Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - TOAST 14: Toronto Mike'd #1209
Episode Date: February 22, 2023In this 14th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out Talk Rock a.k.a. jams with talking in them. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewer...y, Palma Pasta, Canna Cabana, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.
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Joining me today for the 14th episode of Toast,
in person, both of them,
Rob Proust and a sharp-dressed man, Bob Willett.
There you go.
Howdy, howdy, howdy.
I was going to begin in one place,
but instead I'm going to another,
which is that we're live at live.torontomic.com and people want to know about your wardrobe, Bob Ouellette.
Describe for the podcast listeners what you're wearing
and why you're wearing this outfit.
I'm wearing, it's actually a felt, it's a Tilly hat that I got at Winners.
From Joe Tilly?
No, not Joe Tilly.
But I got at Winners. I saw it randomly. I, not Joe Tilly. But I got at Winners.
I saw it randomly.
I was shopping with my wife and kids,
and I saw it, and I'm like,
maybe I could be that guy who wears that hat.
Because, you know, there's always that guy
with that big, dumb hat.
Why can't I be the guy with the big...
Oh, like Dave Bedini?
Yeah, like that.
Whoever.
All kinds of people wear big, dumb hats.
There was even a whole SNL sketch
on women with big, dumb hats.
That's right.
And so I was like, maybe. and I put it on and it was
like, this just kind of feels right.
It kind of works. And then
I'm wearing a
suit jacket circa
1970-something and a
vest from another three-piece
suit. They don't match, which is kind of probably
not appropriate, but they were both my grandfather's.
This is like from, what does
it say? It's 100% wool.
Is that Corey's clothiers? Seville Roll.
No, my grandparents weren't. My grandfather
worked at a lead smelting factory, so
they would go to Simpsons, maybe,
and have a suit.
Would they go to Moore's or no? No,
not Moore's. Tip Top. Tip Top.
Tip Top Tailors. Would have gone to Tip Top
Tailors, probably.
And actually, my grandfather actually, this is a pocket watch.
I love that pocket watch.
That was my grandfather's.
This watch, Bob.
This watch.
That's right, your father, my grandfather.
So the reason I'm wearing it now is over the Family Day weekend,
probably about four Family Day weekends in a row,
my cousin and his wife and their daughter,
whose age is
right in between my two daughters i have a 12 year old and a seven year old and uh their daughter's
10 okay so we rent a cottage every family day weekend somewhere with a hot tub and you know
we were in peterborough on the otanaby river just this is just this weekend and they bought
randomly also at winners well getting giving winners a lot of shout-outs to winners, a Murder Mystery
Night box game.
Oh, game.
Yeah, it was games.
It's called Clue, Bob. It was not Clue.
No, it was actually,
you get awards for wardrobe,
you get awards for
acting.
Good dad, right? Robbie's a good dad.
Colonel Mustard in the living room with a wrench.
Yes, exactly.
So I was Professor Pigeon.
Okay.
Professor Dr. Pigeon.
And of course,
my entire character
was completely ripped off.
I was Foghorn Leghorn
the whole night.
I do declare
there is a murder here tonight.
I say, I say, I say, boy.
That's right.
Come on.
I was Foghorn Leghorn all night.
I didn't break character once.
And then, so I posted a picture on my Facebook and my Instagram.
And Toronto Mike says.
I saw it.
Yeah.
You said, wear that.
I don't fit tonight.
I'm like, all right, I will.
Amazing.
What the hell?
I said, yeah, I wear that tonight.
And I didn't think you would, but here you are.
Here we are.
Okay.
And I've wasted five minutes.
Well, I'm going to get back to you in a minute.
I have a, something else happened in the Bob's Basement universe
I want to talk to you about.
But first, I know I talk on behalf of Bob Ouellette
and all the FOTMs are sincere condolences to you, Rob,
on the loss of your dad.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I appreciate it.
It's a tough one.
I know we were talking to you.
He was not doing well on the last episode.
On the sad episode, too.
What was the sad episode?
No, I think we talked about it after the recording. We talked about it afterwards. Yeah, yeah. In more detail after. Yes, on the sad episode no i think we talked about it after we talked about it
afterwards yeah oh in more detail after the set that sad episode put me in a little spiral man
my god i'm sorry down stuff i mean it was yeah we did play good music right yeah but but yeah
literally two days later he passed away because bob just lost his dad fairly recently he was open
about it and then rob you you disclosed that you were like on the verge of losing your dad yeah and yeah oh yeah i'll fix that while you tell us hello what'd you do to the mic nothing but the
best equipment here that's right toronto mic basement studio yeah the timing functions but
it was interesting because the timing of picking the sad songs i was like well i'm going through a
sad time now and i didn't really want to talk about it on the episode as much yeah do you know
what i mean um but it definitely informed my choices and my thoughts in my life in that way.
Yeah.
I found it really powerful.
I mean, I, you know, and it was around my dad, it was my birthday week and my dad's
birthday week as well.
And my whole, one of my sad stories was a huge, the Barry Manilow story about my dad
and everything, right?
Tear jerk.
Yeah.
When you were telling that story, that's why I was thinking, oh my God, I'm relating to
this like right now.
Like, wow. We are very sorry. Thank you. Were you able to have a proper? We did like a memorial. Yeah, when you were telling that story, that's why I was thinking, oh my God, I'm relating to this right now.
We are very sorry.
Were you able to have a proper... We did a memorial the week, so he passed on Thursday, and then the following Monday in Burlington, we had a nice gathering.
Good.
That sounds familiar.
I tend to assume everybody listens to every episode.
I'm like, where is it okay so hey
let's do a real quick reset uh who the hell is rob pruse who the hell is bob willett where the
hell is stew and cam which i'd like to know although i was what's happening with stew today
wish you were here stew i said i'm stuck with these two bums.
Two bobs.
Two robs.
Yeah, two bobs.
Two robs.
So, Rob, remind us, who the hell are you and what makes you such a cool dude?
And then I want to talk about your event Thursday night.
Oh, okay.
I'm a musician from Burlington, Ontario.
Played in some bands, Spoons, which is this band playing now. And I played in some bands, Spoons,
which is this band playing now,
and I played in another band,
Honeymoon Suite.
Wait, so you're playing keyboards
on this song?
I am.
You're not some guy
who showed up in the band
after this was a hit
and just started playing it live?
No, you co-wrote this.
I didn't co-write this one.
Oh, you didn't co-write this one.
No, but Gord wrote this
on an old electric piano of mine,
which I had when I was 11 years old.
Oh, wow.
And then I lent it to him
because we were all into
the early 80s electronic stuff.
And he was like,
let me borrow a keyboard.
And he wrote the opening of this song
and a couple others.
So I was the first person
he played it for in his bedroom.
This is all a long time ago.
That's great.
So I was in this band
and then I was in this other band.
But you co-wrote...
I co-wrote Romantic Traffic.
Romantic Traffic, yeah.
And some others.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, yeah.
It's pretty great.
I think it's fantastic.
I tell people, you know, oh, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, it's pretty great. I think it's fantastic. I tell people, you know,
oh, yeah, the keyboardist for The Spoons
is coming over tonight.
Like, I just drop it,
just to drop it.
Like, I know, Bob,
you just say hey to your family.
Sorry, I got to go hang out
with the keyboardist from The Spoons.
Yeah, well, it's funny.
And universally, the reaction is,
oh, so cool.
Really?
No, yeah, like, Spoons have some cred.
I definitely have some cred left. It's a generational thing. Yeah, it's a generational thing. Oh, for sure. Like, spoons have some cred. I definitely have some cred.
It's a generational thing.
It's a generational thing.
For sure.
I'm not going to say that
to a 20-year-old.
No offense.
Although, there's some kids
who thought I was really cool
because they thought
I was in Spoon.
Oh, yeah.
I can imagine.
I almost ran with it,
but I was like,
sorry, I'm not in Spoon.
I would say, what,
40, like 43 plus
would be, like,
impressed by the fact here.
Has there been any, and we're going to get off topic right away.
Has there been any licensing issue, like moments where you're like, somebody knows you, knows
it from a commercial or a movie?
No.
Not yet.
Not enough.
You guys got to get on that.
We want that stuff to be happening.
I know.
I always like, to me, romantic traffic.
Get on Stranger Things or something.
No, I know.
Romantic traffic would be a perfect car commercial.
Come on now.
Yeah.
Like for Canadians of a certain age who want to buy a certain car.
Yeah.
If you heard that.
You know, Gowan's making some cash out of his strange animal now.
Super Bowl commercial cash.
Yeah, right?
It's only a matter of time.
It'll happen.
I don't know.
We're all getting up there.
No, but do you have a good representative for that?
I have no idea.
The band should have.
You guys should have.
Because there's a whole other agent for that.
I know.
I'm a bit out of the spoon's loop in those ways.
Oh, fair.
You should wait for the checks to come in.
It's Gordon Sandy's sort of thing.
So I sort of leave it to them.
And I'm happy to let the legacy of the music live on in the musical way.
Right.
And if other things go on, I'm like, cool.
You know what I mean?
Because you moved on into theater.
Yeah, and just moved on in life, really.
But I mean, I love and I'm proud of the music.
I'll be playing the music on Thursday night.
Okay, let's talk about that.
So my original plan was,
my plan was until I just read the Environment Canada notice,
I was going to bike to this event.
I was really excited about it.
But now there's like a storm coming tonight.
Going into Thursday.
So I probably can't bike there,
but I will still be there because I have an automobile.
Beautiful. Shocking, breaking news. It'll be icy romantic traffic. So I probably can't bike there, but I will still be there because I have an automobile. Beautiful.
There you go.
Shocking, breaking news.
It'll be icy romantic traffic.
So where are you playing?
It's a little intimate venue on Kerr Street in Oakville called the Moonshine Cafe.
What's capacity there?
Like 60, 70.
60 people?
It's literally like my wife says, this is like my bar mitzvah, but I'm not Jewish and
I'm not 13.
But it's like a nice small
intimate crowd you know so i'm looking forward to that that's going to be friends and some family
and stuff so will sandy horn be there she will i wouldn't miss this for the world really it's
going to be amazing i saw her yesterday up in guelph and we had a good time sort of running
nice it was so fun will we hear this song a yeah, in a manner of speaking. Okay, exciting.
In some way, yeah. And it's sold out quick.
We should just tell, because people are going to be like, I want to go, and
it's like, no, you can't go. Yeah, but there's going to be
a live stream, and they've got a
live stream ticket available through Eventbrite.
I got it on my Facebook
page, so you could find it there as well.
But yeah, small
capacity, but live stream
to the world okay be clear
so what do you want people to
like where do you want people to go
to get to this live stream link
I don't know
oh come on Rob
I'll find a link
your Facebook
where's your marketing department
but it's eventbrite.com
okay but there's a link on your Facebook
yes there is
yeah yeah there is
and on my Instagram as well
people need clear instructions
because they're not as bright as we are
yeah on Instagram
I've got a link right on there as well
so
okay let's drop the title and then a little more catching up because i want to
ask bob about a big episode of bob's basement that happened but uh we are doing talk rock yes
and it'll be interesting to see how we all interpreted it but the way i looked at it is
it's basically it's a song with talking in it but not rapping. It's got to be talking. So somebody is talking.
It doesn't have to be the whole song doesn't have to be talking,
but there's talking in the song.
So just a couple of examples I pulled,
one of which I think a couple of people,
more than one person told me if we didn't play this,
they were going to disown Toronto Mic in some regard.
So I thought maybe we'll play a bit of this song
and just talk about how this is an ideal example of talk rock, even though none of us chose this as one of our talk rock jams.
But this is a Canadian band that I bet you Rob's got a story about.
The Box!
On the 14th of October, very early in the morning,
the results of a crime were found in the stables of Le Père Choupon.
The old man had discovered, to his absolute dismay,
the dislocated body of Elizabeth Dumoutier.
So, the police was called in.
So this is a perfect example of talk rock.
It's a song with talking in it.
Bob, you and I are similar vintage.
This part I don't remember that well, actually,
but the chorus of this song, it seems like it was everywhere.
Do you know the song?
Me? Yeah, of course I know the box.
Yeah, I know you know the box, but this particular song.
This wouldn't be... If somebody's going to tell me
what song comes to mind,
first for the box,
it would probably have been
Ordinary People.
It would have been probably like
CFTR 88.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is Sass Jordan on Ordinary People?
