Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Traitors Canada Secrets Revealed with Mary Jo Eustace: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1562

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

In this 1562nd episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with Mary Jo Eustace about her experience on Traitors Canada Season Two as she answers many questions from curious viewers. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada, The Yes We Are Open podcast from Moneris and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

Lowest of the low like 35 years ago, we lived in the same house in Riverdale on Victor Avenue. I was living with my boyfriend at the time was in my band. And Ron lived in the basement. Ron Hawkins, Ron Hawkins with his girlfriend, Helen or Elaine. Oh my god, what a small world. So you were living in the same house as the guy from lowest of the low. Oh, so the low and they had good food. They were good cooks or something was going on down there. But yeah, that good for

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I'm in the six. Is that what Toronto is called? I'm in the six. We do call it that, but why are you in the six and not in my basement? Well, that's a bit of a provocative question. You didn't ask me to go to your basement. Did you think I was in Los Angeles? Yes. Oh, no, no, I'm in Toronto. Okay, but see, I feel like with a little more organization, we could have recorded this in person. Yeah, yeah, but you wanted to get it ASAP. And when you speak, I listen. So when you said you needed me on, I was like,

what time, when, where, how do I do it? When I say Mary Jo, I want you to jump. You say how high, how high and you are my producer officially. Well, I've been watching this promo like a lot of ground I want to cover mainly about traders Canada season two, but like I'm literally biking and I see what in like TTC bus shelters, I see giant posters and I can see you. You're just standing there, right? There's Mary Jo. Like it's just, I have so many questions about this, but I noticed you're often billed as like podcast host. I know. I mean, they're short on description for Traders Canada. It's like so general people like, what is that? Who is she? They didn't get real specific. Even's like so general. People are like, what is that?

Who is she? They didn't get real specific. Even I looked at it and I was like, okay. But yeah, TV host and podcast host. Is that what they said it was? Do they ever mention, like my question is, and again, I've got a lot of questions because devote listeners have submitted questions for you.

So. That's amazing. Yeah. And I wish, I do plan to become a devote viewer of this program, but I got to just let you know off the top. I haven't had time. I haven't seen it yet. I'm kind of sketchy on the premise.

We're going to cover a lot of ground, but do they ever mention senior bitches? Well, they were supposed to. They were supposed to because I did lots of testimonials for senior bitches. And that was part of my reason that I wanted to do it. Senior bitches are award winning. Well, not yet award winning podcasts that you and I do together, but it's hit the charts. It's jumping up the charts again on Canada. I noticed that in Canada and you know, we charted all over the world and it's where we explore aging for women and men over 50.

We talk about it all sex, drugs, rock and roll. We've had great guests and now it's, you know, doing well with the traders injection. So that's what you and I do together. But if I may, like as your producer, we've been on like senior bitches has been on hiatus. Like when will you record more senior bitches? I'm going to start doing that now. It's been like a really crazy time and now that I'm getting back out there again and I've got lots of cool things potentially happening we're gonna get right back on it be odd it's gonna happen and what brings you to Toronto is this part of the the Bell Media promo tour oh I'm in

the private chat everywhere honest to God if I get my parking validator, it's like a win. Do they give you lasagna and beer? Yeah, and a free pass to the funeral home. Um, yeah, so no, I mean, I just happened to be in Toronto for other things. So I got to do a lot of press for traders, and it kind of worked out well that I'm here right now. So yeah, I've been doing the rounds and your podcast today. I'm going to do Jan Arden's next week. I'm excited about that. Who's a former guest of your program. Yes, several times, right?

And you guys have this chemistry where it's palpable. I don't know if you swing that way. I'm not going to pry into your sexuality, but I'm a lesbian or fluid or something but there's a lot of chemistry there. We have great chemistry I love her she's absolutely hilarious and just just a riot she's got repeat immature humor like I do so we do and she's just a brainiac too right so she goes off on all sorts of different tangents so we have wonderful conversations so I'm looking forward to that but currently I am single currently I am single. Currently I am single. I was getting that was my next question.

What is your current status? How long have you been single for? A year. Are you dating? Like are you on the apps? Well, remember when I was hoaring it up in LA, I was doing all my dating for several years and we talked about all of it. Yeah.

Well, you know, I have a sub stack called senior bitches. Yeah, of it. Yeah. Well, you know, I have a sub stack called senior bitches. Yeah, of course, stacks of people can check in. And my last entry was the title was to all the men on Bumble. Are you guys okay? Actually did like my experience on Bumble with three responses that I got. And I said to people, who would you pick? Like seriously, because it's a shit show. It's a shit show out there.

It is. You're married, you're happy, but it's scary out there. Have you considered like meeting people in the real world? Like maybe you don't need the apps. You're married, you're gorgeous, you're smart, you're funny. Well, I live in LA and the men are infantilized and date their nurses or there's actors and I'm not doing that again. So the apps do not work for me. I cannot, as I call

it shock for humans online, which is online dating. I'm not good at it. I don't have good radar. So I've met people in the real world and my psychic says I have two guys that are going to be coming at me that are going to be amazing. Amazing. One with kind of brown eyes and one with green eyes. So apparently that's around the corner. That counts me out. I got blue eyes. Yeah, you're married.

Hi, poor kids. So but apparently that's coming way way. Who knew? Right? Okay, so you're single. We're going to put that out into the universe. Mary Jo Eustice currently single, new senior bitches are coming. Why won't Jan Arden come on Toronto mic? What's up with that?

Well, she doesn't like you. And you know, we talked about it ad nauseam for hours. She's like, that guy is he the the funeral home guy? He's still working with that Toronto mic loser. That like, have you asked her? Oh, I could tell you, I believe I have. yes, yeah, I believe I've actually asked through PR representatives like I've it's tough to get to Jan directly unless you're Mary Jo Eustace like maybe you need to be my you need to broker this deal.

I'll be your Jan Arden bitch. I'll see what I can do for you. Okay, I expect some free pasta and some of that. Oh my god, you know, I'm not drinking. I haven't drank in 10 months. Well, don't bury the lead here. Why did you stop drinking? Because I, you know, I just, well two things, I'm unfiltered anyway. And when I drink, I get even more unfiltered, which is not a good thing. And I order online late at night, which is not a good thing.

