Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - TOAST 20: Toronto Mike'd #1327
Episode Date: September 18, 2023In this 20th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out angel jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Pumpkins After... Dark, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.
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Today, returning for this 20th episode of Toast
is Rob Pruce and Bob Ouellette.
Welcome back, guys.
Yeah.
Good to see you.
Good to see you.
Nice to see you.
Happy Sunday night.
Happy Sunday night.
8 p.m. start as per Bob bob willett's writer and you're on time
rob you were well timed as well my my two little ones were doing a pre-game show for the live
that on the chat live chat i see that live dot toronto mic.com they did like kermit the frog
impression really yeah it's gonna be way more entertaining than anything we have
and i actually have in my notes welcome to the backyard but we're not in the backyard
so i really did really good though so i really but we're not in the backyard. So I really did.
It looks really good though.
So I really wanted to do this in the backyard.
It's not raining.
And I don't, it says, Environment Canada says 80% chance of rain from now till 11.
Yeah.
Is it really not raining?
No, no.
There was a sprinkle on the gardener on the way over and that's it.
Yeah.
I had, I went through a sprinkle as well, but I think it's crawling along.
You know what?
I have 20% across the board here.
Okay, well, I'm going back to my source.
Okay, so it's all about, I go to Environment Canada, and I have a 24-hour thing, so I'm
going there right now.
It says 80% likelihood of precipitation, yeah, from now until like 11 p.m.
You know how that actually works, though?
It doesn't mean it's 80% going to rain.
It means that within the area you're in, there is 80 chance it could rain somewhere in there what is the humble
and fred show we're going to talk about weather the whole time anyway that's why we're not in
the backyard anyways it's not going to rain but that's fine the reason well the reason we were
going to be in the backyard yeah is because my house has been down with the plague that's right
yeah uh that's uh tuberculosis. Yeah, exactly.
The black death, whatever.
Okay, well, be more specific.
Do you have COVID?
I do not.
Because you tested negative?
Did you ever have symptoms?
Nothing.
No, no, no.
My last Friday,
so not this past Friday,
my eight-year-old tested positive.
She was feeling bad.
She had a bad night.
We tested her just to be safe
and sure enough,
she tested positive.
Then Monday,
my wife tested positive.
Then Wednesday, my 13- sure enough she tested positive. Then Monday my wife tested positive. Then Wednesday my 13 year old tested
positive and as of this
week now we're
coming up on it'll be you know well over
like 10 days since he's been in the house.
I've continued to test negative every day.
Until this very night. Well it's
the thing right? This is why we were going to be outside.
Well that was out of an abundance
of caution. An abundance of caution. With the rain I said fuck it we'll do the basement i don't think
because you've never had it right rob you said that you avoided it knock on wood good for you
i feel fine yeah i uh it's good you look fine thank you i have uh avoided most uh social settings
to uh ensure this but you know what my uh the rules are so different now too compared to what
it was it goes back to your first symptoms
and you can
still actually be testing positive
and go to work and school.
But I'm doing neither.
So I'm not testing positive and I don't have
any symptoms. I'm comfortable with this decision.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
I'm okay with it all. Now, here, the score
before I'm going to ask Rob
for... He's got a gift for me, Rob, so I'm going to
turn it to him, and then he's going to give me a review
of the Dave Thomas episode of
Toronto Mic'd, which he finally listened to, but the
score is now 11 to 9, so
Cam and Stu
hosted 11 episodes of Toast,
and you guys are at 9. Is this
our 9th or our 10th? This is your 9th.
This is our 9th, okay. So 20th overall,
you guys are at nine.
But Bob, not Bob.
Bob, you're way up.
But Rob, that means you're at at least 11 appearances on Toronto Mike.
Because you did two on your own.
Yeah.
Okay.
Wow.
That's pretty good.
The double digits.
Getting there.
Getting there.
This couple of quick notes.
I did the Terry Fox run this morning.
And a big thank you to everyone who pledged.
Thank you.
Don't sleep on the Bill Viggers episode.
I really loved the Bill Viggers episode.
He was in the van.
The final tally for what we raised for the Terry Fox Foundation is $2,632.
Congratulations.
Nice. Which is, by the way, is the fourth most raised by individuals who ran at High Park.
Nice.
Good for you.
Congratulations.
Number four.
raised by individuals who ran at High Park.
Nice.
Good for you.
Congratulations.
Number four.
In High Park, just for fun,
in the entire country of Canada,
the High Park Terry Fox run generated the eighth most.
Nice.
Amazing.
Yeah, and there's a couple of other Toronto locations higher,
but yeah, the eighth in Canada,
and then we're fourth overall amongst individuals,
and I want to thank everybody.
The target I set was 2,000, we blew by it and that's awesome.
Congratulations. Thank you. Okay, what do you want
to give me, man? Okay, so
every time I
come to see you guys now for nine episodes
or however many, I always have this little stand. Nine, I just said it.
You forgot already? And I wanted to give you guys these little
stands because I'm
spreading the word on how much I'm in love
with these little stands. Foldable stands for your phone. look hey that's a practical gift i like it it's a practical gift
it's beautiful my sister's the one that started using them and then i got obsessed with them
and i bought one for my wife and i've got an extra and i bring it with me like everywhere
because like even at my gigs i keep it on top of my keyboard yeah because it's like this and it's
well it's almost like what you would put in your dash for your but but on your desktop come on now
you need to try it out.
Yeah, I'm going to right now.
Because I feel like
you're going to be a convert as well.
Oh, absolutely.
I like spreading the goodness.
Okay, so I don't...
How do you do it?
So that side goes on the bottom.
Like this?
Nope.
No.
Like that?
Right.
There you go.
Okay, okay, okay, everybody.
There we go.
Look at that.
Here, I think...
Your phone goes there?
It goes up and down.
You can do it up.
You can do it...
It's got a boomy thing.
You can put it in which way.
Yeah, this is great.
Thank you.
But now see,
for referring to your phone
at any place,
then your hand's... It's right there, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to... This man comes bearing gifts. Yeah, this is great. Thank you. But see, for referring to your phone at any place, then your hand's preferred.
It's right there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't have to.
This man comes bearing gifts.
Yeah, thank you so much.
It's made by this company called Memicall, and I don't know who they are, but I ordered
them on Amazon, and I'm just a huge fan of them.
Well, thank you so much.
We might try to get a sponsorship for Toronto Mike.
There you go.
That's very kind.
Thank you.
It pairs nicely with those Minera speakers, I would say.
Those are good little speakers, man.
They got some good sound to them.
Well, they're going to be back.
Shout out to the cuddly one, Al
Grego. The box hands.
The box hands. Yeah, decent sound
for such a little one. Okay, so I've got notes.
I want to ask you each about something, but
Rob Pruess, because you came in the door
and you said, I finally listened to Dave Thomas.
What are your thoughts on that? I loved it.
How long ago did you do that episode?
Well, it was in the best of, so it was sometime
between 1000 and twelve fifty.
Okay, that's right. I wasn't paying attention
to the date, but
I had been so excited to finally listen to it, so when I
drove up a few days ago, I put it on. It might have been a year ago.
Is it? Yeah. God, it was good.
It was just overall entertaining, and I mean,
he's just got a great Canadian cultural
history and the story to
tell anyways, but I thought you
engaged with him so well, and the whole just the story of his life and his and all the impressions, he anyways, but I thought you engaged with him so well and the whole
just the story of his life and his
and all the impressions he just, I mean, he's just
like bust into those things naturally, right? The Bob
Hope impression and even the Max
Monsito impression, you know? You know what?
Looking back, it's like, did that really happen?
Did that happen? It's amazing when
you have those moments in your career. You're like, that's crazy.
You must have so many of them, Rob.
I was in the studio
with and all that. Yeah, same thing.
I get it. I'm very fortunate, and Mike
is too. He gets to do these things.
And you realize that
they're all just like normal people,
but then you think about the things that you know them from
before you knew them, and it's kind of freaky.
Like, I love that. Yeah, it's really cool.
Super cool. But yeah, congratulations on the Dave Thomas.
Thank you very much. Thank you, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Note for Bob, but just before
that, today I watched the Play
the Record documentary.
Did you ever see that? I haven't watched it.
No, I've heard it's terrific.
It's on Prime right now. So I watched the whole thing. It's called
Drop the Needle. If you're on Prime, looking for
it. Like, there's lots of FOTMs
in this thing. Plenty of them.
DJ Ron Nelson, Maestro Fresh West
Danny O
Mastermind
DJ Stunning From Scratch
all these cats
whatever
but there's a shot
of this guy
DJ Grouch
whose real name
is Oscar Betancourt
and I went to
high school with this guy
and I bought a mixtape
off him in grade 10
and I'm certain
it's in
I kept some cassettes
and I'm certain
I kept it
it's a customized
mixtape that I paid him for in 1990 I'm certain i kept it it's a customized mix tape that
i paid him for in 1990 i'm gonna dig it up yeah for sure on the show absolutely i guess i i don't
know i'm not as cool as you guys i didn't know dj grouch was a big fucking deal but uh he's been at
that since high school so i know this guy there you go and you get the name grouch he's a really
nice guy that'll be my first question and Oscar Betancourt comes on Toronto Mike.
So I did tweet at Rob Freeman,
who I met at a
David Kine's Hollywood Suite
event last week. I met Rob Freeman
who directed
Drop the Needle. And I met him because
Retro Ontario introduced me to Rob
and then I was tweeting with him tonight and he did
a good job on this doc. So this is a big week
of docs for me because I'm going to be at the Rivoli on Wednesday
for the lowest of the low docs, subversives.
And then I'm at Roy Thompson Hall on Friday
for the Much Music documentary,
Tonight Night Game.
Okay, and a note for Bob Ouellette.
We're burning through some notes here,
but I met somebody for the first time yesterday.
I saw that in person.
Oh, yes, I should say that in person.
Yeah, in person.
Yeah, I had the fortune to introduce the two of you, I should say that in person. I had the fortune
to introduce
the two of you, I believe.
One,
Mary Jo Eustace.
First time in person.
I've never met her in person.
She hates Toronto, but she was in town to visit
her parents. We met for
a Starbucks coffee in Yorkville.
Had a great chat.
Bob, what I want to do is I want to do a little Zoom or something with you parents and we met for a, like a Starbucks coffee in Yorkville, had a great chat. Yes.
And Bob,
what I want to do is I want to do like a little zoom or something with you,
MJ and I,
and a fourth person who was at the station,
just a little chatter about what was proud FM,
like what it was supposed to be.
Where did it work?
Where did it maybe come short?
And like,
what does it mean that all of a sudden there's no proud FM?
I know.
I was thinking about, uh, you know, the beginning of the show when we do toast we often go through people who have
died and i was wondering if proud fm would make the list of things that have died and yeah that
station which i ran for about eight years or so uh is gone and it's gone forever well no thankfully
uh it it lasted quite a while after me it was a you know if i it was a mere
shadow of itself but it was there and uh yeah the company decided to just shut her right down no i
i actually would like to do i'm happy to do one with you but i've i've been thinking about
contacting a bunch of people and throwing together kind of like what you did with martin streak like
throwing together a uh like a compilation episode which I've never done on my podcast.
Well, we could do two for like record a bunch of us.
We could.
We could both use it.
And we can do our things.
Yeah, that's true.
We could do that.
Absolutely.
And it'd be like, yeah, you do.
You put your Bob spin on it.
I put my Toronto.
I think that'll be fun.
I'd love to do that.
Okay.
So yeah.
So because MJ is on board.
I talked to her yesterday.
Oh yeah, for sure.
She'll slam that place.
No problem.
She knew she was in trouble
when she couldn't get the station
in the parking lot.
Oh, funny.
Yes.
It was an issue.
That was an issue.
Should we have a beer?
I'm thirsty.
Okay, so let's crack open the beer.
All right.
Thank you to Great Lakes.
I'm having my usual,
the Great Lakes Lager.
What's this?
Tank 10.
Oh, okay.
So you could have that
or a pale ale.
I'm going to take the Tank 10
because I don't know what it is.
Okay, well,
let's put it on the mic.
It's an IPA.
One, two.
Thank you, Great Lakes.
They're great people.
They hosted TMLX 13.
Bob, where were you that day?
You were in that TMLX 13.
That was the beginning of the pandemic in my house.
It was right around that same time.
When you entered the Ronaverse?
Something like that.
Yeah, again.
Yeah, we've been through it.
The funny thing is, you know, when I...
I've told this story.
I think I told the story on this show. I know I've told the story, but, you know, when the funny thing is that when you know when i i've told the story i think i told the story on this show i know i have i've told the story but you know when the whole thing started
way back when in march of 19 19 was it or 20 1920 yeah 1920 uh yeah uh march 13th 2020 that's right
so i was in cuba and yeah yeah we were in cuba for the march break with the kids and family and
we came back and it was like this whole thing.
It was very, very nerve wracking being down there.
And we come back and just by being out of the country, we had to isolate for 14 days.
And then within those 14 days, I got a fever.
Did you?
Yes.
So then I walked up from my house to East General Hospital, Michael Garron Hospital in East York.
And it was like this
scene out of
a breakout movie where
there was like
things were painted on the walls like arrows
because they weren't ready for it. And they had
not a word of a lie, like
plywood all around and
everybody was in hazmat suits and you go
in, they tell you everything you see they see you they
sit you down you wait all the everybody's
40 feet away from each other and
you walk in I remember when I finally
went into the like the actual
examination room yeah I
shit you not it was a solo
chair with a red square
around it with like one light
on it and you sat there and they came in
all in there like're like, so
we've looked at everything you've said. You do
have a fever. You're a presumptive case.
They didn't even test me. Yeah. And then I had
to live in my basement away from my family. My
wife was feeding me through the doggy door. Did they even have
tests back then? Yeah, I guess
they did. I don't know, but I was told I was a
presumptive case. Early days. Okay. Yeah, 14 days
in my basement. Yeah. Wow.
