Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST27: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1476

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

In this 27th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out bird jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral ...Home, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada, The Yes, We Are Open podcast from Moneris, The Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball Team and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They are leaving the ice. They're gonna go. The Soviets are leaving. They're going home. They're going home. Yeah, they're going home. Can you imagine? Just, I'm gonna think about it some. F-O-T-M's, do you know what time it is? It's... Toast time! Toast! Featuring Stu Stone, Cam Gordon, and Toronto Mike. That's toast. Mmm, yeah, just toast. What up, Mike? Toronto!
Starting point is 00:00:48 VK on the beat, uh, check, uh. I'm in Toronto where you wanna get the city love. I'm from Toronto where you wanna get the city love. I'm in Toronto like we wanna get the city love. My city love me back for my city love. Welcome to episode 1476 of Toronto Mike. Welcome to episode 1476 of Toronto Mike. Welcome to episode 1476 of Toronto Mike.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Welcome to episode 1476 of Toronto Mike. Welcome to episode 1476 of Toronto Mike'd! Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, a fiercely independent craft brewery who believes in supporting communities, good times and brewing amazing beer. Order online for free local home delivery in the GTA. Palma Pasta. Enjoy the taste of fresh, homemade Italian pasta and entrees from Palma Pasta in Mississauga and Oakville. The Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team. The best baseball in the city, outside the dome. I'll see you on May 12 at 2 p.m. at Christie Pitts. RecycleMyElectronics.ca, committing to our planet's future, means properly recycling
Starting point is 00:01:53 our electronics of the past. The Advantage'd Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada, valuable perspective for Canadian investors who want to remain knowledgeable, informed informed and focused on long-term success. Season 6 of Yes We Are Open, an award-winning Meneris podcast hosted by FOTML Grego and Ridley Funeral Home, pillars of the community since 1921. Today, returning for the 27th toast is Bob Willett and Rob Proust. Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 00:02:29 Welcome back, Rob and Bob. Nice to see you. How are you, sir? How are you? You look like you've been enjoying retirement. Like every time I check in on you on socials, it looks like, oh, Bob is living the best life. I'm jealous.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Well, I don't know if you know this, notice, but I don't use, I don't use social media for anything personal negative, except for the Toronto Maybeliefs. Only good. It's the only thing that I will. Other than that, yeah, I will always try to put the best foot forward. And that's the way I like to use social media. Other people don't.
Starting point is 00:02:58 So it looks like you're living the best life, but you're miserable. No, I'm not miserable. But if I'm going to be honest, I want not to get too deep. This is a existential crisis a little bit, you know, 25 years of doing the same thing and realizing that might be it. It's a, there's something that we're here for. I appreciate it. We're here. I look forward to this. I look forward to this. And if you want to talk about it on the air, of course, cause no private conversations allowed, but if you want to talk about it, this is a good place to do it because I think
Starting point is 00:03:23 a lot of people listening can relate. Sure. Of course. Like you're in your forties and suddenly this, the only industry you've ever worked in full time or whatever is sort of decided that there's sun setting and there's no room for you. I mean, I haven't, I've applied to three jobs. I'll be completely honest. I've applied to three jobs all on air and I haven't heard a thing. So, you know, this lovely voice we were talking about earlier, it is a great voice. It's a, you know, you know, I haven't decided that I want to go back and do management again, do programming. I would do music programming, but right now, or as it stands, I would much rather go back to
Starting point is 00:03:59 being on air. But we'll see. Who knows, man? Like it's a, I like, yes, I'm happy. I get to spend more time with my kids. I get to, uh, just graduated. Yeah, I just, I'm doing, I just did a finished conservatory level two at second city. Congratulations. Thank you very much. My show was last night going to conservatory three, uh, conservatory
Starting point is 00:04:19 three tomorrow, next Wednesday. And, uh, been talking to the school already about possibly joining them as a teacher at some point once I finished, which will be in the end of the year. So I'm really enjoying that and trying to figure out how I can fit more performance. I've got a, I've got a voice agent. I'm trying to get some voice work and yeah, but yeah, up to, for me to say I'm a hundred percent happy. No, I'm not, not, not at all. I, I, it feels weird to think that something that I have loved and I'm the guy who's
Starting point is 00:04:46 always defending this industry. As you guys know, I'm the guy who's always like, I'm going to trumpet this industry. And I don't know what's left to trumpet. And I see you at like these, uh, what do you call it again? Uh, bondspeals. Oh, I went, no, what am I saying? I went to a curling, but is that kind of, called a bond? It was, no, that was the bond. Spell means a curling tournament, but this was a professional one. This was like the masters.
Starting point is 00:05:11 So that's not like, am I using that term inappropriately? Like that word was like a I'm Googling it. I don't think you use bond. Spell. I don't know my curling, but I know what, like people like a different, I know we're going to talk about professionals. These are professionals. So is that not a bond?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Spell? No, I mean, I guess, I don't know. A match or tournament between curling clubs. And it's German. I guess it would be then. Sure. Spiel means play in German. So it's Bon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Okay. Well, I see you at these, this big event. What is that event called? That was the Masters. That's part of the Pinties. I think, or is it? I can't remember the Coyote. I don't know. It's all Western sponsors. Look at the picture of the Bon Spiel.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Yeah. It's the, it's the, I don't know, you got me off guard here. Rob, do you follow Bob on social? Like he was having a great time at this Bonchebiel. No, I didn't see the Bonchebiel, but I saw the improv stuff happening. I just like saying Bonchebiel. Yes you do. But there's a picture, it says,
Starting point is 00:05:56 "'Until the 20th century, most Bonchebiels were held outdoors on a frozen freshwater lock. Remind,' I just had a flashback when I was a little kid, my dad used to take me curling on weekends. Oh my God. Like with his friends. The tour is called the Grand Slam of Curling and that was the players championship that I was at. Do you know the infamous day that Dave Hodge flipped the pen, his last day he ever worked at a hockey night in Canada, that was frustration because earlier in the day there was a briar event and he was watching this briar event with a big curling fanatic Bob Cole.
Starting point is 00:06:31 So Bob Cole, Dave Hodge watching this curling event and CBC had to leave it early for something or other. And then when Dave Hodge flips the pen, it's because CBC was leaving an overtime game for news, I guess, the national or something like that. And they were tied together. So I always remember Bob Cole being a part of the whole pen flip experience. And I'm hoping you gentlemen will grab a beer. Yes. Grab a Great Lakes. You don't have to tell me.
Starting point is 00:06:55 You got one in your hands? Okay. So we're gonna listen to a little clip here and then we're gonna crack a beer and we're gonna just breathe. And I don't even know what your contribution will be Rob, but I'm curious. I know Bob will have words to say about this but we lost a
Starting point is 00:07:07 good one today we lost my all-time favorite hockey play-by-play voice today at the age of 90 let's listen to this Gilmore waiting, waiting around the net, waiting, he's up! Yes! Gilmore! Solo job! And he's won it in a second overtime period! How about that? Oh my, oh my, oh my, what a night tonight for the Teromeys. Everything is happening, gentlemen. Let's crack one, count of three.
Starting point is 00:07:57 We're going to do this one for Bob Cole. Three, two, one. Cheers. All right, cheers. I was, I, one. Cheers. All right, cheers. I was, I learned the news actually Elvis broke it to me. And then I saw that I just, I just don't know now. Yeah. So Bob Cole, 90 years old.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I loved that voice. Even at the end when a lot of people on Twitter were like, Oh, this guy's naming the wrong player and he's messing up. I'm like, I would listen to Bob Cole mess up, you know, three times a minute. How long was he on the air? What was the, when did he finally? Not long ago, right? Like five years, probably 85 years still doing it.
Starting point is 00:08:29 The same thing happened with foster, right? Foster Hewitt was on the air long after he should have been, and he had spotters and stuff. Apparently I've been told, I don't know. I don't really remember. Scott Moore made the call cause he came over and we talked about it. I'm like, how can you do this? He made the call and then it was just before he left. I'm going to say something like 2018, when something like that. But yeah, I just wanted to pay our pay my respect to Bob Cole. And I love that man's voice. I love the timber of his voice, his sense
Starting point is 00:08:54 of the moment. Everything is happening. Oh baby, nobody, there was nobody better for me. Uh, if I'm watching a big leaves game like I did last night, there's no one I'd rather hear than Harry Neil and Bob Cole Calling that game when I was a kid my dad. My dad always said that Harry Neil hated the Leafs He is like as the color guy. He's like he's always against them. He's he's from Buffalo, you know, and But yeah, Bob Cole, I mean Saturday nights, that's what it was was was Bob Cole and then during the week it was Joe Bowen on TV Right, like that's what you would get.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Holy Mackinac, Joe Bowen, by the way, there is a speaking of Great Lakes, there's a Great Lakes a logger for Joe Bowen that was launched last week. And I was hanging out with Joe Bowen. I saw you that. I thought you were running out on a brew puff. And Bob yesterday Leafs lost a pretty good game.
Starting point is 00:09:39 To be honest, we lost though. And here, I'm sorry, Joe Bowen was blaming the fans. He went in on it. He went in on it. Isn't that nuts though? Isn't that Joe Bowen was blaming the he went he went he went in on that nuts he was saying he said the Toronto fans were reactive but you need to be proactive because the players will feed off you I he was disappointed in the fans not the first person to be disappointed in Toronto fans I think it's ridiculous to even put a little blame on Toronto fans because the team lost. Like I think that's insane. I don't, am I alone here? No, you're, I,
Starting point is 00:10:11 you're alone in this room. I don't know about Rob, but for me, I think you're alone because why is a home ice advantage so important then? Why did it last? You get, uh, you get last change. There's a few, you think the atmosphere has nothing to do with it. You're, you're sleeping in your homes. Like it's a whole bunch of things. The vibes are exciting with the crowd. Well, this is what I'm at. This is what I'm at. He hasn't answered my question. But yeah, but this whole idea, this is an underperforming
Starting point is 00:10:33 playoff team, right, is one one playoff round since 2004. Like that's pretty underperforming. And they haven't been doing well at home lately. They don't score more than two goals a game. Like I feel like the crowd was ready when those hits were flying the crowd was into it Like when we tied it up the crowd was nuts like the crowd was feeding off the players on the ice I don't think it should be the other way around where the players Can't get into it because the crowd is quiet like it to me think these are professionals
Starting point is 00:10:57 I don't think he's saying they lost because I don't see that anywhere in that tweet what I see What I see what I read was like Fucking cheer for them cheer for your team. You're there. You put you spent a minimum of $350 a ticket That's what the purples cost $350. I checked yesterday They were going like the purples were going for 350 you're gonna spend that kind of money and you're gonna sit on your hands Cheer for the goddamn team Bob Bob wants a job with with MC, I think. I'm gonna read it just quickly here before we move on. Bob wants a job. Bob will sell like programs or whatever. Oh, that'd be fun, actually.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Yeah, I think it'd be fun too. Joe Bowen wrote this yesterday night, okay? He wrote, the idea of going to any sporting event to support the home team is to be proactive. That's in all caps, by the way, give the team energy where, when they need it, not sitting down, waiting to be reactive. The players can't say it, but I will. Tonight's crowd was quotes, very disappointing. That reads a bit to me like a Trump tweet. I'm sorry. You know, I, uh, I would say that in the city, the lower bowl goes to the, like the corporate people, the very wealthy and they'd like to do a lot of, uh, they go into the private, uh, club and they do a lot of deal closing. I don't know. They're closing
Starting point is 00:12:16 fucking deals and they're networking and stuff. So the real crowds are higher up, right? Like in the upper bowls, but, uh, I think in the cheap seats, yeah. So all I'll say, I watched the game. I watched every minute of it. And there was a series of hits, like the leaves through a bunch of big body checks and the crowd was going fucking nuts. And then when we did tie it up just before that, um, hit on, when, when Marsha took out Austin Matthews and there was no penalty called. And then, uh, anyways, they went back and they, they took the lead again, uh, Boston. But when we tied it up, I think it too that crowd was loud. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I feel like joe's got backwards. Am I maybe I'm out to lunch here. Maybe I gotta go to the live stream and get a little a little little back up here. But I think johanna, the calves, the you have the right to boo with them as well. So well, Canada, Kevin's really like the voice of reason in all of this. So if that's what Canada canvass saying, I appreciate it. So gentlemen, I actually pulled a lot of clips, but I want to share a couple of things and then I want to check in with Rob Bruce and find out how he's doing. But I want to tell you guys, since you were last here, Biff naked drop by
Starting point is 00:13:17 or any Biff naked fans in the room. She's been on. She's been on the Bob basement, whatever it's called. Listen. Whatever it's called. After Loretta Swift. No, no, no. I'm still reeling. Okay, she's been on Bob's basement. She's highly featured in the Mr. Dress Up documentary. Actually, she's.
Starting point is 00:13:33 That's right, she is. I forgot about that. I enjoyed that. My kids are loving that documentary. They watch it over and over again. Really? Yeah, it's crazy. It's a great documentary and Biff Naked is a great person
Starting point is 00:13:41 and she was here. And we'll talk about this more on FOTMcast. Rob, did you listen to FOTMcast? I did. What did you think? I enjoyed it. Is it too inside or is it? Well it's hard to be too inside when you're inside. Do you know what I mean? And if you're outside we don't need you to listen right? Like Bob, that's not for the Bob right? Like Bob's not inside enough for that episode. Am I right? I haven't I haven't listened to it. You'll enjoy it. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:05 What's it about? No, it's fun because it feels like part of a family. It's like a family thing. It's a cast you said? What was it like? It's a, remember we talked about this last time. It's a podcast about the podcast. So it's very meta.
Starting point is 00:14:14 It's a, it's a. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes. The first quarter of Toronto mic stuff is all kind of broken down by Tyler Campbell and Kim Gordon and I. Okay. So anyway, we're here. I okay so anyway we're here I'm sitting with Biff and I'm telling I'm sharing with Biff the first Biff Naked song I ever heard and I heard it on the station that would be a few years later would employ the great Bob Willett okay this is 102.1 CF and why they were
Starting point is 00:14:36 calling it 102.1 the edge this here is the first Biff Naked song I ever heard you ready? We'll give it a moment here I fucking loved it. Alright, so let me get a lot of biff and it's great. It's Daddy's Getting Married is the name of this song. It's biographical and she's talking's great. It's daddy's getting married is the name of this song and she's you know, biographical and she's talking about her dad getting married and stuff. So I'm listening to it with Biff and I'm listening to it and I don't know why it took me so long to realize. So this song
Starting point is 00:15:33 comes out in ninety four and I loved it and I still dig it. But did this song remind you of anything? Two things. Well, you go, you go. No, no, no, it doesn't remind me of anything. Anything. It sounds like once it gets quiet, it reminds me of, um, uh, Mazie Mazie star. Yeah. Um, and then a little, they have the Mazie star, but while it's loud at the beginning, another Canadian band, see spot run weightless. Really kicked out once as forgotten can come. It's identical to that. Okay. So that you just heard that and I can bring it back to you. But here's the song
Starting point is 00:16:08 that came out one year earlier. Okay. A bigger song than those. Okay. You ready? Here it comes, Rob. Here it comes, Rob. Also, it's very similar. It's an era, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet, loud, loud, loud. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And I know Bob, Bob, I know you were pumping this jam, right? I have a great, I have a little story about this song. It was the night that I had my nineteen seventy five Buick century and I drove down to see the rolling stones at Rich Stadium and it was the it was a hot, hot, hot August day and I had filled my tires up just make sure everything was fine. I really realizing that it was the original rubber on the so I had filled my tires up just to make sure everything was fine. Not really realizing that it was the original rubber on the, uh, so I had three flat tires in one night and the way to Buffalo on. No. So one, so after the show, one at, uh, at the,
Starting point is 00:17:14 at the border changed it myself one along like 40 on the road from 40 or you can QEW and then I had to get somebody, I called like a tow truck to come bring me a tire and then I Thankfully I was an early adopter to a cell phone and then the third so the third one this is where today we're in the car Of course, I don't have a proper stereo in there I literally have like a boom box and I have a mixtape on and I'm playing it and this comes on it's like That's a big volume increase there. Yep, and literally as Today is the greatest, my third flat tire.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So this is from, yeah, Siamese Dream and a great big fucking album. We all had it, Smashing Pumpkins. So now that you've heard it again, I'm just gonna go back and play just again Daddy's Getting Married, okay? So I don't know why it hit me, I almost said it out loud. I didn't want to embarrass Biff, but not that she'd deny it, but... It's the same fun song? It, yeah, it's identical there. It's inspiration, yes.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And this comes out one year later. One year later. Perfect. Yeah, yeah. It's a thing. Hold on. Same bass notes too, right? We should sync these up.