And it wasn't making me feel good. And I actually talked to Jen about this. I had her on my show several times. And you know, and I stopped January one. And I have not drank since January one. And I feel better. And I don't know if I'm going to go back. Truthfully. Well, as your producer, I think your senior bitches podcast is better when you're a little tipsy.

You think so when I was drinking vodka shots you like to better. So maybe I'll give you some while you're in Toronto I'll drop off some fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery and you could just dive back in. Nice plug. Okay, sounds good. All right. I think I'm not drinking or having sex so honest to God. What's the point?

That was my next question. Are you currently having coitus sexual intercourse? No. Okay. question. Are you currently having coitus sexual intercourse? No. Okay. Yeah. Anything else? But I look good. I'm hanging in there. Lest we forget the cover art for senior bitches. Excellent podcast hosted by Mary Jo Eustis features you in a bikini taken when you were 60 years young. Yeah. And I love that. And you know, I just did a campaign for this,

this thing called Cell Sound in LA actually, and I've got more bikini shots and I'm gonna, hey mom, how's it going? I'm talking to my friend Mike here. Hi Mike. My mom says hi. Hello there, does your mom know who I am? Yeah, yeah, say hi, lean in.

Lean in, okay. Nice to see you, nice to see you. Nice to see you. Thank you. And she got me a croissant from across the street. Mary Jo, lest we forget, and I don't mean to bring them up, but just because I see your mom there, you may recall when you were doing a podcast with your ex-husband, Dean McDermott, we had 11 episodes in the can and there was an episode with your parents on it, which made me tear up when Dean was apologizing. Oh, get over it. Move on. Next. We're done. I'm just sharing that. Because I know things

gone. Bye bye. Yeah. I would love to know your mom's thoughts on Tori's spelling in her. No, we don't want to sell the podcast. No. All right. Well, we'll move back. Can we go back to the beginning? When did you learn? You have to calm down. You were so excited to have me on. You were a hot. You're tough to book. You're a hot commodity. I'd rather have you on than Jen Arden. I can say that right now. I'm texting her that as she's right here. Jen, say hi to Mary Jo. Mary Jo. Yes, sir. Let's go back. So Traders is a very worldwide phenomenon.

This is a reality show that took like took the world by storm. I learned this from Ed Keenan. And then Canada had a season that I was not aware of. But then I learned there was a season two coming because I saw your beautiful face in the promo pictures and stuff. Oh, that's how you learn. Okay. Yeah, I didn't even know about Traders Canada till I learned Mary Jo Eustis was going to be on the cast in the cast. But can you

go back and tell me? Do you audition for this? Like because you also are a great actress? Like do you audition for this? Like how did you get on Traders Canada? Well, no, you don't audition for it. But you know, Heather Muir has a casting director. She's reached out to me for the amazing race. I think she might have been casting director on Real Housewives of Toronto, which I turned down a dozen times. So I've been approached to do a lot of reality shows. And she got in touch with me in June. And she's like, I'm coming at you with this thing. And you know, I'm just going to float it out there and see what you think. And she and she said traders and that is my worst nightmare come true going

on a reality show like a competition show. And I was like, I don't know, I don't know. And it's my son's favorite show is Jack's favorite show. He's obsessed with traders. So I told him about it. He said, Mom, if you don't do it, you're a total pussy. And so I was thinking about it as kind of avoiding her calls. She got me and she said, it's going to be fun. And I'm like, what the hell I'm going to do it. It really scares me to do that show. I'm very uncomfortable, but I'm going to do it. So I committed to doing it was kind of last minute. I really, you know, sat on it for a bit. And then I like, I'm doing this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do it. And where did it film in Quebec? And when did it film? It filmed first couple of weeks of July.

Okay. First couple of weeks of July, yeah. And the only, I mean, spoiler alert, but the only reason you're allowed to talk about this now is because you're no longer on the show if you're watching at home. I got bit off. Okay. So how about this? Yes.

I'm going to start reading questions from listeners of the program who love Traders Canada season two, because they love Mary Jo Eustace. Oh my God. My one fan, let's hear about my one fan. Multiple fans. I got to start though, before I got to tell you, Andrew Jordan learned you were returning to Toronto Mic.

So I need to tell people if they want the A to Z of Mary Jo Eustace's illustrious life and times, go to the Toronto Mic'd archives. You've been on many times and I mean we won't mention his name again but you and your ex husband came on together when you were working together and then we all know what happened. But you've been on solo, you've been on with Ray Don Chong. Ray Don Chong. A couple of times.

Okay. But never in person. Even when you're in Toronto I have to zoom with you. I know. I should have thought of your basement today. You in your basement without your sperm, whatever you were telling me at the beginning. Oh, I didn't even record that. Okay. But yes, you, you told me something about sperm and I reminded you I don't have sperm.

Yeah, don't you don't need to remind me again. Just need to throw it out there. Okay. Andrew Jordan just wants me to ask you what's for dinner? Because let's we forget, uh, you really become like a famous Canadian personality because of what's for dinner. Yeah, I did. You know, it's funny because a couple of days ago, I met with the producer of what's for dinner, Ira Levy and we were reminiscing about what's for dinner, right?

That I did with Ken Costa. Yeah. Um, and we were talking about the casting process because they didn't cast me in the show. They cast somebody else. They cast this more uptight person. The network thought I was too out there. They cast Jan Arden, is that right? No, they did not cast Jan Arden.

She's like, Jan, did they? She says, fuck no. She's, I'm not answering his fucking questions. I'm not answering this dude's question. So I was so excited. I audition, I audition, and then I don't get the job. And then a couple of days later, I get a call late at night that said, okay, we're firing the other woman.

