Tosh Show - My Snake Expert - Danielle Wall

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

Daniel puts on a brave face for his chat with rattlesnake wrangler Danielle Wall to learn about her work relocating venomous snakes.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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If a rattlesnake bites me, will I die? You have about 1% chance in the US, so should be good. I should be good. How long do I have to, do I need to get medical attention? You should. Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Welcome to Tosh Show.

Happy belated birthday to me, to Eddie. Thank you. To Pete. Oh. All three of us had our birthday this past week. Now Pete had a big fancy party in Beverly Hills. Tons of people showed up. Who's who of who gives a fuck.

And, and then Eddie did the proper thing. I just, just didn't bring it up at all. You just, as soon as my birthday comes, I'm like, oh fuck, I forgot to say happy birthday to Eddie. That's how I know it's Eddie's birthday. Now for me, for what did I do for my birthday? I had a party from 11 to one lunchtime on a Wednesday, rented out the BMX track up in Camarillo and if you've ever been to Camarillo,

it's where all the outlet stores are. So it's just a good day all around. We rented out the BMX track so that my son and I could race each other all day, well, for two hours. And it's a lot of fun. And I invited some of his friends, made them all skip school. They're in preschool. You know, really, there's no attendance.

It's not like you're skipping anything important. And so I raced a bunch of five-year-olds. What's funny is one of the dads there, you know, he brought his bike and he raced too. And he's like, I was really selfless of you to have like a birthday party, but really make it for the kids. And I was like, yeah, I didn't, I wasn't doing this for myself.

You maniac. I, my friend, Danny was there. He's old as shit too. 48 years old. He fell, got hurt, went off a jump, flew backwards off the back of the bike, landed on his back and I just looked at him like, what? What are you doing? We're not supposed to be going hard. He was like trying to set a new track record.

I'm riding around like in this retro BMX bike that has like beach cruiser tires on it, and barely getting that thing in the air, but it's fun. Oh, it's a lot of fun. Now then my son, he had one fall. And then shortly after that, he started screaming because he had to go potty. And he knew his penis was burning.

And I'm like, oh, I've been there. No, but he got some soap in it probably the night before. And we didn't wash it out. That's on us. And, uh, so, so he had to go through that pain. It's kind of a rite of passage for children not to get soap in the eye of your ding-a-ling. And that stinks because then the next pee, he knows that it's going to hurt.

So he's just in full breakdown mode before the pee gets there. Or whatever. I was like, we'll get this taken care of. We had about three or four painful pees. Now he's back on track. The funny thing was when I dropped him off at preschool this morning, I was like, oh, I need to talk to one of his teachers.

And she's like, oh, she's inside, I'll get her. I'm like, yeah, you know what, I'll just tell you, then you tell her. So now it's, I'm like, so he got soap in his penis like a day and a half ago, and it burns a little bit when he pees. And so now when he has to go pee, he gets a little worked up thinking that it might hurt,

but it doesn't hurt much at all anymore. It's done. And she's like, oh, she's just staring at me like, okay, I'll pass that on. And then another father was right there at drop off and he overheard and he goes, oh yeah, that's a tough one. You know, these are the things that you do. I enjoy it though.

Just all the silliness of parenthood. It's like, yeah. Well, speaking of snakes, Eddie, you don't like snakes, do you? Don't like them. Are you afraid of them? Yep. Yeah, I'm afraid of them too. No interest, no interest in learning about them.

I appreciate what they do for us, which I'm guessing is important for the whole ecosystem, but I have no idea what. But today's guest, oh, she, she's like Steve Irwin. If Steve Irwin were still alive and a woman in 5'2", covered in tattoos, barely a hundred pounds. But the point is they both deal with dangerous animals. Enjoy.

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Please welcome Danielle, AKA High Desert Danny. Thanks for having me. Do you want me to call you Danielle or do you want me to call you Danny? Danielle. Danielle? I know, I literally pronounced my own name wrong, but it's Danielle.

But everyone's like Danielle. I'm like, English. You say it like Danielle. I do, I say it like Danielle. You're like French almost. Danielle. Daniella. What about Daniella?

You like Daniella or no? I was supposed to be Daniella, and then my mom wanted us to have more white names instead. Daniela. Daniela. What about Daniela? You like Daniela or no? I was supposed to be Daniela and then my mom wanted us to have more white names instead. That's what I heard. I was supposed to be Daniela. Why white? I don't know, because like, you know, her last name is Pantanita. Italian.

And like, yeah, the spelling and all of that. And she's like, no, it is Daniela Wall. Are you pure 100% Italian? Nah, just my mom. She's the Italian one, full Italian. But my dad's a whitey. Ah, he must appreciate all the ink. Oh, he absolutely hates it.

Oh, I don't think, I think he's probably, he was my biggest hater. Biggest hater of tattoos. Yeah? But you know, classic dads. Well that's good, so you have a relationship with your father. Oh yeah, I mean I had a kid, you know,

said suck it up, dad. Oh that's nice. Okay, because if you see a lot of tattoos, some people might think, oh she probably doesn't know who her father is. But you're saying it's right there, I got him. He's around. Do you believe in ghosts, Danielle?

