Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST31: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1534

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

In this 31st episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out bodies of water jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada, The Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball Team and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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And Ridley Funeral Home, pillars of the community since 1921. Today, returning for this 31st episode of Toast is Rob Pruse and Bob Willett. Welcome back, Rob and Bob. Nice to see you. How are you, sir? Good, good. Now I want to get a full update on, I'm sure we're on day, whatever, 15 or 20 of Bob's poker dealing career.

Yeah, oh yeah. I want a full update in a moment. Sure. But Rob, I have the glass of beer in front of you. Uh-huh. And it's not called a glass, Bob, help me. Is that a stein? What are we?

That's not a stein, that's too small for a stein. No, that's not a stein. What is that called? That's a pint glass. It's not even a full pint, actually. No. No, because a pint is 500 milliliters, approximately. It's not a Stein. What is it called? That's a pint glass. It's not even a full pint actually. No. No, because a pint is 500 milliliters approximately. It's almost a full can.

This is 475, I bet. Or 470 something. So Rob, have a sip. So obviously Bob and I will crack open our cans, but I poured yours in a glass just now. And he's not telling you what it is. I'm gonna tell you what it is, because I thought of you.

You thought of me? Yeah. Really? I think of you, Rob Pruss, as a man of German heritage. Yes. Yeah. And you spoke often. So remind me, uh, is your mother German? No, my mom is not. My dad is German, was German. My, I still have relatives there, um, who live in Munich, Germany. My dad was from Berlin originally and the German heritage was large in our

house growing up. I even have good photos of me with later housing when I was like, Oh, nice. Is Munich in Bavaria? It is. Yeah. Have you ever been to the Bavarian? There's like a beer place in the Hoffman house. My parents lived there for 10 years. Oh wow. Nineties. They moved back there. So they sold our house. I know. I know my audience. I've been to Hoffman house in Vegas. It's amazing. Yes. Okay. So in the Bavarian tradition, this beer you have in front of you is Great Lakes breweries, Weiss beer. Oh, am I saying that right? It's vessel condition to provide natural carbonation.

It's a German style ale. So I wanted you to have a sip and if a gentleman of yours, like yourself, of German heritage, this is like their German beer at Great Lakes. And I want to know what you think. Weiss beer is very famous in Germany. Vice is white in German.

So it's the lighter beer, which I can tell by looking. Hogarden was one of the more famous ones that started off. Yep. All right. Have you had a sip yet? I just want to know. And then Bob, you can, you got your.

I've got mine ready to go. You go. Okay. So three, two, one. Okay. I'm clinking. So cheers to you gentlemen. Good to see you. Cheers. Prost. Next time we gather, it'll be post labor day.

Like, doesn't that like kind of, I can't believe summer, what the summer is ending. So what do you think? How is that? That's very good. This is a vice beer. That is, do you taste any banana in there did you put a banana in this did you spike okay here's it's a banana vigorous poor produces a pillowy white

head atop a hazy golden body aroma is big banana accompanied by clove and bubblegum sweetness a soft creamy and slightly ever- effervescent tang mouthful gives way to ripe banana and more clove. And this Heffenweizen- Heffenweizen, yeah. Finishes dry and refreshing. It is dry and refreshing. I don't know about the banana and the bubble gum

and all that. Give it a good whiff though. Yeah, I don't really smell it. Give it a good whiff. I just go right into the drip. Yeah, you just go right, yeah, because you get it on the, get it on the nose, then the palate. Funny, as soon as you said the word banana as I was taking a sip though my mind

You know your mind plays tricks. I'm like, oh my god, there's banana flavor in there. That's right. Okay, enjoy responsibly No, Bob. Will that last time we spoke? Yes, you were I think you were still in training mode Yes to deal poker. That's right. So I need to know how is that going for you, buddy? Well, you know, I a poker. That's right. So I need to know how is that going for you, buddy? Well, you know, I, uh, if you listen to Bob's basement podcast, you've got a quick update that I lasted a grand total of four nights. Um, it was an interesting, uh, ordeal, no deal. That's funny. Um, yeah. So, uh, here, so I'll be upfront. It's only $17 an hour. And I was depending that I was assuming the tips, which is a big part of the casino culture, big part of gambling culture. I've been part of that before. Thus the bingo, Bob. But the tips are pooled at the,

and then you don't get your tips until the end of the CNE. And I was told that it works out to an extra maybe three or $4 an hour, which in, so what I saw while I was there and I was making The way it works is you deal for 40 minutes and you you take a break for 20 you deal for 40 you break Take a break for 20 there were times when I was dealing and in 40 minutes. I would make $10 in tips Because you saw that I saw and I have so I would put them in to the tip thing And but yet you look around the casino and there are tons of people not working that when you go to a casino,

you see people they're always sitting there with their hands on the dealers standing. And so I was like, why are these, I'm busting my ass. Um, and I'm at a really like it's the, that being said, being in the high stakes poker room, personality does not matter. They don't give a shit about how just as long as you're good at what you do and because these people it's a minimum of three hundred dollars just to get into a game. It starts at that. I was dealing games where it was a thousand dollar pot. It's very high. I

was very nervous to be honest by the third second. So I did that for two nights by the third night. I was a floor supervisor. I had I had said I'll so basically you just and I was I took to being a floor supervisor because what you're doing is you're getting people coming in, you're putting them at tables cause there's different games. There's five, 10, one, two, 30, you know, 20, 40, all these different things. And, uh, by the third night I was doing that and I wasn't loving any of it. I was, uh, and I was realizing that even if it was $17 plus an extra $5 an hour,

that's still only $22 an hour, that's still only $22 an hour. And they gave me straight overnights. So I was starting at either seven 30 or eight 30 at night and going to four or six in the morning. And I, by the fourth night I was on my way in and I couldn't get to my parking spot because there were so many events at the CNE. There was the beer fest.

There was a, I was there. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. There was a beer fest. There was a, I was there. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. There was a beer fest. There was a concert. There's an Argo game that it was. I couldn't get in. So I drove around, drove through Liberty, trying to find a spot just to get, couldn't stay in my car. I was in my car for like 90 minutes trying to find, I just, you know, I'm done and I never that shit. Yeah. Fuck that shit. So I listened to Bob's basement. So I actually heard that. So I heard pretty much what I did. My tongue was in my cheek when I'm like, how's that going? I knew it happened. I

know. I know you finished the fourth shift. No, no, no. I, I, no, I did three shifts. That's it. Oh, so you, so before your fourth shift, it was, I had called to say it's 10 after eight, my eight, my, my, my shift starts at eight 30. It's 10 after eight. I'm on the lake shore. They're not letting me into the CNE. I'm going to have to go around, get back on the gardener, come back around through Spadina and, and they said, yeah, we're getting a lot of that today. I'm like, okay, cool. So I do that. And then by like, so nine o'clock I'm still, I'm still in Liberty village trying to find a place to park

so I can walk underneath by nine o'clock, nine PM at night. And I had worked until six in the morning the day before I got home. I have questions and Rob, if you have questions, we're going to know gently grill because you know, please, I'm just getting worn out listening to it. All right. So, uh, imagine, do you think you would have hung around longer? Maybe if you got a few more attaboy, Bobby, like you're doing a good job. Yes, I have said that right from the beginning. I have learned about myself and my when I am in a leadership role, nothing works better than reminding people that you're happy they're doing their job. Even just, there's three types of recognition, right? There's everyday recognition.

Thanks for doing your job, which is nobody ever does. And then there's above and beyond. Oh my God, I can't believe you did that extra mile. And then there's also like term, like how long, there's a great book called The Carrot Principle, which I have read. If I am a leader. That is one of the main things that I use as my leading principles, which is recognition.

You have to let people know they're doing well. And I was never once told I was doing well in this job. You're just a number there. And look, hey, they got their system. Yeah, they got their system. You're only there for six weeks, eight weeks, whatever it is. And they over hire

because they know people aren't going to cut it. And I didn't cut it. But I also was never told I was good at anything. And I need that. I am needy as fuck. I get it. I admit it fully. Also, if I may, because I think we're wired similarly, is it possible you feel like you are better than that? Like you are better than being a number, a commodity. You're not just human resources. You're not just a body that's like, you know, like a soldier, whatever. Yeah. On one, on one of my, my next podcast that I did with this life coach, a career coach guy, the Steve Gazard guy that I'm working with, you know, he asked me, what did I learn from that? I said, I said, I want to learn. I don't want to work for 70 because you

learned your value and, and, and there, so there's your, I know what my value is, but you're right. I think you're like, I don't want, this is one of the things that I'm dealing with right now. Right. I don't want a regular job. I don't want to be, I want a job and I don't know if this is ego, but I want a job where people go, Oh cool. You know, when you tell them what you do, like a roadie. Yeah, even that would be cool. Yeah, for sure. I'm a roadie. Oh cool. You know, I can't see myself now again. I, you know what the, the world may dictate. I have to go and work and be in a cubicle and an insurance company or something or at the LCBO

Which is all fine. Those are all fine jobs. I've just been fortunate enough to not have a job like that in a very long time I did when I was a teenager and in my early 20s, but I don't know I haven't and I can't see myself going back to that Well, you don't have to see yourself going back to that. You're in a transitional time and I think that the world is calling to you to find something greater. Well, thank you, that's very nice. That's the positive way that we should all be looking at our lives. No, absolutely.

There are guys who will show up at the casino and do the job and that's literally, they live for that. Yeah, oh, and they love it and it's great. Good for them. But for you, it's a different thing and it's good. I mean, it's a difficult thing. We all go through these moments where you're like, it's the human struggle is to say,

what am I meant to be doing here? It's very limbo-like right now and it's not the fun dance more. No. You know. We all live in limbo. I've been listening to this book on, it's a Carl Jung analyst named James Hollis

and he's sort of talking about life and like reasons for doing the things we do in life and finding the things you do. And there's a quote from Young that said, I'm gonna badly paraphrase it. He said something like, life is a short pause between two eternities. Wow.

And I'm like, yeah, like that's like, that's blip on the radar. Yeah. This message is resonating with the listenership at live.torontomike.com. So J-Ho says, I'm in the same boat as Bob right now. I don't want a normal job again. Yeah, I hear that It's it's it's an interesting time now. I'm supplementing right now

I my non normal job now is I've gone back to DJing in the clubs and In bars and different things so that I'm lucky enough that I have that skill set that I can do it But the funny thing is they're paying people less than what I was getting paid 20 years ago to DJ, like way less. I think because it's not an investment anymore. You just need a computer, right? Whereas when I started, you needed to buy all this music and people just obtain music now. And but it is funny because every kid who's got a laptop thinks they're a computer.

So the value has gone down. So it's very interesting. So I'm reading between the lines. You might do like a shitty job if the money is good. But if the money is shit, you're only doing it if you love doing it. I did the money is shit for 25 years. So yeah, like I did in radio,

I did the money was never great in radio. I did it cause I loved it and cause I was good at it. And because I think the people who I worked for liked what I did too. I, yeah, I mean, look, if somebody comes along with a great job, that's punching numbers or or some I don't you I don't know I feel great 10 math. So that's like order entry. I don't know. Yeah, I guess I do they even have that anymore It's still 17 bucks an hour or what is actually what is 15? So yeah

bucks an hour for order entry Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean my ego right now is telling me that I don't want to go do just any Joe job but at a certain point, you know, when, uh, when the old Pogi runs out or, you know, then, uh, I'm going to have to get my shit together and do what needs to be done to take care of my family. And you mentioned having a, a life coach career coach. How does he define what he is? So he's more of a career guy. You haven't heard this episode of Bob's basement, the career coach, you don't listen to Bob. No, no, you know what? Actually I did listen to that,

but I forgot to put those two together. Yeah, Steve Gazard's his name, yeah. Impactive Learning is his company, and I've been lucky enough to have him come into my life. He's really good. I feel great after talking to him. Do you talk to him often? I've talked to him basically since this has all happened.

I think I've talked to him twice, but he's and but he's been very kind to say let's do this more often So I'm gonna make it a little bit more regular. He's given me some great Exercises to try to help me kind of figure out what what what's next? Yep, you know, okay keep us posted Bob We're all rooting for you. Sorry As a guy who worked at the CNE as a teenager for three years I didn't even know like so they opened the poker yeah the casino the CNE see any open well I don't know if they did then this that the CNE is not open yet the key the the casino what like you say is a teenager so the casino didn't open till 91 so you

might it might not have been open yeah I was there 80 no I was there 89 90 and 91 so you would have been there the first time it opened I don't know if it I so this year I know they're talking about extending it after as well so because they had asked too young to get in there oh yeah no you wouldn would have been there the first time it opened. I don't know if it, I, so this year I know they're talking about extending it after as well. So, cause they had asked. It's too young to get in there. Oh yeah. No, you wouldn't have been allowed. Yeah. So it's in the better living center and look, it like it's a place, if you like to gamble,

the T the tables there, like they don't have slots or anything, but the tables, you can get affordable tables there because that's one of the complaints. If you go to one of the bigger casinos, it's $25 a hand. You can get $10 hands at, at the casino at CNE. Did you recognize any high rollers like somebody like, Oh my God, it's no, no, there is a group of people. They all know each other because I was playing, I was, I was dealing at what's called the Omaha table. So that's a version. There's two versions. There's Texas hold them.

