Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - One-Hit Wonders: Toronto Mike'd #671

Episode Date: June 19, 2020

This Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out one-hit wonders with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time now for Pandemic Fridays, starring Toronto Mike, Stu Stone, and Cam Gordon. I'm from Toronto where you wanna get city love I'm a Toronto mic, wanna get city love My city love me back, for my city love Welcome to episode 671 of Toronto Mic'd A weekly podcast about anything and everything Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery A fiercely independent craft brewery who believes in supporting communities, good times and brewing amazing beer. Palma Pasta.
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Starting point is 00:01:13 for your home and your business. The Keitner Group. They love helping buyers find their dream home. Text Toronto Mike to 59559. And our newest sponsor, CDN Technologies, your IT and cyber security experts. I'm Mike from torontomike.com and welcome to Pandemic Fridays with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. Hello, Mike. Hello, Stu. Hello, Cam. Hello, Mike. Hello, Stu. Hello, Cam. Hello, Mike.
Starting point is 00:01:49 How are you guys doing today? Pretty good. It's Father's Day weekend. We're on the horizon. Happy Father's Day to Mike and to all the dads out there. A little look under the hood, by the way, only LeapGay
Starting point is 00:02:07 Famka and producer Ian... Sorry, what do we call him? Tim. Tim. What they don't know is that pretty much every episode as we're getting started, Mike's doing
Starting point is 00:02:21 the intro, Stu and I are on Zoom imitating LGN wrestling figures different poses that's true just vivid deep cut yes but that's sort of like our little warm-up some people do like me me me we just do posing
Starting point is 00:02:37 super pose down thankfully I got two screens going and I can kind of see in the corner of my eye something going on and I make sure I never look at you guys because I'll break into laughter. But Cam, the Happy Father's Day, I was going to say Happy Father's Day to you as well. And then I thought that might be insensitive because Stu
Starting point is 00:02:54 and I have absentee fathers and I thought maybe this is a tough time for some people. I wasn't sure we should say Happy Father's Day considering I've seen the wonderful documentary Jack of All Trades several times on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Great Father's Day movie, by the way. Watch it with your dad. Yeah, I might. Happy week. You know, a lot has happened in the last seven days. Racism has ended uh you know the evil evil has been defeated i wish that i could make that announcement but uh
Starting point is 00:03:33 seems to uh things seems seem to have uh there's been no really uh crazy major events for the first time in a while unless there there has, and I've just had my head in the sand, but it seems like the world burned down a little less this week. Well, although I'll say like if you're following kind of the pandemic in the U.S., including your former home state for many years, Stu, some concerning statistics, especially in Florida and Texas and California. Yeah, it's interesting. It seems like our last episode, which I thought was one of our best,
Starting point is 00:04:12 if not our best, episode of Pandemic Fridays between the music and the conversation. I thought it was great. But yeah, I mean, every week just feels like a century. It goes by. The good news is that it looks like Pandemic Fridays has picked up for another 14 weeks. Good news for people who like bad news.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah, although also let's not lose sight of the fact that where Stu and I grew up, York Region, goes into stage two of recovery, which means you can go north of Steele's there and get your hair cut, have maybe a beer at the Tickletoad. Various places in York Region are going to go into limited opening. It seems like a lot of people that I've seen have a more lax attitude towards this pandemic
Starting point is 00:05:07 i think that uh you know wanting just being over something doesn't mean it's over you know just being bored with something doesn't mean that it's over well there's a headline i can't remember which publication is it time i can't remember but the headline was uh america is done with covid19 but covid19 is not done with America. Like there just seems to be, I'm of the opinion that we are moving, we're opening up possibly a little too quickly. Like I'd like us to slow our roll here.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And I also believe the science suggests that we should be getting a summertime break. Like as the temperatures rise, we might hit 30 degrees here uh we're you know just like other viruses of this nature like it's going to the transmission should slow down thanks to the warmer temperatures and then we you know it'll come back with a vengeance and uh well the good news is is the three of us are in we're we're all in the same bubble so well but can i ask you if people are in such a hurry to go out like in the states i don't know about here but you know a lot of people are like sort
Starting point is 00:06:13 of mask shaming and being you know not wearing masks and not wanting to wear masks and i'm not saying you know not shaming those who wear masks or don't wear masks but if you want things to open and you want things to go up, wouldn't wearing a mask be something that would help? Oh yeah. Sort of to allow those things. Let's shame them. I want to shame people who won't wear a mask for some reason, just like climate change.
Starting point is 00:06:36 And there's so many things I always get surprised by how they got politicized. Mask wearing has somehow become politicized. And if you ask the experts, you know, the subject matter experts who actually study this stuff for a living, the cheapest, most effective way to halt the transmission of COVID-19 is if 80% of the population wore a freaking mask. And I know not everybody can wear a mask because of whatever health conditions, whatever. But if you can wear a mask, you should be wearing that mask every time you go into your grocery store, your pharmacy, your whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Mike, I don't know if you guys caught this. I think this was just yesterday because I saw this getting a lot of chatter on Twitter. But I think it was the president of AMC Theaters. He made a comment about not forcing AMC patrons to wear a mask because he didn't want this to become a political thing. So to your point, Mike, I mean, there's sort of a political thing, but this is sort of just science. I think this is what scientists and infection experts and whatnot. But by saying he doesn't want people to wear masks because he doesn't want to make it a political thing. That's a political thing for him to say that.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Interestingly enough, I got like yesterday. I got up, I went and got a COVID test. Oh, Tom. Oh yeah, I did. Deep nasal swab. Yes. So I went down to the testing center where there was like a lineup, like around, you know, took about an hour to get in there.
Starting point is 00:08:04 But once you get in there, it's a pretty, it's, it was like a lineup like around you know it took about an hour to get in there but once you get in there it's a pretty it's it is like a there is five seconds of a sensation that you've never experienced in your life uh with that like swab that goes like deep in and like tickles your brain i mean but it's definitely worth doing like i didn't go in because i'm symptomatic or felt like i god forbid had covid But my aunt, who maybe some of you who follow me on social media have seen, I used to be able to take her out all the time. And she's been sort of in her room at this assisted living place that she lives at since March 3rd. She's like not really been able to leave her room. She's going crazy over there. Well, they told us last week that they would allow one family member to come have an outside visit, but the person had to show that they had a COVID test.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Wow. So that I went and got the test because someone's got to go see her. So I went and I did it. And I got to tell you, you should definitely do it because I'm thinking that like it definitely is a sobering you know for people who don't believe that this is a real thing going and getting tested for it really takes you in to see how it really is a real thing and to see the frontline kind of workers that are there you know as hundreds of people are going through there they're putting themselves in a pretty precarious position so it's uh it really is you know you don't really get a sense of what's going
Starting point is 00:09:31 on until you actually go in and see what's happening and i'm not suggesting like go into the hospital and go like sneak around and see what's happening but you know go get tested and see see for yourself and hopefully uh your tests come back uh uh el negatave yeah well that's great too and i know uh it's auntie standy right yeah yeah i know how important she is i mean even when we were kids i remember she was yeah larger than life and uh had some few run-ins with her too and she's always a lot of laughs and hopefully you guys will be having some matzo ball soup and uh working the salt shaker as she's known to do. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully.
Starting point is 00:10:08 One of the greats for sure. When will you see her Stu? Like when is this? I think I'm going to get to see her on Monday. So I have to just like wait for my results to come in and then I'll be able to go to see her, but she's going to be so happy obviously to see somebody. There's a couple of family members that she could pick from, but she's got me. She scored, I think.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah, this is like, I mean, that's a real shot in the arm. This is sort of like when Bam Bam Bigelow was doing the manager search, and he went through Fuji and Jimmy Hurd, and eventually went with Oliver Humperdinck. I thought you were going to go with a Miss Elizabeth story there.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Oh, yeah. It was the same gimmick, right? Yeah, Macho Man. Everyone was vowing for his services. That's right. Of course, in the news this week, a Miss Elizabeth figure, a mold of the Miss Elizabeth LJN figure, because I know all the Toronto Mike fans love it when we open with a
Starting point is 00:11:04 wrestling chat. Performer WWE star Zack Ryder just sold a nude Miss Elizabeth figure for $40,000 this past week. Wow. Wow. I'm glad I bought that. I've seen sort of the weird subculture
Starting point is 00:11:23 of modified L LGN figures. This is not a modified one. This is like the, basically it's like the mold that they would have used to make the Miss Elizabeth figure. But it's nude and it's very sexually detailed in an inappropriate way. Wow. Wow. Somebody bought it for $40,000. Some rich pervert.
Starting point is 00:11:44 So there you go.40,000. Some rich pervert. Okay, Stu. Awesome. You mentioned the wrestling. You made some wrestling comments here. And that made me think of Hades Dweller. And I did pull a quote. So Hades Dweller, even though he's the one who was kind of negative about some of these episodes, he primarily doesn't like, Stu, that he feels you get lots of your facts wrong. He doesn't seem to appreciate the charm of that. OK, so and I actually
Starting point is 00:12:09 I think you get most of your facts right. But anyway, Hades Dweller listened to last Friday's Pandemic Friday episode with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. And I'm going to read his quote. Hades Dweller says,
Starting point is 00:12:21 All in all, a fantastic episode and undoubtedly the most impressive of the six or seven Pandemic Friday episodes I have encountered thus far. And then he put an exclamation mark at the end. So that's Hades Dweller. The reviews are in. So I guess we're not stale anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:40 No, and your super fan, Linda, she's still, you're still okay. Like Linda's still your biggest fan right linda i think so i mean nobody's really stepped up to take that crown i did i did find out though that cam brio uh who we talked about last week uh he wrote me to tell me that his last name brio does stem from the italian soft drink brio so we did get that right. And his first name is because he's a big Cam Gordon fan. Well, that goes without saying.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Okay. Linda, back to Linda, of course. It always comes back to Linda. Wants me to ask you guys a question. Okay, so here's a question from Linda. Have you ever heard of Hannibal's? Hannibal's? H-A-N-N-I-B-A-L-S.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Hannibals. Like Hannibal Lecter? Well, I don't know any more than that. Hannibal Smith? Hannibal Burroughs? That's all I got. So I was hoping it might ring a bell of some sort. Is she talking about like Madballs?
Starting point is 00:13:40 I know Madballs. Remember those? They were like squeezy balls with like garbage pail kid type faces yeah i totally remember those yeah totally totally do you guys remember the muscles those little characters muscles yeah yeah little wrestlers little pink uh wrestlers yeah collect them all and that stood for something muscles i can't remember what it stood for but m-u-s-c yeah it was a anagram what is it called an anagramagram? Scuba. Self-contained underwater breathing apparatus. Is that what Scuba stands for? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:09 And NASCAR. That was featured on an episode of Family Ties, I believe. Do you remember this? It blew Mallory's mind or something? Or it was on Growing Pains? Or maybe it was Nick. Remember Nick? Hey! Hey!
Starting point is 00:14:25 Well, you know, going back to Hades Dweller saying, you know, trying to throw a Twitter fact check on me. Yes. You know, listen, man. Not everybody can be right like you all the time. And there are certain people that have proven that you can rise to power from getting things wrong and just spouting things out.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So maybe I'm just practicing for a future political run. You can come to my rally, which is going to be taking place tomorrow in, in Brampton. It's going to be good. Okay. So also I wanted to ask you both, you, Cam, and Stu, about your Cable 10 show. And the reason I want to ask you about this is because this past week I had on Toronto Mic'd, I think it was Tuesday. Yeah, Monday was Hawksley Workman.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Love that guy, by the way. The hawk is my buddy. Tuesday was Michael Landsberg and Steve Paikin. And the reason I had them on together is because they hosted a show on the Willowdale. What was the name?
Starting point is 00:15:33 Is it called Willowdale Cable 10? Newton Cable. Okay, so I think it changed names at some point. Yeah. There was also something called Grand Cable, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:15:43 for a while. I think that was a Tobacco. Was it? while. I think that was Etobicoke. Was it? Yeah. I think Scarlet Road and Scarlet and Jane or something. But okay, so this show was called Jock Talk. Yeah, we know Jock Talk. So tell me, I need to hear, remind me, I know I forgot.
Starting point is 00:15:58 What was your show called? When did it air? And did you know about Jock talk with uh pagan and landsbring i i believe i knew jock talk but there was also chuck talk i swear to god there was a show called chuck talk also was this dave there was a guy dave chalk who was sort of an early almost like a mark saltzman type tech person he would sort of be like there there was also a guy, Steve Dotto. Yes, I remember Dotto. Yes. Also, I think Wilner was our lead-in too.
Starting point is 00:16:30 He had a show. Yeah, we definitely weren't the only other sports talk show. Let's Talk Sports was Mike Wilner and Aaron Lobel. Ours was called Overtime Sports Talk and it was pitched as a show about sports like for teens by teens i i
Starting point is 00:16:50 believe the official tagline the sports talk show for kids by kids for kids by kids right right right kids we were just kids we were like like fuck what like 13 14 years old yeah and i and i looked like i was like eight or nine so it really we sold it yeah i was already like six foot six but uh but there's been there was some legendary awful hot takes uh on that show by uh myself uh cam and our third co-host a gentleman by the name of ryan uh i remember one episode ryan predicted that if uh one Guzman kept pitching the way that he was pitching, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. I also remember that I predicted that the Philadelphia Eagles were going to win the Super Bowl behind Randall Cunningham. That didn't happen either.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. Well, I remember a famous episode. We we almost turned the tables on a trivia challenge. We almost turned the tables on a trivia challenge. I mean, as you can imagine, Stu had a lot of connections to some of the finest purveyors of sports memorabilia at the time. I remember we popped by a store called Sports Collectors Heaven. Yes. That was at Dufferin and Steele's, near where Chi-Chi's was back in the day. But we would invite callers to try to stump us with questions. And I remember this little, I'll just call him a little asshole.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Statue of limitations is off. Tried to stump us by saying who performed John O'Rourke's brain surgery. If you, if you recall, John O'Rourke wore a bat, like a hard helmet, even when he was in the field, because he had the brain surgery when he was in the field because he had brain surgery when he was younger and someone tried to stump us with this question which seemed at the time even like mildly
Starting point is 00:18:32 offensive and certainly would be in the present day. I mean this is supposed to be like a light hearted sports talk show where we talk about John Orwood getting his brain I need to know the answer. What was the answer? I still don't know. I still, who knows? I mean, it was a long time ago, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:49 So it was needless to say, we had a short but mighty run in the fall of 92. I feel like we debuted like right after the Jays won the World Series or right during. It feels like it was a lot of talk about like Jack Morris.
