Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Vasectomy Jams: Toronto Mike'd #773

Episode Date: December 18, 2020

This 40th Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out vasectomy jams with Cam Gordon and Stu Stone....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Peter, it's the male equivalent of a woman getting her tubes tied, except it's actually a lot quicker and safer. Let these guys explain. A vasectomy's a medical procedure. One that makes you half a man. You're half a man. Remember when you twisted up your garden hose? Well, essentially that is the plan.
Starting point is 00:00:28 That is the plan. It's time now for Pandemic Fridays, starring Toronto Mike, Stu Stone, and Cam Gordon. What up, Miami? Toronto. VK on the beat, uh-huh, check, uh-huh I'm in Toronto where you wanna get the city love I'm from Toronto where you wanna get the city love
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Starting point is 00:02:10 are Stu Stone Yes. and Cam Gordon. Hey Mike, how are your testicles? Let's just get right into it. How are they hanging? Okay, so yes. This is the vasectomy episode. Hey, Mike, how are your testicles? Let's just get right into it. How are they hanging?
Starting point is 00:02:28 Okay, so yes, this is the vasectomy episode. We're going to kick out vasectomy jams. The one when he had a vasectomy. The jams. Is that a friend's title? The one where he had a vasectomy, right? I think that is an episode, right? Joey?
Starting point is 00:02:40 No, I don't know. So I don't know, my friends, but I do know... Your voice is sounding a little bit higher today. A couple of octaves up. Like Gary Farrell on the mic here. I had a vasectomy this morning, and really quickly... You're already back to work. Actually, the doctor said, don't do anything for two days. And I even said something like, oh, can I do computer work?
Starting point is 00:03:04 And then he said, well, don't do that tonight, but maybe later tomorrow if you're feeling better, you could do some computer work. So I'm breaking all the rules here, guys. What's that famous basketball play where the guy came injured off the bench? We all know who it was. Clay Thompson? No.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Oh, because I'm thinking you're talking Kirk Gibson, but that's not a basketball player. That works too. That works too. I'm just saying my point is you're coming in, you're hurt, you're back in the game. The flu game. You're finishing the damn match.
Starting point is 00:03:35 You know what I mean? Kudos to you. You're a tough man. You went to the trainer. They gave you some stitches. You're back out on the ice to finish the damn game. And, Mike, I'm hearing rumors there There was actually Twitter user, DJ Dream Doctor, who did the honors today.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Is that accurate? Yeah, it was him and Dr. Pepper. They tag teamed it. But like, let me just say a few facts for anyone out there who has been like contemplating getting a vasectomy or been delaying this maybe because of COVID and stuff. I'm just going to let you all know. And I know a lot of FOTMs reached out and said hey i got it it's nothing shout out to bingo bob shout out to uh i know that uh al grego who did not pick you guys for
Starting point is 00:04:15 his best of episode which is weird because you even titled this like toronto mike episode what didn't it have an episode number this is not like a a sub. Yeah, yeah, you know. Well, it's not a true kick out the jams, remember. We learned that last week. It's not a true one, but it is one of my favorites. Shout out also to Mike Rogotsky, who had the procedure. But I'm just here to let everybody know, minimal pain. Yeah, it hurts a bit while he's doing his thing down there. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:04:43 There's a little blood. You know, you got to take care of it for about a week here. Ball blood? There's blood, but not a lot. I'm not sure that's an honest question. Is it ball blood or is it? Yeah, so it's the scrotum. We call it.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Scrotum blood. I use doctor words. And Stu, just on a production note, Cam is now a lot louder than you. I just want you to know. Okay. And I know we're on the fly. Okay. How about now? Ball blood. I just want you to know. Okay. And I know we're on the fly. Okay. How about now?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Ball blood. Scrotum blood. Yes. Can you hear me? I have, yes. I have scrotum blood. So the procedure is not that bad. Is that a different colored blood or is it regular?
Starting point is 00:05:17 It's blue, yeah. Blue. It depends what's going on. He's just frustrated. Yeah. There's too many jokes if you tell me it's blue blood, but it is red blood. And, you know, it was not that big a deal.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Like, I'm feeling okay. I have ice on it right now. Okay. I would show you. This is really interesting and ironic. For a lot of reasons, I speak on behalf of Cam and myself, that it's about time that you experience what it's like to do a toronto mic episode with your balls freezing very good when and both did you
Starting point is 00:05:53 write that joke was it like a couple of days ago it just came right out but yes unlike you you know that's not what you're gonna be able to say okay if any fotms are delaying it because they're afraid it might hurt or something silly like that i'm here to tell you it's honestly it's a few pinches there's a little tugging uh there's a part of it where you feel like maybe you took like you're playing softball and you took one in the gonads you know what i mean like you know a hot borders type deal right but you think it's a little pinch in a tug a little pinch you went for a pinching tug it's a bit of pinching a bit of tug's a little pinch and a tug? A little pinch. You went for a pinch and tug? It's a bit of pinching, a bit of
Starting point is 00:06:27 tugging, a little bruising, but you know what? When it's all said and done, it's a mild ache. I'm not even on Advil. They make you buy, so it's all covered by OHIP, but they make you buy this $50 kit, which you got to pay cash. I paid on my credit card, whatever. You have to pay
Starting point is 00:06:43 money. In this kit, there's some gauze for you there's a few like this all guys there's some um advil but you know the total value of the kit is probably like 8.99 but you pay 50 bucks that's where they get you sounds like something you buy at a truck stop like sort of you know for long-haul truckers. Like sleep aids. Like sleep easy. No does. Truckers need gauze?
Starting point is 00:07:12 You never know, I guess. Big rigs. Some oozing there. So if you guys have any questions throughout, and again, leave a thumpka. I have some questions. So now you're just shooting blanks? I don't know what I'm shooting because I'm supposed to go a week
Starting point is 00:07:28 before I do anything like that. Hypothetically speaking, now your gun shoots blanks. All juice, no swimmers. Starter pistol. It's 100% juice, but no swimmers in there. But this is the thing, right? In 12 weeks, because there% juice but no swimmers in there but this is the thing right in 12 weeks
Starting point is 00:07:46 because there's a storage of swimmers that I have like I could be swimming I could have swimmers for the next few weeks that were in storage before the snip oh because you didn't empty out properly well I did my best but you know there's a big reserve there like before you go in do they make you empty
Starting point is 00:08:01 no no no they just make you shave yourself so you gotta be I mean we've been asking you to do that for they make you empty? No, no, no. They just make you shave yourself. Finally. I mean, we've been asking you to do that for weeks. It's like a juggle sometimes. It makes me wonder how I keep them going under. So I know this is a little TMI, but I think it's respectful to the process.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Okay, so I'm fully shaved. That's the process. Right. I'm fully shaved. I have to wait 12 weeks. Pictures or it didn't happen. I'll show you but again on his only fans account in 12 weeks basically i go to my local uh blood place uh whatever and your local byway yeah to get my to deliver my sample so in 12 weeks i will produce a sample of my semen
Starting point is 00:08:41 yeah into a thing a little jar thing. Now, is that like the type of thing where you use your imagination, or do they provide you with something to look at? Like, how does that work? Is this like a close-your-eyes job, or is it like that? You're on your own for that.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Just basically, I need to fill up this jar, deliver it in 12 weeks. I can't fill it up for 12 weeks because we've got to let the reserve empty. And then they test it. And if it comes back that there's no swimmers, then this is the way it works. You're good to go, but they don't ever say 100% because actually there's a one in 3,000 chance that even if I have no swimmers in the test in 12 weeks, I could produce a child. So I have a one in 3,000. And a little fun fact, Cam actually is, he beat those odds.
Starting point is 00:09:27 He was the one in 3,000 that got through. His father, like his father before him. So it's a Scottish thing. So Mike, that thing you just said, the one in 3,000, is that like all time or is that just sort of in the immediate? No, all time. But the doctor, when he was telling me that, he was saying like, what are you using right now? And I said, oh, my wife's on the birth control pill. And he said, the odds of failure for the birth control pill are much higher than one in 3000. So our current
Starting point is 00:09:59 method has a much higher failure rate than the vasectomy. Mike, I have a question. Yes, Stuart, yes. So you said that's a one in 3,000. So let's just say hypothetically, you were to use a term from 70s game shows, if you were to make whoopee 3,000 times, one time you'd actually get the shot through? I don't think that's how that math works.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I think one in 3,000 individuals will be able to... You have to have Whoopi with 3,000 partners? I think 3,000 of his patients have to... Yeah. What kind of doctor is this? His name is Dr. Nick Riviera. He's very highly regarded. But actually, no, it was an Oakville guy.
Starting point is 00:10:40 It was on Ford Drive in Oakville. A nice clinic and i was and he was did you stop for some barbecue strip mall but it's all done i just have to recover now anyway i uh if anyone has questions and leave a funk i know she's uh a guest of ours on the zoom call here if she has a question now is the time leave a funk i have a question, now is the time, Lieve Fumke. I have a question, Mike. What do they do with your shaft and head while the boys are getting snipped away? What happens to that?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Does someone come and sort of handle it and hold it back? Is it like a tuck it under the underwear elastic kind of gimmick? No. Sort of like a Red hot chili peppers thing you know the doctor first of all i never i didn't watch like i looked at the ceiling the whole time well the doctor had the spotlight on it and everything but i think he just lays it to the side like if you you know so the you have enough of a weight there to lay something to the side i guess that would work i mean that's what i'm getting out of this. There's a big splat.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I just wrap it around my waist, Stu. That's what I was thinking. But for real, don't they make you wrap it in something, like some cold compress or something? No, no, no, no. You could make a Gorgon's knot out of it. Doc knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:12:04 He pushes the guy to the side so that he can get at the scrotum knows what he's doing. He pushes the guy to the side so that he can get at the scrotum because he's doing all that where the scrotum meets the shaft. That's where the action is. You know what? That is a general rule, by the way. The scrotum right near the shaft,
Starting point is 00:12:17 that is where the action is. Again, so far I looked at the gauze because I have to change the gauze periodically. There's blood, but minimal blood. The pain is like a dull ache right now. It's like I got kicked in the balls earlier today. It's dull ache and I'm not going to complain about it even for a second.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I just look forward to in 12 weeks time. It's afterwards. The benefit is that you can just make whoopee whenever you want to. I've already got that. The benefit is that the woman I love can stop taking the birth control pill. Like that's it.
Starting point is 00:12:49 For her. No, it's 100% for her because she's 39 years old and we have decided as a mature couple that we've decided we're 100% done. Enough's enough. We're done. Like I've had four kids.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Like she might have a third, but that would be my fifth. Like I can't do five. So we're done. So instead of her having to take this pill right now you're missing a player so this is all yeah it's absolutely because it's not like oh you know we're gonna stop having to buy condoms no it just means she can go off the pill if this test comes back in 12 weeks and like there's no swimmers she goes off the pill
Starting point is 00:13:21 and i'm now the birth control guy because I'm not producing swimmers. So like that, that shows like a lot of love. Like obviously you just, you know, cut your balls off so that she didn't have to take a pill. No, a hundred percent. The only reason I did it and I don't want to make myself sound better. Like it's like, it's the least I could do is what I would say. No, I think that's very sweet.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Thank you. I have a question about Levi Famke, if I may ask. Does one, is he going to cut off his nuts for you? Or is this just a mic thing? Leave Lieve Femke out of this. The poor girl. I'm going to do this for MF someday. I'm hoping all this positive talk about how easy it was would convince him.
Starting point is 00:14:04 You just want to like see him go through the process. You know what though? You know what he won't like, Levi, which is what I don't like, which is I've been told not to bike for seven days. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah. That would be. You're biking right now. Yeah. I biked a lot yesterday. I bike, I'm out there biking, but not for seven days because it needs to.
Starting point is 00:14:22 You bike in like minus 10? Oh yeah. I layer up in fact i saw vp of sales yesterday i biked to his house yesterday to deliver some deliver some cashola to the man and uh i saw i saw vp of sales uh i biked to his place isn't your face frozen i have a balaclava and i wear layers and i have boots instead of shoes so what now a balaclava yeah you don't cam explain to him what a balaclava is. I've heard of baklava.
Starting point is 00:14:47 That's a delicious tea. It's like the toque that covers your face. So like a robber's mask. Yeah, it goes under my helmet. That's called a balaclava? It's also the second Limlifter album.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I've never heard that term. Do you remember that? There's a guy with a balaclava. Okay, before I forget, and I need to get serious in a moment here because at some point I have to segue to a serious topic, but not that vasectomies aren't serious, but we can have fun with it.
Starting point is 00:15:12 But did anyone on this Zoom call, did any of you hear my conversation with Mike Treblecock from the Killjoys? I have it downloaded. I will be listening to it i listened okay thank you because uh if you like you know you know we like our 90s can con old rock here uh that's a deep dive into killjoys i thought it was really good go ahead yeah that's that's all i have to say you know we've said this before but you know cam and i at our high school there was a Killjoys concert at our high school.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Wow. That was a big deal at our school. Sure. We wanted to go to the Killjoys show. Yeah, I feel like that was the only real concert. Like, Moxie Fruvis would come once a year to play an annual show because they were very indebted to the music teacher there, Mr. Leonard, who was even thanked in a lot of the moxie proof is out but yeah
Starting point is 00:16:05 killjoy's played when they put out their second album uh the one with raven drool and uh soaked on it whatever that one was called yeah the story is the first one and uh the second one i shouldn't i just talked i think it's called give me five give me five yeah yeah mike's wearing the hat on the cover yeah that was a big like It really was eye-opening. It was eye-opening once again. I mean, this seems to be a pattern, but like, you know, Christmas keeps getting ruined for us every time you have a CanCon 90s rock legend on because we learn behind the scoop, behind the scenes, the ugly truth of what it really is.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I mean, it's just he sounds like he has some fond memories of it of course but listen it had to be a good time and and and the good news is it sounded like he was down to do our uh can conchella event uh it sounds like he's down to be the killjoys for us when we throw that event so that that to me that's that's a big victory no doubt no doubt and you're absolutely right sometimes i feel like we know too much like we were better when we were young and dumb and ignorant because uh hearing how like how our rock heroes were compensated in this country and all the record company bullshit like he says you know you don't like for example when mike travelcock talks about how when you get a record deal with warner big fucking company warner canada i was signed to
Starting point is 00:17:24 warner brothers same shit. Yeah, he's like, it's really a loan. They give you money, but then they, okay, $30,000 for the video, $100,000 for marketing. And next thing you know, you got nothing. Yes. And then you only get 11% of the profits. So it's like an 89-11 split. And it's not like he's a solo artist.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And you have to split that 11 between the five members of the band and the manager the accountant and the wives and the kids need to go to school and this one wants to go to private school and that one needs swimming lessons right right so it's it's all uh it's all yeah so there that happened but here let me let me get very serious for a moment if you guys don't mind before we kick out these vasectomy jams get very serious for a moment, if you guys don't mind, before we kick out these vasectomy jams. Stu, we've been talking for months about faking a murderer
Starting point is 00:18:07 and most FOTMs have seen it. There's some lingering FOTMs who still need to make that happen and I hope they do it ASAP. But when you do watch it again, or if you've already watched it like most of you. I wasn't sure where you were going with this. Yeah, well, that's why I said we're getting
Starting point is 00:18:23 serious here because there's a police officer in the... I will say this, Stu, and then you're going to speak to this because you directed the movie, you know everything here, but I found Faking a Murderer interesting in that I could never tell who was in on it. Who's the actor and who's the real-life person who's into this mockumentary and don't know they're in a mockumentary?
Starting point is 00:18:43 I could never tell if this police officer... he was one of the people that didn't know that what was going on and the you know every police station shut us down we called and contacted all every police station asking for a ride-along we said we're shooting a movie we want to do a ride-along and like everybody was saying like nope no thank you pass we're not doing that. And Peel Region was like, hey, well, we got this guy that would be great. He would take you on a ride-along. And it was this officer. Constable Bancroft Wright. Yeah, Constable Wright.
Starting point is 00:19:18 He's like 6'7". He has a silky smooth voice, which I was able to highlight in the film. And he was supposed to be with us for 20 minutes, and we drove around for hours with the guy. He was just really, really, really cool. And he probably thought we were fucking idiots. He just still kind of went along. He just humored himself and humored us, I guess. We never told him to say this or say that.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So he just was reacting normal like the way he would. We showed him the video and he was like, you guys have nothing. Which is fine because we had nothing. What I want to know, and again, sadly, like tragically, Constable Wright passed away. He passed away, which is shocking. This is a healthy guy. I guess, I don't know. The only thing that I've been able to find out
Starting point is 00:20:10 was that there was some sort of sudden health complications of some kind. But I just know from everybody that we spoke to and certainly our experience with him, he was just an incredible guy. You could not not see him. I mean, not just because he was six foot seven and like this giant man with a giant booming voice, but just his personality was even bigger than he was. You know, it's like, he was not like a shy, quiet guy. He was,
Starting point is 00:20:38 he loved to talk about sports with us. I know that he was a regular caller on Bob McCowan. He's a friend of Toronto Mike, the Bob McCowan show for years. He would call in with his voice and I didn't, we discovered that after the fact, but I totally remember him doing like being a caller. And of course, you know, he's obviously a police officer in the Peel region for 18 years and he was
Starting point is 00:21:01 promoted to the media spokesperson. That's how we ended up with him. But you know, anytime anything bad was going on in the community, for 18 years and he was promoted to the media spokesperson. That's how we ended up with him. But, you know, anytime anything bad was going on in the community, he was the one that had to face the media or go on CP24 or make unfortunate announcements or say some good news about a toy driver or whatever was going on. But he's definitely going to be missed. Obviously, we hung with him for one crazy night, but it's one that I'll remember forever.