Starting point is 00:18:18 You should try Waitlist too, like Bunches C-Spar Run. That's what I hear. Wait, hold on. Here we go, right? Today is the greatest day I've ever known. Can't wait for tomorrow. This is the power of music. Music feeds off of itself, and it becomes a self-perpetuating
Starting point is 00:18:39 loop of inspiration. And everybody hears everybody else. And Beethoven, you know, ripped off Mozart. But I know, but it just shocked me, because I'm a big fan of that song. And it just shocked me. And it, ripped off Mozart. And Mozart ripped off Haydn. But it just shocked me because I'm a big fan of that song. And it just shocked me. And it just hit you now.
Starting point is 00:18:48 But it's good. It just hit me now. It's good. And I loved, I heard how many times, I love Today by Smash It Pumpkin so much. I played it so often. And I love that song. And then the Biff song comes out like a year later.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And I'm like, I love this song. Oh, this is a hot chick from Canada. That's amazing. But I never really connected to the fact that it's the same fucking song. Like it's just the same song. I don't know, it's the same song and I love it. Okay, how are you doing Rob Bruce?
Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm doing good. There's power in repetition. That's the thing with music. Like I'm so excited when I hear a melody and I'm like, this reminds me of something else. My wife laughs at me all the time because I'm always listening to a song and I'll hear a snippet of a melody and go,
Starting point is 00:19:21 what the hell is that? And then I'll realize it's just- This happens to me too. Cause I think I mentioned earlier, we did an episode on flower jams. Did we? Us three. Yeah. You don't remember?
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah. I know. It was a great moment in our lives. Never forget Brendan flowers. That's right. What an asshole. Get the fuck out of my basement. Get her, get a haircut and get a real job.
Starting point is 00:19:39 You got a haircut. That's right. And you look good. What I hear from Rob bruises, you look good here. Um, so we'll say, yeah, so I was playing Miley Cyrus' Flowers and there's a part of Flowers where every single time I hear it, I hear early Wham. Oh yeah, you mentioned that before. Yeah, I have to play Flowers to hear it actually, but there's a Wham song I used to hear all the time in cassette that I hear every single fucking time here So we tell Rob and keep going what's new going on?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Oh, nothing's new. Yeah, nothing's new going on. You're good. Yeah, I'm good. I've been catching up I listen to your I was watching and listening to Ben Johnson when I was getting ready to drive up here a couple days ago Well, I have a clip before we talk about Ben. We love the Ben Yeah, and then I'd listen this morning to what's his I'll keep wanting to call him common, but it's classified classified classified I loved as well and his his song, his people song, I can't wait for this new album to come out. That was like tomorrow. Maybe, maybe tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow. Yeah. But he, I thought he was super cool. I didn't really know him at all, honestly, but I love his East coast accent.
Starting point is 00:20:35 He sounds like some friends of mine who live out in Halifax. Yeah. Care. And you hear all those things, but I loved him as well and his energy. And so my oldest loved it too. And he never comments on, I don't think he listens to very many Toronto mic episodes, but I got a whole spiel from him. I'm not a bond spiel, but a spiel, a spiel from him about how much he loved classified on Toronto. My very cool.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I'd like to do some music with them. Like I need more collaborations. That's what I'm looking for. In Enfield, Nova Scotia. I could hook you up. I have a friend who lives in Halifax. I've wanted to go out and do some gigs in Halifax anyway. So maybe I can hang out.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So before I play this clip that'll introduce Ben. It's very short Bob what did you think of the The episode with classified I know I did I listened to a little bit of on the way here. I I find it charming that he was here with his wife and and it was interesting for people in the rooms because the white and then his Manager Wow who came with him from Nova Scotia Scotia and then sitting on this open mic was the guy who made it happen. The label guy. Wow. And what was the label guy? Matthew something. What label? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Is it an indie label? Like, or is he signed like who, it wasn't universal. Sony somebody based in, no, it wasn't a big name, but, uh, somebody based in Toronto works with a label that's, uh, it was a great conversation though. I found it interesting that there's still budget to bring somebody in. I thought that was excellent to hear that he's going to do television. 24 hours or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:55 He's in for 36 hours or something and he was doing television. Z103, yeah, and good for him. You know, better that is I'm the first stop. You go to the airport on your way to the downtown stuff., that's what we, that's what Z103. That's what we used to do when I worked for Ebonave radio. It was like, you just gotta go to the airport to come to us. Just get off at Dundas and come see us. Same, same, same. Did you have, I should ask you on or off Mike,
Starting point is 00:22:14 but did you ever get it hooked up with honeymoon suite yet? Is it, is there things still working on that? And that was Eric Alper because I'm insisting that somebody in the band, one of the main guys has to be in person. So we're trying to do it for like May 2, 4, because apparently they're in town. I can talk to, I can send them an email as well because I know. Do your thing, man. What are you doing? Just fucking do it. I know Dave, the drummer is like, you can be a part of the episode by the way, if you wanted. I could make a special appearance. I could be the dude to walk in.
Starting point is 00:22:38 You were in the band. Yeah, I sure was. But not at this point. Um, but yeah, I hope it happens because I think you'd have a good time with them. Okay, quick word about Ben. Again, we are kicking out, we haven't even said it yet, we're kicking out bird jams. These are bird jams. We'll talk more about the rules and everything in a minute here. But this is the little clip because I heard this episode yesterday.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I've grown a futuristic tomato by fertilizing it with anabolic steroids. The kind that help our Olympic athletes reach new peaks of excellence? The very same. What did you think of Ben Johnson on Toronto Mic'd? First of all, I felt for Mary Hornsby for being late. I completely understood her situation as I was driving in today. I thought what I heard of it, I heard a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I thought it was great. I had never heard Ben's version that people slipped stuff into his drinks. I had never heard Ben's version that people slipped stuff into his drinks. I had never heard that. I love that. Yeah, that's true, man. Yeah. And then I'd love that he was like, yeah, I was doing it, but I didn't. I didn't get far enough. I wanted to ask you, did he say everybody was yes? Did he say that? He went beyond that because I brought up actually he's okay. So yesterday we recorded Donovan Bailey's part right and of course I'm he did the fastest man in the world ever in
Starting point is 00:23:48 here. Well the joke I've been using is by my third time in the podcast is that this will be the only week where Donovan is not the fastest guy in the base, like unless you've seen bolts walk and that's right and by that's really difficult to do, but yeah, oh yeah, that clip, the tomato tomaco episode. No, it's not from the time. I'm just telling Andy's asking about that Simpson's clip. That's the episode where Homer's doesn't drink for 30 days. So Homer's going to the Duff brewery and then he gets caught with a DUI and then
Starting point is 00:24:14 he Marge asks him to not drink for 30 days. And, and you know, the rain drops keep falling on my head. That doesn't mean my eyes was turning red. Great episode. Actually wonderful episode of the episode of the Simpsons. So anyway, uh, I asked Ben about Donovan and Ben all but said Donovan was dirty too. Like, so he says nobody's running clean. Right? This is what Ben says. That's what I, that's kind of what I wanted to know is like, cause the whole thing with Carl back in the day was that he was just as juiced as they were all juiced. And he just happened to be the one to get caught. Right. And that was the, that was the issue. I just, I didn't, I didn't make it to that far to hear if he said that somebody screwed up. But what did you think, Rob? I thought he was very
Starting point is 00:24:50 charming. I enjoyed the whole thing. I like watching. It was fun to watch. I, I, cause I was like, like doing stuff around the house, but I kept listening and then started tuning back in. But I thought he was just put that on YouTube. So like if anyone listening wants to see Ben and I chatting, I actually just put that on YouTube today. But the best, when you're asking him about the race and you're like, you know, how did it feel like, like, you know, what was like, he's like, I didn't know I was that fast. He's just running. He just does his thing, right? He doesn't know he's sneaky. First of all, I found him sneaky, funny. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I find him, like, I guess, because I haven't really heard from Ben since the eighties, early nineties, but I found him surprisingly well spoken and introspective. And I honestly didn't realize like we'd be able to do like 90 minutes like that. And he, it just, I just didn't know Ben was such a great conversation. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And I mean, honestly, you draw it out of him as well because you give him the room to speak his mind. And with, with what's her name? Mary was with her? Mary Ornsby. Yeah, It was just a good match. And I wanted to say that, uh, he also had that, that run of like really bad commercials with, with, with, with, with, with Frank D'Angelo and so, and so he,
Starting point is 00:25:57 he was a bit of a fool and he ran against a horse and all that stuff. And so for him to be here and get actually get to talk and not be a sideshow was really great. I wanted to say because you were talking about Ben Ben Johnson sightings in the wild. My Ben Johnson sighting was with Fred Patterson. Do you remember that one season that the Edmonton Oilers had a an A H L affiliate here in Toronto at the RICO Center? No, the road run. I do remember this. Yes, the home opener Fred Patterson and I went and Ben Johnson was there and he ran by and Fred yelled at him. You are cheetah and that
Starting point is 00:26:29 was it because I was on humble and Fred this morning and I mentioned that Ben was over here on my Fred won't remember that, but I remember that, but he said he remembered Ben came in the studio in the mid nineties or something to promote. He was going to race a horse. Yeah. Wow. So that was the kind of that was when yeah, but I remember seeing him, that was at the Rico Center before, was like before they brought the Marlies in.
Starting point is 00:26:50 That was my Ben Johnson in the wild. But yeah, it's just really cool. Like I feel like it's, for you to get people like him on, it's just a really cool thing for your archive of your show and the ability that you have to bring people on. It's sort of special because he lives on, like that episode episode. I don't know. He'll ever do an interview like that. Like, yeah, here's what I, cause I'm curious, cause Mary's got the book that just dropped. And so Mary's doing a lot of press. Like she's talking to everybody. She'll bring it Ben
Starting point is 00:27:15 everywhere. No, no. Here's the key. The thing I noticed. Yeah. Cause I'm very interested. So Peter Mansbridge has Mary arms beyond. Okay. FOTM Peter Mansbridge, Richard Dice has Mary arms beyond. Okay. FOTM, Peter Mansbridge, Richard Dish has Mary arms beyond. Uh, I don't know who else is out there, Mary, but Mary's doing lots of things to promote her book. I haven't found anything yet with Ben. Like he's talked to him. He's talked in print to print guys like Bruce Arthur or Steve Simmons. Like I think he's talked to these guys. I have yet to hear Ben do any audio, anything to promote this book. It's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Is that weird? Well, I think that's a testament to you. Yeah. Yep. And I don't have too much credit only because I actually thought it was just Mary visiting and then she just, yeah. Really? But why didn't, why, why, why wasn't he with Mansbridge?
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah. Like why was he with you and not Mansbridge? I know you feel like it's amazing. I'm happy for you. You feel it. I don't want him to show up on any other podcast. No, no, exactly. I'm just like, let me have the exclusive here.
Starting point is 00:28:08 But you have a safer space. It feels like a safer space for people. I feel like to come in here. Well, Mary made that call because Mary is the gatekeeper, right? So Mary is the one, and Ben trusts Mary. So if Mary says to Ben, okay, we're gonna talk to Peter Mansbridge or whatever,
Starting point is 00:28:20 he will do it. I mean, he was early. So I don't, I think he came from East York. But you know what's good about- Was he in my hood? Yeah, he was early. So I don't think right from East York. But you know, what's good. Yeah. He lives in East York right now. And he was really early. Like I'm going to say half, I don't know. He was pretty early and Mary was late. So we had a little kind of awkward small talk down here. You're good because you, you present a safe space, but you dig in though. You don't, you don't shy away from getting more honest talk than people might
Starting point is 00:28:43 expect. I wasn't going to chat with Ben unless I could play the cheetah ad. I want to talk about. Well, you play, you do, you do a really good job, not, not to, you know, pump your tires too much, but you do, you do a really good Greg, but you, you do a really good job of balancing the fan boy thing and also not you, you are not afraid to ask the questions that some journalists wouldn't and you ask it in a way though that isn't inflammatory. Yes. And I think that's, that's one of your best skills when journalists want to just get the,
Starting point is 00:29:13 get the scoop. They only want to scoop their accusatory. They're, they're inflammatory. Yes. And you're not, you never are. I love it when you guys pump my tires. Why are we doing this? You know what?
Starting point is 00:29:23 I don't need for FOTM cast. Can we start a new show called? We love Mike. This guys pump my tires. Yeah, why are we doing this? You know what? I don't need for FOTM cast anymore. Can we start a new show called We Love Mike? This is FOTM. OK, let's move on here. I know that your nephew is an NHL player. Yes. Rob Pruse. Yeah, obviously I'm talking to him. He's done. His season is over.
Starting point is 00:29:36 His season's over. They didn't make the playoff. So did you know that the Phoenix Coyotes are moving? Did you know this, Rob Pruse? No, I didn't know that. OK, so. You probably didn't even know they were there. Is there a team in Phoenix called the Coyotes?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Did you know that Maple Leafs have two players from Phoenix? Nope. Didn't know that either. I started watching the Leafs only because my nephew's team is out now. And I'm like, I'm rooting for the, I always want to root for the Leafs. Well, now I said a big, they both scored goals so far in these three games that they have here.
Starting point is 00:30:00 But the Leafs are still in, like they're not ruled out. It's two to one. Okay, good. It's the best of seven. What's a? What's a must-win game every game? Like okay, well must win means that if you lose you go home, yeah, so we haven't hit there yet Okay, one we do Bob's right though. We don't want to go back to Boston down three to one. Okay, let's win on Saturday night I think the Leafs can do it here But okay, so there's gonna be a Utah NHL team and there's a few names that are tossing around a venom
Starting point is 00:30:25 fury Blizzard outlaws mammoth and yetis like these are names that are being tossed around the Utah yetis Okay, but I think they're missing an obvious. Okay, you want to know what I think this team should be called you guys ready? You wanna dance with me, Rob? Not right now. It's not a no. That's right. So long. So long.
Starting point is 00:30:56 This better be a good bit. We don't do bits on this show, Bob. Yeah, you do. Okay, do you guys know this song? Nope, nope. Really? Okay, when I was listening to Top 40 Radio, and I'm going to say, I don't know when this was, late 80s, early 90s, whatever, this song was pretty high rotation, but this is Utah Saints. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So, this is the song that I'm going to be singing. This is the song that I'm going to be singing. This is the song that I'm going to be singing. This is the song that I'm going to be singing. This is the song that I'm going to be singing. This is the song that I'm going to be singing. This is the song that I'm going to be singing. This is the song that I'm going to be singing. This is the song that I'm going to be singing. This is the song that I'm going to be singing. This is the song that I'm listening to Top 40 Radio, and I'm gonna say, I don't know when this was, late 80s, early 90s, whatever, this song was pretty high rotation, but this is Utah Saints.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Oh, I remember the name. Yeah, I remember the name. Do you want to call them the Utah Saints? Yes! Well, why not? It'll go with the Mormon thing. Yeah, the Utah Mormons. But I want to talk, so there's two reasons, yes, this should be the Utah Saints, and here's the big jam from Utah Saints, but I want to ask Rob about the sample.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Do you know the sample? Do you know that sample, Rob? No. Do you know, Bob? It sounds like Madonna's voice with Vogue. Good guess. Well, I mean, the female voice sounds like Madonna, right? We can't wait, and you're just in reach When you're asleep, escape me, you're like my yo-yo
Starting point is 00:32:34 That glowed in the dark, what made it special? Made it dangerous, so I bury it and forget. Cloud busting. Yes. I know the song, but I didn't realize that was in Utah. How well do you know this song? I mean, well, I knew it well in 1986 or 85. I'm just waiting for her to do the part here.
