Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST30: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1524

Episode Date: July 21, 2024

In this 30th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out jams they discovered from film or television. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Br...ewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada, The Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball Team and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I can't believe you were in here. It's like a magic trick. Coolest thing ever. Ha ha ha. Just toast. I'm gonna think about it. We'll talk about it. F-O-T-M's, do you know what time it is?
Starting point is 00:00:12 It's two, one. Toast time. Toast! Featuring Stu Stone, Cam Gordon and Toronto Mike. What? Is that insulting? Sorry, Stonemike.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Yeah, just, no. Does that offend you guys to hear that opening? No, it's just weird. Is it weird? Yeah. Is it funny weird or offensive weird? Yeah, it's funny weird. You know what?
Starting point is 00:00:42 It's, well, I'm really hot here, aren't I? There we go. Yeah. Stand by. It's uh, well, I'm really hot here. It's something I don't know. I think, I think we need a new one. That's all. You know, or formerly even mentioned them. That's fine. You have a FOTM. You have an FOTM cast theme. Yeah. I don't know what's going on there. All right. You have a special theme for the FOTM cast, right? Yeah, they got their own song. Tyler made that though. That's a cool song.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Somebody else made it, he didn't. I could make us a new song. Welcome, make us a song. Welcome to episode 1524 of Toronto Mic'd, proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, a fiercely independent craft brewery who believes in supporting communities, good times and brewing amazing beer. Order online for free local home delivery in the GTA or get it at an LCBO. I hear they're gonna be open soon. Palma Pasta. Enjoy the taste of fresh homemade Italian pasta and entrees from Palma Pasta in Mississauga and Oakville.
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Starting point is 00:02:04 for this 30th episode of Toast, it's Rob Bruce and Bob Willett. So Rob, summarize briefly off the top of the, what just happened because that's never happened and I don't know how it happened, but it happened. Tell us what happened. I think the last two times that I arrived, you two were standing out by the tree just conversing. We have done so.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Yes. Staring at each other as I arrived. We like to wait for you. It was a beautiful thing. And then we all went in together into the basement to begin. So today I arrived and Mike was out there alone and I was like, oh, I beat Bob, I can't believe it. So I pulled up and we stood outside under the tree
Starting point is 00:02:35 chatting and not chatting too much because if it's not on tape, it didn't happen. That's right. But we were waiting for Bob and then all of a sudden you got a text message. Well then no, what I did is I checked my phone. Like I didn't even hear the notifications. I just checked my phone and it said at your side door.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And then I said to Rob, I said, Bob says he's at my side door. And I looked at the side door, no one's there. And then I opened the door and I'm like, Bob is in the basement alone and you and I are out there waiting for the guys. So welcome guys. So yeah, I, I, I texted you to say I was going to be early because it looked like the traffic for the Indy hadn't quite started yet. Romantic traffic. Yes, the romantic traffic and I come here, I tech at
Starting point is 00:03:15 1050. I said, Matt, your side door, the door as I'm as I'm texting, as I'm texting, the door becomes a jar. It was a jar. It was, it wasn't a jar when I I'm texting the door becomes a jar. It was a jar. It wasn't a jar when I arrived. I don't think I left it a jar. Okay. So I, uh, I can't doors jar come in, come sit down. I hear the family upstairs on 10 minutes early. I'm just sitting here hanging out and a Bob must Mike must've been upstairs. Yeah. It was just, he went out the front door as I went out the front door as he came in the side door. I'm a magician. You are. It was magic. Oh, okay. A lot of ground. So, uh, and now Bob, could you succinctly, you were a, once a broadcaster, could you say, and we're going to talk about that,
Starting point is 00:03:52 but can we use succinctly tell us what is the theme of today's jam kicking on toast? The 30th toast, the 30th toast theme is songs that we discovered via a soundtrack. Okay. So I interpreted it as songs we discovered via a TV show or movie. Is that different from what you're saying? Um, it opens, it opens a little up a little bit more because then you're getting into like Billy Vera and the beaters from from family ties, which there's no soundtrack for family ties,
Starting point is 00:04:20 although there is a fan soundtrack for friends. So you know, and shout out to fifty four forty who every time made a couple of bucks from that. Yes, they did. So Rob Bruce, how did you interpret that? Did you interpret it the Bob way or the microwave? I interpreted the Bob way. The, it has to be on an actual soundtrack. Yeah. And I, and I feel like the first thing that we sort of said was because so many songs are hits from films. Yes. It was more like, what did you hear in a film that you then loved? But then it doesn't have, you can hear songs in films
Starting point is 00:04:48 that don't make it on the soundtrack. So for me, I'll be honest, what I did was I thought about this small collection of, from the Bob Willett soundtrack, DJ Bingo Bob soundtrack, singles, the 90s, The Crow, Reality Bites, Forrest Gump soundtrack, Saturday night fever, train spotting. Like these are, and then like I have all these we could talk about.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Okay. So two of my three jams do satisfy the whole soundtrack, but one of my songs, and maybe I'll do that one on the top, is a song I heard in a TV show and then it sort of clicked. Like I had no one of it, but I didn't really know. It's the same experience. So then we will get to our jams. Good to see you too. But I want to give a special shout out to FOTM Hall of Famer, Lieve Fumka, who has just
Starting point is 00:05:35 been discharged from Princess Margaret Hospital following a successful stem cell transplant. So congratulations Lieve a fun guy. She said this is like an, uh, your second birthday, like you have the birthday born and the day you get your, uh, stem cell transplant. So, uh, that's, and I understand because I just saw a note from her at live dot Toronto, Mike. Dot com. She is joining us this morning. So we'll dedicate this to FOTM hall of famer, leave a film coming amazing. And there's another FOTM Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I got a shout out because today is Peter Gross's 74th birthday. Wow. And he's the voice that people don't know. When you listen to that opening of toast and it talks about Cam and Stu, whoever they are, that is the great Peter Gross. Amazing. OK, now I want to ask Bob how his visit to Newfoundland was. It was terrific.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Thank you very much. I literally landed last night at a 10 o'clock last night and have some friends out there now. So this was the first time bringing the whole bringing the family out there. So the, the Laura and my two daughters came out with us. My father-in-law was, is there, he's coming back today you know what it, and I went a little further afield, not just in St. John's still all on the Avalon peninsula there. Um, but it's just beautiful. I brought, got brought some things back for you guys. Well, is it
Starting point is 00:06:55 screech? No, no, I, I, yeah, actually I did. I didn't, I only, I only paid, I used flare airlines for the first time. Yes, there you go. There's some new fee screech right there. Yep. I had plenty of it whilst I was there. Um, the, uh, um, flare airlines is, uh, as you never know, right? What was the one that just got shut down? There was one that was super, I don't know whatever they are anyways. Yeah. These are the discount. Yeah. So my whole family flew there. I'm going to, I'll be, I'll tell you like, but we could only do carry ons, um, uh, for 1800 bucks return for everybody, for all four of us returned to St. John's.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That's really, really affordable. But you go at weird times and you know, anyways, uh, whilst I was there, a friend of mine, uh, who has been on the, uh, Bob's basement podcast, Larry Foley, he was the lead singer of it in a band called the punters and the punters were pretty big. They were, uh, came up around the same time as great big C in the on the East Coast toward around open for Spirit of the West that kind of thing he's the singer-songwriter now and he knows everybody there and everybody knows him so he actually took me to the radio
Starting point is 00:07:56 station there K rock which is owned by stingray which used to be new cap which was Newfoundland Newfoundland Capital Radio and they and the boom people there are the boom people. Yeah. So the program director there as a guy named Brian, not Brian, a guy named Mike Campbell, uh, and he is OTM. Mike Campbell, not that FOTM. Oh, really? Sorry. Uh, cause oh, he's like a Halifax guy. I got my, uh, who was your FOTM? Mike Campbell. What was his story? Well, he's the, uh, much music. Oh, Mike and Mike. No, not the Mike and Mike guy. No different. Newfoundland. So this Mike Campbell, he's actually, he's actually Mike Critch. He's he's he's Mark Critch's brother.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So, um, the radio last name, there might be, well, his dad. So if you ever watched son of a critch, their dad was like this legendary, uh, Canadian bro, legendary Newfoundland broadcaster. So he didn't want to step in dad's, you know, be in that shadow. I gather sort of like how Emilio Estevez did not become a Sheen. Right. Yeah. To not. Yes. Yeah. So same, same kind of idea. So he's the group program director there gave me the tour of the stations. They've got three stations there and I got some stuff for you guys from, from the fine people, from the foreign people there. Amazing. By the way, quickly, uh, there's a,
Starting point is 00:09:04 of course there's Mike Campbell was the Tom Petty guitarist. Yes, that's right. So there's a lot of my Campbells. Thank you very much. I keep okay. Yeah, it's all really. Yeah, it's all it's okay rock rock stuff. Yeah. Okay. Well, thankfully that's not only rock. Right. K rock rolling papers. Yeah. Okay. Shout out to Canada. Can't there you go. So yeah, I got you know, you're very welcome And you know what what I love about that station is there we had this great conversation about Local programming and how they still I guess they do have voice tracks But when you hear people, you know, they're from the somebody there. Oh, they're there by they are, you know
Starting point is 00:09:39 They are and they also do a show called home homebrew on Sunday afternoons Which is all traditional Irish and Newfoundland music, and it has like a fifty share like fifty. If you have a radio on on Sunday in May in new on the Avalon Peninsula, it's on that show. So fifty percent of all radios on at that moment are tuned into that correct wild. Yeah, it's amazing. And those numbers are insane and it's because it's local and it works sure and there you are and it's and actually radio still really works in New Finland for a lot of reasons, I'm sure. But, uh, it's, uh, it was neat to do the tour.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And I thought of you guys. I want to say, just that this screech came from Heather Bambrick, who's a proud Newfoundlander and a great singer. And she was at jazz FM for many years. Yeah, I know that name. Yeah, it's terrific. If anybody ever anybody ever goes, I highly rec, I have so many things to recommend. It was great with the family and how many days we out there? I've seven. I went Saturday to Saturday. Yeah, I went Saturday, Saturday. We had an Airbnb about a 10 minute walk from Water Street and George Street. Um, we hit up the bars, not my kids, of course, but the bars. Oh, I, here's the thing. Everywhere I go, I my kids, of course, but it was the bars. Oh, I here's the thing. Everywhere I go, I do pick up, I pick up the accent, right? No, I go to Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I pick up the accent. My wife's like, you're gonna, somebody's gonna kill you like Rob Ford. So yeah, exactly. But my, my grandfather, my grandfather, he's from Bon Bay. So he's actually, I'm actually a quarter Newfoundlander. So I am. Yeah, my grandfather's tell I knew right away, so I am. I am. I guess I have a spiritual connection with that place. Man, I want to go with you and I want to go to Newfoundland. It's so great then. Oh my God, we played out there lots of times. I bet you did. Yeah, I mean, I I voted George Street Festival. I know
Starting point is 00:11:18 no, never not that one. I like how the white stripes play there. Didn't they just hit the one chord or that a different province? Remember they were going to play all the provinces. The no really than Jack White. They were at one of the problems. I thought it was Newfoundland. Like that's played one chord.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And then just to say he played, I'm going to say PEI was that one. I would think, I would think that was because I can drive to PEI, but I, it's long time to drive to Newfoundland, but okay, it's a long time to drive to PEI too by can I give you, can you, will you do a, an accent joke for me? Oh, I'm gonna make you do this I'll get you have to read something. Okay, okay, so say Say that he's wearing glasses. I say rise up. No, so say that sentence rise up lights Say it again rise up lights Congratulations, you just said razor blades in an Australian accent
Starting point is 00:12:01 Do it again rise up. Oh rise, rise of blades. Right. Right. Rise of life. I love the I love the act. Just have that on your phone and your notes. You do one for me now. What's he doing? I'm not wearing my glasses. I mean, he can't see.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I can't see. OK. Likewise, if you say space. Oh, so space ghettos, space ghettos and spice girls in Scottish. Save it for later. Save it for later. OK, so I actually featured on this soundtrack space ghettos. We'll get to it. Sounds like all right.
Starting point is 00:12:34 So I yeah, mid year show that for 10 minutes here. So, OK, sorry, that was my job. Rob, you be patient because I got more Bob questions. OK, that's a lot of Bob off. I want to know Bob, too. OK, so I need to talk to Bob because, uh, months ago, Bob revealed to us that chorus had said goodbye Bob, because Bob was the program director for a couple of, uh, chorus owned stations in Kingston, Ontario, not Kingston, Jamaica. So hold onto the pathway there. So the news of course, that just came down is that there's like, I, I, you'll tell me, but
Starting point is 00:13:03 I don't believe there's anyone left that works for chorus Kingston. There are a couple reporters and a couple salespeople, but generally speaking, there will be no local news on the global television. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:13:21 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no my Monica and Stu Monica, Monica and Jesse was canceled. Derek Balduck, who has been on the air of there for like twenty or fifteen years. He was doing afternoon drive great broadcaster. They all got now. That being said, I do know it was a union shop, so I can say not necessarily for certain, but I can say Derek was taken care of, which was nice to hear. I've spoken to him a couple
Starting point is 00:13:44 of the other guys. I don't know how well they were taking care of, but yeah, man, they blew everybody out on one day. So were you the, you were the canary in the coal mine. I'm just wondering, when did you, I knew you realize this might be happening last year. I knew this might be happening. That's when I started the second, that no, I didn't. When you started city, I was like, I got to get a backup gig and maybe teaching you thought chorus might just voice track and do away with like local radio in Kingston, Ontario. And Peterborough, Kingston, Cornwall, Brockville.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Yeah, all of it. Wow. All of it. And it's gonna happen. And hopefully they sell them. Hopefully they do. Look, I have had it. How many John Poles are out there?
