Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Sports Jams: Toronto Mike'd #628
Episode Date: April 24, 2020Mike kicks out songs that reference sports with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon....
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for this pandemic
Friday is Stu Stone
and Cam Gordon
hello
I'm Stu
and I'm Cam
and I'm Stu
let me tell you something Mike
brother you know this is like the sixth and I'm Stu. Let me tell you something, Mike. Brother.
You know, this is like the
sixth
or fifth time in a week in a row
we've been on the show.
At least the fifth, at least.
You understand that's like five weeks
we've been shut down. Time is going
by so fast.
It feels like I was just talking to you guys
yesterday. I know. I think just talking to you guys yesterday.
I know.
I think it's the opposite, frankly.
I don't know.
I've been eating a lot of Palma pasta.
Eating a lot of Palma pasta, drinking a lot of beer,
plastering stickeru.com stickers everywhere.
But here's the big question,
because this is the first episode we've recorded
since a new sponsor
joined the fray. And this question
is not only for you, Cam, and for
you, Stu, but I want to introduce that
there are two FOTMs.
How do we say, sitting in the waiting room?
Like, they're here, but they're
primarily muted. But
I want to say hi to them. Firstly,
of course, Ian, not
Tim. Okay, I know Stu thinks your name is Tim. But Ian Service, say hi to them. Firstly, of course, Ian, not Tim.
Okay, I know Stu thinks your name is Tim.
But Ian Service, say hi.
Good to see you, Tim.
Looking good, Tim Dog.
Hello, Ian.
Good day.
Happy Friday.
Happy Friday to you, sir.
Today, Ian wearing a red shirt to clash with his pink walls.
Yep, yep.
But he's still going to wear a sweater because it's cold down here,
despite all the insulation. Despite all the insulation. You're doing a terrible job over there. Yep. Yep. But I still got to wear a sweater because it's cold down here, despite all the insulation.
Despite all the insulation.
You're doing a terrible job over there.
Yep.
It's cold down in my basement, but here I am in a t-shirt.
Actually, I'm wearing a Twitter t-shirt, but we'll talk about that.
I want to say hi to somebody who's joining us for the first time.
She begged me for the Zoom URL and she pleaded with me.
I said, no, no, this is an exclusive event.
She said, please, please, please.
And I'm a softie at heart.
I'm a very nice guy.
And I said, here you go.
Hello to FOTM.
Lieve Fumka.
What?
Lieve Fumka.
Fumka.
Lieve Fumka.
Yes.
Hi, everyone.
Thank you for allowing me in.
I'm a softie, like I said.
But you know what? Juan is not allowed on.
So Juan is in your isolation
pod and he can't
get the Zoom URL.
And to clarify, that's Juan Guzman
is actually waiting in the wings
just hanging out.
I love Guzman.
That's not Juan Benitez.
Don't be fucking ridiculous. Just stop it. So thanks for joining just hanging out. I love Guzman. That's not Juan Beniquez.
Don't be fucking ridiculous. Just stop it.
So thanks for joining us,
Levi Fumka. And anytime,
you can say anything you need to throughout the episode. Like Ian, you can as
well, but of course, this is the Cam Gordon
and Stu Stone.
Mr. Wonderful
Paul Orndorff?
I saw, who did I see?
Was it Paul Orndorff? I saw, who did I see? Was it Paul Orndorff played,
was against Hulk Hogan at the main event there,
the Hulkamania at the exhibition stadium.
Is that the only time you ever went
to a wrestling show in your life?
Because that seems to be the one wrestling memory
you draw upon.
No, but I've been in my life less than five.
Every other event I went to was at Maple Leaf Gardens.
Do you remember any of the guys that were at those shows?
It just seems like that main event, what was it called, the main event I went to was at Maple Leaf Gardens. Do you remember any of the guys that were at those shows? It just seems like that main event, what was it called?
The main event?
The big event. Hulkamania.
That one's in my head because it
seemed like it was going to a
Stanley Cup final. It felt
big because it was a really big card
and it just felt like that was a special
event where the others were just regular cards.
That was before.
I think they just had WrestleMania at that point.
Like they didn't have survivor series and summer,
the summer slam,
um,
other,
I'm trying to think what the other events are Royal rumble,
but it was a big deal to me.
And I was like,
I don't know,
12 or 13.
I don't know.
It just,
that was a big one.
So that's why I referenced it a lot.
Thank you.
So it's my show.
It's my fucking show. I can reference it as much
as I want. Hey, I just want
to make sure that the fans know that that's your
wrestling go-to reference. Yeah, it is.
I got the Andre
the Giant mug behind me because he was
wearing the mask as one of the
machines.
But we all knew it was him.
From Japan.
Right.
How's your wrist healing up there
Ace
who is it
Orton who's the guy with the cast in wrestling
Cowboy Bob Orton
Cowboy
Cowboy Bob Ace
Orton Jr
right okay
second generation star his son is a wrestler as well Randy Orton Jr. Right. Second generation star.
His son is a wrestler as well, Randy Orton.
Yeah.
The RKO.
Wow.
Okay, so to answer the risk question real quick,
and then I got to get to the garbage date before we forget,
but I got an x-ray on Wednesday morning.
That's two mornings ago.
And they said it was healing well,
and it wasn't displaced, and they were happy.
So two more weeks in this cast, this wonderful $70 fiberglass cast,
and then I'm going to get some kind of wrist brace.
So I think in two weeks, if it doesn't hurt like hell,
I might try to go for a little bike ride.
Amazing.
Wow, just getting right back.
No metaphor needed.
Getting literally back up on the bike.
And that ties in nicely with Cam Gordon's t-shirt,
which we'll address in a moment.
But I want to ask you all putting you on the spot.
Have you gone to garbage day.com slash Toronto Mike and signed up for the
weekly reminders to help the show?
Like tell us one by one.
I want to hear your voices.
Have you done so yet?
No.
But I live in a condo, so
garbage day is every day for me.
I live in a condo
and I still did it just because
of Mike.
Thank you, because it helps the show.
Exactly.
I feel like we help the show plenty,
so she's got to do
a little bit more than us.
We're doing our part.
Ian Service,
have you gone to
garbageday.com
slash Toronto Mike
and signed up yet?
I haven't had a chance.
Can you explain to us
since like three out of four,
since 75% of the people in here
didn't do it,
why don't you explain to us
what it is?
Well,
essentially, Garbage Day, and again, you in a condo, I'm not sure, but you should do it. Why don't you explain to us what it is? Well, essentially garbage day.
And again, you in a condo, I'm not sure,
but you should do it anyway, like Lieve Fumpke.
Garbage day ends the guesswork
related to the collection of waste and recycling.
So you don't have to, you subscribe,
you don't got to worry about missing a collection
or trying to figure out what bin to put out.
Are they doing the yard waste this week?
Is this the Christmas tree pickup day?
Have they switched it up due to COVID-19?
All the guesswork's out of it.
You get an elegant, you can do text or through the app.
It's an easy way to keep up to date with all the curbside activity
from garbage to recycling to the green bin to the Christmas tree to the yard waste.
So how does it help you, though?
Other than telling you when your garbage is getting picked up.
Well, that's the primary purpose of the app.
No, no, I mean, how does it help your show, I'm asking?
Like, do they give you a dollar for every click or something?
Yeah, they sponsor the show, Stu.
You don't know how this works? Well, that's huge.
I didn't know that.
That's huge.
Now that I know that, I will do that.
And Mike, to clarify, they'll pick up things like trays
from Eden
lasagnas from Palma Pasta maybe
Camp Ternasol pamphlets
will they pick up these items?
I'm glad you mentioned Camp Ternasol because the last two
years they've been proud sponsors of the
program and of course like many many
things they're on hold
you know what I mean? Camps
are one of the many things that have
been put on hold
during this terrible pandemic.
It's a real concern. My daughter is supposed
to go to theater camp for the second
overnight camp.
Oh yeah, that's not happening.
She does too.
I'm not holding my breath on either of those, I hate to say.
I think it's going to be a long summer.
Well, you know, I might be teaching an acting
camp over Zoom
this summer for your kid. Is that true?
I just made it up right now,
but it sounds like there's a need for it. Well, you can
sponsor the program in lieu of Camp
Ternus, so you could take the spot. I might launch a Zoom
program, brought to you hopefully
by Garbage.com, where you can
see when the garbage is getting picked up
curbside and help out shows like this. i uh introduce the because we haven't yet announced what the
theme is of this week's uh pandemic friday jam kicking uh i have the perfect jam that
kind of helps us introduce it and i'm hoping stew sings along to this.
Is this John Cherry?
Let's go.
He can shoot.
He can score.
John Cherry rap?
Is it?
It's BKS.
Is that the...
Which was like Chris Shepard's group,
was it not?
Like that's on Astroplane
or that's like a Jonathan Richman song.
Astroglide.
So not like personal lubricants.
Chris Shepard, Pirate Radio, AstroGlide.
Party people.
Hello, Chris Shepard here on Pirate Radio.
All right, Zai.
This is the new Don Cherry.
Last week I heard Stu drop a line from this jam.
He can shoot.
He can score.
Number four, Bobby Orr.
Let's go.
Is that coming up? Is that the next verse? I think it is. I think so. Number four, Bobby Orr. Let's go. Is that coming up? Is that the next
verse? I think it is. I think so.
The read version.
No, no. It's in this one. We can hear that.
A little more Don and basically
then we'll let Cam.
I've decided Cam is the smart one here.
He gets to tell us a theme every week.
Even though I chose this theme and
you could tell me at the end of this episode
if it was a good one or not.
It could go either way.
Quite the beat here, though.
Holy smokes.
Where are you, Donny boy?
Did much music ever play this as a standalone video?
Do we know?
I have to call in...
Call somebody to find out.
I'm going to say no to that.
Okay, yeah. Oh, what a pop.
Oh, how she loves the Stanley Cup.
Hockey man is what I am.
Let's go.
Listen, listen to what I say.
Play that game the Canadian way.
Hockey man is what I am.
Let's go.
So, you know, even though he's dancing
over the most Euro trash dance music I've ever heard,
he's still telling you to play hockey the Canadian way.
He didn't say anything about music.
Well, it's from the Chris Shepard pirate radio sessions or whatnot here.
Chris Shepard, the new Don Cherry.
Let's go.
Often imitated, never duplicated. Chris Shepard pirate radio. Let's go. Often imitated, never duplicated.
So.
Pirate radio.
Let's go.
So can't.
Here's what I am.
You know, he's very ahead of his time, Cherry, because now all the rappers say let's go.
That's like a major, you know, Miriam knows what I'm talking about.
Oh, you mean leave a thump.
Leave a thump. knows what I'm talking about. Oh, Lieve Fumka, you mean? Lieve Fumka? Lieve Fumka, she knows what's up
because every single time
these rappers now are saying,
let's go.
The last jam, so Lieve Fumka,
fun fact, she kicked out a jam.
I do these FOTM,
Kick Out the Jam series.
Ian's done it.
You guys should do it actually,
Stu and Cam.
But Lieve Fumka's done it twice.
But the second time,
first time she did it,
maybe the second time?
Yeah, second time.
She kicked out a Pitbull jam. She's a big Pitbull fan. I can see Pitbull going, let's go. Famke's done it twice. But the second time, first time she did it, maybe the second time. Yeah, second time.
She kicked out a Pitbull jam.
She's a big Pitbull fan.
I can see Pitbull going,
let's go.
Yeah.
Yeah, Dalai.
She looks like a Pitbull fan.
I can see that.
Yeah.
She likes it a little spicier. A little spicier.
Mr. Worldwide.
Mr. 305.
Yeah.
Taking the negative to positive with that man
my dad actually saw
Pitbull live
in like an airport
you may recall he played at the
closing ceremonies for
games sure did my dad said
you know this mad dog I'm quite
he was quite good
that's such a dad thing to say
and he called Kanye West
Kane West.
You know, that's what initially he was
called Kane West before he was
Kanye West. Oh, before they shot him,
right? Because he got shot, right?
He's the one who got shot, Kanye. No, 50 Cent
got shot. Oh, 50 Cent.
Are you sure? Did Kanye get shot? Kanye got in a car
accident. Car accident, right.
He had the wire like on his
jaw like he broke his jaw because he had a song called the wire yeah through the wire through
the wire sampling not covering sampling chaka khan's through the wire uh chaka khan's into
the fire into the fire right not to be mistaken for sarah mclaughlin's Into the Fire. Which is also not a cover.
Fun fucking fact there.
Cam. Cam working blue this Friday.
I realized we
had done several episodes every Friday without
reminding people who you are. I
assume now that if you're listening to the
Cam and Stu show that
you sort of have the baseline
premise that you've heard Cam and Stu on Toronto Mic'd in have the baseline premise that you've heard
Cam and Stu on Toronto Mike in the past.
Like I've been thinking that's my assumption.
Then I realized why am I making that assumption?
Somebody might be listening to today's episode and be hearing Stu and Cam for
the first time.
And that person or those people will be like,
uh,
who the hell are Stu and Cam?
Are they just buddies of Mike or whatever?
So let's just remind people who you are.
We'll start with you, Stu, because I'm going to go to Cam last so he can introduce this week's episode.
Stu, who the hell are you?
I'm Stu.
I was on a show called The Edison Twins, which most of you know.
It was about these two twins that would try to solve sort of math and science problems by using...
Wait, wait, wait.
You weren't on the Edison Twins.
I was.
Oh, but just one episode?
More than you were on.
So I was on the Edison Twins, if you would allow me to finish.
It's true.
You know, I think I had a scene down by the river.
They were looking for something down by the river.
I was there.
I think that was every episode. I had a few, we had a little couple of exchanges and afterwards the director said I did
a fine job. So that's me. And I'm happy to be here. And I'm a friend of Mike's. A friend that
I met through Cam Gordon, who is here today. And for those of you who don't know, Cam and I grew up together. We went to high school and Cam was always at least a foot and a half
taller than me. Always. Yeah, you guys look funny together, but I need to do a better job of telling
people who you are. You directed and star in the Netflix documentary, Jack of All Trades.
documentary uh jack of all trades that's also true uh it's not edison twins but it is pretty good also and uh it is available on uh on uh on netflix for a couple more months at least so if
you haven't watched it yet you better uh you better get on it so when you're waiting for new episodes
of the last dance to drop so you caught up on the last dance and you got to wait a week for two more episodes. That's plenty of time
to enjoy
this wonderful documentary
Jack of All Trades, which
not only stars FOTM
Stu Stone, also FOTM
Mike Wilner.
