Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toronto Mike'd #21

Episode Date: January 18, 2013

Rosie and Mike are back in a new studio but with the same charm. They talk about recent losses, Girls, lies from Lance, Manti Te'o, the new NHL season and take a trip down memory lane with Chris Sheppard.

When the soul of the city was laid to rest And the night's forgotten and left for dead oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh I have another house

built of living light where everything evil disappears and dies Built of living light Where everything evil Disappears and dies Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh When they love you and they will Tell them all There'll love in my shadow

And if they try to slow you down Tell them all to go to hell When they love you and they will Tell them all they'll love in my shadow And if they try to slow you down Tell them all to go to hell Episode 21 begins now. Happy New Year, Rose. happy new year rose hello my friend we're back we're back and better than ever that's what the critics are saying early reviews are in things are a little different in 2013

yeah things are radically different from our vantage point. We should tell everybody that we're recording this live from the new studio in an undisclosed location in Etobicoke. West Toronto. West, yeah, sorry. Keep it vague. West Toronto. That could be Queen Street. It could be Parkdale. Well, the new studio is awesome. Looks good. Sounds good. I'm pretty impressed. So just to bring people up to speed, we found a radio consultant. We found an audio expert who was a guest on a previous episode or two of Toronto Mic'd.

Andrew Stokely. You guys probably remember him. We had him on, I think it was about 10 podcasts ago. And he's one of the foremost audio professionals, I would say, in the country. He's amazing. Rose, your voice sounds amazing. It's as if there's no chemicals interfering with your vocal delivery.

I'm breathing deeply. Nothing noxious. It's feeling pretty good. You've never sounded better. This is the quality equipment that Andrew made me buy. And he said it was all about the microphones. So we actually got killer mics, I'm told. I'm not in the business, but I'm told these Procasters are pretty sweet.

Everything looks awesome. He advised you so well. I mean, I'm told. I'm not in the business, but I'm told these Procasters are pretty sweet. Everything looks awesome. He advised you so well. I mean, I'm not surprised at all. Everything looks and sounds amazing. And he drove from... Where is he? Where is he? Niagara?

I think he's in the Niagara Falls area. He's in a winery. He made the long drive to help set everything up. He said he had to do it now or never because when the NHL lockout ended, he said he was going to be crazy on the road working. And he's gone forever now, I think, until the Stanley Cup is handed out.

For sure. I mean, you know, Andrew's awesome, so he always has work on other events like curling and so on. But, you know, the main bread and butter for any professional working in sports broadcasting is going to be... CFL's huge, too. Oh, yeah. Do the audio guys make more than the players? No, I don't think anyone makes more than the players.

Maybe Brian. Who's the guy, Brian? No one makes more than the players? Brian Williams. Brian Williams. Maybe he makes more. Did you know... You the guy, Brian? No one makes more than the players? Brian Williams. Brian Williams makes more. Did you know, you watch Girls, okay? You know that girl, the pretty girl in Girls is the daughter of the other Brian Williams?

Yeah, that's so last season. I so didn't know that. Haven't you heard of girls' pittism? I saw him on Strombo. I was watching Strombolopolis and she's on and her dad, the American Brian Williams. American Brian Williams. I had no idea.

Well, there was a bit of kerfuffle, a Canadian word Williams. I had no idea. Well, there was a bit of kerfuffle, a Canadian word apparently, I had no idea, last season that all the girls from Girls were in some way had famous parents. Alison Williams, her father was Brian Williams. Zsa Zsa Mamet, of course, daughter of David Mamet. I did not know that. Yeah, that was a big one.

you know, daughter of David Mamet. I did not know that. Yeah, that was a big one. Lena Dunham, her parents are artists of some kind. I'm not really sure what. And then the other one, Jessa, who I love. Love Jessa. Her dad... Paul McCartney.

No, he was a drummer, though, in some rock band. I can't remember who. Pete Best. Anyways, the point is that the way I see it, who cares? They're awesome. No, I don't care. Lena, did you watch the first episode of season two?

I've actually already watched it four times. I saw it once. So good, so good, so good. Lena Dunham gets naked again? Is this just going to happen every episode now? It's going to happen every episode and I thought it was hysterical in the Golden Globes. I didn't watch the Golden Globes

because I actually hate award shows, but I did because I love her and I love Tina Fey and Amy Po Globes. I didn't watch the Golden Globes because I actually hate award shows, but I did because I love her and I love Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. I watched bits of it and I thought it was hysterical because they were big fans of hers and they kind of said to her in the audience, they're like,

is HBO forcing you to do all that nudity? If they are, just wink, make a sign, anything. We'll call child services. No, she loves it. She's all about the nudity. She's all about just things that are real. I love, I read one thing once I thought that was so neat. She said that, which it's important to her when she has sex scenes

in her show, is that it doesn't just magically go in. Oh, the chemicals. Where is the chemical plant, Rose? No, it's just I'm talking too much. It doesn't just magically go in. Oh, the chemicals. Where is the chemical plant, Rose? No, it's just I'm talking too much. It doesn't just magically go in. We know what I'm talking about, right? It's not forced, you mean?