And then there's Omaha and Omaha is a higher stakes. Uh, like you can't like it, like the blinds, if you know the game are 20 and 40, it's a huge, like you start with 20 and $40 and the game is much higher, uh, impact. So I didn't recognize anybody. Although by the third night, I recognized everybody because it was the same people. Right. Oh my God. I imagine doing that all summer. Okay. I worked at the C&E. What did you do at the time? I was 16. What'd you do actually? 42 years ago tomorrow? I worked. We opened for the police. Oh, 42 years ago. You opened for the, I just remembered it was August 13th, 19th, August 13th, 1982. So I worked for one afternoon. Oh, you

talked about the police. Yeah. He played the fucking police. Okay. Okay. So, uh, before we catch, catch up with Rob Bruce and I want to let you know, I threw out the first pitch. My son, yeah, I watched the clip. Elvis, uh, didn't know what a wild pitch was. This was a weird moment. Cause I, you know, we're same, similar vintage and he's a baseball fan. His son is a huge baseball fanatic and he goes, Oh, you threw a wild pitch. I'm like, what are you talking about? Cause I threw off the mound. So my pitch was a bit low. So it bounced. Bounce. Yeah. It bounced right in front of the catcher, but easy.

Bounce on the plate. Just in front of the plate maybe. And then Rob Butler, who was the catcher, a world series champion and an FOTM who signed this ball that I grew. He caught it on one, like one little bounce. It was pretty good pitch, but it was a low. It was low. It was definitely a ball.

But that does not a wild pitch make. I had to explain to Elvis what a wild pitch was. He thought anything that like wasn't caught, like if it bounces in front of the catcher and the catcher catches it, he was calling that a wild pitch was ridiculous. It could have been, it wasn't, you know, I mean, does he know the difference between a wild pitch and a past ball? Well, the wild pitch and pass ball is just whose fault is it?

It's the pitcher's fault or the catcher's fault. Right? So a wild pitch is the pitcher's fault. Anyways, regardless, it was a little low, but it was a great experience and here's the ball. Yeah. Thank you. It was a good, I enjoyed the clip. Signed by Rob.

Yeah. Everybody taking that video footage. And I had to think, all the, I said, also Elvis's kid was there and that, that boy's friend. And then I saw Tobias Vaughn showed up and his son was there. And then I had a couple of my kids there and every kid I'm like,

come with me to the mound. Like you'll be one of the guys. So this posse came to me. We all came to the mound. It was really cool. That was very fun to do. And then later, Polly who is daughter of Ben Rainer showed up and everybody ran the bases. So it was a great, great time. So family and remember no ticket required. So get your butt to Christie pit, support the team. They might not win their ninth championship since, uh, 19, uh, 67, but they, uh, will improve next year and they're competitive. They, they scored 22 runs recently in a game. They won last night.

So support this great community team, Toronto Maple Leafs baseball and Rob Bruce, you sent me a note saying, do I have any more books? Yep. Are you selling them? What's going on here, Ben? No, but I wanted to pass it along because when I got the one, like we got the months ago and I wanted to just pass it along to somebody else who might be interested in it. And so I put a little message on Facebook and I got a lot of replies actually. And then I thought-

How many people replied to say, uh, I would love that book. There was like four or five people. How many books here? Five there. Two, three, four, five. Okay. So take, take those five books. Keith Stein, CEO of Toronto, made belief space, but would want you to be happy. And I'm happy to pass them along to people who enjoy them as well. Sign them. Mike should sign them. There you go. I'll sign them. I threw out a first pitch. That's right. I'll get Rob

Butler. Did you hear you guys play hardball as kids hardball? No, I did. I tried out play two years. I played, I played, I played five. Where did you play East York, Toronto Greenwood, which became Toronto Dundas and is now just East York. Yeah. Yeah. I played twice, two years in a row when I was like eight or nine hard ball. Okay. I was more of a K and type C. I think something I was right. I was, I was a good pitcher. I you were right field. Oh yeah. Oh, you were that bad. I was right. I was, I was a good pitcher. I did. You were right. Oh yeah. Oh, you were telling my wife. I was telling my wife the other day. I hated it so much. Oh, that's Nessman. Yeah. I stood on the right last lesson. Really? I still in the right field and prayed that they would, the ball would never come my way. Do you remember less Nessman? He would be, he would hear like he would, his,

I guess his parents make him a new violin lessons or something. And then he kind of closed his eyes and he puts up his glove and then the ball lands. That's great. Yeah. I played for quite a while. Did you? I loved it. I loved it. I think I broke a kid's ribs though. Pitching went like, yeah, it was, uh, I wanted to show them the heat. Anyways. Awesome. Here we go. So we're going to introduce the topic now and then we'll catch up along the way. Uh, shadow to Palm a pasta. Again, I, uh, said this earlier, but the patriarch of the Palm a pasta family,

Marcello Petrucci passed away at the age of 100. Oh, so life well, life well lived, you know, shout out to Ridley funeral home. But a hundred years. Well done. I saw the Anthony Petrucci wrote posted on social media. It was just Bravo Papa. So life well lived, but no more CELIO, no Palma pasta, so much love to palmer pasta. Okay, so Bob, you did not choose to kick out this song. No, because we were using as an example. Whilst we were talking, it's true. I saved it for you. Actually, I just thought, you know what, to be fair, if it was songs that we love, I like this

song. I don't love this song. It's a good song. It's on Pearl Jam's first album. It's I like it a lot's on Pearl Jam's first album. I like it a lot, but I just thought, you know what? I'm, I'm wondering if the FOTM and the people listen are like, okay, Bob enough with the goddamn Pearl Jam. So that about our friend, Rob Bruce and Elton John. Do you cook your own queen? That's true. And actually today I usually try. Oh, I usually try to mix up my my selections based on era and but two of mine are definitely from the same era today. I realized so

you know what I like. Look, I like this song. It's not I wouldn't put it even in my top twenty favorite pro jam songs, so probably why I wouldn't do it weaker cut on ten. Yeah, I don't know. It's good. I here's the thing because we were every like there are so many references to, you know, we were talking about birds. We did bird jams, but there are more references to the ocean in pearl jam songs than I think anything else. If you look, there's like a word diagram, Eddie, Eddie's a surfer, right, right. So he spent a lot of time in San Diego and they tour Australia just so he can surf like he loves surfing. So the ocean has such a huge influence on his writing. You can

find every album. You could write an article on ocean references on on Pearl Jam so but we were talking specifically about specific so I well, you know, we will talk about it as he goes, yeah, because I would interpret this is completely valid. This is a body of 100%. Oh, it doesn't say the Atlantic Ocean and it doesn't say the Pacific Ocean song in the title. There's a body of water. Fair enough. Danger Bay's Ocean Hellman, by the way, early crush for me. If Ocean Hellman is listening, we should help him. Hit me up. Mike at Toronto Mike.com. You don't have cable as a kid. No. Well, at some point, much music and TSN showed up, but I don't remember what year that was

That's 80 45 kind of feeling maybe later for me, but okay, so ocean But there's another game that popped in my head that none of us chose but this one will take you back down by the oh Yeah, for sure It's a great one back to my home I dare not go If I do My mother would say Did you ever see a goose kissing a moose down by the bay down by the

No, you should I loved right he's very he's very active on Twitter you should talk to to him. Oh, he'd be the best. Would you do? Would you allow him to zoom because he's a west no raffy raffy consumer? I raffy wasn't really a part of my my childhood. I was like I had sesame street albums and mini pops, yeah, the originals and stuff, but my kit, my my wife's family were huge raffy baby beluga banana phone, all that stuff. So when we had kids, I got introduced, I'm like, this is great. He's just timeless. Canadian. I actually saw him at Roy Thompson. Holly was amazing.

Wow. If you listen to the episode where I kicked out the jams, you'll hear a rafi song. Yep. You're in the rain. Yep. Big rafi. Rafi. There's a sleepy time collection of his stuff. It's so great. Love it. Yeah. Actually I've kicked out a rafiy head here. Raffy, there's a sleepy time collection of his stuff. It's so great. Love it. Yeah. Actually, I've kicked out a raffy song on here. That's Sunflower. Yeah, I did. Yeah.

Yep. OK, so now everybody knows this is the kind of thing we're doing. It's called Bodies of Water Jams. And as long as the title of this song references a body of water, I think we'll allow it and we'll go through it and see. That's where we got it. Because I could have gotten to make sure it was in the title.

I had. Yeah, that was because otherwise I would have had Blue Rodeo out in the middle of Lake Ontario. What's the title of that one? Lost Together, Lost Together. I would have had that, but it's not message. But there is a line and I can't that iconic line of out in the middle of Lake Ontario, which everybody sings when you see them in Ontario. Hey, is there any chance? Did we kick that out recently on toast?

It got kicked out on Toronto Mike. That feel like it was a toast episode where we actually had the same conversation. I'm having a deja vu moment. I think it's possible, but I don't think it's recently. I don't remember. I don't recall. All right. So you want to get to the jam and then we'll catch up along the way here. But Rob Pruss, you lead us off. All right. Words before your first jam. No, um, you can say no, um, like, hold on here. Like it's either yes or no. Right. So if you say no, I'm going to start

playing it. No, don't start playing. No, um, I have something to say. No, um, wait, this was probably the song that came to my head immediately. So I was sort of thinking, Oh, I'll try it. And maybe everybody will pick it. It came to my head right away as well. Yes it did. Thank you for this out and then we got some fun facts along the way. It hasn't hit me yet. Not lost together. Oh right sorry yeah. Sorry Blue Rodeo fans. Thank you Andrew Warren. Come with me, my love. Not the honey drippers version. To the sea, the sea of love.

To be discussed. Ha, TPG. I want to tell you how much I love you. How much I love you Do you remember when we met That's the day I knew you were my baby I know you were my baby How much I love you And Tom Waits did a weird version of the song in that film. All right. So let me bring her down. Let's hear from Rob Proust kicking out Sea of Love by Phil Phillips.

Phil Phillips. Exactly. His real name was John Philip Baptiste. This was July 1959. This was on the charts. 65 years ago. How old were you back then? I was seven. No. So this is like the early days of rock and roll, right? Like 1959, it was like when you go back and listen to music from that era it's all magical. So of course in my mind the version that I thought of was the Honeydrippers. Yes.

Because we all knew the Honeydrippers. It was released 40 years ago. It was released on my birthday in 1984. Went to number one in Canada. Can I tell you a weird association I have with the Honeydrippers version of Sea of Love? Yeah. I have a weird associate because I think because of much music. Uh huh. The Honeydrippers much music, the honey drippers wave, the wave babies by honeymoon came out around the same time. Right. The videos are the similar videos.

I was like Robert plant was in the school. I was, was in honeymoon suite. Right. I was only like a kid, but it's like, like, ah, I know have such an association with those two songs. Yeah. And it's one of those songs, wave babies. And that's funny. Sea of love. You, you think of that video immediately. I see Robert on the beach and all the, but then you also think of the glenora fairy. That's funny. That's wild. Now do you Rob Proust?

Cause I'm about to kick out your, uh, bonus jam, which will kind of lead to more, but do you have any more facts about the honey? Not really. No, the honey drippers, the honey drippers themselves. Yeah. Like, okay. So I actually, what's the story with my introduction before you go to the honey drippers, can I give you a few more about Phil? Yeah. So Phil got a gold record jam. Okay. Phil got a gold record for this cause it's sold over a million copies, but for years afterwards, he complained that he only got $6,800. Wow. For the whole thing, the whole thing. So those were the days. I mean, it's an endless story of musicians not making the money today.

It's this name old story never you know people make music They they contribute to the culture and people will revere them and think of them forever But financially it's not it's a it's not always a guarantee and it doesn't really matter. So anyways honeydrippers. Yeah Okay, so let's get into it. So good How this became a hit in this opening opening? I know we're saying what a weird pop time It's so amazing that eighties were so great for pop the fact that they hear What did hardcore Led Zeppelin fans think of this What about guys like me who know this song before we know that Zeppelin, right? This is my introduction to me too

Probably yeah for us who are a little bit older, it was like, wow, Robert Plant is doing this weird, cool, old fashioned song. Yeah. And even for me it was an introduction. He's doing music from the fifties. It's like a standard, right? Like essentially. Basically. He might as well be, you know, New York, New York. So the story was that the president of Atlantic Records, Ahmed Erdogan, wanted to put this album together of songs that he loved from the fifties. And so Robert Plant was like, he chose him as the lead singer for the band.

But it was like a super group. Paul Schaeffer was in the band. I was gonna say the band was like, it's not just like it's a band, it's a super group. Jeff Beck. Jeff Beck's in the honey droopers. This is what I need to learn. I just know Robert Plant on vocals.

And my introduction to Robert Plant, which is similar to my introduction to David Johansson, is Buster Poindexter. So I don't even know New York Dolls. Hot, hot, hot? Yeah. Hot, hot, hot. Yes.

Yeah, Buster Poindexter. Yeah, so like I'm seeing videos of Buster Poindexter and then I'm seeing this guy and I'm like, oh, it's Buster Poindexter. I don't know what New York Dolls are. Literally, it's my introduction. Robert Plant, before I know anything about Led Zeppelin, I know this song.