Yes, I actually believe my house is haunted by my great grandmother. Did your great grandmother live in this house? Yes. Oh, that's- And my grandma, and we've had two grandmas pass away in that house. I've heard things, seen things where I was a skeptic until you see things and hear things you cannot explain.

Well, what did you see? I have seen like the shadowy figure go through the house multiple times. So he's all shadow. Yes, but I had a- Not the actual figure itself. No, but I've had like a remote fly across the room. A remote control?

Mm-hmm, for like a TV. I mean, I feel like this is the hard evidence I was looking for. My name has been called once, and I realized I was in the house by myself, but I responded, I was like, yeah, and then I froze. I've done that though, maybe you like half fell asleep and you just like heard-

I was vacuuming. Oh, you vacuum in your sleep? All the time, it's the only time I can get things done. You live out in Joshua Tree. Landers proper, but it's all high desert, yeah. Do you enjoy that world out there? I love it so much. I grew up in the Bay Area and I will take

the desolate desert away from people any day. Why is that? Any day. What do you mean? It took me four hours to get here with this LA traffic. It was insane. Right, but if you're here, you don't have to go four hours. Yeah, but oh, getting here, there you go.

Only you got me here, Tosh, only you. That's very nice. Mm-hmm, and Tony Danza. I came here a few months ago because Mr. Tony Danza, my heart, hold on, give me a second, and he was supposed to play in Palm Springs, but his show got canceled in New Delhi. What would he be playing?

He played jazz and he does comedy. He's freaking brilliant. No, he does not do comedy. Yes, he freaking does. Tony Danza does comedy? Oh my God, dude, he does a whole, like, stand up, he's beautiful. It's hysterical?

He sings, he's so, just his whole personality. I gotta open for Tony Danza. You gotta hit hit up Tony man. It was one of the best shows I was the youngest one in the entire room by what by 50 years a lot And I was wearing the skimpiest low-cut dress I could I dressed to the nines and and I oh man It was this eyes. I got a picture with them in a smoochie on the cheek. It was a great That's assault. Did you? No, I kissed him. He was, yeah.

Okay, okay. So you assaulted Tony. I did. Are you married? No, but I've been married twice. Really? I know. How old are you?

The men keep proposing. I just turned 30. Oh, congratulations. Thank you. Does that feel like a milestone or no? No, I still feel just like an 80 year old on the inside. Just like loving to go to bed and staying at home, watching the Golden Girls, you know.

I feel like I'm interviewing a character that Amy Sedaris is doing. When did you move down here? 2015, going on nine years now. Is this home forever? Oh yeah, especially since I bought my great-grandparent's house. So that was the reason that you moved down here?

Yeah, my grandpa is still in Yucca Valley, same area. He's 83, golfs four days a week. You noticed how to- Even in the summer? Oh yeah, noticed how to catch snakes. He comes to all my educational things with me and my grandma was around when I first moved down, but she passed away.

I'm sorry. In life. You dropped out of college to pursue your current, am I calling it a profession? It's your profession. Yeah, because I do the relocation for the snakes for free as a volunteer for the community, but I do, I do like TV and film production.

If there's ever a snake wrangler on set, people film out here in the desert, and I'm just precautionary. And I do education, I go to the schools, I teach people how to catch them, and just wildlife conservation. So I make money on snakes, and that is my full-time work.

You're a snake expert then? I'm a rattlesnake relocation expert, so to speak. How often are you relocating a rattlesnake? Oh, every day. I was literally still in the desert moving a rattlesnake past 11 o'clock last night. When you relocate a snake, how far are you relocating it? Or is relocating just code for I'm gonna chop his head off as soon as I get out in the park? Oh absolutely not. Okay, that's why I started doing it because animal control does kill

them and like they do the state doesn't protect this apex predator so I said if I have to do this for free I'll do do it for free. I don't care. It's essentially a half mile past the last occupied property, but ideally no more than two miles for their survival rate. So rattlesnakes don't move as much as people think. So you don't bring them to the same spot and just dump them? No, they're all within essentially like a two mile circle somewhere in equal terrain. What's the largest rattlesnake you've ever had to relocate?

It was about five foot even. I don't know, how big are rattlesnakes get? That's Goliath for us out here. I mean, it would be pretty rare to see a rattlesnake over five feet in California. Those are like the Goliaths, but you know, Texas you'll get six footers, East Coast you'll get eight footers.

I've never liked snakes, and I don't think I'm ever going to like them. I'm an animal lover, but there's a lot of animals I'm like, eh, I could do without that animal. So it's the goats. But I always say I'm not trying to convince people to like them, just like respect what they need to do on the planet. But rattlesnakes don't do anything good for the environment?