It's not organic? Well, it's just you see it all. You see it all. Oh, I see. You see. No, no, because I will point out in that first episode of season two, Brian Williams' daughter has a sex scene and you don't see nipple. No.

The hair, they're so carefully choreographing that scene. It's like the hair drops down at the perfect time. You don't see any nudity. Nothing you wouldn't see at a beach.

Well, I think she just, I actually just think she put her arms over her boobs. No, I think she has a no nude clause. Well, I think she, it's true. I don't think she wants to be,

to be naked. It's her dad, right? He doesn't want her. I don't know. I don't know. She's pretty, okay, maybe she's not naked, but she's pretty, I don't think she wants to be naked. It's her dad, right? He doesn't want her naked. I don't know. I don't know. She's pretty, okay, maybe she's not naked, but she's pretty, I'm pretty positive my dad wouldn't want to see me doing any of the stuff she does, even without her showing any boob or nipple or whatever.

Okay. Have you ever done any nude scenes on the Weather Network? Have you ever tried out for the naked news? No, just, you know, a few, you know, sometimes the top slides down a bit, but no. Wardrobe malfunction. The Weather Network is pretty G-rated. Okay, sorry. That was quite the girl segue, but you mentioned Brian Williams, and that was it.

Okay, so this new home studio, which is a professional quality. Hopefully people think we sound decent. I think we shouldn't have said anything. I don't think anyone would have noticed the difference. It's too late now, Big Mouth. Too late. It was on my sheet I brought with my notes. I had to mention it, but my daughter started a podcast.

She's eight years old, and she takes her own notes, and she drives the content, and she's very excited to record once a week. Monica is her co-host, my fiancé, and I get to produce. And it's called She's So Young. Adorable. And actually, they have a theme song that they use from a Toronto band we know and love. How do I...

And if I could figure out how to produce. So this is their theme song, The Pursuit of Happiness, She's So Young. And she quite likes this song. She didn't know about it. It's like from 1989. And I introduced her to it and she loves it. So She's So Young.

So how can we hear it? Is it on your site? Well, I haven't really promoted it on my site yet, but it is on iTunes, believe it or not. So, She's So Young is on iTunes and I think I dropped a link to it in an entry I wrote about this new studio. Perfect.

Because we did one and it was like learning how to use this stuff and then I was going to wait to have a couple of polished ones under our belt before I promoted it. But she, I mean, she's eight and it's like really good for her because it makes her plan stuff and it helps her learn to talk. Like nobody taught me how to talk and she can express herself verbally and it's just all around. Like we get to do it together. Which is fun.

And it's just a good experience all around. That's awesome. And, you know, exactly, putting together a show every week, it takes preparation and planning, and it's fun. It's just lots of fun. My brother Ryan wants to start a fantasy sports podcast. He's calling Fantasy sports hotline, or I can't remember what the third word is.

Fantasy sports hot... I saw something. I got to find out. There's a lot of fantasy sports hockey business going on in my house right now. He's going to focus on baseball. So he's going to launch just as the pitchers and catchers report,

and then do sort of a lot of baseball. Rose, do you mind if I get serious for a moment? I don't do this too often, and I'd like to do it right now if that's okay with you. All right. I need to be serious for a moment. How do I say goodbye? Say goodbye So it's only about halfway through January 2013 And I've had a rough start to the year

Last week my ex had to put our dog down Our 17 year old dog So I can tell you without a lie that my dog just died. I'm so sorry. I was pretty sad to say goodbye to her. Yeah, it sucks. And then I got some perspective, because, yes, you lose a 17-year-old dog,

and then you lose a 31-year-old friend who passed away very suddenly this week in Peru. It turns out he had meningitis, but he didn't know it at the time. How awful. I am so sorry. I actually saw that on your site. And, oh, his poor family. My God, so young.

Well, I wrote that. The way I deal with everything that hits me in the feels, anything that kind of stirs up emotion as I write about it, like I've been doing that since I was nine years old. I just went through old crates and I've got different iterations of the blog before there was an internet. So I write about it.

So I wrote about Daniel, just a little something about Daniel and I posted our, he was on my dodgeball team. He was my go-to server-side developer for all the many web projects I've managed the last five, since 07, I guess,

five years. And it started to become like a place where friends and family of Daniel would go to leave their comments. So this morning I woke up and there was a fresh comment from his mom. And honestly, that hit me right back in the feels. His mom wrote something? His mom wrote a very eloquent remembrance of Daniel on this entry. So I just want to say Daniel Torablanca was a great guy, and I'm glad I got to know him. He always had a smile on his face, and he was smart and helpful. And we had just had a really good chat at Christmastime because I had a lead on a gig for him through Monica's work. And he was supposed

to send his resume before he went to Peru. And then just the day before I got the bad news, I was asking Monica, like, did you get the resume? And I was going to follow up with him. And then I got the call from Jordy that he had passed away. And I couldn't believe it. These 31-year-old healthy guys are not supposed to die. No, meningitis is frightening. The only other person I know that passed away, a young healthy man, had an aneurysm. And things like that you don't see coming. No, it's very sad. Otherwise, healthy people, it's awful.