Starting point is 00:19:03 92. You got first 20 game winner, first 20 game winner in Blue Jays. We had, we had like the faux brick wall background. You know, those like classic. Caroline. Faux brick wall.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Caroline's the comedy show, I think on A&M. Yeah. So we, yeah, we had, we had that, that faux brick wall in the background.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Catch a rising star. Catch a rising star. A couple of, a couple of directors chairs. I just find that remarkable. It was after the races. Like, like look at the careers that Steve Paikin and Michael Landsberg have had.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And that could have been you guys. I'm not saying you haven't had the same career. I'm not saying that. You've had interesting careers yourselves, both of you. And Paikin, was it Paikin and Bruce Dobigan had a show on the original Fan 590, right?
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yes, sir. And their deal with that show, Dobigan and Pagan, was that they got that afternoon slot and they had to sell their own ads. That's right. I remember Dobigan mentioned this on your podcast. Oh, yeah. This is my role in the Canadian media here, is to
Starting point is 00:20:03 collect these stories so the people like you and I can remember them and recall them. So, all right. So I wanted to talk to you about the Cable 10 show because when I heard them talk about Jock Talk, it reminded me of what you guys had going on and I just found it. Of course, I know we've mentioned this before, but the guy who ran the station was Stephen Joel Kersner, the guy behind Ed the Sock.
Starting point is 00:20:26 He sort of ran the station was uh steven joel kersner the guys behind ed the sock he sort of ran the station he was the uh the george newman of the station for those that uh that get the reference uh from from uh uhf oh yes i loved uhf with spatula i think i i think mike i feel like i might have mentioned this the very first time i came on your podcast, but I'll just revisit because I think it's interesting at the time. And, Stu, you may recall this. I think at the time we were doing the show, Kersner had some legal action against Ben Stiller because there was a character on the original Ben Stiller Fox TV show that was similar to Ed the Sock. Yeah, he did mention that to us. And I'm sure you could Google and you might find some old articles in the Hollywood Reporter. Well, probably not.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I don't even know what covered this at the time, but this is sort of... The sock was still cable access. What was the... Robert Smigel? What was the name of his dog? Triumph. I know that. I've had Steve Kerzen on the show a couple of times, and I know he had
Starting point is 00:21:23 a big beef with Triumph, the comic insult or the insult comic dog or whatever his name was. That's being basically Ed the Sock in a different different voice and character. So, yeah. All right. I mean, listen, you can't have you can't have Cola Wars if there isn't Pepsi and Coke. Right. That's a great point. And C always like the cut okay or royal crown so gentlemen uh before i announce what the topic today is the theme of today's pandemic friday jam kicking uh i two quick things one uh i did uh shave my goatee oh shit that's right i know because i know i had it for like a month of my 45 years or whatever and
Starting point is 00:22:04 then i was upstairs. I just discreetly like shaved it off when I was in the bathroom one day. That's what I do in the bathroom. I shave off my goatee. And then I came downstairs and acted like nothing was going on. And then my four, my six year old saw me and started openly weeping. He was crying and I had to have a long chat and console him.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And it turned out he missed the goatee and he was, he was devastated. It was gone. So we had a long chat about basically the theme of this wonderful father, son moment, uh, in honor of father's day was that, um,
Starting point is 00:22:33 you know, hair grows back. I think this was the story. Beards. Now you're, you're, you're, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Don't give him that life lesson because that's not necessarily true. Uh, but, uh, yeah, I think that's a, that's not necessarily true. But yeah, I think that's a touching moment. I can think of like really kind of cute sort of funny things that kids get sad over. And that's a pretty funny one. Yeah. But he was really sad. Like he was openly weeping and we had to have a long heart to heart now. And I had to let him know, you know, daddy, you know, it's still me. Like I don't even, and the thing that gets me is he's known me for six years only one month or so has he ever seen a goatee on my face like he's like all of a sudden like that's me okay so i wanted to share that little story in honor of father's
Starting point is 00:23:14 day and then i just want to ask you guys if you don't mind telling us what your zoom names are right now and explaining it can you do that before i uh give everyone the theme here um sure i'll go first i'm thornhillopoly this was uh something brought to student my attention uh there is actually a thornhill version of monopoly called thornhillopoly apparently for sale at the walmart at dufferin and highway 7 uh near prominent mall there in thornhill. This is apparently all the rage on a private Thornhill Facebook group. I thought this was a parody. I actually sent it to my sister and my mom.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I'm like, oh my God, look at this. This is so stupid. But yeah, I can't believe whoever made this game. It's a company out of Victoria that does, I guess, custom Monopoly games. I guess they have a license, but I can't believe Thorn this game it's a company out of Victoria that does custom Monopoly games. I guess they have a license but I can't believe Thornhill would make the cut. You could actually buy Thornhill Secondary School where Stu
Starting point is 00:24:12 and I went to school and it's actually more expensive than Thornhill Secondary School. So there's a fun fact for you. It sounds classist to me. I feel like this is classist. I don't know. It's fucking weird. Like, you can buy German Mills Settlers Park. You can buy
Starting point is 00:24:28 like, again, the aforementioned Tickletoad. Like, it's, I don't know. It's weird. Thornhill's not that big. I'm amazed that they would think there's a market for this. This game costs $30. Well, due to revelations that we
Starting point is 00:24:43 all sort of learned last week, this past week in social media, there probably won't be a Vaughnopoly game. No. Due to the fact that we've all kind of learned that the origin of the Vaughn name is not a good one. A lot of things canceled in the last week in the wake of people finally deciding not to glorify or honor uh racism and anti-semitism but apparently the city of von well not apparently i mean it's a it's it's a fact that most people didn't know myself included but the city of von is named after somebody that has not a very good uh track record when it comes to not, not, you know, being racist.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's not Mo Vaughn to be clear. Or Ricky Vaughn. Or Greg Vaughn. I see in Vancouver as well. There was a statue of, this is like a gassy jack. Do you guys know? There's actually a song by the Evaporators for Nardwuar,
Starting point is 00:25:41 the human serviette. It's like this statue they want to remove. It's sort of like how they took down the Robert E. Lee statue. Yeah, I was there. There's a neighborhood called the Gas... Gaslamp District? Gaslamp? And there was a statue there.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I got to take up my photos. I didn't know this story. Yeah, it's problematic too, apparently. So yeah, it's a lot of looking back at all these historical things. too apparently so yeah i mean it's it's a lot of like looking back at all these historical things it's it's really but now but even like stuff that you wouldn't even that that's been part of your social conscience and you've been unaware that it's been overtly racist with like in chamama is no in in uncle ben's rice they're changing their everything about their products now, which is great. Listen, it seems like to naysayers, these things might seem trivial
Starting point is 00:26:29 or it's going too far, but that's not true. I mean, this is stuff that should have probably changed a long time ago. You know, so if the wake of the events of the past few months, if one of the small little ripples in the ocean is that stuff like this gets changed, then it's a good thing. It's a good thing to be woke in the wake. And I'm happy that stuff's starting to change now. If we could only,
Starting point is 00:27:06 you know, if we can only see progress like this made with people and how they interact with each other, that would be something else. So message to everybody out there. Let's try to love. Well said. And Stu, before I introduce the topic, tell us about your Zoom name today. I can't tell you what my Zoom name is, but I'd like to ask you a question, Mike. What's on for tomorrow? What's on next week? You know, I always think, okay, so people listening to us, I always wonder, and interestingly enough, we have somebody representing the company right here,
Starting point is 00:27:48 but I'm always curious, like, what percentage of listeners of Toronto Mike do you think actually are aware of what's happening on Twitter? Like, you always wonder, like, is it a small segment? Like, what does that look like? It's probably a small basket of deplorables. Because, yes, okay, so, and I don't think he's going to hear this. So, and again again you know he
Starting point is 00:28:06 twitter's a very public uh outlet if you tweet something you're putting you're broadcasting it in public so matt layden is the name of is what the name you've chosen for the zoom and matt layden almost every you can almost set your watch by it but every day he wants to know who's coming up next and uh like he even has me like he'll ask, who's my, who's my guest for like a Sunday or something. And I'll be like sheepishly like, Oh Matt, I'm taking a day off. Is it okay? Like I almost start to feel bad. Like why aren't I recording seven days a week? Like Matt, Matt needs his Toronto mic content, but yeah, he, he, he asks me every Thursday who's up tomorrow. And every Thursday I tell him it's every Friday during the pandemic is pandemic Fridays with Stu
Starting point is 00:28:44 Stone and Cam Gordon. And he goes, OK, thanks for the heads up. And he seems very nice about it. But he never retains this information. So I think yesterday he asked me who was coming up Friday. And I said, it's Friday. It's Pandemic Fridays with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. You know this.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Like, he knows this. It's in the name. Fridays. It's always until this vaccine arrives it's going to be the same same old same old pandemic i'm sure that he means well and he's obviously a fan of your show and you know maybe he he maybe he doesn't retain it that's got to be right i'm with you i'm i'm the same so i i'm, I'm a, you know, ask away. If you want to tweet Mike and ask him,
Starting point is 00:29:27 do it. I will say this isn't dissimilar from every week as we, as I send Stu the exact same Zoom URL
Starting point is 00:29:36 to record. It's perhaps in the same ballpark to use a baseball analogy as the... Is baseball coming back? Speaking of... Yeah. Yeah, when's Rob Manfred going to get him on your podcast? Like, oh my God, what a... a baseball analogy. Is baseball coming back?
Starting point is 00:29:46 When's Rob Manfred going to get him on your podcast? Oh my God, what a mess. Okay, producer note for Stu Stone. Just be sensitive to the fact we can hear the snap, crackle, pop. I think your mic might be brushing against... Yeah, I heard it right there. I heard it, for example.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I almost called you Matt. So Stu, just be aware of that. Can you hear when I tap like that? Yeah, okay, that's it. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. We need all our listeners we can get. So you guys have already done so.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Maybe you can get your aunt to do so when you see her on Monday, Stu, but you got to go to garbageday.com slash Toronto Mike and sign up for the garbage day. You can get it like via SMS or an email or via the app. It's super convenient. Just lets you know,
Starting point is 00:30:31 is it garbage day recycling? Is it the yard waste pickup? Are they going to pick up my Christmas tree? What's going on here? All that stuff takes the guesswork out of curbside collection. So do that. Also, I want to let everybody know about an episode of Toronto Mike that dropped on Wednesday in which I spoke to a number of Toronto Mike partners like three
Starting point is 00:30:50 months into this pandemic. How the hell are you doing? Like how the heck is the local funeral home doing? How that's Ridley Funeral Home, by the way. How is a family run craft brewery doing three months into this like unprecedented economic shutdown so i talked to great lakes brewery i did talk to an e-commerce site sticker you they're great people i spoke to shem and found out how they adapted but i had a great conversation with anthony petrucci his family owns and operates palma pasta like that like that what is what happens to your local Italian eatery when everything shuts down? So all these conversations and more in that episode of Toronto Mic'd I dropped on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Go listen to that. And shout out to Barb at CDN Technologies. If anyone's having issues with their home network, their work network, their computer, maybe you got some malware you can't get rid of. Maybe you fell for some phishing email. I know some people do that. Call Barb at 905-542-9759. And without further ado, let's get to the topic at hand, which is my decision here. I decided let's bring it down to the core here
Starting point is 00:32:04 and let's do something simple, but we haven't done it yet. And I think it's bring it down to the core here and let's do something simple but we haven't done it yet and I think it's a good one. This is One Hit Wonders. So it'll be interesting to hear people's selections and discuss, okay, was that really their only hit and is that a hit? Those are the
Starting point is 00:32:20 two things I'm going to be thinking about when I listen to these songs. And Mike, to clarify, these are One Hit Wonders from Toronto. Thank you for clarifying. Yes. And what I mean by that is, if you, from our perspective, this is a One Hit Wonder, and I get angry when I play these trivia games. I like One Hit Wonder trivia games, and people will
Starting point is 00:32:36 say, for example, Black Velvet from Atlanta Miles. Oh, Atlanta Miles is a One Hit Wonder. That was their only hit. Because this is clearly an American perspective. From an American perspective, Tom Cochran is a one-hit wonder. That was her only hit. Because this is clearly an American perspective. From an American perspective, Tom Cochran is a one-hit wonder. But from a Toronto perspective, Atlanta Miles and Tom Cochran had several hits.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I'm sure Americans would say Corey Hart. I don't know this for sure. I'm thinking maybe. No, no, don't disrespect Corey Hart like that. Come on, never surrender. Never surrender. Was that a hit in the States? Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Of course. So good. I think so. Okay. So, but you get my gist here, which is from- More like, you know, Sharon, Lois, and Bram. It's Skinny Marinky Dink. They're one hit.
Starting point is 00:33:14 If you ask some Americans, yes, they discount peanut butter jelly, you know. Sorry, you mean jelly. Yes. Or they discount, you know, we brush your teeth, cha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha. I feel like there's this super annoying, and I feel like I'll put myself in this category
Starting point is 00:33:34 sort of the indie rock crowd. It's like the butthole surfers are in a one-hit wonder. They had six albums, and you know, they have the one Radiohead in 96 or whatever. So yeah, there's 96 or whatever so yeah there's many i feel like there's many versions of this i think uh you know it's a good topic it's a topic that you could actually repeat like we could do 50 one hit wonder episodes and have all new songs
Starting point is 00:33:54 because there's so many to choose from i know that personally over the last few weeks i have been kind of like sensitive with my picks and trying to come up with some like real meaning, deep and meaningful sort of songs that are going to touch people. And although I could have picked divinals, I touched myself. I should have this week. That would have been a good one. Love that song.
Starting point is 00:34:14 But you know, I think that this week I went sort of with, for with this, with sort of sillier sort of, you know, let's take, let's have some fun this week. Cause we haven't had some fun in a while. So I went with a lot of fun sort of sillier sort of, you know, let's have some fun this week because we haven't had some fun in a while.