I know she's on...
She might be.
The Together song.
Maybe, yeah.
I'm in together.
Did you have any box encounters in your Spoon career?
Yes.
They opened for us on a tour of Quebec and possibly the East Coast at some point in,
I want to say it must have been maybe 85.
I think it was the last year I was in the band.
And we did a bunch of shows together.
And I loved them.
Any band that had all the keyboards, I was into it.
You know, because I mean, it was our band was like the keyboards and the guitars, all a mix.
But whenever we did shows with Images and Vogue or The Box,
the synth bands, I was like, that's really cool.
Marth and the Muffins?
They were more New Wave than us.
New Wave, okay.
All right, cool.
Now I want to bring this down,
even though I want to get to the chorus and bring it up again.
Bob Ouellette, you were teasing an episode of Bob's Basement
last time you were on.
Hot Lips?
Hot Lips Houlihan.
Yeah, I got a random contact from this publicist.
This guy seems like he's been around.
I mean, he's represented some crazy people.
And I guess I got to know him when I was at Proud FM, and I booked some people through him.
And I had reached out.
I don't even know.
She tweeted something.
She doesn't have a blue check, right?
She's like, she's 85 years old.
Is she 85?
She's 85 years old.
Because I listened to your chat with her
and she doesn't sound 85.
No, you know, I wanted to make sure,
you know, because, you know,
the podcast about the concept of change,
I really did want to plug the things
that she wanted to have plugged,
which was her, she has a book book of paintings and oh i noticed you know
i noticed i got that so i could get so i could do that and then and i was told don't worry she
likes to talk and she likes to talk about mash yeah and so and being again it was around my dad's
birthday and like it was my dad introduced me to the show. Like in 82,
I was,
you know,
I didn't really syndication is how I got into mash.
Right. I was just a kid when I came to,
but she was wonderful.
She shared some amazing stories.
We talked,
you know,
with the concept of change.
I said,
what I found so great.
That show was on 11 seasons and it's like 24 episodes a season.
Like I'll lose a lot of episodes and how it,
how they dealt with change,
the changing of this, of the, of the cast and kept moving along.
I just thought it was brilliant.
And she gave me a little insight into how Frank,
how she basically went to Larry Gelbart, who ran the show,
and said, Hot Lips can't stay with Frank.
It doesn't make any sense.
Because Frank was a dick.
Yeah, because she's too strong of a character.
It's one thing for her to get swept up in this momentary thing.
And she went into the detail about how they basically had to break.
She goes, for my character to be real,
they have to break Frank and Hot Lips up.
It was really cool.
It was a really cool conversation.
It's really cool.
Yeah.
And that was the last episode I've done.
I've had a few.
That was a few weeks ago.
Well, now you can't top that, so just quit.
Yeah, maybe that's it. That's it. What's the point? I've had a few, that was a few weeks ago. Well, now you can't top that, so just quit. Yeah, maybe that's it.
That's it.
Like, what's the point?
I've had a few things lined up
that have just fallen through,
still haven't coordinated
with Mr. Bruce here.
We got to get that to happen.
Is Clinger coming on?
That's what I want to know.
I would love to have Jamie Farr on.
Are you kidding me?
I actually reached out
to try to get Alan Alda.
He's got a podcast.
Well, that's the big one, right?
He's got the Clear and Vivid podcast.
His Clear and Vivid podcast
is quite good.
Wow.
And I've reached out a couple of times to no avail,
but it was,
I just thought,
you know what?
I'm on a roll.
Why not?
What's the worst that could happen?
Exactly.
Got to ask.
It was a great episode.
I hope people listen to it.
It was a lot of fun.
If you're a mash fan,
if you're of a certain age and there's a lot of golden,
like kind of post golden era,
Hollywood talk.
Like she was on like six episodes of Hawaii five. Oh, and she was on like, she was on love boat. talk. She was on like six episodes of Hawaii Five-0.
I'm sure she was on Love Boat.
Yeah, she was on Love Boat.
And then all those variety shows of the 70s
she would have been on.
She was probably on Battle of the Network Stars.
With Linda Carter, probably.
Yes, probably.
That's a killer team right there.
Oh, for sure.
Are you kidding me?
It was great.
Yeah, so Bob's Basement.
Heard here and there and everywhere when I get around to it.
It's been busy.
Good episode, Bob.
Thank you.
You know, you could tell she enjoyed hearing the stories about you and your dad bonding
while watching MASH.
Yeah, I got a little choked up on her.
Yeah, that's the killer stuff right there.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
All right.
Now, there's another song.
So this song, we all agree, is a talk rock song. Now, now there's another song so this song we all agree is
a talk rock song now this song no one chose this song i love this song but no one chose it i want
you guys to just tell me whether this is talk rock
sometimes i try to do things it just doesn't work out the way i want it to
and i get real frustrated they're like i try hard to do it, and I take my time,
but it just doesn't work out the way I want it to.
It's like I concentrate on real hard, but it just doesn't work out.
And everything I do and everything I try, it never turns out.
It's like I need time to figure these things out.
There's always someone there going, hey, Mike,
we've been noticing you've been having a lot of problems lately.
Maybe get away. I love this fucking song, by the way.
Always have loved this song.
Yeah, institutionalized suicidal tendencies.
I think this is talk rock.
What say you both?
Oh, for sure.
I think this qualifies for it.
It's a song where a guy's talking.
He's not rapping.
Yeah.
He's talking.
He's not singing.
Right.
Makes me think of another
song that I didn't think of until now.
Hold on to it and see if we play it.
I feel the same way.
Oh, I could have done that.
This makes me think of other songs as well, but it's totally
a talk rock. Yeah, for sure.
Now all this guy wanted was a Pepsi. All I wanted
was a Great Lakes beer. There we go. I was waiting for it, man.
All I wanted was a Pepsi.
Alright, one at a time. Or do you want to do it all at the same time? It's your sponsor. 3 was waiting for it, man. All I wanted was a Pepsi. All right. One at a time.
Or do you want to do it all at the same time?
No.
It's your sponsor.
Three, two, one, then pop, okay?
Okay.
Three, two, one.
Ooh, that was good.
And in the breakdown of the song.
In stereo.
Yeah, perfect timing.
Okay.
Cheers, gentlemen.
So what are we all drinking here?
Cheers.
I've got the lager, Great Lakes lager.
Canuck Pale Ale.
This is a special toast because Rob's here in person.
I know. That's amazing.
Okay. Second time here for you, right?
I'm IPA-ing it.
You're lager-ing it, Bob. And Rob
is pale ale-ing it.
Okay, amazing. Pale ale.
That's their number one
seller, I think. Which one is the Canuck?
Yeah. Alright. I believe that.
Oh, yeah. So good. Okay.
All they wanted was a Pepsi.
All he wanted was a Great Lakes beer.
Any thoughts at all?
Before we kick out the first jam, any thoughts at all about the fact that last time we recorded
Toast, we had a mayor, and now we don't have a mayor.
Like, we're mayor-less here in Toronto because John Torrey's resigned.
Any thoughts at all about that, Bob Ouellette?
I'm surprised. Ple pleasantly surprised he quit.
I didn't think he would, but once the report was out.
Because you're used to Trump and the Fords.
Yeah, I did.
No, seriously.
I ain't going nowhere.
People refuse to leave.
Yeah, they just refuse to leave.
I think it's...
No shame.
Yeah, I think it's honorable for him to go,
but it's the right thing for him to go.
He made a wrong decision.
I mean,
there's infidelity all around the world,
but she,
the fact that she reported to him,
that's the city hall.
That's it.
She reported to him.
That's it.
She,
he was her boss,
whether there was four people between them or not,
he was her boss.
That makes it inappropriate.
And that shows a lack of judgment.
Yep.
So it is what it is. I was never in love with the guy.
I don't have the vitriol that
millennials have for this guy. Have you ever
listened to a millennial talk about him? I was like,
you have no idea. You know why? Because they've seen the videos
of...
But you know, he's Mr.
Dithers, right? He was Mr. Dithers.
He would kind of like, no action, nothing, nothing,
nothing, and then all of a sudden
some homeless people in a park
and action arrives.
Like suddenly the cops are there
clearing out the homeless.
Yeah, I don't, like I said,
I never hated the guy.
He was probably ineffectual at best.
You were indifferent.
Yeah, I was indifferent to him.
And again, I find people under,
like 35 and under just despise him.
And I was like, well,
you know,
you guys,
you probably don't really don't remember Doug and you don't remember Bob and
you don't remember Mel,
Mel Lastman,
who was just a nightmare as well.
So,
you know,
I was like,
this guy's not so bad.
Sometimes it's better.
The enemy,
you know,
you know,
that's what,
that was my thought,
but I'm not surprised he's gone.
Sorry,
Rob.
Yeah.
You're not a Toronto resident.
Yeah.
I don't really have much of a take other than what I've heard from a
distance. Yeah. And Mike, I don't really have much of a take other than what I've heard from a distance.
And Mike, I appreciated your conversation
with the journalist.
David Ryder.
Yeah, that next morning hot off the press.
That was awesome.
Well, that thing blew up, by the way.
Yeah, it was a good weekend for Toronto Mike.
Yeah, you did it so quickly.
And so for me, I tuned in to catch
sort of that story at that point.
So for me, from a distance, I appreciated that.
It just seems like the right thing for him to do because then I,
I wasn't really paying attention to all the ups and downs of the story,
but it sounded like he was going to try to not resign.
Well,
no,
there's a big Wednesday had a big budget meeting and you know,
where we kind of thought maybe he'd resign Monday morning or whatever.
He said,
no,
I'm going to like reside over the budget meeting.
And then he was out by the end of the week.
But,
uh,
yeah.
And there was,
you know,
you know, people are like, Oh, they're talking talking him out of resigning maybe he'll stick around so you
had that weird week of uh you know we're used to chaos in this city rob so you know so all i want
to shout out a couple people on the live stream real quick here so i want to shout out yyz gourd
because he uh all i wanted was a pepsi because course, that's the great line and that song I love,
and he also likes your hat, Bob.
Thank you very much.
And Cambrio, shout out.
We mentioned Bedini.
He wanted to shout out the West End Phoenix,
and he likes your beer that you've got there, Rob,
because it's the number of the beast.
Let's go.
Oh, yes.
I see Dave here as well.
We can probably get into the jams.
I got a,
there's a bunch of jams to come here.
Uh,
let's start.
I can't remember our order.
I was thinking Bob,
Rob,
and then me.
Any objections?
No,
whatever.
That would be the first.
Yeah.
I haven't,
I haven't gone first.
Go first.
Okay.
Okay.
I couldn't remember anything.
I can't remember anything.
I just know Stu liked to go last because he considered himself,
he was like the cleanup batter or whatever.
So,
you know. All right. You ready? Bob will let me get my notes. anything. I just know Stu liked to go last because he considered himself, he was like the cleanup batter or whatever. Alright.
You ready?
Bob Willett. Let me get my notes. I think you're going to get your burps out of the way there. I wasn't a burp.
I was going to get my notes. Did you hear a burp, Rob? Maybe.
Sorry. I will shout out the
hoodie worn by Rob Prues. It is the
Hilarious House of Frightenstein.
There's a spoken
it's not rock and roll, but
the castle lights are growing. What's his name again? Vincent Price. You Hamilton institution. There's a spoken, it's not rock and roll, but the castle lights are growing again.
What's his name again?
Vincent Price?
You're hilarious.
You're working
behind the scenes there.
Is this yours?
It's my pick.
Come on.
Oh my God.
This is the first one
that came to mind.
Really?
Yeah.
That's a fucking
mind blow right there.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
So we'll let the song start a bit, then we'll bring it down and talk, and then when the
talking part comes.
But it's amazing we were just talking about Hilarious House of Freidenstein.
Like, that's amazing.
Here it comes.
Let's do it, guys.
Oh, yeah.
I guess Lieve Fumke came late to the live stream.
She wants to know, Bob, is that the exact same costume you wore for the photo shoot?
No, I also had a button down and a
full suit and a tie.
It's a funky jam. He's playing it.
He's air good song.
What can you say about this song?
It's funky.
It's ridiculous.
It's the last single off the album.
Was it?
Yeah.
Seventh single off the album.
Yeah. Unbelievable. The biggest selling album. Was it? Yeah, seventh single off the album. Yeah.