Oh, absolutely. Rodent control, man. Yeah, I mean, after all the rodent poisons. See, that's good. I'd rather rodents die. Yeah, like the rodent poisons, though, killed off a lot of birds of prey and a lot of apex predators, and so we got. Wait, how can an apex predator be killed?

Rat poison, the poisons in the rat, the owl. Not so apex anymore, are you? I've seen some owls, like literally, they like explode. It's like with the- Owls explode? Like the bird, you know, animals that have the rodent poison in them, and it like creates all this bleeding. It's a really gnarly way to go. Here's the thing, I know, animals that have the rodent poison in them and it like creates all this bleeding.

It's really gnarly way to go. Here's the thing. I'm gonna tell you something. I put an owl box up in my property so that the owls could kill the rodents, but they don't do a good enough job. There's just not enough. The rodent populations in the last like 20 years, you know, they're going like this while all of our, you know, their predators are going like this because people keep killing them. And the snakes obviously don't eat as much as the birds do. So yeah, the owls and the hawks.

The hawks. Taking a big hit from the decades worth of rodent poison. And it's been outlawed in California now, but it's still the coagulatory one. That's bitching though about the owl box. I tell people, they ask me all the time, how can I prevent snakes? I'm like, coagulatory one. That's bitchin' though about the owl box. I tell people, like they ask me all the time, how can I prevent snakes? I'm like, you gotta prevent the rats.

Like, you know, you don't have a snake problem, you got a rat problem. Put an owl box up. And you know, the owls will eat the snakes too. So the owls, the snakes don't wanna stick around an owl either. I got a canyon in my back, my property backs against, and I've got a lot of tall grass that my kids play in.

So you have a snake haven is what I hear. So I should just be terrified every time when the kids are there? I mean tall grass, tall grasses, yeah. I tell that to people all the time, like even when the kids are like hiking up in the rocks and stuff like that, like they aren't there. I have the snake in my truck, I have two snakes in my truck.

I don't want your snakes out. Oh, but I can show you the one to look out for that's down here. You brought a rattlesnake? I did, Daniel. His name is Wharf. Is he a therapy snake? No, but they're all my emotional supporting animals.

I'm not afraid to admit how terrified I am of snakes. Oh yeah, I mean, Moa. Do you know why I'm scared of snakes? It's not my fault. It's not, it's primal. Right, the Bible did it to us. Yeah, damn Bibles. It's the Bible's fault.

It's in your nervous system to like have a reaction when you see a snake. You see a dog's face and you wanna get your face right in there and just. But have you seen a baby rattlesnake? You same thing, just. You put your face in a baby rattlesnake? They're just so cute.

But do you like them? Oh, I love them now. Yeah. Like, as a pet, you own snakes? Have you seen my stuff online? I've seen some of it. Oh, yeah, I got the rattlesnake crawling up me. And you enjoy that?

I like the thrill, and I like to show that these aren't like the insane creatures that people think they are. Is it safe? Absolutely not. But it's not like, you know. I thought you were going to say it was safe Absolutely not. But it's not like, you know. I thought you were gonna say it was safe. Hell no. They don't love you. I mean, I take the risk, but you know,

driving to LA in one day is statistically more deadly than me holding a rattlesnake in my bare hands. What about, forget deadly, but just like getting the willies. I don't, like, after three years, I stopped getting any willies. So over the years, I've gotten better at not being afraid of heights and my claustrophobia, because I will crawl under houses.

I've been in. You have claustrophobia? Oh yeah, like in the beginning, I was like, okay, well, I gotta get a snake at the other end of this manufactured home, and I'm crawling with no room above me, and I'm freaking out more about being underneath a house in a very enclosed

space with spiders everywhere. What about rats? Where you at on rats? Oh, there were rats down there too. Rats bother you? No. They all give me the willies. I mean, in that time, it was just the claustrophobia part, but I just focused on the snake.

I'm like, you got this. You can't panic. You're the snake wrangler. You gotta be a tough bitch. You don't have to. You don't have to do this. Someone's got it, Daniel. How do you catch them?

You use a flute? Yes, a clarinet, actually. Actually, I do. I've played the clarinet since I was eight. Do you still play it? Yeah, I do. Right now. I got my Beatles score book as my favorite.

I don't know that band. The Beatles. I've never heard of it. John Lennon and Pummelkart. Got it, got it. John Lennon and the guy. I remember him. Yeah, exactly.

But no, I just mainly use like a hook essentially, just like a scoop. How long's the hook? Two feet. Whoa, why is it two? Why don't I go on this four feet? I started at four feet, but the longer it is, like you have a delay and you know,

the tip of that hook and all of that. So like the shorter it is, it's just faster, it's more accurate. That's what I tell my wife. God damn right, same. Winning all around. Were you ever afraid of snakes? Oh yeah.

I said I faked it till I became it in the beginning because I knew I wanted to help the animal, but I was from the city. I had never seen a rattlesnake and I saw one on the road and I poked it with a stick and it like just took off. I'm like, well how hard can it be? Men do it. What are you supposed to do?