You knew this song, that's so cool. So, who's in Honeydrippers? Robert Plant, Jeff Beck was on the album, know anything about Led Zeppelin. I know this song. You knew this song. That's so cool. So young Mike. Who's in Honey Dippers? Robert Plant. Jeff Beck was on the album. Jimmy Page played guitar on this song. My friend, Nile Rogers was on guitar. Paul Schaeffer on piano. So it was like, Paul Schaeffer was the other real sort of

like, like cultural connection. Because Letterman was so hot at the time, right? I think that- World's most dangerous band. I believe there's probably a Letterman episode where they, where Robert came and sang the song. Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. For sure. 84, 85 peak Letter the time, right? I think that- World's most dangerous band. I believe there's probably a Letterman episode where they, where Robert came and sang the song. Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. For sure, 84, 85 peak Letterman too, right?

Wow. Cause the next time I'm really in- That's Jimmy Page solo, I think. Right here? I think so. So I remember listening to Q107's Top 10 of 10 when Long Cool One, what's it called? Yeah, yeah.

Was a hit, like it was like a top 10 of ten hit sure that queen would kick it out and that's like my next robert plant. I don't even remember when I buy at some point I buy Led Zeppelin for because of stairway to I met robert plant at much music and I got a photo taken with him really never seen the photo. I wish I had it yeah I was there for John Gallagher's got that photo. I don't know but I walk I was there and with the guy from Warner Brothers and we they were like from Warner Brothers Roger Desjardins was his name and People were just taking photos like Robert was basically like there cuz everybody's like, oh my god It's Robert Plant. Yeah, and I was coming in like to do a spoon thing. Yeah. Yeah, somebody's like he took a picture with Robert Okay, but I've never seen the picture

That's crazy. It was 84. Hey, wow. Early it was like September 24th, 84, the album was released and this so they toured once they had one tour. Really? This one. Oh yeah. Holy shit. They had one tour. Wow. I don't know. They should get back together. It was 84 into 85 when this was on the charts and stuff, but beautiful. But, but so we all think of that song. Like when I think of sea of love, that's where, but that's why I wanted to dig back to the original, because I thought that's super cool to know that the song was now 65 years old.

And how many people can tell you the name of the singer that originally sang Sea of Love? Like Phil Phillips? I wouldn't have been able to, no. And what's the name of that guy on American Idol who sang Great, he sang Home? Yeah, which is a decent tune. Which sounds like Mumford and Sons.

Or Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeroes. There's, I don't know if you know that as well. Yeah, I don't know them as well, but I know that when I would hear that song at first, I thought it was Mumford and Sons and I found it's very similar. Very similar names going on here. Now, next week, my wife has a birthday and when we got married 11 years ago, this song was part of our wedding. Like it was part of the wedding.

Do you want to hear this? Yep. Eleven years ago? Yes. It's ahead of the curve because everything sounds like I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris. Okay. So this song, do either of you know the artist? No, but it's beautiful. Cate, I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris. I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris. I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris. I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris.

I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris. I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris. I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris. I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris. I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris. I'm going to say something about the ceremony in Paris. I'm want to say something about the closing ceremonies in Paris. But okay. So this song, uh, do either of you know the artist? No, but it's beautiful. Cat power. Oh yes. Okay. So this was part of her wedding was cat powers. Very nice. Uh, sea of love. That's very nice. And speaking of Billy Eilish, uh, she was part of these,

uh, closing ceremonies yesterday. Did you guys, did either of you two watch the closing ceremonies of the Olympics? No, not yet. I'm going to, but I watched the highlights. Yeah, I didn't see any of it yet. Okay. So you watched a lot of Olympics, but I, um, I didn't watch the closing ceremonies. There's like a moment where Tom Cruz saw that this thing, and then he shows up in L. A. So he gets on a, he's on a motorcycle and he gets on like a, I don't know, a helicopter or something, one of those big army ones or whatever, and he ends up in L. A. And he goes to the Hollywood sign and then you got red hot chili peppers. Yeah,

our plan and they didn't not not under the bridge though, and then there and they didn't do California Cation. They didn't do anything with California in the title. They don't want fornication in there. You know what fornication means? Okay, but Billy Eilish is there. Do you know where people fuck the most the Olympic Village? That's true. That's I got to tell. I need to know the stats. How many condoms were you? That's right. Yeah, during these Olympic games, right? Holy imagine being in Paris and being young and fit and in yeah great shape and you

just want. Even if you didn't win them out, I finished fourth. I don't care. Let's have sex. How many athletes break up with their significant other like the week before the Olympics? Just like, no, we'll get back together in three weeks. Yeah, exactly. We're on a break. All right, so where was it? Well, yeah, so Billie Eilish performs

at these closing ceremonies. A Snoop Dogg is there, Dr. Dre comes out. It was very LA and in four years, we'll see what LA does with the opening ceremony. I guess it was leading, that's, I was just thinking that I saw somebody's comment this morning that felt, they felt like there wasn't enough French music represented for the closing. Because they were saying goodbye. But that it was leading. That's that. I was just thinking that I saw somebody's comment this morning that felt they felt like there wasn't enough French music represented

for the closing because they were saying goodbye. But that's exactly right. They're leading towards California. No, but the baton was, you know, because we won the four by 100 minute meter relay. The baton was passed with Tom Cruise. Like once Tom shows up, it's LA. This is no longer about Paris. It's about Los Angeles. Right. And what about that break dancing competition breaking? I watched it. Yeah. Uh, I hope that woman was in on the ray gun. Oh, no, I don't think she, I don't know how she got on the team or anything, but she, I was never like, she's not like, I could find you better breaking. No, no, it's cringy because I hope she was in on it. Like I have such empathy. Yeah. I can't, I can't even

watch the guy. I can't watch it. I see it. I'm like no, I fuck. I feel bad enough about my own life. I don't need to watch you ruin yours. I don't think it's bad enough to be a joke like a Phil hung. Is that his name? Yeah, no, yeah, of course from American, I know something hung she bangs. Yeah, what was his first name doesn't matter? Okay, drew something hung in the end. Why do I think I got name? It doesn't matter. Okay. Drew something hung in the engine. Why do I think I got to Google this? Doesn't matter. Yeah, but it does.

This guy was so bad. It was good. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think ray gun was bad enough to. That's my point. It's just weak. Right. But that's my point. Like, so then I just feel fucking horrible for her. Yeah. Cause you, if you don't feel the sense of humor in it, then it becomes just, this is what like, like, yeah, that's like there. I can't. I

just can't. I just can't anyways. Yeah, the and you know what? Here's the thing. I don't mind break dancing being in the Olympics. I mean, if you can, if you can have ice dancing and you can have William hung, William, I was grumpy bailed me out. There you go. I have no problem with break dancing being in there because if you can have other judge sports like like the like, you know where they throw the ball in the air, forget and take the big ribbon and stuff, if

those are sports as well, fine break dancing can be as well. I just that that particular display from the Australian is was just he on the live stream. They're saying we're talking over the music too much, but we only played once. Yeah. Hello. You want to hear more of the song? You want to hear more of us? Angie Ward says, can we not talk through the music till an appropriate time? Wow. I actually never considered people were here for the music.

Will you replay one? We do normally wait, but we all know we're. It's true, but will you replay one thing for me? What is it? From the bonus jam, just the opening of Honey Drippers. Just listen to those fricking strings. And I think the whole thing for me is that- Are they real?

Yeah, but in 1984, this sound to me reminds me of Frankie Goes to Hollywood, and it reminds me of all these 80s elements produced by Trevor Horn in England, it's like this weird magical string thing. But then it comes into the song, but it's just. Come on now, what's that all about? I think that was the thing that blew my mind when I was 19, when you first heard that on the radio. I was like, what's coming?

You're the musician, what am I hearing there? It's just a string orchestra. And I honestly just think it's such a beautiful idea to just put that in there But that's Amit Erdogan who produced the album as well president of Atlantic Records his history And you know with with pop music from the 1950s onward is That's the kind of orchestrations and things that he always wanted to have in his music It reminds me very much about Bobby of Bobby Darin. Yeah Yeah reminds me very much about Bobby, of Bobby Darin. Yeah, I told you. You know Bobby, like Bobby Darin. Well it's that era. Yeah.

There was a couple that come up, obviously, that, you know, he's got a bunch of music that's music, water related, Splish Splash was his. But what's Mac the Knife, of course. Yeah. It's just that era. It evokes that. Evoke sea, is that him?

Under the sea? No. No. It's a sea song, ocean song. Yeah, he has a, he does. Beyond the sea, is that him? Under the sea? No. No. It's a sea song, ocean song. Yeah, he has a, he does. Beyond the sea. Beyond the sea, yes. Right, right, right.

Yeah, under the sea was Little Mermaid. Yes, which by the way, we could have done too. That's a great song actually. We could only have done that. That's a great song. I know. Well, Beyond the Sea would have been appropriate and a big jam for the bodies of water.

Yes, it could have. And Under the Sea for sure. Okay, so do you guys think we need to play more music before we start yacking over it? Well, let's, let's shake it off the next one goes. Yeah. Who's the producer around here? It's your show. We're just excited about it all. It's all it's the water. It's got us going. It's that German beer you're having. It's the vice beer talking. All right,

so we're going to bring down these jams and we're going to let Bob will let kick out his first body of water jam. Any words to say before I press play? Obviously only well, this is the oldest one on my list today Hear the water yes Sitting in the morning sun, I'll be sitting in the morning sun I'll be sitting in the evening calm Watching the ships roll in Then I watch them roll away again I'm sitting on the dock of a bay Watching a tide roll away Ooh, just sitting on a dock of the bay wasting time

I left my home in Georgia headed for the Frisco Bay Cause I've had nothing to build for It look like nothing's gonna come my way So I'm just gonna sit on a darker bay Watching the tide roll away And sitting on a dark old bay, wasting time. Looks like nothing's gonna change. Everything still remains the same.

Everything still remains the same. I can't do what ten people tell me to do. So I guess I'll remain the same. Sitting here around my body. Well, there you go. Come on. Come on. The Bay? The Bay?

Sitting by the... San Francisco Bay? No, fantastic choice. Great song. And I kicked this out once we did posthumous releases. Oh, yeah. This was my favorite posthumous release. Oh yeah. This was my favorite posthumous release. So story goes that he was actually like Borrowing. What's the guy's name? He's like he was a big concert promoter. He

had a houseboat in Sal Salido. What was a guy's name. He was like a big anyway. It doesn't matter. He was boring. He was living on a houseboat and he wrote this song and it was bill graham was his name, bill graham, and he had just played Monterey pop festival and he wrote this and I just, I mean my kid learned this early young like the she sang doc. It's sitting by the dock of the bay at her elementary school in choir and she can actually play it a little bit on guitar. And have you ever seen the clip of Otis? It's actually exists on its own called Otis at Monterey. No. Oh my God. It's one of the most astounding performances you've ever seen. I mean, there's a whole film of the concert anyway, but, but his particularly is so good.

anyway. Yeah, but but his particularly is so good. So he this ended up like he she's working with stacks, all the all the stacks people and yeah, I mean like what else can you if you if I think about you want me to think about music and like music that has to do with water, this was one of the probably one of the first ones that came to my mind. I was like sitting by the dock of the bay. It's just one of those like I don't know anybody who does not like that song. I know it's a universally liked song. You can you cannot you can be indifferent to it, but I don't think anybody can hate that song. You can't even barely You can be indifferent to it, but I don't think anybody can hate that song. You can't even barely be in different. I know I know. I don't think you can hate that

song. Was that sixty seven? Yep, sixty seven. Yeah, it was recorded twice, but and one was just three days before his death. Yeah, yeah, that's the version we hear there. Yeah, that's the one and then actually the funny. So this guy, Steve Cropper, who guitar player played guitar on this. He also helped produce it. He he put in the the the water and the seagull sounds. Isn't he also in the blues brothers? Well, here's here's so here's so he is in the blues brothers. He's also here's my mind blow. This Steve Cropper guy should have. I mean, I know there's been like documentary with the stacks players. Steve Cropper's

insane like so he also co wrote this one. This is my mind blow burger tea in the M. G. Yes, he co wrote this. These are all session music. He's all session guys and this guy was like yeah, so he was that he he played with Otis Redding Wilson pick a willis of this a little bit. I don't get yelled at by the people on the there's no worries. No worries on this. That's true. Don't worry about them. It's on the balls around here, body. Um, he's, um, so he's been nominated for Grammy seven times. He's one too. He's, uh, so he's, he's produced and written for Booker T, the MGs, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett,

Sam and Dave, Rufus Thomas, Johnny Taylor. And yes, he's in the blues brothers as well. So like one of those unsung guys, unless you're a musician, unless you're a musician, you know, and you've, I know there's the documentary about the stacks people, but man, oh man, the fact that this guy wrote this amazing co wrote this and the doc of the bay is so great. And if my memory is correct, this is just session, you musicians noodling around and they like Booker T and the M G's. Yeah. That name comes later. Like they need a name now because they've got a single. But this is just session musicians noodling and then yeah. Booker T I believe also played the amazing organ solo in Michael Jackson's

song, Bad. There's an organ solo. I don't know if you remember it, but in the middle of it there's like this like old organ that comes out of nowhere. And I think that's what that is. I hear you have an old organ. it comes out of nowhere. And I think that's what that is. I hear you have an old Oregon. He's yeah, it's just crazy. He's worked with Jimmy Buffett. Like I work with Chicago, like David Clayton Thomas. Yeah. Just one of those guys that you never know anything about them. And then you find out,

this is why when we're kids and you had records and you would read the credits like for me, right. You look at like playing piano and like learning about bands and all that stuff and I would pour over the credits and see then you recognize the names. Yeah yeah. We're gonna hear some great songs today but we might not hear a song as good as dock of the bay that's a great song. It might be like I said I don't know more I think Bob Marley is universally loved as an artist but I think sitting by the dock of the bay I

literally I don't know anybody who when when you hear that, I was like, Oh God, I hate this song. I've never heard anybody ever say that. And we could, as a bird jam, because you hear seagulls. Oh, well, yes. That's just like why I did cherish by, by, yes, absolutely. It's a seagull jam. Okay. Well done. And again, I can't think of, I mean, there's some great posthumous jams out there, but there's no better posthumous jam than dock of the bay. This dude played on rock and roll with John Lennon. Amazing.