Starting point is 00:34:26 So I went with a lot of fun sort of selections, and I'm almost positive that Hanson's going to get screwed again this week. Rightly so. Rightly so. We reject that. So we're going to begin, as always, we begin with the smartest person in the Zoom room. That's Cam Gordon, in case you didn't know. And we're going to kick off with a one-hit wonder jam,
Starting point is 00:34:50 a one-hit wonder jam by Cam. I can take it to my thinking All the while I hear you singing Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy Lord Why Lord, why, why Lord Why Lord, why, why Lord Why Lord, why, why Lord Okay, so we've got the band here called one um certainly a band name it gets into almost like a
Starting point is 00:35:30 who's on first type thing it's what's the band called one no but what's no the one's the band um so this is kind of a uh i guess you could call them like a ska sort of almost like a bouncy i'd say like sublime but almost more similar to that band magic that had that song rude right um but i i do remember one being played on cfny back in the day but also this song wide load was definitely a crossover hit i definitely remember this on it was probably like the hog or whatever the top 40 station at the time was um so again wide load this song is from an album called smoking the goats it came out in 94 um talk about butts i think you know wide load a lot of sort of innuendo i feel like this is one
Starting point is 00:36:24 of those songs i mean i'm not sure it would fly these days you know it's load, a lot of sort of innuendo. I feel like this is one of those songs. I mean, I'm not sure it would fly these days. You know, it's kind of a playful bouncy, but, you know, I think it's just a different time. But, yeah, the band won. And most interestingly about this band is the subsequent career of one of its members, Chris Taylor, has, who went on to become a real,
Starting point is 00:36:46 continues to be a real big player in the Canadian music industry. He was in this band? Yeah. President of E1, founded Last Gang Records, one of the producers of House of Strombo, worked with all sorts of people in the industry, Nelly Furtado, Avril Lavigne, Drake,
Starting point is 00:37:03 Sum 41, like a real player. And yeah, he was in the band one who sang Wide Load back in the day. So it's always interesting when we see people who are in bands and then go into more corporate roles in the music industry.
Starting point is 00:37:17 He was a big entertainment attorney. Yeah, exactly. He worked for I think Sanderson, whatever that law firm is right out of school um and this i'm just getting from his wikipedia page he's such a big deal he's much like stew stone he has his own uh wikipedia page but uh back in 94 he was bouncing around on stage with the band one uh singing wide load and uh a bit of a one-hit wonder in toronto a short pretty short-lived band but i think most people who grew up in the city will probably remember this song.
Starting point is 00:37:46 It was a pretty big hit. So I feel like maybe I – did I tackle this subject wrong? I sent Mike my selections. He wrote back, perfect, but maybe not. That's a very Toronto-centric pick that Kim selected. Just a coincidence. I do appreciate starting off with a Toronto ska band. Yeah, very Toronto-centric.
Starting point is 00:38:06 But the only rule here, just to reiterate, is that from a Toronto's perspective, this was a one-hit wonder. So if you picked, I'm going to pick one nobody picked, which I think is like a great example of a one-hit wonder. Somebody that I used to know by Gautier, okay? That guy's not Canadian, but that is is a definitive,
Starting point is 00:38:26 from a Toronto perspective, that gentleman had one massive hit. Sorry, I feel like I totally botched this. I thought we were just going by Toronto artists. That's what I, yeah. And I specifically asked that. So Cam's going to present us with five Toronto artists that had one hit.
Starting point is 00:38:44 That's going gonna be really good i'm curious to see yeah i mean it's it's a it's a great list i think some songs we haven't heard in a while either way but i i do apologize i was wondering why wide load was your selection but uh i haven't heard this science since it came out in 94 probably and we probably had fun at the expensive Farbsie singing this song but I would say that it does sort of have like a Moxie Fruvis kind of sound to it too yes
Starting point is 00:39:14 I don't know if you guys remember this band Gypsy Soul we're sort of like on the Toronto club scene like one of those bands that were kind of I think really only popular inonto would play shows with like the bourbon tabernacle choir but just kind of like a fun bouncy band you would see live that got quite popular in toronto never really had any radio hits but i remember a lot of gypsy soul fans again to aforementioned farbsy i feel like was was into them they're probably open for like blues
Starting point is 00:39:43 blues traveler when they come to town and stuff like that. Who's calling there? Who's calling? Take it live on the show. Take it live. Okay. So just now that I look at everybody's picks, just this will be interesting because yes.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Okay. So Cam did take that approach. I didn't even notice because some of these songs, I never heard of a couple of these, but okay. And meanwhile, one more time. What is the topic?
Starting point is 00:40:05 One hit wonders. Oh, it is. And meanwhile, one more time. What is the topic? One hit wonders. Oh, it is. I thought this was like so simple. It couldn't be screwed up and neither, none of you screwed it up. We'll get to it. We'll talk about it. But I mean, you did get it right, which is that all I needed, these are one hit wonders.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And what I mean by, and the only reason I said even brought Toronto into it from a Toronto perspective is for the, the aforementioned, the Tom Cochran situation where, uh, Tom Cochran is a one hit wonder maybe to somebody in Dallas, Texas, and they might make the right argument that that's a one hit wonder.
Starting point is 00:40:34 But if you're from a Toronto perspective, if you said Tom Cochran was a one hit wonder, you would be wrong. Gotcha. Okay. I did misunderstand, but the good thing is I think my five picks still hold up even
Starting point is 00:40:46 within that confine, so it's all good. I intentionally, well, we'll get to it, but I intentionally chose five Canadian songs just because there's so many One Hit Wonders, I thought it'd be more fun if I refine it a bit. So you've just gone further. You're doing five Toronto songs that are One Hit Wonders. I did five Canadian songs, and
Starting point is 00:41:03 I love that we have Stu Stone Stone who took a more global approach. So let's kick off. I'll say this, Mike. One final comment is that all the more amazing that you and I picked one of the same songs coming from different lenses. Right. We still had one song of overlap. More on that soon. Well, I'll tell you, just based on what you guys are telling me, this is like know cambrio market on the board this is sounds like a stewstone runaway hit uh it seems like i'm
Starting point is 00:41:30 just gonna dominate this week and uh because i'm bringing hits to the table let's hear a hit hey don't do a smart wide load how dare you I get to trace your private number, baby. All I know is that's me. You look like you got some fire. Open up your loving eyes. I want some. Well, I have said my side. There's a banger off the top for Stu Stone.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Banger. The chorus hasn't hit yet, but this is Dead or Alive. You want the chorus? I'll wait. Sure. Sure. You spin me right round, baby, right round All right. There you go.
Starting point is 00:43:02 This is You Spin Me Round. Lots of fun facts behind this hit. Really, really interesting stuff. The most interesting of it, of course, is that how did they come up with You Spin Me Right Round Baby? Well, according to my research, the lead singer... For some reason, I can't... I know he's just like this really wild guy.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I can't, Kent Burns or something like that. I forget what his name is. But anyway, not Ken Burns. He was listening to a Luther Vandross song called I Want Your Love. I Wanted Your Love. Pete Burns. Pete Burns. Pete Burns. That's right. So Pete Burns was listening to Luther Vandross song called I Want Your Love. I Wanted Your Love. Pete Burns. Pete Burns. Pete Burns.
Starting point is 00:43:46 That's right. So Pete Burns was listening to Luther Vandross' song I Wanted Your Love, and that's when he sort of came up with this. And in the song he even says, I want your love. So you would never guess that a Luther Vandross song inspired one of the biggest one-hit wonder songs of 1985, of course. You Spin Me Right Round came out in 85. It went to number one in the UK, taking 17 weeks on the charts before it finally got
Starting point is 00:44:17 to number one. And interestingly enough, when they recorded the song, the record company hated the song. They didn't want him to record it. He submitted the demo. He went on his own and took out a loan of 2,500 pounds in 1985. So that is probably the equivalent of like 10 grand. He took out $2,500 to record the song. Then he went to present the song to the record label.
Starting point is 00:44:45 They said it's awful. They wanted nothing to do with it and so he went out and borrowed more money to fund the production of the song's music video so the label didn't pay for the recording of the single or the music video and of course the song became a worldwide smash you spin me right round and i remember having this um like the uh the 45 of uh of uh of this song as a youngster well it was a smash absolutely global smash and so i look at two things now i'm going to be doing this for all of your picks so i'm gonna is it a hit that's my first question without a doubt this is a monster number one hit so you satisfy that criteria it is a hit so the only other thing i look at will be from a Toronto perspective, which is really the only perspective I have, full disclosure,
Starting point is 00:45:32 was there any other Dead or Alive hits that I cannot remember any. So I do a little cheating. I look at Wikipedia. And I'm going to play. I just want to know if this rings a bell at all because I don't know this song by title. But I'm going to play a song that want to know if this rings a bell at all because I don't know this song by title, but I'm going to play a song that went to number 27 on the Canadian charts and I just want to hear if it remembered it at all.
Starting point is 00:45:52 So. This is, this is DOA's Dead or... DOA. Yeah. It's Dead or Alive as well? Right, so this song is called Brand New Lover. I'm just going to wait for the hook and then... All right, so I'm going to make my ruling, Cam. I'm making my ruling.
Starting point is 00:46:19 This is acceptable. Stu Stone, that's a good example of a one-hit winner. One last sort of fun fact. The producers, the producing trio that produced You Spin Me Round, Stock Aitken Waterman, which is a production trio out of the UK, You Spin Me Right Round Baby was their first number one song. These guys went on to have over 100 songs in the Hot 100 over their career, including Never Gonna Give You up by Rick Astley.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Same producers of you spin me right round, baby also did never going to give you up by Rick Astley. So I was going to say like, I haven't heard you spin me right round in a while. I, it's, it's sort of heavier than I remembered it sort of reminds do you guys know the song Nemesis by the band
Starting point is 00:47:08 Shriekback it almost sounds like sort of a Martin Streep type song like the Dead or Alive song I don't know I don't remember being so aggressive and angry in your memory it was more like
Starting point is 00:47:24 Take On Me by A-Ha or something and meanwhile it's got a bit of a it's angry in your memory it was more like take on me by aha or something yes and meanwhile it's yeah it's got a bit of a it's got some edge to it there for the record cam gordon do you remember this song at all what's it called brand new love or brand new lover i don't you don't remember this right i don't remember it at all okay so i should have done this with your jam as well Cam from now on remember to do this I gotta make my ruling but just for the record here
Starting point is 00:47:48 I think that's a great example Stu Stone has chosen of a one hit wonder yeah fine choice they're not from Toronto but we'll let them that's okay
Starting point is 00:47:56 that wasn't the rule okay I'm gonna quit fucking around I did pick a Canadian one hit wonder and here it is. The O.R. You love the O.R. Uh, here we go, ready to set it off From coast to coast, it's the most and it hits fluff Organized crime's here to start it up You got some trouble with your mouth, you better shut it up
Starting point is 00:48:29 Think twice before you act and try to tackle the funky stuff I take your suckers out like meat on a shish kebab And you don't know it, but your girl's doing kiss and rob And you're the one who wants the corn, but you miss the cob So here's a bit of something new Give me a tootin', salute, and I'll give you my boots Where you need it while I'm playing the thespian I got a ride and you're just a pedestrian I grab a horse and I jump like a questrian I don't even want to interrupt Tom when he's spitting out those lyrics there. But of course, that is Tom Green, who, by the way, was known as MC Bones.
Starting point is 00:48:58 If you ever want to win a bar bet, what was his name in Organized Rhyme? This is Organized Rhyme, and that's Tom Green. Also in this band, though, let's not forget, they always get overlooked, but Greg Campbell, who is known as DJ Pin, and Jordy Ferguson, who is known as DJ Signal. So this is Check the O.R., which from a Toronto perspective was a big hit. Got lots of spins on much music. In the video for this song, Check the OR,
Starting point is 00:49:29 there's a cameo by a couple of local rappers, you know, King Lou and Capital Q. The Dream Warriors. The Dream Warriors. And because at the time I was working at a food city at the Galleria Mall, and it was very exciting to see that they were filming inside the food city at Jane and Finch.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Oh, I always thought it was a lobe for some reason. Not to be mistaken with Lisa Loeb. Who could be a one-hit wonder. Yeah, could fit on this list. I was in a movie with Lisa Loeb. We'll talk about that another time. Stu, I was going to say, you can work this in whenever you want. I assume you
Starting point is 00:50:03 and Tom Green have crossed paths. Yes, of course. So like you're going to say, and you can work this in whenever you want. I assume you and Tom Green have crossed paths. Yes, of course. So like you're 100% go to LA. You have similar rapping styles. No, come on. I do have like lots of encounters with Tom Green over the years. All right. Stu Stone's audio. Stu's audio is gone.
Starting point is 00:50:29 I think he's got a bad cable. Why? We're in like week 15 or something. How come we didn't chip in and send him from Amazon? Okay, you're back. You hear me? Yeah. I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:50:38 I've had many encounters with Tom Green over the years. I would even call, you know, we're not best friends, but we're definitely friends. Like, we know each other. And I've definitely seen, you know, this is not his only rap. He never stopped rapping after this.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And he'll be the first person to start busting out raps at the drop of a dime. But he's, you know, still recorded many more raps, probably even recently. So he hasn't stopped rapping, I'll tell you that, for those who are worried.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I actually saw him do a rap concert in Barrie, of all places. This was probably like 15 years ago. I drove up to Barrie with my ex-wife and my friend Joe, I believe. I got to give Tom Green props because this is a guy who overachieved to levels that we've never seen before. Here's somebody that probably you would think his career in the entertainment industry may have peaked with Checked O.R., but that's nothing compared to what he would end up doing. Speaking of cable tenant shows, the Tom Green Show, which was a cable access show,
Starting point is 00:51:49 ended up becoming a cultural phenomenon all over the world, launching Tom Green into superstardom, being name-checked in Eminem songs. He ended up marrying Drew Barrymore. Don't bury the lead. Let's say that again. This gentleman, Tom Green from Ottawa, we didn't mention Organized Rhymer, an Ottawa trio, married Drew Barrymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:14 And, you know, he went on to do, you know, Freddie got fingered and he had a just, you know, he had a really, really great run, you know, and he's still out there doing comedy and he's, you know, he was, uh, had a really, really great run. Um, you know, and he's still, he's still out there doing comedy and he's, you know, got a very unique sort of cam Gordon sort of, uh, a sense of humor. I was going to say like, and this is not an original thought, there's been articles written about this, but stuff like the Tom Green show and later obviously jackass really did sort
Starting point is 00:52:42 of predict just sort of the idea of like viral videos and like a lot of why like oh yeah even like tiktok and all this shit became popular um and you see like a million versions of that sort of thing even with uh you know jake paul and logan paul and like all these kind of creators i mean but without the internet you gotta give you know this is a real tag team sort of success story where word of mouth was everything. And, you know, everybody was talking about Tom Green and you had to see it. And it was really interesting that MTV was airing episodes nationally or internationally all over the world on MTV that were like these cable 10 episodes of him and his buddy Glenn, you know, going around causing trouble and terrorizing his parents and putting poo on the end of microphones or whatever the hell.
