Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toronto Mike'd #83

Episode Date: July 4, 2014

Mike chats with Elvis about recent guests, the Muzzin controversy, the birthday beer, Canadian tennis and soccer hopes, and Nonis nonsense.

Welcome to the 83rd episode of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything, often with a distinctly Toronto flavour. I'm Mike from torontomic.com, and joining me this week is my buddy Elvis. I'm your buddy now. Nice. Oh well, because brother from another mother, I thought I should mix it up. All right. I like it. Same difference.

Do it. How's it going? Fucking good, man. I'm feeling good. It's a good week. What made it a good week? It's just lots of shit going on that's positive. Sports-wise or real life-wise?

Real life-wise. The run-ins going really, really well. Training for the marathon. Milo, Shinjini, Blue Jays, soccer. You look fitter to me. Except for the fucking Leafs are in the shit. But whatever. Hey, we'll dive into sports in a minute.

But you do look fitter. I see it. Thank you, sir. I'm staring at your smaller gut. I appreciate it. So when you get naked at night, does your wife go, can she see a difference? She shall, yeah. She's commented quite a bit actually recently that I look skinny.

I was laying down. Oh, that's cheating. When I look down, I've got to washboard abs. Sure. But I mean, it's still very different than what used to be there. So what's your running running at? Like, what are you doing? Like five days a week? Uh, so the official, uh, program starts on the 14th. For those of you who have run marathons know that there is a, there's a schedule of events,

much like you, uh, you went through with your training for the, uh, the ride. Um, and so that official program starts on the 14th of July. So what I've been doing for the past month and up to the 14th is trying to just build my endurance as much as possible. So not worrying so much about distance and time, even though I do pay attention to it because that's just the competitive nature in me, but just trying to get out on the road as often as I can,

five days a week is what I've been aiming at and just trying to go as long as I can. And certainly in a 5K run, which is sort of my bare minimum amount of time out on the road, I'm still not able to run that 5k without stopping. But also for those marathoners out there, those runners know that that isn't necessarily a result of inadequate fitness, but could be a result of inadequate mental fitness because running is more mental than it is physical. That explains that four-minute mile. That's right.

That's right. We talked about this before, I think. Okay. Yeah, so it's just a matter of getting the confidence back and certainly being almost 38 compared to when I ran my first marathon, which I think I was about 25 or 26. The body is reacting a little bit differently than it did 10 years ago. But that's good. You're building your base and you go from there and you're on schedule and it looks good. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm proud of you. Thank you,

sir. Appreciate it. You're famous for not listening to any episode unless you're on it. Right. I did listen to an episode though. Okay. Cause I want to do a quick recap because it's been a while since you've been here. So since you last sat in that seat, there was, for example, there was a Barb DiGiulio since then. Did you listen to Barb? No, but it's on my phone to listen to. That's close. So that that's as close as many of them have ever gotten. So you were at, uh, we'll talk about this in a minute, but you were at my 40th birthday party. And my brother Steve was very vocal about not enjoying the Barb episode because she didn't give enough.

I think that's what he said. Yes, yes, I heard that. And Steve listens to every episode, so I value his opinion. Which I didn't realize before because I think we've talked about your brothers before. But we talk about, we rarely, we've never spoken poorly about my brothers.

No, I like your brothers a lot, but we've spoken about an incident that I think caused some controversy in the family. With the other brother. He might have destroyed his life, actually. No, come on. Didn't your other brother defend him? He thought that was out of bounds.

He's a very conservative-minded fellow. You crossed the boundaries. I like both of your brothers, and it was good to see both of them. And certainly, hearing them talk about the Barb DiGiulio episode perhaps in a negative light made me want to listen to it even more than I wanted to because I do like Barb DiGiulio a lot and so I really wanted to listen to that.

You know, my opinion, it was very good. Like she was in a good, it was a good natural chat and you know, we can criticize her for not remembering the opening day lineup at the fan, which I think was one of the criticisms Steve had. But, you know, that's a long time ago. And she just hadn't thought about it in a while.

See, now I would probably be like Barb in that way because I have a horrible memory. I don't really remember much of anything, even just the day later. See, that's where I'm good. Like, I have good recall on things. That's why I've probably been blogging at TorontoMike. See, that's where I'm good. I have good recall on things. That's why I've probably been blogging at torontomike.com. Somebody's got to remember when Barba Papa aired on TV Ontario. Yeah. With Simon in the Land of Chalk Drawings.

I have no interest in any of that. And Jeremy the Bear. I remember this stuff, but I don't remember specifics about this. To me, it's ridiculous. I think we've spoken about this before. My mother-in-law has this amazing photographic memory where she can tell you the weather of your third birthday. Oh, that's like Mariel. What's the girl from Taxi?

I don't know. There's an actress on Taxi. I can see her in my head. She's attractive. In real life? In real life. On the show, she was photographed. No, in real life.

Mariel something. Damn this. I don't know why we don't Google shit on this show. But the lady from Taxi has this ability to do what you're describing. Describe what day of the week it was, everything, what you were wearing. Yeah, that's my mother-in-law. It is so crazy. Mary Lou Henner. Mary Lou Henner. It's not even... I was close. Yeah, it's my mother-in-law. It is so crazy. Mary Lou Henner.

Mary Lou Henner. It's not even, I was close. and she would just rhyme off all of the nieces and nephews and grandchildren's birthdays. And then you can dive into what day of the week it was, what the weather was. She remembers the day of the week of, obviously, I guess the day of the week of my wedding is pretty obvious. It was a Saturday. But she would know what the weather is and all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, that's very good. So she could read a science textbook and go in and ace the exam. Well, I don't think it works like that. I think it works like that. I think it's only with completely irrelevant, useless information. So she could go on Jeopardy and ace it. I don't know what, it's ridiculous. Okay, so you're going to listen to the Barb episode.

And then after the Barb DiGiulio episode, I had Freddie P from Humble and Fred. And that's the episode. That's why we did the test before we started today, because that's the episode where everything sounded fine through the headphones, but it turned out it was recording through the external microphone on the MacBook. Now, did you ever hear from Freddie P's agent in criticizing you? Did he ask for his stippin' back or anything? Yeah, actually, he did.

First of all, I had to pay his mileage. He was three kilometers away at the Humble and Fred studios. I still had to pay his mileage. And. He was three kilometers away at the Humble and Fred studios. I still had to pay his mileage. And 58 cents a kilometer. Something like that. So anyway, I don't even know if he listened, but he,

he should because, uh, we, it sounds like we recorded in a bathtub. And I'm sure. I'm taking, you didn't listen to that. No,

I, no interest. I'm sure Stokely had something to say about that. Did he? Well, just, that's not even, and that's not even like an audio guy.

That's me changing the setting in GarageBand. Right. You know, that's my... I don't even... I don't know how it reverted back because I never changed it before. Final episode I want to ask you about is the one I'm most proud of,

which is the one that came out this week, which is the Martin Streak tribute episode. I can't remember if you were a Martin fan or not. I was a casual fan. I wasn't as fanatical about him as some other people were, but it is also another one that I want to listen to because not so much of the content. I'll be honest with you.

I don't necessarily really care what people have to say about Martin Streak, but I think remembering him is important and I would like to see, um, I would like to listen to it because I know that you put a lot of effort into this and this was something that was really important to you and you've been getting a lot of accolades online that I've been noticing. And I think that it's, uh, exciting. Um, and, uh, I want to see, I want to listen to that, to that, to that particular piece of art, I think, because I knew that it was important. It was crafted.

