Tosh Show - My Favorite Cameraman - Andrew Huebscher

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

Daniel reunites with his former television show’s long-time cinematographer, Andrew Huebscher, for a chat about growing up in Minnesota, USC film school, and how he would fix the podcast’s lighting setup.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Welcome to Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Welcome to Tosh Show. I am your host, Daniel Tosh, and with me is Eddie Gosling. Eddie? Hello, Daniel Tosh. Welcome to the show. Thank you.

Thanks for having me. Well, it's good to have you. I don't want to start this podcast with a fart joke, but here goes. All right. My son the other day was running and I was chasing him. And while I was chasing him, he farted. He gets excited sometimes and it comes out.

It doesn't matter. By the way, my son can't fart without my wife screaming, go to the bathroom, you need to go to the bathroom. I'm like, and I'm always like, one doesn't mean the other. I agree with you. She's like, no, no, if you're farting, you have to go poop.

I'm like, okay, anyway, sorry about that. So he farts and then he said, we're laughing about it because he's a kid, he's a five year old. Five year olds are allowed to laugh at farts. 50 year olds are allowed to laugh at farts. Anyway, he says to me, hey, dad, do you think that while I was running, when I farted, that the fart made me run faster?

And then, before I even got to say anything, my wife just chimes in, yes, that's your NOS button. It's a kind of bait. I'm like, well, they don't even need me anymore for comedy. The both of them got it all figured out. I thought it was the funniest exchange ever. I just sat there and was like, well, you guys did it. That's hysterical.

He, he's running farting. Says, does that make me go faster? And she said, gets your NOS button. You don't want, you don't want to press it too soon in a race. Perfect. Pretty good stuff. All right. What are we doing today, Eddie?

Dear Tosh Show. This is quickly becoming one of my favorite segments. Dear Tosh Show is where I take a question or a thought from one of our subscribers or a family member or someone that I just randomly heard on the street, and I solve their problems. All right, here we go. Uh, people that listen to music, watch videos or use speakerphone

without using headphones around other people. How do you solve that problem? Thank you, Alan. Alan, that is a real problem. And I have a real solution. That's also fun for almost everyone with an earshot. Okay. It's very simple.

I just stand up, walk as close as you can to them and pretend you have Tourette's. Shit, fuck, pussy, cunt. Shit, fuck, cunt, pussy, and throwing a twitch. Shit, pussy, shit. Pussy, pussy, pussy, shit. Okay. They're going to wrap up a call. End the call.

No one no one's explaining that on a business conversation. That's immediately that they're going to quickly. Oh shoot. Oh, hey, I got to go. I'll call you back. And then if they they approach you like what's wrong man? What are you doing? They have Tourette's.

This is a disease. Imagine shit shit. approach you like, what's wrong man? What are you doing? I have Tourette's. This is a disease, imagine. Shit, shit. Mexicans. Tourette's is fine if it's just swear words. It's when the racist terms start flying, you're like, oh. Okay, this guy's gonna get himself beat up.

Or elected president. Hey. Hey. All right. Speaking of big orange orang-a-tangs, do you see the new Planet of the Apes movie? I did not see it. By the way, new is relative. I think it's a few years old. Whatever. The latest one. Now, I loved the semi-new installment of the trilogy that they did. Thought those were great with Caesar. But I recently watched the new one, which is set many generations into the future

and the monkeys have won and the humans don't talk anymore. Okay, whatever. I just wanna get to the- I can listen to you talk about movies like this. The monkeys have won. The monkeys won. They're the top of the pecking order. Although, and there was a disease or something

that went around and people can't talk. All right, whatever. And monkeys talk. But they're still, I haven't figured out a lot of shit. Who cares about the movie? This was my problem with the movie. And possibly a problem with Hollywood in general, that you might not think that I have this take on.

But when we let like anyone be a model, not just the pretty people, you get where I'm going. This movie, I didn't think the star monkey was attractive. He didn't seem cool. He looked you know Like little little little doofus like a character like a like an idiot. I don't know Yeah, he didn't seem like he didn't have the star power that Caesar had Caesar like was such a good-looking monkey like holy cow. I would I would follow this monkey I would have been the first human to fall in line

and be like, no, no, this is my king, this is my prophet. But anyway, this new one, I just was like, kept looking at this monkey and I'm like, Hollywood, come on. Can you make the star of the movie a little sexier? It was just hard to believe that this would be like the one that everyone would turn to. he just didn't seem like a leader And I guess that was kind of part of it like oh, I just feel like he could have got beat up by like a ton of other monkeys He didn't have he didn't have that it factor as far as monkeys go

The whole time I'm just watching the movie going. I don't I'm not attracted this monkey in any way This isn't a Brad Pitt. This is like what's his name? Who's the guy from the brutalist? Oh Adrian Brody Is this is an Adrian Brody type? I know I'm not saying that this monkey's not talented. I'm just saying that he's not he's not like Popcorn sure yeah. Mm-hmm. This is the Messiah. This looks like something you come home from the fair with. You know, he looks more like the rally monkey at a Dodgers game where you get the little Velcro hands and you hook it around your head. You know, kind of remind me of, what's that TV show with with this sniper day of the jackal? Yeah That that guy Eddie Redmayne. He's like he's such a he's like a little doofus looking guy

