Clayton, but Jeff Stahl, Mr. Stahl, he was a drama teacher and he kind of
changed my life and told me to go take radio broadcasting at Humber college. Cause I didn't
know what I wanted to do anyway. And then I was like was like well there's this radio station in Brampton I might as well get a job there I was that ignorant
and that you know obnoxious frankly and uh I kind of walked into CFNY and was like hey so I'm
taking radio broadcasting at Humber College can I get uh you guys should hire me and noni raskin who was the promotions director at the time working with
phil um was like who is this kid like everybody else comes in there huge music fans knowing the
history of the radio station all the rest of it i was just like a kid trying to get a gig and um
but then i i immediately uh learned and and um garnered maybe a bigger respect
for the legacy of the radio station and what they had been responsible for
in terms of music in people's lives and playing things
and introducing people to bands and artists that they weren't hearing anywhere else.
And I really think that what Spirit of radio was um was a lifestyle for
a lot of teenagers and it was um kind of validating for teenagers who weren't from Toronto proper who
were living in the suburbs that this radio station was in a strip mall in Brampton Ontario somehow Ontario, somehow that that led some kind of credibility to your own existence of not living
in downtown Toronto. Maybe I'm too romantic about it, but those are all the things that I kind of
think about the station. I think you're bang on. I think it was a unifying force. When you talk
about the Billy Idol and how everyone got into it, I really do believe that CFMY was sort of the
and how everyone got into it.
I really do believe that CFMY was sort of the center of the universe for all of that, and it unified everybody in and around our ages
from the GTA.
It really was meaningful.
Yeah, there was something special about it being in Brampton too,
this city that was so multicultural, that was so influenced
by first- gen immigrant families and you know
CFNY was bringing us music of the world it felt like you know I know it wasn't exactly but back
then hearing music from the UK hearing music from felt really really important and really really
different and when in Brampton, when we were so multicultural,
that seemed to fit somehow.
I don't think I could have articulated that
being a 17-year-old in grade 11 or grade 12 at Ching,
but looking back on it, I think that that's all true.
Okay, well said.
In fact, I think we'll record that for the documentary, actually.
There's got to be room in there for that.
We'll talk to Matt about adding that.
I'll send a note to Matt later.
And Clayton's interviewed in the documentary as well.
There we go.
Yeah, I would like to say that I'm not interviewed in the documentary.
But you're not interviewed in the documentary as a CFNY personality,
but you could be interviewed as a Bramptonian fan.
I feel like there's room in there. Well, there is one last call out for CFNY fans.
And if you'd like to have a say in the documentary,
we're going to, if you have some great stories,
you can reach out to myself at Ibrahim at iCloud.
That's I-B-A-R-H-A-M at iCloud.com
and tell me that you would like to be a part
of this documentary and tell us your stories,
good, bad, or indifferent.
And that is kind of like one of the final pieces
for the documentary is to get some real fans
of the radio station that weren't necessarily
announcers and musicians.
Great idea.
Well, it's so important to have listeners
talk about the radio station because we know
we changed a lot of people's lives.
Well, I'm going to send a note to FOTM Paul
Romanuk because I have had so many, uh,
conversations with Paul about CFNY and his love
for that station back in the eighties.
So we got to get him in there.
Okay.
Ivor Hammond, iCloud.com.
Yes.
Okay.
So we kind of got a taste of the documentary,
but now I need like an update where we're at
with it and any details you can share. Cause a taste of the documentary, but now I need like an update where we're at with it
and any details you can share,
because a lot of people listening to us right now
are big fans of the station and looking forward to this doc.
So at this point, we did about 65 interviews.
We've got like, I don't know, 120 hours of footage to be edited.
And we filmed obviously here in Toronto at the Elma combo. We, from basically
November until the last month or so we filmed in Los Angeles where we got live Earl jive and, uh,
members of the cure. Uh, we did deadly, dead, deadly Headley in Las Vegas, and then went up
to Vancouver and talked to brother Bill and captain Phil and a couple of other folks there.
Uh, and then there was a run in the UK where we managed to talk to, uh, the Buzzcocks gang of four
new order, uh, a couple of other ones, Daniel Richler. So there was some really, you know,
we got a very wide variety of acts. There were some acts that we reached out to,
couldn't remember, which kind of blew me away.
But I understand when you're a band that were popular 40 years ago.
A lot of drugs involved.
Well, sure.
They would remember the city and not remember the station.
But that's all good.
We totally understand that.
What about Barenaked Ladies?
Barenaked Ladies are a part of it. Absolutely.
So,
um,
and just about everybody lowest of the low lowest of the low we're,
we're interviewed teenage head.
We're interviewed Martha and the muffins.
Um,
yeah,
it was,
we got a very,
very extensive list of artists.
Uh,
we have one or two,
uh,
left to go.
