Tosh Show - My Favorite Rock Climber - Alex Honnold

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

Daniel straps in for a chat with Alex Honnold, star of the Academy Award-winning documentary Free Solo, about his sleep schedule as a new parent, van life, and whether or not he still eats with a spat...ula.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:39 Climbing ropes are dynamic, so they stretch. So it's like bungee jumping. Any distance you fall is totally safe. Have you ever bungee jumped? I haven't. I have. Oh yeah's like bungee jumping. Any distance you fall is totally safe. Have you ever bungee jumped? I haven't. I have. Oh yeah? You're so brave. No. Tosh Show!
Starting point is 00:01:54 Tosh Show. Tosh Show, Tosh Show. Mahalo! Welcome to another episode of Tosh Show. Should we do a roll call? Sure. All right. Eddie? Eddie? Eddie? He's not here. Where is he? He just had surgery. Eddie's not here today because he had surgery yesterday. Now why did he have surgery? Well, he was doing a little drywall here in the studio because as you know, he's a DIY man. And he's like, no, you guys don't need to pay for this. I can do this drywall.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And he's on a step stool, just a mere one and a half to two feet off the ground. He falls, tears his rotator cuff, has to have surgery. Now he's not with us today. It's embarrassing. You know, not that he fell, but that he didn't delegate the work. There's hungry immigrants out there that would have done that work for, for what? Two or three stray cats.
Starting point is 00:03:05 But no, Eddie, he's got to take food out of their mouths. By the way, and I'm not saying this to be funny or anything, but, uh, but the drywall work that Eddie did is shit. So I'm kind of glad he got hurt. You know, he's lucky I don't replace him. You think, you think it's hard what he does back there? Oh yeah. Chiming in with a A plus zingers every time.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And then, and then the noises that come out of his mouth, by the way, bigger news than Eddie's surgery is that I have new glasses. Ooh. Wow. This, I think this takes the show up a notch. Well, we should check in and make sure Eddie's not dead. What's the phrase that pays? The phrase that pays is hydrocodone.
Starting point is 00:04:04 How was your, how was your surgery, Eddie? Oh man, it was quick. It was good. I think, I think everything went well. I just talked to the doctor. He called to check in and he said there's a big mess in there, but everything wasn't more than he expected. It's all sewn up and I gotta be in a sling for four weeks. A sling for four weeks. A sling for four weeks. Yeah. It's like the sling that's got the big box between you and your body. So it doesn't even, it looks just, it looks extra stupid. You know what you should have done? You should ask the doctor, uh, if it's too late to a transition during the surgery.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Ask him that right before we go in. And, and this, this is a typical procedure that anyone has to go through if they do any drywall? Oh, you know, I didn't ask him that, but I guess if you fall off a ladder, anything can happen. How high do you reckon you fell? I probably was maybe three rungs up on the ladder, about three feet. Three feet. I was on my descent. I was coming down and the ladder kind of kicked out to the side. And I just, I remember my head thinking, oh no. And what's your arm? Did you just land on
Starting point is 00:05:08 your arm? Landed on the shoulder and the arm. A little bit of scraping on the legs and I must have kicked on the ladder. And then I remember the door, somebody knocked on the door. And I was still on the ground kind of like what happened? I couldn't really use the left side because it was still so like just fresh. And I go to the door and it's the property manager. And she's like did something fall? Did something crash? And I was like yeah that was me. I fell off a ladder.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Eddie, I'm gonna have to tighten this up. Okay. Well, I'm glad the surgery went well. Again, this is your fault. Like you shouldn't have volunteered that you can do this work. That's the problem. You gotta just be like, no guys,
Starting point is 00:05:40 we have to pay a professional to do this. I have a problem with that, saying no. Say I know I can do a lot of things, but I don't have to. And sometimes I don't do them well when I do them anyway. So yeah, I just, I mean, there's just no world where you would have said, Hey, I can't do this drywall. And I'm like, you have to do it. Right. Is it your right arm or your left arm?
Starting point is 00:06:02 Left arm, which is good. Good. Do you have any shows coming up that you're going to have to wear a sling? Oh, I'll be in Boise, Idaho. Do you say Boise like that? You don't say Boise? I say Boise, yeah. Are you supposed to say Boise?
Starting point is 00:06:15 Versus? In my head, I think I am. You don't just say Boise? Boise. Now I don't know. Now I'm confused. That could be the painkillers. Ah, well we'll get to the bottom of that.
Starting point is 00:06:24 All right. Well, I guess I'll see you next week in here with a sling. Yeah, I'll be in with a sling. All right. Uh, Ed, have, have a good recovery. I'll see you soon. Okay. Bye bud.
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Starting point is 00:10:03 Please welcome to C-level Mr. Free Solo himself, Alex. Thanks. Thanks for having me. How are you, man? Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. If you would have told me six years ago after I watched your Academy Award winning documentary, that you'd still be alive, I would have taken the under. No, but if anything, if you watched that film,
Starting point is 00:10:22 you see me train for two years to do something. Don't care. Don't care. Do one climb. Don't care. No matter, preparation's okay. No, not when no one's done something. Yeah, but there are plenty of things that nobody's done. Is there?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Yeah, that's the nature of sport. You're always trying to do something that other people can't do. Not me. I just copy people. That's the nature of comedy. I see somebody that does something great and I'm like, oh, I should try that. Yeah, totally. Totally.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Let me start with my first question. Do you believe in ghosts? No. How about Bigfoot? You spent a lot of time in national parks? I've looked extensively. I haven't found him. You grew up in Sacramento.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yep. How'd you get into climbing? Climbing gym. Uh-huh. Just like straight suburbia. I went to the gym and took to it. Well, I have to give you a little background on my climbing.