Starting point is 00:53:29 It was amazing. It was, I remember watching on, uh, on cable on 10 and it was great. And it's similar time period of like when you would watch like the buzz with Mr. Mo and Darren Jones. That's right. And also I think at the sock was on cable 10 of Harland Williams. Yeah. It's amazing. There were so few outlets. With someone like Tom Green, you sort of,
Starting point is 00:53:49 you know, he ends up on MTV. It's like, oh, that's the Czech BOR guy. And, oh, I think he was on, like, Street Sense in, like, 91. Like, there was some segment. Tom Green? Oh, maybe one segment. Maybe. Yeah, it was just like, but he had, like, had an appearance.
Starting point is 00:54:02 So, like, there was all these little bits of Canadian media at a time when there was just so much less. Trailblazer, like really? I remember going, you know, when I was, I had, when I was, you know, I was having a nice little run there a bunch of years ago, me and Jamie Kennedy were doing rap and doing MTV stuff. I remember like my first sort of a first time getting to hang with Tom Green and realizing that we were now colleagues. Contemporaries. Rap contemporaries. But I definitely made sure to tell him,
Starting point is 00:54:34 check the O.R. You Like It so far. I made sure that he... And as soon as anybody says that to him, he knows that we know... He knows I'm Canadian at that point and it's Friendly Fire at that point. It was an instant icebreaker between the two of us. It's like a secret handshake almost.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Exactly. I love that. Yeah, again, from a Toronto... So I guess I need to hear from both of you now. A, is it a hit from a Toronto perspective? And B, is it the only hit from that band? Well, I think Tom Green would disagree with the fact that that's his uh one hit but uh
Starting point is 00:55:05 as far as organized rhyme goes for sure that's a qualifying song yeah i was gonna say tom green did have the bum bum song and other uh you know cop pulitzer level uh work you said jordy's in the band just to clarify that's not jordy it's so hard to be a baby i wish okay just just verify that might take speaking of I wish, Skiro, that would have been a good pick. Yeah, Skiro,
Starting point is 00:55:28 another one. Oh, yeah, we could do a hundred of these. We can have a sequel episode. And maybe then we make it where everyone but Cam has to pick Toronto artists. All right,
Starting point is 00:55:37 let's hear another. Speaking of Cam, here's a second jam. I can't believe what I see I don't know if I should laugh or cry Wonder how this could be I'm not asking why Or was it something I did right To have this vision in the night I never thought I'd live to see
Starting point is 00:56:35 An angel Okay, he said the name of the song, so I'm going to start talking. This is Errol Starr, a Canadian R&B R&B just say like a crossover top 40 artists from the late 80s here in Canada and this is by far his biggest hit it's the song angel again came out in 1989 this won the June award that year for best R&B solo recording. I'm not sure. This is really traditional R&B, but they'll be able to let it go. Errol Starr,
Starting point is 00:57:12 someone, people probably remember this song, if you're of a certain generation, was a pretty big hit on Much Music and CFPR back in the day. Errol Starr had a pretty interesting, I'll just say a life since then. He was in a rock band called Harbinger prior to this. He later moved to Hamilton and went into a country music duo,
Starting point is 00:57:32 if you can believe it, called North Star. And in the early 2000s, this was on his Wikipedia page. I kind of love this. It said he and his family moved to Kilalo, and said he and his family moved to Kilalo, which is a community west of Ottawa where they built an environmentally sustainable off-the-grid home in an earthship style.
Starting point is 00:57:54 So he's living in some kind of biodome west of Ottawa, which is really interesting. And this is a good fun fact. I don't know if you guys know who Tasha the Amazon is. A young female... I do not young female pop artist here in Toronto. That's actually his niece. She's kind of a big deal. I believe we've even featured her on some stuff at Twitter Canada
Starting point is 00:58:17 and some content we've done. But yeah, his niece performs under the name Tasha the Amazon and making waves in the Canadian hip-hop scene, also a Juno nominee. So, Stu, do you remember this song, Angel? You know, it's funny because so far I believe that you're two for two on songs that I haven't heard since they were out. And I'm really, I like that.
Starting point is 00:58:40 So I'm actually, I'm kind of jealous that i didn't go with the same criteria that you went with because i probably could have come up with an interesting list as well but you're really bringing it kim uh there's a song that i don't even remember that i remembered and then i hear it and i remember it well maybe maybe i'll tweet this out i mean errol star technically did have some other singles i'm not sure they're hits um but he he did have a song called for the love of money um that was the cover of uh the song that i'm sure we've all heard a million times i think this was even the theme correct me if i'm wrong for the apprentice like money money money money of course yes yeah so he did like a version of that song and there's a great clip of Errol star performing on the electric circus circa 1988 singing for the love of money.
Starting point is 00:59:29 The crowd's losing their shit. Errol star is clearly like stylistically influenced by, by Prince and some other artists at the time, but it's just like a really fun, joyous clip. I mean, you talk about when sort of life was easier and kind of the media was less messy.
Starting point is 00:59:45 It's fucking Errol Starr, 299 Queen, dancing in an electric circus. Everyone looks so nerdy in very 80s. It's just, it's a great feel good 3-minute clip. Maybe I'll tweet it out later. That's back when anybody could show up and dance at an electric circus
Starting point is 01:00:01 before they sort of recruited the good- looking people. There was a moment. I had buddies who would be, hey, we'd see them on Electric Circus and then they'd go to high school and go, hey, I saw you there. And then at some point, they quite literally, and shout out to Warren Peace,
Starting point is 01:00:18 tragically murdered in 93 at Carleton University. Warren Peace was a good man. Warren Blackwood. At some point they changed it up where it's like they recruited you from nightclubs because you were good looking. Like it really did change overnight. Yeah, it had a real casual vibe.
Starting point is 01:00:35 And I think Chris Shepard had a show that was similar, like a dance party type show. Oh, because the same company, and I can't remember, is it Selkirk? I can't remember. But the same company that bought 102't remember is it selkirk i can't remember but the same company that bought uh 102.1 uh cfoy owned chch so a whole bunch of like properties like even humble and fred at a dance party on uh on chch at some point but chris shepherd too i've seen those yeah well you know when uh fred patterson gets out on the dance floor it's uh
Starting point is 01:01:02 snow removal machine okay Okay. So Kim, and I want to hear from Stu, of course, in a moment, but absolutely. I remember that song very well. And like Stu, I haven't thought of that song.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I don't think I've thought of that song since I heard it on CFTR or something in the late eighties or something. And it came right back to me right away. I knew what I was right there. Like, that's a, that's a hook. I remember I couldn't have told you to save my life.
Starting point is 01:01:24 If you said, who sings this song? And you played it and I'd say, oh yeah, that's Angel by, I wouldn't be able to tell you that artist to save my life. I completely forgot. You know what I thought it was? Because it sounds very similar. I don't know. This is Talk About One at Wonder. Waiting for a Star to Fall by Tori Vance Girl.
Starting point is 01:01:41 That's a great song. Similar vibe to Angel by Errol Starr. Waiting for a Star to Fall is like a real song girl that's a great song similar similar vibe to angel by errol star right waiting for a start of fall is like a real awesome song carry me back into your arms back very whole very wholesome very wholesome so uh yes i'm calling that that's a from a toronto perspective that was a hit and for sure that's a one hithit wonder. Great choice, Cam Gordon. Thank you. All right, you want a big hit now? Do you want a hit?
Starting point is 01:02:08 Okay, Cam Brio, you ready? Stu wins again. Here we go. Here we go. Who's watching? Who's watching? Who's watching me? I'm just an average man with an average life I work from 9 to 5, hell, I pay the price All I want is to be left alone in my average home But why do I always feel like I'm in the twilight zone?
Starting point is 01:03:04 I always feel like somebody's watching me All right. Well, you know, years before Slick Rick was rapping with British twang, you had Rockwell rapping this hit, Somebody's Watching Me. Lots of fun facts behind this one. If you are wondering, that is Michael Jackson singing on the chorus. Of course, Rockwell is the son of Barry Gordy, Motown head honcho Barry Gordy.
Starting point is 01:03:57 His son, Kennedy Rockwell Gordy. And this is Rockwell's big hit, which was released by Mot motown and uh ironically michael jackson is singing i always feel like somebody's watching me but here's a fun fact the guy's singing uh and it's just a privacy or you know the second line of the chorus that's jermaine jackson whoa so you have mich Michael and Jermaine Jackson singing on the chorus, which most people don't give Jermaine the props, but he's on there.
Starting point is 01:04:30 And this song peaked at number two on the billboard, hot 100. The two songs that were on the charts that it never surpassed were jump by Van Halen and footloose by Kenny Loggins're the only songs ahead of this song on the chart. But I always feel like somebody's watching me. Big song. This was a perfect slice of 80s Top 40 paranoia. I always put this song with Rumors by the Timex Social Club in the same category.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Another great one, one hit wonder. Yeah. But sort of almost some similar lyrical terrain about paranoia and police, the police, every breath you take. Is that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Like a little surveillance vibes. It's a little, a little stalkery. Also, it was like a creepy video, like in the vein of that. Yes. Owner is a owner of a lonely heart video where there was like some sort of scary or or some abstract stuff like herbie hancock rocket video had this
Starting point is 01:05:31 one had that sort of vibe to it um and of course the song uh revived um later on by a geico commercial uh the song came back but you know Barry Gordy's offspring this is not the only of his offspring to have commercial success on the rhythmic charts not only is Rockwell his son but of course LMFAO
Starting point is 01:05:59 of Party Rock fame Red Fu is also Barry Gordy's son I did not know that so Barry Gordy's son. I had no idea. I did not know that. Yeah. So Barry Gordy has sons and they have music careers. A bit of an aside, but this may be kind of a one-on-one to Akineli.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Put it in your mouth. The Harvey Hancock line, which is perhaps maybe not for repeating on a family program like this. Wow, I didn't know any of that, like Barry Gordy's son. It sort of makes sense. Obviously, a guy who had a lot of sway in the music industry. However, according to
Starting point is 01:06:36 folklore, Rockwell was sort of an estranged son of Barry, and one of Barry Gordy's long-time collaborators is the one that sort of an estranged son of Barry. And one of Barry Gordy's longtime collaborators is the one that sort of worked with this son to make this music career happen. And Barry put it out on Motown Records.
Starting point is 01:06:54 So there you go. Okay, so it satisfies a criteria big time in terms of is it the only hit? And absolutely, it was a monster hit as well. So good picks too. But is it fair to say if Michael Jackson doesn't sing the chorus, this song, would it be a hit? Probably not.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Probably not. And I think this was released in the heyday of Michael Jackson. So you have to understand. I always thought, before doing research, I always thought this was like a Michael Jackson demo that like he just sang a chorus. And then Barry Gordy's son was like, Hey,
Starting point is 01:07:29 I'll try something on this and put some verses to it. But that's not the case. Song actually written by Rockwell. And Michael really came in and sang the hook in with Jermaine. And that hook makes that song like that song. That's a, that song is the hook, right?
Starting point is 01:07:43 So that's, and it's Michael Jagger, right? At the height of his powers, right? So this is like a thriller I'd already dropped and was already spawning, you know, big monster hits. Is the song still playing?
Starting point is 01:07:55 No. It's over. So next time you listen to that song, listen to the chorus because you can clearly hear Jermaine. Now that you know that Jermaine's on there, you can hear Jermaine. Will do, buddy. Are you kidding me? It's going right on my bike ride playlist right after this Pandemic Friday episode.
Starting point is 01:08:11 So good choice, Stu, Cam. I think you'll agree that qualifies as a great example of a one-hit wonder. Okay, so I'm going to kick out another jam, another Canadian jam, not Toronto, but Canada. Here we go. Ashley the kizik Wow ស្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប់ប្រូវានប្រូវានប្រូវានប្រូវានប្រូវានប្រូវានប្រូវានប្រូវានប្រូវានប្រូវានប្រូវា Okay, by the way, I still love this song. So I just want to preface this by saying
Starting point is 01:09:35 here's a jam from the mid-90s that I still listen to a lot and still love. And yes, it's Ashley MacIsaac on the fiddle there. And that voice, that woman's voice on this song, Sleeping Maggie, is Mary Jane Lamond. And I believe she's singing... Which I guess a lot of people may have listened to this song back then and thought that she was Ashley MacIsaac. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Yeah, because Ashley goes... Yeah, it could be either. So I believe she's singing in Gaelic, if I remember correctly. So this song, I don't know, it got a lot of... It was a big hit in these parts and he won for what it's worth. He did win a Juno for Roots and Traditional Album of the Year
Starting point is 01:10:13 because his album was called Hi, How Are You Today? with a trademark symbol after the word hi. And I love the jam and I consider this a one-hit wonder by Ashley MacIsaac. A couple of comments here. It wouldn't be a Pandemic Fridays if I didn't mention the band Enigma.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I sort of put this in with Enigma. Moby, Moby maybe. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like let's mash up some classic, you know, more traditional music styles with beats um i don't know mike i might challenge you on this one because ashley mckissick i mean he did have the song devil in the kitchen his big breakout hit i'd argue that was a pretty big hit how does that go i don't remember here i'll dig it up here it's an instrumental song it It's like a wild fiddle dirge. I'd have to hear it.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I'd have to hear it. Yeah. Okay, because I... Here, let me bring down... Distorted guitar. You know what? Actually, Cam, I'm going to call myself out. Thank you for keeping me honest here. I'm going to say, once again, I'm going to lose because I don't even believe now that my own selection here of Sleepy Maggie qualifies.
Starting point is 01:11:38 This was, I would say this is a hit Toronto perspective hit. I will say, though, from what I recall, Sleepy Maggie was a multi-onto perspective hit i i will say though like from what i recall sleepy maggie was a multi-format hit like i'm sure they played it probably on like chfi back in the day but certainly i think his song with the most mass appeal whereas devil in the kitchen or the third single from that album brenda stubert um were more modern rock radio more sort of of course
Starting point is 01:12:08 Ashley MacIsaac went on to do great things in life like possibly go to jail for sexual misconduct or something like that I remember not really great stories about Ashley MacIsaac am I wrong in thinking that? No he had a young boyfriend, right?