Starting point is 00:33:02 It's coming up here. Hold on. There, Something Good writes this part. This part right here is sampled throughout Something Good by Utah Saints. This is apparently the only song, here I have it written down because I wanted to get this fun fact exactly correct here before we get to Bird Jams. This is the only song Kate Bush has allowed of hers to be sampled. It was for Utah Saints. So Utah Saints have a sample of Kate Bush that she has a properly blessed. Madonna had that once with ABBA too. ABBA would never release any samples and they let her use gimme gimme man after midnight on one song Oh from a couple like yeah, yeah, like this in her I think the William Orbit days
Starting point is 00:33:52 I think no, it was no early was in the last ten years or so. Oh, yeah was Sarah fairly recent It's kind of cool. You want a mind blow this was revealed on toast. So I gotta say no, this is toast This was revealed on Pandemic Friday with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. Former toast hosts. Right. According to Ivor Hamilton. So this is from Ivor Hamilton. OK, yeah, we all know Ivor Hamilton. If you listen to Toronto Mike, do you know Ivor Hamilton?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Still upset the Pixies weren't playing on CFY in 1989. Did you hear this one, Bob? No, I did not hear this one. As discussed with Scott Turner last week. So the Utah Saints were in Toronto the night that Jays won the 1992 World Series. And they started recording the crowd noise as Torontonians spilled out into the streets to
Starting point is 00:34:35 celebrate our first World Series victory. Those crowd noises were recorded and made it into future Utah Saints recordings. So there are Torontonians sampled on Utah Saints as we celebrated the 1992 World Series. Rob Pruse, did you give a shit about the 1992 World Series? I was aware of it and I think I watched it because it was cool. It was just like supporting Toronto. You're not sure though?
Starting point is 00:35:02 No, I did. I mean, it was on the TV, but I wasn't a huge baseball fan. Did you see Mike Timlin throw that ball to Joe Carter? No. I mean, if he threw it to him, then sure. But I don't know the names. I heard the name Joe Carter before though. Joe Carter also mentioned in the Ben Johnson because apparently they were at the,
Starting point is 00:35:18 what's the bar at Young and Eglinton? Berlin. Berlin. That was it. That's right, the night that he did the walkout. So this is just to introduce the topic. I want to talk to you guys. Bob, we'll start with you. Was it easy to come up with your three bird jams? Tell us. Well, yeah, I
Starting point is 00:35:35 mean, it was easy because pretty pretty common motif in music. I would say sort of I want it to do a few things that will piss you off Mike. So there's that I'm ready and you know, but yeah, like I was gonna pick a partridge family song. There you go. Oh, that would have been. I know I my first choice when we get to it. I as soon as we said, bird jams, it went right. I was like, I have to do this one. It was the immediate thing that and I was and I hoped that nobody else thought of it. So Bob, no one picked any of your three, all yours, but Rob, I had one of your And I was, and I hoped that nobody else thought of it. So Bob, no one picked any of your three.
Starting point is 00:36:05 They were all yours, but Rob, I had one of your three. Did you? But I abandoned it for you. Thank you. That's how much I care about you. I can guess the one, I can guess. Actually no, I can't. I kept some of my mind blows.
Starting point is 00:36:15 So I'm gonna have mind blows on mind blows. Cause this will be the, this is like the 27th toast. And how many of you guys done? Do you have any idea? More than half. More than half. This is the first time I think Rob truly embraced the mind blow. Oh nice. I got a couple of cool You kicked it up several notches on the mind below. You were always lagging in the mind blows. I think you
Starting point is 00:36:36 Well kicked it up. Okay. Good. Thank you. We'll see Did you know I'm trying to read this fun fact from J Ho before we get into the bird jam He says did you know that Rick Astley ripped off Madonna's holiday with his Never Gonna Give You Up? Uh, no. Ripped off as in, like, legally ripped off or as in it just sounds like? J-Ho, get back to us. By the way, Canada Kev says Mike wins so we can shut this down. I don't think we have winners or losers.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Everyone's a winner, baby. Canada Kev says that Mike wins. We got a shout out, Stranger Things, that got Kate Bush some cash for her retirement fund. That song was a huge hit. Bob was even playing it in Kingston, right Bob? Correct. That's how big a deal that Stranger Things was. And Basement Dweller, it says great video for the Utah Saints and Andy recognized it as Kate Bush. Oh, that was a remix. Apparently I played of the Utah Saints. I was a weird remix too. It doesn't
Starting point is 00:37:33 even sound like the original. All right. Well, we all know the great original there. Okay. So yeah, I hang on before there's one more. Oh, it was a question. I'm looking at Jeremy too. He's it's not a fact about Madonna. Oh, he was asking. Oh, okay. I would say no. Can't soil his good name. Yeah. I also wanted to say that the ABBA song was Hung Up. Hung Up?
Starting point is 00:37:53 Yeah. That's right. That is from- Something on the dance floor. Who is- oh, it's Basement Dweller. I was like, what's that? I'd like to buy a vowel, please, Basement Dweller. You know, Basement Dweller, great addition to the live
Starting point is 00:38:02 stream. Yes. Love that guy. I recently met him at the Parkdale Library to give him a 10cc DVD that I got from David Coyne. 10cc DVD? Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Would you say it quickly? 10cc DVDs. Yeah, okay. So we're all going to kick out our bird jams. We're going to do it in a moment. We're drinking Great Lakes Beer. Thank you to Great Lakes Beer. They're hosting us for TMLX15.
Starting point is 00:38:23 That's June 27th from 6 to 9 p.m. at their Southern Etobicoke campus down the street from the Costco at Queen Elizabeth Boulevard. I think it's 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard. Just show up. People are always going, do I need to RSVP? Do I got to get a ticket? Just get your ass to 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard on June 27, 2024 from 6 to 9 p.m. Your first beer is on the house thanks to Great Lakes Brewery and you'll be fed with delicious palma pasta. So come hungry darling, right? Shout out to Palma Pasta, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Again we lost the great Robert Cecil Cole. I saw you mention on your blog about Mike Pinder from the Moody Blues as
Starting point is 00:39:06 well. Yeah, well the last founding member of that band. One of the most amazing keyboard players in rock and roll. Was he an influence of yours Robert? Well, directly and indirectly because he was one of the people who started using a keyword called the Mellotron which was an early 1960s kind of a tape loop keyboard and of course if you think of the song Knights in White Satin, it really features that string sound. And it was integral to the sound of the Moody Blues. And it became a hallmark of the, like that kind of psychedelic 60s pop kind of sound,
Starting point is 00:39:33 you know, but Mike was one of the forerunners in using that. And he spoke, like he did some of the cool spoken word stuff on Moody Blues albums as well. He was super cool. Do either of you guys know the name Andrew Davis? Yep. So does Bob know? No, not off the top of his head. I didn't know the name. Robert Bob. What did I call him again? Andrew Davis. He's a, he's a night,
Starting point is 00:39:54 you know, yes, sir. Andrew Davis. My apologies to the Davis family, but he just passed away at the age of 80 on April 20 and I've been like doing catch up and I'm going to talk to a couple of members of 80 on April 20. And I've been like doing catch up and I'm going to talk to a couple of members of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra. Did they work with him? Play under? Stay tuned. Oh, I mean he was, he was like, you know, a superstar Toronto Symphony conductor. But why, I thought like, why is it such a huge blind? Maybe I don't know anyone. Well, it's classical music. Classical music can be a blind spot. People talk about them like, uh, I don't know, like Mick Jagger just died or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Well, if you, if you, uh, like in the classical music world with the Toronto Symphony at that time from the, in the mid seventies through the eighties, like he did lots of recordings, like, like, um, definitive recordings of symphonies and premiering new music from Canadian composers and stuff. I'm just glad Bob also never heard of the guy. Like I don't feel so bad. I've been to the TSO. Oh yeah, yeah. And few, a bunch of times. And he's been in Europe for years conducting BBC Prom's concerts as well. And like, I guess
Starting point is 00:40:51 I always thought of him as a Canadian because I just knew his name with the Toronto Symphony, but he was British and then he was in Canada for years, but then back in England as well. In Chicago? Yeah, in Chicago, right. But like just amazing. Andrew Ward gave me a little, like I had a zoom this morning with Andrew Ward He gave me like the 101 on Andrew Davis. I'm catching up. I'm catching up here. Yeah Okay, and we're playing the song obviously because it's free bird. This would have been a great bird It's still playing you started it ten minutes ago. Yeah, I'm not even done telling you
Starting point is 00:41:16 So you guys got your history book on Toronto Maple Leafs baseball. You got that last we did Yeah, May 12 2 p.m Man, if you want to hang with Wendell Clark and I and a whole bunch of other cool cats so we're gonna be there man you're missing out it's free that's another thing no ticket you just show up at Christie pits may 12 at 2 p.m. cool be there that's the Toronto Maple Leafs home opener you guys got speakers from Maneras you're taking love it yeah yes yes yes speakers good have you been listening to season six of yes, we are open. Yes We're without without missing a beat. Yeah, because you know Al Grego
Starting point is 00:41:55 Once the student is now the teacher. He's everywhere. He was on that podcast. I listened to yesterday It was so good recorded in December you did you learn a lot about I did Al Grego I learned a lot about Al and his history and Monaris and like all that shit. Yeah You know, we went to Alberta So now we're getting stories from Calgary, Banff. Right, he's in Banff. Yeah. Yeah. So shout out to Al Grego. Listen to Yes, We Are Open, an award-winning podcast from Monaris, but also listen to the Advantage to Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada. Because Rob, you got to know what to do if all those romantic traffic royalty checks. That's right. That's right.
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Starting point is 00:42:40 RecycleMyElectronics.ca. That's where you go to find out where to drop off your old electronics, your old devices, your old cables, so those chemicals don't end up in our landfill. I wanted to pick Freebird by Leonard Skinner because I unironically love this song. We talked about this last time. It's going to take us home and I'm going to go right into Rob Pruce's first jam. Unless you have anything you want to say before. Are you going to play the first one and we'll just let it go and then I'll say something while it's going.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Okay. Don't worry, it's almost halfway done. I fucking love it! Why do I love it so much? It's still going. It's too short. Do you like fish? No.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Do you like the Grateful Dead? Not really. Sorry Canada Cav, shut it down. You would love it if you liked this, though. Yeah, well, that's what I mean. If you like this, that's all they do. Yeah. Dave Matthews band?
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. Yeah, jam band. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, there you go. Was he mixing yours in? Jacko, the broadcasting kookaburra, bids fair to become the most famous bird in the world. He will laugh at any time of the day or night. First, there is a preliminary chuckle, like a clumsy thrill. But instead of pulling on one note, Jacko ascends the scale, and the effect brings to
Starting point is 00:44:46 mind the small boy's unspoiled laugh. Just after the first glimmer of dawn, the Kookaburra peels forth his merry laughter a full hour before the smaller denizens of the forest awake. Kookaburra. You got it, brother. So this is just a prelude to my song. This is not the song. This is not the song.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I just wanted to... Did this hit the Billboard Hot 100? This was not charted. No, no, no. This was a b-side. This is not the song. I had this collection of bird recordings. Really?
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah, it's called Unaccompanied. Oh, listen. ...quite unexpectedly falls into a whimsical, queasy guffaw like that of an old man whose rusty vocal organs restrict his mouth." Restrict his mouth. So you would listen to this, I guess it was on vinyl? You'd listen to this album? No, I have this on Bandcamp.
Starting point is 00:45:35 It's called... Bandcamp? You're too old? What? Never too old to learn about birds. It's called Commercial Recordings of Unaccompanied Captive and wild birds from 1913 to 1936. So this was a recording. So the one you have is number two. Is that the real jam? Yeah, yeah, go for number two now. Okay, we're gonna roll into the real jam. This is like the pregame show. Wait a minute, Donald. The star always comes last.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Careful, careful, Donald. Remember your temper. Your old friend Goofy is here and he wants to sing. Ha ha ha ha. Kookaburra sits on an old gum tree. Merry, merry king of the bush is he. Ha ha ha. Kookaburra, ha ha ha. Kookaburra gay, your life must be.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Ah, yes. Not yet, Donald. Okay, I have something to say real quick. I did tell everyone that Rob Pruss has finally embraced the mind blows, but I think he's gone too far. Have I gone too far already? That's not the song either, right?
Starting point is 00:46:41 No, that is the song, actually. That's the song? That was it. Kukaburra, that's my song. But I thought your one unit labeled number three is your song. That's an actual song people know. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 So, Kookaburra, that was on an album that I had when I was like six years old. This is not a song though, can I play it again? Yeah, sure. Well, it's the Goofy section. Wait a minute, Donald. This is like, the star always comes last. I know, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:47:01 What is the song to you, Rob? Don't take it to melody or some kind of a... Listen to the melody. Wait, Goofy's kicking it off. Your old friend Goofy is here and he wants to sing. Here he comes. Pinto Golding. Kookaburra sits on an old gum tree. Merry, merry king of the bush is he.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Kookaburra, Kookaburra gay. Can I roll into three? No, not yet. So I've got to explain that. So this, I had this album when I was like six years old. It was called The Mouse Factory. It was like a short lived TV show in the early 70s from Disney and they would play like old Disney cartoon clips
Starting point is 00:47:37 and stuff, but I had an album called Mouse Factory that I like, I'm obsessed with this album to this day because it was like Mickey Mouse March and all these songs. But Goofy singing Cooaburra was like one of my Early like songs as soon as you said bird jams. My brain was like kookaburra It's like what I knew so I it's a famous old australian song. It was written in wait. I wrote it down. It was written in 19 34 or something right so this woman and it was premiered in the 30s with the Girl Guides sang it.
Starting point is 00:48:06 It was like this famous old Australian folk song, okay? So- You're getting heat on the live stream. I'm just giving you a heads up. Oh yeah, people are not loving this. I don't care. I'm not gonna read it yet. Yeah, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:48:15 So go talk about it. People are upset with you. So, but me in my memory, Goofy singing Kukuburra, it's a fucking bird song. So- So technically now, you're right. I guess I thought it was a spoken word and I was like no no that is technically a song yeah i'm gonna just quote basement dweller okay disappointing okay well i think that the mind blow takes it up takes it
Starting point is 00:48:36 up a notch so you can play them your jams are your jams yeah you're gonna save yourself with the i was gonna substitute it for like an elton john song or something i'm like fuck that i love so but you gotta be true to yourself you gotta be so this next hero of the day is a You gotta save yourself with the... I was gonna substitute it for like an Elton John song or something. I'm like, fuck that. I love Cookeburra. No, do this. And I love Goofy. So, but... You gotta be true to yourself. You gotta be. So this next one is...
Starting point is 00:48:51 Hero of the day. ...is a fun fact to associate with the song. Oh. I thought this was your jam. No. I know this story. So this is that nursery rhyme. This is Kookaburra. The flute riff is Kookaburra.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And they didn't clear it like they had to pay. Exactly. So in 2009, they got sued. In 2009, 28 years after the song was released. They came back and were like, Hey, wait a minute. Kookaburra was under copyright and nobody knew they assumed it was like public domain. Cause it was a kid song. So they got sued and this publishing company that actually said they own the rights.