And then his wife in there is just so beautiful and I'm like, oh man snipers get all the hot chicks What I could do this conversation all day though, I'll tell you one more problem about this monkey movie very dark and just not Tonally just actually I get night. I can't see anything that's going on Hey, you know who's gonna love this talk is uh today's guest my cameraman Oh, nobody nobody can bore me more about lighting and and talking about film Then today's guest. Enjoy. Our iHeart Radio Music Awards are coming back

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for him, it was a low budget show and everyone else just wanted to finish and go home. Please welcome my former director of photography and the only member of the crew I wasn't scared to talk to, Andrew. Good to see you, Daniel. Andrew, thank you for being here. By the way, do I have a good side? All sides. Mmm, that is true. Andrew, do you believe in ghosts? Absolutely. I have a friend who worked on UFO hunters and the ghost equivalent of it. And he said, absolutely, like, ghosts are real, UFOs, not so much. Oh, so he doesn't believe in any alien life form, but he does believe in ghosts. This was as of like 10 years ago, but yeah.

Oh, yeah. Well, the evidence now. Yeah. You know, I would, you could maybe get me to go the other direction, but not that way. All right, did you like growing up in Minnesota? Well, Minnesota is a beautiful place. It's wonderful. But as somebody who was closeted, like, it was tough.

I just thought it was always such a blue wall up there. No, I'm wrong. Yeah, I think the blue wall kind of is around parts of like downtown in some of the suburbs, but... I'm doing two shows in your hometown in Minneapolis. Okay. The Twin Cities. How come we call it the Twin Cities, but yet St. Paul gets no love ever?

Well, I think in St. Paul, things tend to close earlier. It's more, like, government cultural, whereas Minneapolis is where, like, you know, the stadiums are, it's where the nightclubs are, it's where probably the best restaurants are. Where's the big spoon with the cherry on it? I like that thing too. That's the Walker Art Center.

Oh man, I love seeing that big spoon. You ever go walk that, Eddie? Haven't seen the spoon. You've never seen the spoon? You've gone to Minneapolis for 30 years. I know. And you've never walked by the big spoon? No.

That is bonkers to me. I got so many photos of me on dates with comedy club waitresses in front of the Big Spoon. In front of the Big Spoon. By the way, you also lived in Florida. That's right. For two years as a child. Yep. So, grew up in a suburb of Minneapolis called Edina.

I lived there until I was about 11. And then my dad got transferred for work to Florida. We lived in a suburb of Orlando called Lake Mary for a year and a half, two years. Did you love Orlando area or no? It was a culture shock for me, kind of coming from suburban, like conservative, you know, Minneapolis suburbs to, you know, central Florida.

When I moved to Florida as a 12 year old, I just hated it. I grew to love it. But I didn't know that you were supposed to be embarrassed to live there. But immediately when I moved there, though, I hated it. And everyone would ask me, I know they asked you something similar.

They asked you, are you a redneck or a surfer? Those were the two things a white kid could be. They always wanted to know if I was a surfer or a skater. And what did you answer? That was the first question. I remember the first time I heard it, I didn't know how to respond. Right, because you liked to roller skate, I'm sure.

Why would you say that? I don't know. I was a terrible skater. So actually I was just uncoordinated altogether. So I fell into the yearbook like team. You know, I was in the group that wrote the yearbook that like took all the photos. And then you put so many photos of yourself in there.

Yeah, not many of me. I was behind the camera. What was your dad doing at the time? What job was he getting transferred around? My dad had his own business. He sold construction materials, so like PVC piping, that sort of thing. And what happened was there was a recession

in the late 80s that caused his business to shift around a little bit. And so he chased some clients in Florida. And then eventually that fizzled away and work went to overseas markets and whatever. And my dad's business kind of imploded. And so things got really tough, and my mom came in and ended up taking care of us.

By the way, your father recently passed away. He did, yeah. I'm very sorry to hear that. He came out to you when you were 18 years old. Yeah, by this point I knew that I was gay, and I wanted to tell my parents about it, but my dad beat me to it. Like he sat me down.

I just didn't see this coming at all. I mean, did this just shatter your world? It kind of pushed me back in the closet in the sense that like, I was just, I just didn't know how to respond to it. And it was like, there was too many emotions that were coming up. You know, when you're closeted, you compartmentalize it.

You learn to hide it. And so I kind of went back into the closet and then it was two years after that that I came out to them. I remember some details that you may have purposely left out. Your dad once came to you before he came out and asked you if you were gay.

He told me that, he asked me that when he came out to me. Because he knew his son and had probably a Pretty good read. I think he probably he was giving you the easy coming out and you said nope I'm not gonna fall for this because I knew I wasn't fully ready to do it yet And you couldn't be in the middle You can't sort of half come out because that would just create too much skepticism that's that's bisexuals that half come out No, well my dad at the time actually said he was bi. Okay. He said he says I'm bi because that would just create too much skepticism. That's bisexuals that have come out, no? Well, my dad at the time actually said he was bi.

Okay. He says, I'm bi, I have a preference towards men. And I was confused by that because that doesn't really define being bi. But I didn't ask him any more questions about it because I was still processing it. Looking back on that moment, did you react the way that you wanted to react?