Starting point is 01:12:25 Like 17-year-old boyfriend, I think, when he was far too old to have such. I believe there is definitely something there. I don't know the specifics, but I do remember him having a very young boyfriend. I'm just looking at his Wikipedia page. He had some issues making some racist statements on stage. Anyway, this is all sort of detailed on his Wikipedia page
Starting point is 01:12:46 if you want to read that on your own time. For a variety of reasons, yeah, for a variety of reasons, I chose a very poor song, but I love the song Sleepy Maggie regardless. And now that I'm listening to Devil in the Kitchen, absolutely knew it well. Like, you know, it wasn't mainstream
Starting point is 01:13:04 like the other one as i recall but uh it was a kick-ass jam and i was always impressed by what the man could do with a fiddle like this is a fiddle and he's like pumping out like like this punky rock stuff that just kicked kind of ass so yeah uh my one hit wonder is not actually a one hit wonder and i feel great shame yeah there's actually some interesting stuff here on his Wikipedia page. He's a distant cousin of Jack White. Did we know that? Is that known? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Yeah, and also he apparently lives in Windsor, Ontario now. I didn't know that either. So there you go. Maybe to be closer to Jack White in Detroit. Who knows? I'm wondering, is his address registered somewhere? All right. knows i'm wondering is this address uh registered somewhere all right uh on uh on uh okay so i i did very poorly there but you know stew's gonna win anyway so the game is rigged the only way you
Starting point is 01:13:53 cannot lose is if you don't play so the only winning move is not to play correctamundo so here's cam's third jam Sam's Third Jam. Everybody get up, jump off and go hey. Come on, everybody, come on. Because I said hey. Don't care what no problems say. Here's a prediction. I bet Stu Stone might have never heard this song. No, it sounds like it's from a beer commercial or something. Yeah, Stu, I feel like you were probably in LA already, if my timelines are correct, when this song came out and this is
Starting point is 01:14:45 definitely a one hit wonder and a very fleeting moment in popular music history. This is the band BTK not to be confused with the BTK killer. I think that's like a serial killer is it not?
Starting point is 01:15:00 Blood Torture Kill? What did the B stand for? Yeah so in this case, BTK stands for Birth Through Knowledge. So a more positive message there. Toronto band. This song's called Peppy Rock. And this was a pretty big hit.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Canadian hit. Canadian Wanda Wonder back in the late 90s. Had a very memorable video that had kind of a Sesame Street Avenue Q vibe with puppets jamming out. Also Mr. Oizo. Remember that video around the same time? Big, big moment for puppets. BTK, I remember seeing this band open for, I want to say,
Starting point is 01:15:42 somebody weird like the Thresh Hermit or like Trouble Charger seeing these two guys rap on stage which is kind of a DJ which at the time opening for a guitar band was still sort of a new thing BTK sort of had a moment on the alternative rock circuit, toured on the Our Lady Peace Somersault festival tour Also opened shows for Beastie Boys, Kid Rock, other artists at the time. So kind of had a short fleeting moment in the late 80s, but sorry, late 90s.
Starting point is 01:16:14 But yeah, I think a pretty clear one hit wonder with the song Peppy Rock. Mike, do you remember this? You remember this song? I do, but I don't remember like where did we hear this like was it much music i feel like it's literally like the all new labatt ice coming soon to your backyard i was gonna say this does sound like a song that could have been written you know by an ad agency you know what sort of a similar sound maybe a song that would have also
Starting point is 01:16:43 qualified as a one-hit wonder was uh what's the band that was doing scooby snacks running around yeah fun loving criminals right fun loving criminals thank you i just remember that great jam uh you mentioned uh confusing acronyms right so blood torture kill or whatever the beast did for and uh be something through knowledge what was it through knowledge birth through knowledge i just this just a couple of days ago on twitter maybe yesterday i told dank i called danko jones and fotm and he thought i was calling him a flavor of the month and yeah speaking of people have had an interesting week on uh twitter like i don't know if you've seen, he's been very vocal about... Indie88.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Yes, exactly. And, yeah, like, Danko's, I mean, he's got some opinions. Like, it's great to see him speak. I've always liked how he's been, like, really... I've had a few run-ins about him about some stuff with my blog in the past. Right. But I do like how
Starting point is 01:17:44 outspoken he is. He's a rare... Much like Stu Stone and Sammy Cohn, he's a mutual guest, right? We don't have a lot of... That's right. Again, remind us the name of your wonderful podcast. The Completely Ignored
Starting point is 01:18:00 Podcast. Which, if you don't know it, it's because you've completely ignored it. Well, you can talk to Sammy about that. I gladly pick it up anytime, but Sammy's busy selling houses. He's busy selling houses. Bashing drums around. It's interesting that I think now of the
Starting point is 01:18:18 people, mutual guests we've had, in fact, I think in addition to Stu Stone, Sammy Cohen, well, I don't think I count, but, and Danko Jones, Davnet Doyle. Oh, Alan Cross. Yeah, Davnet Doyle, yeah, Alan Cross, Eric Alper. I think you've had Raina Durasen before she...
Starting point is 01:18:36 Yes, I have. I guess Lefton came back. I think she's back in Toronto as she waits out the pandemic from her NPR gig. But yeah, I think there's been some overlap over the years. Very good. So yeah, and the Danko Jones thing, I think what sparked it was they had a slogan,
Starting point is 01:18:52 like a promotional marketing poster slogan, which just said something like, definitely not vanilla, I think was. And again, it's worth noting Danko Jones is a person of color. He's not a white dude like me. And he felt like if you're going to have this definitely not vanilla as your slogan, maybe you should have some semblance of non-white representation at your station
Starting point is 01:19:19 because he pointed out that everybody on the airwaves was white. Yeah, I mean, again, show me the receipts. pointed out that everybody was uh on this airwaves was white so just yeah i mean it's just you know it's again show me the receipts i mean you see a lot of brands getting called out like okay you're you know you're making these statements you've got all these memes and these jpegs and these graphics and these out of home signs you've created but can we see some evidence that what you're saying here is consistent with what you're actually doing? So, um, and I know like Twitter, you know, we've been called out too. So like, you know, it's all, all companies are getting these questions and it's,
Starting point is 01:19:53 I think it's good to see personally. If you listen to Toronto Mike, and I know you do, uh, for years, I've been talking about the, uh, as I called the white, the white men of the fan five 90, like for years, I've been talking about how every, at the time, and it's still true. It's actually true today because Ashley Docking isn't longer there. So every person who's got a weekday shift
Starting point is 01:20:15 on the Fan 590 is a white guy. And this is a city in which, what percentage of the city is white guys? Like, it just seems like there should be some diversity on the airwaves. But this is all very big topics, and I'm just glad we're having the conversation. Well, I think that to the credit of Sportsnet, I want to say,
Starting point is 01:20:39 when I first came back to Toronto from Los Angeles and was watching Sportsnet, I was pretty impressed by the diversity I saw with the anchors. There was women and diverse cultures. It seems like everybody was represented pretty well at Sportsnet. This was about the radio station. No, of course. I'm just saying Sportsnet, the television station, seems like it was pretty culturally
Starting point is 01:21:07 diverse on-air personalities over there. I have a question unrelated. Cam, you're a pretty good speller, right? At times. How do you spell D-Groovy?
Starting point is 01:21:23 I see where you're doing here. I like where this is going. Smooth. Thanks. We're going to dance. We're going to dance. We're going to dance and have some fun. Probably the better version of the party song that you just played.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Pretty much. Pretty much. That's because Q-Tip's in here. You played this song on Pandemic Spies before? No. That's shocking. That's right. of what's to come. I couldn't ask for another. No, I couldn't ask for another. Your groove I do deeply dig.
Starting point is 01:22:11 No walls, only the bridge. My Samba dish, my Succotash wish. Sing it, baby. I couldn't ask for another. No, I couldn't ask for another Grooves in the heart Groove is in the heart Groove is in the heart Groove is in the heart
Starting point is 01:22:54 Oh, that's a jam right there, Stu. The summer of 1990 was dominated by this one smash hit by the group D-Lite, Groove is in the Heart. Interestingly enough, the song was originally written in the 80s and was performed many times by the band before finally deciding to record it in 1990. And it would turn out to be the biggest hit that they'll ever do. And lots of different elements coming together to make this song as groovy as it is. The main samples in the song, Herbie Hancock, there he is again. The main sample comes from Herbie Hancock's track, Bring Down the Birds.
Starting point is 01:23:50 And then, you know, you got the drum track from Vernon Birch's Get Up, which I'm not familiar with. Of course, Bootsy Collins is doing guest vocals on there from Parliament Funkadelic. Astronomical. And of course, the first ever taste of Q-Tip in a Tribe Called Quest for mainstream pop radio audiences who maybe were not familiar with a Tribe Called Quest Q-Tip's vocals made their debut. And I don't even think I realized it was Q-Tip until years later. You know, revisiting the song and being like, wait a minute, that's Q-Tip. So there you go. Groove is in the heart. Here's a song that is literally, if you go and look up the accolades, this song racked up, it is on tons and tons of lists, not only of one hit wonders, but the best songs of the nineties,
Starting point is 01:24:41 the best dance songs of all time, the best party songs of all time, the greatest songs of the 90s the best dance songs of all time the best party songs of all time the greatest songs of all time this is in a lot of publications lists of uh the greatest something or other but here's a song that you just drop the needle and instantly your mood has changed and you're dancing and grooving and tyler the creator recently sampled groove is in the heart uh with a song if you want to i don't know if you want to pull that up, but I ain't got time by Tyler. The creator is a really interesting sample from this song, but D light groove is in the heart featuring Q tip.
Starting point is 01:25:16 I mean, I'm trying to remember was that, that first tribe album that people's instinctive yada, yada, yada was the, was that out when this song came out i'm trying to yeah i would imagine i would imagine it was but it just wasn't you know mainstream oh here's the title of the creator sample
Starting point is 01:25:36 so it's just the beginning of the song example oh yeah i hear it So it's just the beginning of the song you sampled. Oh yeah, I hear it. Anyway. We're going to dance and have some fun. Yes. So also a really eclectic music video that I remember vividly, the Groove Is In The Heart music video.
Starting point is 01:26:05 And yeah, like I said, banger. Absolute banger. Do you guys remember John James? Speak of Canadian One It Wonders. He had a couple of hits. And these would have been like Electric Circus Fodder, I Wanna Know.
Starting point is 01:26:23 I wanna know I wanna know Where it all began And where it's gonna go Hey hey I wanna know what you're thinking Tell me what's on your mind Anyway it's just like Canada I think John James is trying to do
Starting point is 01:26:39 Canada's version of Delight Which I'm not sure quite took Cause this I mean this song is just Remarkable I think it's so timeless too Still bangs D-Lite, which I'm not sure quite took. I mean, this song's just remarkable. I think it's so timeless, too. Still bangs. Yeah, it really does. I never get tired of hearing this song.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Oh, big hit. Lots of funk in there, too. Do you guys remember this song at all? I'm just going to bring it up a bit. Is this Love and Sass? No, okay, so there. Okay, so I'm going to say good on you, Stu. You're officially, that is a 1A winner. This song peaked at number 27 on the Canadian charts.
Starting point is 01:27:18 It is called Runaway by D. Light, and I don't remember it. So I was just curious if you guys remembered it. I think I have heard this. Like, it sounds kind of familiar. Honestly, I would not have been able to place this was also D-Lite. So another win for Stu Stone. But here, let me take a crack at
Starting point is 01:27:33 beating Stu. Another Canadian one-hit wonder jam, but unlike the Ashley McIsaac jam, I'm pretty sure you won't be able to ring up another hit for me here, but let's go. I am a better man When I looked a leaper Is this like a song that Pro Jim may have covered at some point? Eddie better covered it, yeah, for that movie Into the Wild or whatever it was called.
Starting point is 01:28:17 And when I climbed down to be set free So we'll wait for the refrain and then I'll talk about this. There's a big, a big hard sun So we'll wait for the refrain and then I'll talk about this. So yeah, the version some younger people might know best is the Eddie Vedder cover of this song. He called it Hard Sun, and that was in the movie Into the Wild. If you saw that, I saw it a few times. I quite liked it. But this is Indio. Indio is the stage name. He grew up in Dundas, Ontario, by the way, which is kind of like Hamilton, if you don't know where Dundas is. And that's another name that needs to change, right?
Starting point is 01:29:03 Yeah. So, yeah, we're going to have to come up with some new names here. But Gordon Peterson is his real name. And this is his one big hit. And this was a big radio staple. This was played a heck of a lot on Toronto radio back in the day. So, uh, in my opinion, it's a great example of a one hit wonder. You guys must remember,
Starting point is 01:29:31 do you guys remember this or do you just remember the, uh, the Ed Vedder? No, I remember this song for sure. Yeah. I think it's one of those songs that, uh,
Starting point is 01:29:39 you've kind of forget about, but when you hear it, you're like, Oh, that's a good song. It's a, it's a good song. Yeah. I, I, I don't know what it is i just this song's just never like this has never done anything for me i'm not sure why i think i'm just i just found it touch boring maybe it's just me i don't know
Starting point is 01:29:59 um fun fun fact about dundas ontario where I've spent a lot of time over the years, especially during my McMaster years. Another very famous musician from Dundas, Ontario is Caribou. You guys know Caribou? Great electronic artist. Won the Polaris Prize. I only know for that reason, but I couldn't name you a song. Okay. Anyway, Dundas has turned out some great musicians, Indio and later Caribou.
Starting point is 01:30:31 I have a fun fact about this song here. So back in 2000, I don't know when it was, actually. I won't drop a year until I can find the year. Oh, yeah, 2009. The songwriter here, we're listening to Gordon Peterson, who recorded as Indio. I think that was the band's name, Indio. But Gordon Peterson sued Eddie Vedder
Starting point is 01:30:52 because when Eddie Vedder covered this song, he changed some of the lyrics. And according to Gordon Peterson, he eroded the integrity of the composition. So apparently if you cover a song and you change it a bit, so Peterson wrote this. Okay. I found the line here. So Peterson sings when she comes to greet me, hold on here. I got to pop up on my webpage standby here. Okay. When she comes to greet me, she is mercy at my feet.