Starting point is 00:14:21 I saw John Poles say, oh, by the way though, John Paul, I emailed you and you haven't emailed me back. It's been over a week. I can step in. Please do. Because I have OTM. He knows, I know. I mentioned you in the email saying, Hey, you, and we, and I applied for a job with him many years ago and it just didn't, it wasn't the right job for me. Uh, but they're looking for, yeah. Uh, yeah. So you can, you reach out to John Paul for me, but you're right. He is one of those guys, the local guy. There's only so many of Durham's got a
Starting point is 00:14:44 bunch of stations they've bought from bell. There's a chorus though. I'm going to go out on a limb here and I'm going to say I had on a I can I have on a very good authority that they're probably gonna have to buy have to like file for bankruptcy protection. They're down to eleven cents a share and I know somebody who knew somebody quite well and it's like how many weeks ago did I text you to say that that they're gonna have to they're gonna go bankrupt and it hasn't happened yet it was true I texted Mike said not don't go public with this course is going bankrupt yeah and I went public
Starting point is 00:15:15 with it right away as you should and you know what I feel so bad for some really really good people and no it sucks for. So why don't we get some investors and buy CF and why I know right. But do we want to invest in a sun setting industry? I honestly think we're better to do what we're doing right now. So it's funny you say that I've been, that's what I've been dealing with is figuring out what's next. And you know, my, my, uh, my, my package ran out early in June and my severance package, if you will, and it's done, it's done. That's good. You know why you got paid before the bankruptcy file. That's true. I am. Yeah, that's true. You dodged a bullet. I did.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I got it all and they, they, you know, I had to fight a little bit for it and they took care of me and then, you know, I start this gig on Wednesday dealing poker at the C. I started on Wednesday. That's exciting. But in the meantime, I'm riding the Pogie boys. I'm gonna take advantage of what I've ever done that. Oh, I this is the second time I've had to okay because of radio, but it is interesting. You know, why invest in a but doesn't matter what your wife makes. I don't actually know the rule. No, no, no, no, no. Household income. No, no, it's not household. Thank God it's not household income. No,
Starting point is 00:16:26 it's based on you get a certain amount of money up to sixty percent, like sixty percent of what you were making like capped it to a cap, capped it like like sort of like maternity. It's exactly the same amount of money. It is exactly the same amount of money as per as per as per it. Okay, good on you, man. You take advantage of it. Yeah, I'm taking advantage of it. I think I'm qualified for forty some odd weeks and yeah, so we'll see it makes things a little tighter. This this this trip to Newfoundland was on the books, so we said we're just going to do it anyway and now we'll see
Starting point is 00:16:56 what happens man like I'm excited to get these updates every month. Well, I did finally. I did finally do a another episode of Bob's Basement by the way. There was a tell us the new angle because I listened and it was different yes I enjoyed that first return oh thank you really good thank you but the one he just said like hey I'm sorry I've been gone back here's what happened okay that was my little 10 minute my little monologue I've dropped another one with somebody who happened to be a friend of mine and the angle actually kind of came from Mark Weisblat, he's taking full credit on WhatsApp chat.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Weisblatt at TMLX 15. And I had already had this conversation. Look, Weisblatt pushed it over the edge for me because I thought about doing this. I will still do quote-unquote celebrity interviews and have people like Loretta Switt hopefully and then Dee Snider on the... Harry Shearer? I'm still waiting. I know me too. Trust me. like Loretta, sweat hopefully, and then D Snyder on the parents here, that's still waiting. I know me too. Trust me. Uh, uh, people like that on, but however, I, uh, I think there's an angle and, and wise, but kind of narrowed it down more about Jen Xers, people like myself, uh, around my age who had six, I ticked it, who had real success early.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Like we did well in our twenties and thirties. I was a program director of radio stations, a regional program director in my early thirties. I was, you know, I had a lot of people reported to me and now what do we do now? Where are we? Um, now the industries are crumbling around us and my friend, Jamie Galoro, who I went to high school with, ironically, I've known her for years. She worked for Nelvana, which is owned by chorus and she was given the package to like out you go so I thought she'd be a great one she's so she's online creating content right now calling it unemployed girl summer wow and she's doing a whole bunch of stuff
Starting point is 00:18:38 and it's like okay so what do we do now and I think that it's maybe it's a little too niche but I think there's a lot of creative people a lot ofers, especially a lot of people around my age who are right now in industries that are either, I believe, what you say, the sun is setting on an industry or because the technology it's changing. And I think that can be true of people at any point in their life, especially as you're aging. Right. Exactly. The industry is contracting. Yeah. Yeah. So here we are. So that was my first episode back and, uh, Jamie shared very openly about, about her experience about what happened. And I'm, um, and I actually listened to that episode while kayaking the Humber river.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Oh, wow. Amazing. How is that kayak working out for you? Love it. I've been out, uh, five times in the last two and a half weeks. Uh, no, it feels great. Yeah. So I've been what I like about it because I can put it on my back and bike to a place where I drop it into the water. Oh wow. I strategically pick different drop spots to see where I want to explore.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Cause I'm only good for like eight kilometers or whatever. It's hard work. So then time too, like, so it's like, I'm good for eight. So I did the Humber river that day, but then I did a Marie Curtis drop and I see, I'm going to do a, it's called Trillium Park, right by Ontario place. They have a great place to drop it in. So I'm basically just planning out good for you now.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It's just about finding the time because you need a good couple of hours to do this and a weather quarter. Yeah, because with a bike ride, cause I bike every day, but for a bike ride, I'll pretty much go out. And I think almost everything except maybe not an active like a thunderstorm. Maybe I'll take a pass or whatever, but the kayaks a whole different story. I think if there's a threat of thunderstorms, I'm like, it's not worth the risk. So, uh, but thank you. Uh, thank you again for guys for contributing to the that's kayak update. We got the chorus update. Uh, where does it end? Is anyone safe at
Starting point is 00:20:18 chorus? I mean, we had a FOTM Colleen rush home, uh, talk about her retirement here, her retirement. So she was retired. But, but then of course you understand that I believe all two person morning shows at chorus are going to be by the end of the summer will be one person morning shows. Like I've noticed one person from each duo, uh, suddenly stepping aside. Or I see certain shows like Scott and cat, which are out of Kitchener, Tucker and Maura out of Toronto here. they're getting, um, they're getting, you know, um, put out there.
Starting point is 00:20:50 They're what's syndicated out. Yes. Indicated. Like Ross mocha style. Exactly. So the ones that they like quote unquote, or the ones that fit whatever mold it is that they want will, I think those will be okay, but that's going to be far and few, they got 50 there's 50 radio stations, I think almost, almost 50 radio
Starting point is 00:21:04 stations, of course course as you may end up with only five more. What happens at q and o seven with the three person morning show? I know you don't have necessarily specific insight, but that's the two derringer guys plus FOTM shana wailin what what happens with them? I think like if you're guess like because you obviously don't know, you know what? I think a lot of it's gonna have to do with the ratings. I think they may just blow it up. I think that no like no offense to those guys. I think
Starting point is 00:21:27 there's a very good. No one could take this personal. No, I think there's a very go. Bob can get fired. Well, there you go. Anyone can get. I think there's a very good chance that they blow up anybody who's making over a hundred K and off they go. Wow, that's Joanne Wilder. I can join Wilder would go Joe and Wilder. Okay. Yeah, they made about it What about the fearless one? My dear dear friend fearless friend? He's very good chance very good chance You know, like you said nobody's safe. Nobody's safe and I you know, the irony is I don't even know the people who are left there
Starting point is 00:21:58 in management that might I don't know They're just doing what they're told right now. They're just trying to survive. You're talking about Q and a seven. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm talking, yeah. So he's talking about like chorus, stay on the station. Yeah. And all the Troy Reeb, is that the name? The guy running the place now? Yeah. He's a co-running it. Yeah. But my old boss, she is, she, she, she's the one who did me in. And she had to do in everybody. So yeah, like she was ordered. Yes. Yeah. Well, she wanted to, there's a whole, there's a, there's a story there between her, between me. There's a reason I was six months earlier. Um,
Starting point is 00:22:31 are you glad you were six months, like you got the six months headstart or would you wish you just got it with everybody else so that you can, you know, there's misery loves company. That's a good question. Um, you know what? I'm glad I wasn't there because odds are they might've made me do it and then get rid of me. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. They would don't get, don't, don't get it twisted. But that's when they line you up. We only want to waste one bullet. Right. That bullet's gonna go through. Yeah. It's a horrible time. The two, two of the company, you know, you know, bell is at least divesting that what they don't want.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Uh, my understanding is there was more that they wanted to sell that they couldn't, that nobody wanted. That's what I've heard. Um, and uh, what is the value of an AM signal in 2020? Zero dollars. AM. Zero dollars. You know what? That's not true. So that's, it's not zero dollars.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Here's what it is. You need to find a, here's who's buying it is all these companies with these multicultural radio stations and they block, they sell ethnic programming, they block the programming and they sell it to people who are willing to buy it. And it's almost like podcasting because it's not broadcasting. It's narrow cast. Six 40 is going to become the Frank D'Angelo station. I wouldn't be surprised. His money man is dead. Okay. His money man is, you know, the Sherman murders. Oh, that was his money man. Oh, is that his backer? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that
Starting point is 00:23:41 was financed by Barry. I can't say anything about against Frank D Angelo because I might be listening. No, no, no, because I think I have a relative of what he's won a very big client. Well, I think you could just see the money man financing all this, right, which the son didn't like very much. You can connect dots on your right. But Barry Sherman, who was murdered with honey, honey, famous Toronto murder unsolved unsolved bridal path murder okay anyway he was the gentleman Barry who was financing these Frank D'Angelo operations brewery I don't know the Apple juice cheetah shout out to Ben
Starting point is 00:24:16 Johnson okay I'm being told we got to get to the jams so being told by who you got a producer somewhere in my head. They're telling me somewhere. Don't worry, babe. I'm getting there, but okay. So lots happening in the Bob well that universe, Newfoundland, the chorus. I was very, very interested in your taken chorus because you were the canary in the coal mine there and we'll see what happens to chorus this summer, declaring bankruptcy. We heard it here first, a real possibility, plausibility or likelihood. Likelihood. I heard. So do you think it's like, is it a deal? So the person who I, who I knew, who I, who I knew through somebody was high up in finance there, and they've been packaged out. So you got it. So let me just, I want to just make
Starting point is 00:24:58 sure we get this right. Okay. A little birdie in finance is no longer with chorus told you that chorus is going to to preparing they're preparing for bankruptcy. Okay, so is what I was told won't shock anybody at this point. Do you own any chorus shares or did I god damn no no thank you. Would you go in and swoop up a bunch of eleven at eleven? I know well, did you do that with nortel? I didn't I never bought any. I know like you know nortel did that right you know and what happened you lost it all right lost it all. I don't think it became at it nor
Starting point is 00:25:27 tell them Blackberry, right? Like, you know, you know, I think Blackberry is still around and because they do security work and stuff now, but I don't know, man. So before, uh, because we're going to kick out jams here and we've got some bonus jams. It's going to be a lot of fun. We're going to crack open a grid. Did you crack it open? I have to get it on the mic because then we're going to do a bomb to talk. Yeah. Okay. All right. Cheers. Cheers. Okay. Oh, you got one. Okay. One, two, three. So I figured we talked enough. We'll get closer to noon and we can crack it open.
Starting point is 00:25:51 That's right. So the last time we opened, I think we opened them at 10 30 last time. Oh my God. We sure did. That's true. No. So Rob Bruce, how the hell are you doing? And while you update us briefly here, I would love to know your thoughts on the Ed Sousa episode of Toronto, Mike. Cause there's a lot of Rob Pruce talking that one. I, it was well talking about my bands, right? Like, I mean, he was sort of talking about how it was honeymoon suite and spoons and you were in the spoon. I was in the spoons and I was in the honeymoon suite and they really rule his universe. Like, I mean, as far as, Oh geez, there it is just in the background while you talk. But you you need to make a loop of that. You know you need to do. You need to make
Starting point is 00:26:26 a bad of it right. You know, oh my God underneath, so I I only met at one time. I played with rough trade a couple of years ago at the combo shadow to fotm with him. Hope with him. Well, yeah, oh and was promoting that show putting on the show. So that was the first time I got to meet Ed, but I was excited to finally meet him because he's been putting on his bowl, you know, the comedy bowl, McDonald's bowl concerts. Comedy bowl was an old Q and a seven show. Yeah. He's raising a lot of money raising lots of money. And he's bringing in the coolest artists, um, mid year in a, in a very narrow band of wavelengths. Yeah. So let's do this right before we get to the
Starting point is 00:27:01 jams. Uh, I kind of teased this by the tree while we were waiting for Bob. He was in the basement, which is the best way to go. Bob's in the basement. We're outside looking for him. I love that story. But what I found interesting about Mr. Sousa, who I enjoyed very much, Ed Sousa. And he was very passionate about his music, but his range of like, he loves his music, but literally there's a stopping point, I think right around 1990 or something where he, that's it. Like he, he doesn't but literally there's a stopping point, I think right around 1990 or something where he, that's it. Like he, he doesn't want to hear any bare naked ladies. He doesn't want to hear any grunge.
Starting point is 00:27:31 He hates grunge of a passion. Like basically nothing in the nineties appeals to him. Right. But I mean, there's something to be said for, for digging in into your narrow lane and, and there's a lot of people that want to be really narrow. It's really narrow. It's going to have keyboards, but he, but then look at, he's got midge or he's got, you know, he's cause ultra box is right there in his lane,
Starting point is 00:27:50 but it's possible that if he can expand that lane to bring in people from other countries as well, there's something to be said for that. Like, you know, he brought in the art of noise and he's not just right with the Canadian bands, like which is a good starting place. Eagles is his favorite band of all time. Yeah. Oh, so that's what okay. That's a and he and he alluded to the fact that he introduced Gord or he's the reason Gord is a guitarist for Flocka Seagulls.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Because he was sort of like the middleman between it all, which is super cool. That's cool. Yeah. So a lot of lot of so you enjoy the episode. You enjoyed the shout out. It made me feel funny in a way because I feel like when I hear people talking about the bands that I was in and I feel like a step removed from talking about them like they're these these cool 80s bands and I'm like I'm like a regular on in the Toronto
Starting point is 00:28:32 Mike world now and I like just being part of the group part of the crowd and I think there's something about it is a little more normalized in a way like yeah I think Ed talks about the bands like there's there's something really cool about them which there is but I'm like I was in those bands and I'm just this you've seen behind the curtain just as you've seen behind the curtain. I have you seen behind the curtain. You know how the magic was made and to you, it was just part of your world. My world, right? And to him, it still has this magical and that's neat. Must be neat to appreciate
Starting point is 00:28:56 on a very smaller level as a person who's been on radio and and when people come up and like, oh, I loved when you did that. Yeah. Uh, and then and there are super fans of radio stations, super fans of Toronto, Mike super fans, humble and Fred, all that stuff. If you sometimes forget when you're doing it, that it's special. And that's one of the things that I've been not to make it about me, but I'll find a way to do it. Um, is I wondering what's next and I don't want a regular job. Yeah, no, you don't. I don't have to have one. I don't want a regular job. He's literally starting a regular job. Yeah, no, you don't. I don't. I don't have to have one. I don't want a regular job. I he's literally starting a regular job
Starting point is 00:29:27 because dealing yeah, dealing cards is not an exceptional job, but I don't. I'm gonna do it. Yeah, I'm gonna do it because I like cards. I like that. And it all comes back to your attitude and what it is you're doing and why you're doing it. I had this turning point like that when I was twenty when I quit the spoon race and I didn't know what I was gonna do next. Yes, and I was working on some songs myself, but I literally that summer I almost got like a quote unquote real job. Like I looked in the classified section and there was like people doing telemarketing and stuff. I don't fucking do any of this stuff. Howard burgers got a real job. A
Starting point is 00:29:56 lot of people were. I have I don't want a regular job. I want a job when I meet people and this is just pure ego. Yeah, well, that's cool. Yeah. I want that. And then beyond that, I know I want to do something that makes people feel good. That's the most important part. I want to do something that makes people feel good, or at least, if possible, people will laugh at. That's really ultimately.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And that's why the improv thing started. I want to be able to do stuff that people enjoy and like. When you have that as a starting point, you will find that thing because that's that's sort of drew. That's the driving force. That's how you probably ended up doing all the like the musical stuff because I was bored, but I didn't want to not do music. I was like, I'll do anything in music.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Like I like this is like why, like with my wife now, we work in public schools and I work with little kids. And I'm like, this is to me just as exciting as opening for Journey or whatever, right? Because you're getting to see those. Yeah. And sharing music and inspiring kids and doing that kind of stuff is just as fun as making music and playing at Ontario Place or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:54 So all these worlds come together, but you have to have the initial intention to want to serve the world with what you love. That's what I say. It's awesome. This song again, I love this song. It is. It's so I think. That's awesome. This song again, I love this song. It's so good. I love it too.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I hope all the appropriate stations in this country have this on high rotation. I got to look that up for you actually. I got to find out who's playing it. Anyone who played Blow It High Doge. Should The Edge be playing this? Yes. I don't think they are. Find out for me. I will.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I can't imagine chorus would make a mistake like that. Okay, so I'm playing the songs. I love it, but also Friday night I was at a concert by a cover band called Almost Hip. Oh, and I've seen them too before and shout out to FOTM Jamie do who hired them to play his discovering downy event and I was hanging out with Patrick Downey. This was Friday night. That's where that picture was good, Chad. And I said, I said, Patrick, I said, I got to know. I said, I've been I've seen the Tragically Hip whatever 14 times. I said they never played 38 years old, which is one of my favorite songs.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And 38 years old is the reason this song never made up to here. Yes, it is. Yeah. Yes. So he and I said, I heard a rumor. It was because there's it's too close to home. He references his brother, Mike, my older brother, and he's got an older brother, Mike. Yeah. And everything I had heard was confirmed by Patrick that he just felt cringy about
Starting point is 00:32:15 it because it was too close to his real family and the names and everything. But I will say, and as I told Patrick, I did see them play 38 years old live at Fort York when the Sadie's opened for them and that was amazing because I had never seen them play 38 years old. What year was that, do you remember? Oh, that would have been later on probably. Early 2004. Did you ask him about Pigeon Camera?
