Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toronto Mike'd #15

Episode Date: November 19, 2012

Toronto Mike and Rosie are joined by Phil the Friday Intern and chat about Vince Carter, a funny intern story and discuss Mike's Gemini award

What up Rosie? Hello! How's it going? It's going good. How are you doing? Great. This is episode number 15. 15, can you believe we're already there.

Don't laugh at me, Rosie. I'm not laughing. Honestly, the hardest part is... You're doing really good. Manning all... You're responsible for all the levels and stuff and the audio bits, but also driving the content. So maybe when I'm struggling like that, you could actually say something that takes longer than two seconds.

Oh, I didn't know it was my fault. All right. actually say something that takes longer than two seconds i didn't know it was my fault all right so uh let me repeat that this is episode 15 he occurred an injury dealing with weights in the weight room so he stitched up in the left hand doing all this it's over ladies and gentlemen. The judges are coming over the table to congratulate. Rosie. What do you got for us here? What's all this?

That was somebody who's half man. Well, he was. You look at me like you have no idea. So this is going to be a fascinating discussion. He was half man, half amazing. That was number 15, Vincent Lamar Carter. Awesome. Vince Carter, Air Canada, half man, half amazing.

There were times, and that was 2000, that clip. That's when he won that slam dunk competition when T-Mac, half man, half amazing. There were times, and that was 2000, that clip. That's when he won that slam dunk competition when T-Mac, his cousin, so-called cousin, threw it up for him. And that was probably the height of insanity in this city. He's the best player to wear a Raptors logo. He was so talented and so much fun to watch. And we were lucky to have him for years. And then there were these lows. I can never forget that that game seven in the second round against the 76ers,

and he attended his graduation at North Carolina. So he's at his graduation, then he has to fly back for game seven in the second round against Allen Iverson in the 76ers. I don't know. Can you imagine Sidney Crosby attending some school function the day of game seven of the second round? I don't think that would happen. What do you think, Phil?

Don't you dare say harrow, people. There, that sounds more politically correct. But, you know, Carter, maybe he really wants that balance, work-life balance, because at the end of the day, he spent that many years studying. You might as well give him the benefit of the doubt and say, you know, something's more important than just one playoff game in the middle of nowhere against Philadelphia. Yeah, mental attempt a lot to him. He'll never use that diploma.

He was being paid millions of dollars to play for the Raptors. Where's his priorities? Right, he could have attended another graduation. It doesn't have to be that one. Right, but he did. And then, as you recall, he put up the three-pointer that would have put us in the next round, and it clanked and didn't fall because this is Toronto.

How come the number is basketball? They've been hockey up until now. No, is that true? Oh, there's been Blue Jays. Oh, sorry. Roberto Alomar. Yeah, there's been Blue Jays. Okay.

But this is the first Raptor. This is the first basketball. It took until number 15 for a Raptor to show up. But for Vince Carter, yeah, he had to make an exception. I'll never forget, though, when he asked for that trade and he just sort of tanked. He just didn't put in a full effort. What a bum. And then we got nothing for him

and then suddenly in New Jersey he rediscovers that he's a half man, half amazing. He's an infuriating player who I loved and loathed and I'm glad he's never won an NBA title. But now you loathe him.

I loathe him now and I just root against him. I just root against his team. I heard some rumors that he wants back to the Raptors for one more year or something like that next year. But I highly doubt it. It's probably just rumor and circumstance. He said this to

Cebulski on TSN radio. He said that he would consider coming back or something to that effect. And then the rumor mill started. But I think that, what do you call it, that door's been closed. That bridge has been burned. It's time to move on.

We should just mention that we have Phil, the associate producer for the Humble and Fred show, is joining us again for this episode. Thank you so much. Good evening. So, Phil, yeah, you used to be known as Phil the Friday intern. Right, and then I was Phil the Intern Wrangler, and then Phil with two vaginas.