Starting point is 01:31:25 When I stay to pillage her, she just throws it back at me. And Eddie changed it to, when she comes to greet me, she is mercy at my feet. I see her inner charm. She just throws it back at me. So the songwriter took offense to that minor little change to the lyrics. So that's a fun fact. As well he should. Can I make a couple comments about
Starting point is 01:31:50 Eddie Vedder here? Be careful, be careful. They're not bad things. I'm going to mute you. One shameless plug for my blog. I just put out a new piece of content yesterday that's about
Starting point is 01:32:05 Big musicians playing small or weird Venues in Toronto In my research for this I discovered Eddie Vedder actually played Some Guy's Backyard In the Annex At a fundraiser back in 2011 It was like a TIFF thing You can go check it out
Starting point is 01:32:21 Completelyignored.com This is more just like a comment. I found Eddie's transition into baseball dad really interesting. Like showing up at Wrigley Field a lot. It's weird, like him and Billy Corgan are now like just Chicago Cubs. I mean, Billy Corgan, I guess, always had the Chicago roots, but I don't know. I would not have guessed in 92, like Eddie Vedder would just be a baseball dad guy. chicago cub i mean billy corgan i guess always had the chicago roots but i don't know i just would not have guessed in 92 like eddie better would just be a sort of baseball guy now okay so
Starting point is 01:32:51 what we always compare eddie with kurt kurt took his own life at 27 years old kurt cobain and there was a lot of like a lot of like i know eddie uh in his lyrics and stuff he was kind of like struggling with a lot of stuff and he was kind of struggling with a lot of stuff, and he was kind of an introspective person. And at some point, you're right, at some point, he got married and had a child. And then suddenly, I call it happy Eddie. Eddie Vedder seemed to find some happiness.
Starting point is 01:33:18 And I was always very personally pleased to see Eddie kind of come through this. He's really the last man standing from some of those great grunge front men, uh, of the time, like, and to see happy Eddie,
Starting point is 01:33:30 like enjoying life and still being kind of an important voice on social issues makes me as a long time Pearl Jam fanatic, uh, makes me very happy. Well, I was, I was going to say, uh,
Starting point is 01:33:42 Eddie Vedder famously, uh, you know, was one of the flag bearers for the Seattle grunge scene, even though he wasn't from Seattle. Tupac is the king of West Coast rap, and he's not from West Coast. Very similar sort of thing with Eddie Vedder. He's from San Diego. San Diego, I want to say. And he moved up to San Diego.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Well, I can tell you quickly, sorry, is he was in a band called Bad Radio, and as you know, the lead singer of Mother Love Bone died of a heroin overdose. Andrew Wood, I believe, because I think the Alice in Chains song, Wood. Not to be confused with Andrew Ward. Right. Not to be confused with Andrew Ward.
Starting point is 01:34:21 That's right. It's very inside baseball. From Twitter or twitter.com. Right. Shout out to Andrew. But okay. So that song, Alice in Chains is Wood,
Starting point is 01:34:28 which is a great song. I think it's on the single soundtrack too. That's for Andrew Wood. So then, you know, there's Temple of the Dog, right? So that whole comes to be,
Starting point is 01:34:35 I believe Eddie was sending in cassettes, like, and just, they were going to form a band that was coming out of, I can't remember, but yeah, he was a surfer from San Diego
Starting point is 01:34:44 who kept submitting these Was he also in a band called Mookie Blaylock? No, that was Pearl Jam. So Pearl Jam was Mookie Blaylock. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, they changed the name, but they did name their first album 10 because that's the number that Mookie Blaylock. I was going to say, one thing
Starting point is 01:35:00 I always loved about Pearl Jam is I just remember, especially like peak grungyunge era being a teenager it was sort of uncool to like sports to some degree and I always liked Pearl Jam were very vocal about their love of sports and basketball
Starting point is 01:35:15 and we've seen recently with the Last Dance documentary some nice photos of Dennis Rodman on the Bulls and Eddie Vedder hanging out you may have seen those gang pastor on social media. Great show, by the way, I could watch 200 episodes of that. Agreed. I agree. And I miss that show. I had a like a Monday night ritual where I watched the two episodes every
Starting point is 01:35:35 Monday night. I miss it. But see, unlike, unlike the last dance, you know, pandemic Fridays won't leave everybody hanging. We're going to keep, keep on rocking here. And now this, this cam jam is the one that we shared. So before I play it, I had my list of five, and then I got Cam's list of five, and I got Stu's list of five. And the only common jam was this one I'm about to play, which both Cam and I had.
Starting point is 01:36:00 So let's kick it off. Don't want to fall in love? Yeah. And by the way, Cam, I've been singing it all week. Like it's loving this. It's a real earworm. I never knew this was a Canadian jam. Toronto jam. Ain't no person to be by
Starting point is 01:36:45 But you have got to stay away Far, far away from my heart, my heart Don't you know what your kiss is doing? Let me tell it to you from the start, boy I don't wanna fall in love Love is just like a knife Talk to us, Cam. So this is Jane Child, Toronto's own Jane Child, with her, really her only major hit, I Don't Want to Fall in Love, going back to the summer of 1990. Most people would know this song.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Jane Child seemed like she really came out of nowhere, which is kind of strange enough to happen on its own, especially strange when you were born in Canada, because this was like a massive worldwide hit and really did not do much else. I mean, it says right on her Wikipedia page. She was also known for her unique and unusual fashion style, which included hairstyle made of spikes and ankle-length braids and a nose chain piercing, which, you know, is very provocative for 1990.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Yeah. And it looked very dangerous. Yeah, so this was a bit of a slow burn. I mean, this was from her debut album that actually came out in 1989. So similar to D-Lite, it kind of straddled the 80s and 90s. Big hit everywhere. She went on to have two more albums in 1993, something called Here, Not There,
Starting point is 01:38:35 her sophomore album that pretty much went nowhere. And then in 2001, she had an album called Surge, which similarly did not... Was she ever like an infomercial star or is that someone else I'm thinking of? There was like some like diet infomercial exercise something. Oh, shit. I know she had like the shorts. Chain powder.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Chain powder. Prop top and like would wear. Yeah. Is that her? Dress like a grandma at the same time. Is that her? Powder. Susan Powder. Is that good? Powder. Susan Powder?
Starting point is 01:39:06 Daniel Powder? Susan Powder. Yeah, that's another. Daniel Powder would be good for this. That's a perfect one-hit wonder, the Daniel Powder. No, I was going to say Susan Powder. I think you're right, Stu. Susan Powder.
Starting point is 01:39:17 No, that's someone else. Susan Powder. Yeah, she had the blonde, short blonde spiky hair. Yeah, she's an american australian born american motivational speaker and nutritionist personal trainer and author who rose to fame in the 1990s do you remember her catchphrase no stop the insanity oh yeah i was gonna stop the insanity just say you know i think we that we got to cancel that because i don't think we say insane anymore that's not the term do you guys remember deg guys remember on Degrassi Jr. High,
Starting point is 01:39:46 do you remember Spike's friend who had the shape? It would be, she had like- Liz! Is it Liz? I can't remember her name, but she looked a bit like she had a Jane Child kind of look going on, if I remember correctly. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Liz also famously in Degrassi went to see a band we seem to talk about every week, the Pogues. Tim took her to the Pogues concert and he tried to kiss her and she pulled away because she had been... Yes, Liz. Yes, Liz O'Rourke. I'm looking at her now. The actress's name is Kathy Keenan, not to be confused
Starting point is 01:40:18 with Catherine Keenan. I actually hung out with her a little bit backstage at the Degrassi Palooza last summer when they hosted the bullying panel. Yeah, Liz was I actually hang out with her a little bit backstage at the Degrassi Palooza last summer with the... Get out of here. They hosted the bullying panel. Yeah, Liz was there and... I loved her hair.
Starting point is 01:40:30 All the greats. Yeah, it was... All the greats. See, that hair I thought was pretty damn cool because it was like it was shaved, but she kept the bang part like in the front, which I thought was pretty cool. And also, I always think of that look like when I think of Jane Child, I always think of the, the earring and the nose ring had the chain linking it, like you mentioned. And I always, I remember thinking,
Starting point is 01:40:48 Hey, that's pretty cool. But also it's, it always seemed very dangerous. Like I'd be always worried it would catch on something. Well, do you ever like when you're wearing like earbuds and you get it kind of snagged on a door handle and like,
Starting point is 01:41:00 you're kind of get whiplash. Like I wonder if Jane Child uh was subject to that but again getting back to jane child um i don't know it's sort of surprising she didn't have more of a career like literally seemed to drop off the face of the earth after this after this massive worldwide smash um but it's interesting there's so many familiar there's so many familiar nuances that seem lifted from other songs and artists that that sort of make up Don't Want to Fall in Love. Even that like, sounds like a Taylor Dayton song. Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:37 I will say it does really get a very specific nuance of, again, straddling the 80s and 90s. And that wet sound sort of like sort of seems like a 90s song sort of seems like an 80s song but really neither i feel like it was covered by somebody i don't know somebody somewhere must know i don't know of a cover but i do know that yeah there's that wet i don't know what to call it but that kind of that wet sound that almost like that new jack kind of wet sound that you had coming out with like the janna jackson stuff yeah and that kind of those little flourishes like yeah um it does say that it does say on the wikipedia page there was a new jack swing remix by uh not surprisingly teddy riley remix that that that shot up the r&b charts a little bit um yeah she was everywhere she was
Starting point is 01:42:22 on like top of the pops in the uk like. Like again, worldwide smash from Toronto's own Jane Child and never really followed it up with much. Stop the insanity. Yeah, to quote Susan Powder. Similar though, similar, similar. And this is not, I would not accept this person as a one hit wonder from a Toronto perspective, but you might say it from like an American perspective.
Starting point is 01:42:43 But Carly Rae Jepsen, right? Call Me Maybe was number one US smash everywhere, but I don't believe from an American perspective she's ever had a hit since then. No, she did. She had a song like Tom Hanks in the video or something. I think it was maybe only
Starting point is 01:43:01 noticed by us. No, no, no, no, no. I'll have to Google it. I'll have to Google it. She had a second hit. Mike, you're struggling. You're struggling. That's why I'm struggling.
Starting point is 01:43:13 I am struggling because I always get my perspectives confused. But I know that song was a hit here. I really, really, really want you, and I want you to want me too. Yeah, that was big everywhere. She had a song called Come Away With Me that was a big viral video sensation. I didn't pick it. Guys, I didn't pick
Starting point is 01:43:30 Carly Rae Jepsen. We could go on, Mike. You're confusing Vanessa Carlton if I would walk a million miles or the Proclaimers. I think it was only a thousand miles. The Proclaimers, that's another good one.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Oh, no, they had another one I remember. Let's Get Married. Do you remember this? Let's Get Married. Do you remember this? They had another song, I'm On My Way. It's like, I'm on my way. I remember some other Proclaimer jams.
Starting point is 01:43:58 Okay, so here's a big... Wait a minute. Pour a cocktail for this one. And try not to worry. The song was referenced in Fight the Power, which we played last week. Here's a little song I wrote You might want to sing it note for note Don't worry
Starting point is 01:44:42 Be happy Don't worry, be happy. In every life we have some trouble. But when you worry, you make it double. Don't worry, be happy. Don't worry, be happy now. Don't worry, be happy. Don't worry, be happy. Easier said than done. Bobby McFerrin.
Starting point is 01:45:19 The first acapella song to reach number one on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, which is a position it held for two weeks. I'm surprised because I thought Billy Joel had a big acapella hit. Wasn't number one. Okay, okay. And ironically, the song that it replaced on the chart when Bobby McFerrin and Don't Worry Be Happy took number one. You know what song it knocked out of the number one spot?
Starting point is 01:45:50 I have no idea. Sweet Child O' Mine by Guns N' Roses was overthrown by Don't Worry Be Happy. That is a fun fact right there. Pretty much the same song. In Canada, the song reached number one in its eighth week after release. Bobby McFerrin, of course,
Starting point is 01:46:11 blew us all away once we all sort of saw him sort of do this live. I think it was on David Letterman when he was like doing like the whole like hitting himself and tapping his cheeks. Every kid was sort of doing their own Bobby McFerrin sort of thing back then. It kind of makes me sad when I hear the song
Starting point is 01:46:30 because it sort of reminds me of just innocent times as a kid. And just, you know, this was such a massive hit. You know, it reminds me like, you know, I think like CeeLo Green, FU or one of these sort of gimmicky sort of hit songs. None of those would exist, I think, without Don't Worry, Be Happy. But Bobby McFerrin saw the expression, which is an old Indian mystic expression, Don't Worry, Be Happy. He saw a poster that said, Don't Worry, Be Happy.
Starting point is 01:47:00 And he decided to write the song, which got picked up by the Cocktail soundtrack, did not chart in the top 10 from being on the Cocktail soundtrack, and then the song was re-released a year later and became a worldwide smash. Of course, Robin Williams is in the music video. Another fun fact, George H.W. Bush
Starting point is 01:47:26 used Don't Worry, Be Happy as his song in the 1988 presidential election and Bobby McFerrin did not give him permission and McFerrin, who is a Democrat, publicly protested the use of the song
Starting point is 01:47:40 stating that he was going to vote against Bush which obviously didn't work out because Bush won the election. And so, you know, before Rolling Stones were telling Donald Trump, don't play, you can't get what you want. Bobby McFerrin was telling George Bush, don't play, don't worry, be happy. Of course,
Starting point is 01:47:58 Bobby McFerrin, one could argue, had a second hit as he was the man behind the Cosby show theme song. Not a hit. But not a hit. I was going to say a couple of things about almost the expression. Like it just became sort of like, whoomp, there it is. It just became part of like vernacular. You would see like just random crappy t-shirts.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Yeah. With a smiley face. Yeah, For sale on Yachtly Face. Yeah, Smiley Face. They say, don't worry, be happy. And like on Full House, like Baby Michelle would be, don't worry, Joey, be happy. Like laugh track. Like it just, it was so ubiquitous, the term,
Starting point is 01:48:38 don't worry, be happy. And one of those things like almost like Bart Simpson, eat my shorts or. Don't have a cow, man. Yeah, just these, you know, where's the beef? You know, these things that for whatever reason become part of the pop culture vernacular and Don't Worry, Be Happy was certainly in the mix there.
Starting point is 01:48:54 And again, I said it at the top, but like last week when we did the protest music, I closed with Fight the Power by Public Enemy, which includes the lyrics by Chuck D. Don't Worry, Be Happy was a number one jam. Damn if I say you could slap me right here. I gotta say, actually, this is someone that Stu knows from our youth,
Starting point is 01:49:14 someone I'm still friends with and talk to, Mark Fuller. Oh, Full Dog. Full Dog, Full Z. Someone we went to school with. I remember, I guess it was 1989 or 1988, Ben Johnson wins the gold medal, gets suspended. It's like speech contest at German Mills Public School in Thorndale.