How are you supposed to, you're supposed to use a hook, but if you don't have a hook, would you grab your bare hand on one? I have many times. But now, am I supposed to grab the tail of one? Ideally, yeah. Like, you know, I actually don't grab it at all. But like, what if my kid's right there

and he's like, he looks like he's in attack mode? Yeah, I mean, realistically, it'd be easier like you grab the kid away from the snake. Cause like the chance of you actually grabbing the head where you need to and not being bitten, I mean you're 99% of the time you're gonna get bitten. Grab the tail and do that and throw it? Or do a dive in front of it.

That seems heroic. Very. You ever just throw it over a neighbor's fence? It's like your problem now. No, I get that joke a lot though. Can you put this snake in someone's mailbox? Which, funny enough, I mean funny enough, someone, I don't know if you saw, but in 29 Palms out past Joshua Tree, someone was mailed a live rattle snake.

Mailed? Mailed. It came in the mail. No, I didn't mean about this. And he got one at his Florida address too. What a dick. What'd this guy do? I'm really eager to find out who gets sent a live rattlesnake like that. And what company will ship a rattlesnake,

but also a testament to the company for getting it there as promised within 24 hours? It was alive. If a rattlesnake bites me, will I die? You have about 1% chance in the US, so should be good. I should be good. How long do I have to do? I need to get medical attention?

You should. I mean, more people are bitten in the Southern California area near the coast because there's a lot of terrain that you can't see under. There's a lot of snakes. But realistically, everyone is close to a hospital. So you get to a hospital, the doctors aren't stupid. Within how long?

Ideally just as quickly as you can. The more time it's like. But like 30 minutes or an hour, what do I got? I couldn't even tell you. If it's a baby rattlesnake where there's only one teeny drop of venom, you could have hours before you're suffering. But if you get a big ass rattlesnake and it chomps on you,

I mean, you could be unconscious in 30 minutes potentially. There's so many factors. What about my kid? What about when a baby gets bit? Yeah, like the smaller the animal or child, anything, like the less weight to process the venom, yeah, you'll go down faster. Like I statistically would suffer harder than you would.

Yeah, what do you weigh? Probably about 100 pounds. 100 pounds? How tall are you? 5'2". 5'2", 100 would. Yeah, what do you weigh? Probably about 100 pounds. 100 pounds, how tall are you? 5'2". 5'2", 100 pounds. Yeah. You last 30 minutes getting bit by a big rattlesnake? Probably, but I'd be suffering to the point

where I probably couldn't help myself anymore. What's the suffering like, what happens? Your hand's gonna blow up, like it's just the swelling is gonna be really gnarly looking. The bite site's probably gonna start dying off a little. Some of the tissue, this one can go all the way up. Your nerves will be damaged potentially.

Permanently? Sometimes, depending on the snake, yeah. I've never been bitten, so I'm not saying this from experience. You've never been bitten by a rattlesnake? Nah, dude, I've been doing this for six years. It's the easiest shit I've ever done. It's better than eating, it's better than bartending, easier than tutoring children when I did that

through the school district. Snakes are so easy. How long would Carl survive if he got bit? How long would I have? I mean, he's a slightly bigger dog. He's a lot of dogs over 50 pounds with the standard size snake. He's only 40.

Or good, hmm. 45. I mean, still, 50, 50. 50, 50, he makes it? Yeah, just depending on the size of the snake. Like down here. But do I need to take him somewhere to do it? Yeah, yeah, just 50-50. 50-50 he makes it? Yeah, just depending on the size of the snake. Like down here. But do I need to take him somewhere to do it? Yeah, yeah, it's a vet.

I shouldn't suck on it at all and spit? Absolutely not. That's not a thing? No. Sucking and spitting is not a thing on any snake venom? Not on that kind of snake. Oh. Because sometimes I see signs up at this one vet near my place

that's like, get your Antivaxx rattlesnake for your dogs. Right now it's rattlesnake season. That doesn't help? No, the venom doctors across the US are pretty in agreement that it's not, there's no actual true science behind that it either helps at all, doesn't really buy time. And there's been studies done about

anaphylactic shock in dogs after being bitten when that vaccine is in them. Okay. But you know, you see it where, you know, if they can make money off of things. But I would say do your research. I don't do research, but my dog. Have your people do your research. That I might do. So how do you make money if you're not allowed to charge people for relocating these snakes?

Yeah, I'm a donation-based service. You're based service, but I'm in the red every year. You go out of pocket? Oh, yeah. How much you going out of pocket to do this? One year I had to take out a personal loan for like $6,000 to keep it going. But I just, you know, it's just about the animals. I've always kind of made it work. But I got lucky when I moved out to the desert. It was cheap and I bought a house and I sold it when COVID happened and prices skyrocketed.

So I've had good opportunity and then I was able to buy family property. Did you know the home prices were gonna skyrocket? No, I was just excited that I thought the Zillow ads were fake, I'm like $100,000 for this house? There's no freaking way and there was freaking way. I know, California has cheap real estate. You just gotta know where to look.