Um,
a couple of big ones. I'm not going to reveal those but they're
essential to get across the finish line so um i'll leave that to the imagination but we're
okay and then then the long-term plan is to is to uh have it we'll have it edited this year and
hopefully fingers crossed i mean to get it into one year, and hopefully, fingers crossed,
to get it into one of the major film festivals
to premiere in 2024,
followed by a theatrical run
and then on to streaming services.
And there were so many great stories
as part of this documentary
that it behooves us to not make use of that,
uh,
things that won't,
that won't make it into the documentary that we can see this perhaps being a
podcast series and a book down the road.
And because there's so many other things that,
uh,
that,
that could be brought to life.
Can you spell behooves?
Uh,
with a B.
All right.
Big question that came in from DJ Dream Doctor.
And it's a question I would also like to ask.
So let's hear it.
Is Chris Shepard in this documentary?
If anybody knows where Chris Shepard is,
he is the, it's been a very, it's been a huge challenge.
We have not been able to locate him.
I've been looking for him for several years now myself.
Yeah.
So Chris Shepard at this point isn't in there.
There's a lot of people talking about Chris Shepard.
I'll give you that because Shep was such an integral part
of the radio station, but he doesn't live in Canada anymore.
Do we know that for a fact?
Yes, we do.
Okay, because I've had several sources.
I was told Costa Rica by a bunch of people,
and then some people said he's in King City,
and then some people said he's hiding in plain sight
in downtown Toronto.
I don't know what to say.
You know, with what you've just said,
perhaps he is in King City,
but we have not been able to locate him.
I'm going to throw you a couple of breadcrumbs on that after.
Okay.
Let's do it right now.
What are you doing?
Come on, Clayton.
You got a couple of leads?
No, no.
I might have a couple of leads for you
through maybe Kim Clark-Champmas.
Okay.
Okay.
I've been in conversation with Kim about this too.
And Kim knows,
Kim and I were out for dinner over a decade ago.
This is the documentary series,
Searching for Chris Shepard.
That is a documentary unto itself.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Terry, you don't know where Chris Shepard is, do you? I itself. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. Terry,
you don't know where Chris Shepard is,
do you?
I don't.
I,
I wish I could help there.
I can't,
but yeah,
I was,
I was there in part of the heyday of Chris Shepard.
It was,
it was a tear up.
It was a fun,
fun time.
So when you talk,
when you had private conversations of Chris Shepard,
when the,
the red light was not on,
did he sound like a normal Canadian guy
or did he talk like
this when he was talking to you, Terry Hart?
He talked like that pretty much
all the time. It was Chris.
I mean, in a great way.
But Chris was really generous.
Chris would throw great parties.
After club gigs,
there was often champagne.
I believe I drank my first dom perry home with
chris shepherd um yeah no regrets at all about those years it was really fun and an extraordinary
there was you know it's such a different time there's money flying around at those club gigs
too right like people were getting paid a lot of money rpm yeah and um you know it was
there was a lot of drugs there was a lot of money the rave scene was really out of control
or really wonderful depending on your point of view um but yeah it was a it you know in sometimes
it was in some ways it was a relatively innocent time.
I mean, there wasn't fentanyl, there wasn't that problem,
and people were getting really high and having a really good time.
Ecstasy was a thing at the time, and it was really fun for people,
and that wasn't the only thing that was going on with chris shepherd and
and that part of cfmy programming but it was certainly part of the culture of the station
for those years would you guys agree with that yes yes absolutely and i i do know that a lot of the
that whole fun times with the clubs and all that money that was floating around a lot of it just
came to an end for the radio people uh mostly because of canada
revenue who uh decided to audit radio stations and so it became a situation where a lot of the
djs used to get paid under the table for doing those gigs and then all of a sudden they were
saying no you can't do that anymore and uh people got audited so that kind of added, you know. They ruin all the fun.
Yes.
If they had only known how much people were spending on drugs,
they really would have ruined the fun.
Yes, yes.
The greatest argument to legalize drugs would come from the CRA.
They're like, we want a piece of that action.
Let's go, let's go.
Okay, so we talked about the Palma Pasta that I've decided is going to Clayton.
He's such a good sport. And also make it his debut. I want him to leave with good memories. You're taking home the Palma Pasta that I've decided is going to Clayton. He's such a good sport.
Also make it his debut.
I want him to leave with good memories.
You're taking home that Palma Pasta.
It's in my freezer right now.
It's all good.
Beer for both of you.
I feel bad.
Why don't you invite Ivor over to eat some of it?
I'm happy to.
You know, Ivor's mom was my home ec teacher.
I didn't know that.
Yes.
Mrs. Hamilton.
I would have opened with that.
Mrs. Hamilton was my home ec teacher at Chincoozie.
Wow.
Yeah.
My mom was a teacher. Your mom taught at the school?
My mother, yes.
He's wealthy.
He's pedigree.
Mrs. Hamilton taught at Chincoozie from 1972 to 1990 when she retired.
Wow.
She was a lovely lady.
I was never in her class.
It was a conflict of interest.
I was certainly under the umbrella. I was a good of interest. I was certainly, I was certainly under the umbrella.