Whose brother Norm has not seen the movie.
Oh, you heard that episode.
I had the Wilners on. You're right.
And I gave him hell, right?
You did.
Mike literally had my back,
much more than he had my back on this whole Edison twins thing.
But he had my back and was really going in on Norm,
not really letting him off the hook for not watching the movie.
So I did appreciate that, Mike.
You are a true friend.
Thank you.
And thank you, Cam, for introducing me to Stu Stone,
who also was in Donnie Darko
And Magic School Bus
And a whole whack of stuff
The Raccoons
Which was an environmentally friendly series
Ahead of its time
It was an eco-conscious CBC cartoon
That I loved
And the raccoons had faucet noses
Well there was the bad guys
Cedric Sneer Cyril Sneer Yeah had faucet noses. Well, there was the bad guys. That was like the
Cyril Sneer.
Cyril Sneer.
And he always wanted to bulldoze
forestry.
I believe Cyril Sneer's voice
was voiced by the legendary Harvey Atkin
Rest in Peace. Oh, from the
Leon's commercials. Yes.
He had like an army of
evil pigs. Am I imagining imagining that i don't remember
to be honest with you i don't know i was too busy uh on the edison twins no you were too busy
cashing checks right exactly well also in jack of all trades uh speak of twins fun fact you had
one half of the conseco twins i. I did. And not Ozzy.
No, although it may have been Ozzy.
We'll never know.
You'll never know.
Jose Canseco, who's in Jack of All Trades,
he has a twin brother.
Tim, you know that, right?
Jose has a brother named Ozzy.
Maybe Tim is Ian's twin.
And there was a time
when Jose, I think I've told this on the show before,
but Jose was booked to be in a
boxing or MMA fight
and he sent Ozzy instead.
And Ozzy went and fought and no one
knew the difference. Well, you see,
I've seen them many times together
and Ozzy's not as good looking as Jose.
Wow.
He's more of a Jose guy.
I'm more of a Juan of the way there I'm more of a one
guy myself but
yeah right one Guzman
yeah who's living with leave a funk
that's silly that's like when you find
out Morgan Riley is
cohabitating to the pandemic
with Tessa Virtue
that was that was a big reveal although
that was on Instagram live I
believe so we don't we don't talk about that.
So on that note, thank you, Cam, for introducing me to Stu.
I listen back to these episodes and laugh out loud.
And Monica, who spent way too much time with me the past six weeks, thinks I'm crazy.
Who do you think is the better skater, Morgan Riley or Tessa Virtue?
It depends if you're trying to get Pucks deep in the corner.
It all depends what you're doing.
I would say it depends.
But speaking of depends...
Sponsor of the show.
He's wearing depends.
Future sponsor.
I hope you're all wearing depends because this episode
might go a while.
It's a long episode for sure.
Cam Gordon, today I wear, and no one can see me because I'm not live streaming this episode might go a while it's a long episode for sure cam gordon today i wear and no one can
see me because i'm not live streaming this episode uh but you can see me i'm wearing a twitter t-shirt
yeah so then i believe i gave that to you during one of your many visits to this is when we used
to be able to go to the twitter canada office where i've worked for the last five years as the head of communications for
Twitter Canada.
What's your formal title?
Hell of a communicator, by the way.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, I mean, that's my full title.
You may have caught me on local TV.
I've been on CP24, on Global Morning Live with my good personal friend, Jennifer Valentine,
who many of you know
from her days at Breakfast Television
amongst elsewhere.
All the greats.
Wake up, Winnipeg.
I don't know if I've ever been on TV.
I've been on TV in Calgary.
Breakfast Television in Calgary,
I believe.
Oh.
Where Thomas Sloan used to work.
I've been on a morning show in Calgary
a few times.
Relax, Regina. I've know it's the most important morning show in Calgary I've been a few times. Relax, Regina.
I've seen you on a bunch of regional sort of shows.
I get around.
I get around.
Relax, Regina.
Relax, Regina.
Double bar.
Has juggernaut ratings.
I think every other person in Saskatchewan watches Relax, Regina.
But yeah, you're a director of communication at Twitter Canada.
I would often bike to your office for the free lunch
because I'll do anything for a free lunch.
And I'm kind of realizing now,
you actually said you gave me this T-shirt.
You charged me $20 for this T-shirt.
Oh, that's not true.
That's not true.
So Cam, tell us now so we can dive into the jams.
What is the theme of this week's jam-kicking episode?
Yeah, so this is another great theme,
and our Lustrous host, Mike, came up with this.
I think it's a good one.
It's a simple theme, very high-concept episode today.
Songs about sports or songs that have, more specifically,
and let's be clear, songs that have a sports theme of some sort see that's
interesting because i felt like i wasn't really clear on those rules like that like now you're
saying like specifics i could have picked all these rap songs that just say a sports person's
name is in the song i'm not saying i did that but i definitely could have done that based on how this explanation
of the rules was never laid out the way that can be said you can get your little fun facts lined
up and try to cover your ass like you do every friday you know you fucked up really bad last
friday like we all know that we all heard the tapes we have the receipts um let's see how you
do this you know if you're you're at about 60 last last week the pretty lowipts. Let's see how you do this. You know, you were at about 60% last week.
The pretty low bar.
So let's see where this goes.
Well, let's start with...
And by the way, no, I'm going to tell the people about the T-shirt you're wearing at the appropriate time.
Oh, and Mike, we obviously don't have anything to the caliber of getting retweeted by on Vogue to discuss
this week,
but I did have a little Twitter interaction with the FOTM master T Tony Young
this week.
Whoa.
Yeah.
And this was about an,
an aborted interview that was supposed to happen in 1999 with master T and
an artist that we're,
we had spoken about recently on a recent episode,
Andy Partridge of XTC, was supposed to be on The Much
Environment. I was looking for something else on the internet.
I found this old transcript of, I guess it was like Master
T. They had interview transcripts from Much in the 90s
and he was supposed to interview Andy Partridge from XTC,
and it got canceled.
But for some reason, there was a transcript on the Much Music website.
I found this via the Wayback Machine,
and while I'm hanging out on the Much Music website,
that's a story for another time, to quote Amy Hams.
I would argue in the FOTM world that the Master T is a bigger deal than En Vogue.
Master T is a legit legend and just seems like one of the good guys.
Like, really.
I think that you are understating Master T's relevance by saying that.
I mean, En Vogue, come on, En Vogue, they're the greatest.
But Master T's, not only was he a television personality,
but he curated all of the jams for us on his compilation
that we've heard many songs from while we've kicked jams over this pandemic
are from Master T's beautiful Much Dance collection.
And he also, yeah, an Extenda mix where he had Roxy.
But I don't know what you heard me say,
but I was saying Master T is a bigger deal than En Vogue.
So I agree with you.
Yeah, absolutely.
Master T is a BFD in my books.
Absolutely.
And a great guy.
He sat here and we had a wonderful conversation.
Good guy.
Is there any more friction between Jeremy Taggart and Stu Stone since we last talked?
I haven't heard from him at all uh he just sort of stopped uh but uh i still listen to
our lady pieces music so technically he's been with me because i'm i listen and i was actually
listening to the lyrics to a song that I used to think, you know,
when you hear a song and then you think it's in,
and the lyrics are actually are not very upbeat and it's an upbeat song,
or it's like a song you thought was always a certain thing.
Hey,
yeah,
sure.
Okay.
So there's an R lady peace song.
That's sort of,
I always thought,
Oh,
this is a really upbeat song.
And I was listening to the words and I was like,
this is actually kind of depressing.
But anyway.
Which song?
What song was that?
It was...
And if I don't make it.
Oh, yeah.
4AM.
4AM, that's the one.
Great song, by the way.
I just didn't realize
that
you know how sad that song is
in concert that's the jam where they
Rain Maida will
stop singing it and
point the mic towards the crowd
and the crowd will sing 4am
sort of like when you see
a national anthem at
a Flames playoff game or something
and the anthem singer lets the crowd bring it home.
4 a.m. is the crowd song.
There was a Matchbox 20 song called, like, 3 a.m.?
It's 3 a.m. I must be lonely.
Yeah.
Like, the best Matchbox 20 jam there is, if you ask me.
Sure.
I don't know that there really is a best Matchbox 20 jam, but sure.
Yeah. I don't want to push you around although you know that would probably i think that's maybe a bit problematic i want to take
you for granted yeah yeah weird thing to say like i want to take you for granted it's like
they were stuck in that semi-sonic world of like we're trying to be kind of rock but we're more maroon 5 and kind of weak ass
like you know like
that guy Rob Thomas I think he's cursed
with like slanted eyebrows where like
he always looks angry
his big hit is the smooth
with
Mexico
Mexico's own Carlos Santana.
I fucking hate that song so much.
And I don't mean Semisonic.
Who am I thinking of?
You're thinking of Dishwalla.
Semisonic at closing time.
You're thinking of the Gin Blossoms.
You're thinking of Spongebob.
You're thinking of Spongebob.
I want something else to get me through this.
Steven Jenkins.
Down the line.
Who sings that song?
Baby.
Third Eye Blind.
Third Eye Blind.
That's what I'm thinking of
because they had a song
called Semisonic or something.
I don't know.
Anyway, let's get to these jams
before I make mistakes.
Today we are counting down
the top five Third Eye Blind songs.
And I dedicate Cam's first jam
to Lieve Femke
because this week
is her birthday.
Or next week.
When's your birthday, Lieve Femke?
One day.
Wow.
Your birthday is one day, but which day
specifically? Monday.
I said Monday. Oh, I thought you said one day.
No. I was like, when's your birthday? One day. Yeah, like the Mamas and the Papas song, Monday, Monday. I said Monday. Oh, I think you said one day. No. I was like, when's your birthday? One day.
Like the Mamas and the Papas song,
Monday, Monday. Was that a
cover, Stu, or how did that work?
I believe it was covered by
Salt
and Pepper, but I'll
have to look into it. But happy birthday, by the
way. Yeah, happy birthday. Thank you.
Happy 21st birthday? Is that what we're looking at this
year? Yep. Good. Good good luck if that's true then i think differently of one because he's been living
with this teenager come on what's going on there okay let's kick him before i get myself more
trouble because the man gave me biking pants um which didn't rip when i crashed and broke my wrist
let's i mean one has always sort of been like the Jerry Lee Lewis of the...
The killer.
...bike universe.
Or Elvis, I guess, when you had Priscilla there.
Okay, let's kick out Cam's first jam.
A little Ric Flair trip?
Sure.
Works related.
I'm kind of surprised that you even know this song, Ken.
Why is that?
I guess that just doesn't seem like it would be a song that you would catch on the way back machine while surfing for XTC interviews with Master T.
Yeah, sure enough.
You surprise me every week, man.
It's a little cool for Cam, I agree.
Now, this is, for those who don't know, 21 Savage.
No, is it?
With him and Offset.
I thought it's Migos.
Offset from Migos.
Okay, I apologize.
So it's 21 Savage, Offset, and Metro Boomin.
Yeah, I feel like this is the most contemporary song
we've ever counted down in this combination of guests.
Because this song is, what, like two years old?
Even one year old?
Okay, so I know that you guys have
alluded to uh i know there's a connection here to sports that i'm missing and i'm sure other
fotms are missing it too so tell us why this song qualifies well rick flair drip and then for the
listeners who don't know and they'd be shocked if any tron mic listeners were not aware or familiar with the work of
Ric Flair, the all-time, perhaps
the greatest world champion of
all time.
Would you agree, Stu?
Like, you're probably more of a
historian, certainly in the
conversation on the Mount Rushmore.
He's on the Mount Rushmore.
No doubt about that.
Yeah, it was Space Mountain,
Ric Flair, founding... Woo! Yeah, it was Space Mountain. Rick Flair.
Founding.
Yeah, like one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time. Speaking of Jerry Lee Lewis, he was influenced by Jerry Lee Lewis's woo.
That's how he got the woo.
Is that true?
Yeah.
Wow.
That's a fun fact.
That's a fun fact.
I appreciate that we start out the sports countdown right away with pro
wrestling listed as a sport.
So that's a man after my heart.
Sports entertainment.
But I think that this song is interesting.
If you watch, you probably won't watch, but there is this podcast on WWE Network, which I know Tim is a subscriber and Cam is a subscriber.
But there's a thing called the Stone Cold.
Stone Cold Steve Austin has a podcast.
And Ric Flair is his guest on the most recent episode.
It's like a pretty long watch, but it's pretty good.
He cries.
It gets emotional.
He tells stories.
He talks about the Ric Flair trip.
Well, I mean, tying it even closer to sports
I mean, in recent years we've seen Ric Flair
show up everywhere
with sports teams, like when the Carolina Hurricanes
you know, because he's
from that area, is he not?
He's from the Carolinas or based there
I don't want to be
a lot of run-ins to dressing rooms
and stuff
I don't want to be a fly in the ointment here.
I don't want to be that guy.
But I would argue this song does not qualify.
Oh.
And the reason I would suggest such is that
professional wrestling of this nature is not a sport.
Okay, well, you're entitled to your opinion.
It's your...
Well, let me hear from somebody else.
Like, okay, Stu,
and again, I know you guys...
In fact, in a moment,
I'm going to read an email I got
from a gentleman named Neil Jenkins,
who absolutely adores
the Stu Stone, Cam Gordon appearances
on Fridays,
and he has a wrestling question for you.
So I'm glad you did this
so I can segue over to that.
But how is this a sport it is i feel
like what you need to do is invite dr d david schultz down to your basement uh maybe to give
you a little john stossel which by the way there's a documentary that's going to be on vice on that
exact exchange that you're talking about cam this tuesday on dark side of the ring oh really i i've
been watching all the episodes.
Well, make sure you watch the credits of the
Dr. D episode and see who gets a special thanks.
Oh, wow. Wow.
Interesting.
Now I've been teased.
Miriam.
Levi Fumka gets a special shout out at the end
of that thing.
Are you arguing with two wrestling fans
that wrestling is not a sport?
Right.
Do you think those injuries are fake?
If I may.
Well, does that mean that my Highline song
is not going to count?
If I may.
How is wrestling more a sport
than, let's say, Ice Capades?