Yeah. It's amazing. His list of people he's worked with is insane. I love those kind of things. John Prine? Yeah. Just crazy. He's just a guy, you know? Just a guy. Where does the name Green Onions come from? Well, there's onions that are green.

Yeah, have you ever had a green onion, man? Come on. I worked at a grocery store. I know my green onions. Okay, I'm gonna let the Booker T and the M.G.'s take you right into my first jam, right? Where do bad folks go when they die? They don't go to heaven where the angels fly Go to a lake of fire and fire See em again, tell em for the July I'm the milady who came from in Luthor Bit by dot with a rabbit tooth Put you back to the low with a bit by a dog with a rabbit tooth

Put your back to the ground just a little too soon Flew a lame owl on the yellow moon Where the bad folks go when they die They don't go to heaven where the angels fly Go to a lake of fire and a fright See him again till the Fourth of July Did you guys hear that music journalist Charles Cross passed away? I did not. I got this news yesterday.

He wrote a biography of Kurt Cobain called Heavier Than Heaven. Probably, I mean, of all the Kurt Cobain books I read, I think it was the best, but I know there's some good ones out there. But yeah, so just shout out to Ridley Funeral Home, that Charles Cross, who if you haven't read Heavier Than Heaven, it's a pretty good Kurt Cobain biography. But I speak of that because this is Nirvana. Yes. Lake of Fire, which we all discovered when they played it during their MTV unplugged

appearance in November 1993. This is one of three songs that Kurt sang that day that was originally recorded by a band called the Meat Puppets. Did you know that Bob Lillett? I didn't know this was a Meat Puppets song. I did not either. Nope. I recognized the Nirvana version, but I didn't know. Nope. All right, I'm going to play some of the Meat Puppets original, tell you a little bit about that and then get you back to Nirvana. Good guitar playing though, right? Oh yeah. Where the bad folks go and they die They don't go to heaven where the angels fly They go to the lake of morn and cry They'll see them again until the fourth of July Oh, I knew a lady who came from Duluth Who had been by a door with a rabbit tooth She went to her grave a little too soon And flew away howling on the yellow moon Alright, so the singer you hear here is a different Kurt.

This is Kurt with a C. Kurt Kirkwood, lead singer of the the Meat Puppets. He wrote this song, he's singing on this song, he plays guitar in this song. This is from the second Meat Puppets album, Meat Puppets 2. Shout out to Led Zeppelin, that's how you name your albums. Okay, came out in April 1984. So Kurt Cobain. 84? It's amazing. Like it's so, it's so cool to hear this because I've always known the name Meat Puppets but I've always avoided them

because the name gives me the creeps a little bit. I know, it's a gross name. But now after hearing this, I like, I am gonna be listening to this on my drive home tomorrow. Ahead of their time. So cool. One of the Meat Puppets. I just don't like the name.

This album, Meat Puppets 2, is the same album that has Plate on it, which, uh, is covered by Nirvana. Wow. That's super cool. And Oh me. So there was three songs. Did you know that two of the meat puppet guys were the backup players on the, on the, uh, unplugged? No, 100% smear was there. Oh, Pat was in the, no past mirror was there. And these two other guys, which were meat puppet guys. So Kurt, that was the brothers. Yeah. The brothers were there. Chris Kirkwood. I didn other guys, which were meat puppet guys. So Kurt, that was the brothers.

Yeah. The brothers were there. Chris Kirkwood. I didn't know they were doing meat puppet songs. That is so cool. Yeah. Okay. I love that 84. That's 84. Yeah. 1984.

That's a so like, wow, no meat puppets, no Nirvana. That's all there is to it. Right. Like there is no way. I thought it was no Pixies. No, Nirvana. I agree. I do. No, no. Both of those bands. No yeah no Cleveland oh yeah he setting me up here and I'm in the wrong wrong page over here but on it no absolutely no Cleveland no Bowie I gotta be quicker I'm gonna page here a

multiple pages going on here so I'm not done with the extra songs here okay so I love so I think we talked about this every other episode of toast, but I loved the live in New York unplugged by Nirvana who didn't take his all Gen X liked it, I guess. So yeah, you got Lake of Fire, that song. That's why it's a body of water jam Lake of Fire. And then you also had, had. We had this one, which't lie to me Tell me where did you sleep last night In the pines, in the pines Where the sun don't ever shine I would slumber the whole night through Okay, hit me with it Kurt. I'll bring her back up in a moment. So this is the B-side to the single, Lake of Fire, is Where Did You Sleep Last Night, which is another cover that Kurt does during the MTV Unplugged.

And this is the vocals. I mean, you'll hear it later when I turn it up, but just unbelievable. Unbelievable. Super cool. Beautiful. Super fucking cool. Okay. So where did Kurt Cobain learn this song?

Well, he and this gentleman did not write the song. He's not the original. This is like an old, old song from way back in the day, but Leadbelly Kind of made this version Famous and Kurt Cobain heard Leadbelly Which I'll play in a moment But I'm gonna vamp a little bit because I wanted Kurt to really like I don't know when in the live The MTV unplugged he does this song, but you should hear what he does with his voice coming up here. Alright, let's listen.

Also this song has many different names so Kurt called it Where Did You Sleep Last Night but one of the names for it I often see is In The Pines and I think there was like a lot of debate and discussion whether this song really is called In the Pines. Not Where Did You Sleep Last Night. you go I'm going where the cold wind blows in the pines in the pines where the Sun don't ever shine I will shiver the whole night through Here we go. And on every shine I was shivered and whole my food My girl, my girl, where will you go? I'll go where the cold wind blows Oh That's the blues right there.

Amazing. It's fucking unbelievable. So they're recording in November 93. The man is dead in April. Wow. Yeah. Jesus. Okay.

Now we have a fun fact from the great FOTM Hall of Famer, Mark Weisblatt from 1236. Hey Mark. This is on the live stream. Mark has joined us a little late, but he comes armed and dangerous to tell us there was a song by the Meat Puppets called Backwater. Backwater was the hit. Yeah, that went to number 47 on the Hot 100

and features, I think, background vocals from Kurt Cobain. That's the only hit they had. The Puppets of Meat. Puppets of Meat, but okay, so let's just do the Lead Belly because no Lead Belly on there, then you don't get that song. Just a little Lead Belly, Where Did You Sleep Last Night? That's great. That's so great. That's great. That's so great.

That's so great. That's so great. That's so great. That's so great. That's so great. That's so great. That's so great. That's so great.

That's so great. That's so great. That's great. Okay, before I pass the baton to the great Rob Bruce for his second jam, I will say that there is a version of this song, Mark Lang again from the Screaming Trees and Queens of the Stone Age, with Kurt on background vocals, which I'll bring down Leadbelly, the great Leadbelly, not to be confused with Pearl Jam's Leadbetter, okay, Yellow Leadbetter, here we go. Listen to this for a moment, this predates the unplugged by Nirvana

Smack Cameron on the drums here. I don't think so Actually sounds more like Jack Irons. This is Mark Lanigan? Yes. never shot out with you can hear him in there. Yeah, big time. That's amazing. Wow. That's like Brian Adams showing up on a glass tiger song. Or no, Mike, what is the guy? It's like Michael McDonnell showing up. Michael, do you know? Which one are you gonna go with?

On Christopher Cross. Okay, yeah, I was thinking of Michael Jackson showing up on... Somebody's watching me. Yeah. Somebody's watching me by Rockwell. Rockwell. Whose dad was Barry Gordy Jr.

Right, and did you know the LMFAO? Party rockin' in the house tonight. One of their dads is Gordon really that makes a lot of sense a lot of nepo babies the nepo babies walk amongst us okay and passing the baton that is a super cool song though I want to I want to hear more of this god all the versions are just so neat and anyways they have nothing to do with bodies of water, but who cares? No, I, this is actually a bit of a tangent. You've got an attention, but who cares?

I use lake of fire to get my ass where I wanted to go. I love it. Good job, Mike. Where did you sleep last night? It was really good. Oh, I fucking love it. And I still love unplugged in New York there. Makes you want to listen to even more that like,

I haven't listened to the whole thing in a long time, but I love the sound of all the tunings, all the guitars are tuned low. That all apologies too. Which I like more than the in utero version of all apologies is that all apologies from the unplugged. And it's all like one take, right? It's just fucking-

It's just music. It's actual live. But again, now I need to shout out quickly, the Alice in Chains unplugged is that fucking amazing too. Is it really? It's going, it's so funny actually you say that because there's a nutshell is going viral right now for some reason on unlike tick talk and at

least in my algorithm. How's your tick tock going, bud? Oh, it's horrible. I mean, it's fine. I'm just doing it. It's just not there. I need to learn when you come on. Oh, you know, I can't teach you. I've done three of them and I think you know what's interesting. You really see all the you see great statistics like it. You see how many people there's no algorithm, right? Like there's no or they don't they don't throttle it back. It just, it's all depends on what you get. I've had like thousands of views on mine, all of the three of them. Um, you see how long they watch for, you see what it turns into.

You see if they want, if they look at you, even like you see very, very, so I know the other ones have it, but it's very broken down. It's, it's crazy good, but you can't, you need that data. You can't monetize it in Canada. Unfortunately, right. And I got to figure out how to monetize things guys. We'll put toast behind a paywall. That's right. A little split of three lane. I'm going to start. I don't want to love that. Yeah. Stu stone liked one up, liked my tick tock the other day. Oh, that's cool. He's there. Okay. Yeah.

It was either a tick. I've been there. It was either my tick tock or my, uh, it might've been my Instagram when I was talking about my DJ gig at the supermarket. I go into tick tock a couple of times. I signed in, I've done a couple of things on there and then I, I invariably I'm like, fuck this. This is stupid. I just don't care. Content's pretty good. Any words before your second jam? Nope. Just let it go. We're going to let it go. We're gonna let it roll in. Alright.

DJ Toronto Mike. It doesn't sound like Queen. So the rivers flow, so the rivers flow Through the rivers fly, stately kingfisher Through the waters swim, stickleback fisher Rob, what the hell is this? It's Donovan. Donovan Bailey. Donovan, this was in 1968. Seasons of the Witch Donovan. Exactly.

So this was on his album, Heardy Girdy Man, 1968. And apparently he wrote most of these songs so this was on his album the hurdy-gurdy man 1968 and apparently he wrote most of these songs after he was hanging out with the Beatles in Rishikesh, India Here the tabla yeah the tabla and he always had that kind of cool stuff in there But I just loved the song like I was I was sort of hard-pressed to like narrow down my choices for Ocean songs like I have a really amazing playlist of songs that didn't make the cut The name of the song didn't make the cut. What's the name of the song? It's called the River Song. So do you love this song?

I do. Cause that's a prerequisite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I've been always a fan of Donovan and just- A little sleepy. Yeah. A little sleepy. It's Donovan's English, right?

Yes. He's Welsh. He's got that Welsh. He's herdy-gurdy man, right? Yeah, he's Mellow Yellow. What's that? The irony of what I'm gonna play these right? Yeah. He's Melo yellow. Yep. Yeah. Well, the irony of what I'm going to play these back to back, we'll talk after anyways. Well, I was thinking when that started out of the last thing you played, uh, even though they

weren't bodies of water songs, they were connected through the musicians, but there's just a lot of guitar and a lot of like wood sounds happening, you know, like there's something beautiful about the, the resonance of natural instruments with the body's water. The vocals to me sound almost like a parody though. Like, yeah, I don't know. It just sounds, it sounds almost spinal tappy to me. That's where spinal tap came from. I know. Yeah, exactly. So that's, and that's my, that's my reference. I find it hard to believe that's one of your three favorite songs about a body of water. Oh, he's accusing you. But that's the thing I couldn't hear.

You're accusing him of picking one to be cool? Well, I see there's others that I'm not going to take by the ocean by the Jonas Brothers. It's not by the Jones Brothers, but DNC. But one of them is not in it. Okay. No, who really did that song though? One of the Jonas Brothers, one of the Jonas Brothers, not the joint cake by the ocean. I think once, yeah, at least it might be a remake. Um, no, and there's other like there's other songs. Okay. So that's how you, you love that song only because I wasn't there. No, I like the feeling of it. I like this, the feeling of it's very calming and it's sort of like being your jam. I like it. No, no, I don't. I, I, you find it sleepy. Uh, it is sleepy.

I prefer to call it meditative. I'm going to start it again. Hold on. I really liked the, yeah, in the background. He was experimenting. It's like the grapes of wrath. Yeah, yeah. All the things I wasn't. That's funny. When you played the beginning of sitting on the dock of the bay, I thought it sounded like Gordon Lightfoot's Sundown. Oh yeah. That could hear the same thing. So songs lead into others. I can see this being like, you just smoked a big fat blunt and you're chilling out and you're listening to this on the looking at the water.

