Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - A New Rick Glassman Meets a New Esther Povitsky

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

A New Rick Glassman Meets a New Esther Povitsky  The question on everyone’s lips: Has Parenthood changed the dynamic between Rick and Esther? Kinder? Sweeter? Less hostile? Will Rick be nice 5% of the time rather than 3%? Will things remain on rails all the way through the episode? WILL Trash Tuesday become a place of peace, love and positivity EVEN for Ricky Glassy? Watch & see! We also cover hygiene, prenups, anxiety and the hilarious Moshe Kasher crashes the party to make sure we end on a positive note!! → Thanks Moshe! More Ricky Glassy! Rick & Esther Have A Time: https://www.youtube.com/@HaveATime Take Your Shoes Off: https://www.youtube.com/@rickglassman Website: https://www.rickglassman.com/store Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/takeyourshoesoff Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rickglassman Chapters: 00:00A New Ricky Meets a new Esther  00:30 Rick is Late & Planned a Grand Entrance  4:20 Annual Esther Apology to Khalyla  06:00 Alvin is here! and also Rick  07:30 Rick is Nice 3% of the Time 13:42 Khalyla is concerned (hygienically) about R & E 17:16 Things Get Awkward  24:33 Nostalgia  32:42 Banana Break & Prenups  37:00 Are You Less Anxious When Tired? 53:57 Ordering Food Etiquette & Binging  01:18:00 Mosher Kasher Crashes  Follow More Trash: Instagram:   / itstrashtuesday   Tiktok:   / itstrashtuesday   Listen to Trash: Trash Tuesday Podcast iTunes Audio Feed: https://bit.ly/TrashTuesdayPod Trash Tuesday Podcast Spotify Audio Feed: https://bit.ly/TTPodAudio More Esther: TikTok:   / esthermonster   Instagram:   / esthermonster   More Khalyla:  Instagram:   / khalamityk   Tigerbelly Podcast:    / @tigerbelly   Production Team: Tiny Legends, LLC: / @tinylegends.prod Stella Young: / @estellayoung Guy Robinson: / @grobfps Ariel Moreno: / https://www.instagram.com/jade.rabbit.cce/ Shot By: Guy Robinson: / grobfps Edited By: Case Blackwell / https://www.instagram.com/caseblackwell/  

Her prediction of you, of your, of Rick post-Ester pregnancy, being a mom, is that you would be sweeter and maybe the pheromones have changed. Oh, she's always smelled the same. My boy! My baby! I think that you have a respect for mothers and that things are gonna be different now

between you and I. You're ugly and you smell bad. We'll be right back. Big day. You're ugly and you smell bad. We'll be right back. Big day. Everyone ready for the big day? Did Rick call you on the way here?

I don't even, I don't want to indulge this. I'm so disturbed. I just, yes, Rick called me three times. Also he got mad because whenever he calls me, I answer the phone. I just go yes, Rick called me three times. Also he got mad because whenever he calls me, I answer the phone. I just go, what? Oh, that's how my mom answers when I call. Really?

She's never like, hi, or hello. It's like, what? That, that's nice. Yeah, that's so sweet. Maybe I'm Rick's mommy. Also, I have not seen Rick since I had a baby. Do you think he'll have like different, like the pheromones will be different and he'll like obey me more? Also, I have not seen Rick since I had a baby. Do you think he'll have like different,

like the pheromones will be different and he'll like obey me more? I don't know about the obey part, but the pheromones might be different. Also, I think that he's gotten gentler. Because of the dog? Because of the dog. Cause he now has a dog named Alvin.

And I think he's really leaning into his papa energy. Cause the way he spoke to me on the way here. I don't buy it. He was so sweet to me on the way here. That's just one view. That's him all the time. Like through 3% of him is like so overly sweet. And like, no, there's no cheating.

Rick has always been sweet with me. Yeah, 3% of the time for me. There's 3%. And I remember too, we have this mutual friend years ago, the first time she was telling me that Rick was sweet. And I was like, what are you talking? Like, it was so weird. Yeah, I'm not buying it.

Two things he said. He might have COVID, number one. Great. We're like, okay, fine. He's like, should I stop somewhere and get tested? I'm like, yeah. What is that gonna do? Also, if he's not symptomatic,

it's not gonna show up yet anyway. It's fine. Second, he said, please start without me because he wants a big entrance. That is so sad. So that's why we're starting without him. He's not enough. He's probably here.