It is awful. It is awful. It's nice that you were able to provide on your site a place for people to remember him. I think that for his mom to write something, obviously she saw it as a place where people were going to mourn him. So I think that's pretty cool. It's funny because when you post it,

you think you're kind of self-serving, like you're doing it for yourself and you feel therapeutic to do it. And then you don't realize until a little later that what you wrote is being read by the mom and the cousins. His family. And then you realize like... People that love him. Then you reread it to make sure you weren't snarky or...

You weren't a jerk. You weren't a jerk. You weren't an a-hole. Yeah, I got to lose that reputation. Yeah, anyway, it was... I'm sorry that we lost Daniel far too soon. So he passed away in Peru? Yeah, Peru.

And they cremated him in Peru. So we're going to have a little something. His birthday is coming up. So we're going to get together and celebrate his life, like his friends here in Toronto. All right. So now that that's the serious portion of the podcast, hopefully the rest of 2013 isn't as sad.

No one dies. That will be the goal. You know, my grandmother has the flu and she's like 97. And they're watching her very closely. Well, absolutely. Yeah, you don't mess around at that age. So that's not a segue into the flu shot discussion. I'm done with it.

I'm done with it. It's sort of like I can't convince you guys that it's a good idea to get the flu shot, so I give up. I will get it and my kids will get it. All right, so that's something that we haven't been able to talk about since we launched Toronto Mic'd.

I didn't want to talk about the lockout, but Saturday night, we will not be hearing this theme song because TSN owns it. And I don't mind the new one, but I prefer this one, so this is my go-to soundbite. I have to agree.

I actually like the TSN one, but that one that you play, I mean, that's hockey, right? Well, this is the TSN one. They just do different versions, but that's the TSN one now. The new one they did for CBC, it's not bad. It's got fanfare to it or whatever, but it's not that one. It's the TSN one. They just do different versions, but that's the TSN one now. The new one they did for CBC, it's not bad.

It's got fanfare to it or whatever, but it's not that one. It's not that. Like that one is... Because we grew up with Bob Cole and Harry Neal and all that. Yeah, that's mine. But Rose, are you excited?

Is anyone excited in your household? I was excited because Scott told me last night that Ponekarovsky and Antropov are reunited at the Winnipeg Jets. So you're going to be a Jets fan this year? I kind of, I have to admit, I'm excited for Winnipeg because, you know, they get this team and then they don't even really get to enjoy them for very long because of the lockout. And it's actually funny, you know, talking about Andrew and broadcasting professionals.

A lot of the, when I used to work in sports broadcasting, about Andrew and broadcasting professionals, a lot of the, when I used to work in sports broadcasting, a lot of the cameramen that I used to hire came to Toronto looking for work after, you know, they lost their teams in Winnipeg. A lot of them, some of the best guys were from, you know, were from Winnipeg. So, you know, it really goes to show you how when a team, a city loses a team, when a team goes on strike, how it affects people's lives that do this to make money. So I have sort of a warm spot for Winnipeg. That's the only warm thing in Winnipeg, is that right? Well, you know, my mom's family is from Thunder Bay,

and it's cold. It's cold. Not that they're close together, but it's sort of on the way. Rose, I'm so glad you said that, because today in Toronto... It's cold. Not that they're close together, but it's sort of on the way. Rose, I'm so glad you said that because today in Toronto... It's cold outside. It does not matter how cold it gets in Toronto. If I'm talking to my grandpa in Thunder Bay, he will say, Oh, you city folk, I'm wearing my undershirt.

It's not that cold. He thinks we're wimps. Well, it feels like minus 18. It's cold. If that's wimpy, then so be it. So the Leafs don't look particularly, they don't look any better than last season. Well, TSN said that projected them to be 13th. So we're already not in the playoffs and we haven't even started yet. Well, there's only 48 games. So because there's only 48 games, last season, if I recall,

we started strong and we looked great at Christmas. And then the wheels fell off and then it was disaster. So theoretically, if we can write, can we play our first 48 games this season like we played them last season? We could slip into a playoff spot and we could we could all have parades downtown. It would be it would be amazing. I am excited for it. You know, there's something about Saturday night that you watch, you know, you watch hockey. I was hearing about how some of the other markets, you know, in Ottawa, they were doing a lot of stuff to get the fans excited, you know, again, to show, you know, appreciation for the fact, you know, so free parking, you know, a dollar hot dogs, things like that. I do think I was curious to see what Toronto was going to do because, you know, obviously MLSC gets quite, you know, a bad rap for not appreciating their fans.

And I think they are doing something. I think there's some free. I can tell you what they're doing. Okay. So it turns out after you, after the season tickets are gobbled up. Okay. There is only a thousand seats left in the Air Canada Centre. All right.