And we're bringing you on the next day to learn the cameras and start shooting the show. Wow. So it's like just like an indoctrination by fire. And we just talked about like, all the stuff that went on behind the camera that that would be such a great series because Ken was firing me left right and center. He sort of you know, had a Napoleon complex, like all the dynamics of it were insane. And and and I were like, 2530 years later, the crew members, the directors, who all work all around the world

say it's the funnest show they've ever been on, because we had such a blast. I mean, it was just so great. And out of the gate, it was a success, you know, this obnoxious tall big woman, and this little gay man kind of abusing each other. Right. And if we bring it now, we'd be billionaires. We were we we broke so so many barriers because he came out on national TV. Like we did, you know, lots of gay humor. It was, it was really kind of a revolutionary show. And to this day, people reach out to me who are 30 or 40 and say, you saved my life when I watched that show. Right. So it was, it was very impactful. Then we went on to do, he said, she said, which is another 200 episodes of sort of

a different iteration. But, you know, we've been on the air. What like we're on Amazon Prime, like for 30 years. Do you get any residual checks from that? I got one big one and then Dicko. What's a big one for L.A.M.J.? What's a big one? Oh, no, I can't even say it was embarrassing.

It was Canadian. No, it was not enough to buy a house. Maybe a plane ticket on Air Canada, but it was not a lot of money. But, you know, we were just reminiscing about all the stuff that went on in the characters and you can't write this shit and just everybody just loved the experience. We just loved it. Now, Ken, you know, shout out to Ridley funeral home. Ken left the party too early. Way too early.

How long has it been since we lost Ken? 13 years, which I cannot believe. Yeah, 13 years. And you know, I went the final time to see him at the hospital and he was, you know, just kind of hooked up to stuff, but he looked very young. I told him, I said, your skin, you look so good. You can let that but it

was just magic in a bottle. You know, that's what it was. And if Ken were still with us, is it fair to say in some iteration, you two would be broadcasting together or podcasting? Yeah, we were also talking about when you're on proud FM and we did what's for breakfast. And I would get yelled at like by the producer almost every show for saying diarrhea because that's my favorite word. And we just had a blast. So we would definitely be working together. And who was the producer? Well, not Bob Willett. He was the program director. He was a program director who ate hot dogs at 530 in the morning and didn't pay attention to us. Rob Basilica or Rob somebody,

but we had to have a nervous breakdown essentially. He went into rehab after he disc... I'm sorry to hear that. I will just for fun, let the listenership know that on Friday night, this is what Thursday? So tomorrow night at 8 p.m. If you go to live.torontomike.com, the Bob Willett will be here with Rob Pruse from spoons

and we'll be kicking out harvest jams live streaming it recording it for Toronto Mike. So Bob Willett is technically my next guest on Toronto Mike. We'll say hi to him for me. I'm gonna ask him about the hot dogs. Oh, hot dogs and Ken's Chihuahua Pete on the board. Anyway, you know, lots of stuff. And he does blame your daughter for his chicken pox. Like he's told me the story i apologize somebody didn't tell me their kid had chicken pox till after the play date that's really good so you had a sweater i mean i won't dwell on this we got to

get to traders season two but um there was a sweater you had left in the studio that your daughter had worn and she had chicken pox. This is Lola. Oh my God. That's right. And Bob will let well, I don't know. He touched the sweater and he got chicken pox and he had never had it before. So he had no immunities to it. And it was a rough bout for poor Bobby. Well, he got over it. That's the important thing. But did he MJ did he? It sounds like he hasn't. Did you ever party with P Diddy? I don't I can't legally I can't say anything right now. That's spicy. That's a spicy meatball right there. But I have 2000 bottles of baby oil at my apartment. So I can't I don't want to nothing more than that. That's it. Oh, and Garth Brooks too. They're coming after him. I didn't

know that. A woman Yeah. Oh, but I think that's extortion. Anyway, just one woman because we get up when you get to P Diddy R Kelly level. That's what it takes to get my interest. It's atrocious, right? Just atrocious. Horrible. Absolutely. Okay. So no, well, you, you pled the fifth, which you can't do in Canada. That's an American phenomenon. So you got to answer my questions. Okay. Let's, let's, let's go to the next listener. I like this listener because Peter Myers is his name. Okay.

His brother's name. He's got two brothers. One is Paul Myers, who was in a band called Gravelberries. You remember Gravelberries? Yes, I do. I know I've met Paul. Okay. I'm not surprised.

And Mike Myers is, I don't know what he ever did with his life, but Mike Myers is the other Paul. Okay. I'm not surprised. And Mike Meyers is, is, is I don't know what he ever did with his life, but Mike Meyers is the other brother. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he did much. He's probably in LA right now wondering where you are. So I tried to get a job. So Peter says, what was it? This is kind of a generic to get us rolling here because we got to get the traders. Yeah. What was it like being in the manner on Traders Canada? How did the contestants not see the traders going to their trader meetings? Okay. All right. Well, I don't know if we're okay. Well, staying in the manner was a blast. Okay. Because it's like camp, right? Staying in the manner and and it's you know, in a really pretty my room was bitching.

I had a great room. I faced the courtyard, you know, in the lake and it was so we all had our rooms. We were escorted like we were toddlers, right? Because you can't say anything to places, right? Because they call it I don't even know if I'm allowed to say what they call it, but they call it pineapple time. I just said that and you can't communicate, right? You can't, you cannot.

Is that code for cannabis? Kind of. So you can't really, they don't want that to be happening. So you have your meals together, but you're not supposed to talk about the game and they're very adamant about that. And they have a whole system at night to allow the traders, which I don't know if I can talk about to go to the conclave. So we're distracted.

Right? Wait, wait, you keep saying, I don't know if I can talk about it. So, but I think you can talk about it. Why would you think so? You don't even know what the show was. So here's the thing. What I'm okay. So at night to answer your question, because we're all staying in the manor, right.

And we're one room apart. They don't even, you're not allowed to go out in the hall. There's security. You can't, you cannot connect with your other guests. So at night they do stuff to get the traders out of their room to the conclaves and back in their rooms. So we can't hear or see or anything. Does that make sense?