Starting point is 00:49:37 They sing. Is that the song? It has the same song. And the flu is going to do. These are good mind blows. That's very, yeah. It's goofy. It's mean it's goofy. You totally redeemed yourself.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I don't care. Like when Marner had that great assist yesterday, that's what I yelled at the TV. He totally redeemed himself. So they got sued in 2009 for a song from 1982. Wait, what did Bob just say? You don't care. Don't get me started. Oh, that guy's missing.
Starting point is 00:50:00 That guy's on the back of a milk carton. He's the invisible man, but he actually played all right last night. He was gone the first two games. He's good. He's good. He's good. He's going to be gone. If he doesn't start to perform, they're going to trade all in Norris defense. You've ever heard of a Kukaburra before? Yeah, I've heard about it from the story about them. Man at work. So yeah, I do know about the Kukaburra. So they ruled,
Starting point is 00:50:23 they ruled against men at work and they said, you have to pay a share of the royalties, but only from 2002 onwards. So the hit was, you know, copyrights, their nickname. So anyways, Cookeburra, that's my, my story of Cookeburra and I'm sticking to it. I like it. Oh, I was just going to say when I heard the Disney characters, I thought you were going with disco duck. No. Oh, that's a good one. That's Rick Dees. Yeah. Disco duck is like, I thought that is a bird jam for sure. The last track related to this is sort of like a reason for me to want to play this song. I feel like it's in the family of Kookaburra. Shine a light on this. So we've done 20, you guys have done many, many episodes of Toast and sometimes Rob, you don't have any mind blows.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Most of the time you have no mind blows known I let the song speak for itself today literally for the first I got three mind blows tied to your jam today like that's amazing ready you ready for this yeah to me it sounds kookaburra ish and I don't know if it really is but I just want to play it anyways because I like it It seemed to be everywhere when I was young. 1981. This was 1981. My dad DJed weddings in 85 And you couldn't do a wedding without playing it. Yeah, but we called it the chicken dance It's called the chicken dance bird dance This version I'm playing is the is the German version because with my family we went to Germany in the Christmas of 1981 and My aunts and my cousins were like freaking out over this.
Starting point is 00:51:45 It was like on the top 10. This German version. So like I have these memories of New Year's Eve doing this and I feel like it's not really Kukaburra but it's in the family. It's in the Bird family. It's a bird song. It's a bird song. Bird dance. Bird dance. No we did it all time in grade school like you know I even knew how to I think I still know how to do it to be quite honest. I think everybody knows how to do it. Yeah. Can you do the Macarena? This is the one that of course I can I used to DJ weddings in the early 90s late 80s Yes, of course I can Is this the one where it speeds up and gets slower and faster?
Starting point is 00:52:13 Oh, this is just straight ahead straight ahead. This was like a German top 40 hit. It sure was 1981 Christmas 81 Yep, don't fuck with the Germans man. That's right. They're serious. I'm scared. Okay Very good Rob Bruce. So to be clear though, your jam is actually goofy Kukaburra. Yeah nursery rhyme. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. I love that your jams your jam No, don't try to impress the no the crowd don't try to don't play to basement. Weller and like be your own guy I'm opening up the inner child to all the people who want to stick with Goofy. But I will read a couple of notes quickly. Although, again, I told you guys about this interface thing where if I scroll up in someone
Starting point is 00:52:52 comments I get dragged down. It is something I've got to write down. It pulls me down. So I'll just use Leslie as our best succinctly putting it. She put, not a jam, thumbs down is what she's saying right here. You mean my jam's not a jam? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. She's spoken here. Okay. So everybody's got their opinion. Thanks for the elegant fade out. Come on, Rob. If you're going to send over these clips, you could give me a little fade out there. Wow. Oh, you sent them the actual clip. I didn't tailor
Starting point is 00:53:20 that one. I know. Wow. Nice. Not like me. Here's no, yeah, you find it, but I'm used to doing, I know. I'm sorry about that for this one. I didn't tailor them at all. I kept it. Well, I had the same talk of Tyler after the FOTM cast. He's given me these stingers and then they're not fading out nicely. Okay. So I'm going to ask Bob. Will let if he has any words to say before his first bird jam, my first bird to an underwhelming beginning, you know that we need to pick it up on my first bird jam. Here is, here is what I say. CFTO Channel 9 noon lunchtime during the week. And this is what you may have seen. Start the record, Bonnie! Right!
Starting point is 00:54:03 Who's that swinging down the street? Come on! Who's the birdie with the two full beats? You guys are so similar again! You're so similar! That's amazing! Listen to the dirty bird sing! Scoo-ya-da-da-da-do-pow!
Starting point is 00:54:16 Pan! Scoop-a-da-ba-do-ba-do-pa-do-pow! Go, go, go, go, go, go! Jet streamer! Listen to him rock, listen to him roll! Listen to the ricky-ticky rocking bird! Do you hear him? Well, grab, go, go! Jet-sail! Listen to him rock, listen to him roll, listen to the rickety-ricky rockin' bird. Do you hear him? Well, grab him! Nail him!
Starting point is 00:54:30 Listen to the rockin' bird, that coot. Listen to the rockin' bird, he's a buck. The rockin' bird is swingin' all day long. Can't you listen to the rockin' bird, he's a croot. Listen to the nutty nutty bird The rockin bird thoughts are the real gun song Won't you listen to the rockin bird Do you guys realize you both let off with songs? I love it!
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yeah, my first jam has a cartoon tie-in. Well, there you go. Isn't that funny? Isn't that wild? Yeah So the birds have inspired us. Yeah, absolutely birds from a cartoon tie in. Well there you go. Isn't that funny? Isn't that wild? Yep. So the birds have inspired us. Yeah, birds from a cartoon. So this is an episode of the Flintstones called Hi-Fi. The originally aired in 1960. Amazing. And again the Flintstones were the first primetime cartoon. But for adults, right? For adults, yeah. But when we were growing up here in the GTHA, CFTO every day at lunchtime, if you were lucky enough to go home for lunch, you got to turn your TV on and watch the Flintstones.
Starting point is 00:55:33 My dad used to come home every day for lunch and watch, and it was the funniest thing. He loved it. Yeah. And so there was actually two episodes where Fred became part of a rock and roll group, which was this one and the way ups was the other one. The way outs. The way out. The way out. We are the way out way out.
Starting point is 00:55:47 So this particular here's okay. So the latest smash hit by that great unknown troubadour. So that obviously is not Alan Reed. Alan Reed is the voice of Fred Flintstone in this particular. So check this out. So I, as soon as I, we did this episode, I went to YouTube to find it. Cause it's not on, it's not on a,
Starting point is 00:56:07 it's not on Spotify or anything. Check this out. You can, you look it up. You look up, listen to the rock and bird. The very first comment is from somebody who says, this is from 13 years ago. No, that's my dad, Duke Mitchell singing. Wow. They did this for Joe and Bill in parentheses,
Starting point is 00:56:25 Hannah Barbera on a day off. It was a combination of the count Basie band and the tonight show guys. The, uh, it was written by the trumpeter, Pete Ruggalo. Huh? And, uh, thanks for, uh, thanks for posting it. So, yeah, so like, isn't that crazy? So I had to look up who Duke Mitchell was because I had no idea who Duke Mitchell was and Duke Mitchell was this really interesting guy who was an actor and a crooner who had like this B level celebrity. Great voice. Great voice and I got another song by him here. This was
Starting point is 00:56:58 his other big hit. I'll be with you in apple blossom time I'll be with you, change your lane, my one day baby in May, I'll come along and say happy, happy, happy, not miserable. Let the sun shine on today. Crazy. Love it. Duke Mitchell. Great name too. Yeah. Oh, he's, real name. And he was
Starting point is 00:57:46 an actor as well. He also he was in a movie. He was in a Bella Lugosi movie in 1952 called Bella Lugosi meets a Brooklyn gorilla. See that. Yeah. And then he actually directed movies and one of his movies is a huge kind of a cult hit and it's called Massacre Mafia Style from 1974 that he directed. Wow. Yeah, Duke Mitchell. Duke Mitchell. And I found out his name because of a YouTube comment from his child.
Starting point is 00:58:15 See, you really did save us, I think, from Rob Pouss's meteoricity there. Wow. Very good. I'm just ribbing Rob to see if you can take it. If you were Cam Gordon, I'd be hitting you harder. Let's put it that there. I can take it. But who doesn't remember Lunchtime?
Starting point is 00:58:31 Like that's it. And then at 12.30, Leave It To Beaver would start and you'd have to go like 10 minutes in. I watched a shit ton of Flintstones in Leave It To Beaver. And there were good musical, like we could do a whole toast on Flintstones songs. Like there were so many. Oh, you know what? Let The Sunshine In? Yeah, that's what I could get to. Like there are so many. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:58:45 Let the sun shine in. Yeah, that's the first time. That's where I first discovered that song and loved it very much. I think it started on me. I tell my kids because I was at the Masonic temple the other day and I was telling, I was telling my kids about the water, the water buffaloes. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:02 The loyal order of Buffalo Water Buffalo. Some of the thumbs were happy. And well, yeah, this mace, this is a thing. Like the Masonic. Yeah. Oh yeah. The loyal order of Buffalo. Water Buffalo. Some of the thumbs were happening. Well, yeah, this mace, this is a thing. Like the masonic. Yeah. This whole idea. And the fact that Barney Rubble for so many years. Yeah. But it was the voice of Bugs Bunny. It was like, it's Mel Blank. Yeah. So fascinating. Yeah. We watched a shit ton and even having gay in the theme song, like out of context like that, it's like, yeah, we'll have a gay old time. Yeah. It's just, let's go. The end of cooker bar is actually gay. Your life must be the last one. There you go. Okay. Great. Great. When I heard the song, rock and listen to the rock and bird was the
Starting point is 00:59:37 very first thing that came to my head. Wow. All right, gentlemen, ready for my first jam and give me another 45 minutes. I'll tie it back to a cartoon. That's my pledge here for you. But this is the song I'm kicking out, my first bird jam. I want everybody to know about the bird. Huge, huge cartoon. Yeah. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a winner. Bird is a winner when the bird is a weirdo when a bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, Okay, this is the Trash Men.
Starting point is 01:00:28 I fucking love it, you know, it's great. But again, it'll not only tie into a cartoon, but it's going to tie into a... I have an eight-year-old and a ten-year-old. A super popular video game. It's all going to come together in a moment here, okay? I've got to educate the oldies out there about what's going on with the video games and also the name of the first single from the new Taylor Swift album, which my daughter, uh, the morning after it was released, it was released at midnight and that morning she woke up early to listen to the new Taylor Swift. She didn't stay up at midnight to
Starting point is 01:00:57 listen? No, well she's only eight though, we wouldn't let her. You can hear in the morning, it's going to be there in the morning. That's right. It's not going anywhere. It's not going anywhere. Okay. So, Surfing Bird. This is the Trash Men. And of course, the bird is the word. It's been covered many times. It's not a Trash Men original. So here, and again, if these are not new mind blows, please excuse me. Because for somebody, they're hearing this for the first time. I mean, we can't assume people know that. Like, when I was thinking about the Men at Work song and the Kukaburra song and getting the lawsuit, I'm thinking, oh, I think everybody knows that lawsuit, but I can promise you somebody learned that for the first time from you there, Rob. So we're going to bring down the Trashman and we're going to play a song
Starting point is 01:01:36 by a band called, actually we're going to play two songs by a band called The Rivingtons. The Rivingtons was an R&B outfit and they had a couple of songs that would lead to the Trashman recording this song, Surf and Bird. So let's listen to this Rivingtons song right here. Sounds like the BBB2s. It's a little bit like Fred Schneider. Right. The little hairbattles who? About the bird. About the bird, the bird, bird, bird. This predates us? Yeah, this predates it. So this is the Rivington.
Starting point is 01:02:14 This is an original. The bird's the word. And I'll let it brew for a few seconds and I'll play a different Rivington song. The city's got a little scene. It's got the latest groove that is real for me. A different Rivington song. So this song exists in the universe, and then this song also existed by the same outfit. Love it!
Starting point is 01:02:41 Talking about songs that sound the same, right? It's all the inspiration. And this song is called Papa Um Mau Mau. So these are two different R&B hits by the Rivingtons. all the inspiration. Right. And this song is called Papa Um Mau Mau. Nice. So these are two different R&B hits by the Riventons. Could have been on the Stand By Me soundtrack. Totally. Or American Graffiti or something, Happy Days. Right. So this song came first.
Starting point is 01:03:04 So Riventons put this out in 1963. This was a Billboard Hot 100 hit. Papa Um-Mau-Mau. But then their second follow-up was The Bird's the Word, which I played just before this. The Trashmen never even heard the song by the Rivingtons, but they heard a band covering it. So they heard Sorensen brothers playing Bird Is The Word. So then they decided they'd play it live at their own gig and they'd play
Starting point is 01:03:31 Bird Is The Word. But during the performance, they add in that Papa Oom Mau Mau part, because they thought it was so similar, it would make sense to add it. So they add that. And somebody listening, a disc jockey named Bill Deal, he's at the gig, he hears them do this hybrid of those two Rivington songs, he hears them do it live, this is the trashman I'm talking about, and he says you guys should record the track man, why don't you get put that down man, this is how I picture him talking right, so they go to K-Bank Studios in Minneapolis and they record it, it gets entered into a local battle of the bands competition.
Starting point is 01:04:06 It wins first prize and then they sign to Garrett Records and then they release this single, well not this, the Trashman single and it sells 30,000 copies in its first weekend and then it goes on to national success and it hits number four on the billboard hot that's 100 very cool So the Rivings had to get credit so originally they weren't getting songwriting credit But that was quickly changed and the Rivington's received Songwriting credit because they threatened to sue the trash man, and they would have had a good case right Rob Well in those days same fucking song it's the same song, but I think in those days people were a lot more lenient with their You know
Starting point is 01:04:46 There were less lawyers in the world who needed to make buck So the music was able to flow freely so that was the the version I'm kicking out is trash man But here's another version very popular especially amongst amongst our I fo TMS for 40ms. So that's the Ramones. Yep. Doing their cover of Surfing Bird. And of course, when the great Paul Rubens passed away, we paid tribute. And I think I played this then because I loved a movie called Back to the Beach and you know speaking of leave it to beaver all the survivor members
Starting point is 01:05:49 that leave it to beaver show up as for cameos in this movie including members of Gilligan's Island like it's just a nostalgic trip like I feel like I'm from the sixties when I watched them holy crow but Pee Wee fucking Herman shows up in this movie, Back to the Beach, and I said I'd bring it back to a cartoon and then it's gonna get to the video game, okay? So I think a lot of people listening are like, get to the fireworks factory. So that would be a... I'm gonna flip this ahead. I see there's some blank space in the beginning here. Let's kick this
Starting point is 01:06:52 Surfing bird by the trash man. This is my favorite song of all time The way the way the bird bird bird bird is a word a well-a-bared bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird, bird, well a bird is a word, well a bird, bird, a bird is a word, well a bird, bird, a bird is a word, well a bird, bird, a bird is a word. Chris, don't you know about the bird? Very addictive, by the way. Everybody knows that the bird is a word, well a bird, bird, bird, the bird is the word. Hey, guy behind the counter, the bird is the bird. Hey, frightened little child, the bird is the word. Lady on the toilet, the bird is the word. Hey, don't you know about the bird? Sure, everybody knows that the bird is the word. Lady on the toilet. The bird is the word. Hey, don't you know about the bird?
Starting point is 01:07:26 Sure, everybody knows that the bird is the word. A wellabird, bird. The bird's a word, a wellabird. Again, again, I love repetition. What? I can't tell you. Ha! All right, so literally when I was...