It actually is better in context with the whole album. Like when you just listened through the whole thing. Yeah. I apologize for judging you, man. Go ahead and judge. Who am I to fucking judge? I'm just kicking out the same grunge songs every week. It's your show.

I take direction though. Andrew Ward will notice I'm playing more music before we talk. That's right. I made an adjustment. And apparently like they're on these recording sessions They there's no listings of who actually played but if there's rumors that it was Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones playing on this as well so

In the days before zeppelin. All right, so this is a river song Bob any words before your river song? Well, I'm gonna do a river song and the lead singer this band also Plays the hurdy-gurdy. So here you go Come on. Yeah. In the video. Yeah. Is it the old mill? Yeah. The drummer's been on, it's an FOTM. We talked about it, but I recognize it right away. I have to be quiet or Andrew Ward will be mad at

me. All right. It'll go, it'll go. Headphone, headphone is great. Well, this has a big Headphone, headphone is great. Well, this has a big long intro, but. You know what, I'll just tell you, this is my favorite song by this band. I could see that. I love this song. And the first song I ever heard from this band.

I believe that as well. And that often happens, the first song, because it's my favorite. First. That should be a theme one week for Toast. First songs you heard from a band that still is your favorite song by that band that has a lot of hits. That's a good idea Is this the doors Yeah, exactly. Fucking lovely. I'm... I I love it. Windsor's own the tea party with the river from Splendor Solis.

There what years this 1993, 93, it feels like 93. Yeah, three or four. Yeah, they played. They were one of the last bands. I remember playing the forum before it got to. Wow. They played the forum to win this album came out yeah yeah so the tea party definitely a band at the very beginning so they're post-grungy tree yeah so they're kind of

post-grunge they come out and they're very much very reminiscent of Zeppelin and the doors he are Jeff Martin, lead singer, always getting accused of, you know, acting and sounding like him or like Jim Morrison. I mean he did and he dressed like a pirate for christ's sake, like, you know, he did all the eighties things. Oh, he, you know, seventies things, seventies things, I would say. Yeah. And look, I think Splendor solace was our first exposure for most of us, our our FOTM brother Bill, Neil Morrison, good friends with the band.

Used to play them overnight. Got permission. He was one of the... He was a big proponent of this band. And musicianship? These guys are amazing. What's the song called again? It's called The River.

It is called The River. Yeah. Right. He plays so many different instruments, Jeff Martin, when you see them live. And they sound... They have this wall of sound, and it's just the three of them. You know, it's Stewart on drums,

and Jeff on the, like he's here on bass. Jeff Burroughs. Jeff Burroughs, no sorry, Jeff Burroughs on drums. Stewart is either on keys or on bass. But it harkens back to that feeling in the 60s of just like jamming, which comes back to like Donovan as well, because Donovan laid down those grooves that were very meditative and they were like drones that just went on and on.

And they have a lot of those kinds of tracks on all their albums. In 1997, when Transmission came out, I can still remember, like they got quite electrical. They were using the same director for their videos as Marilyn Manson. Like there was, they got, I've always been a fan of this band. I've never not liked them. I know he has a great reputation for taking himself far too seriously, but he's gotten better as he's gotten older. Yeah, I agree. He's in on the joke now because he used to call himself the captain and he's got

his own Twitter account now called the captain. I thought really, yeah, I've had the opportunity in Australia, but he lives mostly in Australia and Ireland actually. So, um, yeah, he other lives in Australia but he lives mostly in Austria and Ireland actually so yeah he he's an interesting guy I my mind blows not really a mind blow I'm it's it's a song so he has a solo album Jeff Martin called the exile in the kingdom and I thought the FOTM would appreciate the story, because I got invited to go hear the album in advance at some private house in Forest Hill with Eric Alpert and Martin Streak.

Wow. Yeah. So and... Wait, just the three of you? No, no, there was like a party. It was a party. There was a bunch of people. I envision the three of you collect. It's was like as a party. It was a party. There was a bunch of people. Three of you collect is like, Oh, this is the

Toronto's like oracle. It was, it was just, it was, it was a party, but it, but we let, but he literally played in the kitchen. It was a kitchen party and there was like maybe 50 people there. Wow. And the album I got to interview. So I was at, we were at mix 99 at the time, the humble and Fred show and we didn't play any tea party when we didn't play any any of those Jeff Martin, but Eric, Eric still brought Jeff to the humble and Fred show and I I interviewed him and then I interviewed him when I was at ninety four nine the rock in the lobby of the Danforth music hall and I'm just

I'm just a big fan, but if you want to play a little bit of the song from the... Okay, Jeff's gonna take us home now, okay. It's like a six minute song. I love this part. Yeah! So, this is a solo track and I just I want to tell this story because so when Laura and I first started dating my now wife she loved the tea party like Jeff Martin was like she had a huge crush on Jeff Martin.

He's hot. And so we're at this party with Martin Streak we go with Martin Streak and Eric Alper and all these and a bunch of other people and he plays the song, he plays a bunch of songs in the kitchen and we're just like right there. He was just in the kitchen playing. Yeah, he had a three-piece band. But he's like, he's got like a tabla, he's got like a mandolin, he's got like everything, he's playing all this stuff and it was amazing.

All acoustic, all just you know, and it was amazing. And so we're going to and it's open bar, everybody's feeling no pain and we're going to leave and I'm talking to Eric Alper at the hallway and the music's playing in the background of this thing and and Eric Alper is like you gotta say hi to Jeff I'm like yeah just interview me I said it's okay I look over and there's Jeff Martin singing into my wife my use my soon-to-be wife's ear he's like yeah cuz she thought she'd been to Ireland and he was talking about Ireland.

And he's like, ooh, singing into my, I was like, dude, I'm right here. But I was like, and I- He doesn't give a fuck if you're right there. Me did not give a fuck. Anyway, and we walked out. I'm like, so he said goodbye, gave her a big hug, gave me a hug, you know, this whole thing.

And we walk out and I was, I just turned around, I'm like, well, that was, she's like, shut up. I don't even want to hear from you. Just let me enjoy this moment. And then I married her. So yeah. And then Eric said to you, Bob, name a cover you didn't know was a cover. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Pre Twitter days. Let me hear though. So this song is called Aqua Dust. Yeah. Let me hear a bit of this. It's not a bad album, actually. This is a solo album. Sounds like Donovan. And also a little...

Did you... Who did you like first, Pearl Jam or Tea Party? Pearl Jam first. Pearl Jam first. Yeah, yeah. But I hear in Tea Party, Pearl Jam's 91. Yeah, that's right. But there's a little something in Tea Party that... Well, this is actually like 2000 and something. Is it really? No, I meant the river. Yeah, yeah,'s right but there's a little something in tea party that this is actually like 2000 the river the river is 93 I don't I never heard this before I gotta be honest okay so I gotta shout out Michael Lang because he was with me when I was at the the history history oh yeah the history

no just history don't be that guy and it's funny because the band that opened for tea party that night wasist and I always think of those two bands together. They would like take turns at Edge Fest. Yeah. Well, so it's funny. I had Mike Turner of Our Lady Peace on my podcast. Your first episode. My very first episode. And Mike Turner told me, so the 1997 Edge Fest was when Clumsy came out and that was the first year that Our Lady Peace closed and Tea Party didn't. Tea Party had closed Edge Festival. That was the year that they overtook because they had a... that was the first year. Yeah, it was night and that was my wife and I's first date. Wow. Yeah. Have you had any moist on the show,

Mike? I'm moist right now listening to Jeff Marden. You kidding me right now? No moist, but I would like David Usher to come on. When I was in... when I was running Big FM, the lead guitarist for Mo moist has been in and out of the band. He emailed me and cause he lives in Kingston now and does construction. And he's like, Hey man, how come you don't play any moist? And I was like, okay, I will. And I put a bunch of moist in. I played moist for Biff naked last week. She's in the video for silver. And I think about that song whenever Canada finished the second gets a silver

I think we are so I think I knew the bass player Jeff Pierce when I move it's Jeff Pierce the bass player Sorry, the bass player. Yeah. Yes. Oh, it was named Jeff in this right? Yeah. Yes, right. No, it's Jeff Pierce I moved when I when I came to Toronto in 2000 to do Mamma Mia at the Royal Alex I moved into an apartment and I moved into a An apartment that Jeff had just moved out of and he moved down the hall. Jeff Pierce. He's a good guy. He was really, it was interesting because that's when I still had some, the ability to add music at the radio station and I added a couple, I obviously added Push and Silver, Push is still my favorite.

Push, Silver and Resurrection, all good songs. I was able to add those off the official playlist. And yeah, and he was so happy. He's like, dude, I can't believe you actually did it. Ah, that's amazing. Rob, you've been working with Broadway and all this jazz. I was curious, and I think you've told me in the past, but I'm thinking of the great Jeffs, okay? There's some great fucking Jeffs in this world.

Shout out to the Jeffs. We've just named a bunch. But what about Jeff, who took his hat off on today's special and then became a man? Jeff Heslop. Yes. You worked with him, right? I worked with Jeff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was our Phantom when we did the Canadian tour in 1991.

I'm just setting you up for your greatest hits. Oh, you were? Oh, thank you for that. Yeah, yeah. Jeff was amazing. And I'm sure I mentioned to you that he was in Jesus Christ Superstar in the film, right? I sent you that clip. Yes. He was dancing in the background in like 72. 71. 71. Yeah, with Norman Julius and directed that film. Okay, shout out to Sam Crenshaw, who was playing Sol the background like 72 71 71. Yeah with Norman Jewson directed that shadow to Sam Crenshaw Who was playing solitaire when he should have been watching the fucking story?

You're the all-night watchman here. Do your job for goodness sake We did count flowers on the wall last week or with And playing and play playing solitaire with the deck of 51 and I I mean Around the corner. You'll see the pulp fiction picture I've been thinking in my head of possibly getting a couple of soup, fellow super fans, like you, Bob, and doing a deep dive, a deep fucking, I don't care if it's six hours. Oh, I can move over schools out. Okay. Sorry, cam Gordon fiction. The adults have arrived. A pulp fiction,

deep dive of the year from a Canadian. Wow. I'm thinking about it right now. Okay. Oh my goodness. Okay. So thank you to Jeff Martin, not an FOTM. He actually said no, he got an invitation from me. He said, no, Jeff Rose. Yeah. Jeff Rose. Great guy. He used to work with Craig Venn for also FOTM. He had a morning show in Kingston radio together. Yes, they did. Lucky took over. No, it was in, no, it was sorry. It was in Windsor, Windsor. Sorry. I said Kingston, no, in Windsor when my went right after. Yeah, right after, uh, after Craig left the Deringer show, he ended up in Windsor.

Whatever happened to that Deringer guy and he was sure. I know it's one of my, my, one of my most listened to episodes. I have a story. I was one of my most listened to episodes of my podcast because they want to know if you ask the hard hitting questions, which I didn't, and they leave it and say, Oh, softball interview. I softballed it and say, Oh, softball interview. I softballed it. I didn't totally softball it. I don't know if I should put in public, but a great source, there's been a Derringer spotting. Okay. So I will share it afterwards.

And you can tell me in the real, what other, in a dream? Yeah, I had a dream. I had a dream, an awesome dream. I was doing my improv class and somebody wanted to do something. We want to make a young gomashi reference, and it was amazing how many people didn't know him at all. Wow, like again, when I'll tell you this, like what I'm learning right now, because I've been DJing. Well, by the way, so all Saturday nights in September, I will be at the supermarket playing music for the kids. Tell us why the no frills near me or no bees. Yeah, there you go.

That's the old dad joke. A supermarket in Kensington Market, very cool venue. And I've done the last two weeks there on Saturdays and I'm going back in September. They want me to be their house DJ on Saturdays. Playing top 40 in retro and learning real fast what retro means to these kids today. Cause it's a young bar, man.

There's like arcade fire. I couldn't even get away with an arcade fire song. Adele is practically retro. Adele is practically, so here's the, yeah. Rihanna, is Rihanna retro? Rihanna, like so I dropped, just to see how it would go, I dropped Just A Girl by no doubt, because it was all like 80% women. By the way, if you're a single young man,

go to the supermarket, it is 80% girls. it was just a girl went over well and then I really pushed it. I played girls by the beastie boys and I, they didn't know it. They went boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And they looked, can you explain more? Like, what are we talking about early twenties? These people, they're like 19, dude, like yeah. And they, they come up to me. I've never had this before. They, we knew Led Zeppelin, but yeah, yeah. But we also had to, because that's all we did. We, nothing was on demand. And we would they come up to me. I've never had this before. They like, we knew Led Zeppelin. Yeah. Yeah. But we also had to, because that's all we did. We, nothing was on demand. And we would go back to that argument again, but I will say this. It's,

they're the most polite requesters I've ever had in my life. Mostly probably because I look like their dad. So I'm playing music and they're like, Hey, I'm really sorry to bother you, but do you accept requests? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. And they're like, um, they request. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to play it. I'm going to play that. Don't worry. And they're like, Oh, thank God. We were so nervous. You look so intimidating. I was like, no, you do look intimidating. Why? I look for Rob outside. Okay. I can see it now. Like,

we're going to take, we want a really old track. I hope you have this. Can I hear a white stripes? Oh yeah. No, no. The oldest. Yeah. Old to them is the killers. Like the killers, Mr. Brightside is there. Um, blister in the sun, like, you know, blister in the sun was our like retro track in the nineties, uh, the killers, what the hell's blister in the sun? You're joking, right? No masturbation. Violent fems. I don't really know it. I mean, I know. I never know. It's crazy. But that's all of that being said for know. I never know the name. I'm as high as a kite. It's crazy.