Isn't it nice to recall those days?
Oh, yeah.
Just three years ago,
three and a half years ago.
Do you have nostalgia for the lockdown?
Yeah, I remember those days.
That's called the...
Stockholm Syndrome.
Yeah, right?
Oh, man.
All right, nobody chose this jam,
but I want to introduce now the topic
and then a couple more quick hits.
But, I mean, I think we all...
I don't know.
I'm going to speak for myself,
but I know this song best
from Back to the Future.
Me too.
Yes.
For sure.
For sure.
If you know it from anything else, you're older.
Do you know the band that's playing this version I'm playing right now, the hit?
Nope.
The Penguins.
Oh, well.
Penguins.
Are they from Pittsburgh?
Oh, very nice.
Look at you with the hockey joke.
When did you get funny?
Never. When did you get into sports? Just a couple years ago. Oh, very nice. Look at you and the hockey joke. When did you get funny? Never.
When did you get into sports?
Just a couple years ago.
Oh, yeah?
Nice.
It's only hockey for me.
Oh, he's got a relative in the NHL.
Is that where it happened?
Oh, do you?
Oh, nice.
Shout him out.
My nephew, Nico Dawes, plays for the New Jersey Devils.
Oh, amazing.
Nice.
Goalie.
He's goalie.
Wow, great.
Amazing.
That's a tough ride.
Yeah.
He's with Utica. He's been down in New Jersey a bunch of times, but he's in Utica. He's a tough ride yeah he's with Utica
he's been down in New Jersey
a bunch of times
but he's in Utica
he's 22
he's 22
played in the AHL
got drafted a couple years ago
still amazing
so we're gonna kick out
Angel Jams
do you guys remember
how this came about
we were sitting here
and we were talking
about God Jams
because I played
Every Rose Has Its Thorns
the parody
about God
right
that was it
and then we said
we should kick out God Jams,
and then I think it morphed into Angel Jam.
We got into something more specific
because we didn't want another Brendan Flowers situation.
That's right.
Well, you're a shit disturber on that one here.
Okay, so congrats to Bob's Basement
for the filter episode.
Oh, thank you.
What was the reaction to that?
Good, you know, it was short.
It was only 30 minutes.
That's all I had with them,
you know, dealing with publicists and whatnot.
But it was very nice. I'm all I had with them, you know, dealing with publicists and whatnot, but it was very nice.
I'm a,
I'm a fan that band,
you know,
Richard's got a really interesting past.
I didn't ask about his brother.
Yeah.
Richard Patrick.
So did like,
is that because you just didn't want to bug him about his brother?
More or less?
Yeah.
Like I wanted to talk to him.
I only had 30 minutes.
So I wanted to talk to him about the music.
I really wanted to touch on his sobriety.
I wanted to touch on how vocal he was
about Scott Weiland's lack of sobriety
from Stone Temple Pilots.
I really wanted to get those things in.
And I wanted to talk about what it's like
to write a song like Take a Picture
when all your other stuff is so heavy and hard.
Like, hey man, nice shot.
I wanted to talk to him about remixes,
working with the Crystal Method,
doing Trip Like I Do,
and ask him how...
There's so many people that...
When we were doing the live dairs with Martin Streak and DJ Dwight,
we played all kinds of remixes of Filter.
Yeah.
And I asked him how he felt about that as an artist.
Those are the kind of questions I like,
because I try to angle it with change and everything.
Yeah.
So talking about his brother being a Hollywood guy,
if I had an hour, I would have.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Okay. Well, well done there. And you, Rob Pruce, you
played the El Macombo. Yes. How did that show go?
It went very well. It was a lot of fun.
It was cool to play there. It's a big glitzy
place now. Did you deal with Mike Shalhoub at all?
Nope. No, he's like a manager
there. He does... He's like...
I don't know what he does. He used to be on Proud
FM, actually. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. He's like a host there.
No, there's people who run the place,
like Great Sound and Lighting Guys,
and we booked it through Michael Weckerle.
Of course, yeah.
But it was a lot of fun.
Have you had Weck on?
Have you had Weckerle on?
No.
No, he's been on my podcast.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I got to go listen to that.
Yeah, yeah.
He's nuts.
Yeah, but it was fun to play there.
Yeah.
It's not the old El Macombo at all.
And I guess the funny thing is like
if you play the elmo combo now and you're like i'm playing this classic place it's not really
not at all like it at all no it's in the same building that's it and the sign is the same
but you come in and it's like literally the las vegas version of what i was gonna ask you because
kurt swinghammer is an fotm and so he played with you yeah he came did a couple songs with me yeah
so he went on facebook and kind of shit all over the Elmo
for taking all the character out of the place.
Like you said, other than the logo.
No, it's completely different.
So is it like a history vibe now?
I've never been to history,
but I've heard that it is
like maybe a little bit more in that direction.
Yeah, like you don't go in there
expecting the Rivoli or the Phoenix
or don't go in there expecting... Sneaky D's phoenix or don't go in there expecting it's an or sneaky no no nothing like that or yeah um uh dance cave up above sneaky
d's there or uh above uh lee's but at least palace like it's not that it is it's a newer
venue look if you go there knowing that hey they took this building they kept them skeleton yeah
and you know what it is what it is it is what it is and i think it's a great space and actually
it's a great space to see a show it's just not the alma como no but what's It is what it is. It is what it is and I think it's a great space. And actually, it's a great space
to see a show.
It's just not the Alma Combo.
No,
but what's cool
is I think going forward now,
as long as it keeps running
for years and years and years,
it's going to maintain that.
It'll get it again,
but it's got a fantastic sound system.
It's got a fantastic lighting.
Like,
technically,
it's magic.
Like,
it's a dream place
for a band to play,
but it's just,
it's not really the El Macombo.
I mean... Not even close.
What do we got going on here? Okay, so Jane Sibury,
who's an FOTM now,
she has a jam, a big jam called
Calling All Angels, and I did not
choose it, but I thought I'd play it.
I thought I'd feature it off the top
because it would be fun to play some Jane Sibury.
I liked your Jane episode, too.
I did, too. It's a littleibury. I liked your Jane episode too. I did too. Yeah. You know, it's a little
polarizing. Some people leave that episode
not digging Jane. I was going to send you a message about her
because I spent an afternoon with her once.
How did that go? 20 years ago in New York.
It was good. Back in the old MySpace days, I sent
her a message. Like, I don't remember how we got in touch.
Wow. And I just like reached out to her and she wrote me
back and I said, well, I was in the spoons, blah, blah, blah.
And I said, you know, if you're ever in New York and you want to
go meet for coffee or something, let me know. And she totally did.
So we spent an afternoon on the...
This is when she was called. She was in her Issa phase.
I think she's going back to Issa. Is she?
She's hinting at it. Issa come, Issa go.
Issa come. Little high, little low.
I saw, real quick, there's an actress
named Issa and then I thought about
or I just saw her in Barbie.
I was so completely underwhelmed by
Barbie, but I avoided all the hype about
Barbie because people seemed to be loving Barbie
and it made a billion dollars or whatever.
I thought it was okay. Maybe it was okay.
Nothing special. I was really underwhelmed by it.
It was fine.
It was fine.
I don't think it was...
Look, I think it's
not as progressive as people think it is.
I don't think it's as good for...
It might be the opposite.
I mean, if you really pay attention,
some of those messages,
the only way they have to get the guys
to forget to vote or whatever.
You get the America Ferrera,
her big speech there is really good.
But beyond that, it's reinforcing.
It's making fun of,
but it's reinforcing all the things that Barbie was kind of...
Issa Rae is the actress.
Issa Rae, right.
She's like a comedian or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
She had a big HBO show.
Yeah.
For sure.
Okay.
So Jane and you had coffee.
We hung out for an afternoon.
We went to an art museum and hung around.
That's kind of like a reality show waiting to happen.
I think Rob and Jane hanging out.
Did you drop any fun facts on her? No, nothing. She was very quiet. of a like a reality show waiting to happen i think rob and uh jane like hanging out did yeah
did you drop any fun facts on her no nothing she was very quiet you know yeah yeah all right
interesting okay okay i'm all fascinated with everyone send in your jane sibery uh stories
okay anything else rocking and rolling i'm thinking uh if you guys have anything else
you want to share now is the time did Did we do deaths? Did we talk about
Jimmy Buffett?
I mean I felt too young
for Jimmy's. Jimmy Buffett didn't resonate with me
but everybody knows Margaritaville for sure.
Everybody knows that song.
Children know that song.
I was like oh that's sad to
hear that. I was sad because he was only 75.
He was young.
And Gary Wright died not long
after that as well. And we all know him
from Wayne's World.
I knew him from the radio when I was 11.
I played Dreamweaver in a band
when I was 11. I bet you did.
Because it was all the synthesizers. Does he have a second hit?
Love is Alive. Okay, see,
I did not know that. I mean, really, those were the two big ones
off the first album. Okay, because
that's a great scene in Wayne's World.
I really loved Wayne's World.
So Wayne's World.
That was huge.
Wayne's World was massive for me.
I have the Wayne's World book.
Do you?
Oh, yeah.
Like, I can remember being, whatever, 14 when it came.
Hilarious.
Like, reading.
There's a connection between Wayne's World and, I mentioned the 299 Queen Street doc.
Yes.
But there's a connection because Wayne Campbell debuts on Christopher Ward's City Limits. That's right.
Yes. And now you know the rest is right.
Okay, there's a question from Cam Brio on the
live stream. Are you touring
with Burlington Silverstein?
Me? Well, this is what he said.
Cam, if this is some bullshit thing, don't waste
my time. Is this Silverstein? No.
He's not going to tour with them. I'm just reading the questions
here. Don't waste my time.
I'm banning him, just like I banned Levi F time. You know what? I'm banning him.
Just like I banned Levi Fumka as a judge.
Cambrio questions.
When I did the gig
in Burlington on Canada Day,
they played as well
because they're a Burlington band.
And so we shared the stage,
but not at the exact same time.
I don't even know Silverstein.
Should I know Silverstein?
I know Silverchair.
Australian,
not from Burlington.
No.
That's right.
Burlington zone.
Okay.
Anyone else die? I actually forgot to collect the No. That's right. Burlington's own. Okay. Anyone else die?
I actually forgot to collect the deaths.
That's all right.
You know, this is an Angels episode, so it's going to be all about deaths.
Okay.
Death is all around us.
Death is all around us.
All right.
Here's what we're going to do.
We're going to shout out a few partners, and we're going to get to the jams, because people
come here for the jams.
You guys know that here.
So, we've already given much love to Great Lakes Brewery
because we're drinking fine craft beer from GLB.
Palma Pasta, they're hosting us at TMLX 14.
I don't know if you're in town, Rob Pruess.
Yeah, what's the date?
December?
Nine at noon.
I'm thinking about it.
Yeah, if you're there, that's amazing.
And I think Bob Willett should be there as well.
December 9th?
I can try to make that happen. Just put that in the calendar. What day of the week is that?
It's a Saturday. Okay.
December 9 at noon at Palma's
Kitchen. That's one of their four locations
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Life's undertaking is...
What are you doing?
Yeah, because I was going to...
No, I was going to say,
are we saying RIP to the Toronto Star?
And on Metroland?
It's not the Star, right?
No, but the Star also has...
The Toronto Star has filed for bankruptcy protection.
Is it really?
I don't think so.
Yeah.
Breaking news.
They have the two arms there, right?
Hang on.
Toronto Star.
I think it's Metroland. No, sir. Watch. In the news. They have the two arms there, right? Hang on. Toronto Star. I think it's Metroland.
No, sir.
Watch.
In the news.
Hang on here.
Toronto Star owner cutting 600 jobs at regional player.
But the owner owns just two things.
The owner owns one of which is a star, which is not filing, and then the one with the Metroland
papers.
No, but still.
Slippery slope.
Slippery slope.
That's my point.
Yeah.
This is the beginning of the end.
I see what you're saying.
As a person who's working for a company who's trading at $1.11 right now,
trust me, I know about a slippery slope.
You're reading between the lines.
Oh, my God.
Don't even get me started.
All right.
I just want to get our facts right here on Toronto, Mike.
People come here for the facts.
You know that.
Okay.
So, yeah, but the Metroland,
I mean, the Etobicoke Guardian is our local community paper.
Yeah, Burlington papers are getting screwed as well.
Like, it's just weird.
And the Mississauga. Yeah, Mississauga. What's the Mississauga papers are getting screwed as well. It's just weird. And the Mississauga.
Yeah, Mississauga.
What's the Mississauga?
That was their only newspaper.
It's gone.
The Mississauga Choo Choo or something?
I don't know.
I'm going to just make up names for all the cities.
What is the name of the Mississauga?
I don't know.
They have these contests,
and I stuffed the ballot box for Palma Pasta
to win best food place in Mississauga.
It's called,
I'm going to have a name for this in two seconds here.
It's called... I've got no fucking...
Anybody know what the fuck is this place called? I have no idea.
Mississauga News. What a name. This is the
furthest west I come at all.
I don't go past here.
The Mississauga News. I stop at the 427.
You're almost in Hamilton right now. Yeah, except for me. I might as well be.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you guys want to get to some jams? Let's do it.
I don't remember anymore what order we're in, so I'm going to play this jam and then whoever's to some jams? Let's do it. I don't remember anymore like what order we're in.
So I'm going to play this jam and then whoever's jam it is is going to talk about it.
Okay.
This is how we're rolling.
Okay.
I'm really prepared.
Apparently.
All right.
Sunday night's a bad night.
Also, I'm actually overheating.
I'm going to have to take off my hoodie.
You're going to take your sweater off.
I am so fucking hot.
Oh, yes, you are.
Is Todd going to have a shirt underneath that hoodie?
No, no, he doesn't.
I'll go topless.
I don't give a shit.
But I mean, if the one of your
Tarps off, boys.
Tarps off.
Here we go.
All right.
What song am I playing?
You guys find out
when I find out.
Okay.