Starting point is 00:21:22 for one crazy night, but it's one that I'll remember forever. Stu, do you know if Constable Wright ever saw his performance in Faking a Murderer? You know, I don't know. That's the crazy part. I haven't spoken to him, obviously, so I'll never know whether he ended up seeing it. That's kind of sad,
Starting point is 00:21:40 but if people want to see the kind of guy he was, you can watch the genuine him in our movie. This is not like a cheap plug, but you can watch the movie and see that this guy – and I'm telling you right now, he was not in on anything. This guy gave us his time and treated us like the shitheads that we are. What a loss. I'm sorry to hear this. Yeah, it's very sad. And he's got family, obviously, and friends and colleagues.
Starting point is 00:22:08 18 years, you're a cop for 18 years. You obviously have some sort of reputation at that point, right? And a lot of friends in the media because on my Twitter feed, it was just popcorn. People are like, this guy was the guy,
Starting point is 00:22:19 he was so patient with us and we'd go to him and we needed this information. And then I found out via Twitter that he was so patient with us and we'd go to him and we needed this information. And then, then I found out via Twitter that, uh, he was the same guy. Cause I didn't realize that that, that officer that we were mourning was the same guy who was in faking a
Starting point is 00:22:35 murderer. Mind blow right there. Wow. Yeah, that is a shame that that's the way it had to be a mind blow, but he will be missed. And a pandemic Fridays, uh, shouts him out in his honor. The show will go on here, but I love him.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I only knew him for that brief amount of time. And like I said, I'll remember it for the rest of my life. So he was kind of like the Cam Woolley of sorts of Peel Region, I guess, like the face. Because, yeah, like when I saw the photo, I was sort of shocked. He wasn't an actor, but that's like, I sort of, once I sort of like read some of the tweets and stuff, I'm like, Oh, okay. Yeah. I've seen this guy. He's just, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:16 what does people just see commenting on like car crashes or whatever, like is happening in that region just as someone who's on Twitter all day. But yeah yeah it sucks girl it's that special time of year the festival of lights but ain't no light shine brighter than the one in your eyes got a week and a day of love for you, this Hanukkah girl. This is a special request for you, Stu Stone. This is Boys to Menorah. How much I care.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And this is the... Last night of Hanukkah tonight. So tell us, please, tell us, ignorant Gentiles, is there anything significant on that final night? Like, is this a big one? It is. It's a huge night. We get to significant on that final night? Like, is this a big one? It is. It's a huge night. We get to go on Zoom with our friends.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I thought that was this. Can we technically still break your balls? Do you still have balls to break? Oh yeah, for the record, because there's been some misunderstanding. I still have my testicles. I just want to say that on the record. I have my testicles. Well, that's breaking news because we never knew you had those. So that's new. He was not castrated. No. Clear. Well, that's breaking news because we never knew you had those. So that's new.
Starting point is 00:24:25 He was not castrated. No. Clear. Right, right. As far as I know, Dr. Rivera. Well, I can say Cam, who grew up in a very Jewish neighborhood, maybe Cam can tell you what is so important about Hanukkah. Okay, talk to me, Cam.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Day eight. Well, you know, Hanukkah is the festival of lights. True. You know, it represents, you know, that epic journey through the festival of lights. True. It represents that epic journey through the desert. Nope. The menorah represents... I'll just say there was some oil.
Starting point is 00:24:55 There was a very minimal amount of oil. They had to preserve it over seven days. That's true. That is true. Some of the treats... My favorite treat is, of course, the latke. Yeah, the potato pancake. Delicious, very savory.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I'm actually going to make some on the – honest to God, this is true. I'm going to make some on the weekend. MF is – I don't think has ever had one. It's my daughter's birthday on Saturday. Oh, so you're going to have birthday latkes. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Why not? Yeah. A lot of kids would get sort of eight days of gifts i feel like that's maybe gone away or it does when you're sort of older does that still happen like did your nephews still get eight days of gifts i think like they probably just do it all like on the on like the one day and then they're getting too old for it anyway i mean i just got them like little gift cards for their Xbox. Sure. It's not, it's not the same anymore. If you're going to do it on one day,
Starting point is 00:25:49 would you do it the first night or the eighth night? Well, I mean, due to, you know, a pandemic, you can barely do any night, but in the old days, uh, back in 2019 and before that, uh, you know, you would get together with the family, I guess, on the opening night would be the night to do it. some more religious you know i'm jewish there's people who are really jewish that probably do it every night in the prayers and my mom is going to come home here at some point and she's going to light the candles and sing a song oh maybe we'll get that to happen live on the on the show oh amazing like have a nagila or what he's going to sing a have a nagila type of type
Starting point is 00:26:23 of song yeah some klezmer okay that'll be exciting it's a prayer to keep all of us we'll have to pause the vasectomy jams to have that wonderful moment there that sounds amazing for your a prayer for your balls okay we got first first jams your balls we got to get to these jams we got to get to these jams but uh one bugs bunny can we talk about him for five seconds? Yeah. Well, here, I'll play a clip that'll introduce it. Did I pull it in?
Starting point is 00:26:48 Hold on. I pulled it in. Oh. Oh, you can pull it out now. Stand by. Here we go. Listen for 10 seconds here. You're the best Toronto, Mike.
Starting point is 00:27:00 My favorite of all the interviews, Doc. This is the one. I'm all warmed up now. I'm an open book. Stu, did you listen to the B. I'm all warmed up now. I'm an open book. Stu, did you listen to the Bugs Bunny? Yeah, I did. Very impressive, by the way. He's just like...
Starting point is 00:27:14 He's so good. His impression of Eugene Levy is like... This guy should be doing like Andre Phillip gang, y'all type of show. You know, he should open up the next stadium and sing with Robin thick.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Wow. That was a good cut. No, I, but I totally get it. Yeah. That's the sky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:36 But I got to tell you, uh, he's very impressive. Um, you know, listen, there's these voice. I do consider myself a voice actor,
Starting point is 00:27:44 but there are guys like him who have really dominated the craft and guys like him who, it's like you're talking to him and he just starts breaking into voices. You know, it's like, I don't, that's, I'm not there. Maybe at some point I was there,
Starting point is 00:27:58 but he's really there, right? He's like on top of his game. He's just, is he doing Bugs Bunny with LeBron James in Space Jam? Yes. You know what's funny? I was so excited to talk about Byway and stuff that I actually completely forgot to dive deep into the fact that he's in Space Jam with LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Yeah, and he for sure met LeBron James and like worked with him. You know, it's like this guy is living the life. And, you know, that's the top of the voiceover mountain. You know, he did say that, you know, he would love to do his own original characters, which I'm sure he will do. But the fact that he can do these impressions, there's like a skill there because he really does sound like Bugs Bunny. Obviously, he's the fucking voice of Bugs Bunny now. But that Eugene Levy is just like, it's crazy. It sounds just like him.
Starting point is 00:28:41 But Stu, I know, I know, Cam, you haven't got to this episode yet, right? Which you should because your name dropped in this thing. But I will, what struck me, Stu, is that, and look at how things have turned around. Now I'm talking to you about the Toronto Mic'd episodes instead of Cam. I feel like that's- Yeah, easy, easy.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I'll be back. He'll be back. But like you're talking to the guy because he's Bugs Bunny and he's working with LeBron James and he's in California and doing all these voices. He's Stimpy. He's doing a whole bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:04 But then the core of that episode and what made it rock to me is and he's in California and doing all these voices. He's Stimpy. He's doing a whole bunch of stuff. But then the core of that episode and what made it rock to me is that he's one of us, man. He's us. Yeah, that's the thing I felt like right off the bat. He was kind of doing that thing that like when I was living in L.A. and I was speaking to Canadian press about something, he was doing that like the first thing I do is go to Swiss Chalet, Festive Specialeroom baby yeah let's go to harvey's hooker harvey's yeah man like just name dropping like whatever you can just to let them know that you and he dropped all the right things you know he
Starting point is 00:29:34 checked every proper box his story checks out he is you know he he's he's the real deal and he's a legend man he's he's he's bugs bunny but beyond that he's super super talented and he's a legend, man. He's Bugs Bunny, but beyond that, he's super, super talented. And he's working with Kish. They do voices both of them. In Africa? No, Japan. Oh. But they're both in like a TMNT.
Starting point is 00:29:55 It's not, I thought it might be a reboot of coming out of their shells, but it's not. But they're doing voices and they've agreed, both of them have agreed to do another Toronto Mic'd episode in early 2021 where I have Kish and uh bugs bunny i call him bugs his name's eric bowser but we i have them on at the same time king bowser yeah that's right anyway amazing episode people should listen to it uh i do want to address one thing with cam real quick here before we kick out our first game yes i do want to thank you by the way because know, the way that you, the pedestal that you put me on is so, it's so special.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And to hear the way that you speak about me to these other guests with such reverence, Mike, it's like, you know, it's rare that you find somebody that you connect with on this level that truly gets you as a human being as an artist as a philanthropistic person but no for real all bullshit aside you know you telling the guy who does the voice of bugs bunny that you know ralphie from the magic school that's crazy he's probably like oh that's great but like no you's just very sweet. It's very sweet. You're the man. I'm the mensch on a bench. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Now, what I thought was a great Stu Stone moment in that episode was the fact that he's got that side hustle called Retro Kid. Yeah. And he's got the,
Starting point is 00:31:18 he's going to make me a byway shirt like he's doing these hilarious House of Freidenstein prints. And I'm totally serious. We're going to get some Sluggers shirts produced. That would be sick. You and him are going to
Starting point is 00:31:29 collaborate. That would be really cool. It'll be like the uniform of FOTMs when we have our next TMLX. Maybe we can get him to make Pandemic Friday shirts. Oh my god. See, now that we have this powerful FOTM out there in California.
Starting point is 00:31:45 The possibilities are endless. Cam, I don't need you to speak to powerful FOTM out there in California. In the schmata business. The possibilities are endless. Cam, I don't need you to speak to this with your professional hat, but just as a member of the great FOTM, I guess I'm really speaking to listeners that at some point in early 2021, we're going to have to find a new
Starting point is 00:32:02 live streaming strategy for this program. Right, yes. The deprecation of Periscope. Yeah, it's coming March 2021. Wait, what's happening? Going away? Yeah. No, deprecation is a big word.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Let's use dumb words for people. They're going to basically stop the service, right? Yeah, I mean, it's basically be fully integrated. I mean, I think a lot of people have found it confusing. You know, there's Twitter live and anyone can just go live on Twitter. But then there's still Periscope as a separate app, which we obviously we use on pandemic, pandemic, pandemic. So Twitter's getting a vasectomy and just get cutting. Right. But of course. In essence, you know, we're going to call Dr. Rivera in March. But yeah, I mean, this, this is really just, I mean, this is kind of the end game of, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:02 Twitter when we first acquired Periscope. That was, that was really like weeks before I started at Twitter. Like, it seems like it was a decade ago, but that was, that was a faithful South by Southwest in 2015. So,
Starting point is 00:33:18 yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people sort of saw this coming and now just, I mean, we would, there's a whole blog post about this. If any listeners want more, you can just tweet at me but in a nutshell uh in a nutshell we're not really put things in a nutshell anymore can you this this episode's gonna be full of great lines like that
Starting point is 00:33:37 uh in a nutshell uh toronto mic'd episodes which have been you know live streamed on periscope for years now are gonna have to find a new home and. And I'll be very honest with you all. My struggle is I play songs that are unlicensed. So in this episode, you might hear something from the Beatles, for example, on this episode. If I'm live on YouTube or Facebook, I often get flagged and you get warnings and then you can get booted off and breaking the rules. For whatever reason, Periscope never gave a damn.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Okay? So I always considered it like a little slice of the dark web that the lawyers forgot about and let me go play my music without permission. So that's the wild card here.
Starting point is 00:34:24 It's not like I can just say, okay, from now on we live stream on YouTube. What about Instagram live? Well, I mean, I have to find something that lets me go multi-camera. I would say Twitter live, but I can't go multi-camera with my current setup and go live.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I remember that was kind of your first piece of feedback for me. The fact that that's your struggle with Twitter live and Twitter studio product. Right. like remember i'm not just on a smartphone pressing a button and going live like i've got multiple cameras i've got audio different audio source because i want it to sound as good as this so basically i might have to i'll try things like i might try twitch i might try some different video streaming services until we find one that works
Starting point is 00:35:04 there's a few different options. I guess you have three months. You guys can probably take this offline. Yeah, I think so. By the way, did you catch our other Twitter news this week? I just tweeted about it a couple hours ago. Okay, remind me. I might have missed it.
Starting point is 00:35:19 This is the details on what the return of our verification process will look like. I know Stu Stone is verified, so that makes me happy. Stu Stone is verified. Many of your FOTMs are verified, past guests. So yeah, some people may recall
Starting point is 00:35:38 we put this officially on pause I think it was over three years ago now, but we will be bringing back our program and our verification portal. So as of late January, I believe the 21st is the date we were scheduled to come back. If anyone wants to apply to be verified,
Starting point is 00:35:57 you can do it right in the app now. Wow, that's exciting. I think Levi Fumka is going to do that right away. Yeah, obviously it does not apply to Stu Stone because he's already got that blue tick. I do. This is easily the number one question I've fielded over the years. Say an account gets repeated, repeated, repeated warnings for spreading false information. At some point, does that account get deleted or banned?
Starting point is 00:36:21 Are you talking to the president? If there's repeated terms of service violations. Is getting your tweets flagged, is that a terms of service breach? You know, maybe you can check in with a... I think I see where this might
Starting point is 00:36:37 be heading. Maybe I'll just ask you again January 21st. Okay. All right. We'll move on from that. So thank you for that update. So that's the Periscope update. That was so fucking telegraphed. Thank you. I know. So I look forward to more news from me
Starting point is 00:36:52 as to where you can find us live streaming in 2021, but we are going to migrate off of Periscope because we have to. So let me thank a few sponsors and we're going to kick out this first jam. Vasectomy Jams. I can't wait to get to them. Sammy Cohn, drummer for The Watchmen. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:08 If you go to drummingupresults.com, you can find out how you can make a trade with Sammy. A real estate inquiry in exchange for a free drum lesson. Best deal in Canada. Amazing. Drummingupresults.com. Have you done it yet, Stu? I have not drummed up any results yet,
Starting point is 00:37:25 but I will say that I've recommended it. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. You're related to a real estate agent, aren't you? I'm related, but my sister doesn't give drum lessons. So Sammy sounds like a pretty good drummer. Even though he doesn't like yacht rock, I'll forgive him. He's more of a dock rock guy. I saw that. He won't be guesting on our yacht rock too, but there will be a yacht rock too. Cause this pandemic, it's going to be a while before we're all vaccinated. So a shout out to Ridley funeral home.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Do you guys enjoy your toques you got from Ridley funeral home? Very, very cozy. I love it. What about you, Steven? They're really, it's super comfy.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And you know, if there's one thing that Ridley Funeral Homes is known for, it's making people feel comfortable. Right. And it was very comforting during, you know, cold times. Great point. Great point. So they're at 3080 Lakeshore.
Starting point is 00:38:14 That's at 14th Street. Shout out to Brad Jones and the great team at Ridley Funeral Home. Go to RidleyFuneralHome.com to find out more. If you guys were in my backyard right now you'd be cold but you would have a a fresh craft beer i feel like we're missing that element with these zoom ones but of course i was just at great lakes i recorded there on the weekend which was also cold but i got a fresh supply so uh i've got the cold beer here ready when you guys get here uh hopefully we can get you back in the backyard sooner rather than later.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Love it. I actually picked up some Great Lakes beer on the weekend. It's my daughter's birthday. She's 12. Are you going to give her her first beer? No, me and my dad and perhaps MF, we're going to be down in one of our local parks. We're going to do a family birthday distance in the park.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Nice. I picked up some glb for the adults to be clear now on that note though i'm literally weeks away from being able to have a legal a legal great lakes beer with my firstborn as opposed to all the illegal ones you've had with him over the years or never never as opposed to opposed to driving to Gatineau or something. Damn, your daughter's 12, did you say? Yeah. Holy smokes.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I know. Wow. She's like a real person now. Yeah, she's very, very mature. That's preteen, bud. That's preteen. Oh, yeah. Get ready. Buckle up.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Oh, we're already there. We're already there. Oh, you're already there. I was going to say, you might get lucky like I did. Michelle's an angel, but I think Morgan will give you the trouble. We'll see. see we'll see and there won't be a fifth so i don't have to worry about that so uh thank you sticker you.com not be your kid but there could be a fifth
Starting point is 00:39:52 you know if it's if there's a fifth that bathtub keeps uh it's one in three thousand i'll just i'll just believe it was the one in three thousand like me myself and irene he just believed they were his you remember that's the triplets? Of course. Anybody? Okay. Just making sure. So, okay. Thank you, stickeru.com. That's where I get my Toronto Mike stickers. That's where we should get some Pandemic Friday stickers, actually. I think that's a very good idea. And Barb Paluskiewicz at CDN Technologies. And she's also got her own wonderful podcast called No Tech Talk, technologies and she's also got her own wonderful podcast called no tech talk but no is spelled k-n-o-w no clever yep no it's almost too clever right i find it too clever because you're like of course she's gonna do something clever because she's the best barb paluskiewicz can be reached
Starting point is 00:40:36 anytime if you email barb at cdn technologies.com whoa no more phone number? Just email now? Well, I don't know. You can call her too, of course. 905-542-9759. But Cambrio wants to give her a shout. Shout out to Cambrio, who has been filling in for Matt Layden this week, I noticed, on Twitter. So, shout out to Cambrio. Okay, guys. We got
Starting point is 00:41:00 jams to kick out. Let's get to this, okay? Enough talk about the deprecation of Periscope. That's such an insider term, deprecation. You know what a Silicon Valley type is. You're reading the press release there. Okay, so do you want to say anything, Cam, or do you want me just to kick out your first jam?