So they're going to give away this thousand seats for the first home game on Monday. What? Really? Well, yeah. So they're going to, I believe you are to walk around the city in a leaf jersey

or leaf paraphernalia and they will hand you a ticket. I have a leaf jersey. Well, put it on and walk around the city. You might attract some attention. Whoa. And my little guy has one too.

Then you could both get a ticket. Okay. Maybe you have some inside one too. Then you could both get a ticket. Okay. Maybe you have some inside sources that could tell you where to be because this is a big city. I don't know. I don't know if they're going to make their way to Etobicoke or West Toronto.

You might have... Stop hitting my new Procaster microphones, Rose. I move around a lot. You know how expensive they were? They're amazing. I financed this myself, Rose. By the way,

where's your donation to the Toronto Mic Studio? Who brought coffee this morning? I agree. That is all I ask is bring a coffee when you come to record. I move around a lot, though, and I did just hit Mike's Procaster with my ear. So we agree. The Leafs, we're excited about the hockey being back.

I'm going to watch Saturday night. I'm excited, too. I'm wearing my Optimist Rhyme t-shirt right now because I believe you wanted to talk about our goaltending situation because, Rose, during this lockout, I heard some so-called pundits tell me that the Luongo to Toronto deal was done and they'll announce it once the lockout is over. But the Luongo to Toronto deal never happened. There is no Roberto Luongo in Toronto. No, and I saw his coach, the Canucks coach, saying he's fired to get a player for that to happen.

So it doesn't really seem... Well, he's a very good backup. But when that... So when all that was happening, I said to Scott, because I'd kind of forgotten about the players, and I was like, so who's our goalie? Like, we have Reimer, and then the Scribbles guy. Scribbins.

Sorry, Scribbins. He's the Marlies guy. Actually, Scribbins. Scribben. Sorry, Scribben. He's the Marlies guy. Actually, Scribben's is a good goalie too. They're both young. And I just got him like, so who's our goalie? And he said,

well, yeah, that's what we got. That's it. And it just didn't seem like enough to me. And then I read an article that Reimer isn't really looking good

and so Scribben's should start. So who's going to start? Here's the deal. I'm freaking out. We've all seen Scribben's all season because he's been playing for the Marlies. Although they have a few goalies there, but he plays a lot of games for the Marlies. So I've been watching Marlies games because of my leaf drought. And I've seen Scrivens play, and he seems to play well at the Ricoh Coliseum.

But it's very different. Yeah, you're facing AHL. Although better than usual AHL because of the lockout, but it's still lower caliber. Meanwhile, Reimer has been working out on his own, so we really haven't seen Reimer in a game. And he hasn't played any professional hockey during the lockout. No, I don't believe he did. I don't believe he did. Well, I think he's in big trouble. But he's still, in my opinion, he still gets the start on Saturday night.

Like, two seasons ago, Reimer played very well. It was the second half of the season after Jaguar got injured or whatnot. But Reimer had a great season two seasons ago. And then last season he had this injury and when he didn't rebound from his neck concussion, neck injury. Right. And he did not fare as well last season. He was messed up. Messed up. But if we get the Reimer from two seasons ago, he should grab the number one spot. Or we could just platoon these guys and play who's hot. You know, if one of these guys gets hot, we could go on a run and sneak into a playoff

spot. I don't know, Rose. We didn't get Luongo. This is what we have is Reimer and Scrivens. We're going with these guys because that's our guys right now. I just, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't feel like enough. I mean, it's all we have.

Time will tell, Rose. It doesn't feel... I will predict an opening night victory in Montreal. I'm calling it. We are going to win against the Habs on Saturday night. It would be amazing if we won. I just think it would be such a nice way to start the season, albeit shortened.

So, Rose, this is the first time I've seen you in 2013. Yes, it is. So I should have said Happy New Year or does that expire at some point? It's expired. So it's too late. I feel up to, you know, first week of January. Some people go to January 15. You think that's too late.

To me, it's when I take down my Christmas tree. When do you do that? I'm done. when I take down my Christmas tree I'm done. I take it down actually I take it down this year I took it down January 1st I really wanted things Get it out of there? I felt like everything was a mess

so I took it down January 1st, got it organized so I guess but normally I would stop I would take it down that first weekend after the New Year. And then after Christmas. And then, yeah, and then I'm done saying Happy New Year. So I was at your house on December 27th. I did give you my address, yes.

It was a lovely evening. The whole family was there and I quite enjoyed myself. Oh, good. Well, yeah, every year since we've had Nicholas, we've had... But I've never been invited before. So, Rose, thanks for telling me that. It's like the third time. I was going to say, Nicholas is only two, so you haven't really missed...

I missed at least one. You missed one. You did. Okay, so this is December 27. Yes, we have a little post-Christmas party for the kids, really, just a little get-together. It's hard to... You know, you get so busy, it's hard to see everybody. And I find doing it after Christmas is a lot less stressful

because everyone's so busy. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, we do. But I had an issue with something. The Christmas music, in my opinion, and you're the host, who am I to say what a host should play at their party? It's the host's call.