Starting point is 00:11:03 None. Well, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. One time, one time I was in Orlando, Florida. Yeah, known for its climbing. Yeah. With my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And she says, we should go climbing. There's a rock climbing gym. And I'm like, oh, I've never done that. This would be a fun day. Let's go to this rock climbing gym. Then we're at the rock climbing gym. All of a sudden this like instructor guy comes over and like, hey, Laura, it's great to see you. Gives her a big hug.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And he's an instructor there. That's her ex-boyfriend. And I'm like, what in the fuck did you just set me up for? Now I'm embarrassed. I'm trying to climb for the first time in my life. How'd it go? I didn't enjoy myself the whole time I was angry at her. And that's why it's an ex-girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah. It didn't work out. There are a? Yeah, it didn't work out. There are a lot of reasons it didn't work out, but that one really stuck out. Were you a maniac as a kid on the monkey bars and stuff? Yeah, I did break my arm three times as a kid falling off things. Did you same arm? No, I think two right, one left. They healed fine?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah, I was like, you know, age five and six, doesn't make any difference. Do you ever just train to see how long you can actually hang? No, I've never trained that. What, is there a Guinness Book of World Record for that? I'm sure there must be. Are you in the Guinness Book of World Record for anything? I don't know. Are you in the Guinness Book of World Record?
Starting point is 00:12:14 No, of course I'm not, but I would probably, I don't know, because I've never done anything remarkable, but I certainly, if I did, I would casually pull it out. Look at page 234. He was in the Guinness Book of World Records twice. Oh, I was? Do you know what for? The free solo and the fastest LCAP climb. Oh, yeah. The fastest LCAP climb and free solo. That's pretty good. You're in the Guinness Book of World Record twice. Next to those two big fat guys on the motorcycles. Totally.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Next to like all kinds of race. Yeah, exactly. That's, I mean, the fact that you don't know that just speaks volumes about how different you and I are. No one's ever done the climb you've done. And then the 15 training runs that you did for LCAP, no one's ever done those three solo either. If you just counted up things that have been done in climbing that other people haven't done,
Starting point is 00:13:00 then I have, you know, like dozens. I had a pastor. This stuck with me as a kid. Don't really strike me as a religious fellow. Oh, my father was a pastor. Okay. But then I lived in St. Louis for a spell, and we had a pastor at our church,
Starting point is 00:13:13 and he went rock climbing. This is a horrible story, head to head. Okay, love it, love it, let's see. He was climbing with, I believe his son, this was the church we went to, Presbyterian Church, he was climbing with his son. He fell a bit, he was roped in, hit his head, was concussed, unhooked and just stepped off the cliff and died.
Starting point is 00:13:32 That's a weird story. Yeah. I feel like I might be missing some pieces. You definitely are because you're hearing it from a kid that heard it when he was eight years old. Exactly 30 years later with a little bit of a weird... That was really my first introduction to people that climbed recreational. This is why you're not into climbing.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah, yeah, like traumatic experiences. Really was. Yeah, no, it's terrible. There's something about climbing. Like when I was a kid, you climb and you like, you get up in a, but now if I'm climbing, just, it doesn't set well with me at all. You think it's scary, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:02 Oh yeah. Why? I don't know. Maybe just, you've got... Some of them are out of practice. Mm-hmm. Also, I've always had that thing, and I'm curious if you have,
Starting point is 00:14:11 where you just stand on the edge and then you... You want to wrap falling off? No, you just start saying, jump, just do it. Like the inner voice is telling you, just do it. Well, okay, as somebody who has done probably 20 hours of photo shoots on the edge of cliffs, like, you know, the sun is setting and you just stand there and the photographer is like,
Starting point is 00:14:26 lean over and like stand and like turn. And you know, I've literally done hours of like peering right over the edge of cliffs for various things. And yeah, you definitely spend, you know, half that time being like, what would it be like if I just slipped off this and fell off the cliff? You know, it'd be like, yeah, it's like pondering your immortality.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Do you think that the producers wanted you to die? In free solo? Yep. No, obviously not. I mean, one, Jimmy Chin, the co-director, is a good friend of mine who I've spent months with on different expeditions, and he definitely didn't want me to die. But more so, what would they do with a film? I mean, it would be this horrendous film.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Really? Or it might be the single greatest piece? No, people would be so bummed. If everybody left the theater slightly shell-shocked and like tears in their eyes, it just would not have been the success that it was. I don't know. Well, okay, have you seen the film The Alpinist? Hmm.
Starting point is 00:15:14 So it's another climbing film, also really well done, really well made. The guy dies in the end. And notice that it didn't have quite the same success as Free Solo. That might have been your charisma. I don't think there was any of that. Did you get an Oscar? No, because it's a director and producer. I understand that, but they couldn't be like, listen,
Starting point is 00:15:31 this is clearly your work. Yeah, nobody cared. And even the director, Jimmy and Jai, who are married, so they each got one, but there was no offer to share. That seems like you're a little bit bitter, but that's fair. How often do you have to continue to climb to feel like, oh, I've still got it? A lot. A lot more than a lot of sports, sadly.
Starting point is 00:15:53 It's a hard thing to get up. You can't take three months off? No, you can't even take like four days off. Really? No, I climb like four or five days a week. People say that about comedy, like stand-up. Like you have to get up every night to do stand-up. And I'm like, I'll take a couple months off. But you probably have a good base. Yeah, I got a great base
Starting point is 00:16:09 And there's no there's no fitness requirement. It's like it's skill I mean because a lot like I'm always a slightly envious of a lot of sports like a professional skier or something It's like it's so much of a skill-based. I mean, obviously there's some fitness requirement But it's not like the main thing climbing is just not like that climbing It's like if you're not doing it all the time, you kind of suck. What about as you're aging? Where's the cutoff? I think in general, climbing has more longevity
Starting point is 00:16:29 than most sports because it's relatively low impact, barring some kind of actual accident. Have you ever free soloed anything that you hadn't previously climbed with ropes? I've soloed a bunch of things. So that's called onsite soloing or onsiting in climbing. And yeah, I've done that a bit. I mean, generally you do that more within your grade range.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Like in Morocco, I onsite soloed a 1500 foot relatively hard wall. It was like a total experience. In general with stuff like that, you're just much more likely to down climb or bail if you're not feeling it. Down climb. Is that a cool word to say?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Totally normal. I like it. Yeah, you down climb all kinds of stuff. You just down climb? Down climbing, that's really hard, huh? You know, depending on the style of climbing, it can be easier because it's gravity assisted. You know, it's like, it's,
Starting point is 00:17:11 I mean, it's easier to go down than up, really. You don't have to be as strong. Yeah, exactly. That said, it is kind of more challenging because you're leading with your feet. You can't see your feet as well, so it's slightly harder. And then also you just don't practice it as much and it feels weird.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Do you work out? Yeah, like all the time. I'm a professional athlete. Do you have a trainer for all of it or no? In general no, but I've used a couple sort of climbing coaching services over the years. It's not like I love working out, but I love doing things that I want to do and so that requires working out. Have any other climbers even come close to replicating your free solo accomplishments? There are other climbers who have free soloed
Starting point is 00:17:45 other very hard things, but nobody has done, nobody's even tried any of the things that I've done. Do you really want to promote the sport to everyone out there? Do you have an agenda for that? Because you love it so much, or is it just like, no, this is just what I'm good at and I love it? I don't feel like I need to promote it,
Starting point is 00:18:05 but I do just love climbing and I'm happy to share my enthusiasm. How long could you actually hold somebody? What do you mean hold? You know, if you were holding on to something. Like cliffhanger stuff, I was just hanging while trying to hold somebody. Hold a human.