Phil the Friday Intern had something, maybe it was just a first name, but I think it seemed more catchy. Oh yeah, I mean the first day I came in, ironically, I was going to be called something else, Phil on Friday, or Friday Phil. But now, well it became, was it Phil the Fridayiday intern and then uh what was it kim jong phil yeah the irony was um kim jong il died the day after i got my hair cut so i come in on the friday

because i used to obviously intern on fridays and howard and fred were staring at me and wondering if the north korean government just showed up or something because Kim Jong-il was standing right there. So Kim Jong-fil. Well, let's get these shout-outs out of the way before we get too deep in the program. I want to give a shout-out to Gary. Not much to say about Gary except he's a frequent commenter and it's always interesting to read

what he has to say. And Freddie P, Fred Patterson of the Humble and Fred show, who frequently comments. And it's a good chance for me to tell everybody that I used to work on a project with Fred called Canadian Thinker. All the archived entries, Fred was the author, and it was his thoughts on politics and current events, etc. His right-wing thoughts, because a lot of Canada, he felt, the media was very liberal and left-wing,

and he wanted to have a right-wing slant on things. So I basically worked with Fred on Canadian Thinker, where he expressed these views, and I always use it as proof that I help people with alternative views get heard, because a lot of Fred's writings were about, you know, Rob Ford being a positive note about Rob Ford and he loved Stephen Harper, for example.

He still does. So you mean you helped him in the sense that you helped with his website? Yeah, canadianthinker.com. There's still an archive there. He doesn't write there too often. He's focused on Humble and Fred, but Freddie and I got to know each other pretty well during this period, Canadian Thinker period. Interesting. I didn't know that.

Hey, Phil, have you ever read anything on CanadianThinker.com? I did. I did. I mean, I believe when I started interning, I read a couple articles because Fred basically came up with his views. And he was essentially linked from the Humble and Fred site. And I needed to figure out how his views were. But it's quite interesting. He also keeps his Goo Heads on there too. So if you guys miss Mr. Goo Head, it might be a good idea to check that site out

because it's still there. Did you play Goo Head on – I never heard the Kingston show because I woke up – We did play Mr. Goo Head on KROQ, but there were some people who loved it. There were some people who were going to miss it, but then you have people saying, oh, he's such a dink. You know, Mr. Goo Head is an alienating figure. That's a 90s term, as you can tell. No, he's alienating.

I didn't mind him. I liked him in the 90s. I don't like him as much today as I did in the 90s, but I think that has more to do with being 38 versus being 21 years old or whatever. I'd agree. But I don't hate him, But he's an alienating figure. It's funny because you're talking about being an intern on the

Humble and Fred show. I must say I have quite an affection for Humble and Fred interns. So much so that I actually married one. Really? What? Yes, my husband was an intern on the Humble and Fred show,

and I think subsequently an associate producer as well in the early, in the late 90s. But Rose, would Humble or Fred remember him? He must, because I remember when Scott was working in Ottawa, he came home and we went to the movies and we, he, I think, I can't remember which one has a daughter. Howard has two daughters and Fred has one daughter. I think it was Howard and he was at the movies with his daughters and that was the, that was the one time I met him.

So he obviously remembered him because it was several, several years later. That's fascinating. That's fascinating. So yeah, I do have a, I have a penchant for Humble and Fred interns. So today we learned Rosie married a former Humble and Fred intern and left him for the current Humble and Fred intern, Phil.

Because in episode one, you did declare a crush for Phil, as I recall. A younger model. Sorry, Scott, but you can't compete with this Phil here. I could go to AM640 and intern for them and try to, you know, Scott intern for AM640 too.

That's so funny. You guys have a lot of similarities here. Phil's seeing someone. Scott is safe. She sounds like a wingnut, Phil. That's not going to work out. Rosie. Yes.

So we had a pretty good discussion last week I think it was with Andrew Stokely about lowest of the low two weeks ago is that two weeks ago and every single episode ends with a lowest of the low song yes my favorite one and

did you buy tickets is my question so you're not going you're not My favorite one. And did you buy tickets is my question. No. So you're not going. You're not going to see Lois of the Low at the Horseshoe next month. No, not this time, no. So I'm going to go on Thursday, and then Andrew messaged me to say he's actually bought tickets to go Friday. So we wondered if you would be going and the trifecta would be complete. No.