I didn't choose a song about Ice Capades.
Well, because it requires athleticism.
Different. It needs athleticism. but these are predetermined outcomes
well I guess in Ice Capades
Peter Pan does fight
hook and goes over
but my point is they have to be
athletes they have to be able to be figure skaters
like Tessa Virtue could
now become Snow White and I could buy
a hundred dollar ticket to watch her do
something for my four yearyear-old who would love
it, by the way. But that's
not a sport.
That's not a sport because...
Yeah, but wait a minute.
Ice Capades is not presented
as a sport and wrestling
at one point was or still is.
So...
Okay, we can't spend all episode on this except
my argument is if the outcomes are
predetermined and you both acknowledge the outcomes are well you watch you watch boxing
and football don't you that's a whole separate discussion you watch the 2017 world series come
on pal yeah i mean what everything's entertainment brother big alex cora fan neil jenkins speaking of
which what a joke. That investigation.
We waited all this time
for results on a Boston Red Sox
investigation. A bit of, to quote
Larry Fedorik, a lunchbag letdown.
I mean, you've got to be shitting me.
Is that Larry Fedorik?
I don't think so.
I would have to say that
the Robert Mueller investigation
wasn't even this disappointing.
This is like... I just talked to Hebsey about this a moment ago
And yeah it's completely disappointing
And underwhelming
What a joke
Pardon my French
Pardon my French
Neil Jenkins
Writes in
On last Friday's episode
I think it was Stu
who made a passing comment about coming up
with a second list to talk through
in between the songs. Knowing
Stu's interest in wrestling,
I'd be interested in hearing
the 10 wrestlers who put
over, the 10
wrestlers who put over another wrestler.
For what it's worth, I think the moment
when Stone Cold beat Jake the Snake
with the famous post-match promo where Austin 316 was coined.
Okay, did that question make sense to you?
It makes sense to me, but I don't think that his example is a great example
because while Jake the Snake did the honors for Stone Cold,
that promo was what put Stone Cold over, not necessarily losing to Jake.
But I know what he's saying. It's like
when Hulk Hogan lost,
when Andre lost to Hogan,
he was passing the torch. Gotcha.
Harley Race lost to Ric Flair,
put him over. Bret Hart,
you could argue, put over Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Hercules to Billy Jocane's
battle of the full Nelson.
I mean, that was real
that's also an option
but you know what I'm saying it's like
a wrestler who has basically
you know they don't have these type of ice
capades questions but I will say
that what they're talking about because
Miriam looks a little confused here but
I'm going to explain it to you
in wrestling so there's like this big known
wrestler let's just say, like Hulk Hogan,
for example. You've heard of him, right?
So, in order for him
to draw money and have
an opponent, they've got to build up the opponent.
So, someone along the way is going to have
someone really credible who the fans
love is going to have to lose to that guy to make him
to elevate him
to Hogan's level.
You know what I mean? So, somebody has to put him to elevate him to Hogan's level to you know what I mean
so somebody has to put him over does
that make sense cam yeah I think you
set it up I mean in terms of the
vernacular I mean a top 10 list though
tweet that to me and I'll be happy to
answer that top 10 I will get Neil to do
that but I'm playing your first jam, Stu Stone.
A little bit different than the Migos.
But a wordsmith nonetheless. Simon Garfunkel, The Boxer.
Beautiful song.
Talk to us, Stu.
Why did you pick this one?
Well, I picked it for obvious reasons.
It is called The Boxer.
Boxing is a sport.
It is called The Boxer. Boxing is a sport. It is called The Boxer.
They tell a story involving the boxer.
And, of course, the chorus of the song reminds me of Cam
because he's such a liar.
He's always lying all the time.
And it just made me think of, you know,
this would be an appropriate sort of song to throw into battle.
It is about
sports it's by the great simon and garfunkel you're not going to find too many people that
are going to talk trash about those guys unless it's maybe paul simon's wife but that's a whole
other conversation for another like traffic cops about art gone yeah but i will say their music
is fantastic and uh you know the boxer lie lie lie lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
I'm thinking now of Edie Brickell on the New Bohemians had the big hit.
I couldn't, I don't think.
I'm not aware of too many things.
I know what I know if you know what I mean.
On the top of the cereal box religion.
Like this was a big jam, right?
It had a moment and uh i was
all over q107 for example also sampled sampled not covered by brand nubian i don't know if you
know the group brand nubian but they did a what i am is what i am but she's still married to paul
simon do we know i think so i'm assuming yes i think stew mentioned paul simon's wife and i
figured we were talking about edie brrickell and the New Bohemians.
Do you want me to look her up?
Well, Lieve Fumke is our official Googler.
I see her tapping away at her phone right now.
Well, I have an actual fun fact about Paul Simon.
It better be fun.
I may have mentioned this before.
I actually have a friend named Paul Simon.
He's a lawyer.
I went to McMaster University with him.
Born too late to get that name.
It's like Greg Brady, right? He's a radio host in this city. Yeah. As a lawyer, I went to McMaster University with him. Born too late to get that name. Like, I don't...
It's like Greg Brady, right?
He's a radio host in this city.
Yeah.
He was born at a time...
Like, he says his parents didn't know
that there was a Greg Brady on the Brady Bunch.
But if he's your age, this gentleman, Paul Simon,
the parents would know better
than to name their child Paul Simon.
Yeah, like, we're both born in 1977.
Like, unless his parents were living under a rock,
which maybe they were.
He's from Hamilton.
So hey, the rock.
Right on a curve.
But like arguably the Paul Simon was perhaps never more famous
than he was in 1977.
He was the first.
Wasn't he the first musical performer on Saturday Night Live in 1975?
He was massive in the mid-70s, Paul Simon.
Yeah.
Massive.
And of course, you know,
he had a comeback in that infamous era
between 1985 and 1989 that we're all so fond of.
Right, and he introduced us stupid North Americans
to world music.
Like, oh, there's music coming from Africa as well.
Like, he introduced us to all that
yeah what was that group the lady smith black i feel like you talked about recently with 1236 when
johnny not johnny was it johnny clegg who passed away the south african musician
right it was sort of in the same era you know talking heads were experimenting with
afro beat type stuff and certainly a lot of the stuff you heard on Braceland.
Shout out to Mark Weisblatt really quickly
because he really, really was hopeful
that this recap, the March 2020 recap episode
of Toronto Mic'd with 1236 would be in person.
He was really holding out hope to the very last minute.
He only kind of recently came to the realization,
not that he obviously knew,
but he was in a bit of a state of denial, I'd say,
that we're going to have to do another Zoom episode.
So I just want to shout him out
because on the 29th, I think, of March,
we're going to do our thing via Zoom,
and it's always a blast.
But good choice, Stu.
This one qualifies. Good job, The Boxer.
It's not about a dog.
Is it about a dog? You know, boxers?
No, it's not actually.
It's about a fighter.
Then I'm going to say great job.
And I like that you picked the Simon and Garfunkel jam
because it segues beautifully into my
first jam.
It's interesting. It was called The Boxer and the singer
has quite a mean hook.
Good job. And here, I could
have gone with a Simon and Garfunkel song
myself, but I actually felt like going with
this one.
This song
makes reference to sports
oh oh this is a cover this is a very controversial version Whoa, whoa, whoa God bless the priest, Mrs. Robinson
Heaven hold the place
Of course, Cam is just licking his chops
at the dying to tell us all about the Lemonheads.
Sure.
Cam is the aficionado of the Lemonheads.
Go ahead, Cam.
Cam looks like Evan Dando of the Lemonheads.
Oh.
Cam's much more handsome.
Okay, so this is obviously,
this was around that era era I guess early 90s
when you're hearing a lot of like
lowest of the low
on CFNY
they were playing this on like crazy
this is the Lemonheads covering
the Simon and Garfunkel classic
from
from
The Graduate
Mrs. Robinson
and
yeah, there's a sports reference
it's coming up if you want me to turn it up
It's okay, we know, Joe DiMaggio
but I'm still going to turn it up
but go ahead
So, I chose this because there's that great line
about Joe DiMaggio
Yeah, I mean
this is, I feel like this song would be in the conversation,
and I do like the original of this,
but if you did argue songs where the cover
is better than the original...
No, stop it, please.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
I don't even want...
It's disgraceful what you're saying.
Go ahead.
Mute this man.
Mute him.
I want him out.
I'm just saying, and I'm not... Don't even get it out of just saying and I'm not don't even get
it out of your mouth I'm not gonna let
you say it listen enough I'm just saying
some people might argue because I do
know that this song was very popular and
a lot of people do like this version of
this song especially a lot of people
like us that grew up in the 1990s listened to a lot
of CFNY perhaps saw
the Lemonheads at Edgefest where I believe
they played with Lois the Low
on one of those Edgefest bills
it was Juliana Hatfield
on that bill
yeah I don't know if she was still
in the band at that point
I would argue that that
is not that the people who would argue that that is not,
that the people who think that this cover is better than the original,
they are the same ilk of people who probably think that ugly kid Joe's
cats in the cradle is better than the original as well.
Yeah.
Our Marky Mark's walk on the wild side is better than the,
uh,
Lee Reed original.
Is that a cover though?
Or is that a sample?
That's a sample.
Typical cam to get that confused.
I actually have a
legit fun fact about Juliana
Hatfield too. Oh, this is going to
be good. You know, this is good.
The only time I paid to see a concert
on the grounds of McMaster
University during my
four years there, she played at the Downstairs John,
which was the campus bar opening for Hayden.
Oh, Hayden.
Oh, I do love Hayden.
Who I went to high school with,
or, well, went to the same high school as Hayden.
Hayden Downs.
I love Hayden.
I love Hayden.
Well, we've done...
I wonder...
I would love to know the FOTMs
who have heard all the Stu and
or Cam Gordon episodes of Toronto Mike
because I think we've spent some serious real
estate, like some serious time on
Hayden Desser. I love that.
Let's check with
Lisa Vachon or LBV.
It's not Lisa. You did that last week
too. I should have corrected you.
It's Linda.
Linda. Okay. Her, too.
Again, the twins.
The Vachon twins.
Linda is responsible for getting Retro Ontario's very own Ed Conroy on FOTM's Steve Paikin's The Agenda.
Ooh.
Okay.
That is a...
Now, Stu, that's a fun fact.
I just want to know, what was Julia Hatfield's...
What was her big song again?
Any relation to James Hetfield?
My Sister.
My Sister was the big
CFNY jam, which at the time was...
How does it go?
I hate my sister.
She's such a bitch.
She had another track
called Universal Heartbeat.
How does that go?
Oh!
It's sort of like a classic grunt song,
like quiet chorus and then this big crunchy.
The My Sister song, which got more airplay than that one,
it had that part.
She's the one who took me to my first old age.
I'm doing the tune wrong,
but it was the Violent Femmes and the Alpha Way Girls.
Do I have to Google this and play the YouTube?
I like the Violent Femmes.
I know their songs.
Oh, if we ever do a jam kicking, songs that reference other musicians, which is a great one.
That song, My Sister, by the Juliana Hatfield Three.
Don't forget the other two.
There's the Juliana Hatfield Three. Oh, I thought it was the Juliana Hatfield 3. Don't forget the other two. There's the Juliana Hatfield 3.
Oh, I thought it was the Juliana Hatfield Trio.
Oh, maybe.
Like the Holly Cole Trio?
Maybe. We should just do a jam kicking
of... I don't know any Holly Cole songs
either. What does she sing? She covered
Johnny Nash's I Can See Clearly Now.
I know that song.
That might be true.
And that's a cover. That is not a sample.
That is a cover. Okay. Her dad just
died and that was a Mark Wiseblot special.
He brought that to the Ridley
Funeral Home Memorial.
No. Holly Cole.
He was a CBC guy that...
Harry Cole? Maybe.
Harry Cole is Holly Cole's
dad? That would be
a fun fact. if you can confirm that
can you look that up please
you're confusing Harry Neal and Bob Cole
Bob Cole my bad
Bob Cole if Bob Cole is her dad
that is a mind blowing fun fact
maybe I can get Bob Cole
on Toronto Mike now
that would be the funnest fact of all time
I think so
I think that and then this is going to be Leve and Ian I hope you've so. I think that, and then this is going to be,
uh,
leave a,
and Ian,
uh,
hope you've cleared the next three hours because I think this is going to be a
long one because this jam I'm going to kick out,
which is,
uh,
Cam Gordon's second jam.
I think all of us have something to say about this song and I think it might
be the perfect choice for this topic and I'm going to play it so we can talk
about it.
By the way, I won the first round, but go ahead.
Is this the Tom Cochran? My boy's going to play in the big leagues? Tom Cochran?
My boy's gonna play in the big leagues?
Tom Cochran, Korea.
Wait, is Tom Cochran in the Red Riders or something?
It's Tom Cochran in Red Rider.
It was very confusing because there was Red Rider then there was Tom Cochran solo
then there was Tom Cochran and Red Rider
No, Tom Cochran solo
comes after, like Tom Cochran solo
would be the big hit that
was covered for the Cars movie
Life is a Highway, come on
That's Tom Cochran solo
before that, this is earlier than that
this is Red Rider stuff.
Yeah, this was from, anyway, this is, yeah, Tom Cochran and Red Rider.
Big League.
Big League or Big Leagues?
It is, the official title of this jam is.
Like plural?
Not plural.
I believe it's singular.
Big League.
Big League. Big League. Okay. It reminds me of the pavement song major leagues you guys ever hear that one you're the pavement guy yeah
tom i don't this song i think of the video that was i'm trying to remember how i described this
to you mike when we were dming i think i said like the ultimate hoser song yes um just depicted like
small town hockey rinks and sort of uh 16 year old hockey prodigy sort of discovers girls there's
like he's on a roller coaster does he like girls more than he likes hockey his dad sort of driving
like the whole kind of shtick put to song by
Tom Cocker
where's Tom Cocker from he's from like Saskatchewan
originally or I think Manitoba maybe
yeah I mean
I don't know what do you guys do you like this song
is this a good song
fun fact
you were in this video
I was not in the video.
However,
it at my bar mitzvah,
which was in jack of all trades,
there's candle lighting.
You know,
everybody comes up to light a candle at the bar mitzvah and a song plays for
that person.
The song that was used for my father to come up and light his candle was this
song.
Okay.
Thanks for bringing up tough memories.
Spoiler alert.