Starting point is 01:49:33 Mark Froehler goes to the front of the class, reads a poem about Ben Johnson that had the repeat stanza, Ben, you got suspended, but don't worry, be happy. Ben, Charlie Francis is on trial. Your urine test failed, but don't worry, be happy. This like solemn spoken word poem that incorporates. Sorry, that just randomly popped into my head, but it is a weirdly vivid memory from. It left a mark.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Okay. By the way, I have a trivia. During the pandemic, a lyric that holds up today, specifically in the pandemic from the song, your landlord says your rent is late. He may have to litigate. Don't worry. Rowdy Tellez, if you follow that. I did follow that.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Budzinski. Budzinski, right. Hey, quick trivia question. So we all know in that video it has Bobby McFerrin and it has Robin Williams. Who can tell me the third person that appears in the Don't Worry, Be Happy video? Bill Irwin, not to be confused with Wild Bill Irwin. Correct, but did you know that or did you cheat? I didn't cheat.
Starting point is 01:50:41 I did research on, you know, I do my homework before I do these songs. So I had that prepared already. But had I not had that prepared, I would not have known that. Is that the same guy who's in Groundhog Day who gets punched in the face by Bill Murray eventually? Do you know who I'm talking about? Oh, you're talking about Ned Ryerson? Ned Ryerson, yeah. Not the same guy.
Starting point is 01:50:59 No. Stu, I hope you're right because Basement, I almost called him Basement Dweller, Hades Dweller is going to tell you that wasn't really, you got the wrong actor. So just make sure you get your stuff right, okay? Bill Irwin. Bill Irwin.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Ned Ryerson is the guy's name. What do you mean, Ned? Ned Ryerson? Ned! I trust you. I trust you. Okay, so I'm going to kick out my fourth jam. And yeah, so far, by the way,
Starting point is 01:51:22 two of my three jams are one hit wonders so i'm only hold on sorry sorry sorry just before you do that there was a string of music videos that had like comedian guest stars around this time call me al yeah call me al uh you know there was also like a michael mcdonald video i think that had uh uh uh like the like gregory hines and Gene Wilder or something in the video. I don't know. Maybe I'm just imagining, but I know Dan Aykroyd was showing up in videos. When the going gets tough, the tough gets going.
Starting point is 01:51:55 There was all these videos with celebrities in them. Well, just the weird Ghostbusters, like John Candy was in it, but even though he wasn't in the movie. Right, right, right. Yeah, it was the thing to do back then, just throw some comic you know into the video as like a cameo. Okay, this is, I'm going
Starting point is 01:52:10 to Toronto with this one, so I've been doing all Canadian jams, and here's one I got before Cam could get it. Maybe because Cam will tell me about all the other hits I missed, which is fine, but here we go. Oh, no, no, no. Is this like the TTC song or something like that? Take the train? The Spadina bus.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Yeah. Yeah. Iconic music video for this one. You want to see what Toronto in the 80s was like. So this is the Spadina Bus. This is the Shuffle Demons. And let me talk a bit. It would be kind of a good companion to Romantic Traffic by Spoons. It's a video for Romantic Traffic.
Starting point is 01:53:54 But this is Spadina Bus, and yeah, I don't know if there's a more Toronto jam out there, but this thing got airplay and much music. Go ahead. Similar rapping style to Tom Green and rockwell and uh sort of like a rap but not really a rap is it a rap is it not a rap of course kensington market i remember very vividly images of kensington market in the 80s from the video that was played back in the day i haven't thought of this song in 100 years but this now that i'm older and i can look back this kind of reeks of a bunch of uh um uh what's the school what's the music school that everybody goes to uh like an atobical
Starting point is 01:54:34 school of the arts no no no no like a it's like a college oh conservatory Royal Conservatory of Music? No. Trebizons. Trebizons. No, no, no. DeVry. DeVry. No, no, no. I'll look it up, but this seems like music nerd kind of group that kind of got thrown together. I would say this is like 88, I feel like this came out. This definitely predicted the later success of bands like
Starting point is 01:55:03 Bare Naked Ladies the aforementioned Moxie Fruvis perhaps even Crash Test Dummies this sort of playful generation of Canadian bands Shuffle Demons It's really kind of a moment in time
Starting point is 01:55:18 this kind of a song this video was on MuchMusic our national music station I mean it really speaks to the program we've touched on was i mean this video was on much music right the national our national music station uh yeah i mean really speaks to the program we've touched on at length on this podcast before but you know whether it was this or like shadowy men on shadowy planet the shadowy countdown the fact yeah like sort of a certain generation of canadian music fans knew these songs that were like you know really just like queen street bands that somehow got on national tv like it's pretty pretty amazing in hindsight given how media worked back then
Starting point is 01:55:50 do you remember the song papa's got a brand new pig bag do you remember by the band pig bag pig bag right and i bring that humber humber humber music but these humber okay that's what you were wait humber college i don't think so i i'm trying to think of what it is but like like there's bands like uh a bunch of musical bands have come out of this school and it's like uh you know they got like a it's like a jazzy sort of type of musician that would have uh there's a band bad bad not good that i think or came from what you're talking about tbtbt no that's a different band. Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:26 So, okay, but Pig Bag. I brought up Pig Bag because that was a theme song to like... Dun, dun, dun, dun. Yeah, that was a theme song. Was it the new music? What was that theme song to? The new music, right?
Starting point is 01:56:34 Yes. But this song, the Shuffle Demons doing Spadina Bus, Toronto staple there, that was the theme song to Speaker's Corner. Okay, yeah. I'm just naming now songs that I could do. I'm Still Standing
Starting point is 01:56:50 by Elton John, which was the theme song to City Line with Deanie Petty. I feel like I don't know about you guys. A lot of these songs I knew first is like TV theme songs. Sure, like Animotion. We talk about Animotion every week on this damn Pandemic Fridays. Animotion a lot of these songs I knew first is like TV theme songs. Um,
Starting point is 01:57:05 sure. Like animation. We talk about animation every week on this damn pandemic Fridays, animation, uh, that's a fashion television and Saturday night's main event. More perhaps more famously. Right.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Okay. Well, we, yes, of course. Uh, also a fashion television, uh,
Starting point is 01:57:21 where you could possibly on, on television, you can see possibly a nipple at 1 p.m. Okay? There wasn't a lot of options. Got some commentary from the late Karl Lagerfeld and Jeannie Becker, of course. Jeannie fucking Becker. By the way, have you ever had Glenn Baxter on your show?
Starting point is 01:57:40 No, I should. I need Glenn Baxter on my show. What about Lance Chilton? No. Wait, do you guys know Down with Webster? Yes. What school did they come from? Because that's the school I'm thinking of. Who's calling you there?
Starting point is 01:57:55 It's Down with Webster right now. Down with Webster went to the school of Hard Knocks, I believe. They went to Glenn Ames Senior Public School. I's called they went to glenn ames senior public school i don't know no no i'm talking about like the university that they would have gone to but i'll find out i'm gonna find out the name of that school may have just been humber um okay a lot of people go to humber for a lot of different reasons but yeah where did kevin drew for the
Starting point is 01:58:21 broken social scene went because that was like a topical school of the arts that's where they all met they all met up there because emily haynes was there from metric and i believe uh one two three four who's that again uh fight no because she's from like calgary by the east coast or something a lot of these people were talking about you're right a lot of the broken social scene went to uh topical school of the arts. You've had Avery Haynes on, right? Yes, I have. Yes. In fact, me and Michael Landsberg were chatting about her because she has that white streak in the front of her hair like
Starting point is 01:58:51 Michael. Yeah. She's cool. I like her. Yeah, yeah. She's cool. So here's another jam from Cam Gordon to conclude his five one-hit wonders from Toronto. Just like random, like Avery Haynes, she's cool.
Starting point is 01:59:09 She is cool. I like her. Her sister's cool too. One more glass I think this would be a good name that tune for Stu, so he can remember this one. This is perhaps the most obscure. Do you want to wait for the chorus? Yeah. Do you want to wait for the chorus? Yeah It's your only chance, don't pretend romance Keep the new promise you made So this is Four Squirrels. No, this is, I guess we'll just say it's a project called Victor,
Starting point is 02:00:19 which was really a solo album by Russia's Alex Lifeson. Sort of a one-and-done affair that came out in the mid-90s. And the vocals you're hearing is none other than Edwin. Edwin, yeah. I wanted to guess. Yeah, by Mother Earth. To be honest, I don't know. I assume these are just songs that Alex Lifeson had saved up that have perhaps more of a modern rock feel,
Starting point is 02:00:45 and he put together... Again, I feel like this is sort of a studio project. It didn't go under his own name. Victor brought in Edwin to sing about half the songs on, again, the single album that he released under Victor. A few other interesting artists appear on this album. Somebody who maybe could have been a fit here, Del Bello.
Starting point is 02:01:04 You guys remember you know that's uh the sister-in-law of danny elwell really okay lisa del bello and uh that's a fun fact yeah and i only know that because uh you know i had uh danny on the show but uh let's tango is the one hit you're thinking of yeah Yeah, and I feel like plus a couple other minor hits, but some Juno Award fodder there. Probably Dalbello and Luba probably went head-to-head a lot
Starting point is 02:01:34 in Juno Awards. Anyway, also on this album, released as Victor, Les Claypool appeared, Primus. I remember when this came out, seeing it on MuchMusic and hearing it a bit on Edge 102 and being really confused because certainly in the mid-90s,
Starting point is 02:01:51 if you were into grunge and alternative rock, there were perhaps a few less cool bands than Rush. I think people sort of came around to Rush and how cool or not cool they were. But yeah, this album was... I just remember being sort of confused around to Rush and how cool or not cool they were. But yeah, this album was... I just remember being sort of confused when this came out. Because again, Alex Lifeson was not someone you expected to be here on CFNY. In spite of the song Spirit of Radio being inspired by CFNY.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Like Rush is just... They're just kind of their own category. They really are. As we discussed, you'd hear the Catherine Wheel doing... this is a jam we played on a previous pandemic friday but you hear that but you wouldn't hear rush on cf and y but i just want to say you can hear in the opening you can hear right away this is either from somebody in rush or rush inspired like it has that rush sound to it so but i know i gotta confess something if i knew this song i forgot i knew it very quickly i i didn't remember this song until you sent it to me so i don't know like and i i feel like this
Starting point is 02:02:51 album i'm not sure is that well received i i seem to remember seeing this cd used a lot if you go into like vortex records a lot of you were in la uh la la music yeah or like if you're down at uh amoeba records you know just piles of this besides sort of rem monster and like the second spin doctors album uh sort of yeah i'm not i'm not sure there was high demand for a second victor album which never saw the light of day but uh yeah i mean stew do you remember this at all? No, you've been quiet. I think the silence is very telling. Maybe this wasn't much of a hit.
Starting point is 02:03:31 I don't. If I do remember it, it's like a real fizzled memory. Yeah, like this. I would say if this made the Thursday 30, it would have probably peaked at like 26. Yeah, I don't know if Edwin had that point. I don't know if they were jamming this one over at Humber.
Starting point is 02:03:49 By the way, there's a Humber campus I could walk to in five minutes. And I think that there's a music program there that's like some legendary music program. I don't think so. I might be wrong. I'm sure someone will correct me. I could bike in five minutes to Etobicoke School of the Arts, which is what I think you're thinking of.
Starting point is 02:04:06 But I just got a quick little fun little fact is that you're playing this. It's like guest singers on an Alex Lifeson project where he goes by a different name, and he goes by the name Victor. Is that correct, Victor? Yeah. Okay. It makes me think of Daniel Victor. I don't know if you guys know the name Daniel Victor, but he had this.
Starting point is 02:04:23 I know Victor Newman or Victor Borga. I was invited to like a train party. Anyway, Victor Newman. I don't know if you guys know the name Daniel Victor, but he had this... I know Victor Newman or Victor Borga. I was invited to a train party. Anyway, Victor Newman. I got an invitation. Ludwig Borga? What's a train party? In Uxbridge, there's some train thing going on in Uxbridge and their special guest was Victor Newman.
Starting point is 02:04:39 As an influencer, I was invited to have lunch with Victor Newman. Sorry, what's a train? Not to be confused with a key party like what Cam has. I was invited to have a lunch with Victor Newman. Sorry, what's a train? Not to be confused with a key party like what Cam has. I was going to say a train. Is this like a human centipede type deal? What's a train? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:04:54 A train. Do you know what a train is? A runaway train by, for example, Soul Asylum. Which is not a one-hit winner. The band Train, Dropsy Jupiter. So to finish my thought, though, on Daniel Victor. Daniel Victor had a project called Never Ending White Lights. Surely you guys remember Never Ending White Lights.
Starting point is 02:05:12 And for some reason, they had guest singers. But I think for some reason, Victor reminds me of David Victor's Never Ending White Lights. Mike, I had the exact same thought. Also the band Delirium. If you remember them, who would bring in guest vocalist Sarah McLachlan and other people. Right. Or Mike and the Mechanics. Mike and the Mechanics.
Starting point is 02:05:32 You never knew who was going to be singing that Mike and the Mechanics jam. We're just like rapid fire, like throwing out shit. Cam is just going to have to like, his list is going to be 10,000 long of mentions this week. It's going to be brutal. It's got to be like a tweet thread here. Well, as long as Luba was mentioned, that's all that matters. Oh shit, I forgot her. Then let me just take a moment to say, I did hear this week
Starting point is 02:05:56 some new music from Mishy Mee and it kicks ass. I think Mishy Mee is fantastic and I love her. So now you can put Mishy Mee in a tweet. Almost, almost. I think maybe cooler. Okay, here is... I really love her. So now you can put Mishimi in a tweet. Almost. I think maybe cooler. Okay. Here is. I really love that Sharon,
Starting point is 02:06:08 Lois and Bram is included in, cause I did mention them. Oh yeah. They were, they were like second. There's only two. Somebody, I can't remember which one you,
Starting point is 02:06:15 maybe you remember which one passed away. Sharon, Lois. I think it's just Sharon and Bram now. By the way, I bumped into the two of them backstage at a BNN, of all places. I was there for work, and they just walked in, and it sort of blew my mind. Former home of FOTM Looskieses.
Starting point is 02:06:35 That's right. Yeah, this was recently, too. This was maybe a year ago. It was awesome. I consider you two. It's amazing. I always forget. You two are old high school buddies.