He, you know what I think it's like, oh, he doesn't feel like he's enough. So he has to like, I'm gonna save it when he gets here. Oh my God. You have a very different relationship with him. Does he ever open up to you about his like, his heart and his soul and his woes and the things. 3% of the time.

Okay, that's a very low percentage. Yeah, but I do receive that at times, but it's, and I know that if I was really down about something, I could call him and he'd give really kind advice. Yeah. But I wouldn't, even knowing that, I still wouldn't want to call, you know?

Like, so what good is it if I'm not wanting to reach out? But I wouldn't, even knowing that, I still wouldn't want to call, you know? Like, so what good is it if I'm not wanting to reach out? Whereas with you, if I'm having problems, it literally, I'm like, I'm so excited to call you. Like, oh my God, I have an excuse to call Kaililah and tell her there's something wrong with my vaginal pH. We live, I'm very much in solidarity about that. I think a couple episodes ago, we talked about our pH not pHing.

Yeah. And guys, nothing has changed. I think, I feel like you're, yours has been better because you haven't been hitting me up. No, I've just been giving you peace where I can. I try, I always try to withhold from you when I can. So know that when I'm calling you, it's because like I was about to burst.

Like I am every day, I'm like, I can hold it in today. I can leave her alone today. And then it just boils and burns. And I just, that's one of the moments. I always know that because it's always like a, a close to midnight call. I'm like, I think she's held on as long as she could. Actually, while it is just the two of us,

will you marry me? No, I do just wanna take like my every once a year opportunity to formally apologize to you for getting your name tattooed on my arm. You have been every other episode. I just still feel like- I know, I know, because it's still on you. Yeah, and every time I look at it,

I'm like, God, does that suck for her? And I'll say this, as I see it fade, I do feel like a deep sense of sadness. Really? So it- It's some type of like Stockholm syndrome thing where I'm like, initially I was like, whoa, and now I'm like, oh, it went from whoa to oh. I didn't know we were eligible for that kind of.

So please like retouch it on your body. For real, like you're not uncomfortable. No, now I fully, yeah. So you were though, that confirms you used to be uncomfortable. Oh yeah. But only for the first two years. Okay, so I am formally apologizing

for the first two years of which, this is a workplace, right? So I made you uncomfortable in the workplace and I wanna set an example and say, I'm sorry. Thank you. And I'm formally letting you example and say, I'm sorry. Thank you. And I'm formally letting you know that apology has been accepted. Okay.

But I do wonder if it's something that you could, one could report to HR in a real workplace. Well, the issues that you're HR. So I don't know what good self-reporting would do. Tank my own podcast. But again, on record, on film, I don't know what good self-reporting would do. Tank my own podcast. Again, on record, on film, I am formally apologizing for making you uncomfortable in the workplace by getting your name tattooed on my arm.

Thank you. Alvin! Okay. Thank you, Esther. Get out of my camera. Alvin! Alvin! Alvie baby!'re oh you're really cute you're really really cute hi is this the right height do you want me to receive Alvin or the flowers Right height? Yeah. Who has stinky puppy breath? Do you want me to receive Alvin or the flowers first? Cause I had a lot of instructions before you got here.

Whatever you want to receive. What do you guys have to do? What instructions do you have? For your big entrance. He's playing innocent. What's my big entrance? For us to get started without you and then you to come in with Alvin

and then him run up to our arms organically. I just thought, I was like, that wasn't like a plan. I was just thinking he would do that. How is it not a plan when you called us both separately and texted us the plan? I called you because somebody in my family got COVID. And I just wanted to make sure it was okay. And I was running a little late.

But you also on the call. Yeah, and to start without me. And I wanted to see if he would run up to you guys and it would be cute. But like now you're just. Why are you denying that it's a plan? I guess I'm more arguing a definition of plan versus like something I was picturing would be cute.

It's not like, oh, if he doesn't run up, we got to do it again. Before you sip the coffee, can I trade? Yeah, you just want to record another day. Can I? Can I? Hold on. Can I trade?

Coffees? My flowers that you gave me for your coffee? Sure. Are you not a flower girl? No, I'm not. I actually, no, but wait. I thank you so much for that. I actually stopped not to get the flowers.

I was a little late cause I stopped. I actually stopped to get you a scone. And then I saw the flowers. I'm like, oh, that would be sweet. She's a mom. Is this a 3% sweet you were talking about? Yeah. Rick, 3% of the time you're very sweet.

