Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Stu Stone and Cam Gordon Return: Toronto Mike'd #559

Episode Date: December 13, 2019

Mike, Stu Stone and Cam Gordon remember great musicians who passed away this past decade....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to episode 559 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, StickerU.com, Ryan Master from KW Realty, and Banjo Dunk from Whiskey Jack. I'm Mike from TorontoMike.com, and joining me this week, Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. Hey. Hey, buddy.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Back again, the dynamic dudes. This is Stu. This is your fourth visit to the studio. I'm racking it up. And this is your second time with Cam beside you. That's right. I believe this is my fourth time as well. I think you each had deep dives separately, and then you each kicked out the jams separately,
Starting point is 00:01:14 and then you came in to battle each other. And then we ended up best friends. It's basically the Mega Powers plotline. Yes. Cam's going to try to sleep with my wife at some point, and then it's going to explode at sleep with my wife at some point and then it's going to explode at WrestleMania 6. And I'll mention he
Starting point is 00:01:28 has lust in his eyes and whatnot. Yeah. You've got lust in your eyes, Hogan. I saw you both recently because you guys were kind enough
Starting point is 00:01:38 to be. Oh, so it's our fifth appearance. Well, that doesn't count. I don't think because you also appeared at TMLX4.
Starting point is 00:01:44 That's right. No, the TMLXs don't count in I don't think that, because you also appeared at TMLX4. True, that's right, yeah. No, the TMLXs don't count in the official canon there, but there are episodes, but they don't count as an appearance in the studio. TMLX5 this year, this month, was at Palma's Kitchen, and you were both there.
Starting point is 00:01:59 What did you guys think? The pasta was incredible. The lineup was, it was like a who's who, it was like a Canadian Radio Hall of Fame meet and greet there. It was literally like anyone you could think of that has any sort of, carries any sort of weight in the modern history of the Canadian broadcasting
Starting point is 00:02:16 all came around to celebrate Toronto Mike. It's pretty awesome. I gotta say, one big takeaway that I got from it is that you had a guy called Basement Dweller that was on the show and you asked him what's his favorite episode of Toronto Mike and he said Stu Stone's episode was his favorite.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And he's listened to every single one. And that's a guy that listens to the show like That's like 550 episodes. Yeah, so if I'm the favorite guest then I must be doing something right around here and I better keep coming back. Wait, let's like think about that for a moment, okay? Think about the heavyweights who have come over.
Starting point is 00:02:48 It's huge. It's huge. He's not wrong, by the way. I mean the Molly Johnsons. The Gino Benelli. But this is a guy who's like a super, you know, he's a deep dive into your show, and his favorite episode is. Very bright fellow, too. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:03:05 So it's like, that was very... I took that, like, I was like, wow. And it was the first episode that you were on? He didn't get specific. Okay. Okay. But, you know, hopefully I'm not going to let him down. Yeah, no, that's huge.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Good for you. Thanks, man. Thanks. Cam, are you sad at all that, you know, he didn't see the Cam Gordon episode? No, that's okay. I mean, Stu's my lifelong pal, so if it couldn't be me then i'm glad to see stew take that if it wasn't for cam if it wasn't for cam's first appearance on the show i there would be okay to me for the record well all this is for the record but uh i even put this on the open mic today on toronto mic.com that the
Starting point is 00:03:40 only reason i learned uh stewstone exists is because Cam Gordon from Twitter Canada, may I say that? Cam Gordon from Twitter Canada came on. We had a great episode and he mentioned that he went to school with the guy from My Pet Monster Magic School Bus.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Donnie Darko. You're the most famous person I know. Big deal. I'm laughing with, I ran into you. You're the most famous person I know. Big deal. I'm laughing with you, not at you. So, okay, so why don't I do this right now? Since you enjoy the pasta from TMLX5. Oh, yeah, the free pasta.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Never mind. Wilner went back for seconds. Don't say that I told, but... Did Anthony give him a voucher? Or did he just go up to the counter and go, do you know who I am? He was throwing around his Wilner weight. But that's a magic moment
Starting point is 00:04:28 because I actually had already arranged a magic moment between Peter Gross and Mike Wilner. Because I knew Mike Wilner credits Peter Gross with launching his entire career. Yeah, I mean, Mike, I find the more guests you have on, the more connections you're able to make of
Starting point is 00:04:43 all these media greats. And yeah, I even think how, you know,, the more connections you're able to make of all these media greats. And yeah, I even think how, you know, you met Stu through me. I think also Sammy from The Watchmen. I met Sammy through The Watchmen. And then I imagine that parlayed into Danny. Correct. And then I believe you had both of them on at some point.
Starting point is 00:04:56 No. Like together, am I imagining that? We were supposed to, but Sammy was busy selling a condo or something. Gotcha. Doing a Gerstein. Well, it's a Brian Master. A Master, right. You're forgiven.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I had my big reunion with Brian Master at the event. Okay. So wait. So put a pin in that, Stu. More on that later. No, in a moment, like a millisecond. But I wanted to give you guys for coming all this way because to set the table here, we're going to play songs from musicians we've lost.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yes. In this past decade. Because, you know, we're usually like pretty good at, oh, the decade's ending. But I don't know what you guys. It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like a decade's ending. But it is. Like the calendar says it is.
Starting point is 00:05:38 2010 was like a blink ago. It's like insane. But do you think that's because of our age? Yes. Because there's not much difference between when you're 35 and 45. I feel like there's a big difference between 15 and 25. It feels like it's all just a big lump of adulthood.
Starting point is 00:05:51 It used to take longer. I think when we were building up to the end of the millennium, that was a real thing. Even 1989, I remember there was a lot of Berlin Wall stuff. The Scorpions. Or high school or grade school or whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:06 The 90s was like the wrestler of the 90s. Like everything was like... All right. So the... A meat lasagna for each of you to take home with you.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Oh, meat. A large meat. Well, you did tell Cam you want a meat, right? I do. Because you look surprised. It's meat. Mainly because of the meat,
Starting point is 00:06:20 you know. I do have a veggie upstairs if you want to... No, no. I want the meat. Okay. So you just get a meat lasagna from Palma. Thank you, Palma. Thank you, Pal veggie upstairs if you want to. No, no, I want the meat. Okay. So you just get a meat lasagna from Palma. Thank
Starting point is 00:06:26 you, Palma. Thank you, Palma. Palma Pasta for that. Delicious. You mentioned you reunited with Brian Master. I did. Tell us how that went. Well, I don't know, you know, I've been coming on this show now for all these times promoting this movie, Jack of All Trades, which today will probably be my last time mentioning it.
Starting point is 00:06:42 It's getting a little tired. Don't worry, it's on my agenda here. Don't worry. Okay. But, you know, in that movie we feature a lot of footage from my bar mitzvah, which is, for those that don't know, it's like a quinceanera for Jews. Someone doesn't know what that is. Even I, the most Gentile of Gentiles, know what a bar mitzvah is. It's like a coming of age. It's a coming of age where you become a man. And the DJ at my bar mitzvah was Brianrian master who was like i think he was the dj at chfi fm 98 at the time if i'm not mistaken yes do you know that he was the dj at gourd
Starting point is 00:07:10 stelic's wedding i didn't know that how and stew how did this happen did you have a connection well my mom was a big my mom listened to to him like that was sorry he's on chfi yes so she was my mom's favorite you know he had that silky smooth voice. Your mom probably fell in love with him when he was DJ at Chum FM. Yes, for sure. So she was a big fan of his. So I think that we went to great lengths to try to procure him for the venue. And this was before you could just email someone? Correct.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Like calling up the station? I mean, for all I know, my dad hung him up over the balcony by his ankles or something. Kind of a Suge Knight thing. That is a Suge Knight thing. That was Vanilla Ice, right? So who knows how it actually came to be. But when I went to see Brian, I was expecting this big, tearful reunion of like, Hey, Brian, remember me?
Starting point is 00:07:56 I'm the guy that you DJed my bar mitzvah. I don't think he cared about that. He's moved on from the event. But does he know who you are like does he realize it was just a gig it was a gig for these guys it might have been one of like a hundred bar mitzvahs that's what i'm saying it's another night for him but just that just went to show me like on my drive home not only was i thinking about basement dweller uh putting me over uh but i was also thinking about the fact that you know these people who are in the party service industry
Starting point is 00:08:23 that you know they're djing someone's bar mitzvah or wedding or whatever like they're it's just another night for them right the person who's evented is they're going to remember you for the rest of their life actually mike the the magen boys they'd be a great guest yeah who not i think you're friends with them i don't know if i've ever spoken to them you should have them on but who are they they're like the kings of bar mitzvahs they They've done probably like 20,000 parties. But also like wrestling promoters. They brought back belly buster subs.
Starting point is 00:08:51 They're very Toronto-centric. Do you remember when Brutus the Barber Beef Is this the Thornhill thing? Do you remember when Brutus the Barber Beef Cake showed up to Toronto City Hall when Rob Ford was mayor? With Iron Sheik. Yeah, with Iron Sheik. Those guys were behind it.
Starting point is 00:09:05 They did the Iron Sheik documentary on Netflix. Anyway, I don't know how we got on them. They do a lot of bar mitzvahs. My point is, to them, it's like they do 7,000 bar mitzvahs. How can they remember all of them? But the people whose party it is will remember exactly. So you gotta, you know. Well, that's like any celebrity, though.
Starting point is 00:09:21 You meet a celebrity, you'll never forget that day you bumped into whatever. I'll never forget bumping into todd stottlemeyer at the cne when he was walking with his his wife at the time but he'll never remember bumping into this this kid at the cne that day you know what i mean because he's done that a million times so i got the todd stottlemeyer kind of treatment from from master when i saw him you got stottlemeyer i got stottlemeyer because i was like hey okay so Brian! Okay, so on that, thank you for bringing up Brian Master
Starting point is 00:09:46 because now he's so, he can't remember your bar mitzvah because he's singularly focused on real estate. Bringing us all home. He's a real estate mogul now and he has a beautiful
Starting point is 00:09:56 business card. So I can only imagine that he has a beautiful business going. The email address you should write to if you want to get on his snail mail newsletter. Yes. Actually, it's if you want to get on his uh snail mail
Starting point is 00:10:06 newsletter yeah you actually it's kind of nice to get a piece of snail mail uh once a month telling me about that it's uh like different tips and yeah like yeah i value add the information you can use right it's important let's get you home at kw.com so write brian master right now tell him hey uh yes yes wow yeah yeah, you didn't know that? I didn't know that. Okay, yeah, I thought you were setting me up. No. Like a T-bone here.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So, yeah, I mean, I would say that you can write Brian and say, get me on your mailing list, and this is who Stu Stone is, and let Brian know whose bar mitzvah he bar mitzvahed. No, no, no, do not send Brian any of that correspondence. He does not need any of that. Okay, what beer are you drinking right now, Cam Gordon? I'm drinking the GLB. This is the Blonde Lager, the classic.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I think that's their kind of initial. Blonde Lager is what I call a 12-month beer, which is that it's always available. It's a great beer, my wife's favorite beer as well. And you're taking home a six-pack with you, buddy. Wow. Great Lakes beer. Fantastic. Holy smokes.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Just in time for the holidays. Yeah, I see. I want to get all the sponsor mentions off the top out of the way because except for Ridley Funeral Home, which would be as I remarked at TMLX5, an appropriate sponsor for what we're going to do, which is remember those we lost over this past decade. So it's going to get sad
Starting point is 00:11:22 people. In fact, I was going to put on my Santa hat because I wore it for Retro Ontario. Just to bring the mood up a bit? No, I was thinking, oh, my buddies are coming over. I'm in the spirit. I just did Christmas Crackers Volume 3 and I wore the hat.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And then I'm like, no, I can't wear the hat because it's not the appropriate content of the show. You can't be happy about any of this. No, I think that, you know, listen, time is really moving by very, very fast. And 10 years has gone by since 2010, which is absolutely crazy to me. I know.
Starting point is 00:11:52 But Cam has compiled a list of some of the artists. Well, Cam compiled a list. I added to the list and shuffled it a bit. There were some glaring omissions, Stu, that I will mention as we get there. It would be a 20-hour podcast if we covered everyone. Do you know we lost Stompin' Tom Connors this past decade?
Starting point is 00:12:14 I bring him up for a reason. He's not on Cam's list. He wasn't on Cam's list, actually. This is TTC Skedadler, but it's not the Stompin' Tom version. Let me bring down TTC Skedadler. I do have a stomp and tom uh song loaded up here what do we got here just a little stomp sort of like the johnny cash of canada right
Starting point is 00:12:34 uh no not at all that's a horrible i can't go with you on that one more like the Johnny Paycheck of Canada I'd say like he's more like a not a novelty act but like you know he'd be on the campus circuit I think you talked about this when Dave Bedini was over perhaps you know the fact that Bedini was instrumental in bringing him back
Starting point is 00:12:57 right we've been talking a lot about Stompin' Tom lately simply because there's a Stompin' Tom Christmas ornament giveaway okay this thing lights up and plays the Christmas song. It's very cool. If you go to whiskeyjackmusic.com and you click store at the top of the page, if you buy Duncan Fremlin's fine book, My Good Times of Stompin' Tom, or any of the Whiskey Jack Stompin' Tom CDs,
Starting point is 00:13:19 I was just playing TTC Skedaddler. That's from one of the CDs. You get an entry into this draw, and they draw the winner on December 15th, and then they express post the ornament to you the next day. So, Merry Christmas from Banjo Dunk
Starting point is 00:13:34 and Whiskey Jack. And yes, we did in fact lose a proud Canadian, an entertaining Canadian, Stompin' Tom Connors. What year was that? That must have been quite early in the decade I believe. I believe so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:48 The crazy part is I once spent a Saturday night in Sudbury and to his credit you know the girls were playing panko and the boys were getting
Starting point is 00:13:55 stinko or whatever he said. So it's accurate. It was accurate. Yeah. Alright. One more gift for you then we'll get rocking here. Toronto Mike stickers
Starting point is 00:14:02 from stickeru.com Sticker U, wow. Love it. Do you guys want to know where... This is like a high-quality sticker. Do you want to know where TMLX6 will take place? And I'm really hoping you both make it, because it's just awesome when I see you guys show up at a TMLX.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I'd love to know. Is it at sticker U? It's at sticker U. Holy shit. This guy is good. Wow. This guy is good. That's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Man. They have a Queen Street location. Is that where guy's good. That's fucking crazy. Man. They have a Queen Street location in your bathroom. Is that where it's going to be? Yeah. Wow, a Toronto Mike show that's actually in Toronto?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Great Lakes is in Toronto. Novel. Yeah. This is incredible. You know, Tobacco is part of Toronto now. I just want to I'm all about this.