Scott would. I was actually thinking abouta would be. No, Scott would. I was actually thinking about doing it as a Christmas present for him. But yeah, no, we're we have a little guy. So it's we have to carefully. You also have a mother, though, and they come in handy. Yes, but you can't. We also have a lot of we actually have a lot of weddings and parties in December. So the lowestest of the Low concert didn't make the cut this time for babysitting. Okay, so there might be

still, there might still be some tickets for anyone out there who wants to check. I'm looking forward to it. It's a band I love. Phil, do you know Lowest of the Low? Unfortunately, Mike, I'm about 10 years too late on that one. You know, in the late 90s, I was barely 10 years old, right?

So, I think the funny thing is the most Canadian singer I've heard was Corey Hart. But that's about it. But that was one of some of his late stuff. Oh, his late, horrible stuff. Yeah, it's pop-ish and completely in a whack. Not the boy in the box and the sunglasses at night. I didn't exist when he released Sunglasses at Night. No, but I didn't exist for the Beatles, but I hear enough of it.

Phil, let me just get a gauge on this, since I don't talk to too many people born in the 90s. You don't remember at all Blue Jays being World Series champions. Oh, I remember that. I was about four, though. So you do remember it? Yeah, the big newspaper headlines and the TV. Oh my gosh, your baby. No, but he remembers it, so that's older than I thought. I was born about two months

after the Seoul Olympics. Okay, so yeah, so you, yeah, I just watched the documentary. That was Ben Johnson's. I mean, well,

we were talking about baby names the last podcast, you know, with your friend. Baby Phil. Yep. Exactly. Baby Phil.

Baby Mrs. Huckaphill. I was actually born, listen to this, when I was born, my father said, well, he was a horse stable hand up in Caledon at the time, at Caledon East. And his boss was having a kid the same year. And he's like, what are you naming him as? And the boss said, you know, I'm naming my kid Philip because it's Greek for horse lover.

So that's a nice name. So my dad's like, okay, I'm going to name him Philip as well. And he's like, you serious? So they're like, okay, well, maybe we'll differentiate you. So my official name is not Philip. It's Brian Philip. Okay. As in Brian Mulrooney.

I was named after Brian. Oh, my gosh. That's so interesting. So by the time I got into school, you know, Jean Chrétien was in power and people thought Mulrooney was the dumps. So they called me Philip instead. Oh, man. Hey, there you go.

So you spell it with one L or two L's? Two L's. Two L's. See, this is very interesting because... Rosie, you're banging the table again. I know, I'm so sorry. Two L's, because that seems to be a North American... Oh, yes, it's a North American phenomenon. To spell it with two L's, whereas, like, Prince

Philip, one L. So just interesting. He just happens to be Greek as well. But one of my early pharmacists said, you know what? I'm going to spell you with an F. F-I-L-I-P. Well, I've seen that as well, just not as commonly. It's prevalent. No, it's kind of funny, though.

Yeah, no. So Brian Philip. Brian Philip Hong. What a very regal name. In a way. In a way. It's just coincidental. I mean, I was supposed to have a middle name. What a very regal name. In a way, in a way. It's just coincidental. I mean, I was supposed to have a middle name.

It was supposed to be Brian. So my mother wrote down, well, because she's Chinese and she knows the Chinese system of writing names down was last name first, first name last. I see. So she's like, okay, well, since you have a middle name, Hong Brian Philip. So I don't have a middle name. I have two first names. I think middle names are grossly overrated.

Yeah, but this was 1988, though. They were overrated in 1988 as well. I never used my middle name. What was it? 1988 was the year of electric youth, wasn't it? Yeah, that's actually what it's gone down in the annals of history. Electric youth and then the next year skydiggers or something? I will give you

everything that you ever wanted. I actually like middle names. I think they're very regal. My son has two middle names, one for each grandfather because I love princes and kings. Why stop there? Why not just do four, five,

six? May I finish this time? May I finish my sentence? I like those princes and kings that have so many names. Oh, yes. Something about it I like. Well, one of the sultans in Malaysia has something like 32 names. So it's Ali Muhammad. He's the sultan of Jahur, and he has 32 names.

I like it. Uma Thurman just named her daughter, and she got a lot of, I think it was Uma Thurman, she got a lot of flack for all the, I think she has like seven names. Oh, it's ridiculous. It's pompous. It's like a shopping list. Phil, what do you know about the Humble and Fred Network? So I'm having discussions with Humble and Fred about putting Toronto Mic'd on the Humble

and Fred Network, and I have this ready to go. This is the Humble and Fred Radio Network. It's all set. That's my stinger. And I believe that to be Dan Duran. Wow. Really? You mean Dan Duran and his Wang Chung?