Starting point is 00:32:35 No, but I... Because Pigeon Camera's got some really interesting undertones of some family issues. I did not, but save it for later. So the Tragically Hip, love this song, but I just want to say thank you Great Lakes Beer for sending over the delicious fresh craft beer we're consuming right now. And everybody, 600 LCBOs carry Great Lakes beer, and LCBOs are back in business. That strike has been resolved. So I think starting Tuesday, you can go to LCBO, grab your Great Lakes if you don don't want to get it directly from the South Etobicoke headquarters, where they do free
Starting point is 00:33:09 delivery and everything. I found some Great Lakes yesterday at 14 O's in Oakville. You gotta find your... My sister and I were looking for wine and anything that was like vaguely LCBO related. And the shelves were so bare. It was unbelievable. There was the beer in the corner. I was like, nice. Great Lakes to the rescue. Thank you, Palma Pasta. Do either of you two gentlemen want a lasagna? I'll take a lasagna today. We actually had an emergency order. Really?
Starting point is 00:33:33 For three gentlemen from a country band called the Watchport Union. And their PR rep phones me to say they're behind schedule and they're going to the dome and they won't be in your basement. And I had, that's why you have the three books from the tour. Everything was all set. Like it was, and I had reconfigured the room to get three big guys in here. One of whom is of course, a chorus guy who Robbie J refers to as Dunner, Chris Duncombe, who is a member of this
Starting point is 00:33:57 band and is like in charge of podcasting at chorus. Yeah. He used to be a program director at CFOX and he's moved on. He's in charge of their podcast division, which I can't remember the name of. That's a small world. I think that's a interesting coincidence. Anyways, they postponed. So that's why I have lasagna is in the freezer. So you guys can have each have a meat lasagna from Palma pasta. I mentioned Toronto Maple Leafs baseball because I am recording live from Christie Pitts on the fourth. I have to go. I'm going camping tomorrow morning. I have at some point I have to think about who, who will be my guest for this live recording.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I haven't even actually thought about it. So VP of sales, if you're listening, maybe we can come up with something. Okay. Let's get a Tyler Stewart or something. Uh, to Sunday, the fourth, the fourth of Sunday. Yes. 2 PM. Are you going to be in town? I might be. Oh my God. Rob Prusho. Okay. Well we're going to, we're going to design something there. So I am recording live. I love the baseball there and we support Toronto May Believes baseball at Christie Pitts. Recycle my electronics dot C A is where you go. If you have old electronics, old cables, old tech that you need to get rid of, you don't
Starting point is 00:34:57 throw it in the garbage. Those chemicals end up in our landfill. You go to recycle my electronics dot C A put in your postal code. I don't know if it works for you, Rob, because I think it's Canada only, but recycle my electronics. That C A is where you go. If you're listening to me in Canada, like everybody else and last but certainly not least.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Ridley Funeral Home Pillars of the Community since 1921. Listen to the latest episode of life's undertaking. That latest was fantastic. You know, but Brad's very good at that. Yep. And I like Brad's got some new merch coming on with the cups and things like that. And I'm very excited.
Starting point is 00:35:30 You're going to get a shout out to really funeral home mug because then we'll give those away instead of the measuring tape. I did get a lovely note. Who is using the measuring tape? I want to go. Yeah, Robert Fisher. So shout out to Robert Fisher, who was amazing.
Starting point is 00:35:44 He was amazing. He was amazing. Like this is a must listen to episode of Toronto Mike, Robert Fisher, who just came on. We talked about chorus. We talked about all these things, long time a journalist with global news where he was fired and CBC where he retired from. And he sent me a picture of his, uh, using his Ridley funeral home measuring tape. It was very nice. Cool. all right. We have to get to the jams. Rob Proust, we start with you. Any words before your first jam? Not really.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I would like to say though that I- Other words. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I feel slightly guilty about the last episode because I think I had too much shit around my short songs. It's a lot of work for me. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Especially because it only came in yesterday and Bob's came in this morning. I was in Newfoundland man They have no internet out there with the short songs in the last episode I felt like I was giving you too much context and I'm sorry about that So this time I didn't love means never have to say you're sorry. Yeah, I don't go But but my three choices are songs that I first discovered sitting in a movie theater. Okay, okay Okay, cool
Starting point is 00:36:41 literally watching the screen and hearing these things and And you didn't know these songs before, but you heard them for the first time in the theater and you loved them. Yep. Great. So this one you can just go. Come into these arms again And lay your body down Is that Annie Lennox? Yes. Okay, sounds like her. The rhythm of the trembling heart My heart is beating like a drum
Starting point is 00:37:30 It beats for you, it bleeds for you It knows not how it sounds For it is the drum of drums It is the song of songs Once I had the rarest rose that ever deigned to bloom Through the winter chill the bar And stole my power too soon Loneliness, oh, loneliness All right, Robbie. to all right, Robbie haunting me in my headphones. Is it familiar at all? Probably not. No, I
Starting point is 00:39:19 don't know it. No, I if here's the thing, it feels familiar. It reminds me a little bit of Shakespeare Sister. Yes, stay, But I don't know it. It was from the film Bram Stoker's Dracula. Oh cool. 1992. We had Keanu Reeves kicked ass in his performance as I recall. Gary Oldman did of course. But this was the song as the credits started rolling. Oh. Like into blackness. You know I've never seen this movie. What? Bram Stoker's Dracula? No, I've never seen it. It's fantastic. I have a few blind spots. Not like Cam Gordon's blind spots, but I have some blind spots Yeah, so anyways, this was this was the song that started as the credits started rolling and it I loved the film so much That it was just this moment and I thought oh who doesn't love Annie Lennox already anyways in 1992 Yeah, it was like early on in her starting to do solo song three broken glass Yeah, like yeah, but all that stuff. Yeah, so it's just nice to hear her voice
Starting point is 00:40:03 It's gorgeous and she wrote it for the film. Oh wow and a couple of years ago starting to do solo songs. Pre-Broken Glass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, but it's- All that stuff. Yeah. So it's just nice to hear her voice. It's gorgeous. And she wrote it for the film. Oh, wow. And apparently, she wasn't a huge fan of Jackie, like, of the original book. But she was, at that time, I remember Anne Rice had done Interview with the Vampire.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Of course. Of course. The whole series. Rad Pitt, Tom Cruise. Yeah. And the book series was out. Kristen Dentz? And Andy was more inspired by that for the lyrics and stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Oh, OK. No, it's beautiful. And I love the idea of, I know that feeling of like when a movie ends and then the, that it used to mean a lot. The song that played over the credits. And I think the Marvel universe ruined that with all their goddamn little skits they do in the middle of them. But it can still happen. Like I think it still happens in terms of today. I think you're right. It happens in a lot of TV shows where they close with a song. Yeah, it's often a very good song and a spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:40:48 My first jam is going to be one of those. Yeah. Yeah. This is great. Produced by Steven Lipson, who used to work with Trevor Horn producing like, like seal and I hear that a lot of stuff for sure. I was going to say also a slight Kate Bush vibe to offer. Sure. You know, like I hear that a lot of stuff for sure. I was gonna say also a slight Kate Bush vibe to offer sure you know, like I hear Kate Bush. I hear that Shakespeare sister, it's a but it never breaks into it. What I like about what it just my first time hearing it never goes big. Yeah, it stays that right. Well, that's why I don't know when to fade down. I don't know. I was looking
Starting point is 00:41:22 at Rob like you give me any. So when you listen to that, when that, when that hits you and you, and you hear those keys like that, that like, what do you immediately picture? How do you hear it? How do you see it in your head? Is it, I don't know. Cause you're, cause you're like, you hear that I hear the keyboard. Like, like I think I hear it in a different way now than I heard it when I first heard it. Okay. Okay. 30, whatever years ago, um, because I can hear it now and almost like played on the piano in my head right. Yeah, yeah, but at that time I would just take it in right. Okay, just just sort of let it wash, which you do want to do with a good song anyways.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Yeah, I don't want to think technically right, but I can my mind can sort of bridge between those worlds. I have this conversation. I was hanging out with some really, really talented east coast musicians this last week and what, and we had a nice little, we had a shed party watching the, I have some video of playing like these amazing Ron Hein songs. It was a new Newfoundlander famous, famous Newfoundlander probably. Uh, and then, but, uh, this guy's going on and he's doing a kind of like a tribute act to the Eric Clapton unplugged album. So we were in and he did the Layla like
Starting point is 00:42:25 and it's just and I yeah that that version of it. It's just I love asking because I can't play a goddamn thing. I love finding out how you see like you know it's like how Dave girl talks about what he sees a guitar like a drum. He sees the D string is this thing and all that and I always wonder how you how like I said how you see music. Yeah, it's weird because I do it. I mean, everybody does it differently. Sure. And that's why I like to ask. Yeah. Right. And I don't really think about how I do it or how I see it. Um, but in these kinds of moments, like if you ask me, I think, oh yeah, I guess I do sort of visualize like, especially coming back to this song after this was the literally the first song
Starting point is 00:43:02 that came to my head. Oh, cool. Yeah. So this, for this episode. Love it. You should always include the first song. Yeah. Always trust your first thoughts. That's what my first one is. My first one came to my head. Yeah. Yeah. So I, and in my mind, I thought of the song and I'm like, oh, I could sort of sit at the piano now and probably sort of just play that. Can I, uh, just to let the diehard listeners know that this is the same topic we kicked out on pandemic Friday. You did do it. Yeah. So I just want to let people know I'm not repeating any jams. So we did two things. We did two different things. We did a screen enhanced jams,
Starting point is 00:43:31 which are songs we already knew existed, but we didn't love them until we saw them on screen. Okay. And for that one, I kicked out Journeys Don't Stop Believing, because I heard it on the Sopranos, Tiny Dancer by Elton John, because I heard it on the Sopranos Tiny dancer by Elton John because I heard it on almost almost famous. Yeah, where is my mind by the pixies? Oh cuz of the fight club move on up because of yeah because of The wire. Oh that when cut he goes for a run on election day That's the song in his Walkman and it's amazing and I kicked out son of a preacher man because of pulp fiction
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yes, dusty Springfield, former lover of our mutual friend, FOTM Carol Pope. And we talked about that and she talked about hanging out at her funeral. Right. And it was a really something here. The Pet Shop Boys with the Pet Shop Boys, because the Pet Shop Boys took her and made her relevant again. Right. When she was down and out, what have I done to deserve this? Okay. And then with screen discovered jams is what we called it on pandemic Friday. We were more creative with the title, uh, painted black by the rolling stones, which I first heard in a show called China beach when I was very young. I remember that she loved it. It was painted black, a little green bag,
Starting point is 00:44:41 which I never knew of and never heard until I heard it in reservoir dogs. Yeah. Quentin Tarantino is a huge part of the nineties kids world. Oh yeah. Well, more on that. So a couple of, yeah, cause I think we're all going to do that. So maybe not rough, but uh, mystery achievement by the pretenders. So there's a song by the pretenders called mystery achievement, which I absolutely love because I heard it on the deuce, which is an HBO show and Elvis Costello's this year's girl. So I'm not repeating any of that, but this is the same title, and that was a great start by Rob Bruce, even though I didn't know when to fade down and Bob will let any words before your
Starting point is 00:45:16 first jam. Is this the the fat boy someone? Yeah, no, no, no. You're not going to know when to fade this one too, because it's a bit of an epic. Let's just open her up. And both of your songs, your first songs have the word song in the title, because what was the official name of your love song for a vampire? Yeah, it's called song for shelter song for shelter. So you guys have song songs. Humble and Fred are fat and ugly. Next album after that. we'll talk about. Oh I love that album.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Rockefeller skank is on that album. Yes it is. Praise you. I get deep I get deep I get deep I get deep, I get deep, I get deeper into this thing The deeper I go, the more knowledge I know What to sing, what to bring I get deep, I get deep, I get deeper, deeper, deeper into the vibe Chillin' in the corner at the shelter all by myself
Starting point is 00:46:25 Checking it out, I'm not dancing no more but Why? Why? Why? Why? How on earth are you supposed to vibe around the fake ones? Around the ones that say they know what is what But they don't know what is what They just strut what the fuck I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get song, spinning it strong, playing things like we cannot howl this weekend. That's my shit. What? What?
Starting point is 00:47:10 What? I get deep, I get deep, I get deep, I get deeper when people's going to disappear. And it's about 6 o'clock. Yeah, wait till the drums. Wait till the drums kick in. You're the boss. Said Mary Jo Eustace.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Ha. I'm about to dance, ride the swing, just close down my road. She's in Toronto right now. You're the boss. I said Mary Jo Eustace. She's in Toronto right now. He takes all the beats out the song and all you hear is highs and it's like, so this song originally appeared on Flatboy Slim's, the follow-up to You've Come a Long Way Baby, which was halfway between the gutter and the stars. So this originally appeared on that. But I really discovered it on the Bully soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I love the movie Bully. Movie Bully is Larry, what the hell's the guy's name? Larry. The kids guy, right? The guy who did kids, yeah. Very controversial. Clark, right? Yeah, Larry Clark.