Yeah, that was what got me to move down there. From San Francisco? Yeah, like I had called my grandpa and I was like, grandpa, I got six days before I gotta renew my lease in the Sunset District in San Francisco. I said, I'm miserable. What's it like living down there? He said, cheap.

I said, I'll see you in six days. He was like, okay, believe that when I see it. And I sold everything and I just moved down. Did you tell me how much people will donate to you for removing these things? Oh, on average, 20 to 40 bucks. You know how much I would pay to get rid of a rattlesnake from my yard? A billion.

I'd love to charge, but then I will literally get those properties out there that I see on Airbnb making 10 grand a weekend. And I get called for a snake and they don't even give me five bucks for gas. And then it's literally the people in dilapidated homes trying to give me a 50. Like literally a couple days ago, this guy, I go there to his house and he has like maybe 80 bucks in his hand. He's like, you know, this is all I got. You know, what do you charge?

I go, I don't charge, actually, I'm a donation-based service for six years, yada yada. He takes out 120, hands it to me, and pockets the rest, and I mean, we're talking nice house, Daniel. Why would he show you $80? Because he thought I charged. He thought I charged, so he was like, here it is. You don't need to see it,

that's a weird thing to display, this guy's an idiot. It happened. It happened. I believe you, I just think guy's an idiot. It happened. It happened. I believe you. I just think he's an idiot. Had a wife lock her husband in the shed so I could come get it because he wanted to kill it. And she didn't want it to die?

So she told him, yeah, go get the shovel and then locked him in the shed. I was very uncomfortable on that call. I'm not gonna lie. Very, very uncomfortable. Am I allowed to kill a snake on my property? Legally, yes, but for non-venomous snakes, you need a hunting license, fishing license, technically.

Why would you ask that, Daniel? Why? I'll tell you why I'd ask it. Because I don't think I'm allowed to kill a coyote on my property. No, like you can't kill the coyotes, the hawks. Like everything else has some sort of formal protection around it.

Just trying to kill my pets. Pretty much. I'm not allowed to kill it. Yeah, and they're like actually trying to. Like when a snake and a dog interact, it's not because they really want to. You know, the snake's not ever attacking anyone. Boy, he's hungry.

Well, he's not gonna eat your 40 pound dog. No, he's not gonna, I know, but I got a nine pound dog. All right, you've, you know, unless you're in like Florida with those pythons. I got chickens. Even my biggest native snake can't eat a chicken in the desert. They don't get that big.

Here's the thing with like a coyote is they say you're allowed to kill them if they're going at like one of your family, a human. So you just have to lie and say that, oh, he was charging me and then plant a weapon on him or something like that. This is what I've learned. Bow and arrow.

They also say if you want to get rid of coyotes, like, cause I have them just in my property all the time, they say that you should kill one of them. This is what I was told. You should kill a coyote and then hang it on your post, like on your fence. That's the only way that other coyotes won't come to the property is if there's a carcass of a coyote hanging there.

I feel like they would eat it. Wouldn't they just eat it? I don't, I have no idea. I'm not doing any of this. I feel like they would just eat it. You know what else I had in my property one time? Never, only seen it one time. And I think he was crazy.

Black bear. Weasel. Oh. A real weasel going crazy at my chickens, running up to their coop, standing up. Do you know that weasels kill because they enjoy killing? They don't even eat. They'll kill all your chickens and just pile them up. That's insane.

I did not know that. And they just enjoy it. He ran to my door, like my glass door, and was just standing there trying to get in my house. Ooh, scary. I did though. I got called for a snake once, and this lady had a car parked,

and had been there for a while and she Goes I dug a hole underneath the car and I go snakes don't dig holes So I look under the car it's a small car and there's a mound of dirt that goes all the way up underneath like no No, no nothing. So I'm like, what the hell so I go in my truck. I get my shovel I start I'm like, I'm curious what the hell dug this and I see this little nose like something come up I'm like, what is this, what the hell dug this? And I see this little nose, like something come up, I'm like, what is this? It was a freaking badger.

I didn't even know they were out there. But it was a- Badger's mean? Yeah, I've heard that if you get in their space, you know, the- Well, you were right in their space. I was literally in its space, laying down next to it, and it looked at me and I looked at it,

and I didn't even process what it was before my body like went hurtling out from under the car. And I said, I can't deal with this. Nope. What if she was going to donate $80? Only if she took out the 20. What about, you ever mess with a King Cobra? Oh no.

I hear Cobra handlers tell me that rattlesnakes are physically more difficult to handle than a Cobra because the Cobras can be so long and it's a lot more meat to deal with. I just like the idea of the spitting thing. I know. That seems kind of cool. The accuracy at like 10 feet. They're accurate to 10 feet? I think it's like six to 10 feet accuracy.