Starting point is 00:14:39 GTA Mike. I was going to say, we've only had one outside of the Toronto borders. That was the last one at Palma's Kitchen. Which was delicious. So thank you, StickerU.
Starting point is 00:14:48 They just renewed for six months, and really that's the best news you can get. This is actually a really high-quality sticker. It's like vinyl or something. Yeah, this is great stuff. We got a few of these around the Twitter Canada office, Mike. I feel like I've sent you some photos of it, sort of in the environment. Oh, please do. I love it.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Please tweet me, because at Twitter Canada, I like to get the tweets. Totally. please do. I love it. Please tweet me because, you know, at Twitter Canada I like to get the tweets and I'll share for sure. Your documentary, Jack of All Trades, that kind of sparked a great conversation with you and Wilner at TMLX5
Starting point is 00:15:14 because Mike Wilner is the star of your documentary. He is. I say that jokingly. No, no, he is. He makes a cameo appearance. He downplays his appearance but it's a pretty important role
Starting point is 00:15:23 that he plays. It's not exactly like Jose Canseco no but you know just as handsome we need to know a few things one is this is the first time you've been on since people could go to Netflix in Canada and I've heard my buddy Elvis
Starting point is 00:15:36 did he get in touch with you I'm chatting with my buddy Elvis oh he did write me an email the very next day so he's at TMLX and he learns about this doc because you're sitting there. He should have already known if he had listened to Toronto Mike, he would have already known all about Jack of All Trades. And he streams it the next day, and he writes me this note
Starting point is 00:15:53 about how much he loved your document. He goes, how do I write this guy? And I said, here's the ad. Yeah, he did. I got his email. A very lovely email to get from him. How's it going? I mean, I've been getting lots of emails like that.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I'll tell you, it doesn't get old. It's pretty remarkable. Like I told you last time we spoke, I mean, it's truly like a life-changing type of thing. It was not only life-changing for me to go through the experience of what happens in the movie, but it was life-changing for me for, you know, how this movie has just grown
Starting point is 00:16:25 and snowballed into this sort of, I don't even know what to call it, but it's definitely surpassed any expectations that anybody could have ever set by a multiple of a million. It was the number one trending movie for six weeks in the United States over the summer. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And now in Canada, it came out a few weeks ago. It's been trending and, you know. So what's next? Like this must open some doors for you. The doors are wide open now. You're going to do the Sportsline documentary I've been asking for? You know, Hepsi, we keep making plans, but we never. I think I need to invite Cam to be a part of it.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah. Yeah. And then it'll happen. Sure. I can outbroker that. Cam actually. Let's do it at Twitter Canada's head office. That would be good. Sure. Absolutely. invite cam he was here today yeah yeah and then it'll happen sure i can broker that cam cam actually let's do it at twitter canada's uh head office that would be good sure absolutely the blue room but uh yeah i don't know what i've already shot another movie that i haven't told you about
Starting point is 00:17:15 yet i think maybe i told you a little bit about but you'll be the first place that i come to when it's time i'm honored do i i would like to think in my heart of hearts, maybe 0.0001% of this success of Jack of All Trades is because of Toronto Mike. I would give it more than that. More than that? Yeah, I would give it a couple more than that. I would say the average Toronto Mike listener, this is really in their sweet spot
Starting point is 00:17:38 because it hits a few beats. When you asked, hey, who has seen the movie Jack of All Trades? Like a bunch of people put their hands up. I promote that like you paid me to promote that. Let's put it that way. I need to get the Brian Master money and then I can. Maybe in 2020 we could find a spot to be here.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I'm holding the George Bell card. And because I'm going blind, I have to hold it like this now in order to actually read it. It's 87. Oh, that's the MVP season. And I got this because you cracked open a pack of 87. What were they? Donruss? Tops.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Tops, yeah. And I think what you're right about hitting the beats is you got the nostalgia. Yes. Nostalgia is so hot right now. Oh, yeah. I'm like the king of nostalgia. But, you know, I think I always describe it as he draws you in with the nostalgia
Starting point is 00:18:27 and then once he gets you and he hooks you with the nostalgia, we take a sharp turn and then it just gets you in the heart. There's a swerve. I also love the documentary just as someone who grew up in Toronto. I mean, it's great just to see
Starting point is 00:18:40 different parts of the city too, which I like. And I mean, a lot of, you know, part of it's in Thornhill too, where I grew up. So just seeing a lot of that was pretty cool. And just seeing what's in that plaza where Sluggers was, because I don't really get up there too often. It's like a pharmacy now.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yeah. I wonder if they've seen the movie. But no Cam Gordon cameo. I tried to get Cam. He's hard to get. Well, I remember when you put the open call for the bonfire scene, because I know some of our friends,
Starting point is 00:19:07 the Lonnie Schwartzes, the Jason Morrows, the big Rybowskis in there. Where was that scene? Where was that park? Funny story. We shot at Earl Bales Park. Okay. Did you have a permit?
Starting point is 00:19:21 Here's the funny part. We did have a permit, and when we got there there was like no one in the office so we just thought we were supposed to just set up wherever we want we didn't realize there's an actual burn pit really that's there and like that's where we were supposed to do the fire so the fire is actually just like some random spot in the middle of the park the fire department got called we got shut down really i had to go back with Rodness and like replant the grass. It's like a whole thing. But...
Starting point is 00:19:46 It's in the deleted scenes on the two DVD box at the Criterion version. Right. And there's like a hidden... You can unlock like Easter eggs in the DVD where you can listen to
Starting point is 00:19:57 Stew Stone on Toronto Mic. You could. Like an Easter egg or whatever. By the way, I interviewed Wilner for like... That was my first time meeting Wilner was interviewing him for that movie. since then i've used him in other projects uh i had a cbc series i used them i i try to get the kids show i watch i stumbled on that on cbc kids
Starting point is 00:20:16 so funny well i was gonna say he's also nude in cable roots much like you and myself too so let's talk sports yeah so cam and i had a show called overtime sports that came on after wilner's show i watched wilner's show on cable 10 yeah so we were on uh aaron something he was our lead in correct yeah that's mind-blowing to me and that's all before talk talk uh bubby's kitchen the sock was was key there too and at some point i don't think it was coming out of ottawa i guess but i do know we could see the Tom Green show. Yeah. Yeah. Like this would have been,
Starting point is 00:20:46 well, I remember specifically with this was fall of 92. Cause the Jays had just won their first world. And Harlan Williams is, uh, Ed, the socks co-host at that time. I still remember the station other than,
Starting point is 00:20:57 um, Newton cable. Yeah. It's Raina Lee Morrison. That's like first wife or girlfriend. Okay. Yeah. Wow. I might be speaking on a line here. Yeah. Yeah. I's first wife or girlfriend or something? Okay, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I might be speaking on a line here. Yeah, I don't want to go too deep on this, but we are on Wikipedia, Overtime Sports Talk. Oh my goodness. Yeah. I'm not even on... Toronto Mike does not on Wikipedia, but you work for Twitter, not Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Correct, correct. You can't help me. Gabby Finoose. Gabby Finoose. When do I get a verified Twitter account, Cam? Well, let's talk. I feel like we've had this conversation before. It's currently closed.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Currently closed. But you know what? I've decided it's punk to not be verified. Like, I've decided to, like, I'll use that. Are you guys, Twitter, is Twitter, like, part of Instagram? Are they guys allies? Are you guys enemies? No, Instagram's owned by Facebook.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Ah. Yeah, yeah. Mortal enemies. Yeah, I mean, we get questions a lot, you know, in competition with Facebook or Instagram. And, I mean, we get questions a lot, you know, in competition with Facebook or Instagram. And I mean, the reality is like millions of people are on all these platforms. And Twitter is just so different, I think, at this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:54 When the president of the United States is going to announce he's dropped the bomb, where do you think he's going to do it? Twitter. Instagram, Facebook. No, he's doing that on Twitter. And as far as the competition thing, just to go back full circle to the Megan boys and their bar mitzvahs, I think I actually said this to you last time I saw you, but I always ask them, like, hey,
Starting point is 00:22:12 oh, beautiful. He's the guy we lost. I didn't mean it. No, yeah, that's this, and I'm two steps ahead of you. We lost Nikolai Volkov. You have a photo with Nikolai, like you met him. I've hung out with him many times. He's from Baltimore, right? He's just the man. We'll talk about Nikolai in half a second, but I was going to say. I would say to the Megan boys, you have all these other people doing bar mitzvahs.
Starting point is 00:22:29 How is everybody friends with each other if you guys are in competition with each other? I don't get it. This guy's your competition. He's like, no, there's enough bar mitzvahs for everybody. That's like podcasting. Mike, you can't be producing Humble and Fred's podcast because there's a rival podcast.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I'm like, that's not how it works. There's enough bar mitzvahs for everybody. It's the rising tide lifts all boats. Gentlemen, I was tweeting about how you guys were coming in and we're going to commemorate musicians we lost over the past decade. And a gentleman named Andrew Ward wrote me
Starting point is 00:22:59 a note to say, hey, Stu Stone's a wrestling guy. There are wrestlers who passed away over the past decade who performed music. Yes. So I actually have loaded four songs. Okay. Well, this one I got right off the bat. So this is Volkov's version of this, right?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Correct. Yeah, I'll bring it up a bit. It's from the wrestling album. Yeah. Nikolai Volkov singing. Real 80s production, like kind of a drum machine. Yes. I actually love this song.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah, me too. It introduced me to this song. Yeah, me too. It introduced me to this song. Yeah. Cara mia bride. Must we say goodbye. It's quite beautiful. It's kind of sad. It's Cara mia, like that's his bride that like died or something?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Or they broke up or... Really? Cara mia bride, must we say goodbye. Maybe she died or something? Or they broke up? Really? Carabia bride, must we say goodbye? Maybe she died or something. Okay. Who sang the original? Do you have that information? Gino Vanelli. Was it Andy Kim? I think not. I want to say it was like
Starting point is 00:23:57 Little Anthony and the Imperials. Oh, this is where it gets fun too. Oh yeah, every song on this album has a fight at the end. The music, our show music, have class. it gets fun, too. Oh, yeah. Every song on this album has a fight at the end. Have class. The Eurasia music. The best song written ever. Get a hold of yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:10 The song that most people sing to anybody else. The Eurasia National Anthem. Oh, no. Listen to this. Yeah, it's coming. Oh, wow. There it is. Will you guys keep it down?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Oh, my God, I love this. Can I tell you my nostalgia nerves are tingling. This is an insult. Come on, this is an American album. Mean Gene passed away. It's next, my brother, okay? He's stealing all the thunder here. So, Stoon, tell us a quick Nikolai Volkov story.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Nikolai Volkov is a really, really great guy. The actual opposite of his tag team partner, the Iron Sheik, was also a good guy, but Iron Sheik was a wild, crazy rock star partying, and Nikolai never drank in his life and was the complete opposite of he was a legit strong man, barrel-chested, legit
Starting point is 00:25:00 tough guy. He was one of the first guys to foreign kind of legit guys that wasn't like a gimmick. Like a foreign menace. Where he main evented Madison Square Garden against Bruno Sammartino in the 70s. Okay. And he was part of WrestleMania 1. He won the tag team championships
Starting point is 00:25:16 managed by Classy Freddy Blassie. I consider him almost a friend. He had such a good sense of humor and a sweetheart and his whole thing was about being clean and eating clean and he would see what everyone was eating and talk yell at you if you're eating something and was he like a he was like a politician like baltimore or something after he ran for some kind of office i'm not sure what school trustee yeah i'm not sure but i just know that he was a really good guy and uh you know you got me and jean playing right now
Starting point is 00:25:44 singing tutti Frutti. One of the funniest, natural funniest personalities in the entertainment world in the 80s, let alone wrestling. But Mean Gene as a stick man, who's better than Mean Gene? Like, he's basically the Ron McClain of, I mean, some of the blooper reels on YouTube are just, and like, just trying to than Mean Gene? He's basically the Ron McClain of... Some of the blooper reels on YouTube
Starting point is 00:26:06 are just trying to break Mean Gene and Paul Orndorff or Mr. Fuji would be in his face. Gene just would not... He would never break. It's incredible. Of course, Gene also covered rock and roll Hoochie Coo, the Rick Derringer song,
Starting point is 00:26:21 on Piledriver, the wrestling hour. This is his 2D Fruity. I never could song on Piledriver, the wrestling album. This is his Tootie Fruity. I never could get into Piledriver because I liked this so much. I really like the wrestling album. It seemed to lose some of its charm. I have the wrestling album on vinyl. I recently acquired it. This song is on there.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Mean Gene Okerlund, man. He's a really funny guy. Oh, wow. Piper. Oh, right. Singing for everybody. Which I only found out like a year ago, this was like a cover. Oh, yeah. Fuck everybody. Fuck everyone. Yeah. Fuck everybody! By someone
Starting point is 00:26:53 knowing... Like a bar band from like... A gentleman with an Italian name and I can't remember it right now. Is it the same guy that sang like Shut Up A You Face? I don't think so. I don't know. Like it's sort of the original source
Starting point is 00:27:07 sounds like almost like the Jay Giles band or something like that. Like that's kind of like raunchy kind of bar band vibe. There's another guy we lost, Jay Giles.