Starting point is 00:18:19 No, like two seconds. I mean, you just get ripped off the wall. That stuff is totally unrealistic. Would you instinctively kick them off your hand? Yeah, kick them in the face so that you can survive better better one goes than two Yeah, fair enough. Okay, so there's no no it depends on the situation I mean if someone was like hanging on your back and you know You were carrying like a backpack you might be able to hold on to somebody for quite a while You recently rode a bicycle from Colorado to Alaska
Starting point is 00:18:41 To climb a series of mountains. No one has ever climbed before. No it's not true that no one's climbed them. We did some new things but people had climbed the various summits. Do you prefer climbing in the cold versus the warm or the hot? In general you're better off being slightly cold than warm just because if you're sweaty your grip is worse. The bike ride, have you always been into that? I've done two other sort of month long bike tours in the past and then for a time I didn't own a car so I biked a lot. So I have like a bit of a base of biking,
Starting point is 00:19:13 but no, I haven't ridden a bike since that trip. How was your ass after that bike ride? Terrible and that's the thing with biking, I was like, you'd think that after 2000 miles you'd get used to it and it'd be fine, it's like no, it still sucks. Well well I don't know why you can't have a more comfortable saddle yeah I think cuz it just chafes more I mean I think if it's comfy when you sit on it for a minute after a hundred miles it's like
Starting point is 00:19:32 too bouncy and chafey and I don't know how many miles a day were you doing like a hundred or so every day every day and then we climbed in two different sort of renowned climbing areas along the way you have no idea what like a good time is. Jesus Christ. The mountain you climb in Alaska is called Devil's Thumb, which I thought meant something completely different. What makes it so difficult? Oh, it's just like, it was like, imagine the Devil's Thumb.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It's like a giant spire of granite sticking out of glaciers. It's remote. It's in the middle of nowhere in Alaska. It historically has terrible weather, though we were very lucky with a great weather window. So our experience was actually pretty chill weather-wise. Do you study the weather? No, I just show up and I pray for the best.
Starting point is 00:20:13 OK. You're not like, oh, I can see that there's a front developing blopper. No, when people are like, oh, I see high lenticulars, it means what? I'm like, no, you don't fucking know. So I surf, and surfers always know everything about the weather. And swells, and I'm always like, just, you don't fucking know. So I surf and surfers always know everything about the weather and swells.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And I'm always like, just tell me when it's good. Yeah, no, I'm exactly the same. I'm typically climbing with somebody who's better than me at those kinds of things. And so I just let other people decide. Do you always climb with a buddy? No, but for stuff like that, if you're climbing on glaciers,
Starting point is 00:20:39 you're pretty much always with partners because when you're crossing glaciers, you need to be roped to somebody because you fall into holes like crevasses. Do you ever have to take a huge shit on the side of the mountain? All the time you just do it. You ever get sick to your stomach and just like like that type of? Yeah no I've had a bunch of full-on one-handed dumps off the side of mountains when you're like literally hanging on the side of a cliff and you just hang on you're like oh my god I got poop. Do you carry some Continental
Starting point is 00:21:01 wet wipes with you? Generally I have some TP in the bag just in case By the way, you still have that van? No, I well so the one that you saw in the film free solo I wrecked that van sadly, but then I Found out that my wife's pregnant right after and so we were kind of like well that van also You're hanging from your fingers all the time in it. I saved the hangboard. I have that same hangboard in my new van Do you yeah? Yeah, what about you have a toilet now in your bath and save the hangboard. I have that same hangboard in my new van. Do you? What about, you have a toilet now in your van? No, I think that's weird. It's like who wants to like poop in their living room?
Starting point is 00:21:32 Like you just go outside. No, you have a bathroom, separate. But it's not separate because the van is just one space. So even if you put a little partition, you're still basically pooping right next to your bed. I'm gonna have to show you some better layouts of sprinters. I know a lot of sprinter layouts. I've lived in a van for like 15 years
Starting point is 00:21:47 What percentage of your year is in a van? Well now what in the last two years since we've had kids much less But before that, you know, I mean I fully lived lived in the van for 11 or 12 years Just straight you still sleep with the with the bottle next to you the people. Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course You still sleep with the with the bottle next to you the pee ball. Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course Even in the house. No, not in the house in the house. I use the toilet. It is better You got a carabiner for your keys. No, I think that's also stupid. All right though nowadays I don't even have keys cuz I'm driving away. I just walk up and my phone works and I drive away and that's yeah, that's crazy What are you driving? Rivian me too. Dude's so nice, huh? Do you have the the T or the S? I have the truck. I have the true
Starting point is 00:22:27 No, actually, we just bought SUV. You have a place in Tahoe. Yeah, my grandpa built a place in in 1949 I think and do you go to Tahoe a lot still I spent my summers there as a kid and the family place like with My grandparents spent the whole summer whereabouts. I'm from I live in Tahoe part-time. Yeah, South Lake. Okay, I'm up North Lake I live in Tahoe part time, yeah. South Lake. Okay, I'm up North Lake. I'm in Tahoe City. Oh, lame. That's the wrong side of the lake. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:22:50 The west side, the best side. I don't think so. It rhymes. Well, what rhymes is south. Actually, they just call it the dirty south, so that's kind of less cool. Is there good climbing in Tahoe? It's so-so. In the summer, it's not great because it's too hot.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I think of Tahoe more as a vacationing place where you go hiking, you hang out with the kids, you play at the beach. It's so so in the summer. It's not great because it's too hot I think of Tahoe more as a vacation you play as well. You go hiking you hang out with the kids You like play at the beach. It's all lovely I live in Vegas Las Vegas full-time and that's the best climbing in the country Las Vegas is the best climbing in the country. No Vegas has great climbing That's the thing is the reason we live there is the local climbing is what is local climbing in Vegas? Where is it mounds? Yeah, you I know Vegas. I was there this past weekend. Have you ever been didn Where? Is it mountains? Yeah, you obviously use Vegas. I know Vegas. I was there this past weekend. Have you ever been to the Westside?
