Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toronto Mike'd #24

Episode Date: February 12, 2013

Rosie and Mike are joined by Anthony from Palma Pasta who has a funny Toronto Mike story to tell.

Welcome to Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything, sometimes with a distinctly Toronto flavour. I'm Mike from torontomic.com. Joining me as always is Rosie from mytorontoscoop.com. And hosting this audio file are the good people at Core Fusion. Hey Rosie, how's it going? It's going good. Hey Mike, hey everybody. Everybody is for reals because we actually have our very first guest in the new studio. I'd like to welcome Anthony from Palma Pasta. Great to be here Mike and Rosie, thank you.

It's great to have you here. It's always fun when you have, I mean, don't get me wrong, it's great just you and me, Toronto Mike, but it's always nice when you have a third person, someone else in the room. Especially when he brings lasagna and other wonderful Italian foods with him. Absolutely good eating tonight. I assure you, though, that even without the delicious food, Anthony is always lovely to have around. Anthony is one of my favorite people in the world. I can honestly say that, but it wasn't always that way,

but I don't want to detract. I think we have story time at Toronto Mic'd. I can't wait for this story. I've been told that it is a story to end all stories. And I must say that, I think it's safe to say that you're judicious in your choosing of friends, people to have in your circle of friends.

I hate almost everybody, Rosie. That's what I was trying to say. So for Anthony to be selected as one of Mike's inner circle must mean he's pretty special. And remember, as you're going to hear in this story, it was a rocky beginning. So to start, usually when when i somebody i start a relationship like that i just hate them till i die but i actually grew to love this guy like he's the

best so that's how special we're gonna make you wait a little bit before we get to the good oh rosie i missed you last week mike rosie i had a rough week i was we had, I had a rough week. We had another guest lined up for Friday, all excited. And then I got the message that you weren't going to be able to make it. I'm sorry. And it wasn't because of the snow. It was just all scheduling stuff. Mike and I's schedule just didn't line up last week. But we're back.

We're good. And I was like, can the people handle a week without a Toronto mic? And I had this moment of, do I like and i was like can the people handle a week without a toronto mic devs and i had this moment of do i like there was riots in the street like do i go on without rosie and then i was like yeah i gotta go on i'll just throw someone else in that chair and i'll call a rosie like what's the difference there might be a different giggle maybe no giggle i don't know i don't know you're irreplaceable i might be but i don't know. I don't know. You're irreplaceable? I might be, but I don't know. Actually, I think we're all

pretty replaceable. It's just finding someone to do this. But if you replace me, can you do me a favor and change the name? I promise you I will change the name.

And the location? Toronto Anthony sounds pretty good. That would be great. Mississauga. Mississauga Anthony. Mississauga Anthony. I'm not far from Mississauga.

We'll talk after. Etobicoke is Mississauga's close Mississauga Anthony. I'm, you know, I'm not far from Mississauga. This kid, we'll talk after. Etobicoke is Mississauga's like close sibling. That's right. They're like the longest undefended border in the GTA. Or something like that. That's right. Thank you. And I ran the Hazel 5K in 2007.

The Hazel 5K race. Oh, the Mississauga marathon. Yeah, well, my shirt says Mississauga marathon and I wear it proudly and everybody thinks I ran a marathon but I actually ran the hazel 5k I think that's the south of Mississauga right yeah by the lighthouse

poor credit that's the one the greatest part of Mississauga actually it's coming up again are you running it I can't run anymore I haven't been able that's a whole other podcast Anthony I haven't been able... That's a whole other podcast, Anthony. I haven't been able to run since 2007. Poor Mike. Thank you.

When you do that whole other podcast, maybe you want to try out your replaceable Rosie. This attitude is... This is a new development. At the old studio, you were so accommodating and pleasant. What are we on? Episode 24?

Oh, episode 24. Once we get up into the hundreds, maybe we have to stop numbering them. Maybe by then I was thinking, when I thought of my special guest, Anthony from Palma Pasta, I was thinking,

this studio is still unsponsored. You thinking what I'm thinking, Rosie? Palma Pasta Studio? Either that or McDonald's. We're all enjoying McDonald's coffee today. What did you say, Mike? I can't hear you. What's that?

Technical difficulties. Other than the fact I pop my peas, so it'll be very difficult to call anything, it'll be torturous to be calling it the Palma Pasta Studio. That's right. Humbly used to say that the Palma Pasta Studio. Palma Pasta. Oh, it's so nice the alliteration.

Anthony, why is it named, did you name it Palma Pasta? My mom's name is Palma. That's lovely. Palma Petrucci. That's her name and we named it. First we started out as Queensway Noodles but someone was pushing us saying that you should use your mother's name in it and we did Palma Pasta. And how long have you been in business?

This is 28 years now. We've been in Mississauga. Wow. We had one location, yeah. And now we have three satellite locations and we have a commissary in Mississauga. That's amazing. I had the privilege of having some of Palma Pasta's food at the Humble and Fred anniversary party. It's amazing. Thank party. It's amazing.

Rosie, there's some in the kitchen right now. I know, I know. I'm going to have to perform. I better earn it. Earn my dinner. Yeah, and thank you for the coffee. I don't know if you know anyone at McDonald's who wants to come on, because I'd be happy to call this the McDonald's studio.

Oh my gosh, my pleasure, guys. They make good coffee these McDonald's they do well I was going to get Starbucks but I have to admit even though I'm

not one to use the drive-thrus unless I have my little guy in the car today I was in a rush so I was looking for a drive-thru you mean your little guy Scott right

my little guy yeah no usually when it's although lately he's been sending me out of the car to get it so when we're Scott should get his own coffee.

You guys don't use drive-thrus? I don't use drive-thrus. Do we have a talk? This has been a talk. We did a big talk and I went on and on about how I never use drive-thrus. I get out. And it's like as soon as I said that, now it's like I'm using drive-thrus all the time. Did you buy this McDonald's coffee via drive-thru?

Yes or no? Mike won't be able to drink it. Yes, via drive-thru. I'm pouring it on the mixing board right now. We'll have to re-record. And then it was funny too because I ordered them and the girl gave them to me

and there's three coffees here. One of them has just milk for Anthony. Two have milk and sugar for Mike and I. And the lovely girl at the drive-thru, she presented them to me but there was nothing to indicate which was the one without milk. Not cool.

Yeah. And so even though I knew I had to get her, I'm like, I can't do that. So I had to wait. It took forever. They should have like a little bell. Everyone knows you got to do something. Well, thank you. Like, that's what I thought.

I mean, there was nothing. And, you know, there's all these things on the side of the cup. You can mark it. The cup designers were prepared for this. There was the cups, everything was prepared. Rosie, nothing is marked. Nothing is marked. It's a training issue.

And so I left to make sure it wasn't me. I went to make sure it wasn't me because I didn't want to hold up all the people behind me and waste all that gas. But I'm like, I can't go not knowing which is the one without milk. And so I waited and then it was taking a really long time and I couldn't catch anybody's eye. And then finally I honked my horn. I felt like the biggest a-hole in the world that's the only way I can describe it and the way she came

she was like oh it's that one and I'm like first of all like how what? If you don't tell me I wouldn't know so I'm glad that I had to taste all three before I discovered which one was mine I knew it tasted kind of funny I spit it back Anthony don't worry

and I mean you know you guys are the best, but I'm sure, you know, you really didn't want me sampling your coffees beforehand, although I suppose what you don't know won't hurt you.

I'm just worried about the lipstick. I have a lot. I have, like, bright red lipstick on and it really does. Does that stay, like, when you wash

your cups in the dishwasher, do they come out with the lipstick, Mark? That's actually interesting. Thank you. I ask the tough questions. That probably could be debated whether that's interesting.