Unlike these, so typically an episode takes... It was a production. You produced that, right? I had to... Well, let's put it this way. Typical episodes like this one take 90 minutes of my life because 60 minutes of us recording and then I got a little bit of testing at the beginning now

and then at the end I do a little work like XML updates and i have to upload it and snip a little bit off the front in the back basically uh a little effort but it's 90 minutes of my life total and that episode the martin streak one i don't know how many hours it took but i had to set up like calls with people like i talked to david marsden on yeah you had like segments right like you have like pre-recorded i want you to listen tell me you think because i i do a little intro and then basically i introduce each person and when it was recorded or whatever and then i play the snippet but a lot of them like some of them are from episodes of toronto mic'd like alan cross freddie p uh andrew stokely

is on there bingo bob uh todd shapiro. Those people came in and did episodes. But others like, do you remember Brother Bill? Yep. Who's now Neil Morrison. And a note on him in a minute. Did you get Fearless Fred? No, he didn't know Todd. He didn't know Martin Streak because he came over in the trade.

They fired Martin and then hired him. Did you get any of the guys from, what is it, 97.7? Oh, who would I get there? Jason Barr? Yeah. No, I didn't get Jason Barr. I didn't reach out to Jason. But I did get people like this guy named Captain Phil,

who was a big part of CFNY in the 90s. And then the one I really wanted and I got was David Marsden, because he's the guy who hired Martin Streak and ran that place in the 80s. And he's still on the air, too, right? He's on the air in my neck of the woods. I'm not sure. I don't know how that works if he does it. I'm sure he does it from his house or something,

but he's on the rock station in Durham region 94.9. Yeah, he might be the only guy in North America who has like free reign over his show. Nobody anymore can actually play what they want. But his deal is he gets, I don't know if it's two hours, but on Sundays he has a Mars Bar Theater or whatever he calls it marsden theater and he can basically he tells me he can play anything he wants well he's not on a station that is a high frequency i mean it's a high enough

frequency i'm not it's not like a community station like i was on but it's not uh you know q107 either so there's likely but it's like a it is like a hits fm FM. Yeah. That kind of... It's a rock station. It's a rock station. You do get it in Toronto. It's like a 97.7 station. Yeah. So that's probably the trade-off, right? If you were to go to Q107... I just think it's independent.

The owner just really admires Marsden and just said, here's the keys for a couple hours. There's a trinity of stations that are owned by that same owner. The Rock? Yeah, they're the FM station. I think they have 2AM stations there.

Interesting. So I'm interested to listen to it. And for those of you who haven't listened to it yet either that are listening, even if you weren't a fan of Martin Streak or you don't know who Martin Streak was, support Toronto Mike in the effort that he put into it and take a listen to it when you've got a chance. Because I think based on what I've heard and and seen about people on talking about it online it was a dandy so fun not fun actually I was gonna call it a fun fact but it's not a fun at all but

so I talk on the phone I record a conversation with uh brother Bill who is actually Neil Morrison and at the time we're talking and this was like two weeks ago he was a uh popular dj on the chorus owned station cfox in vancouver so he went from cfny to cfox but it works for the same company it's chorus so everything's fine 20 something years he was working for chorus and we record our conversation and at some time between recording that chat and airing that episode like i put it out like canada day or something he was fired so 20 plus years at chorus and they fired him crazy well that's radio and we were taught yeah it's radio and we were talking about martin streak and one of the interesting things about martin streak is that

20 plus years at chorus and they fired him it was just uh interesting it's a crazy fucking business man i mean if if anyone wants to get into radio i remember a couple of my mentors 20 plus years at Chorus and they fired him. It was just interesting. It's a crazy fucking business, man. I mean, if anyone wants to get into radio, I remember a couple of my mentors telling me that... Run the other way? Yeah, you probably should not get into it. And I'm sure that a lot of people say that about any profession, right?

But I mean... But mainly this kind, but I think the same with newspapers because I see... Well, can you even get a job in newspapers anymore? It's true. I mean, there's less... Now the grid is gone.

I guess the grid didn't make its way to Oshawa. Is the Globe striking yet? I do know that they rejected a deal. Did you see the picture of them putting up barriers around the building? No, I didn't see that. I just know it's tough times in the newspaper. Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what happens at the Mother Paper of Canada. And quick note on guests on Toronto Mic,

is that next week, Aaron Davis will be sitting in that seat. Nice. Is it worthy? Is this studio worthy of the legendary Aaron Davis? No, but I think she'll enjoy it anyway. Is it bad? I've never heard Aaron Davis on the radio.

Like I know of her and I just know a lot about her. I know her from a Blue Jays song, for example. I never heard CHFI in my life, I don't think. Unless it was in a dentist chair. Come on. That's a lie. It's not a lie. When in my car did I switch over to 98.1?

I'm sure you've been in a car with somebody else who had it on. I'm saying it's possible. I just don't remember hearing any CHFI. Well, I'm sure you have been. That would be a ridiculous statement. Cause who's car am I in, in the morning when Aaron Davis is coming? Your mom, when you were a kid? She was a chum FM. She was a big Roger Rick and Marilyn fan. I guarantee you at some point in time, you were in a car with 98.1. Well, I might have to tune into before I chat with her, but I'm looking forward to Aaron Davis coming in. She seems like a nice gal. Uh, okay. Let's talk about the birthday party. So the other

people that are on the list now that a free agency is is I'm going to be reaching out to Elliot Freeman. So hopefully, if anyone is listening to this. Yeah, he's part of the Rogers deal. Elliot, I had lunch with you one time. And not just him and I. There was a bunch of people. But we sat across from one another. We had a dialogue.

We had a conversation. So I'm going to be reaching out to you, Elliot. And hopefully, I saw him walking down the street the other day why didn't you tackle him because he was talking to a girl and I think it was his wife maybe hopefully otherwise that would be really awkward were they holding hands no no but they seemed to be in a conversation and I didn't want to be a fanboy so the speaking of reaching

out Jim Lang wanted badly to come in after the Greg Brady episode and last correspondence was he was going to like tell me when he could make it to this neck of the woods and then he went quiet so well how hard do I like push that well I know you don't like me in here when there is a guest uh because you like to do them solo but given that I was here for Greg Brady if I could make it I would love to be here for Jim okay well I don't have I will I will let you but I also know that that might that might be difficult with my travel

schedule but I like Jim as we've talked about many times, I'm a big fan of Jim Lang and it would be neat to meet him. And Jeff Merrick promised me Strombo. In fact, for this Martin Streak episode, he did try to get Strombo to do a phoner with me because Strombo apparently spends his summers in LA like cool people do. Oh. So he's in LA right now.

Well, he may not be in LA though this summer because he's got to get ready for Hockey Night in Canada, right? What does that entail exactly? Well, I'm guessing that there's a whole bunch of research and he's got to like, you know, get his wardrobe and all that kind of stuff. I don't know. I don't know where he is right now,

but I bet you he's in California. That's my guess. Okay, the birthday party. I had a full year. Is this like the Howard Stern birthday bash? A little bit different spectrum. Well, there's a lot of good content, but most of it has to stay in at the birth of Vegas.

It's got to stay in the Vegas. But one thing I wanted to talk to you about was last episode I recorded with Monica, my wife, because I woke up to a text from you that said, I can't make it. Correct. First time in a long time. but yes, I did that. So I grabbed the closest warm body.

Yep. And I might have accused you of something you didn't do. So let me just set the stage here, okay? Now I know how humble it feels. So, yeah, you came to the party with beer, which is excellent. I came with two six-packs, a Heineken and a Mill Street Organic. Right. Very nice, because Heineken's my favorite beer.