You've got to see Jack of All Trades.
I'm surprised you didn't tell us
that the MC of your bar mitzvah
was an FOTM.
Yeah, Brian Master.
I think this song's a good song.
I like it.
Fuck you both.
This is a great song.
This is a great song. This is a great song
and it's perfect for this topic.
In fact, it's the first song I thought of
when I came up with this topic and I'm so glad
that Big Cam is kicking it out for us today.
Also, I think
when we said sports jams,
the first thing that Leva Thumka said was
Tom Cochran.
It's a great jam and if you remember
in the timelines of this country's history
this song was big
in the aftermath
of the trade
of Wayne Gretzky
to the Los Angeles Kings
you could do a whole
documentary series
on what that did
to this nation's psyche
and I always
have this conversation
with sports fans
and they're like
oh you know
Crosby can't be traded
this guy can't be traded
I'm like
they fucking traded
Wayne Gretzky if you fucking traded Wayne Gretzky.
If you can trade Wayne Gretzky in the peak of his career,
anybody could be traded.
Okay, anybody can be traded.
And that was a big deal for me as a young teenager
and for hockey fans and for this country.
And then this song blew up like just shortly thereafter.
So I always tie the two events together.
But great song. And Tom Cochran two events together. But, great song.
And Tom Cochran, he's a national treasure.
Sure.
I agree. Something else I stumbled
upon,
it was sort of in the same
rabbit hole, pandemic
rabbit hole I'd fallen into in the Wayback Machine
when I found that Master T. Fun fact,
I found an article in
RPM Magazine, which used an article in RPM magazine,
which used to be the trade publication,
the Canadian music industry of Peter Pocklington,
former owner of the Edmonton Oilers.
And to many,
the man responsible for trade Wayne Gretzky promoting a concert by
Pavarotti at the Skydome in like 1994 or something.
And I'm just like, what an act of like villainy that man had, At the Skydome in like 1994 or something. Wow.
And I'm just like, what an act of like villainy.
That man had perpetrated in many's viewpoint on this country.
And here he is a few years later bringing a notice.
Peddling that Italian smut.
Bono collaborator Pavarotti.
The late great.
He's gone, right? He's no longer with us. Pavarotti The late great He's gone right he's no longer with us
Pavarotti? Right he's gone
I'm not sure is he
I don't know I think he's passed away
Pre-COVID
Yeah I don't know
But anyway Peter Pocklington
Doing something for the city of Toronto
You know years after he
Helped orchestrate the trade that
Made Wayne Gretzky leave
Canada. There is, I need to shout out the
excellent episode of the 30 for 30
series, the documentary series
from ESPN. That was like one of the first ones.
The King's Ransom?
Is that what it's called? Yeah.
And it's very good.
Yeah. Yeah, very good.
Of course, what was the guy that
the player that went the other way was the guy that the player that
went the other way
in the trade
that was
Jimmy Carson
Jimmy Carson
was a big
Jimmy Carson guy
yeah
he was
yeah
that's quite the trade
I mean
oh my god
you know
on the Wayne Gretzky front
because he's traded
for the Oilers
in the peak of his career
and we all know
what happens with the Kings
because we all remember that series I don't know if that in the peak of his career. And we all know what happens with the Kings because we all remember that
series. I don't know if that was the peak of his career.
He had won four Stanley Cups already.
So maybe he had already...
He had a long peak. He had an extraordinarily
long peak.
Gretzky's 10th year in the
league when he
got traded. That wasn't
like Bernie Nichols was in that trade. That was
separate, right? No, he was. I think it was Bernie right no he was i think there was bernie nichols and jimmy carson and like martin gelina i feel like
there were those are the three guys i think you're thinking of the uh okay because don't confuse did
he get traded to st louis wait tony granato maybe yeah i feel like nichols went to the rangers and
then the oilers later huh we need to need to Google it. Tony Granato.
You're right.
And Tom,
like Thomas Sandstrom were like involved in that swap.
Right.
Uh,
I do just real quick on the Gretzky.
First of all,
Gretzky,
I think he has some wonderful record where he's like the fastest guy to a
thousand points.
And he's the second fastest guy to get the next thousand or something like
because he was so his steroids,
you know, not a lot of people talk about this,
but Gretzky was on steroids.
Lots of them.
Are you joking?
Yes.
Okay.
You got to be careful
because my friend,
Lorne Honigman,
he's a good FOTM,
he would argue that
you can't say that
and not declare you're joking.
I'm joking.
Wayne Gretzky is the greatest player
to play his sport.
Maybe Michael Jordan is in that conversation as well, that's it i don't think jordan i don't think
jordan's the greatest basketball player of all time well jordan you're wrong i think and real
quick just because he's top of mind from this documentary series we're all watching uh last
dance but i think in my opinion and i think fotm brian gerstein has the same opinion because i saw
him tweet something to the effect is i believe the best all-around basketball player ever is LeBron James.
But the most exciting basketball player ever is Michael Jordan.
There would be no LeBron without Michael Jordan.
You can't do that.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
And I'm not a Jordan.
When Jordan was in his peak, I was rooting against Jordan.
I love Michael Jordan.
Obviously, he's an adult.
I appreciate him.
I wear his running shoes, everything.
But I will say that the man played six seasons –
sorry, in seven seasons, and one of those seasons he played baseball.
It's in eight.
I thought it was in seven.
Six and seven.
No, no, no.
He took two years off to play baseball.
Oh, sorry.
Six and eight.
The Houston Rockets win two in a row because Jordan played baseball.
I'm saying that Jordan won every single year that he was in his prime,
the championship.
Okay, but LeBron went to the NBA finals something like seven or eight years ago.
LeBron is a phenom as well,
but even LeBron would tell you that Michael Jordan is the best.
He's a humble guy, but he's wrong. Go ahead.
I just feel like NBA is the hardest of all the four major team sports to compare heroes.
It seems like every five years, it's like night and day.
You start talking about people like Kevin Durant.
LeBron James has size that Michael Jordan didn't have.
So for Michael Jordan to be as explosive as he was on his,
on his drives,
LeBron,
it's,
you can't compare the two.
LeBron is a truck and Michael Jordan is like a swift,
you know,
LeBron also has several years of longevity over Jordan now too.
I think like you could argue he's been playing at this level for 14 years, LeBron, at this point, where Jordan was eight, nine.
And also, LeBron can't hit a curveball.
But neither can Jordan.
He had one career home run with the Birmingham Bulls or whatever.
Hey, how many career home runs does LeBron have?
It's true.
One less than Jordan.
Oh, God, we've got to kick out the second jam
from Stew Stone.
Let's do it.
No, this is not
Saved by the Bell
in between scenes music.
Although it does sound like we're about to go into the max.
Wow.
Talk about on the nose.
Are you guys
ready?
Are you ready for some football?
A Monday night
invasion.
Of course,
Hank Williams Jr.
Are you
ready for some football?
Which is a cover I I would imagine, or a sample.
You know, we'd have to refer to the experts here,
but, you know, his big hit song of the era,
All My Rowdy Friends.
This is a cover of that?
A parody of that?
How would you describe it?
It's the same song with different lyrics.
I'd say a new version of that other song.
A reworking, maybe? a re-visualization
uh i got a revamp yeah a reprise i can plead complete ignorance in that i actually didn't
know about this all my rowdy friends uh all my rowdy friends is interesting because uh in the
80s on mtv they didn't play too many country music videos.
Ever, really.
But Hank Williams Jr.
cracked the code because he went like the Motley Crue
route and
had all these scantily clad women
in his video
for all my rowdy
friends. It's basically these like
it's like a very misogynistic sort of
video where he's in his misogynistic sort of video where
he's like in his house with like all these like
sort of playboy type ladies
cleaning his house and feeding him
rubbing his feet and stuff
I feel like this is a degree
or two away from like a ZZ Top
video from what I recall
like Robert Palmer that's
a totally different thing but again
consider the era
some of the content you would see on MTV are much like Robert Palmer that's a totally different thing but again consider the era yes
some of the content
you would see on MTV
are much
Stu
yeah if I may
Stu
who gives a fuck
about MTV
like how many
listeners of Toronto
Mike do you think
watched MTV
oh I did
I had a satellite dish
so I watched MTV
from the very beginning
I used to
stay home
sick from school
to watch MTV
all day
but dude you know most of us who grew up in this country did not have a satellite
I was on the Edison Twins, Mike, so I had a different childhood than you.
You had Edison Twin money.
Okay, because I was going to say, the only time you heard a song like that on Much Music
was when Bill Wilichka was hosting Outlaws and Heroes.
Yeah, another Thornley Secondary School alumni, Bill Wolichka.
I'm not claiming that that last song is a good song,
or it's a song that I would listen to,
but I do think that people who watch football definitely are familiar with
Are You Ready for Some Football?
There's not a football fan alive who doesn't know that song.
Of course, Hank got himself into some trouble for doing something racy,
and they ended up pulling
the song and they replaced it with
Carrie Underwood
singing Are You Ready For Some Football?
She's married to a hockey guy.
She is. Who's she married to?
I think Mike Fisher.
Because Hayley Duff is married
to Mike Comrie.
Right, and Cam's sister is
married to Mike Pekka.
Is that true?
I wish.
I wish.
I don't know when you're kidding me.
I'm not a fan of it.
She's married to some guy who works at the airport.
And Mike Pekka probably works at the airport right now.
Okay.
He's passed through the airport a few times.
Not these days, though.
That's a good choice.
The only thing is it's so on the nose.
It's fine.
And there's no points. You wanted songs about sports that reference sports that song's
called are you ready for some football if that doesn't win round two then this is a rigged
i won't begrudgingly admit stew is pulling like a way a vintage wade boggs today he's two for two
with his choices i'm i'm a fan. Wade fucking Boggs and those chicken wings,
man.
You're bringing it back.
Chicken wings, yeah.
Holy smokes.
All right.
I'm really excited
to kick out this jam
because it's a Warren
Zevon jam that has
a great like cameo.
I can't wait to tell
you who it is as a fun
fact, but let's kick it
out.
It's the hockey song. It's the hockey song.
Well, I'm glad that I won this round. Started playing hockey by the time he was nine. His dad took the hose and froze the battery out.
Well, I'm glad that I won this round.
Little Buddy dreamed he was Rocket Richard.
He grew up big and he grew up tough.
He saw himself scoring for the Windsor Canucks.
But he wasn't that good with a puck.
But his real talent was beating people up His heart wasn't in it, but the crowd ate it up
Through Kiwis and Juniors and Midgets and Mikes
He must have racked up more than 300 fights
Till a scout from the Flames came down from Saskatoon
Said there's always room on a team for a game Is he Canadian?
How does he know so fucking much about hockey?
He is Canadian.
Did the NHL commission him to sing this or something?
It's a buddy. What else can a farm boy from Canada do?
It's a buddy.
What's a Canadian farm boy to do?
It's a buddy.
Okay, you're right.
He knows a lot.
This hockey song feels like it was written by a hockey fan.
Well, he's from Chicago, so I mean, you know, if Americans from any city is going to know about hockey, have a good Midwestern vibe.
I've never heard this song.
Oh, my God. OK, so you hear that voice saying, hit somebody.
You heard it a couple of times. It comes back later.
Hit somebody. Do any of you know who is saying hit somebody
or do you need to hear it again
to make it?
It's Ron Francis, I think.
Is it not?
No.
Okay.
But it's a, you know,
it's a great story
about a guy who was a goon
back when,
remember,
you guys are kind of young.
Do you remember when teams had goons? No, I don't
remember because we're so young.
We didn't have goons back in my day.
Back when Ovechkin was coming up.
Guys from Sweden? How'd that work?
What's a goon?
Is that a verb?
Do you want to know who's saying hit somebody here real quick before I forget?
Hit somebody
is David Letterman.
Oh.
I do like David Letterman more than that song.
I mean, it's a good song.
How dare you, by the way.
You don't like the song?
No, I like it.
But just like how dare you of accusing me of being like so on the nose with
are you ready for some football?
And you have a song called The Hockey Song.
You know, that's all right.
I'm used to this sort of treatment.
But, you know, I think I'd definitely take home another round.
This song is a nice song.
The issue is that it doesn't have that repeat listen value to it.
I can't see myself wanting to hear it again.
You know what I mean?
It's like you hear the story once and you sort of get the story.
Am I wrong, Cam? boy from canada but i mean it's like you hear the story once and you sort of get the story am i wrong cam right uh i i'd say it's definitely not as memorable i mean there's perhaps a reason that we're all a bit less familiar than all my rowdy friends rick flair drip the boxer some of
the other tunes here's a question for you guys This is a serious question. We've recently lost
John Prine.
I remember,
do you remember that last album Warren
Zavon put out, The Wind?
And he went on David Letterman and it was really
quite sad. When an artist
passes away, do you guys sort of
fall into a lapse, especially if it's someone
you maybe weren't that familiar with?
John Prine is a great example. John Prine is a guy i've been hearing forever about this john prine's great
john prine's great of course he had no hits right like so i didn't know much john prine in fact just
before he passed we kicked out a jam from john prine called uh or uh fuck anyway great song
great song by john prine and i listened to it like over and over again thinking this is really
fucking good i really like this song that's being kicked out by an fotm. And I listened to it like over and over again thinking this is really fucking good. I really like
this song that's being kicked out by an FOTM.
And I got really into it. Then he dies.
He gets COVID. He dies of COVID.
And I do a deep dive into his
catalog and I'm like, why wasn't I
listening to John Prine the whole time?
He's amazing. This happens to me a lot.
All you need was a pandemic
to make that happen. Anyway, I remember
when Warren Zavavon died he had
that song i think was called keep me in your heart yes yeah which was just like heartbreaking
because he was like basically terminal cancer i think yeah um yeah i mean it's i don't know it's
it's always like an oddly effective way to get some new fans like in a very tragic and almost morbid way. Unlike John Prine,
Warren Zevon had a hit, like a big
hit. So even casual
music fans know one
Warren Zevon song.
No, that's like
Werewolves of London. Werewolves of London.
Werewolves of London was a big hit.
Most people know it. Yeah. Sort of
like a Diet Bob Seger.