Well, that's the followup from leave a Fumka who's an FOTM Hall of Famer. She says, how do they ensure that when the traders meet, the other contestants don't peek out and see who they are? Because there is security in the hallways. You, if you open your door, you're out. Like you are lectured. You has an escort that takes you. So they want to keep the secrets of the game, right? So you cannot, you can't, it's impossible. If you open your door, you're, you're kicked out. Okay. How about this for those who aren't watching, could you, are you able to tell us the premise

of this show in like an elevator pitch? Yeah, I am. Thank you to you. Who's never seen it. It's very simple for the listeners who don't know what the hell we're talking about. Please establish this premise here. Okay, so they take 20 or 22 people. They take them to a beautiful location. All right. And you are separated. time together with these people. Then you meet and then you go to the round table, right? So the round table is where you banish people and you go to the round table and you put on a mask and then the host of the show, the

producers pick traders, three traders. So you don't know who they pick, right? So you, before you look around the table, you don't know who's a trader, right? There are no traders and you put on your mask, you take your mask off and then you know that there's traders amongst you. Okay. Okay. So the premise of the show is this, that is the premise. So what you try and, and then there's a hundred thousand dollars you can potentially win. So there's 10 challenges. There's a challenge every day that you can win. Okay, so here's a typical day, you get up in the morning, you have breakfast, right? And then you do a challenge. So you work as a team together, you go to do the challenge, and you want to win $10,000 per challenge. Sometimes

it happens. Sometimes it doesn't. You go to car, you go to missions in the car, and you switch up your car all the time. And when you're in the car, you're like, who do you think's a trader? Who do you think might be right? And you form alliances to try and weed out the traders because nobody knows who the traders are right. Except the three traders or four traders or how many traders they have. So then you do the mission.

You come back to the man or lots of people do lots of cocktails and spill it. And then at night you go to the table to banish somebody from the kingdom. Right. Okay. And you vote that person gets banished and comes up and says, they're a faithful or a trader. Right. And you want to get traders. And then you leave the man or you have to leave and then here's the twist every single night the traders murder somebody So I did not want to get murdered so the next morning when you wake up and you go to breakfast You're sitting there as people come in and you're trying to figure out who's been murdered Does that make sense?

It does. If you get to the end, if there's a trader in the final two or three, they win the money. Always the trader will win. But if it's faithfuls, they get the money. But the traders get the money if they're in the mix. So you were a faithful. I was. I wanted to be a trader. And you were murdered murdered No, I was banning. Okay. So what just helped me out some you mentioned that every night There's a murder but you weren't murdered you were no voted like sort of like in Survivor style You were voted off the island. I Was one of the strongest most like players they get rid of the strong players at the beginning, right? Right, they don't want they they don't want them coming. So what happened in my episode is I had made this alliance.

Do you know Enoch Mamba? I'm a I'm a I have a client, Donovan Bailey. He was once the fastest man in the world and we had him on as a guest on his podcast. So I had him on and he's an Argonaut, a former Toronto Argonaut. Yeah. And we hit it off. Okay. So we were it off. Okay. So we were like the Titans, right?

And we're in our car ride sharing personal stories and we're bonding and all this stuff. No heat on me whatsoever. Like I, no heat on me. And then in the car ride, he thought I was a traitor. He actually thought I was on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And I told him, I'm not on that show. But you have that look. You have that look.

So that's what he thought. And then the bros as I call them, like Kevin was a bachelor. He's a stud. And these other guys, Enoch is like, she's a trader. And he just had nothing to go on. And long story very short, I got word through my gaze. They were coming for me at the round table. So before I went on the round table, I looked at Enoch, he couldn't look me in the eye.

I'm like, ooh, this is gonna go down. But I was on the list to be murdered anyway, right? I knew in my brain that that was could happen. So when we went to the round table, I decided I'm gonna go big or go home. And I gotta go big. So I went really, really big. So I just came up with this wild theory and blew it up. And the whole table went insane. And there was drama and memes from it. And I got banished. I got banned. You went out in a blaze

of glory. Huge. And then I walked up and I was like, bitches, I'm a faithful. And then everybody's falling on the floor and crying and hysterical. And it was a shit show of the best order. So two things I wanted, I wanted to be on the poster. And I wanted to leave with a bang. Because truthfully, now, even though my roundtable was vicious, it's just going to get more and more vicious. my roundtable was vicious, it's just going to get more and more vicious. And if they edit you badly, right? I mean, you look bad. So I got out just at the right time. I'm happy. And I'm happy that you're happy. And you so you knew you weren't going to win this 100,000 because you're too strong. And do I? Yeah, I didn't go in thinking I could win but then but once I left I was like, oh, I could have probably got really far because one of the traders really, really liked me

and I could have I didn't see it as that you know what I mean like that wasn't my goal but then I was like, I probably could have played this but you always have 50% chance they're going to murder you at night You know the traders can just say we want her out. That's it I think a lot of listeners who haven't been watching are on their way to crave right now to check out what they missed Oh my god, it is hysterical the roundtable. Oh But I have a question so you are a famous in my opinion. Okay, you're a famous person You're Mary Jo Eustis forget the tabloid bullshit

Just the what's for dinner. What's for breakfast? What was the other one called? You said she said he's had that one. Yeah That brandy and I always forget in your bitches senior bitches like you're famous. You just mentioned Enoch okay, he won a great cup with the Toronto organized famous per like he's a Professional football former professional football, former professional football player. Is everybody like, how does it break down? Like how many are like famous people and how many are like normies like me?

I'd say six or seven or eight were maybe kind of well known, right? Then the rest were not and Enoch and I, oh, we were, I mean, we love each other. But he turned on you. Yeah, and yeah, he did. And the edit is hysterical. It's so funny that, I mean, there's moments and then the round table when he came after me was amazing, it was just amazing.

And he, when he found out I was a faithful Oh my god. Wow. Well, here's what I want. I'm gonna pitch this because what I want very much if and when because I have no idea. You've never told obviously you've sworn to secrecy and everything and you've never told me anything but if and when if slash when Enoch is eliminated from this game, could I have a zoom with both of you? Oh, I'd love it. So this is what I want and I don't know how long he'll last for all I know he wins this thing. I don't know anything. I like it that way. But when

he's allowed to talk, you two join me and we talk about this because it sounds like you guys were like an alliance and he just sort of turned on my MJ. I don't know. Yeah, he got paranoid. He fucked up. And he would say to you like, you know, because we're in communication after and he would say, Oh, my god, like, this, he called me the sweetest lady. I'm like, Well, that's a stretch. But still, but he said, I just quite the stretch. It's a bit of a stretch. But our relationship was very strong. All right, so we're gonna do that. I going to start teasing it that when we're allowed, we're all three going to jump on a zoom.