No, it actually doesn't. But there is one particular mug that I have that it doesn't come off. So there you go. Great question, Mark. That's the Rosie mug. Great question. Thank you.

Anyways, I do hope that we are at some point able to have a secure sponsor for the Space Studio. Well, that McDonald's service sounds like it was lousy, but I always get good service when I go to Palma Pasta. Keep on working it, Mike. Keep on working it. Dude, it's cheaper than you think. I would do it for free lasagna. Deal.

You know what? I'll do it for those good kaisers and the butter. Two of the contract. Mike has very simple tastes. He just likes buns and butter. I'll lose my girlish figure. Imagine if I just had that lasagna every day. I'd balloon.

That's amazing. I don't know. No? You're exercising. I am. I swim every day. Everything in moderation. You're right.

I do think that pasta gets a bad rap because I grew up, we had pasta at least three or four times a week. We ate a lot of pasta. We ate it with cheese. It's funny that you mention that. None of us were fat. In Europe, especially in Italy, I was there probably in 2010. We went on a tour of northern Italy. And even when I went to visit my cousins, there was, you probably eat pasta every day.

Every day. And then they said, well, you shouldn't be eating pasta every day. But there they eat pasta every day. They eat late. We didn't have a meal. Dinner time was not before 8, 9 o'clock at night. But the one thing that they're not doing is that they're not drinking pop. I think pop is everywhere.

And all the other, it was all fresh food. So it was all within the region, tomatoes, everything. Everything was within the region. And they're eating their heaviest meal at lunch. So they're not eating sweets and anything past 6 o'clock. Their biggest meal is lunch. And it's not a Big Mac. No, my God. You don't see any And that's what... And it's not a Big Mac.

You don't see any obese people there. No, it's true. I think people are a lot more active. I think people walk a lot more. You walk to get your groceries. Here we drive everywhere. It's all a drive-through. But I don't think it's as much exercise as it is all the processed food that we're eating. I couldn't agree more. It's true.

Everything is fresh there. And you buy it every day. It's all regional. No, yeah. So I feel like pasta gets, you know, you hear so many people say, oh, I stopped eating pasta. I don't eat pasta. And I feel sad. Rosie, I love pasta.

It's sad for them. Pasta is wonderful. Let me tell you a little story. I want people to eat pasta. Years ago, I was working in Mississauga. And this is a true story. I was going to go out to eat. I wanted Italian food.

I love Italian food. And I asked a colleague, Nick. I remember asking Nick, do you know a good Italian place? I just want like a hot table or whatever, some good Italian food. And he's like, yeah, there's a place called Palma Pasta. And he's like, it's at, what's the name of the street? Semenik. Semenik. Semenik Court. Semenik Court. And he told like, it's at, what's the name of the street? Sten? Seminick. Seminick.

Seminick Court. Seminick Court. And he said, told me where it was. It was actually really close to the office. So I went there at lunch with a couple of girls I work with. I worked with. Is this leading into the story? Yeah.

I'm going to. The story's coming, everybody. The story's coming. We're getting right to it. So I walk into the first time I've ever been in this place called Palma Pasta. Just heard about it for the first time that day, but I love Italian food. Here it is. I'm inside there.

And then what happens? That is a great start to the story, but you have to rewind it a little bit. We have to go back in time. I've got to ask you a question, Rosie. What's your favorite meal? Other than pasta, what's your favorite meal? It's all going to tie in together. We're doing a Breaking Bad.

Oh, this is such a good question. I love questions like this. I would have to say pizza is my favorite. Most delicious is your pizza. My favorite thing in the world, if you were like, if I have to have something right now,

it would be a pizza with anchovies and black olives. Okay, wonderful. Think about that now as well. Do you remember the movie Bronx Tale? Yes! Okay, great movie, right?

De Niro. Right on. De Niro and Chaz Palminter. They're both great Irish actors. Yeah, right. Irish actors. So here's how it's going. Back in the 80s, in the early 80s, I was a big fan of CFNY, always listening to it.

I mean, Scott Turner, Chris Shepard, all of them. We were going to RPM. It was one of those things. We all followed CFNY We were going to RPM. It was one of those things. We all followed CFMY. Big CFMY fans. Then when Humble and Fred get together, was it 1989? Yeah. Big fans.

You know what? They were funny. It was instant chemistry. They were funny. They got each other. They were immature. They were goofs. They were everything.

Everything that I found funny. Now, for me, it was probably one of the best morning shows. And I enjoyed it. So you liked CFNY and then you liked Humble and Fred every morning. They were part of your routine. Instantly. You know what? That's cool. Fred was always with every show morning show. But when Humble came along, it was they were a team. You knew right

away that they were a fantastic team. And I think a lot of people felt like you. I know you were a huge fan. I did. My husband was a huge fan. They're very popular. They were. And you know what? They were really funny together, very good together.

I think it was a great team. But fast forwarding to when they went to Mojo. Was it 2001, Mike? Yes. 2001. 2001. And they started this Radio for Men show. Mojo Radio.

Mojo Radio. It was a fantastic concept. And I think that it was, again, a great concept, just executed poorly. But again, Humble and Fred were asked to do the morning show and they were perfect. They got it. They did everything.

Remind me, they left to go to Mojo, right? They left to go to Mojo. It was the same company. It was the same company. Chorus. It was Chorus. But they left. They were asked to leave, given an opportunity.

It was perfect because I think they just wanted They were asked to leave given an opportunity. It was perfect because I think they just wanted to talk more than just play songs. And Rosie's excused for not knowing because she was not allowed to listen to Talk Radio for Guys. You weren't allowed to. Ridiculous.

I don't know what that means. It was really good. It was called Talk Radio for Guys. Talk Radio for Guys. Was that? Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay.

I get it now. I wasn't allowed. It was really, really good. And you know what? Their show was really good. Humble was one of the first guys. This is how it really went was Humble was one of the first guys that got the concept of interacting with the listener.

So these were sending emails back and forth. And I used to send emails to Humble and bust his balls constantly. But he got it. He didn't get upset or didn't get, because I used to make fun of him. So you'd send emails. And he would play it right away. Did you send them as Anthony?

Yes. I used to make fun of Fred living at Bradford. He probably loved it. He probably enjoyed it, right? I could see his personality enjoying that. He was a comic. He didn't get anything personal, and I kept on sending.

He knew after a while, this guy's just busting my balls. And he would play some good bits. He wouldn't play some things, but some stuff got on the radio. It was really, really cool. And then we were going further down when they moved to what was it? Mix 99.9.

And then Fred was fired and then Humble was fired and I think Mike reached out to him. When did you reach out to Mike? Alright, so I reached out right after Humble was fired. What year was that, 2006? Oh, I think it was 06. I think Fred was dismissed in 05

and then Humble in 06. So now we're getting into the meat of the story, Rosie. So it's 2006, okay? And Mike reaches out to Humble and Humble responds. Although Humble reached out to me, but I did write about him.

You wrote about him and you know what? He wrote back. And you know what? It was an interesting dialogue between you both. It was really, really good. And this story goes back so far. He gave me his BlackBerry back. It was an interesting dialogue between you both. It was really, really good. This story goes back so far.

He gave me his Blackberry number. Continue, please. It was really, really good. It was a good storyline. It was really, really funny. These guys are high five. When I make Rosie laugh, we high five. No one's ever seen that before.

I've told everybody. You've told us our secret. Now 2006. And now they're interacting with each other and they're going back. And he has the blog Toronto Mike going on. And he's going back and forth with Humble. And I'm weighing in every once in a while. And I just decide at one moment that I want to lay into Mike.