Unbelievable.
The biggest selling album of all time.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, think about, you know, he did Off the Wall in 79,
and then this comes out late 82.
Yep.
It just changes everything.
It's crazy.
It was insane.
But interesting question from the live chat,
and then I want to hear the rest of your notes.
But I find this interesting because I thought this went earlier.
Was it on the recording that Rob was singing Lisa, It's Your Birthday?
Yes.
Was that on the recording or before?
Oh, I don't know.
It might have been just before.
Okay.
So you're singing that.
And then I said, oh, that's a Michael Jackson song.
And then my first thought was because that episode is not available on Disney+.
Like literally canceled.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That episode, they pulled that episode
because they felt it was
Michael Jackson was grooming kids
to be abused.
So then my brain was thinking,
oh, I know I'm about to play
a Michael Jackson song.
And then I was thinking of,
oh, you know,
I guess we'll talk about it.
But then YYZ chimes in to say,
didn't we cancel this song?
So my question is,
we're okay because we're all
grooving to Michael Jackson. What say you, Bob
Ouellette, program director at a bunch of stations?
I have a hard time.
I can separate the art
from the artist most of the time.
And this one, he's so
iconic. And I got to admit, I'm biased.
When I was a kid, I had two posters on my wall
I had one was the Thriller album
the other one was Hulk Hogan
that's who I grew up with
that's a typical 1985 kid
and you know
like yeah he was
not well clearly there was obviously lots of
issues with him but you can't
I mean you're gonna cancel everybody
like you're gonna hate Johnny Cash you're gonna hate, you're going to cancel everybody. Like, you're going to hate
Johnny Cash.
You're going to hate Elvis.
You're going to hate
all these people
who did horrible things.
I mean, I don't...
You've separated the artist
from the artist.
I think I can.
This came up earlier
with John Scholes.
We were kicking out,
oh, Pink Floyd
with Roger Waters.
Right.
It came up today
and we were talking about it
and he can separate them.
I find, to be honest, he can separate them. I find,
to be honest,
I can separate them.
I can get down to Thriller
and it doesn't mean I'm...
What about comedy though
is another,
can you listen to Louis C.K.?
I think I can.
What I can't listen to
is like old Eddie Murphy
with the F-bombs
and everything.
Here we go.
Here comes the thing.
Oh, here it comes.
This is the talk part. And the organ that's playing underneath it. It's amazing. Here comes the thing. Oh, here it comes. This is the talk part.
And the organ that's playing underneath it.
It's amazing.
It's amazing talk.
Darkness falls across the land.
The midnight hour is close at hand.
Creatures crawl in search of blood
to terrorize your neighborhood.
And whosoever shall be found
without the soul for getting down
must stand and face the hounds of hell
and rot inside a corpse's shell.
I'm gonna free you tonight.
I'm gonna free you tonight. I'm gonna free you tonight I'm gonna free you tonight
Oh darling
I'm gonna free you tonight
I'm gonna free you tonight
Oh darling
Free you now, free you now
The foulest stenches in the air
The funk of forty thousand years
And grisly ghouls from every tomb
Are closing in to seal your doom
And though you fight to stay alive
Your body starts to shiver
For no immortal can resist
The evil of the thriller shiver for no immortal can resist the evil
of the
thriller.
So I have
something I thought about now since that's come out and i've done some
research on it or since we've decided i put it on my list immediately it's actually known as
the thriller rap so it may not qualify but he's talking but he's talking call it a rap but it's
but it's it rhymes but there's no cadence to his delivery like he's just but they probably called
it rap because that used to be a term for like...
Yeah, yeah.
And family ties.
I still remember the scene when the mom and dad in family ties said,
we're just rapping.
Yes, exactly.
Like this was the hippie term.
Like talking.
Talking.
Exactly right.
But it's not hip hop rap.
No.
But Vincent Price...
I don't want to hear the rest of your notes.
But just tie it to the hoodie
worn by Rob Proof right now, because it is
kind of wild that I just
noticed the hoodie and I'm like talking to the hoodie
and then you're talking about,
you were talking about, oh, it's so appropriate
because of Vincent Price.
And I know Bob's jam is
that jam. Oh my god, you were
dying inside. Who said that? Boom!
Okay, well, it all came together
perfect soup uh cauldron there's some good billy van there's good outtakes of that also i i have
one little thing that i sent to mike today i don't know did you not get it the youtube link on your
gmail anyways okay it doesn't matter if you sent it i'll have it in a heartbeat but i do not remember
oh maybe i maybe it's only my drafts so it was it was just a little uh a thing of just a couple
outtakes from it.
Were there other words? Not a lot.
He called Michael Jackson the thriller.
He had a little bit of fun with it, but not much.
There's
some clips of him talking about it on
The Tonight Show with Joan Rivers out there.
You can find. That's cool.
The funny thing,
not related to
the rap part specifically,
the talk part specifically, although it is heavily featured in the video,
which of course is probably the greatest video ever made.
But I don't know if you guys remember,
John Landis did the direction, American World of London guy.
But do you remember Michael Jackson actually disavowed the video at one point?
I don't remember that.
Because he was a Jehovah's Witness.
Yes.
At one point he said, I want nothing to do with this video. Because it was too that. Because he was a Jehovah's Witness. Yes. At one point he said,
I want nothing to do with this video. Because it was too scary?
Because it was too scary. Seriously.
And they don't celebrate Halloween. The occult and all
this stuff. So you can look it up. At one point
he disavowed himself from it.
You feel like somebody like Joe or somebody
forced him in to do
that. Do you know how much?
You ready for my mind blow?
It's probably well known,
but Vincent Price was paid to do that voiceover and he had the choice between 20.
I did it.
So you got $20,000 or a percentage of album sales.
Which did he choose?
He took 20 grand.
He took the 20 K.
You know,
that's a bad gamble considering who is producing the album. And how big off the
wall was.
That was bad.
Maybe Vincent Price
needed the money
right away.
And I don't know
what percentage
they said.
What did Billy Van
give him for his
Hilarious House of
Frightenstein?
I don't know what
that was.
Because that's the
only two places I
ever knew Vincent
Price from.
It was the
Thriller video and
Hilarious House of
Frightenstein.
And the stories
about House of
Frightenstein were
that they would
film all the
segments of each
bit at once.
So he came in for like a day or two days and they wrote all that stuff for him. He did them all and And the stories about House of Feinstein were that they would film all the segments of each bit. Yeah, at once. At once, right?
So he came in for like a day or two days.
Yeah.
And they wrote all that stuff for him.
Yep. He did them all.
And then they just chopped them up.
What a voice.
Yeah.
Okay, what a start, too.
The Bill Hader impression is amazing.
Is it really?
Oh, wow.
Of Vincent Price.
No way.
Yeah.
SNL, great stuff.
So there you go.
I feel like there's a Big Daddy Kane line, Vincent Price, well, you've never been so nice.
So back up from off me, I'm separating men from mice.
Kick your ass in every committee,
city to city,
bullshoes to shitty.
Anyway, don't keep going
because I can't stop.
I think Ed Keenan and I
went into
Let Your Backbone Slide
last time he came over
and we couldn't stop.
You and I did
Digital Underground last time.
You know what?
It's like a thing.
Okay.
All right.
I'm ready now
for Rob Pruce's first jam.
I don't know which one
you're going to do first
so you can do whatever you want.
Oh, I don't know either,
but I will surprise you.
Here you go.
Okay.
Okay.
Nice. Love, love is strange
A lot of people take it for a game
Once you get it, you never want to quit
After you've had it
You're in an awful fix
Plenty of people
Don't understand
They think loving
Is money in the hand
Your sweet loving is better than a kiss
When you leave me, sweet kisses I miss Is the talking part here?
Yep, it's coming up.
Instrumental first.
Call it the bridge in the industry.
Based on a Bo Diddley riff.
Do you know this? Is that one of your fun facts?
Okay, I shouldn't spoil it.
Sylvia!
Yes, Mickey?
How do you call your lover boy?
Come here, lover boy! And if he doesn't answer you call your lover boy? Call me a lover boy.
And if he doesn't answer?
Oh, lover boy.
And if he still doesn't answer?
I simply say,
play, play.
Oh, play.
I heard talking in this jam.
This is talk rock.
Sweet baby.
Love it.
All right, hit me with some fun facts.
It's an early rock and roll song.
This was recorded in October of 56.
Went to number one in the spring of 57.
Come on now.
It was written by Bo Diddley.
Written by Bo Diddley.
Yeah, but apparently he used his wife's name for the credit.
So he didn't want to say it was his song.
He said it was written by Ethel Smith.
So apparently that's the thing people used to do in the old days they would
like write lots of different things but use pseudonyms um like when you write a book from
a different style of book you might use a pen name even though it was like a like you recognized the
riff that was his that he sort of took from another song and incorporated into this to make
you want a fun fact uh alan cross's wife, Mary Ellen Benninger,
who Bob Willett probably knows,
writes fiction, I think, under a pen name, M. Cross.
Did you know that?
I think I did.
She doesn't write it as Mary Ellen Benninger.
It's M. Cross.
E-M, though, like M. Cross.
Like Eric M. or something. Yeah, yeah, so it's related.
It's weird, though, because Jeff Woods reads it
as a part of, no, I'm kidding.
Sorry. That's a really inside joke. Oh, yeah, that's a Blue Hotel joke. Yeah, that's so it's related. It's weird, though, because Jeff Woods reads it as a part of... No, I'm kidding. Sorry.
That's really an inside joke.
Oh, yeah, that's a Blue Hotel joke.
Yeah, that's a Blue Hotel joke.
Sorry.
Inside joke.
It's a radio joke.
Yeah, it's a stupid joke.
After we finish recording, I'll tell you why I've cancelled Jeff Woods.
Okay, sure.
I'll tell you after the recording here.
Okay.
So this song was the B-side of the big hit from Dirty Dancing.
Yes.
This was in the film Dirty Dancing, right?
Wow.
Was the B-side of Time of My Life.
So they reissued it as a B-side
from the Bill Medley, Jennifer Warren song.
Which was a monster jam.
So Love is Strange was the B-side song.
So anybody who was going out to buy that.
45.
You got that on the other side.
I probably haven't.
Really?
My dad's an old kid.
My dad used to love playing Time of My Life
when he DJ'd. It's weird because it's fast and slow. So I was talking to Really? My dad's an old kid. My dad used to love playing Time of My Life when he DJed.
It's weird because
it's fast and slow.
I was talking to my wife
while I was driving in today.
It's a good sing-along.
Yeah, and I told her
about that.
She's like,
what songs are you using?
And I told her this one
and she's like,
I don't know what that is.
I said,
it's by Mickey and Sylvia.
And then I said,
and it was in Dirty Dancing
and she started doing
the whole speech.
She knew the whole thing.
And I sort of have forgotten.
I was looking for
just early rock and roll
kind of spoken word things. So I didn't realize. They had a second life. Okay, and I sort of have forgotten, like I was looking for like just early rock and roll kind of spoken word.
Yeah.
So I didn't realize.
They had a second life.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well,
to bring it to current events.
So Lenny Briscoe,
the act,
Lenny Briscoe,
who's the actor?
Anybody want to name it?
So the actor who plays Lenny Briscoe,
he's from Law and Order,
by the way,
is in Dirty Dancing.
And we just lost Detective Munch from Law and Order
there's no
Law and Order crowd
I'll fix that in post
no no no
Richard Belzer just passed away
Richard Belzer just passed away
I read one of his books
Richard Belzer's got a couple books
kind of like a light hearted take on
conspiracy theories.
Like the whole Abraham Lincoln
JFK thing and
aliens existing.
Very interesting. Now Jerry Orbach
was like a Broadway guy. That's why
he's in Beauty and the Beast.
But yeah, and he's also in Dirty
Dancing. Jerry Orbach, gone
too soon and now we've lost him. Shout out to Ridley Funeral
Home. Thank you. Thank you. Somebody's got to do we've lost. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Thank you.
Thank you. Somebody's got to do the work here. Shout out
to Ridley Funeral Home.
We lost another... Did you get like a little
for that? I get a flashlight.