Starting point is 01:07:39 Will you give that song a rest? You've been playing it ever since we got home. No way, Lois. It's my new favorite thing in the world. Ugh! Lois, I'm gonna ask you this only once. Do you or do you not know about the bird? Oh, God!
Starting point is 01:07:56 Because everybody's heard that the bird is the word. A-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba Magic. Isn't that wild? I think it's wild. Like when I was putting my songs together for this, I said to Morgan, I said, guess what song I'm gonna be playing on toes? And she's like, what? And I went, ah, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. I just went like that. I went, ah, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. And then she breaks into it. Nice.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And then it's like, because I don't know if, I think Bob knows this. I'm not sure Rob knows this, but Peter Griffin from Family Guy is now a skin, as the kids would say, innight. Oh, do you know this Bob will let I did. I did not know that. So Jarvis has the skin, Peter Griffin, very proud of it. And the surfing bird is a part of fortnight. And I'm telling you, there are kids throughout the world right now who are singing surfing bird, not necessarily because of family guy,
Starting point is 01:09:00 but because of fortnight. That's hilarious. Also the name of the new single with the, from, uh, Taylor Swift, Fortnite. There you go. Okay. Look at that crap. You brought it around. Did you see the video yet for the, for Fortnite? If you see the video. No. Okay. There's a cameo by Ethan Hawk and, uh, the guy from sport night whose name will come to me in a minute, but they were in a dead poet society. Like, so she put a dead poet society thing, cause this is like tortured poets thing. Just, I hear a lot of Swifty shit going on everywhere here.
Starting point is 01:09:30 So I thought that was a fun fact. I'm glad Taylor Swift is bringing a new audience to the Blue Nile. You know the band, the Blue Nile from the nineties, Scottish band, and she was dating, she was dating a guy named Maddie Healy from the 1975. Yes. And so she's got this song where she references a Blue Nile,
Starting point is 01:09:44 some of the Downtown Lights, which was an off their album. It's from the late 80s, early 90s. And it's just super cool. Oh, cool. Shout out to Taylor Swift if she's listening at home. That's right. So Rob Proust, we're back to you.
Starting point is 01:09:57 This is the jam I had on my list originally. You removed it for me, thank you. I removed it for you because your fucking keyboard is for spoons for God's sakes, okay? Are you gonna play my first one first? You literally put numbers next to these fucking songs. Wow, so you do a mind blow first? Yes. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:13 So just so Bob knows, I unzipped this thing and there were folders, directories. I sent a whole folder. Wow. And then there's numbers, like one dash and then the name of the song. Right. So are you asking me if I know to play the one that says one dash before the one that says two dash? Is that what you're asking
Starting point is 01:10:29 me right now? No, I know, you know. So the reason I wanted to play this one first is because the song is so like obvious in so many ways and it's a ubiquitous song forever. And I thought, well, we'll start it up with something different and then it's just sort of more interesting. But this is a mind blow. Yeah, sort of. What do you mean, sort of? It's a version. It's a version.
Starting point is 01:10:56 But not the... Is this your student? Is this you, Rob? Nope. This is your student. Is this you, Rob? Nope. Would you share with us what exactly, we know the song, but what version are we listening to? This is Chili Gonzales.
Starting point is 01:11:51 You know Chili Gonzales? Oh yeah, of course. This is Chili. Frank Boguski wouldn't shut up about Chili Gonzales. Yeah, this is Chili. Okay. So he's got some really cool stuff. He's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:11:59 He works with Feisty, he works with Drake. Yeah. He lives in Paris now. He put this out, this album several years ago. It's just a cover. It's like all 80s covers, but like his cool solo PM stuff. Take on this stuff. It's not even professionally recorded, right?
Starting point is 01:12:11 Cause you can hear the mix of the- It's just a live crowd. Somebody recording it. Okay. And he's unbelievably talented. I've seen him- I thought this was Rob Bruce when I first heard it. I wish it was.
Starting point is 01:12:20 No, I mean, I do things like this as well, but this is chilly. And when I was thinking of the song, I was like, well, if we, if we start the normal song with the normal guitar and it's, we know what it is and there you go. Chili signed with arts and crafts records here in Canada. Yeah. He's amazing. He, he's pretty cool. Yeah. He's super cool. Shout out to the stars. Yeah, exactly. He's with everybody. Um, and so I just want to start out with this one so you can play, you can play a bit of the other one if you want now.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah. I'm actually so it's funny cause I had this loaded up and I had my mind blows cause I was going to kick this out and I'm always first in because I do it like the day of like I decide the time as we decide. Yeah, I do it and I just load it up. But, uh, so I liked my version of the song better than yours. Okay. Well, no, just actual fit the actual file. Uh, we play yours. Yeah. I'm going to play mine. What's the difference? actual file record. Oh, and then play yours. Yeah, I'm gonna play mine. What's the difference?
Starting point is 01:13:04 I don't know. All right. Great. There you go. You've heard this song before. Today Bob discovered Prince. And I'll just say it's my favorite Prince song. Is it really?
Starting point is 01:13:20 Yeah. This is my favorite Prince song. This, you know what? I think that I was listening to his album in 1999 before this was released, but I was sort of new to it all. So like for a year before this came out, I still remember. So this is coming up on the 40 year anniversary of Wound Up's Cry and Purple Rain. And it changed my life in the summer of 84.
Starting point is 01:13:38 He didn't hit the post. Animals strike curious poses They feel the heat, the heat between me and you I'm just standing Alone in a world that's so cold I was saying that this is my favorite Prince song. I heard you say that. I'm not a Prince head. I just like the hits. And whilst I was using your facilities, I was thinking, I don't know what I could say my favorite Prince song is. Purple Rain. Purple Rain is in there. You know what I actually also love is I love the build of Little Red Corvette.
Starting point is 01:14:40 The opening of Little Red Corvette is one of my favorite song openings ever. But I also love that Prince um, uh, Prince, the new power generation stuff. I'm in some diamonds and pearls and cream and stuff. Yeah. Seven. Oh, get off and then get all of those. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love all of it. Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm wouldn't call myself a super fan. Don't forget the greatest Prince song of all time. Bat dance. I love that whole album, that whole Batman soundtrack. I like. Yeah. Yeah. The Devil and the Pale Moonlight. That's right. Curious ones try and always die. That
Starting point is 01:15:11 was in the liner notes. Uh, yeah. So it's hard to say. No, it's hard to say, but I feel like Prince is still a guy who lived like with album, like you could, you could name an album and you would love a whole album from him. Like of course I was obsessed with 1999 before this came out. When purple rain came out that whole summer, I was listening to the whole thing nonstop. Then beyond that, there was around in the world, around the world. And a day was an album I loved and I sort of was like in the pro Prince camp for a long time while I was in the spoons.
Starting point is 01:15:37 I was like super influenced by his RNB stuff more than I thought I would be. But I remember still the day this was premiered on the radio and I was lying in our backyard. It was the summer, like almost 40 years ago, summer of 84. They're like, here's the new Prince single. And everybody was like, what's it going to be? And there was nothing like this, you know, when this was introduced, no bass, no nothing, just drum machine and vocals, you know, and he plays all the parts. Like he's, he's doing everything. He's like the, the Dave Grohl of this outfit here. Billy Corrigan. He's doing all the parts, whether his band knows it or not.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Yeah. Amazing. Anyways, it's an obvious bird jam, but how can you ignore it? Yeah. Well, two of the three of us had this on our top three. That's how good a song this is. Now, I'm going to play my mind blows because you did your mind blow. Okay, so I will start with this. Kind of a sad mind blow about this singer. Maybe I'm just too demanding How many notes do you need? Maybe I'm just too demanding Not a fan of that type of music No, go, no
Starting point is 01:16:49 Maybe I'm just too demanding So I take it she's dead? He What was it, he? My apologies I know, yeah it's tough to tell He has passed away actually He was only 38 when he died
Starting point is 01:16:57 But do you guys know what movie this is from? This cover Why do you always know what movie this is from? this cover No, sir so Quindon Tarver is his name and he was the choir boy in Romeo and Juliet Lerman
Starting point is 01:17:21 Shout out to Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes. And this is the version, his cover of Wendell's Cry, who's not only on the soundtrack, but in the movie. Wow. Who produced this? That's like, Boz Lerman definitely has a sound he likes. Totally. How could you leave me standing? Alone in a world that's so cold. So I was going to share it because there's so many great covers of this song.
Starting point is 01:17:55 But here's one. But then there's one I thought, okay, well, this is Toronto Mike. We have to serve the FOTM. So what better way to serve the FOTM than an FOTM cover of this song? Do you will picture? Of you and I engaged in a kiss. The sweat of your body covers me. I'm not telling you, you get to guess.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Rob wants me to tell him who this is. Tell me who it is. It's an FOTM. Sounds like somebody from Sloan. In fact, I'll check the livestream in case somebody wants to guess it. It's Sloanish. Keep listening. No, Rob, it's not Gino Vanelli. It's not Gino.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Can we get off? When Dev's crying already? When you said Sloan, it was kind of interesting because a member of Sloan is in a super group with this guy. Oh, is this Pursuit of Happiness? Oh, this is Moe. Oh, really? What do you think?
Starting point is 01:19:09 That's fine. He sounds so young. When did they do it? How old is this? I'm not too sure how old, but what is interesting to me is that when I listen to Moe's voice on this song, I get a Weird Al Yankovic vibe. Right, totally. That's why he sounds so young. is that when I listen to Moe's voice on this song, I get a Weird Al Yankovic vibe. Right, totally.
Starting point is 01:19:25 That's why he sounds so young. Funny. This is like Weird Al covering straight up. It's the best try. Right. Right. It's so cold, but maybe I'm just too thin. If it was a Weird Al song, it'd be like When Doves Die.
Starting point is 01:19:36 That's right. Wait, didn't Prince tell him no? Didn't he, really? Wasn't that one of the famous stories? Because he asks his artists. He always asks, yeah. He always asks. Right. And that's why we have the Coolio controversy Cause you know, he asks his artists. He always asks.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Right. And that's why we had the Coolio controversy because he says he didn't say yes, but that Weird Al thought he said yes. Cause he was whatever. So, uh, but yeah, I think Prince famously, cause there were so many opportunities to cover Prince, uh, parody print songs. Prince famously said no. Wow. And we missed out on the opportunity for purple trains.
Starting point is 01:20:04 It does sound a little bit like we were down. I have a, like, I've never actually received a FLAC file on live.torontomike.com. I'm going to click it. It's going to download and then I don't know what I'm playing. So I'm going to load this in. This is happening in real time. I'm very excited by these things, you know? So, and again, it's not titled, so I still don't know. Well, it says it's a cover, yeah. I'm watching the flak load into the soundboard. There it is. You guys ready to hear what I was I've told it's another FOTM cover. You ready? Sure. And this is from Canada Kev. Spare naked ladies.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Enid Minnevin. Dysodium Etta. Totally. As soon as I heard the bass line. So it was now we have people in the live stream submitting Yeah, as soon as I heard the bass. I know, it's true. Okay. I like it. There you go. See, I like this. Now we have people in the live stream submitting mind blows. Yeah, see, I like this.
Starting point is 01:21:13 This is great. This is cool. Also, Trans-Canada Highwaymen. Yeah, yeah. It's all baby. There you go. Sloan, Pursuit of Happiness. Any odds, covers of...
Starting point is 01:21:24 Yeah, probably. Okay, so excellent here. Okay, good second jam by Rob Pruss. Thank you for contributing to the- There you go, yeah, thank you. That was basement dollar something, was it? No, it was Canada Cab. Oh, it was Canada Cab.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Thanks, Canada Cab. Canada Cab was like an OG in the B&L universe. Right, yes, yes, yes. OG in the B&L. OG in the B&L, without a doubt. Shout out to Brian Dunn, the biggest BNL head in the TMU Right. Yes, I kind of joked somewhere. Can you remind me Bob was that on the live chat? Where did I joke that will likely we'll probably hear a Pearl Jam song today?
Starting point is 01:21:55 Yeah, you said that on air or like there's some way or like somewhere you said that yeah, you tweeted it or so I like to even though it's not true But I used to say the same Cam Gordon would kick out a smashing pumpkin song every second episode or something like that Although I'm the one who kicked out kind of some Smashing pumpers today. Okay, so thank you B&L. Thank you. That's okay. That was great deal fine. Thank you Prince Rob Proust great choice when doves cry. It's a wonderful bird You're almost made up for the shitty first song you kicked out my goofy song What would you say about your first, your second jam, Bob?
Starting point is 01:22:27 I don't remember if my second one, which one was my second one? Is it the popular one? I just, oh yeah, no, um, uh, I'm wearing a shirt. Represents it. Oh yes. Okay. I see. Yes. All right. Here. Let's kick it. You're going to argue about that. I can go up and get my yield shirt. There you go. I own, I still have my 98 yield shirt. I have like 40 Pearl Jam shirts.
Starting point is 01:22:52 I don't know the song. You'll know. I love it. I love the blind spots. I fucking love it. I'm a bad time, nothing could save me Alone in a corridor waiting lockdown He got up out of there and went 400 miles He made it to the ocean had a small
Starting point is 01:24:09 Set him down Woo! I see this flowing Oh, oh, oh In Flying Oh, oh, oh Fly Fly Oh, oh, oh Why? Why? Oh! There you go. That is... I don't kick out Pearl Jam every time,
Starting point is 01:24:33 but I would say probably 25% of the time now. It's like when you do a caricature of somebody, you find something and you accentuate. I have to. So this is, of course, is Given to Fly by Pearl Jam from Yield, released in 98 and this was the first single off the album and This particular shirt I'm wearing is my proof that it's a bird jam because there's no birds
Starting point is 01:24:56 Mentioned in the song but it says given to fly and this is from the 19 August 22nd 1998 show at Molson Park in Barry. I was there. The 35,000 people. That's when I got my yield. Yeah. And this was one of the shirts that was for sale. There's a small stage. Well, that was custom was there. Wasn't he? Well, not show. No, no. Who is that? Was Harvey Danger? Good. I remember Mac good. All systems go. Good. Hayden. Matt Good, All Systems Go, Matt Good, Hayden. Right, yes. And...
Starting point is 01:25:27 There was somebody else. Matt Good, Hayden. This was already a pretty good line-up by the way. Cracker. Cracker, 100% cracker. And on the main stage was Cheap Trick. Cheap Trick. And then Pearl Jam.
Starting point is 01:25:39 I will just tell you, I had the... It's still one of my favorite concerts of all time. I loved that day. That's amazing. Eddie actually talked about it the next time they were in town talking about how great the show was. It really is one of the better shows. That guy right there, Canadian of the year. I still remember all the band talk and it was, and I remember that I was with my first wife. We were there and I remember the crowd. I remember the undertow and we had to go back to get out. I was, I had just like, I was saving her life. I've never been in a crowd like that. Well, they, Pearl Jam often when they, when you go see them,
Starting point is 01:26:09 we'll talk about the song in a second. When you go see them, they usually open with a slower song and kind of build that show and open with a quarter. Right. Like a really like a Bamba and the place just went and you see the dust come up and it was, I get chills when I say it was, yeah, it was a band I've seen 40 times and I get chills when I think about this show. And I've seen 40 times, right? And I get chills when I think about this show. That's so cool. So it's given a fly written lyrics by Eddie Vedder. The music is by Mike McCready, the lead guitarist. And when it first came out, this is not really a mind blow.
Starting point is 01:26:35 I'm sure we've actually talked about it here on the show before it's very reminiscent and quite inspired by a Led Zeppelin song. I was gonna say, I'm like, I know this. Do you want the mind blow? Because this was obvious from the get-go and you can't hear one without two. So now when you hear going to California.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Do you want it? Yeah, I'd asked you to get it. Yeah. That's what it is. Oh, it's, yeah. Yeah, it's almost identical. It's like Biff Naked is to Smashing Pumpkins. That's right.