This is me.
Oh, you called it
right away.
Okay.
Name that tune
and how many.
I can tell you the title.
Don't tell me. Rob, can you you the title don't tell me well
rob can you name the title not yet you named the band oh yeah yeah i almost chose this and i'm glad
i didn't yeah because you chose it it's a massive song it is a massive song there's a lot of big
angel jams i want to say. The big universe.
Better than God jams. The bass on these recordings is so good.
So good. Actually, can I get a little bit more volume
in my headset, please? Like Jay-Z?
Turn it up. One, two.
That's me.
Yep. Thank you. Ah, there we go.
Worried about your
hearing, Bob. Oh, don't worry.
So is my wife.
Pardon?
You worked on Broadway and never got COVID, Rob.
Never did.
Had to play Phantom of the Opera wearing a mask sometimes.
It was weird.
Sort of the Phantom.
Yeah, I know.
Well, he wore it all the time.
Like every show, he had a mask on.
He didn't. Are my intentions
Come from way above
To bring me love To bring me love Her eyes
She's on the dark side
Mutual life
Every man inside Yeah.
We've gone a long time
without saying anything.
I love it.
It's such a good song.
It's so cool.
This is Massive Attack.
Angel from Mezzanine
came out in 98.
That trip-hop era
was so cool, man.
25 years ago.
Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. You know-hop era was so cool, man. 25 years ago. Yeah.
Amazing.
Amazing.
You know, like Portishead, Tricky.
There's some unbelievable trip-hop bands going on out there.
And we were playing them on the Edge.
Were you?
Yeah, on Edge 102.
Somebody, I know, I was reading your hat.
Oh, you're reading my hat.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a tragedy hip hat.
You were looking at the stairs. Is Alan Cross coming down? No, I don't know. Why are you looking behind me? Freaking me out, man. I was was reading your hat. Oh, you're reading my hat. It's a tragedy hip hat. You were looking at the stairs.
Is Alan Cross coming?
No, I don't know.
Why are you looking behind me?
Freaking me out, man.
I was looking at your hat.
We're doing a whole show on angels.
If you wear a fucking hat with words on it,
people are going to want to read it.
I know, but you know.
It's a tragedy hip hat.
It's not a massive attack hat.
Angels.
So this comes out.
But I don't...
Did CFNY play Angel?
We did on the live to airs on, at the very beginning of the night.
So the live to airs would be Friday nights from the Kingdom, 1400 Plains Road East in
Burlington.
And we would go from nine until 10.
There would be commercials still.
And we would also do Club 102 Saturday nights from 410 Sherbourne Street, Phoenix Constant
Theater.
And there would still be commercials.
So I was the on-site producer.
So I was playing all of the IDs over the songs that the DJ was playing.
And then I was also turning Martin's mic off and on for just to air,
not in the club.
Yeah, yeah.
So we would come back or exit with songs with long intros or extras we looped
sometimes feels like something i would have heard at that time in the between nine and ten this is
perfect that ambiance it's a great uh pre-drinking song right um obviously teardrop was the biggest
hit off this album but uh it was this was a unbelievable album yeah there's a couple i've
got uh you know uh you would have known this,
this was in Snatch,
the movie.
This is on the Snatch soundtrack.
This was featured on...
Did you watch Snatch
with closed captions
or without?
I watched it in the theater,
so there are no closed captions
on that.
So you missed half the movie.
No, no,
I got it, I got it.
It was also featured
on West Wing.
Oh, cool.
And yeah,
a bunch of different shows and it's been licensed a bunch. It was in featured on West Wing. Oh, cool. And yeah, a bunch of different shows.
It's been licensed a bunch.
It was in an Adidas commercial back in the day.
What got me about this is when I found out who's the vocals.
I don't know who the vocals are.
Do you know, Rob?
Nope.
Well, I do.
And it's a guy by the name of Horace Andy.
It's a reggae artist from Jamaica.
This is a man's voice.
Yes.
So, first of all, by the way, it also contains a sample from the incredible bongo band.
Really?
This song does.
Yeah, it's called The Last Bongo in Belgium, which I don't have.
I didn't put that as my mind blow, but my mind blow is, so last summer,
Luminato, who does some great programming here in Toronto for
the Arts Festival,
they did a whole bunch, two or three
days of shows down at Woodbine Park
down the street from my house. I could walk there.
And one of the days, Horace Andy played
there. Really? Yes. He came in
with a
local, and I can't remember their name. They're so good.
They're like a world-renowned, known Toronto
based reggae band. Okay. And I can't remember
their name. The Satellites. No, not the Satellites. Messenger.
Nope. Neither of those. But it's a bunch of
really, really, they're all like
session guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they play along
and Horace comes in and he plays with them. That's cool. And a bunch of these guys,
the dance hall guys, they all come in with no band. And he's singing
this on this. And he sings this. That's really cool.
So here, this is, the Mind Blow is one of horace andy's biggest reggae hits and it's the same guy who does
that that's not pitched up okay yeah when you say so you but you didn't send me anything to play yes
i did how did you send it though in that first email i said here's my mind blow but there's no
link like i took all okay okay well hold on i'm gonna find on youtube i'm gonna find okay give me
two seconds no because i am because you said you literally emailed me back and said now you're
getting the mind blows i am positive i sent it to you all right okay okay i remember i'm playing
his name from if you're on the live stream you might not i have it here i have it here we have
to edit this no no
there you go oh
okay There you go. Oh.
Okay.
And that's an angel song too.
You are my angel.
Find out the name of that Toronto reggae band.
Oh, you know what?
You're right.
I didn't send you links.
I apologize. So I got you know what? You're right. I didn't send you links. I apologize.
So I got you lost because there were no links.
I figured you could figure it out.
I know, but I thought
you might just be
verbally saying these fun things.
No, I wanted to hear this.
All right, we're going to be fine.
All right, good.
So Horace Andy.
Yes, this is the same vocals.
It's a mind blow.
It's a good one.
I don't know if Jane Sibury
would like it,
but I appreciate it.
Okay, yeah, and I'm reading the comments and talking about how I never, this person wrote,
I never knew Angel was a cover.
Yes.
By the original singer, but a cover nonetheless.
Yes.
Mind-blowing.
It says in the comments?
Or did you say that?
No, Gavin Hewitt in the comments.
Oh, very good.
Three years ago, his mind was blown by this.
Okay, amazing.
I apologize. I didn't send links. This is good, though, because blown by this. Okay, amazing. I apologize.
I didn't send links.
This is good, though,
because now I want to know
more about Horace Andy.
Horace Andy's amazing.
He was so good.
I'm just reading that
he's done work
with Adrian Sherwood as well,
like good remixing and stuff.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, so it's amazing
that this man,
and he's now in his 70s,
he still has this
high-pitched voice.
That's cool.
It's amazing.
So there you go.
That's our first Angel track.
Angel, Massive Attack.
I apologize for not
sending you the links.
Angel. And a bonus Angel track, You track. Angel, Massive Attack. I apologize for not sending you the links. Angel.
And a bonus angel track, You Are My Angel, Horace Andy.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Okay.
You know what?
I might have actually loaded up the fun facts, and I just couldn't see it in my blog.
I actually...
So this is the same song, right?
Okay.
So I actually did...
You did have it.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
So you did.
I'm apologize.
I'm off my game today.
You're a little off today. All right. Do you think I'm off my game today. You're a little off today.
Do you need a shoulder rub or something?
It's because you did the run this morning.
I'm tired, baby. I'm a little punchy here.
By the way, let's tell the world,
Rob, and then Bob, I want to comment
on your t-shirts real quick here.
So Rob, you're wearing a hoodie,
the hilarious house of Freidenstein.
I feel like you've worn that here before.
I probably have. It's a great hoodie. When I get a little chilly and I need one hoodie to bring with me, hilarious house of Freidenstein. I feel like you've worn that here before. I probably have. It's a great hoodie.
Yeah.
Yeah, when I'm getting a little chilly and I need one hoodie to bring with me, I'm like,
Oh, it's very good.
Freidenstein.
And what do you got there, Bob?
What are you sporting today?
I want to talk to Bob about this.
Bob, you and Blind Derek are the two biggest Argos fans I know.
Any truth to the rumor that you might start a Toronto Argonaut podcast?
Well, it's funny.
My cousin said to me the other day, because I'm not doing any on air on radio right now.
There's a lot going on.
And I have the podcast, which I still love doing.
But he said, why don't you do an Argo podcast?
Because I do love the Argos.
I had Caesars tickets when I was 15 years old with my own money.
I've always loved the team.
I'll admit it's gone in ebbs and flows.
But generally speaking, and I've posted about it just the other day,
they're a team that I can always count on.
Even when they're in the dumps,
I can go and have a good time,
an affordable good time.
So this is my classic.
This was,
I can't remember the name of the company
that put this one out,
but it's just a straight-ahead Argos shirt.
It's very simple.
It just says Argos,
and it's black with the logo on it.
No logo, just the
white print on black
t-shirt. And the Argos are having a great
year. 11-1. They have never
in their 150 years of existence
150? They have been around
for 150 years if you include rugby.
Going all the way back from the
rowing club that played rugby.
As of November, they'll be 150 years
old. They have never been they'll be 150 years old.
They have never been 11-1 in any season.
So it's remarkable.
They're so much fun to watch.
Even if they lose, I've said this the last few times,
in my lifetime, they're the most successful Toronto's franchise when it comes to wins and losses
by far in my lifetime.
And I've only seen them lose the Grey Cup once.
In 87, they lost.
They won in 83.
I think they lost in 82, but I wasn't really old enough to remember that.
And then since then, they've won like six or seven or something.
And they're just fun, man.
They're just fun to watch.
Rob, any interest in football?
They play football, right?
It's a football team.
That is football, yes.
No, I only watch hockey.
Although when I come and stay at my sister's place,
my brother-in-law watches every sport that's available.
He was watching rugby. Yeah, but like... Oh, watching rugby There's a huge rugby tournament going on right now
I was watching that yesterday
It was amazing, it was interesting
My best friend, Jose, he's a rugby guy
He played a lot, he refereed
He's done a whole bunch
It's a great sport
I was experimenting with chat GPT yesterday
Trying to come up with a sport that combines hockey and rugby together
And I should read you some of my We were talking about all that It's helping me come up with a sport that combines hockey and rugby together and I should read you
some of my
we were talking about
all that
it's helping me
come up with a new sport
I love it
I love it
it's good you see your time
this drop the needle
documentary
and this was another
similar to the CFNY doc
which is still in production
they'll come out next year
but another doc
that was desperately
searching for
Chris Shepard
to participate
because Shep was buying a lot of his albums at Play to Record,
and they have old footage of Shepard in this thing,
and you can tell he's missing in action.
I know the guys from the CFNY doc are looking for him.
I've been looking for him.
It's kind of interesting that we can't find him.
Should we make a documentary about finding Chris Shepard?
Searching for Shep.
Yeah, well, that's the natural, because there's a lot of people right now.
Bikes of skill, baby. Bikes of skill, baby.
Bikes of skill. Is he hiding in plain sight?
Has he just decided
he wants to be off the grid?
Is he okay?
It's kind of a bunch of interesting questions
because he's really
disappeared.
Off the grid.
You want it to be done by 10 and we've only
done one song.
We're doing good now. Are we doing good okay. You want it to be done by 10, and we've only done one song. No, we're doing good now.
Are we doing good now?
We're doing well.
Okay, you ready, Rob Pruce?
I'm ready.
Shout out to Dana Levinson on a Sunday night.
Ooh, hit the post, too. That's a good one.
I forgot about this.
It hit right in my head.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh.
This takes me back, man.
I forgot about this one.
Ooh, you're an angel
Ooh, you're an angel
Ooh, you're an angel In the skies I can see it in your eyes So this is Madonna
Yeah
What album?
Like a Virgin
Yeah
This was the third single
I was going to say
like third or fourth single
has to be
It was a top five still
around the world
and apparently
originally she wanted it
to be the first single. And then she
finished Like a Virgin and she's like,
she finished the song Like a Virgin. She's like, hang on.
This is going to be the first single.
But it's a great song. Co-written Madonna and Stephen
Bray wrote it, which they co-wrote a bunch of
the songs on the album. I love this album, Like a Virgin.
I had the cassette and I fucking loved it.
Produced by Nile Rodgers, my friend Nile.
He did this right after we did Talk Back
in Romantic Traffic. Amazing.
So a lot of the musicians on this song were like our...
Your session guys?
Yeah, the guys singing on this record with Madonna
sang on Romantic Traffic.
That's amazing.
Isn't it amazing as the radio guy here,
like isn't it shitty that my industry
has just forgotten about this song?
Like you don't hear this on the radio.
I know.
Okay, so boom won't boom.
I've never...
Hey, look.
Wayne Webster is the greatest music director.
He's an FOTM.
He's amazing.
Yeah.
But I would imagine that I feel like
this has slipped through the cracks.
They need to go to the second level.
They're going to play like a virgin.
Yeah.
They play like a virgin.
What was the other one?
Crazy for you?
The one, the Diamonds one.
The...
Material Girl. Material Girl. Right. They'll play play off from that era yeah but this never made and
they'll play cherish from the later albums and express yourself like a prayer all that but this
is a great song that boom nobody plays this no there's i gotta go put this in my playlist
and all that good yeah this doesn't pop star mad Madonna was. I know she's still at it.
Just unbelievable.
But it's a great song.
It's a nice, simple pop song.
No, it's so good.
And it's an angel.
Good job, Mr. Bruce.
And there's no dispute.
I don't have anything to get angry about.
I'm ready to go off,
so I'm hoping one of you fucks up on this. Oh, I will.
My last one will probably make you angry.
Oh, boy.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, any fun facts or mind blows?
Nothing too good.
How about mind blows? The guys who are singing in the background
sang on your X-T. That's a
fucking mind blow. Can you name those people?
The Sims brothers. Yeah, they're
two brothers. I forget.