And when I received the Mill Street Organic, I assumed it was you playing a very, very funny joke. I was so impressed by the sharpness and cleverness of your humor because I thought it was the same six-pack I brought to your house last, what was it, August or whatever? July. July, for your 40th birthday. For your 40th birthday. Now, I appreciate the compliment that I could possibly pull something like that off.

Because it was clever, right? And I'm not suggesting that I wouldn't try and do that because I have re-gifted things like that before. However, where I was insulted was that you suggested that I gave you year-old beer. And that really ticked me off because you don't fuck around with beer, man. Right right but i wasn't even thinking of it as something i would drink like i just assumed you were starting this wonderful tradition you don't waste that shit

so i gave you this first of all you wouldn't drink year-old beer because i would if it was in my skunky but what depends how you stored it like no it's gross. Monica had old Heinekens in her garage when she moved. And what I did is I turned them upside down in the fridge. And just as like a practice. And then I tried one and it tasted fresh. By the way, that wasn't year old. That might have been two year old Heinekens. That's disgusting.

Beer goes bad, i think they say in 180 days 180 days i'm gonna serve you year old beer and see it goes skunky i mean certainly maybe you hit the maybe hit a diamond in the rough or something but uh beer is freshest when it's kept cold obviously and it uh okay and it's and it's fresh so uh yeah but i was the reason why yeah because i went off on you on on twitter i thought you were on your blog uh i mean i wasn't up because i wasn't upset you're doing it i thought you were fucking genius i'm not upset i was upset at the notion that i would waste beer like that like that would just be disgusting so uh and wrong because you i thought you know the heineken is

like so you did bring me something to drink yes so. And then you brought the Mill Street. Liz, that was my gift to Mike for his 40th birthday. By the way, most people didn't bring anything, as I predicted. But shout out to Mofo, who brought the $25 Cineplex Odeon gift card. Nice. So he's the champion of the day. It's the same gift he gave you for your 16th birthday. That's beautiful. By the way, this could quite do.

Do I get into a movie for $25 now? Okay. Well, hold on. Okay. Does Mofo listen to this? He do i get into a movie for 25 bucks okay well hold on okay does mofo listen to this he might he's a long long you have a newborn baby at home and he gave you movie gift cards like when the fuck are you gonna go see a fucking movie i could take what i i go with my kids monica watches the newborn and i have two other kids all right okay you can go use it quickly all right fair enough fair enough i take it back mofo yeah absolutely i still think on the surface that seems like a pretty funny gift like here's a fucking movie gift card in fact uh i might be taking them to uh how to train your dragon oh nice did they see the first one yep oh so this is a plan right now so seth rogan was

number one in the uh or not uh was no not seth rogan uh the other guy jonah hill was number one in the, or not, no, not Seth Rogen, the other guy. Jonah Hill was number one and number two a couple weekends ago with 22 Jump Street and How to Train Your Dragon. The guy's also multi-Academy Award nominee. Yeah. He's a machine. Two times. He's a machine. Okay, so the other thing I thought was cute is the card.

So that's part of, this one, this was actually you being funny, right? Because I just want to clarify. That is my, that's my thing. It was the most feminine card. So that's part of it. This was actually you being funny, right? Because I just want to clarify. That's my thing. It was the most feminine card. I'll give you a get well card when it's someone's funeral. And you'll draw a cock on a RSVP. I will draw a big penis on an RSVP card. I will give you a feminine card for your birthday.

That's my thing. I don't like cards. I think cards are ridiculous. But the girls like to write their names now. So they wrote their names on your cards. Yeah, your girls were very cute. And I hope they had fun. So what did people think?

Tell me. Be honest. I won't be offended. It was fun. Obviously, there was a soccer match going on. So there was a little bit of interruption. There was definitely an inside crowd and an outside crowd at times. Yeah, we broke into two groups.

That happens. I stayed outside because I was a host. That definitely happens. Howard and his lovely girlfriend made an appearance, which was nice, with their dog. Did you think it was strange? Your music selection, however, was a little ridiculous. So you're going to skip over the Howard and Amanda thing?

What am I going to say? I just wondered if you thought it was interesting that it was a drop-by on the way to a dog park. Like usually. That's fine. Okay. Okay. Tell me about the music section.

So it was pretty awesome. You have this outlet, this electrical outlet by your tree, which is in the middle of your backyard. Yeah. Which is ingenious, whoever put it there, because I know you didn't. No. Someone dug it underground. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's no way that you're doing it's amazing and you had a you had like a like a uh a speaker a docking station speaker docking station with your your

ipad your ipod plugged into it and it was wedged in between two branches on the tree and the iPod was dangling down. Right, right. It was just this like, it was very much a trailer park type of setup here. But your music selection for a party. This was a playlist that was shuffled. It was your 40th birthday party. I get it.

We're all adults, but we also, there was as many adults as there were. There was also as many children ranging from the age of one month to, you know, 10 or whatever it was. That's true. And there were so many music, so many songs that there was the fuck and shit and cock and balls.

Can I just say something? The C word. Can I say something? It was an interesting choice of music. Believe it or not, that playlist was the g-rated family friendly playlist i honestly can't say that a playlist you'll have to be more specific which with songs because maybe one f-bomb in a song i forgot was in there but i really did avoid the obvious there was a time well you didn't play fuck the police or right exactly you didn't play that i'd give

you that but there was uh there was a couple of times where people in the audience or people at the party remember what tune i can't it was a hip-hop song it was probably like was it like a nikki minaj song because there's one where she goes higher than a mother effer or something and i thought i had the censored version i can't remember and it might be shell told me i had the real version but it's not it's not a big deal i mean it's not like as if my kids haven't heard those words but there were a lot of young people from burlington who i don't think have heard those words. I mean, see, this is the thing. When you're having, and this is, I guess, a dilemma that parents have to sort of figure out in their head.

While you may be okay with having those words in songs with your kids, other people may not. I know this, though. I'm with you. I tried to get rid of the swears. It was pretty fucking funny. It's hard. You know, it's hard because that one song I'm referring to, I tried to get rid of the swears. It was pretty... It's hard. You know, it's hard because that one song

I'm referring to, Supernova or something, it's a popular, like, top 40 Nicki Minaj hit. And in the version on the radio, it goes, it's higher than a mother, mother, or something like that.

But Michelle did come to me and say that I had the version that said mother effer. And then she did skip it every time it would come on shuffle. She did skip it. But yeah yeah I did try to like I found the swears I might not have got them all I also thought it was funny that uh

the vegetarians in the uh at the party were basically uh left to eat grass there was the kale salad and eat there was a kale salad right but that also I think that had cheese in it didn't it I don't think they were that kind of vegan but you're right okay so everybody's there everyone's eating hot dogs hamburgers and pulled pork sandwiches and treats and stuff a lot of food i had a lot of leftovers but the last couple to arrive were vegetarian but i didn't actually uh so they asked me if i had a vegetarian option, and I looked at them and said, is hamburger vegetarian? Is hot dog vegetarian? And I didn't have one.

So I did. Yeah, I think, believe it or not, the woman, Michelle, her name is, brought her own vegetarian. She's smarter than I was. I'll tell you that much. I had a lot of food. I didn't have a lot of vegetarian stuff,

but I did have a kale salad. There was something else that was funny. I didn't have a lot of vegetarian stuff, but I did have a kale salad. There was something else that was funny. I can't remember. Was your mom's sister there, your aunt? Yeah. They look very, very similar. Okay, there's a large family. A bunch of family members came from Burlington to this party.

And that's where a lot of the kids came from because like Jen, my cousin, has three kids and then Mark's got a kid. But yeah, yes, Maura, my Aunt Maura, who is my mom's sister, was in the backyard. She was in the backyard and she was chatting up a storm, yucking it up. Yep. It was a good time. It was a good time.