Starting point is 01:27:02 True. As that Pearl Jam song is led zeppelin Can we get props to Led Zeppelin 4, which was my gateway to the Led Zeppelin universe? Mine too. How, I mean, Black Dog is on there, Rock and Roll, Stairway to Fuckin' Heaven is on there, going to California. It was my first album for sure. Bob, anything you want to say? Oh, I'm a houses of the holy guy.
Starting point is 01:27:45 When it comes to when it comes to Zeppelin, but, um, yeah. So the, the interesting thing about this is if you're a real Pearl Jam person, the drums on it were still, uh, Jack Irons who a former red hot chili pepper drummer and he had done, uh, the no code album before that. Uh, just, you know what? I mean, it's a, given a fly in it's a great live song because it unlike you know, this doesn't quite build as much right. I actually prefer a given given a flight builds to this amazing. Oh, and then just yeah, I mean, you know, he made it to this.
Starting point is 01:28:16 He made it to the sea, had a smoke in a tree and then there's like a whole thing about he takes a punch to the failing the sea, punch them in the face and he fucked these fuckers. He still stands. It goes. Now it's, it's a, it's awesome. It is for me, a, a flying song. And when I think of birds, they fly and I have the shirt. It is a bit of a reach, right? I was waiting for Mike to say, but I have the shirt. Let me talk to Rob for a second. Rob. It's called given to fly.
Starting point is 01:28:42 He's got a t-shirt where there's birds on it. Yeah. Lots of things. He supports the idea. called given to fly. He's got a t-shirt where there's birds on it. Yeah. Lots of things fly. The t-shirt supports the idea. But lots of things fly, right? Yeah. You know, we talked about Dave Grohl a moment ago. Foo Fighters have a very big song called Learn to Fly. Oh, they do.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Tom Petty's got a- Oh, yeah, absolutely. So there's a lot of fly songs. Learning to Fly. Maybe we should have done a fly. Maybe one day. Maybe one day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Fly Jam. There is no- like, do we have evidence? Is there a bird? Eddie Vedder who wrote the lyrics, has he ever said on the record, this song is about birds? Well, I don't have every quote ever by Eddie Vedder. So your evidence is some fucking t-shirt designer. This fucking t-shirt that came out of the album came out.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Do you think Eddie fucking approves every piece of merch? I absolutely do. I think he probably drew those birds. Well, lots of things fly. Yeah. Yeah, but birds fly, shirt, given to fly, shirt released. Wait, okay, Rob, I'm looking at you. Rob. Yeah, but birds fly shirt given to fly shirt. Okay, Rob. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like you this is worse Well, you didn't like my goofy. J. You didn't like my you've been giving him shit Oh, yeah, but at least that's a song about bird a bird an actual bird
Starting point is 01:29:37 Right like that with that at least I said it was shitty, but yeah, I also said it qualifies I'm not sure this qualifying well the concept of flying. Are you looking for an eddy? He's reading the feeling of flight. I really loved. Well, there's nothing but a bird, but you know, he says, I imagined a 20 page cardboard children's book with a line on each page and a picture to go with it. It's a fable. That's all. The music almost gives you a feeling of flight and I really love seeing the part at the end. Yeah, I can put on like I can fly with all right. So what are you gonna kick me out? You're gonna kick me out of the club. Maybe next words fly talking about it next time. I
Starting point is 01:30:12 should have you know who I'm trying to think of us. Well, my somebody with a bird last name is gonna be the partridge family partridge family. That's what you should have done. A bird ever sang a Larry bird doing a song. There you go. Larry bird is the word. Partridge family song. There you go. Larry bird is the word archage families. Very good, Rob. Yeah. Let's name other people with names of like Rob and thick. That's perfect. There's lots of songs that got his dad. I've told that story too many times. I turn them like somebody. Yeah. I think it was maybe a Mark wise blood in a, like maybe it was a chat with lesser people than the normal FOTM chat, but he referenced Nick Carter today.
Starting point is 01:30:45 And my first response was I played softball with him because I simply can't hear a reference to Nick Carter in the wild without sharing the fact that played softball with them. Like I'm unable to suppress it. Like it has to, I have to share that Nick Carter of the Backstreet Boys. I played softball with him like an oh three or something. Is he the one that has the younger brother? Brothers died. He's dead. Oh, that's right. Shout out the red lead funeral home. My goodness gracious. I've, there's another song here from a certain band that
Starting point is 01:31:11 formed in Seattle, Washington. Should I play this Bob? Sure. Go for it. Your jam. Was this me? Oh, this is what I was. Oh, that's right. Yes. No, I do now because this is the only Pearl Jam lyric that actually has a bird in it. Oh, there's a bird in this song and release. There's actually a bird in the in this lyric in the lyrics to release That's why I had this because I knew you were gonna say hey, that's right. Sorry. I did I'm trying to think of lawyers advice. There's none. Trust me. I wish I was the cuckoo out of your cuckoo clock, so this I Love this out. Okay. Now I see the
Starting point is 01:31:46 bird. Yeah. I see the rock rocking horse on tie. Uh, yeah. Hang on. I see the birds in the rain. So it goes, yeah. I feel the world. I feel the chill. Which way to go windowsill. I see the words on a rock and horse of time. I see the birds in the rain. So there's a bird. So yeah, I'm singing in black and say the birds and somebody else's sky. So why star it is Jesus man? Yeah, so this is actually the interesting one time when we have already like going a little too deep here, but there's actually the interesting part of the on the original version of ten
Starting point is 01:32:21 at the beginning of this song. Eddie actually comes in early. If you listen close enough, you hear you actually here in the opening here. What are your thoughts on Pearl Jam? I like project like, will you, will you purposefully put on a Pearl Jam album? I see. Hang on. I see the birds there.
Starting point is 01:32:39 There you go. In the right. There you go. I do want to listen to the new album, which I've not listened to. I just listened to it. Actually, It's pretty good. It's very people are saying best album since yield. What's a Bob Ouellette? Uh, it's very good. I appreciate hearing what Andrew Watt, the producer did with them, made them all kind of like put them in the same room and the old band whisperer
Starting point is 01:32:57 kind of him and Brendan O'Brien or Brendan O'Brien rolling stones and yeah. And then Bob Rock is the guy who breaks bands up but yeah. You know what I like it a lot. I went to a dine alone records and hung out and I saw it. Josie die was there. No, that's her husband owns it, but you just he died was not there, but I went and I listened to the album before a week before came out, which is nice and I've I got the vinyl and yeah it's gonna listen to it. It's amazing. It's very good. It is very good. Any truth to the rumor that when Marilyn Dennis is retired, that Josie
Starting point is 01:33:29 dies slides right into that seat. I have heard these rumors as well. Marilyn Dennis. Yeah. It's from Roger Rick and Merrill. No, I know Marilyn Dennis for a thousand years. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:39 Well, she's still around. Oh yeah. She's still, it's, it's, it's, uh, Jamar, Marilyn and Jamar. Wow. FOTM Jamar. And I in. So it's, it's a Jamar, Marilyn and Jamar. Wow. FOTM Jamar. Wow. And I believe, and it's not even close,
Starting point is 01:33:47 that is the longest serving morning show host in Toronto radio that we have today. Oh, for sure. Today. Yeah. And then Rosamocca. Wow. Rosamocca come after that.
Starting point is 01:33:58 They're like 15 years now or something. Is Marilyn an FOTM? No, not yet. Her people got back to me and said she was very busy. What about her son, Adam? Said no. She'll be back. She'll be on. She'll be here. I did have a nice chat with her at the Amasee Hall at this Rock of Fame induction thing.
Starting point is 01:34:15 I was there. I had a red carpet spot and Marilyn was like the host. Cool. And we were chatting it up and I don't know. She seemed to know who I was. It was clear she knew who I was. Everybody in radio knows who you are. Do they? They can pretend that they don't, but they do, dude.
Starting point is 01:34:28 That's right. Trust me, I know them. Yeah. And they don't want to care. But they do care. I'm just honored Marilyn knows who I am. That's exciting to me. Like anybody who's in radio, in the GTHA,
Starting point is 01:34:39 knows who you are. I'll wait up in the dark. Nice. There you go. All right, so yeah, there you go. Ready for mine? So. I kind of want to with the song. I'm going to go with the song. I'm going to go with the song. I'm going to go with the
Starting point is 01:34:48 song. I'm going to go with the song. I'm going to go with the song. I'm going to go with the song. I'm going to go with the
Starting point is 01:34:56 song. I'm going to go with the song. I'm going to go with the song. I'm going to go with the song. I'm going to go with the
Starting point is 01:35:04 song. I'm going to go with the song. I'm going to go with the song. seen Eddie solo once or twice to let them in your I saw them in the Ed Sullivan. You were there. Wow, yes, I went specifically for that cold. Was it pardon me? How cold was it? It's freezing in there. I've been in. I've been in the Ed Sullivan Theater four times, four times. I also was in the I saw Conan O'Brien in his first year. Did you and I saw Conan O'Brien in his fifth year? Amazing. Yeah, I love late night television in general and yeah, I've seen well, I think I've told the story before. 1999 was my first time seeing the going to the late late show with David Letterman at the at Sullivan. I saw
Starting point is 01:35:37 taping there, so I've seen a bunch. Yeah, and the first one was, and I swear it could have been, it could have been nineteen seventy nine because it was nineteen ninety nine and it was was, and I swear it could have been, it could have been 1979 because it was 1999 and it was Cheech Marin. Wow. Dennis Hopper and the fucking sex pistols. What? Yeah. Sex pistols.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Oh my God. It was crazy. It's the most, I didn't even, yeah. It was insane. I saw a taping of Johnny Carson once when I was 17. That's some wild, wild stuff right there. It really is. Wild stuff. There's a service here in Toronto called Pluto TV's, it's owned by my former employer's chorus and
Starting point is 01:36:08 they have a free all Johnny Carson channel. Love that. It's my go-to at night. I'm the same way. I want Carol Burnett to yes. Carol Burnett's on there too. And I just, the Johnny thing is so crazy because it was such a different way of interviewing and it was, he was so so like he was the star clearly almost every time he was the biggest star, but the way he he operated and his sketches, which don't really get enough cred. They don't get enough props. Oh my gosh, it's so crazy. Anyway, it's true. So there you go. Pearl jam singing songs that kind of about birds. I like the songs. I'll allow it. Thank
Starting point is 01:36:44 you. Oh, there there's the hidden track. There's the hidden track of about birds. I like the songs, I'll allow it. There you go, thank you. Oh, there's the hidden track. There's the hidden track. As they do, remember in the 90s, you'd always like... Little housekeeping here. Kev the Kev says that that B&L version of Wind Dove's Cry is from the Horseshoe Tavern in 1991.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Oh, wow. Oh, nice. So not from a humble and Fred Christmas party. And speaking of Barenaked Ladies, Moose Grumpy is in the live chat and she will be seeing the current lineup of Barenaked Ladies tonight. Oh, why are they playing tonight?
Starting point is 01:37:12 Moose, let us know where they're playing tonight. I'm gonna say Massey probably. I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say that, you know, they're playing a show coming up. Did you guys ever hear of Sobe's Stadium? Oh yes, I saw that. It's just built. I had to Google it.
Starting point is 01:37:24 No, they just built it. It's where they're gonna do the tennis up at York and they're known as something else and I thought of you know it's new it's brand new and I thought of you because you told you went and saw Duran Duran at a tennis court yes for still stadium and I feel like this is they're trying to emulate this up at York except they call it Sobeys. Well, it's the sponsor. Well, that's the sponsor, yeah. You gotta make money, baby. I worked five years for Oshawa Foods, who sold out to Sobeys.
Starting point is 01:37:51 So I almost worked for Sobeys. That's a loose connection to Sobeys Stadium. But what the fuck, right? It's my show. Okay, I'm gonna kick out a jam, if you guys don't mind. Do it. This'll be my second jam. I'm enjoying our bird jams very much.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Goodbye to Pearl Jam. Love you very much. But here's a Canadian we're going to listen to right now. I have tried in my way to be free Like a worm from some old-fashioned book I have been unkind I hope that you can just let it go by Now, this is a bird jam, okay? This song is literally inspired by a bird sitting on, there's a Greek island, Hydra, where Cohen lived in the 1960s. Which Cohen is that? Leonard Cohen! In fact, next week I'm in Montreal and I'll see the beautiful mural of Leonard Cohen. They did a great job on that.
Starting point is 01:40:01 But this bird is sitting on a phone wire that had just been installed in high on Hydra and he wrote this song which is Leonard Cohen wrote bird on the wire the wire my favorite television show of all time and I would point to the box set but I lent it to leave a Fumka so leave a Fumka has my wire box set right now. What can I tell you except he wrote it in, he recorded it in Nashville in 1968, September 26 to be exact. This is on Leonard Cohen's 1969 album Songs from a Room.
Starting point is 01:40:40 This is not the first version of his song, Bird on the Wire, to be released. Can any of you two musical scholars name the artist who first recorded Well, not first, I don't think. Aaron Neville's the one that comes to mind for me. I'm gonna guess like Judy Collins or somebody. Rob Pruss, you are a musicologist, you son of a bitch. What? Judy Collins. Is it really? Wow!
Starting point is 01:41:03 That's weird. Nice. She covered a lot of Cohen she did It's more country Like a drum in a midnight choir I have tried in my way to be free There's a great... I gotta get Kevin Shea back on the show. Kevin Shea used, babysit Judy Collins when she'd come to Toronto. And he's got a lot of great Judy Collins stories. Rob, have you ever met Judy Collins? I have not. I have met Kevin Shea. So indirectly, once- You've met Kevin Shea.
Starting point is 01:41:54 One step away. Yeah. Kevin worked with us with Honeymoon Suite. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Kevin does a lot of work with the Hockey Hall of Fame now. Bob Roper too. Right. And they're doing this commercial, like the guy who takes work of the hockey hall of fame now. With Bob Roper too. Right. All those things. And they're doing this commercial, like the guy who takes care of the cup. Kevin once said he was gonna deliver, that man was gonna come.
Starting point is 01:42:12 And I wasn't even sure what I was gonna talk to him about, but he had stories about what the cup had been up to and all this stuff. Did he bring the cup? He never came. Not yet. Well, I see him in this ad all the time, the keeper of the cup here.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Okay, so a quick, we're gonna quickly burn through a few, few fun fact mind blows about Bird on the Wire. That's, of course, a cover by Judy Collins. It came out before Leonard Cohen's version. Here's a cover I wanted to shout out. You should just play songs and you name the artist. It sounds like Robbie Robertson.
Starting point is 01:42:46 No, it does have that... It's got that Peter Gabriel, Daniel N. Waushe. Oh. Beth Nielsen Chapman. That's a good guess. I have tried in my way to be free Beth Nielsen Chapman That's a good guess Jennifer Warrens
Starting point is 01:43:11 Oh, Jennifer Warrens, yeah First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin Then we take the bird on the wire And of course, I think I've played on this program a couple of times Her version of Famous Blue Raincoat That album, Famous Blue raincoat by Jennifer Warren's yeah reached number 16 in this country in 1987. Ken Con. But that was because of what was her big hit with Joe Cocker. Love Lifts Says Where We Belong written by Buffy something or Beverly's
Starting point is 01:43:40 Santa Maria. Shout out to Palma Pasta. Shout out to Buffy, Saint Marie. That's right. Oh, I was fact-checked on something. Shout out to Robert Lawson. But in the Biff Naked episode, she says that Buffy, the fictional vampire slayer, lost her virginity to Biff Naked's Lucky. But I was told, no, that wasn't when she lost her virginity.