I think at that time it was just getting too gay. I don't know what it was. But it was just getting too gay. The Toronto Mike Humble Howard Lovin was too gay for you? You know what? I have to just ask. So did you find Mike's website? How did you first start visiting Mike's website? Because I was Googling, I think, Humble

Howard and then Mike's blog came into it. Which is how Humble Howard found your website, right? Yeah, everyone found me that way. All my listeners. And then I went out to the website. It was commenting once in a while and then it was going back and forth with him and humble and at one point i just said you know what now is the time and for me it was just about busting his balls and this is toronto mike

so i send him one of the i just lay into mike it was just horrendous it was bad it was going i was laying into him and finally i said i'm gonna call him toronto no mike right torwana be mike or something like that well ouch think of now think of your think of your best your best okay but wait what was the and what was the what were you laying in about like what was the subject matter just saying like you know just overall how annoying he is yeah just just busting his balls like you know i didn't think it would go back because again i had interaction with Humble. And Humble was always sending me bits back and stuff. And it was going back and forth.

So I decided to lay into Mike. Now, I lay into Mike. Mike freaks out. He sends me a text back. He's so sensitive. He's such a sensitive soul. He sends an email back. I'm going to let you finish and then I'm going to tell you the truth in a minute.

Hold on. He sends an email and he sends it back and he comments back and he really lays into me. Then all his troll friends on the Toronto mic lay into me. So it was like a pile on. Now think of your meal. That was, you remember, what was it? Pizza with anchovies? My anchovies.

Was it extra anchovies? Now multiply it by 10. That's how delicious that was when Mike sent that through to me. And I knew I had him. I had him. And you have no idea who this person is. Yeah, I'm actually just opened my Gmail to search for Il Duce. So I'm going to find this email.

So I lay into him. And it goes back and forth for a little bit. Then all at once and all his troll friends dump in and whatever. It was delicious. It was fantastic. I enjoyed it. You were smiling. I love this stuff. I love this stuff.

So then finally, what happens is that some troll on the internet says, or one of the commenters, I can't remember if it was Elvis, says, hey, why don't you put this douchebag's IP number? So what does Mike do? He puts my IP out there. But Mike, that's like putting someone's fingerprint.

That's so private. No, that's not true. It's basically like showing him naked. It's like showing somebody naked. You're wrong. He gets so upset. He puts my IP. Now I knew I have this guy, you know?

So all of a sudden, he puts his IP out there. And I text Humble because I had his email address, his BlackBerry email address. And I said, listen, Humble. Because you're buds now, right? Well, not really buds, but I'm just saying this. I said email address, his BlackBerry email address. And I said, listen, Humble. Because you're buds now, right? Well, not really buds, but I'm just saying, I said, listen, tell the guy to cool it. It's just a joke.

And I said, I'm going to sick my lawyer, Marvin Lipschitz, on him. So I guess Humble gets it and then sends something to Mike and he removes it finally, right? So I figure, okay, everything's okay. So you removed his IP address. He did.

He did. First of all, you're missing a couple of details. Hold on, hold on. Yes, I'm listening. He puts my IP, then he removes all, you're missing a couple of details. Hold on. Continue. Hold on. Yes, I'm listening. He puts my IP. Then he removes it. I'll edit this anyways.

It'll never make the website. And so I say to Humble, I send Humble a text or an email. And I said, thanks, bud. And he says, it's really funny how all my friends come and back me up. Anyways, it's over. And I try to comment on Toronto Mike. And I'm not allowed. What?

He blocked me. You blocked him? He blocks me. You blocked him? He blocks me. I thought you don't block anyone. That's what he said. I said I don't censor comments. There's totally different things. I'll block an IP address.

Previous to this, he says he doesn't block anyone. So he blocks me. That's not true. He blocks me. Please, let me know when you're done. Just tap your head when you're done. So he blocks my... I can't comment anything.

And I'm thinking, all right. This is a side of Toronto Mike I've never known. It's not entirely fair, but I suck. I knew I had him. Sucky. So as time goes on, it probably, what was it, about a week or two after that you came in? Yes. You came in about, okay.

It was probably maybe two weeks after. All of a sudden, I'm sitting or standing. I came in from the warehouse. And I come into the front. And who's in front of me? Toronto Mike. Now, he doesn't know who I am. the front, and who's in front of me? Toronto Mike. Now, he doesn't know who I am. So, Mike, so now we're back to the day.

This is a Tarantino movie. We're now back to when I was entering with my colleagues this place that Nick told me about called Palma Pasta. So he's there with two colleagues. I do find this quite fascinating. But when do I get to actually – I do need a moment, though, to report. Hold on. No, no. Hold on.

Let me finish because I'm going on with this. You're doing a great job. It's a great piece of fiction. Please keep going. All of a sudden, he's right in front of me. He's in the lineup, and he's probably about seven or eight people deep, and I'm thinking, what the fuck is going on here? What's George Clooney doing in my shot?

Okay, wait. I need to know how you knew it was him. I've seen pictures of him. Right. Okay. On the website, of course. Okay, so he doesn't know me, though. Of course, because he wouldn't have seen pictures of you. In the back of my mind. I'm not pictures of him. Right. I've seen pictures on his blog. On the website, of course. So he doesn't know me though. Of course, because he wouldn't have seen pictures of you.

In the back of my mind. I'm not sure though. So I'm thinking, does he know me? Has he seen me around? What is he doing here? Because this is about a week after he bans me. So I'm thinking this guy's put me on. Mike, have you ever banned anyone before?

No, he's not. He said he never did, but he did with me. And that's what I wanted to make my point. Now he said that he did it. Hold on. I'm going to wrap it up. All right. And that's what I wanted to make my point. Now he said that. He did it. Hold on. And then what he does is he's in the lineup. And then all of a sudden I'm thinking, what's going on?

Is he here to sort of start shit? What's he doing? I see around. There's no one really with him. So I figure, okay, I'm okay. So I move over to the side and I'm watching him. But he's not watching me. So I see him. So all of a sudden he makes a break for the pop fridge.

So I said, this is my time. So I pounce on him. So all of a sudden I says makes a break for the pop fridge. So I said, this is my time. So I pounce on him. So all of a sudden, I says, hey, are you Toronto Mike? He looks at me. And you have no idea who he is. He looks at me, right? All of a sudden, it's like deer in the headlights. And he's thinking, he's sort of like, yeah.

And I said, all of a sudden, I said, my name's Il Duce. Now, do you remember Chaz Palminteri? Do you remember Bronx Tale? Do you remember the scene where he locks the door on the bikers and he says, now I gave you a chance to leave. Now you can't leave. Fear. Fear.

Fear. Fear. And then. Terror. And then a moment where the guy does the over. That's a good comparison for the visuals. And all the bikers' faces drop. All their blood from their heads drop.

That was Mike. He was like backing away. His eyes were wide open. His mouth was open. And all of a sudden I said, and I put out my hand and I said, listen, I'm just busting your balls. It was just a joke. And then all of a sudden the color goes back into his face.

You thought you were about to get beat up. Yeah, I did. Yeah, no, he did. He was wearing a white robe. So the blood didn't stay in his clothes. I've been in a lot of fights. so I figured whoever this guy was with. So I wanted to see if he had anything. I knew Mike wasn't going to do anything.

So all of a sudden, I wanted to. Well, you were there with chicks, right? I'm a peaceful man, Rose. You know that. I'm a lover, not a fighter. All of a sudden, when he does that, I put out my hand, shake his hand, and he's like relieved. I could see him like. You're like, I'm not going to die.