Well, you know what? I'm like a scone because about 3% of those things are good. But I got... So true. I got lots of options. I got an almond, I got pistachio croissants, I got a chocolate croissant, and I got a blueberry scone. The scone is for you and the other croissants I thought we could just play around with.

But we don't need to chew on camera. Well, Alfred? Yeah, do they have... Do they... Do they even have good pastries though? I haven't had their stuff. They don't need to chew on camera. Well, Alfred, do they have, do they, do they even have good pastries though? I haven't had their stuff, I don't know. But I went, I see-

So I'm just like a test guinea pig to you, a little hamster. I would just call you just a regular pig. But I think that, I think that I've looked at their, I've looked at their pastries before and I went there specifically for that. I actually didn't even know if I was gonna, didn't need that.

Oh, you didn't know if you were gonna get a coffee? I was specifically for that. I actually didn't even know if I was going to need that. Oh, you didn't know if you were going to get coffee? I was going for that. But so get, hello at home. Why would you go to a coffee shop for pastry specifically? On my way here, I knew that there was an Alfred's and I had clocked Alfred's scones in the past and I never got one. And I was thinking, I wanted to get you something.

And I thought, oh, I've got, literally on the way, it wasn't even on the opposite end of the street.'s right there I get out I got the skull I'm like I'm here I'll get a little coffee there's some flowers well you know what I'm thinking about is when not coffee tea what is it good you once said that you bought me should we record another day I really think let's just see where we how far we can get we could do an 11 minute episode one time you I'm and I'm sorry to bring this up, especially because you just-

Because you could have brought up any other time. I don't even know what you're gonna say, but you're not sorry. You just own that you're not a regular pig. I can't. One time you said that you bought me a bottle of magnesium and then you never gave it to me. Oh.

I still have that bottle of magnesium for you. What kind? It's a magnesium complex from Air One. And you probably used one of those three times that you canceled and had to reschedule. Oh my God, when I was in my first trimester and that is- Oh, it's okay that you canceled. I didn't bring it up.

You did, you pig. No, I didn't. But I didn't give it to you because I'm gonna keep it in my pocket for five months. I have it still sealed for you. I went the other day to get more magnesium because I didn't open yours. Cause in my mind, I'm like, that's not even mine.

Are you serious? I am blown away by that, honestly. Thank you. You're welcome. I am blown away. I was at your apartment though, since then and now, and you didn't give it to me. Yes, I was.

You bought me the magnesium when we were still doing Rick and Esther Have A Time, RIP. And you came on my podcast at the very beginning of Rick and Esther Had a Time before I got that magnesium. And I also came on when I was promoting Drugstore June and I was pregnant. And it was a really bad episode, remember? Well, all of them are.

I mean, not my podcast, but I'm saying with you. I'm so sorry I didn't give you that magnesium and I got you flowers instead of a chai latte, which I also said you could have. And I'm so sorry that I didn't try the scone before you ate it, you fucking pig. I just want to say all that said, thank you so much for coming. Thank you so much.

I do, I am moved by the flowers. I doubt that. You're just not a gift girl. No, but there's something about the fact that he got me that because I'm a mom. And I told you, I didn't say before I got here, I said, I think there's gonna be different here. Yeah, so the prediction was Tyrake.

She's not gonna save you, it's over here. Oh, I'm not threatened by you. We've always had a very sweet relationship. And her prediction- Why is that? Is it because she's pretty? Maybe. It wouldn't hurt. relationship and her Is that is it because she's pretty? Maybe It wouldn't hurt We've never had a super antagonist

We've had a sweet relationship since you know we got to like the good place of being like okay we understand what each other is but her prediction of a view of your of prediction of you, of your, of after post pregnancy, Rick post-Ester pregnancy, being a mom, is that you would be sweeter and maybe the pheromones, her pheromones have changed. Oh, she's always smelled the same. I, I, I, um, my boy! My baby!

Oh my. I think that you have a respect for mothers and that things are going to be different now between you and I. You're ugly and you smell bad. We'll be right back. There's always been respect. But also, I do think that people change after they have dogs or animals.

If there's any change that's happening, it's gonna be with her and I doubt that there is one. Okay? Because I didn't get a dog and all of a sudden, wow, I think Esther's funny. You know. Yeah, but Kalyla actually is saying that you got a dog and now you're a nicer person and you're not. Oh, so you're claiming you've been nice the whole time. I mean, it's just I yeah, I guess, yeah. You don't think I'm such a nice person?