Starting point is 00:48:16 It's his third movie. And this is, and Michael Pitt is in this. He's a main character. Married to Amy Mann. Yeah, oh wow. Who has great soundtrack jams from Magnolia. There you go. So he's as a Mary to Amy man. Yeah. Oh, wow. Really has great soundtrack jams from Magnolia. There you go. So he's in a rush song. This is this here. I just turn some up one more time just so we can hear
Starting point is 00:48:40 and I can't where I think it's featured right before the end credits actually in the movie. Yeah, there it goes and then it gets going. It think it's featured right before the end credits actually in the movie. Yeah, there it goes. And then it gets going. It's, it's a, I love that voice. I love that. Song for shelter is this one. Yeah. So the, the album that it comes up comes from actually has so halfway between the gunner stars wasn't particularly commercially successful, but we play, if you are an old Martin streak CFN, why edge one or two era people, there was sunset, which is a bird of prey,
Starting point is 00:49:10 which has Jim Morrison vocals on it. That's so good. And then star sixty nine and when the weapon of choice is on it, that's the only hit that's the one with the yeah weapon of choice is a big one, big, big much music jam. So there's like a seven and a half minute Let's face it drug addled song right? I your buddy Jose is on the live stream and he wants to get high hearing Jose I don't think it's a hard J. It's a hard J. It's a Portuguese So it's not Jose's Jose just like Ed Sousa. Oh, right. He's Portuguese Sousa you think so
Starting point is 00:49:44 this like it's just one of those songs that just it's visceral to me and right. He's Portuguese, you say you think so this like it's just one of those songs that just it's visceral to me and I'll be honest, my the first time I really I saw it in the movie and we used to share a personal anecdote about the story. We used to go August long weekend twenty twenty five of us would go rent a group campsite at KO a ren for out near Ottawa in the Ottawa Valley and we go whitewater rafting during the day and at night we would do shrooms and we would do a lot of shrooms and have got a Fowler online to have close to have glow sticks and like the whole bit. We would we did all
Starting point is 00:50:24 we was pre children, of course, and this song on how you made the babies this song on shrooms is amazing. Right. Right. So anyways, yeah. So this bully soundtrack. And like I said, if you're on the live stream, you can see I have all these CDs. These are like, I think, and this is an argument,
Starting point is 00:50:37 not an argument, a conversation we could have. I think the nineties is the quintessential era for soundtracks. Oh, for sure. That's when it really came into its own. Because there were music being made, like I've lost highway here, hackers. Even, I went through this, like Dumb and Dumber
Starting point is 00:50:51 has a great soundtrack. Peter Pumpkinhead. Yeah, Peter Pumpkinhead by the Crashes. Dumbies is on their remake of it. Also, but that Dead Eye Dick, New Age Girl, great song. The Spawn soundtrack. No, dude, I'm with you. I had all these.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I'm with you. I could have done a thousand songs. Like, it's ridiculous. But that was was for me why I was trying to like limit myself to what do I remember in the theater? No, it's great because it's the same in the eighties where there were a lot of massive soundtracks in the eighties. Oh my gosh. Breakfast club, footloose, dirty dancing, fame, like, like all those things. Right. And that was sort of the beginning of the compilation. Kevin Bacon. You can't dance here. What's the Kevin Bacon, You Can't Dance Here? What's the... Foulouz, Foulouz, I said it, I just said it.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah, playthrough, wonderful. Okay, quick, Renfrew, quick shout out to FOTM Danny Kingsbury once the program director at CFOI, he lives in Renfrew now. Oh, Danny's son is still with Rogers, is he? His son is a programmer as well. Hope he's not with Corus, that's all. Hope not too. But yeah, I love it, man, I've got the here. Great, great stuff here and fat boy slim is fucking in
Starting point is 00:51:49 heaven. I just let him is fucking in heaven. Fat boy slim. Yeah. Anyhow, cook Norman cook who was in the happy Mondays. No, no, no, not happy. One is another British. It was the they did a song called it. It's happy hour again. What the hell was the name of the band he was in all the cook? Yeah, I had it. I had it. It's gone now. Okay, so he was in the house martin how smart he had a yeah. He was in the house martin. I knew that yep. Wow! The house martins have a hit. Yes, the house martins. I just I just
Starting point is 00:52:20 quoted it. So the bereniket ladies quote a more attention. No, it's happy hour again. That's that's the house martins. You know the bereniket ladies quote a more attention. No, it's happy hour again. That's that's the house martins. You know, the bereniket ladies have that one line. It's happy hour again. It's actually you know, hates bereniket ladies of great passion, ed suza really yeah. He was a good guy to the business by who was the pd after marsden before Danny Kingsbury Alan Cross? No, the gentleman down Don Burns. Oh, Don, I believe Don Burns is the bridge between okay, David Marsden and Danny Kingsbury, who coincidentally was just mentioned,
Starting point is 00:52:56 which is wild actually, but but but but Don Burns has said this is we're trying to promote this new local band and he had Ed Sousa put it together and that was his first concert. He there is I just look at it. He hated them. Norman Cook and the house martins. So they had a song called Caravan of Love. Caravan of Love is their biggest hit but not in Canada. In Canada I think it was Happy Hour. Okay. It's happy. You'll hear it. Every now and we used to play, we would have played it on the retro breakfast. Yeah. I didn't know it was in that band. That's so cool. Yeah. Because I've loved Fatboy Slim forever as well. Oh so good
Starting point is 00:53:25 Anyhow, so this goes on it's a moody song the movie's not easy to watch. Yeah, it's not an idea I just I watched it multiple times and enjoyed it. Is your you know what that says a lot about you Well, maybe you know what? I remember digging it and yeah Yeah, so it's a seven-and-a-half year with the Carleton cinema to watch kids So so I went to the carl, my first girlfriend worked at the Carlton theater in ninety four. I was eighteen and I went a lot of ninety four with my first wife. We spent a lot of night. Yeah, me too. We probably passed because
Starting point is 00:53:55 I saw pulp fiction ten times in that may believe garden. Yeah, yeah, tiny little. I too was all the cool films. When I was there with crumb, yeah, I think I saw yes that I blew my mind when I saw crumb. Yeah, all the cool films. Remember Crumb? Yeah, I think I saw that. Yes. I blew my mind when I saw Crumb at the Carlton. That was that. Well, I mean, I wanted to mention so many of things, but you know, obviously the... Well, you can still talk. The song's still going.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yeah, no, it's okay. It's good. No, no, I just just about... You mentioned the Carlton, like how many of the movies that we saw there had great soundtracks. Like this thing gets creepy at the end if you turn it up just a touch. Love it. I want to watch this film. I don the end if you turn it up just a touch This it helps if you're on shrooms, oh it really does actually it's still a good song shrooms make it better
Starting point is 00:54:42 They come back. I love it like that. It's an ode to that Chicago house music scene for sure like Which was not that many years before Yeah, this is 2001. Yes, so it is 10 years later. Yeah, Carl Cox and all those guys. Yeah You know, it's it so it's like you're coming out of the rave now Yellow Sun, that's what the whole song is like a draw. It's like a it's a 24 hour 12 hour Experience of going to a rave and I wasn't a rave kid at all. I was not. I was in the bars. I didn't I didn't but I got into the music about a little bit the bars there. Bye. It doesn't it. It takes a while to get it to get get
Starting point is 00:55:19 rid of it. I'm telling you okay, so we're going to roll right into my first jam. I'm dedicating to bingo Bob will let and Bob bear with me here because I'm going to go on a little journey with you. You'll be all into it and then my ignorance. You're never big, right? Yes, son. You're never big, right? Yes, son. You're never big, right? Yes, son. You're never big, right? Yes, son. You're never big, right? Yes, son. You're never big, right? Yes, son.
Starting point is 00:55:56 You're never big, right? Yes, son. You're never big, right? Yes, son. You're never big, right? Yes, son. You're never big, right? Yes, son. You're never big, right? Yes, son. You're never big, right? Yes, son. I'm just a little girl I'm just a little girl I'm just a little girl I'm just a little girl I'm just a little girl I'm just a little girl
Starting point is 00:56:12 I'm just a little girl I'm just a little girl I'm just a little girl I'm just a little girl I'm just a little girl That's funny, I'm just... Cry but I don't need my mouth Don't just hold my hand while I go on to a decision on it Sooner or later, Alex gave way You hit the ground, save it for later Don't run away, don't let me down. Sooner or later, you'll hit the deck. You'll get found out. Save it for later. Don't run away and let me down.
Starting point is 00:57:29 You let me down. Run away, run away, let me down. Do either of you two gentlemen watch a show called the bear? Yes. No, I am. I'm three episodes into the current season. So I won't spoil anything from so rest assured FOTM. I won't spoil anything from the new season. This is new. So this is a new version. New version. So he's doing it a long time. We're going to do a whole thing. Yeah. Who's jam is this Bob? See, I knew he couldn't show any restraint. So let me do the journey,
Starting point is 00:58:07 and then you can sprinkle in your program expertise as we go here. Okay, so, the bear, and it's good, you're only a few episodes in, you've heard it then, I believe. I just finished it last night, and I won't even review, no commentary from the bear, but I have lots of things to say
Starting point is 00:58:22 about season three of the bear. But I don't wanna spoil, so I have lots of things to say about season three of the bear, but I don't want to spoil. So I'll save it for later. Okay. As you will. So this song is by Eddie Vedder lead singer with Pearl Jam and it's episode two, where they featured this song on the bear season three. Now I hear this and I fucking like, I'm like, I know this
Starting point is 00:58:48 song, but I don't know. I know this song. So my problem is I've heard Eddie do this and I'll play that in a minute, Bob, cause I know, you know, but I've heard it, but I didn't know it was a song. And I'm like, what is this exactly? The save it for later. And I fucking love it. What do you think Rob? Per proves of this? Well, I love this song. I mean, I remember the original. Well, that's okay. So yes, I had to do some, uh, some, uh, I had to educate myself. I don't have your vast knowledge of the eighties. So maybe cause I got some mind blows. I'll bring down. Is this sacrilegious? If I bring down, I can show. So true show. So here. Okay. So Two thousand other country mothers must be a sucker for it
Starting point is 00:59:47 I cry that I don't need my mother Just hold my hand while I come to a decision of it Sooner or later you make good waves at the ground So, Bob, as you continue with season three of the bear, you're going to get to episode seven and you're going to hear this version of the beat. I'm sorry, by the beat. So in the UK the beat, here we knew them as the English beat. And Rob, this is what you're alluding to. So you knew this in real time, right? This is a 1982 song. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I missed it.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Same album as Mirror in the Bathroom? Yeah, I think so. I know, but I don't remember. I see Mirror in the Bathroom, I heard it all over the place. Mirror in the Bathroom was a huge hit in North America. But I don't remember, and if I heard it, it just didn't retain me. Well, how remember. I see Mir in the bathroom. I heard it all over the place. Mir in the bathroom was a huge hit in North America. But I don't remember. And if I heard it, it just didn't retain. Well, how old were you in 1982? Come on.
Starting point is 01:00:49 But I know a lot of songs from 1982, like including Mir in the bathroom. When we, as Spoons, opened for the police and English Beat were on the bill as well. Wow. So yeah. That's so cool. I heard this live.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Nice. Okay, so I see here it got moderate chart success in Britain only. In Britain. But CFNY played the shit out of it. Out of this. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, so I was listening to Britain only in Britain. So, but CFNY played the shit out of it. So out of this. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I was listening to CFTR in 1982. They weren't playing the shit out of this. No, that's right. No. In 1982, Tom Rivers was never talking about English.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I played mirror in the bathroom though. Not during the morning show at midnight and uh, Mike Cooper on the uh, five, 10 stupid joke of. Right. Stupid joke of the day. So written by beat guitarist Dave Wakeling before the band was founded even. So there you go. So one of their most famous tracks now and you hear it in lots of soundtracks. So Bob, tell us what that soundtrack is. You have so what I'm holding in my hand is the two hundred cigarettes music from the motion picture soundtrack. So this was a movie with like Casey Affleck
Starting point is 01:01:49 Ben Affleck said it to fucking Paul Rudd's in it. Was it nineteen ninety nine era? It's gotta be sure yeah all those handsome brunette, Janine Garofalo said, Oh my God, Jay Moore. Yeah. Oh Jesus Christ. What's her the one from almost famous? Blondie. Yeah. Hudson. Kate Hudson. Oh, anyway, she's a heck of a singer. Yeah. And so this, the soundtrack is amazing. The soundtrack has Nick Lowe, Blondie, the Cars, but there's a cover and it was a single and there's a video by the quote unquote one hit wonder album. I want to one hit wonder band Harvey Danger and Harvey
Starting point is 01:02:24 Danger. You know you love Harvey. I love it. They're not one to yet to me. They're one of my favorite fans. Harvey Danger did a cover of save it for later. Get out of here. Okay. So speaking of covers, so yeah, apparently so Eddie Vedder probably discovering we'll talk more about how pro jam fans already know this save it for later. Okay. And I've, I've even heard it, but I didn't realize what it was, but I learned it when I found Eddie Vedder's solo song, which I got from this current season of The Bear. But- But did you recognize it?
Starting point is 01:02:52 Yes. And this song is where we think Eddie got it from. So it's probably Eddie doesn't know it from the English beat necessarily, but Eddie is a huge fan of this artist. So we'll listen to this cover and then we'll talk about it. Two dozen other dirty lovers. First one you can name the artist. Must be a sucker for it. Cry cry but I don't need my mother. Just don't mind while I come to a decision on it.
Starting point is 01:03:21 It's not Neil Finn is it? Nope, good guess so. Because Eddie's not Neil Finn, is it? No. Good guess so. Because Eddie's a big fan. Big fan, yeah. What are the initials? What are the initials? PT. Pete Townsend?
Starting point is 01:03:31 Yeah. Oh yeah. I recognize that voice, that's right. There you go. So he had a, I don't know, but this is a known cover of Save It For Later, and that's probably where Eddie discovers it. Yeah, I don't. You know what?
Starting point is 01:03:42 I'm going to, now I am going to call you out on that. No. Go, go. Because he knows it because better man is identical to save it for later. That's true. Better man. Do you, they tag save it for later on the end of better man, um, which I knew you'd have ready, right? They, and he knows it because he would like, and he's been doing better man since his first band, bad radio. Like you there, you can find, he wrote better man years and years ago and it didn't make it till to Vitology in 94. So it's identical.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I'll have to skip ahead though, because it's going to be a while. To the tag, where they tag it on. So here we are, this is a live version of Better Man. And that's the band I've seen the second most times in my life is Pearl Jam. Mine is the other way around. I've seen Pearl Jam the most, and Trash Be Hips second most. Right. So now I'm going to, I'm not, I should have done some more work, but I'm going to skip a hit. I'm going to wager that he knew it from the beat.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Not just because his buddy Pete Townsend did it. Because he would have been doing it before he knew Pete Townsend. We'll have to get him on the show. Hold on. Yeah, please do. That'll be my first fucking question for Eddie Bader. Yeah, please do. They're gonna be my first fucking question, but I need better. Yeah. Fucking love this song though.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Okay, now we're kicking out the G. Like this is still Better Man, but it, but I didn't know what I was hearing. I didn't necessarily crystallize what I was hearing until I dove into the song. Sunday morning, we got our beer! It's not morning anymore. Is it noon now? It's noonish. This will establish whether or not Pearl Jam is a jam band. That's great. Don't run away, don't run away, don't let me down Don't run away, don't run away, don't let me down Don't run away, don't run away, don't let me down Don't run away, don't run away, don't let me down
Starting point is 01:06:36 Don't run away, don't run away, don't let me down Don't run away, don't run away, don't let me down Don't run away, don't run away, don't let me down Don't run away, don't run away, don't let me down I think it's going to be awesome. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Don't run away, don't run away, don't let me down. What a great live band. This is the second week of Show in a Row. We've jammed out a tagged Pearl Jam song. We did it with the Tragically Hip last time.
Starting point is 01:07:00 That's what happens when Bob would let Sonja in. I didn't pick a Pearl Jam song this week. No, I did. All did. It's my fault. Although that is Eddie Vedder solo. I actually technically kicked out here. OK, Jesus, bring it down. But I need to catch my breath there. But basically Pearl Jam regularly performs Save It For Later
Starting point is 01:07:17 in a medley with Better Man, which is a live version you're listening to right now. And yeah, I still think it's probable that he learned the song from the cover by Pete Townsend. It is improbable, my friend. Why do you think that? Well, that predates it. Better Man. No, Better Man was written before Pearl Jam was a band. When did Pete cover it? I'll get to the date, but I think it predates that.
Starting point is 01:07:48 If only there was a way to... A machine that would tell us information like this. I'm getting a few right now. These sons of bitches. But he wasn't friends with Pete Townsend then. He didn't become a fan of Pete Townsend. He was a huge fan of the Who. Very big influence. A huge fan of Pete Townsend. Like massive fan of Pete Townsend. And the song was released by Pete. In what year?
Starting point is 01:08:14 Before he wrote Better Man. You don't know that! I'm gonna have that info in a minute. I'll tell ya. Stop yelling at me. Tell us. Oh, what a way, what a way. P Townsend recorded it after hearing Ed Vetter. 1985. That would be hilarious. I would have loved that. 1985. 1985 is when Pete
Starting point is 01:08:32 So there's a miniscule chance. Hi, I mean, we'll have to find out. I believe, I believe Ed heard this, the cover by Pete and fell in love with it and he was like, I'm going to go with the cover by Ed Vetter. I'm going to minuscule chance. Uh, hi. I mean, we'll, we have to find out. I believe, I believe Ed heard this, the cover by Pete and fell in love with it. And that's how it ends up with better
Starting point is 01:08:51 men. But anyway, And I believe Eddie Vedder is cool. I'm going to, I'll ask him. Vote in. Uh, excuse me. Okay. You might be right. Get Eddie on mine too. You know you're right. You know you're right. Okay. Set us up for your second jam, you're right. Okay. Set us up for your second
Starting point is 01:09:05 jam. Rob Bruce. Okay. Uh, I'm gonna cheer us on here. The cheers are good. We're here by open the floor for requests. Whoa. And he's speaking. I fucking love this guy. I want him in front of Mike. So I'm gonna get him on. I'll do it by zoom. That's how much I like them. The clip that I sent you for my second song. I'll do it by smoke signals. My next my next song is actually the song in the context of the film. OK, so let me so.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Yeah, you can just play like this. It's a bit low, but I'm going to fix it in post. Hello. I had tickets to see him as my wife. He cancelled. From Pearl Jam to Onconeal. See what we're doing here? I'm nothing but a lovelorn And when you're seeing me I know I'll be alright I've got my friends in the world I had my friends in the world I have my friends When we rise and grow
Starting point is 01:10:51 And I'll going to sing a song for you. I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl
Starting point is 01:11:40 I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl I'm just thinking of a little girl City of brotherhood, place I call home Don't turn your back on me, calling my name. Tell me I'm not too late, I won't feel ashamed. So this was the end of montage of the film, right? And I remember not remembering who the hell that was singing. I was like, Oh my God, I know that voice. What is that voice?