But here comes Santa Claus, whatever the Christmas tunes I'm hearing on the 27th, in my opinion, it's too late. Well, here's the thing. Actually, when we have parties, Scott is in charge of the music. So this is Scott. He just passed the buck. And he, unfortunately, this year, normally he has a nice sort of Christmas audio track

that's perhaps not as, you know, intense of Christmas music. But he couldn't find it because we organized everything. So yeah, you can't really, don't be too hard on him for the music this year. Also, if Scott's listening,

dude, come on. If I come to your party on the 27th, I can't be hearing about Santa. Like, I just can't do it anymore. Well, and the thing is is that it's a post-Christmas party. Fine.

So you can, you know, you're still feeling that. There's like, my Christmas tree, if my Christmas tree is still up, then I can still play Christmas music. Fair enough. you can, you know, you're still feeling that. There's like... My Christmas tree, if my Christmas tree is still up, then I can still play Christmas music. Fair enough.

But I think you could find a hundred versions of What Are You Doing New Year's Eve and just play them on a continuous loop and then we'd be fine. Well, again... Or maybe it's cold outside.

We couldn't find... See, that was the thing. We have a CD that has music like that. Winter music? Yeah, more winter as opposed to Christmas. But we couldn't find it.

I actually found it the day after New Year's Eve. I think this is the CD you were looking for. Speaking of Christmas, so one of the gifts I got my mom for Christmas was a pedometer that she wanted because she wants to count her steps because somebody told her

she should do X number of steps a day. All right. And she wanted a good pedometer, okay? So on Christmas, I ordered this thing. Monica found one that got good reviews and i got her this top-notch pedometer so it's like a gps for your no for your body no i don't know it measures your walks like somehow it you put it in your oh my dad had one of these when he was when he had heart issue when he was watching his heart sorry yeah i don't know i always feel like

it's like an old person thing maybe but i don't want to i just told my mom to do it by like distance or time or something like counting steps i don't know so my mom uh phones me like boxing day really i guess it snowed on boxing day or the day maybe it was the day after i don't know 26 or 27 i get a phone call a frantic phone call from my mom mike i feel sick and i thought thought, oh, grandma passed or whatever. Somebody died. I was like, I was thinking who died. I was so, I'm serious. If I get a call at an off time and she has that voice, something's wrong. She frightened, not frightened me, but I was calm, but I was ready to hear bad news. And she said, I went out to shovel the snow and I lost

my pedometer. So I guess she went out to shovel snow and it was precariously attached to her body and she lost it in the snow. Oh, I loved it. It worked at midnight. It resets itself. So every day, and she was telling me that she had one midnight with it

and it was working perfect and she loved it and it was gone. And I said... It was still so new. Oh, I remember now. She asked me what it cost, I guess. Before she said she felt sick. That's right.

She's telling me this bad news, and she goes, what did it cost? And I said, oh, like 50 bucks. Oh, Mike, I feel sick. Like this had crossed some threshold. Like if it was five bucks, she wouldn't have cared too much. But if this is $50 she lost, now she feels physically ill. Well, I mean, it's, you know, I think to parents, any money that their child spends.

I told her though. I go, mom. I go, mom. I said 50, not 50,000. 50 bucks. Here, wipe your nose of this new polymer $50 bill. I find the new bills, I find them crazy.

I find them crazy. They do not feel like real money. Rose, I have so little contact of cash. I don't know if, I find them crazy. I find them crazy. They do not feel like real money. Rose, I have so little contact of cash. I don't know if I've had one yet. Like, I don't touch cash. Well, I sometimes will. And I had some 20s. I got some new 20s.

And they felt crazy. They felt so thin and not real. And you could see through them. Do they stick together? Somebody told me they stick together. I didn't notice that they... I didn't have so many. So you gave a guy like 20 bucks and you really see through them. Do they stick together? Somebody told me they stick together. I didn't know this. I didn't have so many. So you give a guy like 20 bucks and you really gave him like 80 bucks.

No, I just found that, you know what, it just felt, it didn't feel real. It felt like fake money. That's, I think, what I found so strange about it. And then I read an article

that in high temperatures they will melt and stick together. Really high though. You got to leave it in like a car in like a 45 degree day. But I can see that happening, right? Well, don't do that, Rose.

Keep it in the wallet. I don't have that much cash that I'm leaving it in the car. Don't leave money like that in a car anyways. Guys will smash the window for that stuff if they can smell it. Please, don't smash it for far less. No, definitely. Don't put your toonies on display. But your mom's pedometer.

So are you going to get her another one? No, she found it. put your toonies on display. But your mom's pedometer. So did you, are you going to get her another one? No, she found it. That's a happy ending. So when the snow melted, because we had that 12 degree day that we should be grateful for last weekend, my brother Steve found it for her and it still works. That's amazing. That's how good this pedometer is. 50 bucks well spent.