We enjoyed ourselves and the kids certainly are in love with Michelle, obviously. Very nice. Michelle is very nurturing. Very nice. Michelle is very nurturing. The other thing I wanted to chat with you about is this Muzzin controversy. And I got to set this up too, but okay. I have a friend and I guess he's your friend now. I'm not sure, but maybe his name is, you guys helped me move.

So maybe that's when you bonded, but his name is Mike Muzzin. Mike Muzzin is not related to Los Angeles Kings forward Jake Muzzin. Right. And at some point, and I don't remember where it started on Twitter or Facebook, but I think Mike Muzzin just said he had, you know, he's hoisted two Muzzins won two cups now. And all I did was maybe I'm a dick for mentioning this fact. I pointed out the fact that Mike Muzzin, not Mike Muzzin, Jake Muzzin, did not suit up in the playoffs for the Kings the first year they won the cup. So all I was trying to convey is he was a healthy scratch for all playoff games

the first year the Kings won the cup. This is just a fact. And at some point, this became a fun thing for you to stir. You were stirring the shit. It was really upsetting Muzzin for some reason. And I became this, like, denier. I wasn't denying the fact he played a few, like, a handful of regular season matches the first year the Kings won the Cup.

I was just stating the fact that Jake Muzzin has never played a Stanley Cup final until this season, the second time the Kings won the Cup. So a couple of things. Yes. I don't think anyone fucking cares. He's got two rings. Whether he played or not is irrelevant.

Well, I don't know. I don't care about rings. I'm not denying he might have got a ring. I was just stating the fact he didn't play in the playoffs. Muzzin's point was that he has two Stanley Cup rings. Who the fuck cares if he played or not? That's the point.

My point was... And then the other point is that you're feeding the troll. It's amazing to watch. Like, just shut the fuck up. The only reason why Muzzin is going off and after you is because you keep responding. It's amazing. It's so beautiful.

I should point out, I did ask Muzzin if I could call him now and get his like get him on to clarify the discrepancy or whatever uh he refused to come on to discuss this he's so offended by this topic but in my defense i just want to say i just want to say that mike muzzin does suggest that jake muzzin played in the playoffs the first year the kings won the cup and it's just erroneous it It is a lie. But why do you care? It is a Doug and Rob Ford grade A lie. Why do you care?

He has two rings. The initial debate started off with him having... It's so Google-able. That was never a debate. I never argued he could have two rings. That's what I don't understand. Whether or not he played is irrelevant. But why is that a point? It doesn't matter. Don't you think that matters?

Let's say you played four. I don't know the number. How many regular season he did not play. But why is that a point? It doesn't matter. He has two rings. Don't you think that matters? No. You get a ring because you played, let's say you played four, I don't know the number. How many regular season games did you play? Let's say you played five. If I'm Jake Muzzin and I'm never going to be a first or second line guy,

I don't fucking care whether or not I play or not. I have two rings. I have one ring where I played, one ring where I don't. At the end of the day, it doesn't fucking care. My grandsons and granddaughters are going to grow up

seeing these big fucking rings on my hand and ask me what it's all about. I was part of the day, it doesn't fucking care. My grandsons and granddaughters are going to grow up seeing these big fucking rings on my hand and ask me what it's all about. I was part of the team. I was on the roster. I don't deny. So it's not like as if he's going to ever, you know, he's ever going to be anything more than he already is. So he might be pretty good.

He might be a second round guy, a second line guy. He's got two rings. That was the original point. I don't deny Jake Muzzin his two rings. He has two rings. Period. That's it. That's got two rings. That was the original point. I don't deny Jake Muzzin his two rings. He has two rings. Period. That's it. That's where the debate ends. No, because when Mike Muzzin says that Jake Muzzin

did play playoff games the first season and you can Google it. Go to HockeyDB or go to NHL.com. This is a fact. You're not arguing with me. You do know he didn't play any I don't care. I've never looked. I don't really care. The debate to me is a dumb one. I wish you'd let me call him now. debate is he does he has two rings he has two fucking rings yes he has two rings he also did not play in the playoffs i don't does it they're both true but they're both true

would you care they're both would you care if the leafs won the cup to me it's different who played and who didn't i think he did prouder He will be right. But Jake is prouder of his second ring than his first ring. You don't know. He was on that ice in a court of law that is evidence

that is not submitted. I can probably ask him via Twitter. And and who cares? He has two rings. You have none. I have none. I have none.

Most people have none. He has two. All right. Give him his due. He's got two rings. I don't deny him his due. The best part of the story is I actually like Jake Muzzin more than Mike Muzzin does. Did you hear that?

Mike Muzzin doesn't like him. He thinks he's overrated. It's so great, though. You keep feeding him. It's so, and I feel bad for talking about this because I don't ever want it to end. But you do stir the shit. Of course I do. That is my fucking job.

It would die if you didn't go in and fucking poke it. It's going to make muzzet. You guys start and then I go in for the kill. It's not like I'm starting this fucking debate. You're both retarded. Really. And you both have ridiculous mayoral candidates that you're gunning for. First of all.

Go fuck both of you. Someone has to win the mayoral race. Yes. That word is hard to say. Can you say it? Mayoral. Someone has to win the mayoral race. Yes. That word is hard to say. Can you say it? Mayoral. I can't say it. Mayoral.

That race, someone has to win that race. It's finally a word that I can say that somebody else can't. It's amazing. Mayoral. Mayoral. Mayoral. Mayoral. Mayoral.

May all your days be sunny, boy. All right, let's move on from that. Let's talk tennis for a minute because, you know, we're tennis aficionados. So... I hope people pick up. All right, as we record, I wish we weren't on a stupid commercial for Pinties. Do you want to know what the score is?

All right, so as we speak, Milos Ranic is in the semifinals against some upstart named Roger Federer. Right. Last I saw, Federer was up one set to nothing. You can now make that two sets to love. I forgot to say love. Just like in soccer, you're supposed to say nil.

Well, no, I think it's a little bit different than soccer. I think it's supposed to be two to love. Love is the actual game. Right, right. So, no, no, no. I think love is what zero is called. Whereas in soccer, nil is just sort of an English term. Is that pretentious to say nil?

So, as of right now, it is two sets to love for Federer. But Milos is leading two games to one in the third set. But are they on serve? Because what I've learned about male tennis is breaking serve is everything. Correct. So, if they're on serve that two one doesn't mean anything to me i don't know that the score app doesn't tell me that okay we'll have to see what's okay we have it muted in the background here maybe they'll shut up so uh but let's that's

fine let's say federer wins that means we had in the open era whatever that means in modern times this is the first canadian male to make a semi-final of a grand slam event i think the open era means when they had four when when the the the open tournaments were recognized as majors i think that's okay so that but you know that would be unto itself that is amazing to me as a guy who suffered through decades of shitty male single tennis players uh where we had so few hopes there was a couple of women who would come up and maybe get to a quarterfinal like patricia he i remember and a few of these folk these ladies uh the bigger news is on the female side the open era began in 1968 when the grand slam tournaments agreed to allow professional

players to compete with amateurs. That's a key change. Okay. Just like in the NHL, the open era began in 1968 when they decided to have more than six teams. Okay. So on the woman's side, Eugenie Bouchard. Jeannie. Jeannie.

Jeannie. What do they call them? Jeannie Army. Jeannie Bouchard is in the finals, which is amazing. First time ever. Yeah. Of any Grand Slam tournament, correct?

Yep. That a Canadian has been in the final. Well, it's the first time a Canadian's been in the final, and on the men's side, we already have set the new high for the first time a man has been in a semifinal. Correct. So on both sides, we set records. This is singles.