Starting point is 00:23:29 Didn't think of walking outside. Yeah, exactly. Just look to the distance. Look to the West and you'll see these giant walls everywhere. Red Rock is this famous sandstone climbing area that's really well known, up to like 2,000 foot walls. And then behind that are these bigger limestone mountains that are covered in sport climbing areas. Do you immediately get recognized? I know periodically you would get recognized just
Starting point is 00:23:48 in everyday life, but when you're on a mountain is it just like... Well on a mountain it's like pretty... Every single person. Yeah, probably. Are they trying to impress in front of you? Do you ever notice that? No, it depends. I mean home crags much less so.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Like around Vegas anyone I run into probably lives there too and I've probably seen them at some point or at least they know I live there Mm-hmm You know But if I show up at random other parts of the country to go climbing then people are a lot more like whoa What are you doing here? You know like let's chat you listen to podcasts while you're a climate ever fairly infrequently I find listen anything. I listen music. Yeah, like early 2000s rock do you yeah? Stained?
Starting point is 00:24:25 Not quite stained, but yeah, that genre. Yeah, let's say that genre. I don't know, why is that my first poll? That's great. Maybe more like Tool. Tool, oh okay. Have you ever been to the Sphere? Yeah, I have, I saw you too there.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Did you enjoy it? I don't totally love the music with all respect to you too, but I was kind of like, you know. Did you climb it? No, because I don't want to get arrested, but respect to you too, but I was kind of like, you know. Did you climb it? No, because I don't want to get arrested. But this other guy climbed it and got arrested. And now he's like facing probation or something for this like climber in town.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Are you allowed to climb any buildings on the strip? Dude, just a couple of weeks ago, last month GQ ran and we reached out to do some urban photo shoot thing with me. So we like crawled around and sold sides of things. And then as we were leaving, you could hear guys on radio's being like can you go check out the guys on top of the parking structure and you know we're like oh geez but I but no I haven't sold it anything meaningful there because I don't want to
Starting point is 00:25:13 get arrested and it's not worth the headache do you watch those videos of like those Russian kids that like do the crazy photos that stuff yes it's I mean they're fearless the things that they would, just for shits and giggles. I'm like, remember that one video, that swing that they had off an abandoned high rise? Yes. Holy cow. Just a rope swing?
Starting point is 00:25:37 Kind of. That seemed safe. Oh yeah, it was real regulated. Well, if you rig it yourself, you can make it as safe as you want. How do you deal with the heat in Vegas? For climbing, there's climbing at 8,000 feet. It's north facing. It's full shade all the time.
Starting point is 00:25:50 There's no humidity. It's like, it feels fine. You're north face. Is that your main sponsor? Yeah. Yeah, I suppose so. Well, how does that work with a sponsor? They cut you a monthly check? Yeah. Yeah, they just pay you a salary to represent. But monthly? Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:04 You don't know? Well, it goes through an agent and like, I just don't really stress. You just get the check when you get it? Well, I don't even think I get checks. I think somebody else gets something and it puts it into account and I just don't even stress it. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And is that like the bread and butter sponsorship money? It definitely used to be. In general, that's the thing for professional, if you're a professional climber, you're probably making your living off sponsorship. For me, it's a little bit different now because of the success of Free Solo. I make a lot more from corporate speaking
Starting point is 00:26:30 and things like that. Do you hate the commercial speaking? No, no, it's like, dude. I mean, but you say you get nervous in front of people. Oh, I'd say I used to get nervous in front of people. Now, I just don't care anymore. Now I've done enough that it's pretty chill. What's like one of the worst ones where you're like,
Starting point is 00:26:44 oh, they set me up on this. I'm taking the check, but this is not. I don't know if I've done anything bad. I think the ones that I dislike the most are like a sales conference or something where you stand on a stage, it's insanely bright lights, you're in like some auditorium and there are like 3000 people and you can't see any of them.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Okay. And you just speak into the void in some like echoey, boomy box, and there's like no feedback, you have no idea what happened. I like that. And then you speak into the void in some like echoey, boomy box and there's like no feedback. You have no idea what happened. And then you see the timer and then you walk off and you're sort of like, I really prefer smaller groups where you can like chat with the folks and take Q&A and like, you know. I always just find that stuff like demeaning when they have this money, these companies
Starting point is 00:27:17 and they're like, oh, we wanted a comedian. So here, come tell jokes in front of us. You find a demeaning until they pay you. And then you're like, man, I love that. I think of myself as a piece of meat that gets shipped around the country in a little metal box. I'm like, honestly, for half the work things I do,
Starting point is 00:27:30 I'm like, they could just gag me and put me in the back of the car and drive me there and it'd be the same thing. How long, when you do a public speaking, whatever people want. Well, how long would you be, what if they said do two hours? Would you be like, I'm not doing two hours.
Starting point is 00:27:41 No, I'd just get into some crazy stories or something. But I would go deep and be like, okay, well. And you know, I probably not doing two hours. No, I could just get into some crazy stories or something, but I would go deep into like, okay, well, and you know, I probably have 30 minutes of good material. It'd be on that. I'll just tell, you know, you want to hear one hand in pooping stories? I got a couple and they're each insane. And if you set them up, then that'll take some time.
Starting point is 00:27:56 What do you think of Patagonia? Oh, they're great. Amazing. Are they a sponsor too? They aren't because they compete with the North Face. That's what I thought. I thought you- But incredible brand. Actually on the Devil's Thumb expedition thing last year when we were biking up to Alaska,
Starting point is 00:28:09 we stayed at Yvonne Schnart's house for two days. The founder of Patagonia. I mean, for an 80 year old billionaire, he just like hung out and cooked his beans and rice and chit-chatted and it was amazing. I was like, what an inspiration. He's the man. Do you hate the tech bros ruined the bubble vest? What did you just say?