I mean, in hindsight, I would have come out to him then. Okay. Because why wait? Well, no, I know. I have always felt when any, the handful of times I've been fortunate enough for a friend to come out to me, I've always been like,

the only thing that's ever bothered me is like, oh, I hate that you had to not keep something. Or that's always the thing that you've to like not keep something. Or that's always the thing that you've been. And then when it's your parents, that's such a weird thing. Did you like side, I mean, how'd your mom handle this first of all? Well, she had already known for some time, several years, I think.

I think it was difficult for her, but she had started to move on. They had already been separated for several years at this point, even though they still had a relationship in the sense that they were taking care of us together And did their relationship get stronger over the years after this between them? Yeah, I mean as far as a friendship that had ever turned back into a friendship or no It was a friendship by the way did your father have many female relationships in his life or no? No, I mean I think they met when she was right out

of nursing school, you know, they were in their early mid 20s actually, yeah, mid 20s and got hitched right away. You have twin brothers? Twin older brothers and a younger sister. And all of them are gay? No. No? No.

No, how did they handle this? They were accepting of it. My sister, even when I came out to her. Well, I just meant, I mean, accepting of you seems easy. It was the father one that seems like it'd be the tougher pill to swallow for kids. I think that, I mean, it would have been more difficult for them not understanding it. Not knowing what it's like to live with the secret and how you could have, you know, a life that's, that's in a sense, not being totally honest to your, your true self.

I've thought multiple times, how would I react if my father came out to me, just because of your situation? Yeah. And I was like, I have, this really makes sense. I can, I can piece it all together. Where'd you, where did you come out to Matt? Where were you guys?

I told my parents, I wanted to take them to dinner. Both of them together? Yep. Public place? No, no, actually at my dad's house. Okay. We did it. And I just point blank told them because I didn't want there to be any doubt. Right away at the beginning of the meal?

At the end of the meal? No, no, it was after the meal. What would you guys eat? I have no idea. You don't remember what you ate that night? This was like 30 years ago. I don't care. What was your dad's reaction when you actually finally came out to him? The first thing he said was I need a drink, but kind of tongue-in-cheek. More

like a cocktail? He's like let's party kid? No like I think he just appreciated the irony or coincidence of the situation and probably enjoyed that he would have somebody, you know, close that he could relate to. Listen, I have always said that I think a gay man would make the best father and husband to a woman. When I was, I don't know, in my late 20s, he came out to visit and he helped me move into a new apartment in West Hollywood, it was my first West Hollywood apartment

and it was like a Sunday night and we had finished moving and I had some friends over, we ate dinner and I thought that was gonna be the end of it and as we were, I was saying goodnight to everybody, he turned to me and he said, well wait, we haven't gone out yet. And so everybody had surprised looks on their faces, like they knew about my dad,

but he wanted to go out for a night on the town. So we did a bar crawl along Santa Monica Boulevard. Rage? Did you go to Rage? We didn't go to Rage. We went to Trunks. We went to Mickey's. I love you.

I think we went by a place called the Normandy Room, which was a lesbian bar back then. He got kicked out of there for trying to smoke inside. God damn, he's from Minnesota. You're the coolest dad in the world. You didn't even know it. Talk about how, as a young child, you got into wanting to be a cinematographer,

filming, all of it. I would say from a very early age, before we had any cameras, I'd walk around the house and I would like make a little frame, like I was composing shots. For a while I thought I wanted to be a meteorologist. That doesn't make sense. Yeah, I mean, I can attribute some of it

to admiring the light, but I love thunderstorms, I love snowstorms, I love weather events. Like I liked the drama of, you'd be watching a TV show and there'd be that little beep beep beep, the weather call would come at the bottom of the screen and issue a tornado warning. I would also say that I noticed light. Like growing up in Midwest was beautiful.

You get four seasons, the light is very dramatic at different times of day. All right, so as a child you were into it Yeah, so I made super 8 films. I made like Videos with my brothers like we got a hold of a camcorder like a friend's family friend lent us one and so I give a high 8 it was a VHS. Oh man. Yeah, real cool We'd set it up and we you know discovered quickly that if you put it on a tripod and you start and stop it You could make like objects move around if you didn't move the camera. How old were you when you took your first dick pic?

Ha ha ha. And do you set it up before you take it? Right, light the area. Sure. Filters. Um. Ha ha ha. You don't have to answer that.

Um, you went to USC film school. How competitive of an environment was that? I mean, I, at the time, I think they said they accept like 20 or 30 applicants out of one or two thousand. So, you know, I was surrounded by people who wanted to be writers and directors. There weren't as many people that were, you know, into editing, cinematography, production design. Were you super smart? No, I wasn't really book smart, but I was, I had drive and I was creative and, you know,

it took me five applications to get into the film school and ultimately I think they were, they were looking for somebody who could, you know, express themselves creatively and I remember I ended up writing a letter in my final application. This was the last time I was trying to apply to the school before I pursued a different tack. I came out, you know, I described my coming out story to my best friend at the time. You played the gay card hard, didn't you?

Yeah, I mean, I had been told, I had met all these graduate students who were telling me that they wanted to see some kind of personal statement. And I didn't have the, you know, I came from Eastern Europe. You had a personal statement. You just didn't want to share it at the moment. By the way, USC, crazy expensive. Yeah.

How'd you, did you force the parents just to like deal with it? We weren't able to do that, so. Okay. I got grants, a lot of financial aid, and some help from other family members. Were you in debt after you graduated? I was.

Oh, that's good. But you stayed out in LA, did you ever give up on the dream and move back? No. Do you care about USC? Sure. Do you go to the football games ever? No. Did you ever go to a football? I have gone to the football games. I went to all the football games. But the seats at the Coliseum were really uncomfortable. They're not good. I always liked going when I went to the Coliseum I was excited because they had like big old sausages that were like chicken based or something Well, because I can't I don't eat beef. So I was always like, oh there was something fun to eat there I don't eat beef. I don't eat pork. I used to not eat pork and then I have children

Well, you have a pig I know and you eat I take around it Well, I don't I don't like go ha ha ha look what I'm eating Yeah, I eat Here's the thing. I don't order it, but my children, we let them eat what they want to eat right now. And if they're eating something that has bacon in it and then they don't finish it, I have this weird thing where I don't let food go to waste, so I just end up eating it. Okay.

I'm not proud of myself. By the way, the American Society of Cinematographers gave the Greg Toland Heritage Award to the best up-and-coming cinematographer and you won that in 1999. Who the fuck is Greg Toland? Greg Toland is a cinematographer who most famously is known for having shot Orson Welles' Citizen Kane and he was a pioneer. He actually shared a title card with Orson Welles in the film, which was considered a big deal at the time. But he designed lenses, he built lenses, like he was one of those craftsmen that just knew, like when there was a need for something, he would design it. He would figure out how to build it.

All right. So you got this award in 1999. Yeah. That's pretty great. That was right out of the gate. It was. Basically. A big deal.

And then you ended up on Tosh.0. That seems not like the normal trajectory of somebody. Do you hate green screen? No, but I don't think I can see the color green anymore because I was around it so much during the time I worked on the show. Do people realize how much stuff you shot because they always just think of the show like, oh, didn't you just stand in front of a green screen the whole time?

I don't think they realized how many other things were shot for that show. Yeah, I mean, there was the Selena Gomez music video parody we did. Kara Topp still talks to me about that dumb thing. He's like, that was great. He couldn't memorize a word. Talk about what a good time working on Tosh.0 was

and how easy I am to work with. The hours were great. Huh? Yeah. That's something. I'll take it. We had summer hours. We'd come in at, I think, 4 a.m. to light a set to be rolling by six or seven o'clock

and then wrapped at 8 a.m. It's like nobody else in the business. Heading home at morning rush hour. That is bonkers. Go get breakfast at the end of the day. Yeah, well listen, what are you talking about? We always had those nice little breakfast burritos. That's true.

All right, so you didn't have a good time and I wasn't easy to work with. That's fair. No, you were... We didn't always know the Daniel we were going to get, but it was always exciting. What does that even mean? Whatever the script was, we knew that it could change at a moment's notice because you could work with something... You would respond in the moment. And we had to light the show in such a way

that anything could change at any moment. And so we were always thinking on our feet, like there was never a point where we felt comfortable. It's been over 13 years. There was never a point where you felt comfortable. I mean that in like a creative sense. And so everybody was kind of ready to dance and think on their feet if needed. But they also got to go home at nine o'clock in the morning. I mean that in like a creative sense. And so everybody was kind of ready to dance

and think on their feet if needed. But they also got to go home at nine o'clock in the morning. So yeah, well, that was only toward the end that I forced everybody to start working at crazy early hours. Oh, that's such a silly idea that we had. Well, you know what I liked about working with you? What's that?

I'll tell you what I liked. Now, all the things you think, oh gay? No. That's a plus but not what I, you're good at your job? No. Couldn't care less. I think it comes down to it's like, you're also quiet. That's a huge plus but like you just like did your shit. But the real thing is probably just being from Minnesota. There's just something about people from Minnesota that I've always liked. Minnesota Nice they call it. Oh man, what a good name.

They're just nice folks there. When movies were predominantly shot on film, everyone talked about how fantastic digital would be. Now, which is better? It's subjective, but it also depends on what you're doing. I think there are some shows that will always work better, or some movies having been shot in film. But ultimately, it comes down to budget and what you want it to look like.

You know, you can look at digital, it's just like a different film stock choice. So like you can choose to shoot on film, it's a different process, it has a more natural look to it. I think the way the tones interact with each other, the grain, there's a dimensionality to it. Beautiful.

I hate what you're saying. I hate what you're saying. Well because anytime you would set stuff up, I knew always, I understood that you knew what you were doing, but I always would just need to walk away because I just know that like setting up shots, it just takes so long. And if you're not into that, then especially

if you're like doing comedy where it's like, who cares? I'm just telling so long. And if you're not into that, then especially if you're like doing comedy where it's like, who cares? I'm just telling a joke. Oh, it's painful how long. I think you have to be passionate about it in order to survive because the hours can be long, the pay can be crap, the food can be worse.

And it can be difficult and a slog, but if you love it, like you don't think about that. That kinda disappears. We gotta get you on a, you need to be working on Shogun. That seems like that would be a project for you. You got a hookup? I don't know, no, but if we do find a hookup, then I need to find a way for you to let me meet that star.

Oh man, she is pretty. to let me meet that star. Oh man, she is pretty. You were on the set of the one where Alec Baldwin shot someone. I was not on Rust, no. Oh, okay, that is, sorry about that, Eddie. That's Eddie's fault. Eddie, you got me.

You ever shot a gun? I have. I went to the shooting range with Scott Zabelski once when he was. Wow, great. Scott Zabelski was a producer on Tosh.0 and he's the one that introduced us to you. Which is weird because Scott is,

if you were to draw a photo of a heterosexual man, it would be Scott Zabelski. Like just his hair, he's a cop for fun. That's the weirdest thing in the world How did you guys know each other we met at USC? Okay. Yeah USC you guys just all take care of each other. You're kind of like Harvard bunch of assholes. Aren't you? probably For somebody that has worked in film and television as long as you have you never got fat and disgusting You've always Somebody that has worked in film and television as long as you have, you never got fat and disgusting.

You've always, you're always in perfect shape. I'll be honest with you, sometimes I felt like you you became a cameraman just to show off your arms and hold a camera. Right, carry stuff around. Yeah, you always, you'd always just like, there's the tightest shirts too. Am I, has that changed or are you still wearing

skin tight shirts? I can see that shirt's pretty tight. I mean, you know, I'm a homosexual, so. I know tons of homosexuals that are physically not in good shape. I just never liked the way, you know, baggier shirts looked on me, but I didn't know how to dress. Like, up until, I don't know, in my early 30s or late 20s, I think I wore mostly flannels and baggy clothes.

I've never seen you in a baggy outfit in my life. Oh, I'd love to give you a photo of you in a baggy shirt. That's what I wanna see. You work out every day? Just about. What's the process? What do you do? Well, it's changed,

because I used to be more into like weightlifting for strength training, but now it's really just, I like high intensity. So I do like a bootcamp style workout, workout at home. You carrying a sandbag around like an idiot? No, no, just like some dumbbells, a mat kind of thing. Uh-huh. Yeah, I like the, I get a mental high from it.

Not everybody gets that. No, I know, I never had one. Yeah. That's why I don't work out. Clear my head and. You do it early in the morning or late at night? Try to do it early in the morning. Like what time?

Today was 6 a.m. And that's earlier than normal? It's about that time. Okay, so 6 a.m. every day, you're sweating. Ugh. Yeah, how many total days in your life would you say you've gone into a gym? Oh, that's hysterical.

Not for a shoot. That's hysterical. Two, five, maybe 10. And never as an adult, I can remember in college going into a gym, I guess. I just think it's dumb. I'm never gonna look good. I'm never gonna get a body that's...

Like Rich Piana. Just, you know, I'm never gonna have arms. I should do it. You care about what you eat too though. Yeah, but I cheat. Okay. I'm not super rigid. Desserts, do you like desserts? Yeah, I have a sweet tooth. You know, I'm not super rigid. Desserts? Do you like desserts?

Yeah, I have a sweet tooth. I just ate old cheesecake that was in the refrigerator. I don't even know where it came from. It was like mushed into a Tupperware bowl. And I just was just, Carly was throwing away. I'm like, wait, wait, give me that. I wouldn't eat a lot of the meals that the crew would eat. But when you found out that Panda Express

was being catered, you would get emotional, visibly upset. Yeah, and one of your staffers over there, like relished in the opportunity to serve Panda Express. Yeah, I've changed Pete as much as I can. We call him Life Hack Pete. You guys got a shortcut for everything. But, uh... Life Hack.

Bang, bang. But, uh, but yeah, his taste in food is always a little bit questionable. There was somebody who worked on the show whose wife worked, I don't know, something to do with food safety, and she said that the chicken that they used in Panda Express is like grade K chicken,

or it was a low grade chicken. Oh, great, great. But if it goes to Z, that's fine. Let me tell you something, Panda Express, if you're a sponsor of the show, and I know you should be, grade K is fine with me. By the way, do you have to be strong to be in your business? No.

I mean, what a camera, I mean, do you carry a camera? Yeah. You're lugging stuff around all day long. Sure, sure. I mean, you know, you have assistants, you have a team that can help you. And if you're on a union job as a cinematographer, you know, technically you won't have to touch any equipment if you have, if you hire camera operators.

Are you always doing union jobs or do you ever get to do non-union work anymore? A mix, I would say. Do you ever sit on that train track? On the, on the dolly? Yeah. Yeah. Is that fun? That's a lot of fun.

I love the train. You ever say choo-choo when you're getting pushed around? I remember being told by a producer on this show that we were never allowed to have a Dolly track. Why? Just because it would take too much time. Okay, I like it then. The thing was this show,

what people don't understand, they may understand, it's pretty simple. The reason that the show worked is the way I understood it. You can do shows a million different ways and they can work and be successful or they can fail for a million different reasons but the way I went about it was okay if I have a show that cost Way less than every other show they're doing it won't have to do as Well to for them to say it makes financial sense to keep the show.

That was just my thinking. And then it got to a point where, oh, the show was doing well, but it cost less. Well, now I want to just make all that money. So give me all the extra money you would be spending on an expensive show. That was my thinking. And so let's keep the show cheap. I probably should admit that, right? That's bad, but whatever.

That was my thinking. Simple economics. What projects of yours are you the most proud of besides Tosh.0? There's a film I shot called Big Time Adolescence that went to Sundance and did well. And it's a dark comedy. I love the writing in it.

Very well directed. It was first time director, writer named Jason Orley. And I liked my work in it and the experience of making it. In terms of cinematography, name your top five favorite films and I will bet you all the money in the world that I haven't heard of any of them. Top five films, favorite films for cinematography? Yeah, for you, yeah.

The Godfather. Mm-hmm, didn't see it. No Country for Old Men. Oh, I saw it, loved it. It's a beautiful masterpiece, Western. You like Westerns? Yeah. Why?

Um. I didn't mean it like anything, I was just saying why? You guys are like. Why would he not like westerns? They're just amazing. Classic stories, they're not quite fantasy, but they're not quite reality. Whenever I see that world, I'm like,

thank the Lord that I wasn't born during that time. I wouldn't have survived in that world at all. It's not, the Western world is not cut out for a man with IBS. No. Citizen Kane. Oh fuck, all right. And it's not just because of the Greg Tolan thing.

But it's inventive, it's beautiful. It's black and white. You like that. Silence. Number four, American Beauty. Shot by Conrad Hall. Do you always know who shot a film? A lot of times I do.

I mean, I'll research it in advance or. That must be fun going to the movies. I'll go and read about the cinematography after a film. Natural Born Killers. I'm just thinking about when that came out, that movie was so, the cinematography was explosive. It was so inventive and creative. I love that.

Shot like super a chop video, shot by Robert Richardson, it was just, you know, amazing, does beautiful work, did a lot of work with Oliver Stone, now works with Quentin. Is Quentin done? Um, I mean, he said that I think he was gonna do one more. No. But, uh, I don't, you know, it's like Cher, where she says farewell but really

she means hello. Do you rush out every time Cher says this is the last time? No. Everybody's on the show gets gifts. Oh it's just stuff from around my house. But anyway um first first I want to give you is these Chomps protein bars. They're turkey. Chomps, you're supposed to send me some free shit. You haven't sent me anything. I don't like these jalapeno ones. They just don't taste as good.

So I don't want any of the jalapeno ones. Don't worry about that hair. Anyway, you'll get some snack on your way home. There's some of those. This. Thank you. Yeah, get that off the desk. This is a little, a board that my brother-in-law

and his wife gave me this year. And they're like, oh, did you like that? It's like a wave, because I like the ocean. I'm like, no, yeah, it's fine, but this, it's dumb. First of all, who am I serving this to? Like, I'm having one person come over, I put a Lunchable on here, they're like, oh, look at this. Anyway, you'll like that.

That's lovely. Thank you. Here, we have these C-Stans. Is that what they're called? That is, yeah. C-Stans, we've got three of these. We bought them for this podcast and we don't use them. So I don't want them.

And I want you to take, don't let this touch my desk. No. I swear to God, if you drop a C-Stan. He-stand. He's got the strength. Will you need these for anything? I will actually. Okay, well guess what? Well you're welcome. Very helpful. You're welcome. For tax purposes for myself to write this off, what did I, how much are these worth? $170 each. I'm just guessing. Okay. Okay, that's not a bad gift then. No, that's great. That's not a bad, that's not, that's great. That's not a bad That's not hold on won't last gift now worth the drive This you're you probably wonder why am I giving you a printer? Oh, it's nice. Okay

That was a that was a good Move you just did there Shoulder workout. Okay this printer. Okay. See that's why I don't have to work out because I give heavy gifts away. This printer is brand new. I got it for when COVID hit and the show was temporarily shut down for a bit. And I was in Tahoe and they're like, oh, we're gonna shoot, you know, up in Tahoe.

I'm gonna put a green screen up in my garage. Anyway, I needed to get a printer. That was way long story. Never could get it to work. Anyway, I needed to get a printer. That was way long story Never could get it to work and then Pete tried to get it to work and he couldn't get to work He goes, oh, I think the ink dried up and I'm like, how's the ink gonna dry up? Just sitting in a house for three years, whatever And then he put change the ink cartridge and it would only print blue and I'm like I go that can't be right and he's like no he goes and then he said something And I'm like, I go, that can't be right. And he's like, no, he goes, and then he said something that I'm not gonna repeat,

but then he says, it doesn't work anymore. I go, there's no way a brand new printer that has sat in my house for three years only printed in blue ink for two weeks. So anyway, he's like, well, it doesn't work. I'm giving this to you and then I want you to fix it and print something and then I will fire Pete. Thank you.

Okay. Can I take it now? Yeah, please take that off. Don't drag it. All right. Lift straight up. All right. Look at that, show how strong you are.

Wait, you have a gift for me? I don't want to be under... I did bring something for you. What did you bring for me? It's a book that my mother wrote that is based on me as a boy and my childhood imaginary friend. Well, I don't... First of all, why the blonde hair? Because I was blonde. Really? I had blonde, straight, long hair as a kid.

Nothing straight about you. Also holding a gerbil is a bit. It's a hamster. Oh my bad, sorry. The Adventures of Andy. It's a children's book, I know you got kids. I do, I'll read it today. Did you go by Andy?

Yeah. Do people still call you Andy? No. Oh, I didn't think so. I get mad when other people that like know you better have a different name. I'm always like, whoa, that's not, you don't call me Andrew?

No, his real friends call him Andy. Congratulations on getting married. You just got married this past year? Two years ago. You got married two years ago. How long together were you guys together before this? My husband and I actually met at USC. We were randomly assigned as roommates,

like literally into the same bedroom. Oh man. It was for summer housing. Hottest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, and so there was another roommate there too. Oh, poor guy. We. Yeah.

Poor guy gets to college at USC and the other two rooms are just banging each other constantly, he's like, God damn it. He would tell the story better than I, but I was starting USC and the other two members are just banging each other constantly. He's like, god damn it. He would tell the story better than I, but I was starting to come out. I had only just come out to one friend at SC and not even to my parents yet. So there was a closet full of flannels.

This was like the older me. And I had a book that had a kind of topic of homosexuality and the spine was turned around. I don't know why I did this. I was closeted. So I had all these books and then there was the spine was turned around. I don't know why I did this. I was closeted. So I had all these books and then there was one that was turned the other direction. And he saw that and saw what it was and started to, you know...

Oh, good for him. Did you guys ever hook up in college? We were boyfriends. For how long? Like, about a year, I think. And then we actually broke up. I dumped him and then we were apart for 17 years, I think. Whoa!

Yeah, we were in and out of relationships. Kept in touch the whole 17 years? Not in touch the whole time. Okay. No, we went off and lived separate lives then we got back together about 10 years ago. One year in college, 17 years off and then he calls you up and you guys are like,

right back, this is gonna work? This is a relationship? It was uncertain in the beginning, but it turns out when you're in your late 30s, you're a bit different than being 21. What does your husband do? He works in finance. Wait a second.

Your husband works, is like, has a family office. He's a family office manager. Right, net worth of one of his big, big clients. He doesn't talk numbers. What? Yeah. You think he embezzles from them? You ever think you're gonna knock on the door and like all of a sudden you're both in handcuffs?

I don't see that happening. I would be terrified because my business managers, I love them more than anyone. And I know for a fact, if I found out they'd been stealing from me for 25 years, I'd be like, oh. They're like, well, haven't you looked at your statements in 25 years?

I'm like, nope. I haven't. I sure hope they're not stealing. Okay, so he doesn't steal. No. Are you and your husband faithful to each other? Yeah, you guys don't you guys don't allow some like bullshit like Oh Hall pass thing. We're very honest Okay, but does that mean that you occasionally do stuff like that then?

Goddamnit you do All right Got to put everything on the table. Uh-huh, I get it. Just get it off my table. You think you'll live in LA for the rest of your professional career? Possible, but there's a lot of uncertainty right now in the business, and so I don't know where my career is going to take me. I think I'll always travel wherever I'm based, but I think it's increasingly that I can be based anywhere and still do what I do.

What advice do you have for some kid that wants to move out to LA, wants to be a cameraman someday? What all do they have to do? I think the industry is shifting. I think filmmaking is changing and there's very much been a shift from away from like traditional films, movies, TV shows and towards smaller creator driven projects. You know when I was starting out I had a couple of options. I could try the studio system where I work as an assistant and eventually work my way

up to you know camera operator, maybe shoot second unit. Or I could just start making my own projects and meeting other filmmakers. And that's the route that I took. And I wouldn't have made a different decision today. The downside of that is you don't get to work alongside other people and kind of learn from mentors as much. But I think shoot as much as you can, make what you're passionate about, find like-minded people, and break the rules. I think it's important to learn filmmaking, learn the basics, and then try stuff out and play. Do you have to go to film school?

Absolutely not. You don't? No. Particularly now, you can learn so much on YouTube. You said you wouldn't do anything different if you came out today with creating your own content Etc, but would you do the whole USC thing again if it were today? Yeah, probably oh All right, and I think it's because it's a great environment to meet other

You know like-minded people financially is it is are you struggling for a long time? If this is the path that you choose? That can be the case. I mean, is there work out there? It seems like there's so many platforms that are making content now, but yet it seems like no one's working. Yeah.

How are both things true? I think there's more, because I think the economy is different now. You're producing for this medium as opposed to... I mean, you might get lucky and develop a following and find a brand, but it's also very competitive. The barrier to entry is lower than it's ever been. Technology is everywhere. I mean, there's new cameras coming out like every day

and people are shooting movies on iPhones. I heard the new iPhone 17 camera is gonna be a game changer. Oh I can't wait to shoot on that. Yeah. Are you gonna see what is it 28 months later that's coming out? 28 years later? I haven't seen any of this stuff. Danny Boyle directed. He shot that on an iPhone. You seen Tangerine? Tangerine? Yeah. Sounds like something I might have seen but no. That was the film about, let's just say, life around Santa Monica and Highland, and it was directed by Sean Baker, shot on an iPhone. It's beautiful.

It's a lot of fun. I'm not gonna watch it. I don't like movies. No? I do. I just don't like to, I don't know how to end it. It's not four hour movies. Oh, God, don't even, no, there's no world where I'm watching four hour movies. Oh God, don't even, no.

There's no world where I'm watching four hour movies. Did you see Wicked? I did. Did you like it? Yeah. I thought it was really good. Yeah. I didn't wanna like it.

I was like, please don't like this. Please don't like it. I'm like, God damn it, I love it. I loved Wicked the whole way through. I thought it was fabulous. Does it make you angry that John replaced three camera men with two poles and a tripod for this podcast? Well, I think you're just doing what you have to do

and the economics of a podcast. What do you think of the lighting in here? I have notes. You wanna tinker, don't you? Yeah. Every party wants to tinker. Yeah. What's the problem?

Well, that light source there, it's a bit harsh. Like it could be a little softer. I can tell the type of diffusion material being used. I mean, I don't know how it looks on me, but I've watched some of your other podcasts. And, you know, like, I think you could go softer with it. I think that there, you could... That's probably working as an eye light,

but it might be giving some double shadows We always had an eye light for you on the show so we would set something low you could put back here You know I always wanted to have it right here But I couldn't because the center camera would see it mm-hmm so because your eyes kind of are are sunken back a little bit So yeah, they are you want to see them? Oh god, so I didn't know my eyes were sunken back I like you could do the Anderson Cooper thing and like cut into the desk and then put a piece of glass and then they So you want to see them pop. Oh, god damn. I didn't know my eyes were sunken back. A little eye light. You could do the Anderson Cooper thing and like cut into the desk and then put a piece

of glass and then they would just have a light, like an eye light that would fill you in. Anderson Cooper has children. Okay? I want you to have kids, jerk. All right, Andrew, thank you for being on the show. Thanks Daniel. Oh, Jesus, Andrew. Why are you so aggressive?

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I just thought about this a little more. The idea that he went off to college and his roommate became his husband one day, right Just saying that's not fair for the straights How much better? would college be if you knew that you might get paired up with someone that you got to have sex with? Oh, wouldn't that be great? I mean, how exciting would it be to walk into a room like, oh my goodness, this could be my wife. I think it would actually help college enrollment. Certainly it would

increase people wanting to live in the dorms because here's the thing, if you knew that you could potentially be signed up with a girl in your dorm and that you guys might have sex, that's awesome because it's gonna make way more guys want to live in the dorms and it's also you're gonna say well it's gonna make way more guys wanna live in the dorms. And it's also, you're gonna say, well, it's gonna make less girls want to. True, but the girls that do want to, you know that they're ready to go. They're gonna be, those are the horny girls.

They signed up for something. Yeah, they literally signed up for it. Okay, that's not fair. Just because they signed up to live with a man doesn't mean that they want any hanky panky. But Carl, head up, you're gonna wanna hear this. It also makes the RA's job that much more exciting. You know?

Oh no, some dude's not taking the hint. She's not into him. I gotta get in there and see if she's interested in me. Yep. Oh jeez. So, oh okay. It's just gonna be fun. It sounds like a new acronym.

It's, my point, you always have this perception of what college is going to be, right? You're like, oh, I'm gonna get to college and be girls and have sex and it never is that. It's like oh I have classes and and it's hard and I'm just study all day. This stinks but I think this uh you know co-ed dorms rooms that's where it's at. Anyway all right we got some plugs. We have the ToshShowStore.com. Get yourself some merch. We got our tours, EddieGosling.com,

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Alright, well, it's time for our free plug. Go ahead band, crank it up. You like classical music? Alright, the free plug. You guys know I love heavy metal. Well, why wouldn't you play heavy metal? Why'd you do a classical music if the plug is for heavy metal? All right. I don't need to tell you that if I were to be in Wisconsin Dells on April 4th you would find me at the Legacy Dinner Theater to watch the number one Metallica tribute band working today hardwired oh man are you kidding me hardwired those are the guys from Tampa Florida yep yep says it right there Tampa Florida yeah if if ever there was a job that's like oh I'm in a Metallica

tribute band I would be worried. You from Tampa? Seems like it would go hand in hand. Oh, a hundred percent. There's nothing more nail on head than a Metallica tribute band from Tampa, Florida. All right. They've performed hundreds of performances all over the

U S pretending to be Metallica. It's no wonder they have become a household name in the tribute world. I wonder how Lars feels about tribute bands. Remember back in the day, Lars was the big Napster killer. Just couldn't handle anybody listening to music for free. But I wonder how he feels about a tribute. He might actually be playing in the band for all I know. By the way, is he or is he not the worst drummer

out of all the big successful bands? Absolutely. Yeah. Pete says yes. Pete's our drum expert. Pete's a drummer. He says yes. Wow, man. Why does he get such a voice in the band for all these years? It's like, why do I know his name?

You shouldn't know a drummer's name, period, let alone a shitty drummer. Come at me, Metallica fans, if I'm wrong. Now don't get me wrong, I love Metallica. I used to have, in my Honda Civic when I was 16, I used to add the 6x9s, they were in individual boxes with a bass cannon, and I used to love to play that one slow song what was it unforgiven yeah unforgiven oh yeah that had some bass that came in toward the end of it I liked it all right anyway what were you talking about this Metallica band the show kicks off at 7 with doors opening at 530 general

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You just came up with something new. What's that? That's a new hack. Just go to sound checks. You don't have to go to the show. You're getting to see them kind of like warm up, get the pipes, tune it in. And then you have to leave. No, you have to have children with you at all times.

You got to have children. If you don't have cute kids, you're not, you're not, they're going to ask you to leave sound check. You know, you got to, you got a fugly daughter and they're like nah beat it buddy go buy a ticket okay you got a cute daughter that's got her hair and little little buns they're like come on in you want to sit down I'm like no we don't want to sit down we're at a rock show we're gonna stand my daughter pulled out a lighter. My son was vaping. What are we talking

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