Actually, it's funny. I recorded
twice today, so I shared this anecdote earlier,
but I feel like it's a different audience than the John
Scholes kick out the jam. But I was
on a Zoom with Steve Paikin yesterday, and then
he goes, Mike, he goes, one of your biggest fans is is here and i don't actually know where he's going with this because
because he's in like florida like on like he's just taking a week off living he's in florida
for a week and then i see this this elderly gentleman comes on the screen and goes mike i
love your show it's larry pake and steve's dad and i and i knew larry had uh was like you know
apparently he's 89 years old and he loves Toronto Mike
anyway Larry made a joke he said
you know I do I love the beer he goes
and I'm pretty sure I'll be at Ridley
Funeral Home soon
and then I knew
yeah he had a good sense of humor
about everything
watch for Larry and Steve
Paken coming to Toronto Mike this Father's Day
there you go
alright
cool man
I don't even know
Mickey and Sylvia
I don't know them either
that song I know
but I don't know
any other Mick
no
there's not much else
for them
and the thing that I found
interesting about the song too
is that there's a bunch
of cover versions
and Paul McCartney
did a really good one
which is weird
I don't think
it's off one of his
first solo albums
it was an album
he did it with Linda in 71 wow but it's a really good one. Oh, cool. Which is weird. I don't think, like it's off one of his first solo albums. It was an album. He did it with Linda in 71.
Wow.
But it's a really kind of a cool thing.
Everything But The Girl,
the band did it in the 90s as well.
Buddy Holly did it like in the early days
and it didn't come out until 69.
Wow.
So yeah,
like across the eras of rock and roll,
it's been a song that people have sort of
tried to recreate.
All right,
I'm going to shout out just a couple of new joiners who've joined us on the live
stream.
I want to show Dan.
Welcome Dan and Canada Kev.
Always nice to see Canada Kev on these things.
So the gang's all here.
All right.
You guys ready for my first jam?
Do it.
I think all my talking's off the top.
So don't miss the beginning of this song.
Here we go.
Hi,
my name is stereo Mike.
Oh yeah.
Going to win tickets.
Yeah, we got three tickets to the Brand Van concert
happening this Monday night at the Pacific Palisades.
You can all log in if you want to answer a couple of questions.
Mainly, what is Todd's favorite cheese?
Jackie just called and said it's a form of rock for?
Let's see if I can get it.
Give us a ring-ding-ding.
It's a beautiful day.
Yeah, Todd, this is Liquid.
Ring-a-ding-a-ding-a.
I want those three grand band tickets, man.
What do you think? Todd, three grand band tickets, man.
What do you think?
It's hot, man. It's hot, man. It's hot.
Yeah, mighty thirsty, I'll explain it on the way.
But we did nothing.
Absolutely nothing that day.
And I say, what the hell am I doing drinking in L.A.?
Back to these days. So definitely talking in this jam.
Definitely.
Also, I love this song.
I think of Toast as a chance to play songs you love.
That's a great song. Yeah, songs You love right That's a great song
Yeah isn't it
That's a great song
Sort of forgot about it
What now
I'm trying to like
Get the actual year
97
It's 97
Wow
Brand Van 3000
Let me go to my notes here
Out of Montreal
Right
So
And I was in Montreal
For Monica's 30th birthday
And Brand Van 3000
Was playing a street concert
And I watched him play it live Oh cool In this free street concert It was amazing and Bran Van 3000 was playing a street concert and I watched him
play it live
in this free street concert.
It was amazing.
Yeah, Bran Van 3000.
That's a great song.
Great beach song.
It's a great summer song.
Eat your heart out, Len.
We have another Canadian
summer song.
I'd take this over Len
any day.
I like that Len song.
I don't mind it
but I think this just has
a way cooler
You're the professional
You're my sunshine
or Bran Van 3000. I don't know. They, to me, sort of a way cooler... Steal My Sunshine or Brampton's Out.
I don't know. They, to me, sort of live
in the same place. They're both great, right?
They give off a similar kind of a vibe.
It's like Sophie's Choice. Yeah, it is sort of.
Would you add, like, She's So High,
Tall Boxman? No, no.
It's a tear down. But stylistically, I think
that those two sort of live in a similar kind of a world.
It's like the late 90s,
when samples were coming into more... The the beats were like this kind of stuff yeah
happening and they both make you feel good yeah and they're both you know one's montreal one's
toronto but great songs okay so 97 uh as mentioned this is uh the very first single that brand van
3000 ever uh put out it's from their debut album Glee. Amazing.
97 here.
I like this part too.
It does show up. I will
once in a while hear it in a TV show or something.
It shows up.
Once we sell the spoons
catalog.
Get Gord on the phone.
Oh man.
Will Gord be at the Moonshine Cafe on Thursday?
I don't think so.
Is he in town?
Well, he's been on and off the road with Flock of Seagulls.
Right.
I forgot about that other gig he's got.
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, so this won a Juno Award.
Sure it did.
For Best Alternative Album.
And they were nominated for Best New Group.
And this song was nominated for Single of the year. I should have dug into what the hell
could be this.
So here's a fun fact.
When I think quickly off the top of my head,
I'm like, name another Brand Van 3000
song and I think of the
Quiet Riot, the cover of
Come on, Feel the Noise.
Do you guys remember this? No.
It was a very mild hit or whatever.
But they had a hit.
Astounded was the other one.
Yes.
Okay.
So thank you.
Yes.
Sorry.
That's okay.
Well, Astounded.
I'm CanCon Radio.
According to the charts,
Astounded is actually
their biggest hit,
bigger hit than Drinking in LA.
According to the charts.
Of course, it's not as good a song,
but it's a fine song.
But I'm playing it
because it's kind of
an interesting footnote
in the history of music
in that this song,
Astounded,
which is a 2001 jam
that was released
by Brand Vans 3000.
This song features
the very last
recorded performance
from a soul legend
we know as
Curtis Mayfield.
Wow. Yeah. Listen closely.
I know.
I know.
Listen to this fucking jam.
It's a great song.
It is.
Play the shit out of this at Proud FM.
Oh yeah.
It was a gold track at the time But we played it
Seven years old
Fucking right. I just want to love you and hold you all the night.
The message from the party, nothing to do with how.
Try to keep it happy, then depress yourself to cry.
All I want to do is love you.
We got to move on, We got to move on.
We got to move on.
So it's a great fucking song.
I feel like, Bob, we could kick this out as like forgotten jams.
I never hear this anywhere.
Well, so it's interesting.
You say it's the bigger hit.
You look at the Wikipedia page.
According to the charts.
There's a couple reasons why, probably.
97, you're looking at Brand Van getting play just on alternative stations at that time.
They weren't going for top 40.
I don't think they would have crossed over to top 40 CHR radio at all.
So you would have only been getting the spins at CFOX in Vancouver and CFMY here.
Isn't that interesting?
Power in Winnipeg. getting the spins at CFOX in Vancouver and CFMY here. Isn't that interesting?
Power in Winnipeg.
So this one went for Hot AC.
So Chum FM would have played it. Sure, sure, sure.
So you had way more stations to play it.
But isn't it funny,
like all these years later,
when you mentioned that the other one was nominated,
or did they win for alternative album
or they were nominated or whatever?
Alternative to what?
Because like alternative,
this music,
that music became more mainstream.
Yes.
Which is super cool.
Like in hindsight to look at it.
Well, it's interesting.
Yeah.
In that 97,
if they were up for alternative group of the year,
it would have been interesting to see
who they would have been up against.
You know,
would they have been up against an early,
like some 41 was 2000.
I'd be interested to see
what the alternative scene was like.
I mean,
you know,
at that time you've already established
Sandbox and all these other Canadian, Moist and I mean, at that time, you've already established Sandbox
and all these other Canadian,
Moist and Tea Party,
I Mother Earth, Our Lady Peace.
They're established.
They're not new.
That's right.
So they probably would have...
I would imagine 97,
I bet you Our Lady Peace wins
for alternative of the year
because that's when Clumsy came out.
If there was some sort of way
we could look up this information.
If there was only the internet, right?
In all of our hands.
All right, so I have more to say about Curtis Mayfield,
who I fucking love, okay?
So Curtis Mayfield.
He interlopes.
So here, let me bring in...
Not Kanye, Bob, okay?
Because we did cancel him, right?
Yeah, I guess he is, yeah.
So that jam, Astounded.
Hush now, child.
Woo!
And don't cry.
Your folks might understand you.
By and by.
So there's hints of this jam in that Astounded,
which features, of course, the same vocalist.
But another good jam.
When I hear this song, though, now what I think of
is I think of Election Day in Baltimore
when Cuddy Wise is going for a run with his Walkman
and he throws on this jam.
Vote for Karketty.
All right, I've been hogging all the time here,
but it is time to return
to Mr. Bob
Willett anything you want to say before
your second jam
well it's my obligatory addition to
every time I appear
oh
a man lies in his bed in a room with no door.
He waits, hoping for a present, something, anything to enter.
After spending half his life searching, he still felt as blank as the ceiling at which he stared.
He is alive, but feels absolutely nothing.
So is he.
When he was six, he believed that the moon overhead followed him.
By nine, he had deciphered the illusion,
trading magic for fact.
No tradebacks.
So this is what it's like to be an adult.
If he only knew now, what he knew then.
I'm open.
I will pray
I will pray Call me
Call me
Call me
Call me
Just one more little spoken word.
I had no idea Bob liked Pearl Jam.
I know.
Mind blow.
Eddie Vedder is open I'm open
Call me
Call me Call me
Call me
Talk more, Eddie.
He's got one more coming up.
It's a little longer than I thought.
Although it is already a talk rock song.
The music is so good.
I'm sideways atop crumpled sheets and no cover
as he decides to dream.
Mix is weird. Dream up a new self
before himself.
There you go.
Wow. What say you, Mr.
Ouellette, about
I'm Open 1996.'m Open, 1996.
Very turbulent years for Pearl Jam.
Jack Irons is the drummer, who is, of course,
the original drummer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, pre-Chad.
And Jack's got this really cool vibe.
He's all over this album.
It's my favorite Pearl Jam album.
Which album is this?
This is No Code, 1996.
It's a Neil Young album.
It's when they were hanging out with Neil Young.
No, it's true. Yeah, they were hanging out with Neil Young. No, it's true.
Yeah, they were hanging out with Neil Young a ton.
But there's an interesting way that the band works
is they all come together.
Eddie basically writes almost all the lyrics.
And then this particular one, this was Jack's.
It's interesting.
This is Jack's jam,
but there's no drums on it hardly at all, right?
But it's so cool.
Yeah.
Like just the vibe of the whole thing.
Right.
And obviously, so it's basically just the vibe of the whole thing and obviously
so it's basically just the only sung words are i'm open and then there's the little monologue
at the beginning and uh what's interesting i'll give you an example uh you know somebody who's
seen the band so many times um this is one of their rarest performed songs they i've never seen
them play so here's here's the deal so off that same album is Wishlist and Hail Hail.
Two of the bigger songs off that.
They've performed Wishlist
250 times. They've
performed Hail Hail 247
times. How many times
do you think they have performed I'm Open?
Two times. 16 times.
Wow. Including just
this past September in Hamilton, if you were there.
I was there. I'd never seen them do it.
It was crazy.
Now the interesting part is he doesn't do the voiceover hardly.
Like he just kind of,
they play it,
come,
come in.
He does the singing and it goes out,
but he does.
I have a feeling.
Cause when I listen to that now and I read the,
the,
the lyrics of,
of,
of the little monologue,
they're almost like,
I feel like they're a little high school for Eddie.
I actually like,
it's neat.
And it's,
but when you hear about some of the other stuff that he's done,
it seems like it seems almost forced a little bit as a fan,
you know,
a man lies in a bed.
And I was like,
really Eddie?
Like it just,
it's the only time I've ever kind of looked at his lyrics and gone,
Oh,
okay.
But,
but it is definitely a talk rock song and anything
off that, I love anything off that album.
It's super cool. It's a cool song.
Mike Epple chimes in on
Twitter of all places to tell us
a great talk rock song
that none of us are going to kick out tonight,
which maybe an omission on our part,
Somewhere Down the Crazy River.
Robbie Robertson has a talking
part in that.
Oh man, this has given me some good vibes or whatever he says. Somewhere Down the Crazy River. Robbie Robertson has a talking part in that. What is that like?
Oh man, this is giving me some good vibes
or whatever he says.
This is bringing back some memories.
Good stuff.
A lot of good talk rock out there.
Holy smokes.
I had a whole list of runners up.
Picking three songs was kind of hard
and I have all these other ones.