Everybody Wang Chung tonight. You know, Dan Duran's son and my son were best buds. We used to go camping with the beavers and stuff. This is before I knew Dan. The animals, right? Not as in the second meeting to the name beaver right he was in the neighborhood no there's a different beaver but um the humble and fred radio network what do you know about it well we are a set of shows that are on the specific list and

basically howard and fred want to take you under their wings because they've already gone through have they ever heard my show? I know. It's hard to explain, but they're trying to foster the podcasting world in general because it's just a hard industry in general, just to think about it. Because at the end of the day, when someone wants to listen to radio, they just turn on the power button on their radios or sets or boom boxes or ghetto blasters, and suddenly they have something. But to have a podcast like yours, Mike, for example, you actually need people to go on your website, go into that specific page, and actually download that stuff.

So they're trying to make that case more compelling. To get people—you get my point. It's sort of like satellite radio. To get people, you get my point. It's sort of like satellite radio. You actually have to put an action in in order to get the content. Okay, so you're saying the idea of the Humble and Fred network is one-stop shopping? Right.

Is that what you're saying? It makes it easier for, let's say, Humble and Fred listeners to tune in to Warden Now or the Jeff Leeson's program called Leeson's Laugh Lounge or Toronto Mike if you're on that list. But it's easier because you're already on HumbleAndFred.com? Right. On HumbleAndFredVideo.com. Well, that's the address people know. And they're promoting it like nuts like that.

So is that how you think? Yep. Do you think that's how people listen to the podcast? They go to HumbleAndFred.com and they listen there? Well, it depends on what we're doing right now, because I believe that's part of the original idea. But the other part is, with Warden Al, for example, we could pull a celebrity interview from them. You get my point. It's all about synergy as well.

Cross-marketing? Like the intern show is essentially a bunch of highlights from the Humble and Fred show. So here's my question. What's in it? So Humble and Fred, let's say they turn someone on to Warden Al because they use a Warden Al clip. Yes. And they're like, that's amazing. I got to hear this show.

And they find out how to subscribe. And now they're listening to Warden Al. Right. So what's in it for Humble and Fred there exactly? Well, they basically drive more listenership the other way around. So let's say. So they're driving people to Warden Al. Because Warden Al aren't going to drive anyone to Humble and Fred.

That's safe to say. In a way. In a way. In a way. So in a way not. Because they also have the to drive anyone to Humble and Fred. That's safe to say. In a way. In a way, in a way so, in a way not, because they also have the prestigious name of representing Humble and Fred. I mean, Warden Al and I went up to Newmarket a few weeks ago to see Glass Tiger.

I love Glass Tiger. Oh, I love Glass Tiger as well. I don't have that on my cell phone. You know what? I had a friend. I had a friend, and she's from the same high school, same class as I. And she was the original drummer's niece. They're not so fond of the original drummer anymore, but his niece.

Drummers are interchangeable in most bands. It's true, but the original drummer's niece went to school with me. So it's sort of as if I'm going back up to Keswick High School in a way. Because I get to meet all these people who are connected that way. So cool. So, okay, so cool so okay so just so i get this straight because i would love to be on the humble and fred network you know i already consider myself part i'm going to start playing uh this is the humble and fred

radio network why is it a guy's everybody wang chung tonight it's the guy's voice but what is uh so i'm just trying to understand so So Humble and Fred would benefit because? They have to go to the humbleandfredradio.com site to find you. But, okay. They're driving traffic that way. But I'm not there. I mean, I'm at torontomic.com. Right, but you can do, well, there's more platforms than torontomic.com, of course.

I mean, like our The Rogers deal, for example. I mean, we have an independent site, and then Rogers has their own version of repurposing the content. And Howard and Fred basically want to spread their brand and to ensure that, you know, we're not just a bunch of podcasts on the iTunes list. We're more than that. And they have that reputation so far. Phil, can I ask a question? When you go to the Humble and Fred website, is it very easy to listen to the intern show, for example? Do you just press a button and then you hear it?