Frank and George Sims,
I believe. Because, you know, when I told
Bob, you're getting the hang of it.
This is your pep talk here. This is your ninth appearance on Toast. Yeah. Because, you know, when I told Bob, you're getting the hang of it. This is your pep talk here.
Yeah.
This is your ninth appearance
on Toast, okay?
Yeah, the song.
It's a good song.
It satisfies the requirement.
Yeah, yeah.
You know,
and that is a mind blow
into itself, right?
But you got to bring that
something, something.
Something extra special.
Well, I think I told you,
I don't know if we had
the conversation on or off the air
about the mind blows last time,
but I was like,
for me, if it's on Wikipedia,
it's not a mind blow.
Anybody can see it. But that being said, maybe. Well, that's not fair. That's not fair. You can have mind blows last time, but I was like, for me, if it's on Wikipedia, it's not a mind blow. Anybody can see it.
But that being said,
maybe...
Well, that's not fair.
That's not fair.
You can have mind blows
that are on Wikipedia.
No, no, I understand
because that's how
Stu Stone prepares for everything.
It's just Wikipedia
when Stu's on.
Yeah, I know.
I'm taking shots at Stu.
But there's an extra level
of mind blow.
Am I wrong?
I love Stu.
So can I tell you,
the famous mind blow
that Jane Sibury
was unimpressed by,
that was something
I discovered on my own,
not on Wikipedia literally
the way I discovered it and the name matched
and I did some homework she misunderstood
your mind blow I think she thought well tell
me how she missed it I said the most she didn't understand what
most decorated Olympian was I don't think
that's the part that she didn't wasn't impressed by she wasn't
impressed by the connection you were making between
her and her career and this
Olympian swimmer is it a swimmer
Henny Oleksiak yes who lives in my neighborhood and her career and this olympian swimmer is it a swimmer henny olexia yes who lives in my
neighborhood and her family is the most fucking decorated fucking olympian of all time but to me
the mind blow connection which you presented and didn't she it sort of went over her head to me
somehow was that it's just the world is a cool small place and things intersect with each other
and like that's what the mind like the guy who directed let's face it i think that's her most
famous song like i know there's a debate to be have i think mimi on the beach is like the
signature song it was her introduction to the world right and the director of her video yeah
would many years later would father a young girl a woman named penny alexiak who would go on to win
more medals than any other canadian in the history of the Olympic Games. That's a cool fact. I think it's cool. It's a fucking amazing
fact, Ron. Are you kidding me?
It's a fucking cool fact. It is. I know.
Alright, I'm going to get the big jam out of the way.
Okay. Oh, I get it.
Are we going to cry? Are we going to cry? No.
Well, you know, you can cry if you want to.
But one of you actually also wanted this,
but I had it first, and that's going to lead to a
bonus fun fact.
He didn't shut any of mine out.
That's a good process
of elimination.
You haven't shut any of mine out yet.
I know because usually we both
pick like Pearl Jam songs.
I know not to pick 90s if I'm doing anything with you.
I leave them for you.
Nobody picks 90s anymore. I leave them for you.
To me, this is the Angel Jam
and there's so many fun facts blowing off of this one.
But let's get to the song.
One of the first pop songs that was like
I was immersed in as a
young boy. Let's get to it. Maybe you'll sing the chorus with me
Let's see what mood you're in
Maybe if I do this
That's right the chorus with me. Let's see what mood you're in. Maybe if I do this.
That's right.
Is Bob already on beer number two?
I'm going to have to go back to the fridge and get more for this young man.
That's fine.
No juice for you, Bob.
No juice for you.
You guys ready?
Baby Just call me angel
I'm a morning angel
Then slowly turn away
Okay, no juice for you
because this is all the juice you need today.
Juice Newton.
Does Juice Newton have another hit?
Queen of Hearts.
Of course.
All right.
Queen of Hearts. I know it ain't Rattling with the Queen of Hearts.
I know it ain't really smart.
That was a big jam too.
Okay, so it's not going to be a mind blow to anybody.
I want to shout out Leslie, though, on the live stream,
who says this is her favorite, her number one angel jam,
is Angel of the Morning by Juice Newton.
So I'm playing the version that I grew up with
because this was a big hit when I was a kid.
Obviously not a mind blow to. Because this was a big hit when I was a kid. Yep.
Obviously not a mind blow to tell you this is a cover.
This was a song written by Chip Taylor.
That's a fucking, you think that's his real name?
It's a great name.
Chip Taylor.
Who is he really?
Imagine having Chip on your birth certificate.
Imagine Chip on your shoulder.
Yeah.
I know.
Okay.
The first version
was recorded by
Evie Sands.
Yeah.
Okay.
Not the first hit,
but the first version.
Yeah.
So let's go listen
to a little bit,
although I feel bad
taking down Juice Newton,
but this is the very
first recording
of Angel of the Morning
by Evie Sands.
Totally different production.
There's that little drum
for Sam Strat.
Is she off key there?
Or is that just me?
Maybe that's why
it wasn't a hit.
Not a hit, everybody.
It's the background vocal.
I believe we're in 1967,
by the way.
Just call me angel
of the morning
Still beautiful.
This sounds very 60s,
like the 60s.
It makes sense.
So, 67,
this is the version
by E.B. Sands,
not a hit.
Just call me angel
This version gives me
more of a,
just like a Jim Steinman
vibe, too.
A little like a meatloaf kind of a song.
But he was,
Jim was inspired by all that kind of music.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, the next year, 1968,
this song is finally a hit.
Yeah.
When Marilee Rush sings it.
And this is Marilee Rush.
Where's the horns come in?
That's different
Trombone?
Yeah, that's a trombone, right?
Rob, you're the musician here
I would say it's a trombone
Or a nice French horn
I was going to say maybe French horn
This has got like a birds vibe to it
With the harmonies Yeah, the harmonies Little Everly Brothers Hurts vibe to it. And there's no need to take off.
With the harmonies.
Yeah, the harmonies.
Little Everly Brothers.
Yeah, Everly Brothers.
It's beautiful.
It's nice.
It's a beautiful song, right?
It really is a beautiful song.
I see no reason to take me home.
A little biteline, too.
Yeah.
I'm old enough to face the dark. We have to let Marilee get to be a chorus there.
This is more like a Righteous Brothers.
Yeah.
This makes me wish the Carpenters did this.
This is more like a righteous rubbish.
Yeah.
This makes me wish the carpenters did this. Yeah.
So the E.B. Sands version, not a hit,
but it was a limited single release with no promotion.
Wow.
So that's poor.
One of the most radio hits today.
No promotion.
Right.
And then in 1968, Marilee Rush records it,
and you've got this hit.
Yeah.
What else do I have in my bag of tricks here?
Oh, just for fun.
I mean, this has been covered by a million artists,
but I just thought it would be fun to hear this version.
Very Phil Spector-y, too, right?
Yeah, very Phil Spector-y.
This sounds like it should be on a Quentin Tarantino soundtrack.
That's right.
There'll be no strings to bind your hands
Not if my love can't bind your heart
Name that artist.
Is it Linda Ronstadt? No.
And there's no need to take a stand
You'll get it when you get it. Rob, if you know it, you can belt it out. Really? It's a Pretenders? Yes. And there's no need to take a stand For it was I who chose to start
Really, it's the Pretenders.
That's Christine Hyde.
Now you hear it, right?
I got it.
I see no reason to take me home
Right there, yeah.
I am old enough to face the dawn
Just call me angel of the morning It's beautiful.
I might do a couple of hours on Angel. Just one more here. One away. It's beautiful.
I might do a couple of hours on Angel.
Just one more here, one more.
It's amazing.
Oh.
There'll be no strings to bind your head.
That's a lot of covers of this.
Is this like Ray Conniff or somebody?
No.
Good guess.
I also did not pull, like there's a big hit by, not a big hit, but a hit by Olivia Newton-John.
She covers this.
There's a bunch.
P.P. Arnold, Connie Eaton.
Dusty Springfield.
I'm sure, yeah, that would make sense.
Mary Mason, who I don't even know who the hell that is.
Guys and Dolls.
So this is attributed to...
Percy Faith.
Percy Faith.
Okay, I love Percy Faith, too.
I knew it was one of those easy-listening dudes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like there needs to be, like, spin. Yeah, This is angelic on its own, right?
But you know, hearing all these other versions
makes me appreciate Juice Newton's version.
That's the fucking killer version here.
But there is the kids today.
I don't know if they're kids anymore, but...
Oh yeah, that's yeah.
Shaggy and some vocalist nobody knows.
We should do some sort of...
And the bass line is...
Look at Miller.
Space Cowboy.
Yes.
We should do some sort of reggae.
Chum FM played the shit out of this. You're my angel. You're my darling angel. Closer than my peeps.
Chum FM played the shit out of this.
They probably still do, actually.
You're my darling angel.
It's like that Big Yellow Taxi,
that abomination by Vanessa Carlton
and the fucking Counting Crows.
Ravon, by the way, is the singer.
Ravon.
counting crows.
Ravon, by the way,
is the singer.
Ravon.
Love me some Shaggy.
I do.
So there you go.
You might know it.
There you go. His voice is a little,
what's his name from
Lord of the Rings?
Gollum? A little back in the throat. little bit yeah for sure the juice newton version went to number four on the billboard hot 100 that's a big hit but it it was in uh 81 i guess
but what am i in 81 whatever i am six seven am, six, seven years old. Yeah, seven years old, I guess.
Man, it seemed to be everywhere.
This was the big jam.
Yeah, it was huge.
My mom loved...
See, Juice Newton, I think,
had a country crossover of it, right?
Yeah, for sure.
For sure?
Because I probably still,
somewhere in my house,
have Queen of Hearts.
For sure.
Playing with the Queen of Hearts.
No, it ain't real.
Listen, Joker's the only fool.
I had that song.
I know that better than I know
Angel in the Morning.
They were both big radio hits.
Yeah.
CFGM, 1320 here in Toronto.
Or 1430 would have been playing that.
I'm now looking at the jams we're yet to play.
There's some big fucking jams coming up here.
Big songs.
You came out with a big hit here right to begin with.
I'm going to close with this, but I'm like...
Are you going to do the mind blow about this song that I suggested to you?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Right.
Remember that? Yeah, I do remember you. Oh yeah, okay. Right. Remember that?
Yeah, I do remember that. Give me a moment to You don't have to play the song because I can
explain it. Well, if I have it
I'm going to play it. Let me just... And then I'll show you
the cross. Listen to Shaggy for a minute.
Okay. We have to.
It's Gollum, right?
Picture him on the rock.
Precious.
It's totally gone.
Way back in the throat, eh?
Jim Henson would approve of this.
Grover.
Yoda.
It's all good when you're little, you're pure fun. Can't be a fool, son. What about the long run?
Looking back, shawty, always a mention.
See me not giving her much attention.
She was there through my incarceration.
I want to show the nation my appreciation.
Girl, you're my angel.
You're my darling.
Hello.
Come on now.
Chord progression?
Something?
What are we listening for?
The composer.
Oh.
Same dude.
From the Troggs?
Well, he wasn't in the Troggs.
He wasn't in the Troggs.
He wrote this song?
He wrote this song.
Chip Taylor, yep.
Oh, this is Chip Taylor? Yep. He wasn't in the truck. He wrote this song? He wrote this song. Chip Taylor, yeah. Oh, this is Chip Taylor?
Yeah.
Oh.
Also, Chip Taylor, brother of John Voight.
Wow.
So, Angelina Jolie's uncle.
Yeah.
The guy who...
Oh, now that's a bright...
Come on now.
Chewed the pencil in Seinfeld.
Yeah.
How come he just tossed that out like it was nothing?
That's...
I think I love you.
That's a good voice you got.
Yeah, it was really good.
Okay, so the fun fact
is that the guy,
Chip Taylor,
also wrote this hit
for the Trogs.
Yep.
Nice.
Wild Thing.
Yep.
And they're the same song.
To me,
if you go back to the beginning
of this,
I'll sing you Angel of the Morning
and you'll see what the deal is.
We could do a mashup.
We could do a mashup.
Here it comes, ready?
Okay, so wait, wait.
First, okay.
Hold on here.
So this is Juice Newton. Oh, yeah. But you gotta play that. Yeah, there's a long buildup. We could do a mashup. Here it comes. Ready? Okay. So wait, wait. First, okay. Hold on here. So this is Juice Newton.
Oh, yeah.
But you got to play that.
There's a long buildup.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait before.
It works better with Wild Thing.
All right.
You're the boss.
Okay.
Let's do that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here it comes.
Just call me angel of the morning, baby.
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, in baby it's just yeah
it's the
one four five it's the all the songs
all the greatest hits of the pop era are
written with those chords yeah but really for him to like
have two great hits
that's the magic of pop song right
you can do
do do do do do do do do
all of it, yeah.
That's really cool.
All right, now we're ready to go.
Now we're cooking.
You want to hear a big fucking jam?
Here's one. I'm alone
Yeah, I don't know if I can face the night
I'm in tears and the crying that I do is for you
I want your love Let's break the walls between us
Don't make it tough
I'll put away my pride
If that's enough
I've suffered and I've seen the light
Baby, baby
You're my angel Wow.
There you go.
There's a power ballad.
Totally.
Fucking sounds great, Bob.
Sure does.
So that's the first song that came to mind.
That was your first?
First, right away.
Angel, 1987. Aerosmith, P that's the first song that came to mind. That was your first? First, right away. Angel, 1987.
Yeah.
Aerosmith, Permanent Vacation is the album.
Right.
And so it's interesting.
You know, you forget.
So in 84, they have the Walk This Way with Run DMC.
They kind of come back.
They really hadn't had a lot going on.
Yep.
And in 85, they did an album called Done With Mirrors.
With our producer, Ted Teppelman.
But did nothing. Nothing. Not a goddamn hit on there. they did an album called Done With Mirrors. With our producer Ted Deppelman. But did nothing.
Nothing.
Not a goddamn hit on there.