You're stuttering a lot. I'm just like, do you wanna take a beat and like just take a deep breath and like find your answer? Welcome back. Oh, when did you start drinking water? Can we get a little sugar for her water? Do you have little sugar packets? Like in Men in Black?

Wait a second, is this cone not good? Good, are you going to? I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna like. Is it blueberry? I came from a haircut and I haven't looked. Let me see. And I don't know if I'm in the hat or not.

It's shorter than usual. Oh God. Oh, you tasted the water? I like it, I think it's a good cut. Yeah, do you go to the same person every time? No, this is a brand new person. Can I be seriously, seriously, seriously honest? Have you gotten your arms cut yet?

Your hair cut yet? What do you mean? My underarm? I actually did. Can I tell you something? I went out of town for 10 days, bathed once. Esther. That's a good one.

So yesterday when I got back, I bathed and I shaved. I was a good one. And I, so yesterday when I got back, I bathed and I shaved. I was at home in Cleveland, my arms are tired, and I multiple times went five days without showering, but also without leaving the house or even a room. You guys, how? How, this is really disturbing. I shower.

What happens? Like where does the bacteria go? What bacteria? And we want our bacteria is good. Wake up. Microbiome heard of it? I understand it, but like it just, it's so how? Please explain.

Yeah, sure. If I'm rolling around in filth, if I'm Esther, then maybe I would shower more. But when I'm at home and the only thing I'm doing that is remotely like, maybe you should shower after, is just shooting around basketball in the driveway with my dad for a little bit. And then I go back inside.

I'm not really getting that dirty. I don't feel dirty. I feel very sad. I was sad. I was a lot of sad. You were sad? Oh, I was all summer. Cause you've been posting pretty sad girl stuff.

We didn't get to do it, but I was a little sad. Yeah. You're not having a brat girl summer? I wasn't showering much. girl stuff. We didn't need to get it open. I was a little sad. Yeah. And you're not having a brat girl summer? I wasn't showering much. Okay. So this is it. Just to be clear, not showering is not a sign of sadness for me.

It's a sign of prosperity and good fortune. You guys, I'm really trying hard not to judge. Maybe I'm somebody because- Wait a minute. Why is soap such a- It upsets me. This upsets me. Do you shampoo every shower?

I don't care what it is, just run water through your body. I think that the both of you have habituated to your own smells and perhaps think there's nothing dirty about me. Do you think I smell bad? Yes. After 10 days, if I were to come to you,

I promise you I'd be like, Esther, this is not okay. Well, let me just one up all this. When I- Just throws up on yourself. That's a drive way. It's all not changing. When I do bathe, and this is going to be,

this is going to be hard for everyone. When I do bathe, I don't use soap. That's okay. That part I understand. That actually makes sense to me. Everyone at home is going like this. Sure. No, no, no. Soap is very like astringent.

Like it's, yeah. I kind of get that. It's just the whole washing away of the day. No, see that's Catholic guilt. You're you think you're watching that. It's a mental thing for you. You think it's a baptism thing? Yeah, you're baptizing.

We're Jewish, we don't baptize. But then when you smell yourself, are you like, I think it's going well? First of all, I don't go four or five days without showering, that's not a thing I do. I'm at home, I'm in a little bit of a space, I'm not doing much, I sat around in my own filth for a little bit, you get this.

You played basketball. Shot around, and if I was sweating, I would shower. What did you do? And filth for a little bit. You get this. Shot around. You played basketball. Shot around. And if I was sweating, I would shower. What did you do? And it only happened a few times. So I'm sitting between two people in the dead heat of the summer who think it's okay to not shower for a week.

I'm sitting next to one person who instead of listening to somebody's circumstance is unbelievably judgmental. Let me tell you something. Ooh. The shower I will not let go of. I shower. I was at home and I was sad.

I went a couple of times where I went four days without a shower. Do you wash your nether regions? What are those? Your penis and your balls, Esther. And yes. Look, I'm just going to be honest. I've been holding this in the last five minutes.

Farts. Ben throws up again. I'm not changing. And I mean this as a friend, and I'm only doing this to be a friend. Sure. You might wanna fix your. I think that the haircut you got is really bad.

I know. That's really, I'm really glad that my friend told me that. Now I could ask them to put the hair back. Thank you. Well, it's just, maybe it's fine. I'm sure it is. It's just looking a little, Go ahead.

I don't know, I was joking. Funny. Will you put my, can I see? Should have. What was it like before? Really like, I mean it was. It's just really pointy. Like how did it, you know what it is?