I was a good student and I didn't skip off and I behaved well,
somewhat behaved,
but,
uh,
that's amazing.
Oh my God.
I like,
I always kind of thought it would be cool to be in my,
like if one of my parents was a teacher and to be in their class,
but maybe not,
maybe it would be a nightmare.
No,
it doesn't sound cool to me.
You'd have to get,
you'd have to study a lot harder. I think that people wouldn't see it. If you got good marks, people would be in their class, but maybe not. Maybe it would be a nightmare. No, it doesn't sound cool to me. You'd have to study a lot harder, I think,
and people wouldn't see it.
Also, if you got good marks, people would be like,
oh, the fix is in.
The teacher's buddy with your mom,
of course you got good marks.
It's a lose-lose, I think, if you will.
Look at that.
I didn't know your mom was a teacher at the school.
That's so great.
Thank you.
Thank you.
She was lovely.
She was a very, very nice lady.
Very, very nice lady. Thank you. And she taught you home ec, Clayton?
She did. Yeah, she sure did.
And that's how we know Clayton's
going to figure out how to make this
delicious lasagna. He had the home ec training
from Mrs. Hamilton. Okay, so Great Lakes
for everybody. But Terry,
close your ears. You're missing out on some good swag
here. I have
wireless speakers, one for each of you.
You're taking that home with you.
Bluetooth speakers, courtesy of Moneris and Clayton with that quality speaker.
Jeff Rogers wrote me a note this morning to say he's listening to his Moneris speaker all the time.
He says it sounds great.
So you're going to listen to season four of Yes, We Are Open, which is an award-winning podcast from Moneris.
Yeah, shout out to the police.
It says Box Ann on the cover there.
So shout out to the Garys.
Oh, very nice.
So yes, Al Grego hosts Yes, We Are Open.
It's an inspiring podcast.
He's been talking to small business owners,
and Al was here earlier in the week to kick out the jam.
So you got that season four of Yes, We Are Open.
I just also, if I can go back to the reunion at the school next weekend,
we invite people to come out early on the Saturday.
We are, doors are opening at three o'clock and we have,
we're doing some open mics.
We're doing decades open mics of seventies, eighties, and nineties
with our former teachers and former
students i'll be hosting the 70s one and clayton will be on the 80s one and we have a ching tv
exclusive we have an interview done by myself and brother bill with russell and he's going to talk
about that's exciting yeah i think that people will really enjoy.
He's got a lot of great things to say about Brampton,
your family.
He's not bitter about the fact you guys kicked him out?
No, that was the best thing that ever happened to him.
No offense to Ching.
But the trade school was really good for him.
He really found his people there.
Not that there was anything wrong with the people at Ching,
but it was actually a positive thing for
me. But now that begs the question Clayton did you ever consider yourself a stand-up career?
No no I was always too shy I actually wanted to go into radio but first generation immigrants my
dad was really really worried about the fact that there was nobody who looked like us in radio at
that time and he said his his position was know, when you start off in radio,
you have to go to all these small towns and kind of do a circuit and things like that.
And he was very concerned about possible racism,
which was really, really strong late 70s, early 80s, especially in Brampton.
And we dealt with a lot of it.
And he was concerned that going to these small towns,
it was almost like, you know, you see in the movies
where they come with the pitchforks at some point, if you do something
wrong and he just wanted to protect myself, protect me from, from having to go through that.
And he was also very disappointed in that he wanted to be a journalist and, um, and was rejected from
it because of, uh, well, because it was pigmentation, although with the anglicized names that we have.
And so he didn't want us to kind of
go through that sort of pain. So he dissuaded me from it. Okay. But it all worked out in the end.
It seems to have worked out okay. Hey Clayton, you asked me the question of, you know, was CFNY
the big dream for me being a kid that, being a high school kid in Brampton? Was it for you then?
Was that where you wanted to be, working in radio
specifically at CFNY? Yeah, absolutely. It was top of the mountain. But it was, you know, again,
because of where we come from, very working class immigrant family, it was almost too big of a
dream. I wish I had your balls that, you know, how you walked in there and just said, hey,
I'm here, right? That was just, it just that we didn't have that in us. We were in survival mode as,
as a,
as an immigrant family.
We didn't have that sort of ability just kind of,
you know,
later on we did as my brother and I built up our business and taking it
globally.
But at that time we just didn't have that inclination.
You're totally right.
Too big to dream.
Too big to dream.
It was too much.
Yeah.
I didn't,
I didn't know any different.
Right.
I was never.
Ignorance is bliss. And Terry, we certainly weren't there for the money at the time were we oh jesus christ
no to be clear we were there for the love of the music i think that was really why we were there
i ended up at le chateau at the bramley city center so that's where i hey i did i worked
at wilskins and tuxedo royale the bramley city there you So that's where I did my time. Hey, I worked at Wilson's and Tuxedo Royale at the Bramley City Center.
There you go.
Steak and Burger and Sam the Record Man.