Starting point is 00:28:27 Like what is a bubble vest? You know, like sleeveless vest jackets that are kind of cool that were meant for like climbers and hikers, but now like all the tech... Oh, you mean a down vest. Oh, there are no bubbles inside. That's feathers. Well, you know, because all they called a bubble vest.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Yeah. Yeah, some people called a bubble vest. I've never heard that. Yeah, yeah, down vest. I got it. Yeah, it's full of feathers. All right, you get the point. Yeah, I got it. Do you own any vests? I think vests are totally stupid. I was like, why would you buy a garment with no sleeves and no hood? Stop it. They look good. They look good in certain environments. And it's nice. It keeps you warm. I have a couple vests. But like the point of a down jacket is to keep you warm. Yeah, I know. If you're trying to stay warm, you should have sleeves. But you also need mobility.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Actually, no, so I do have some friends who are professional alpinists who swear by vests as like part of the layering system. Uh-huh, thank you. Because they don't want too bulky, like they don't want too much stuff on their arms and yeah, I think it's stupid though. Are you still eating like an idiot?
Starting point is 00:29:16 You mean like simply? Yes. Yeah, yeah. The spatula? Yeah. You're not. No, no, I have, you know, it's like now we have a house, we have plates, we have all the things.
Starting point is 00:29:27 But if I'm by myself, then yeah, I just do whatever is easiest. I didn't want that to be the case. It's the simple life. Uh-huh. Well, why do more dishes than you need to? It makes me laugh. That makes me laugh. I mean, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Why do more dishes? You went to Berkeley, studied civil engineering, but dropped out. Indeed. Why do more dishes you went to Berkeley studied civil engineering, but dropped out indeed Why I didn't have any particular aptitude for engineering and and I like rock climbing a lot more You think you'll go back and finish up I died for many years. I did I was kind of like I'm taking a semester off I'm taking eight semesters off. I've taken, you know, 24 semesters off. You know the number now. Well, no I'm like 15 years. Yeah, I'm at like 30 semesters. You respect those American Ninja Warriors. I Well, no. It's like 15 years. I've been at like 30 semesters or something. Do you respect those American Ninja Warriors? I mean, yeah. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:30:09 It's in your wheelhouse. You probably could... Oh, I think I could do the course. I don't think I'd win though because it's for time. I got you. I wouldn't be nearly as fast as people who are good at it. Do you enjoy the speed climbing in the Olympics or no? Yeah, actually I'm really into it. I mean, they're climbing a 45 foot wall in four and a half seconds. It's like, it's crazy. It doesn't look like they're human, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah, exactly. When they run on walls. They're back to their origins as apes. Your mother, at age 66 and at 70, became one of the oldest persons to ever climb El Cap, which begs the question, is it really even that hard? No, I mean, I would say no. I would say anybody could do it.
Starting point is 00:30:46 You could take me up? Oh, yeah, easily. With two weeks of practice. I mean, she put a lot of effort into practice training, like learning systems, learning the ropes and stuff. And then we spent the whole freaking day going up there and it was a total life experience. And she got crushed and it was like the biggest adventure of her life.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I love it. You could definitely do that. You're a lot more fit than my mom. Well, I don't know your mother, but that's very nice of you to say. Okay, how long have you been married? I don't know, six, no, I don't know. Four or five years? Same.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Were you registered at REI? Yeah, yeah, I have an old account. Yeah, I get my little... No, we registered at REI for your wedding. Oh, no, no, I was strongly anti-gift. I don't know if we got anything. The wedding cake, was it one giant Cliff bar? I got fired by Cliff bar, so I have bad blood with Cliff,
Starting point is 00:31:30 but no, no, I'm kidding, I don't have bad blood, but that's a long time. But you did get fired with them? I did get fired, yeah. I don't like them anyway. They dropped everybody on the team that did risky things, basically. I was kind of like, come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I never have been into eating any type of protein bars or things like that, they've always tasted gross, I don't like them. But one time I found a bar that I liked. It was a Luna bar. It was like a mint jar or something. But then I found out that it was for women. But you know, it's still essentially a candy bar.
Starting point is 00:31:54 So you might as well just eat it. That's well, I thought I was okay. But then I thought I started developing breasts. I was worried. I was like, oh man, I shouldn't be eating this thing. You moisturize or no? No. That's that bad for future grip?
Starting point is 00:32:06 It is, yeah. Well, skin stuff is, skin is a total thing for climbers. Everyone's like either your skin's too hard or too soft or whatever in your oyster and make sure it's better than it is. Let me feel your hands if you don't mind. I'm just, you know. Just give me, how would you, would you shake my hand?
Starting point is 00:32:21 No, I just. I mean, you definitely have some calluses, they're strong. What do you weigh? Like 160, I know. How often do you weigh yourself? Like twice a week, let's say. In the morning? I only weigh myself if I've woken up,
Starting point is 00:32:34 take my morning poop, and then weighed myself. With the same person. Yeah, well. I do that as well. But the thing is though, that I have to get up with our older daughter every morning, so I generally wake up with the baby and then, and then things happen and then I eat breakfast
Starting point is 00:32:48 and do whatever. And so I rarely wear myself just because normally the day gets away from me. How has your sleep schedule changed since having children? Yeah, it's like somebody ran a truck over it. It's like. I mean, normally, what time did you used to go to bed? 10, 11, maybe like 11, 11.30 and then sleep till,
Starting point is 00:33:03 you know, seven or eight or something. And now, have you shifted it? Or now it's just a complete disaster. It's just, you go to sleep when you can, and you get up as soon as somebody starts to cry. You have two daughters? Yeah, I have two daughters. Seven months old and two and a half.
Starting point is 00:33:16 That's exciting, right? Yeah, I'd say it's only getting better. You know, the one thing that always struck me was that you don't have the same level of fear that a lot of people have. But does that transfer to all types of fear? Like, do you have fear for your kids? Like, you're like, oh, I don't want them to get hurt.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Or you just, you have no fear for anything. No, it's not that I don't have any fear for anything. And I mean, I do, I definitely don't want my kids to get hurt. But I would say I probably have a much higher tolerance for risk with my kids. Like actually my two and a half year old just learned to climb this really steep ladder in this place that we were staying. And you know, I was like, that's fine. You know, I'm spotting, I'm paying attention. You're spotting?
Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah, I'm sort of watching. But I'm sure a lot of parents would feel very uncomfortable with their small daughter climbing up and down this steep, brickety ladder thing. I'm sort of like, you know, if you're there. But if you can catch them, that's not an issue. But if she was up there by herself, unsupervised, would you be like, oh, I hope she makes it? You'd be nervous. No, I would definitely, I would definitely supervise.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Uh-huh, all right. So you're not wired completely, you're not like a maniac. No, no, I don't think so. How much parenting are you doing? You doing 50%? Where are you at? What percentage? Probably less than 50, but I would like a maniac. No, no, I don't think so. How much parenting are you doing? You doing 50%? Where are you at? What percentage? Probably less than 50, but I would say a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I think I do mornings and evenings every day. Even when I'm climbing, I think I'm a very involved parent. Do you ever like when things are tough, as a father or a husband, think, you know what? I'm just going to go for a real reckless climb right now. No, no. Even back in the day before having a wife and kids and all that kind of stuff,
Starting point is 00:34:52 I occasionally did some solos where I'd have a bad break-up or some dramatic stuff going on, things in life. And I'd be like, oh, screw it, I'm gonna solo this thing. But it was never like, I just don't care, I'm gonna kill myself soloing. It was just kind of like, oh, I'm gonna harness this thing. But it was never like, I just don't care, I'm gonna kill myself soloing. It was just kind of like, oh, I'm gonna harness this angst, I'm gonna do something I've always wanted to do. This is so exciting.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Because generally when I feel that kind of level of screw it, it's like, screw it, I'm gonna eat two boxes of donuts and watch four movies in a row. What's the most you've ever weighed in your life? Coming home from the Devil's Climb thing, the bike tour to Alaska, I was the heaviest I've ever been. My legs were way bigger from biking 2,400 miles. And I think I was just heavily inflamed.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I was like, just, I was kind of unhealthy. Like basically going hard like that for a long time. I felt like, I felt less fit actually than when I started, sort of counterintuitively. It was like I did too much and was like, I'm dying. But then my wife called me Husky. And I was like, oh, Husky, come on. You ever return the favor to her and call her Husky?
Starting point is 00:35:44 I try my very best not to. Well, you know, two pregn. You ever return the favor to her and call her Husky? I've been trying my very best not to. Well, you know, two pregnancies in the last couple years, you're like. You're like. Ha, ha, ha. Don't lie to me, how many times have you watched Free Solo? Not that many. All the way through maybe, I don't know, six or something.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I mean, all part of the tour, you know? So like the premiere at the different places, like with certain audiences, like certain screenings. Are you excited for the day that you and your daughters sit down and watch it together? I don't know. They're gonna be like, daddy, why are you so mean? Why are you such a psycho?
Starting point is 00:36:16 I mean, yes, some of that will come through, but still, that'll be a pretty neat time capsule. Actually, my wife was joking about at what point our kids will notice that it's unusual to know all the people in the movies they see or films and stuff, because the kids have seen like the Devil's Climb thing with me and Tommy,
Starting point is 00:36:34 and they're like, oh, Uncle Tommy, Uncle Tommy, that's cool. But so they're sort of used to seeing stuff on screens where it's like, oh, people they know, and like, why don't you watch better movies, geez. Well, it's that and Frozen. Yeah, I've been watching that and Frozen 2. By the way, I'm gonna go on record right now. This is controversial.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Frozen 2 kinda sucks. I think Frozen 2 is better than Frozen 1. I didn't finish it yet. The soundtrack, no. The soundtrack is not as good. But the story itself in Frozen 2, I prefer. Really? Well, we'll see when I finish it. Because somebody said the second half improves.
Starting point is 00:37:06 You ever go to a spa? No. You laugh at me for that question, but like if anybody really should just lay there and get like worked on. I get body work once a week. You get body work? When I'm at home, we have this body work guy in town,
Starting point is 00:37:19 he's amazing. Okay, so you're not doing. Pat, shout out to Pat, he's the world's best body worker. Pat's the world's best body worker? I think so. Yeah for like deep tissue massage Pat does not. I don't like deep tissue, it hurts. But that's the point. No, no I don't want that. I want to fall asleep. Yeah, well that's the different, that's the different kind of thing. Like I want, I want like a mechanic to just get in and like brace some things with his tools. I want beautiful soft hands and I want a
Starting point is 00:37:41 ball of sleep. I want it to be peaceful. No, I've got my man Pat. We just talk about football or something the whole time. He's just like, breaks stuff up. What's your football team? Which everyone wins the most. You're just a front runner? I just like to see excellence. Oh, look at you.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I wanna see. Do you care about college football or no? No, but I do like that the games are so high scoring, that they look like basketball games. And it's like 84 to 72. And you're like, how the fuck do you score so many points? You think that's crazy? How about the fact that Vegas can predict those spreads
Starting point is 00:38:08 of 57 points? I'm like, that's ridiculous. Everybody that's on my show gets a gift, but it's just stuff from my house I'm trying to get rid of. I do a lot of that too, just giving people my trash. Yeah, but this is a funny gift to me. This I wanted you to have. It's a serving spoon.
Starting point is 00:38:27 But my son and I were on the beach. All we ever do on the beach is look for treasure. Anything that's been left behind. And one day we found this serving spoon. And my wife has nice dishes and nice serving. She didn't want your serving spoon? No, so listen, this is years we've had this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And every time we'll have like a real dinner, friends over, I will put that serving spoon into the dish, and she will just be outraged. Like, ugh, these things are so funny that he found that on the beach, and everybody's like eating at her house, like, the fuck, this was on the beach. Anyway, I think you should have that. That could be your new cereal spoon. I found that on the beach and everybody's like eating at our house like, the fuck this was on the beach. Anyway, I think you should have that.
Starting point is 00:39:06 That could be your new cereal spoon. Okay. This I got for you. This will be for your seven month old. This is a fun one. It just hooks onto your shoulders like this. And then it's like Swedish, so it's simple. And then the kid just sits up there and they love it.