Starting point is 01:12:37 Really? You thought it was America, the guy from the Horse of No Name. I could not remember for the life of me because I was so moved by the scene itself And this song sort of overwhelm great movie and great song And so he was nominated for an Academy Award for this of course along with Bruce Bruce one I was one, but I think this is a better song. I do too. I don't know You'll perform this at the Oscars in 94 as you really yeah, that's why so 94 what a year for movies 30 years ago Yeah, this came out in 93 but 93 was 94. Yeah. Yep Beautiful song but if you want to play the next little clip that I have is just a little bit of
Starting point is 01:13:11 Tom's acceptance speech. You got it buddy. You got it Shout out to Andy who says this is a beautiful song. She's on the live stream right now and shout out Go ahead. No your songs both have a so far of a real similar, uh, like there's a, in the background like that is that I don't know what you call it, but the theme, like the sound of the sounds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In a good way. Yeah. Great. And shout out to Leslie on the live stream who, uh, says there's a great cover of save it for later. I don't, she doesn't say great. She just says that, uh, Martha and the muffins covered it. Oh, yeah. She said there's a, uh, save it for later playlist I don't she doesn't say great. She just says that Martha and the muffins covered it. So yeah, she said there's a save it for
Starting point is 01:13:47 later playlist on on Spotify. I want to hear that fine. Yeah, like just a list of covers. The rest of this episode, we're just gonna play that save for later covers. Hopefully, I mean, it goes to Tom Hanks in Philadelphia Here's what I know. I could not be standing here without that undying love that was just by not Bruce but Neil Young and I have that in a lover that is so close to fine we should all be able to experience such heaven right here on earth I know also that I should not be doing this I should not be here but I am because of the union
Starting point is 01:15:20 of such filmmakers as Ed Saxon Ron Nicewanner, Christy Z, Attack Fujimono, Jonathan Demme, who seems to have these attached to his limbs with for every actor that works with him of late. You can fade it down if you want. I just sort of want to play out his teacher and it can't Who second to my love I don't know that I would trade for they made a movie about it Yeah, about him out. Yeah, like the teacher who got outed by and a cast that includes Many other people but in this moment the actor who really thought that's why you want to say well It's just the general feeling of that show me at the time Fortunately we don't live in this of that movie at the time. It was so powerful. The opening there was really much shared.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Unfortunately, we don't live in this courtroom. Right? Or here it comes. Speaking of outing somebody... I would not be standing here if it weren't for two very important men in my life. Two that I haven't spoken with in a while, but I had the pleasure of just the other evening, Mr. Raleigh Farnsworth, who was my high school drama teacher?
Starting point is 01:16:26 He wasn't out. Who taught me that act well the part there all the glory lies and one of my classmates under Mr. Farnsworth, Mr. John Gilkerson I mentioned their names because they are two of the finest gay Americans to wonderfully mention them. Isn't that wild? Oh yeah, this is a famous moment. And I think that John, his friend had already died of AIDS as well at that time, right?
Starting point is 01:16:45 So he was- But his teacher, because they may, I think Kevin Kline played the teacher. There's a movie now made about the teacher who's watching the Academy Awards and gets outed or whatever because of this here, but chilling there. I mean, my whole thought about this song as well,
Starting point is 01:16:57 that at that time, AIDS in the world and the whole conversation about it was just starting to happen, right? Well, this is 93 though, this was 93. So we've already lost Rock Hudson. Rock Hudson. Was the one that really brought it to the... Sure.
Starting point is 01:17:10 When the zeitgeist said, hey, we should look at this. But just a year before, this is when Freddie Mercury died, right? And then they did the big concert and the awareness was just starting to happen. And when this Academy Awards happened, the red ribbons were just starting to be worn.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Yeah, you're right. So for Tom Hanks to stand up in this, it's like groundbreaking, you know, and he'd be back next year because he wins back to back for Forrest Gump in 94 with one of the best years for movies in my lifetime. Shawshank Redemption, Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction, Dances with Wolves, I think was the other one. Or do you want to say no, no, that was before 90.
Starting point is 01:17:40 No, well, you skip ahead and play my other track just a little bit. We can talk about anybody. It's just an instrumental thing It's so this is a version of the same song by this clarinetist named Richard Stoltzman Who apparently had like Neal's original version of the melody because Jonathan Demme asked Neil to change it a little bit for the film the story is that Jonathan was using a song of Neal's for the opening Originally like a temp track and he asked Neil to write a song for the film,
Starting point is 01:18:05 thinking he'd swap it in for the opening, and Neil gave him Philadelphia. Only love will break your heart. And Jonathan was like, that's really great, but that's really more for the end. So then he reached out to Bruce Springsteen, and Bruce gave him Streets of Philadelphia. Which is a great song too.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Which is of course a great song too, yeah. So here's a question. But it's no Dead Man Walking. Well, that's another one. Here's a question. When is the last time we were in a moment, and I know it's a dead man walking every well. That's another. Here's a question. When is like when's the last time we were in a moment and it's a horrible moment obviously, but but where we finally get things where pop culture were movies where the art of film really and music really changed things
Starting point is 01:18:38 and change the commons like guys. You said it, other people's right. So I have so in the 1980s, I went to a small Catholic school and we had a teacher and he was my actually Jose's listening. He was our grade three, four teacher, my buddy, Mr. Wharton. And in 88 he died of AIDS. And we were told we, so of course in 88 it's, it's the gay disease, right? Even before that member, it was grid, right? It wasn't AIDS. it was grid gay related immune disease is what they originally called it and my friend Pierce Murray who's been on my podcast would tell you about that he's a very unbelievable member of this gay community in Toronto who i got to know when i
Starting point is 01:19:18 was at proud and but we were told in 88 minutes now this we're twelve years old that Oh, no, Mr Wharton wasn't gay. He was promiscuous, and they told us that at our Catholic school, and that was the first person I knew. I was twelve years old, and I knew somebody who died of AIDS. Yeah. And then, yeah. So five years later, Philadelphia comes out, and all of a sudden it's not the gay disease anymore.
Starting point is 01:19:41 And the Magic Johnson was the first stigma. Yeah. And that's the HIV stigma you see ads about for it everywhere. About HIV is not a death sentence anymore. No. Right. But it's amazing to think about the way it was viewed. Just that few years ago.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Totally. 100%. I have to share a quick story because I went to a small Catholic school as well. And I got to tell you about the day that mr. Iwasco was no longer with us So I feel like until a story but he spent the day telling us about how God was punishing homosexuals with AIDS and literally And I was I don't remember a grade five I think it was but I'm sitting there and he's like, I don't know anything I just yeah, they're just learning about AIDS and he's explaining about how
Starting point is 01:20:22 It's it's a punishment for being gay. Wow. Yep. So where do you go? I have to know with this mystery. Wasco election. We can exchange Catholic school story, inappropriate things. Can you imagine Bob or your kid comes home from school and the teacher spent the afternoon educating the kids that, uh, yeah, it's a sin to be gay.
Starting point is 01:20:42 It's a sin against God and God is punishing homosexuals with AIDS. Yeah, I get chills thinking about it actually. Just one more inappropriate Catholic story quickly because- Well, we can spend all day on this. Because it's Jesus Christ Superstar related. So my grade seven teacher, Mrs. Richardson, I think she's past, so I'll tell you. So she played us the brown, the original version, the British version of Jesus Christ Superstar. She played it for us to use it to teach us about Jesus,
Starting point is 01:21:08 which I thought was really cool until Herod's song comes on. Herod's and Herod, this is how she described it. Yeah, she, no, no, no worse. She goes, and I'm gonna say it. The F slur. The F slur, yeah. She's like, Herod comes up, he's kind of, fuck you. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Yeah, and it was like, I still remember being in grade seven, hearing a teacher say it, and of course it gets a huge laugh. But you're a big Dire Straits fan. So you already heard that. That's right. It's true. Yeah. But it was like, I can't imagine. And fairy tale of New York. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I wouldn't have known. So the movie I'm thinking about with Kevin Klein, where he's outed by the the doskis beach, whatever it's called in and out. So thank you to the sales on the live stream bailing us out once again. And Andy points out the other thingis beach, whatever it's called in and out. So thank you to the sales on the live stream, bailing us out once again. And Andy points out the other thing about AIDS, not just being a gay disease,
Starting point is 01:21:50 Ryan White, the boy who got it from the blood transfusion. Oh, 1990, changed out in John's life as well. Right. He started his AIDS foundation after meeting Ryan White as well. And I mean, that's the thing about that. Or those early years, like there was so much happening and so much awareness opening up to the world and people realizing they could, you know, there's, there is an FOTM who's living with AIDS and has been living with AIDS
Starting point is 01:22:11 for decades. And like you said, no longer with AIDS or HIV. Oh, you know what? I wish I could speak. I don't know. Probably HIV. Billy Newton Davis. Oh, I know. Yeah. Billy Billy was a big fan of the proud FM. We had him on all the time. Yeah. Billy's out and he's very much against that stigma. He was that big part of that fight of the stigma of HIV. Oh man, and we know it was big on this with Princess Lady Die, who would like, you know, visit in the hospital and he would, she would actually touch them and hug them and yeah, oh, and it was huge. You could, yeah, because they were like lepers
Starting point is 01:22:41 and I had to say they, that was inappropriate. I was like, but they were treated like lepers. the people who are HIV. My God, and there's so many examples, and I think it's happening right now with trans people, where you look back and you think, was that the Stone Ages or was that the 80s? Yeah, no, it's not that long ago. The way that I see rhetoric, and a lot of it is
Starting point is 01:22:59 too much coming from religious circles in the States, particularly Trumpers and stuff, but the way we're treating trans people right now makes me nauseous. Like to me, it's, it's as disgusting as that Mr. I wasco speech I received in grade five. Yeah, absolutely. And that's why my kids don't go to Catholic school. Okay. Now we've got Bob with that second jam. We'll bring it up a little bit here. This is a song I discovered because watch, I remember watching it in the movie. Actually, I think it might've even been in the in the preview of the movie. Okay, it might have been in the but this is a great soundtrack,
Starting point is 01:23:30 great coming of age film. Just go for it. I don't remember what day it was I didn't notice what time it was All I know is that I fell in love with you And if all my dreams come true I'll be spending time with you Every day's a new day In love with you With each day comes a new way Of loving you
Starting point is 01:24:27 Every time I kiss your lips my mind starts to wander If all my dreams come true I'll be spending time with you Oh, I love you more today than yesterday, but not as much as tomorrow. I love you more today than yesterday, but darling, not as much as tomorrow. Pretty, pretty iconic song. Unbelievable. That I could not have told you who did it or any, like, was the spiral. I couldn't tell you who, who recorded this.
Starting point is 01:25:14 No, no, the spiral staircase. Did Rob know that? What? I was going to give you a chance. Who's the artist? No, no, I didn't, I would have never guessed the artist, but I know the song from my, like, baby childhood. Childhood, yeah. Oh my God. Like it would have been a 10 the artist but I know the song from my like baby childhood childhood. Yeah Oh my god, not like it would have been a 1050
Starting point is 01:25:28 KOC is his child. Oh, yeah, sorry. Whenever it was on the radio. Yeah, this is so This was featured on the my girl soundtrack and that my girl amazing 90 something early 90s came out and Dan ackroyd's in Dan ackroyd 90 something early 90s came out and Dan ackroyd Dan ackroyd Anna Schumacher, McCully cult. I never saw her between like she was on 30 rock. She as she did a no she's like on a six episode arc on 30 rock. Okay, deep is great by the way. Yes, and my girl is to me just one of the most beautiful little
Starting point is 01:26:01 films ever made. It's so quiet and lovely and the soundtrack is amazing. The soundtrack rivals any sound because it's got all this great music from the late seventies like obviously my girls on there, but there's like well first of all actually first of all, here's who is this? Here's your first mind blow. His name is Pat Upton, yeah, Pat of the spiral staircases, the name of the staircases. Yes, so Pat Upton, this band only lasted the one album. That's it serious one hit wonder serious one hit wonder. It was a hit right. I oh yeah,
Starting point is 01:26:34 but it was not a number one top top forty hit, but never made number one. Yeah, but a good hit. It made number twelve in the billboard top one hundred, but so the band had it was a lot of members in that band. It's a big bad. There's like eight guys in the band. If you look at the front, that's why they had to break up the exact did not work out. The money doesn't spread. So here's the story here. So the mind blow is that's a guy singing amazing. Yeah, no, I thought it was a guy. Gosh, I thought it was a girl. I always thought it was a woman. It had a
Starting point is 01:26:57 timber similar to another woman, but that's a spoiler. Okay, okay, there we go. So oh yeah, fair enough, and here's the so after spiral staircase disbanded in seventy one, he goes and works for Ricky Nelson, right? He goes from that from Ricky Nelson, father of Nelson, father of Nelson, but here's the deal. He so of course in working else and died in a car crash or not car airplane crash. So I know from a Tarantino center. That's yes.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Yes. Tarantino sun tracks everywhere. So here's the thing. He could have been on that plane and he decided not to take that plane. Which plane Ricky Nelson died in a plane crash and he was supposed he was traveling up and was up. Yeah. He went on.
Starting point is 01:27:42 He lived to be 75 years old and then he died in twenty sixteen at seventy five in all in Alabama, but that that so I think the thing that everybody remembers now, it's become like a meme of where's his glasses. He needs his glasses because because you go into this movie and they don't tell you the preview never alludes to the fact that the movie is actually about death because it's traumatizing. It's the movies about death. He the Dan Acroyd is he owns a funeral home. He's a you know he's the Brad Jones of that's right. That's right. He is so anyway, so but I just recently had this experience. I was reading a book to one of my kids to my to my oldest bridge to
Starting point is 01:28:22 Tara, Tara, but the O yeah, it was made into a movie. Yep. And I didn't know it. And I, I never saw the movie movies. Nope. So the book is beautiful and it's a young coming of age too little. It's like, it's basically it. I get chills when I think about I like the, there's a death in it that comes out of nowhere and I'm there. I'm reading it to my kid. I'm crying. I'm like this, it just blew my mind. Much like My Girl, the movie. It is just, the soundtrack has so much good music on it. Bad Moon Rising, Good Lovin' by the Rascals, Hot Sun in the Summer Time is on it.
Starting point is 01:28:59 The ones that really, I love, the flamingo's doing I Only Have Eyes for You is on it. It was so cool in those days, like with sound soundtracks where all of a sudden you get exposed to music from a whole other era yes the guys putting in the fourth gump soundtrack was another one that I okay that was the big chill yeah yeah Motown yeah 80 and good morning Vietnam good morning Vietnam had a 100% yeah so that's that was my pick for this one I have a collection of collection of, I have a collection of chum charts and, um, every time I see them online, I take pictures of them. So from May 1969,
Starting point is 01:29:31 it was number seven on the chum. They made number seven on the chum chart. Nice. Okay. Before I kick out Bob's bonus jam, which will actually segue nicely to my jam. So a lot of people covered that song. Okay. So I just want to point out that there's a recent episode of Toronto mic, which you two should listen to if a gentleman named Gary Chowen, I loved him. Okay. Because Gary, you know, Gary Chowen was the official hairstylist for share. Wasn't he on the sunny and share show? Like, did he do?
Starting point is 01:29:56 He was the guy who did her hair. You've got to listen to it. So he was recruited from a Yorkville salon to go to California and be shares. And he gave share that iconic, I worked with Bob Mackie, he was working on the costumes. And gave share that iconic straight hair thing. So really, you need to listen to Gary Chowin. His client. For some share talk.
Starting point is 01:30:16 This is his client. This was his client. Ah! Don't remember what day it was. And he says that Sonny Bono was basically murdered because he wasn't useful in his congressman role to certain people. There's a huge conspiracy theory he feels in this episode. That that screaming accident was not an accident? Because he knew that place.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Somebody planted a tree. He says that was no accident. So listen to Gary. I knew that place. Somebody planted a tree. He says that was no accident. I might be spending time with you. So listen to Gary. Every day is a new day. I'm waiting for the woman who sounds a bit like the, is it Pat Upton's voice? Yeah, Pat Upton.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Pat Upton, by the way, is the Waylon Jennings of that story. Yeah, right? Because Waylon was supposed to be on that plane. Right, yeah, on the day the music died. Buddy Hawley and Richie Ballen and the big bopper. Hello, baby. I'll be day the music died. Buddy Holly and Richie Ballant and the big bopper. Hello, baby. There's tons of covers of this one out there too.