Starting point is 00:41:19 I actually do have a little intro, and Mike, I believe it's the track that I called a last-minute audible on. Right. Due to a conversation that took place by DM, and there was a bit of a spoiler with what was going to be the first track. Name him. It was Matt Layden. Who was it again? Oh, it was Michael Lang. I was going to say, it's Matt Layden.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Who was it again? Oh, it was Michael Lang. It was Michael Lang, F-O-T-M, Michael Lang. Sort of said the same jab to Mike, say, hey, Mike, here's your CanCon theme today. I'll just say what it was. It was the Doughboys' Fix Me. That was the first song I thought of last week.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Right. Michael Lang kind of stole my thunder. So let's just say I moved a little column over to the right in terms of the title, So I just moved, let's just say I moved a little column over to the right in terms of the title. And I chose this song for the first jam. When you try your best but you don't succeed When you get what you want but not what you need When you feel so tired but you can't sleep Stuck in reverse And the tears come streaming down your face When you lose something you can't replace
Starting point is 00:43:00 When you love someone but it goes to waste Could it be worse? Lights will guide you home and ignite your bones and I will try to fix
Starting point is 00:43:38 you This is actually Dr. Nick Rivera fix you, no this of course is Coldplay the song Fix You This is actually Dr. Nick Rivera. Fix you. No. This, of course, is Coldplay, the song Fix You. So we went, again, to summarize, went from the Doughboys Fix Me to Coldplay Fix You. And I guess this is kind of what Dr. Rivera said to you today.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Mike, he literally fixed you um coldplay i i feel like we haven't actually talked that much about coldplay amazingly i mean i was hoping we would get through the whole year without it but here we are yeah what are you guys coldplay fans do you like this band obviously a massively they're good they're good popular they're they're fine like they're better than fine i know leavey fumka loves coldplay i can tell by her face. I'll give her a moment. They're like you two of this generation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah. Okay. I don't dislike Coldplay, but I never actively pursue any Coldplay. No, but they're nice songs. This is a nice song. You guys might have seen this at some point because I was in a very active
Starting point is 00:44:45 Twitter debate on the question because this started in the question, is Maroon 5 a rock band? Most people thought Maroon 5 was not a rock band. They were at one point. Yeah, they were. They've morphed into a... Technically they are.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Kind of the same question. Like Imagine Dragons. Is Coldplay a rock band? Of course. Yeah, listen. They also have like... Wait, who says... I'm kind of with you, Mike. Like I don't have any Coldplay songs.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Maybe I have one. Maybe don't panic. I like don't panic a lot. But like I respect the song and like I hear it in a movie and it's cool or I see it in a commercial or, you know, I respect the hell out of them as... You you know, I think they have nice songs. They do have some nice songs and the difference between a rock band and a pop
Starting point is 00:45:29 band for people who are wondering, who are listening, you know, like a pop band is just making songs for the top 10, you know, trying to crack the top 10. They're trying to be a pop act, popular music, you know, 680 CFTR. They're trying to be on not q107 or 102.1 does that make sense yeah sometimes songs cross over from 102.1 on the cftr but like usually that's not the intention when they set out to make that song sometimes because i think that's the thing i sort of struggle with with coldplay maybe just because they're so massively popular they don't
Starting point is 00:46:07 seem like a rock band to me even though they they're totally a rock band I mean they have a lot of poppy hits of course but that's a rock band well also like you know when they first showed up I mean they were sort of very much in the same conversation as like Travis and all the
Starting point is 00:46:22 UK bands of that era absolutely they're all rock bands is like Travis. Travis, yes. And all the UK bands of that era. Absolutely. They're all rock bands. Yeah. They're all rock bands. It's a band and they have guitars and it's a rock band.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Yeah. Right. Now, yeah. I was just going to say, I'm just going to sort of order off the menu here because I didn't have time to do any fast or fun facts about this.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Stu can't mention this song is often used in like commercials and movies and compilations. The Wikipedia pages is littered with these. A lot of stuff about hockey, it's used in like the intros at Montreal Canadian games. Right. Because it's got that build.
Starting point is 00:46:59 It's got that emotional build. It's actually really good for like montages and stuff. Yeah. So this song was actually played at the uh steve jobs memorial celebration of life of again event at apple headquarters after steve jobs uh passed away in 2011 in cupertino um was also performed at the one love manchester charity concert that was held in the wake of the shooting at the what was it like an ariana grande yes in manchester yeah ariana grande which was like a horrible horrible thing and then uh you may recall too this was used in an ad campaign for sick kids hospital yes some very visually
Starting point is 00:47:38 arresting like it's currently used for that i think i think that's active yeah i feel like that's like still on so yeah this song's kind of everywhere it's also been in every all sorts of like TV shows and movies including World Trade Center starring what Nicolas Cage was in that I want to say and TV shows including the OC
Starting point is 00:47:57 oh can I tell you my memory of this song which is a Ricky Gervais show I liked quite a bit called Derek and the basically the most emotional memory of this song, which is a Ricky Gervais show I liked quite a bit called Derek. And the basically the most emotional scene that actually will bring me to tears if I think about it is Derek's running after his like estranged father to this song. And even hearing it now, I actually just picture this this great scene of Derek running after his dad as his dad's driving away. And oh, my friends, it's quite the emotional song.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Maybe it's just the procedure I had earlier today, but it really... It might be your lack of balls talking. I have my balls. Hey, Stu, real quick production note before we get back to Cam's fun facts here. The fader for the microphone channel, is it actually up as high as you can go? It is now. So where was it before? I was playing with it.
Starting point is 00:48:50 We know that, but where was the fader? Now it's at the very tippy top. Okay. As high as it can go. Real quick, and this is obviously, I'm not even going to edit it out, but it's going to be so quick it won't matter. When you click the button number one
Starting point is 00:49:03 to go to level, and you go into level, what number do you see beside level? 18. Oh, you're way low, buddy. You should be 35. Jeez. Oh, I should have done this in the beginning because you were quiet. Wait, so now it's like way better?
Starting point is 00:49:21 Yeah. Hey guys, this is Stu Stone and Mike has no balls on Pandemic Friday. Here's a little Coldplay. Can we start over? I'm not unclear. So before you couldn't hear me at all? It was just quiet. And now I'm just like so good?
Starting point is 00:49:36 Well, you're better. So you're at 35 now? I'm at 35 now. Yeah, if you project in the mic, it's much better. I'm at 35 now. You were so much quieter than Cam because Cam's rocking the gamer headset. Maybe I need to get myself a gamer headset.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I know. I'm glad this works. I wasn't sure. It was like $35 on Amazon. No, it's good. It's good. Awesome. One final fun fact about this.
Starting point is 00:49:59 This was a top five hit in Canada and the UK going to number four, respectively. Not that big a hit in the US. This topped out at 59 on the Billboard Hot 100. Wow, that's kind of surprising. Yeah, I think this is, to me, this seems like one of the signature Coldplay songs. It's certainly one of the first ones I think of, and when I think of vasectomies. It's one of the first ones. It's a great vasectomy jam. I'll play a couple seconds of it, but I was looking forward to hearing
Starting point is 00:50:29 this one. So, fuck Michael Lang for ruining that. Can I say that? That's okay. But anyway, this would have been a fine choice to fix me by the Doughboys out of Montreal. A band we have talked a lot about. But have we ever played them? No, we've played them.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Yeah, I think so. It never hurts to play them again. Can you hear me now? Is this better, Mike? Yeah, but what did you... I'm not sure it's better, but what did you change? Well, I turned down my headphone volume. Does that affect you?
Starting point is 00:51:07 No. Okay. No, you can do anything you want with your headphones. I don't care. But yeah, you're better than you were because I just want you to be as loud as Cam because you're coming into my same channel. Okay, so I like the Doughboys.
Starting point is 00:51:19 So should I play my first song? Yeah, do you want to set it up here? I'll bring down the Doughboys. I'm going to set it up. So basically, for those who are just joining us, Mike had a vasectomy. It was a little pinch, a little tug.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Some bruising? He's shooting blanks, we think. But you know, he's going to go back on January the 13th, and he's going to shoot in the cup. No, I've got to wait longer than that. 12 weeks. Longer than that. My bad. 12 weeks. I thought you said January 12th. 12 weeks, he's going to shoot in the cup. No, I got to wait longer than that, 12 weeks. Longer than that. My bad, 12 weeks.
Starting point is 00:51:46 I thought you said January 12th. 12 weeks, he's going to shoot some – he's going to fill up a cup, and he's going to roll up the rim to win. And we're playing jams about Mike and his vasectomy. So here's my first jam. Oh, the forward yesterday makes me want to stay. What they said was real makes me want to steal. I'm still living under house. Guess I'm living high and mouse. All I got this time got no meaning just to rhyme.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Take time with a wounded hand Cause it likes to heal Take time with a wounded hand Cause it likes to steal Take time with a wounded hand Cause it likes to heal I like to steal I'm half the man I used to be Cause I feel as if no one cares
Starting point is 00:53:42 Well, I'm half the man I used to be Very clever, Stu. Well, I'm half the man I used to be Very clever, Stu. I mean, I wanted you to keep hearing him sing it, but you've got to get used to that. You are half the man you used to be. You know, this is Stu winning round one with Stone Temple Pilots. A song called Creep.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Obviously the lyrics to the chorus repeated over and over again. I'm half the man I used to be, which technically speaking, that might be the case here because Mike had a vasectomy, as we alluded to. Maybe he is half the man he used to be now because he no longer is. He no longer has a lot live bullets in the chamber. He's like 20% of the man.
Starting point is 00:54:48 He used to be not even half. Not even half. Listen to this. Do you guys remember when Sass Jordan was on Toronto Mic'd? Yeah. I mentioned to her I was going to get a vasectomy in 2020 and she was like, don't do that because she had heard these stories of guys lose their mojo. I know. I mean,
Starting point is 00:55:03 Dr. Sass. So she would agree if you used to. she would say for sure i am half the man uh i used to be yeah did she have intentions with you like why would this be part of her concern what i'd say watch it on i'm worried now will periscope delete those archived uh videos i have on there including the gates has jordan i don't know i'd be I'd be ready for anything. Oh my God. How do I back those up? Oh my God. I wish I knew someone at Twitter. Holy smoke. So Stu,
Starting point is 00:55:32 did we play this on a Pandemic Friday before? We may have. I'm not sure. Either way, I've got some fun facts about this particular tune. Hit us up. I love this song. We all know this is Stone Temple Pilots. A couple fun facts about this song. It is not actually about vasectomy.
Starting point is 00:55:48 So that's kind of a shocker. But there was two music videos shot for this. And I kind of remember there being some controversy here, but they needed to record a second version of it. The original version that Gus Van Sant had shot for the band was shelved because it had drugs and sex and all sorts of stuff that was making it unplayable. So they went back with a different director. And I don't know if I remember seeing the two different videos. Do you guys have any memories of this?
Starting point is 00:56:18 I do remember multiple videos of this somehow. Like, this sounds familiar. My memory, this is from Core, right? And I remember Plush was the big jam, and then some Wicked Garden, and but I don't remember, I just remember this from the radio, and of course the CD,
Starting point is 00:56:36 which I loved, but I don't actually remember this getting a lot of much music played, this song. I just remember the video was boring, from what I recall. It was kind of a bleh video for this song. Am I wrong? I don't know. The song's really good, though. And, you know, STP, a lot of people thought they were sort of like an imitation grunge band
Starting point is 00:56:52 trying to capitalize on the sound. And they sort of found their own, you know, and carved their own lane, obviously. Tragically, we know what happened with Scott Weiland, the lead vocalist, who's no longer with us. But there was other incarnations of the group with Chester Bennington, who's also no longer with us. So now I think they just held auditions for a new singer. And there's a gentleman named Jeff Gutt, who I'm not familiar with, but apparently he's the singer now.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Jeff Gutt. I would say that Canadian rock singer Lucas Rossi, if you know who that is, would have been a good... From InXS? Was that the InXS guy? Yeah. No, Supernova. Rockstar Supernova. That was with Tommy Lee and whoever else was in that version. Who was the InXS guy?
Starting point is 00:57:36 Who's the guy who won the InXS contest? Something like... JD4. Oh, yeah. Okay. I get those two guys mixed up all the time. Okay. I'm with you. I feel like we learned on an earlier pandemic Fridays that former I Mother Earth singer Brian Byrne tried out for. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:52 That was the whole reason why he was kicked out of the group. Yeah. Wow. Now, here's some fun facts. The group was initially called Mighty Joe Young. Oh, after the movie. Mighty Joe Young. Oh, after the movie.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And they got contacted by a lawyer after they got their record deal saying, hey, there's already a blues guy called Mighty Joe Young. So they had to scramble to find a new name. Inspired by the STP motor oil stickers that they were fans of in their youth, various ideas on the initials STP were shared by the band, including but not limited to Shirley Temple's Pussy and Stereo Temple Pirates.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Well, that's better. There's Stereo Temple Pilots. Stereo Temple Pirates. Oh, Pirate. Wow. Eventually settled on the name Stone Temple Pilots. I'm Alan Cross. Technical production by Rob Johnston. Yeah, so that's a pretty cool story.
Starting point is 00:58:51 You know, these guys have made a lot of money. They've sold a lot of records. Right. It's the brothers, right? They're brothers, right? Yeah, there's a couple brothers in there. And the song charted not very well, actually. I mean, number two on the album uh rock chart
Starting point is 00:59:08 but on the main right you know top 100 hot 100 uh this song came in at an underwhelming number 59 and in canada number 45 do you know where we're plush peaked probably like number one i don't know i don't have that in front not number one but uh i'm just curious like how the how that can find out for you yeah sure because one thing about the billboard hot 100 is it really favors pop like uh it's really difficult but they had other singles off the album sex type thing yeah and wicked garden garden we're all uh they also toured with mega death was there oh and uh rage against the machine. So no wonder people, I don't know if they fit that bill. Yeah, shout out. Firstly, I know we talked about how do we feel about Coldplay.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I feel pretty indifferent to Coldplay, but I do think Fix You is actually a really nice song. But I just don't have a lot of passion for Coldplay. I would never want to, like I would never go, oh, let's go see Coldplay at the Scotiabank Arena. Like I would never think that. But STP is a band I loved seeing live. I just think they rock hard and they were a great band so there's a lot to say
Starting point is 01:00:10 about uh plush i can tell you even though we didn't play that song but it went to number one on the mainstream rock chart sure and uh on the hot 100 it uh didn't do as well but the decade chart of the best of the decade 2010 to 2019 that's really weird yeah that's illegal it's the number four song of that decade because when he passed away the song went back on the charts and uh actually went to number seven after he passed away sorry plushed it yes wow now i learned this from a podcast recently when they were talking about Smells Like Teen Spirit and how it was doing well on the Billboard Hot 100 and how difficult it was for an alt-rock song to do well on the Billboard Hot 100. That really is the realm of the Michael Jacksons of the world. That is really pop land.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Think about Ain't Nothing But a G-Thing, Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg. How did that song crack pop radio? It did. Ain't Nothing But A G Thing, Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg. How did that song crack pop radio? It did. Well, nowadays that kind of song is really what dominates right now. We talked about this a little on Twitter when we talked about doing a second Yacht Rock episode.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I think it would be interesting to discuss, again, bands that were a big deal on the charts and have just totally faded. Sorry, this is kind of tangential to what we're talking about, but specifically I I'm so curious why no one really talks about the band REM much anymore. I feel like, like,
Starting point is 01:01:36 are there any, like, well, because it's in their teenagers who like, I know that, but like, meanwhile, Toto and journey and Fleetwood Mac and even Nirvana and Joy Division,
Starting point is 01:01:47 all these bands are really popular with young people still. I feel like R.E.M. has just really, really faded for a band that was so popular. I don't know, but is Michael Stipe outspoken about stuff or something? What could it be?
Starting point is 01:02:02 I don't know. I see him pop up every once in a while like on a yeah song exploder wasn't he on song exploder or something i know people that are obsessed with rem like yeah their favorite band but i hear you i hear you don't hear too much about them outside of those you know one or two friends that are but i love them how much do you hear about a band like for example how much do you hear about sonic youth or uh like i mean i don't know like i feel like those kind of seminal rock leaders yeah i just feel like rem was like for a few years the pixies the pixies how often like how often do you hear rem was like number
Starting point is 01:02:37 one band on pop charts too like religion was like a mega hit i know yeah like they were very close to the u2 level for and like what's the frequency was like a mega hit. I know. Yeah, like they were very close to the U2 level for five, six years. It was like a big radio song. Yeah, like number one albums, massive like crossover hits. Everybody Heard was a massive hit. You're right. Pixies didn't have that.
Starting point is 01:02:55 You're right. It's quite different. You're right. Anyway, very tangential. And in the place where you live. Yeah, you've got my attention. Are you kidding me? The end of the world as we know it.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Yeah. I think I kicked out that jam. Okay, my first jam, because Stu's already claimed victory, so what's the point, right? Let's shut it all down. But I'm playing a song by an FOTM, so let's play it,
Starting point is 01:03:19 and then I'll chat you up uh the singer here i would have given you all of my heart but there's someone who's torn it apart And she's taken almost all that I've got But if you want I'll try to love again Baby, I'll try to love again But I know The first cut is the deepest Baby, I know The first cut is the deepest But when it comes to being lucky
Starting point is 01:04:16 She's cursed When it comes to loving me She's the worst But when it comes to being loved, she's first. Now, I'm going to say very little. I'm intentionally going to say very little about this particular song,
Starting point is 01:04:33 except, of course, this is a cover of The First Cut is the Deepest. Does anyone on this Zoom call know who's singing this jam? It does sound like Neil Diamond, but it's not. It has that real Neil Diamond schmaltzy sort of thing to it.