So she's happy now. Thank you. Rose, you told me, I had another experience I wanted to share. I was at Harvey's with my son before his hockey practice on Monday night. And he got a kid's cheeseburger combo and he wanted a Dr. Pepper. I'm like, whatever, we're going to hockey.

Go have a Dr. Pepper. See, Harvey's has Dr. Pepper at school. They do, yeah. And this was at Kiel and St. Clair. And I just took a swig. I was thirsty. I took a bit. It was horrible, yeah. And this is at Kiel and St. Clair. And I just took a swig. Like I was thirsty. I took a bit.

It was horrible, Rose. I've never, I realized I've never had a Dr. Pepper and I now know why. It's actually, it's like cough medicine. It was the worst flavor I've ever had. I can't believe people voluntarily put this in their body for pleasure. And then you tweeted at me that diet Dr. Pepper is your favorite drink.

That's funny because I happen to be on the interweb when you tweeted, I just had a swig of my son Diet Dr. Pepper is your favorite drink. That's funny because I happened to be on the interweb when you tweeted. I just had a swig of my son's Dr. Pepper and it's so disgusting. And I happened to see that and I actually said out loud, no, Dr. Pepper, it is my favorite. What's good about it? To me, Dr. Pepper is like, see, my very, very favorite soft drink is just regular Coke. I mean, I never drink it because it's obviously so bad for you. Well, it's pure sugar.

That's why you like it. But it's my absolute favorite drink. And then Dr. Pepper, I feel, is like regular Coke with just sort of kind of like a bit of a twist. And it's delicious. Oh my gosh, it's so good. And I like diet.

I'll actually, I'll actually, we'll buy a case of diet. So you like the taste. This is a taste that your taste buds enjoy. Yes, it's so good and i like diet i'll actually always i'll actually will buy a case of diet so you like the taste this is a taste that your taste buds enjoy it's delicious wow okay you know taste is taste very subjective i won't judge your taste i don't like a lot of stuff people love but dr pepper i'm looking right actually i like canada dry like i like ginger ale but i cannot stand cannot stand sprite oh yes I find it gross. I don't like Sprite. I don't like Diet Sprite. I would take a Sprite over a Dr. Pepper.

It's interesting. Taste is definitely a subjective thing. But, oh yes, Dr. Pepper is good. Your son likes it, but you don't. Yeah, he likes it, but he's 10. 10-year-olds like a lot of crap. That's what I think. But anyway, he's happy.

That's my Dr. Pepper story. Now, Rose, did you see any of these new movies and enjoy any of the new movies that are lingering? Because last weekend, I saw Django Unchained and I absolutely loved it.

No, the only one I saw, it's funny, that's going to be an Oscar contender was Argo, which was amazing. I might watch it tonight. I loved it. It was actually the best movie I'd seen in so long. Ben Affleck.

He was so great. He's so good. Third good one in a row. Yep. But no, I probably won't see Django Unchained because I can't really watch violent movies. Are you okay with watching a slave devoured by a dog? No. Would that upset you?

Yeah, it would. Then you might avoid this movie. It's not really the kind of... Fantastic film, though. I loved it so much. It was like Inglourious Bastards for slavery. Which I saw,

and I actually liked it. Well, if you're okay with that, you might like this. I don't know. I find that I have to watch those movies. I watch them with my face on Scott's shoulder.

I feel bad for him because he would, you know, love to see those. Tarantino is my favorite director. Yeah, and I tend to keep us from seeing that stuff. I don't know,

the older I get, the less I can watch difficult things. But a lot of Tarantino's blood is cartoony. Like he's got two styles. Absolutely. So a lot of it's

like the Kill Bill cartoony and you get a lot of that in this one. Which I actually liked Kill Bill. But then he juxtaposes it with the, like I mentioned, the dog scene

and there's certain, he's got a different violence where it hits you. It's different. Like some of it's cartoony and some of it hits you. So I really like his style anyways. And this guy,

Christoph Waltz, who was in Inglourious Bastards, is so fantastic in both of those movies. What an amazing performance. I keep hearing that his performance was amazing. He's amazing. Well, you know. I keep hearing that his performance was amazing.

He's amazing. Well, you know, I deal with a lot of Germans. That's right. Mike's job, his day job, when he's not producing fabulous podcasts, is working. Your company is based out of Germany. I do deal with a lot of Berliners

and people in Hamburg and Munich and stuff. I thought that scene was funny in Girls when the character, her ex-boyfriend, who's gay, who's her new roommate, says the only people left that you can make fun of are bisexuals and Germans. Oh, and he's both. I remember that.

Excellent. There's another movie I saw I quite enjoyed. Zero Dark Thirty. I really want to see that. It was good. It's a bit long, but it was really good. I was interested in how she would tell the story, and I thought it was pretty good.