Sure, but Seger's got lots of hits but yeah
uh with the one so people know zeevon's got one hit but they probably couldn't name a second
zeevon song but i uh back to that letterman appearance where he said goodbye because he
had terminal cancer and he knew he was dying his line in that i i quote it often on many episodes
of toronto mic and i think about it all the time uh David Letterman looks at Warren Zivon who has got like months to live
and he says,
is there any wisdom you'd like to share
with us? Any
advice for us as you're taking
your final journey here? And he says,
enjoy every
sandwich.
And it's sort of
like that whole carpe diem
kind of sense, but I think about that line often.
Like, you don't know what news you'll get tomorrow.
Like, Zeevon's coasting along.
He gets a, he's got, I don't know what was the symptom he had, but he finds out he's got months to live.
He's got terminal cancer.
It's all done.
Enjoy every sandwich.
Very prescient.
And I remember there was a tribute album that came out for Warren Zevon after he passed.
And that was the name of the album, Enjoy Every Sandwich.
Wow, that makes sense.
Yeah.
I recall the Pixies were on that.
Of course.
I'm sorry I had that.
I remember I think I reviewed it for Chart Magazine.
Other notable Warrens, of course.
Warren G.
Warren Haynes.
Warren Beatty. Shout out to Warren G. Warren Haynes. Warren Beatty.
Shout out to Warren Peace.
Warren Blackwood.
Elizabeth Warren.
Elizabeth Warren.
The war on drugs.
Elizabeth Warren's brother died of COVID the other day.
I saw that.
You just got 11 minutes?
Great song.
Probably Bob Dylan's most commercial success.
No, get out of town with that nonsense.
But it is a great jam.
It is eight and a half minutes or something,
but it is a wonderful song.
So tell us, Cam,
why did you choose the amazing Hurricane by Bob Dylan?
Yeah, so this is the Hurricane, of course,
about the boxer Robin Hurricane Carter.
Ruben.
Ruben.
I call him Robin, you know. He's no longer with us.. I call him Robin.
He's no longer with us.
I just called him Robin.
Just don't even let this guy talk about the song.
He just said Robin.
Anyway, be that as it may.
I should also have this at my fingertip.
Ruben Carter lived in Toronto.
He sought refuge in Toronto Because he
I feel like he had some
Dealings with Spider Jones
Am I imagining that?
I know Spider Jones
Obviously the local
I think you're right
He was big in the boxing community
Spider Jones
I think you're right
Yeah
I do recall
Burt Sugar
Going on Primetime Sports
With a lot of
Ruben Carter
Tales I never really understood Why this song I do recall Bert Sugar going on Primetime Sports with a lot of Ruben Carter tales.
I never really understood why this song is in the movie Dazed and Confused.
Have I imagined that?
Like with one of the Matthew McConaughey scenes?
I think it's in the movie The Hurricane.
I would imagine.
And it definitely made a comeback.
Like one of those songs that came back again,
like the Twist and Shout Beatles,
the Hurricane all of a sudden was a big song again.
Bohemian Rhapsody.
When Wayne's Word came out,
Bohemian Rhapsody had a whole second win there.
Yeah.
You mentioned Bert Sugar, Randolph Sugar.
I just want to say my favorite primetime sports moments,
non-FOTM Bob McCallum, maybe one
day we'll be in FOTM, that's a controversial
topic. He
with Steven Brunt
talking up Bert Randolph Sugar,
I could listen to that for hours.
Yeah, I mean, boxing,
boxing's
this is like a very,
I'm not trying to be funny,
but boxing is a very interesting sport because there's a lot of movies about boxing,
a lot of songs are in about boxing.
I think it's one of those things, even if you're not a boxing fan,
is very cinematic and theatrical and kind of tragic.
I think, you know, a lot, i would argue most people get into boxing is because you know
punching their way out of poverty yeah like they need the money or they're in some kind of
desperate situation where this is perhaps a way out i don't know like i could be wrong i know
there's on the flip side there's like boxer size class and whatnot and then sort of with the
proliferation of mma what was stew's like his eyes are like bug. And then sort of with the proliferation of MMA,
what was Stu's like,
his eyes are like bugging out.
He's looking like Rodney Dangerfield.
I just feel like you're playing this song about Robin,
the hurricane.
And you've not even,
we're not even touching upon like this.
There's,
there's reason why this song is even about him.
It's not a big,
that's necessarily about his career in the ring.
It's about the fact that he was misidentified for a crime and put in jail.
Very making a murderer.
No, no, no.
Don't compare it to that.
This guy was innocent.
Ruben Hurricane Carter.
You think that Stephen Avery is not innocent?
That's inconclusive to me.
He may have been guilty of those crimes.
But Ruben Hurricane Carter was an innocent man.
Let's face it. there was racism involved.
It's a tremendous story.
He didn't get
fucked over. A group from Toronto.
That's why he ends up in Toronto, right?
There's people in Toronto who were trying to get him
released
from jail for that. And the movie's great.
Denzel Washington's in it. They film it here
in Toronto and people should see it.
But this song kind of tells us that.
What ends up happening at the end for Ruben?
That's a great question.
No, no, I'm trying to hear the song.
Well, you've got to wait another three and a half
minutes to find out how it ends. But yeah, this is one of those
Bob Dylan's known for his long songs.
He likes the
Desperation Row, for example,
like 11 and a half minutes or something.
Interestingly enough, when Cam makes a selection
and it's like Wakefield is the artist,
he's got tons of information on the song.
He knows all about it.
But then he picks a Bob Dylan song,
can't even pronounce the fucking name right
of the guy the song's about,
and then has no fun facts or has no intel on the song whatsoever it's as if he went on google looked up sports songs
and just copied and pasted okay so a man being wrongfully imprisoned for years the best years
of a man's life you're looking for fun facts no no i'm saying that like it took me prodding you
to get you to even acknowledge that happened you're're too busy talking about Razor Ruddock and Spider Jones.
First of all, I did not talk about Razor Ruddock.
Second of all.
By the way, Razor Ruddock should have beat Mike Tyson.
Remember the back-to-backs they had?
I fucking love Razor Ruddock.
And I watched those.
I thought he could have beat Mike Tyson.
Good man.
To quote DJ Jazzy Jeff in the French phrase. Right, because he could have beat Mike Tyson. I get those. I thought he could have beat Mike Tyson. Good man. To quote DJ Jazzy Jeff in the French phrase.
Right, because he could have beat Mike Tyson.
I get it.
Anyway, I'm just saying.
My daughter met Will Smith, by the way.
You watch where you're pointing that finger.
You watch where you're pointing that finger.
The entire narrative of Ruben, don't call me Robin, Hurricane Carter would not do it justice.
That's a story that's been well told.
I recommend all listeners of Toronto
and Mike to look
that up, read some books.
You know, because Cam certainly didn't.
He passed away in
2014, by the way. I'm not going to engage
in this anymore.
Typical.
Running away.
Rest in peace, in this anymore. Typical. Running away. Running away.
Rest in peace,
Ruben Carter,
the hurricane.
This is coming from
a man with earbuds
on his hat.
Hey,
according to Ian,
I sound fucking great.
That's true.
I know it.
I should let you know.
I do see the chats.
I can't contribute
because it's too many.
Happy to participate
in a group photo
after the wire is no longer covering my
face, but I will say
so far I am just putting on a
show for the Toronto Mic listeners
in dominance. Can you
take a screen cap that I can use? Because you
did it two weeks ago and I used the same one
for two weeks. Can you wait till after?
Because my mic is better right now.
Three, two, one.
Son of a bitch. And one more. Three, two, one. Son of a bitch.
And one more.
One, two, three.
Okay.
Those are some good ones.
Thanks.
I appreciate that.
It helps me promote the episode.
How are you guys doing?
How's Ian Service doing?
Just checking in.
We have an eight and a half minute song here.
Say hi, Ian.
Is Ian Service here? Hello, Ian. Oh, he's busy. I think he might be on a phone call. We can't bother him. in we have an eight and a half minute song here say hi ian is he in service here hello ian oh
he's busy i think he might be on a phone call we can't bother him he's working is he yeah say hi
no he's busy you want to say hi no he's waving no one can hear your wave okay leave a funk do
you want to chime in and just tell us how you're doing how are you and juan doing today uh good Uh, good. But, uh, in about 50 minutes, I have my own, uh, Zoom actual work meeting.
So I might have to disappear.
Can you push it?
I should try to do some work.
Where do you work?
That's top secret. We can't reveal that.
Yeah, I don't want to say.
We don't even like to tell people where Cam works.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm going to roll right into
Stu Stone's next jam here.
Wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on.
Okay. Why?
Tell me why you want to hold on.
Yes.
You weren't the only one to pick
that last song.
Oh.
Thank you for reminding me. So, so yeah this happens once in a while and i again i see stew's jams i see cam's jams and i see my own obviously
but you guys don't see each other's jams or my jams you both pick this jam the hurricane i'll
say this blanket statement we've listened to some great songs today. Can we agree on that at least? Yes. Okay. Wait till you hear
my Wig Field, the
single I'm going to be kicking out
in a minute here. But okay, so yes,
Stu also picked the Hurricane, but
then I made him pick a sixth jam so we could
flesh it out. Anything else you
want to say about that, Stu? No.
Okay, let's kick out
another Stu Stone Jam.
Now, when you told me that Cam picked the same song as me,
this is the song I thought it was going to be.
But it wasn't. I think that this song sort of was one of those sort of like I put it up there with like landslide as like songs I heard as a younger person and made me think, oh no, life is short, I'm getting older.
This is one of those self-reflective songs.
Even at a young age, I was self-reflective.
Hearing lyrics like when he talks about, he sees the deadhead sticker on the Cadillac.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, totally. I mean, this,
I think this was sort of written about at the time.
This kind of was, you know,
invented like yuppie middle-aged rock a bit.
One of the key complaints about this kind of... Well, he's from the Eagles, right?
So you've got like the Eagles fans,
maybe in the 70s,
you were a big Eagles guy.
And then this hits you in like the mid 80s.
I think it came out in 84 or so,
but totally touched. The song is called Boys
of Summer by the way Don Henley
obviously baseball reference
the Boys of Summer fun fact
the Boys of Summer of course is what people
refer to
baseball players are the Boys of Summer
also some may argue
that the song is about like you know summer love
and the Boys of Summer. But in actual actual retail price, Don Henley was a huge Brooklyn Dodgers fan.
And the nickname for the Brooklyn Dodgers, of course, was they were the ones that the term
Boys of Summer was coined on the Brooklyn Dodgers. And when they left, when they left Brooklyn to go
to L.A., that's sort of the reference that I'll still love you after the Boys of Summer are gone Summer was coined on the Brooklyn Dodgers. And when they left, when they left Brooklyn to go to LA,
that's sort of the reference that I'll still love you after the boys of summer are gone because they're leaving town.
They're going to LA.
How old is Don Henley?
Like he's probably 70 now.
Yeah,
for sure.
In the seventies.
I guess he's where,
where's he from?
Like,
I don't like,
well,
I guess he would have been like aware when the brooklyn dodgers were
around a child obviously but yeah i can find out i mean we've lost our uh googler actually i'm a
little concerned we're boring everyone because we lost both our uh our visitors we're not trust me
this is a great song another this is a song that i was expect uh he's 72 years old
born in 1947 wow okay well they don't move till 57 so he's 10 years old yeah yeah for sure that
his story checks out but can i can i can i interrupt because we're all sports fans us
we're all three sports fans here uh and we've i don't know i want you to speak for yourselves
but my guess is if you're like me you've never lost a team that you loved yet.
Like, I've never had a team I was in love with that left my city.
But I always think about, like, okay, Expos fans,
we all know some Expos fans, like, they had to watch that happen.
Grizzly, I don't know if there are Grizzly fanatics,
but I'm sure there were some.
They had to kind of endure this.
Seattle Sonics, Cleveland Browns, that was a big one.
Lots of teams.
But do you ever wonder ever wonder, let's say
I'm a big Raptors fan. I'm in love with the
Raptors. What if the Raptors were moving to
you name it or whatever.
Tallahassee or whatever.
That to me is like
a divorce. That's devastating.
Yeah.
I find it especially sad.
Something like when the Winnipeg Jets
left originally,
where they sort of only have one of the teams, and then that's pulled out.
I think the Supersonics is perhaps the worst type of example,
where that was, I think, mainly a weird arena-related maneuvering thing.
When you're going from Seattle to Oklahoma City I mean like I mean interestingly enough like during our era of being like teenagers and you know young adults watching sports more
teams moved during our era than any other era I mean you could count 10 teams that moved
if not more well also like in Canada alone you saw Vancouver lost to Grizzlies. Jets lost to...
Winnipeg lost to Jets.
The Nordiques went to Colorado.
Ottawa lost to Rough Riders.
Yeah, and then Montreal went to Washington and baseball.
Across the spectrum, Ottawa lost to Rough Riders.
Yeah.
I was also expecting Cam to say that the Atari's Boys of Summer is a better version.
This would be the flip side, like a shitty.
Right. Thank you.
The covers are way worse.
And they famously flipped the Deadhead reference to a Black Flag.
Yeah, I figured you would like that.
Yeah, because they're punk rock bands.
What are your thoughts on Alien Ant Farm Smooth Criminal?
I thought it was like at least a unique interpretation
at the time. They made it
their own.
I thought that very much the way
Limp Bizkit made Faith their own.
Okay. And one quick
thing. My nephew's mother
Okay, so my nephew's mother
So your sister-in-law
Yeah, but she's not because they were married, and they're not even together anymore.
So what would you...
Your ex-sister-in-law.
Your nephew's baby mama.
She never was married, so she's the mother of my brother's son.
Your nephew's father's baby's mama.
Okay.
Or, as I said originally, my nephew's mother, which is probably the cleanest way to say this.
My nephew's mother and I had a fight one day, a verbal fight, I won't point out, a verbal disagreement,
because she was insisting with me, you'll laugh in hindsight, but she was insisting, this is kind of before Google times,
but she was insisting with me that the Boys of Summer was a, she said it was a Brian Adams song.
And I was losing my shit because, of course,
I know it's a Don Henley song.
And I even said to her at the time,
this is many moons ago, maybe 15 years ago or so.
And I said to her, I said,
you're confusing the Boys of Summer with the Summer of 69.
This is what, I said it kind of calmly like that.
And she, it was, she would not accept that reality.
And she stood fast and fought me to tell me
The Boys of Summer was a Bryan Adams song.
Was this in the 80s or when was this?
Okay, she's probably about 45 now.
I would say it was about 15 years ago.