Starting point is 01:44:01 But apparently, she did bang it out to Lucky by Biff Naked. So there's a little Buffy adjacent trivia. Okay. A couple more. I want to burn through here. Bob mentioned this one. This was big when we were kids, right? Bob? Like 80. Yeah. Is this the Neville brothers or just Aaron Neville? Just Aaron Neville. Oh, I think it's the Neville brothers. I think it's the Neville Brothers. And this was in a certain movie. Can you name the movie this was in? 1990. Is this something that would be unexpected? No, you would expect this song to be in this movie.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Pretty Woman. No, I'll give you a couple clues. First clue is Mel Gibson. I knew it's a Mel Gibson song. Yes, I knew it's a Mel Gibson movie because I thought Lethal We weapon, but it's not lethal Rob Bruce wrote the theme song to leave No, I knew it's a my one more clue
Starting point is 01:44:55 Goldie Hawn Gibson Goldie. I know Gibson a goalie. I Know you know it. In fact, I'm sure you might have even seen it. It was one of those typical blockbusters Bird on a wire. It's called a movie, right? Yes. Okay There we go in the days when you had to go to a movie theater and watch a movie or you had First choice super channel first choice super channel or jumbo video. That's an interesting distinction because The song that was written and recorded by Leonard Cohen is called saw a bird on the wire This is bird on our wire. This is bird on a wire Interesting right a little bit less money to Leonard then
Starting point is 01:45:36 Little less money for the coin say he he lost all that money, right? Didn't he have the great He law he got Taken for a whole whack of cash? I can't say I'm aware, but you know what? There was a huge Leonard Cohen show at the AGO that I probably should have seen. Oh yeah, I heard about that. Yeah. Do you know anyone at the AGO? Well, they're going back to work, I think, which is good.
Starting point is 01:45:59 Oh good, shout out to Sean Williams-Clark, who is part of the AGO. Who's the other FOTM? Jim Shedden? Jim Shedden, there you go. But he's not on strike, right? No, no, no, he's managing. with the Sean Williams Clark who is trying to who's the other FOTM Jim Shedding. There you go, but he's not on strike. No, no, no. He's managing. You know anyone else at the AGO? Yeah, I do. Yeah. My lovely one works very, very hard there. I'm gonna hold over jokes. I have. That's wonderful to hear. Okay, so I want you to make some communist union jokes. Is that what you're doing? Like you I'm super low. We're super. Yeah, I'm pro union too. I know.
Starting point is 01:46:29 But why do you think I'm making an anti-union joke? No, a pro union joke against my wife is what I thought you were going to say. What? Oh, it's Johnny on a wire. Is this a drunk? This is the Is this a drunk this is a Have tried In my way Bob could sound like John yeah This is a Rick Rubin production, right?
Starting point is 01:47:03 He just stuck a mic in front of them and take like a fish play this sound guard in the song Rusty cage. I'm gonna break. Play this. I'm gonna break. I'm gonna break. Fashion book. Deal years ago. Have you seen his grandson doing stuff?
Starting point is 01:47:14 No, no. Google or go to YouTube and look up his grandson. Really? His grandson's doing some covers of his stuff. For thee. Like a bird. Here's another hit, okay, so I mentioned. And if I.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Before, Johnny, I'm trying to talk here. If I have been unkind. This guy's good, man. Hurt myself today. Exactly. I just hope you. It's great. Wow. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Delia's gone. We'll let it go. So back window, so I mentioned Judy Collins had a hit with this and then Leonard Cohen put it out. But this was another hit in the late sixties. Name this artist, what a distinctive voice we're about to hear. I bet you'll nail it.
Starting point is 01:48:00 But this was a big hit in Canada too. Maybe because it was Cancun. Is it Dylan? Joe Cocker? Is it Joe Cocker? That's Joe Cocker, man. Cocker, I don't even know her. Wow.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Letterman made that joke once when Jo Cochran was on Letterman. Literally, he was cutting to Jo Cochran. He was introducing him. Reminds me of The Simpsons and they did the Hee Haw Spoo and he goes, bitter? Yep, bit him too. I swear, Letterman cut to Jo Cochran and said it. Okay, I'm boring myself now, but this is a Canadian artist that we all love. I'm going to do here.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Okay, so one last one. It goes like this. Name this great Canadian, Future FOTM. Good guitar player. I have tried in my way to be free. Any guesses yet? Maybe we need more. Like him. Sounds vaguely familiar. He's really working hard. Any guesses yet? Maybe we need more. Like him. Sounds vaguely familiar.
Starting point is 01:49:46 He's really working on a certain sound. A fashion book. I think this guy's from Manitoba. All my reasons. Give a hint. There are guesses coming in in the livestream. Blue Rodeo's a guess, but it's not blue rodeo. It's not blue rodeo. Bono from U2. No. It sounds familiar.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Oh, Tom Cochran. Yeah, there he is. Right there. Yeah. Tom Cochran. Tom Cochran, everybody. Future FOTM. I'm working hard on that. I really want to talk to Tom Cochran This is a must. I know a guy who plays guitar with him actually reach out What a waste of humble Howard know I just thought Howard humble thinks he knows him, but he doesn't return humbles text We can't even get him on humble and Fred right now. They played golf back in the day So they were fit the national together. Yeah, and we've you know, I know it's it's been tough But Alex Lifeson is another one of those rock Gods who played golf with Howard that were having trouble getting to respond to Howard's tech. So I don't know what's going on here
Starting point is 01:50:49 Okay, I'm gonna pass the baton Much like I would pass the baton this week to Ben Johnson or maybe even Donovan Bailey depending on the day and passing to get Andrew DeGrasse on next Let's see what he does in Paris first. Let's see what he does, but let's Hear the final jam from Rob Proust. Any words to say before we kick it? Nope. Oh, actually. Oh, actually I have words to say, but you go with it. You say your words. My words are basically that my very first favorite music after kids music and stuff like Sesame Street and Annemarie's, Hippo in my bathtub and stuff. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:51:22 was golden oldies from the 50s and we had all these cassettes from the gas station. So you fill up on gas, you get the cassette. And I loved it. I fell in love with Shantilly Lace, for example, by the Big Bopper. And this was one of my all time favorite songs as a young man listening to this cassette.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Let me play this before you start. Oh, he's got something on his phone. I got something on my phone. For anybody who's listening, they can guess what's coming up next. I got something on my phone. For anybody who's listening, they can guess what's coming up next. Okay, you want me to kick number one? Sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, Rockin' Robin Sweetie, sweetie Rockin' Robin We're really gonna rock tonight Sweetie, sweetie
Starting point is 01:52:29 Every little swallow, every chick to see Every little bird in the tunnel tree The wise are loud, the big black crow Flap of their wings singin' Goldberg's song Rockin' Robin Sweetie, sweetie Rockin' Robin Sweetie, sweetie Rockin' Robin We're really gonna rock tonight Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin.
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Starting point is 01:53:01 Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin. Rock and Robin when you played the bird is the word. It's like something really raw. They're like live recordings, right? Everybody's gathered around them, a couple of microphones, just making music. This was a guy named Bobby Day singing this song. He did not write it. It was written by a guy named Leon Renee, but his pseudonym was Jimmy Thomas. That's my not, my fact from Wikipedia. But my dad had this KTEL album called 25 Rock Revival Hits. Nice.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Came out when I was like, we had it in the house when I was like six. So when I was listening to Goofy singing Kukuburra, my dad had this rock and roll record. So this was like, you know, my introduction to rock was like Bill Haley, Little Richard and all that stuff. And this was on that record as well. So I've always loved the song. And that Bill Haley song you're referring to was the first theme song to Happy Days. Exactly. And that was one of my first favorite shows I used to live a few blocks away from where that was recorded what in Manhattan on the Upper West Side
Starting point is 01:53:50 It was recorded at this like high school gymnasium. Oh, yeah on 71st Street and It's just weird till I think they just went into the gym piled in the gear and just recorded, you know But so yeah, this is the original But when I was kid the next song you could play it was on the radio. It was a big hit as well All right. Let's let Bobby day take us to the He took it up a couple of times. He's only like six years old or something. Amazing. The band is so good. Was it last host we played Jackson 5? I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:54:55 No, I don't think so. Who did I kick that out with? Somebody recently we played Jackson 5. No, we didn't do any Jackson 5. I remember. I think. We've talked Michael. I know we talked Michael. Uh-huh. Hmm. OK, but what a run, too.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Jackson 5 had all those number ones in a row. I think Mariah Carey ended up breaking the record at some point. But I think their first five singles went to number one or something like that. Now I can't remember. I think this is a Michael Solo. It was Jackson's compilations.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Oh, and I feel like it might be just a Michael Solo, but it was 1972. It would be, he was like 14. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure where it was released. That was right when he did Ben as well. He did this thing for that. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:55:40 So I will tell you guys this when it comes to this song. As a dance dad, which I am now, a, uh, my, uh, eight turning nine year old is in competitive dance. And we go to these, uh, we go to these, uh, competitions all around Ontario and whatnot. And, uh, a very popular song is this one, especially with like eight and under. Yeah. There's nothing cuter than these little kids running around with like little feathers and doing this in the jazz competition. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:07 It's a huge song. It gets played every competition. Like the Michael version. I've heard both. I've heard the Michael and I've heard the original. This one is super cool too. The guy playing drums on it as a guy named Earl Palmer, who was a very famous session musician playing like lots of fifties and sixties hits and stuff like super groovy drummer. But fun. There's nothing on here but drums and a clavinet and a guitar. That's it, eh?
Starting point is 01:56:27 Yeah. Amazing. Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. And then listen to the keyboard come in. With the bass, it's like there's nothing, very simple. Yeah. I've gone to the definitive kick out the jam spreadsheet. Oh.
Starting point is 01:56:44 But it's not up to date. Uh oh. Cause Sean, oh. Anyway, recently I played a Jackson five song in Trouble Mike's, but I can't remember who it was with. But great choice, you have another mind blow here. Yeah, the last one I was looking through my music library for other Rock and Robin versions or whatever.
Starting point is 01:57:02 And this came up from something I had downloaded in the early 2010 there's a little mashup action for you. Take that girl talk. Holy smokes. I've actually, I think I've played this in the club. Very cool mix. Nice. What I can best for this gift of fingers, a little clue is always will tell you. That's so funny. It's so fun. Like it's great. It's quite actually well done. 1972 version is just a Michael song. You're right. Yeah. I mean, they toured it after and I would play it, but you're right.
Starting point is 01:58:00 It's just a Michael song. Cashing in on Ben, I think for sure. Yeah. Yep. Man, this is the early days of streaming though. Like, and like I used to go on these websites and like find albums to download and stuff. And there was very little streaming and like, you know, the early 2000s and there was this compilation of like mixes where people would do this kind of stuff, which was harder to do. Even that many years ago, there was less technology to like isolate stuff and remove. I still have a whole, like,
Starting point is 01:58:25 a external hard drive full of these kind of mashups. Like early, early mashups. Yeah, they're so fun. I got a whole, ACDC was a common one. There was one full of art of broken dreams and Oasis or something. There's so many, especially mixing the genres like this.
Starting point is 01:58:40 It was a big one. And it was so creative, like it was harder to do then. So, I mean, now you can do anything do anything with any. It's a little easier now to say the least. Yeah, well done, Mr Proust. So final jam coming up for Bob Willette. Oh, I'm gonna get in trouble for this one too. So here's the deal. You gotta, you gotta kill everything else wants to get in. Yeah, I'm a shit to stir. Of course, I sure so this we need to start this
Starting point is 01:59:06 and it's imperative that it's we were not talking over the opening and then we can talk to in the middle and we got to listen again to the to the bridge. Let's be quiet. Okay, Rob. Yep. What a fucking asshole. Is that the only bird content in this fucking song? No, no, no. There's more on the bridge. The bird is the word. Listen, listen, listen to the birds.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Listen. What an act of desperation. No, no. Creativity. Listen what an act of desperation. No, no creativity You can play weak and just say the loon there's a loon at the no no, that's only once this comes back I just want to hear the opening. I just love the idea. Look at this. It's only once. This comes back. I just want to hear the opening. I just love the idea. Look at this, it's spiritual. I often pray before I lay down by your side.
Starting point is 02:00:16 If you receive your calling before I awake, could I make it through the night? Brought the vinyl in just for the hell of it. Wow. Is this y'all rock? No, no, no. This is 85. Okay. Cool. The gang cherish. Remember the video on it with like the, so we get one. Just when I say turn it back up turn it back up please and thank you just be like a conductor yes be like sir andrew davis here's a couple mind blows this is cool in the gang of course uh you know uh celebration jungle boogie yep this is from their album 1985 album emergency their 16th album my god but God. Different cast, right? Like, I mean, but yeah,
Starting point is 02:01:05 I don't know how many original members. Jungle Boogie guys aren't on this. This is crazy. This is their 16th album. So in 1985, again, I always talk about kind of my musical and my dad starts DJing for Disjointed Unlimited here in Toronto. And he's doing weddings.
Starting point is 02:01:21 This is the number one wedding song by a mile. Like, and so I just, when I heard bird songs, I thought of the opening of the song and then the middle, like if you're talking about what inspired, what is a bird song? And when we get to the middle of it, where you hear it again, this, by the way, is certified gold, of course the album, but how about this jam? This song is the number one adult contemporary chart hit
Starting point is 02:01:48 of the 1980s. Is it really? It is, of the AC chart. Wow. This is the number one AC chart. Shocking, it's not like a Hall and Oates or something. Or Madonna, or how about that? There's so much great adult.
Starting point is 02:02:02 That is shocking. According to the internet. So it must be true. So here, hang on here. Let's listen. There they are again. There's birds. Listen, I hear birds.
Starting point is 02:02:14 No, we get it. Fucking bobble-edged. He's making a mockery of these topics, right? I am not. Like this is not a bird jam all because you got background. There's birds in it. So this guy. And I'm kicking out the bird is the word, bird on the fucking wire. Like this is not a bird jam all because you got back So This can't get out the bird is the word bird on the fucking wire. Just two on the fucking nose
Starting point is 02:02:30 You're not creative enough. That's all I hear birds there are I think there's more birds in this arm than the pearl jam song though. Well, yeah, that's another argument Either a bird jams. Yeah started strong on purpose No, I knew like I would get some I would get some love because of the first one. Look, the B side of this, check this out. So this comes out in 85. And the- He sounds like a bird right there, that guy.
Starting point is 02:02:54 Yeah, he does. Kevin, Canada Kev says you're disqualified. Canada Kev has no vote. He has no vote. There's no vote. My mind blow is just the B side. I just thought it was a pretty cool B side. All right, let's kick that fucking B side right now. Let's do it. Let's do that. Even though it's not on the same album, this was the
Starting point is 02:03:11 B side. People used to put B side songs that weren't on the record because you want to buy it. Right. Oh my God, it's Joanna. Yes. Really? It's the B side. Yes, but it was a hit already. It was a hit already too! It was already a hit! And so they threw it on there! They want to sell more of it! Yeah!