And the actress in that is pretty solid, Jessica Chastain. Yeah, I saw that she won an award for that. And yeah, that one I definitely want to see. Golden Globes and those awards, they're such circle jerks, right? Like they're really tough to stomach. They're actually unwatchable. It's just a bunch of people,

we are awesome and they celebrate themselves and it's pretty nauseating. I always think I want to watch the awards show because I actually, you know what I don't mind about award shows is sometimes it'll turn me on to something new. For example, I watched a bit of the Golden Globes, saw Don Cheadle, who I love, win for something. And we started watching House of Lies, which is.

Is it good? Oh, my gosh. I'll check it out. It's so good. You would actually, you will love it. He's in Flight, which is another movie I just saw, which I liked. Yeah. And so I like award shows for that.

Yeah. Just, you know, might turn you on to something new. But exactly. You know, you watch it for a bit and it's it's on it's unwatchable i'm like oh it hurts and so i stop and then you know this is the beautiful thing with the internet then afterwards i can watch the funny stuff that that tina fey and well the thing is i find these shows are like these big circle jerks are nauseating but i make them appointment viewing like i was like i I'm watching the Golden Globes on Sunday

and I watched the whole thing. So it's like, I can't look away. It's a car accident on the side of the road. I'll tell you what was a car accident that I had to check out. Tell me. Oprah Winfrey interviewing Lance Armstrong. I avoided it. I followed on Twitter.

You know what? You should watch it. You should watch it. I don't even know where that station would be in my world. I know I can't get it in my bedroom. This is the interesting thing. I have to say,

Oprah's smart because up until last night, I literally had never, ever turned to the Oprah. I had no idea where... Okay, she's smart,

but hasn't that network been around for two years or something? So wouldn't she have done this earlier? Well, better late than never, you know? I guess.

I guess you need the right thing to do, but I have to admit, I never... Don't you think the only show people want to see on done this earlier? Well, better late than never. I guess. I guess you need the right thing to do. But don't you think the only show people want to see on Oprah is Oprah? Well, it's funny you should say that

because I was never an Oprah fan. I never watched the Oprah show. Oprah was not my thing. That being said, I had girlfriends that Mike.

Oh, my ex loved it. Loved it to the point where... Like a religion, right? They would leave work early. If they forgot to tape it because this was the days before the PVR and so on and so forth. If they had forgot to set their VCR to tape Oprah, they would leave work early if they forgot to tape it because this was the days before the PVR

and so on and so forth if they forgot to set their VCR to tape Oprah they would leave work early

obsessed with the Oprah show so she had a loyal following and I feel like she should have yeah don't cancel

your own show because it's the only show we want to see I mean you know it's funny it's a lot of work to do a show

like that she probably you know didn't want to do it anymore but even if you did it once a week or something,

take your show to your network because I never, I had no idea where the Oprah, I had to look for the Oprah channel. It was on channel 72. It wasn't actually that far. Yeah, I won't get it in the bedroom, but I get it here. It wasn't hard to find. But I have to say, she, man,

she knows how to interview someone. And it was compelling. It was compelling. But I don't like him. Like, I never liked him, though. Even when he was winning Tour of the... But that's what makes it... Because I didn't either.

He's so American. I always thought he was incredibly... He had an arrogant streak. He seems like a jerk. Oh yeah, but it's good TV. It really is something...

I'll find it on the interweb. Find it on the interweb and watch it. We were following it a little bit on Twitter as well, but my God, what? I mean,

you know, I'm a cynical person, so I really do feel that if he hadn't got caught, there's absolutely no way he'd be, you know. Please, it's so orchestrated, this whole Oprah apology and come clean. He's trying to save something somewhere. Salvage something. Sure, he's trying to save something somewhere. Salvage something.

Sure, he's trying to salvage something. It's worse than the Golden Globes, Rose. No, but the thing is, and this is the skill, this is what I have to say, Oprah, it doesn't feel as contrived as you would think. It was pretty compelling to watch.

So yeah, give it a go. Do you have an opinion on the other big story this week? The Manti Teo? Are you... The fictional girlfriend story? Oh, you know what? The Notre Dame, you're not following it?

You know what? I actually just heard last night on the news that, yes, she wasn't real. She never existed. She never existed. I don't... Yeah, but I haven't really been following it. I think there's a lot to come out in this one, except that I have it's so compelling at first I rejected the story was all over my Twitter

and I was like oh he made up but then I read a little bit and it's so compelling because he's basically the story is that his grandmother

and his girlfriend died on the same day and he had such a back story on his girlfriend that never existed and then he claims he was tricked so for years he talked about day and he had such a backstory on his girlfriend that never existed. And then he claims he was tricked. So for years, he talked about this girlfriend

he had never met, who never existed. And it turns out there are evidence of him talking about the girlfriend after he went to Notre Dame and said he had been tricked. So he perpetuates the myth because I guess it helps him with his Heisman voting

and his career and everything. Everyone loves a freaking story like that. Absolutely. So I had some people like, maybe he made up the girlfriend because, you know, you're not, there's still no openly gay athletes in the United States in these sports. And maybe they make up a girlfriend so that if they're gay, and I'm not saying he's gay, I don't know him at all. But that would at least know, but that would at least be something I could,

okay, I understand. He was afraid, whatever. Sure. But right now, the story just seems like he sort of just lied because people loved the story and it made him his stockpile.