So that's not the 80s at all.
Like pre-internet, clearly.
It was around early 2000s, maybe.
I don't know.
But we didn't have devices.
We were at a restaurant.
And nobody had a device and nobody had a device.
Nobody had a device.
Interestingly enough,
the Eagles,
you know,
a lot of like these
like hardcore musicians,
they don't give the Eagles credit.
You know,
the Eagles are sort of
looked upon as like this hacky
sort of kiss kind of band
without the makeup.
But musicallyically it's
a lot of real true not me i'm saying that there are musicians that's that shit on the eagles really
like i don't think anyone's putting them in the kiss camp okay well maybe not kiss but i'm saying
like the in in terms of respect like kiss had to earn respect the hard way i'm saying my argument here is that like the
eagles got shit on by a lot of people during their heyday they were like a pop rock band or like the
gin blossoms i don't know how to explain it maybe it was a country-esque kind of thing there was
something frowned upon them by other musicians the eagles yet when they all went solo they all had
a lot of them had success and when you look at a rock band like that,
I can only think of the Beatles as another group where multiple members had
solo runs, maybe Genesis.
Oh, Genesis for sure.
Genesis.
But you know, the Eagles, Don Henley had singles.
Joe Walsh had some great songs.
Glenn Frey had singles.
Rest in peace.
You know, so maybe they were better than people gave them credit for.
Have you seen the documentary yet?
There's a really long wonder.
Anyways, that doc will sell anybody.
I've seen it.
It's great.
It makes Glenn Frey look like kind of the biggest asshole on the planet.
Again, rest in peace, Glenn Frey.
The heat is on.
Stu, I got to say, like, you're really bringing it Fry. The heat is on. So Stu,
I got to say like,
you're really bringing it today.
That's actually like a really good point.
I'd never,
never thought of like,
even think of something like the Spice Girls break up.
And yeah,
like varying degrees of success,
but it is really rare to have more,
I'd say more than two.
Well,
the players have.
Okay.
Legit.
It's really,
really rare.
Let's talk about this for a moment.
Maybe a new addition.
Yeah, Belle Biv DeVoe was one, though.
They all went together.
Well, Bobby Brown, Belle Biv DeVoe, Ralph Trey.
They all had songs.
True.
But, okay, I like this topic, actually, a lot.
But I just want to say that I think Genesis is the primo example
because two of those members had amazing solo careers.
And Mike Rutherford had a bunch of hits.
Yeah, The Beatles is number one
I mean you can't George Harrison
Paul McCartney John Lennon
yeah yeah the Genesis and the Beatles
yeah and the Eagles is a great example
and you're right multiple more than
two because you're right you can get two but having more than
two members of a band
have success on their own
is very rare I bet
if you did a tally of Glennenn fry don henley joe walsh
number of like let's let's call like top 100 billboard top 100 hits might be more than the
combined as solo artists yeah tally of john lennon George Harrison And Paul McCartney
You could be right
Obviously there's sort of
Wings and there's other
Considerations in there
Or even the
Traveling Wilburys
Let's
You know
Let's throw that name
Doesn't count
No you can't
Because that's a super group
You can't do that
So I'm saying like
As solo artists
The combined efforts
Of Glenn Frey
Joe Walsh
Don Henley
Are going to be
Pretty significant
Sure
Up against
Other bands I think Genesis Beats them But again of Glenn Frey, Joe Walsh, Don Henley are going to be pretty significant up against other trios from other bands.
I think Genesis beats them.
But again, Mike Rutherford
is a soul artist.
He has at least three hits. I know he's got a few
songs. Okay, he's got
three, but think about how many hits
freaking Phil Collins had.
Phil Collins alone would probably have more
than all the Eagles guys and probably all the
Beatles guys.
And Peter Gabriel had a long... Phil Collins alone would probably have more than all the Eagles guys and probably all the Beatles guys. Right.
And Peter Gabriel had a long, you know, even leading up to Sledgehammer and beyond, he had a bunch of hits.
Mike Rutherford was like Mike and the Mechanics, right?
That's right.
That's correct.
And they had a little tour with him.
All I need is a miracle.
All I need is you.
It's featured in a Leon's commercial.
Okay. What we're going to do now is I'm going to kick out a jam. There's a goal that everyone remembers It was back in old 72
We all squeezed the stick and we all pulled the trigger
And all I remember is sitting beside you
You said you didn't give a fuck about hockey
And I never saw someone say that before
You held my hand and we walked home
The long way you were loosening my grip on Bobby Orr
Isn't it amazing anything's accomplished
When the metal sensation gets in your way
Not one ambition whispering over your shoulder
Isn't it amazing?
Okay, my heart rates up.
I actually really, really like this song.
That's why I chose it.
The Tragically Hip's Fireworks
with that great opening verse there
about the Summit Series and Bobby Orr
and fucking kills.
Paul Henderson.
Henderson is scored for Canada.
Yeah, I fucking love this song Paul Henderson. Henderson has scored for Canada. Yeah.
I fucking love this song.
And that's all about a lot of hockey references in this thing.
Before we analyze this song, can we just add Wu-Tang Clan to that list of groups that had solo artists?
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Sorry about that.
Tragically Hip.
Tragically Hip.
Fantastic group. This is a song I'm not
that familiar with.
Were you in LA when this was out?
It did come across my Google searchings.
I did notice it when I was looking
for sports songs.
But I'm glad you picked it because now we get to hear about it.
This is called Fireworks, right?
That's the name of the song, right?
I'm familiar with the Katy Perry song, Fireworks.
Stu, for the record
when this can you yeah that's right for the record stew you were in la when this uh when this song
was released yeah probably i don't know because i don't know it because it's a monster hit in this
country this was all over the radio this is same album as bob right? Yeah, I wouldn't have known it. If it came out in the 2000s, I was unaware of it.
Do you like it?
I mean, it's nice.
I didn't know it was the Tragically Hip
until he started singing,
because you're not used to hearing
like a slide guitar sort of gimmick from them.
Nonsense boots or hearts.
I'm up to here.
But live, like I've seen them live many, many times.
Sadly, we'll never see them live again.
But this was a big live song.
Like even when I was listening to it in the headphones,
I could hear myself singing along at the show.
You don't think these guys would tour again with a different singer
under the right circumstances?
Sacrilegious.
Is it?
Yeah.
What if they did a tour, the surviving members,
with like kind of the rotating vocalist thing where like you know a little stephen page a little ron hawkins a little uh holly cole a
little guy from wide mouth mason how about only only fotms like uh andy yeah like there'd be yeah
andy mays easily you could slot in there Moe Berg Ron Hawkins
Gino Vanelli
Kish
Is there room for
Molly Johnson on the bill
Yeah
Like a Kumbaya festival
Ralph Benmerge
So it's unreleased because it just was
Recorded yesterday but
Crap he did too.
I can't remember which one.
I think it was Tara Sloan.
So I'm like here doing my thing and I have Tara Sloan in her home
and Ralph Ben-Murgy in Hamilton.
And we're meeting on Zoom and I'm not talking because it's not my show.
But I'm listening and I'm recording and doing my shit.
And the Kumbaya Festival came up at the Convo.
And so Ralph's telling a story about,
I guess he was one of the people who was on the stage talking
to the crowd at the Kumbaya Festival.
It's funny how often that
you know, and by the way, Stephen Page
is my guest
on Tuesday, I think.
Congratulations. Thank you.
But he was also, as you know, at the Kumbaya Festival.
So a lot of references to Kumbaya everywhere.
Stephen Page
seems like he obviously had a few down years where,
you know,
he perhaps kind of retreated from the public eye as he dealt with some
stuff.
You can Google what that's all about.
It seems like he's really,
it seems like he's doing quite a few interviews and just like touring more.
And he's just,
he seems a lot more present.
Like he's really kind of a force again
he's in the uh trans canada highwaymen that's right with uh can you name them all
we had uh chris murphy from sloan you had craig northy from the odds you had the aforementioned
mo berger the pursuit of happiness Happiness saying Gretzky rocks.
I'm not sure if we're going to be hearing that a bit later.
And then you have the aforementioned Stephen Page, former of the Barenaked Ladies.
Moe Berg is a big Blackhawks fan.
Did you know that?
I went to see a game in Buffalo at the odd back in the day, which Stu's all-time favorite player, I think, was probably on the team. Paddy LaFontaine.
La, la, la, la, LaFontaine!
Yeah.
I actually saw Moe Berg there at The Odd.
This was in the 90s. I was there with my dad.
Wow. I was so close to picking
the song Moe Bumba for this list,
but I thought it would be too contemporary.
I don't know if you know that song. Do you know Moe Bumba?
I know the player Moe Bumba.
You don't know the song? It's like, I got all calling. You don't know if you know that song do you know mo bumba i know the player mo bumba who's who's you don't know the science like i got oh call it you don't know that song no oh man it's
a great one mo bumba that is a great contemporary rap song who's the artist though uh the artist is
uh uh mo bumba uh i'll find out okay we'll look it up. We got to get kicking here before we lose Levi Fumka to another Zoom call.
So let's kick out another Cam Gordon.
Hold on.
Hold on a second.
Sheck Wes is the name of the guy.
Sheck Wes.
Sheck Wes.
Oh, yeah.
Sheck Wes.
Stu Stone, may I proceed?
Am I allowed to proceed?
Yes.
Here comes Tanya Harding.
She now, Tanya Harding, with a chance to win a trip to Germany.
It's such a tremendous difference.
If you finish third, you skate in Munich.
If you finish fourth, you stay at home and watch on television.
She was second there for the original program, 20 years ago. What the fuck is this?
A little bit of a tone change here.
Let's let breathe a bit and then we'll,
we'll fill you in a second.
This sounds like the guy that sings like,
Hey,
nah,
nah,
nah.
Hey,
the dream academy.
Yeah.
Northern town.
Yeah.
It's a similar vibe.
I suppose.
Triple X alone.
you guys are very familiar with this no, I heard it for the first time when...
Okay, show of hands, Ian.
Put down your fucking soup.
I see you eating too.
Has anyone heard this?
Just show of hands.
Anyone?
About no over four.
So while I'm having a Wade Boggs type of night,
you're having sort of a Garth Orge type of night.
Well, I mean, we talk about a song about sports.
I mean, this is literally talking about triple axles.
No, the song is actually really good.
No, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
More of a Nelson Liriano kind of night, maybe.
But go ahead, Cam.
Lord Nelson.
So this is a song called Tanya Harding, obviously,
about the figure skater by,
I might need a pronunciation check on the Sufjan Stevens,
kind of the precious singer songwriter of the early two thousands and into this day. This is one of his more recent songs.
I think he put this out on spot. We have some like recent songs.
You strange. You have some recent songs. You. It's strange. You have. I have some recent songs.
Yeah, so this came out,
I think he put it out around the same time.
It's not in that movie that came out about Tonya Harding,
but I think he put it out around the same time.
Sort of his rendition of what happened with Jeff Gululi
and that whole affair.
She was actually asked about this song.
Tonya Harding was not a fan of the lyrics and the presentation.
I can't believe you had the nerve to ask her that.
Well, we go way back.
It's like asking Yoko Ono what she thinks of Be My Yoko Ono by the Barenaked Ladies. It could go either way.
She would say, like, I haven't heard that song.
I don't... Spoiler alert, but
I heard the other day Stephen Page
telling Ralph Ben-Murray the story of
bumping into Sean Lennon
at a club in New York, and Sean Lennon
running up to Stephen Page
and Ed Robertson and saying,
I love that song about my mom.
Wow, so maybe she does know it.
Wow.
I just figured she would be too,
you know. She knows it.
But again, I love this song.
I think it's awesome. You know, if Cam was
a band that you were really
a big fan of, right? And you
spent your hard-earned money to see Cam
come to your town to play
a concert.
He's the type of guy that's playing all of his new songs.
He's not
rewarding his legions
of fans with the hits that they came for.
He wants to play his new songs.
You know, Wigfield,
like these obscure
hits that I talk about.
Tom Cockerick, Big League, you know, this
obscure indie artist that no one's
ever heard of.
I have so many things to say.
I'm referring to songs that when we say, like, raise your
hand if you've heard it, at least one person
raises their hand. I think it's nice to
have a mix. Personally, you know,
we discover some great tunes. Like, this is
a great song. Mike said
off the top that he really likes
this song. I need a couple of things.
I think he's just doing a little lip service.
This gentleman, who I've heard him before, he had the
Illinois album, right?
But he has the song
that haunts me in a beautiful way.
My son shares this love, too.
He's sleeping around the corner right now. But there's
a great movie called Call Me By Your Name.
It's a couple years ago now.
And I love this movie.
I love this movie. I love this movie.
And this,
the big song from this movie is a,
and I have trouble with his name too,
but a,
uh,
suffering,
suffering,
Stephen.
Okay.
That gentleman has the big song from call me by your name.
And you should Google this or whatever.
It's a song called mysteries of love.
It's hauntingly beautiful.
Like his music is gorgeous. It washes over you called Mysteries of Love. It's hauntingly beautiful. His music is gorgeous.
Is that song about sports?
Maybe.
No, it's not.
It's about love.
Now it's mysterious.
That's next week's topic.
And I need to shout out,
before we lose Lieve Fumke to her other Zoom call,
I see a chat here that she put in the chat window here
that no one can see except us,
that when she
i guess when when juan heard this song was called boys of summer juan uh thought it was by brian
adams as well am i getting that right and this caused such a fight between me and my nephew's
mother that it's i'm worried now about my relationship with juan when I see him at the next TMLX because that's...
Yeah, but your
nephew's mother
was born in Canada, right?
But why does Juan think that? Is it because
he's confusing it with Summer of 69 as well?
No, I think it was just
the voice. But it doesn't sound like Brian Adams.
Don Henley doesn't
sound like Brian Adams, right?
I was going to say if you mistook him for like Bruce Springsteen or John Cougar Mellencamp, Brian Adams. Don Henley doesn't sound like Bryan Adams, right? I was going to say if you mistook him for like Bruce Springsteen or John Cougar Mellencamp, Bryan Adams.
The last guy sounded more like the singer of Hey In My Mind.
More than Bryan Adams and Don Henley sound alike.
Did you say Bruce Springsteen, Cam?
You said Bruce Springsteen?
Like Bryan Adams, Bruce Springsteen.
I can see how you can mix up their style.