Yeah, he's a great character. Yeah, I had good vibes from our zoom when going out for lunch with his wife. His wife is just a babe and wonderful. So I really enjoyed. But then you know, when you see it back, you you're like this guy was really going after me. Holy shit It's like interesting Watch it back, right and you see no that what's that? Like when you've done this in July and now you wait and you wait and then finally these episodes are starting to drop

Do you watch it like as if you're a viewer? Do you get together with your son and watch it like how do you watch these episodes? I was in Canada was in LA for some I usually take my time and watch them the next day. I don't get in the group chats. I don't want to do that. And then I watch for the edit to see like the previous what's going to happen. And they saved this as a big huge shocker reveal surprise. So episode three, I get so much airtime around it. And they were very sad that I left very sad. Right. But that's the way it goes. Because they can't manipulate this, right? This is the straight up like this is how it ended. They can't keep you around because you're a good character because this is a

game show. Yeah, yeah. I will be missed. I miss you already and I haven't even started watching yet. I will be missed. But it was just it was a great experience. I love doing it. I loved it actually. Well, I love seeing you on those posters as I biked by. I used to wave to you. I would wave to you when I see you.

That is amazing. I loved it. I was thrilled. Leslie Taylor writes in How real are the challenges? real They're real. I mean they have to have safety things in place, right? So you don't die but they're real and and and a couple of them were very intense because the weather was very hot Hot there was a few injuries

You know, you can get injured yeah quite easily one of the the bros as i call them like the trojan horse ran over his foot like almost took his foot off so you can get injured there they're they're very but they but that that was just you know you put his foot in the wrong place but the safety guys and everybody are there all the time making sure you're okay. You know, we go through stuff, they're very safe. But the challenges are spectacular. The guys who do all that it's, I mean, it is a blast, you know, because about three or four hours a day spent on the challenges. Right. And they put a lot of time and effort in making them really spectacular and safe. But you know, they're a lot of work.

They're hard. Yeah. And the bottom line is, you're here to know, they're a lot of work. They're hard. Yeah. And the bottom line is you're here to tell me they're real. So if Leslie's asking the question, there must be some feeling out there that maybe they're manipulated somehow, but they're real. I mean, the last challenge we had to do was in mud and we had to crawl under like barbed wire and go answer questions around explosives. right? So we had to do that. And that's real. Some actually some traders opted out. They couldn't do it. They couldn't do it. So yeah, it's real. It's real. Now you've alluded to the phone. That's I think that's Jan calling. I know. I know. She's had a change of heart. She wants

to make Rogers Rogers with some price like No Rogers wants you for their reality show now. They're like, why does Bell Canada get the Mary Jo exclusive? So take that I would do it and you know what the other thing is Dave I I'd have to say the filming and the lighting very nice Very nice. I'm very happy with it. You look like a teenager on this show. Yeah teenager That's the word I was gonna come up with my goodness. I see sort of around there So yeah, but the challenges are real but they're saying so they go Leslie you alluded a couple times to the the bros

I heard you say the gays. Yeah, so so Do you leverage the fact that? You co-hosted a show with Ken? Yeah. And you have a gay son. Like, do you leverage this to get in good with the gays as this is your words? I'm not calling them the gays. Yeah. Well, my, the first, the, the two Dylan and Kirkland, who are my beloved gays, it was like this, right? Like we were attracted to each other immediately and I loved them. And Kirkland was on Farming for Love, played the first gay farmer on that show.

And he is, I loved him and we were great friends and they did the edit to make us look like enemies, but we were great friends, shot all the time. And Dylan is hysterical. And Dylan was like at my round table, Andy, please watch this for the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. This is her audition tape. Please take her.

So Dylan and Kirkland were amazing. I love them and they were just so supportive even though they both voted me off. But they thought you were a traitor. Dylan went. Yeah, they went along with it knowing probably I wasn't, but it's a whole regardless, they know you're a strong player and they want the hundred thousand. So get rid of these strong players. This is how a good strategy. Well, I won't, I'm not gonna say anything, but so they were like your iconic. So they love my round table.

They were very supportive. Um, I love those. And then the bros was Enoch and Kevin, who was on The Bachelor. Sweet, sweet guy. I threw him under the bus. I really liked him. And then there was Cedric, the comedian. Have you heard of that guy? The entertainer? No, no, he's Cedric. He was he was high pride. And then Aaron was another guy and the bros all day were like, but the big bros were Enoch and Kevin and another bro that got voted off was Chris, who was the star of Naked and Afraid. Naked and Afraid? Yeah.

Okay. So, you know, um, interesting. I was kind of straddling both. I was sort of into both. I was quite popular. I was quite popular. I was gonna say you're smart, but what episode did you get booted here? What episode was this? Third? Yeah, so it feels like in the earliest exit since Tory spelling was on Dancing with the Stars.

No, mine is actually not that early. Thank you. But if you watch historically, they get rid of the really strong players at the beginning. Right. That which makes sense. Okay. And then they carry along the weaker players to the end. They're no threat. How is it decided who will be in which car and who will drive?

Oh, that's a good question. We decide. And but you want to switch it up all the time. Right. we decide. And but you want to switch it up all the time, right? So Enoch and I had a car ride just the two of us together, which was highly unusual. And I was in the car with my friend Dylan and Netta, who's a trader tried to get in her car. And I was like, no, because I don't trust her. So we would decide at lunch, I want to be in your car, I need to talk to you because they film it. So you're always switching it up, right? Right. So the players decide and sometimes players get left out

They're like no you can't come in my car and then you know, they're gonna talk about you. It's like high school basically I love it. You know what? I gotta I gotta get on this. Okay, leave a Fumka Do the contestants get paid a certain amount and then the longer they stay they get extra money like a bonus for lasting? She wants to know the payment structure here. Oh my God, what is she an accountant? Let's put it this way in the States, those biatches make a shitload of money to be on the show in Canada, you get a per diem.