That's where I worked at.
I remember Steak and Burger.
That was fantastic.
I also worked at the Colonels.
Oh, nice.
Remember the Colonels at the top
just by the food court there
in the Bramley City Center?
And Russell told us he worked at Captain Submarine.
Captain Submarine.
I also worked at Fridell and Kinney
and Reitmanmans as a stock
boy oh gosh i remember which was next door to rumpus on the top level of the mall at the bramley
city did anybody ever go to nicky's palace was that place there when you guys were i don't remember
that in the bramley city center yeah it was a disco that was there in the late 70s i don't know
how long it lasted but you know where i also worked i worked at the at the movie theater of course in
the bramley city center that was like uh foreshadowing the rest of my life yeah i um i saw the spy who
loved me there and marmorella i saw american graffiti it was really in the bowels it was when
they had movie theaters in all of the malls and they were always like in the bowels of the movie
theaters those places were disgusting man man. Yes, they were.
They were gross, but a great job.
Next.
Fell in love with movies at that place.
Well, and that served you very well, Terry.
Mm-hmm.
It set the stage for you, so to speak, pun intended.
Okay, so Ivor, when you're kicking out the jams next Friday,
what's the name of this club you're at?
Spot One. Spot One, Ruther this club you're at? Spot One.
Spot One, Rutherford Road.
Yes.
Brampton.
Okay.
You're only playing vinyl.
Yes.
What percentage of that vinyl you're playing
came from CFNY?
A couple.
I do have the original control room copy
of the street band's Toast.
So that is going to be played.
And I have a pretty good copy of the rockadero's.
I want to dance like Fred.
So I'm those were both from CF and wise control room.
I do have a lot of the old control room vinyl from CF and why I just,
you know,
between now and next week,
I have to check it out because a lot of it,
you know,
got used a lot in his,
in rough shape.
So I don't want to go up there and play a bunch of scratchy old records so but the story uh alan tells me is uh cfo i was
getting rid of all its vinyl and you guys rented a u-haul or something alan rented a u-haul to take
a bunch out i probably when i left i probably took about 2 000 pieces out of the radio station
i brought in a skid and took it all with me and they at the time
were like well we're not we're not playing this we're playing top 40 now whatever and i'm like
okay well um so be it i know that uh this will be of value to me and then to this day i still own it
and uh alan and i both have it in our wills whoever goes first gets each other's record collection
okay i've heard this story a few times but i need to know is it it in our wills. Whoever goes first gets each other's record collection.
Okay.
I've heard this story a few times,
but I need to know,
is it literally in the will?
Like,
is it written?
It's not just something. No,
it's not.
It's not.
It's a totally true story.
I could,
if somebody wanted me to,
I could show them the paperwork.
I might need to see it.
Actually,
now.
It's a true story.
You're still running there.
Go ahead.
What's in the will?
Who's it?
What's in the will?
It's whoever, whoever goes first gets each other's music collection.
I'll explain.
Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
Should Alan or Ivor die, the other person, shout out Ridley Funeral Home.
Hey, quickly here, Terry, you're missing out on all this.
I got measuring tapes for you, Ivor.
I got a measuring tape for you, Clayton.
Are we measuring things as part of the show?
Measure anything you want, buddy.
Because I'm not fully prepared for that.
I mean, how far back do we go?
That's courtesy of Ridley Funeral Home,
pillars of this community since 1921.
So you still running marathons, Ivor?
I am not.
I put my knee out a couple of years back
and I've not been able to do that.
I now am the proud owner of a golden retriever
that turned two this past week
and we do a lot of walking every day.
So that's kind of how I make up for it.
And you had a birthday party for this, Don.
I did.
We had a little birthday party over the weekend.
We had a pool party and got some extra treats.
And she's a very happy dog.
Her name is Ella, and it is not named after Ella Fitzgerald.
She is named after the Aerosmith song,
Loving an Elevator.
And that's how we got to Ella.
Your pool's open?
It is.
The pool party.
Come on over.
Nice.
Okay.
So Clayton, have you ever had a party for a pet?
I have not.
Our lab passed a few years ago, so we didn't have a party for it.
But I just want to tie back into your vinyl thing.
I used to sing Toast to my son.
Oh, really?
When he was just a couple of years old and he would have Toast.
It's Paul Young, right?
Doing the vocals on Toast. It's the street band. But Paul Young was in the band. toast. It's Paul Young, right? Doing the vocals on toast.
It's the street band.
But Paul Young was in the band.
Yes, it is the street band.
Now I use that.
I do a special episode every month
we call Toast
and that's the theme song
for the episode of Toast.
And Rob Pruce from The Spoons
is currently a cast member
in my Toast recording.
Oh, very good.
Excellent.
The Spoons,
were they interviewed for
the CNY documentary?
Yeah. Okay. You probably just did Gordon Sandy though. Excellent. The spoons, were they interviewed for the CNY documentary? Yeah.
Okay.
You probably just did Gordon Sandy though.