You can't find a hit on that album.
And I heard it was a low point
for the band as well.
And they were trying to be sober
and like Done With Mirrors,
obviously.
They don't mean looking at them.
They're talking about
snorting off of them.
And Permanent Vacation comes out.
And the first single
off Permanent Vacation
was Garbage 2.
It was a song called
Hangman Jury.
Is that the first single?
That was the first single. Not Dude Looks Like a Lady. Dude Looks Like. Is that the first single? That was the first single.
Not Dude Looks Like a Lady.
Dude Looks Like a Lady
was the second single.
That's a fun fact.
Yeah, there you go.
The second single
is Dude Looks Like a Lady
and they blow up again.
It's like Aerosmith is back.
That was huge.
And they,
and then off that,
of course,
then Angel was the next single.
Look at the way this was,
so the album comes out
August 18th, 87.
They release Hangman Jury.
Nothing.
Then in September, so quickly, within a month,
they released Dude Looks Like a Lady.
And the video was huge, right?
Remember MTV, Much Music, 87.
You know.
Rob, you were there.
It was amazing.
And then Angel comes out in January.
They ride that from September to January.
January 88.
88.
January 88, Angel comes out.
And then Ragdoll.
Yeah, Ragdoll, great jam too.
Such a good album.
Oh, it's a great album.
But wait, wait, wait.
So Hangman Jury.
Yes.
Which I don't even care.
I don't even know it.
I don't know it.
It was the first single.
Rob, you're the only guy here who's released an album.
Like, who makes the call on the singles that get released?
Well, it's pretty.
They had three big singles after that bullshit first single.
But, you know know like I was saying
with Madonna
with Angel
she originally thought
that was going to be
the first single
off the album
at least that's a great
fucking pop song
that's a great song
but smart for her to realize
as time went on
as they made more songs
she's like let's
hold it back
and let's bring this one instead
I mean we should
I should have had
Hangman Jerry
queued up
but I have something else
queued up
first because
this was
I don't know how early on
in their career but they started working with
professional songwriters.
And they worked with this guy. Desmond Child? Yes.
Did he co-write this one? He co-wrote this.
So Desmond Child has
co-written, oh my gosh.
So, and I picked one
that I thought, just because it shows how, like he's
worked with Kiss, he's worked with Cher,
Bonnie Tyler, Bon Jovi.
But the one that I picked is also from around the same time a little bit later uh so uh he did uh he also did
um he he co-wrote uh the i just saw alice cooper last week oh yeah uh he co-wrote alice cooper
poison like he did that whole album with alice cooper yeah he's also featured in trash also
featured in wayne's world trash is. Yeah, but the one that I picked
is from a
pop artist
that I thought, just to show
what the influence
of a writer can do.
So this is the Mind Blow. This guy also
co-wrote this song.
You can finish out Angel if you want.
Oh yeah.
Huge song.
But those kind of songwriters would work
with rock bands because it brought that level of songwriting.
This is more of a Jim Steinman style.
Yeah. The production is, yeah.
But compositionally,
Desmond Child was the shit at the time.
He wrote so much.
He was like Diane Warren.
You know Diane Warren. Of course.
Gave Aerosmith their biggest hit.
Yeah.
Same kind of thing.
Yeah, I don't want to miss a thing.
Which, by the way, Angel was their biggest hit.
Until.
Until I don't want to miss a thing.
The ballads are the hits.
The ballads are the hits.
Yeah.
So this, so Michael Bolton, say what you want about him.
You know.
I celebrate the man's entire catalog.
I actually.
You know what?
It's great pop music. Oh, what? It's great pop music.
Oh, yeah.
It's great pop music.
Yeah, but you like him
better since he did
the Lonely Island stuff.
Oh, sure.
I like him better.
I like somebody who,
like Richard Marks,
for instance.
Richard Marks is great
because he doesn't
take himself too seriously
and he realizes that
he was from a moment
and you get.
And this is like,
you know,
the fact that the same guy
co-wrote this and Angel
makes total sense.
Yeah.
And you can understand.
So is this more rocky because of him or is...
It's all about the production.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, you know, I was going to say the thing with the Aerosmith production on that album, Permanent Vacation,
it was produced by Bruce Fairburn from Vancouver.
Yeah.
Who did, if you work backwards from there, he did Slippery When Wet for Bon Jovi.
Right.
Big album.
And he also did Honeymoon Suite, Big Prize.
Okay. So that was the album they released just before I joined the band.
Just before you joined the band.
Yep.
But the stories we had heard that Bon Jovi loved the Big Prize so much that that's why
they asked Bruce to produce them.
Wow.
So it kind of went Honeymoon Suite.
I mean, he was kind of making his way along with the bands, right?
Right.
And Aerosmith did the same thing.
They're like, you go to the producer that's going to give you the hits.
Well, Metallica with Bob Rock, right?
Oh, and actually Get a Grip is Bob Rock.
Bob was Bruce's engineer.
So it was always Bob and Bruce together.
Oh, I didn't know that side of it.
Midtown Gourd on the live chat has a mind blow for you guys.
You ready?
Sure.
Michael Bolton tried out for Black Sabbath.
And he would know his shit.
Midtown Gourd knows his fucking music.
It's amazing.
Especially if it's Black Sabbath style, heavy metal
hard rock shit. Cool.
I believe this man. He also says
he personally
loved
Done With Mirrors. He said it was a great album.
Oh, cool. That's good. I don't know that I ever actually heard it.
You know what? I don't know anything from it.
And I have a ton of
vinyl. I was the guy for years
everybody's uncle was getting rid of their vinyl, and it came to me.
And I got a whole bunch of stuff from the old Q107 library as well.
And I have a bunch of Aerosmith.
I don't have done with mirrors.
I've never seen it.
Never even seen it.
Ow!
Woo!
Like that.
Yeah, I don't recognize, like, again, I'm a reasonable Aerosmith fan, but I don't recognize these singers.
I've seen Aerosmith twice.
I saw them on that tour they did with Run DMC and Kid Rock.
Yeah.
It was phenomenal.
Wow.
And I saw them also with a kid named Johnny Lang open for them.
Remember Johnny Lang?
Yeah.
The blues kid?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ridiculous.
Yeah.
Wow.
I didn't realize how much of an Aerosmith fan I am until I saw them. And I was like, oh, yeah, these guys are great.
Yeah.
Okay, the lead single.
We're talking about Aerosmith listening to Michael Bolton.
Yeah.
Let the music do the talking was the lead single.
Yeah.
And then Sheila.
Don't know any of it.
Which is a better 5440 song.
Aerosmith could do How Could We Love You Lovers.
They can cover this.
No problem.
You know, I remember seeing an interview with Dave Grohl.
Yeah. Talking about making music and how he, you know, I remember seeing an interview with Dave Grohl talking about making music and
how he, you know, he can't read music and he just does it.
And he thinks about a guitar as like a drum kit.
Yeah.
This string is like the bass and this string, you know.
And he said, you know, somebody asked him, well, how do you write a song?
And he was just like, he's like, I just want to make a fucking hit.
He goes, think about Aerosmith.
He literally said, he goes, Aerosmith knows how to fucking do it. it like that's how they that they know how to write a hit for sure and they
really do they have all along so we i mentioned there's big bands you know we've got aerosmith
we got madonna there's some big fucking angel songs yeah you know what this is a big fucking
rock band you ready yeah
how you think yeah
are we gonna miss oh there's gotta be some other stuff we going to miss?
Oh, there's got to be some other stuff we're going to miss.
Now that we're getting into it, I'm like, oh, there's stuff I wanted to do.
Did anyone pick Poison?
They have a good Angel song, Poison.
No.
Nope. Touch the ground, a jam cave Snow is melting on the ground Near this, I heard the sound
Of an angel
New York like a Christmas tree
Night, the city belongs to me
Angel
Oh yeah, I'm loving my little thing here, Rodney.
We love our new toy.
And I love Rattle and Hum. I just want to throw it toys. And I love Rattle and Hum.
I just want to throw it out there.
I love Rattle and Hum.
So much.
All right, Robbie, talk to us.
Angel of Harlem.
This is one of the songs.
I think the three songs that I sent you were the first three songs that came into my head
as far as angel songs.
That's the best way to do it.
Yeah, really.
Trust the instinct.
But this was recorded in Memphis
on the Rattle and Hum tour.
They went into Sun Studios in Memphis
because it's in the film, right?
And that's actually the recording they did.
And I was in Memphis in 1999.
I was doing this musical, Cats,
traveling around the States.
Oh, wow.
And I went to Sun Studios,
and there's a little museum.
I mean, you go in, there's a museum,
you get a tour.
But upstairs, they had the digital recorder
that U2 used.
Oh, wow.
It's actually in this room upstairs as well,
and they talk about it, which is cool.
But the horns
on this song are called the Memphis Horns,
and it's really...
Great horns on this song. Yeah, great songs. Great horns.
Two dudes, they
played on all the Stax records
like in the 60s and stuff, like sitting
on the dock of the bay and all that kind of stuff,
and the trumpet player from the Memphis Horns,
he's also featured on Peter Gabriel's Sledgehammer.
Well, that makes sense. You can sort of see the relation to that sound, right?
Totally makes sense.
Absolutely.
Now that you say that.
Totally the same kind.
There they are.
Great arrangement.
And then there's an organ on this song as well,
which I thought was really interesting
because I was researching for this
and I didn't really ever know it before.
It was like a session musician who used to be like,
he's like one of the world's greatest accordionists.
Oh, wow.
His name is Joey Miskelin.
Cool.
He used to play with Frankie Yankovic, who was when this-
Was Al Yankovic's dad?
No.
No?
I don't know.
No, no, no.
Frankie Yankovic?
Yes.
I don't think that's his dad.
I don't know for sure.
I don't know.
I feel his parents were just regular people.
Hang on.
But Joey, when he was a kid, played with Frankie Yankovic in the 60s as an accordionist.
He's like this virtuoso accordionist.
But he's playing an organ with you two on this,
which I think is amazing.
All right. Maybe no relation.
I like that, though.
Let's stick with it.
He is not related to Weird Al.
That was one of the possibilities.
How many Yankevichs?
How many Yankevichs?
What a great song this is.
I think we have to do a DNA test.
I don't have to do a DNA test. Do you...
I don't want to get off the angel thing.
Do you have a moment,
something you got to play?
Like an organ or like a moment,
like something that you were like,
I got to do this.
Like I have to play on a...
I don't know,
like a church organ
or something that blew your mind
you got to be able to do?
I played...
Well, like when we did our song Tell No Lies, Nile Rodgers had this keyboard called a synclavier, a church organ or something that blew your mind you got to be able to do? I played, well,
like when we did
our song Tell No Lies,
Nile Rodgers had this
keyboard called a
synclavier,
which was like a
$200,000 synth
in the 80s.
Okay.
It was like this
the most high-tech thing
and I did some
keyboard stuff on that
which was super exciting.
That's fun.
Because basically,
you know,
I didn't know
what to do with it
except find a couple
of sounds and play it,
but I would have
never had the opportunity
otherwise.
To be on this
amazing machine.
That's cool.
Yeah.
All right,
I'm only playing this song
because I do love Angel of Harlem by U2.
I love it a lot,
but it does remind me of this song.
Oh, yeah.
The organ and everything, right?
Yep.
And I mean, if you're going to steal from a song,
why not steal from, like, these songs?
Right.
Totally similar, yeah.
Yep.
We got to do some mashups.
Right.
I've always wanted to.
I've never, I don't know keys well enough.
Like, but yeah, perfect.
Just call me angel. It fits everything. Just call me angel in the morning, baby.
It fits everything.
See, they're all the same.
No, it's true.
Have you ever seen
there's a comedian out there,
a guy who does
like a whole thing.
That six chords.
Yeah, remember when
that vitamin C graduation.
It's all based on
Pachelbel's Canon.
Everything's Pachelbel's Canon.
That's really good, actually.
Everything is Pachelbel's Canon.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
It's closing time. It's really good, actually. It's really well done. Everything is Pockabills Canon. Pretty much. Yep. Yep. It's closing time.
It's true.
One last.
Okay.
Do, do, do.
Do, do, do, do.
Right.
Yep.
Everything.
Having a great time now.
Okay.
So, Angel of Harlem.
Great song.
Great angel.
A lot of great angel songs.
Yeah.
Here's another one for you guys.
You ready?
Let's do it.
I am an old woman
Named after my mother
My old man is another
Child that's grown old
If dreams were lightning
Thunder were desire
This old house would have burnt down
A long time ago
Make me an
angel
that flies from Montgomery
make me a poster
of an old
rodeo
just give me
one thing
that I can hold on to
To believe in this living
Is just a hard way to go
Do either of you two whippersnappers
want to name the artist?
Sure.
I mean, now you're acting like a cool guy.
This is the original.
This is John Prine.
This is John Prine. Yeah, this is John Prine. I'm very interested. This is John Prine.
I'm very interested to talk about John Prine with you guys because
his resurgence is really
interesting to me, but the big hit is Bonnie Raitt's
version. Well, that's the mind blow
coming up next. Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to
ruin your mind. It's all blowing my mind.
We're going to let John Prine go fish.
This is a great pick, by the way.
On the note that you just played there, Bobby,
I only started to appreciate this song
after he passed away from COVID-19.
And John Prine's a guy hiding in plain sight.
He's there.
He dies.
I start diving in and I'm like, what the fuck?
How good is this guy?
My father-in-law, who is a born in Dublin,
75-year-old Irish dude,
loves traditional Irish music. loves, he listened to everything.
And he knew John Prine, like, would have gone to, like, the longboat up in Yorkville and all, you know.
Riverboat.
Riverboat, excuse me, yeah.
Like, he was hanging out.
He was at the, and I believe him because he was at the 72 recording with Neil Young at Massey Hall.
Massey Hall, yeah.
That kind of, so, and he loves John Prine
and especially loves
the late John Prine stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm interested to hear
about your guys'
experience with John.