But that being so, all of that being said, for the FOTMs, I actually, I'm asking very politely, if you do want to go out in September, on Friday, September 6th, after Labor Day, I'm at ground control. Me and DJ Shannon, DJ Michael X, all of these Toronto alternative DJs from the nineties

and two thousands. We're all doing an hour long set with CDs. It's an old school CD set and it's no cover and the bar is cool. If you've never been to ground control DJ Lazarus, it's Lazarus, Lazarus place come out on Friday, September six. There's no cover. You can just get in. It's a lot of fun. Wow. I'm reeling at the Rob Proust, not knowing the violence. No, I know that I just never know the name of songs. Sometimes if I hear them, I'm like, oh yeah, that song, by the way, fun fact, that song was also played at my wedding blistering the sun. Oh yeah. Mine too. Fun fact. Jeremy Hopkins just said that he thought moist was overplayed in Toronto radio during the 90s.

And he's probably, he's probably right. And he's probably right. It's still great. We played the shit out of that. And was it, believe me that one. Resurrection. It has Biff naked in it too. Okay, let's kick out my second jam. Y'all ready? We're gonna keep it CanCon. I've noticed we're on a CanCon run here, so.

Oh yeah. Oh my goodness. Merry Christmas everybody. Yeah. Is this another river? How many rivers? Is a river a body of water technically? Yes. I think so. 100%. It's coming on Christmas, they're cutting down trees.

They're putting up reindeer and singing songs of joy and peace. Oh, I wish I had a river I could skate away on. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody.

Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas everybody. Songs of joy and peace Oh, I wish I had a river

I could skate away on But it don't snow here It stays pretty green I'm gonna make a lot of money Then I'm gonna quit this crazy scene I wish I had a river I could skate away on I wish I had a river I could skate away on

I made my baby cry Earlier I said we won't hear a song better than sitting on the dock of the bay and I'm changing my mind. Okay, this song is the best song we're going to hear today. This song is fucking incredible. River by Joni Mitchell. Three rumors in a row. It's French, man.

It's French. Amazing. I'm, every time I hear the song, I'm most amazed by her piano playing, actually, as a musician. And it's the simplicity and the originality of what she does. Like, even at this moment, I'm listening, thinking, I can sort of see what she's playing. But I'm like, it's so cool.

Can you hear? Like, because I had a friend of mine who I used to work with, and he played piano kind of like on his own and there were certain piano players he never liked. Like he didn't like the way Chantelle Crevias played the piano. He said she pounded too hard and stuff. Do you hear that when you're listening to pop music? Sometimes. Sometimes.

I'm like, they're playing the notes right, but there's something about the way they're playing just doesn't feel correct to you. Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes sometimes I get that effect more looking at a person playing than listening. Okay. Which is interesting. Which will train your brain is, is tricking you. I'm watching what they're doing. I'm like, Oh, that's weird. Yeah. Interesting. I just curious. Cause I don't hear that. I'm not, I'm not good enough to hear the difference between the nuance of, you know, somebody who's there, they're technically adept to play. But that's why I listened to Joni and I wonder if it would feel different if I watched her, but just the way she's playing is just so original and beautiful. I could skate away on

Jesus. Okay. I played this. Jingle bells, jingle bells, listen. Yeah. At the beginning too. Right here. Yep. A lot of jingle bells in this room. A lot of jingle bells, yeah. But she changes the key, it's just so cool.

There it is. A lot of jingle bells in there too. Jingle bells, yeah. But she changes the key, it's just so cool. There it is. One more. Get out, Joni. When Hayden dropped by, I played some of this song because it's the spiritual inspiration for skates on As Bad As They Seem. Skates, where he talks about skating, waiting for winter and then skating over the river there.

Okay. But Joni Mitchell River Fucking great song. It's from 1971 this is from the album blue. She wrote it on piano You hear it a lot at Christmas time because it's got a Christmas theme and that jingle bells is in there and it is often covered and Rolling Stone put it number 247 on their top 500 best songs of all time the list they made in 2021 if we market correct that because she's female it's probably a much higher I think you ever hear Robert Downey jr's version. It's actually really beautiful

I think he did it like on the Ali McBeal soundtrack or something from ages ago Liam surprising Oh, wow, Leah Michelle did it on glee. Uh- Glee and I can still remember because we did Glee FM at proud FM. Oh, wow. We did a whole, we, we actually turned the radio station into Glee FM. Wow. And I can remember because that counted as CanCon. We played the hell out of that. That's cool. Because, because it's, you know, it fills two of the maple. Sure. So, uh, but Leah Michelle's version is very nice too. Wow. And before we go to Rob Pruess's final jam, let me just say,

so I was listening to river by Joni Mitchell and I'm like, ah man, what a great song. No better song about a river than this one. No Canadian could ever do a song about a river as good as this one. And then I started thinking about songs I love. And there's a lot of fucking good river songs. Is this up on Cripple Creek? Because do creeks count? Sorry, I just... Creek would count. Creek would have, we could have done up on up on cripple Creek cuz the creeks count. Sorry, I just think

Creek would count we could have done about cripple Creek. This is not bad. No, I know it's not but that would count I just think you're really Speaking of Joni Mitchell this artist in Joni Mitchell often associated from the Yorkville scene. I'm here all alone When you could be taking me for a ride She could drag me over the rainbow Send me a wave Down by the river I shine my baby Down by the river

Dead Down by the river by Neil Young. Great harmonies on that too. It sounds a little bit like The Beatles. And this is a couple years older than Joni Mitchell's River. This is from 1969. It was on Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere. And if you ever heard Neil Young talk about writing this song, he talks about this day he spent in bed with a 103 degree fever, that's Fahrenheit, so it's like 39 degrees Celsius. He's

got this fever, he's in bed, Topanga Canyon, and he writes three songs with this fever while he's in bed. He writes, you ready Bobby? Down by the River river Shout out to Eddie Vedder. He writes cinnamon girl and he writes cowgirl in the sand Fever is a good what a fever. You know what somebody kiss me get the get the skin I got a fever and I could write three hit songs, right? That's the greatest fucking fever in the history of rock and roll is that Neil Young fever. Next time I have a fever I'm just gonna write. I can't even write. I'm just gonna write. Okay so there you go another River song. We could have kicked out River Jams. Yeah. Fucking great. So Rob, you like this song? Love it. More guitars. It's all... Joni broke it up with the piano though. Yeah.

But still made out of wood. Well this song's with Crazy Horse. Yeah. All right. So I'll bring it down because it's a bonus jam. Fucking love it. Any words before your final jam, Rob? No, this was the second song. I always say no. And then I go, this was the second song that came right into my head. Why do you do that? Why do you say no and then say something? Because I think it's inconsequential. And then I think, well, it's still worth saying. But yeah. Okay okay so your final jam this was the second song that came into my head for a while here we go Little thoughts of angry young men Secret compartments hide all of the skeletons

Little girl wants to make her home with him And in the middle of the show she wonders Don't know what you last for, don't know what you last for When all your lovers know why Nightmares blind their minds eye I'm a die Your blue feels young and handsome So new to your bedroom floor You're not damn well where you go How come I don't like it? It sounds like a song I should know.

It sounds like something that would have played early at like Velvet Underground, or it's like it's very like Susie and the Banshees, very that early, like dark rave stuff they called it. You know, actually it's kind of stuff you'd hear at Ground Control. Yeah. On what date, September the? September 6th, I believe.

Yeah, we play that for sure. It's actually that vibe for sure. OK, bring it back up, and we'll get to the second chorus for sure. It's actually that vibe for sure. Okay, bring it back up and we'll get to the second chorus. It's like, oh, he's dead kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. But we'll go into the middle section and we'll talk. People get this. God bless blinded minds, I Your blue bits young and hassle

So new to your bedroom floor You know damn well where you're going Now there's a little instrumental break and then there's one more vocal and then we'll I'll talk about it. You're the boss, Bruce. It sounds almost like killing joke. Yeah, that's what I mean. Echoing the bunny man. Yep, that's exactly what I'm getting at.

Stay with me under these waves tonight. Be free for once in your life tonight If anyone on the live stream wants a guest artist because bob and I have no fucking idea who this is Just before we find out who this is Rob, when I said killing joke, I think of that song the 80s because it sounds like Come As You Are. There's a bit of like Come As You Are vibe going on. Who is this Rob? Jeff Buckley.

Another Jeff. Really? Another Jeff. What year? Turn it up and listen to the ending. I think the ending is really cool too. There's one more chorus. This is 97. Another Jeff. What year? Turn it up and listen to the ending. I think the ending is really cool too. There's one more chorus.

This is 97. It was released in 98. It's got a good finish. When did he record this? 96. When did he die? 97. Came outode 98.

Here's the ending. Wow. Come on now. I honestly, I don't think I've ever heard this. This was released, so he only released one album before he died. Yeah. Hallelujah. Great. Great. K he only released one album before he died. Yeah. Hallelujah. Great. Great came out 30 years ago in August 94, died in 97, May 29th, 1997, he drowned.

This album came out like May 26th, 1998. And this was unreleased shit that he was working on that he didn't, we wasn't happy with. He wasn't finished. So the day he died, he was waiting for his bandmates to meet him in Memphis and go in the start. This is from my drunk sweetheart. This is from sketches from my sweetheart, the drunk.

Came out in 98. And he, Tom Berlain from television had produced these songs. Sounds like television too. And so Jeff wasn't completely happy with what they were doing. He wanted to keep working on the songs, but this was all he had and then he died.

So, and to me, the fact that he drowned in the Wolf River in the Mississippi, and his songs are about oceans and bodies of water, like the middle of the song he says, stay with me under these waves tonight, and I'm like, holy shit. What's the name of this song? It's called Nightmares by the Sea.

Wow. And remind me, so Otis Redding gets in a plane crash, right? Yeah. Okay. I just wanna keep my, Nightmares by the Sea. Nightmares by the Sea. And I've always just thought it was a really cool song. So the whole album, it's a two album set and the first side is the stuff he was working

with Tom Verlaine that was done in the studio. Second part is all just demos and stuff. And it's so cool. So you were saying there's not, you know, first you were like, they're not going to get a better song than sitting by the dock of the bay. And then you were saying, we're not going to get a better song. We're not going to get a cooler song. Like that's a cool song. It's a cool song. Yeah. But this is what I loved about the songs.

You were playing like the meat puppets and the Nirvana stuff though. The sound of guitars when they're detuned. Like this is the thing that a lot of guys did. Neil Young, we just played as a bonus jam, which could have easily been the jam. But Godfather of grunge. Yeah.

That's that sound. I just love it so much. That's my sound man. That's right. We know, don't worry, we know. But for me as a keyboard player, I've just always dug those sounds. The tears are not enough quote.

That's my sound man. Yeah, because Foster wants them in too and he's like, that's like my sound man. But I've always been curious about the myth of Jeff Buckley and the reality of Jeff Buckley. The fucking guy drowned, the last lyrics on his album grace are asleep in the sand with the ocean washing and is there anything there's a mysterious circumstances around the drowning right well he was really in

boots or something he was wearing clothes and he went on to floating around sitting on the wall or something and he might have he was I went to the actual place where he drowned in Mississippi in Memphis I was there 10 has Tennessee right yeah he was in Memphis so I was there. So his tent is Tennessee, right? Yeah, he was in Memphis. So I was there 25 years ago. I was on tour with the Musical Cats, and we were in Memphis.

I was like, I have to see where this happened. It was the Wolf River. It's called, there's an embankment, and it's by a visitor center for the city. And he was just waiting with a friend of his for the band. They were killing time. And they drove down to the river, and he floated out onto the water.

He was like just in the river. He was like I'm gonna just go in the water and apparently the myth is that he was like floating on his back whistling a whole lot of love or something like a Led Zeppelin thing and there's a huge undercurrents there and they pulled him under. Not Sea of Love but a Honeydrip.

No. Cause that would be ironic. And he went under and they found him like four days later. No, fucking tragic and he was super young right? I was thinking when he was ready he was 26. Yeah, Jeff tragic. And he was super young, right? I was thinking, who was ready was 26. Yeah, Jeff was 29 and 30. When he died. Not the 27 of the, not that 27 club.

We played Kurt Cobain today. Yeah, 27 club. How many artists today are we gonna play of people who died young? That's too many. Okay, wow, well done, Rob Pruse. I did not know that song. And I wanna know, by the way,

if you've said, hey, name a Jeff Buckley song, all I can actually name is the cover of How I Really Am. It's barely a cover. I will fight to this day that it's barely a cover. Everybody who's done it since Jeff is a cover. No, no, no, no, I know the story. What about the guy from the Velvet Underground? Of course, of course.