Yes, as far as I know.
I wasn't there for that one.
Okay.
I was there for the-
See, I get all the questions, right, Terry?
I get all these questions.
Yeah, I was there for the teenage head one.
All of them.
I sat in on that one.
I sat in for Clayton's interview and yeah.
Were you making funny faces just to see if he'd break back there?
Okay, so we talked about how Chris Shepard's still MIA,
if anybody knows where Chris Shepard is.
Tell me, don't tell Ivor, because I want him on Toronto Mike first.
Okay, so we're trying to find Chris Shepard.
But is there any other, obviously living, obviously,
CFNY personality that you wanted in the dog
that you either couldn't find or politely declined,
or not so politely declined uh the only there was a
couple of people who politely declined just because they felt that they didn't have the
stories to tell and they felt that some of the other more well-known personalities would be able
to tell the stories and not so much them um you know which is interesting i mean one of the other more well-known personalities would be able to tell the stories and not so much them.
You know, which is interesting.
I mean, one of the persons that got interviewed
for the documentary, it was wonderful,
and it was Nancy Ball.
And she also went to Chincoozie.
And so she did a great documentary.
Nancy went to, because Nancy listens to Toronto Mike.
Right, she absolutely does.
And so anyway, Nancy was interviewed for the CF great documentary. Nancy went to, because Nancy listens to Toronto Mike. Right, she absolutely does. And so anyway, Nancy was interviewed
for the CFNY documentary.
And I know she did a terrific job on it
because we had a good conversation afterwards.
So I called her and we went to Chincoosie at the same time.
So another connection.
And I said, Nancy, would love you to be on the 70s panel
at the reunion.
And she goes, Ivor, I can't remember anything
about high school.
So she remembers everything about working at CFNY only a few years later.
All right, here's a fun fact for you.
I actually have in my to-do list a chat with Fred Ball,
husband of Nancy Ball, about his relationship with Freddie from Humble and Fred.
This is a special episode of Humble and Fred.
We call it OG Hunty P Spotlights.
So I'm actually going to chat with Fred Ball on that topic soon.
Fred's a very, very funny guy,
and he's been connected to Fred Patterson for many, many years,
and it was because of his wife, Nancy, who worked at the radio station.
Fred also went to our rival high school just down the street at Bramalee.
He went to Bramley Fred Ball right secondary school but I remember a number of years ago he and you know he was in the office supplies
business at the time and he came in to see our office manager when I used to work at Polygram
and he came in when he was all full of himself and he said will it help you if i told you i knew iver hamilton and she goes it'll help you less so fred never got that deal but that's okay okay i'm gonna check
in with uh fotm terry hart now terry do you yes sir because i have terry hart and i have iver
hamilton i have clayton peters here i kind of want to just play a little music and talk about it.
Like, just a little music that I chose.
Not the wonderful playlist from
Ivor, because that music's too cool for this show.
But, do you have
time for that? I'm just checking in on your time.
Yeah, I gotta go at 3.30, pal.
I got 18 minutes. 18 minutes, okay.
So you just give me like a five minute warning.
Okay, so this is...
Well, let me play a little, then I'll bring it down,
and then we'll talk about it on the other side.
Okay.
All right.
Let me say the same thing
Since we've been together
Ooh, loving you forever is all I need
Let me be the one you come running to
I'll never be untrue
Oh, baby, let's
Let's stay together
Loving you whether, whether
Can't go to the thing.
Happy or sad.
I'm so in love with you.
Whatever you want to do is all right with me.
It's all right with me Cause you make me feel so brand new
I want to spend my whole life with you
I don't even want to fade it down, but
I don't care who goes first,
but have any of you met Tina Turner?
I have not.
I have not.
I have not.
Okay, 0 for 3 here.
Curious, any thoughts?
We just lost a legend.
Tina Turner just passed away, and maybe we'll start with you, Terry, but were you a fan, Tina Turner just passed away and maybe we'll start with you Terry
but were you a fan of Tina?
Yeah, I mean I think that's
one of the things that came really clear
really quickly is I think
everybody was a fan of Tina Turner
you know
that
resonated kind of immediately
on social media and
I think that,
you know,
as a woman,
she really blazed trails that were,
weren't even talked about when she was blazing them and,
you know,
overcoming and getting out of what she got out of with that person whose name I don't like to even
say um and then to become what she did with nothing but her name you know that was the name
that you know that's what she and I believe he tried to take that name like I'm pretty sure he
tried to take that name saying that I own that name um and, you know, she was also just so sexy.
Like, you know,
she was that rock star of a time.
Like, you know how even men
recognized that Prince was sexy?
Like, all women also recognized
that Tina Turner was sexy.
And that was just, like,
that was kind of a different vibe
of the time. people didn't really
talk about same genders in that way and the way we do now um and so yes she was remarkable
every clip you know you play that clip mike and and it just you know you can't sit still you
immediately get a groove on and you all the clips that we saw going around on social
from using simply the best in Schitt's Creek
to her playing for Oprah
to all the things that were just all over the place.