Per diem. Okay, good. So you can get your big Mac combo or whatever. Okay. Yes, you can buy your gum and smokes or whatever. So and then and then you know, of course you want to get the prize caught at the end. That's like the whole thing. Well, on that note, so the follow up is the money at the end that the final person gets. Is that on top of what they're already being paid to participate? But you just explained it's a per DM. So it's nothing. it's nothing. It's nothing. You get more for

being on Toronto mic'd. I don't get anything for being on Toronto mic'd. If you can't in person, you would leave with the lasagna, the beer, you'd have a Ridley funeral home measuring tape and I have a speaker. This is important MJ. Ridley home, they give out measuring tapes to measure the body for the coffin. Something like that. But I have this is I think this is sweet. I

have wireless speakers. They sound amazing. They're from Monaris. So you can listen to season seven of Yes, they Yes, we are open, which is an award winning podcast from Monaris hosted by FOTML Greg, oh, he went to Winnipeg for goodness sakes. Maybe I don't know where Jan's hiding Calgary, I think, but he went out west and he captured some great stories from small business owners. Do you remember?

Yeah. Yes. Yes. We are open is a freaking great podcast and I just want you to know it exists. Okay. I guess I do now. Okay. So yes.

So that so you want to get the prize. Okay. A couple of quick hits from leave a phone call and then I have to get back to Leslie and then I have a YYZ gourd but leave a phone call says and again I'm gonna ask it as she wrote it because I don't know what it means but what did you do when it wasn't being filmed? Well that's what I'm saying when you you couldn't talk about the game right so you hung out with people right like we had to have lunch, we had meals together. You know, so we but we were supervised. So we would talk about life and, you know, but nothing you didn't want to disclose anything. So it's like you're on a jury. Pardon. It's

like we're on a jury when you're at home, you can't talk about the case or whatever. Right. So we would do that. And then if that wasn't going on, we'd be sent back to our rooms. And again, no TV. I mean, if you had a book, you could do that. But your brain was a bit fried. So either, you know, supervised supervised by the show, not to disclose, and you got to know people that way, or else you'd be back in your room. That's an even more than it would go outside and have cigarettes. But you know, and Levi Fung was so curious about this. She wants to know what do you do at night?

Like is there's what do you do at night? She wants to know what's going on when you're not on the camera. I room hop. I go to I just knock on every guy's door. You can't go out of your room. I think with the guy in season one did and they they got rid of him. You cannot leave your door, your room. They have cameras.

You can't go anywhere. So you, you sit in your room hoping you're not murdered basically. Right. You don't have the most restful sleeps in the world because you think am I going to get murdered? That's scary to be murdered. Yeah, it is. It's gross.

Speaking of murdered. So Levi Fumka says once someone is murdered, she's a big fan of this show by the way. I's gross. Speaking of murdered. So, Lieve Fumke says, once someone is murdered, she's a big fan of this show, by the way. I can tell. I can tell. I got a note from her, like the minute this episode aired, I guess there's a delay, right? Like, so here, the second day it goes on Crave,

but the first day you got to watch it on CTV, I guess. Like- The Crave edit's always better. Oh. Crave edit's always good, yeah. That's a- It's extended by 10 or 15 minutes. So the Crave edit is always really good. And you get swears on the Crave edit? Like, it's good. Yeah. It's extended by 10 or 15 minutes. So the Crave

edit is always really good. And you get swears on the Crave edit. Like you can say, Oh my goodness. I'm going to, yeah, you can swear on the Crave edit. That's a pro tip. Okay. Once someone is murdered or voted out, did you have to stick around until the end of the show? No, as soon as you're murdered, you pack your suitcase or banished and you leave. You leave the manor. I left the manor one or two in the morning and then you go to the hotel or the airport or wherever you're going. So no, you don't stay. You're kicked out. Literally, they escort you. You go do social media and do all that stuff. Then you go to your room. Then a psychologist comes to see you to see if you're okay.

After everything that's interesting. Yeah. And the psychologist was like, Oh my God, are you okay? Cause everybody came for me. And I said, yeah, I'm good. He said, that was intense. And he said, they were laughing so hard in the control room cause it was so bananas. And I said, well, said well how did I come across he said so so strong I said well make good TV he said great TV and I'm like I'm good but yeah they have a psychologist to make sure you're okay and you leave you leave immediately

that's an interesting like wrinkle there that there's an actual psychologist to make sure like I feel like maybe 20 years ago, we didn't bother with that part. Yeah, people use them. Because some people were crying all the time. And mostly guys, I believe it, I believe it. Could you just use them for all the other shit going on in your life that you need to talk about? Like, or did you actually took an extra 15 minutes with him just to run over a few things

that were bugging me. But no, what was his name? Dr. Seymour or something? No, he was great. He was like, that was intense and it was intense. Okay, good. Well, I'm going to get props to who's a production who's behind this? What production? I think it's Entourage Productions out of Montreal. Okay. And it would be it would be CTV. You know, I guess Bell Media. Yeah, yeah, Bell Media.

Well, here I am giving props to Bell media for having a psychologist on staff. I think that's smart. I think legally they have to. Well, yeah, it's intense. It's intense. I'm telling you, like, I saw my episode back and I saw how they edit it. And I was lucky in my edit. It was a bit more stalkerish than I would have liked.

But, you know, when you get into the swamp of this shit, you can imagine how they're going to edit you and I, I would not want that. That's I would not want to stick around for that. And those, those guys are going to get that it's going to get, it's already gotten very ugly. So wow. Okay. I'm good to be gone.

How many episodes is this thing? 10. Okay. So you got through three. Okay. Is there like a reunion show at the end? Like where you get to show up at some kind of this thing? 10. Okay, so you got through three. Okay. Is there like a reunion show at the end? Like where you get to show up at some kind of reunion thing? I don't know.

I think episode three was like, holy shit, this is the best roundtable ever. And the comments were like, you know, Canada season two of Traders Canada is crazy. This is like a bunch of like messy faithfuls. This is great TV. So you never know, right? You never know. We'll see what happens. Well, there are because my wife likes to watch these shows and they always have this kind

of like a reunion at the end, like a live reunion thing where you see, oh, there they are back together. Like what real and then ask the questions I would be asking. Like I go, you know, why did you turn on your friend MJ? What's going on there? And then he gets to answer that. But he's gonna answer that on Toronto Mike. So don't worry about the reunion.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I'll hook you up with him. He's a great guy. Well, it's all three of us. I want all three of us on a zoom. That'll be tons of fun. And he can answer it. Who hosts this show?