Starting point is 01:04:49 It's really kind of infectious. Is this Keith Hampshire? Correctamundo! And is this the same guy like OK Blue Jays? I was going to do a little mind blow. That's the guy that sings OK Blue Jays? Yeah, I was going to do a little mind blow in a moment here. That blows my mind. Yeah, I thought it would. Cam, you ruined it!
Starting point is 01:05:08 Well, after fucking Michael Lang stole my Doughboy's Thunder, I just want to ruin everything. That blows my mind still. This guy, I feel, is underappreciated. This version of First Cut is the deepest. And obviously, referring to the vasectomy,
Starting point is 01:05:24 First Cut is the deepest. Ha ha ha. Like in the vasectomy, First Cut is the Deepest. Ha, ha, ha. Like in your testicle. Right. And of course, you're going to have to learn to love again. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Yeah. Yes. No. Well done, Stu. Right. And there's multiple reasons why I kicked out the jam. But this is my actual
Starting point is 01:05:36 favorite version. Like, with all due respect to Cat Stevens, this is my favorite version of the First Cut is the Deepest. It was a big hit in this country. I'm not sure how it did
Starting point is 01:05:44 anywhere else. Keith Hampshire's an interesting guy. And if you haven't heard his appearance on Toronto Mike, you should, but he was a pirate radio star back when pirate radio was a big deal in the 60s. Pirate radio Chris Sheppard. Yeah, well, he was literally on
Starting point is 01:05:59 the offshore pirate radio he was on Radio Caroline, which was a boat in the english channel or something was out offshore so that the uh the rules wouldn't apply to them and they were broadcasting from a boat like this is the real pirate radio and he was called uh keifer and he had a couple of shows uh keifer's commotions and keith keifer's uprising and he was a big fucking deal on these pirate radio stations and then not only did he become a like a local rock star or whatever you call this genre pop rock whatever it
Starting point is 01:06:29 is he had big hits here he would uh host his own variety show on cbc and then he became a radio star like this guy was a very popular radio dj of his era a little bit like a yes well said and then i was going to blow some minds. I didn't think I'd ever blow Cam's mind, but I thought I might blow Stu Stone's mind.
Starting point is 01:06:55 This is the same guy singing. He's just all delivery for this one. Right. So that's Keith Hampshire singing this song. This is like, the other one Right So that's Keith Hampshire singing this song This is like the other one was him doing Neil Diamond And this is him doing like
Starting point is 01:07:08 What's his name? I Love L.A. Guy Oh, Randy Newman Yeah Oh my god, wow Okay, that blew my mind It totally is Wow Well, the guy they always compared him to
Starting point is 01:07:21 He's like a David Sousa He does impressions You said David And I thought you were going to say the name of the guy that he was often compared to for his vocal styling. It's not in this song, but David Clayton Thomas. Yeah, David Clayton Thomas has a similar kind of singing style. But okay, so yes, this is Keith doing a different vibe
Starting point is 01:07:42 for this recording, which we still hear often during our summers. And we're at, hopefully we can return there one day and see them again. By the way, Mike, that version of the first cut is the deepest. I feel like that was a real mainstay on 10.50 Chung AM.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Like forever. Like a classic AM mono radio CanCon hit. Also 100 staple on 1220 chin probably johnny shout out to johnny lombardi oh i used to i used to work the chin picnics uh didn't we all me and cam used to go the bikini yeah the bikini contest was very popular. Formative. Now I got some Blue Jay fever here. I can't wait till... It might be COVID. You might want to get that checked. Here's a question for you guys.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Yes or no. Will there be a baseball game with fans in the stands in Toronto in this calendar year? Can you go first, Stu? Like in 2020 or in the calendar year? Can you go first, Stu? Like in 2020 or in the calendar year? Next calendar year. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:50 You think there will be? My turn? I think if the Blue Jays make the playoffs somehow, we could be ready to go by October. Right. I think it's minimal chance. I'm going to say zero. No.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I'm going to say there will be no fans, regular fans in the Rogers, whatever they call it, the Rogers Center for Blue Jay Action in 2021. No. Yeah, I tend to agree with Mike. I don't know. I hate to say like I'm just not optimistic that this this vaccine rollout is going to go quickly. There's just so many just kind many logistical and supply chain stuff. I don't know. The way that things are going now, I know it's particularly bad now.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Who knows what the next couple of months are going to look like. They say that one in 80 people in Los Angeles has it already. Has the COVID-19. That's right. I don't know. It seems like the Canadian government
Starting point is 01:09:47 is just erring on the side of, not like, you know, similar to Raptors, you know, just erring on the side of, yeah, don't come here, Americans. Yeah, I'll be shocked. First force. I think that you should set your sights on 2021. Maybe we should all go to opening day.
Starting point is 01:10:04 You're saying 2022 is what you meant to say. Oh, what did I say? Thank you. You've been really fucking up since you got your balls cut. I'm just so pleased that you fixed your microphone. Is that Cat Spade? That's like a Toronto Mike type of thing.
Starting point is 01:10:18 They have a lot in common now. Lift up its tail. Okay, second jam for you, Cam. Do you want to say anything or want me to just kick it? Yeah, just kick it. It's another cover, huh? Is it? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:10:44 No. I don't think so. This will give me a chance to tell you about my Emla patch. Emla? But I have never seen A turning, a turning from deceit Cause a child rose as light Tried to reveal what I could feel I can't understand myself anymore Such a cam pic. Like, do we know this song?
Starting point is 01:11:56 It's not a knowing, like, I think if, I personally didn't remember this cut by this band. I remember the band because they had a few big hits, but I don't remember this song. Yeah,. I remember the band because they had a few big hits, but I don't remember this song. Yeah, so anyway, the band is Portishead. The name of this song is Numb. So we'll talk about Portishead in a second. So Mike, do they put a little dry ice down there?
Starting point is 01:12:18 No, let me please. Like a little needle? I'm glad you asked about this. So they give you this sticker. It's actually an Emla patch. I don't know what Emla means, but E-M-L-A. And they so they give you this sticker it's actually an emla patch i don't know what emla means but emla and they say can you please stick it on basically like the base of your penis onto the scrotum so that it starts to numb you okay so good choice of a song so uh i had to wear it for a while before they put me in the other room to do their thing but it numbs
Starting point is 01:12:41 into your flesh and yeah numbs the area so So it kind of leaches into your flesh and numbs the area. So I guess that's the area. Because then you remove it, just when you lie in the thing and Doc's going to do his thing, he says, please remove it and put it in the garbage or whatever. But that amla patch numbs the area
Starting point is 01:12:55 that they're going to be messing with. Interesting. Because when you have a wart removed on your foot or something, they use that canister. Oh, they freeze it. Gotcha. Burn it off, burn it off.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Like a soldering iron. Well, for those of you who are drinking along with us, Mike did say penis, so take another shot. Oh, save that for your next jam, Stu. Yeah, so let's talk a little bit about Portishead. Do let the dude let the record show i i did consider holly mcnarlin um but i i feel like what we've talked about that on pandemic fridays i feel like sammy had a story about meeting yeah mcnarlin and she was
Starting point is 01:13:36 yeah exactly and uh my podcast came up i think in that conversation yeah yeah because she's someone who's like completely fallen. She did a Bob McCowan thing. He was like, you should go on Toronto Mike. She was like, meh. It didn't meet her purpose. She did not say no, unlike Bob McCowan. One of these days, she's going to put Toronto on the map.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Bob's going to ruin the day he said no to Toronto Mike. Hey, those fat cats down on Bay Street, no one has their ear like Bob McCowan. I love that. Oh, he said broads too, right? He referred to women as broads. That was a lot.
Starting point is 01:14:12 What a piece of work from Simon Howe. I kind of missed the details of that. Can you give me like the CliffsNotes or the ColesCliff? God, I feel like that has to be a separate episode. There's a lot to unpack there. So anyway, Portishead, Numb. This was actually their first ever single, feel like that has to be a separate episode there's a lot to unpack there um so anyway portis had numb this was actually their first ever single if you could believe it okay because
Starting point is 01:14:31 they had some big jams and i didn't remember that one my mind yeah so this is from the album dummy from august of 1994 um number was the bigger but you're right, the bigger hits from that album were Sour Times. Big Time and Glory Box. And Glory Box, yeah. Glory Box was actually a top 10 hit in Canada, if you believe it. I do believe it, because Sour Times and Glory Box
Starting point is 01:14:56 were the two big songs I remember from that album, Dummy, that Numb apparently was the lead single on. It wasn't also Alessia Cara got famous from sampling. That's right. I was just going to bring that up. Now popularized from the, I think it might have been her debut single, the song Here by Alessia Cara,
Starting point is 01:15:14 which famously sampled Glory Box. Which is a sexy little song, man. I'm telling you, that trip hop stuff is really nice. All I know is this album, Dummy, when I went to university, was in residence at McMaster, everybody had this fucking album. This was like one of the albums you would hear.
Starting point is 01:15:33 This and like Oasis, What's the Story, Morning Glory. And I think like the Train Spotting soundtrack. It seemed like those were the three CDs. Right, Born Slippy. You got to hear that at university. Everybody had those three. Could you have gone with Nirvana, Numb?
Starting point is 01:15:46 Yeah, or no, isn't, wait, no, Nirvana's not Numb. U2 is Numb. Comfortably Numb. Yeah, actually, yeah, I did consider, but I fucking hate that. Nirvana's Dumb. Dumb is Numb. Yeah, you're right. U2 is Numb, though, and I was thinking of that.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I don't know. I mean, Sass Jordan said your vasectomy is done. I thought that would have fit. I'm scared to tell her I had it done. I think she'll think less of me when I tell her I did it. There is less of you to think of. She did sing Double Trouble. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:18 There are two of them down there. She did make the best of that Al Grego put together. I know you guys didn't make it, but she did. Here's another question for you guys. Fuck that dude. Fuck Michael Lang. I didn't say fuck Michael Lang. I would make love to Michael Lang.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Fuck Al Grego. You're putting words in our mouths. Well, you just said it, right? There's Juan's making an appearance. Oh, fuck Juan. He's hanging out at the breakfast bar. This is actually their only fans.com live feed yeah there's one person on our live feed although i did invite ian uh service but he hasn't shown up yet so um the
Starting point is 01:16:56 you two sung numb sang by the edge you guys like that i don't know uh Can you remind me how that goes? It's really high. It's like... I think that song is a complete piece of shit. I'm glad you chose the Portishead. Good for you. I think it's better. Fun fact, because we've talked about
Starting point is 01:17:21 Nena Cherry a few times. Nina Cherry? I always say Nina, and then Cam corrects me. I think it is Nina. I feel like we talked about her in Massive Attack. She also has ties to Portishead. Jeff Barrow and Beth Gibbons, who are Portishead, the two-piece, met during an enterprise allowance course
Starting point is 01:17:44 in February 1991 and they recorded their first ideas for the songs for this album Portishead their first their first album as Portishead in Nene Cherry's kitchen in London while Bar was hired by Nene Cherry's husband, Cameron McVeigh, her too, to work on Nina's second album, Homebrew. So to summarize, Jeff Burrow from Portishead worked on Nina Cherry's second album. Nina Cherry, I think, was from Bristol, where Mass Effect worked. She's not from Buffalo?
Starting point is 01:18:22 Not from Buffalo, no, even though she often hangs in a Buffalo stance. And also it ties to Soul to Soul, who we learned last week. Someone from that band sang back up for Hojo. Is somebody taking notes on all the things we're learning doing this for 40 weeks in a row? This is incoherent.
Starting point is 01:18:41 We need to get back in the backyard. I just want to remember, the word that people have to hear to be able to take a shot, what was that again? Penis. I will introduce that anytime I hear it. If you hear that, that means I caught it and you can take the drink.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Okay, very good. You'll hear it actually a lot. My next take. I actually asked MF if she had ever heard of this song, and she hadn't. It came up in my combo with Mike Treblecock. No pun intended. She's perfect for this episode.
Starting point is 01:19:18 She is. Here, I'll speak while I hit the post here. There was a compilation called Awesome 90s that had a Killjoys jam on it. It also had this one. And my penis was missing again. This happens all the time. It's detachable.
Starting point is 01:19:36 This comes in handy a lot of the time. I can leave it home when I think it's going to get me in trouble. Or I can rent it out when I don't need it. But now and then I go to a party, get drunk, and the next morning I can't for the life of me remember what I did to live up. First I looked around my apartment. I mean, I would literally be wasted at this point.
Starting point is 01:19:57 It's a great jam, buddy. Thanks for playing this. I love this song. This song is obviously, it's called Detachable Penis. And that is by a group called King Missile. Detachable Penis. Actually became a modest hit on the charts, guys. Number 25 on the Modern Rock chart.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Unbelievable. This is one of those songs with like, you know, like not a surf, like popular. There was like some other sort of graduation song that I remember where a guy just sort of does a monologue. Popular, not a surf. Yeah, I said not a surf, but there's like another one. It's called like institutionalized. Yeah, it was like a guy that was just giving you sort of like life advice. Oh, yeah, that was the guy who did Moulin Rouge.
Starting point is 01:20:46 What's that director's name? Baz Luhrmann. I think it's him. But the better example would be, shout out to Brother Bill. He loves this song so much. But institutionalized by suicidal tendencies. Yeah, all I wanted was a Pepsi. A Balls by ACDC has that.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Which has been Hanson. It's been Hanson today. I'm just going to throw that out there right now. Well, we should play it at the end or something. But yeah, so he does this monologue and he's talking literally about a night of heavy drinking and he awakens to find that his penis is missing, which happened on similar occasions.
Starting point is 01:21:21 And despite his best efforts, he's unable to recover his penis. So depressed, he goes to a restaurant for breakfast. He encounters a street vendor who has possession of the missing penis. I'm not making this up, guys. This is the actual song. He negotiates the price. He negotiates the price.
Starting point is 01:21:42 I'm giving you spoilers, by the way, on the lyrics here. He negotiates the price, and he ends up getting his dink back. I don't want to push the button anymore. Spoiler alert. Yeah. There was some commercial backlash, obviously, because of the contents of the song. But there was a few stations that continued to be supportive after beginning getting pulled off the airwaves. And a lot of people. This is a really funny guys this is a really funny sort of quote from the band um but you know they really uh were not you know these are musicians and they're like
Starting point is 01:22:16 known for this one song and they're so sick of this song that when they would... I want to get this right here. The band realized the song had drawn in so many casual fans who did not care about the rest of the group's material. Thus, the band began playing the song early in the set so that people
Starting point is 01:22:40 who don't like us could leave and we could play for the people who cared. That worked out well. People did leave. That's a power move. Wow. Yeah. So they ended up playing to like empty shows by the end because people
Starting point is 01:22:53 left after they. Yeah. That's like if a Marcy playground would just play sex and candy, like the second song or something. Do you have like, I don't know anything about that. I assume this band probably is into like Frank Zappa or like Primus or like you know the type of
Starting point is 01:23:09 bands Alani Schwartz would like can you like what is this band King Missile do you know I don't have like too much to offer other than like they sort of stumble onto a hit with this song and they sort of wrote it I can
Starting point is 01:23:24 do a little bit of a dig or deep for you. But he was, I think that the singer was a open mic poetry reading sort of guy. And so he put this band together to sort of talk, play behind him while he was talking, because him reading poetry was coming across as quote, totally boring. So they started this band where he sort of does his poetry and this is what happened.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Do you guys remember the movie Surf Ninjas? Sure. Do I know it or was I? No, I wasn't in it. But I do know it, yes. With Ernie Reyes Jr. Anyway, one of the songs on the soundtrack is King Missile. Was it Detachable Penis?
Starting point is 01:24:05 No, Our Jungle by King Missile. I was going to say that would be problematic these days. I don't think surfing. I think it would probably be problematic then as well. Yeah. Remember those real estate ninjas? I feel like 1236 put this in his newsletter. There was some backlash.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Can I ask you guys? I know of a guy because he sponsors another podcast and he refers to himself as the retirement Sherpa. Is that problematic? Like, can you, he's just a white guy. Can you call yourself a Sherpa?
Starting point is 01:24:34 I, I, I don't have an issue with it, but maybe it's a problem. I don't, I'm the wrong guy to ask. Yeah. It might be problematic.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Yeah. I could see people being. Usually the rule goes, if you have to ask, it probably is. I think that's a good rule. The Cleveland baseball team is getting a new nickname. That's crazy. It makes sense, but
Starting point is 01:24:56 as someone who grew up as a huge fan of the Cleveland baseball team, I have a lot of problematic merchandise. And Major League is now a problematic movie. Wow, I didn't even think of that. That sucks. Like Joe Carter's first... No, no, Major
Starting point is 01:25:12 League, the movie, is that not going to exist anymore? Of course it will exist. There's a lot of things that have become problematic that still exist. I mean, I can still go see the movie Seven, even though people have cancelled Kevin Spacey. Yeah, of course it'll still exist. Yes, it'll exist.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Okay, that was a great choice, Stu. Another win, round two. I mean, it's not quite how vasectomies work, but it was a good sentiment there. It's exactly how it works. Your penis is now detached from your balls. Are you ready for my second jam? Yes. very good guess very good guess I like to sit with nothing at home
Starting point is 01:26:25 I disappear, turn off the phone I lose myself, hide from the sun I make a trip, I'm out of fun I cut you in, oh let's go for a fun I cut you in, you ain't leaving at all, I'll cut you in. Let it go to your head, I'll cut you in. Parked on land. Always dug this jam.
Starting point is 01:26:56 This is good guess to say Alice in Chains because, of course, this is Jerry Cantrell who is the founder of Alice in Chains. But this is a solo track by Jerry. No, no lane on this jam. It's funny. We often we talk about Lane Staley because, of course, he was the voice of all those great Alice in Chains hits. But like Jerry Cantrell is is Alice in Chains, right?