Starting point is 00:27:15 We did. Well, I was going to say Doug Bennett too. I always think of That's not this decade though. Was Doug Bennett Is that pre-09? That's
Starting point is 00:27:23 that off the track. Will someone go to the I believe so but somebody go to the... Does anyone have a device with Google on it? I'll check it. While you're doing that, let's just talk about Roddy Piper for a second. I once worked with Roddy Roddy Piper and Ric Flair on a pilot show that never got picked up, but I got to spend some really quality time with Roddy Piper picking his brain.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It was like a dream. I got to ask him anything you could possibly want to ask him. And he was like, in real life, he reminded me of Clint Eastwood. The way he was like, very much chocolate. In real life. He was my favorite. Roddy Piper was my favorite wrestler of all time.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And he was Canadian. He was from Saskatchewan. He was born on a, I believe like a native. He came up with the Hart family. It sounds like he's swearing. I know it does sound like it, but he's saying for everybody. He's not swearing.
Starting point is 00:28:13 But he came up, along with Nikolai Volkov and Iron Sheik, they also came through Calgary and went through Stu Hart. Is that like a stampede wrestling? Stampede wrestling, yeah. And him and Bret Hart were pretty tight, if I recall.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah. But we also, they didn't say any songs, I don't have them loaded up, but we lost a British Bulldog this past decade. That was this decade? Maybe about a year ago.
Starting point is 00:28:33 One of the British Bulldogs. Oh, Dynamite Kid, yeah. Jim Neidhart left us. Rene Goulet recently passed. Really? A few days ago. Okay. Frenchman.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Not the wrestling album. Macho Man Randy Savage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, Mike, Doug Bennett was 2004. Correct again. Put that down. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Okay. This is Macho Man Randy Savage Disrap on Hulk Hogan I like how he rhymes scared with heard. You just have to make it like scurred. I will say this. It's just so funny that like, if you're angry at somebody, the best way to like come at them is like, write a poem and say it to them.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Like some of these lines, like I'm going to, you're at the end of your rope. I'm going to kick your butt. Wash your mouth out with soap. Yeah. Like put up your dukes, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:03 like this is not cat threatening. And he makes fun of, I know there's a line, it might be coming up, where he makes fun of Hulk Hogan's acting career because he talks about his starring role in Spider-Man. Right. As far as wrestling songs go, this is not as bad as you would think it could be.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Like Hulk Hogan has released some albums that are really awful. This is not that bad. But Macho Man, Randy Savage, again, the stars that we grew up with, I guess we Randy Savage, again, the stars that we grew up with, I guess we're just lucky guys, but the stars we grew up with, Rowdy Roddy, Piper, Mean Gene, Volkov, and all these guys you're playing,
Starting point is 00:30:32 Randy Savage transcended pro wrestling into pop culture. He was a household name. Everybody does a Randy Savage impression, you know? Oh, yeah! It's crazy how he died.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I believe he had a heart attack while he was driving. Randy Poffo, right? And he was a cousin of Leaping Lenny's brother. Leaping Lenny's still with us. Yes. The poet laureate of the... Right. Unknown fun fact,
Starting point is 00:31:03 Macho Man Randy Savage and the Leaping Lanny Poffo Jewish I think that's more than a fun fact did Brian Master did he host the
Starting point is 00:31:13 he did their bar mitzvah Brian Master did their bar mitzvah so yeah those were wondering Macho Man was probably also a
Starting point is 00:31:21 Macho Mensch okay very good he may have pronounced Macho Macho but in I did learn that, you know, you don't have to be Jewish to be a mensch. No, you are a mensch.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Thank you. Yes. A mensch is a gentleman. Even us Gentiles can be mensch. Yes. Fantastic. All right. Now, here's what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:31:36 So before we get into the core here, I'm going to breeze through a few, especially one that happened very recently. These are just a few I'm going to... We're just going to run through a few. Like this was like yesterday. It was this week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:46 This week. Roxette died. Roxette. Well, the female singer in Marne. I didn't know that. Wow. Her name is Marie Frederick son.
Starting point is 00:31:58 That is a Swedish name. And Marie Fredrickson had a battle, long battle with cancer. And it took her far too early she died this week I mean this song you got the look right she's got the look
Starting point is 00:32:09 it must have been love from the Pretty Woman soundtrack huge smash listen to your heart listen to your all big top 40 hits there's another one too
Starting point is 00:32:16 there's a song called Joyride Joyride was a big hit too to me there was a band that came after them that I always thought like kind of Savage Garden
Starting point is 00:32:23 Savage Garden kind of stole this song. Scandinavia has like a hit machine. Like there's literally like people just pumping out pop songs. I think ABBA started this. I don't know. Savage Garden sounds exactly like Roxette. Same kind of catchy top 40 friendly sound.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I had this cassette. Look Sharp was the name of the album. Absolutely. Wow. Gone this cassette. Yeah. Look Sharp was the name of the album. Absolutely. Wow. Gone too soon. Yeah. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:32:51 I've been asleep at the wheel. See, I think Stu's going to learn about a lot of deaths this episode. I was thinking this was Billy Joel for a second,
Starting point is 00:32:58 but. No, that would be a monster, a monster death that Billy Joel leaves us. Wow. When did this happen? I'm going to say earlier this year.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah. The money man. A few months ago, maybe. Wow. Two tickets to paradise and all that. He's got Eddie Money and Eddie Murray. And then there was two Eddie Murrays. The first baseman.
Starting point is 00:33:20 But there was an NFL player, a kicker, I believe, who was Canadian. And then there's Eddie Murphy. Does Eddie and the Cruisers have anything to do with this guy? No. Neither does Fast Eddie. But yeah, we lost him. This is the pre-show, if you will. We're going to just commemorate a few...
Starting point is 00:33:35 Honorable mentions. But Eddie Money, big deal. I mean, I grew up... The big hit when I remember on Top 10 of 10 on Q107 was... Take me home tonight. Oh, that was a... I think that was in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, maybe. Or am I confusing it with Joe Jackson?
Starting point is 00:33:50 Is she really going out? Maybe they were both in there. I can't remember. But the John I'm thinking of is... Do you guys remember a song, Walk on Water? Yeah, of course. Yeah, which she apparently hated. If I could walk on water.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Would you believe in me? My love is true. That's like 1987 or something. That was like his comeback, I believe. Well, that was that era we've talked about where A&Rs were just rehashing anything that worked in the 70s. Well, the best example was, of course, and even earlier, because the big comeback by Roy Orbison. Who saw that coming? Like this guy.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Well, that's because of Pretty Woman. You think so? For sure. No, no, no. What do you mean? Like this guy. Well, that's because of Pretty Woman. You think so? For sure. No, no, no. The movie Pretty Woman went to number one. No way. No way. Pretty Woman came out. That song recharted just like Twist and Shout recharted when Ferris Bueller came. I'm telling you. Dude, you're out of line. You're at the end of your rope.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Cam versus Stu, part two. You got it. Anything at all. Like you're talking you got it mystery girl traveling Wilburys that's after pretty woman no that was like fucking two years before
Starting point is 00:34:50 no way shut your mouth when was handle with care you've got the google device you find out when handle with care is let me just give credit to Jeff Lynn
Starting point is 00:34:58 right Jeff Lynn isn't he the guy in the mix there doing the new doing the Roy Orbison and another guy
Starting point is 00:35:04 will listen to it a bit he also produced that Beatles track that came out in the mix there doing the new doing the Roy Orbison and another guy will listen to it a bit he also produced that Beatles track that came out in the 90s oh you know Free as a Bird oh I thought you
Starting point is 00:35:10 were gonna say I got my mind set on which by the way is a cover I think we don't listen to all the Snooze Stoves
Starting point is 00:35:18 don't do the same show over and over again yeah like Mystery Girl the album the aforementioned Roy Orbison album
Starting point is 00:35:24 came out in 1989. Oh, really? When did Pretty Woman come out? About the same. Maybe 1990, though. I think you're going to owe me an apology. I love that we're finally fact-checking in real time, so we don't have to correct later. Yeah, 1990 film.
Starting point is 00:35:38 No, no, no, no. Don't check your facts. I'm with Cam. He's making that up. He's putting his phone away. No. We need to move on. He's lying.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I'm with Cam. Team's making that up. He's putting his phone away. No. We need to move on. He's lying. I'm with Cam. Team Cam. Hey, Siri. What year did Pretty Woman come out? 1990. I remember. No way. Dude, I'm older than you guys.
Starting point is 00:35:55 March 23rd, 1990. Okay, fine. But it had to be shot in 89. They had to know. It was in the same time. Yes. Bang those heads, boys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Let me. It was in the same time, yes. Bang those heads, boys. Lemmy. So we lost Lemmy from Motorhead. Okay, here's something interesting I noticed on the way over. Because I was just telling someone that was coming on. If you type Motorhead into a text message, it'll actually autocorrect and put the umlaut on it. Nice. Does that work for Motley Crue? It probably does. If someone's doing that for Motley Crue,
Starting point is 00:36:30 who's going on tour after signing contracts saying they will never tour again. Did you guys see The Dirt? I think it was called on Netflix. No, I haven't caught that yet. The book's apparently fantastic. I'll tell you, Lemmy, though, was a regular at the Rainbow Room in Los Angeles on Sunset.
Starting point is 00:36:47 You could always run into Lemmy there. Obviously, he's passed away, so not anymore. He had his own seat in the corner. Also, he was a big fixture in the wrestling world, tying it back to wrestling again. He did the theme song for Triple H. Oh, shit. He did both of Triple H's theme songs and Evolution's theme song. Whoa, whoa, whoa. He did both of Triple H's theme songs and Evolution's theme song.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Here's Evolution! That's like a tag team? No, it was like Randy Orton, Ric Flair. It was like a stable with Randy Orton, Ric Flair, Batista, and Triple H. Like kind of the old guys and the young guys. Yeah. Okay. That's a good group.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Lou Reed. Wasn't on Cam's list, apparently. He was like a narrow mess. It's actually not Lou Reed. Oh, this Fife Dog? Wow. Big Swerve. But this is an intentional Swerve.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I like to do this because he will show up for Sammy. I mean, Tribe Called Quest might be the greatest rap duo in the history of the business. I mean, Run DMC probably gives them a run for their money, but geez, man. How prolific is Tribe Called Quest? Yeah, Low End Theory, for example, one of the greatest hip-hop albums of all time. It's just like the cool factor. The reason why I kind of put them a little bit ahead of Run DMC, even though from a historical standpoint, there'd be no anything without Run DMC.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I think it's more than a little bit. I mean, in terms of the quality of the music. I think it stands the test of time. This music is still cool. It's still dope. It still holds up. It's the jazz tip, man. Q-Tip was ahead of his time with his production.
Starting point is 00:38:13 You know, he produced a lot of these songs, Q-Tip. And of course, Fife Dog, underappreciated member of the two because everyone loves Q-Tip. Are you guys big De La Soul fans? Because I feel like they sort of did De La Soul, but like 20% better. Like just really kind of took it to like where it's iconic.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Tribe Called Quest is probably, you know... And the first rap song my 18-year-old ever loved was Scenario. Yeah, it's great. But to call... You know, there's a lot of hip-hop from that era that is timeless. And you'd be hard-pressed to find a Tribe Called Quest song that isn't timeless from this era. Unbelievable. There's a good mashup of this song and Danny Brown Grow Up on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:38:56 That's a lot of fun. They actually put the videos together. Diabetes, by the way, is what took him. And if you watch the Tribe Called Quest documentary, they had a very tumultuous relationship. Excellent document. I'm going to give a shout out to that. So after you finish watching Jack of All Trades, check out the Tribe Called Quest documentary.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah, they didn't get along at all. No. A lot of jealousy and rivalry, and that's what happens. I mean, look at me and Jamie Kennedy. Sure, of course. Same thing. When was the last time you talked to Jamie Kennedy? No, no, we're friends now.
Starting point is 00:39:24 But you have that period where you start... Ah, yeah, Ric Ocasek. Actually both, right? Ben Oyer also died this decade, right? That's right, yeah. And a lot of the bigger hits were actually Ben Oyer vocals. Yeah. Well, the 70s ones anyway.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Even 80s, like... Eh. Who's Gonna Drive You Home? Yeah, Drive Is... Yeah, that's the only one that's not. What year is that? That's this album. It's like 84.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Early 80s, right? Yeah, like 83, 84. You might think I'm foolish in this. Oh, you might think, because that video was in our sweet spot. But also, Rick Ocasek, responsible for Weezer. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:03 That's right. Basically, Weezer was just like the cars. If you really listen to it, it's the cars. Right, right. I feel like a lot of the obituaries mention his sort of punk roots, like that he produced some stuff for like Bad Brains. Not a Serb. That's right.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I'm popular. Yeah, that was Rico Kasich's song. Can you name a second Not a Serb song? No, but they've been around. They still do. I don't know. That popular is a great jam and I always put it in
Starting point is 00:40:28 that kind of reminds me of Weezer Come Undone, the sweater song with the chatter at the beginning. Mud talking, yeah. It was the same producer so that's why.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Yeah, totally. Maybe even Suicidal Tendencies. Just want a Pepsi. Right. Like you hear the chatter. All I want is a Pepsi. All I want is a Pepsi. But yeah, so Rick the chatter. All I wanted was a Pepsi. Yeah. All I wanted was a Pepsi.
Starting point is 00:40:46 But yeah, so we lost, the car is influential. Yeah, I never got to see them live. Yeah. Hold on. I played at the El Macombo once.