Starting point is 02:06:45 And now I spend more time with you. First of all, I see and then way more time with you than I do with my own brothers. So I consider you guys more than just a friend at this point. Have you ever met a girl that you tried to date? But a year to make love, she wanted you to wait. Let me tell you a story of my situation. I was talking to this girl from the U.S. nation. The way that I met her was on tour at a concert.
Starting point is 02:07:10 She had long hair and a short miniskirt. I just got on stage dripping porn with sweat. I was walking through the crowd, and guess who I met? I whispered in her ear, come to the picture booth so I can ask you to come and see her. I asked her her name. She said, blah, blah, blah. Oh, sorry. I thought that was signed for me to fade it down. My apologies. She said I wasn, I don't. I only have a friend. Come on. I'm not even going for it. Here's what I'm going to
Starting point is 02:07:51 say. You, you got what I need. But you say he just a friend. And you say he just a friend Oh baby you Got what I need There's something like Overly charming about this song Just a friend Biz Markie This is my final selection Another just fun loving sort of song A fun loving sort of guy
Starting point is 02:08:22 I mean Biz Mark he obviously is a huge pioneer in the hip-hop world who is known for a lot more than just a friend but this is his commercial uh big one hit uh commercially uh but you know a beatboxer a producer a prolific writer a prolific uh a prolific figure in the in in the growth and, and of hip hop and the evolution of hip hop from the, uh, you know, uh, grandmaster flash days into the, uh, modern days, Biz Marquis, one of those bridges that doesn't get a lot of credit, but, uh, you know, nobody beats the biz. He is, uh, you know, a fun loving dude. I think he's also involved if I'm not mistaken in children's programming as well
Starting point is 02:09:07 and you know Scott LaRock whatever that show was was he not on that I was going to say Animaniacs it was like a show that was like big 10 years ago yeah and it was right right that's what I was talking about
Starting point is 02:09:23 I forget the name of that show so google it if you can but he shows up on like uh you if you i'm a big check your head guy from the beastie boys and you get some uh some biz on there too but um yeah so you know i think as much like don't worry be happy uh this song sort of featured like a charming sort of course that everybody sort of sang along and you didn't have to be a good singer to sort of sing along with it. The song went to number one on several charts. Biz Marquis, Just a Friend, reached number nine on the Billboard Hot 100. September 89.
Starting point is 02:10:02 And, you know, I have friends and that's a fact Agnes, Agatha, Jermaine and Jack lots of lines that I just sort of remember without even thinking about them I have three
Starting point is 02:10:12 rapid fire comments one the show was Yo Gabba Gabba Yo Gabba Gabba right Yo Gabba Gabba two I almost feel like Biz Markie
Starting point is 02:10:19 for Canadians might be like Tom Cochran is to Americans does it feel like Canadians might think he's a one-hit wonder. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:10:26 He was much bigger on the hip-hop scene than he's given credit for. Nobody beats the biz and make music with your mouth and all that. Do you guys remember this, Vapors, before we get your third point? Do you remember this song? Yeah. But not a hit, but yes. song every single weekend to get his beeper number she be begging please dying for the
Starting point is 02:10:45 yeah but not a hit but yes this is a biz marquis song so vapors reminds me of this is more of a traditional hip-hop song and not like a pop sort of crossover anthem great great chorus like a young mc or whatever yeah right you know the as you know I always like to sort of blow people's minds with my last election and that's sort of what I do for a living is I blow minds so if you don't mind Mike do you mind
Starting point is 02:11:15 oh baby you you got what I need you got what I need. You got everything I need. You're like medicine to me. Oh, baby. So Jeremy wants to know, Jeremy writes in and says, is this a sample? Is this a cover? I feel like it's very similar to the What a Man, Salt-N-Pepa thing where, you know,
Starting point is 02:11:50 Biz Markie took this song and reconfigured words and wasn't sued like Eddie Vedder was. And, you know, he made it his own. But a lot of people probably don't even realize that Just a Friend is derived from this original song from the 60s, which is by a gentleman by the name of Freddie Scott that had a string of R&B hits in the 60s. And this was one of them. You got what I need.
Starting point is 02:12:19 Obviously, you say He's Just a Friend was Biz Markie's additional lyric. It is not from the original. And, Stu, that's my third point, and this is like kismet here. Incredibly, there's overlap with what you just said in terms of the What a Man sample. My third point was going to be I had just written about Biz Marquis and my big artist playing weird venues in Toronto blog post I mentioned earlier because in 2014,
Starting point is 02:12:46 Bismarck, he played the after party, the Joe Carter classic golf tournament at the Shangri-La hotel. It was in 2014. And guess who he played with? Wow. Documented on my blog, just published yesterday.
Starting point is 02:13:02 And that's a show that we should have gone to. Oh my, well, Joe Carter, like you said, Snoop Dogg's played, like John Legend's played, like all sorts of big names. Do you have to be invited? Isn't it like by invitation only? Those things? I think you can buy
Starting point is 02:13:15 tickets to it. I remember Cam and I went to an early incarnation of a Joe Carter classic with my grandfather. We went to like a Blue Jays luncheon. I think it was like the Blue Jays fan club. And we got Joe Carter classic. Like, with my grandfather, we went to, like, a Blue Jays luncheon. I think it was, like, the Blue Jays fan club. And we got Joe Carter's autograph.
Starting point is 02:13:30 Wasn't there, like, a big stampede? Like, it's almost like... Yes. It's like you can't go up to get autographs. Like, everyone is waiting and then the second
Starting point is 02:13:37 they did it, there was, like, the Who concert where, like, people got trampled to death. Oh, no. Yeah. But, like, Harvey Trippett.
Starting point is 02:13:43 You remember Harvey Trippett was the president of the Fin? That so funny i like my grandfather used to be with me and cam a lot for some reason i remember uh there was a card show there was a card show that cam and i cam and i used to set up at card shows uh like selling baseball cards and hockey cards at our we had our own little table i don't know if cam ever pitched in for that or he just was there as an employee like helping me sound like I was just like free child. But I remember my grandfather also got Marquise Grissom signing autographs at one of those card shows. And somehow we ended up with like 20 signed Marquise Grissom bats and balls and a bunch of shit.
Starting point is 02:14:18 Yeah, just like a pile of Marquise Grissom shit. He was pretty good. I thought he was a likable teenager. Yeah. By the way, is this grandfather you're referring to now, is that the brother of Aunt Sandy? Brother-in-law of Aunt Sandy. Okay, gotcha. He was married to Sandy's sister. I'm just sketching out the family tree here.
Starting point is 02:14:36 I want to make sure I got a note on that one. I love that jam. And then when I hear that Biz Marquis song, it brings me nothing but joy, like good memories. That's just a a fun jam you picked a lot of fun jams today stew and it's a rap that like like i said it's like even for those of us of a certain age that have aged like a certain type of wine um you hear that biz marquee song for the first time in 20 years lyrics are just going to come back to you like Like Young MC. Like Young MC. Yes.
Starting point is 02:15:06 You know, similar kind of. Young MC also played one of the Joe Carter Gulf Termin after parties. Okay. Appearing now at completelyignored.com. This is amazing how it's all coming together. Young MC, I believe he, on a national Canadian tour, I believe he had opening for him
Starting point is 02:15:23 a very young Maestro Fresh Wes. Back in the day, I believe he had opening for him, a very young maestro, fresh West back in the day, I believe. And, uh, on that note real quick is that, um, there was a remix of a song for the, do you guys remember a movie called coop DeVille?
Starting point is 02:15:37 Anyway. Okay. So a part of the great movie, by the way, I really liked it. I think Alan Arkin is the father. It was a great movie. there's a theme in this.
Starting point is 02:15:47 What is the song? Louis Louis. What's Louis Louis really about? This is a common theme in the movie. And the Louis Louis 12-inch rap remix by Maestro Fresh West. I purchased it. What's that place at college or Wellesley and Young? Soundscape or something?
Starting point is 02:16:03 Anyways, where I used to go and buy the the uh twelving house of lords i did go there because i used to live at charles street and young and i used to get my hair cut at house of lords uh near brass rail right yeah right across the street yeah and the uptown theater was there i've gone now but the uptown theater was like underneath my balcony there anyway wait cam where's? It was the first strip club I ever went to in my life was with Kim. And it was like, I'm like, that's area.
Starting point is 02:16:30 And this lady came and sat with Kim and was like, Kim didn't want to tip her. And she's like, come on, baby. I got to buy eggs. There's something like that. I'm going to plead the fifth on that.
Starting point is 02:16:43 That's why I don't like strip clubs. It's sad. It's sad. No. Yeah, but Avery Haynes, let's get back to it. Let's kick out my final jam and let's get the hell out of here. I've been aiming, I've been trying to get these episodes to two hours strong, and I've been failing miserably, just like I failed.
Starting point is 02:16:58 I've got a hard stop. Come on. You do remember what I'm talking about, right? Stu, I think you're going to dig my final jam, brother. Are you ready? Yeah. Ah, there he is. Daddy.
Starting point is 02:17:15 The daddy of the rumble. You finally got it in. You could be the world, you could be my mind Just as long as my baby's safe from harm Tonight, you could be the world, you could be my mind Just as long as my baby's safe from harm Now follow me, I went to a dance Don't buy chest, I live with me spouse And my life steal and droop Be road block sound, just a mashup
Starting point is 02:17:48 The party pair, sexy gal in a skirt I wind them a day No people did a pose of them jewelry Outfit, track suit, drop a fax And ballet, they dance In a Rambo quad, that's a tree Now me just a want me red stripe and feel I hear me just a want my car
Starting point is 02:18:03 Now then I got a touch me, I say wait Are you the rocker, muffin, rumble, MC Oh, man. Stu, if you remember the first time we met, which was not nearly as long ago as the first time you met Cam, but you came over here because Cam said, I got to meet this guy named Stu Stone. And I said, oh, Cam, I trust your judgment. Let me meet this guy named stew stone and i said oh cam i trust your judgment let me meet this stew stone and then the rest is history but we uh bonded i think we bonded sort of over this song yeah and i believe cam was the one who pointed out that whole you
Starting point is 02:18:36 could feed my mind that's a massive attack song yeah like oh really yeah this gets it's the song safe from harm from the first Massive Attack. Like, it's amazing this song was, like, a top 40 hit. Like, it's fucking great, but it just... I don't think you hear songs like this on... Well, also, you know, there was an era that might have not... I don't... It wasn't just, like, a Toronto-centric thing,
Starting point is 02:19:00 but, like, reggae music was huge for a good stretch where you had you know mad cobra and you had shabba ranks and like all of you and uh sim sima who got the keys to my bima a lot of big reggae sort of songs and in snow dare i say in former but uh you know you had a lot like Ice Cube Wicked there was a lot of reggae influenced stuff going on during that era
Starting point is 02:19:30 and this was this was Daddy Rumble or Rumble however I think it was Rumble MC I think
Starting point is 02:19:37 Rumble MC but he comes up often on Toronto Mike's because whenever I have somebody on here like a DJ
Starting point is 02:19:42 Ron Nelson or a Kish or a Maestro or whatever or Mishy Me or whatever I always somebody on here like a DJ Ron Nelson or a Kish or a Maestro or whatever or Mishy Me or whatever, I always ask the question, like, where the hell is Rumble? Because I want him on Toronto Mic'd. And nobody knows where Rumble is. So this is a broadcast,
Starting point is 02:19:55 a shout out. If somebody can put me in touch with Rumble, I would like Rumble to make his Toronto Mic'd debut because I love this version of this song. I love it and the whole Booyaka Booyaka. I know he had another single called Booyaka Booyaka which I also quite liked but this was the Rumble hit.
Starting point is 02:20:12 One hit wonder. Local and honestly it kicks ass. And I'm going to play the Massive Attack song because we'll close here. I didn't even know that Massive Attack I didn't even know that there was something in there. So let's see how elegant I am with the ones and twos here.
Starting point is 02:20:36 It's a video, so I may have to fast forward. Oh! That's a complete sample well you get to hear wait for it as they say yeah cuz even the drums are sampled from the massive attack song I gotta say, like, another album that's just so timeless. Like, this album's, like, close to 30 years old now. Like, the first Massive. It's like, what a fucking great album. Of course, you know the big urban legend behind Massive Attack.
Starting point is 02:21:20 Oh, I know. You're familiar with that, right? Banksy. Banksy. Yeah. Allegedly. Yeah. You're familiar with that, right? Banksy.
Starting point is 02:21:23 Yeah, allegedly. I did not know about this connection until here. I was 10 years old when I discovered this. You should pay attention to Cam because he heard our episode together, which is a few years ago now, I think. I don't know, a couple of years ago. And then, uh,
Starting point is 02:21:45 we talked about this rumble safe. Cause we both have such great memories of it and both loved it. And then cams like, you know, that's a sample of this, uh, massive attack song. And that's when I learned.
Starting point is 02:21:56 So you caught up to me now. This seems like something 1236 would bring up too, but I will say with, like, it's so rare in the age we live in just for an artist like that who had like a really big hit to completely just fall off the face of the map completely like where the fuck is rumble right where the fuck is rumble like this seems like this could be like a like a cbc documentary or something because this guy like that was that song was a big deal something
Starting point is 02:22:23 it's a season a season of someone knows something where is rumble big deal. It's a season of Someone Knows Something. Where is Rumble? A lot of these people worked with DJ Ron Nelson worked closely with Rumble back in the day. No one knows. What's his government name? Daddy Rumble.
Starting point is 02:22:40 Isn't it Rumble MC? I'm pretty sure. Rumble. Gents, loved it every friday i look forward to these uh thanks for doing this one day we'll invest in and i think we should chip in together cam and have a like a proper usb microphone sent to stew's uh condo there i would like it done before next friday so let's get on that, guys. Because I did it for Hebsey and I did it for Ben Mergey and I would do it for you because people want to
Starting point is 02:23:10 hear you. But you were fantastic. You win again. Cam, you were great as always. And thanks for doing this, man. No problem. Thank you. And everybody stay positive and happy Father's Day and happy Single Mother's Day for those single mothers that had to step in for the deadbeat dads.
Starting point is 02:23:26 Have a great weekend and stay safe. Wear masks, all that shit. And next Friday, Stu, we're going to need an anti-Sandy update. Hopefully I'll have one for you. And it's also Cam's selection next week, too. So we'll see what obscure category we're going to have. The more obscure, the better, I say. Let's make it really.
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