Dog with a dog with a bone. This woman called Corrine, she's French Canadian. She's beautiful and dramatic. And she was great. She was so fun. Yeah, she's an actress. Yeah, she's French Canadian. She's beautiful and dramatic and she was great. She was so fun. Yeah, she's an actress. It's all over the top. Yeah, she's an actress.

It's kind of campy and over the top. Well, leave a FAMCA and she gets two more questions and then we move on to the next question. Oh my God. I know. Well, actually this is her last question. I'm cutting you off even though you're a Hall of Famer, Leavey.

Did you ever snicker to yourself about Corrine's outfits? I did. I rolled my eyes a lot. I just was like, it was so hot in the field. It was like a hundred degrees and she had on Vivian Westwood and ball gowns. And I'm like, oh my God, that must be so gross. Cause she had to be out in the sun.

They had a little umbrella to protect her. But I mean, they were funny. I mean, I laughed at some of them. They were just crazy over the top, but I felt for like in this ball gown, it was 110 degrees in a dirt field, but she pulled it off. She pulled it off. So I know people love those outfits.

It's a big part of the show. Absolutely. Okay, now Leslie again, you did address this, but I feel like I owe it to Leslie to ask it again, and maybe you can just revisit it. But what do you think contributed to you being targeted at the roundtable? I think what contributed to it is Enoch got paranoid and delusional. He had no, he had no foundation for it. You know know he was just he was wrong on everything he thought Kira was faithful so his radar was completely off and his

wife told me when he gets something in his head he won't let it go and he just he was like a freight train and he didn't listen right and just you know and and then I found out some stuff like that maybe they weren't going to go for me at the round table. But, yeah, so he had nothing to base it on. And he's a very like, I mean, you know, he's like an athlete, and he's very like, trustworthy. And he was like, getting all these guys together. And you know, me coming out and, and kind of blowing things up, and then I sort of changed direction a little brought Brought heat on me anyway, but people did not want to vote for me. But I wanted to, I had to make a choice, like, am I going to let these guys come get me just sit there? Or am I going to go after them,

and try and change the dynamic. And that's what I decided to do, knowing that I was going to be up for murder. So imagine if I did that show, didn't say anything, that round table, and then they murder me that night. No, thank you. No, like you said, go big or go home. Exactly. So that's what I did. And that's so MJ, right?

Like it's like, I'm not only am I going to give you good TV here, but I'm going out and like shout out to John Bon Jovi. This is a blaze of glory. Oh, it was, it was just, you know, peace out. I'm out of here. Um, so I made that decision and it paid off because watching it back, I found out at the beginning of that episode, I was going to be up for murder and that's my biggest fear. Do not go quietly into that.

Good night. Thank you. So that's what I did. So I was very happy with my exit and a lot of women I did, I've been doing press the last couple of days and they're like, we love that you stood up to the bros and just, you know, blew it up and you got to keep watching because shit's going to go really go down next episode. It's going to be mass bell media should cut me a check. This is the greatest promotion for traders season two you'll find outside of the bell media empire.

Thank you. I'm pausing for applause or something. I don't know what I'm waiting. Well, I'm sure the two people have been asking all the questions are applauding. Well, no more than two people. Come on. Don't don't forget. Peter Meyers.

Right. Um, so, but there's good good there's good mass to come. You got to keep watching because next episode. Whoa, the stuff that goes down next episode is very much related to what happened this episode and it just blows up. Whoa, shout out to Joey Lawrence. Whoa, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. So it was a great experience. I loved it. Well now Leslie wants to know how someone can apply to be on the show. She's been inspired by your involvement How can she be on season three? Do you have any insight into that? You know Leslie go to like just go to CTV because I know they put out casting calls for it

So just go to CTV or crave and look for it and I know they take people that way and then they reach out to people as well So give it a shot that way and see if you can get on the show. We can interview you next year. You know what I thought? Yeah, then then she can come on. I thought you were gonna say Leslie fucking Google it. Leslie fucking Google it. So you're on I noticed the MJ who's pretty much your traders bitch. I don't know.

You're my only link to the show you and E Enoch, I'm going to have them on soon. Okay. Why wise? And this is a good way to wind things down. Um, love it. I know you only have an hour because you're, you've got to be on a breakfast television or something in five minutes. You know, I think that Kimmel's going to go big leagues here.

Okay. I think Johnny Carson's online too. Okay. Might be shadowed Ridley funeral home. Okay. I think Johnny Carson's online too. Okay. Might be. Shout out to Ridley funeral home. Okay. There you go. YYZ Gord. In retrospect, Mary Jo, are you glad you participated on Traders? Yes, YYZ. That's our airport. I'm really happy I participated in it. It was really good for me and it proved my instinct right, which I because you don't

know, right? Like I left early, but in a big, big way and I know I could have gone further, I think. So you have regrets about it to a certain extent because you want to stay on because you know, it's airtime, but you don't want boring airtime. They don't edit you in. And I see how they're doing the edit and they just cut some players out the whole show, then like, why are you there? You know, and I didn't want to overstay my welcome. And I've got a few regrets about things I did,

like one or two, but in general, I love doing it. I think it was, it was so out of character for me to do it. So I'm really glad I did it. I'm thrilled I did it. Well, there's a question from Toronto Mike here. What are your regrets? You said you have a few regrets. I thought you were going to sing a Frank Sinatra song for a moment there. Shut up Paul Anka. But what are your regrets? That's I've had a few my, my, my regrets are just at the round table. Because I came up blazing and then halfway through I'm like, the roundtable thinking, am I ever going to get this platform again on this show to be this, you know, big and should I maybe take this opportunity now to exit in a blaze of glory, right? That's

what I was thinking. Or do I stay in? And there was one or two things I think I could have said to sway the vote because a lot of people didn't vote for me. They were voting for my friend. So in my mind, maybe I could have said something that could have changed it. So that's my regret. I didn't do that at the round table. I didn't say one or two things that I wish I had said, but then you think of it after, you know, in the moment it's hard. So that's you made a call. I actually respect you because you made the call. Like I'm going out in the blades of glory. And I think that's very MJ and that's very cool. That's what I did. And I have to live with it. Yeah.