Starting point is 01:31:12 They would have done some of the show, I bet. For sure. This sounds like it's from the show. I love it. Those big long mics. Yeah. Did you know Cher has no indigenous Background blood Well, she always wore the cheap that she always dressed it I never wore the head dress I mean, I just thought it was just fashion thing. Yeah, to be honest at that time I think she was I think she was
Starting point is 01:31:38 Buffy st. Marie in it. Yeah, not as bad as her What she's saying song she had a song called Half Breed. Yeah. In the early 70s. Yeah, big hit. Oh, that was a big hit. I don't know that she sang it as if it was her truth as much as she was singing the story. She didn't dispel the suggestion.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Right. Neither did Buffy. By the way, speaking of Buffy, great Italian food from Palma Pasta. Woohoo. When I go to Newfoundland, they all think that I have indigenous blood. Really?
Starting point is 01:32:03 I have to do the DNA. Because apparently the part of bond Bay where my Grandfather's from in Stephenville a lot there make the mcmack community there Bailey was here this week, and he just did the ancestry thing because he's gonna do this promotion for them Yeah, and he says he's 51% Nigerian Wow they look at my skin tone in the way out And I say what my grandfather's from and they're like you sir. I'm also they say you're Indian. I'm like well I'm allowed to say that. Wow.
Starting point is 01:32:27 No, sir. India is a country. And so that's what I do. I correct them. Yeah. No, I get it. I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:32 On the East Coast, on the East Coast, on the, on the West Coast of the island. Specifically, very specific. You should do it. So I know I have my wife just came back from Edmonton and they were in Alberta for two weeks, almost my youngest two and Monica. And she was telling me how many more members of the indigenous populace you encounter just walking the streets of that city compared to Toronto.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Well, Toronto though is the most diverse city in the world. I don't care what any- Most unique languages I think. It is. New York and us I think. I've been to New York a lot and I love New York, but there's nothing like being in downtown Toronto. This is a, and I say this in a, this is a
Starting point is 01:33:06 Brown city. There is not white people. There's white people, black people, you know, people from all over the world. This is a Filipino. I've always loved it. Like it's so it's totally unique. I've lived in New York now since 2001. And when I first started coming back to visit again and I would fly, like I love driving now, of course, but in the, in the early days I was like, I'm not going to drive. I'm just fly to Toronto again and I would fly. Like I love driving now, of course. But in the, in the early days I was like, I'm not going to drive. I'm gonna just fly to Toronto.
Starting point is 01:33:26 And I remembered the moment in the early two thousands when I noticed more employees with turbines on and women with headdresses and things. And I was like, I never see this in New York. This is so weird. And I loved it so much because I thought we really are. Well, this is the most, even more than London. So I bike the waterfront and water for I more hear other languages being spoken and I told you guys, I think I've mentioned this before. I started this job. I started training for this job at the casino and, and I say this is three middle-aged white dudes
Starting point is 01:33:55 in the basement. I'm the only white dude there. Wow. Like I'm and everybody has great story. I love it. And that's what I love to go into second city is learning. There are people improving and English is their second or third language. Like Jesus Christ, I can barely speak English. No, it's amazing. It's an amazing place. Yeah. Amazing city. Uh, shout out to Toronto. Okay. So we played that sunny and share a cover of that song and, uh, this, well, let's get into it. I'm going to kick it out. So to set the table here in the beginning is this song I did not know. Like I didn't know it until I heard it in a movie.
Starting point is 01:34:27 I didn't either. And I'm like, what the fuck was that? Like I just loved it. I was five and he was six. We rode on horses made of sticks. He wore black and I wore white. He would always win the fight. Bang bang.
Starting point is 01:34:43 He shot me down. Bang bang. I hit the fight. Bang bang, he shot me down. Bang bang, I hit the ground. Bang bang, that awful sound. Bang bang, my baby shot me down. Rob, do you know this song? I know it from a film actually, but I don't remember it. Well, okay, well, we'll remind you in a minute. So this version, which is the song I first heard when I discovered the song, this is Nancy Sinatra. Shout out to Steve Pagan. So Nancy Sinatra recorded this in 1966 for her album, How Does That Grab You? You hit the ground.
Starting point is 01:35:28 The tremolo guitar player here is Billy Strange. Oh, wow. Bang, bang. Now, this song I know because it was used in the opening credits of a 2003 Quentin Tarantino movie that I adored, I still adore it kill Bill volume 1 yes so you you hear this song right off the top and if it's the movie so fucking perfect he picked his song so well yeah we alluded to the budget he's his
Starting point is 01:35:58 soundtracks shaped my music a lot of my musical my 40th birthday party was Quentin Tarantino inspired I made the whole playlist of just his music and everybody came dressed as different characters. I was the wolf by the way. Harvey Wines. Not Harvey Wines. Harvey. I tell, that's another, that's another, oh, he was a different Wolf. Yeah, it's a different Wolf. I was, yeah, but as we, uh, as I said, when I do this with pandemic Friday guys, I can't remember their names. My co-host for pandemic, whoever the fuck they with Pandemic Friday guys, I can't remember their names, my co-host for Pandemic Friday,
Starting point is 01:36:25 whoever the fuck they were. I kicked out, Jesus, what did I kick out? That was from a Tarantino movie. Oh, Little Green Bag. Oh, yeah, all right. From Reservoir Dogs. And in the songs, the screen enhanced jams, it was a dusty Springfield, son of a preacher man,
Starting point is 01:36:43 which I never heard the same after Pulp Fiction. So shout out to Quentin Tarantino. But a couple of mind blows on this. One is this is a cover. Do we know this? Did not know that. No, this is a cover song. Oh no, it's not your headphones. It's produced that way. I saw you do that. It sounds like a mistake. Here it comes. Here it comes. Oh, actually it's a bad recording. There it is. No. So they did the music track first and then they recorded the vocal. What's a Twisty Shouts like that that. Very much. Like your left right. Who can name this artist? Rosemary Clutie. Listen for a bit.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Cher? It's Cher. What? No way. Seriously? I knew it. Young Cher. This is like, this is fucking Cher's song.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Cher has did this originally? It's her, yeah. It's her second album. It's called The Sunny Side of Cher, released in 1966. It was written by Sonny Bono. Wow! Sonny Bono wrote this song. And it went to number three in the UK,
Starting point is 01:37:56 number two on the Billboard Hot 100. This version? Yeah, this version. It was first a hit by Cher. Wow. That disappeared. What's weird is it disappeared. Like why didn't any Oldies station keep playing it?
Starting point is 01:38:08 Well, do you listen to Oldies stations? Maybe they are playing it. Why you ask, dude? Okay. But the song that kept this out of number one is the Righteous Brothers' You're My Soul and Inspiration. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:21 But this was actually one of Cher's biggest selling singles of the 50s. Great Righteous Brothers song. You've Lost lost that loving feeling from the Top Gun soundtrack Which was the most played I think the most radio played song in the history of radio Wow is that song which I learned about in facts of life I and here's the thing there other one I listen to it on chain melody featured on the ghost soundtrack Also a huge huge radio hit Yeah, see this is the hard line to like do you pick a song that was on the radio that you know from the radio? No, yeah, my thing was I needed to know I need to remember seeing it in the same guy I need to know that or maybe not on the film, but I thought because I would buy soundtracks before I even saw the movies
Starting point is 01:38:59 Holy shit. Okay, so Little mind blows so that's the mind below that this is a share song covered by Nancy Sinatra and the Nancy Sinatra Version is on is in Kill Bill volume one. Hey, do you have a preference kill Bill Bill volume one or two? I Liked one. I liked one I always go back to one. I found it and I liked not knowing the bride's name. Oh It's such a stylistic movie. Yeah. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Did I interrupt you, Bob? What are we, a top four? What are we, Frankie Z and the boys in the morning and the morning zoo? Just a little quick little add on here. I was five and he was six. We rode on horses made of sticks. That's Nancy. I was going to say this is's Nancy this is black and I
Starting point is 01:39:46 will white he would always win the fight bang bang bang bang this is a song from 2005 bang bang it's called shot you down by audio bullies. I find these random. These are not, it was barely a sound. No, it was number three. Electro House Track. Do you know what I was? From the same movie, I was going to do the 5, 6, 7, 8. Woohoo! That was on my list for sure. So this was actually also number 20.
Starting point is 01:40:21 It was number three in the UK, and it went to number 20 in Australia. So this is not some obscure thing this is an actual electro house This is not a good song. Number. It's not a good song. I hit it in the UK. Oh, hi, Lillian. Oh, by the way, I'm doing another gig at, uh. Tell us your gig, Lillian. Yeah. While we're doing this, I'm doing another gig at, um, Ground Control. Are you? Yeah, I did it.
Starting point is 01:40:54 I have since we last, uh, I, we did a night with, uh, five or six of us. How did that go? I had something that night. I wanted to go. It was, uh, so here's the thing. It was on July 5th. It was the first Friday of the summer and it was okay. Attended Lazarus who owns the place. We had a gold. You bring 5 60
Starting point is 01:41:15 Jays and you hope they're gonna bring people in. I told him, man, I can't bring the first Friday of summer. I'm an adult. My all my friends are gone. Like I don't either, but we're doing another one. The first it's like I think September six cool. We're gonna do it and if you're come there's no cover me, DJ Shannon, DJ Michael X, Lazarus, all these guys. If you DJ, if you partied on Queen West or even blew up on blue, at least palace at the dance cave, we all do an hour and it was a lot of fun. It was, it was, it was like the place wasn't dead. We wanted like 300 people. We got about half that. It was still a good night. Yeah. What night was it?
Starting point is 01:41:51 Friday? Yeah. July 5th. But I'm going to my calendar. There was a reason I wanted to go. Yeah. It was good. I had to, I had to watch the Canada soccer match. Okay. Is Canada played Argentina? I know I watched it and then I went cause I didn't go on till midnight. Okay. Well that's, that's my bedtime. Yeah. No, Canada played Argentina. I know I watched it and then I went because I didn't go on until midnight. Okay, that's my bedtime. Yeah, no, I know. So yeah, I'm doing it again. Not sure what time my set's gonna be, but I'm doing it again and again. Bingo Bob is available for all your DJ needs, but this we're calling it silver circles the night because we're all CDs. We're
Starting point is 01:42:19 teaching with CDs. Yeah, which is like this random thing like we're so and she can't. I used to have this massive case and I still don't have all my CD, so it'll be interesting to see what I can cobble together, but it's all that stuff. If you listened to Marty, if you listen to Martin streak with DJ Dwight and our Q EQ technical guy, that was me. I play that music. It's fun Rob Bruce, please set up your final jam. It's another one that I heard in the theater in the dark.
Starting point is 01:42:54 By the way, I've kicked out this song for a pandemic. Yeah, but we did duets and okay. So I heard the song in the trailer for the film before the film was even released. I saw the trailer and heard like a snippet of the song I was like, I don't fucking know what this is, but I can't wait cuz I'm gonna love this Everyone loves this Rob. Honestly, this is a fucking great song. Yeah Despite what ball boy light has to say about it It's great song inspired choice. Let's listen I don't know you, but I want you All the more for that Words fall through me, and always fool me And I can't react
Starting point is 01:43:45 And I can't free up Games that never amount to more than they're meant Will play themselves out Take this St. Kimball and port it home We've still got time It's your hopeful voice, you have the choice, you've made it now Falling slowly, eyes that know me And I can't go back. It's still playing. Beautiful, right? Yeah. So it's from the film Once, which came out in 2007, won the Academy Award for best song in 2008.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Great movie too. Great movie. Great. What is it about again? It's about a guy and a girl in 2008. Great movie too. Great. Yeah. What is it about again? It's about a guy and a girl and in the, uh, in Ireland, Glenn Hansard is the guy from the frame, big friend of Eddie Vedders. Yes, of course. Of course. Glenn used to be a roadie for Jeff Buckley in his younger days.
Starting point is 01:45:16 And he's in the film, the commitments he's in the band and the committee. Oh, well that's that's that's an Irish. Yeah. Yeah. All these things that come together. I love the commitment. Yeah. Glenn is in the band like he was like Hansard was in the I gotta go back and watch it. It's so weird. Yeah. Uh-huh. He wrote it for Jeff Buckley He wrote the song with his he was in a bank called the frames, which was a very popular So I'm sitting in the theater. I don't know what I saw but then there was the preview for this film and I was a trailer I can't wait to see this trail this so what's the name of the song?
Starting point is 01:45:44 The song is called fallinging Slowly. The film is called Once. And who are the two people singing? Glenn Hansard and Marchetta Erglova is her name. She was like 17 years old at the time. Wow. And they were a couple for many years and they wrote all these songs together and then they toured. They had a band called the Swell Season as well. Wow. But when I saw the film I went to see the film with my wife, who's my wife now. She was not my wife at the time. We went between shows because we were doing Mamma Mia at the time. And we were like, is that where you met her? Yeah. I don't think we were on the stage.
Starting point is 01:46:13 And I was a singer. She was dancer, singer. Your wife's a singer. We don't think we ever talk about your wife. No, I don't know. I tried to hire his wife to be a vocal coach for me. That's right. But online it doesn't work. We went to see this film together. And it was in a... And then you guys fell slowly for each other. Falling slowly, exactly. And we sat there at the end of the film.
Starting point is 01:46:33 We were like, oh my god, that was so damn good. Does Liza Fromer know about this relationship? I don't know. But we got so... So Leia and I got together many years later. But then the weird thing, I was living on the upper east, upper west side of Broadway when this film came out and like a couple years after the film came out, I was in a Starbucks right next to a theater called
Starting point is 01:46:55 the Beacon Theater. It's a very famous... Of course the Beacon, yeah. You know the Beacon. I was supposed to see Eddie Vedder there. Really? So there's a Starbucks right below the Beacon. What about fucking Eddie Vedder? I'm just saying. I'm in the Starbucks getting my coffee, putting in my cream and there's a girl beside below the beacon. I don't know about fucking Eddie Vedder. I'm just saying. I'm in the Starbucks getting my coffee, putting in my cream, and there's a girl beside me like putting her shit in her coffee. I'm like, who is this? She's so familiar.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Does she work? Is she like a waitress around here or something? Does she know who I am? No, I'm looking at her like, where do I know her from? And then she walks out, and I see Glenn Hansard outside the Starbucks. Wait for it, it was Marketta. So they left, and then I walked up the street to them,
Starting point is 01:47:23 and I said, I just wanted to tell you how much I love your film. And he was like, Oh, wow. Thanks. We're playing at the beacon like tonight or tonight. Yeah. It was so weird. Oh, and the beacons right next to where late night was, wasn't it? No, it's up. What's the one? What's the one? There's another theater right next to where the, ah, it doesn't matter. It's another kind of like right next to where the Ed Sullivan theater. Okay. Buckle up everyone. We have like about an hour of mind blows from Rob. No, they're not. They're all short though. Um, buckle up everyone. We have like about an hour of mind blows from Rob Proust.