Starting point is 00:40:54 There's a live album as our friend Mark Weisblot shared, I believe, on Twitter. Hey, a toast to Mark Weisblot. What do you guys think
Starting point is 00:41:00 of the 1236 episodes of Toronto Mike? Now, Stu's in a tough spot. He's probably never listened to one. I listened to them the day they come out. They're fantastic. And I know both you guys think of the 1236 episodes of Toronto Mike now Stu's in a tough spot he's probably never listened to one I listen to them the day they come out they're they're fantastic and uh I know both you guys and acquire taste though right those who like those episodes pounce on them and worship them and then there's some people who just skip them and don't you know what I mean because uh they're like what's this 1236 two and a half hour thing I need to invest in but meanwhile if you
Starting point is 00:41:21 ever did and Stu I mean looking at you brother at you, brother, if you actually said, here, I'm going to give two and a half hours to one of these monthly 1236 episodes, you'd be like, oh my God, it's like, hook it to my vein.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Well, you did like five minutes on, was it Leon Redbone, the guy who sang Mr. Belvedere's theme song passed away and like his ties to the Yorkville,
Starting point is 00:41:39 or Yorkville scene. It's just like a deep dive show. Yeah. It's intense. If you're into anything, all this, like basically,
Starting point is 00:41:46 if you're into this, this minutia of this Toronto, the fabric of the city, what we're trying to do on Toronto Mic'd, that's sort of like the flagship episode of the month you need to clue into. Like, you know that the Mad Hatter?
Starting point is 00:41:57 Of course, I had my birthday party there. Yeah. My dad's store was next door to it. Yeah, like Mark, Mark can do a deep dive on kind of the whole history. I want to do a documentary on the Mad Hatter.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Yeah. There's a really good, I think it was in iWeekly about it. Yeah, I saw the article. And the guy sells like refurbished like lofts in Buffalo now. Harry Stinson, I think is his name. Kids used to go there and like beat the shit out of each other. Stu, have you ever met Ed Conroy from Retro Ontario? Uh-uh. Because he's like, he makes documentaries about stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And I'm thinking you two need to meet. I'd love to. I'd love to meet him. As a matter of fact, Cam told me that he heard him on the show recently mention, what was it? Georgie Animal Steel? And his wrestling figure? Yeah, like right off the top yesterday, you guys were talking. Because we said that George, the politician, George...
Starting point is 00:42:40 Oh, George Smitherman. Smitherman looked like Georgie Animal Steel. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. I was going to point like George Animal Steel. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. I was going to point to the camera that's not turned on. I brought the George the Animal Steel LJN action figure. Hey, can you make sure I get a photo, like a selfie with this guy before you leave?
Starting point is 00:42:54 The tongue is colored and everything. I was going to say, do you have a pink tongue? A green tongue. Green tongue. From the Clorets. Wait, this is a death too? Stu's out of touch. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Jesus hangs behind the glass This is not on your list. I told you I... I added, in fact, I've added a bunch of... I wasn't going to let this episode pass without playing some spirit of the West. Venice is sinking. Why did he die?
Starting point is 00:43:32 Alzheimer's. Really? So young, though. Well, he's 57, yeah, but I think this is what I've been educated to, that it can take you... Early onset can take you as a young man or a woman. And, Mike, I think you mentioned on another podcast,
Starting point is 00:43:46 I think you're right, that this was all happening sort of concurrently with Gord Downie, kind of, unless maybe you were in Vancouver. I mean, if you're sort of paying attention, you'd know that this was happening because he had sort of the farewell tours and whatnot. It's sad, man.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Yeah, there's a documentary about this. You're right, I did say this on an episode with Mark Weisblatt. Without a doubt, the farewell tour to John Mann and the Spirit of the West definitely got overshadowed
Starting point is 00:44:11 by the fact that we were also saying goodbye to Gord Downie and the Tragically Hip at the same time. Three great Canadian bands wrapped it up that year. Tragically Hip,
Starting point is 00:44:19 Spirit of the West and Rush. Yeah, well, they might be back. Yeah, of the three bands, that's the band that might come back. Safe to say. Yeah, well, they might be back. Yeah, they're one of the three bands that's the band that might come back. Safe to say. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:29 Tragically Hip, obviously Rush is number one, but Tragically Hip, their popularity in Canada is mind-blowing compared to their popularity outside of Canada. It's like, there's never been a more just-embraced-in-Canada band than that. And I think that Spirit of the
Starting point is 00:44:46 West is sort of in that same ballpark, but obviously it's like, you know. Oh, but we can go forever on the bands that are massive here. I mean, I'm going to see Sloan next week, okay? But that's different. Tragically, it was playing arenas here. They could sell out the Air Canada Center. Like 300-person clubs, like in
Starting point is 00:45:02 D.C. Arena tours, Dave, they could probably play the Sky Dome if they wanted to. You know, it's like. I think probably the closest band to that kind of like discordant would be Blue Rodeo, who I don't think ever really did anything in the States. I could be wrong. I don't think like to try chart at all. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I don't know. I always thought Blue Rodeo was just marketed differently. Oh, baby, you try. You must have reached out to Jim Cuddy. Don't tell me I'm wrong. Get another hit, too, though. Oh, they had plenty of hits. No, no, like that one.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Like, hold on. From Outskirts? No, no. Because Outskirts is that album. I think it's 87. Rose-colored glasses. But that's later. Like, Outskirts, I believe, only had the one monster hit.
Starting point is 00:45:41 But Diamond Mine was a big hit here in Canada. Lost Together. Nearly lost. Lost Together. Lost Together is a big one. but diamond mine was a big hit here in canada uh lost together lost together is a big one definitely that's a big one we are no i love i love i mean i love beautiful love yeah okay but guys nobody passed away from uh blue rodeo so stay focused here guys so i would say we're not in we're no longer in uh honorable mentions we haven't even started the list like i'm just bummed and And actually, Georgie Animal Steel died this decade too. He did.
Starting point is 00:46:07 This is like, fuck. I'm going to leave. Why did you pick this topic? I don't know. Yeah, who picked this topic? Celebration of life. Whitney Houston. Okay, so this is the top 10.
Starting point is 00:46:17 And by the way, I don't know what's coming at me, so I'm trying to impress you with that I can just name all these songs within one second of every song we play. Actually, we're in top 12, okay?
Starting point is 00:46:25 This is number 12. I feel like everyone that we've played so far has a documentary about them. Including me. Do you know where you could see the Spirit of the West documentary? Is that on Crave? I know I'm putting it on smart here. I don't know. I've heard great things and I haven't actually seen it. I need to watch this
Starting point is 00:46:41 Spirit of the West documentary. Whitney Houston, probably of our era. She's probably the most prolific vocalist of our generation. You know, Linda Ronstadt, probably the generation before us. Or Barbra Streisand or one of those. But you got Whitney Houston was the singer of all singers. Yeah, pre-Mariah Carey. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I was going to say like Mariah Carey, I feel like. That's the 90s. Whitney was like. And it's also. Wow. I was going to say, like, Mariah Carey, I feel like. That's the 90s. Whitney was like, and it's also, it just goes to show you that, like, image. I will say this. When our friend Whitney breaks, it's probably, like, 87 when she breaks. And then Whitney's, I mean, sorry, Mariah's probably breaking in, like, 89, 90. Like, we're only at two or three years. Like, Whitney was, like.
Starting point is 00:47:19 She seemed like forever back then. Yeah. You know what I mean? 1984 to 1987 is a huge jump. But now, 2010 to 2020 is a blink. My point is, the marketing machine behind Whitney Houston has her pegged as this beautiful, innocent girl next door. She's probably in church on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And in reality, that was not even close to the case. That might have been the case until she hooked up with Bobby Brown. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. I remember, I don't know if you guys remember this. This was like the MTV Video Awards one year
Starting point is 00:47:50 right after Bobby Brown got out of jail and they presented it as sort of the big surprise and that seemed like that was a big turning point because she seemed sort of, this was probably like 94 or so. Yeah, she seemed out of it.
Starting point is 00:48:02 She seemed out of it. He seemed like he'd rather be anywhere else. He's just like, I don't care. They were giving like Best Grunge Album or so. Yeah, she seemed out of it. She seemed out of it. He seemed like he'd rather be anywhere else. He's just like, I don't care. They were giving like Best Grunge album or something. Well, I think also her music, her second album wasn't as big as the first album. No, I think it was massive though. I think the first was called Whitney Houston and the second was called Whitney
Starting point is 00:48:18 and I think they both were massive albums. But I know that like from watching her documentary, I think but like the bodyguard is the thing that really brought her back from, put her back on the map, that movie with Kevin Costner, I Will Always Love You. I remember her singing the national anthem at the Super Bowl. I think in 91, it was sort of the Gulf War.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Here's America's sweetheart. She's sort of tearing up a little. She's got a great voice. But I'll say that I Will Always Love You might be the most successful cover song of all time. Oh, that's a great question. Yeah, maybe. It had to be number one for like a year. Even more than Girls Just Want to Have Fun.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I mean, it was like number one forever. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, it was like number one forever. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think now. I want to think real quickly off the top of my head. Has there been a cover song even close to I Will Always Love You? I doubt it. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I'll get back to you in a moment here. I don't think. Oh, no. I was going to say the Fugees. You won't hear too many people be able to cover Whitney Houston either because, you know, who can sing like Whitney Houston? Many an American Idol contestant has attempted to do.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Did Weird Al ever do a version of Whitney Houston? I don't know, but I know that the best cover of Whitney Houston, in my opinion, which is also, I think, a cover, but Sexual Chocolates, I Believe the Children Are Our Future in Coming to America. Don't know that one.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yes, you do. What do you mean? I don't think I've ever thought. You ever watch Coming to America? No, I don't think I've thought. With Arsenio Hall? I know what it is. You have to watch that movie.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Not a movie, guys. And Darth Vader? Oh, my God. Yeah. How the hell? He only watches documentaries. Yeah. You've never seen Coming to America?
Starting point is 00:50:03 I don't think I have. Cam, have you ever seen Star Wars? What? What is happening? Probably not. I've been in the room when it's been on. I don't know if I've
Starting point is 00:50:11 watched it. It's a party. Think of it. How many guys his age can say, how many guys born in Western culture his age can say they've never seen Star Wars?
Starting point is 00:50:19 I'm disgusted by him. Okay. I mean, I don't, I'm not disgusted by you, Cam, to each his own, but I'm surprised you escaped childhood without being at a, I mean, I don't, I'm not disgusted by you, Cam, to each his own, but I'm surprised you escaped childhood without being at a birthday party. Maybe I did.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Where they made you watch Star Wars. You don't know Star Wars? I am aware of what Star Wars is. Chewbacca, R2-D2. Because you live in this pop culture universe. The Ewoks, Ewok Force. Yeah, from Return of the Jedi. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:42 You could have just lied and said you saw it because your knowledge is pretty good. Just a perfect day. Let pretty good. Let's chill. Let's chill. Yeah. Wow. Is this on your list? No. Pick us a bonus.
Starting point is 00:51:04 We're giving this Because A He's a fantastic musician We lost in the past decade And B Because friend FOTM Sammy Cohn From the Watchmen
Starting point is 00:51:12 Who I wanted to phone Right now actually He's a beautiful song Yeah It is And it's used very effectively In train spotting Absolutely
Starting point is 00:51:20 People always associate him with You know Wild thing Well Velvet Underground Yeah But I'm saying like Not this Absolutely. People always associate him with, you know, wild things. Well, Velvet Underground. Yeah. But I'm saying, like, not this. This is awesome. This is a very, like, simple song, too.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Like, I think that's part of why it's so great. I love it. But you could, if I played Heroin, for example, by Velvet Underground, we'd be thinking the same thing. A lot of these Velvet Underground songs were just ahead of their time. Those songs hold up. They almost sound like they're from... I feel like...
Starting point is 00:51:59 Hey Babe, Take a Walk on the Wild Side, was that not a hit again in the late 80s and early 90s? Like Marky Mark did a cover of it. I think he updated some of the lyrics, probably referencing whatever was popular at that time. I don't know. And it's fair to say that's probably Lou Reed's biggest hit. Sure.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Right. Wow, this is beautiful. I haven't heard this song in forever. I forgot about it. He just sounds so you know, the vocals are just so heart-wrenching. They're just so honest. The performance
Starting point is 00:52:32 is very not contrived. It's restrained too, like Cam said. It's very simple. And honest. Very raw. And beautiful as all hell. I love it. Yeah, Sammy's a big Lou Reed guy. That's really...
Starting point is 00:52:48 Now, I almost played Sunday Morning. There's a song I quite enjoy from Velvet Underground, but there's so many... I'd love to hear some of it. I don't have it loaded up right now. We have to get through...
Starting point is 00:52:57 A hundred songs? Yeah, remember. Lou Reed, man. You want to talk about cool, this guy was injected cool. He just oozed coolness. You just looked at him and you're just like, okay, the definition of cool is Lou Reed. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:11 Absolutely. But how eloquent. Listen to how the vocals. You're going to reap just what you sow. I can kind of hear so much influence from other artists from just this. Like Tom York, Radiohead. It sounds like Radiohead. Doesn't it? Totally.
Starting point is 00:53:37 A lot like Leonard Cohen, too. I'm going to download this. How old was Lou Reed? You're going to read just what you saw. How old was Lou Reed? Not old enough, like early 60s? No, like he was close to 70. Because Velvet Underground came around like in 66, 67. It's interesting, man.