He's an opportunist. Absolutely. He was using it for his advantage. And how could he not know, right? He says he never knew that she was fake. That doesn't compute. That's a big, fat lie.

I just feel like everybody just lies their face off all the time. Everyone's just lying and lying and lying. Lance Armstrong and Manti Teo are big fat lie. I just feel like everybody just lies their face off all the time. Everyone's just like lying and lying and lying. Lance Armstrong and Miantai Teo are big liars. The only thing that I thought watching the interview last night, listening to him talk about the blood doping and how they did it, you know, part of me is like, my God, I am so tired all the time.

You want to dope? I kind of want, you know, he looks great. He beat cancer. You know, his skin looks fantastic. He's going to run triathlons? Is that what I said? I need a Dr. Fiari to just, I don't even need as much as,

it's not like I have to win a Tour de France. I just need to get through an hour of tickling. Like, it's really. An hour of tickling. Just a little bit of oxygen in my blood.

How bad can it be? Really, come on. I don't want the EPO. I don't want the testosterone. So is there any negative side effects health-wise? No, that's the thing. It doesn't appear to be. So it's not like...

The guy looks fantastic. I'm going to do it as well, Rosie. We're going to report back. I have volleyball season starting on Monday. This is what I mean. No one's going to test... I want to see how it does. No one's going to test us because you know what?

Guess what? We're not athletes, professional athletes. Rosie, how long should our podcast be? We were starting the Toronto Mike podcast at 30 minutes an episode, and then it went to 60 minutes. And I think we talked about bringing it down. I only ask because we're hitting,

it's almost 40 minutes. Well, we should probably wrap it up, especially because I have to go get Nicholas soon. So, Oh my goodness. Okay. Now,

uh, could we close just before we close Chris Shepard we talked about Chris Shepard on a previous episode and I found a clip because there was a CFNY reunion and they had a CD they made for it and I got sent a copy

and they put a clip could I play a little bit of Chris Shepard and then we'll come back yeah I used to love him well then listen to this and enjoy this time machine courtesy of Toronto Mind. It's Saturday night and you're so deaf because you've got your dial tuned to Chris Shepard's Club 102, a radio show that's made just for you.

The pseudo-intellectual, most illinous b-boy fly skimmer type. Yeah! I'm the fish from Hashim on the bonus beats rough trade who uh have been canceled from the imperial room what's the pure the name of that track the grapes of wrath with misunderstanding i'm in a grapes of wrath mood i got my cowboy boots on dismissed big mouth strikes again david bow. I was going to play the new one, but you listen to the spirit. You've already heard the new one a million times. Frank Sinatra, New York, New York.

USA, the name of the cut from The Exploited. We rocked really hard to that. Van Halen, you really got me? Paul, whatever his last name is, you remember I don't say his last name anymore because I called him something really naughty that I'm not supposed to. Boom, boom, let's go back to my room.

Dead or Alive with a live version of You Spin Me Round, or as some people might call it, a dead version of You Spin Me Round. Queen, Another One Bites the Dust, Club 102 style, with the Roland MXR mixer and sequencer and digital effects and Roland 808 drum machine all programmed together to give you another one bites the dust. Run DMC with their latest 12-inch It's Tricky. Shep Pettibone did the remix on that one.

Tastes So Good, the name of the telephone conversation over the drum machine from File 13. And we started it all off with cookie puss the infamous cookie puss x-rated version from the beastie boys on a saturday night kevin key from skinny puppy will be my guest live in the club 102 studios next week be sure to tune in for that the telephone lines are open right now man at 870-7700 is my telephone number. Shepard on the wheels of steel, feeling good if you can't tell. Wow, that was two minutes of Chris Shepard. Loved him.

What an eclectic mix of music they would play. Listen to that playlist. It's all over the place. That had all the retro favorites in there, crammed in there. And he's like, oh, if you're listening to the Spirit, you already heard the David Bowie track. Oh, that's like when this 102.1

was playing David Bowie on regular rotation. That was a long time ago. It's crazy. It's funny hearing him say the Spirit, right? The Spirit. And it's a different time.

The new track from Run DMC, It's Tricky. I remember when It's Tricky came out. Are you crazy? That's crazy. That actually was crazy listening to that.

Oh, yeah. I got lots of that crap. So maybe once in a while, I'm going to throw on some retro stuff. Love it. Well, no arguments here. I'm stuck in the 80s. You know, I never talked about the lowest of the low concert I attended. It was amazing.

I bet. But it was so long ago now. It's no longer true. It's 2013, Mike. 2013. So thanks, everybody. That was episode 21. And we hope you join us for episode 22 next week. Thanks for spending time with us. We'll see you soon. Bye-bye. guitar solo Well, I want to take a streetcar downtown Read Andrew Miller and wander around And drink some Guin goodness from a tin Cause my UI check has just come in

Ah, where you been? Because everything is kind of rosy and green