Starting point is 01:47:45 No, they're not. They're all short though. So, but the story about this song is then three years later, I got to work on this musical, the Broadway musical. They turned this into a musical called Once. Yeah. What? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:56 I'm surprised. I'm actually shocked. Bob Ouellette doesn't know about the Once musical. Yeah, so we, a friend of mine from London who was the original music director on Mamma Mia, he he called me to be his assistant music supervisor putting once together Wow, so we we worked off Broadway in 2011 and then on the opening night of the off Broadway production They announced that we were gonna go to Broadway 2012 spring of 2012. We won 12 Tony Awards. How did that feel? Massive so not the Tony Awards. I want to hear that. Yeah, but to the night you're gonna open off Broadway
Starting point is 01:48:24 Well, it was exciting preview The previews, right? You've done. Yeah. So you know, it's a good show. Well, the original cast had been together in Boston. They did a workshop for a couple of weeks in Boston, putting it together, which they do that a lot. Yeah. It used to be here. They don't do it so much here. I know exactly. But so we would always do rehearsals and do notes before the show. And it was the, it was the cast like group meeting before the opening night performance. And the show. And it was the cast group meeting before the opening night performance and the director announced that it was gonna go
Starting point is 01:48:49 to Broadway. And so they'd been working on it anyways. But it was a big exciting thing. So as the, you were assistant music director? Assistant music supervisor? Because the cast on stage all played the music. So we were basically music teachers and working with them to sort of refine what they were doing.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Because the whole concept of the show was that the people on stage were the musicians in the band and telling the story as well. So much like the commitments, the movie, where it's about, yeah. What, now did you work with Glenn Hansard? Glenn came to a couple of our rehearsals. He came and sort of like listened and sort of gave some notes and some ideas and stuff.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Yeah, but it was just cool to have him hanging around as well. Yeah, the guys have got such a great history. He's one of those guys, like unsung heroes of the mean and Marketta came as well Yeah, and they were all at opening night Killian Murphy came to her opening night. My wife got to my wife would lose her mind Said hello to Killian and she still talks about it to the day because he was shorter than her Yeah, and she still didn't know what to say to him. She was like a nervous. Oh, no. No. Yeah, Killian Murphy Peaky Blinders for dad Oh my god Academy Award winner like Tom Hanks. Mike, do you want to play my second? Oh yeah, sure. But first
Starting point is 01:49:48 quick note from a VP of sales who says it's a tough watch, but there is a documentary about this duo Glen Hansen. Oh yeah. Marketta in Glover and it's called the swell season. Yeah. And yeah, VP warns you that it's a tough watch. Yeah. Wow. The ups and downs of their relationship on tour and as well. Oh, I couldn't imagine. Like, I mean, you warns you that it's a tough watch. Yeah. The ups and downs of their relationship on tour and stuff as well. Oh, I couldn't imagine. Like, I mean, you work with your wife every day now.
Starting point is 01:50:09 And, but it's not a creative adventure. Exactly, like you're doing, you're working, you're teaching people, you're not making things together. Well, we are. Can you make things with her? We do make, I mean, we are creating what we give to the kids like, Oh, fair, fair enough. The idea that we, we have to devise classes for kids and like we're got, we've got these little kids, older kids. So there's a creative part of picking and choosing what we're going to
Starting point is 01:50:37 give to the kids. Fair enough. Yeah. Work with them as well. So that's got its own thing. Absolutely. Can I read a quick quote from spin magazines review? Oh, actually, no, this is actually of us of an album called strict joy. It's not of the from them from them. If glen hansards and marquette inglobes roles and the hit Irish indie film once unintentionally wove the tale of the real life falling in love their second album as the swell season weaves the story of their real life falling in love. Their second album, as the swell season, weaves the story of their falling out of it. And so it's a rough, I gotta see this thing too, see what's going on here.
Starting point is 01:51:10 And they did parody their roles from once in The Simpsons in the episode, In the Name of the Grandfather, from 2009. Morgan probably knows about this. I'll get her down here and we'll talk to her. Okay, you got a mind blow. So my first little extra is, to me, it's not a direct influence, but this melody is where it comes from. When he starts singing. No, no, no. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Here it comes. Here it comes. You're absolutely right. Yes. A hundred percent. Get, get Lord Honigman on the phone. Right. I always thought it is smokey Robinson. You really got a whole lot. I don't like you I don't like you I don't like you I don't like you I don't like you I don't like you I don't like you I don't like you
Starting point is 01:52:04 I don't like you But it is this song. Yep. It's this song. It sounds familiar. Yeah, it already has familiarity. Which is sort of what music does because you want to take something and move on and expand it and move forward. The Beatles, I always feel like people talk about the Beatles the reason they wrote so many great songs is because they used to play so many other people's great songs. When they were at the Cavern Club
Starting point is 01:52:20 playing for hours and hours, they had to know Broadway songs, they had to know every range of style of music. Absolutely. And it informs your mind and your inspiration, you know? So. So this song is called You Really Got a Hole on Me. It is.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Big hit. And of course, I don't know why. You know what? I never connected those dots. Yeah. So thank you, Rob Pruss. That's why he's here. I have two more little clips to play, right?
Starting point is 01:52:41 All right, so let's bring her down. When Smokey sings, you fade it down. That's right. Can you play the very last one that I gave you and then we'll go backwards? Last one? Okay. Yeah. This is from the musical once. This is a thing we put together and it's a variation on Volj. Just came from Newfoundland, man. Like this, all this is amazing. I got to watch this. This was like a little transition moment in the show. But, but, um, do you have a writing credit on this? No, but I Martin Lowe was the arranger and he's got the credit for this, but it's really
Starting point is 01:53:13 Glenn's melodies and Tony. We want a Tony award. We want to do. Did you, did you run? When they won? Yeah. We went, we're on David Leiterman and the view and stuff. I don't have one.
Starting point is 01:53:23 No, you don't get one. We want a Grammy award too. And apparently I can get a certificate that says I've won a Grammy Award. You gotta get that! I know. Is it free? And bring it in! I know.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Well get the fucking certificate. I know. Or you could be like Homer Simpson, oh it's a Grammy, you throw it over your shoulder. Exactly. Oh yeah, the B-sharps. But this is just a little short piece of music from the musical.
Starting point is 01:53:40 So you helped arrange that? Yeah, so Martin was putting it together and I was helping him sort of like come up up with parts to you know refine the piano parts and the string parts or whatever and then and then go on to introduce you to my buddy Larry who's he's he's the guy from the punters he's I think he's listening right now buddy Larry yeah and your other buddy Larry my other buddy Bob Newhart Bob Newhart have you done Shannon Doherty? There's been a bunch of celebrity passings. But Bob Newhart, I've known, we've known forever. Like I used to listen to the Sunday night
Starting point is 01:54:11 funnies and play albums and I would know Bob Newhart. And of course he had the two successful sitcoms, which I was familiar with the first one, which had the Bob Newhart show. Yeah. Which had Newhart and it just knew which had the teacher from the Simpsons who passed away. Right. And this ended Crabopple. And the other one I watched all the time. That's one was in syndication when we were kids.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Yeah. That one was on more often when guys are age. Will you play my second last clip? And then we can talk about it while it's playing. See if you can recognize what this is. Okay. You got it. This is related to once on Broadway and it's from a film actually You could talk it up and hit the post
Starting point is 01:54:52 This is one of the cast members in our post is one of the cast members in our musical once and he was in This film and it's like this iconic thing that he was a part of this he created this thing. Yeah, okay It's not cops. Is it I know they're little beer bottles Yeah perfect perfect perfect You know this film the Warriors yeah the film the more is this from the film the warriors I've never seen the warrior. Oh, it's amazing. I mean either really you gotta see I know sound I know Patrick Kelly was the actor and he's in this scene in this film. He's one of the ensemble people in the film and He created the scene which is like the icon when people talk about the Warriors and they talk about the Warriors come out to play And apparently the director said to him, we
Starting point is 01:55:45 need to do something to like the scene. No, he just made it up. Like he improvised this thing. Warriors come out to play in the moment in the scene because they were trying to talk these other guys, Bob, don't you hate it when somebody references something and you don't get the reference and you feel like you're not part of like, I get that with you guys, your music all the time. Rob gets it a lot from us. I don't, I don't like any who you learn things. No, yeah. I don't hate it. No, I feel like I should know that Warriors reference. I know the movie. I've never seen it. Yeah. Like I, um, cause that didn't, didn't resonate at all. Yeah. Yeah. You just missed it. That's okay. That's all. But I feel like,
Starting point is 01:56:16 uh, he's like banging beer bottles. Yeah. Well, they're like, they're like a little gang of guys. Yeah. And so deep David Patrick Kelly was the actor and he created this The scene in this film which became this iconic thing, but he was with us in once as well. He was also in Twin Peaks He's like a gun. Oh, he's got a lot of So there's a I said, yeah I heard the beer bottles and I was just about to say we were at this Museum in St. John's called the rooms, which is their big museum there and it's a beautiful facility They got lots of great things, but they were talking about traditional Newfoundland music and there's a thing called the ugly stick
Starting point is 01:56:49 Yeah, what you heard of the ugly stick? The ugly stick is literally a stick with a boot on the end and then they take and they put beer bottle caps Yeah on it and they bang it on the ground It's a percussion thing like playing the spoons or something Yeah, and it's that doesn't get used anymore and it's kind of like a kitschy hokey thing But when I heard ition when I heard that yeah beer bottles, I remind me the ugly stick I just saw so I kicked out a song from kill Bill volume 1 and then we've alluded to songs from reservoir dogs In another movie which Bob might be talking about in a minute, but any words to say before I kick this one out. No
Starting point is 01:57:24 Just play it. And I'm with you shoes I wouldn't worry now Well you know friends are worried about me I'm having lots of fun Counting flowers on the wall that don't bother me at all Playing solitaire till dawn with a deck of 51 Smoking cigarettes and watching Captain Kangaroo. Now don't tell me I have nothing to do. So
Starting point is 01:58:14 in pulp fiction in nineteen ninety four, when it was released, the movie is just it's a mind blow of a movie. You watch the posters mounted on the wall right beyond this curtain. Yeah, I have an I have an original poster of it as well from the Carlton Cinema story from the that's the best stolen from the Carlton Cinema by my girlfriend at the time. I have it still. It's my I have it. I saw it at the Cineplex Odeon and not simply so did the with the Ontario place. What's it called? It's here. I saw my brother Steve. Shout out to see whose birthday is next week. I'll be camping. I won't be able to say happy birthday. There you go. Happy birthday,
Starting point is 01:58:46 Steve. Um, and there, uh, is the scene right after. So it's a whole obviously I don't have to tell people the movie movies shown in a non-stop. Oh yeah. In non sequential order, there is one of the movies much like a reservoir dogs where their conversations that have nothing to do with the plot. There's just a, it's just, It's just a mind-blowing... Like a virgin? Yeah, exactly. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
Starting point is 01:59:09 Alright, so in this particular scene, Bruce Willis has just killed... Oh, spoiler alert. Bruce Willis has just killed Vincent Vegas, and he's sitting in his car, his little shitty, his wife's little shitty car, and this is on the radio. And he's singing it, and then he sees Ving Rhames, Marcellus Wallace, and he guns at him. And it's just that, I was like, that's the first time I ever knew that. And I still remember seeing Bruce Willis go, Captain K, he does the bass line, Kangaroo. And I grew up in a household with country music, not in my grandparents, country music, thirteen, twenty, fourteen, thirty
Starting point is 01:59:46 or thirteen, twenty CFGM. Classic country was everything. And so the Statler brothers and I'm actually right now kind of side note, I'm really into the highway men right now. Those three albums, they're like with Waylan and Willie and Johnny Cash and Chris Christofferson, just I've been listening to them a lot and it helped. I when I, when you go east, there's three, like, so you have traditional Irish music, you have traditional newfoundland music and classic country is huge there. And my, my friend Larry, who I was lucky enough to, he plays, um,
Starting point is 02:00:18 unbelievable, uh, guitar. He's just, he's one of the best guitars I've ever seen in my life. And, and you get to sit around with these people and you go to these bars in St. John's and they have basically every day of the week from 6 PM till close, they have live music. It's like, I feel like being in Ireland or something, right? Well, it's better. So you're honestly, I think there's only three places in North America that do this. It's Nashville, uh, New Orleans and St. John's. You see live music all the time, like no matter what. And these guys are all awesome. And there was, I saw this one band, the girl was, she's like, she's not, they're not her, she wasn't
Starting point is 02:00:51 her normal fiddle player. I mean, she's been doing backup and they did a, they did a Tennessee whiskey. That was classic country song. And she sang it. It's just like, and she blew it away. She's like, that's not the regular singer. Like just, um, so this song though, you know, going back to soundtracks, the pulp fiction soundtrack from you know, I didn't know you know, I didn't know so originally in the movie, it was supposed to be a twist contest right. You know when it was good and ends up yeah, ends up being you never can tell yeah. The story goes that Tarantino said or Travolta said to Tarantino. He's
Starting point is 02:01:27 like we can't take. We're not going to have twist for five or minutes. It's too missed on enough, and so the original thing it was going to, but then they got the rights to you never can tell right and use that Chuck Berry said, you know, and ended up making that iconic scene of him taking the just the slow taking their shoes, taking their shoes off to get up there and do the thing. So yeah, I learned so much about music from quit and Tarantino soundtracks. That's why I had to include something from a Tarantino soundtrack. Okay, so lots I want to say
Starting point is 02:01:56 here, but did you know the what actor was playing buddy Holly in that scene at the diner? Yeah, my name is buddy. It's Steve Buscemi. Yeah, of course, so Steve, we say my name is buddy. You want that Amos and Martin or, uh, it was, uh, or Ms and Andy or, or Martin Lewis, whether it was, whether you want a chocolate vanilla. I, I now I'm thinking about that great scene. We talked about like a virgin, but when you, you wouldn't tip the waiter. I don't believe in tipping. Fuck that. Right. That's Steve, Steve Bush. Mr. White. Why do I have to be Mr. Fucking Pink? Right. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 02:02:25 I just want so. Okay. So and then just to go back to Pulp Fiction for a moment, the fun fact, cause you were talking about the car and of course now we got to get the GIMP, right? So who played the GIMP? I think I dropped this on a Toronto mic a couple of times, but this is one of my favorite fun facts. Who played the GIMP? I couldn't tell you. Okay. So the GIMP is played by an actor named Stephen Hibbert. Okay. Stephen Hibbert is the reason Julia Sweeney, who has a cameo in Pulp Fiction. Remember he's just she's an SNL. Her dad, big Joe,
Starting point is 02:02:55 she's got him or her. How did that age? By the way, I feel the age is okay. I did revisit. It was a horrible movie to begin with. It's the worst. I've never seen the movie, but the sketch itself, the way it's an ambiguously non-gendered human being. It's maybe it's very progressive. If you think about it. Okay. Okay. So Julia Sweeney was Julia Hibbert originally when she became famous because of Steven Hibbert, her husband who plays the GIMP and just to bring it back to one of my favorite shows of all time.
Starting point is 02:03:22 The reason Dr. Hibbert on the Simpsons has the name Dr. Hibbert is in tribute to Julia Hibbert. Really? Who became Julia Sweeney? Really? Bob, go Google the fuck out of it. A hundred percent. Yeah. So, so that's all Dr. Hibbert is named after Julia Sweeney.
Starting point is 02:03:39 That's really correct. All right. That's correct. And that, that always seemed to me when I saw Pulp Fiction for the first time. Homer, you've been drinking a lot of gravy. When I saw Pulp Fiction for the first time, the fish out of water moment for me is like, that's Julia Sweeney. That's like from SNL. Like I never, I never understood like, oh, she's just there. Like as the partner of the wolf.
Starting point is 02:03:59 Yep. No, not the partner of the wolf. She owned it, but she was like, okay, what can I, regardless? She's just there with the wolf. Yeah, she was guys were in their t-shirts and yeah She was that she was this her dad owned the place where they were dumping the body in the car, right? Yeah, okay. So That was your jam not mine, right? Yeah We share the same brain Tarantino though was I mean you've already said it But I was so good at putting the soundtracks together this iscing sounds from the sixties and the seventies and things you never thought you were going to love.
Starting point is 02:04:26 Well, you know, we'd never know. You never know where you're going to get exposed to them except for great soundtracks. That's right. And I'm, I'm, I'm afraid that they just, that art is gone. Yeah. The pudding. But, but it exists in the middle is a good example.
Starting point is 02:04:38 Yeah. You know, and here's it the same since Reservoir Dogs. Right. But there are TV series now which would do the same thing. Right. Fair. They'll introduce. Well, I mean, you are TV series now which would do the same thing, right? Fair, well, I mean, you talk about the bear in season one, they use present tense by Pearl Jam at the end of-
Starting point is 02:04:51 Because that creator loves fucking Pearl Jam, which is why there's so much- Ted Lasso had great soundtracks. Ted Lasso has some great soundtracks. The music supervisors were really good at picking things. So it's a similar thing. And licensing is such a big part of how you make music now. So it's interesting about how, you know,
Starting point is 02:05:04 that's probably one of the bigger things about music now is you're making money by selling your music. Well, we talked about Ed Sousa's episode of Trouble. And he said he doesn't understand why a car company hasn't licensed romantic traffic. I don't understand it either. But his traffic is bad. I know, I guess.