Starting point is 01:27:19 Well, they always sort of reminded me not not in terms of the sound, but kind of like Def Leppard, where it would always be this chorus. I always thought that it was like it's all like blended vocals and stuff. Definitely, because I mean, even listening to Jerry on this solo track where Lane had nothing to do with it, it sounds so Alice in Chains-y. Yeah, a lot of like multi-tracking. I'm not like a sound engineer, but there there's definitely some stuff going on with the vocals. But it kind of reminds you how... People who don't use multi-tracking,
Starting point is 01:27:51 that's more you're going to hear. Stu, we're getting a little feedback on your mic there. I don't know if you changed anything. Can you hear me? I can hear you. I was wondering, maybe because I'm not using multi-tracking. So maybe you... Honestly, I will pay for the helicopter
Starting point is 01:28:06 to deliver you to my backyard once a week. And I will, you know what? I'll sacrifice the gear to make sure the heater is only on you, Stu. That's what I'm willing to do. Well, maybe I'll try to find a USB mic or something. I apologize. I did my best, man.
Starting point is 01:28:21 I'm trying here. It's okay. This is a tough pandemic and we just appreciate you hanging in there here so I'll basically wrap this up nicely it's Cut You In I was cut this morning
Starting point is 01:28:31 so Cut You In by Jerry Cantrell it's also a song I always liked 102.1 played it quite a bit and I like that you can hear
Starting point is 01:28:39 like the blended vocals as Cam mentioned for Alice in Chains because yeah Lane was like lead but Jerry was right there with them so you can Cam mentioned for Alice in Chains, because yeah, Lane was like lead, but Jerry was right there with them.
Starting point is 01:28:51 So you can almost hear the Alice in Chains and Jerry's voice because he is Alice in Chains. He's the, he's the founder. He's the lead guitarist. He's co-lead vocalist. Sometimes he is the lead vocalist, uh, main songwriter.
Starting point is 01:29:02 You know, he wrote the music for Alice in Chains. So Alice in Chains is Jerry Cantrell and Cut You In is a great solo jam by the man. I think this is a classic Pandemic Fridays pick too because the song I don't know about Stu but
Starting point is 01:29:15 I had the oh my god this song. You know something that we probably heard a million times. Oh we call that a forgotten jam. Yes. Yes. Very much so. And I always kind of liked the song cause it almost had like a vague, like R and B thing.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Like the chorus, like, okay, you in, but yeah, almost like you could see like a horn section in there. Right. I don't think there was,
Starting point is 01:29:39 but yeah, God, I remember the name of this album too. Bog, Boggy Depot. Was that Boggy? Something boggy, something about a bog, a big bog guy. So no, I remember the name of this album too. Boggy Depot? It was Boggy something. Something about a bog.
Starting point is 01:29:47 A big bog guy. Wade Boggs? That's part of it, yeah. It was called Boggy Depot. Good for you, buddy. That was Boggy Depot that had this jam. Yeah. 1998. I saw Alice in Chains
Starting point is 01:30:04 in concert in the most recent incarnation of them yeah William Duvall and they have and they have a singer that sounds just like
Starting point is 01:30:11 Wayne Staley it's crazy I think I was at that show that was at were you at the Molson Amphitheater was at the was at the Budweiser stage and
Starting point is 01:30:20 it had they were opening up for Blink 182 oh okay I saw him open up for Velvet Revolver at the Budweiser stage, but it was still called Most Amphitheater. But, yeah, his name is William Duvall, and he sounds just like Layne Staley.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Billy Duvall. They're like the Journey of Grunge. Right. And he's, you know, I need to tell you now, of course, much like Bugs Bunny, the lead singer of Journey is Filipino. There you go. You know, also Manny Pacquiao.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Yes! The world's most famous Filipino is Manny Pacquiao. Absolutely. Wow. That guy's a big deal. By the way, do you remember Black Eyed Peas? One of the Black Eyed Peas, actually, is Filipino, I believe. That is correct.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Did either of you guys watch this Mike Tyson fight? No, I ignored it completely. Was it just like farcical? I sort of intentionally didn't read anything about it. It was a bit of a train wreck, but it was fun. Did you pay for it, Stu? I didn't, but I was watching it with someone who did. Someone in your bubble?
Starting point is 01:31:26 Was it a work or a shoot? It was a work. Yeah. Okay. But it was good. Yeah. Okay. It was good.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Okay. They were streaming it at Adamson's Barbecue, so I went down there. A couple of my buddies. We got some brewskis. We brought our own beer. Oh, because down the street is Great Lakes Brewery. Yeah. We brought some GLB in Oh, because down the street is Great Lakes Brewery. Yeah. We brought some GLB in, and there was plenty of seating.
Starting point is 01:31:48 And there's lots of GLB and Faking a Murderer. If people haven't seen it yet, they should check that out. Okay. I have a third jam from Cam Gordon. Cam, I actually did a little swap on you, and I need to clarify if it's okay, because there's two versions of this song. Oh.
Starting point is 01:32:03 I had the second version in my collection, which was a better version than the YouTube rip that you sent me. The Gandharvas? Because the Gandharvas' First Day of Spring, it's a completely different song, the one that's on Apple Music, than the one that we know. It's terrible.
Starting point is 01:32:20 You know, that First Day of Spring is on, yeah, that's on the same awesome 90s compilation that has. Which version? Because there's like the LP version, which is like this alternative version that's not good. Then the one that we know from the music video, it doesn't exist. Yeah, Mike, I'll just say either version will be fine because I'm going to. This is the Gandharvas? No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:32:43 But it's close. It is. And I want to just I want to even though it's not my jam, this is Cam's, but I want to preface it by saying it is absolutely one of my favorite songs of all time. Holy smokes, this is going to be good. Here we go! Here we go!
Starting point is 01:33:04 Saw you looking for a light face painted cigarette white you asked the cleanest boy double charger bingo i can't believe I just got that. I can't believe I just got that. See? If we're in the backyard right now, we sing this part together, right? I don't know the song. Let's make a voice. I'm Rick Goldrass, a picture of the people you've impressed. Hangs on a wall around here, vision starts to crawl when I'm near.
Starting point is 01:33:58 And the evening waits, while you get caught up to your own mistakes. Made up of different lines, I wouldn't want to keep in my mind Oh, I do remember this song now. It's so good, Cam. It is so good. Tell us about, for example, why you chose this song. I'm going to download this song. What's it called? Well, the name of this song is Red. Red.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Now, Mike, you have some redness down there there's a little red blood absolutely there's a little blood so it all flies together that's quite the reach there's no other reason no other reason red i assume there'd be some redness after the numb it's of you know my songs are like almost like they go they're sequential fix you it's okay Mike we're gonna fix you okay we're gonna numb the area there's gonna be some redness okay
Starting point is 01:34:51 we'll see what comes next that makes sense I was about to get really angry at you but now I'm gonna I'm gonna let it slide I think it was Stu I was like and this is was it Stu or was it Mike last week someone did theirs in sequence. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 01:35:05 I put mine in sequence. I invented that, but Mike did it. But I perfected it last week. Well, I don't think you perfected it. I believe it was already perfected. But yours is more of like a tribute act. Absolutely. Okay, so Treble Charger.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Now, again, this is, you know, this is one of the things Pandemic Fridays knows. I always choose one artist and I do their hometown, other people from that hometown. Let's do Treble Charger from Sault Ste. Marie. The Sault. Home of the Greyhounds. Home of these people as well. A lot of NHL folks, including former Toronto Maple Leaf head coach
Starting point is 01:35:40 and current, I think he still coaches the Winnipeg Jets, Paul Maurice. Wow. From current Leafs GM, Kyle Dubas. Bucks in deep. Wow. The two best friends of Frank D'Angelo, and I don't mean Barry Sherman, Tony and Phil Esposito. Wow.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Honey, that's a good joke. This guy, I think, is top five all-time NHL scoring. Another former Toronto Maple Leaf briefly, Ronnie Francis. What number do you have him on? What number did you say he was? Top ten? I feel like he's, like, number five all-time scoring. Like, he just played for so long.
Starting point is 01:36:18 He's way up there. Can't be top five. Can he? He's, like, surprisingly high. We've got former uh buffalo sabers and i think he coached the islanders head coach ted nolan i'm teddy nolan oh he coached my cousin at uh i think when he was a sous saint marie greyhound yeah i i feel like he coached against the leafs in the playoffs like when oh yeah when the sabers took us out in five i think it was that's right uh a few more uh former governor general david johnston oh and an astronaut roberta bondar that's a big deal
Starting point is 01:36:55 a couple of fotms to round things out we have david amber and we've also got uh was just on the program for his has been on multiple times, Bob McKenzie. Wow. All from Sault Ste. Marie plus Trouble Charger. And I got to give you props for something before we move on, that you're absolutely right. I know you like to hear that. You don't hear it very often.
Starting point is 01:37:16 But Ron Francis is number five in all-time NHL points. Yeah, I feel like he might. I feel like he also might be number one in most games played, too. So, like, you know, points per game. But, I mean, a great player, a Hall of Famer. Didn't he finally win one with Carolina, or am I imagining that? Yeah, I think he did in 2005?
Starting point is 01:37:37 Or was that Glenn Wesley, or was it both? I don't remember. I just want to say, Jager did play a couple more games than Ron Francis. Did he? Oh, and so did Marc Messier. He played more games as well.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Actually, so did Gordie Howe. So did Gordie Howe. I do kind of love that early 90s Leafs when you would just have all these Hall of Famers came through Toronto to play a cup of coffee. You had Ron Francis. You had Phil Housley. You had Eddie Delfo.
Starting point is 01:38:03 You mean early 2000s you mean early to that what did I say early 90s I think you said early night well you had some then to you Grant Fuhrer and Dougie Gilmore right former homeowner of the Bob McCown's house so this song read I feel like we've
Starting point is 01:38:19 this song has been discussed probably at some length is it's an awesome song I won't go into kind of the backstory how the original version appeared on on self-equal title and that was re-recorded for their big major label right that's the re-recording that i have i find it's just a little bigger yeah it i'd say it's like much bigger and was it was a bigger hit uh as well this that's that song went to number 25 on the Canadian Alternative Charts in 2017. I didn't realize that the re-recorded version was actually recorded in Boston at Fort Apache.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Do you know what this is? It's like a very famous studio in Boston. It was also like a famous 1990s compilation in the vein of Ultimate 90s or whatever that one you just mentioned was. Awesome 90s, I think it is. I think it's Awesome 90s. It has bands of similar ilk like Gandarva's.
Starting point is 01:39:16 Killjoy. I'm having problems here. There's a very Gandarva's thing happening. I'm trying to find the songs on Apple Music here. And didn't they have like, what was their other song? It was like, what I live for. American Psycho.
Starting point is 01:39:33 They had a few big hits. American Psycho. What I live for. There's something called Brand New Low. Yeah, that's a big one. That's a big one. Even Grable. Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah, Mor one even even grable yeah that's a big one yeah morale i can't see none of these songs are available you can't get them well that we gotta i gotta get who is it greg nori like who do i have to get uh
Starting point is 01:39:54 it used to be called nc-17 according to apple music and i remember reading that now i'm gonna get this is literally what happened at the kill joys i literally played dana for dana levinson and she looked at me and said i don't know that song and my mind blew up and i said to myself i gotta get mike travel cock on toronto mike and i sent a tweet out i said can anyone introduce me to mike travel cock that day i was chatting with mike and setting up his episode so we need to do this with was it greg nori is that the guy i gotta find yeah yeah he's actually back in Sault Ste. Marie works for uh I actually spoke to him for something I'm working on um and had a look a super nice guy I'd never really crossed paths with him like really nice works for uh I think it's like a college up there
Starting point is 01:40:36 like they have a music program where he's actually like one of the curators he moved like he moved back to Sault Ste. Marie um and you may recall, he was a big deal because he managed some 41 and stuff and was on Much Music. He had a band type show. No, you're right. Yeah. And I feel like he did some stuff with Avril Lavigne too.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Well, there's the connection with Derek Wibley, right? Yeah, he was very involved in that whole generation. If we go back to Evan Grable there, that whole stuff, like that video, I remember that, didn't it have, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Hayden in that video along with maybe? He was. Tell me, was it Ian Blurden? Who else was in that video?
Starting point is 01:41:17 The other band I remember being in that video was a band called Radio Blaster, who never really did much, but were always the band that would like open for a treble charger at like Mill Aspen Square or like, you know, would open for Scratching Post or Len or whoever was kind of kicking around Toronto at that time. And then, yeah, it was sort of like a,
Starting point is 01:41:41 almost like a battle of the bands in downtown Toronto and there was like squeegee kids and uh and uh skateboarders like it was a very sort of queen street in the 90s video a good sort of snapshot of that moment in time hold on here i think i think here i think i have the list here i just did some quick yeah there's there's a i don't know if it's still there there was an incredibly grainy version of that video on youtube for a while um i feel like spooky ruben was maybe in that video oh yeah yeah um this is not related to what you're talking about but in 1995 they released self-title which included a cd-rom track promoting 30 of treble charger's favorite canadian indie bands and in that list of bands that they had on this CD-ROM,
Starting point is 01:42:26 I would love to get my hands on it, The Inbreds, Change of Heart, By Divine Right, Hayden, and Thrush Hermit. I had this CD. It would routinely crash my parents' computer when I tried to
Starting point is 01:42:41 put it. This is actually what I was talking to greg nori about i won't go into too much detail because hopefully you're holding out on me come on in time all will be revealed but he actually told me of the whole story of the backstory about that cd-rom it's why i spoke to him dude you and i are cut from the same cloth you me eric bow is uh who else is in the club we'll put Stu in there wise guy Ed Conroy is in the club yeah like I'll have to go back and sort of check
Starting point is 01:43:10 the tape so Greg Norrie was working I think for like a digital design company was made that CD-ROM off the side of his desk I think he did a lot of this stuff but yeah actually Stu you might like this there was another band featured on the CD why remember this i'm
Starting point is 01:43:25 not sure called paleto that was like a sonic onion band like how what the lesser lights but i was kind of blown away because their mailing address was actually on willow willow brook so they're thorn thorn hill band there was like the deepest of uh deep dives there on that uh yeah he probably was like next door neighbor maybe he was maybe he's in the band i don't know between uh maybe anyway though we went deep on this but yeah no but that's really what this is all about because what's the point on like the lack of treble charger available on my apple music you know what happens the third killjoy's album is unavailable
Starting point is 01:44:05 so they have three albums and only the first two I could find on streaming services. What was their third album? It was the one, in fact, I played a jam and then he... You got to hear this episode, by the way.
Starting point is 01:44:13 It never came out. It came out. Was it called Adios Amigos or something? Yeah, it had a Spanish name. The label was like, nah, they didn't like it. Well, they liked it enough to release it as a CD.
Starting point is 01:44:24 It just never got the streaming release. But I mean, we don't even know who owns this shit anymore. Mike doesn't even know. He says sometimes they just find out there's a new
Starting point is 01:44:32 Killjoys greatest hits album and they find out when we find out, like, oh, look, there's a new greatest hits
Starting point is 01:44:37 by the Killjoys. Like, they're completely like have no control over what happens to any of their music, which sucks. But that third album
Starting point is 01:44:44 had a great jam, which I played on this episode you're going to listen to. But I found out that song was actually written by Mike Treblecock's band before Killjoys. Wait, what's his name? Treblecock. I know. We should talk about people that have
Starting point is 01:44:59 funny phallic names like Damien Cox and things like that. I'd say in some ways, and I don't know if you touch on this, the Killjoys are sort of like the Watchmen where, you know, a favorite CanCon band of our youth and then their SEO just goes to shit.
Starting point is 01:45:15 No, we did talk about that. You're right. They're a good example, both of those bands. That's like really... There's also, if you listen to the episode, Kim, if you actually listen to Toronto Mike shows, you'd know. There was also a band in Australia with the name. In the UK. And they came to kill a joy in North America.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Right. Okay. Hey, can I ask you, Stu? Naturally, I'm curious. Why the sudden turn that you now actually listen to Toronto Mike? Like, it sounds like you heard several episodes last week. What changed? Well, as I told you, I really
Starting point is 01:45:45 didn't have the time to listen to any... I wasn't listening to podcasts. It wasn't part of my routine. So I'm trying to turn over a new leaf and trying to listen to some more podcasts. And yours is the one that I'm subscribed to. So when I open up the podcast app, yours is the one that
Starting point is 01:46:01 shows up. Who's that? Who's phony? Is that Aunt Sandy? Who's calling? That's Aunt Sandy. Do you want to take it? I mean, I could just call her real quick and just sell her. I'll call her right back. Is that acceptable? Yeah, yeah. You can mute yourself. Can I start your song and then you'll just come into your own song?
Starting point is 01:46:18 Yeah, let me just put this song. Yeah, yeah. This one goes out to Mike. Okay, here we go. Speaking of problematic. I love this song. Great pop song, though. It's gonna feel real good.
Starting point is 01:46:48 Gonna make a difference. Gonna make it right. As I turn up the collarbone, my favorite winter coat. This wind is blowing my mind. I see the kids in the street but not enough to eat who am i to be blind pretending not to see them And what then? So they follow each other on the window. Cause they got nowhere to go. That's why no one got to know.
Starting point is 01:47:35 I'm starting with the man in the mirror. I'm asking him to change his ways. And no message could have been any clever. If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change. Kudos to Toronto Mike, who wanted to make the world a better place. He took a look at himself in the mirror and he made the change. He decided he should not procreate anymore or have the ability to procreate anymore. But he made the change. He decided he should not procreate anymore or have the ability to procreate anymore.