I'm like Mike,
I didn't really get to know him
until after we passed away.
Yeah.
Okay, so I have a caveat,
which is,
I really didn't dive in
until after he died.
Yeah.
But I do these FOTM
Kick Out the Jams episodes.
Yeah.
I did a lot
during the COVID-19
and somebody
wanted me to play hello in
there,
but the version he re he re-recorded.
So hello in there is a song from this era,
I guess,
young prime.
And then in his older years,
John Prine re-records hello in there.
And I love this song so fucking much,
this hello in there.
I like this new version of prime,
like songs about old people.
And this is an old guy singing it this
song's about old people okay anyway so i'm kind of digging this john prine song and i go this guy's
interesting then he dies then i dive in and i always i think i joked on this very program like
there's got to be a word for when you like start to like an artist after they die posthumously
i like an artist i don't whatever they die now i like thisously. Posthumously. Posthumously. Lots of times. I like an artist.
I don't.
Whatever.
They die.
Now I like this artist.
Yeah, for sure.
Because you just... Where are you going to get
introduced to John Prine?
Yeah.
Living in Toronto.
Like in the...
Even 70s and 80s.
Like that's not...
John Prine doesn't have
radio hits.
John Prine doesn't have
country radio hits.
He had to be covered.
Yes.
I'll play it right now
while we talk about John Prine. John Prine doesn't have hits. But people know to be covered yes I'll play it right now while we talk about
John Prine
John Prine doesn't have hits
but people know his name
but music people
who is
who is the other big one
that I
there's a bunch of
people that music people love
oh yeah
there's lots of them
a lot of them
and when you get into them
you're like
oh okay
okay so it's funny
we're playing Bonnie Raitt
because she's got a tour
coming up
I am an old woman.
Here she is.
She had a hit with this one.
Named after my mother.
But Royal Wood is opening for Bonnie Raitt on her tour coming up.
Nice.
And Royal Wood is in this basement tomorrow morning at 9.30 a.m.
That's super cool.
He's an early cat, huh?
Nice.
He's got a lot of press to do.
I think he's...
The other big one besides John Prine, Tom Waits.
Tom Waits. Tom Waits, who's still alive.
But never had a radio hit.
Music, people who know music love Tom Waits.
I think it's a generational thing, too, though,
because people who grew up in the 60s into the 70s loving music in general,
there was way more access to things that weren't just on the radio.
You were listening to FM radio was playing stuff that wasn't necessarily,
it wasn't about the hits, to FM radio was playing stuff that wasn't necessarily. Yeah.
It wasn't about the hits, right?
It was playing
alternative.
David Morrison would
put on that deep cut.
Yeah.
Chum FM.
Okay.
The production is so
crazy on this.
This is 74.
It's got really
interesting, like,
it's really clean,
like, sounding for 74.
Sometimes you get a
little loss or
something, you know?
This kind of,
this style though, I think,
I mean, it's like Joni Mitchell recording
in that era too, right?
Yeah, fair enough.
Beautiful sounding stuff.
But very specifically,
it's like acoustic,
folky bass, I guess.
This is 74?
Yeah, it's 74.
So Prine writes,
Prine's version is 71
and Bonnie Rae is 74.
This is from Streetlights.
Yeah.
Sorry, you know,
Bonnie Raitt
has been around forever.
I only, like,
discovered her
in, like, the late 80s,
I want to say.
Me too.
I still remember
watching that Grammys.
Oh, yeah.
When Let's Give Him
Something to Talk About
was the big single.
Right.
And there was a bunch,
it was like 89 or something,
early 90s,
and there was a bunch of,
like, I still remember,
like, there would have been
artists like Belle Biv Devoe or all nominated, and then bonnie rate goes and wins all these grammys and
as a 13 or 14 year old kid i'm like who the fuck is bonnie right now right who's this old lady
coming up and she was and then it just happened again two years ago she was old and now she's
doing it yeah obviously i wrote that song too that Well, let's give her something to talk about.
It's CanCon.
Shirley Eichardt.
Shirley Eichardt.
Yes, right.
She just passed away.
Okay, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
So here's a Bonnie Raitt quote about this song.
Okay.
I think Angel from Montgomery probably has meant more to my fans
and my body of work than any other song,
and it will historically be considered one of the most important ones
I've ever recorded.
It's just such a tender way of expressing
that sentiment of longing.
Like, hello in there,
without being maudlin or obvious.
It has all the different shadings of love
and regret and longing.
It's a perfect expression from a wonderful genius.
Wow.
And when you get into him,
it's unbelievable how good his stuff was.
Yeah.
Do you see that special that Strombo did in his house?
Yes.
It's really good.
Like FOTM, I'm sure.
I think he's supposed to be on a couple times at least, hasn't he?
He's an FOTM 100%.
Yeah.
But he's only been here once.
Yeah.
But George did that when he was doing those things in his house with John Price.
And Gordon Lightfoot's in the audience and they're talking about.
Yeah.
It's pretty amazing.
And that was like one of his last public performances.
It was like a few months later.
He was dead.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
He died from what was in your house this past week.
That's right.
And not here, by the way.
I'm crying, boys.
Don't worry.
Just kidding.
All right.
So the Angel Jams is going very well.
I think this is one of our strongest.
We're flowing.
Yeah.
Like, I'm liking the difference., like I'm liking the difference.
Yeah, I'm liking the difference.
Yeah, but it's been going so smooth and so
well and I now see what's coming up
on the horizon. This is me.
This fucking Bob
Ouellette always
just disrespecting the program. Not at all.
No. Wait till you... Okay, let's listen. I'll give you a benefit
of the doubt and then you can explain yourself. Okay, let's kick it.
Sounds angelic. I'll give you a benefit of the doubt and then you can explain yourself. Let's kick it.
Sounds angelic.
Harps.
Your story's sad to tell A teenage ne'er-do-well
Most mixed-up, non-delinquent, on the block
Your future's so unclear now
What's left of your career now
Can't even get a trade in on your smile.
What's going on here?
Beauty school dropout
See, I had a question about this very thing.
Congratulations, Dave, for you
Beauty school dropout
Missed your midterms and flunked shampoo
Well, at least you could have taken time
To wash and clean your clothes up
After spending all that dough to have the doctor fix your nose up
Baby, get moving
Why keep your feeble hopes alive?
What are you proving?
You've got the dream, but not the drive
If you go for your diploma, you can join us at a pool.
Turn in your tees and comb and go back to high school.
Come on, everybody knows this song.
I don't know this song.
You don't know this song?
No.
You've never seen Grease the movie?
No.
Oh.
How is that possible?
You need to see Grease. How have you never seen Grease the movie? No. Oh. How is that possible? You need to see Grease.
How have you never seen that?
I've never even been close
to seeing Grease the musical
to be honest.
I know the big hit.
The 1978 classic
was on Broadway in 73,
something like that.
Are you shaming me?
Yeah, big time.
You should,
so this is
You should watch it
with your camera.
Beauty School Dropout
by the character
Teen Angel
who is Frankie Valli.
Frankie Avalon.
Frankie Avalon.
Oh, yeah, Frankie Avalon.
Sorry, you're right.
Time out.
So Angel's not in the name of the song, right?
No, but it is performed by the character performing it is Teen Angel.
And the entire scene in the movie, they're all dressed like angels.
They're like angels.
Yeah.
Floating away.
Yeah.
He comes in the white suit.
When I saw, I saw a touring version of Grease here in Toronto,
and some loser from American Idol, what was his name?
The guy with the white hair.
Not Bo Bice.
One of the, he came, he was.
Michael McDonald.
No, yeah, exactly.
He came out as.
Really, he was Teen Angel?
He was Teen Angel.
I can't remember the guy's name.
I'm sure somebody in the chat...
So, did they mention Angel in the song at all?
Never.
No.
But the character is Teen Angel.
I remember that.
And the entire scene in the movie and the play is all Angel related.
It's an Angel jam.
And then, oh, there is this.
Gotta be going to that malt shop in the sky.
So...
Speaking of death.
This is...
Yeah.
This is... So, I don't have any mind blows about this except for
this is just one of the greatest musical movies of all time uh universally loved if um beauty
school dropout i in 1990 91 i'm in grade. I didn't mean to kick you there, sorry.
Go back to high school.
He's very excited.
I love singing along to this.
It must be one of your karaoke jams.
Grease, okay, so everyone's seen Grease?
Grease, okay, because I do know there's that Greased Lightning or whatever.
What's the song?
Yeah, John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John.
John Travolta sings?
Yeah, Summer Nights. Summer Nights, that's the John Travolta sings. Yeah, Summer Nights.
Summer Nights,
that's the one I'm thinking of.
Well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
well,
I know that song,
but nothing in that song
ever made me feel like
I want to hear more of this.
It just sounded like a
musical theater.
Which it totally is.
Which was a previous episode.
A bunch of the,
there's a few songs in the movie
that were written just for the movie,
including Sandy and You're the One
That I Want. And Hopelessly
Devoted to You. And the Grease title track by Frankie Valli.
All of those were not in the original musical.
But if anyone's listening to their first toast,
which is ridiculous, go back and listen to all the toasts.
You two are big
fans of musical theater.
He's made us living out of it.
You're also a big fan.
I was going to share a personal anecdote about that.
Me and the brother on the, not brother Bill, but brother Neil,
he's not into musical theater as I'm not am I.
So this song, I would just not have encountered that song in my entire life.
And hearing it now, I think you'd have to be a big musical theater guy maybe to dig that.
Or to get it.
To get it.
And to be fair, it's actually very self-aware. to be fair, it's actually like very self-aware.
It's a very,
in the movie,
it's completely tongue in cheek.
It's a dream sequence.
It's a dream sequence and it's tongue in cheek.
Yeah.
When I was,
so I was,
uh,
when I was 14 years old,
uh,
grade nine in 1990,
I go to my high school and,
um,
I take drama because I'm a big loud mouth.
Yeah.
And my high school,
uh, was St. Pat's in East Toronto.
And the teacher was this lovely woman, Ms. O'Brien.
And they did these big musicals every year.
We would do four or five.
And we had four or five performances.
We had an auditorium, like a theater that held 400 people.
It was a big deal.
And it was Greece.
You guys did Greece?
We did Greece.
Wow.
And I can still remember. So I'm grade nine. You got all these kids all the way up. greece we did greece and i can still remember so i'm grade nine
you got all these kids all the way up and again we still have grade 13 there so we got like
19 year olds and i got up i was in i was a greaser i was in the chorus yeah but i also got a part
for the very first i was vince fontaine the dj yes i get casted premonition yes i get casted and i can still remember a gentleman um do who uh was also a
greaser yeah uh was cast as teen angel it was this kid this guy terry sussa did it and i get
and they dressed them all in white and watched it and he he was he he over pronounced everything
and a great and amazing your stories sad to tell and watching it i was just like this is great
and that kind of hooked me on theater
and on musical theater that was the start for you yeah that was it yeah and then and that was 90
again and we've talked about this before we've nerded out about then les mis comes to town then
you know phantom's already here cats is here all this stuff yep so here we are that was it that
was so and then yeah so when angel came i was like i got like a teen angel angel you thought
a teen angel okay so this song which i don, okay, but listen to it for a few seconds.
Sounds like fun.
A bad recording of like an 80s hard rock song.
Bring the noise.
Okay.
So this song is called Rapture.
Maybe Midtown Gord knows this song.
I don't know.
But it's by a band called Morbid Angel.
Okay.
Is this a fucking Angel song, Bob Willett? Because the band's got Angel in the this song. I don't know, but it's by a band called Morbid Angel. Okay. Is this a fucking angel
song, Bob Willett? Because the band's
got angel in the fucking title. I don't know. I haven't seen
the video or the context. Morbid Angel.
Maybe the context. Rob Proust, look
me in the eyes. Is this an angel
jam by Morbid Angel?
Is this an angel jam?
No, you would say this is... That's a bad
precedent. You know what? You're splitting hairs,
sir. What's the difference?
What's the difference?
The difference is watch the video.
Watch the video of the scene from the movie.
If there's an angel.
My question, when you started the song, my question about the contextualizing of an angel
was if the angel has to be in the title only.
You went one step further, and you put the angel in the character.
Because I was like...
Yeah, I want to push boundaries.
I want to open Mike's mind. He's so
fucking narrow minded.
I'm looking for backup. So I'm going straight
to Leslie. You're so funny.
Leslie says great song.
Great movie. Yeah.
Doesn't qualify. Sorry, Bob.
Sorry, Leslie. You're wrong.
You are wrong. It is because especially
watch Google the scene from
the movie, dude. Watch it on YouTube. There's nothing. They're all dressed like angels. It is because especially watch Google the scene from the movie, dude. Watch it on YouTube.
There's nothing.
They're all dressed like angels.
It is an angel song.
Oh, my goodness.
Okay.
Well, you know, it's almost like the Brandon Flowers.
What would it take?
The Brandon Flowers.
I knew I was pushing.
I know.
The Brandon Flowers.
I think you're pushing him here, too, though.
I think this is a good point.
Are you taking a stand against Bob?
I want to witness this.
Keep going.
No, no.
No, I understand. Rob's the nicest guy on the planet. He's going to let you get away with to witness this. Keep going. No, I
understand. He's the nicest guy on the planet.
He's going to let you get away with murder.
But look.
So look, we had this
conversation and we have it all the time.
That's why we didn't do the God one
because I'm like, we do Dear God.
Can I also do like Here I
Am Lord, the hymn I used to sing in my
Catholic school. That's a God song.
Right? So Bob, this is bullshit. bullshit yeah there you go rob yeah rob is that serious it hurts i'm excited no you
can't do it i can't do it he's too nice it hurts you're like you're like mr dress up you know yeah
i am but because i'm like i'm a libra uh oh you're a libra i'm a libra yeah problem well that doesn't
mean anything it It doesn't.
It's 112 of the world.
It's fucking Libra.
But 112 of the world,
we're all Charlie Browns.