Of course, because Daniel Nestor's won many Grand Slam titles. Yes. And there's a Canadian in the finals this year as well. I believe Daniel has won the, what do they call it when you win all four? Grand Slam. Grand Slam. He's won the Grand Slam. I believe so too.

He's amazing. So we're just talking singles. Correct. Isn't that awesome? I love it because I love to root for Canadians in any sport. I'll root for a Canadian. And I can't believe I can watch the Wimbledon final and there's a Canadian I can root for Canadians in like, you know, any sport I'll root for a Canadian. And I can't believe I can watch like the Wimbledon final and there's a Canadian I can root

for in that match. It's pretty amazing that all of the hype in the last couple of years have been around Milos. And then in the last, what, say six to ten months, we started to hear about this Jeannie. Right. And she's just rocketed up to the point where now people are saying that her sort of

ceiling is much higher than Miloš's. She could be number one one day. It's amazing to have both of these folks in the top ten. And Jeannie, she'll be in the top five, I'm sure, at the end of this tournament. Yeah, she's been in every Grand Slam semifinal so far. It's craziness. Craziness. And she's in the final.

It's very exciting. And certainly, you know, for me, you mentioned that growing up, it was Boris Becker and Steffi Graf. For me, I was very much in the Steffi Graf camp, but I was more in the Andre Agassi and Pete Sampras. Yep, yep. I liked Agassi more than Sampras. Sampras was too boring for me.

Pistol Pete. Yeah. He was great. But this is exciting. I mean, and he's playing against, He was great. But this is exciting. I mean, and he's playing against, you know, arguably, this is arguably the golden age of men's tennis where you have such an amazing roster of guys playing,

which is going to make things more difficult for Milos. But this gentleman is on the downward side. Like he's in his 30s, so he doesn't have much. Right. So Federer doesn't have much time left. But you still have guys that, you know, like you have Nadal, you have Djokovic, you've got, you know, a couple other guys.

But if he could be a consistent, like if he can, like he's already a top 10 guy, like if he can stick in the top 10, that gives you like somebody to root for. Totally, yeah. Every tournament he could theoretically be in the semis. And every time he wins, I'm sure you're like me, you must hear in your head, another game for Milos. Another win for Milos.

I think it's game. Is it win or game? You got to Google that. I think it's game. But only because I share the clip on Twitter every time he wins. It's fucking great. Yeah, it's amazing. So tennis is good.

Now I need to talk to you about the other sport that's happening right now. It's another game for Milos. Another game for Milos. Okay. So Germany is leading France in the World Cup. I think it's 1-0 right now. At halftime. At halftime.

So you're a soccer guy, and I need to ask you some questions. Go for it. I'm here. I'm happy to fill in for John Molinaro. I don't know who that is, but I am into this World Cup, and I root for TFC. The best World Cup ever. Because there's lots of goals, right?

Teams are playing attacking soccer. Exciting soccer. There's lots of young guys that are playing. And it has produced some of the best quality soccer that we've ever seen. Okay, now I want to talk about the quality soccer in this country. Here's my question.

As a guy who doesn't really follow the national team but would like to see Canada in the quality soccer in this country here's my question as a guy who doesn't really follow the national team but would like to see canada in the world cup for obvious reasons same reasons i want to see you jenny and uh milo in you know grand slam finals what's the deal with canada's team are we ever going to make a world cup like what the hell's going on there tell me this was a topic that came up on your blog before the world cup and i answered in the uh i think i was one of the only people who said that i was optimistic because i think that canada has a great group of players right now and uh provided that their new coach is is one that can actually coach them the way that they should be coached as a way to as opposed to the way in which they want to be coached or the way in which he wants to coach them.

See, coaching in soccer is interesting, and I guess it's like hockey where you hire a coach who has a particular style, right? And you either have players that can play to that style or there's a big failure if that coach can't alter his style. And for whatever reason that really comes through in soccer more than a lot of other sports um but do we have the talent like what the talent my my opinion was that the talent the talent is there provided we have the right manage the right management however after witnessing what conca calf teams have done

in this particular World Cup with a very strong showing by Mexico, finally showing us that they can play together as a team and not as a bunch of individuals. Honduras, not necessarily the greatest tournament, but still a strong squad. Then you've got teams like the United States who impressed a lot of people

and I think are a really solid team. But Costa Rica, huge. Is it Costa or Costa? Well, I don't a really solid team. But Costa Rica, huge. Is it Costa or Costa? I don't know. These things do not bode well for Canada. Because these are teams that Canada will need to beat in order to qualify. That's my question. So in this geographical region, how many teams get to the World Cup?

Well, it changes. What's it called again? CONCACAF. CONCACAF. And there's four teams that make it to the World Cup? Well, it changes. What's it called again? CONCACAF. CONCACAF. And there's four teams that make it to the final. Even though you named five. No. Honduras, Mexico, US, and Costa Rica.

My apologies. Okay. So what are other good teams that were left out? So there's a couple of things that need to happen in order for Canada to advance. One is we need to get better tactically and strategically. We need to have some of these teams fall back a little bit. We need to have a little bit of luck. And if anything, there's a constant renegotiation of the number of slots allocated to the different regions.

And CONCACAF has been pushing for years to get a fifth spot as opposed to just four. We could take one from Asia or Africa. Correct. They don't deserve it. Correct. The idea, though or the way fifa looks at it is is let's give another slot to asia because there's a greater population there there's a greater upside right um the one thing the one big variable in all of this is the idea that qatar Qatar, Qatar, they call it Qatar. The one big variable is that Qatar is rumored to lose their 2022 bid. And the second place bidder was the United States. However,

Canada is also putting together, rumor has it, a strong bid for the 2026 World Cup. There is a rumor out there that says FIFA will not award the Qatar World Cup to the U.S., but they will award the Qatar World Cup to the U.S. and Canada as part of a joint bid, which would then mean that Canada would get into the World Cup. So you get in if you host? Correct.

So it's like the Memorial Cup. You're automatically qualified if you... You know, I didn't know that. So it's a big deal. I mean, for Brazil, it's not a big deal. No wonder Brazil got in this year. It's not a big deal for Brazil, right because they're going to get in and when italy and germany but for qatar wherever you say that country that would be a huge deal for

cutter big deal for south korea and japan right uh you know big deal for south africa because obviously they're not here this year so team it's generally used as a way to reward regions rewards uh you know reward the different conferences conferences, that kind of thing. But you're right. Mexico, I watched all their matches and I thought they played very well. USA played very well. Mexico hasn't played really well since the 80s.

I didn't know that. I just assumed they were decent. I mean, they're always a strong team, but they always seem to play like individuals as opposed to a team. And Costa Rica played very well. You're right. Other than Honduras,

the other three countries were very well. Right. Possibly, they could all still be in the final eight, theoretically. So if you're Canada, the best case scenario for Canada, of course, would have been for all of those teams to finish in last place in their group because now suddenly that gives you hope as you go into qualification. But the way Canada sort of looks at qualification is that they're never going to beat the U.S. and Mexico

in terms of overall points in a longer term qualification tournament. But you can beat the likes of Honduras and Costa Rica and some of these other islands, Jamaica. Okay. And the other one I think of is Trinidad and Tobago. Like they've been decent in the past. Sure. Yep. They tend to finish sort of.

But you're still optimistic even though I've lost all hope just during this conversation. You're still optimistic, even though I've lost all hope just during this conversation. Jeff Blair was on the radio this morning, and he asked the audience, is Canada going to qualify in the next 20 years? And I changed the channel. I'm like, who the fuck knows, man? That's true. In 20 years, you could have the Sidney Crosby of soccer come out of this country. What a stupid question.