Starting point is 01:48:07 He made that change and the man in the mirror agreed with him. You need to cut those balls. You need to tie those tubes. You need to put on that ice patch. Yeah. You know, during this lengthy conversation, the ice block that's in my
Starting point is 01:48:23 garter belt thing. What are they? Jock strap thing. Wow. What do you call that thing that you put the cup into? It's called a jock strap. It's also the name of the head. But you don't call it a garter at all? Garter holds up your socks.
Starting point is 01:48:39 I think I had my garter held up my socks and I could put the cup in it. No. Well, that was like a combo. That was like those shorts. That's like a plus two in one type of thing. Garter is something that like a bride wears on her thigh or maybe Leva Famke has a garter when she likes to have a little sexy time with Juan. Anyways, my ice has melted is what I'm telling you all.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Do you need to go do an ice refill? No, I'm okay. It's okay. It's a mild procedure. I don't want to make it sound like I'm suffering from my. Do you need to go do an ice refill? No, I'm okay. It's okay. It's a mild procedure. I don't want to make it sound like I'm suffering from my craft here. It's all good. Please tell us more about this potentially problematic jam.
Starting point is 01:49:13 I mean, listen, it is what it is. Michael Jackson, for what it's worth, probably would have appreciated all this talk about your procedure. He may, you know, he probably, you know, knowing Mike the way that we do, maybe he would have been okay with this
Starting point is 01:49:29 and this dedication. But obviously problematic, but prolific at the same time. And let's face it, let's face it. This is a hell of a pop song. Like what a jam. Yeah, really. There's a bit of a CanCon connection.
Starting point is 01:49:45 Okay. It was written by Glenn Ballard, who's not Canadian. I know where you're going with this. Finish this up. I know. No relation to Harold Ballard either. But Glenn Ballard, of course, he's the reason, well, one of the reasons, he was part of the magic sauce that made Alanis Morissette a huge star by producing her Jagged Little Pill album, which went on to become one of the Killjoy's favorite albums.
Starting point is 01:50:13 Right, right. Is that true? No. You've got to listen to the episode, Ken. I love that Stu now listens. It's like the best thing that's happened. Yeah, listen, what a song, you know. You know, one of the other writers,
Starting point is 01:50:29 here's a bit of a fun fact, Sadiya Garrett. So it's written by Glenn Ballard and Sadiya Garrett. Now, Sadiya Garrett is a vocalist who ends up singing, you know, with the choir and stuff in the background of the song when you get there. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:50:44 We're there now. You want me to turn it up a bit and then you can? Sure, sure. Which is a nice little part of this song, actually, which sounds really good in the cans right now. But who is she? She, you you know there's a mystery that's about to be unlocked for all of you folks uh listening at home who are big michael
Starting point is 01:51:10 jackson fans uh do you remember the song i just can't stop loving you of course cam are you familiar with that people used to think beautiful people used to sort of it was sort of a mystery like is that diana ross like who is that singing with Michael Jackson on that song? And it's her. This is the artist that co-wrote Man in the Mirror. She's the female vocalist on that song. Any relation to Edna Garrett? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:51:41 Possibly. Maybe through marriage. Or Brad Garrett from Everybody Loves Raymond. Song was produced by Quincy Jones. This was the fourth single from the album Bad, which was his seventh solo album, which that kind of mind
Starting point is 01:51:58 blows. That's a mind blow to me. I would consider Bad to be his third solo album. But I guess there's other albums that we didn't we don't even know about no good point good point because when i think of michael jackson solo i also think of bad as his third i think of off the wall then thriller then bad then dangerous then whatever came after that when i stopped kind of paying attention right but yeah this was his seventh album that's kind of shocking uh of course, famously, the Bad Music video,
Starting point is 01:52:26 which has nothing to do with this song, was directed by Martin Scorsese. But this video was kind of prolific, too. I don't have notes on it, but I have a memory, and I have memories of there being sort of like historical footage. Yes, Gandhi and Martin Luther King and the Ku Klux Klan or whatever. You know who was in this video? I don't know if you remember this.
Starting point is 01:52:48 Baby Jessica McClurg. Is that the girl that fell in the well? Correct. She was in there and I remember the part where it's like, change! And like an atom bomb went off in the video. Sort of like stock footage of like Hiroshima or something.
Starting point is 01:53:04 Yeah. And of course we know she was saved from the well and she ended up growing up and rebranding as leave a famka that little dutch girl i i've got a trivia question for you here yes again random and we we haven't talked about wrestling other than me flashing andre the giant yes jessica mcclurg pinned what former wwf title holder and like it was sort of like a charity shtick what what i i just remember this from like an after mag from back but i don't get to guess maybe jessica from the well pinned a wrestler yeah like that's like they sort of brought her out and like ladies and gentlemen I'll give you a class it was at
Starting point is 01:53:48 or sorry I'll give you a clue it was at like the world class whatever that place the sportatorium like Kerry Von Erich yeah it was like either Kerry Von Erich or Kevin Von Erich there's like a photo of baby Jessica I'll try to dig it up pinning like one of the Von Erich boys
Starting point is 01:54:04 wow no word if like his foot was on There's like a photo of baby Jessica McClure. I'll try to dig it up. Pinning like one of the Von Erich boys. Wow. No word if like his foot was on. On the rope? Or just in the dressing room maybe. Yeah, I could be imagining that, but I'm pretty sure it's Jessica McClure like pinning Carrie Von Erich. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Michael Jackson, Man in the Mirror, Baby Jessica. The song, huge smash hit. i don't need to tell you it topped the billboard hot 100 for two weeks becoming michael jackson's 10th number one single well it feels like it was much bigger than just two weeks as number one because i just remember that song sort of owning the year when it came out big jam and that's kind of his like purple rain right well i mean he was so prolific it's hard to say like uh he had so many monsters like when he played the super bowl wasn't this like uh one of the big songs he did yeah i think i think you're right wow well i'm thinking like heal the, make it a better place. But that all came after. So I think the way I kind of see it is like the USA for Africa song was the first kind of prolific sort of, you know.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Right. We are the world. And then this Man in the Mirror. Wow. Listen. You guys. Sorry. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:55:23 I have nothing. Go ahead, Cammie. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead, Cammy. Sorry. I was going to say, do you know who starred in the TV movie based on the Jessica McClurg? Can I guess? I'll guess. Jessica Simpson?
Starting point is 01:55:38 No, this is in the late 90s. I don't know if you'll get this. Bo Bridges was the star of this movie. Who played Baby Jessica? Baby Jessica was... Nobody famous. It's a baby. Laura and Jennifer Loesch. Yeah, you have to do twins. That's what I was looking for because it usually
Starting point is 01:55:53 is twins. Yeah, like kind of Mary-Kate and Ashley, etc. That's why I was such a rarity as a child actor because I didn't have a twin. So it's like you have to get the performance out of Stu or else, you know, you're screwed. So does that work like you just get fewer takes
Starting point is 01:56:12 when you're recording with a kid? Because it's like we can't work. Well, not only you can't work, it's like a kid. They like might not even understand what the hell is going on. You got like parents whispering like, say I love Leva Famke. And the kid's like
Starting point is 01:56:25 you gotta go again until they get it right still may i say you're very well adjusted for like a childhood star you would think i mean like i put on a nice a good show for you mike don't check his freezer is what you're saying the real the real friends of stew stone they know the dark side of stew stone okay that'll be my next documentary. Not necessarily a dark side, but you know. Well, I think you come across as a fairly well adjusted adult, considering
Starting point is 01:56:53 a lot of child stars aren't so lucky. I'm thinking of Dana Plato. You know, I'm single and I just have a lot of time to figure it out by myself. Maybe that's why. I'm just going to fact check myself. It was actually Kevin Von Erich. Thank you for doing that.
Starting point is 01:57:09 I don't think he ever showed up. Was he ever in WWF? Kevin Von Erich? I mean, he was inducted into the Hall of Fame. Was he really? Kevin Von Erich? Sure. I'm kicking out my third jam because you're too in the weeds there with some wrestling.
Starting point is 01:57:27 I only know that short chunk of WWF wrestling, so you've got to keep it there. Oh, by the way, Stu, you left your wrestler at my house last week. Oh, really? So do you have it on display? Not on display, but I have it because Jarvis would just take it.
Starting point is 01:57:43 So I just said, hey, that's my friend Stu's. You can have it if you play with it. It's in the box with the, yeah, but it's probably a collector's item or something. It probably has something. If it makes the kid like wrestling, then I'm all for it. Well, he's very susceptible to everything right now. You could probably brainwash him into being a huge wrestling fan
Starting point is 01:57:59 if you spent like five minutes with the guy. So next time you're in the backyard when he gives it to you, you can sell him on wrestling. But I'm going to sell you guys on my third jam and I'm dedicating it to Bingo Bob Ouellette and I'll explain why in a moment. Thank you. All right. There's a multitude of reasons.
Starting point is 01:59:17 We're waiting for one. I don't want to get angry, Mike, but my blood is starting to boil. Oh, we have a visitor. Hold on. I'm going to let in a special guest before I explain that selection here. Is it Tim? It is, in fact, the gentleman you know as Tim, who I know better as Ian Service. Welcome, Ian.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Whoa. Hey. He thinks he's Tom Green in the Check the OR video. Tim, are you wearing a Phantom Power t-shirt? That's fucking weird because we were talking about Phantom Power off the top. That is weird because we weren't live anywhere.
Starting point is 01:59:57 Unless he's bugged my home. Wow. Or Levee Fumka could have told him. No. Okay. So to catch you up, Ian, really quickly, this is Vasectomy Jams. And the reason, let me explain myself.
Starting point is 02:00:13 I'm playing The Stopper. I'm curious, do any of you guys know this song, The Stopper by Cuddy Ranks? No. Stu? I'm going to let you talk your way out of this because so far I'm about to cut your other balls off two reasons for this
Starting point is 02:00:31 two reasons for this one is the guy's name is literally Cutty Ranks okay Cutty is his name Cutty C-U-T-T-Y there was a Cutty in the wireU-T-T-Y. Wasn't there a Cutty
Starting point is 02:00:45 in The Wire? Yeah, because he came out of the cut. Cutty Wise is a great character in The Wire. But this is Cutty Ranks, pre-Dace The Wire. So C-U-T-T-Y. So Cutty, that alone makes it a great vasectomy jam. But this song is called The Stopper.
Starting point is 02:01:02 This procedure is the stopper. I procedure is the stopper. I can no longer produce sperm. I'm okay with this. I mean, if Stu's going to count down like man in the mirror. Right, this is better selection than man in the fucking mirror.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Actually, no, it's not. It checks out. You're the one that had your balls cut, so I will be very sympathetic to you and your awful pick. But yeah, listen, his name is Cuddy. You did have your balls cut. And the song is called The Stopper. And I understand you put a cork in your wine bottle, so to speak.
Starting point is 02:01:37 Sounds like you dig it. Okay, now I'm surprised, though. None of you know this song. No. I think Juan, I saw him dancing in the background there. Can you confirm, does Juan know the song The Stop think Juan, I saw him dancing in the background there. Lieve Fumke, can you confirm does Juan know the song The Stopper by Cuddy Ranks?
Starting point is 02:01:49 He knows. He doesn't know it. Ian, do you know the song The Stopper by Cuddy Ranks? Never heard it. Okay, so I dedicated it off the top to Bob Ouellette because one day maybe about a year ago, I don't
Starting point is 02:02:04 remember anymore. Time is just an illusion to me now, but he was kicking out Forgotten Jams and we kicked this one out because he says it was big in the early 90s because he was a DJ and it was a big deal, The Stopper. And then it disappeared and I was wondering if any of you guys...
Starting point is 02:02:20 And it took you getting a vasectomy for us to hear it again. I think it's a good jam, but you disagree. No, it is good. It is good. I kind of remember the name Cuddy Ranks. Any relation to Shabba Ranks, or is that just a coincidence? I think it's just a coincidence.
Starting point is 02:02:35 But yeah, it was around the time Shabba was a pretty big fucking deal himself. Shabba. Now, if you would have played Mr. Loverman by Shabba Ranks, that would have been a good pick. I know that one. Yeah. Flex Time to Have Sexabba Ranks, that would have been a good pick. I know that one. Yeah. Flex Time to Have Sex by Mad Cobra. That would have been a good one. I love that song.
Starting point is 02:02:50 I really dig that jam. Next thing you know, we'll be kicking out the... You and I will go full circle and we'll be kicking out Safe. Safe, yeah. My daddy rumbled. Right. I still can't find the guy. He'll track down one of these days.
Starting point is 02:03:04 And then we'll be told by cam that that's a massive attack sample massive attack that's right and then we'll our minds will be blown again one thing i know about that right and i know you know that that's how well i know you okay so let's uh talk about cam's fourth jam and then we'll check in with ian and just see how he's holding up because we haven't seen that son of a bitch. I don't recognize him without the exposed. What do you call that? The fiberglass insolent around. I mean,
Starting point is 02:03:32 he's got furniture. He's got stairs. He's upstairs. Who let him upstairs? I thought he was just squatting in an unfinished home this whole time, but he actually has a, you know, he's got a home.
Starting point is 02:03:42 It looks like an expensive home. Yeah. He looks like he's maybe went with Sammy Cohen. It looks, you know, he has got a home. It looks like an expensive home. Yeah, he looks like he's maybe went with Sammy Cohen. You know, he has been playing the drums a lot better lately. It's possible. Ian, did you take up Sammy Cohen on his free drum lesson? I haven't yet. I think
Starting point is 02:03:56 I should. Yeah, you should. So how are you doing? We want to hear from you for a moment, Ian. It's been a long time because we moved it to the backyard, so you would jump on Zoom and you'd be all alone because no one else would be here but how the hell are you doing? I'm great, how about you guys?
Starting point is 02:04:11 I think we're good I think as you know I put on the COVID-19 Cam lost the COVID-19 Mike doesn't have his balls anymore and Leva Femp is showing her well you gotta watch that though you have to go for a follow up test it's not immediate.
Starting point is 02:04:25 I know. I was well... I was instructed in 12 weeks. I'm making sure. I even have my rec form. I had to go for two. You also had a vasectomy. He's half the man he used to be. So do you... So these jams can be dedicated to you as well. So you too had like a pinch and a tug.
Starting point is 02:04:42 Actually, no. I got knocked out. I was like, forget that. Oh, I i was like forget that oh i didn't get the option i didn't oh no i went i went i went and i they they knocked me right out and i yeah it was great you didn't have to deal with any of that like you know i don't want to be awake while you're dealing with it oh what a what a wussy holy smokes okay sounds like he could probably like it's probably a good sleep like getting knocked out at like the doctor that's probably like a good sleep but then someone has to drive the dick doctor. That's probably a good sleep. But then someone has to drive you home, right?
Starting point is 02:05:07 I was in Oakville and Monica was working. I didn't want to worry about the wages. Mike drove his bike there. I wanted to. I mapped it. It was an hour each way, but apparently I'm not allowed to bike for seven days, so I couldn't bike back. Don't overdo it, though.
Starting point is 02:05:23 Yeah, I'm going to be careful for a few days. Good to see you. We're right in the thick of things here. In fact, this is going to be Cam Gordon's fourth vasectomy jam. Do you want to set it up or do you want me to just kick it? No. Like I said, these are all in order. This is just
Starting point is 02:05:38 to summarize. We had fix you. Your balls got numb. Then red. They're a little red. Let's see what comes next in that process. Good one. Very good. you saw, saw Captain Mr. Know-It-All, close your eyes and I'll kiss you, cause with the birds I'll share, with the birds I'll share this lonely view, and with the birds I'll share this lonely view, and push me up against the wall, young Kentucky girl in a push-up bra. I'm falling all over myself to lift your heart and taste your health.
Starting point is 02:06:30 Cause with the birth of Shad, it's a lonely view. With the birth of Shad, it's a lonely view. With the birth of Shad, It's a lonely view Scar tissue. Like the red hot chili peppers. Mike, did they warn you? Is there going to be a scar tissue? Any sort of damage to your area?
Starting point is 02:07:00 We should ask... Any damage to your red hot chili pepper? I don't anticipate any issues of that nature. Under the bridge, you know? Very good. We should be asking Ian Service who had it done, but I don't anticipate any scar tissue issues. No.
Starting point is 02:07:16 You have a scar on your balls, Tim? No. Give it away. Give it away. Give it away now. All good. All good. It's all good.
Starting point is 02:07:24 Yeah, so there you go. But just in case, you're right. This is a great selection. Also, this is like the comeback Chili Pepper song, right? This is the... Yeah, this is... Mike, something that you'll never get back. He gave it away full time.
Starting point is 02:07:38 It sounds like Ian had to do it multiple times. So his boys were such good swimmers. They said, fuck this. We can get around this. He had like Michael Phelps in his nutsack. Wow boys were such good swimmers. They said, fuck this. We can get around this. He had Michael Phelps in his nutsack. Wow, he's a real man. Wow. Ian, how many kids do you have?
Starting point is 02:07:55 Just the two. You're sure? You were sure about this? You were done at two? Oh, yeah. I didn't want to call Sammy Cone to i didn't want to call sammy cohen for bigger house okay all right just to confirm like you you guys didn't go down to the the what the sperm bank or get some extra tupperware just to keep some stuff frozen
Starting point is 02:08:16 you guys have any like swanson's frozen dinners any uh palma pasta Any poma pasta? No comment. No comment. No? Okay. This song, I mean, this is a big hit. I mean, this was a number, top 10 hit in the U.S., went to number nine. Even better in Canada, where it went to number four. It's got that guy from Back in the Future playing bass, right? Huh? The guy who plays bass in the song, he's from Back to the Future playing bass, right? Huh?
Starting point is 02:08:45 The guy who plays bass in the song? He's from Back to the Future. Was he in Back to the Future? He was. He was one of Biff's goons. There you go. He's also the guy from Young MC. That's right.