Yeah, I had a bunch
but I went with my first three that hit me hard.
I was like, okay.
Me too.
Me too.
All right, Mr. P too. Me too. Alright,
Mr. Pruce.
You ready for your second jam? Ready. Bring it on.
I don't know which one it's going to be. There's two. She's got me dizzy She's taking me to the end
She's got me in her hands
And there's no use In pretending
Christy
Sixty
Christy
Sixty
She drives me crazy
I want to give her What I've got Here it comes. Is that Gene Simmons who was gonna have her?
Yeah.
Okay, we'll dedicate this to Biff Naked's husband, Snake.
Okay, tell us about Kiss.
This guitar solo right here.
That guitar solo.
So it was Ace Frehley playing it, but
when Gene did the original demo, it was
Alex Van Halen and Eddie doing the demo.
And apparently Gene made Ace Frehley
copy Eddie's solo. So basically that's an
Eddie Van Halen solo, which I did not know.
And he also played of Michael Jackson.
Bring it back to MJ there.
Wow.
So this was on their album Love Gun, which came out in 77.
And I was obsessed with it when I was 11 years old.
And I was in a band.
We played a lot of Kiss songs, and we certainly played this song.
And our drummer used to do the voiceover.
Nice.
And, of course, we were closer to the appropriate age to be obsessed with a 16-year-old girl.
Because we were only 11 and 12.
We were aiming high.
Gene was aiming low.
Oh, yeah. Yep. We got to cancel him, 12. We were aiming high. Gene was aiming low. Oh, yeah.
Yep.
We got to cancel him, too.
They're all gone.
Everyone's gone.
But you got my extra track to play related to this song.
I did. In fact, I won't spoil it.
This is fascinating to me.
But because I knew what I was going to play next,
I was listening for it in the song.
It's front and center. Yep. Prevalent. Oh, before you do that. Yeah, man. I was listening for it in the song. It's front and center.
Yeah.
Prevalent.
Oh, before you do that.
Yeah, man.
Can you play the beginning
of the song again?
And I want to do
a little musical theory
thing for you
and I'll show you.
Oh, yeah.
That's why you're here.
You're here to do
the musical theory.
So this song used to blow my mind
when I was a kid
because I would start playing.
It starts with the piano.
That's why I love to play it
because it's the piano.
All right.
Like this.
Yeah.
But now, okay, hold it for one sec.
So what happens is that the song starts at the end of a beat.
It sounds like it starts on a downbeat like this.
Hold up for one sec.
It sounds like it goes one and two and one and two.
But it's actually and one and two and one and two.
And every time I would play it,
my brain would get switched around
because I was getting the wrong beat
because I was only 11.
Interesting.
It's sort of interesting if you're a musician. No, it's totally interesting. If you like Rick Beato, that's like the wrong beat because I was only 11. Interesting. It's sort of interesting
if you're a musician.
No, it's totally interesting.
If you like Rick Beato,
that's like a mind blow.
I find that interesting.
No, that's amazing.
And I think this mind blow
coming up is a good one.
I think even Stu Stone himself
would be,
that's a good mind blow.
Really?
Okay.
Okay.
That's high praise.
Are you ready, Bob Lillette?
I am.
You're going to hit yourself
for not knowing in real time
because I should have known
in real time.
But here I go.
There it is.
There's a real obvious one coming up.
That's actually the song All Right Now by Free.
Yeah.
I was going to say there's more than one in there.
But here it comes.
Yeah, that's it.
Nice.
So that straight out of Kiss's Christine. Nice.
So that that straight out of
Kisses, Christine
16.
Funky cold Medina. Well, actually, no joke.
This song's been cancelled.
I know everything's been cancelled.
Because it's like he's drugging them.
Yeah, it's got the too much Bill Cosby vibes.
And there's also Sheena was a man.
There's that line as well.
Oh yeah,
well we can't cancel.
You can't do that.
I saw Tone Luke play
in Myrtle Beach.
No!
I was down there
in the 80s,
or late 80s,
whenever it was,
with my girlfriend
and her family
and he was playing
in this little club
and we're like,
let's go see Tone Luke.
It was so weird
but it was fun.
This guy can act too, man.
I'm telling you.
But we're not going to
cancel all the
Austin Powers movie because one of the big jokes
that we laughed at at the time and today
it makes us angry and disgusted is like
she's a man, baby.
This is the kind of shit we laughed at
the day. The Crocodile
Dundee, that Sheila's a man.
That's a bad Aussie accent.
It was bad. He had to work on that, Bob.
Considering the hat I'm wearing, I shouldn't be
able to pull off
the Aussie accent.
Another shrimp on the bar
before you, Bob.
You know the band Gin Blossoms
did a cover of Christine 16 as well.
No.
There's a fantastic tribute album
that came out in 94
called Kiss My Ass.
Oh, I know that.
Right?
Yeah.
And Lenny Kravitz
did a super cool,
God, I forget which one he did,
but anyways, Gin Blossoms.
Rock City or something like that?
Maybe, yeah.
The whole album was so good though,
but Gin Blossoms did Christine 16. I can say guys of a certain, I shouldn't say guys, maybe I will say guys, did but anyways gin blossom rock city or something like that maybe yeah the whole album was so good though but gin
blossoms did christine
i can say guys have a
certain i shouldn't say
guys maybe i will say
guys though but people
of a certain age yeah
really love kiss like
if kiss hits you when
you're like you're
talking about 12 or
13 or whatever it's
there forever man you
don't shake that yeah
it's it's interesting
you just talk to
someone like even like
seven years older than
me yes and if they get a whole different
outlook on Kiss. That's exactly what it is. Because I'll be honest
with you. Yeah. I would
say I could take or leave Kiss but I usually leave them.
Yeah, yeah. I only take them because I
love them so much when they were on the top 40 with
Rock and Roll All Night. So from that point
it was my first introduction to like rock and
roll. And I look at it now and I think oh my
God, I hear the stories of how they were just such
a machine and they were so ruthless in the things that they did. Sure. And they would bring other musicians and I think, oh my God, I hear the stories of how they were just such a machine and they were so ruthless
in the things that they did. And they would bring other
musicians. But they were
really driven to do the things that they did.
And I think that's kind of cool.
What's your Kiss Army number? Candidate Kev wants to know.
761. Nice.
I don't really have one.
You had to be going for a minute.
I don't really have one.
I'm like that low? You're that quick on the draw here.
I used to have
the cultures on my bedroom.
So I asked
correspondent Dan Jay,
whose daughter I met
at a Blue Jay game,
by the way,
if it's the right Dan.
I think it is.
Who's this coming in here
saying, okay,
DJ Dream Doctor
says, hello, Rob Pruce.
But back to Dan
for a moment here.
I asked,
what won single of the year
at that
Oscars, that Juno
Awards, because Brand Band won album
of the year. The winner was
Building a Mystery
by Sarah McLachlan.
And you had, you just, Leahy
beat them for new band or something?
New artist. There you go.
That's some CanCon right there for you.
I love it. Best new group.
Yeah, I did meet Dan's daughter. I you go. That's some CanCon right there for you. I love it. Best new group.
Yeah, I did meet Dan's daughter.
I remember that.
Okay.
He confirmed I have the right Dan.
All right, good.
Lots of Dans out there.
Cambria doesn't know what Jokeroo is.
They haven't... They're still warming up to Koyan bands.
We can't force people.
What's he trying to do?
There were some Stu Cam fans
that haven't quite caught on to the new Toast crew yet.
But you know what? Fuck them.
They can't get on board.
Look, we're doing the best we can.
We never did acknowledge why they're not here.
Not because we don't invite them.
First of all, I would not end this Toast, actually.
Because I've fallen in love with this
Koi and Vance Toast.
So I would hope to continue Koi and Vance Toast.
But I would, of course, welcome back Classic Toast.
But Classic Toast didn't want to come over.
One couldn't come over.
Three in a row didn't want to come over.
Three now.
It was December.
I'm not going to kidnap them.
December, January, February.
Kidnap them and bring them here.
That's not cool.
But you could continue two versions of toast.
There could be toast day and toast week.
They would be two.
And then maybe one day there's a big event where we unite the Toast.
But I only have the four mics.
So maybe that's the one.
I opt out of that one maybe.
We should do that for sure.
We'll do it.
Okay.
All right.
Funky Cole Medina.
See, he can still play Wild Thing.
It's Funky Cole Medina that's not so cool in the Bill Cosby era.
She was a man.
Come on, guys.
It's the line.
I'm just,
I just went to a local person.
Can I tell you a fun true story
that you may find interesting, Bob,
because you produce
Humble and Fred show.
Colin Mochrie was put on the show
last week.
Okay.
No Fred.
It was actually guest Fredding
was Maureen Holloway.
Oh, nice.
And the first line
to Colin Mochrie from Humble
was a joke about how,
no, Maureen is not Fred Patterson transitioning into a woman.
Right.
That was the first joke.
Okay.
Hey.
And by the way, this is not an issue,
except I'm the only one who maybe noticed,
because Colin Mochrie has a transgender daughter.
Oh.
It's that gif of Homer Simpson backing into the bush.
Yeah.
So I'm watching live, and I kind of was watching Colin closely,
and he did take a while to warm up.
It kind of set him off on the wrong toe,
but he's too much of a pro to make a deal out of it.
Howard didn't know.
No, Howard didn't know.
I didn't put in the notes.
And he wasn't.
No transgender jokes, Howard.
It wasn't a transgender joke.
It was a joke about Fred, is what I, but no, Maureen is not.
It's kind of too close to a transgender joke
for somebody whose daughter is a transgender.
Yes, okay, so given that aspect, agreed.
I think the spirit of the joke,
and again, I'm a huge comedy fan.
I love stand-up and I love dissecting comedy.
Yeah, so tell me the joke then.
Tell me what the joke is.
I think the butt of the joke is Fred Patterson,
not what Fred would look like with makeup on or something.
You know, I don't know.
I don't, man.
It's too close for comfort.
I know, my lefty Toronto.
And Colin did not make it an issue, so no one made it an issue.
It's a non-issue, except I thought I'd just bring it up because we were talking about it.
I couldn't imagine.
You know what?
I have to, I mean,
the show that we did,
the show of them that I produced,
we could not have done,
we still,
and I didn't think we were shock jocks,
or they were shock jocks,
and I didn't think they were all that inappropriate.
We couldn't do half the content that we did then,
in from 97 to 2000.
I believe that too, yeah.
Even Jesse and Gene would always start off with the indigenous chant or
whatever the,
the,
Hey,
how are you thing?
Like,
and they did that for me like five years ago.
Unrelated.
How can the Kansas city chief still exist?
Somebody was just,
sorry.
I just,
okay.
But,
but,
but the,
the Washington had to go,
the,
the Cleveland's gone.
Washington's gone.
Cleveland's gone.
Blackhawks are still around.
But the Atlanta Braves are still around.
Well, this is my point.
So how come the Edmonton Eskimos no longer exist?
How come we're almost there?
Because no one forces you to change.
They all kind of decided unto themselves to change.
So it's up for ownership to change it. I don't think the NFL is going to dictate that,
oh, you have to change your nickname, Kansas City.
I think it's got to come from within.
And the Redskins was a next level,
next level offensive.
Oh, it was, yeah.
And the most offensive thing about the Kansas City team
is that they still do that tomahawk chop.
Yes, I know.
That is really...
Is Julie Black an FOTM?
No, you know what?
No, but I have Donovan Bailey was here today for his show,
and we played her version of the anthem and talked about it. No, you know what? No, but I have Donovan Bailey was here today for his show,
and we played her version of the anthem and talked about it.
And yeah, I love it.
Cool.
I think it's great.
She's not lying.
It's a great line.
I don't know if you saw it at the All-Star Games.
At the All-Star Games, change one word for our home on native land.
Fair enough.
There you go.
I hired her once at Proud FM for our anniversary show.
She did a show for us at the, actually at the theater at the National Ballet School on Jarvis.
Oh, wow.
What a beautiful, beautiful venue.
And I think it was like a soft-seater.
I think we had maybe 600 people there.
And we didn't know what, you know,
you don't know what to expect.
You pay somebody.
It was a charitable event, but you pay them
to go do their thing.
And she came with a three-piece band
and holy moly
she blew the place away. I get chills when I
think about it. She literally is lying on the floor
at one point after I can't remember what.