Might even be longer. I gotta remember my Steve Irwin episode on the spitting cobra. You ever been to a snake church? Mm-mm, but isn't that the most insane shit you've ever seen? When they get bit, I just love it. Oh, I hate to say it, but sometimes karma is karma, you know? You're gonna fling a venomous snake around your face.

What do you think? I'm not flinging the rattlesnake around me. It won't bite if the energy in God is true. I don't know what they do. It's kind of like if a bear was holding you and you're terrified, you're not just gonna punch the bear in the face, because then the bear might bite you. You scared of bears? No, I mean, I'd rather, you know, the whole bear thing.

I choose the bear, yeah, I choose the bear. I like that, I like that. That's the thing with bears, though, it's pretty simple. With bears, two types of bears, you know, California, you got your black bears, make a ton of noise, scream, they'll go. Brown bear, play dead, pray you don't die, right? I don't know the rules.

Or does brown bear fight? I don't, I really. Grizzly, grizzly, you. Grizzly, which there's no more in California. Right, there's no more grizzlies in California. I'm not, that's what I'm saying. There's only black bears in California. You could fight a black bear. You could fight a black bear? Oh, what? How much? Let me see you fight a black California. I'm not, that's what I'm saying. There's only black bears in California. You could fight a black bear.

You could fight a black bear? Oh, what? Let me see you fight a black bear. I'm gonna try to run. Anyway, see, I thought it was simple with bears, but snakes, snakes, I think that's where my, a part of my fear is just not having the knowledge to know what's venomous, what's poisonous.

I mean, obviously the number one thing is, does it have a rattle or not? Okay, that I can figure out. Easy peasy there. Besides rattlesnakes, what do I need to worry about? Oh, that's it, just rattlesnakes. That's the only medically significant snake in California that would like truly send you to the hospital

with needing like medical attention. Really? That's it. Huh. Yeah, we're not like a lot of the other places where, you know, Australia, they got like the top 10 venomous snakes all right there. You ever go down to Australia?

No, but I would love to. I don't love it that much. I just wanna see the snakes. Well, yeah, I guess. Where's the weirdest place you've had a fun, like where's the weirdest place somebody's called you and said, hey, there's a snake here? Everywhere, I mean, I've literally, I've.

They're inside the houses a lot? Yeah, just two days ago, I had a rattlesnake in a kitchen and a bedroom. I've gotten them in people's bathrooms, just everywhere on a property you can imagine. You ever found a snake in a toilet? One, one. But it didn't come out from the toilet.

It went into the toilet. Yeah, it was in her bathroom and it's just when I got there, it had happened to be on the seat with part of it in the toilet. You ever cut the head off a trouser snake? I'm sorry, you don't need to answer that nonsense. You own a few properties, you're like your own little

property manager for some Airbnbs, yes? Yeah, I manage two for my friends. What's scarier, snakes or short-term runners? Short-term runners. I ran an Airbnb out of my little guest house for two years and Lord have mercy, never again. So they were on your property. Yeah, yeah.

So yeah, I'll never go back to that. But I have a long-term rental in my smaller house, so that also subsidizes a lot of my bills. Joshua Tree, is it one of these towns where the locals can't afford to live there anymore because it's gotten so popular? Yeah, in like the last three years,

it's exactly what happened. And like the apartment I first rented before I bought my house was 500 bucks. Now it's like 1500 and still the same shitty little apartment. I've never been to Joshua Tree. It's all Airbnbs. Well that's the thing, like I like that there's

a lot of beautiful places in California that I haven't been yet. And it's so cold. Well I know, I'm not in a hurry, I'll get there. Yeah, and some snake wrangling. I'm not gonna do that. You will. No I won't. He will.

Talk about your pets, how many pets do you have? Oh Lord, off the top of my head, 35, 30, 35. Okay. Somewhere in there, if you don't count the snails. I don't count snails. Yeah, I got a lot of those. The problem I have with pets is that I get really attached and the deaths wipe me out. But you have so many pets,

you're probably having constant funerals. Yeah, and just like dealing with being an animal rescue, especially wildlife, like I'm a bit numb to it now. Wait, does that make you not love animals as much when you see how fast the turnover is? with being an animal rescue, especially wildlife. Like I'm a bit numb to it now. Wait, does that make you not love animals as much when you see how fast the turnover is? Sometimes, yeah, you kind of have to detach yourself a little bit and it can be a little easier

when it comes to like, you know, a snake that you're trying to save and you're not like, you know, like when I've had to put my dogs down when I did pit rescue and so yeah, I kind of have to compartmentalize a lot of the emotion of what I do. How do you go anywhere? I mean, like I leave two dogs and some chickens,

it's just an ordeal to find someone capable. Mm-hmm. How many of the sitters do you have to get for all these critters? I mean, today I have three different people going over to my house today, so I can be gone from 4 a.m. to 7 p.m.

And so short answer is I don't leave. You can't. I pretty much don't. Yeah, I have trusted people. It's just it ends up being more work to try to coordinate it all and the stress of leaving them. Are you ever downsizing the amount of animals that live under your roof or is that just always going up?