Yeah.
Primary, all of it.
It was just, you know,
icon and legend get really thrown around, man.
But this is appropriate for for for tina turner
how about you iver you've been how many years now you've been working on the uh on the dark
side of the music business a few decades i will have been in the music business outside past cf
and y for 35 years this year so even though i did not meet t Turner, lots of people I worked with did.
And the people that I knew that worked at EMI and Virgin that had experiences there
all said that she was absolutely wonderful to work with.
She did a lot of work in Canada, well-loved in this country.
I loved her music back in the early 70s.
I mean, going back to Bush City Limits,
it was like to me one of the most powerful songs
that came out of the 1970s.
So I always had a lot of respect for what she did.
And, you know, recently, I mean, to me,
it's like this is as big as, you know,
Prince passing on, David Bowie passing on,
George Michael, all of that.
It just, it has hit people so, so hard this past week.
Clayton, were you a fan of Tina?
I was a fan of Tina, but you know what's funny?
If you watch her when she's doing that Proud Mary dance of hers,
you can see the direct connection between her and Beyonce.
Okay.
You can draw a direct line from early Tina Turner,
even 80s Tina Turner, to Beyonce.
I thought you were going to say Mick Jagger.
Mick got his strike from Tina.
Yeah.
Nice.
Wow. Okay. Now, here
I realize now I'm looping it. I love that
cover too. That's the cover of Al Green's
Let's Stay Together. Okay.
Now, I did pull a bunch
now, but we're going to lose Terry soon, so I'm going to
truncate this a bit. So I'm just going to play a couple of jams, I think, tie back to the reunion.
And then we could hit the highlights again before we say goodbye.
But I've thoroughly enjoyed this.
And I will tell the listenership that recyclemyelectronics.ca is where you go
when you need to find out where you can drop off your old electronics,
your old tech, your old devices, your old computers, your old 8-track players,
your old phonographs, all that old tech, your old devices, your old computers, your old A-track players, your old phonographs, all that old tech, you drop it off at the depots near you at
recyclemyelectronics.ca. If anybody out there has a slide projector with a carousel,
one of our former teachers is looking to do a slide presentation from the 1970s,
and we are without a slide projector with carousel. One week out. Come on, FOTMs. We
got to help out Ivor Hamilton.
We've got a week to go here.
Okay, so I have a couple on high school. Well, I don't care what that used to be.
Rock, rock, rock on high school.
That's not where I want to be.
Rock, rock, rock on high school.
I just want to have some kicks.
I just want to get some chicks.
Rock, rock, rock, rock on high school.
Well, if the girls out there,
let me ask you.
And look at that.
The song's already half over.
Okay.
That's a long Ramones song.
That's right.
Poe Puri.
So really, it's jump in
if you have anything to say.
Anyone want to share some words
about the Ramones?
This is rock and roll.
I love the Ramones.
Saw them many, many times,
including at the Key to Bala,
which is a great, great memory
and the NBL Macombo.
Several occasions.
I have a Rock and Roll High School t-shirt that I purchased recently,
and I will be wearing it to the reunion.
So just as an FYI on that.
Wait, there's a reunion?
What is this?
What is this reunion?
Wait, there's a reunion?
50 years of Chinguacuzi.
Chinguacuzi. Chinguacuzi.
Chinguacuzi.
50th anniversary.
If you went to Chinguacuzi,
well, you can search it on Eventbrite,
but if you can't find the link or whatever,
you're lost.
Literally write me,
mike at torontomike.com,
and I will send you the link with all the info
and get you a part of this.
So remind me, though.
There's also a Facebook page.
There's a Facebook page. Just look it up. Chinguacuzi. Chinguacuzi 50th reunion. this. So remind me, though. There's also a Facebook page. There's a Facebook page.
Just look it up.
Chinquaguzi 50th.
Chinquaguzi 50th reunion.
Okay.
So thank you, Terry.
That's why you're here.
So Friday, it's $10 and anyone can go?
Yeah.
Anyone can go to spot one and then Saturday, you can buy tickets.
I mean, if you didn't go, maybe your spouse went and you didn't go, we're not turning
you away.
But you might go to see Ivor Hamilton.
And Clayton Peters. But more Ivor Hamilton. And Clayton Peters.
But more Ivor Hamilton.
And Clayton Peters.
Terry, will you be there on the Saturday?
I'm doing my damnedest.
I'm better on the spot here.
I'm doing my damnedest.
Terry, Clayton, go ahead.
I was going to say, any words about Ramones
while we have eight seconds left?
I came to the Ramones late in life.
I was blissfully unaware of them
when they were at their peak.
You missed all those Gary shows
and the Ramones.
What about you, Terry? Were you a Ramones fan?
Not so much.
It's okay. There's no shame in this.
I should point out.
I was never a cool music person.
Weirdly,
I worked at two of the best radio
stations at their peak and
at their height.