Crying. She's crying. It was like, this was
worth every penny and it was amazing.
So, I mean, kudos to her, but she should be an
FOTM, I would think.
Well, let's do it. Call her up.
Tell her to get her answer. I'll get somebody from Universal Music. Well, let's do it. Call her up. Tell her to get her eyes open.
I'll get somebody from Universal Music.
I would love to do it.
Of course.
Yeah, let's do it.
But then I know you don't like going through publicists.
But I mean, it's a reality that sometimes I have to go through publicists.
All right.
Sorry, we're off.
All right.
My second jam, similar to my first jam.
My second beer.
In that, I think there's a lot of the talking off the top.
Okay, here we go.
No, I don't care.
Hey, I got Penny.
Hey.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes. I'm not sure you know what I mean. I'm really just a woman. It's easy to go first in love.
It's easy to go first in love.
I want to know how you're feeling.
I need to stay in touch with you.
I'm not sure if I'm the right person.
Three important rules for breaking up.
Don't put off breaking up when you know you want to.
Belonging to the situation only makes it worse.
Tell them honestly, simply, kindly, but firmly.
Don't make a big production.
Don't make up an elaborate story.
This will help you avoid a big tear-jerking scene.
If you want to date other people, say so.
Be prepared for the boy to feel hurt and rejected.
Even if you've gone together for only a short time and haven't been too serious,
there's still a feeling of rejection when someone says she prefers the company of others to your exclusive company.
But if you're honest and direct and avoid making a flowery emotional speech when you break the news,
the boy will respect you for your frankness.
And honestly, he'll appreciate the kind of straightforward manner in which you told him your decision.
Unless he's a real jerk or a crybaby.
You're made friends.
I'm popular.
I'm popular.
I'm a quarterback.
I'm popular.
My mom says I'm a catch.
I'm popular.
I'm never last picked picked I got a dream chick
Being attractive is the most important thing
Well, you're getting a vibe for the kind of jams I dig
because good follow-up for drinking in L.A., I think.
But Popular by Natasurf.
This is from
1996.
This is their very first single.
So that was also
Brand Band 3000's very first
single. The Talk Jams
make good first singles. Okay.
This, the spoken word you're
hearing right now, well, not this
part, but the other part where he goes you
know gives the advice on like dating advice or whatever that is uh straight out of a book called
penny's guide to teenage charm and popularity that's amazing so literally verbatim like this
part here more able to deal with weird situations and get to know more people i think if you're
ready to go out with johnny now's the time to tell him about your one month limit he won't mind I love this fucking song.
I don't want to talk over it. Am I alone or is this a fucking great song?
It's a cool song.
Great song.
Great, great song.
I remember the first time I heard it, 96, right?
It came out?
Yeah.
Would have been on Club 102 Saturday nights.
Streak would have been playing it with DJ Dwight or maybe Paul Dinkler before that.
And just hearing it for the first time.
And it got into regular rotation on CFNY too.
But I remember hearing it with Streak and I was just like, this is a cool song.
It's very 1996.
It's so 96.
But that's what I love about it.
But I love the 90s, Rob.
Of course. It is very 1996. It's so 96. But that's what I love about it. But I love the 90s, Rob. Yes, of course.
It is very 96.
But see, the thing is,
because I'm just enough older than you guys
that I love music.
You do the same thing.
Every decade's got some cool shit, right?
70s has got their thing.
80s has got their thing.
90s has got their thing.
And I love as time goes away from it,
it becomes easier to identify.
If I think of 96 and a sound like this,
I'm like...
Yeah,
that makes sense.
Yeah,
for sure.
Can you differentiate
the first decade
of the 2000s
from the second decade
of the 2000s?
I can.
I can.
I can.
Bob can.
I can.
I mean,
only because I was a DJ
in a club.
Does it have a sound?
I mean,
I'm not talking about
which song.
How would you define
the sound?
Or like...
Yeah,
so for pop music specifically,
now,
so it's interesting because I've been thinking about coming on here
and talking about, you know, I have a conversation just about music
and about the last time I was excited about music and stuff.
And I'm a rock guy at heart.
But the music that I program on radio is pop music, generally speaking.
It's been a while since I've been in rock radio.
But if I was going to define sounds for the early 2000s versus
the, you know, the aughts versus the tens of teens.
Yeah.
I mean, there's that tropical house sound.
They called it the Kygo, Justin Bieber, that, uh, in the early 2000s.
No, no.
I would say, I would say like going into the tens.
Yes.
Is that like story?
Like that whole.
Yeah.
So exact story is the exact song I'm thinking about.
That's what I think of when you say that.
So that particular sound.
And, you know, the early 2000s was definitely,
was more bubblegum-y pop.
Like the Katy Perrys were early 2000s for me.
Then there's nuances within there too.
You know, I think you can't ignore the hip-hop influence,
the Drake stuff.
The weekend is later on.
And for me, it feels like as we got into the 21st century,
music started splintering
and people started losing the sense of collective listening
where there were many successful areas to go into.
Like for me, when I think of the early 2000s,
I think of music like, well, Coldplay was brand new in 2000 2001 and then I got bands
like Sigur Rós
and discovering music
when there were still
record stores
you could go to
listening stations
discover new things
and imported things
because I wasn't necessarily
tuning into
mainstream radio stations
or even a college station
but there was people
there was avenues
to discover music
so it started splintering off
so I think everybody
has their definition
of the decades
going forward.
Whereas the 90s would be easier to say, hey, this is so...
The 90s and the 80s and the 70s.
Because we were all listening to the same radio station,
so much music and all that shit.
Okay, so that Popular by Natasurf and, of course,
Drinkin' in L.A. by Brandfam 3000,
two songs that scream 90s.
Yeah, but fantastically.
Yeah, okay, so fun fact.
I'll give you a chance to answer.
I doubt you know, but do you know what the original name of Natasurf was?
What was their original name?
It was-
Rainbow Butt Monkeys.
They're from Burlington.
That's true.
That's true.
Helicopter was the original name of the band.
Bad SEO on that one.
I would deem, well, they changed it.
I would deem Natasurf like a perfect example of a one
hit wonder. Because I
couldn't name another Not A Surf song.
Can anyone else name a Not A Surf song?
No, I think you're right. I mean, I'm
sure there's a Not A Surf fan out there going, you guys
suck, you don't realize. But no, I
would say they are a one hit wonder for sure. But they were definitely a band
that when you just hear the name, it evokes
an era and a memory, even
without a specific song.
As soon as you hear it, not a surf.
I can picture that era.
One in Wonder for sure, but then I was digging into
their arsenal, their
catalog.
Arsenal catalog. And this cover
of Pixies, Where Is
My Mind, is really fucking good.
So I just want to say, I thought
Pixies, Where Is My Mind, which we're all Fight Club
fans here.
Give it a moment
here and let me know what you think.
Where is my mind?
Where is my mind?
Where is my mind?
Bob wants to speed it up.
Anyway.
I don't want to speed it up.
No, I was saying I hear a shaker in there.
Probably.
Shaker is very popular.
I'm not a musicologist.
Rob, you're not a musicologist.
You don't have a PhD in musicology?
Here's an out of surf cover of Where's My Mind.
I guess it was a Pixies tribute.
I like it very much. But one more fun fact
before we get to the
third jam from Bob
Ouellette.
Who do you think
produced Popular?
Not this song.
Popular by Natasurf.
Who produced that song?
Butchvig.
That's a good guess.
Sure.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Any hints?
Yeah.
He's no longer with us.
I guess that's also a hint but
member of a band that has bad
SEO
like the band
who has a generic name
yeah I think this band is terrible
SEO this band
SEO search engine
optimization
if the band's name is
That was my life for years.
That was my livelihood forever
was search engine marketing
which included SEO.
That's really cool.
It's one of the many components.
But Rick Okasik.
Oh, really?
Produced popular by Net-A-Serve.
Isn't that a mind blow for you?
Okay.
That's a good mind blow.
And hold on to that
because we're going to revisit that.
But I do want Bob to speak to his third jam unless he wants me to just kick it.
I think we should just kick it because I only have one fact about it.
And it's just a cool song that, again, if you listen to CFMY in the 90s, it was huge.
Cool.
I got facts about it too.
I love this song.
Here we go.
Love it.
Love it.
Love it.
Love it.
Love it.
Love it.
Everybody, you're pulling up some rubbery.
Get up, you.
Molly Picks move. Come on, let's execute every motherfucking last one of you.
Shame on me.
Action.
I hate that. Fast tatted with the Said it's time to blow, you know So I had to go, we go back to the ride Steve inside in the lot Mark the drive
See, I hurt my lower lumbar
You know we never get far
Riding around, eight stolen police cars
So we dropped it off
And piled in the cabin
Steve was driving
Cause I had to talk to my man
I don't know anything about any setup
You can torture me all you want
Torture you, that's a good idea.
I like that.
Running around robbing banks all whacked up with scooby snacks.
Running around robbing banks all whacked up with scooby snacks.
When I was adding Bob Billette to the new crew, the new toast crew,
my only hesitation was he was too much like me.
I was going to say, I remember that.
You guys, fun fact.
And I like the idea that the cam and there was a hole, there was a different thing.
And I knew Bob was different.
He's proven it, which is amazing.
But I thought Bob, oh, he's going to kick off Pearl Jam and Scooby Snacks.
And I'm going to kick off Pearl Jam and Scooby Snacks.
And it's going to be like that.
I love it.
Talk to me about this.
Yeah, great CFY jam.
Yeah, I mean, Fun Loving Criminals out of California, I believe.
There's a trio.
Are you cool?
I am cool.
Nice.
Obviously, those are clips from Quentin Tarantino movies, from Reservoir Dogs.
And Quentin Tarantino, here's my fun fact.
Yeah, you can be the same fun fact. Go ahead.
Quentin Tarantino demanded a
writing credit on the song and gets
37.5% of all the royalties
on this song. So sure, you could do it,
but you're paying me.
And at that time, I mean, you think about it,
this comes out, I mean, Pulp Fiction had been out,
this comes out in 96.
So he's already,
Tarantino's already on his way,
but somebody in Tarantino's camp said,
you can't let him.
The only reason this song is successful
is because of your clips.
It's all the clips.
You know,
that being said,
the hook is very, very hooky.
They had one other song,
Korean Bodega,
which got a little bit of play.
Yes, yes. Yeah, it which got a little bit of play. Yes.
Yeah.
It's just a fun, silly song.
As a guy who loved and still do love most of Tarantino's stuff, Pulp Fiction is by far my favorite movie.
You know what's my favorite movie, too?
Is it?
I'm not surprised.
Of all time.
I know.
It's not a shocker to hear a Gen X guy say it's your favorite movie of all time. Pulp Fiction.
What's Rob's favorite movie of all time?
Favorite movie of all time?
Oh my God, I don't really have one.
No?
You can't pick one?
King Kong.
Which version?
The Fay Wray?
The Fay Wray?
Yeah.
Wow, all right.
That goes back to Magic Shadows and TV Ontario when I was a kid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Love Magic Shadows.
But I love lots of movies.
Yeah, I mean, if I'm forced to pick one, which for some reason I'm
often forced to. Alright, we have a beef with that pick
and I'm agreeing with Kevin. Canada Kev
brings this up and I actually agree. I don't
think it qualifies. It's speaking in it.
I know. But it's a sample.
It doesn't matter. It's a speaking.
There was no rule.
Okay, fine. It counts.
I feel like the talking
in the song should be an original part of the song, not a sample.
Well, now you're putting caveats and asterisks.
I mean, and I picked this knowing you'd love this, by the way.
If, you know, if Stu had kicked out of that jam, I know Cam would tell him to just fuck off.
I think that's what would happen there.
Well, we're much more gentlemanly.
We are kind to each other.
Yeah, we're much more gentlemanly.
I appreciate all the good qualities.
Because none of us went to high school together.
That gives you a different license.
That's true.
When we
came up with... I pushed for family
jams because it was after
Family Day weekend and you guys wanted to do talk rock.
But it's too far removed from
Family Day. It's the day after.
I know we kicked out family jams
at some point. Did you? Okay, I wasn't involved.
So that's when we invented
the term Hanson's.
Oh, right.
When you raise an obvious pick
it's because we Hanson's.
Okay, fair enough.
I just, you know,
there was a couple
that came to mind.
Another, I don't,
I won't say.