Look at his face. If you didn't know he was a nice guy, he looks like a dou I could see him like, you're like, I'm not going to die. Cause look at his face. If you didn't know he was a nice guy, he looks like a, like a douchebag, right? I does not. He's most certainly, he's smiling now,

but you look tough. He looks at you pissed off at me, but that's what, that was the, you look like you could hurt. And he was wearing a white, white handily. If you remember that scene,

that was Mike. And I thought he was going to drop his pop. So when I put my hand, then it was over. And I said, are you guys eating here? And he says, yeah. I says, and then I go over and I said, I comp the meal, whatever. And then they ate. Oh, isn't that nice?

So I ordered a cow worth of meal. And then after, he writes about it in the blog. And he still eats it to this day. Oh, he wrote about it? Yeah, I did. I've written about this a couple of times. But it was a life lesson. Not just for Mike, but for me too. Because you know what?

I sort of judged Mike for not ever meeting him. And after having met him, I love this guy. First of all, it's mutual. He's all right. It's mutual. Rose, you love me too. I've got that somewhere. It's been recorded.

Great soul, everything. Honestly, having met this, this was a lesson to learn. Shut up and kiss me. These two are about to make out they're itching closer to each other you took a few liberties I'm not even going to

call you out on it because it was a great story I love a great story it was a truth it's pretty crazy it just shows you how life is crazy how you would walk

into his restaurant you must have been shocked oh yeah because he was he didn't know I was going to be there but I was sort of surprised

I said is this guy putting me on? What's he doing here? Did he come here with someone? Was he going to do something, make a scene? I didn't know. He asked for my autograph, which was cool. I did, yeah, right. So coincidental.

Yeah, autograph. And it just... We both started laughing. That was pure, genuine laughter. And I signed it Toronto Mike, like a real douchebag. Isn't it funny though? It's very, like you would have, I didn't think of that. Like you would have thought him coming in, that he was coming in.

Well, I didn't know if he tracked the IP or whatever, if he knew where I was coming from. Well, of course I did track the IP. I did. And I totally didn't connect though. I never, it was two weeks removed and I hadn't thought about it in two weeks. I didn't connect. Did the IP address show specifically an address? His IP address said

Palma Pasta. So that is then if you put it up on the internet like putting personal information. Yours would say Toronto Bell. That's why I removed it.

That's why I removed it. Yours, Rose, your IP address would say Toronto Bell. But at that moment when he put it out he was so upset. But his didn't.

No, his didn't. But I, so yeah. So you put his business really. So that's quite revealing. I'm not allowed to swear on this podcast, but you don't F with Toronto Mike, okay, old dude? And you were F-ing with me.

And as I recall... It didn't affect me whatsoever. I couldn't care less. You've downplayed the... What caused me to post your IP address. You did downplay that a little bit. How so? How so? what caused me to post your IP address. You did downplay that a little bit. I was getting emails and phone calls from Humble Howard,

who was legitimately concerned about some of the things you're posting. And as I recall, didn't I post this on HumbleHoward.com? You know what? You may have. It wasn't TorontoMike.com. Was it TorontoMike? It was never TorontoMike.com. I would never post an IP address. But you banned... Hold on.

I do my dirty business in other people's backyards. But you banned me from making comments on your site. I banned your IP address. But you banned, hold on. I do my dirty business in other people's backyards. but you banned me from making comments on your site. I banned your IP address from commenting on my site because I was actually not sure you were playing off a full deck.

I had this moment of, it was a security fear. I felt you were a security risk. See how delicious that was? I think you like, that is pretty delicious. I've never banned

Argy or Irvine, but I banned Il Duce. And I got under a skin at one time. Irvine might hear this. I get emails from him still. I miss him. Irvine is active email-wise.

He just won't comment. It's too bad. I actually, I'm sure there's many that wouldn't agree. Do you miss Irvine? Or no, you're sick of him? Not really. Yeah. Hey, can I tell you about Elvis?

So Elvis and I. Oh, Elvis laid into me too. Yeah, Elvis and I were buds. Oh, yeah, he did. In the real world. Protecting this guy? Oh, protecting him like a little dove. I let him know. I told in the real world. Protecting this guy? Oh, protecting him like a little dove.

I let him know. I told him the whole Il Duce story before I met you and yeah, he was right on you because he's like one of my security dogs.

He's like your henchman. Yeah, he did it from behind a keyboard. Tough guy. Sounds like Il Duce. I must say though, I am quite impressed how Il Duce

got under your skin. Rosie, Rosie. You really, I'm surprised how El Duce got under your skin. Rosie, Rosie. You really, I'm surprised that you let him get under your skin so much. Rosie, it's because it happened on HumbleHoward.com. If this was happening with HumbleHoward, if it was just my site, I don't care. After having read his site. So what was it that got under your skin so much? I'm trying to find the email.

Because I hit him with the truth. You know what? It was a truthful thing. It was just a joke. But you know what? I spiked it a little bit. And he got really, really upset.

Mr. Petrucci, when you mentioned that you were going to call your lawyer, I don't think Humble realized you gave him the name Lipschitz. But why are you so concerned about Humble?

I actually think he thought you were going to be litigious with him. It was just, I thought, listen, I think Humble overreacted and then it's like, F this guy,

so I'm deleting this crap, I'm going to ban his IP address and I'm going to post it so my henchmen can go at him. You really got them worked up into quite a frenzy. I'm pretty impressed. He listened to Humble. He pulled the IP down after a day or so.

So you were protecting that fellow from Howard. Yeah, of course. On Toronto Mike, which has way more comments and activity than HumbleHoward.com, I've never ever done anything of the sort. You guys can check. That's what I thought. I thought that. He banned me.

And how many people go at me in the comments, Rose? Have you read my comments? Every second comment hates me. That's what I did. I had gone after it. There's a lot of ball breaking. That's why I'm surprised El Duchi was able to get under your skin so effectively. But hold on.

After that, he learned a lesson, and he understood that it was just complete ball breaking. Of course, but I didn't know it until I met you and now I love you but at the time, because you brought, you know what it is,

you weren't just commenting, you were also emailing so once you introduced the email, to me, it was becoming a security risk. Mike's getting upset.

See how Mike's getting upset now? He's the risk. I'm so upset. He's agitated. You're agitated. I'm so upset. He's agitated. You're agitated. I'm so upset. I'm only going to eat half my lasagna.

Well, it is nice that you became genuine friends. We have. Because you genuinely are friends, I can see. We're more than just friends, right, Anthony? No. Anthony's like, no, we're just friends. I love that story too. And it's just so random.

Life is random. Of all the Italian places and all the lunch hours and all the offices in the world. It was pretty funny, Mike. I can't believe you. And you know who I am. And I don't know. But you came in. I remember you were wearing a white.

White smock. Smock. Which I worked at a grocery store. I used to wear these things every week. You should have seen his face though, Rosie. But he looked like a guy. He was really scared. He thought he was You should have seen his face though, Rosie. But he looked like a guy. He was really

scared. He thought he was about to get beat up. Yeah, he did. I didn't know he owned the place. First of all, I

thought he was just some $6 an hour chef and the guy in the back or whatever. Some janitor who was going to meet me on the back

of a crowbar or something. Nothing wrong with that. But the owner is less likely to break my kneecaps with a crowbar

than the janitor. Is that fair to say? You have more to lose. Oh, not really. I don't know. I would own, by the way. Not really. Rose, I came this close to owning Palm Apostle.

Oh, really? Oh, it was fantastic. It was a good day. I love that story. That was a really good story. Now, is Il-Jin-Se still banned from? Oh, please. I removed that ban as soon as he calmed my meal.

As soon as he calmed my lunch. That day he removed it and he told the story of what had just happened. Go to torontomike.com and search for Duce. D-U-C-E. That's the best way to kind of call up all the Il Duce love letters I've written over the years. So I have a question, Mike. Is Il Duce the first friend you've made from your website?