But I get that he has to fill time. But yeah, I'm still optimistic. I mean, they're still good quality Canadian players and they're getting better. And the MLS certainly is helping us get better. But it is discouraging to see how well these teams are playing because these are teams that we have to beat. Who's going to win this World Cup?

Oh, man. There's a lot of parity, right? Yeah. There was a lot of upsets. You got like Spain and Portugal and England and Italy going out early, but that's still left the likes of Germany and France. Like we're watching today. You've still got the Netherlands.

You've still got Argentina and you still have, who's the other team that I'm forgetting on the other side, Brazil. So theoretically you could have a semifinal of Brazil versus Germany or France and then Netherlands versus Argentina. And that is, that's an all-star Final Four. You've got some big names in there. Who knows? I mean, for me, my money would be in Argentina.

Argentina and Brazil in the final, with Argentina winning 3-1. See, I think Colombia beats Brazil today. Wow. That's my prediction. So here's another prediction that I heard on the radio. Brazil goes out before the final. There is civil unrest in Brazil. Because there was a big debate.

Might be civil unrest anyway. Well, there was this big debate as to why Brazil, which is a country that has a very wide gap between rich and poor, spent $14 billion and now highway overpasses are falling down and stuff. It's a shitty work. So you spend all this money and then they don't even get to the final. They don't even win the fucking thing.

Like that, that is, that's a recipe for disaster. So we should root for Brazil today. For humankind, perhaps, we may want to root for Brazil. And the big guy on Columbia has, it's spelt like, it looks like James, which is my first born's name, James.

But they, you know, in Spanish, it's hummus. So I'm going to start calling my son hummus. I think that's cool. Amazing. Quick on soccer. The thing I like the most about soccer is the lack of ads. So let's say it's a 45-minute half and then some injury time.

We're going to play that without breaking for commercial. I freaking love that. You know what? The other thing I really like like and it's to that point yeah you want to watch a game you know you need two hours right from beginning to end provided there's no injury time or extra time and then penalties you got two hours in and out that's yeah not like a like a basketball match it's like if there's 18 seconds left i'm right because we recently talked about my mom watching raptor games with us 18 seconds left my mom will be like

oh good i'll be going home in a minute and i'll be like well uh no you won't and a half an hour later that time might expire but yeah i do love that so i love that but but on that note though the one thing i'm not loving as a guy who's sort of never watched a lot of soccer except for world cup and maybe the odd euro cup match and going to tfc matches with you this is what i don't love i don't love how they manage the clock because i don't like how arbitrary it feels in injury time like sometimes i'll see four minutes and sometimes at the four minute mark he'll blow the whistle but i think it was the italy match i'm not sure what it was but there was a match where i was i was it was close and it was like they went like 40 seconds over for no good reason like it just seemed arbitrary of when this uh ref was going to blow the whistle

on the injury time. Well, that's the beautiful part of soccer. It just felt like they were giving Italy a chance to tie it. No, there is time on the clock that is, it's a little bit better than it was before. Now you know how much time it was supposed to be. In the past, it was up to the referee's discretion.

But then if you're going to do that and say, okay, five minutes, and assuming there's no injuries in injury time, which just complicates things, why not blow the whistle exactly as it hits five minutes? Well, I think the point is that you're supposed to blow it at a point where it's not going to impact the outcome of the game. Is that true? Because I don't know that.

If they're just running up the field, like if they're setting up to score. You're going to give them a chance to score? Yeah, don't blow the whistle when the guy's going to fucking kick the ball. See, that's the part that bothers me. Let him kick the ball and then... bothers me because it isn't an exact science right you could argue that there was time wasted somewhere down the road okay but well i guess i guess if i were gonna change anything i might like maybe instead of injury time maybe you stop the clock when somebody when you stop the play i think the bigger thing to fix is people

diving in the penalty box yes because if that's true. Who was it? Netherlands beat, was it Mexico? Robin. Wasn't it Robin who was tripped? Yeah, but was it Mexico that they beat? It might have been. Yeah, they were losing 1-0. They got a penalty kick in injury time?

Yeah, they scored in the 88th minute and then the 90th minute. It's just, you know, that kind of shit is brutal. Yeah, it was a Dutch. It doesn't look good. Okay, so there's our first ever Toronto Mike soccer update. Bring in instant replay for plays in the box like that. You heard it here first, folks. I'm sure other people have said it.

I wanted an update on you cutting the cord. Oh, yeah. Because I get... Tell me how it's going. By cutting the cord, we're referring to the fact you told Rogers to F off. Sure, not in so many words, but yeah. Okay.

So we're without cable and we use over the air antenna and stream online. And we had a couple of hiccups because we had a little bit of a technical issue with the antenna. But so far, so good. We'll watch. My wife will be watching. So you're seeing World Cup matches at home. Correct. On CBC.

And they're better than I get it because it's like, well, you said I get compressed or something? Uncompressed. It's uncompressed. Now, CBC's a bad example because they don't transmit 1080p over the air. So you get it as like the 4x3 or whatever that is? 780p.

No, no, no. It's still high def, but it's not the highest def. All the other stations are 1080. But you're watching these, Matt. Are you able to watch, like, would you be able to watch Ingujeni Bouchard tomorrow morning? It's on high def, but it's not the highest def. Okay. All the other stations are 1080. But you're watching these, Matt. Are you able to watch, like, would you be able to watch Ingujeni Bouchard tomorrow morning? It's on NBC, right? So, yes, we would get NBC. Yeah, it is on NBC.

Now, NBC is a little bit tougher because it is a little bit further away, but, yeah, we would be able to watch that. And Milos right now, my, you know, Mrs. Elvis should be watching that on NBC 2.1. Oh, and a little update, a live update, which won't be live for anyone, is that they're on serve, it looks like, in the third set. But it's going to be very difficult for our boy Milos

to come back in this match. You never know. It has to go five now for Milos. Did you ever watch The Royal Tenenbaums? I've never seen that movie, and I've heard that I would love that movie. I laugh out loud. I can watch it for the tenth time I laugh out loud I can watch it like for the 10th time and laugh out loud throughout this movie way better than your

favorite movie for Christmases Royal Tenenbaums has a scene like a tennis scene that I just want you to watch the movie so we can talk about it like a scene where Luke Wilson's character is playing tennis and it just makes me laugh I'll add it to my list do it up

what else is going on I want to quickly ask your opinion on something it's been so long since we recorded but many weeks ago I wrote I just wrote a little entry like I do tens of thousands of times throughout the last decade I wrote an entry about

how I felt the SkyDome in hindsight the SkyDome was a mistake something to that effect how I wish we had built something closer to what they did in Baltimore. That's all I was writing. I don't know if you remember this at all. We've talked about this before, haven't we? See, I have a note that we haven't talked about this.

Maybe you... It might have been a tangent on another conversation. I mean... Maybe I didn't delete my note. Hindsight is 20-20, right? I mean, at the time, the SkyDome was fucking revolutionary. But I agree.

And I'm very, very... I loved it at first. It took about five years before it kind of lost. Five years later, at the time, the Skyrim was fucking revolutionary. But I agree. And I loved it at first. It took about five years before it kind of lost. Five years later, I felt like, well, maybe this is not the best. Now, was that because the Jays sucked? Well. I think it's compounded together. I think if the Jays were a winning team, we wouldn't fucking care.

Like now, would you care? Like, does it prevent you from going to a game? No, but it would never prevent me because I go to the games to see the Blue Jays. Some people say that. This is more about, like, my opinion that this concrete monstrosity feels out of date. Like, it feels like if you were going to build a stadium today, you wouldn't go that route. It's all I'm trying to say. Well, I think that's a fact.