And at the end of the day, it's just a game. Like it's these murders, even though the psychologist is on the scene, just to let the listenership know, no one really gets murdered. Now, it's not real. But you know what really it is, truthfully, which I found interesting, it's a game against yourself. It's how you act in pressure, how you make decisions, how you show up, and you see, you know, and, and like I said, I'd hate to be in episode eight and just be slimy and swampy and gross. And I didn't get that. And I can see people are getting that and I have no interest in that. So it was a win-win for me at the end of the day. It was great.

When I said the question was coming from YYZ Gord, who has a second question, you wanted to let the people know listening that YYZ or YYZ as I like to say it is our airport. Do you think anyone's listening to this episode of Toronto Mike to does not know that YYZ is our airport? Dr. Julie Penner Well, I don't know, I don't live here anymore. So I just wanted to do the shout out. I think it's cute. His it's YYZ identifies with the airport. That's wrong anymore. So I just wanted to do the shout out. I think it's cute. His it's y y z. He identifies with the airport. That's wrong identification. So I know that was kind of cute. Absolutely. Lax. I don't know. It's adorable. Adorable. And on previous episodes of Toronto Mike, you've been very clear you're never going to live in Toronto again. you never know. You've been very adamant.

Like you hate Toronto. Well, the last few times I've been in Toronto, I've had a nice time. Oh my gosh. And since I want to cross point and promote another episode of senior bitches, your fine podcast, I just want to say that David furnish episode was unbelievable. Firstly and secondly, just the mind blow of how your childhood friends of Elton John's husband here in Toronto, like just a wonderful conversation. Yeah, I think people should revisit David Furnish and Jeannie Beckers got her book coming

out and we did a great interview with her. That was beautiful. Jan Arden always. Yeah, a couple of Jan Arden's and, you know, Alanis Stewart. I mean, we had great people, Captain Jason, the millionaire matchmaker. So people should really check it out. Jan Arden might be God's gift to podcasts, which is why I don't need her. I can do it myself. MJ, you say so you and Ridley funeral home can definitely do. Oh, one last note before I get to the last question here.

I just want you to know, MJ, while you're in Toronto, maybe this is more for your mom. Maybe I should have you put your mom on. But if your mom's got like a drawer or a closet full of old cables, old electronics, old devices, I don't want your mom throwing that in the garbage because those chemicals end up in our landfill. I want your mom to go to RecycleMyElectronics dot CA. Find out where there's a place near her. She can

drop that off to be properly recycled. Okay, I'll tell her right now. Put her on. I have a message for her. She's having a martini. I'll let her know. It's still morning. It's still that doesn't matter. Okay, shake it not stirred. Okay What was your favorite experience so the two the the time you spent in Quebec filming traders season two now available on Crave What was your favorite experience? Oh And people please go to my Instagram Mary Jo Eustace and follow me, please. Absolutely. I have a sub stack called Senior Bitches, which is great. And it's free. You can always upgrade to paid, but it's real.

I tell lots of secrets there about lots of things. My favorite. I think that my favorite parts of traders were in the car, you know, and connecting with people and doing the challenges because we as a group, I love car, you know, and connecting with people and doing the challenges because we as a group, I love that, you know. And look, it's like don't judge a book by its cover. Because you you know, you assess people and you think this that and the other then you

get to know them and their stories and it's a whole different ballgame. So just unraveling all the different people and getting to know them. And it was like summer camp for adults So I really enjoyed it, but I loved working as a team when we worked as a team That was really fun and who from this show will you still be friends with in one year's time? I think Kirkland Dylan. I really like I really like Gail I love Enoch I think those guys probably the most.

In Enoch's defense that he'll turn there, I just want to remind you that he was a professional football player. There might be a CTE at play here. So I don't want to laugh at that. That's a very serious thing, but that might've explained this turn against RMJ. You can ask him, boy, is he regretting it. Oh, heartbreak. To be discussed on Toronto mic, absolutely. Now, as we say goodbye, MJ, you're lovely. Thanks for inviting me for a Starbucks coffee or something

while you're in my city. You're welcome, I hope you enjoyed it. But now that you've got all this like exposure and people are like rediscovering MJ and senior bitches and your, your, your persona, how do you leverage this? Like what's next? I feel like there's a, I don't know, there's something bigger now looming for MJ that she's got all this press. I think so. Like I, I do want to have people come back to senior bitches or podcast for sure. You know, that's, that's really important. And I actually have two shows that I'm working on.

And in the next few months, I'll know if you know, they go when you know, which would be so fun. And what would be around aging, and traveling and meeting and interviewing people. So you know, I'm working hard on that. But you know, we'll come back to the podcast, the Substack Senior Bitches and stuff is just starting to filter through again, which is great. And then you can go to Amazon and watch What's for Dinner? Prime Canada and you can see what's for dinner. So do that.

That's a good start, don't you think? Well, Bob Willett says, hot dogs are for dinner and breakfast. I can still visualize him eating a hot dog at 530 in the morning. And also, I'm just, I got a text from him. He says, with all these new shows that are in development, that might be happening for you, can you, you got a job for him? He's unemployed, so he needs a gig. Oh yeah. I'll look into that for sure. I will. Mary Jo Eustice, always a pleasure. Love talking to you. Thank you. Well, we're going to get together soon. I'll put a word in for you with Jan, not. And let's get together and do more episodes. I'm compiling some guests now,

because we love doing it. So that. And that brings us to the end of our 1,560 second show. You can go to torontomike.com to follow me. I'm all over social media, but it sounds like Instagram is the place you go to follow Mary Jo Eustis. So go do that right now and then subscribe to her sub stack and then subscribe to senior bitches and then come back here when you're done. Okay. Much love to all who made

this possible. Again, that's Great Lakes Brewery. Listen to Between Two Fermenters, their fine podcast. Palma Pasta, they're hosting us November 30th from noon to three at Palma's kitchen. Everyone who can hear me is invited. Free food, free drink. Come by. We're recording live. RecycleMyElectronics.ca. Raymond James Canada. Minaris, season 7, dropping now, yes we are open, and Ridley Funeral Home. See you all tomorrow when we record Toast, we're kicking out Harvest Jams with Rob Pruse and Hut Dog Lovin, proud FM program director, but apparently not gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Bob Willett, see you all then.