Starting point is 00:54:02 All these guys, they talked about it and they lived it. You know, that's a whole different era. Like the drugs kids use now it's like doesn't even touch the drugs that they were doing back then and they still managed to do all this productive amazing work it's crazy like uh well the man steady freddie yeah but he didn't pass i was gonna say freddie didn't pass away this day david Bowie did, though. I remember waking up to the news, and I was probably listening to Humble and Fred on 102.1, but I remember they said,
Starting point is 00:54:30 the Argos are Grey Cup champions. And I remember hearing, the Argos had won the night before or something, the Grey Cup. And then they said, and one of the songs they would have been celebrating with was We Are the Champions.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And Freddie Mercury passed away yesterday. And I remember like this distinctly listening to this news and going oh my god like Freddie's gone. It's kind of like poor taste that segway. Yeah but that was
Starting point is 00:54:53 that really happened. And you know poor taste but maybe not. It depends on the I fucking love this song. But we're not playing it for Freddie.
Starting point is 00:55:00 We're playing it for David Bowie. I mean you don't have to you could throw a stick and hit a hundred artists it for David Bowie. I mean, you don't have to, you could throw a stick and hit a hundred artists that David Bowie influenced. I mean, this guy was, you know, he kicked down closet doors, no pun intended, for people to sort of be expressive
Starting point is 00:55:16 in however weird you are, be you. Ziggy Stardust. Oh, yeah. And, you know, I know he worked a lot with that producer from Le Chic. What's his name? Nile Rodgers. Nile Rodgers. They did a lot of stuff in the 80s to sort of revive David Bowie's pop career with Let's Dance and that amazing album.
Starting point is 00:55:37 They moved over to Trent Reznor. He was doing stuff with him. He was always ahead of his time. I remember the Trent Reznor stuff. I'm afraid of America. Right. Yeah. Little wonder.
Starting point is 00:55:47 You little wonder you. I remember he would constantly like reinvent himself. Yeah. Well, that was the thing. And of course, you know, Space Oddity and Life on Mars. I mean, the guy has just
Starting point is 00:55:59 unbelievable catalog. I don't know if this is like a concert movie, but he did like, I think it was his 50th birthday concert at Madison Square Gardens in the mid-90s and like everyone was there, like the Foo Fighters, he had Frank Black
Starting point is 00:56:12 and I think Lou Reed was there. Iggy Pop, I believe. Just like this cavalcade of just like heavy hitters and just kind of the range he had. We're getting all quiet. Some of the funny, he also did a lot of really cool duets in this era
Starting point is 00:56:26 well don't tell me about the Mick Jagger duet I find it cringy even at the time when I was young I thought it was cringy he still did it here we are
Starting point is 00:56:37 shitting all over Stu's memories of the man well I was just saying he did prolific duets because you know Mick Jagger and David Bowie
Starting point is 00:56:43 there's also all sorts of rumors that sparked about the two of them back then. The Cots. And that predates the internet. When rumors like that are getting to Thornhill, there's a lot of legs to those rumors. Of course. I can name all those rumors. One involved a certain actor in a gerbil.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Richard Gere. I'm sure we all know the hot dog and a certain actress from the Halloween franchise. No, that's a lot of rumors. That was a joke. Steve Simmons, son's friend, swears he saw Castle eating hot dogs. Jamie Lee Curtis you're talking about. That's correct. I was trying not to spread the rumor because it's...
Starting point is 00:57:18 Remember that song? Look at all these rumors. Yeah. Hear that one about Tina. I do remember that. Sounds like ahead of its time. The Timex Social Club. Yeah. Hear that one about Tina. I do remember that. Sounds like ahead of its time. The Timex Social Club. Totally.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Okay, big finish, gentlemen. And then Vanilla Ice has the goal to be like, no, no, mine is da, da-da-da-da-da. That's right. Speaking of Suge Knight, I think we talked about him earlier. Gotta love David Bowie, man. How is this? Like, we're only on number 11.
Starting point is 00:57:55 There's 10 people more prolific than Whitney Houston and David Bowie? What the fuck? I gotta say, it was not prolific. Did you hit shuffle? Well, these are no particular order. It's not prolific. It is in a Toronto Mike-centric order. I will be honest.
Starting point is 00:58:08 It really is my order. He's got Whitney Houston and David Bowie not in the top ten. So who's ahead? And Lou Reed. Who's ahead of them? The Cranberries. Okay. This was a shock when she left us. This is one of the all-time 90s, like, soundtrack songs.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Like, a lot of, like, movie trailers. 100%. It was on, like, every other movie trailer. Boys on the Side. Was that a movie? Yeah, with Drew Barrymore. Yeah. Was that a movie?
Starting point is 00:58:38 What's her name? Dolores O'Riordan. That's right. She had a Toronto connection. Had, like, a cottage somewhere, like, near Peterborough. I was told and she had a Toronto connection had like a cottage somewhere like near Peterborough I was told she had children
Starting point is 00:58:47 who went to school in like Mississauga like I think she might have married a Toronto guy and she had real estate somewhere in the
Starting point is 00:58:55 Toronto vicinity but of course she's Irish but tragic because she takes her own life and just the saddest thing was she in like a hotel room?
Starting point is 00:59:06 I think there was like alcohol nearby. I don't know, but I can say to give my little spiel on her, in that era of the grunge era, there wasn't too many successful acts that had like
Starting point is 00:59:22 female front people. Garbage? Well, Garbage came after Cranberries, right? I'm saying that she, you know, there was a hole with Courtney Love, but. Yeah. My gal Biff Naked was out there. Right, right. But I'm saying, you know. You know, you're totally right.
Starting point is 00:59:36 No disrespect to Biff Naked, but I'm saying, you know. Kim Gordon was in the. Kim Gordon. She's not the lead singer, though. She was like the bass player. I think Lizair was around. None of them reached the success and the heights of the Cranberries is my point. So she kind of broke the mold for commercial success, I would say.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Well, I was Holly McNarland. In a boys club. You're naming all these acts that... Listen, you put Whitney Houston and David Bowie behind the Cranberries. Yeah, because it's a Toronto Mike-centric order. I've shuffled Cam's order. So when I'm trying to put Cranberries importance over Tara Sloan. I'll say this about the Cranberries.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And I remember our friend Richard Chang was a huge fan of the song Zombie. Big fan of the Berries. Amazing song, Zombie. Absolutely. Some band covered it recently, like a hard rock. That's right, yes. I don't know what they're called, but it's like Disturbed type of thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:32 But not Disturbed. A couple things about this song. But this is such an uplifting song. Seether, something like that. Seether was great, too. Seether is. I thought you were going to say Veruca Salt. Actually, the band is named after the song by Veruca Salt see there well actually the band is named
Starting point is 01:00:45 after the song by Veruca Salt which is from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory yes correct but Veruca Salt is great anyway I feel like the Cranberries
Starting point is 01:00:53 almost stepped in when Sinead O'Connor took a step back obviously very different music but sort of the Irish lane right and also do you guys remember the band
Starting point is 01:01:01 The Sundays here's where the story ends I do know the song but I don't da da da da da da da da I love it And also, do you guys remember the band The Sundays? Here's where the story ends. I do know the song. It's like the La La's There She Goes. Am I in the same? A little bit, yeah. Same vintage. There she goes.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Is that from Dumb and Dumber? It's everywhere. I don't know. It's a big, big, big jam. Was that on the American Pie soundtrack? I think it was the So So I Married an Axe Murder. Was it not? This song? No, no. Oh, sorry. We're talking about this song? Are you talking about Letters from Cleo? Was that on the American Pie soundtrack? I think it was the So I Married an Axe Murderer. Was it not?
Starting point is 01:01:25 This song? No, no. Oh, sorry. We're talking about this song? Are you talking about Letters from Cleo? It's Farberman's Cousin, I think. Remember Ferris? What's the... Oh, say Ferris.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Now I'm still thinking of female-led... Okay. The Breeders? Yeah, they're good. Cannonball, that was good. I do have one more. L7? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bricks are heavy. Yeah. Babes in Toilet. Okay. Well, the breeders. Yeah, they're good. Cannonball. That was good. I do have one more. L7. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah. Yeah. Bricks are heavy. Yeah. Babes in toilet. Okay. Final thought about this while she's going on. Don't forget hole.
Starting point is 01:01:53 We said that one. This song was on the two disc set from Woodstock 94. Did you guys have that? Yes. I didn't own it, but I watched when I Come Around by Green Day. The video was played all the time on MuchMovie. But also the Cranberries Dreams.
Starting point is 01:02:09 We probably saw them together lives at some point in that era. Can I just shout out another Cranberry Jam? Yeah. Ode to my family. Beautiful. Yes. He likes me. Fires in the attic. Well, I do think it's interesting when Zombie came out. It was so. Flowers in the attic.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I do think it's interesting when zombie came out. It was so much heavier than everything else. It fit right in with all that. Yeah, it was heavy. Same chords as like a hundred other songs from that era, by the way. Uh-oh. Here we go. Beastie Boys, baby.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Man. So awesome It's like so authentic It's like This still might be my favorite Beastie Boys song It's like they're not trying to be something that they're not What's your favorite Beastie Boys song, Stu? I mean, I want to be cool and say it's something
Starting point is 01:03:09 from like Paul's Boutique because that's like the cool kind of way to go. Hey, ladies. But I think probably the one with Q-Tip maybe. Got to get it together. I'm trying to,
Starting point is 01:03:20 I don't even, I think I might go with something from Check Your Head. I listened to that album so many damn times, Check Your Head. I listened to that album so many damn times. Check Your Head. Yeah, that's good, too. Now you have the sticker, too.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Right? Right? And they were just, you know, Check Your Head specifically, like I remember the imagery with skateboarding and all. They sort of embraced their white boy-ness a lot more in that album. I was going to say, there's literally nobody like this band. No. Like, really.
Starting point is 01:03:42 But they were originally like a punk rock band. Yeah, yeah. Like a thrash band, yeah. And they got originally like a punk rock band. Yeah, yeah. Like a thrash band. They got converted by Russell Simmons and Rick Rubin into this and they ran with it. It's kind of sad.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I saw this video of, I want to say, Mike D's DJing somewhere and he, you know, it's like, it's just sad.
Starting point is 01:03:58 It's like he's putting on the Beastie Boys songs and he kind of does his part but the audience, you see, it's like... Well, it's Adam we lost in the last decade Boys songs. He kind of does his part, but the audience, you see, it's like, well, it's Adam we lost in the last decade
Starting point is 01:04:08 of cancer. Yeah, and that was one I had to check if it was this decade because it feels like he's been gone. He's still here.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Everyone else is still alive from Beastie Boys. It seems like they keep a pretty low profile. I'm kind of glad, though, that they're not going to ever be Beastie Boys
Starting point is 01:04:23 because you need all three parts. The last thing that they put out was to ever be Beastie Boys because you need all three parts the last thing that they put out was that video that had like every A-list celebrity in it playing them remember that was after the death I think but it was like Will Ferrell Jonah Hill
Starting point is 01:04:36 it was like a low budget video is this what I'm thinking it's got like every A-list person it's like Seth Rogen, Jonah Hill and somebody are playing the Beastie Boys. And Will Ferrell, I want to say. I mean, it would be absurd if they continued touring with Adam. I mean, Mike, I think you talked about this on one of the podcasts this week.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Like Stone Temple Pilots are playing in Toronto in a couple months. Yeah, we did talk about this. Because I saw Alice in Chains. I did too. With the new guy. I just saw it. It was pretty good. You just saw it? Because I saw it like years ago when they opened too. With the new guy. I just saw it. It was pretty good. I saw it years ago when they opened for,
Starting point is 01:05:07 a lot of spoiler alerts coming up, when they opened for, of course, Velvet Revolver, speaking of Scott, which we'll talk about later. Hint, hint. And I actually found myself wanting to not like it and then really, really enjoying it. So maybe STP can replace the singer
Starting point is 01:05:22 and it can still be good. The music's still the music. Yeah. I go back and forth on this one. I don't think it's the same as Journey going without Steve Perry. He didn't die, but... I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:34 The rest of the Stone Temple Pals was so kind of faceless. I know there was kind of the brothers. There were two guys who were brothers in the band. The music. Remember the band Talk Show? Yeah. It was when Whelan was in rehab and they put the one album. Talk Talk. The music. Remember the band Talk Show? Yeah. It was when Whelan was in rehab and they put the
Starting point is 01:05:47 one album. Talk Talk Talk. Talk Talk. Right. Or the the. Yeah. I got to say I miss the Beastie Boys
Starting point is 01:05:54 quite a bit and I listen to a lot of Beastie Boys and I Sony Walkman more than anybody in the 90s. We saw them at Maple Leaf Gardens.
Starting point is 01:06:00 We saw them at Lollapalooza. We saw them wherever they whenever they were in Toronto we would go. And of course George Michaels nextapalooza. We saw them wherever they, whenever they were in Toronto, we would go. And of course, George Michael's next on your list here.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Name that tune with Stu Stillman. Died on Christmas Day, I believe. I remember being at the dinner and like, looking at my phone and telling my sister right across from me,
Starting point is 01:06:17 huge George Michael fan at the Faith Pulse. I was like, hey, sis, George Michael's dead. In a day in which many people were singing along to Last Christmas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I gave you my heart in the very next day. It seems like a lot of these people died like December, January, like Bowie and I think some of the other artists we're about to talk about died. I don't know what it is. But I'm interested. I'm looking at the artists that were playing, and the vast majority of them seem to have passed away before a ripe old age.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Well, I mean, some of the ones, I don't know if we'll get around to talking. They're probably lucky. But we just lost a big talent who I think is going to not go to like Tupac. I think Juice WRLD's passing is going to be like a big thing. Big thing. Other than...
Starting point is 01:07:02 For my nephews, they love him. Yeah, I'm saying for younger gents. I mean, not for guys like us, but... But not enough girth of material. Yeah. I know that the Logic song, what is the song? There's a song that got heavy radio... 1-800-SUICIDE?