Starting point is 00:39:24 They strap in. Oh, by the way, it comes apart. Boom. Wow, you could do a commercial. Oh no, I don't do commercials. I don't know how you're gonna get this home. Wait, that? You're giving that to your daughter?
Starting point is 00:39:34 You are literally just taking all the trash out of your garage. Get this off the desk, please. Yeah, yeah, okay. I got more stuff coming. Oh, hold on, we gotta get this. Get this spatchel off. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:44 This is all just the, cute clothes for the sixth month old. Oh, look at these pants, little flare leg. Those are actually my wife's gonna love that kind of stuff. No, she's gonna love them. And there's a lot of stuff is good and hasn't been worn. Oh, look at this cute little swimsuit. She'll love every. Dude, this is actually, this is great.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Oh, I got it. Look at this, little tiny vest for her. Yeah, that's actually really cute though. Oh, I got it. Look at this. Little tiny vest for her. Yeah, that's actually really cute though. Oh wait, wait, look at this. Look at these flare jeans. Are you kidding me? Dude, my wife is gonna love this. I know, I want you to go home,
Starting point is 00:40:15 she'll be happy that she go. She's gonna be shocked that I have nice things for a baby. Let me put all this back. But also, how do you still have all this, I thought you said your kid was a five. I have a five year old boy and a one and a half-year-old girl. Oh, oh wow, you're in it still. No, it's the easiest thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Couldn't be easier. Love it. Here, get this. So your daughter just aged out of all this? Yeah. Here, because I know that you have a Rivian. I have some aftermarket Rivian stuff for you. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:40:44 My brother, the tech guy in the family, he's some of this stuff. I'm like, no. You're gonna... he writes these long letters to me. Dude, your brother, what a dude. This is a wireless charging pad. The wireless charging pad on the Rivian is terrible. My brother writes, this pad slides on top of it, plugs into the USB port in the center. Well, actually works. Yeah, but I just have a plug and then you just plug in your phone, who cares?
Starting point is 00:41:10 You're resisting like I am. He's got this, this thing. I'm strongly anti weird phone stuff. This goes like into like the air vent and it like sticks out. Actually, I would try that. You do not want that? No. I think my wife would be really into that.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I think she would too. What is this? I don't even know what he's got me here Removing the airbag warning stickers on the Sun Visors would be tough and you may damage the fabric instead Use these custom stickers to mask the warnings Brother and I are the same when that's if I hate seeing like a big warning sticker Oh This I don't want this is like Man. I see it. I'll keep that. Oh, this I don't want. This is like fits in.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I don't think I want this either. A bigger cup holder. What is this? Cause he doesn't like the cup holder. He thinks the cup holder's flimsy. So that goes on that base. And that's a much bigger cup holder. Oh, in the bottom.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Yep. The bottom part. Oh, classic. That's a, that's a, that's a, your call on that one. Oh, this is weird. You're sure you don't need those? Well, I know you don't need those, but you sure you don't want to keep them?
Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah, you know, they're gifts. No, I appreciate that. Hey, Alex. Thank you. Thank you. It's very meaningful. I don't like that you don't want to accept my gifts. Do you have any hobbies where mistakes don't result in death?
Starting point is 00:42:21 I do the New York Times Crossword every day and that's that mistakes just result in frustration Were you a Sunday clue? Yeah, I was a clue like last week. Yeah, it was amazing. That's pretty I've been a clue but not a Sunday Yeah, I've actually I've been a clue a couple times in different ways Not like my name exactly but LCAP and freesolo stuff and then yeah But being in the Sunday cross I got more texts from friends than I had from any climbing achievement in like a decade. I was so psyched. I was like, oh, I made the Sunday Times.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Here's what I've always liked about my own and the shoes that I wear. I don't have any desire to do things, but I just love when other people can. I'm fascinated by your journey, but you'll never see me paying whatever it costs to do Mount Everest. But I feel the same way about tons of things. Like, I would never ever do comedy. Like, no. That is not for me. I think it might be.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I hate public speaking. I hate being in front of crowds. I'd never choose. I hate that too. Well, then what do you do? Well, listen, I didn't have a lot of choices. I couldn't climb a goddamn mountain, that's for sure. Yeah. But did you, you went to college somewhere though? I did. I couldn't climb a goddamn mountain. That's for sure. Yeah, but did you you went to college somewhere? I did. Yeah, so you get a job? No, there's no no one's higher. That's why I got into comedy. I wasn't those interviews weren't going well What is your opinion just real quickly on Mount Everest the whole guided like the commercial guided thing on Everest
Starting point is 00:43:42 I think is a little bit weird. I may have a lot of friends who make livings as guides So I'm so don't have don't have poo poo their profession Like the commercial guided thing on Everest, I think is a little bit weird. I may have a lot of friends who make livings as guides, so I don't want to poo poo their profession, but it's a little bit weird to sort of outsource your risk. Like when you're hiring, you know, Nepali porters or sherpa to carry your loads for you, to set everything up for you, it's like, it's not really climbing.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Like it's not what I think of as climbing. It's like you're paying somebody else to do all the work for you, so that you can take a box and say that you achieved something. Yet some of them still die. Yeah, no, I mean, that's the thing. And so despite all that, it's still very challenging. You know, it's like, I'm sure it's I've never done it, but I'm sure it's still physically
Starting point is 00:44:14 very demanding. What I'd like them to do and I'd consider it is a building a gondola up there. That would be nice. Why go to Europe? There's a gondola practically every mountain. No, but that is kind of the whole, that is the weird thing. So like the south side of Everest,
Starting point is 00:44:29 the Nepali side, which gets more of the commercial traffic. To get up there, you have to go through this thing, the Kumu Icefall, which is incredibly dangerous for porters and people that commute through it back and forth. There's a lot of random risk, it's an icefall, so there's pieces falling down all the time and people die all the time. And so there are legitimate proposals
Starting point is 00:44:42 to put a gondola past it, so that you would just go from the base camp sort of like to camp one and skip this really dangerous part of the thing. Which you're like, yeah, it makes sense and it's certainly safer for some folks. But at a certain point you're like, dude, if you're taking a gondola, I don't know if it's like, what's the point? You put a moving sidewalk, I'll stand on that too. Yeah. I mean, it does raise some interesting questions. It's like, why do you climb? What's the purpose of climbing?