It fluctuates because I take in fosters, but I have like my permanent zoo where I'm not adding anymore. Like I have a five foot iguana. He's actually like five foot two. He has a 15 foot custom welded enclosure in my house. So you got to know how to weld too. My ex boyfriend was a professional welder. And he's still to this day, he's like, he's still a good welder.

And he still fixes my truck for me. He's not a bad guy, he still helps me a lot. That's good. Very handy. But he did dump you? He did dump me, yes. I mean, our lives, you know, I'm kind of, I'm me. Look at this.

And he knew what he was getting into. This isn't brand new. No, but it definitely got worse. I mean, it definitely got worse. When you meet a random fella and you're interested, like how, and they don't know your whole world, how quickly do you have to be like, hey, by the way, I have a reptile room.

Well, I just got dumped in December after five years, so I haven't been in the dating world. Oh, good, look at me now. But I've been asked out by one person and he didn't know who I was, surprisingly, because in my community, literally everyone knows me. I'm just a stable. Yeah, you kind of stick out.

And I stick out. So, but he, you know, we exchanged numbers. I thought, ooh, maybe, you know, he's cute. But anyway, found my social media. And then after like talking to me for maybe like three hours after that, he goes, your job is just too wild. Your life just looks too crazy.

I'm like, all I heard was you're a little bitch. That's all I heard. I'm sorry I'm tough. I mean, I've called off relationships when I found out they had a cat. I have four. I have four cats. But here's my thing.

They have their own bedroom though. Here's my thing with why, there is one girl out there that to this day probably has no idea why our relationship stopped. And it really was because she has a cat. Now here's the thing, I love animals. I'm really, really allergic to cats. Oh, that's understandable.

So instead of saying, hey, you have to get rid of this cat because I can't be a part of your life, I just ended it because what would upset me more is me having this conversation and then her saying, oh, I'll get rid of the cat. And then I'd be like, well, then I don't like you anyway because you're that kind of person. You discovered of your animal.

Yeah, that's an impossible situation. Exactly. I like your call on that. I just walked away. I said, it's just not meant for me. I just keep thinking about it though, how much better my life would be now had I just taken Claritin.

You saw me at a show, you came to one of my shows a long, long time ago. How old were you when you came to my show? 22, 21, 22? What? Well, no, I was just making sure you were old enough. Oh yeah. It wasn't like you were like sneaking in.

It was at a casino, so. Do you like casinos out there in the desert? I like that you can smoke inside. Do you smoke cigarettes? Occasionally. How often? Are you gonna quit? I used to be a pack a day smoker for a long time,

but now it's more like, like I don't drink, so it's kinda like my cocktail, so to speak. As long as you have some way to justify it. Exactly. I have some gifts for you. Oh, Lord. I stole some denim from my wife's closet

so that you would cover up your legs. I love that. And then this is my denim. Oh my God, that is actually my size. Yeah, it works, she's small. And then that's my denim. That's big. You just wrap yourself up in that and cover yourself up I'll frame them. I'm thinking Above the fireplace. This is my first comedy album. Shut up

Daniel that's my first comedy. I've never hung any of these things up. These things are embarrassing. No, it's not it's fabulous Somebody gave me a lighter and I don't I don't ever have a lighter I don't even know how to fill a lighter. Oh, yeah, but I don't know how to fill it. So I Figured you needed flashlights and I don't ever have a lighter. I don't even know how to fill a lighter. It's a Zippo. Yeah, but I don't know how to fill it. So I have to have a junk drawer. I figured you needed flashlights and I don't use that. Always, I could always use another truck flashlight. I actually get- There's one solar and two batteries. People give me crap because I end up using

my damn phone half the time because for some reason I can never keep a freaking flashlight in my truck. I don't know why anyone would use a flashlight because the phone works fine. Yeah, but sometimes no. This is good for men. It's not bright enough. I know, right?

Oh, you should see the stuff I carry on me. Get this off my table. You've got a good relationship with the local sheriffs out there. Firefighters, good relationship. Not so good with the fish and wildlife. And animal control. And animal control?

Why is there a fish department out in the desert anyway? It's all encompassing. Oh, got it. I do make them look bad because I do their job for free and I don't get health benefits over it. You're talking about the fish and wildlife and animal control. It's all encompassing of like doing more education and promoting these animals.