But what do you listen to? Like, what are your jams?
Have you ever kicked out the jams with me? Is that because you don't love
music, Terry? I've been kicking out the jams many
times, and I gotta tell you, it intimidates me.
Are you afraid
we'll laugh at your songs? Like, it's like, oh,
there's another Engelbert Humperdinck, because there's
no shame in that. I will not be choosing Engelbert Humperdinck because there's no shame in that. I will not be choosing
Engelbert Humperdinck.
Jesus.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
He's Anglo-Indian like me, by the way.
You know, Mike Hannafin.
He is.
He's Anglo-Indian.
He's Anglo-Indian like you.
Amazing.
So Mike Hannafin,
who worked at CFNY
backing up Freddie P
for a period in the 80s,
he just came by
to kick out the jams
because he was in town
and his mom had just passed away
and he kicked out
some Engelbert Humperdinck for his mom and it was a really sweet moment but my brother played that
as his wedding dance with our mom and he bawled his eyes out the whole time yeah
showed us a picture of uh your mom and engelbert in our interview so okay two more here before we
lose the great and by the way in high school remind everybody, of course, but when exactly do you become Terry Hart? Was it at
CFNY? No, I was
traveling Terry at CFNY
and I became Terry Hart at Q107.
Okay, and it's your
grandmother's maiden name, right?
If we want to bring this full circle,
I was
Terry Bullock at
Chinkoozie, which of course is
Tina Turner's real last name.
And Bullock.
There you go.
What a connection.
That's an amazing fun fact right there.
Wow.
There you go.
Fun fact right there.
Okay.
So two more quick jams on the high school reunion thing.
Here we go.
Here we go. Well, come on. The kids want a little action. The kids want a little fun.
The kids all have to get their kicks before the evening's done.
Because they're going to high school.
Run, run, run.
High school.
This is move on.
High school.
Hey, hey, hey, you better let them have their way. You know, I keep saying kick out the jams.
It's because of these guys.
Ivor, I'm going to you now.
You're the musicologist here,
although you're not a real musicologist.
Oh, okay. Thank you.
Somebody told me you can't use that term
unless you had a PhD in musicology or something like that.
I got my grade 10 in musicology, buddy.
Good rip off of the Capitol's Cool Jerk, but that's all I have to say on that
particular song. It's completely, completely same
riff on the song. Could be copyrighted. Afterwards, I'm going to definitely
check that out. Is that the Cool Jerk from Home Alone 2? Yes.
That is the same song in Home Alone 2.
Yes.
So go to Home Alone 2 and you'll hear
when you see in the shower, that is the cool jerk.
So same riff, but the fun song.
That's impressive, guys.
I got to say, that is impressive
what you just walked me through there.
Wow.
Any words about this band, Ivor?
MC5 here. So we got, this is high Ivor? MC5 here.
So we got, this is high school here.
MC5.
Well, the originators of Kick Out the Jams
and the Detroit scene and, you know,
them and Iggy and the Stooges,
the two of the most iconic bands ever to come out of Detroit.
Did see them play once at a reunion show in Detroit
and it was a great thrill.
And Wayne Kramer's still kicking around.
What about the Eagles and Bob Seger?
The Eagles?
The Eagles are out of Detroit.
Don Henley.
I spent some time with Don Henley a few years ago,
and he was one of the most gracious persons I've ever spent time with.
It was really, really great.
I love that.
Amazing.
We prefer the list of the assholes, Ivor, okay?
We're tired of hearing about all the good guys.
I can tell you a few, but for another show.
Okay, last one, because this is actually in FOTM,
like all of you. She's a cool
Blonde
Scheming bitch
She make my body twitch
Walking down the corridor
You can hear her stiletto click
I want her so much I feel sick
The girl can't help it, she really can't help it She really can't help it now
It's like a high school
A high school confidential
A high school
A high school confidential
Teenage friend
This song makes me cream my jeans.
Holy smokes.
High school confidential.
Rough Trade.
That's a classic right there.
Anyone have anything to say about Rough Trade?
I will just tell you Carol Pope is an FOTM,
but I do not believe she's listening to us right now.
So say anything you like.
All I could say about this is
I was thinking about what I was going to bring to play at the reunion i thought i'll never hear the end of it if i don't have this
in my collection and if i don't have it in my collection i'm going to be out hitting a couple
of used record stores to pick some pick some things up which i did over the last couple of days
because i had it in my head it was like i want to play sly and the family stone and i haven't got
it on vinyl so i had to go out and buy it. Yeah, because you painted yourself into a corner
because you can't just download it or stream it.
I will go to the rock and roll corner if I'm playing MP3s.
Clayton can do what he wants.
Clayton, are you playing MP3s?
I'm not quite so religious about the experience.
Are you streaming from Spotify?
No, I'm not a Spotify guy at all.
He sent me those playlists. I'm an Apple Music
guy and I was like, I was staring at it going,
I don't know what to do with this. I like to make
my own choices. Terry
Hart, before we say goodbye to you now, where
can we see you? Where can we follow
you? What are you up to? Give us the update.