So John Cale did it and Jeff was inspired by John Cale. But everybody since Jeff Buckley is a cover. And I dismiss all of them. I see. That's my words That's my it's my only even the Katie Lang. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine But the way Katie Lang according to Canada Kevin, I now remember it does a great version of the river Yeah, oh, yes. Her is as beautiful. She's wonderful. No, it's true. Yeah, Jeff is the originator of hallelujah

Thanks to John Cale and I need a moment to collect myself. Have we shouted everybody? Oh Yeah. Recycle my electronics.ca everybody. You got old tech, old electronics, old cables. Don't throw it in the garbage. So much stuff. I have to do that. Everybody don't throw that in the garbage. Bob. I know I have chemicals. They end up in our landfill. But what should we do with it? Mike, you got to go to recycle my electronics. I don't know if it works in America. If I do it, I'll make a tick tock. Oh yeah. And I'll never see it. Can you make tick tocks and then share them on something? On my Instagram. Oh, I see. I see. But it has,

but there's watermark for Tick-tock when you do that. That's fine. I don't care. Watermark the fuck out of it. I don't care. Okay. Yes. So we're, we're all in agreement. Tick-tock is for the kids and we should be off it. Well, no, I have to be on it now that I'm playing music for the kids. Oh, can I tell you guys? Yeah. Have you heard of Chappell Rhone? Yes. Yes. Okay. But I was like, I know about shop, but My daughter is big on Chappell Chappell Chappell Chappell Chappell Rhone, Charlie XCX. Oh, her name is amazing. Sabrina Carpenter.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Um, like I know her to Teddy swim. You know who her aunt is. Sabrina Carpenter's aunt. Is it Karen Carpenter? No, John Carpenter. Good guess. You're all good. Guess what? If I told you it was the voice of Bart Simpson? Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm a Scientology zone. Oh, she's a Scientologist. Yeah. She's a Scientologist. Oh, but I don't think Sabrina carpenter's a scientist. Yeah. Those kids, their music are nuts for espresso. That was a big espresso. It was the Sabrina carpenter song, but this chapel rown, she's a whole other, she did Lollapalooza. Her, like, so every song on that album,

there's like seven or eight songs on the album. I played four of them on Saturday night, and these girls were singing word for word for each one. It was, I've never seen anything like it. Yeah. No, she's amazing. Chapel Rhone. Her NPR Tiny Guest Concert is amazing, too.

Yes, I just saw that, too. I like how an old guy's talking about the new artist. I know. I feel like I'm talking to my daughter. And. Charlie XCX, her album with the Billie Eilish feature on it and there's a Lord remix. Oh, like these girls are all over it. But I also love it because it's like a new generation of, well, especially with Charlie XCX, it's like a new generation of electronic music. I haven't seen this kind of passion for music ever in the bar scene. There's a singer from

America, Taylor Swift. There's a singer from America, Taylor Swift. There's a fan, I don't know if you've heard. You know what, to be fair. My eight year old is a big Swiftie. Yeah, her fans are pretty rabid. I got a request for Taylor Swift for the first time last night. I didn't the first night.

I got lots of requests, again, for the artists that I mentioned. And then I got a Rihanna request. I got somebody said, would you play Drake? I played Drake. Uh, and then, you know, somebody asked for vanilla ice ice ice baby. And I was like, wow, okay. Yeah. But enough about Tyler Campbell. All right. I said, come on. I still enjoy ice ice baby. It's a great song. I know. I know everywhere I can karaoke that no problem. I don't even need the go ninja, go ninja, go from secret of the ooze. The second teenage me. I don't think about it. Uh, it doesn't cross my mind. You just said, I don't know what those things you just said. All right. Shout out to the teenage mutant and ninja turtles. That first movie, which didn't have been L. I. S. In it. I actually had a pass to a premier. I don't remember how I got it, but I took my buddy Joe who is Joe from TO who is in our WhatsApp group

Oh cool from TO Joe from TO I think is in Malta right now. Shout out to Malta Shout out to Malta. Okay, I like a so much like soul decisions. Ooh, it's kind of crazy That's a Jeremy Hopkins hot take and Canada Kev says that Katie Lang album that we're shouting out all these songs from is Songs of the 49th parallel. Oh, you're looking for it. And why, why is he Gord? Good to see you buddy. He says, uh, I assume, and this is your jam that you just kicked out Rob Pruse, uh, that it got no airplay. Like that's why Bob and I, we wouldn't know it unless we heard this. You'd have to seek it out. Yeah. That's like, that's not going to get play. No, no, no. Only if you're a fan, maybe, you know, depending on what year that was that it came out, you

might've heard it on like live in Toronto on the edge, you know, like, no, only if you're a fan. Maybe, you know, depending on what year that was that it came out, you might've heard it on like Live in Toronto on the Edge. Yes, possibly. You know, like George or Kim Hughes. Probably not though. But maybe, maybe, I'm gonna say maybe, because they did, at that time, there was still some autonomy, or at least some,

you could convince the music director, Neil Mann, at the time. Okay, but that's one spin. That's it, you would, that's it. That's all you would get, yeah. All right, one spin. That's true. Oh my goodness, we're down to our final jams here. Well, you've already kicked out your final jam, Rob. Great job. No, no clues by far. No queen.

Did you find any body of water jams from queen? I sure did. There was a song called seaside rendezvous that I chose not to add. And I used to play it on piano when I was 11 years old songs from queen. They would have a good river. I don't think so. What about Elton John? He looks like he's good for a body. John feels like Billy Joel's got river of dreams. Yeah, I didn't. I feel like David would have a good River. I don't think so. What about Elton John? He looks like he's good for a body. John feels like Billy Joel's got River of Dreams. Yeah, I didn't. I mean, that's that came to mind, but I don't love it. No, I know. I do love it.

I love Billy Joel, but I don't like that last big hit. Right. Yeah. River of Dreams was his last last album, actually. It's my and it's actually my favorite Billy Joel album of all time. Have you guys heard the new cover of We Didn't Start the Fire by like I have heard it. Yeah, it's by it's not all American rejects who is it one of those guys yeah it's one of those emo pop bands it's not horrible yeah I hated it at first because I was like who how dare they that's a ringing endorsement what they've done is they've they've just replaced all the lyrics with stuff that

happens in the eighty oh shit yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah They've, they've just replaced all the lyrics with stuff that's happened since the eighties. Oh shit. I hear that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Donald Trump assassination. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah for- Follow boy, follow boy. That would be mixing. Which by the way, named after a Simpsons character. Simpsons character, yes, of course. That's funny. It's not horrible. I hated it. I hated it when I heard it. And then I was like, ah, good for them. Good for them.

Anyway. Kids don't know, the kids, right. The kids don't get it. Okay, are you ready for your final jam, Bob Willett? I am. It is featured on a very popular album that is 30 years old. Okay.

A lot of camp on this episode. We got a lot of water here. You're right. We have a lot of fucking water. Freshwater, salt water, three oceans. We got the Bay of Wendy. We have Great Lakes. We can throw a rock and hit a Great Lake. Don River. Yeah, right. Humble River.

That doesn't look perfect. Credit River. Humber River. Pruse is cheating here. Shazamming it. Shazamming it so he knows what it is. Rob Pruse doesn't know there's art in it. I know who it is.

He's so American. I just like Shazamming something. Careful, too much crosstalk we've been told. Yeah, careful. Shazamming it so he knows what it is. Rob Bruce doesn't know this art is his. He's so American. I just like the Shazamming song. Careful, too much crosstalk we've been told. Yeah, careful, shut up. I'll mute you.

More a trip than a quest. You don't get to do that. You don't get to Shazam songs on tone. I love this. Where to now if I had to guess I'm afraid to say an arc has nest She'll grin or she'll grin for so higher I'm sorry, not 30 years, yeah, 25-ish. Good, because I have Jake Gold on line two here. He wants a correction made.

Oh, I need to correct something. So earlier I said that the Meat Puppets song that went to 47 on the Billboard Hot 100 had backup vocals from Kurt Cobain. I need to correct the record here. Kurt did not provide background vocals for that song. Oh, he did. Good, thank God. The estate of Kurt Cobain was on line two.

That's right. I don't need basement dweller fact checking me. So yeah, Chagrin Falls, Chagrin Falls, Ohio. It's an actual place. It's an actual place? Yes. What a great name. Can we pause?

Is a waterfall a body of water? That's why, yeah. I didn't know a river is a body of water. Why wouldn't a river be a body of water? Because bodies of water to me, like they're a body, they stay. I don't know a river is a body of water. Why wouldn't a river be a body of water? Because bodies of water to me, like they're a body, they stay, like I don't know, they're bigger. Your rivers are traveling, the water's gonna move. So a waterfall travels.

And it falls into a body of water. Let me just think on this, so definitely oceans, definitely lakes, bays, seas. We need a rap call on this. Streams, rivers, those are all bodies of water. Is a waterfall, cause then you could kick out TLC. on this streams, rivers and those are all bodies of water is a is a waterfall, because then you could kick out TLC. Yeah, but why would I

so she songs, I like a rainbow yesterday. That's why I'm seeing a rainbow. Yes, it's fine, but okay. I'll allow it until someone tells me it's not a body. So I would argue that this is probably the last like, well, maybe Music at Work, but this is the one of the last hip albums that have big hits on it. Well, what about It's a Good Life If You Don't Weak? That's not from In Violet Light. I wouldn't call any of those big hits. Music at Work has definitely had big hits.

Music at Work would be the last one. This is the second. This one had poets, though, and Bob Cajun and fireworks. This one is like a hit after hit after hit. Oh, those are big fucking hits. Those are big hits. I saw them on this tour. Yeah. And the vaccination scar, not a hit, not, not. I mean, not like a hit like we say hits are, I think. And I was in radio at the time. Like, I mean, you wouldn't even vaccination scar. I don't think was a like an eight. I heard it a lot on 102 or two point one vaccination, not not familiar with that station.

It's what are the numbers? See so this is David Marsden wrote me a note and said he'd like to reschedule his visit. Amazing. So this is the second last song on the album right before emperor penguin. I love this album. I saw I saw them. I've seen I saw them in so many tours. I like it. Like if I've seen Pearl Jam 40 times, which I have, I've seen the tragically have 20 times. Oh yeah, easily, easily 20 times. I when we it's just a neat little song. I don't really have any story behind it. There's not much literature out there. There's not a lot of articles about what the song's about. Just a cool song,

just a cool song. And I see a bunch of people on their YouTube page saying they're from sugar and fall. That's cool. Tuning in the only, my, my mind blow isn't really a mind blow, but it's a album cut that didn't make the cut, but is on the new release for the 25th anniversary or 20th anniversary. We'd have to ask Jake Gold for which one, but it was one unlike the new one, which we, I think we all universally love. This is Bumblebee, which really had no resonance at all. It's not a, it's just, it's just okay.

Not as good as the other one. Yeah. We we like very much. Which we like from the... Can I engage you a while? Can I tug on your elbow? It's not a bad song. I like hearing Gord's voice. Yes. Be my little sailboat. And after you've looked into the half-naded eyes of the wicked,

almost the most you can do is roll with the waves gently kicking. This is a transformer jam called Bumble Bee. Dad joke. Not getting any reaction for that one. Nope. Not even a courtesy. Nothing. No. Geez. Sorry. Might as well call it Optimus Prime

and then we get something. So anyways, yeah. Whether or not a waterfall is a body of water. We have a ruling in the live chat. Why the fuck do they get a ruling? Well, because. Who the fuck are they? YYZGord says Wikipedia, he's got a link and everything. Of course.

Says that a waterfall is a body of water. There you go, thank you. Well then fine, Yeah, they do. But I did say we'd allow it, right? Yeah, I think it's all right. Well, there's been very little controversy on this episode. So I thought, you know, maybe, you know what? Yeah, for whatever reason, even though it's not a remarkable song,

it really isn't in the in the in the catalog of tragedy hip song, chagrin falls is not, but it's always stuck out in my head because I love the word chagrin because it looks like charging, but you pronounce it chagrin Falls is not, but it's always stuck out in my head. Yeah. Because I love the word Shagrin. Yeah. Because it looks like Chargin. But you pronounce it Shagrin. Whenever I see, when you read it in a book, if you see it, oh, with much Shagrin, it looks like Chargin.

And I've always thought Chargin. Yeah, that's true. Chargin. Shagrin's such a great word. Anyhow, that's why I put it in. Shagrin. I'm kind of glad, remember, we don't actually talk to each other about our jams.

I had mine loaded in first. Yep. I almost mine loaded in first. I almost picked Sea of Love. That was on my shortlist and I was going to tie it back to the wedding song and I was going to do the whole honey drippers thing. I had it all mapped out in my head. But then you bring your jams. I had different jams.

Bob put in his jams very recently. I feel like they came in last night. It's like Sunday. Yeah, Sunday or whatever. Okay. But I'm glad we're closing here with Bob kicking out some tragically hip. Maybe I'll bring this down. Have you seen the preview for the film? Yeah.

Preview? No, but I got like multiple at the same moment. I got like three or four different PR emails about the fact. So the full trailer is there. Yeah. It's a two minute full trailer. It's Arms, arms hair standing up. It looks so good. If Jake Gold doesn't give me multiple passes to see this at TIFF, did you notice what's not on the TIFF? And Wise Blood tipped me off to this. And then I have to tell

you who I met at another craft brewery last week, somebody you know from the radio world, but multiple things going on here. One is, do you know what's not on the TIFF schedule for the fall? Let me guess. The CFNY doc. Yeah. So I was told by Scott Turner and Alan Cross and Iver Hamilton that it would make its debut at TIFF in 2024, but it's not on the schedule. But this hip doc is. Yep. It's a four-part series that's going to be shown on Prime. Four parts? Four parts. Wow.