Starting point is 00:45:05 All those kinds of things. Are you turning into a normal dude? I don't know. I'd say I still have some ambitions. Are you done with Free Soloing? No. Should you be done with it? Well, you know, I just, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I mean, I do recall a quote in the movie. Like, oh, I think it was your wife that said something to the effect of, if we had children, I might, you know, wanna put it. And more of an opinion. Right. Yeah, I would say that my wife's opinion matters a lot more in climbing plans now. I mean, certainly it's like more of a team effort.
Starting point is 00:45:35 By the way, are we not supposed to ever talk about this kind of stuff? Are you like a pitcher in baseball that's doing a no hitter and it's like, don't jinx him. Don't ever talk about that stuff. No, I would say I'm the least superstitious person. That's great. I'm not superstitious in any way.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Climbing in general, you talk about risk, you talk about death, like all that stuff comes up all the time, like you have to think about it. I talk about death every day, like constantly. The thing is, I think the more you know about climbing, the more you can appreciate the nuance, like the subtlety of risk-taking, because not all free soloing is extreme death-defying. Like it's not all all-cap. You know, it's
Starting point is 00:46:09 like you can go soloing and have a lovely time and keep it chill. How embarrassed will you be if you end up dying by choking on a carrot or, you know, like tripping on your front porch? That I wouldn't totally mind. I'd be more embarrassed if I died falling off something. Just because, you know, it's like if you stick it, everyone's like, what a hero. But if you die making some mistake in the mountains, everyone's like, what an idiot. You know, kind of cast out on everything else
Starting point is 00:46:31 you've ever done. I don't think it would. I think your mark is cemented. We'll see, we'll see. Well, listen, Alex, thank you very much for being on the show. Oh, my pleasure. I wish you the best.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I've literally never been on a show where I get to leave with all kinds of goodies. It's so cool. All right, let's go climb something. Oh, yeah, heck yeah. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packer star Kabir Vajabiamila
Starting point is 00:46:58 caught up in a bizarre situation. Hey, GB, explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning in a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron, and the consequences for everyone involved.
Starting point is 00:47:31 You mix homesteading with guns in church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked, voila, you got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, a lone gunman on a rooftop reminded us that American presidents have long been the targets of assassins. Nearly 50 years ago, President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
Starting point is 00:48:03 A woman fired a shot at President Ford. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victor. A woman dressed in a long red skirt pointed a 45 caliber pistol at the president. These are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a sitting U.S. president and the two assassins had never met. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. She is 26 year old Lynette Alice Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky. had never met. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. She is 26 year old Lynette Alice Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife, an aspiring radical working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jane Moore. Sarah Jane could enter into these areas that other people couldn't. A spy, basically. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Parents, are you looking for a screen-free, engaging way to teach your kids the Bible? One that's easy to understand and enjoyable for multiple ages? Kids Bible Stories Podcast is here to help. I created this for my own children, and it's now a favorite among thousands of families. Kids love the vivid imagery, scriptures, and sound effects, while parents appreciate the apply section for meaningful conversations. We have hundreds and hundreds of beautiful episodes that bring the Bible to life when you simply press play.
Starting point is 00:49:29 It's a sound and practical resource that walks alongside you as you teach your kids. We want kids to see how incredible God's Word is in an engaging and memorable way with Kids Bible Stories Podcast. Listen to Kids Bible Stories podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Posh show. I want to thank Alex for being on the show.
Starting point is 00:49:57 We just finished free soloing the Culver City staircase. Unfortunately, on the down climb, he died. Yeah, it was tragic. On a positive note, I got Ava here and Carl. The reason both my dogs are in the studio today is because I am terrified that one of them could end up in some Haitian stomach. I was telling Rufina, I was like, Rufina, have you heard about all these illegals coming into our country and eating our pets?
Starting point is 00:50:35 She assured me she's never done it. You know, she's a wonderful woman from Mexico, but what if she looks at Ava and just, just start snacking on her? All right. Now it's time for Tosh's teaser, brought to you by DraftKings. This week, I'm going with Thursday Night Football in the NFL, the Patriots versus the Jets, in a battle of the AFC East, for who do I hate the most?
Starting point is 00:51:03 Currently the over-under is 40 and a half. I hope the game ends in a 0-0 tie Because I hate them both and I hope they never score. Is that possible? Under new overtime rules, I can never follow. I think the Jets Achilles heel is Aaron Rodgers Achilles heel. What do you think of that? Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app now. Use code TOSH. That's code TOSH for new customers to get $250 in bonus bets when you bet with just five bucks and get one month of NFL Plus premium. Offer ends 9.19. Only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. In New New York call 8778-HOPENY or text HOPENY
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Starting point is 00:52:12 For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co slash FTBALL. Let's do our plugs. We've got boys wear pink, go see Eddie Gosling. Check out my tour dates. New show in Reno just added in December. Oh, that'd be fun. Speaking of great football, it's time for our free plug segment.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And today I want to plug the Cuyahoga falls varsity football team. That's in Cuyahoga falls, Ohio. Good luck in your big homecoming game this Friday, the 20th against Revere. Now I know they've embarrassed you the past four years. Constant butt f***s. That's what Revere has done to Cuyahoga Falls. But this year Cuyahoga Falls, I'm hoping with the support of Tosh Show, turns that butt f***ing around and starts f***ing that butt. Everyone here at Tosh Show is sending you positive vibes. Go Black Tigers! Head on down to Clifford Stadium this Friday at 7 p.m. for some Friday
Starting point is 00:53:11 night lights. See you next week. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:53:33 They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Guess what, Will? What's that, Mango? I've been trying to write a promo for our podcast, Part-Time Genius, but even though we've done over 250 episodes, we don't really talk about murders or cults.
Starting point is 00:53:55 We did just cover the Illuminati of cheese, so I feel like that makes us pretty edgy. We also solve mysteries like how Chinese is your Chinese food, and how do dollar stores make money. And then of course, can you game a dog show? So what you're saying is everyone should be listening. Listen to Part-Time Genius on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. There's so much beauty in Mexican culture, like mariachis, delicious cuisine, and even lucha libre.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Join us for the new podcast, Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12 episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host Santos Escobar, Emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartReyo app, Apple podcasts or whatever you stream podcasts.

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