Or do I have to download it and then listen to it? This is how Fred gets giddy about this. He's like, you just go on the site. You find the menu, the channel selector, as you call it, and you could select whatever show you need to go to. And then it just plays? Well, it would take you to that specific page and you just press the play button. Rosie, you'd figure it out.

Have you even tried? Well, I have to say there is something to that that is quite user-friendly because if you're eliminating that step of having to download the MP3 or the iTunes, that is pretty convenient. If memory serves me right, seven years ago,

the only way you could subscribe to a podcast is if you found out what the XML address is and try to find an aggregator. You mean pre-iTunes. Oh, yeah, pre-iTunes. That was a long time ago. Yeah, you had to have some kind of an RSS aggregator, some kind of an XML reader that could parse it. Right, and most of our listeners now don't know what an aggregator is. They just know that you can find an application or an app or a website and they just download it that way. So do most people listen to the

Humble and Fred podcast from the Humble and Fred website or do they listen to it from iTunes? I asked that like 10 minutes ago. Do you know that exact question? How do people access the audio? Through HumbleandFred.com? Do they subscribe in iTunes? Do they do it on their Android device? Coincidental searching is way... Well, let's just say this. Most of the numbers that are coming in, the numbers that are being crunches from that sign right there, is the fact that the HumbleAndFredRadio.com logo is just about everywhere, including my business card. So people will know from either word of mouth or from that billboard on the garden or from IDs on Rogers stations

because sometimes we're a sponsor on 680 News. And they would know. Come to HumbleAnd Fred Radio dot com. And I think it was something about they think the Internet will make them funnier or something like that. But it's the fact that you can take that brand name and then attach yourself to it. It's really a great value proposition. Why am I even selling Humble and Fred Radio dot com to you guys?

Come on. You're in the Humble and Fred studio. I'm just wondering what happens when I join the network. Does anything change? I just don't think anything actually changes, except maybe I'll play a stinger and maybe they'll mention me. What you're wanting to know is, you're wanting to know, are more people going to listen to you?

Well, like, I just, I'm just curious. I mean, I'm going to talk to Humble and Fred about it. And I have, like I said, I'm fans. I'd be happy to be part of the network. I just wondered how that went. I mean, you're right. Right. You're in the studio.

I mean, it's- All right. No more, because they hated my stupid entry about Humble and Fred. They're going to hate this podcast. What did they hate? They hated that I advertised podcasts on my blog. Oh, haters going to hate. I mean...

Rosie. But they hated that you advertised their podcast or your own podcast? The two I advertised. Rosie. Rosie. You... Were you ever an intern? Yes.

Oh, my gosh. See, I've never been an intern. Well, you didn't work in media. Media people are always interns. Is that how it intern? Yes. Oh, my gosh. See, I've never been an intern. Well, you didn't work in media. Media people are always interns. Is that how it works? Absolutely. When you go to radio and TV school, whether you go to Seneca or Humber or Ryerson or anywhere, after you're done or while you're still doing your program, part of it is interning somewhere,

whether it's on TV or radio. It's part of it. I absolutely interned. I interned on, um, I interned at TSN, I interned at CBC, I interned on the Life Network and all that experience. Um, yeah, it leads you to, leads you to a job. Do you have any like funny intern stories you could share? Oh my God, Mike, I have so, I actually have so many funny intern stories. Some are funny. Some are sort of sad. Tell me the sad one. No, I won't tell you the sad one. I'll tell you the sort of crazy one.

As you know, Phil, when you work in broadcasting, there's a lot of colorful personalities. Oh, yes. Wacky characters. Wacky characters. And one that particularly sticks out is when I was in my last year at Ryerson, I interned on Gemini Awards production at the CBC. Wow. And, yeah, it was an amazing experience. You really do get, you know, great experience doing it.

You work hard, though, as you know. Definitely. And you work late and you work early. But one of the producers, she was quite a senior producer for the Gemini Awards. She, you know, we worked hard all day, and it was getting close to air time. And she realized that while she had her outfit for the evening, she didn't have, she wasn't pleased with her accessories. She felt that, you know, her necklace was okay, but she didn't have the right earrings. but she didn't have the right earrings.