Well, you know what,
save it just in case
I kick it out.
But I will shout out
a couple of choices
that are not going to get
kicked out today
that came out
in the live chat here.
One, which is,
in retrospect, pretty obvious,
I think, One Night in Bangkok by Murray Head.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That would be great.
And that, of course...
Somebody had Numb U2 out there.
Yeah, I saw that on Twitter.
Yes, Numb by U2.
And Marin Cadell's The Sweater.
Yes.
88 Lines About 44 Women was another one that came to mind.
What's that?
88 Lines.
That's got to be 88.
That's how many keys are on a keyboard.
The Nails.
88 Lines About...
Oh, it's a CFNY song.
You'll know it for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Because the name is so cool.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that would be...
Unless that's your pick, Mike.
I don't know.
Not my pick.
Not my pick.
Well, maybe if we can get it up.
Yeah.
It's really cool.
It came to me afterwards.
Okay, well, play to the end.
And that Buzz Lerman Sunshine song is one of them. Oh, Sunscreen. Sunscreen it up, you'll have to. It's really cool. It came to me afterwards. Okay, well, play to the end. And that Buzz Lerman
Sunshine song is one of them.
Oh, Sunscreen.
Sunscreen.
That one's out there.
Anyways.
Hot for Teacher has
Talking in that one, right?
But yeah.
Okay.
But I think our choices
are really good, actually.
So I'm going to
pass the mic to Rob Proust.
My third choice.
And.
Actually, this was
possibly my first choice
like the first thing
that came to my mind
oh cool
that's why I'm closing with it
but I'm closing with it
because I think
it could get a little sentimental here
the cleanest box is right here Rob
I don't know if you need it
but here let's kick it Are you lonesome tonight?
Do you miss me tonight?
Are you sorry we drifted apart?
Does your
memory stray
to a
brighter summer
day
when I kissed you
and called you
sweetheart
Do the chairs
in your parlor
seem empty
and bare
Do you gaze
at your doorstep
and picture
me there
Is your heart
Filled with pain
Shall I come back again
Tell me dear
Are you lonesome tonight
I wonder if You're lonesome tonight.
You know someone said the world's a stage and each must play a part.
Fate had me playing in love with you as my sweetheart.
Act one was where we met.
I loved you at first glance.
You read your lines so cleverly and never missed a cue.
Then came Act Two.
You seemed to change.
You acted strange.
And why, I've never known.
Honey, you lied when you said you loved me
And I had no cause to doubt you
But I'd rather go on hearing your lies
Than to go on living without you
Now the stage is bare
And I'm standing there
With emptiness all around
And if he won't come back to me
Then they can bring the curtain down
Is your heart filled with pain
Shall I come back again tell me dear are you lonesome to mine
love it cool is that song i mean mean, ridiculously old-fashioned, right?
I fucking love Elvis.
I do, too.
I love Elvis.
We had Elvis records in my house when I was a kid,
so I always just knew this song.
And so the first thing, when I thought of spoken word,
I always thought of this endless Elvis speech
in the middle of the song.
Yes, right.
But researching about the song, it was written in 1926.
Right.
So it was an old song,
and apparently it was Colonel Tom Parker,
Elvis' manager,
Tom Parker's wife's
favorite song.
Tom Hanks.
Yes, exactly.
It was his wife's favorite song.
She's like,
get Elvis to sing this song.
And it's worth noting
that spoken word part
that Elvis does,
he does it verbatim
like it was done prior.
Like he's covering that part.
If you go back
to your old version,
there's an amazing version
of Al Jolson doing it
in the 40s.
And it's freaky
because I don't think
I realized,
I mean,
I only ever think
of this song.
It sounds like he's
improvising or something.
But the lines,
the part of the lines
are based on this opera
called Pagliacci.
I was going to say,
isn't there an opera
part to this?
A little bit
and there's a little bit
of Shakespeare
when he says
all the world's a stage
so it sort of references
that as well.
I thought that was Rush.
Of course.
It comes with that as well.
But it's that idea
that that stuff
was all scripted out and like I always thought Elvis feels like he's just riffing on this but it's not. It comes with that as well. But it's that idea that that stuff was all scripted out.
I always thought Elvis feels like he's just riffing
on this thing, right? But it's not. It's this old song
from the 20s. And so there were
versions of it before he did it.
But yeah, I always loved it. So
my dad did this song as well. Oh, wow.
Do you have my version? Because you have to do...
Okay. So my dad was like Eddie
Better. He didn't do the spoken word though.
Which is hilarious. He recorded this in Germany
like maybe 15 years ago or so.
What?
He had this German producer
who he would go over to his house
and like help
and the guy's wife
would do the background vocals
for my dad.
And your dad did this for what?
For fun?
Just for fun, yeah.
Yeah, my parents were living in Germany.
Right.
And then they moved back to Canada
and he went back in the summertime
and he would work on this.
Okay, let me hear your dad for a bit here.
Your late great father.
Wait till he starts singing in German.
When I kissed you and called you sweetheart.
It's your dad.
Do the chairs in your parlor seem empty
and bare
Wow!
Until he gets to the German, it's even better.
And picture
me there
It'd be funny if he just starts a yes.
I think it was like
99 Love Balloons or something.
Shall I come back
again?
Tell me dear Are you lonesome tonight? What was your dad's name?
Joachim.
A good German name.
That's like Joseph in German, right?
Like Joachim Phoenix.
Yeah.
You don't have to play the whole thing
because he doesn't do the spoken word,
which is the purpose of...
It's cool.
It's cool though, right?
Well, I'm playing it
because he just passed away.
Thank you.
Thank you for playing it.
I'm having a moment here, Rob.
Good voice though.
Yeah.
At the beginning,
I thought it was Leonard Cohen.
I'm like, what's going on?
But now you do have to play the third version as well.
That's very important. Your dad just...
Was he a performer before?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He played in bands in the 50s.
That's what I mean.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Here's the spoken.
I wonder if you're lonesome today.
You should be doing it in German.
You know, someone said the whole world is a stage.
This is me and my dad doing a duet now.
Oh, nice.
Fate had me playing enough.
Act one was when we met.
You should reissue this.
You read your lines so cleverly.
I never missed a cue.
Then came act two.
You seemed to change.
And you acted, too.
But I think he starts singing again.
Is this? Short version.
Wow.
That's great.
Nun geht's ohne mich.
Sind die Träume schon da?
Ist der Schatten dir nah?
Der dich fragt, bist du einsam heut' Nacht?
Bist du einsam heut' Nacht? Nice.
Is Are You Lonesome Tonight in German.
It's beautiful.
Thank you for playing that.
Are you lonesome tonight?
It's the live.
Do you miss me?
Do you want to give it a little context
before it unravels?
This is called the laughing version.
Listen to the words.
The words.
Does your memory stray
to a brighter summer day when I kissed you and called you sweetheart?
Do the chairs in your par head and wish you had left?
Do you draw with pain?
Shall I come back?
Tell me, dear, are you lost?
It sounds like they're playing a song.
Oh yeah.
I wonder how.
Not so much that the world's a stage and you're supposed to play a part.
stage and he's supposed to play a part.
Is it an O-take from the comeback special?
It's live, yeah.
Oh, God.
Oh, man. Oh, man.
I love it
I had no cause to die
those are good painkillers
swing it baby
that's great
shall I come back again tell me dear Do you know where it's from?
It was recorded in August of 69.
Just a live album.
But it was released in 82 and went up the charts in England.
Wow.
It's crazy.
It's mind-blowing this guy died at 42.
I know.
42.
Right?
Seems like he had a long, full life,
and he's gone at 42.
He left so much stuff in the 42 years,
I mean, in the years that he was around.
And he took three years off to be in the Army,
and he still did all that.
I think when I listened to that first one,
which, going back to it,
you read about, anything you read about it,
you find out how much he,
he really wanted to be taken seriously as an actor.
You want to be taken seriously.
But when you,
I'm also a huge Dean Martin fan,
massive Dean Martin fan.
And when you listen to the way he sang,
Elvis sang ballads,
he was trying to sound like Dean,
like a hundred percent.
If you listen,
listen to Elvis's ballads and listen to old school forties,
Dean,
it's very, he was always got a rock and roll vibe to it,
but he loved Dean.
You could really hear it.
Yeah, I read a bunch of stuff about that.
That's super cool.
Yeah.
And I think that Are You Lonesome Tonight
was the first single he released
when he got out of the army as well.
Oh, is it?
Okay.
They were concerned because they wanted a comeback for him,
and they weren't sure that that was a good way to come back,
but they were like, yeah, let's do it.
So, yeah.
It went right to number one.
Amazing.
All right. Now, the actor, Austin Butler, who portrays him
in the film, is going to win Best Actor.
Get ready for that.
He was just on Hot Ones. It was quite good, actually.
Did you ever watch the thing where they eat hot wings?
Oh, I've heard of it.
Oh, really? Oh, wow.
I think I saw Shaq do that once.
By the way, I just saw Tar.
I'll be very surprised if Cate Blanchett doesn't win Best Actress at these Academy Awards.
I'm making all the predictions today.
Move over, Peter Howell.
Okay, I'm here now.
All right, I have one more jam to go.
I want to shout out Palma Pasta.
Delicious lasagna and Italian food in four locations in Mississauga and Oakville.
Not too far from Burlington.
And Oakville is where Rob Pruess is playing on Thursday night,
the Moonshine Cafe.
You got good security there?
Maybe the FOTMs will just storm the doors.
What are you going to do?
Crush the gate.
I'd let them all in.
There you go, everybody.
Just show up.
It's like Woodstock.
Just climb the fence or whatever.
EPRA, man, this is important for you techie
guys you guys have a lot of tech at home and then you know the tech breaks or it becomes antiquated
and you're like i don't need this tech anymore i don't need this gadget anymore don't throw it in
the garbage don't send it to the landfills there's some dangerous chemicals there's some stuff in
there that needs proper recycling and processing.
Okay.
You go to recycle.
What words am I looking for?
Recycle my, now you know nothing's scripted.
Recyclemyelectronics.ca.
And you can find out the closest place to drop off your old tech for proper recycling.
So thank you, EPRA.
And last but not least,
Canna Cabana will not be undersold on cannabis or
cannabis accessories. And
they're all over this fine province of Ontario.
So if you're a good FOTM,
you get your cannabis at Canna
Cabana.
You guys ready for my last jam?
Very much so. Looking forward
to it. Is it from the 90s?
Yes, sir.
Do you remember
who produced the
popular by
Nada Surf? Do you remember? Yeah, yes.
Rick Olkacic.
Oh, yeah. Yeah?
Same song.
It's the same song.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Hey, Bob.
How you doing, man?
Yeah, man.
That's so nice.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
What's your number? Oh, man. You have a beard? Oh, man. I was going to say Rivers Cuomo produced Not A Surf.
I was.
I fucking love this song. Spoiler alert.
Love this song.
As I walk
away
lots of talking this jam
but I'm not ready to fade it down I have lots of things
to say about it
your show?
it's my fucking show, Bob.
It's not Bob's basement.
We're not in Bob's fucking basement.
I think, I think, and I die.
If you want to destroy my sweater,
hold this thread as I walk away.
And walk away.
Watch me unravel
I'll soon be naked
Light on the door
Light on the door
I've come undone
This is a great jam.
Am I right?
So good.
I just want validation
on all my songs I love. I'm right to love this song, right Rob? Yes, of course. It's a great jam. Am I right? So good. I just want validation on all my songs I love.
I'm right to love this song, right, Rob?
Yes, of course.
It's a great tune.
So this is Undone Dash.
We'll talk about that in a minute.
The sweater song, okay?
It's not a parenthesis?
No.
This would not be allowed for parenthetical jams.
This is a dash song.
That's a very key difference here. It's Undone Dash. Dash the sweater song. The sweater song. Okay, of course, this is a Dash song. That's very key difference here. It's Undone
Dash. Dash the Sweater. The Sweater song.
Okay, of course, this is Weezer.
This is their self-titled
1994 debut.
And a lot of similarities to
Popular by Natasurf, which comes two years
later. Okay, so this comes first.
This song is also
produced by Rick O'Kasek.
That's hilarious.
I almost said, so when you this song is also produced by Rick O'Kasek. That's hilarious. Wow.
I almost said,
so when you said who produced,
I swear to God,
when you said who produced Not A Surf Popular,
and I was about to guess Rivers Cuomo,
but then you said they're no longer with us.