Starting point is 02:03:28 Crazy, right? Joanna, I love you! Now this sounds like Yacht Rock for sure! Yeah, yeah, yeah! Never wonder, like, if somebody, I don't know, the neighbor's in the driveway and they just hear three guys singing Joanna. Like, they don't hear the music. By the way, Cool in guys Joanna like they don't hear the music by the way cool in the gang emergency Which doesn't feature Joanna the other single was fresh fresh cheese
Starting point is 02:03:52 So excited. Yeah, so that was my when I when here's the thing You want me to be a part of this with a first thing that came to mind when it came to? being a Bird song the first thing was was was the Flintstone song. And then this was the second one. I swear to God was cherished. So there you go. So whether or not you approve or not, Mr Toronto Mike, it's from the heart. What do I matter? It's only my fucking show. Bob will let okay. I want to hear. I want to hear the only job I have right now and I don't even have a file. You
Starting point is 02:04:23 don't even pay me. I come here for two beers. That's it. Did you not get a wireless speaker from an eras last? Last a while. I got that like a year ago, dude. It's fine. It's great. What about your history of Toronto Maple Leafs baseball? But I did. You know what? I did get paid with that last time too. Thank you. Didn't you get lasagna last time? No, I did not get lasagna last time. He did. Were you offered it? No, that's fine. That's fine. He got it last. I think he got we always bring you oh yeah, it's new york. He has a long. Well, you know, he brings it to his sister here anyways. So cool again. Yeah, I don't know how many original members
Starting point is 02:04:55 are here on the sixteenth album, which I brought by the way, if you're watching this is the sixteenth album. I can't believe they had sixteen albums wow wow. This is not a bird song, but the other one cherish so during the musical interlude while we wait for Bob to get back from the Lou here, I'm going to play a little bit. I'm going to play the Bob Cole clip over. I think in my head it sounds good. I want to hear how it sounds. Oh, he's doing another verse here.
Starting point is 02:05:23 Are you trying to play Bob Cole over cool in the game? Yeah. So in the pre-game show I was playing Freebird by Leonard Skinner. And it sounded amazing over Freebird because Freebird's got this kind of a sad-ish kind of... It's about dying or whatever. But this song with Bob Cole, I'm going to try it in a moment. You have another mind blow, right? Do I?
Starting point is 02:06:04 I don't remember what it is. How can you not remember your mind? around the net. Wayne Ames up the... Gilmore! Soulja! And he's won it! In a second overtime period! All of them! Oh my! I'm getting annihilated on the chat. What a night tonight. It's a good thing I don't care. For the Turrata boys. Very nice. Oh, my buddy Jose's on here now.
Starting point is 02:06:47 He's going nuts. Oh, Jesus. Come on, man. Grade 17. That's inside baseball for you and me buddy. This is my this is my oh
Starting point is 02:07:16 oh that I just wanted to play this. This was the number one. This is the song that it knocked out for number one. That's all. I thought it'd be fun. Stings on this song. That was it. Hang on, yeah. Oh, no, wait.
Starting point is 02:07:39 It peaked at number two. It never made it because Money for Nothing was number one. It never made it to number one, but it's I have a director. You used to be a program director in yes in right yeah and Toronto yeah and Hamilton and St Catharines. Yeah, would you play this song even though it has the f slur in it? Yes, of course, well, not of course, yeah, I would otherwise. I wouldn't have until until somebody complains. Yeah, it was like I would play anything, especially at proud FM and he was a big conversation when I was at proud FM about it.
Starting point is 02:08:08 Look, there are people in the in. I would I would consult my friends in the LGBT community who and we had we had a community. We had a we had a community board and if people told me I'd not to play it, I would not play it, but generally speaking, I would yeah. Also, we used to play really, really like, I mean, we on the edge on the live dares, we would play all kinds of yeah, but the big difference between fuck. I want to fuck you like an animal. Yeah, and the other word. Yeah, fair enough.
Starting point is 02:08:41 Yep. It's one word and look if he repeats it actually three times, but then again, a fairy tale of New York has the same. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if you know what I would we live in. We live in a different time. Yeah, I don't know. We live in a less tolerant time. I'm curious if he could play it in Kingston now. We were playing it, but I think we probably played an edit version. I think I think I think we actually, you know, not believed it, but just like silence to that. I think that
Starting point is 02:09:21 we live in a less tolerant time for music, which is weird because you think that we're more advanced now, but music that was played 40 years ago. There's a lot more like interesting weird shit than what kids are listening You're talking about terrestrial radio and most people are consuming music uncensored Well now kids could get everything exactly but they get everything uncensored now, so nothing matters anymore No, but that's you know what even when you watch something on Disney Plus or something There's a there's often a warning saying that this was made during a time where these things were okay. Yeah. And we are aware that they're not anymore, but we're going to show it in its true in its original form.
Starting point is 02:09:53 So at least you acknowledge it like, Hey, this is the way people talk then. Right. And here we go. But like even a dude like George Michael in the eighties was like, he's singing a song about sex and there's more sexual music. Come on. It's a way more like like explicit things now, which is bullshit to me. But the fact that now they're hearing wet ass pussy, you're going to go to that. George Michael was like sex is natural. Sex is good. Not everybody does it, but everybody should.
Starting point is 02:10:16 And the kids were like, I don't know what that means, but that's kind of cool. And like when I was a little kid, there were songs on the radio. Paul Inca had a song like singing about abortion and you're like, what the fuck? Well, there was some, well, you know, yeah, brick, brick, brick, but what about like, you know, she trades in her Bobby socks for her, like her, her, her, her, her tights or whatever. Like you were talking about like young women they were singing about. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:37 Yeah. So definitely the times I believe in FOTM, it was creamy in her jeans. Seriously. When they walked her way with, she had a good birth song. You collaborated with her on a church of trees. I was thinking, well, we've done other songs together too. She had a good bird song that I totally forgot about too. They had an early Rough Trade song called Birds of a Feather, which was a super cool song. Lots of good bird songs. That's why I'm so disappointed
Starting point is 02:10:56 in Bob because he, so many good bird songs are going to be left on the cutting board. But he fought outside of the bird cage, which is okay. Because thank you Mr. Bird. He's got birds in the world and bird is the word. Okay, so I'm gonna kick out my final bird jam now, which will unlike Bob's last two jams. Is it Blackbird? It should be Blackbird. It's actually a fucking, and this is the song
Starting point is 02:11:16 I actually was not on my list, but then Rob Proust took my closer. Oh, so you moved. So I got a new closer. He stepped over. You know this is Sting from The Police? I've heard of him. Do you know that?
Starting point is 02:11:28 And I've heard the band before, yeah. That's a mind blow for you right there. Because it's Sting. There we go. There you go. See I was going to do that. Listen to the... It's a click track.
Starting point is 02:11:38 No it's not. Or is it his flick? Patience, Patience human creature. in the dead of night. Take these sunken eyes and learn to see all your life. You are only waiting for this moment to be free. Blackbird, fly. Blackbird, fly. Into the line of a dark black night. Not a click track, Rob Proust. Tapping of his foot. Tapping of his foot. The whole way through this song.
Starting point is 02:12:38 It sounds like a snap. Paul McCartney. Isn't it perfect? Wild. I think it's wild. Now this was inspired, it's a true absolute bonafide bird jam because this is Blackbird inspired, two things inspired this song. Paul McCartney wrote it, Paul McCartney performs it.
Starting point is 02:12:54 It is essentially for all intents and purposes, this is a solo Paul McCartney song, but of course as per their deal, was credited to Lennon McCartney and is a Beatles song on the White album. Okay, 1968, double album from a little band from Liverpool called the Beatles. Now he heard. A blackbird in India, he hears it, the call you can hear.
Starting point is 02:13:16 This is really a blackbird right there. Way more significant than some fucking seagull and some cool. Several seagulls. I heard those. OK, so also, though, this is kind of important. There was racial tension in the United States in the South, and that also inspired this song. So the melody, the song, the tune, the music. Do you know what inspired this particular melody?
Starting point is 02:13:43 Let me play for you. Something. Do you know what inspired this particular melody? Let me play for you Something Can you name this composer Sounds like Bach Guys are good. This guy's good. It is a fashion balkan skid row. I Nice! This sounds like a Skid Row tune. 18 in life! Were you part of the Skid Row discourse in the FOTM group?
Starting point is 02:14:11 Yes, I met his dad one time when he first joined Skid Row. I was on a plane sitting next to his dad and he's like, my son's just joined this band. From Peterborough, right? It was weird. That's wild because I only know Skid Row songs of Sebastian Bach on lead vocals. I don't know anything before or since. This is before. This is Bach before. Before Skid Row.
Starting point is 02:14:30 Alright, so this is Johann Sebastian Bach. It's called, pardon my French, it's called Bourrée in E minor. Bourrée, Pavel Bourrée, whose brother was married to the woman from Full House. Candice Cameron Whose brother was in growing pains of Alan Thicke who I once met whose son is Robin Thicke who is a bird. Yep. Yep, Robin Okay Robin So up to the sky as teenagers Paul McCartney and George Harrison would try to show off their guitar Playing of this classical song here and the melody and the bass notes
Starting point is 02:15:05 and that basically was adapted and became the opening of Blackbird. So this song inspired the opening of Blackbird. The first three notes of the song were transitioned into the opening guitar riff, which was inspired by that's here. Yeah, I think that's pretty fucking cool. Now I mentioned that there's a lot of the new Taylor Swift song being played in this house right now. But before Swift dropped her new album,
Starting point is 02:15:28 there was another pop stars album that was getting played like crazy. And here is one of the songs on that album. ["Blood, Blood, Blood, Blood"] Blackbird singing in the dead of night. Take these broken wings and learn to fly pay attention to the background Yeah, the everything is it is from the Paul McCartney track Oh, did she just take it just put a little her lyrics that's foot tapping the folder. Yeah, apparently he approved it, of course
Starting point is 02:16:04 Blackbird singing in the dead of night Take these sunken eyes and learn to see All your life You are only waiting for this moment to be free Blackbird, blackbird, fly. It's pretty cool. The vocal arrangement is really nice. I have a quote from Paul McCartney. He recorded himself and sent it over to me.
Starting point is 02:16:31 Here's Paul McCartney. What's he say? He goes, I think she does a magnificent version of it and reinforces the civil rights message that inspired me to write the song in the first place. I think Beyonce has done a fab version, and I would urge anyone who has not yet heard it to check it out you're gonna love it can you do Bob McCartney now her harmonies are very try to wonder it's like Stevie Wonder
Starting point is 02:16:56 though like he layered his voice like this too and it's really cool but I think it's very interesting that this instrumental everything but the lyrics in the words here is the original Beatles Yeah, so this is Beyonce karaoke is basically what it is. Yeah I mean like she's single would have sent her those stems or yeah She could have got him like I mean they exist and you can make them these days. Oh, yeah, I suppose yeah Yeah, it's not as clean when you yeah them, but yeah Anybody listen to the country album. I listen to it. Yeah
Starting point is 02:17:24 You know what she changes the words this is it So she completely changes the words of Jolene So we're Dali's Jolene was a please don't take your van like begging like, please don't take my man, even though you can yeah she's like Get the fuck out of here. This is my this is my man. Get your fucking mitts Get your own goddamn man, like she completely spins that song, but can she get a song of Dolly Parton's granddaughter? Goddaughter, I wanna say that right, Goddaughter, who's Miley Cyrus. Okay, lots going on there in this pop universe of ours.
Starting point is 02:17:55 The new album, by the way, by Beyonce, which features that song Blackbird, is called Cowboy Carter, and pre-Swifty that was getting a lot of spins in this house. My last thing, not really a mind blow, but I thought it was interesting. We mashed up those two songs earlier. So this is kind of a mashup that was released
Starting point is 02:18:12 on a Beatles album called Love. Oh, oh yeah. From Vegas. Yeah, the Cirque du Soleil. Yeah. I have that album, it's really good. It's cool, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:22 A remix album they call it, 2006. Yeah. Give remix album they call it, 2006. Give it a moment because I think it's neat what they do to this song. So basically Blackbird is the introduction to yesterday Just picture a bunch of Quebec quah people good being all weird I'm gonna see that next week. I'm driving the last day of the month. I'm driving in Montreal I'll be looking for that without a doubt Gentlemen bird jams is over Rob started slow then picked it up Bird Jams is over. Rob started slow then picked it up. I did start slow. Goofy was good. Bob started hot and then slowed it down. I started with cartoons and we kept going. I think I was consistently good throughout. I think I'm the winner here. But do we have any idea of what our topic will be next toast? It's going to be in May. We haven't really discussed it at all. No, we haven't discussed it. You don't have that. You don't on your drive here. You're not thinking about what you might want to do for, uh, for me. Like, what about things like days of the week or like there's songs with, you know,
Starting point is 02:19:28 particular day? I mean, that's eight days a week. Yeah. Or like names of days of the week. I don't know. Um, to be, uh, what have you done? Uh, not that we need to, but there's like the whole, it's gonna be my, like, is there a boy band thing? Like, I don't know. Like, may you're just trying to make Andy happy May There's hooray hooray. It's the first of May outdoor screwing starts today. So we can say fucking on this show No, I know what I like to say it, you know
Starting point is 02:19:55 I like to Bob and I are gonna throw down after eight days by the Toronto tree. Oh, yeah First day of May there's a blue rodeo. We have to Absolutely. Well gentlemen, I'm going to let the Beatles take us into lowest of the low. We'll discuss our topic for May. But about anything with the word may in it. Well, I hear more birds. That's so perfect. Look at that. Good job. It's my favorite birth sound of all time. So that's a Robin. It's my grandma's birdcage. She's got a little wind up bird thing in it. That's your grandma? Well, she doesn't sound like this anymore, but yeah. That was her. She had,
Starting point is 02:20:31 you said this little toy bird cage thing from France. I loved it. How long do you think we went today? Long time. Over two. Yeah. Well over two. This is like our longest one ever. For sure. 221 or something like that. The birds deserve it. We took a long time to get to it too though. We did. It was a lot of lead up. Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-bird, bird, bird, because the bird is the word. And that brings us to the end of our 1,476th show. Should I do something special for 1,500?
Starting point is 02:21:01 Why not? If you got something in mind. Let's kick out more bird jams. You can follow me on Twitter and Blue Sky. I'm at Toronto Mike Bob is at Bob Willett. Give this man a job. Rob Bruce is at Rob Bruce X. I'm on Substack now too.
Starting point is 02:21:15 I'm trying Substack out. You've heard of Substack? Okay, what does that mean? Are you writing? Yeah, I've heard of it. Of course. I'm living under a rock over here. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:21:23 You're in a basement. Basement dollar. Yeah, I'm bringing some audio stuff and like I'm going to try some musical things. Do people have to pay to read a substack? You can, but you don't. Mine is not paid at all. So it's so far it's just a checking it out. A lot of people start in the substacks, but also I noticed a lot of people abandoning the subset like a lot of starts. So you got to keep with it though. Exactly. I'm trying. It's like a podcast. So many people start a podcast. I heard of a podcast called Bob's basement. I heard one fine and Loretta fucking Switt was on that show.
Starting point is 02:21:48 He's not even working and he's not recording new episodes. Like really. I was on that show once too. I was on that show once. I'm gonna go back and listen to your episode. I did listen to yours. I don't miss you on, I don't miss you or Al Greggo on your many podcast appearances. I get jealous. I'm like, how did I lose my exclusive? Oh yeah. I heard you had a podcast recently and no shout out to the fact that you're doing toast on Toronto Mike. Not even once. I know I should have mentioned it. It
Starting point is 02:22:13 hurts me. I'm going to mention it on my podcast. Do you not know I'm going to listen? You should be shouting it from the rafters. Shout out. Much love to all who made this possible. That's Bob's Basement. New sponsor. Hey, there was a question. Where did you get the Straight Outta Burlington t-shirt? Some website where you can go on and like make whatever you want. And you pick your town and I thought it was super cool. I would say Straight Outta Mimico, but I don't live there. Exactly. Straight Outta New Toronto. I made it last summer for Burlington's 250th anniversary
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Starting point is 02:22:56 and Ridley Funeral Home. You ready for this? See you all on Saturday when I do a deep dive, the deep dive you didn't know you need, the deep dive into Brighton Rock. That's on Saturday. See you all then. And I'll play this guitar just the best that I can Maybe I'm not and maybe I am But who gives a damn because Everything is coming up
Starting point is 02:23:36 Rosie and Grey Yeah the wind is cold but the smell of snow Warms me today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine It's cold but the smell of snow warms me today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine It won't go away Cause everything is rosy gray

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