I'm not even, now I mean so serious. When guys I think first get the haircut, the way that the people style it is a little weird. So should I keep my hat on? Actually, it looks good now. Kaila, you have been pretty quiet. No, I like it. I'm being genuine.

I'm not even trying to make you feel better, Rick. I think it's a great haircut. The truth is that guys, no matter what, you always look the same. So it's all- Don't you wish that could be the case? For you? Well, it's just, it's like sad when guys get like

all particular about their hair. It's like, you look the same no matter what. You really do. This is a fun podcast. So yeah, I hear you. People should shower a lot. I was just going through it a little bit. And-

That's a good, that's a great excuse. She was not. She was living it up. She called me and she was like, this is the best vacation ever. And I just can't imagine someone on the best vacation ever. Being so unclean. Right.

Hair dripping with grease. And the only reason you probably showered is because you know you were seeing me today. That's interesting. Yeah, something like that. I knew I was gonna reenter society because vacation with baby and baby daddy, it just doesn't really matter, you know?

Are you... Are you... Oh, wait. But that doesn't mean we can't hear the crinkles. Stop it. Why would you wanna do that? I want flour. Rick, are you typically a flour giver?

No, I'm not typically a flour giver, but I'm not. I'm no more a flower giver or less than a scone giver. What would move you to bring someone flowers? I think I have an answer and I don't think it's gonna make me look bad, but it isn't the most romantic. Sometimes when there's a reason to give a gift, or when I notice a reason, congratulations, somebody's not feeling well, I'm thinking about somebody, I'm like, oh, I wanna show something, right? Sometimes flowers come to mind, not necessarily,

but when I see flowers, like today, I went to get you a scone and I saw the flowers. When I see flowers, I'm like, oh, that's nice. Flowers to me is like a card on a gift. It's not the gift, but it's something I tag along with a gift. Now that, I like. That is, that is, that's good. Because flowers are not a gift. Well, you don't love flowers. Apparently Kaila does. You like them?

I do like flowers. Do you want those? May I have them? Well, you could, they're nice. I picked them out specifically for you. Well, what's the right thing to do here? Do I keep them because they were given to me or? No, you don't want them, no.

Let me, let me look at them. Okay. They do look really well wrapped too. Alfred's, there's like a flower thing in there. I went for the scone and I stayed for the flowers. Oh my God, the smell does remind me of my dance recitals. I like the smell. Oh, roses.

It's very beautiful. Some roses. Some roses, great arrangement. Beautiful arrangement, I like the colors. I have decided that these are my flowers. Yes! And that as they are mine, I would now like to gift them to Kailua. Okay.

Thank you so much. You're welcome. Is this booze or books? I don't know, books? Books. Alvin, you wanna see something funny? So Alvin sometimes comes when I call him, and we say, Alvin, come here.

Oh, he dead. But when he doesn't, I was at home for six weeks, and we have cats, and when I call the cat over, he would always come over because he was jealous. So even now when I'm at home, if he doesn't come, I yell the cat's name and then he runs over to me. Oh, trickery, it does work. How do you feel as a doggy daddy?

I know you've been wanting this for a while. A long time. I love him so much. I love you so much, Bubba. And that's the answer. Yeah, are you different, are you changed? Clila says you're a better person now. I, it's, that's a very broad statement.

I feel like there's a part of you that has, that I've maybe never seen. And when I watch someone love something or someone in this way, it really moves me. That's all I have to say about that. I don't know if you're in fact a better person, but I love seeing you be like smoochy and cute and fatherly with Alvin.

I love feeling the desire to be smushy and cute. I love having something that makes me want to just do it. Yeah, there's a there's a word in Filipino that Americans didn't catch on for a long time and the word is not quite close. It's called gigil. Giga. Giga and it's cute aggression. It's called Giegel. Giegel. Giegel, and it's cute aggression. It's when something's so cute, you just wanna like kind of almost like bite it, eat it. Hmm. And I've grew up with this word, but then now like I'm seeing on social media, they're like, oh, it's this thing called cute aggression. I'm like, how is there not an English term for that?

And it's Giegel? Giegel. Giegel. Yeah, Giegel, G-I-G-I-L. Rick? Yeah, should we get started? Yep. What are you, how do you feel now that I'm a mother? G-I-G-I-L. Rick? Yeah, should we get started? Yep.

What are you, how do you feel now that I'm a mother? Like how is that landing on you? Good. Okay, good, next topic. How do you feel about Eric Griffin being a dad now? Next topic. Are you guys not friends? No, I love Eric, I'm just kidding.