You mean other than Humble Howard? Oh, right. I guess that's right. Well, I'm far more important than Humble Howard. That whole world came through my website. That's not funny. I'm thinking of the guest list. I've got a wedding coming up in June, and I'm thinking, who's on the guest list?

It's only on that guest list because of TorontoMike.com. And everyone except you, Rose. I hope you know my RG is my best man. That makes sense. Irvine's a ring bearer. CQ is going to be the officiant.

We're going to be doing an abortion debate in about 10 minutes. I have a list of topics we're not allowed to talk about. We will not reopen the abortion debate. I know you wanted to, Anthony, but I don't think that's appropriate. Absolutely. We can still talk about it. Oh, you're a good Catholic boy.

You thinking about running for Pope? Is that on the to-do list? We'll leave it up to the Cardinals. Scott told me apparently any Catholic man has a shot at it. Well, that's me. I think I was baptized, as you know. I have to say it was... Funny question, though.

Were you raised Catholic, Mike? Yeah. I went to school with Michael Power. And what happened? I started to think for myself. And when I was old enough to think for myself, I saw things... I still think for myself, though.

I'm still Catholic. No, you think you're thinking for yourself. No, I am. See, this is also on my list of things. Not to talk about? It's also, we can't talk about religion or God or abortion or... The flu shot. The flu shot or Rob Ford.

I was just interested. Especially if you live in Mississauga, you're not allowed to have an opinion on Rob Ford. We can all have an opinion on Rob Ford. Yeah, I noticed that when you pulled up in your Corvette, I saw hanging from the rearview mirror, you had a picture of Rob Ford. What's up with that, bud?

It was beside the dice. No. What was it? I rock his head. You got one of those in the garage? No. Are you kidding? Rosie has one.

Really? So tell me, Valentine's Day is like, right, I know that you sell at Palma Pasta these lovely heart-shaped raviolis. Cheese-filled. They're good. Really, really good. They're very good. And they're heart-shaped? They're heart-shaped.

That's gorgeous. He spends all day cutting them into heart-shaped. That's gorgeous. No, but a bowl of heart-shaped ravioli, that's gorgeous. What a lovely thing. Red or white, they're really big sellers. I bet. For the last week, we've probably done maybe about 100 kilos of ravioli.

You sell it tremendously. People love it. They pre-order it because they want to make sure that they're not going to not be able to have it. And I think I'd much rather have a bowl of ravioli than chocolates. That's for sure. You know what? They're cooking it for their kids on the 13th and the 14th. It's a really good idea.

It's a Thursday night. Other than the fact you move a lot of awesome product, what do you think of Valentine's Day? I just want to know you two, your opinions on this hallmark holiday of ours. Well. Tell me, Rosie. In my world, every day is Valentine's Day. Absolutely.

So truly, I'm spoiled. I don't... Does Scott know this? I guess. Does he know about this other man? I get, I really do get, I got a good one. I get treated like it's Valentine's Day all the time. So for us, Thursday, we're actually having dinner with my mom and my brother because it's my brother's and my little guy's birthday. So we're doing a family dinner on thursday wow um you know it's really funny i used to be very with valentine's day um barf you know it's a hallmark holiday blah blah blah but you know what um i'm sort of i don't think i think it's all right you know what i think that of all the fake holidays one that

inspires you to show love to someone you love, really, is that so bad? Okay, but you've always had somebody. You're a very good-looking woman. You've always, right? Am I right? She is lovely. I can understand why you want to spend once a week with Rosie.

She blew me off last week. I was going to say, what about other people who, like there are guys less attractive than me and you, like Il Duce, for example, who probably had some Valentine's Days in his life was going to say. What about other people who, like, they're guys less attractive than me and you, like, for example, who probably had some Valentine's Days in his life where he was alone. Don't you think it's sort of tough for anyone who doesn't have

a significant other? Well, I think anything in life... Like, screw them? Like, they're ugly? That's their fault? Well, no, but I think, you know, in our life, you know, does that mean that we can't make movies about love? We can't have, you know, there's love every time you turn a corner. You shouldn't hold hands when you're walking down the street because you might offend somebody.

I agree with that as well. Come on. No more handling. What do you think, Anthony, about Valentine's Day? I like the holiday. I really do. Because you move all that ravioli. Well, besides that, I think it's a great holiday.

I mean, it means something different to men than it does for women. Sure. But I think it's a great time. I think it's a special time for everyone. I think it's just one day. And everyone says, of course, like Rosie says, every day should be Valentine's Day. And it is. But I think that one day signifies something special where you can absolutely share with someone else. And I think it's a good holiday. I believe it's commercialized, but there's nothing wrong with that. If people can enjoy it and spend money, whatever they have to do, I mean, I think it's a great holiday. And, you know, it's funny, and I might get this wrong because I read this a long time ago,

but I think I began to like Valentine's Day more after I learned a little bit about St. Valentine. And, again, I might get this wrong. I should have read up on it. Prepped for it because I do. I love the story when I read about it. But it comes from St. Valentine, I think, was a Roman priest, you know, centuries ago that married people when they couldn't,

they weren't able to get married and he would marry them. So I thought it was such a beautiful sort of origin, you know, somebody taking a risk in a tumultuous time to bring people together. I thought that's kind of nice. And sure, it's commercialized, but what isn't commercialized? Life is commercialized. Everything is commercialized. And you know what? People are very cynical about it.

Oh, you know, they mark up the roses and this and that. You know what? If somebody can make a few extra bucks on Valentine's Day, why not? I'm not going to be hard on anyone. On February 1st of this year, which is only last week, I guess, Monica moved in. We're now cohabitating and living

in sin prior to this wedding of the century in June. What should I be doing for this Valentine's Day other than the ravioli, heart-shaped ravioli Anthony's going to comp me? What should I be doing? Cook those's Day? Other than the ravioli, heart-shaped ravioli. Anthony's going to comp me. What should I be doing? Cook those on the 13th and take her out for dinner on the 14th.

Exactly. Isn't everyone doing that? Like, how am I going to, I got to make some reservations? You know what? Make her a nice meal at home. Exactly. I think. Craft dinner?

But if she likes craft dinner. Scramble dates? I think it's about doing what the person wants. It's about knowing your partner. Like for me, you know, I think it's about doing what the person wants. It's about knowing your partner. Like for me, you know, I don't really like chocolates and stuff, but I do love flowers. So, you know, I'll probably get some flowers. Tell me something.

Do women like receiving flowers on Valentine's? I love it. Oh, yeah. I do. I love it. But I know lots of girls that, you know. Don't? Don't. Really?

That wouldn't care, right? Why though? Well, I have one girlfriend and she's like, oh, they just die. She's very practical. Or is she negative? She's right. Or is she negative? Well, I don't know.

I said it for you. Don't worry. I think she might be a little better. But I think, who doesn't like to get flowers? Come on. Flowers are beautiful. And, you know, it's nice. But I think it's about doing, you know,

you know, Monica, you should do something that will make her feel kind of special and make her feel like, yeah, this is the right choice, marrying this guy. You should want to, you know, You want me to lie to her? We have such an honest relationship. Make her remember why she wants to be with you.

Okay, that's, there's a blank. Look at my face. No, I am trying to blank. Okay, that's a blank. Look, I'm excited. No, I am trying to blank. Okay, very good. I will do that. Has anyone at this table seen Les Mis, the movie? No. Okay, here's my thought on it real quick.

I think it possibly might be the best thing ever, but I will never know because I can never see myself watching this movie. Like you could hand it to me and say, pop this in and it's going to start playing. I don't think I'll ever see this movie. I can't watch musicals. I don't know why, but I just can't. You know, I want to see it.