Starting point is 01:07:19 No, that's not him. Logic? Oh, that's Logic. No, the song has the word Logic in it. Oh, you're talking about Juice WRLD? Yeah, Juice WRLD. He had that one that was like the Sting sample. Fields of Gold sample.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah, that's the one with the word Logic in the title of it, if anybody can spit it out. He has another one. I like that some of his tracks, they sampled an old Farside song on one of them. Yeah, but he was what, 21? Well, think about it. He's at an airport,
Starting point is 01:07:42 and he put pills in his mouth to hide them from security or something. And he swallowed them and he had a seizure and died. Like, yeah. Well, that's, that's what took him at 21. No.
Starting point is 01:07:52 George Michael, however, uh, I mean, come on, man. Wham. One of the first white rap groups there was,
Starting point is 01:08:00 was wham. The wham rap. I remember. Yeah. Uh, great shorts. Uh, You know, Jamie Kennedy and myself,
Starting point is 01:08:07 we did a shot-by-shot remake of the Wake Me Up Before You Go Go video for our hit song Circle Circle Dot Dot. Choose Life. So you can watch it on YouTube if you want to watch that,
Starting point is 01:08:18 but it's literally a shot-for-shot recreation. So we were big Wham! fans, clearly. Make It Big was a cassette that I absolutely adored. I had like a Choose Life shirt. Yeah, Wake Me Up Before You Go Go, yeah. And his solo album, the
Starting point is 01:08:31 Faith album was phenomenal. Like a monster album. Almost like start to finish. Yeah, so many hits on that album. Every single song became a single. Sex, Father Figure, which is one of my favorites. Well, Faith, the title track. Kissing a Fool.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Remember Kissing a Fool, Monkey? I like Kissing a Fool. Kissing a Fool is fantastic. I really like that song. I remember the Rivers Air Force had a version of Kissing a Fool. They would insert that into the middle. A member of the Rivers Air Force was Larry Fedorek. He was at TMLX5.
Starting point is 01:08:59 He's probably a big George Michael fan. Probably. Anyway, fantastic. And even before Make It Big, I remember, If you want to do it, do it right. Probably. Well, anyway, fantastic. And even before Make It Big, I remember If You Wanna Do It, Do It Right. Oh, yeah. Actually, you know
Starting point is 01:09:08 it's a great song that Everything She Wants. Yeah. Remember his duet with Aretha Franklin? Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fucking awesome.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I don't want your freedom. That's another one. Freeway of Love? No. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Knew you were waiting for me. By the way, the song by Juice WRLD, which I've loaded up if you want to hear it
Starting point is 01:09:30 as a bonus track in a moment, but it doesn't have the word logic in it. The word I was thinking of in my head was lucid. Oh, lucid dreams. It's the lucid dreams. I have these lucid dreams. I'll play it a little bit after this. I want to just say...
Starting point is 01:09:42 Andrew Ridgely is George Michael's partner there in Wham. But not in this... I'm trying to get my facts right, but not in this song. It's a Wham song, but I believe this was the song that George Michael did completely independently. It might even be credited to George Michael. That's right. Yeah, there's some weird writing thing.
Starting point is 01:10:00 There's something here where it comes on a Wham album, but this is actually... I don't think there's any Ridgely involved in it. Itigious uh little ditty but what a what a song it's got that sax solo and everything but i mean george michael massive pop star and guys our age and gals our age a big deal big bfd uh we lost him there was a video on youtube of george michael and morrissey hanging out on some like talk show from 1985. That's really quite something if you're a big music nerd.
Starting point is 01:10:28 If you want to go back also to that era of George Michael was another one like Whitney Houston where the marketed profile was nothing like the guy. No. This was like, wow, here we go. This juice world.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Now we've left the chart just to be clear. This is a bonus track. Sampling, of course, of Sting and Nas. Covered this as well. Okay. The Message by Nas. If, Cam, if you have been anywhere close to Top 40 radio over the past 18 months, you would have heard this song.
Starting point is 01:11:05 My nephew loves this. Seems like the rappers now are more emotional. Yeah, like emo rap. That might be... Another young man we lost, Lil Peep, that was his lane. He was kind of like
Starting point is 01:11:19 emo core rapper. What about Extension? Yeah, my nephews love him too. Maybe we should shout out all the rappers. Don't forget, who's the gentleman who was dating Ariana Grande? Mac Miller. Mac Miller. Yeah, he was great too.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Mac Miller. And he actually had like five albums or so. He was pretty good. Yeah, he was fantastic. Let me fall in and land in inside my grave. Yeah, so. Juice WRLD. Juice WRLD. To. So. Juice world. Juice world.
Starting point is 01:11:47 To all the Toronto Mike listeners. Michael Jackson. I have one here. No. Prince. I thought it was going to be black or white.
Starting point is 01:11:55 You do know Michael Jackson has the previous decade, right? Right. Because 09 he does. Bat dance. I thought it was going to be black or white intro there,
Starting point is 01:12:03 but you got us with the bat dance. You got to keep you on your toes, Stu. I love this song. Vicky Vale. I can actually probably do this by heart, because as a diehard Munch music watcher. Get the fuck out!
Starting point is 01:12:16 Do you want to try to do it? I honestly love, and people, it's not cool to say this is like one of your favorite Prince songs, but it's absolutely one of my favorite Prince songs. It was awesome. Go, go, go with a smile. And where, and where is your Batman? It's the Batman.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Okay, apologies. Vicky Bale. I like that. Who's that? Keep busting. Hey. Yeah, so this is, of course, this whole soundtrack is by Prince. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:02 And this is from 1989's Batman, which I don't know if it was the best one, but it was important to us at that age, for sure. Well, Jack, man, come on. You know, Robert. I'll see the future.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Who's the guy who was in Arliss? Robert Wool. Wool, W-U-H-L. Possibly dead. I don't think so. I think he's still alive. Possibly dead. When don't think so. I think he's still alive. Possibly dead. Okay, when I was watching this on MuchMusic, you know what I thought this sample was saying?
Starting point is 01:13:30 See the future in this movie. Oh, like subliminal. Anywhere, anywhere, everywhere is a Batman. So talk to me about Prince. This is a musical genius. Best live performer I've ever seen. Where did you see him? You probably in LA. I saw him at the Forum. I saw him at the Staples Center. I saw him
Starting point is 01:13:51 everywhere. I love Prince. Terrible actor, but great soundtrack on Purple Rain. What an album that is. The energy. All the songs he wrote for other artists. You know, there's a long laundry list. Nothing compares to you.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Yeah, you mentioned Sinead O'Connor. And Manic Monday by the Bengals. Manic Monday, of course. Chaka Khan, I feel for you. That's right. Prince is the man. Like really prolific. Not only could he sing and dance, but also he's prettier than your girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:14:26 And he can shred on the guitar. And he's a good your girlfriend and he can shred on the guitar. He's a good basketball player. Who's that? It's like every Prince riff in one song. Mickey Vale. I like Batman. Oh yeah. I want to fuck that body.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I haven't heard this song in forever. Hi. Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne. I tried to avoid all this, but I can't. Michael Keaton, I love him. Are we going to try to love each other? Christopher Walken.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Stop. Press. Who is that? Gail. She is great, isn't she? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Christopher Walken. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I want to bust that body. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Oh, yeah. I want to bust that body. Right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's talking about Kim. Like this is like quite a musical journey. I always ask that of all my friends.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I just like the sound of it. I always ask that of all my friends. I just like the sound of it. I'm going to go to work. I'm going to go to work. What a fucking crazy song. And it was like on the radio. It was like a top five hit. Oh yeah, this part's awesome. I'm walking in the electric chair for all my future travel.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Hey Jackie. I want to take like seven inches in your computer. What is that from? A little ad-lib. Now this sounds like Prince, but the other stuff didn't.
Starting point is 01:16:21 This song is epic. Like Band on the run or something. It's like a four-parter. Or Paradise by the Dashboard Light. Or Jesus of Suburbia by Green Day. All the songs that have the multi-parts, right? Remember the song
Starting point is 01:16:39 Party Man? That was like the follow-up single from this. And I can see the video in my mind. What a time, eh? Like I could have loaded up Purple Rain, but Cam sent me the list
Starting point is 01:16:56 with this song on it and I said, Cam, that's the fucking jam we played. That's the one. I mean, it's a little bit like we should be shit on by any Prince tribute.
Starting point is 01:17:04 I welcome it because you guys should have picked there's a hundred songs like we should be shit on by any Prince tribute. I welcome it. You guys should have picked. There's a hundred songs that should have been played. They'll be like, where's anything else? Purple Rain. Where's Diamonds and Pearls? Yeah. But this is great. And Prince is great. And literally, like I said, as far
Starting point is 01:17:21 as live performers go, you're gonna get more bang for your buck. It's nonstop. I don't even think the guy takes a break once to take a breath. It's like he's singing, he's dancing, he's doing the splits, he's playing the guitar. It was a concert in the round. One of the ones I saw, he's working the whole stage. Everyone's up dancing.
Starting point is 01:17:37 What took him again? Was it an accidental overdose? Percocets, I think it was. Opioid crisis, man. Percocets, I think it was. Yeah. Opioid crisis, man. The thing about Prince, too, is that he knew he was, you know, he kind of had that confidence, arrogance, confidence about him that was like...
Starting point is 01:17:57 I mean, name this album Love Sexy. This is you, Toronto Mike. Artists of the decade that we have lost. Soto Pilots. When I got Cam's list, I... See, this wasn't on it. I said, where's the STP? It was on the honorable mention.
Starting point is 01:18:17 How could this not be on your list? But there's like 10 spots. We lost a lot of people. Come on. So shout out to some people. It's not Pearl Jam, everybody. So when this song came out, people thought this was a Pearl Jam ripoff,
Starting point is 01:18:32 but I think that they ended up telling people, no, no, no, we're more than that. For sure. And they carved their own thing. I agree 100% with that sentiment. And I personally have paid to see Scott Weiland numerous times. Not often as a... I know I saw him open for Linkin Park once.
Starting point is 01:18:50 I saw them open for the Rolling Stones. Speaking of artists we lost over the past 10 years. Chester Bennington. Maybe I'll load up a Linkin Park jam. I don't know how I overlooked that one. Man. And I was going to say, I also saw them open up for Red Hot Chili Peppers on a concert.
Starting point is 01:19:03 And I saw Velvet Revolver with Slash. How was that? Was that good? Excellent. Because we got some Stone Temple Pilots. I was going to say, did they do... Yeah, Slash is cool because when you see Slash he does Guns N' Roses songs. He's not shy about it. He's also good on Twitter. Good Twitter follow. Tweet a photo of
Starting point is 01:19:20 Tina Turner the other day. I think that the Crow soundtrack had like their best song. Is that Big Empty? Probably, yeah. Exactly. Did you ever see STP Live? Yeah. Stu and Cam. I saw them for sure. I saw them over for the Rolling Stones
Starting point is 01:19:37 at the C&E. Honestly, I don't know if I've seen any of the people we played today short of Spirit of the West like John Mann. I actually saw them also with the Chili Peppers on that same tour. You would have seen them on, Mike, I guess you said that. Yes, I did. That was in 2001 or 2002.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Do you know who sat right in front of me for that concert? David Wells. Oh, that's funny. Was he drunk? He was an amphitheater. What happens at the amphitheater stays at the amphitheater. Stays on the pitcher's mound at Yankee Stadium. the amphitheater stays at the amphitheater.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Stays on the pitcher's mound at Yankee Stadium. And I feel it. I'm going to run down some honorable mentions if you don't mind. Real quick though, whenever a kid was picking up the guitar playing Come As You Are, Nirvana, because that was like the easy song to learn, me and my buddies, we were learning this song. Or Something In The Way, which I noticed
Starting point is 01:20:21 gets a few strums in Jerry Maguire. Oh, really? Yeah, there's a brief scene where he Jerry Maguire. Oh, really? Really? Yeah. There's a brief scene where he starts strumming. Never saw that one either. Really? You never saw Jerry Maguire? No.
Starting point is 01:20:32 What's the matter with you? That's a great movie. You had me at below. Yeah. Why aren't you seeing these movies? He doesn't like movies. What do you watch? What movie have you seen?
Starting point is 01:20:42 Have you seen Apocalypse Now? Yes. Okay. I've seen Apocalypse Now, Never Ending Story, Goonies. Goonies is great. I've seen a lot of stuff. Mr. Mom.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Speaking of Keaton there, if I may, I'm going to do some honorable mentions of acts. We won't be playing today but we lost yes okay tell me about david berman from silver juice okay david berman uh i i had tickets to see david berman with his new band purple purple mountains i was gonna go with the jamie michaels who's our head of brand strategy at Twitter Canada.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Can you get me verified? Sean Michaels? Or Brett Michaels? Yeah, like indie rock hero from kind of the 90s. Perhaps most famous because he had an affiliation with The Pavement, who's a band that Stuart and I have enjoyed. Okay, what about Daniel Johnston? Daniel Johnston, sort of
Starting point is 01:21:43 the troubled singer-songwriter. These are honorable mentions. This is honorable mentions. These are honorable mentions. An artist I actually saw twice in Toronto, once on a bill at Canadian Music Week with the aforementioned FOTM Tara Sloan. She's wonderful.
Starting point is 01:21:58 And you had Danko Jones in recently. FOTM, Danko fucking Jones. He was awesome. Yeah, so this was a bill. Danko Jones, Tara Sloan, Daniel Johnston, and I think like two other bands all played together. How did Palma Pasta not sponsor that show? It's like FOTM right there. I missed out on getting Daniel Johnston to become an FOTM.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Oh, no. You waited too long, dude. Waited too long. What about Captain Beefheart? Okay. What is going on here? So Captain Beefheart, sort of for is going on here? So Captain Beefheart, sort of for like
Starting point is 01:22:26 the deep record nerds. One of those artists I think you're supposed to say you liked. Had a lot of ties to Frank Zappa. Right. Kind of like surrealist.