More than
Don Henley. I'm just saying Don Henley is like a...
This is not my jam.
He said Bruce, so I skipped you to go to me,
but we'll do you twice.
I sort of missed what you were doing there.
That's not my jam.
This is my jam, not Stu's.
Like Al Bundy. All we keep talking about is glory days. Well, let's pass you by glory days.
Like Al Bundy, Popeye.
Right.
And I think it's used to, in fact, I know it is,
you famously like to remind us that artists that were big in the 60s and 70s
kind of in the mid-80s have these big moments, right?
Oh, I thought you were going to put them on the list of artists
we thought were Jewish but aren't.
Steen, right.
Right, because there's actually a movie called Blinded by the Light,
which is very good.
It's better than yesterday, but the dad thinks he's Jewish
because his name is Bruce Springsteen,
and all the Steens are Jewish, right, of course.
Not this one.
Not this one.
Steen and all the Steens are Jewish, right? Of course, but not this one. So, um, this album born in the USA was my introduction to Bruce Springsteen. That was my, so, so everyone who's
like a little older than me, let's say 50, 50 plus, they're all in love with like a seventies
Bruce. Okay. Like to Run. That whole
era of
Bruce.
I miss 70s Bruce.
This is the Bruce I grew up with.
There's definitely legions of women
and men, mostly women, that
love and swear by Bruce. A lot of men
too. Bruce Springsteen has
legions of loyal fans that
just are obsessed with him and
like you a lot of generations a whole generation was introduced to him in the 80s now in the 80s
in the mid 80s nothing was hotter than being pro-america right you know hulkamania you know
rocky balboa all that type of stuff uh but uh but uh bruce springsteen
born in the usa i mean even though it's just not a song even though it's not it's another one of
those uh our lady peace type songs where you listen to it it's not really what you think it is
but born in the usa was such a patriotic anthem that's how we a lot of us met bruce springsteen
for the first time.
And for the record, he had
the jeans with the little rag in the back pocket.
George Michael worked better.
I think
that he came before George.
He did, but I'm just saying.
Because he's 84 or something.
Go ahead. 85 or something.
The video for the song shows him playing baseball, right?
Yep. The opening line
talks about he could blow a speedball.
Like you said, Polk High.
There's an Al Bundy Polk High theme about peaking too early, if you will,
like peaking in high school or whatever.
It's a great song.
For those that don't know, Al Bundy had five touchdowns in one game for Polk High.
That's a Married With Children reference for Juan, who is not from Canada.
I bet you that Married with Children made its way to Columbia.
I don't think so. I don't know.
I can think of other things that were flowing in Columbia, but not Married with Children.
Coffee. Coffee.
Yes, okay. Stick of coffee coffee that's the safest bet there
uh two escobars is another a tale of two escobars is another fantastic uh yeah 30 for 30 documentary
i love those things okay so mike i feel like you need to get lauren honickman to do like a scrub
of this episode and uh send out some cease and desist letters to some of the record as host
because he told me what to do if i ever have a guest on who says something like, if you have a guest on
who says something like Wayne Gretzky was on steroids,
I'm supposed to, he gave me a big coaching
lesson. Hypothetically. Yeah, well, let's say I had that
hypothetically. I'm supposed to stop down
and go, now wait a minute, Stu Stone.
That's speculation.
There's zero evidence that that is
true. I've seen it. I saw it
with my own eyes. I want to apologize
to Wayne Gretzky and his entire
family for the comments expressed
there by Steve Stone. Oh, sorry. You're right. I was thinking
of Brent.
Oh, Brent. He was a
St. John's Maple Leaf. A Tampa Bay Lightning.
But he was also a St. John's Maple Leaf.
Yes.
Brent Gretzky was a St. John's
Maple Leaf. And I remember at some point
making a joke to somebody that Gretzky was a St. John's maple leaf. And I remember at some point making a joke to somebody that Gretzky was a leaf.
And they were like, what?
And then I said, yeah, Brent Gretzky is a maple leaf farm.
Anyway, it was not a good joke.
I'm going to have Lorne Honigman scrub that joke from this episode.
You know what would be a great exercise?
This would be very fun for some sports fans of our vintage.
I like fun. What? Looking at
the Leafs circa 1988
when Wayne Gretzky got traded. I feel like this
has probably been done. I'm probably remembering like an old
Toronto Star article. Like what
would have been the package the Leafs could have
given up at that time that
would have trumped the Jimmy Carson
Marta Angelina
draft picks. Maybe like a
Daniel Merriak package.
But if I may, the biggest part that Pocklington wanted was the cash.
Like it was all about the cash.
And there's no way Harold fucking Ballard was cutting a check to Peter Pocklington.
Yeah, but you guys are like not looking at the big picture.
The real reason why that trade happened is the league needed Gretzky to be not playing in Edmonton. They wanted him to go to Los Angeles and boom hockey.
Who was the commissioner?
Gary Bettman.
No, Ziegler.
Ziegler?
Oh, Ziegler, Ziegler, right, right.
So, Stu, what you're saying is you think somehow,
and I think this was in that 30 for 30 documentary alluded to this,
the league somehow exerted pressure to get him to.
I mean, it was doing them no
favors to have their best player playing
in Edmonton in the 80s. Nobody
gave a shit about Edmonton outside of Canada.
And LA, as you know, LA,
this was the big market they were
trying to... And it
certainly worked, by the way. Hockey exploded
in America,
specifically on the West Coast.
Hockey exploded thanks to Gretzky.
And Mary Hart, who really took to the sport.
Yeah, and then, of course, his wife was that supermodel.
What's her name?
Janet.
Janet Jones.
Janet Jones.
Janet Jones.
Who was in Police Academy 6.
Something like that, yeah.
She also, there was quite a scandal
a few years ago with her and her
Rick Tockett gambling on hockey, although
you don't hear about that too much.
We don't talk
ill of the great ones.
We don't besmirch the great Wayne Gretzky.
It's like, if Gretzky doesn't know that his
wife is betting on sports, is that the same way that Sandra Bullock didn't know that her husband had like a Nazi thing in his basement?
Oh, like Ace of Base.
No, no. Like Jesse James was Sandra Bullock's husband. Right. And he had like a whole Nazi sort of room.
And she claimed that she didn't know that it was there. How can you live in a house and not know
there's a Nazi room in your house?
I'll say this. I think it's
amazing that the Oilers trade
Gretzky and two years later still won the Stanley Cup.
Yeah, that is amazing. I feel like they don't get enough
credit for that. Bill Ramford. Messier.
Messier, yeah. That was awesome.
With Esotikon in.
So we should remind people that Messier has
six rings and Gretzky only has four.
Gretzky never won again.
He never won again.
Did you guys see there was an article in Sportsnet just like two days ago where Gretzky said Leafs would have won the Stanley Cup in 1993?
If that high-sticking call actually...
He basically said that, which is just kind of weird.
I mean, how would he know?
Because if you can beat us, you can win it.
Meanwhile, they couldn't win it. Well, it goes to show you, it's like sports is
a team game, right? As good as
Gretzky is, it shows you
that he needed the supporting cast
to make it happen.
Like Jordan without Pippen.
Jordan never won without
Scottie Pippen. Well,
to be fair, we only saw him without Scotty Pippen
when he was like 45 playing for the Wizards.
Gretzky definitely did play with Bernie Nichols in the Kings.
I remember this specifically now that I'm honoring this.
But he didn't have Paul Coffey.
Did Paul Coffey end up going there eventually?
No, but he had Luke Robitaille, who was a Hall of Fame.
I was like, Robitaille, Nichols.
No defense, though. No defense.
Yeah, then Rob Blake. Wasn't Rob Blake?
Larry Murphy?
A bit later, yeah. Paul Coffey did go there eventually,
but that was probably like five years later.
Kelly Rudy. Herudy.
Right.
Is Kelly Rudy an FOTM?
Not yet. Not yet.
I should work on that.
I should work on that.
I'm just now getting to the...
Well, actually, he's a local guy
because he's on Hawking and Ken.
I think I can get him when this...
Is Juan's name Juan de Hong?
No.
Why, do you know a Juan de Hong?
No, I just am seeing...
I thought maybe they were married or something.
Oh, you know what?
We are married, but I kept my my maiden name.
Oh, very good.
Power to you.
What happened to keeping her anonymous as Levi Fumka?
I thought we talked about this.
Well, he pronounced my last name so horribly wrong.
No one would know it.
OK, look, I have to apologize to you, Stu.
I went out of order because I got really excited when Cam said Bruce Springsteen.
And I'm like, my next jam is Bruce.
Let's go back and get Cam.
No, let's go back and get Stu.
And then we'll do Cam.
And then we'll do Stu again.
Quick update. Who won the last round?
Well, we're still in this round.
Because I haven't played my song yet.
And I'm cleaning up, by the way.
It's a clean sweep so far.
It's not a competition.
But here we go.
Come on now.
Everybody knows this one.
Tiger is playing sports.
Is that a thing?
Is this a sport?
Ever since I became
the champ.
The champ is here.
What is that guy's name, the champ?
I hit him in the soloplex and he went for it.
That was like some bit on sports talk radio,
like the guy who gave the pro-line picks.
No, that was brother Jake Edwards.
On the Edwards Air Force Base, that was... Right, the champ is on the edwards air force base uh that was right the champ
is here he'd call in and be the champ he didn't call in he was the host of the uh morning zoo
and brother jake edwards would go on to work in vancouver for many years but he most recently
before retiring he was hosting something with gene volitis from jesse and gene who was also
at palma pasta that day That you all met
Wow I feel like I have a photo
That I took of Toronto Mike
Stewstone Gene Valaitis
And was it Lou Skeezes
Lou fucking Skeezes
Yeah he was there
It was basically like the Four Horsemen reboot
Speaking of the Trans Canada
Highwaymen okay so
I have a question about this song
Is this Eye of the Tiger?
But is it, sure it's a theme song
We know it from Rocky 2
Rocky 2? 3, 3, come on
Okay
Just to clarify
Again, the theme of this show
Because I think it's time to
Let me just like, you know what
Because Eye of the tiger is actually a boxing
expression the eye of the tiger only because of this song being no no no that's not true yeah it
is an actual dialogue in the fucking movie where he says eye of the tiger rock eye of the tiger
but number three carter was getting ready for a match uh he would right exactly also
fun fact,
Hulk Hogan,
who we've already referred to
several times,
who was in Rocky III,
before he had his iconic
I Am A Real American song,
he used to come to the ring
to this song.
And of course,
that song was Rick Martel's, right?
Like that wasn't originally
a Hulk Hogan thing.
No, no, no.
It was Barry Windham
and Mike Rotunda.
Okay, right.
Yeah.
But my point is, this is a sports song as there ever was one.
Okay, if I may, since I came up with this theme.
I said the song had to reference a sport, okay?
And in my opinion, this song...
No, you're wrong.
You hear the first tune of this song, you think boxing right away.
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
Let's look at the lyric sheet.
Rising up back on the street. The street, not the boxing right away. Wait, wait, wait. Let's look at the lyric sheet. Rising up back on the
street. The street, not the
hockey rink. That's fine. He's talking
about the boxing rink. You're the
one that referred to boxing as people who had to
fight their way off the streets, and he's telling
the story. Go ahead.
Did my time, took my chances.
Yada, yada, yada.
Hanging tough. You know,
shout out to NKOTb yes staying hungry just scanning
this for sports went the distance yep well keep going i think it's about it's about heroin abuse
right like as an addict the closest i would the thrill of the fight the fight
i'm gonna i'm going to allow it I'm going to allow it
because I want him
to have a perfect game
I want Stu to have
a perfect game
well why don't you go
to the studio audience
here and ask them
if this is a sports song
alright
we'll start with you
I know Lieve Fumka
is paying attention
I see her
so Lieve Fumka
is this a sports song
I think so
she likes you
she's like Linda
she's a big Stu fan.
Okay, Stu.
So you're saying thrill of the fight, therefore it's a sport.
This is a song about sports. Okay, so public enemy, fight the power.
Different fight.
Different fight.
Different fight.
Different fight.
Different fight.
That's a metaphorical fight.
We're talking about an actual fight here.
And when you think of this song, you see Carl Weathers going ding, ding, ding.
You see all that.
That's what you picture in your head when you see this.
Fiery Glitter, Rock and Roll Part 2.
That is a song that you would hear at sporting events,
but it does not reference sports, I wouldn't think.
Whereas this, Eye of the Tiger, directly references sports.
Okay, we talked about this song on a past episode, Wild Thing.
The Trogs version, the version by the LA punk rock band X.
Right.
That could have made it.
That could have made it.
I would have been okay with that.
No way.
Come on.
Because it referenced the Wild Thing, Ricky Von.
Okay.
Yeah, but it was written before.
Does it reference the wild thing, Ricky Von?
Yeah, but it was written before.
Major Tom played when Tom the Terminator, Hankey,
would be approaching the moon. I'm more of a Commander Tom fan.
The Commander Tom show.
I don't know if you're familiar.
Tom Jolson.
He's a weatherman at W...
I used to pray that he'd say happy birthday to me,
even when it wasn't my birthday.
You know what I remember, Stu?
You never did say happy birthday to me.
I always tell my kids, because my kids have a plethora of animated uh shows on
demand at their fingertips and i always say you know on sunday mornings when we had no school we
wake up the only thing that looked like kids programming was commander tom and i you remember
davy and goliath uh the dog right so i don't know davy like rocket robin hood hercules that wasn't commander tom
though that was no i'm saying like those were all those sunday morning that block of program that
was a global thing yeah hercules whatever but the commander tom show like you would get that was
like literally given to them by the church church of latter-day saints like that yeah like there'd
always be some like messages it's always like buried right at the end. It's like,
Oh,
you know,
God cares about our parents. So like the cat ran away,
but it's back and that's God's message.
Right.
Yeah.
Uh,
the church of Latter-day Saints,
I believe.
Wait,
did Tim think that I have the tiger as a sports song?
Okay.
Ian service who,
uh,
uh,
from Rome phone.ca.
We're going to hear a little tag at the end from Hebsey reminding us that he's responsible for hosting this wonderful program.
Ian Service, what do you say about Eye of the Tiger?
I would say it's synonymous with Rocky.
So I would say it's like a sports song.
Wow, it's unanimous.
These two bozos don't know what they're talking about.
Okay, so these are the two guests.