I was complaining to my girlfriend. I was like, I want to see it, but it just looks like such a downer. She's so funny. She's like, oh gosh, are you kidding? It's so miserable and you come out of it and you're like, my life is great. I heard the storyline, though, is pretty good. Someone has told me the storyline, but they went to see Lemus and they just didn't like it for whatever reason.

I've heard a couple people say they didn't like it. Because it gets lots of praise and everybody says, yeah, I just can't imagine. I'm just saying it might be the best thing ever. You can't imagine Russell Crowe singing? It's not Russell Crowe. Is it Russell Crowe? Yeah, yeah.

Isn't it? Oh, I thought it was The Wolverine. It's him too. Him too. Oh, my God. I have to see this movie. They don't market this movie, right? Yeah, and Amanda Seyfried, the girl from Big Love and Hathaway, obviously.

She won the Golden Globe. She's getting a lot of accolades. I'm not seeing it until Rose sees it. That's all I'm going to say. All right, well, you're going to be waiting a long time because my movie, all I've seen so far, and my aunt, my aunt Lynn, she runs the family Oscar pool. I know Lynn. That's right.

And the family Oscar pool is serious business. How come she didn't invite me? I'm her friend now. There's deadlines. Can I get invited? Familia. Lynn, can you send me? Next year, you might get an invite next year.

But there's deadlines. There's rules. What's the point of the deadline? Because I have one from my little family too. Well, the point of the deadline in our family

is what was happening is that we were all basically using predictions from the newspaper. But aren't they out already? And not... There's a couple that are particularly good

as they get closer that come out. So we were using them and Lynn, and this is why I love Lynn, she's like, you know what? You all need to stop using the predictions. We're moving up the deadline.

How far away is the deadline? I think it's June. I don't even know. Well, no, the deadline was extended. It's actually the deadline was noon today, I believe. It was extended? It was extended because of the snow. So I can still get an invite?

I don't, well... Well, listen, I'm talking directly. Lynn listens to this podcast. I'm going to It was extended because of the snow. So I can still get an invite? I don't, well... Well, listen, I'm talking directly. Lynn listens to this podcast. I'm going to cut out the middleman. Lynn. You've already missed it. You've already missed it, my friend. Send me to the pool.

But I realized... Or I'll block your IP address, Lynn. I've only seen... You would never. You would never. I would never allow that. Argo is the only movie I've seen. It's pathetic.

I saw that. Which I loved. It was so good. I thought it was pretty good. Can I just ask if my friend Anthony here has seen the Silver Linings playbook? No, I haven't. Okay. My daughter has though. Everyone loves this movie and I didn't like it at all. And I'm the only, I can't find anyone who agrees with me. Oh, I wish I'd seen it. My daughter said she liked it. Yeah, see? And I saw it on Rotten Tomatoes, it's got like 92 or something. I actually was offended by the movie. Well,

I don't... I think I remember you telling me you thought the depiction of the bipolar character was unrealistic. Yeah, I didn't like how they depicted mental health issues, and I didn't like the dialogue. I don't like how they wasted De Niro. Your friend De Niro was just... I didn't like the lines they gave him and how they

treated all the conflict they introduced and don't deal with. And it just seemed really linear and disappointing. Is he nominated? I don't think so. No. Jennifer Lawrence, I believe, is nominated. And everyone thinks she's going to... I didn't pick her, though, in my pool. I picked Jessica

Chastain. I think he's nominated. Is he not? He might be. I don't know. Yeah, the guy is. The guy is. Who is that? That's Bradley. Bradley Cooper. Yeah.

He's nominated. I think so. He's nominated, I think. Yeah, he's nominated for... Apparently he did a fantastic job though. Yeah, but I think you're thinking of The Hangover 3. No. Oh my God.

I went to see The Hangover 2 because I thought The Hangover was... I haven't seen that. It looked awful. Oh, it was awful. It was so... It actually made me angry. It was so awful because you know what don't just make a sequel

just like at least try make a little bit of an effort for it to be funny because I thought the first one was so funny it was so bad

it was so bad do not see it it's terrible I'm not going to ever see it but you know we brought up mental illness I did which reminds me

that today is February 12th and it's Belle Let's Talk Day, which is, I think, pretty cool. Now, I think when everyone listens to it, it won't be Let's Talk Day anymore. I might get this up tonight, Rose. Oh, okay. Well, cool. Well, if you are listening to it today, February 12th, and I'm sure you've heard about it in the media, but if you send a text or you tweet something on Twitter with the hashtag, I believe it's Bell Let's Talk, Bell will donate some cash to mental health initiatives across Canada, which is awesome.

So that's all. Yeah, you know, we talked offline that we were both very big on this cause. And I think the awareness factor is sensational. But I don't feel as warm and fuzzy about Bell Let's Talk Day as you do. Mike is upset because it's Bell. No, well, first of all, it seems very self-serving. It seems like it's a very cheap marketing. Why is Bell in the hashtag?

Get Bell out of the hashtag. Ask this one thing, honestly. If you can say, before Bell came into the picture, did you really know about it? The day or anything about it? I'm okay with them sponsoring it, but they make it all about Bell. No, they don't. They bring awareness to it, Mike. And I think that's the main thing.

I see your point. I think they're piggybacking on it. I understand that. But you know what? It's about awareness. And they're doing that. Honestly, I knew nothing about the date or the time.

You know what? You take time to think. The lead up into it, everything about it, the date itself. I know. I'm just not as warm and fuzzy on it because it seems like they co-opted a real

important cause and they branded it and then they write off their five cents marketing effort. They can write off all they want. I agree,

Rosa. And I don't like Bell. I mean, what did your company do for mental health? You know, probably a big fat zero. They employed me,

Rosa. Touche. So I think it's awesome. You know, you see so much of the cynical stuff We all know why companies do things Branding, whatever, I don't care

Mental illness sucks And you know what I actually really think has been great About their commercials It is a fact that Many people still think of mental illness As homeless guy Absolutely Homeless guy on the street

And it's, you know, it's not. It's not. It's just. It's everyone. It's the person in the office next to you.

It's your friend. And one thing I thought that was really cool that I read is that about, you know, everybody, getting everybody talking and tweeting,

especially for young people. And I like the fact that they're really pushing the Twitter thing because that is how young people, that's their voice. They use it, right?

Okay, but why does the hashtag have to have Belle in it? It doesn't matter. Why can't it just be generic mental health happiness? It doesn't matter. And I think when you're always focusing on the cynical stuff, I know, I don't like it. It's sort of... It takes away from it.

It takes away from it. It doesn't. Let's just, you know, be good. Just accept it. Let's just accept it and let's just be positive about it. Okay, if you accept the fact it's a marketing effort for Belle. Of course it is.

It is. Of course it is. So they're paying five cents to use their service and then they're writing that off. It just seems so self-serving. But they're doing something. They're bringing awareness, Mike. I think it was a marketing guy.

But it doesn't matter. We accept that, Mike. It doesn't matter. The point is you get people talking about it. One girl said, up until Bell started doing this, and I will say Bell over and over because I do think it's great that they do. One girl said, she goes, you know, up until Belle started doing this, and I will say Belle over and over because I do think it's great that they do it.

She said, I didn't ever talk about how sad I felt all the time. They brought awareness to it. And then I'm getting emails from people, you know, I know how you feel. I feel like that too. And it's like a cloud gets lifted. It's great.

They've brought superstars into it as well. Who's the girl? Claire Hughes. Yeah, she's fantastic. gets lifted. It's great. But they've brought superstars into it as well. Who's the girl I can't remember? Claire Hughes. Claire Hughes. Yeah, she's fantastic. She is. She's great. And they brought her into it.