Starting point is 01:22:35 It's cool to say you were down with him. Yeah, in the residence. But there's a couple here now. Massive deaths from major artists that did not make our list. And I hope this doesn't say
Starting point is 01:22:44 something about us and our tastes, but Amy Winehouse passed away this past decade. Amy Winehouse, I think that's a huge loss. It feels like it happened longer ago. Yeah, I feel like that's been like seven or eight years. Yeah, huge talent. 27 Club. This happened on the day that Molly Johnson visited me.
Starting point is 01:23:04 So that day it was announced that Aretha Franklin passed away. Yeah, the aforementioned Aretha Franklin. I mean, you know. Sang America the Beautiful at WrestleMania 3. Right. I love the wrestling fun facts that spill out of Stu's mouth. And you too, Cam. By the way, I want to say, because we only have a few more to go here.
Starting point is 01:23:23 I thoroughly enjoy your visits. Thank you. And I look forward to them. I think we're going to have to plan. I think the only have a few more to go here, I thoroughly enjoy your visits. Thank you. And I look forward to them. I think we're going to have to plan, like, I think the tandem visits is the way to go. I think that's a sweet spot. Cam and I are hoping to do enough of these appearances that we just develop our own spinoff series.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Absolutely, yeah. Well, just do it with TMDS. Yes. New client for you. Don't mind. Now, we're going off my charts for a moment here because I don't know How I overlooked They deserve a little recognition
Starting point is 01:23:46 Is it Linkin Park? You got it Okay It's actually my favourite Linkin Park song And it's the song That when I saw them live The one time I saw them
Starting point is 01:23:55 At Downsview Park They closed This was the encore closer And just Everybody was just going nuts So I always remember I love the The album they did with Jay-Z And just everybody was just going nuts. So I always remember. I love the album they did with Jay-Z.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Yeah. Incredible. Excellent. Now, we're going to play this through the chorus, and then I'll bring it down and move on because my heart rate is already rising, the adrenaline's pumping, and it just gets me like I could run through a wall. This band's a real blind spot with me. Like, this does not sound familiar at all like i somehow miss this
Starting point is 01:24:29 i kind of associate uh lincoln park with 9-11 like when 9-11 happened i remember like that was the number one. In the end, it doesn't really matter. That's the song. Sorry, sorry. In the end, it really doesn't matter. But also,
Starting point is 01:24:47 Falling is, I think there's a lot of Linkin Park top hits, if you will. That were all in 2001, right around September. And Numb, do you know the song Numb?
Starting point is 01:24:55 Yeah. Yeah. There's a bunch of them. There's like, I could probably play eight songs you've heard of, but this song, I don't think it's got
Starting point is 01:24:59 a lot of radio play. What is this song called? It's called Place for My Head. Place for My Head. Place for My Head. And here's the part that gets me. It's coming.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Hold on. You have to kind of imagine that you're in a field with like... Are people just like fucking losing their shit here? So again, you're talking to a guy
Starting point is 01:25:16 who enjoyed a Limp Bizkit concert once. So maybe I'm not... I'm going DJ Lethal, one of my very good friends. Limp Bizkit, House of Finn. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Here, listen to this. He's not a Linkin Park fan. Is there a wall of death during this, Mike, when you saw them? I'd call it that, yes. Don't come around here no more. I apologize. I have a little disruption in the force with my soundboard today. I notice it has that moment where it kind of messes up. I just think I'm incredible at naming these tunes.
Starting point is 01:26:13 A little stutter. Well, I went with the hits. Other than that one, I went with the hits. Just for you, Stu. And this actually, give credit, Cam actually chose which Tom Petty song we should play yeah I figured he'd go with
Starting point is 01:26:29 Running Down a Dream because there was a Bret Hart video to that song but was there really? yeah like a motivation but at least he didn't go
Starting point is 01:26:36 with the obvious like Free Fallin' might be good I thought this would also be a good song to talk over because there's a lot of a lot of space don't come around here
Starting point is 01:26:44 no more by the way what a music you know he's a guy i think we appreciate more after he passed like we're like this guy was i liked him but he was consistent he was always just there he was like comfort food like you just take him for granted like he's always gonna be around and he always like had time for documentary i like a lot of music docs and he kind of always had camera to be in these things. I saw him at the Forum in LA and it was great. Steve Winwood was the opening act, I think.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Holy shit. It was a good show. Higher love. He was part of your traveling Wilburys. Yeah. How many did we got left? We got Jeff Lynn left
Starting point is 01:27:19 and we got Bob Dylan. That's it, right? That's how many, yeah. Oh, yeah, because we've lost George. We lost Roy right away. He wasn't even in that second video. After the Pretty Woman movie was all down.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Remember the video for End of the Line? That's right. They just gave him a seat. Last Dance with Mary Jane. Wait, you know what? He had that one where he played the Mad Hatter. Yep. Into the Great Wide Open.
Starting point is 01:27:43 That's right. That was a great album. Wasn't it like Johnny Depp?atter. Yep. Into the Great Wide Open. Yep. That's right. That was a great album. Wasn't it like Johnny Depp? Yes. Yeah. And the other one you mentioned a moment ago there was kind of riffed by... Chili Peppers.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Chili Peppers. Do you guys know who the female voice on this is? I think most people probably think it's Stevie Nicks. Can I guess? Sure. I want to hear it and I want to guess too. Yeah. Produced by Dave Stewart,
Starting point is 01:28:03 not the Oakland A's pitcher. That's Annie Lennox? That's a give. But who's the female voice on this song? So it's not Annie Lennox. You guys aren't going to get this because I don't even know who this person is. Edie Brickell? The person who did the song
Starting point is 01:28:19 Separate Lives with Phil Collins, whoever that was. I think her name's like Donna or something. Wow. Donna Christianello. So it's not Chrissy Hine from The Pretenders. No, it's not Velvet McIntyre. There's an underappreciated band, by the way, The Pretenders.
Starting point is 01:28:37 The Pretenders are great. Just like Tom Petty. Should anything happen to Chrissy? There's a band that was like goat's cheese. I hated it as a kid, but now I love it. I always liked The Pretenders because Middle of the Road was a big hit when I was young. That was a big hit. I just watched a series on HBO called The Deuce. One of the seasons opens with this fantastic Pretenders song.
Starting point is 01:28:58 I can't get enough of it, but I think they're fantastic. At this time of year, 2,000 Miles is a great Christmas jam. Tom Petty he's also great that video for Free Fallin' is a such an iconic
Starting point is 01:29:13 slice of Los Angeles in the valley in the late 80s early 90s with that mall the Galleria Mall and they had up
Starting point is 01:29:21 on Mall Holland Drive where they had the skateboard ramps going it was just such a an accurate an homage and they shot on Venturaholland Drive where they had the skateboard ramps going. It was just such an accurate- An homage. And they shot on Ventura Boulevard right where I have a place like a block. I live there on that street where they shoot that video with the car dealership and all
Starting point is 01:29:34 that. I have a memory of Jeff Lynn telling a story where he hooks up with Tom, and they write that on the first day they sit down to write songs, and Free Falling just falls out. They collaborate, and there it is. Ventura Boulevard. Another one of those. From that era. She's explosive.
Starting point is 01:29:49 In America too. From that era of the A&Rs bringing back the 70s acts. Tom Petty was a benefactor of that. There was a lot of innocence lost. Like Don Henley, The End of the Innocents, most obviously. Bruce Hornsby. Yes. And the aforementioned Steve Winwood, too.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Yeah, Higher Love was a top ten hit at this time. I think he had another hit, too, Steve Winwood. The Heartbreakers, though, was a hell of a bend, and people, they don't get enough credit. Now Mike Campbell from The Heartbreakers in Fleetwood Mac. Oh, really? Yeah. Replacing Lindsey Buckingham?
Starting point is 01:30:28 Yeah, and also Neil Finn from Crowded House. It's fucking weird. I don't recall this song getting so hard at the end. Whatever you're looking for. Gotta love Tom Petty And now he's got his own channel on SiriusXM The Tom Petty channel It's about time We're listening to Toronto Mike
Starting point is 01:30:57 Counting down the artists we lost In the last decade Soundgarden Chris Cornell This makes me think of Martin Streep Like speaking of people who've lost. I feel like Jesus Christ pose more so. But this too. Rusty Cage.
Starting point is 01:31:12 I feel like this would be a Club 102 at the start of a set because you can talk over it much like we are doing. Coming up right now. Where I'm going to be next week to see Sloan is the Phoenix. I feel like saying the Forte.
Starting point is 01:31:24 I wish I was here. like to go to that. I wish I was here, I would go to that. Lost and cranked. In the background, Sal Gargan. Rusted cage, ha ha. I've got tickets to La La Palooza. Swarm up. 877-102-411-CALLUS.
Starting point is 01:31:39 And speaking of those artists from the past that got resurgence, this was covered nicely, I hope I have the right one, but that got covered nicely by Johnny Cash. Mentioned him earlier by comparing
Starting point is 01:31:49 Stompin' Tom Connors to him incorrectly. Fuck, everyone's dead, guys. You know what? This sucks. Eddie Vedder's still alive, so I feel like if something should happen
Starting point is 01:31:57 to my Eddie, then there's my childhood's gone. But Chuck D's still with us, too. I feel like this singles soundtrack put these guys on the map, along with a couple other acts. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's Chris Cornell's solo. Right. It's his solo. It's not soundbite. Still, it opened your eyes. But these guys on the map. House of Chain is also on that soundtrack with Wood. Yep.
Starting point is 01:32:17 And Pearl Jam, of course, with State of Love and Trust. Still the best Smash the Pumpkin song, I think. Ground is fantastic. And Paul Westerberg's on there, too. Oddly, Paul Westerberg. And did they stick a jimmy hendrix song in there or is that a memory i have that's false i was in the movie that i don't know because seattle had hendrix is a seattle guy right screaming trees okay that's a great that's a great jam. So when I came up, I quickly made the order and everything.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I just want to say there's really no bigger rock star in my mind than Chris Cornell. The fact Chris Cornell passed away this decade, I just want to say what a loss. What a voice. You're right. Like a rock. He literally had a song, Jesus Christ pose. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 01:33:06 he had the, he had the look. In fact, it's funny how you mentioned Martin streak too, because you know, street streak seemed like an alpha male, too cool to be believed kind of rock star. He had that Chris Cornell vibe going on. I got to say,
Starting point is 01:33:19 okay, we've lost, we've lost this. Let's go to Kurt Cobain. Took his own life in the 94 or whatever. Lane Staley had his heroin overdose. Took him a long time ago Blind Melon Shannon Hoon
Starting point is 01:33:27 27 years old although I don't want to lump him into these guys but you're right we've lost Scott Weiland now Chris Cornell is gone so we're really it's Eddie Vedder
Starting point is 01:33:37 I'm trying to think they're going on tour next year too Pearl Jam is well they're they're all that's an original they're all
Starting point is 01:33:42 except for the drummer who they've changed a hundred times I absolutely loved Soundgarden. Well, you know where the drummer of Soundgarden is now? He's the drummer for Pro Jam. Oh, I didn't know that. And of course, Temple of the Dog.
Starting point is 01:33:55 And then Audioslave. Which was great as well. Or Mad Season. Remember the one? That's Lane Staley, right? That's right. But really, when he cut his hair, I think that's right. But really just a good just a when he cut his
Starting point is 01:34:08 hair. I think that's when I started loving him. Short hair Chris Cornell. Wow. That's the album that I really boom in like my wave. Yeah. Oh man. You guys fell on black days. Yeah that's a good one. And then like the album after that was also really good
Starting point is 01:34:26 with that Ty Cobb song. Pretty Noose, I think is the very underrated. And I don't know where you're coming from. But I want to give a shout out to Audioslave. Sort of like, I didn't expect I'd like Audioslave so much. In a very similar way, I didn't think I'd like Velvet Revolver as much as I did. And they both have similar, because they're both guys from their previous bands
Starting point is 01:34:48 you love to hook up with great guitarists from other bands. Tom Morello's The Men. You guys saw Rage Against The Machines reuniting next year. Yeah. Playing Border Towns, very political and election year for our friends in the U.S. I'm gonna break my rusty case and run. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Is Leonard Cohen yeah yeah the original rapper I thought that was Dylan in Subterranean Homesick Blues that's right
Starting point is 01:35:36 did you guys I know we've worked on talk about Lou Reed ever see the Lou Reed song the original rapper where he did a rap song like in like 86 or so sorry we should done talking about Lou Reed. Ever see the Lou Reed song, The Original Rapper? Where he did a rap song.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Like in like 86 or so. Sorry, we should be talking about Leonard. No, I just want to shout out some CanCon here before we close with a little more CanCon. But Leonard Cohen died this past decade and just a tremendous artist and a great poet, great singer. I mean, some people will say I don't like his voice, and I actually like the character of Leonard Cohen's voice.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Absolutely. But I also like Neil Young's voice. Synonymous, of course, with the next generation that discovered him from The Sopranos theme song. Woke up this morning, got myself. A3? That's not Leonard Cohen. That's A3? Is that A3? Yeah, I don't think that's Leonard Cohen.? Is that A3? I don't think so. So what am I thinking of?
Starting point is 01:36:28 You know what I think you're thinking of? You're thinking of this next generation is obsessed with Hallelujah covers. Oh, that's it. Is that it? I don't know. And that's in Shrek, so you got a whole bunch of kids running around. I always think like his version... Wait, are you telling me he didn't do the Sopranos song? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:41 It's A3, as I remember. Yeah, which is like a British... Woke up this morning, got myself a gun. But he must have done something on that remember. Yeah, which is like a British. Got myself a gun. But he must have done something on that show. I don't think so. No. Fuck him, stupid. But this song, by the way, was used wonderfully in Pump Up the Volume. Pump Up the Volume. That's right.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Right. And in fact, that's sort of what I do here because it was a guy in his basement doing radio out of his basement. Yeah, Pirate. Heart on Harry? Was that his name? Heart on Harry? Christian Slater played that. Yeah, that sounds right. I never saw that movie. I really like that movie. Today I like to pretend I'm hard on Harry in my basement here.