I think it's four hours. Well, I look forward to it. I love the Tragic Club, as you know. But did you know this? I'm going to sing a little bit of a jingle because I don't have it loaded up or anything. It's hard to find anyway. But tell me if you know this one. Don't want to be flabby anymore.

It's Jamie. Don't want to be a fat guy. Yeah, that's Jamie. Remember, I don't shape, dude. Look at me. I'm a pair. I met him at this. Oh, hey, Jimmy.

I met him. Jimmy Watson, Hamish. He listens to Toronto Mike. He's one of the best people I've ever met in my life. What's that? So blubbery, blubbery. It was a sort of gym. I'm a pair.

Look at me. I'm a pair. He also was a Cito Gaston. Cito up beat. He was the voice of mojo radio. What was that for the pair? It was for a gym away some kind of a gym. I don't remember what he was. So he was a creative writer with the edge CFNY back in the day with Pete Cuno and Hocklick and Grant all kinds of people. Carmen, all these great writers who wrote spots and then also wrote a bunch of bits. And Jamie is now a full-time voice actor

and he is featured in so many things. He's the voice of all the pure country stations across the country. So we're chatting it up. He's like, he listens to Toronto Mike. I've been asking him to come on my podcast. Okay, okay, it's funny you mentioned that. So I said to him, I said, dude, I said, if you came over,

I would do 90 minutes on that don't wanna be flabby. I would just do 90 minutes. And he goes, oh, and he just, it kinda looks like he's singing, but he goes, oh, I don't know if I'm that interesting. I said, well, I might do it. He goes, but then he stops and he says, oh shit. He goes, I don't even know if he said shit.

He said, oh, if I come on your podcast, I've already said no to like 100 people or something. So he was, you can't just come on Toronto Mike. If he's been telling the Bob will let's have the world. So he gives me humble and friends of the, he gives me credit. He's like, you're very persistent. I'm like, I don't, you don't have to come in. I'm such a fan of him as a human being. He's one of the night. He would have been out there with Darren was lick Who is it was the promotions to our buzz with Freddie? Yeah him? He was One of the reason if you listen to mojo radio when we launched mojo radio He was on every piece of imaging that we did and I worked with him We produced a whole bunch of humble and Fred imaging together. He is one of the funniest human beings I've ever met and and Fred imaging together. He is one of the funniest human beings I've ever met. Jamie Watson is the best. So I met him for the first time last week. Yeah. Sorry. I had to take

over, but I just, I'm such a fan of him. I just, I just thought of it randomly. He's such a nice guy too. And he's, he seemed like a nice guy. Yeah. And he's, he's been, he's one of the guys, you know, you find out people, you know, when you're, when, you know, when the chips are down, which they have been for me a few times and recently, he's always one of the first people to reach out. I wanted to hire him. He's actually, he's the imaging voice for 94.9 The Rock now.

Oh wow. He was, I wanted him for Big FM, but he's already in the market on the country station for Bell. So I wanted, because he's, you give him a script and the script could be, let's say the script is a B, he takes it to an A plus. That's so. So it's insane what he does. Wow. I love that. Jimmy don't want to be flabby anymore.

What the fuck is this? Look at me. I'm a pair. Okay. So let me, uh, if you don't mind, actually let's listen closely to this whole song if we can. Okay. Oh, now we want to listen to not talk over a song. I said I'm the boss around. Who's the boss? I'm the boss. OK, let's listen. This is my final body of water jam, and then I need to talk about it. And I'm glad Bob kicked out that song and that fun fact

mind blow there because it sets the table nicely. Here we go. I always stared at the lake For my entire life I saw something today the love of my life And there has always been Between the sun and me Blocking it, it brings it to me On the silver ego trail Sparkles and dances with all the warmth and calm I realize today, your Lake Ontario You will wear low That's The Lake by Gord Downie and he recorded that song when he knew he was dying. So Gord wrote a very personal album called Introduce Yourself. Yeah.

Y-E-R of course. Year. That's how they do it in the hip world. Okay. So Gord Downey writes this song, The Lake. And I mean, I heard it while kayaking on Lake Ontario and it struck me so different. Let me tell you, first of all, it haunts you.

You hear it. And at first I always interpreted this song as a love letter to Lake Ontario, which I live near and is part of my daily life, is seeing it as I go on bike rides. And now that I have my kayak, thanks to the wonderful FOTMs like you guys, I'm on Lake Ontario all the time

and I'm listening to the lake about Lake Ontario. He's got this line, he goes, silvery gold trout sparkles and dances with all the warmth and calm loving hand to my child. I realize today your Lake Ontario, the love of my life. You willow. So I'm hearing it. It's like, oh, it's a beautiful, it's a love letter to Lake Ontario, but fuck that. No way.

His daughter. His daughter, right. His daughter's name is Willow. Wow. Willow. This song, it's like, and then you hear the yours, there's different ways to spell yours, right? Like, it's like, is it your, no. Yeah, Willow, he realizes today, like, you are Willow,

you're Lake Ontario, you're the love of my life. It's beautiful, haunting song, The Lake by Gore Downey, a love letter to his daughter Willow. It daughter will so beautiful Willow Downey is a very Accomplished visual artist now too. Yeah, she's got some beautiful work and you can she takes commissions. She's on Instagram I would highly recommend following her cuz it's not just cuz she's heard She has really great work But see her kind of what develop as an artist in

Conjunction with having the one of the most famous Canadians ever as your father. Yeah. It's really interesting. Wow. So introduce yourself. This is the sixth solo album by Gore Downey. It was released posthumously.

So this comes out 10 days after his death. Right. Arts and crafts produced by Kevin Drew. Kevin Drew. Absolutely. Now, while Downey described this album, yource Yourself, as being about specific people in his life. So he's like, he knows he's dying.

It's his last solo album that he completed and he's writing about people in his life. And there's the Willow song and it's hauntingly beautiful, The Lake. And then of course he passes away and at the Juno Awards, Sarah Harmer, Dallas Green, Kevin Hearn. They perform a medley of songs from Introduce Yourself, and then they perform Bob Cajun. And this album wins the Juno Award for Adult Alternative Album of the Year. And then Downey and Drew, Kevin Drew, they win Songwriter of the Year for a song called A Natural. And The North.

Okay. But I'm just going to throw a little bonus jam in here because you kicked out a tragically hip song, Bob Bullitt. Yes. And there are many tragically hip songs that are about bodies of water. Yes.

But one of the greats is this one. Oh yeah, Lake Fever. Right. From Music at Work. Yeah, Lake Fever, right? From Music at Work, the seventh studio album by The Trajectory Hit. We can skip to the time of neither When we're together, even when we're apart I'll tell you a story about the lake fever We can skip to the coito fury You didn't say you'd guess or know neither You whispered in her ear And this album wins a Juno Award for Best Rock Album 2001 music at work, which you know, Bob and I

just had the debate of like what's the last hip album a big monster fucking hits on it and you're probably right like I think of in in violent light I love it one of my favorite but I don't think it has monster hits it's one of my favorite hip hop you might be right Bobby just Sam by the way that yeah I have your favorite I don't your. She's with the greatest. I have introduced yourself on vinyl. It's just, it's actually, I'm going to say, it's not an easy listen.

It's actually because you know he's dying. And it's so raw and real. It's almost reminiscent of the Johnny Cash American songbook. Because Kevin Drew just really, it kept it really, really real. And it's not easy to listen to. Like, were you listening to it in headphones while you're kayaking?

I have to go back and listen to the whole thing. It's really good, but it's not, it's not a feel good album, that's for sure. No, it's not like the Bob Rock stuff that came out subsequently, which was recorded before, because this is the last recording. It's not the last release. No, it was his last recording.

Yes, that and Secret Path were the last two things that he did. Well, Secret Path, a lot of that was recorded before he was sick. You know, this is like a- It was a project. I saw him while he was sick do it though. I saw, I did go, like, he played,

they played at Roy Thompson. It was crazy. The whole story. So I'm glad that we got to hear some- Oh, to hear some. Think of the great Canadian artists we played today. The Tea Party for goodness sake. We played some Gordani, some tragically hip there. We played some Joni Mitchell. We played some Neil Young. We played. We have one of the greatest Canadian keyboardists of all time. Bodies of water water are us I mean the ocean and the bodies of water it's nature we didn't play ocean pearl by 5440 oh shit FOTM

jam there's so many extra songs that you could play oh we could yeah what any thoughts on the announcement I read on LinkedIn Elvis's website about Erica M opening for glass I saw that what so Erica M has for Glass Tiger. I saw that. What? I did not see this. So Erica M has been put on LinkedIn. Sings music? I don't know if it was Alan Fru gave her a call. I don't know, but somebody in the band invited her to be the opening act for Glass Tiger.

So you go to see Glass Tiger and the opening act is Erica M. Is she gonna like cover Lee Aaron or something? I don't know what she's gonna do. If she's gonna do like a spoken word, like a one woman show. She might talk, maybe she'll, maybe talk, maybe it'll be like talking up the documentary sort of like a version of the much music world.

299 Queen Street, well maybe, speaking of docs that haven't been released, who knows what's going on there? Your guess is as good as mine. Are you any ideas what you wanna do for the September? We did back to school jams in- I don't know, you mentioned songs that we heard first. Okay. Okay. So, but that, but there's gotta be some caveats to that, right? Like parameters. Yeah. Because like they have,

do they have to go on to have other hits? Cause otherwise it could be just a lit or a bunch of one hit wonders. You can't go and define what a hit is. You have to, it has to be an artist with, well, we'll have to make it up. Yeah. We've got to figure it out. Top 40 hits. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Multiple top 40 is like the top 40 on CF and why top 40 on popular like top 40 Canadian hits. You can define it as you wish. Bottom line is, I'm going to get yelled at. Like Nina, like you can't say, Oh, that 99 red balloons.

Right. Because the first song I ever heard, still my favorite Nina song. That doesn't work. Right. It be a band like Tea Party. Tea Party has multiple top 40 hits in this country. And the first song I heard from Tea Party is The River, and that's still my favorite song. So like a band or a band or an artist that you heard first with one song made you want to know more. Well, you couldn't help it because they had hits

and you are weird hits. Okay, okay, okay. I'm thinking somebody like Jewel. Like Jewel, like who was the life Jewel? I did like one, I can't know. Yeah, Jewel's a good thing. Or Collective Soul, Collective Soul is a good one. Shine.

Is there anything else? You don't know who they are, don't worry about it. I do, I love that song Shine, but it's the only song. No, don't worry, they have several other hits. Oh yeah. Fucking lot of hits. That's a great one, I already have a bunch of hits. Okay, I'm down.

Yeah, so we can massage hits. So that's a great one. I already have a bunch of head. Okay. Um, I'm down. Yeah. So we can massage it. Yeah. So yeah, multiple hits and the first song that they have. Here's a good one. I love Christina Aguilera. Yeah. But my favorite song is Jeannie in a bottle. Cause that was the first single. See how this works. Yeah. Yeah. Or, uh, do you have to love the person like beyond like, are you going to just pick somebody for the first song that you heard and then they had other hits? Yeah. It could be, it could be either or one does you don't have to even love the fucking song It's simply that this remains your favorite Is like if you like always too hot never too cold by Alanis Morris said better than that that's her first single I don't know that song that's from her album before I don't know that how did he become a oh, yeah

I forgot he co-wrote romantic because he's good at what he does. I only know that you don't even know 95 You ought to know you know, I don't know anything before that but I think I guess I don't like you didn't watch much music What you didn't watch much me sure but not all Lovers in a dangerous time the barren ladies cover is the first brand a lady song I ever heard. Oh really see you're cover is the first Barenaked Lady song I ever heard. Oh, really? See, you're blowing it now. Because I didn't have the yellow cassette. I didn't have the yellow cassette.

But they played it on CFNY like crazy. And I was a 680 kid at the time. OK. So. Because Yoko Ono might be somebody's first. Right. But my first was Lovers in a Dangerous Time. And if I love that song better than any other Barenaked Lady song, I'll get it.

So start thinking and we'll do it. You ready, guys? That'll be fun. OK. You have a good time? Always. This is the first time the crowd yelled at us in the live chat. I know. I need to revisit this. Stop talking. Again,

Friday, September 6th or any Saturday. Well, don't come out on the Saturdays guys. I know who's listening. You're gonna be way too old. I'm way too old to be there. But Friday, September 6th, I'm doing a set at ground control. Please come out. It'd be a lot of fun. And that brings us to the end of our 1,534th show. You can follow me on Twitter and Blue Sky. I'm all over the place at Toronto Mike. Just go to torontomic.com if you're looking for me.

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Do you know the founder of Nelvana is my next guest on Toronto Mike? His name is Clive A. Smith. No way. He sold out to chorus, I guess. And they're fucking it up now name is Clive A. Smith. He sold out to Chorus I guess and they're fucking it up now but Clive A. Smith. He's big on the Care Bearers. He's all over the place. He married a voice from Care Bearers. He's also on FOTM. Which bear? Great question. Melanie Melody.

Okay. Oh, okay. I don't know what voice she did. I remember her. Jesus. Lots to talk about with Clive A. Smith. I think that's Wednesday. See you all then. But I like it much better going down on you. Yeah, you know that's true because everything is coming up, rosy and gray. Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow warms us today. And your smile is fine and it's just like mine and it won't go away.

Good luck. See you all then. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. But the smell of snow warms us today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine

And it won't go away Cause everything is rosy now Everything is rosy, yeah Everything is rosy and gray Yeah, yeah