But they don't like you because why? I'm a flashy bitch, Daniel, look at me. And so I go out there, I'm holding the snakes, they're just like, they just wanna shut my shit down. And they have for a long time, but at the same time I follow all the legality, you know, I do things right. You know, I just, I make them look real bad. I say, hey, if I can do it for free,

why are you guys getting paid daily and you just go and kill it? You know, it just makes no sense. And so essentially there's another reason why I wanted to get, put myself back out there and put pressure on them so we can change these laws so people can't just be chopping them up and, you know, animal control should not be killing an apex predator. Have they tried to get you in trouble for what you're doing? Oh yeah, oh absolutely. You should have seen one year, these people kept,

you know, it was like random texts constantly of can I buy this snake or, you know, trying to get me to like, you know, catch me in something. Who gave out your number? Oh, my number's literally everywhere. You can like, if you just Google, you know, snake wrangler, high desert, I mean, it's all me. So, but what are you doing to make sure

that some creep isn't inviting you to their guest house to be on their podcast? That is like literally the ultimate fear of mine. Right, it should be. It is, it is a very terrifying thing, especially being who I am, all of it. And, but there are multiple people that track me on every call.

If I'm not heard from in an hour, please we'll be called, yada yada. We've been going for 43 minutes. Do we need to? My grandpa tracks me the whole way here, yes. Was he complaining about the traffic? He did call me, he goes, you're not moving. And I'm like, yeah, another freaking accident.

But he was, he's on his lazy boy, I'm sure, watching golf on the TV. You don't want grandpa coming after you. No, he was in search and rescue for 20 years and was a deputy sheriff. He's a brilliant shot. He's terrifying. I love him.

No, he could kick my ass any day. You know how to shoot a gun? Yeah, very well. Yeah, very well? Very well. What does very well mean? Does that mean you're a good shot or you can shoot to shoot a gun? Yeah, very well. Yeah, very well? Very well. What does very well mean? Does that mean you're a good shot or you can shoot any type of gun?

More of the good shot with the ones I have practiced with. But I've had fun with some of my friends when we've gone out and I'm like, oh, you want me to try to hit that? Oh, and try to hit that? And then I get the, pff, pff, pff. You use a handgun? Yeah, I have a handgun.

Oh man. I don't know why that seems scary. I thought I had you with a lawgun? Yeah, I have a handgun. Oh man. I don't know why that seems scary. I thought I had you with a law. Shotgun, I'm a little lady. Shotguns are kind of heavy and awkward. Uh-huh, I don't know. I'm not a shooter. I'm not really surprised for some reason.

Yeah, I don't know why. I don't, I can't, I think aiming is... Might be the shirt. Has nothing to do with the shirt. I think it's the shirt, dude. You kidding me? It's very, it's very, I don't, shoe guns a lot, that's what the shirt says to me.

You want me to tell you what the tattoos mean? I would love to. By the way, if someone gets one tattoo, I feel they really have to like, oh, this means something to me. When you have a lot of tattoos, do they, do you like, I don't care. Just color me up or do you care about everything? I don't give two shits about what's on me.

I kind of just want 80% of my skin gone. And yeah. Why do you want your skin gone? Oh, I like the look. Oh, are you done with tattoos though? Oh no, absolutely not. I still have to finish my neck. I got to fill in the puzzle pieces. I still have to finish my neck.

I got to fill in the puzzle pieces. I got a few days left to tattooing. Are you gonna tattoo anymore of your head? I don't know. I woke up one morning and I was like, I'm gonna stick a snake on the side of my face. It was kinda cause my dad's like, just don't ever tattoo your face.

And I said, well, I love you dad, but also don't say that shit cause that's what gets your kids to do things that, you know. Well, my dad told me not to do heroin, and I was like, all right, that seems like good advice. Yeah. I mean, at this point, there's a freaking rattlesnake on my neck.

Who cares what I look like at this point? What about the back? Is your back done, too? No, it's like pretty bare, actually. Because that's like the last big spot I have to actually maybe plan something that looks good instead of like my doodle board. What if you just gain a couple hundred pounds and you get new areas? I was like 145 pounds and I was like 19.

You were pregnant? No, I just like dated a guy that was a little hefty and we got in and out a lot. A lot. A lot. In those Costco hot dogs dollar 50s, Daniel. Where can people donate so you can continue to relocate deadly rattlesnakes and get tattoos? Um, I mean, everything's hooked up to my cell phone number

with like PayPal, Zelle, but if you look up High Desert Danny on anything, it's all that. All right. But yeah, I don't have anything formal. It's the legality, you know? I'm working with a lawyer right now who's working on trying to get me a nonprofit status. Because if they, you know, like Big O Tires is happy to sponsor me for tires every year.

So like I could get it if I'm a tax write-off for these people. I don't, I never understood really the tax write-off thing. As much because it's like, it doesn't, you still have, like you get a percentage off. It's not like, it's just, oh, it's a tax write-off, so it doesn't matter. Too dumb to understand any of it.

That's why there's a lawyer doing it. But he offered to do it on his own time and dime, so that was very kind. Oh, that's nice. He's just like, yeah, so he's just a big animal lover. That's nice, not everybody's a piece of shit. Danielle, thanks for being on the show. I wish you all the best.

I hope you can monetize all the good work that you do. Stay safe and try not to get bit in the face. That's my goal. Yeah, thanks for having me, Daniel. Big fan. Thank you. I'm Gary Veeder, and I have a new limited series podcast called Number One Dad.

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