So I didn't make that guess.
I was about to say Rivers Cuomo.
Also similar to Not A Surf
is that this is the very first single
ever issued
by a band called Weezer.
Yeah.
Just like Popular
was the first single
by a band called
Natasurf.
Debut singles for you today.
These are not
one hit wonders.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're right.
All three of mine
are debut singles.
Wow.
And it's like,
this is 94, 96,
and then 97, right?
The spoken bits in the 90s
were, it was a prevalent thing.
It was a thing, yeah.
And it really worked with me as you can tell.'m still i really wish to live in it and i should point out a
playlist this topic was my idea because i realized i like a lot of songs where there's like talking
in the beginning that's cool fucking amazing okay so that spoken introduction you hear in this song
is matt sharp because if you're friends with p you you're friends with me. You remember? Okay. The rentals, right? Okay.
So he, of course, oh, he's talking to a guy named Carl Cook,
I think is how you pronounce his last name.
It's like intermission dialogue between these guys are talking.
Okay.
So I think they're also talking to a fan club member supporter named Michael.
I want to say it's
Alan
Alan Michael Allen he spells Michael
funny but okay so here's a fun fact
I'm going to let
Weezer wrap up here and here's a fun
little mind blow for you I think
in fact I'll go right out of this jam
into another and then
prepare to pick your brains up off of the
mat another and then prepare to pick your brains up off of the mat
i also like the sound of distortion and i like the sound i like it in my song especially at the end
that's all piano yeah i like that too okay
That's all piano too. Yeah, I like that too. Yes.
Yes, guy.
I saw.
Yes.
Saw Rivers talk about this.
Right.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Metallica.
They had another great song called Hero of the Day.
You might have seen it in a Wendell Clark tribute video.
Welcome home.
Sanitarium.
That's right.
That's a parentheses jam, by the way.
And Rivers Cuomo has gone on the record to say,
he says when he wrote Undone Dash the Sweater song,
he was trying to write like a Velvet Underground type song.
Wow.
But then he realized it was actually an inadvertent ripoff of this song by Metallica.
And you can hear it, right?
Oh, completely.
I know.
Given any more Metallica?
Because one of my picks was going to be Metallica, Enter Sandman.
Oh, yeah.
Now I lay me down to sleep.
I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
That was going to be my...
Wow.
Yeah, that was going to be my...
To bring it full circle, that was definitely my fourth selection.
Puppets?
Soft and Last Air Puppets?
Yes.
Yeah.
It's great, right?
Yeah, it's a great album.
Okay, I have another...
I can't remember what I have loaded up here.
Loudest concert I've ever seen, I think.
Yeah, I think so.
Cops Coliseum, the Lode Tour.
Just insanely loud.
Loudest concert I ever saw was Matthew Sweet.
I heard Matthew Sweet was loud.
Sick of myself when I think of you, this Matthew Sweet.
Girlfriend.
Girlfriend. Girlfriend.
Girlfriend.
That's right.
Like, it was like the opera house or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, like, it was just distortion.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That was something I said.
Oh, opera house also sometimes.
The house is not great at opera.
It was so good, though.
Yeah.
It worked.
But this is super cool to hear them in town.
Oh, my gosh, yeah.
So there you go.
I had a good time with this topic.
I like that.
So here's something that came to mind
while we were with the Suicidal Tendency song
that got played.
Was that who we played?
Yeah, in the beginning.
In the beginning?
Yeah, institutionalized.
What about a fellow Canadian act,
and I think a FOTM,
what about I'm an adult now, right?
Sometimes my head hurts,
and sometimes I think it won't be long
until I'm sitting in a room.
It's kind of close.
Some like cheese-eating teenager.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that talking
or is it like singing talking?
I don't know.
It's more talking.
I think it's talking.
Yeah, I think it's talking too.
It came to mind
when we did that.
Especially listening
to the Suicidal Tendencies
really made me think
this sounds like
Pursuit of Happiness,
which is vice versa.
I love that.
Yeah, I'm an adult now.
That's a great jam.
And there's the two versions, right?
You got the original EP and then you got the one that's on Love Junk, which is a versa. I love that. Yeah, I'm an adult now. That's a great jam. And there's the two versions, right? You got the original EP
and then you got the one
that's on Love Junk
which is a different one here.
I'm just going to quickly check in
on the comments here.
Somebody, good point.
The shortest talking jam
might be Sweet Home Alabama
because you just hear
three words at the beginning.
Turn it up.
And that's it.
Well, then you could say,
yeah, I mean, you could say.
But a lot of songs
have like one, two, three.
That's right.
You know, I'm hearing Patience by Guns N' Roses.
Yeah.
One, two, three, four.
Yeah.
Okay.
Holy smokes.
We had a good time here.
We closed out with some Metallica.
Who'd have thunk it?
We were efficient compared to last time, too.
This is shorter than last time.
Yeah, I know.
Fucking hell.
You guys have anything else you want to cover here?
Are you set for
Moonshine Cafe?
A lot of people on
the live chat
disappointed that it's
sold out.
Really?
Yeah, no, I'm pretty
set.
It's going to be like
a flying by the seat
of my pants with some
structure.
Oh, that's fun.
So it's like structured
chaos.
Are we going to get
the Mr. Dress Up theme?
Yeah, you probably will.
Whoa, we saw that at
Team Alex.
I know, you've seen
that already.
Oh, that's going to be
great.
I love playing that
song.
It makes me very happy. It's like my way to Alex. I know, you've seen that already. Oh, that's going to be great. I love playing that song. It makes me very happy.
It's like my way to relax.
I'll have to tell you, my children, their grandfather bought them.
Aren't you their father?
Yeah, no, their father-in-law.
My father-in-law, their grandfather, bought them this little box set of Mr. Dress Up.
And obviously, it's never been part of their lives on television.
But it was a huge part of their childhood. Like a DVD.
The DVDs because there's three DVDs as the full
intro and to the point where my father-in-law actually built them their own
tickle trunk. It looks identical. It's great. That's going to be amazing.
I'm sorry there's an ice storm. I know. I hope I can make it.
I'm sure you'll be able to. I know. I hope I can make it. Yeah, I'm sure you'll be able to.
No, I was always going to be there,
but this changes how I get there.
Right.
That's the big thing.
Because I was always going to bike.
And it's sort of a spiritual thing for me.
It was like, I think I mapped it out.
It was going to be like an 82-minute ride there.
What?
And then the show.
But that 82-minute ride along the lake,
because it's all on Lakeshore.
I'm on Lakeshore.
We're all on Lakeshore.
Right, right, right.
It was going to be that. I love that feeling post-concert of the bike ride all on Lakeshore. I'm on Lakeshore. We're all on Lakeshore. It was going to be that I love that
feeling post concert
of the bike ride home.
I love it.
I love it.
But when ice is
involved I die.
And then really
funeral home as a
new client.
Right.
Feeling not so good.
And then the six
year old is like
all sad.
Like where's my
daddy?
As long as you
don't go too far
down that hole there.
Why didn't we block
I know you said
it's did you ever
reveal the capacity or you just said it's, did you ever reveal the capacity
or you just said it's smaller?
It was 60 people.
Yeah, it's like 60 to 70, I think.
Yeah.
We should have done like a,
at least a 15 person FOTM session.
I know.
Well, maybe there's going to be shows there in the future.
I mean, I'm doing a show,
I'm going back in April,
but that's already sold out as well.
And we were going to do one in May,
which we postponed to maybe like later in the summertime.
So maybe we can do a.
Maybe I can get on the guest list for April.
Yes.
Can I maybe pull some strings for April?
I think you probably can.
I'll pay.
I'll talk to the band.
I'll pay.
He'll pay twice as much.
Yeah, yeah.
What are the Rob Proust tickets going for on like StubHub or whatever?
The live stream is like 11 bucks or something.
Yeah, that's cool.
It's like a good deal.
Yeah.
And that's through...
Eventbrite.
Eventbrite.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I'm your publicist.
Yeah, exactly.
I'll be your publicist.
You know, Bob would be good at that
if you need one.
Oh, I've been asked before
to be somebody's manager once.
Oh, yeah.
I had a band here,
Goodnight Sunrise,
and they were saying,
they were talking about the people,
there's only,
like the people who
try to get you on the radio.
Yeah, radio promoters.
Right.
And there's another term they use,
but yeah,
basically the radio promoters.
And they said, like it's really tough to hook up with a good one.
There's only like five,
they said, good ones in the country or something.
And it just really makes me think,
mama, don't let your kids try to be rock stars.
It just sounds really shitty.
It's a tough gig.
I interviewed with Arts and Crafts when they were to be one.
Also interviewed with Bernie at True they were to be one. Also interviewed with Bernie
at True North Records to be one.
Yeah.
They all ended up going out
at Dine Alone Records.
They all outsource now
to like these independent guys
of which I'm pretty good friends with
most of them.
Sure.
But there are good ones
and there's bad ones.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's some really good ones
and then there's some not so good ones.
Right.
But yeah, there you go.
Tough sledding.
Like it used to be just,
you know, I'm an adult now.
You referenced it a minute ago,
but Mo filmed the video at Queen and Spadina
in a parking lot,
walked the VHS over to 299 Queen Street,
and they took it,
and then it was in high rotation like a month later.
But the system was smaller.
The system was smaller.
That's when something got rotated
and everybody tuned into the same place.
Yeah, it's a lot different.
Playlists are coming from different places.
I haven't been able to do an episode
because I've been in strategic meetings
for my two little stations in Kingston.
I've been busy doing that.
I do have new episodes
coming soon if people want to check it out.
It's Bob's Basement. Please subscribe.
And one of those episodes
will be with former keyboardist Rob Pruce. Absolutely. Please subscribe. And one of those episodes will be with former keyboardist
Rob Proust.
Absolutely. For sure. Will I get a big shout out
in that episode? You get a shout out practically every
episode. You started me. I didn't hear my shout out with
Loretta Swit.
Wow. He was listening though.
Needy. So needy. Here's the way I think
of it. I have this argument with people.
If somebody, I consider you a friend, Bob.
If my friend is going to have a recorded chat with Loretta swit for let's say for 40 minutes or whatever
how can i not listen like what asshole doesn't listen to that well think about seriously what
asshole won't spend 40 minutes to listen to their friend we have a recorded chat with loretta
fucking swit no it's interesting there there is still, I mean, as popular as podcasts are,
and they are, there's still a whole bunch of people
who I think are really, really smart,
really pop culture savvy,
really tuned into things
who just still have not discovered the podcast.
I don't understand.
They just don't.
I don't know.
I don't have time.
Now, look, this is a long podcast.
We're pushing two hours here.
But my podcast, but even like,
I'm like, I love the idea
of 45 minutes to an hour
with somebody I want
to know more about.
I think people still
just aren't there yet.
I think the term podcast
still makes them think
it's some weird new technology
that they're afraid of.
Yeah.
Or NPR,
you know,
it's above them.
But if you could send them
a link and say,
click that play button,
it looks like the one
on your VCR.
And the noise
will come out of your speakers. You don't have to
subscribe.
No, you're right. Are times tough,
Mike? I think you're doing all right, bud. You're doing way better
than me. I know that. You just listen.
I need a Sills rub. I mad at all those so-called Bob friends
who didn't spend 40 minutes with Bob and
Loretta. Yeah, that's all right. I got some new
episodes coming out. Like I said, I'm going to have Rob on. Our friend Doug
Elliott, I think, is going to come on.
And there's a band out of St. Catharines called Lonely Little Kitsch.
They've been featured on Hockey Night in Canada.
And I used to work with one of the members of the band.
And so we've been just trying to reschedule things and get back on it.
Got some episodes coming up.
Good luck on, or break a leg or whatever you say.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
You're a theater guy, so be careful.
Don't go breaking any legs.
That'll be my bike ride on the ice storm.
But thank you, Bob Ouellette, for making the trip.
No worries.
Thanks for having me.
Love seeing you.
Love that outfit.
Can't wait to take a picture of that hat.
Rob Bruce.
I'm going to run out of song, I realized.
Rob Bruce.
I would just play it again.
Always a pleasure, but good to see you in person.
Too many Zooms. I need to see you in person. Too many zooms.
I need to see you in the flesh so I can pinch those cheeks.
And that brings us to the end of our 1209th show.
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Ooh, nice.