And when you see someone like her who's done so well and so successful and she suffered from depression, you think, wow, I don't have to be embarrassed. But also, I think it's Michael Landsberg as well. Yeah, he did. He opened up about it. He opened up about it. And they talk about it. I think that they're

getting people and you know what this only started happening when Bell brought it into the picture honestly so we can be cynical you know branding

blah blah blah but anytime any company does anything for charity they're doing it for that so at least someone Rose did my torontoscoop.com write about this

Bell Let's Talk thing it's going to you're almost out of time Rose the day's almost over better late than never no but I've been I've been tweeting I haven't been home this let's bill let's talk day? It's going to. You're almost out of time, Rose. The day's almost over. Better late than never. No, but I've been tweeting.

I haven't been home because I've been doing stuff for my son today, but I've been tweeting all day to get that five cents going. Good. I like the awareness. I won't say nothing more negative on this subject. Right. Okay.

So BlackBerry 10. We haven't broadcast in so long that the BlackBerry 10, we haven't broadcast in so long that the BlackBerry 10 announcement came after we did episode 23. And I saw my friend here, Anthony, BBMing somebody. Is that what I saw?

Yes, absolutely. And I was like, I was in a time machine. It just felt like I was back in time. No, Scott BBMs. My brother BBMs. I know. And I'm telling you,

that's fantastic. I don't know anyone who's still doing it. I used to have a BlackBerry and everyone I knew had a BlackBerry and now I don't see it anymore. I know, and I'm telling you that's fantastic. I don't know anyone who's still doing it. I used to have a BlackBerry, and everyone I knew had a BlackBerry, and now I don't see it anymore. I know lots of people that BB, a BBM still. What BlackBerry has done is just they've sort of, it's a stopgap measure,

although they're going to keep people like me using the BlackBerry. Yeah, that's what I'm going to ask you. I'm glad you're here. They're keeping people like me that are going to continue to use it. I was at a point where I was maybe contemplating whether I would move to either Android or to an iPhone. But with this BlackBerry 10, it shows the BlackBerry users that they're still trying to keep the user out there.

They're still doing things. And I may continue with it. I'm going to see what happens when I do the, I think it's probably a year from now or even less, and see what happens with the new BlackBerry. My question for you two is, is this too little too late? Because the people like you, Anthony, you are holding on, but you're

that, I'd call you the loyal BlackBerry people. And there's a lot out there though, Mike. But it's a shrinking crowd. It is, but now what they've done is they've stopped people like me from bleeding out. Yes, but are they able've done is they've stopped people like me. From bleeding out, yes. But are they able to get anybody currently using Android or iPhone to come back? Mike, it's been a long bleed.

I mean, like, it's been, what, four years? Oh, I know. They lost me. It's not going to happen overnight. And I think that if they continue going on the plan that they're doing, execute it properly, and I believe that they will, they will attract their old people that have left, will be eventually coming back, and even you people that will consider it at least. Because in my opinion, it's too little too late. It'll hold on to you guys that are already still on the platform.

But that's what they needed to do though, Mike. I agree. I think that they need to bring people back who left in the last five years. It's not going to happen overnight. I think that the plan that they're doing right now, I think that they're executing it properly. They took two years to make sure that this was going to be an impact, and they did.

Everybody was talking about it, and it had me looking for it. It had a lot of people looking for it. I know a ton of BlackBerry users that will continue to go with the service because of the BlackBerry 10. Now, that's what they've done. They've stopped the bleeding. They stopped the Nortel issue. They stopped it becoming ground Now, that's what they've done. They've stopped... The bleeding. They stopped the bleeding. They stopped the Nortel issue. They stopped it becoming ground zero.

That's what they've done. Now, it's time to build. Once they've secured this for the next year or so, it will be a time to build. Let's ask somebody who isn't currently aligned with a smartphone OS. Dear Rosie, who has the not-so-smartphone, as discussed in a previous episode, are you considering BlackBerry 10 when you eventually make the leap to smartphone land?

I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to have. You're going to get an iPhone, aren't you? I don't know. It's in your eyes. I don't know. I don't know. You know what? To be honest, I haven't really had a chance to. I need to go into a store and play with all of that. Before that, before the BlackBerry 10, you

probably would have said, okay, it's only going to be iPhone or Android. Yeah, I have to admit, the BlackBerry 10 looks really cool. Apps are not there yet, though. You're going to be missing out. Cool. They're going to be coming, though, Mike. I don't know. And I'm not an app guy, so it's not... You're not an app guy. Yeah, but you're right. And how many apps can you use a day,

honestly? Like, these people... SongPop. I use it every day. Come on. I know, but Skype for sure. I live on Skype professionally too. There's a work requirement there as well. I have to admit, when I saw them, when they showed, I was like, wow, that looks really cool. It looked really, really, really cool.

It definitely would be a consideration. So what's your plan? I mean, obviously you're in no rush, but eventually will you keep us abreast on how this process works for you? I'm very curious because a lot of people are like, I'm an iPhone. I'm already so in the Android world. I can't imagine switching from it.

I want to know what you would do. Yeah, I'm like really loyal to nothing. So it's going to be just quite simply which one I like the best. But you're loyal to the Toronto Star and Bell. I like, I quite like them. I'm just busting in. I don't really know. Yeah, as long as something delivers what I need from it,

then it's got me. And once it stops delivering, then I'm out. So, yeah, we'll see. I still don't know what kind of phone I'm going to get. That's what they wanted everyone to do. You're going to consider it. Absolutely. It looks cool. Absolutely. That's what they want. I still don't know what kind of phone I'm going to get. That's what they wanted everyone to do. You're going to consider it. Absolutely. It looks cool.

Absolutely. That's what they want. I'm not automatically... I love my iPad, but I'm not automatically going to get an iPhone. You know, I actually do... But that would make sense to me. To me, that's how it works to me.

To me, you fall in love with your iPad and now you are in that OS. And essentially, the iPhone has identical OS with the same apps. So to me, you've already embraced an OS. You would just the iPhone has identical OS of the same apps. So to me, you've already embraced an OS. You would just

extend it to the next device. Why not support a Canadian company, though? That's the only reason to go with BlackBerry. That's the only time you've made sense since you went on

the microphone 45 minutes ago, Anthony. That is the biggest plus and the only differentiator that you can get It's supporting a Canadian company. What's wrong with that?

I love that they renamed themselves BlackBerry. It's good for everybody. But if it wrong with that? I love that they renamed themselves Blackberry. It's good for everybody. But if it was a German company, you'd have an iPhone beside you right now. No, I'd still be loyal, depending on what would happen. And if it was something else, it would. It's being loyal to the brand,

and being loyal because it's a Canadian company. What's wrong with saying that? And you know, if your company tomorrow were to say, we're going to start paying for your phone, and they mailed you a Blackberry 10, I'm pretty sure you would just start using the BlackBerry 10. Mike would crack it open. I'm not sure. I might have both.

No, I don't think so. Carrying both is ridiculous. That situation has to happen before I can answer it more honestly, but I don't think it's that simple. If it meant that, I don't believe that you love your Android so much, that if it meant that you didn't have to pay for a phone anymore, that you wouldn't. At my last job, they gave us all BlackBerrys,

and tons of my colleagues carried an iPhone or an Android device with the BlackBerry because they couldn't stand the BlackBerry OS. That is so ridiculous. Tons of them. That is so ridiculous. To them, it's like, what's $70 a month for me to be happy with my smartphone?

That may change. To me, $70 a month is a lot. But that's less than you spend on coffee. They're all app users, though. That's why. I mean, that may change. Yeah, absolutely. Now, prick up your ears, twosome,

because I have something to say. Now, you remember this song when you were younger, right, Anthony? So Reg Presley passed away last week. And I just wanted to say thanks to Reg, who is the lead singer for the Trogs, because when I was like 7, 8, 9, 10 years old, my parents used to buy me this Golden Oldies cassette series from the local, I think it was Petro Canada,

but I can't remember anymore. Shell, maybe, Sunoco. Some gas chain would sell very inexpensive Golden Oldies cassettes, and I collected them as a kid. This is a true story. So I listened to Golden Oldies like crazy. What a great childhood, Mike. Thank you.