So we see both sides of the equation. I actually heard a podcast the other day
where they were talking about,
it was like,
we need to talk about the artist that is Kanye
and what is happening with Kanye.
And it was like,
they're having a conversation about this
because hip hop's turning 50
and they were doing this conversation.
And I was interested in Convo
until a lady started talking about Kanye West's,
what is it called again?
Astrology sign.
Astrology sign.
And explaining that, like,
Like as if it was fact?
Yeah, like as if that's,
his sign explains some of his behavior.
So that's why he can be anti-Semitic?
Right, anti-Semitic.
Yeah, yeah, right.
And I was so angry
that there was a human being on this planet
that would actually think that the month you were born, it would affect, would somehow excuse any kind of behavior like that.
It doesn't excuse it.
Okay.
So Morbid Angel's Rapture, we agree, is also an angel jam.
Sure.
If Bob's fucking jam from what is it?
If that, then sure.
Frankie Avalon does a song for Grease.
Yep.
And you think that's an angel jam.
The character is called Teen Angel. The scene is him
coming from heaven
and all of the pink ladies
are dressed as angels.
That, my friend,
is a fucking angel jam.
Painted Ladies
is an Ian Thomas song.
I said the pink ladies.
Did I say painted?
No, I said pink ladies.
Brother of Dave Thomas,
though.
I'm just tying it all together.
Okay, whatever.
All right.
So we have one more jam here from Rob Pruce,
keyboardist with Spoons and Honeymoon Suite,
and now working on Broadway.
Are you currently working?
I'm not working on Broadway currently.
Why can't I say that?
You can say it.
You can say it.
Broadway.
Yeah, sure.
No, I was just curious if you were.
I would like to know.
Are you working at all?
With my wife, you know, we do a lot of teaching on my solo projects.
I don't know. I didn't know that. I was going to say you said you were in a recording session today. Are you all hush? With my wife, you know, we do a lot of teaching on my solo projects. I don't know why I didn't know that.
I was going to say, you said you were in a recording session today.
Are you all hush-hush about it?
No, it's a band from Hamilton called The Foreign Films.
Okay.
And I've worked on their albums for the last four or five years, I guess.
Oh, nice.
But usually it's long distance.
Maybe they'll be played on Kingston Radio if Bob Willett takes that back.
I had an interesting lunch with the vice president of audio with Chorus Entertainment today. Really? Yeah.
My boss's boss. Can you name that person?
Yeah. Ronnie Stanton's his name. I know that name.
Yep. Absolutely. He is the
I actually know that name and I only know
a few names. No. Ronnie Stanton.
He's in town and I missed
seeing him in Kingston because of
the COVID thing. Yeah. They didn't want me
to come because they thought I might. If I
did have it. Yeah. We didn't have it. But he they thought I might. If I did have it, we didn't have it.
But he was in town, so I went and had dim sum with him
today. Had a very interesting conversation
with him. Can you reveal anything
of an interesting nature that you
discussed with Ronnie Stanton?
Yeah, it's...
I'm not telling
any secrets. It's bleak right now, man.
We're not doing well.
Radio in general, not just us. It's a really really really tough time okay you're doing all you can but uh yeah sort of
like this play to record documentary i saw where the uh suddenly djs were using uh files yeah
they didn't need the vinyl anymore it's like. It's like, you know, we can argue about whether who, which wing of Nordstar, who owns Toronto
Star.
Yeah, because I don't believe that Toronto Star is.
No, but you're right.
That wing has not filed for bankruptcy protection yet.
Yet.
Right.
That's all.
That's all.
Where's Wise Blot when we need him?
You explain it.
And I love what I do.
And Ronnie Stanton, my boss's boss, who is a really good guy, loves what we do.
It's really hard right now, to be completely
honest. It is really hard. I think
in a lot of the arts slash entertainment
world, it's similar. It's very
Marshall McLuhan. The medium has changed
so much for us
and then what happens is two of your
major companies here in Canada
are owned by
big telecoms and
they don't look at it as
an art, as something
they should invest in. And I completely
understand why. You got shareholders, you got
but it is hard right now, man. It is
hard. The cuts have been hard. And the problem
with the changes that go on, and this is
not just the arts today, but the changes,
technological changes that happen, once
a cat is out of the bag,
the genie doesn't go back
in the bottle.
You can't put the toothpaste
back in the tube.
Yeah,
whatever thing you want to use.
Whatever thing,
yeah,
you can't.
That's right.
Because people,
I mean,
I hear people talking
about the writer's strike
with streaming
and the film world
and I understand that
and then a lot,
I hear people wanting
to bring it back
to the music business
and saying,
well,
you know,
the record companies
and streaming
and artists don't get paid
and I understand all that stuff.
You're right,
they don't.
But you're not going to tell the world to not listen
to every recording that's ever been made now because the genie's out of the bottle.
Every song is you need is right here in front of you or in your pocket.
Yeah.
And so what is, where does radio fit in there?
And the problem is our industry and this is our industry has cut so much, the things that
made us unique and all the tastemakers, the Alan Crosses who you mentioned, the David
Marsden's, those guys, they haven't been given there's no new guys there's no new
david marsden there's no new alan cross yeah but that world doesn't exist anymore no so i mean so
what where does it exist how does it exist and i know we're way off topic from angels but i'm
interested so yeah honestly this is the conversation i had yeah with a very high up guy in chorus and
and i'm not were you drinking at this lunch?
Not at all. He doesn't drink at all.
I had tea and water.
Okay, cold tea.
Not drinking at all.
No, I almost said cold tea
because it was right next to a place
I used to go for cold tea.
Hong Shing around Spadina and Dundas.
We would used to go there in the middle of the night
for cold tea, which was beer.
After closing time. Back when it was still 1 o'clock
last call. Crazy. You'd go there at 1.30
in the morning, get yourself some
fried rice and some cold tea, and they'd bring you
out a thing of cold tea.
Very Toronto. Sorry. No, don't apologize.
Please. Yeah.
You did ask, but yeah. But the thing we can agree on
is that angels are timeless. Angels supersede
all the bullshit that we talk about in all this stuff.
These songs have been great.
Yeah.
Except for mine, of course.
This is not a song any of us picked, but I just thought it was interesting.
The angels came in 61 to play in California, son.
Bill Rigney was the manager.
Like it's a special version of this song about California Angels players.
Where the fuck did you get this?
I know Mr. Baseball, Rob Bruce, doesn't give a fuck about any of this,
but it's kind of neat to hear like this is the California Angels version.
I know this song.
I know this song.
Talkin' Baseball was the hit, okay?
The Simpsons had Talkin' Softball, which was like a spoof on this.
And the Toronto Blue Jays got a version for their
10th birthday or something about Blue Jays.
But it sounds like every team had a version.
Wow. Actually, I have no idea.
I've never heard it.
You've heard Talking Baseball, right?
Really?
Is that this song?
Well, this is Talking Angels or something.
I feel like I've heard a version of this.
Talking Baseball. Talking Baseball.
Talking Baseball.
Nope, don't know it.
It was a big hit. Okay, fine. But anyway, this is the Angels Baseball song, and
I just thought it was interesting.
And lime and angels baseball.
Vader chalk and rye.
And who's singing it? Do you know?
It's the same guy. Is it?
The guy who sang the Talking Baseball
also sings
talking softball and talking angel shit i can't remember mr talking baseball johnny big fucking
hit everybody knows uh talking baseball everybody knows it's terry cashman so the big hit was called
um talking baseball willie mickey and the duke so this was like on the radio. Like it was a big deal.
Here, let me see if this will play.
I've got to mute it here.
The Wiz kids had won it.
Bobby Thompson.
I mean, I guess now I kind of.
Yeah, it's vaguely familiar, right?
Yeah.
Sounds like the theme for a TV show.
Cheers.
Mixellium.
Everybody knows your name.
Streets down to China.
Mr. Belvedere.
It totally does.
Hey, good afternoon, everybody.
Welcome to baseball.
I'm your host.
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
All right, Rob.
You ready for your final jam?
I'm ready.
Will it make me as angry as Bob's jam made me?
Not a chance.
No way.
Thank God.
Okay, here.
Thank God on this. Angels. Here we go. This Not a chance. No way. Thank God. Okay, here.
Thank God on this angel's.
Here we go. This is a big one, too.
Let's do it.
Let's do it. Crying on my pillow
Lonely in my bed
Then I heard a voice beside me
And she softly said
Wonder is your nightlight
Magic is your dream
And as I held her
She said, see what I mean
I said, what?
She said, ooh I said, see what I mean. I said, what? What? She said, ooh.
I said, all right.
She said, love me, love me, love me.
Undercover angel, midnight fantasy.
I've never had a dream that makes me love me.
Undercover angel, Answer to my prayer
You made me know that there's a love for me
Out there
Somewhere
Yeah, somewhere
Oh, I love that.
Come on.
Heavenly surrender
Undercover angel.
That song qualifies.
Well done, Rob Bruce.
This was actually the first song that came in my head.
Okay.
Was it?
Yeah, yeah.
Because this was on the radio.
This was a huge hit when I was 11 years old.
77.
77.
Yep.
It was for me.
And it's very quintessentially a 70s sound.
Yep.
With this.
What?
And then there's a little disco-y.
Yep.
And then here's Matthew McConaughey.
Alright, alright, alright.
Right? Totally.
But it's got all the synthesizers that were
happening from Gary Wright and people in those
in that era, it was becoming more and more
prevalent in the sound of the pop radio.
And this dude, Alan O'Day
is the singer and the writer.
It was his first hit as a singer,
but he already had it.
This song went to number one.
He had a number one hit from Helen Reddy,
a song called Angie Baby,
which was a huge song that I loved when I was like-
Which is almost an angel song, too.
Almost, yeah.
Angie Baby.
Angie Baby.
Yep.
So this song came out.
He recorded this on his own.
Before he even released an album,
he released this as a single,
and it went up the charts like zoomed up the charts
it's a great song
produced by a guy
named Michael Amardian
who was a keyboard player
that I've known
for years as a session musician
and I didn't really know
he was a producer
before that
he played accordion
speaking of accordion again
he played accordion
on Piano Man
for Billy Joel
which I think is cool
that is cool
produced this song
kind of a forgotten number one, though.
Same thing.
It's what I was just about to say
going back to your other angels.
I never hear this fucking song.
No.
So it was, yeah.
This should be on
any classic hit station.
If it's playing 70s songs, for sure.
Yeah, if it's doing 70s, 80s, 90s,
which a lot of them do,
whether it's Bob or whatever,
Bounce or whatever the names are
or Boom
or whatever
there's a bounce now too right
yeah yeah
Bounce is out of Hamilton
but it's funny
because I feel like
the songs of course
that I picked
it's my era
like we're only going to pick
what comes into our minds
no I know
but for me
you picking Teen Angel song
is an instinctive thing
for you
with angels in your life
and in your world
for me
Angel songs
like with Angel in the title came pretty naturally too but you only refer to what you've angels in your life and in your world. For me, angel songs, like with Angel in the Tidal, came pretty naturally too.
But you only refer to what you've got in your world.
Okay, so I'm about to kick out the final jam.
I just want to point out an artist has been Hanson'd.
Rob, do you know what that means when an artist gets Hanson'd?
Is it the same as being Rickrolled?
No.
Okay.
When there's an obvious pick kind of hanging in there.
There's two that have been.
Really?
Well, okay.
What do you think it is?
Do you want me to tell you?
Well, no, because I do have one to go, but the big one I'm thinking of is Sarah McLachlan.
Sarah McLachlan, Angel, yeah.
Yeah.
That's Hanson.
I left it off.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
But what's the one you're thinking of, Bob?
Angel Eyes, Jeff Healy.
You know what?
Yes.
And that one's even got an FOTM connection.
You didn't have Jeff Healy's Angel Eyes?
No.
Oh, that's two Hansons.
We double Hanson this.
Now, how do you get
the name Hanson?
What's the Hanson connection?
Because Hanson the band.
Pandemic Fridays.
We had a series of,
it was funny,
because the reason
the name came about
is because we did
brother bands
or sibling bands.
It was brother bands
and no one picked Hanson.
So we go,
how come no one picked Hanson?
Then we did boy bands
like the next week
and no one picked Hanson.
And then we said, it became the term for when there's an obvious pick, and no one picks it, and they get Hanson.
So Sarah McLachlan, Angel Eyes, Jeff Healy.
Yeah, no, two big ones.
But okay, so.
Girl, you're looking fine tonight.
Yeah.
Which is ironic, because he's blind, right?
That's right, I know.
Did you see his video?
That's why his song, See the Light, was there.
Yeah, it was always strange.
I love that. Oh, that's a great jam. Yeah. See the Light, was there. Yeah, it was always strange. I love that.
Oh, that's a great jam.
Confidence Man.
Was that the name of the album?
I know there's a big single, Confidence Man.
But See the Light might have been the name of it.
What do you got then?
All right.
I do have a Canadian artist.
And I feel an artist that doesn't get the love it deserves is this artist, this band, okay?
I'm curious now.
Let's take it home.
Let's go local.
I mean, Jeff Healy's local,
but let's do this.
Just drink it in
with your Great Lakes.
Just soak it in
on a Sunday night. Ah. Oh, yeah. And sometimes just plain mad.
I need him to keep me satisfied.
I said, Papa, don't cry.
Because it's all right.
And I see you in some of his ways Though he might not give me
The life that you wanted
I'll love him the rest of my days
A misguided angel hanging over me
Heart like a game, pure and white as I am
Soul like a lucifer, black and gold like a piece of lead
One of the great Toronto bands.
Yep.
I totally forgot about this.
Cowboy Junkies. Yeah.
In fact, Tobias Vaughn is on the live chat.
He says he's seen this band in a couple of weeks.
Yeah, they're touring right now, right?
That's cool.
You should see them at the Gladstone on a weekly basis,
just jamming out.
Yeah, hanging out there in the main area there.