That's not an opinion. I think that's a fact. That's not an opinion. I guess what I was asking your opinion on this is because if you read the comments, people hated this opinion. I got trashed pretty hard in the comments for having this opinion. When did you post this? I don't remember reading this. Was this recently? I think it was like three or four weeks ago, maybe.

Oh, geez. I mean, I read everything, but I wouldn't necessarily remember that. i had a picture of uh what's the beautiful baltimore stadium called uh i almost called it jacobs field but it's uh that's in that's included yeah it's uh oh shit what is that called damn it here's my this is what i think about the sky dome it was an easy um it was an easy thing to pick on when the Jays really sucked. And people use that as an excuse for why people weren't going to J games. But people weren't going to J games because the Jays sucked. It certainly doesn't, you know, it's not a Camden field.

Camden Yards. It's not necessarily a, you know, it doesn't make me want to go to a game, but it doesn't make me not want to go to a game either. It is what it is. Certainly, I think, you know, we're all make me want to go to a game, but it doesn't make me not want to go to a game either. It is what it is. Certainly, I think, you know, we're all of the things being equal. It would be nice to have another stadium. But I don't think Camden Yards is the best type of stadium to have here because we had an exhibition stadium and it fucking snowed. But exhibition stadiums was definitely a football stadium. It's the reality of living in the city is that you either have to deal with rain outs and snow outs, which you're not willing to do anymore in this particular financial environment, or you deal with what you got.

And to build another stadium right now requires a lot of money. And if anyone's going to build a stadium in this city, it's going to be an NFL stadium. stadium in this in this city it's going to be an NFL stadium so I think uh unless Rogers is willing to you know really wants that that programming for 168 games a year and they think that that's you know going to be worth that much then they'll build a new stadium but I don't think there's going to be a new one anytime soon which is why they're putting in fucking grass in a couple years right yeah that's why the Argos have to leave right it's a sign that they're not leaving so are the Argos coming to BMO where do they go no it's all up in the air now because i have no idea yeah because uh what happened something happened with the the city the was it the city or the province but the city owns bmo

field right yeah it was no the city had agreed it was either the province or the i think it was the feds the fed because the way in which it was structured was mLS. He was going to put $90 million into the Renault asking for 10 million each from the city, the province and the feds. And the feds had yet to respond. And there was a drop dead date because they need to get it done in time for the Pan Am games and all this shit. Um, so now they're going to move forward with their own renovation. It doesn't include the complete renovation to allow a CFL team to pull our football field, to be included in the soccer configuration. So the Argos are homeless essentially.

And it's, it's not a, it's not a good time to be an Argo fan because who knows where they're going to fucking go? Cause David barely wants to sell. They have no home at the Skydome. They can't play in BMO kind of a, who knows what's going to happen.

You know, I, I, at some point I lost interest in the NFL and then I found myself watching more CFL, and now I find I don't care about either league. Really? I just don't particularly care for football anymore. Really?

But I'm like, never been more. I know. My brothers would kill me for that opinion, but they worship the NFL. Was it Steve or Ryan that wants you to blog about football more? I don't remember, but probably Ryan. Ryan and Steven, but Ryan won't leave the house on a Sunday. That's where he's at.

You can't make even, let's say, a birthday party for a family member. He actually won't attend if it's a Sunday. Really? That's where he's at. Wow. That's hardcore. I think Steve would still break away to go to the family. Does he have a team?

I don't know if he has a team. I don't think he has a team. He's just a general fan. I think he's a general. He adopts different teams depending on players he likes. But he could name like the practice roster.

He seems like that. Well, yeah, he seems like that kind of guy who just is a fan of the game and just likes to watch good games. And I'll tune in for an interesting, like I did watch

Peyton Manning in the playoffs last year and I did watch the Super Bowl. But that's all I watched last year pretty much was some Peyton Manning in the playoffs and then the Super Bowl.

But that's pretty much where I'm at now. Like I might watch the Grey Cup if the Argos are in it or Eastern Conference Final if the Argos are in it but that's about all I'd watch this season in CFL I would watch uh I would watch more if I could if I had the time and I didn't have small kids but um uh I don't necessarily I don't have an allegiance I like I don't have a team I like the Bills I like the Bears I used to like the bills, you know, I like the bears. Uh, I, I'll enjoy the Packers just because of the history and some of the other teams. Um, but, uh, you know, I, I just don't have the time to be able to invest in it because of, you know, I got other things on the go. I guess that makes me not, you know, a hardcore fan, but I would go to a game. I mean, if there was a team in Toronto, I'd go to a game if I could afford it

and if I had the time and whatever. I don't know if I'd... I wouldn't have season tickets, but I'd go. You'd pay real money, like ticket price, like face value? Well, it depends on what... Are you looking for a handout? Well, no, no, no, no. I'm not looking for a handout.

I am. Okay. You want to give her an update here before we... All right. We have breaking news. You want to deliver this an update here before we... Alright, we have breaking news. You want to deliver this bad news or do you want me to do it? Unfortunately, Milos has lost in straight set 6-4,

6-4, 6-4 to Roger Federer in the semifinals of Wimbledon. Do you think anyone got that news from us? Like, do you think there's anyone out there who... Yes. So someone who just didn't give a shit about tennis at all. Yes. Just found out. So the good news is we can still win the women's singles. And doesn't Milos play for a bronze?

Maybe. What do I know? I think Milos is done. Oh, last minute here. Unless you have anything else you want to say. What did you think of what the Leafs did? I have a couple of opinions on this, but I'm going to guess that you're very happy

that they didn't pull a David Clarkson and do the same thing with David Boland. Yes. However, Dave Nones has no idea what the fuck he's doing. So he lucked into that, right? Yeah. That's my feeling, too. He does.

He did. He fluked into the right bomb. Totally did. He offered him, my feeling is that he offered him the equivalent contract, just not as many years. He has no idea how to manage an NHL franchise. He has no idea how to manage the salary cap.

He doesn't know how to be a general manager. He's a complete idiot at his job. He's not good at all. I don't have a lot of faith in him. I will say, though, whether he did it on purpose or by accident, I do like some of the inactivity that I witnessed because it would have been, you're right, signing Boland for, let's say, I don't know, $5 million a year for five years

would have been a very poor decision for a player of Boland's caliber. And can we talk about our favorite player? Clarkson? No, Leo? Okay, let's get to Leo in a minute because I'm a big Leo fan too. Just that right now, David Boland is the highest paid forward clarkson no leo okay let's get to the own a minute because i'm a big leo fan too um just that um

right now david boland is the highest paid forward on the florida panthers it's unbelievable it is unbelievable there are so many people who just don't know what the fuck they're doing even if he's healthy he's a good like a good middle guy like even though he was perfect on the black hawks yeah well first of all i like him too but he was perfect in the blackhawks because you had your like cane tave sharp stuff going on right then you came down to the bowling like that right that was perfect it's great i i liked him it would have been nice to have him here but not at that dollar see you later and so much for the fucking i want to come and play at home in mimico oh i know go fuck you mimico all right because everything they can hear you from here everything that you you've produced, Mimico, in terms of hockey players, they're fucking assholes.

Can I just tell you, though, you just told a big lie. Yeah. Because guess who you just shit on? Who? The great Brendan Shanahan. Yeah, well, fuck him, too, because he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing either, because he's got an idiot general manager working for him. Maybe he's the one who told Nones not to sign Boland. Okay, so Leo.