Oh my gosh.
I'm at Super
Channel, so you can see me doing stuff
for Super Channel on their Instagram all the time
and you can catch me on
640 Toronto. I'm filling
in for Kelly Cotrera a lot. I'm there
on June 9th. I'm there
first week of July, first week
of August.
Former CFNY
personality Kelly Cotrera?
Correct.
I am on Commotion with Elamin Abdul-Mekmoud
quite often as a panelist,
talking about various pop culture stuff.
I'm all over the place.
Things are good and busy and fun and varied,
and I'm a happy woman these days.
And you'll come back as soon as Tara Sloan visits.
You're going to come back and visit me.
Well, maybe I'll come and kick out the jams
because now I'm having memories of that lasagna
and I've got to get my hands on another one.
I'll definitely have one for you. Okay, Terry Hart.
Clayton Peters,
can we follow you online?
You can, ClaytonPeters64 on Instagram.
I've got a new podcast dropping
probably around July.
So what do you mean, a new series or a new episode?
It is actually launching
a new podcast called Fries for the Table with Mohhit rogens and myself uh free for you know i do lots of stuff
with mo most most of the man i bike by the man every other day he's in this hood i know he is
okay and i do because i drop the kids off in the bike trailer and then i like to do a couple of
loops after just you know for shits and giggles and he's goes for his morning runs and waves to
be yeah he's a neighbor.
Yeah, we've had an interesting
relationship that's developed over COVID
and we used to get together and have these really cool conversations.
I said, this should be a podcast.
And here we go.
Yeah, I always see him pop up.
He's been very, very kind to me when I've been filling in on
640 Toronto and come on to talk tech stuff
with me quite frequently.
Yeah, he's very well versed.
Look at this, he's an FOTM as well,
guys.
So that's,
uh,
that's all great to hear.
And Ivor,
uh,
and why the spirit.com is where we can go to subscribe and hear you play
whatever you want.
Next time Marsden gives you a hard time over something you're playing.
Let me know.
I'll intervene.
It's been a long time.
And in my,
in my regular gig,
I continue to work very closely
with the Tragically Hip
along with many, many of their acts,
Rosh and the Hip.
Those are kind of my two go-tos,
but lots of other great music.
David Steinberg, do you work with him?
I talk to David on a regular basis, yes.
He's been here a few times.
Love David.
Him and Blair Packham come over together.
We go back to his days in the mods
back in the late 70s.
So that's how far back we go.
And he's playing in Alex Lifeson's
new project, right?
The Envy of None.
He's done some spinoff work
over the years with, you know,
some Dead Boys spinoff bands as well.
And being a very successful lawyer.
Okay, and one last time,
because it's the 50th anniversary of the high school
that's very difficult for me to pronounce.
One last time, give us the must-remember stuff.
If you go to that high school,
just give us the whole 411 real quick.
Okay, so we're going to have, as I said,
we're going to do spot one next Friday night,
289 Rutherford Road, South and Brampton,
10 bucks at the door.
Clayton and I will be on the wheels of steel.
And Saturday we are doing from three o'clock onwards, we're doing open mic forms.
We have decades rooms, the seventies, eighties and nineties room.
Maybe we'll get to something for the two thousands.
And then we are going to have our 80s video dance party
to kick the night off, which is some really cool stuff.
And then DJ Brian Ram...
Ram Sammy.
Ram Sammy.
Ram Sammy is going to really, really do a great job.
DJ Rami.
DJ Rami is going to do an amazing job on the video and DJ setup.
It's going to happen in the gym at the school.
We've got two giant video screens.
Plus, we've got lots of cultural moments
and things that we're going to have
along with all the old photos
and things from back in the day.
So people are going to have a great time.
We've got an amazing lineup
of silent auction items too.
People are going to have a great time
and go home with some good things.
And all the money raised from the reunion
will go to the Chincoozie Alumni Scholarship Fund.
Will you be auctioning off the Bon Jovi banner that used to hang up here?
The Bon Jovi banner is not up for grabs, unfortunately,
but we have some wonderful things, including a great package
to meet and greet Russell and see any one of his shows anywhere on the planet.
So Clayton put that together for us.
It's a really,
really fantastic item.
We've got Aerosmith tickets.
We've got LL Cool J tickets.
Thanks to our friends at Live Nation.
We've got,
we've got lots of gift certificates from Bramley City Center and much,
much more.
Wow.
Okay.
Terry,
thanks so much for doing this.
Thanks guys.
Thanks,
Mike.
You're sweet.
Nice to see you. I'm sorry I couldn't be there.
Next time you'll be here, and then you get the lasagna.
That's the deal. That's the deal.
Clayton, nice to meet you virtually.
And you, Terry.
I look forward to giving you a big hug on Saturday.
Me too, Terry. Thanks so much.
Thanks, guys.
And that brings us to the end of our
1260th show
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I am.
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