So she sent one of the other interns, who had been working quite hard, running papers around and photocopying. She said to her, could you go to the Eaton Centre and buy me a pair of earrings? Which is a pretty challenging task to buy someone else an accessory. So this girl, God love her, she goes to the Eaton incentive, does her best.

And she didn't really give her much input as to the style she might like or anything. So she goes, she buys a pair of earrings, comes back. Oh, I can't wear these. I don't like these. And looking back on it, it was so crazy, like such crazy behavior. And I don't think in any other industry you really get away with acting like that. But somehow we accept it in television. So this poor

girl, her face was just, you know, because you want to please, right? You're there to do well. She's like, no, I can't wear these. There's a store in Yorkville. The store is gone now. I actually remember the store. There's a store in Yorkville that has really good earrings that'll go can you go there? So this poor thing who I don't even think I think she

was from Sarnia I don't even actually think she knew the city so she goes back out she did well she you know she got herself to Yorkville all the way back with another pair of earrings and she doesn't like them she does not like them and I'm mortified for this girl so I had these big silver hoops on and like you're wearing today. Exactly. I think they were even more J-Lo. They were big. She says so I said to her

take my earrings. I'm trying to spare this girl. They're simple. Okay. Alright. I'll take your earrings. It was mad. So she takes my earrings. Wears them the the entire night and that's how i met your mother and then at the end of the night you know i was time to go and i wanted sorry i banged the table i wanted my earrings back because you know what i was like 22 and i'd spent money on those earrings and i i i wanted them back and i went up to her and I'm like, can I get my earrings back? She's like,

what earrings? What are you talking about? Wait, was this lady famous? I was multitasking for half an hour. Yeah, you weren't listening. She wasn't famous. She's not Jeannie Becker. She was senior.

No, no. You wouldn't even know her name or even remember her name because she was senior but behind the scenes, right? But you still have to look nice for the production. Pamela Wallen.

Rosie, do you know i won a gemini award anyways i got my i got my you got your earrings back do you know i won a gemini award you have to search my uh you have to search toronto mic.com for gemini i have seen this picture on your website of you holding a gemini award it's extremely it's a it's it's impressive thank you i don't want to allow i don't want to what was this the best did you win it for i think it was best uh local based blog on the movable type platform 2003 so can i nominate my toronto scoop for yeah but i think i'd get the award why it's my platform it's but i i read all the content rosie i'm going to play something for you and I just want your honest

opinion whether you like it or not we'll let it simmer for a minute here you don't have to judge it in the first six bars you would love a song pop by now you'd have to get it in like one second this is you would love a song pop by now you'd have to get it in like one second it's not my thing it's your thing it's definitely my yeah i friggin love this album this is uh

It's definitely my thing. I friggin' love this album. This is Outshined by Soundgarden. And that's from Bad Motor Finger, which I adored. Babe, you gotta find Wixen and Tarek. Did you like this, Phil? My fiancé walked in. Well, I used to listen to Linkin Park a lot.

Okay, that's not the same thing. Well, it's a rock. Yeah, I hear you. That's close. So you didn't love that Soundgarden song? No, I didn't dislike it. It's just that type that's not really my thing, that's all. Oh, I love it. Okay, so I was thinking, in my opinion,

Chris Cornell has the greatest vocals in rock. This is just one man's opinion who's listened to a lot of music and loves Soundgarden, but I to a lot of music uh and loves sound garden but i love a lot of bands more than i love sound garden i think chris cornell is the best vocalist in rock music uh what do you think about that crazy statement i just made well i i that's not what i would expect yeah you to say but um i'm full of surprises this is what episode 15 wait till we get to 30 Like you won't know What's coming next

30 These are I was thinking Episodes 14 and 15 Are We would Like on Friends This is the episode

Where Ross buys a dog Or something The one where Ross Buys a dog These are Mike figures out How to talk At the same time

As he pulls levers And presses buttons You have to just do it Just practice The more you do it The more Absolutely So if you're okay Can we record five more podcasts after this i'm kidding okay you know i didn't really like i i didn't really love friends i'm just i didn't love

friends either i just thought you would relate to it as a female it's a female seinfeld so i just thought i know i cannot even believe you just said that i don't even know what to do with that well i never watched friends I didn't love Friends. That is so insulting. First of all, Friends is nothing. Girls liked Friends. Guys liked Seinfeld. What did I say, Rose?