Starting point is 02:09:00 With the stuffed animal pants. Yeah, he's on the Young MC Jam, the big one. Well, that's a good segue. We talked about the video for this song. You might recall it was kind of the Red Hot Chili Peppers driving through a desert in a convertible. They all have head bandages. The same director, this name is not familiar with me,
Starting point is 02:09:20 but this guy is like a big deal. Stefan Sadnui directed this video, also did a shitload of other videos in the 90s including uh there's a bunch here i'll including today by the smashing pumpkins was also in the desert and uh mysterious ways by youtube that this guy also dated both bjork and kylie minogue. And they end up, yeah, you end up marrying, I don't know how you say her name,
Starting point is 02:09:47 Latita Casta. It was like a swimsuit model. I feel like she was like one of the mainstays of like the sports. Was she a swimsuit model in the chin picnic? She probably got her start there. I think Kylie Minogue and Bjork would be, Minogue and Bjork would be very different people. I just suspect that's two different
Starting point is 02:10:08 ends of a spectrum. That's a lot of range for sure. Absolutely. He also directed videos for Garbage, Tricky, the aforementioned Bjork, Fiona Apple. He also directed the video for Alanis Morissette, Ironic.
Starting point is 02:10:25 That's a big one. She was driving around in the back of a car. Wow, a lot of driving around in cars. And that brings us back to Glenn Ballard. Yeah, he certainly has a thing. Absolutely. And then Scar Tissue is also famously the name of Anthony Kiedis'
Starting point is 02:10:41 biography. What a life. Where he talks about all his sort of sex and drugs and rock and roll stories, named after this Red Hot Chili Peppers song and named after something that is not on testicles or on scrotums after this procedure. But I threw it out anyway. I kind of like this song.
Starting point is 02:11:02 Because I never named it. It's Bust a Move. That is the big Young MC jam. Of course. Something that Mike will no longer really be able to do. Bust a Something. Okay. Good choice. I like Scar Tissue as a song and it makes sense in this
Starting point is 02:11:17 wonderful, wonderful episode. So now, Stu Stone, what would you like to say before your fourth jam? Well, I'd like to say that this actually was a dedication from Mike Balls. Mike Balls actually contacted me and said, like, make sure that we have some say in what Mike has done to us and how we feel after this procedure has done. We didn't have any say in this. You know, Mike has sort of forced his hand, so to speak, the doctor's hand.
Starting point is 02:11:48 And we've got to now, we're fucked. And so this is actually directly from Mike's balls. So let's just play it. pieces this is my last resort suffocation no breathing don't give a fuck if i cut my arm bleeding this is my last resort cut my life into pieces i reached my last resort suffocation no breathing
Starting point is 02:12:24 don't give a fuck if i cut my arm bleeding do you even care if i die bleeding I'm losing my sight, losing my mind Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine Losing my sight, losing my mind Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine You guys familiar with Papa Roach? Sure, of course. Yeah. You know, this song is interesting for a lot of reasons. Obviously, it is about a very serious subject matter, but for the sake of this, we could take some, you know, make it more fun. But I was kind of shocked to learn, Cam, that this song first appeared in pop culture on a soundtrack in a movie in the year 2000.
Starting point is 02:13:29 In the year 2000. In the year 2000. And I don't think that you would really believe me if I told you where we were first introduced to this song. Like what movie? An American Pie? Ready to Rumble. Oh, with Biff Naked. The WCW movie with David Arquette.
Starting point is 02:13:50 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. With David Arquette, sure. And he later won the big strap. He did. He did. Wow. So, yeah. How about that?
Starting point is 02:14:05 According to the band, the song is influenced by hip-hop music. The Fugees and Wu-Tang Clan are cited as the influence for the song. Although the song does not actually feature a piano, the song was written on a piano. I'm Alan Cross. Technical production by Rob Johnston. The bass player wrote the song on the piano. That's another one of those bass player jams. They wrote that riff, and then they sort of turned it into a guitar riff.
Starting point is 02:14:30 And, quote, simple pocket grooves. I was playing something on the piano and Jacoby came in and started scatting over it. We just did our typical mixing of a funky kind of hip-hop groove with a punk rock chorus and that song just came together like that. Woo! It's a great song. It's a great song.
Starting point is 02:14:55 But there's another excellence. Went on to be a huge, huge hit which they didn't expect. The Much Music version of the video had an edit where the word fuck is completely removed with no replacement. Whereas in MTV, the word is just cut or bleeped out. Papa Roach has gone on to sell more than 20 million albums worldwide, which is kind of shocking to me.
Starting point is 02:15:19 But last resort, a big hit. They also had a song called Scars. I was going to say, that would have been a great song too for this week. So there you go. That's Cut My Life Into Pieces, which Mike did to his dick. Or his balls, I guess. I think every other week I remind you guys that I saw Papa Roach open for Eminem, who opened for Limp Bizkit in 2000.
Starting point is 02:15:44 Limp Bizkit is another band we could have used to describe your current status. I hope not. I don't know. I hope that's not true. That would be devastating. Ian, tell me that's not true. Well, according to Sass Jordan. Right. Dr. Sass. And Levee's laughing over there
Starting point is 02:16:00 because she thinks that's... She knows. That's inevitable. I'm glad you play. is laughing over there because she thinks that's... She knows. That's inevitable. Okay. I'm glad you play. You don't hear Papa Roach that much anymore. At one point, they had the lead song for Monday Night Raw. They were the Monday Night Raw theme. Do you remember
Starting point is 02:16:17 what song was She Loves Me Not? Whoa, I'll never give in. Whoa, I just want to be, want to be that. Wow. So this is actually maybe the fourth pick. Yeah, I feel like... Go ahead, Cam.
Starting point is 02:16:35 No, I was just going to say, I feel like this band is actually sneaky still popular. Sneaky successful. 20 million records. Yeah, that's nothing to sneeze at. They didn't even show up until 2000. That was really right at the end of the CD era when people
Starting point is 02:16:51 stopped buying albums. That's pretty significant. I don't know. Good point. Good point because Napster is coming in and you're right. You're right. They're sneaky popular. I think that's a good way to put it. I think maybe the Juggalos dig it or something. I't know yeah anyway i just slipped you some some news from twitter i just saw this as a scrolling strangely just as uh stewards mentioning mike's uh below
Starting point is 02:17:16 the belt region about uh some graphic content and dm i guess it looks like we're not gonna allow some of that oh so because because that's going to ruin everything. I can no longer send dick pics via DM. Okay, so interesting. Well, this little scoop, as per this tweet, she was the same one, Mike, you may recall, was the one who discovered that Periscope was... I wonder who's the person that can develop the AI, I guess,
Starting point is 02:17:44 or whatever it is that can detect that a photo is a penis. Right. Yeah, I don't know. Interesting. Interesting time. I wish I knew. Yeah. I guess there's probably been unsolicited dick pics received via DM.
Starting point is 02:18:00 It's one of the risks when you open your DMs. Isn't that how Juan and Leif have met? That's not how you guys met? That is how they met. How did you guys meet? Do you mind telling us? Lava Life. Oh, Lava Life. That's pretty much it.
Starting point is 02:18:18 When it was not like chat line or sex line. Is that what it is now? That's what it is now. Is it really? Like not like chat line or sex line when it was. Is that what it is now? That is, that's what it is now. Is it really? Does it just be a place to sort of have like mature sort of conversations?
Starting point is 02:18:35 Yes. Like Tinder. Yeah. I had Bruce Croxon in my backyard this summer. Isn't he the Lava Life guy? Yeah. Okay. He made a lot of money on that. Here's a fun fact. We won't say where it is because it's not published even though everyone on the call i think has been there but the lava life headquarters was across the street from where twitter canada headquarters is different building
Starting point is 02:18:55 but same corner in downtown toronto gotta keep that a secret i understand okay of course so i'm gonna kick out my fourth jam and i'm just looking at everybody's jams. I think everybody's fourth jams. Do you think that I should go on Lava Life? Like, is that a recommendation? I mean, could I find my own one? Aren't you going to go on J-Day? I could. I mean, that's...
Starting point is 02:19:15 Is that a... Stu, may I ask... That's a pretty specific thing, though. But can I ask, do you care, Stu, if you end up... If you fall in love with a Jewish woman or a Gentile? I don't think love has boundaries, Mike. I think love is love. You find the person or the thing that you love, and then that's what it is, right?
Starting point is 02:19:35 Cam found MF somehow. Anything's possible, Mike. So you don't care what religion. Love is a drug. You don't care what religion. Yeah, love is a drug. We all know the Verve song. You don't care what religion. Love is a drug. You don't care what religion. Yeah, love is a drug. We all know the Verve song. You don't care what religion a woman is.
Starting point is 02:19:48 You care about her personality. You know, Mike did quote a great song. I don't care who you are, where you're from, what you do, as long as you love me. Beautiful girl, lovely dress High school smiles, oh yes Beautiful girl, lovely dress Where she is now I can only guess Cause it's gone, daddy gone
Starting point is 02:20:24 Love is gone, it's gone, daddy gone Love is gone, it's gone Daddy gone, love is gone It's gone, daddy gone Love is gone, it's gone Daddy gone, love is gone Away So many things I want to say Firstly, I was aching to kick
Starting point is 02:20:41 Literally aching actually right now But aching to kick out of Violent Femmes Jam because I consider this band way ahead of its time. Who wants to guess what year this song, Gone Daddy Gone, was released? Just guess. 82. Yeah, I was going to say 82, 83. Okay, so you're right.
Starting point is 02:20:58 It's from, I think, 1983. But doesn't it sound... It has more... I think it's sort of a trick question here because we're used to hearing sort of the diy production sounds on the early on the other violent femmes like hits that kind of sound like they're recorded you know on a four track in a bathroom and this sounds like it was recorded and mixed in a studio so maybe that's the thing that's kind of fooling you it just feels like it's kind of like a precursor to that early 90s alt-rock that we all love.
Starting point is 02:21:29 Like, it just feels like it's much closer to that. Right, exactly. They're from Guelph, right? Are they from Guelph? Because that's where Ian... Yeah, London, I think. Oh, I thought they were from Guelph. Okay, because Ian's in Guelph, I think, right now.
Starting point is 02:21:42 So shout out to Ian's service. But this jam, I chose it because the song is great, but it's also called Gone Daddy Gone. And there's a sentiment there I thought might be appropriate because it's like, there is that feeling of
Starting point is 02:21:57 turning off the taps. Like, you know, that's it. Gone Daddy Gone. No more fathering for you like you're shutting it off for good so gone daddy gone but the love is gone um you know what i always think is interesting with the violent femmes i i find them very hard to categorize like obviously they're sort of in the bucket of like alternative rock but to your point mike given the that their heyday was kind of the 80s like they're they're not really like rem and they're
Starting point is 02:22:31 not really like other guitar bands i just popped on spotify to see you know that if you like this you might like this band right you know who the number one band can i guess i'm gonna say uh the pixies uh no that's a good guess. They're actually the fourth band on this list. Okay, what is it? The top four are the Meat Puppets, the Breeders,
Starting point is 02:22:56 the Replacements, and the Pixies. And then we got Soul Coughing, we got Lemonheads, Ween. They might be giants. That might actually be closest. I kind of think that they're sort of like a punk rock, alt rock. They're not punk rock, but compared to other alt rock acts,
Starting point is 02:23:18 they're sort of punk rock. Yeah. I think they were always sort of like their shtick was like acoustic punk rock. They're sort of like FU, you know, CK. Yeah. Right. Well, this was the first. So this was the first single that they ever put out, Gone Daddy Gone in 1983. This is the very first one.
Starting point is 02:23:35 You know, a lot of, they have a lot of big hits, of course, American music. And yeah, I think it's an underrated band though like an influential you know add it up I think I don't know how many times we've kicked we must have kicked out a few by this at this point uh we've had a few uh has have any of us seen the Violent Femmes play shows I feel like they also hate I think we talked about this they hate each other I think like they tour in spite of personal differences did we kick out of what i feel like it's kind of like pandemic friday like you know it's the 40th week we all hate each other but you know we pull it together to do this i think when we kicked out the swearing jams the
Starting point is 02:24:15 effing jams i might have kicked out add it up yeah maybe that's what i did so uh i also played blister in the sun for like warm weather jams. Right. That's a great jam too, man. Oh, man. I think it's a great band and Gone Daddy Gone. And again, big cover of that. It was a big hit recently or fairly recently with Narls Barkley. That's right.
Starting point is 02:24:38 So shout out to Narls. Okay. Someone was trying to call me. Someone was trying to call me and I took a picture of us in Zoom and I said, I can't answer the phone text only. I'm in a Zoom. And he thought I was lying. So I took a picture of the Zoom and he wrote back, Jamie Lee Curtis? Oh, is that Levi Fumka? Is Jamie Lee Curtis? Wow. That's a compliment, Levi. Or Ian. I think he's talking about Ian.
Starting point is 02:25:07 Ian looks like he's been eating Activia yogurt to keep himself regular. Okay. Yeah, he does. He looks healthy. Hey, holy smokes. But leave it. You do look a bit like a young Jamie Lee Curtis. Well, that's sort of what happens to you when you get fixed, Mike, when you have your pets spayed and neutered, as you and Ian have had. You know, the blood stops flowing to downstairs and starts flowing elsewhere, and you look healthy. You have a healthy sort of glow.
Starting point is 02:25:33 Your hormones kind of... So let me tell you my fear, because Sash Jordan put this in my mind. I can't get it out now, and it's too late now. I did the procedure this morning. But Ian, your hair looks like it's starting to thin. Like, did that happen after? Am I wrong? Doesn't his hair
Starting point is 02:25:45 look a little wispy? What kind of thing is that to say? Bring your hair closer to the camera and bend over a little bit. Oh, you know what? I'm just saying that, Mike. I hope that it happens to you. I don't want to lose my hair. I'm pretty sure this was destined to
Starting point is 02:26:04 occur. So, if equals like zero testosterone you're going to start growing yeah I'm going to yes that's exactly what's going to happen here okay we'll find out I'll report back every week and tell you if there's any development there final jam time I'm excited
Starting point is 02:26:19 side effect of having we've just witnessed the side effect of having a vasectomy is you become you, you know, instead of having balls, you become a complete asshole. What did I say? Ian, did I offend you? It's rude. It's just, you know, there's a certain sort of, you know, rule, an unwritten rule. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:26:38 Ian, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you. I just wondered. It's like, oh, you got a real punch there, you fat fuck. Like, come on, we don't talk to each other it looks like you lost a few inches downstairs my vision's not very good
Starting point is 02:26:53 I can't even see this little zoom picture of you I'm sorry buddy hey pizza face 30 minutes are free you know we don't talk to each other like this on this podcast when was the last time somebody... Do you talk to Dana Levinson?
Starting point is 02:27:07 No. When was the last time somebody called somebody with pimples Pizza Face in the wild? When was the last time that happened? When did we see Jeff Eason last? Did he use that? Pizza Face, I feel like a Revenge of the Nerds era. Okay.
Starting point is 02:27:24 Cam, do you want to say anything before your fifth jam? I feel terrible now that I've hurt Ian's service's feelings. Ian, tell us if you're okay. Are you offended? He's cool. You won't let it go. You're making it worse. Fucking throw the shovel away, Mike,
Starting point is 02:27:38 and just move on to the next song. Okay, I have a brief intro. Mike, do you know this song? No. No, okay. I only know two songs by this guy i only know two songs by the way my friend i said that it actually is jamie lee curtis and he's like wait that's actually jamie lee curtis so that's cool wow good stuff thank you uh ian all right uh what are we gonna say about this jam, Mr. Just play it.
Starting point is 02:28:08 Stu's going to fucking hate this. I don't think Stu will. I don't think Stu will. My dad ain't work construction My brother too He got me in the union I'm paying my dues But the woman I love has expensive taste She's never satisfied
Starting point is 02:28:44 The latest things A diamond ring Love has expensive taste. She's never satisfied. The latest things, a diamond ring, a car with an ultra glide. I work so hard and for all that stuff. Eight shifts a week,'s never enough I'm laying pipe all night long Laying pipe I'm working so hard It's like laying pipe all night long Wow.
Starting point is 02:29:17 Laying pipe by Canadian blues rock legend David Wilcox. Does anyone know this song? I remember vaguely the laying pipe part of it. I remember Do the Bearcat and a couple
Starting point is 02:29:33 of those kind of jams. Riverboat Fantasy. So this is from an album David Wilcox put out in 1987 called Breakfast at the Circus. The video for this song has some like some of the best YouTube comments ever. Just talk about how lame David Wilcox looks. They got his clothes at Zellers and stuff. This song is ostensibly sort of a blue collar anthem
Starting point is 02:30:01 about, you know, trades people and... Lame pipe. Yeah, but it's obviously innuendo about penises and having sex laying... Thank you. Laying pipe all night long, working so hard. My back hurts to please that woman. So a lot of certain... Things Mike won't be able to do anymore now that he's... Well, no, no. It sounds like in about seven days
Starting point is 02:30:26 he'll be back laying pipe. Seven days I can lay pipe. With the beautiful Monica, hopefully. Hopefully. And yeah, like, again, like, I just thought, you know, some... I don't know. I don't know why I chose this song, to be honest.
Starting point is 02:30:43 I think I just like laying... This song was actually a hit in Canada. It went to number 62. I bet you Q107 played the hell out of this. I bet they still do, maybe. I don't know how I missed it. I feel like, you know, not that I would know, but I feel like if you go to a male strip club,
Starting point is 02:31:00 they probably play this song, and some guy comes out with a tool belt and a big hammer and sort of shakes his penis around. Yeah, sort of. strip club, they probably play this song and some guy comes out with a tool belt and a big hammer and sort of shakes his penis around. Yeah, sort of. Yeah, kind of like a village people... This might be a new weekly thing where I pick a secret word.