Starting point is 02:05:18 Oh, that's probably why. It's not romantic. Because traffic is a negative. There's nothing wrong. But what if it's romantic to be stuck in your car in the traffic? No, it's still bad. Like the whole idea. You see the commercials, you never see the fucking cars stuck in traffic. There's nothing wrong. But what if it's romantic to be stuck in your car in the traffic? No, it's still bad. Like the whole idea.
Starting point is 02:05:26 You see the commercials, you never see the fucking cars stuck in traffic. There's never any traffic. That's right. These cars are just cruising with no cars around. It's beautiful. It's cruising down the side roads. So I think that's why.
Starting point is 02:05:35 I know. Because I said I hope it happens because you have a writing credit on romantic traffic. That's right, I wish. Okay, my last jam here. Geez, another soundtrack I'm sure is in that pile and we'll see it in a minute. Bob brought a bunch of CDs here, but hang on here just from VP of no sales here. What's he saying flowers on
Starting point is 02:05:51 the wall wiki wiki? The song is also referenced in the in die hard, which he's saying come out in ninety five oh die hard with a vengeance. Okay, good and Bruce Willis's character said makes a reference to singing the song in the movie. Very meta. Just a perfect day Feed animals in the zoo Then later a movie too And then home Oh, it's such a perfect day I'm glad I spent it with you.
Starting point is 02:06:50 Oh, such a perfect day, you just keep me hanging on. You just keep me hanging on. Bob Oled, do you have the Trainspotting CD in that pile? I do, I have Trainspotting 1 and 2 here. I fucking love Trainspotting. Love the soundtrack too. Snatch, oh here we go. Problems all left with you
Starting point is 02:07:16 Everybody I'm holding in my hand the Trainspotting CD In which Born Slippy by Underworld would have been played many, many times 100% whilst I DJ'd Thanks for spoiling my mind blow here Oh, sorry But Lou Reed This is Lou Reed's Perfect Day
Starting point is 02:07:34 a song I discovered because it was on the Train Spotting soundtrack in the movie Train Spotting Fucking great song Yup Shout out to Iggy Pop and Left 4 Life 2 You know how Iggy got and Left 4 Life 2. You know how Iggy got his first name? I do not. He was in a band, early days, in a band called the Iguanas.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Oh. And that's how he became known as Iggy. So you know Zach Pop? Does that name mean anything to you? No. Okay, does the name Zach Top mean anything to you? No. This is all neither here nor there, except I just learned from a podcast about Zach Topp, who is a burgeoning country star on the indie country scene or whatever, but Zach Topp, T-O-P, but there's Zach
Starting point is 02:08:14 Popp, who's a pitcher. Okay, so I just, this is all stuff that bounced around my head on bike rides. Okay, so let's get back to Lou Reed, shall we? Rob Bruce is taking a very long pee. I was trying to vamp for him, but okay. So 1972 is when Lou Reed writes this song, Perfect Day, and it's on Transformer, which is his second post-Build-It-Underground solo album. And this is actually the B-side to his biggest hit, Walk on the Wild Side.
Starting point is 02:08:42 This is the B-side to Walk on the Wild Side. This is the B-side to Walk on the Wild Side. This is the B side to Walk on the Wild Side. Cool. This is the B side to Walk on the Wild Side. Now this song, of course, I heard it in 1996, Trainspotting. Did Rob Bruce see Trainspotting? I did, and I think this is the first time I heard this song, probably too, because I didn't know much about Lou Reed.
Starting point is 02:08:58 Really, I mean, not like in depth. Well, what about Velvet Underground? Well, at that time, I was probably starting to learn about them But definitely this song there's a commercial that uses a velvet underground song And they play the fucking commercial so much It's where the woman takes her mom and her daughter to see the northern lights in Iceland The Aurora borealis at this time in this still Cal at this time. I saw that one
Starting point is 02:09:23 Yeah, okay So anyway that commercial gets a lot of your play but I watch a lot only watch on TV is live sports. So I think it just gets played a lot during live sports. So Bob alluded to this. I'm just going to do this. I mean to ruin it. So it was okay. So I have train spotting a CD and I spun it a lot and my first wife and I, we had an apartment at like Young and Charles street, uh, when we were going to U of T and we got a discount on the rent because we were a married couple going to U of
Starting point is 02:09:49 T. It was like a U of T family. Oh, I know about those. Yeah. So we had I can tell you when I left that place, I was paying $429, but that was 1980, 1996 or something, 97. But still, at the the time it was amazing, but we would blast. We would put the fucking stereo to eleven and play the song in the apartment, and it fucking blew our brains like this song Underworld by Bourne Slippy.
Starting point is 02:10:19 And I heard this for the first time. No, what is it? Bour Slippies underworld race. OK, Bob's here. He's the Robert Lawson. Bob, Rob Roberts. Yeah, we're both Roberts. Yes, you're all Roberts. All three of you can just keep it track here at home.
Starting point is 02:10:37 And Bob Newhart's a Robert Mango shit. Only the good day young. We watched last night for the first time, the eight year old watch Mary Poppins cuz she loves the Sherry Bobbins episode of Simpsons yes, so I said oh you got I'm gonna blow your mind and I went to Disney Plus and I put on we watched Mary Poppins and it's kind of amazing that the principal actors are Julie Andrews and Dick Van Dyke this movie's from 1964 if you don't know that 60 years ago. They're both still with us And the mom in that movie the woman who the two kids the mom Okay, if you don't know that 60 years ago, they're both still with us and the
Starting point is 02:11:05 mom in that movie, the woman who the two kids, the mom, Glenis Johns, I believe her name is. She died in 2024. Wow. How old was she? 100. Is that crazy? He writes Mary Poppins has the opposite of the poltergeist curse. Okay, but they are okay. So there's two kids in the movie, Jane and Michael. I think I always remember in the movie, Jane and Michael. Are they gone? Oh no, Jane's still with us. She's like 68. Michael doesn't make it to the eighties. The guy contracts some disease or something in India and dies at like the age of 21. Oh, that's unfortunate. Yeah. Mary Poppins too. Pretty good. Holds up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:40 It's fantastic. It's really good with wind men. Well, Miranda. Yeah, it's fantastic. It's really good with Wynne Manuel Miranda. You wrote all the songs. Yeah, it's really good. I haven't seen it yet. My kids love both of them. Watch the second one too. It's also one. It's really good. They're right there.
Starting point is 02:11:52 The tile is right next to each other. They're right next to each other. We took them. There's a great rep theater in the beaches called The Fox. And we take our kids there as often as we can. And we saw the original Mary Poppins there. And we saw the new one, The Return of Mary Poppins. Excellent Emma Watson, no Emma Blunt, Emily, Emily Blunt. I was a product.
Starting point is 02:12:16 She's wonderful in it. Mary did the dude from the office, right? No. Is that true? Oh yes, John Krasinski. You're right. Okay, I don't know. I can't keep track of who's dating him, but Meryl Streep's in this sequel, right? Yeah. Okay. Cause she was in the Devil Wears. Songs are really good. It's really good. Yeah. It's good. They tried to keep the spirit of the original. It's not as good as Born Slippy by... Okay. So a couple of fun facts about this. Okay. This is actually, so this song is called Born Slippy Nux, N-U-X-X in all caps there. And that is the B side to another song called Born Slippy. So I guess
Starting point is 02:12:45 this is Born Slippy Nux that we're hearing now. One is on Trainspotting 1 and one is on Trainspotting 2 soundtrack. So the Nux, the one I'm hearing now that I fell in love with, is in Trainspotting, which comes out in 1996. Danny Boyle described it as the heartbeat of the film, capturing its euphoric highs following intense lows. Fucking love it. Friday night, 1400. What is it? 1400, Plains Road East, Burlington.
Starting point is 02:13:16 He called it Gurlington. We would do New Year's Eve from here. And we played this leading up to New Year's Eve because it has such a long trail on it And he was able to do the countdown into perfect. It was perfect and I with Martin it was Martin Street DJ Dwight myself and Just crazy watching people just lose it going up to midnight and then And then we would usually play New Year's Day by you too as the first Bob on the 15th anniversary of Martin Streak's passing, I dropped the entire three hour, I know Robbie Jay put this together, the three hour tribute to Martin Streak that aired on CFNY.
Starting point is 02:13:58 I put it in the Toronto Mike feed. Did either of you hear that? I've listened to it before. Yeah, I heard some of it before. The one thing, as I listen back to it, and it's been a while, because I've been holding on to those files since 2009. I'm like, well, one day in 15 years, I'll have a podcast feed or whatever. But the one thing that is difficult about it is the allusions to how amazing he was. Radio will never be the same.
Starting point is 02:14:23 What a legend. We'll miss you, Martin and the whole idea that two months prior to his passing that Martin streak was fired by chorus on everything old is new again. So it's almost like and one illusion, but I think because I listened very closely when I dropped it, Iver Hamilton says the sentence back when Martin was on the radio, he's something or other. Okay, this is his and that's the only illusion or reference or that to the fact that Martin Street wasn't like like like bookie who was on
Starting point is 02:14:54 Indy and then passed away. Martin Street, there was he was on the radio, was fired and two months later passed away. Yeah, Martin, you know, we it's funny. He's been so that it like almost canonized like he's all it's all it's unbelievable. The way people talk about him and think about him, but he hears. I think why he really only did that. It's all he was. He was just Martin streak in the clubs on the radio and not just that, but but not when I say just,
Starting point is 02:15:25 I mean, but that's all he defined himself by. And when it was taken away, I don't think he knew where to go. And I worked three years with him real, real close. In quarters like this, there were like tiny DJ booths for three years I produced to show. I believe, I have a good authority, he had the tattoo of the station tattooed on his ass. Oh yeah, I believe, I have un-good authority, he had the tattoo of the station tattooed
Starting point is 02:15:46 on his ass. Oh yeah, I mean. But I mean, he's like, his identity was. Was related to that. I'm 102.1's live to air voice. Yep, he was. And so when so much, there's so much music that, again, the irony was he wasn't even playing it.
Starting point is 02:16:02 It was other people. I DJed for him. I DJed, I filled in for DJ Dwight a couple times on the air and DJ Dwight and then Craig G came on after and so the I have Paul Dinger before that, but you know the irony is like he wasn't even playing the music. He wasn't even picking the music, but he would tell you if you played a song he didn't like. He would do that for sure, but and it's amazing to think about a guy who, you know, again, I
Starting point is 02:16:25 think I think it's a lot. There's a lesson there. Never mind the, you know, the quote unquote, you know, you're like you said, what you said, the demons, the whatever it is. I stopped using that term because the drug use is used with me, but it's because mental illness is not demons. No, no, mental illness and addiction is what we're talking about. I think we've come even since oh nine. We've come so far with how we look at addiction. People didn't even want to say it when he passed away, right? That's a good point. I think the lesson is beyond that is we all play roles in our lives, and if we only play one role,
Starting point is 02:16:56 and that role is taken away from us, you're fucked. Like just to be, for lack of a better word, you need to realize that you have, that we need and again I've always said this if I do another podcast. I want to talk about and it's it's called Family systems therapy is what it's called and it's about the roles you play in your life and in your brain you've got you know like that Jedi scene where they've got like Samuel Jackson and And Yoda all sitting around you have those are every. Every role you play is one of those seats and you, but if you don't have enough roles and the one role that takes up all your life is gone, you got nothing. So you got to figure out your roles, man. Like I, you know, it's how you define the roles too. It's how you, it's the story you tell yourself. You think your role is cognitive behavior theory right there. That's that voice right there. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, you know, earlier, I think right off the top, we talked about Fight Club.
Starting point is 02:17:50 Yeah. And there's the line in Fight Club where he says, you are not your job. Yeah. And I think particularly right now, so many people at Chorus, but also other radio stations as well, the downsizing, the cutting,
Starting point is 02:18:01 so many of these public broadcasting personalities are getting the manila envelopes slid to them at a table with, right? Or maybe it's via zoom and we're going to courier you some papers or whatever. Right? Mine was zoom. Right. It's most and more important than ever to realize that you are not your job. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And hopefully you can find something else to make you feel complete. I've been very and that's part of the conversation that I want to have with people is how lucky like here's the thing. If this is act two or act for whatever it is, how lucky am I that I got to spend as many years as I did
Starting point is 02:18:38 doing what I love and so if I do have to go take a job that is just a job fucking suck it up buttercup like a story like no, maybe it, maybe it's okay. You got to do. How many people don't get did my dad wanted to work in a lead smelting factory for fifteen years? No God damn dj right. He did dj on the side. Yes, he did. He did do that, but that's what he loved. Right. So he did that. He loves that hustle. That's right. He loved that. He did not love working in a lead smelting factory. I'm lucky. My main job has been something I love, so maybe I have to figure it out too.
Starting point is 02:19:11 Hey now, this was great. I really enjoyed this and I love I look forward. I told the Rob when we were waiting for Bob to show up. It turns out he's in my fucking basement, but I said to Rob, I said it's Sunday morning. I woke up and I thought, Oh, my buddies are coming over to listen to music with me and talk about music And I was very excited you brought a whole collection to it's like a singles the crow Reality bites what about do you guys are you familiar with natural born killers? That soundtrack is killer. Yes, but it's all merged and like segue together. Yeah, you can't pick no no no yeah Yeah, it's like a pre mix. Oh god. That's Oliver Stone, but that is who wrote that, who wrote the screenplay. Yeah. Quentin Tarantino.
Starting point is 02:19:48 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the set, but yeah, the music is so important. Yep. Saturday Night Fever. One of the first, yeah. Oh, the snatch soundtrack guy, Richie, come on ghost town. Why you talk about, uh, the Steve Buscemi. Uh, yes. And then the Steve Buscemi. Yeah. So much. Anyway, I just grabbed, I literally went to my one shelf and pulled it. And of course, to bring it full circle here, I don't know why I said that, but I have a hat behind me that says, things are as bad as they seem, which Hayden Desser gave me
Starting point is 02:20:13 during his visit. And of course, he has the song in the Steve Buscemi directed film. He did the soundtrack. Oh. Hayden does? Oh, I don't know that. Hayden was tapped to do the theme song for I think it was Steve Buscemi's
Starting point is 02:20:26 directorial debut Which I'm now vamping to find trees lounge So the movie trees lounge which was from nineteen eight ninety six and was directed by Steve Buscemi the soundtrack was by the main song. That was back when he was the the next Neil Young. You might recall there was a period in the mid 90s. Oh yeah. Okay gents, we don't have a topic for next month but we'll talk about it. But absolutely loved this and I appreciate you guys dropping by. Love to
Starting point is 02:21:01 see you guys. Yeah it's always fun. Thank you. Thanks for having us. How long do you think we went? This is over two. 221 right now. Wow. There was a lot of shit. That might be our longest one.
Starting point is 02:21:12 We had a lot of talk before we started the jam. So I knew we were in trouble. We did. Sorry. When I got the note from the producer to get to the fucking music. That's right. That's right. And that brings us to the end of our 1,524th show.
Starting point is 02:21:26 You can follow me on Twitter, bluesky. I'm all over the place at Toronto Mike. Go to torontomike.com. Bob is at Bob Willett, rhymes with Gillette, but it's with a W and Rob Proust. It's Rob Proust with an X at the end. Follow him. Much love to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery.
Starting point is 02:21:43 I love my Sunnyside Session IPA. Palma Pasta, we have lasagnas for the boys. Thank you to Palma Pasta in Mississauga and Oakville. Recyclemyelectronics.ca. The Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team. Shout out to Keith Stein. I gotta call you up and let you know when the kids wanna jump in that pool of yours. That's not an euphemism. And Ridley Funeral Home. See you all. I'm going camping, so I'm going to be offline for a while. So don't try to reach me for a little bit.
Starting point is 02:22:12 But then I will be back, because on Thursday evening, Steve Kane, the last punk, the punk rock president of Warner Music, Steve Kane is making his John & Mike debut and he's got stories to tell. See you all then. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the smell of snow warms me today And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine, and it won't go away
Starting point is 02:22:51 Cause everything is rosy and gray Well, I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun go down on Shakalakur But I like it much better going down on you

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