I'm a guy. I liked Frasier. Smart people like Frasier. Smart people like Frasier. I loved Frasier. Frasier was too smart for Rosie. Honestly, I... I'm sorry, Rosie.

You liked Seinfeld. Okay. I loved Seinfeld, but I didn't like Friends. All right, I'm sorry for the Friends reference, but... Well, just to say it's a girls' show and the guys' show is Seinfeld, I'm surprised you Rosie. You like Seinfeld. I love Seinfeld. I'm sorry for the friends reference. Just to say it's a girl's show and the guy's show is Seinfeld. I'm surprised you would say that. I'm sorry. As long as we don't say it in a Chinese accent, I think we're okay.

Fair enough. Female school. Inappropriate, Phil. Funny. Inappropriate. Maybe a little funny, but inappropriate. I'm going to ask a question. I wanted to have a full episode about this later.

I'm just going to spend two minutes on this because I've got a meeting I've got to jump into. Like an important person. I'm going to put on Phil's tie and go into a meeting in a minute. Phil, why do you wear a tie? What's going on? Well, today I wore a tie just for you, Rosie. Ties are trendy. It looks great. This is part of my identity because if my family had any sort of tartan pattern, it's blue and white because it comes from the Nationalist Party of China.

Now some really nice lecturing about that. I thought you were Scottish. Oh, no. It's just my family was one of the contributing families who spent most of their savings to overthrow the emperor in China. And you hear about all these war stories and everything. But, yeah, my family's political party is blue and white. So I think that's really cool. My hockey team is blue and white.

So that pattern is inspired by your family's heritage. Yeah, blue is as vast as the sky. Now we know why we wear the tie. Yeah, I think that's neat because my husband's family has a tartan, a Scottish background. I think that's such a cool thing um my um my husband's family has a tartan it's a scottish background i i think that's such a cool thing when we traveled to scotland there were actually stores that would sell you know the different family tartans i just think it's a neat thing to have that that history it's like those families well it's like those um companies who sell coat of arms of

families like if you're suddenly the mclarens, then they really know where that came from. Yeah, it's cool. It's very cool. Very cool. Very cool, everybody. That tie. I just was curious why I noticed Phil was wearing a tie. Oh, but ties are very, like they're trending.

All right, I don't wear a tie. They're trending right now. I thought maybe Phil just got married or something. Well, if I got married, I'd be in a better outfit than this. Phil, look him in the eyes, you handsome man. Do you believe in God? Mike, I believe in a higher being, but I just don't know what. It's not my job to answer it.

Pascal's wager. Listen to this. My family went to the same church as Stephen Harper's nomination. They are evangelical Protestants. But at the same time uh stephen harper well i'm actually completely against stephen harper because he was against my existence in this country because during the vietnam war when everyone when when refugees came to canada he was a member of the citizens group that was completely against is this going to be 20 minutes

i oh no that's that's exactly where i'm finishing because that's you know it's a very it's interesting because we go to the same church excuse me as a guy who thinks we shouldn't be here we should definitely get into that in episode 16 i'm gonna introduce i think i found a loophole for believers who want to go to heaven i i've been working on this uh another shower idea i'm really smart in the shower. Like if I just lived in the shower, I'd be a genius. I'd solve like lots of problems. So I'm going to introduce this in episode 16. I won't even go there now because I got to get into something here.

So I will, everybody stay tuned for the next fantastic episode when I'm going to tell you the loophole and how you could get into heaven if you believed in heaven, which I don't. But I'm just helping the people I care about. That's very kind of you. I look forward to that. Phil, thank you so much for hanging out with us. Thank you so much, Rosie.

It was so great. I hope you come back again. Thank you so much, Mike and Howard and Fred. Hey, don't tell Fred. Don't tell Humble I sat in his seat. He gets very possessive of it. Does he expect you to stand and then speak into the mic that way? I think he wants me to bring my own chair. Fred, don't tell Humble I sat in his seat. He gets very possessive of it. Does he expect you to stand and then speak into the mic that way?

I think he wants me to bring my own chair. Thanks for listening, everyone. Thanks for spending time with us. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys.