Tosh Show - My Favorite George Foreman - George Foreman III
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Have you ever taken a full on punch from your dad
back in the day?
Like, yes.
One time when I was like six or seven,
we were fighting and-
Whoa, whoa, whoa, six or seven.
I was hoping you were in the ring at 20.
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Eddie, how you doing?
I'm doing good.
How are you?
Not great.
Oh no.
Yeah.
Yesterday, I was doing laundry.
I was doing laundry.
I was doing laundry.
I was doing laundry.
I was doing laundry.
I was doing laundry. I was doing laundry. I was doing laundry. I was doing doing? I'm doing good. How are you? Not great. Oh, no. Yeah
Yesterday I was doing laundry for my daughter and
She may have she probably has about 10 pair of socks not too many. That's not a ridiculous amount
I don't think I could find a single matching pair and the problem is her socks are so tiny
Because she's so young,
that they go inside the crack in the machine. And then you feel like they
weren't cleaned, so I just throw them back in the middle. Anyway, that's not the point.
So the point was I was like, oh, I'm just gonna order new socks. Now where do I go to get socks
for my daughter? I go to the gap, babygap.com, and I see the socks, and then I look at the title.
Now, I'm gonna put this up on the screen. Look at this title, Eddie.
Yeah.
That's called toddler lettuce trim sock. You have any problem with that?
That doesn't, yeah, it doesn't read right.
You're telling me that nobody over at Baby Gap knows what the term lettuce trim is.
Either that's a disgruntled employee, like, ha, ha, ha, this'll be funny, a little Easter
egg for people.
I'll name these toddler socks after a woman's disgusting beefy vagina that needs to get cleaned up.
Or they didn't know.
I thought it was common knowledge.
I thought everyone on this planet knows what a lettuce trim is.
Does everyone here know what a lettuce trim is?
I do.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
So everyone in this, in this room knows what a lettuce trim in.
Nobody over at Baby Gap knows what a lettuce trim is.
And then I was like, oh, well, should I get my son
this cute scarf called the Rusty Trombone?
Well.
Now that I made up.
Anyway, my daughter's got mismatched socks on
currently. You know, this show needs Eddie. What? To take us to the next level, an
intern. Oh, yeah. I was told that we received our first intern submission that
someone took the initiative to write to us on the contact page of my website.
Go ahead, Eddie, tell me what they said.
Hey guys, I love the pod.
I'd like to intern that I mentioned for free.
I'm a University of Minnesota soon-to-be graduate
and will do anything for the show besides BJs.
Let me know, Lucas.
Ah, you see how he put that in right at the very end?
Yeah.
I'll do anything for the show and then accept
Felatio. Well, that's that's I don't even think you need to put that in there. No
But I mean, I it's probably better to have it in print
Like I said, I wasn't going to and you're like, are you sure? I have the email still
You're like, are you sure? He's like, I have the email still.
All right, well, y'all smarted us, Lucas.
As much as I appreciate him reaching out to us,
I think it would be short-sighted of the show
to just give it to him.
I think we should open this up, you know,
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Feel free to send us any submissions
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Oh, if you're a smoke show, good chance.
We'll take your application very seriously.
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All right, let's get to today's guest.
I'm very excited about this guy.
He's a friend of mine, our children, our friends.
That's very important to me because when we have play dates, I get excited to see him.
I enjoy him and our kids play well together and I need that to continue.
I need to stay in his family's good graces so that his daughter will always protect my
son from any bullies.
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My guest today, the undisputed heavyweight champion of this room, please welcome the one and only George Foreman, the third.
Let's get ready to podcast.
I'm going to start off with some simple stuff for you.
Now I understand that you have 22 brothers and 14 moms.
Supposedly.
Is there a chance that your dad is Mormon?
Close, close.
We kind of grew up in a cult.
I think Mormons remind me of a cult.
Yep, they do and they are.
All right, no, no, you don't, you don't,
you have any brothers you have?
I have five brothers and they had five sisters.
Do you think your dad forgot
that he already had named his other kids George
because of the dangers of boxing?
If you ask him, he always says, like, if you get hit by Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Evander
Holyfield, see how many names you'll remember.
So he was preparing for memory loss.
Fair enough.
What was it like growing up on both sides of the tracks?
It was interesting.
It was interesting.
So my mom and my dad, they got divorced when I was young around two, but you know, always
wanted, my mom wanted my dad to be in my life.
We moved to South Carolina for a little bit and we moved back when I was six.
Your mom wasn't rich.
No.
At all.
No.
And your dad obviously was extremely rich.
Yes.
Yes.
Right around then he started getting rich again.
He actually was like fully bankrupt right around 86-ish and then went back to boxing
and by like 91 once again he was back to making a lot of money.
But yeah, my dad would pick me up for church four times a week and so I would live.
Whoa, why four?
That's too many times for church.
No, not to him.
She has Sundays.
No, no, Wednesday night, Saturday night, Sunday morning, Sunday night.
Oh, I forgot about Sunday night.
Yeah, we used to have to do Sunday night, too.
Yeah, you know about that.
But yeah, like that was, like I didn't wear Jordans and all that.
But then I'd go to my dad's house and you know, you'd have for like 20 to 30 cars.
We can't count them, 20 to 30 dogs.
But eventually when I was like 11, my dad said, enough of this, I'm sending you to boarding
school so you can live like us, which I appreciate it.
But my mom, she gave me other qualities, which were great.
I mean, that's a weird back and forth.
It is like one week, we'd hop in a private jet, like go here, there, come back, hop
off the jet, and I'd go back and like, you know, hope the power was on, you know?
Did you always like say, mom, I love you so much, but can I have, spend Christmas at dad's? Ha ha ha ha ha ha lot there. Yeah, I'm never gonna say that. Just so we're all clear.
You can, but this is his story. No, I'm not. No, well, you know, as we all know, that was
a derogatory term. But my dad had a different father than the rest of his brothers and sisters and
They knew but he didn't know his mom knew and they kept it a secret
And so my dad's from a little town in Marshall, Texas
Uh-huh and he grew up on his he was born like on a sharecropping farm basically his mother and father were sharecroppers
which is code for slaves and
long story short
She my grandma had an affair with a guy about your height,
about your complexion from Tech Sarcana and he worked on the railroad. He had a good job and
they had George. So my grandfather was, you know, about the color of this mug right here.
And so my, sorry, my JD Foreman, who should have been my grandfather, they were both very dark.
And when my dad came out,
he was really light-complexed like you.
And so typically with dark-skinned people,
when the baby comes out around the edges of the ear,
are dark, and they looked at the baby and they were like,
we don't see that.
So they waited a few weeks,
and the baby was still light-complexed.
And so they started gossiping around the town,
and she was so embarrassed,
and he was so embarrassed.
She got out of there.
And then all of a sudden years went by, my brother kept getting taller.
I mean, my father kept getting taller and taller than his brothers and sisters and he
never got dark.
And so they all knew it.
They didn't tell him till he was 27.
So as a youngster, they teased him a lot and they called him all types of names.
Monkey was, it was kind of a term they used to tease,
and at first it was hurtful, but it became his name.
So much said, in the streets, he was known as Monkey.
So when he was my aunt,
was like, we can't have two monkeys in this household.
So I'm gonna call him Monk.
And I'm gonna call your dad Monkey.
When I was born, he was like, all right,
I'm gonna name him George III,
but I'm also gonna give him my name, Monk.
Monkey,
and then my short name, so here we are.
Okay.
So you can call me Monk.
I'm not, I'm never, guess what?
I dare you.
Never calling you Monk.
Calling you George forever.
So this is how we know what our children play together a lot.
And one time I was at a playground and your wife,
by the way, your wife, a wonderful person, always late, okay?
I don't have a question for this,
I just want to get that on the air.
Just always late, she has no concept,
zero concept of time.
Holy cow.
For the record, George's wife, Sarah, is white.
And when I was listening to this back,
I realized that I didn't bring that up.
And then when implying that she's always late, I'm like, oh no, that sounds like I'm perpetuating
a racist stereotype about black people, which I wasn't.
And I see color, you know, and even though technically white is the absence of color.
But I wasn't implying that.
So now I want you to know that she was white and that was why I was comfortable saying that
or I would be comfortable saying it,
now had she been Cuban, that's a different thing,
because I lived in Miami for a bit,
and Cuban time is something that we always say,
implying that Cubans are always
a half hour to an hour late,
but I assume that's also racist,
so maybe I shouldn't bring that.
The real thing about his wife, to be honest with you,
forget the fact that she's always late,
she swears like a sailor.
She was talking to this other parent, this guy,
and I was not in the conversation.
I happened to just be kind of over here
and as I was walking by, and he goes,
oh, which daughter is yours?
And I walked by right at that moment and I go,
oh, the one that looks like George Foreman.
And I kept walking and he goes, oh, is she black?
And then she, you know, because she's great
at kind of awkward conversations was like, well, yes,
yes she is.
And it was just, oh, it was great.
It was the greatest moment.
It was funny though.
I heard there was a moment where he was looking around
trying to figure it out, you know?
Oh, he had no idea what it was.
He was so mortified that he said,
well, what is she, black?
I was like, oh, this is good.
I just made an awkward conversation.
We also became friends.
Your daughter is very strong.
Physically, she's tall, like gonna be an athlete.
I'm gonna tell you a story about your daughter
that you might not know.
She made my son cry.
Uh-oh.
Yeah, but you, I don't want you,
it's not your, your instinct is wrong of why she did.
She was talking to him and she was like,
you know, my dad is stronger than your dad.
And I told my son, that's true. I go, he's a lot stronger than me. It's okay.
And he got so upset and he was crying. And I go, it's okay. I'm not a, you don't have
a strong dad. Hold on. But then I said, but I can dive better than her dad.
True. And because you came, you were in Tahoe once we were jumping off some some rocks, some cliffs.
And I watched you dive and it was poor.
It wasn't great.
It was a cannonball.
And I say, say, you know what, that's actually a better trait than being stronger.
If you're going to watch the Olympics, what event are you going to watch?
Are you going to watch a lifting competition?
No, it barely gets covered.
But diving, that's NBC, that's prime time diving.
So I was telling my son that diving is actually,
that's a better trait.
You're a badass in the water, you are.
By the way, I will take your daughter,
has swim class at my house once a week
and literally last week I watched her do two full laps,
long ways, just killed it.
Now, she used to not even wanna get her face wet
or anything like that.
And this is one of the moments in my life
that I think I'm the most,
top three proudest moments.
Your daughter couldn't swim at the time
and hated being in the water.
And I got her in the water and took her wake surfing
with you on the back of the boat,
just like waiting to murder me
if something went wrong.
Wow!
I've never done anything with myself like that,
with my daughter like that before,
and I will never do anything like that with my daughter after, just with you. Because I was sitting there anything with myself like that, with my daughter like that before, and I will never do anything like that
with my daughter after, just with you.
Because I was sitting there and I was looking at it,
and my wife was like, what do you think?
And I was like, you know what?
Sure, because number one, I know you.
And I was like, he would die if anything happened.
Number two, I was like, this would be a pretty good lawsuit.
Like I could just see this.
I've never sued anybody, but I've been sued,
so I know what a good lawsuit is. And I was like, this one will be awesome.
In hindsight, I was like, I was like,
that was really, really, really brave of me.
Your dad was obviously a strict father.
Yes.
So I mean, some of that is filtered onto you.
You've got some conservative roots for sure.
Now, one of the other fathers at pickup,
I've heard this through the grapevine,
but it's such a good story that it makes me laugh.
He asked if you would be interested,
because he's a producer and starring in some gay porn.
And I was like, this is the greatest thing I'd ever heard.
I laughed so hard. I was like, this little the greatest thing I'd ever heard. I laughed so hard.
I was like, this little guy went up to George
and asked him, hey, would you be in,
totally professional,
not giving you drinks or anything like that.
Just, now, what went through your brain?
Were you like, oh, we gotta leave?
We can't live in a place like this
where I'm being asked this at school pickup?
I was like, number one,
where do you get the nerve to ask me like that?
And then he followed up and I said,
I don't know if I could do that.
And he was like, well, you're never making it in Hollywood.
If you don't, the funniest thing about that guy,
by the way, was that he was like,
you know, like going on and on about how he's like,
movie producer and so on and so forth.
And I met him a couple of times.
And then finally like pulled me to the side
and he was like, I made my money in porn.
Cause he had all these stories about like
how he could live in Malibu.
You know, everybody like has their story,
which is fascinating, but he was hiding that one.
Then he said, I'd like to cast you in.
So when does the movie come out?
I didn't know this for a long time. Uh, you used to date, uh, Kim Kardashian.
I forgot.
How'd you know that?
Does Sarah tell you that?
I don't disclose my sources.
I don't, I don't have no idea.
That's true.
Was this pre-rej post-rej?
Oh, in the midst of the breakup and.
Oh, wow.
All right. So I'll just go through facts.
By the way, I don't want,
I'm not one of these people that wants to hear another man
kiss and tell, I think that's tacky.
But if you want to talk about eating ass, I'm all ears.
It's actually a pretty funny story.
So there's no like really kiss or tell
because I was like, I actually like really liked her.
She's like super.
Well sure, I would really like her too. Super polite.
There was nothing on the internet about her.
Like she was a stylist and would manage like wardrobe for people.
She was working for Paris Hilton.
And I was just like the perfect gentleman.
And I was like, I want to meet your family.
I want to meet Bruce at the time.
Now it's Caitlyn.
Both are great.
Still her dad.
Yep.
And I want to meet your mom, met her sisters.
They were small at the time.
And I remember like taking Kylie and the other one
and just being like, can you please get them off me?
I didn't know they were going to be big stars.
I would have been.
Right, you would have left them on you.
I would have been much nicer.
They're just bad kids at the time.
And I was just like, always like respectful.
And this went on for for five or six months.
And finally, she texts me one day,
and she goes, are you a virgin?
Because I was being such a gentleman.
And of course, I was like, no, I was like,
I'm just, this is how you're supposed to treat women.
And then shortly thereafter, about a month later,
the news hit.
And of course, I've been telling my brothers and my best friends
About like I'm dating this girl. She's cool
like I think this could be the one of the ones, you know, whatever like she's special and
The news comes out and they're all texting me like ha ha and they're sending me videos and of course like I went through that
Which is a tough thing to go through, though.
No, not even whatever.
I mean, you were smacked out in the middle of it.
Holy cow.
But I made it my business to double down on our friendship,
right?
Because at that point, I think we had a week or right
before that we kind of like broken up.
It was my fault.
Because I was being a little bit of a punk.
Long story short, I was like, you know what at a time where like everybody's back in a way
We're gonna have a real friendship. We're sure once you once you saw how good it was
No, I thought it was unfair like really I mean
It was unfair because it's like it was her boyfriend. Mm-hmm. That was beautiful
I had no issue with it. She's got some hustle. They're doing the same thing everybody does at home except for you and her
Everybody just got to see like can you imagine if anybody had a camera on what we do at home?
Oh, man, it'd be the worst two and a half minute video ever. I thought it was just unfair
So I'm glad she played it the way right she did. Do you think about how much better, I mean different your life would be if you would
have married Kim Kardashian?
I didn't mean to say better.
No, I mean, unfortunately, I tell you, I'm dyslexic like that.
I don't really think like that.
I always think maybe, you know, those are the, we had different journeys and it is what
it is.
She's now two doors down for me though, which is weird.
Yeah, you're real good friends with her mom, Chris.
That's great and weird.
Once again, always wanted to get to know a lady's parents.
Cause I feel like when you marry them,
you're marrying their parents.
Oh, I, you know what?
I wish I would have talked to you before I got married.
My wife would get very paranoid. Or I would add to it. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I the way, I've also seen your comically silly cereal bowl that you like to eat cereal out of something, which is...
Love cereal, man. That's my vice.
I mean, by the way, those boxes have gotten so much like...
The bags in are so small.
Are you eating like...
A bag at a time.
A whole box of cereal.
Easy. Easy.
I'll crush it with that.
That's really funny. What's yours?
My biggest vice?
No, no. No. really funny. What's yours? My biggest vice? No, no.
No.
Heroin.
Heroin.
Heroin.
It's always been my vice.
I love food, but then I get sick.
I get sick and my stomach just flushes everything out.
Oh, you might need to, you might have a gluten allergy.
Yeah, and I just, I don't care enough to like figure it out.
I'd rather just go sit on the toilet for 45 minutes.
Now, as a black man, did you enjoy today
driving from your home in Calabasas
to come here to work with three white guys
in Baldwin Hills?
It is interesting.
I find culture very interesting.
I'll tell you two things, what I did find fascinating.
I've never been to Baldwin Hills
and I've never been to a Starbucks where all the employees are black, all the people online are
black. And number two, I've never been to a Starbucks that moved so quickly. Like they were
churning in there. Like it was so well run. But number two, like I was raised not to see race.
So I actually don't see race. It might be a disorder or something like that. I was in my
household, we were raised, we couldn't use the word white or black. Like you might as well have said the F word,
you'd be better off versus calling someone white, black,
or even like Mexican, you couldn't say that yet,
to say they're from Mexico.
Cause my dad didn't believe in that.
I have all these moments all the time where I'm like,
I forget I'm the only black person in the room.
So you're telling me if you described me,
you wouldn't say, when would you say white?
I would never say it.
You would never bring it up in describing me. No, no, I'll talk about who you are, where you wouldn't say, when would you say white? I would never say it. You would never bring it up in describing me.
No, no, I'll talk about who you are,
where you're from.
Right, but I'm saying if you're like,
what's he look like?
I would say you look like somebody who looks like you.
I'd be like, he's about the same-
You're a grandpa?
He's the-
I would say, I would reference someone and be like,
oh, he's the same complexion if it mattered.
Well, hey, I'll tell you when you saw color
as a former neighbor of mine.
First of all, for people who don't know,
you stopped boxing a decade ago.
Yeah, that's right.
So you're gonna fight again,
but you started training and then you had a post
on Nextdoor app.
Oh yeah.
Hey guys, I'm training for a fight or I'm training.
I'm gonna be jogging at night.
So if you see a huge black man running through Malibu,
don't call the police or don't shoot me.
And I'm paraphrasing.
I'm paraphrasing.
A direct quote.
But no, I don't know if I have a screenshot of it.
But that's real.
You knew that you didn't have to do that, but you're like, you know what?
I'm going to do this because unfortunately a lot of other people do see color.
Which I'm fully aware of.
Okay.
So when we moved to Cali, we moved out here in Malibu and I said, you know what?
Let's go to the best place.
We found this little gated neighborhood and because I want safety just from everything, right?
Sure.
Just from everybody.
You have to be careful, especially in LA.
And I was getting ready to get in shape
and start running again, because I do want to fight.
And I started running around, I was terrified
and I actually never get scared.
I like don't register fear that well either.
I think that's a form of disorder.
It's also from just being strong.
So I looked at my wife, I came back because I like my short, my run was only 20 minutes.
She's like, why'd you only run so long?
I said, you know what?
I realized I don't want to, I got to come back home to Hannah.
And no matter what I think, like if someone shoots me like, you just see it on the news,
maybe I'll watch too much news.
But that's, that's why I put it out there.
I did not say a black guy, but my profile clearly shows them the same color as my grandma.
Well, I just was like, you know, who's not having to put that post up?
A white guy.
So I felt, I felt like that's, oh, look at that.
That's horrible that you have to, but it's all good, man.
Let me tell you my thoughts on boxing first, because I got to be honest with you.
I, I don't like boxing.
Like I don't like the UFC.
And here's why.
I can't watch people fighting.
It makes me sick to my stomach a little bit.
And I've always been like that.
Whenever like a fight broke out in school
and everybody crowded around,
I was the kid that was like, oh no, oh, this is bad.
This is bad.
Let's stop them.
Fighting's always made me feel really weird.
It's boxing, if you train the boxing,
you realize like when it's a sport
and you're trained to see the punches coming,
they don't hurt that bad.
Number one, the headshots don't really hurt,
just the body shots that hurt.
And you'll probably look at boxing different
once you box with me, right?
I'm almost 50, there's no way I'm getting punched.
My dad was fighting when he was 50?
Yeah, but he fought when he was 22, so that's a little different.
It's not even a mental thing. I physically feel ill watching people fight.
I feel like that during UFC though, because in boxing it's a gentlemen's sport, so to speak.
And people do foul sometime, but you're supposed supposed to once a guy can't fight anymore.
You're supposed to back off and let the referee do his job. In MMA and I have full respect for
UFC and Dana White and I love what they've accomplished but you hit a guy, he goes down,
he's actually knocked unconscious but kind of moving still. You can be out on your feet and
still be lucid and then you go down and you start banging his head until the ref stops it. I think
that's inappropriate.
I actually can't watch UFC.
I actually get sick the same way and I'm a fighter.
Here's another thing I don't understand about boxing.
Always having to hate your opponent, whether it's the pre-fight stuff where I always
thought, I've thought this for a long time.
Wouldn't it be funny if the guy was like, ah, I love this guy.
He's great.
I wish him the best I'm you know, I'm gonna I'm because you know, I bring it to basketball
Like Michael Jordan like he always had a hate his opponent
He could you know, but now generations like LeBron like they can go out to dinner and they can play basketball the night
It's not like he's not gonna try to kill him on the court
Yeah, you know the two don't have to go hand in hand is what I'm saying.
You don't have to hate somebody to compete against them.
I think that there's two reasons.
Number one, boxing comes from the same place WWF comes from Madison Square Garden.
And then there was the same promoters they would work together and promote boxing the
same way they did wrestling.
It's you have Pee Wee Herman versus King Kong and Pee Wee Herman wins.
Oh my God, we got to see a rematch, right?
And so that's how boxing was promoted
and eventually it became more about the sport
and the competition and there aren't that great,
but there's a direct line between P.T. Barnum and Don King,
like mentor, friend and so on and so forth.
And so we knew we had to hype these fights up,
otherwise no one cares.
And then what happens now though is everybody knows
we gotta talk up the fight because otherwise it's boring and there's no story.
Every boxer knows the fight starts when you sign the contract, right?
Because you got to get the psychological advantage.
But what happens is the both fighters know, hey, we got to talk it up.
And at some point someone goes too far and now it becomes a real fight.
And you also are trying to win the exchange.
So I think that that's what happens.
And it helps.
I mean, all of that makes sense.
It's a roast battle.
How were you 16 and 0 in your career?
Yeah.
And, and then you retired.
Yeah.
Who does that?
Well, two things.
So when I was training, it's a, I don't know if it's a myth, but when you're training,
you can't, you have to be celibate.
You don't.
That's another thing that's probably made up.
I don't.
Whoever made, whoever came up with that was.
Why take a chance?
So that was my attitude.
So for like five years
I'm celibate, you know, you kind of like excited not to have to be like that
Yeah, I'll put it that way. What if you weren't and then all of a sudden had the best fight of your life?
Would you like oh
That's way better. I don't know man. I'm not willing to take that chance
I'm not at least you got it same for at least six eight weeks and I was fighting every six eight weeks
I would masturbate on the way to the ring.
See what happens.
I'd love to fight you.
You know, wait, boxers always have wrappers
bringing them to the ring a lot of times.
I see that on big fights.
I think it'd be cool if you had like a comic,
and I'm just doing material on the way to the ring.
You ever notice?
I think it would be a better fit than rapping.
You know the worst time I ever saw you get hit?
It's not boxing.
It was when you walked into a giant umbrella
at that restaurant.
Do you remember you turned and hit that thing right in your head?
I was like, oh, that hurts.
That was actually worse than I've ever been punched before.
Seriously, man. I can take a punch, oh, that hurts. That that was actually worse than I've ever been punched before. Seriously. Seriously, man.
I can take a punch, but that that that was horrible.
I want to get back to the question that I asked you, which is you were 16 and
0 and then you just walked away.
But were you a champion at 16 and 0?
Did you ever get?
Well, what level do you get to at 16 and 0?
Boxing is a wild, wild best of sports.
There's no proper league.
There's like four belts, which are sanctioning bodies.
Then there's separate promoters, separate networks. It's not concentrated. The power and the control like UFC, There's no proper league. There's like four belts, right? Which are sanctioning bodies, then there's separate promoters separate networks
It's not concentrated the power and the control like UFC, which is why the sport struggles
So for me, I was I didn't have an amateur career
I had 16 fights just fighting honestly whoever they would put in front of me to get
experience in front of crowds to get used to that and also to like when you fight only 20% of what you can do makes it to
The ring and then as you get more experience 80% of what you can do makes it to the ring and then as you get more experience
80% of what you can do in the gym makes you to the ring so it was about preparation
But honestly at that it was you know becoming the most popular fighter
Proving that I can compete and then it was about having a fighting for the heavyweight title and that's still my goal to this day
I only put it down because I didn't want to make my living off a boxing because I was too scared to like, if I don't get a fight, I can't pay my bills.
And so I started a gym to make money between fights.
How many gyms do you have now?
Right now I have four locations.
One is mine in Calabasas,
the other are franchises in Canada.
Well, let's talk about your employees.
No.
You're not afraid to look at a resume and go,
oh, it says here you were in prison for a while?
No. I owe a lot of it to my dad.
Number one, my dad was a criminal.
He was thrown in jail multiple times before 16.
Anything horrible?
Just beating up people, beating up his friends, stuff like that.
He was an angry guy, but he literally
used to charge attacks to people to cross streets.
Like, you can't cross the street unless you pay George.
He's going to underdue some great things.
I wish that's what he was still doing. Well remember
to make money just telling people you want to cross the street they're like the
crosswalk signals on he's like no. I actually met a guy he's like I always
looked up to your dad and I was like why cuz I was taking the boxing and the
curls and he said man I already used to charge a tax for people to walk to cross
the street and he's like that blew my mind and this is like a real like dude
You know what I mean like a serious dude if you know what I mean
You know, sorry my point on that was I grew up. I never beat anybody up in school
I was beat up once and I beat you up
I was first grade. I just moved back to be closer to my father and a group of kids called me the N word and of course
I had something to say about that. Uh-huh and I tried to like fight and they grabbed my hands pull
You know pull me back and beat me up. Right. Okay. So you got jumped. That's different. I got jumped
No, no, no, but no kid in first grades one-on-one beating you up
No, no, no, but I got I got jumped and like held down and beat up And so I told my dad about it and whatever and he was like look
He said if you're gonna fight in school, you need to be prepared be prepared to come home and fight me
Okay, you're not gonna fight in school
And so I said you know what I back down from every fight or bluff my way out of it because I was literally more afraid of
What would happen to me when I yeah at home is the heavyweight champ at school is just a little prick
so
so Yeah, at home's the heavyweight champ. At school's just a little prick. So, so, so when my neighbor comes up to me with a pistol
or someone says I've been in jail for 17 years,
I just see a human.
I'm not afraid of them.
I'm more afraid of my dad.
You could take your dad right now.
I don't know.
He still punches pretty hard.
That'd be the fight.
Let's get that on the books.
Hey, what is the deal when your first few fights coming up?
The people are you just picking somebody to punch in the head?
How does it work?
Yeah, I mean, look, you know, the people, some people call them bums or whatever, but I think,
look, it's, it's, it's a feat to walk in the ring and take your shirt off and fight in front
of three to 6,000 or 20,000 people.
But it's literally everybody does it because it's how you get sharp and it's how you get
yourself in front of fans.
Like, I don't know if you like practice material or you use this.
Yes, of course I do.
It's like that.
Um, and then when you're like, yo, I got this down, then it's time to,
to put it all in the line.
But every time you walk in the ring, you're risking your entire career.
You can get knocked out.
So you only take the big risk when there's a big paycheck.
That's, but that's not considered fixed though, right?
No, no, no, no, no, that, that, that stopped in like maybe the 60s, 70s.
What a fixed fight?
Yeah, and they wouldn't so much. I mean, they would remember the mob control boxing until 70s,
but remember they also controlled gambling. So, there were things like, hey, there's this champion
and this guy who everybody thinks can beat the champion. Let's have this fight. And they would
ask the champion, hey, don't fight too hard, make a competitive,
you're gonna lose this one.
So they can have a rubber match
and have the second and third.
It's a controversial loss.
Everybody wants to see the next fight,
so it's even bigger.
And then you're gonna win the second fight.
Well, now everybody wants to see the tiebreaker.
And then the tiebreaker is a fair fight.
And people kind of just knew that.
And those are the types of things they would do
to make great fights,
but also make money on the gambling side.
You gamble ever?
I do slot machines.
I don't know how to gamble.
I'm like, not that smart.
I would love to gamble with you, though.
I enjoy gambling.
What's your favorite?
What's your favorite boxing movie?
Raging Bull.
If you know boxing and you're from the culture,
that they like they have it down to a T because when you become great
and you're fighting, you get really paranoid.
And I don't know if you've seen it,
but there's a scene where he accuses brother
of sleeping with his wife.
That was boxed.
That's the life of a prize fighter.
Mine's coming to America.
What's your favorite part?
Well, just the boxing barber shop.
Joe Lewis.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was classic.
Eddie Murphy's nuts.
By the way, I know this because you were at my house last night.
You don't listen to this show.
You haven't watched this show every episode because I appreciate people taking time out,
but I also hate having stuff at my house.
I give them something from my house
that I don't want anymore and I say,
here you take this and that's your gift
for being on the show.
So today, this is what I got you George
for being on the show.
Hold on, let me grab it.
I want your house, can you give me that?
Can I?
No.
Bro.
Bro.
Bro.
Bro. You actually brought this. I got you my bounce house.
Oh my, are you serious?
Yeah, but to be careful it's heavy.
Oh, you can handle anything.
So last night the kids are playing in the bounce house
and he's like, you own your own bounce house?
I'm like, yeah, I own my own bounce house.
So now I'm giving it to you so that you and your daughter,
oh, it's a good ring for her
Uh, and oh my god on rainy days this thing is it's it fits inside you move some furniture
I can't fit this in my house, but no you'll find a place for it. It'll be great
You ever taken off you ever taken a full-on punch from your dad back in the day? Like, oh, yes.
One time when I was like six or seven, we were fighting and-
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Six or seven.
I was hoping you were in the ring at 20.
All right, never mind.
He really didn't punch me.
He like snapped the punch right at, you know, he could pull the punch back before he hit
you.
And that was one that obviously that didn't hurt.
We were play fighting.
But then when I became a boxer, my dad was my trainer
and my manager for six years.
One day he was like, hey, I gotta,
if I'm gonna train you, I got it.
I only know what type of fighter you are
if I get in the ring with you.
So we got in the ring together for the whole week
and he wouldn't wrap my hands.
He wouldn't talk to me.
He would go in the corner and be like,
you know, get over there.
Like you're just another fighter now.
And for the whole week, he was about 63 years old.
We sparred every single day.
And I was just running like Ali, literally.
And finally he was like, I'm gonna get a hold of you.
Like the fourth day he reached over and leaned to the left
and he was about to hit me so hard on my liver.
I remember it.
And he pulled back and he kind of looked at me like,
don't get ahead of yourself.
Like I can still whip you
So that that happened. Are you the one person that doesn't love Muhammad Ali because he beat up your dad? I
Mean there's two parts of that I have a lot
Muhammad Ali was a great fighter. I respect him and so on and so forth
But the part like had he not beat my, neither one of them would be legends in my
opinion.
I think where I was, the only thing I would ever hold against him is that he didn't give
him a rematch.
But he was, Ali, he was washed up at the time, so to speak.
He was on his way out.
He fought him.
Everybody convinced my dad to fight Ali because that was what you did back then was traditional.
If there was a big champ, you give him one more payday so he can retire, right?
And then you absorb his fan base.
And so my dad was like, all right, just pay me.
I'll fight him.
And the only guys to beat Ali at that point were Joe Frazier, who my dad beaten two rounds.
I love boxing.
So bear with me.
No, Kenny Norton broke his jaw.
My dad beat him inside two rounds.
And then Ali is 34 at the time, which is old and boxing. And so they're like, George is going to kill him. And so once again, he was like, if I beat him inside two rounds and then Ali's 34 at the time which is old and boxing
And so they're like George is gonna kill him and so once again, he was like if I beat him
I'm not gonna get credit if I heard him that people are gonna hate me
But this is five million dollars. It's the biggest payday ever in sports history
so he did it and
But then Ali beat him and everybody said oh my god this guy came it's like Superman
He was in an impossible situation and one, now he's the greatest of all time.
So I think that's really cool.
And then 20 years later, my dad was able to get his title
after losing it, and now he became great
because he's 46 years old, redeeming himself.
So I think it worked out for both of them.
That's the way it was supposed to happen.
All right, now I'm gonna get into the grill
because this is gonna make me laugh.
It wasn't like, this was a slam dunk.
It wasn't like, oh, your dad was just such a business genius.
It was like, they brought him this and he was like,
ah, whatever.
And then he asked for 16 grills.
All true.
So, we're bankrupt.
My dad fights 20 times in like three years.
He's bankrupt because he spends.
He spends, number one, he gives.
Can't say no to people.
And also, the guy who manages his money stole it
This is when he don't hire felons
For certain positions
Why his white collar crimes are way worse, but agreed
He's making you made 13 million dollars to fight Holy fail then it was 10 million 10 million
So the commercials he would get paid for six half hour day six hour shoot
250,000, 300.
This is like, we're thrilled to make this type of money.
He doesn't have to get hit.
And so that's what he's used to.
So a friend of his had a friend who was with him in college and said, hey, we have this
grill that my friend is marketing.
It's been taken off the shelves before.
We can't really get it going, but how about you promote it?
He was like, fine, just pay me about $200 to $400,000
and I'll be there for six hours.
They're like, no.
Then they said, well, let's form a joint venture.
We'll provide the operations,
you provide your time and your name
and you'll own 20% of it, 22% of it, 23.
No, no, no, no.
What was his magic number?
What was his magic number?
16 grills.
16 grills.
So finally the offer.
And what percentage?
The offer got up to 45% of a joint venture.
And after all the expenses were paid,
he'd keep the profit 45% of the profit.
And 16 free grills, because he liked them.
Well, my mom had been cooking grilled cheese for us.
There's so many of us in the steaks.
And the Teflon rubbed off.
And so he said, I want 16 grills,
which is enough for the Teflon to rub off
and still have one enough for my homes
and enough for my mother.
Okay. And he said, I'll give you a half day
shoot. And that got the deal done. And how many years went by before it
exploded? So that the deal was signed in 93. At the end of 94, he by a fluke got a
heavyweight title shot and won. And now he's in the cover of Sports Illustrated,
athlete of the year. And they're like, wow, we got this guy for cheap.
It still wasn't doing good.
So they kept promoting it, promoting it.
And they said, George, we want to tweak it and take the videos of you boxing and
show videos at home with your kids cooking, actually using it.
And then they just put everything behind it.
And by 1997, then things started to change.
He had his last fight.
He was 49, lost a decision.
They come in and give his manager came and gave him a check,
his attorney, for a million dollars,
and that was just one month of his 45%.
And at that point, he was like, I think I can retire.
So now he's, now he got a million a month.
What's the most, he was making like five million a month.
Five million dollars a month.
Just off the grill.
And then they got fed up.
They're like, we can't keep paying you this much money.
So they're like, how much just to own your name
on this grill forever and you walk away
and they're like, 128 million, what was the number?
There was a publicly traded company
so they had to report at some point and say like,
why is all this money going out the door?
So they offered them 137 million.
20 of it was stock, and the stock went up
when they did the deal,
because now the company's gonna be more profitable.
So it ended up being about 170-ish million.
I know for a fact that you have a Weber.
Yes, I have a Weber.
Come on, man.
Come on.
Do you think in hindsight,
if your dad could have had that grill money,
do you think he would have not fought
that final comeback run?
Yes, he didn't want to fight.
Even though he became the heavyweight champion again?
Look, my dad, he said if he had a college degree he would have been a teacher.
He was a preacher and he's like, this is all I know how to do.
And he did love boxing, but no, he wouldn't, no, no, no way.
I wonder if people ever went to his church and went, hey, isn't that the guy that used
to charge us to walk across the street?
I just recently saw, because I look at some blogs of cars,
and said, he just unloaded the most, like 100 cars.
And he still has a lot more.
Of course he does.
And I'm just like going through these cars,
and like, it's like, they're so random and then like and they all
Have like 3,000 miles on them. They're like nothing. He had a beetle with 200 miles on it. Yeah, I can beat oh
Yeah, your dad also has right now over a hundred dogs true or false true that we know of he hides them from my mom
And you guys sell them or he it's a pleasure thing. He'll sell them if like he finds a good home
You know sometimes he'll just give them to people because he cares about the home. He's literally dr. Doolittle. We grew up with crocodiles
Antelope elk, let's see monkeys lemurs cows, of course horses over a hundred horses
Wait, wait, it's you understand why you went bankrupt a couple times
Like you can't have a zoo.
Like, that's not,
zoos are run by the city.
Like, that's,
is your dad getting sweeter as he gets older?
He's a, he's always been a puppy dog.
Right, but he's been tough to the kids.
He was just strict, you know?
Right, well strict and puppy dogs are far apart.
Yeah, I think, yeah, he's definitely way more lenient.
And he's soft, like even his ministries, you know,
when it started, it was like the Bible says
what the Bible says and that's what we're preaching.
And now he, it's the doctrine of love.
He's like, if it's in the book, if it's in the Bible,
but it violates me loving somebody, then I'm not for it.
So he's definitely softening up a little bit.
That's nice to hear.
The first question I ask all my guests,
do you believe in ghosts?
Yes.
Yes, I do.
I can't disprove it.
And I had once incident in the Langham Hotel
where there was a butler.
We, our room came with a butler
and my dad and my mom were in the next room
and they were asleep.
And I was looking at the door.
I'm eating my room service
and the door just closes and I run to the door. And long story short, I was looking at the door. I'm eating my room service Mm-hmm, and the door just closes and I run to the door and long story short. I won't explain the context
I'm sure it was a ghost, but that's it that that's from that moment
July will go to real because of this moment of one door that swung closed or opened
Which was it open or closed? It was slightly open. It was slightly opened and it closed
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that meant just a draft something came through.
It was a ghost, man.
Because...
No, so if you, that hotel, I don't know if it's still called
the Langham, it was an old hospital.
Yeah, old.
That's a key word in this because old stuff,
always things happen.
Do you believe in ghosts?
No.
Of course I don't.
Why not? I don't know because course I don't. Why not?
I don't know because I just don't.
All right.
True or false, you're considering doing that porn.
George?
I gotta feed my family, but hopefully things will never get to that point.
You've got a wonderful family.
You've got a wonderful gym.
And you know, if you want a box, I'm going to obviously I'll root for
you, but I'm probably, I'm probably not going to pay pay per view for it. I'll pirate it
if possible. But thank you for being on the show, George.
Thank you man. I appreciate your time talking to you.
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Well, Carl, that was a delight.
Thank you very much, George.
And I will be calling you George for the rest of my life and nothing else.
Just George.
You know what I admire so much about George is that he has just so much respect and he's proud of his dad.
And that's just kind of neat.
I just, you know, I could learn from that a little bit.
But then again, my dad wasn't the heavyweight champion
of the world, you know?
My dad worked at human resources and it's just not as cool.
It's just harder to be so proud of that.
But I should, he's, because you know his dad is strict,
probably too strict, but whatever.
That's a good thing that they've got going
and I'm glad that George Sr. is in good health.
That's great.
I'm happy that he was on the show.
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Enjoy the animation.
And whatever I think he said, I'll be on.
I try to ask him sometimes, like, what do you think he said right here?
And he's like, I don't know.
And I'm like, ah, he's so mad.
I just make him sit there.
I'm like, well then you can't get up from the table.
Like three hours later, dad, I don't know what I said.
Tell me what the shark ate.
See you next week.
I'm talking the same story, but a different show tonight.
But you're gonna tell me a different version
of the same story?
All right, let's hear it.
Go ahead. What's the same story. All right, let's hear it My head broke someone said my head broke off.
And then somebody came out with a penguin and a baby penguin.
Oh whoa!
She said she was a baby.
I don't like this story at all. It's not good. It doesn't make sense and it's it is really hard to understand.
I don't like it when your stories have voices because your voice is already on the scale of tough to understand and then when you do voices
It's like what are we talking about at this point?
See what I'm saying. I can't understand that.
talking about at this point. See what I'm saying? I can't understand that. Despite the baby, I get a big cool ball.
Okay, you're still doing it.
But don't pop my ball at all.
What's 156 times 28?
The signed or sign.
That's pretty good.
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