Starting point is 01:37:12 You guys owe me a fucking apology. Wait a minute. Tell us, Stu. Leonard Cohen woke up this morning. That's his song. You guys made me feel like I'm stupid. That's news to me. Can you read further to make sure it's not just the same title No it's the fucking song
Starting point is 01:37:27 I'll play it for you right now You're telling me woke up this morning Got myself a gun I don't spit out bullshit He's not singing this No he's not it's A3 No it's not Look it up man you got a computer right there
Starting point is 01:37:42 I'm getting mad This is an old MacBook that doesn't want to behave today. What does this say? It's just not him. There's like multiple songs with the same name. Oh, you shut your mouth. Stu. Go to hell.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Stu, I'm a massive Sopranos fan. Leonard Cohen does not sing the theme song. Oh, really? Turn yours down for a second. Well, do you want me to connect you via Bluetooth real quick and whatever you play we'll hear? Listen, we can hear it. Okay, I'll bring down mine here. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:38:09 That's not Leonard Cohen? It's a cover of it. Okay, it's a cover. It's a cover. It's not the song from Sopranos. It's not the same thing, though. What do you mean? That's him.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Yeah, but this is not the song. This is the song from the Sopranos that they use. Are you crazy? It's not that. Yes, it is the version. Listen. No, that's different. You're crazy.
Starting point is 01:38:28 You guys are absolute fucking crazy. Hey, I know movies. Okay, Stu. Look it up. A3 is the artist that says the theme song to Sopranos. I'll play it right now because I've always kind of... I don't care what you say. Look up on Google, Leonard Cohen Sopranos.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Woke up this morning, caught myself again. It's everywhere. I have no time for that. See, that's a cover. You're playing a cover. Can you go to the Wikipedia page for this song and find out who wrote it? This is not Leonard Cohen.
Starting point is 01:39:02 This is not Sopranos theme song. Yes, it is. But it's a Leonard Cohen. This is not Sopranos theme song. Yes, it is. But it's a Leonard Cohen song. They're covering Leonard Cohen then. Sure. So it's a Leonard Cohen song. Okay. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:18 I would like you to find out quickly. I'm trying to click all and it's not listening to me. Try to go to the Wikipedia page and find out who wrote this song, please. Maybe Stu's right for once. I know that I'm right. It's possible. Anyway, one other TV theme song that Leonard Cohen did was Mush Music, hosted
Starting point is 01:39:35 by FOTM Ziggy. Right? Ain't no cure for love. I downloaded it for you and I failed to load it up for some reason. Oh, that's reason. But yeah, Leonard Cohen. Okay. A little tie back to the Chim City Empire.
Starting point is 01:39:53 That's really crazy. How the fuck is it like Leonard Cohen? It says Leonard Cohen all over every video. It's A3. Why don't you Google A3? Alabama 3 you're talking about. I don't even know what A3 stands for Alabama 3
Starting point is 01:40:06 They've got to be covering it Because every I woke up this morning There's like a hundred links to Leonard Cohen For listeners theater of the mind We're just looking at Stu's cell phone here I got one more jam left gentlemen A little silence here
Starting point is 01:40:21 By the way rest in peace Leonard Cohen I'm so sorry that everybody doubted that you were involved, maybe, with the Sopranos theme song. Inconclusive at this moment. We're going to confirm after. Maybe it's just incorrectly labeled on the 500 videos that have been made. When I used to download on Napster, I once downloaded Don't Worry, Be Happy. And when I downloaded the file, it was credited to Bob Marley.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Oh. That's fucked up. Bobby McMarley. All right. Is there a can convoy here? Interland, who's who? Jake Gold told me a great story about how they didn't have the rights to that Loon call.
Starting point is 01:41:04 They had to license it. It was on some nature CD. Did he just buy it at the airport, I feel like? Yes, that's correct. Yes, I remember. It's a good story. Of course, one of the greatest, we've already spent a lot of time talking about these guys. I'm looking at them right now because I have right over there, Inspiring Me.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Every episode of Toronto Mike is a picture of Lord Downey, the secret path. Tragically Hip, Toronto Mike. Stu, what's your favorite Tragically Hip song? Probably Long Time Running. My wedding song. That was my first dance at my wedding. I think that... Oh, you're supposed to ask which wedding.
Starting point is 01:41:44 In our formidable high school years, to my wedding, eh? I think that... Oh, you're supposed to ask which wedding. In our formidable high school years, Tragically Hip, that album with Head by a Century and all that, that was a... Trouble at the Hen House.
Starting point is 01:41:53 That was a soundtrack to our high school. It was such a popular album. It was one of those albums you go to someone's house and it's there. They have like five CDs. It's also like the album that Tragically Hip went from like a Q107 kind of rock act to like a mainstream pop act.
Starting point is 01:42:10 See, I'm with you because I think you have the wrong album. The album, which I think you're talking about is fully – Oh, Grace 2. No, I think you're still wrong. I think it's fully completely – With Courage on it? Yeah. No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Okay, in my circle, up to here, Q107 band. I went out and ran out and bought it. I loved Tragically Hip from the minute I heard Blow It High Dope. The next album is Road Apples. And of course, I'm already in love with it. Q107, much music, Little Bones, right? Long time runnings on that. Then they put out Fully Completely with Courage.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Locked in the trunk of a car. Yeah, that was a popular song. And of course, 50 Mission. I mean, fully, completely itself. I mean, this was the one with the big monster jams where it went mainstream, in my humble opinion. Because after that is the one with Grace 2 and Nautical Disaster, which is Day for Night.
Starting point is 01:42:58 That was the big one, Day for Night. I think it's fully, completely the big one. I was going to say, I think the thing about Trouble of the Hen House, that's a head-by-sense you'd hear on CHFI, like Brian Master. It crossed over to say, I think the thing about Trouble of the Hen is that's, head by a century, you'd hear on CHFI, like Brian Master probably through this. That's the thing that
Starting point is 01:43:08 crossed me to a pop act. Yeah, I think that's fair. And this song we're listening to now is on Fully Completely if my memory is correct. I believe you're right. And also Scared is on that. Who to make you scared?
Starting point is 01:43:19 I think Scared is on Day for Night, is it not? Also, what a performer. I can't, just the theatrics and the sort of like acting out his craziness. Oh my God, yeah. The emotions.
Starting point is 01:43:34 You know, I don't want to step out of line here or say something sideways here. I went to the show, their last final show in Toronto at the Sky. That's the Sunday show, right? Yeah. I was at the middle show. Right. So I went to that show, and then they had one more show left in their hometown in Kingston. August 20th.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Right. So I went to the one in Toronto, and it was very emotional. And it was like, holy shit, this is crazy. It was sad. It was surreal. Did you go alone? No, I went with my sister, Dina. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:03 We had a great time. But the thing that caught me a little bit off guard about the theatrics of it all was that you go on YouTube and you watch sets from that whole tour. And it's like he did the same thing at every single show. Yeah. So it's like that moment that we – and I'm sure it was 100% real. I'm not saying that it wasn't. I'm just saying that it just shows you what a showman he was, even in the face of death. Well, they treated it like a normal tour.
Starting point is 01:44:29 That's what I'm saying. They didn't want to treat it like the final tour. The pinpoint where he really gets emotional, he did that same thing at every show. Like get the moves down, basically. My point is he was a showman up until the very end, and he even used his death as part of the show in a lot of ways. In a positive way. Speaking of great rock docs, we all saw a long time running the documentary where you can hear
Starting point is 01:44:51 it's almost amazing that tour happened when you look at what state he was in and able to actually complete that tour. To me, I was impressed by how they sounded like my favorite band of all time. I kind of feel bad for those guys. It's like they could have kept going. They're like one of those acts that could have just kept touring
Starting point is 01:45:07 like the Doobie Brothers or something. I feel bad for lots of them. I mean, this is a tragic end, a sad end, way early. One of our greatest people. I talked to people who know the man, and he sounds like he was a great guy, helpful guy, gone too soon. He cared a lot about Native Canadian issues and stuff like that. Yeah, the Indigenous rights and the Cheney Wenjack Foundation.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Do you think that they could tour again with someone else playing the songs? They wouldn't dare. They wouldn't dare. I feel like they could do the music of the Tragically Ip, maybe with some guest vocalists, which they've done, I think, versions of that in Toronto. Yeah, but who is the guy that would do... Is that some unknown that we don't know yet,
Starting point is 01:45:42 or is there someone that could actually sing like that? But if I hear, Cam, right, you're saying that each song has a different... Like Sarah Harmer might be on one, or Danny Graves. Guy from the Weaker Thans. John K. Sampson. That kind of thing, I think you're right. But they cannot replace Gord in the tragic clip. Of course not.
Starting point is 01:45:57 I don't think they would dare do so. I don't think they would replace him. I'm just saying, like, let the music live on, because these guys can still play the songs, no? Of course they can, yeah. It's like Queen tours without Freddie Mercury, and no disrespect to Gord, but Freddie Mercury is the greatest frontman that ever lived.
Starting point is 01:46:11 And if they can do it without him, then how could him not do it without Gord? I think it's possible. I almost feel like Queen and Freddie is not a great comparison because Gord means more to this nation somehow. Somehow he's like a cultural icon in this country. Like it's sort of different than just replacing the lead singer with a great band. And Freddie Mercury isn't a cultural icon to England?
Starting point is 01:46:32 Correct. Or the world? Correct. Okay. Listen, spoken like a Tragically Hip fan. I actually, I'm going to miss Gord in the Tragically Hip and wherever I was traveling around, whenever I was traveling and like even when I'm going to miss Gordon and the Tragically Hip. And wherever I was traveling around, whenever I was traveling,
Starting point is 01:46:47 and like even when I'm living in the States, there is a sense of pride when it comes to the Tragically Hip that you feel proud to be Canadian and you love the Tragically Hip. It's like beer, hockey, and Tragically Hip. You know, it's like Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, and Tragically Hip. And Georgie Animal Steel. Yeah. I can't get it. I got to get a photo of George. Now, gentlemen, next time you come on, hip you know it's like great lakes brewery palma pasta and tragically hip and georgie animal steel
Starting point is 01:47:05 yeah i can't get it i gotta get a photo of george now gentlemen next time you come on will it be a happier uh that are still alive i sure hope so yeah i gotta say i'm sad i'm bummed out but i'm glad i spent the last couple hours with you guys kicking out some great it flies by kind of like the last 10 years yeah uh it just goes by real. I'll do this again in 2030, the same topic. Holy shit, man. Toronto Mike, congratulations on your... Do you think we'll all be able to get together in 10 years from now? I like to think we could do so.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Maybe not Cam, because he's going to be very popular. Will Cam have any hair left in 10 years? What do you think, Steve? I hope so. We'll see. I'm praying for him. Depends where. I know he's got the Brazilian wax, so he keeps up with that.
Starting point is 01:47:47 And that brings us to the end of our 559th show. By the way, the decade of the 2010's birth to Toronto Mike experience. That is correct. 2008 I started this up. Wait, hold on here. No, I started this up. Wait, let me, hold on here. No, it didn't. Like, that was the previous decade, because 2008 was two decades ago. Well, the popularity with Stu and Cam.
Starting point is 01:48:14 I'm like, Stu, you're right. This was the decade that gave us Toronto Mikes. And then I said, wait a minute. This is the decade that Toronto Mike crossed over and became this huge success. Juggernaut, like an 18-wheeler. You started out the decade without Brian Master and without Cam and Stu.
Starting point is 01:48:27 And I still can't get verified on Twitter, but I'm working on it. You're closing out the decade with Cam and Stu and Brian Master. Speaking of Twitter, I'm at Toronto Mike.
Starting point is 01:48:37 Stu, you're at Stu Stone. I am. Love you, buddy. Cam, you are at Cam underscore Gordon. That's right. You don't have the power
Starting point is 01:48:44 to take away Cam Gordon without the underscore. I don't. It's been occupied. No relation to Kim Gordon. No, no. Did go to York University, though, for a brief time. Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Are friends at Great Lakes Brewery or at Great Lakes Beer? Palma Past is at Palma Past. I can't wait to find out if Leonard Cohen woke up this morning. Or it's just mislabeled on every fucking... He's got to be right, right, Cam? I feel like I don't know. I'm going to plead ignorant. It's that Mandela effect thing. Itabeled on like every fucking, it's like. He's got to be right right now. I feel like I don't know. I'm going to plead ignorant. It's that Mandela effect thing.
Starting point is 01:49:08 It's like a version. No, it's like the Mandela effect. How do you spell Berenstain Bears? Yeah, it's like Berenstain Bears. It's like I always just thought Leonard Cohen is signed. So did everybody else on YouTube. Well, maybe he did.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Maybe he did. Sticker you. Is that sticker you? Brian Master, you write him at letsgetyouhome at kw.com and Banjo Dunk. Is that Banjo Dunk?
Starting point is 01:49:25 I'm going to say see you all next week like I do every episode, even though I'm actually going to record with the guys from the Flyer Vault on Sunday, a rare Sunday performance. Oh, say hello from me. I'm friends with those guys. Oh, yeah, I will. I will do so. So see you all Sunday.
Starting point is 01:49:39 See you all Sunday. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the smell of snow warms me today. And your smile is fine, it's just like mine. It won't go away. Cause everything is rosy and green. Well, I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain. And I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in places I better not name
Starting point is 01:50:08 And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour But I like it much better going down on you Yeah, you know that's true Because everything is coming up Rosy and green
Starting point is 01:50:27 Yeah, the wind is cold But the smell of snow Warms us today And your smile is fine And it's just like mine

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