And Tobias Vaughn says, this is a great choice.
That's all the validation I needed right there.
Leslie says, great song.
I'd forgotten about it.
Okay. Beautiful song, right. Leslie says, great song. I'd forgotten about it. Okay.
Beautiful song, right?
A hauntingly beautiful song.
Yeah.
A song, by the way,
doesn't even have its own Wikipedia page, this song.
Yeah, I believe that.
Jokororu says, good evening, all.
Good evening to Jokororu.
Jokororu?
I hope I don't have extra syllables in there.
Okay.
If I do, sue me.
All right, so this is from the second studio album by the Cowboy Junkies, The Trinity Session.
So not actually a studio album because it was recorded live.
Oh.
100%. In a church.
This man knows his shit, okay?
They recorded it inside the Church of the Holy Trinity.
Very angel-like for them to do that.
And the band is like circled around like a microphone. Yeah. And the band is circled around a microphone.
Yeah.
It's the church on Bloor Street, right?
Yeah. I saw Jeff Buckley play there once.
Oh, wow. I was going to say, I saw Chantel Carvillazza,
but Jeff Buckley's way cooler.
He opened for Ridley Funeral Home.
That's beautiful. Wow.
It is an amazing place. But I'm listening to this thinking,
oh, I can hear that space.
For sure. You can tell this is not a studio.
I'd love to hear
this on vinyl, right?
With an analog system.
I don't think they have it at PlayDirect here, actually.
No, maybe not there, but somewhere.
So now
that we know, live on the floor in a church,
listen again.
A lot of accordion today. Church, listen again.
A lot of accordion today.
Accordion jams.
Is that next month?
We could do it.
Well, Spirit of the West. I would do accordion jams.
Really?
Yeah, no, he's not a fan.
I could.
I think we have to now.
Oh, no.
That's a tough one.
I don't know if I could pick three.
I know.
It's part of the fun.
Oh, you know what?
I could do, actually.
John Mellon.
Well, I married into an Irish family.
I could find lots.
Oh, I could do an accordion dance.
Oh, man.
Really, you need to marry into a Polish family.
Oh, the Irish, like they're...
Do they?
Oh, the accordion?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, they were...
The Dubliners.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's true.
Oh, the accordion?
Oh, yeah.
The Dubliners.
Okay.
Yeah.
Imagine being in that studio or that church when... It's unbelievable.
Hauntingly beautiful song.
Yeah.
Great job.
Written by the siblings.
Margot and Michael Timmons wrote this song.
Of course, that's Margot's haunting voice there, but you can hear Michael in there, too.
And the song is...
A single take.
They don't stitch it together and cheat.
And the name of the song,
I don't think you've actually said.
Misguided Angel.
Yeah, there you go.
Okay.
Apparently, so this is the lore,
is that they are doing this in the church
and they need more time to get this right
because they're doing it in a single take.
And to get stuff done,
they pay the security guard
25 bucks or something
to get two more hours
of time in the church
and then look what
happened here.
So beautiful
but I will shout out
this album
because this album
has a cover.
Oh Sweet Jane's
on it.
Yeah of course.
This is amazing.
Right.
And I'm trying
because we're in like
88 or something now
and I think
I think I discover
Yeah. This song? Sweet Jane. Sure. Yeah probably. Yeah. A lot of people like that. Because of Cowboy Junkies. And I'm trying, because we're in like 88 or something now, and I think I discover Sweet
Jane.
Sure.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah.
A lot of people like that.
Because of Cowboy Junkies.
Yep.
Yep.
For sure.
And you hear it.
This is a gorgeous song, too.
This is, again, talking about posthumous discoveries, because then everybody's like, well, for people
of our generation, you're like, who's Velvet Underground?
And you work backwards.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Right.
No, there's no shame in that.
The only heroin I'll take, the only heroin I'll do
is Heroin by Velvet Underground.
There you go.
I didn't realize this.
Is this a one take as well?
Probably.
Like from the same album?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, I did not know that.
I mean, they might have done it.
They might have done it several times.
Right, but this particular version.
What's interesting is
I think I just first discovered this song.
It was on one of the
Oh, What a Feeling compilations. Wait, wasn't... Is that true? I thought. It was on one of the Oh, What a Feeling compilations.
Wait, is that true?
I thought Misguided Angel might be on Oh, What a Feeling.
But I think there's two of them, though.
There's the black one and the silver one.
There's two volumes.
The first one I had.
But much music played Misguided Angel a lot.
Yes.
But I'm almost positive.
There's two Oh, What a Feeling CD collections.
And I think this is on
the second one.
That's cool.
One was like the 25th anniversary.
One was the 30th or something.
I'm on one of those.
You're on...
Twice, I think.
For sure.
And there's a Honeymoon Suite.
For sure you're on those.
Yeah.
I'll bring them in
for you to sign next time.
I know you won't.
I still have them.
Do you?
Oh, yeah.
I keep some...
I probably got about 300 CDs still.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Oh, Bob, I... I meant to bring you some stuff, actually. Okay, well, bring me shit. I will, I still. That's amazing. Yeah. Oh, Bob, I...
I meant to bring you some stuff, actually.
Okay, well, bring me shit.
I will, I will.
I need stuff, okay?
But I was going to tell you,
I biked over to the Roxy Hotel on...
What was that?
Last week.
You mean the Tim Hortons,
where the Roxy used to be?
No.
What are you talking about?
Queen and...
It's near Queen and Spadina.
It was west of there,
I suppose.
West of the Horseshoe
on Queen.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Roxy Hotel and Blues Bar
or whatever the fuck it's called.
I went there
and I recorded
in a little tiny hotel room,
which had no bathroom,
by the way.
Yes.
And it was $300
for the night.
And the guy
who had rented it
for the night was your colleague.
My coworker.
Bill Walichka.
My coworker,
Bill Walichka,
who does the morning show at Global TV Kingston,
who's been on Bob's Basement.
Amazing.
And also was the host of the Intimate Interactive with Gord Downie that I
asked a question at.
Did you?
I was there.
So we covered that
in great detail that moment that you're describing not not last week no we've talked about zoom we
did i did a bill zoom during the covid and then i did a in person last week that's right yeah and
we didn't have a chance to talk about that no that's fine we don't need to talk about it every
person with bill uh was really cool because it's like i was feeling kind of punchy i had a long
ride that day and i was i I had biked to East York
earlier in the day.
I saw that.
You passed right by my house.
So it's like,
I just like did my thing
or whatever
and it turned out really well.
So Bill Wilichka last week.
Bill's one of the good guys
in the industry
and he's very,
you know,
his book is called
something about,
a happy has been.
Happy has been.
Really?
Yeah.
I gotta read it.
Yeah, it's really good.
I can lend you my copy.
I got a copy upstairs.
I'll lend it to you. Yeah, because I read it for the interview. Okay. And I have got to read it. It's really good. I can lend you my copy. I've got a copy upstairs. I'll lend it to you. I read it for the interview.
I have a signed copy upstairs.
He literally, when I work out of Kingston,
not from home, I see him all the time.
He does the morning show there.
The equivalent of breakfast television here.
He's completely happy with what he's doing.
It was like, oh man, you were on this national.
You were much more music.
He was in Ottawa for a bit he's bounced around he meant in
ottawa then kingston and you know there's the old be a smaller market will be a big fish in a small
pond totally right and he is and he's respected and he gets to do what he wants that's awesome
on the show like the rex not the roxy why i don't know why you're talking about the Roxy. I don't know. The Roxy is the old Allenby, which the Roxy used to be at. It was a was a
theater at Greenwood and Dan for Roxy and they used to show. Yeah, on Friday
for years. It was one of the Toronto theaters that showed Rocky Horror
Picture Show every Friday night with throw toast. Yeah, then when you throw
toast, there we go, drop it all And it's not, but it's now,
it is now a Tim Hortons Esso.
Wow.
And it's,
and they put the old facade up at least.
Yeah.
And it looks like it was,
because before it was the Roxy,
it was the Allenby.
Okay. And it was like built in the forties.
And now it's an Applebee's.
And now,
yeah,
practically it's an Applebee's.
You are correct,
sir.
So yeah,
the Roxy,
I don't know.
That's why I didn't know what you were talking about.
Yeah.
No,
the Rex is very different.
I fucked up.
It won't be the last time
okay so
any final thoughts here
as we put a bow
on the Angel Jams
I thought we heard
some great music
I think you need to watch Grease
that's one takeaway
from this episode
for sure
Grease is worth seeking
and watching
are you sure
because like
we've already established
that I'm not really
that excited
by these musical theaters
it's a cute film though
but do you appreciate
what something, like the
value of a pop culturally
iconic film?
I, okay, I liked
what's the
one?
What's the one of the big plant that grows
little shop of horrors? Which was
never a Broadway play.
Oh, is that never?
It started as an off-Broadway. Also did that in grade 12. Did you? I was never a Broadway play. Oh, is that never? It started as an off-Broadway.
By the way, I also did that in grade 12.
Did you?
I was Mr. Mushnik.
Oh, jeez.
You'll be a dentist.
No, that was, yeah, that was the dentist.
That was Steve Martin.
I was Mr. Mushnik, and that was the guy who owned the flower shop.
And he wanted to adopt Seymour.
Wow, Seymour.
That's right.
Okay.
Tobias Vaughn, another quick fun fact.
He says, Nash the Slash lived upstairs at the
Roxy. At the Roxy?
Theater? Oh, that's
interesting. Tobias Vaughn knows his shit.
That's really cool. He means the Roxy.
Yeah, like the old theater. I believe that. Leslie says I should
watch Grease with my kids. Yes, that's what I
say too. Now, it depends on how old they are
because there is the whole thing of
where she thinks she's pregnant.
My kids know where babies come from.
Sure, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
And it also is weird because it is a bunch of people who are supposed to be in high school,
and they're all in their 30s.
They're all 28.
Yeah, that's true.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, so takeaways.
70s-style high school children.
Takeaways, a lot of great Angel songs.
Yeah.
Yeah, really good songs, like neat variety of songs.
Good variety.
Yeah.
Okay, before Lois to the Lo plays this out, do you want to have a quick
on-air meeting about
next month's topic? Do you have
any ideas? I would do accordion jams.
Can we come up with nine accordion jams?
Well, that's part of the challenge.
Nine unique accordion
jams. I think that's part
of the fun. Accordion to the rules, we need
nine. Get the fuck out of here um i could do it like i feel like uh the smaller the universe the more
interesting it can be like uh i i don't need you know i have to do it be like i have oh jams with
a in the title like a is like i'm looking for an artist named johnny accordion yeah right
just that way it makes sense.
Okay, so.
I got two off the top of my head.
Yeah, see?
Yeah.
I think this is our topic.
I don't know if people are interested in accordion jams is the question.
What the sellable.
Are you ready for this?
I don't care.
I don't care.
I also like it when the next month's topic organically comes out of the.
Yeah, it's true.
That's what happened here.
That's what happened last time.
The angel jam.
Although at some point,
but I think we should save it maybe for warmer weather.
But I do want us to do Yacht Rock because
the original Toasted Yacht Rock
was very popular. It was very controversial, wasn't it?
It would be very interesting if we just pretended that didn't happen
and we did our own Yacht Rock. Sure.
But not next month. Okay.
I feel like Yacht Rock is spring or something.
And we'll do that in the backyard. Yeah. In the spring. We'll do Yacht Rock in the spring. May or June or month. Okay. Don't. I feel like Yacht Rock is spring or something. Yeah, we don't want to do Yacht Rock in October. And we'll do that in the backyard.
Yeah.
In the spring.
We'll do Yacht Rock in the spring.
May or June or something.
Whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Did you have a good time?
Good time.
I had a lovely time.
I appreciate it.
Rob, I love my gift.
I love it.
You're welcome.
It's going to become more and more useful as time goes on.
You fold it up.
You take it with you everywhere.
There you go.
Look at that.
Yep.
Done.
When Royal Wood is here tomorrow, that name is on his birth certificate, by the way.
But when he's here tomorrow, I'm going to just be staring at my phone the whole time.
Yeah, you go.
I've got this great smartphone holder here.
Okay.
Bob, you're looking good.
I'm glad you didn't get COVID.
Yeah, I think I'm all good.
I think I made it through.
Shout out to Kingston.
Rob, let me know if you develop symptoms.
You let me know as well.
We'll confer.
Text me.
It's not raining, by the way.
I never did.
It never rained?
No.
It doesn't rain at Ports.
Could have been outside.
I know.
You never did take your shirt off.
You didn't go tarp self.
I plowed through.
You also didn't do your...
I went for you to do it.
I know.
I'm teasing you.
Oh, okay.
And that brings us to the end of our 1,000. it i know i'm teasing you okay and that
brings us to the end of our 1327th show you can follow me on twitter i'm at toronto mike bob is
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Rob, there was a guest
on Humble and Fred
last week that I booked.
Church of Trees.
Oh, yeah.
Bernard Fraser.
Brad Fraser.
I listened to that episode.
Yeah, Bernard Fraser.
And I sent in your remix.
Thank you for playing that.
Yeah.
And I heard Humble Howard
butcher your last name.
I don't know if you caught that.
Yeah, but he got it right
eventually, I think.
Well, he tried it a few times.
Yeah, he tried.
I should have given him the phonetic pronunciation.
I like listening to it, though.
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Now that Bob's gone,
that song was bullshit.
Yeah, thank you.
Finally,
some truth out of you,
Bruce.
Seriously,
that's the second time he's
fucked with me. He's only been on this show, what, nine times?
The twice he's fucked with me.
I get it, though, but...
If he fucks with me again,
I'll be shouting out Ridley Funeral Home
when I talk about him.
They're at Ridley FH.
See you all tomorrow, and my special guest is
Royal Wood. And I've kissed you in places I better not name
And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour
But I like it much better going down on you
Yeah, you know that's true
Because everything is coming up
Rosy and green
Yeah, the wind is cold
But the smell of snow
Warms us today