I know. By the way, when I think about it, it's like I was raised in the 50s, essentially. 50s and 60s. I was raised in the 50s and 60s because that's the music I heard. And even when I started buying my own music, I was buying stuff like Stray Cats because the rockabilly sound reminded me of what I liked, which was the music I heard. And even when I started buying my own music, I was buying stuff like Stray Cats because

the rockabilly sound reminded me of what I liked, which was the 50s sound. So that's one of the tunes that was on the Golden Oldies cassette and I used to play that one over and over again. Wild Thing by the Trogs. That guy died? He's dead, Rose.

Alright, that's a shame. So he won't be appearing on there. Mike always finds these obscure... It's not shame. So he won't be appearing on there. Mike always finds these obscure... It's not obscure. The troggs. Come on. Did you guys watch the Grammys? I did.

Yes. What did you think of the musical performances? I'll go first. I liked Jack White quite a bit. And I liked the I Will Wait guy, Mumford and Sons quite a bit. Mopford and Sons. I really like mumford and sons anyways the lumineers were fine um i liked the ending one song it is hey ho it is a catchy catchy

i sing it in the showers but i want to say uh no one's talking about i did enjoy seeing uh chuck come out for the closing song which i thought was pretty cool you know besides that i think the vibe of the grammys has got to change i think it's got to go back to New York, go to a smaller venue. It's just so big. You know what? It just doesn't resonate with everyone. Watching on TV might be great with the kids, but it's got to go back to getting that vibe of music back in. I think it needs to be back in New York.

It needs that vibe somehow to be reinstated into the Grammys. I don't think it's a good show anymore. It's kind of true. Really, other than the Oscars, it's really the only one I like to watch. And it's all about the music. What did you think, Rose? Tell us.

If you put the Oscars in an arena, would it be the same? No. I agree. No, you're right. And it is about the way it feels. What did you like from the Grammys and what did you not like?

I liked... You know what? I have to admit, even're right. And it is about the way it feels. What did you like from the Grammys and what did you not like? I liked, you know what, I have to admit, even though I don't like her music, I really liked the opening, Taylor Swift. Oh, Taylor Swift? That's a catchy song. She is what she is.

She's very talented and she's very smart. I can take her or leave her, but I appreciate what she brings. She's a very clever chick. I enjoyed that and I liked the big spectacle of the carnival.

Oh, the Alice in Wonderland? I like stuff like that. Yeah, I thought the costumes, I like really big spectacle stuff. I thought that Oh, the Alice in Wonderland stuff? I like stuff like that. Yeah. I thought the costumes. I like really big spectacle stuff. I thought that was cool. She was lip syncing, right? I have no idea. It felt like it.

I have no idea. I liked the... Oh, God. I don't remember any of their names. But I liked the ensemble that sang the song of the guy that died. Oh, Levon Helm. Yes. Thank you.

I loved that. That was cool. For Bob Marley? That was really cool. That one was... It was terrible. That was Sting and the gang, right? You know what? I liked the Levon Helm one better. I loved that. That was cool. For Bob Marley? That was really cool. That one was kind of... It was terrible. That was Sting and the gang, right? You know what?

I actually felt Sting when Sting... I don't know. I can't... It was terrible. Yeah, I'm like... I just didn't think... Is it me or they started with two songs that didn't belong to Bob Marley?

Was that a tribute to Bob Marley? I don't know. They didn't bring in the Bob Marley music to three songs deep. It was terrible. I agree. It felt a bit off. I liked Rihanna's solo performance. I'm trying to remember. She looked good. I'm. It felt a bit off. I liked Rihanna's solo performance.

I'm trying to remember. She looked good. I'm trying to remember what she sang. It's the song, I Will Stay. Mike wasn't listening to the music. I was so mad at the fact Chris Brown was there. I had trouble with it. Oh, it's so, it's just so, and they kept showing him.

I'm like, stop showing him. He's, ugh, like he's awful. And she's so gorgeous and talented. And when Frank Ocean won, he apparently didn't get out of his seat and then apparently Adele ripped him a new one. How much do you love Adele? Oh, Adele,

there's nothing not to like. She's fantastic. How funny is she? I love the way she's so, you know, she has this voice that is just unbelievable. But then when she talks,

she's so down to earth. She's awesome. Anthony likes her so much. He called her the Rob Ford of music. That's awesome. Anthony likes her so much. He called her the Rob Ford of music. That's how much he likes her. Although her choice of... You make fun of people's weight.

I never do. What are you talking about? Weight? I think Adele looks hot. All the time. You're riding Rob Ford. I didn't even get that. You're making a fat joke?

No, I wasn't making a fat joke. I certainly hope not. Well, guys, I never made a fat joke in my life. Yes, you did, Mike. I know what you're insinuating. No, I like her. I wasn't making a fat joke. I certainly hope not. Well, guys, I never made a fat joke in my life. Yes, you did, Mike. I know what you're insinuating. No, I like her.

I don't even consider her fat. Rosie, did you hear a fat joke? You didn't have to. This is why I don't like Gil Duce. I must say, she made me laugh when she was like,

it's really, really hard, but we make it look so easy. She's just such a, there's just such a lovely way about her. She's fabulous. It'll be funny to see how she comes back

on her next album, though. I know. I want to see how that comes out. How do you top that? It should be fantastic. It'll be hard. It'll be extremely hard. Kelly Clarkson,

I've always loved Kelly Clarkson. Oh, I like her. She did a great job. Yeah, she was good too. She did a great job. She seemed happy. But I have to admit, I PBR it,

and then I just fast forward to the musical performances. That's how I watch it. So, it's good. I did enjoy it. Now, I have to admit, I PBR it and then I just fast forward to the musical performances. That's how I watch it. So it's good. I did enjoy it. Now, I want to, before we close out, I just want to mention that my brother Ryan started a podcast since we last recorded. And it's called Fantasy Sports Hookup. So if you like fantasy sports, you really should check it out.

It's pretty deep in the weeds. I sit here not knowing who they're talking about half the time like the practice roster for the like for the dolphins i'm like i don't know scott's gonna listen to it because he is uh but there's no footy tell him there's no soccer i don't think oh he's into fantasy sports hockey for football for um soccer as well but top right corner of toronto mic.com and tell them to check out fantasy sports hookup and my fiance has a show as well they're called in her shoes because she's she's trying out

to become the new co-host of Toronto Mike and that's her audition tape so tell me what you think you too could start your own podcast Italy today you can't replace Rosie no I've never I've never recorded an episode of Toronto Mike to vote Rosie. That's a fact.

24 episodes deep. I've won it to 100 times. Don't get me wrong. She brings coffee and she's delightful. We're all close. You guys have a great bond. Honestly, it's great to listen to. You're great to listen to, Anthony.

I'm glad you came. It was so fun having you here, Anthony. Thank you. It was so great. Thanks so much for joining us. And that brings us to the end of our show. And you can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike.

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in Mississauga and one in L'Occitane and we're going to eat some right now yes absolutely thanks everyone see you next week thanks for spending

time with us see you soon guitar solo Well, I want to take a streetcar downtown Read Andrew Miller and wander around And drink some goodness from a tin Cause my UI check

has just come in Ah, where you been? Because everything is kind of rosy and green. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the snow wants me today. And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine. And it won't go away, because everything is rosy and green. Well, you've been under my skin for more than eight years