So, yeah, we brought back a couple of things. First of all, before we talk about who came back, former Leaf, Mikhail Grobovsky. I'm going to get these names pronunciated correctly. One of my favorites. Yes, that's right. One of my favorites. He's one of your favorites. Although I want to see how much of a favorite he is at that dollar value.

But the other former Leaf, now former Leaf, Kuleman. So they both signed these monster deals with the Islanders. Yeah, with another idiot general manager. So,

they're not worth that coin, right? No, not at all. Not at all. And, you know, but good power, more power.

Didn't we let, we released Gorbovsky. We're not, we bought him out. We bought him out, which is a brilliant move. We're not, we're not,

you know, we're not, we're not researching these guys for their contracts. Good for them. No, this is my David Clarkson argument. Good for them. Clarkson did what he was supposed to do, which is sign on the dotted line when you get a deal. But he's also a shitty player. He's, he's a shitty, shitty player. He's being paid beyond his abilities. He's a shitty player. He's not a shitty player. He is a shitty player. We got David Clarkson. We will do again. Yeah. Let's bring David Clarkid clarkson into this i might because todd shapiro says he's friends with him

now and i think i can get him in here he's not a shitty player he's a shitty player but uh you've got you've just he tries too hard you have it so dave nonas he signs leo komarov who everybody loves because he's he's a fucking funny guy and he's a great everyone loves leo he's a fun guy to watch play right he he has all those qualities that we like to watch as as canadian hockey fans however he has signed him now for a contract that rumor has it is more than what they offered him last year when he took off to go to the khl to make a boatload of money oh that's funny so why is it now that he's worth all this money a year later out of the NHL when he wasn't the year before? Because you're a shitty

gentleman. The same way... Two, yeah, okay, go on. Two, you traded a... Gunnarsson. You traded a fucking... No, last year, you traded a fucking defenseman and then signed Tim Gleeson who you've now bought out. The guy you traded, you could have bought out for less on your salary cap than the fucking

dumb idiot that you traded for, which has now gotten more. Was it Lyles? Who was it? Yeah, John Michael Lyles. That's it. You could have bought out Lyles, just waited out that season and bought him out. You would have had the same fucking shitty asset you had with Tim Gleeson. And now you have a bigger hit on your salary cap. He doesn't know what the fuck

he's doing. On that note, I'm not knowing what the fuck he's doing. So he brings back Leo Komarov. He then trades for Matty Fratton. Which you're also bringing him back. Right. Because he's doing on that note and not knowing what he's doing is so he brings back leo komarov he then trades for maddie fratton and which you were also bringing him back right because if you in an interview he stated he felt like they had really good not the end of the short season the 48 game season at the end of that season he felt that season had great chemistry and he wanted to return to that so essentially he's looking at two seasons ago when we lost in the first round as the glory days we need to return to in a shortened season why are we going back to a shortened season and why is that is that really like was that season so awesome we want to try

to like recapture the glory like they didn't put out like remember when the leaps went to the final four in 93 and they put out that 92 or they put out a dvd because i bought it called the passion returns yes yes and i own it somewhere it's in a box i have it too okay the passion returns we and they put out a DVD because I bought it called The Passion Returns. And I own it. Somewhere it's in a box. I have it too. Okay. The Passion Returns.

We were so excited because we're in the final four. This is not like bringing Wendell Clark back for the third time. But this is, he came back four times, you know.

Matt Fratton. Fratton, who I thought was fine. I remember thinking it was an unusual name for an Italian. There's no vowel on the end of Fratton. Right.

You're right. But anyway, I can't believe that we're making these moves now to recapture that wonderful... Nones has no idea what the fuck he's doing. What do you think of the trade for the Gunnarsson trade?

It's irrelevant. It's irrelevant because it's not going to move anyone anywhere. They did nothing to improve themselves. They replaced garbage with garbage and took on bigger salary cap hit. So yet again, we are relying on Bernier staying healthy and standing on his head

trying to steal us an eighth place in the conference. Right, and hopefully, I mean, what are you going to get for Reimer? Very little, but I hope he does end up in Winnipeg because I feel like we fucked with him and I like him personally and I feel like he would be well-received

and could be effective in Winnipeg. As a human to human, you hope that he does well because he's a nice guy. He seems like a nice guy. He seems like a genuine guy. Sweetheart.

Good Mennonite boy. He did some good stuff for us and if he doesn't want to be here, then let's get him out of here. But at the same time, I don't want him to go for nothing, right? As a fan.

What's a backup goalie worth these days? I don't know. Well, see, that's the thing is that he's, you know, we're treating him as a backup, but he doesn't believe he is. So I don't know what you're going to. I'm not so sure he is either. What do you know? I know what you got for him. Draft picks. I don't know. A late pick. Okay. Any final thoughts on this

wonderful 83rd episode of Toronto Mic'd? I think now my hatred for the Leafs is centered solely on Dave Nones more so. I'm going to give... Than Carlisle? Than Clarkson is going to get a little bit of relief from me perhaps this season. Probably because I won't even notice him playing like I did last year because he's that invisible. But Nones has got to go. But you do know

when we win like four of our first five games and JVR and Bozak and Kessel are clicking that we're going to kind of forget all the stuff we hate and we're just going to be fucking cheering on the blue one.

You will. I will. You're a big fan boy. I watch, I have to admit, if I'm home, I watch every game including preseason.

I will too. That's a pretty big fan boy. No, but I'm home, I watch every game, including preseason. I will too. That's a pretty big fanboy. No, but I'm not going to say that they're amazing. No, but dude, that's different than being a fan. I'm not stupid. This is not a good team. I will be shocked when we make the playoffs. We butt heads on the Clarkson thing all the time.

Here's my problem. It is a horrible, horrible season. He had a horrible season. He's never had a good season. He scored 30 goals twice in his life, once in junior and once in the NHL.

He's not a goal scorer and he was signed to be a goal scorer. Listen, I'm not. He doesn't score goals. He never will. I think it's the worst contract possible,

but I do feel like he could have a rebound season and I'm hoping he does. A rebound to what? 25 goals? Well, sure. It's still shit. I'll take 25 goals. It's still shit And I'm hoping he does. A rebound to what? 25 goals? Well, sure. It's still shit.

I'll take 25 goals. It's still shit. I just hope he's as good as Kuliman was last year. I hope Grabowski and Kuliman light it up in the island. I love Grabowski. Grabowski will have a great season and with great statistics. And they will finish like 13th in the comp.

He had a good season last year too. Gave Carlisle a big finger. Fuck you. No, he had a... Actually, if I remember correctly, he had a good first game. He did. What did he score?

He scored like 10 goals? Yeah, yeah. And I remember he didn't do that. You never know. Actually, honestly, if you took out the first game, he had a pretty mediocre season. All right.

You do a long extra here, and I'm going to quickly Google him. Grabowski. I remember he's, yeah, three goals in the first game, and you looked at me with this, like, glint in your eye, like, look, I told you, he's the next Gretzky. Oh, yeah, I did. I was all ready. I was all ready to.

Yeah, how many goals did Grabowski get before I sign us off here? All right, so... Is it single digits? He got... No, no, no. He got 13 goals last year. Oh, sorry. It's not single digits.

It's 13 goals, and he had nine the season before. But do you realize he had three goals after the first game? Which means he scored 10 goals the rest of the way. Yeah, still more. Still more than he did with the Leafs. Well, and still more than Clarkson. Yeah, 35 points in 58 games. And Clarkson had four, right?

Who the fuck knows how much Clarkson played? I know it got to a point where if he scored, I celebrated like he just passed Daryl Stittler with his 11th point of the game. Fuck Mimico. And that brings us to the end of our 83rd show. You can follow me on Twitter at Toronto Mike and Elvis at Oshawa Elvis. See you all next week.