Starting point is 02:31:16 Did I hear that in The Stopper by Cuddy Ranks? I heard that horn. Yes, that was a different reason. So, okay, let's use this as a segue to another sort of i want to hear more about laying pipe but what do you mean laying pipe is he like uh he's working on developments building developments he's a i mean the video shows just a lot of people working like steel factories and like you know sort of northern ont Ontario. I mean, David Wilcox has probably played more shows at like rib fests and kind of
Starting point is 02:31:48 small town theaters than most other artists in this country. Does he play Lane Pipe? Lane Pipe is like the closer. He just opens for Kim Mitchell everywhere, right? Yeah. He's also a dead ringer at this point for
Starting point is 02:32:03 John Levy. Do you know who who that is the guy who runs the score are you talking about Mark Levy Eugene Levy's brother is that who that is David Wilcox is one joins the Watchmen and some other artists Canadian artists who have some tour dates
Starting point is 02:32:21 coming up is actually playing in Norfolk, Connecticut, March 21st. Should we rent a Sprinter van? That seems ambitious. Probably not a good idea. Also has a date in Ottawa. He's booked to play the Bronson Centre Theatre, September 4th, 2021.
Starting point is 02:32:43 Small chance that could happen. Small chance. Yeah, so this is going to be my question for you guys. And I feel like we talked about this maybe a little last week. Are we going to be seeing any indoor rock music next fall? I know Sammy was tweeting that the Watchmen have some dates in the calendars. Are we going to see any indoor rock music in this country in 2021?
Starting point is 02:33:04 I think you will, yes. I think if enough people are vaccinated, you might have to show that you have a vaccination card to enter these types of places. Yeah, immunity passport. Which I like that idea. It's like your immunity passport and you show it and it lets you do things and then those are the people, unless you have
Starting point is 02:33:20 a medical excuse, you can't do it. You can also get the microchip just implanted so they can just scan you that you, you know. Well,, you can't do it. You can also get the microchip just implanted so they can just scan you. Well, that's what the vaccine is. Isn't that why Bill Gates developed it? Absolutely. Did you guys see this? I think it was on BlogTO. It's suggesting some Toronto restaurants are checking IDs
Starting point is 02:33:37 to make sure you're a local resident. Yeah, I did see that. That's for the out-of-town places. I think you can go to Niagara Falls and go in a restaurant or something, but it's like people are coming from Toronto. They're just making the drive on the QEW there, and they don't want people coming from these COVID-infested hotspots. Well, that's something that you're not going to have to worry about anymore.
Starting point is 02:33:57 I wouldn't eat inside a restaurant right now if you paid me. I would do a patio. $30,000 would you eat inside of a restaurant? Oh, that's, that's not be silly. Like a cash up front. And then we'll talk about the terms, but yes. So don't make comments like that. I mean, ever since that you got your balls cut, you have really, you know, am I wrong, Kim?
Starting point is 02:34:19 I'm getting sort of an alt-right vibe too. I'll be honest. You can be talking about, you know, the kind of, I saw this thing on OANN or whatever. Listen, Stu Stone, listen to my words. He got his balls cut and now he's become a dick and an asshole. You know, Ben Shapiro, he has some interesting... Listen to me now, hear me later, okay? I had a major medical procedure this morning.
Starting point is 02:34:40 I was advised by my doctor to do nothing for the remainder of the day. He said, don't do anything. Just rest. Instead, I'm spending almost three hours working. I'm working right now, hosting this podcast. You're laying pipe. Cut me some slack, Jack. You already cut some slack earlier in the day.
Starting point is 02:35:00 On that note, can I kick out your jam? Who, mine? Isn't it your turn? I've got to set this up. Okay. You had a nurse, right, that you mentioned today? A helpful nurse. I don't know if she was a nurse, but she was a helpful young woman, yes. Do you remember her name?
Starting point is 02:35:19 No. Because I do. Her name was Cheryl. Did you know that? No, I don't know if that's true or not. Stay with me here. Okay, I'm with you. Stay with me here.
Starting point is 02:35:28 Her name may have been Cheryl, correct? It might have been, yeah. Now that I think about it. So, you know, Cheryl reached out to me, and she had known about some of the other songs that we were going to pick here today, and there was a song that she really liked so much. She basically wanted to provide people like you and tim who've gone through this
Starting point is 02:35:48 already uh you know for people who haven't gone through you know because i know that you broadcasted that you had a vasectomy and you had a blog entry about it sort of detailing that it's okay guys you know it's okay it's not too painful She sort of recorded this song that sort of recanted the instructions that she gave you before the procedure. You follow what I'm saying here? I do. So this nurse, Cheryl, recorded herself singing this song, and it's sort of her giving you the instructions and sort of telling you what you can expect from this procedure.
Starting point is 02:36:24 So go ahead and play Nurse Cheryl. I would have given you all of my heart. But there's someone who's torn it apart And he's taken just all that I had But if you wanna try to love again
Starting point is 02:36:59 Baby, I'll try to love again, but I know The first cut is the deepest Baby, I know The first cut is the deepest But when it comes to being the deepest I literally, Mike, I was tempted just to do all five of my picks just to be the first cut as the deepest songs. I was going to do that.
Starting point is 02:37:30 And then, you know, obviously I had to call an audible at the line once you went with one of the versions. Right. But let's talk about this one for a second. And we will blow some minds here. I know Liva Famke is dying to know what is going on here. I'm going to explain it to her right now. The nurse Cheryl is actually Cheryl Crow. You're familiar with the name Cheryl Crow?
Starting point is 02:37:53 Wow, in Oakville at this vasectomy clinic. Cheryl Crow, amazing. Look at that pizza. Some pizzaville. It was a rainy day in pizzaville. Mike doesn't have to worry about dialing 1-800-FREE-SEX-FREE-SEX anymore. Right. Mike doesn't have to worry about dialing 1-800-FREE-SEX-FREE-SEX anymore right the first cut is the deepest Sheryl Crow wrote this song
Starting point is 02:38:10 all the way to the charts and became one of her biggest radio hits this is number 14 on the Billboard Hot 100 her first top I slipped oh my goodness I hope the doctor didn't slip followed up
Starting point is 02:38:25 her single Picture with Kid Rock if you remember that song of course this song stayed in the Hot 100 for 36 weeks
Starting point is 02:38:32 eventually hit number one I like Picture by the way I don't care I'm talking about this song the first cut is the deepest I know I like Picture
Starting point is 02:38:40 go ahead Cheryl Crow we already have covered her in the past, I think. But for those that are unfamiliar, she has songs like All I Want to Do is Have Some Fun. Strong Enough. If It Makes You Happy, It Can't Be That Bad. Every Day is a Winding Road. My Favorite Mistake, I kind of remember.
Starting point is 02:39:03 Picture with Kid Rock. I Want to Soak Up the Sun. She's got a lot of hits. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, before she became a famous singer, she was 10 feet from stardom, I guess. Is that the word?
Starting point is 02:39:15 Six feet? 20 feet? Was it 20 feet? 20 feet from stardom? Maybe 10 feet. I don't know. With one of the artists we heard earlier in my countdown, Michael Jackson famously had Sheryl Crow as a backup vocalist during his Bad Tour from 1987 to 89.
Starting point is 02:39:31 So two years. Wow. She toured with Michael Jackson singing Man on the Mirror as well. The song I Just Can't Stop Loving You, which we found out who the real singer was. Sheryl Crow is the one who sang it with him on that tour. Wow. Is that kind of cool. Is that true? It is true.
Starting point is 02:39:47 She also has known back then, she was a studio background vocalist for Stevie Wonder, Belinda Carlisle, Jimmy Buffett, Don Henley. Wow. Boys of Summer. So Sheryl Crow. Did you mention my favorite Sheryl? Don Henley is also known as the drummer from the Eagles. Right. Did you mention my favorite Sheryl Crow. Did you mention my favorite Sheryl? She's also known as the drummer from the Eagles.
Starting point is 02:40:05 Right. Did you mention my favorite Sheryl Crow song? I don't think you did. Leaving Las Vegas. Leaving Las Vegas. I didn't mention that one, but that's a good one too. Yeah. And so there you go.
Starting point is 02:40:17 But listen, as much as we love Sheryl Crow, let's give a couple of mind blows that aren't really mind blows, but here's a, this would be if the nurse was in broad, right? Ironically rod is just below the rod is where you had the procedure done. Listen to Rod. Wow. Might be the best version.
Starting point is 02:41:01 I like the Keith Hampshire version. How old is Rod Stewart these days? The first cut is the deepest Baby, I know The first cut is the deepest You know the version, Leave a Fam Cut? Did you know that Rod Stewart at least, is this blowing your mind a little bit?
Starting point is 02:41:35 Yeah, see? That's good. He's 75 years young, Rod Stewart. And he sounded like he was 85 years old at this point when he was singing. His vocals have this sort of old man vibe to it, but it's charming. Rod Stewart recorded this song in Alabama in the United States. It appeared on his 1976 album, A Night on the Town.
Starting point is 02:41:57 It was released as a double A-side single with a song called I Don't Want to Talk About It, also known in Canada as I Don't Want to Talk About It. Very good. It was a huge success. This version of the song, the first cut is the divas spent four weeks at number one in the UK and number 11 in April in Canada
Starting point is 02:42:17 of that year, 77. I wasn't born yet. Cam was born. Yeah, Stu wasn't born until 1980. That's what I saw on Wiki. I saw that. It reached number 21 in the United States. So a bigger hit in Canada than the United States. The song kind of came back again in 93 when Rod Stewart did MTV Unplugged and did a version of this.
Starting point is 02:42:41 And that's all I sort of remember about it. But there you go. Rod Stewart singing the first cut is the divas and who's the what was the artist you did that you had uh playing the song mike keith hampshire keith hampshire the guy from okay blue jays right right uh of course uh the original version was done for a guy called pp ar. Arnold? Is that right? The original version is not this one? The original version is by P.P. Arnold, but it was written by... Are you playing it right now? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:14 It's the real version right here for Leva. Is this Cat Cast Feud? Yes. It's a good version of Cue Yes Yeah. Yeah. That kind of sounds like you're keeping up to date. Yeah, you know, a lot of people don't realize this, but the first cut is the deepest. I mean, that's got to go down on, you know, at least like a top something of songs that were successfully covered so many times.
Starting point is 02:44:10 That could be a whole episode of Pandemic Fridays. Songs that have been successfully covered over and over again. Because you have Cat Stevens, you have Hampshire, you have Rod Stewart, you have Sheryl Crow, all hitting the charts with the same song. That's not bad. We should kick out jams that have been top 40 hits by three different artists. Three artists at least.
Starting point is 02:44:35 Yeah, listen, as far as your balls are concerned, I wanted to make sure that I got one last... Of course, I've got to do a mind blow. You probably wouldn't feel the blow at this moment, right? You're pretty numb down there.
Starting point is 02:44:48 But, you know, I'm very proud of you, Mike. You've done a really good thing for your wife and you've done a really good thing for society as a whole. And if more men were brave like you, they too would get the old snip snip on the old ball strings. The most reliable form of birth control.
Starting point is 02:45:12 Yeah. Congratulations, Mike. Real proud of you. And as I said at the beginning of the show, you know, this is the first episode that you were freezing knowing your balls because Cam and I have been very chilly
Starting point is 02:45:25 the last month of doing these shows. So, congratulations. Good luck. Let us know how it goes in 12 weeks. And if you need help with the emptying process, Cam will be there for you. You know, it'll feel like some strange... Oh, I'll wear a mask. He'll be safe.
Starting point is 02:45:42 He'll wear a baklava mask. Yeah. Maybe in 12 weeks we'll be vaccinated. Who wear a baklava mask yeah maybe in 12 weeks we'll be vaccinated who knows maybe podcasters go to the front of the line I don't know yet you are an essential worker
Starting point is 02:45:51 yeah you ain't never stopped yeah I still have a jam to go and if we don't play this jam there'll be riots in the street are you ready for my final jam
Starting point is 02:46:00 yes Jam? Yes. Problematic jam? Mildly. Says the guy who kicked out Michael Jackson. I have this image of him sitting in in scenes like carving an apple with like a pocket knife in this video in black and white am I crazy here I'll bring it down so I can hear you better but uh you know I like to play loud and proud at the beginning but uh I think that's... Sorry, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:46:46 No, I mean, no, I was just listening. But Big Jam, like, are you kidding me? What a monster jam Cuts Like a Knife was for Bryan Adams. And I know he's said some problematic things lately, but still one of those Canadian artists, especially for us guys from the 80s. This song came out in 83 as well. So it's kind of interesting to think that this song
Starting point is 02:47:08 and Gone Daddy Gone were like released at the same time. It's interesting. That seems like a totally different universe. It just feels like they're from different decades. Like this song to me is very 80s and Gone Daddy Gone could have been 90s. But okay. So do you guys remember
Starting point is 02:47:26 like like i mean we're all similar vintage i have a couple years on you but uh these the string of hits from brian adams on canadian uh top 40 radio was something special you know brian adams and jim valance uh teaming up i mean do you guys remember like your first Brian Adams song? Like, do you have any memories? It would have been the first one for me. I had MTV as a kid. Uh,
Starting point is 02:47:49 my dad had a satellite dish. So we had the American channels and I remembered this video. And then of course, heaven and run to you. And yeah, a whole, that one with the, I need somebody,
Starting point is 02:47:59 somebody like you. Right. Uh, and he had one with Tina Turner. It's only love. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just, I don't even know what would have been the first i feel like uh all for love everything i do i do for you yeah well those are later but yeah the uh like the run to you you mentioned that was the empty
Starting point is 02:48:17 uh swimming pool right i thought that was cuts like a knife oh maybe they're bleeding together like a knife is like swimming pool and him carving an apple with a knife. Okay, okay, okay. So, okay. So the straight from the heart. It sort of happened to you today. You had your apple carved with a knife. So to speak.
Starting point is 02:48:36 Now, he had a bunch of singles that are forgettable in the late 70s. I think I talked about this with Mark Weisblatt. Like, he had, like, disco stuff. Like, Let Me Take You Dancing and stuff. I did not know that. Mind blown. If you would have played me that, I would have been mind blown. Well, I could play it for you in a minute. The first big album we all know is
Starting point is 02:48:51 Cuts Like a Knife. That's the name of the album. The first single was Straight From the Heart which is a great jam. That's a good song too. Yeah, and then Cuts Like a Knife is on that. I'm Ready is on that. Then the next album is called Reckless. And this one's just a giant album.
Starting point is 02:49:07 It's got Run To You, Somebody, Heaven. Summer of 69 is on this one. Oh, Summer of 69. How did I forget that one? I know. Don't bury the lead there. But just massive. I mean, this guy kind of owned the 80s.
Starting point is 02:49:18 And then in the 90s, again, he's got Everything I Do, I Do It For You, which was a number one smash everywhere. And then Can't Stop This Thing We Started. And honestly, Thought I Died and Gone to Heaven. There will never be another day. Have you ever really loved a woman? Please believe me, I can't stop loving you. And we just played Rod Stewart, All For Love,
Starting point is 02:49:37 remember, with Sting and Rod Stewart? Yeah. Yeah, have you ever really loved a woman? I'm me, there's pain I'm going through. Please forgive me. Can't stop loving you. Keep going, buddy. That's fucking great.
Starting point is 02:49:53 Fucking great. It's only a set of pipes. I promised I'd shout someone out really quick. T.O. Resident on Twitter saw that we were doing vasectomy jams, and he said we should be kicking out a Chumbawumba song. I only know one Chumbawumba song. I don't know about you guys. But I did pull it because T.O. Resident is a good chap on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:50:15 It's called Snip, Snip, Snip. And I don't think any of us know this song, but I'll be shocked if Ian's got it on his iPod or something here. Ian's not here anymore. He left when you made fun of him. I feel bad. He's thin as skin. Cyberbullet.
Starting point is 02:50:37 So, I won't play too much of it, but this is Chumbawamba's Snip Snip Snip. I love that song. Shout out to T.O.ip, Snip, Snip. I love that song. You said nobody. Shout out to T.O. Resident, and thank you for that. And guys, here's what we're going to do. First of all, thank you for being here. I do much prefer it in person,
Starting point is 02:50:54 but I'd rather do it on Zoom than not do it at all. That's something you're going to have to get used to, not doing it at all. Seven days. I can make it seven days, I think. Thanks for doing this but here if you don't mind uh I'll play us out here and then uh hang on because I want us to record a very short little video for a very special FOTM who's uh turning 65 years young next week
Starting point is 02:51:23 and this video will be played for him on some special Zoom party that's happening for him. We're recording that in post. Is it Brian Master? Good guess. I think he's a little older than that actually. I think he's in his 70s actually. Brian Master? I guess that would make sense.
Starting point is 02:51:40 I think so. We're Sammy Cone people around here now. Sammy at Sammy Cone.com. But thanks for doing this guys. That was a lot of fun as usual. Yeah. Good topic.
Starting point is 02:51:53 Yeah. That was a lot of fun. And thanks for getting your balls snipped for real. I know we've been breaking your balls metaphorically. Obviously we can't do it for real. Uh, cause you don't have any, but we,
Starting point is 02:52:02 we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
Starting point is 02:52:03 we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
Starting point is 02:52:03 we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
Starting point is 02:52:04 we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
Starting point is 02:52:04 we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, Can't do it for real because you don't have any. But we have had a lot of fun breaking those balls back when you had them and kicking you in the balls often for your terrible picks.
Starting point is 02:52:11 40 weeks in a row. You know, 40 weeks. This is the 40th Pandemic Friday. And listen, you turn 40 and things change. You get your balls fixed. Probably maybe you got a finger or thumb up the tuchus at the examination. I'm not sure. No, yeah, that's 50, I think.
Starting point is 02:52:25 Oh, that's 50. Okay. Something to look forward to. Best of luck with your new nuts. And that brings us... And that... And that... And that...
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