The two other people who are the actual
invited guests of the show they know okay oh so when you hear that song what do you think about
do you think about reading books that's not the question that's not the question
oh you think about the tv show survivor with the great rudy and whatever and jeff uh
the truck driving chick uh i have watched that first season but i never watched i only watched
the first season what about the guy and she's like if you were on fire in the forest i wouldn't
piss on you to put you out or something like that she says the truck trucker right she had
what was the name of the guy that richard richard hatch right right i remember rudy yeah he's the
old like navy seal guy or something i don't know so you're saying that you think of that program when you hear the song i have the tiger no i never once said i don't think of boxing and rocky i'm just
saying i tried mike gave us a theme i tailored my choices to mike's theme okay we got to get
going on these last jams we're at two hours even though your first pick was questioned by mike as
even being a sport altogether.
And I had your side, but I see how this goes.
As far as I'm concerned, wrestling is not a sport.
Well, that's disgusting for you to say that.
You're a real piece of shit, Mike.
Just my opinion.
And I think it's because of the predetermined outcomes.
It can't be a sport if it's predetermined outcomes.
But okay.
I mean, you vote in elections.
Alright.
My lawyer is telling me to move on and play this
next jam. Are you ready for the
final jam from Cam Gordon? By the way,
Cam, what t-shirt are you wearing
right now?
This is
a Tour de France t-shirt.
Why don't you play the song and I'll just leave it on my,
on my chest here.
And what a chest it is.
It's my bed,
my linens.
I'm sitting on my bed. Wow.
Nice.
Nice.
Craft work.
Is this a sports song?
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
This song is titled, tell us, Cam,
what's the name of this Kraftwerk song?
It's just called Tour de France.
It's about the Tour de France.
I also thought this would be a good song to talk over
because there's not much in the way of lyrics.
So unlike some of the other choices today.
This is...
Oh, sorry.
We picked some of the lyrics.
Stu's like seething over there.
Let him have it. No, I like thisething over there. Let him have it.
No, I like this.
I like this.
Let's get that fired up.
Try to bring in like a little culture here.
I like this song.
I like Kraftwerk.
I only really know the Calculator song.
I don't know too much Kraftwerk.
Yeah.
I feel like every song was about like electronics and some
like robots but they were ahead of their time this is obviously a big influence over some of
the music that uh electronic dance music we have today hip-hop here's here's sort of a random
question do you guys like that punk sure not my favorite but i like some of it yeah i feel like
they're kind of overrated.
Is it just me?
Do they have the video of the dog?
Dog police?
The dog gets on the bus and buys a book
or something. Am I got the right band name?
Are you not talking about dog police?
Is that the dog police?
No, that's different.
Who was dog police? Dog police! different i do who was dog police dog police beaver brown band or something it was a big video that was played on tv all the time the dog police
no this was a played a lot of much music this video for no dog police was the band with their
self-teaching there's some good like, Google images Dog Police is quite good, too. Yeah,
it was Dog Police with the song Dog Police.
And not Baja Men with their
Who Let the Dogs Out? That was a big jam, too.
But this was a video, yeah.
What song was that, Cam? The video that had the dogs?
Dude, that was Daft Punk.
Daft Funk by Daft Punk.
I always really like that song
because I like the video of the dogs.
Like, they're good. I just think people kind of lose their shit
over Daft Punk these days.
I don't know.
Fuck Daft Punk, man.
I didn't love
Get Lucky
when that came out. I don't know.
It's fine, but
that song sort of never did anything for me.
I can say
that Before We Lose Her, Levi Fumka's
husband Juan is a big cyclist.
I think he's got like a
Peloton or something? What has he got?
No, no, no. She says no.
But a stationary bike of some sort that he's
got in the house.
Does he ride to this song? I was going to say,
can you ask him to do his next workout
to this Kraftwerks
Tour de France?
I just told him about it and he never knew about it.
So now he's going to have to listen to this episode.
Just that is typical of Kim.
The obscure song.
That's sort of his MO.
Yeah.
Well,
again,
last week.
Whoa.
Again,
I brought some Wigfield.
I brought,
who else did we listen to last week well you brought
tom cochran and you brought uh bob dylan to this week's episode those are two big mainstream acts
come on stew that's two for five he was looking for jacob dylan but he couldn't find uh oh the
wallflowers right right right 16 what was that song one headlight right okay so do i let craft
work finish or can i get on to the next no i think you could get we we have a sense of this
all right i'm excited to kick this one out uh this is the final stewstone jam and mids a banger
and an fot hold on hold on this is like probably the most prolific sports song in the history of
this city I'm gonna just say that I'm gonna say that this is the most prolific sports song in the
history of this city wow with an FOTM doing the vocals which makes it special let's kick it out
you got a diamond, you got nine men
That's banjo, you didn't notice the banjo in the song before, but it's there
That's not all, you got the bleachers
Got them from spring till fall
You got a dog, and a drink, and an umpire's call
What do you want? Let's play ball They probably sold a lot of copies of this record in the city.
The 45 single was a soundly hot cake.
By the Bat Boys.
Oh, that's the credited
Like this is Keith Hampshire
I thought it was called the Bat Boys
Yeah but the yes
But the vocalist is Keith Hampshire
Yes
He was in Lighthouse or what band was he in
Solo guy he had big hits like
It's like a 70s CanCon artist, right?
Definitely.
Sort of like the...
The First Cut is the Deepest.
Do you remember that?
His cover of The First Cut is the Deepest
is a big CanCon hit.
Okay.
He actually worked on Caroline,
the pirate radio boat that they had out in the UK.
Do you know Radio Caroline? caroline pirate radio so he used
to be a dj on that back in the like late 60s or whatever but he's hampshire's a big fucking deal
you should really listen to his episode of toronto mic in which he goes into great detail as to how
he ends up singing this song sorry sort of has like a randy newman vibe yeah yeah yeah the short
people got no reason.
I'm really surprised.
You know, I stayed away from some songs expecting them to be here.
Like, we're talking baseball.
The day began with dinner.
Well, I didn't.
It's partially why I chose.
Oh.
This is holding up from the 1986.
Yeah, I was expecting that to be one of them.
This is Talking Baseball by the same artist, Terry Cashman,
but he changed the lyrics to 10 years. Yeah, they get that for every local market.
This was given to me, sent to me by FOTM Ken Daniels recently.
And on his B side is, because the Talkin' Baseball title
is not Talkin' Baseball.
It's actually called
Willie, Mickey, and the Duke.
Yeah.
I would say,
I would argue to say
that that song we just heard,
which was the most prolific sports song
in the history of this city,
is the only song
that has ever been played
on the Toronto Mike Show
or anywhere on planet Earth that references Dave Steep.
Right. He throws down a smoker.
Although like, have you ever actually played on your podcast,
any of those variety village albums?
I bet some of those might've referenced Dave Steep.
Yeah, that's true. They probably, yes.
That's a bit of a nitpick.
I have played them early and often.
In fact, I had once,
I had Mike Wilner on my program
just so we could listen to those old songs
and talk about them.
And of course, every time...
What are those songs?
They're parodies.
Well, most of them are parodies.
It depends on them.
Some of them are actually like Home Run, RBI.
Like there's some of them
are actually like original compositions,
but most of them are parodies. Like We we fought the jays and the jays won or
whatever like it's just a you know a cover a parody of we fought the law or whatever a lot
like that uh you know humble and fred have each kick done like parody songs like that for variety
uh village and we're going off to edmonton all right since wings fly away. All right. Since we've lost Levi Fumka, but we still have Tim.
I mean, sorry, Ian Serv is with us.
Let's kick out my final jam because it might be controversial.
I don't know.
I did criticize off the top.
I criticized Cam for kicking out a wrestling song because I said it wasn't a sport.
Sure fucking did.
Guys, let's do another screen cap.
This is a better look, I i think i'll give you a minute
okay you ready okay one two three
three
all right wait a minute what are we listening to here let's stopppelin? What is this? Hang in there. Hang in there.
One Night in Bangkok?
Is it One Night in Bangkok?
It's like the Sisters of Mercy, is it not?
Hurry, head.
Bangkok, oriental city, but the city don't know what the city is.
The creme de la creme of the chess world in a show with everything. It's Yul Brynner. Uh-huh.
You know I am a sucker for songs with talking. level there's no ordinary venue it's iceland or the philippines or hastings or this place all right guys let me have it i never would have
considered this a sports song i can't even think of what the reference to sports is.
Alright, Cam, you want to pile on and you want to echo those
sentiments?
My only idea is I feel like in the video
there was like karate or like
Muay Thai or like some
judo or some
one of the martial arts from
Thailand.
I'm going to put forward the argument
for your consideration now that
because of its requirement
that you be so physically fit
and mentally sharp,
chess is a sport.
This song is all
about chess.
Don't all talk at once here. Okay, so I'm arguing that chess is far more of a sport than wrestling
and sorry how is this song about chess oh it's all about chess like if you break down the lyrics
it's about a chess match and oh it requires you to break down the lyrics
this song is 100 about chess chess. Like, that's actually
not an argument.
It's not up for debate.
The debate that we could have
is whether chess is a sport.
But I believe it is.
And I believe this is the epitome,
and I chose it to go last on purpose,
the epitome of a sports song.
It's all about a chess match.
Okay, Kenny Rogers,
the gambler.
Sports song? Yes. match okay kenny rogers the gambler yes wow god this is from the play the musical chess
you're obviously not yes it's from it's by marie head who's also from uh
jesus christ we'll check in with ian in a moment but uh he's from jesus
christ superstar he's a this is yeah marie head and it yes it is uh from chess the musical
broadway musical and it's all about a chess match read the lyrics as you wish but
i'm guessing that your suggestions are that chess is not a sport therefore this disqualified so
i never said that i know know, I'm putting words
in your mouth. I am actually
just reading the actual,
had you done a little research, which you rarely
do, you would actually
read that there is no mention other
than that it appears in a play called Chess.
There is nothing. Read the first
verse of the lyrics. Somebody call up the lyrics.
The main song is a pop styling whose lyrics
compare the Thai capital city and its
nightlife with the game of chess.
It's a comparison of nightlife not
playing the game of chess.
It's not playing the game of chess.
It's a metaphor.
It mentions chess in the lyrics and
it's about chess. I mean, you're saying
Eye of the Tiger is not a fucking sports song
and you're saying that this is a chess song.
It's fucking ridiculous. I'll say this. Eye of the Tiger more of a fucking sports song, and you're saying that this is a chess song. It's fucking ridiculous.
I'll say this.
I have the Tiger more of a sports song than One Night in Bangkok.
I mean, it's ridiculous that I have the Tiger is questioned,
yet this is your offering, your number one, might I add.
And you can argue you played in any given order, but that's bullshit.
I have a question, because this was almost on my list. I think I swapped in
Kraftwerk. LL Cool J
Mama Said Knock You Out.
That would have qualified. That would be a sports song.
I was actually thinking of putting
in some Nas songs where he says
Iron Sheik's name or some rap song where they just say
Ken Batera's name.
Nas has a few
that I think would qualify.
The creme de la creme of the chess world in a show with everything but Yul Brynner.
And further, next second verse says, since the triol in the, I can't say this word, the tyrol and spa had the chess boys in it.
There's numerous references in this song to chess.
It's clearly about chess.
Okay, that's fine, but your argument about chess
not... You're playing a song
about chess in a
thing about sports. That's real cool, Mike.
That's real cool. Lana Del Rey
video games. Is that a sports
song? Ian Service,
unmute yourself for a moment and chime
in here, if you will. No one
is saying that chess is not a sport.
It's just your accusations that Eye of the Tiger and pro wrestling is not a sport.
Pro wrestling is not a sport.
Chess is not a sport.
It's a game.
My argument is chess is a sport.
But nobody can really argue that wrestling is a sport.
Well, it is actually called sports entertainment.
The word sports is at least in the description.
Okay, now Ian has another call and cannot join us.
Oh, guys, guys, this is big.
This is big.
Okay, guys.
Oh, my God.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I just Googled, is chess a sport?
The answer is no.
Chess is not a sport? The answer is no. Chess is not a sport. Dictionary.com defines sport as
an athletic activity requiring skill
or physical prowess and often of
a competitive nature as the basis of
chess competition is not
athletic. Guys, this is
what we need to do. Another Twitter
poll. Simple question.
What is more of a sport?
Professional wrestling or chess?
Let the MOTM decide. You're absolutely fucking ridiculous. Click on that, Cam. Click on What is more of a sport? Professional wrestling or chess? Yes. This is it.
Guys, you're absolutely fucking ridiculous.
The actual...
Click on that, Cam.
Click on what I just sent in the chat.
Click on it right now.
Malware or something? Just click it.
Not a sport.
Chess is not even a sport, Mike.
What theory?
Guys, go to GarbageDay.com slash Toronto Mike and sign up.
Will you sons of bitches?
I want to hear you sign up.
Another victory for Stu Stone on another magical week.
We're not picking the garbage.
Next week's theme song's not about sports.
I want you guys to be signed up before we talk next Friday.
And by the way, we'll leave it.
We'll do that.
Good idea.
Let's ask people. What's more of a sport? I do like Murray Head, by the way. You know I it. We'll do that good idea. Let's ask people,
what's more of a sport?
I do like Murray Head,
by the way,
and you know how much
I'm a sucker for songs
with talking,
so I like the song,
but Mike,
you got a lot of nerve.
You got a lot of nerve.
We'll put it on Twitter.
That's a great,
Twitter's a great
social media service.
I love it.
So maybe, Cam,
you put that on Twitter.
Let's let the people vote.
Like, what's more of a sport?
Wrestling?
Or chess?
Thank you guys for joining me. Happy birthday,
Leevae Fumpka. Ian, always a
fucking pleasure. I know you're on a call, but
Stew Stone, Cam Gordon,
I love this. Next week,
I'm picking the theme.
You are. Yes, you are.
Do you have any idea what you're doing yet, or are you going to think about it?
I'll let you know. I'll let you know, but
it will be songs about chess, so hopefully there's more.
And that.
Monica also laughs at me the way I say it like that.
She goes, why do you say it like that every time?
But I think it's something consistent,
a consistent thread throughout episodes of Toronto Mike
that I'm going to say,
I'm going to say,
throughout episodes of Toronto Mike that I'm going to say,
I'm going to say,
and that brings us to the end of our 628th show.
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