You just hate his kid? No, I haven't, I'm just kidding. You just hate his kid? No, I haven't seen him actually in a while, I think probably because- One sec, how have you been? I've been, I've been poor to fair. Oh, that sounds like a French bird. Poor to fair. Poor to fair, I think that's how they rate surf

in the morning, poor to fair, fair to good. But poor to fair, yeah. But I'm okay. Do I seem okay? You've been showering? I've been showering and it's not helping my mentals. Something to consider. Yeah. Me? No, just like this obsession with the shower.

I'm all for a shower. You should shower, I get it. No, I'm on the extreme opposite end of where you guys are at because I shower excessively and I just need to always be in water. And that is a problem. So I am admitting that I too have a problem just on the other side of you guys.

I shower three times, twice, three times a day. And I have- I can't even take that information in. I cannot sleep unless I shower. I cannot sleep, I will be tossing and turning all night. It doesn't matter what I've done, how tired I am. I have to have my bath time, not my bath time, my shower time routine.

This is like a crutch you're living with. You think so? Yeah, I do. Question, are all three of us the younger sibling? Mm-hmm. I am, are you? How, what's your age difference with your brother? When we were in high school, it was two and a half years.

It's closer to four now. I feel like I've asked you that same question before and you've given the same answer and that's my bad. So I do. Most things are. Okay. But that sort of makes sense. I understand what you're trying to say. Do not give him that.

Esther, I'm telling you, because when you're younger and the eight, four years is a huge age gap. Yeah. And then as you get older, four years feels like a year or no gap at all. So in theory, you're talking about the feeling of it, how it feels. There's a gap in actual years and there's a feeling of the gap. Well, yes, there's the feeling of the gap,

which is actually why Esther would exclusively shop there until she was 28, is that correct? Baby gap was a big part of my life, gap kids. For the younger siblings in the crew, myself included. What about you guys? Are any of you younger siblings? I think we all are. Everyone.

Yeah. From all world. Well, that makes sense. Youngers, the youngest usually gets into creative fields, but I have been living with this thought lately. I didn't realize it until I had a baby, but like, I think a lot about if I was to have another, the FOMO that that one might have from the life that we're all living without that one. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that I grew up with all this

FOMO hearing about the life that my family had before I was born. And so I feel really sensitive to that. And I'm curious, cause Dave is the younger and he's like, I've never thought about that in my life. Have you guys ever, were you ever like jealous of the time your older sibling got? I think yours is a little different cause there's eight years of them having lived

this whole life together before you came along. Yeah. For me it was hardly a year. How many years is it now? It's still eight, that's how time works. You just love saying eight because you love to eat. There's something there. But do you have that at all? You don't have any FOMO from when you were,

before you were born. No. You've never, that's never, you never thought about that. No. I haven't either. What? Is this, am I in the Twilight Zone?

What? I think so. You compare a lot though. You're a comparer. What do you mean? Yeah, how do you, how does that apply to this? Well, I don't think it would bother you as much if you weren't comparing them without you, whether it being, were they happier without you?

Were they doing stuff that you should have been doing? No, I don't think they were happier without me. I just, I just, I'm like, oh, I was, I didn't get to be there for that. Whatever the thing might be that made you happier, you could have been happy or whatever it might be, but think of it this way. How old are you now? 40? How old are you really? 40, how old are you really?

36. Okay, there you go. You would have been 44. What do they tell you about that time that you feel like I wish I had been there for that? They were happy, things were clean. I just, first of all, I need to know if anyone in the comments has this as well. We pull up the comments real quick.

Were more grandparents alive for her. She had more time with grandparents. She, they lived in different cities. It was just my sister and my mom. And so they talk about that. And so I just grew up feeling like there was all this life that I know about that I wasn't a part of, but my whole family was there. What about all the stuff that happened before your sister?

What about the 70s, do you feel FOMO of that? No, because no one knew each other. None of the immediate four were connected. Well, they say like Gabor Mate says that no one gets the same parents. Like not even, no one, like who you are with Ace will not be who you are with your younger one. Everyone gets a separate set same parents. Like not even no one like who you are with ace will not be who you are with your younger one. Everyone gets a separate set of parents. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. It's based on circumstance where their head space is like where they're at financially,

where they're at in their work. Like everyone experience with a child. I think so. Wow. And so it's like even for my sister and, like we think we got the same parent because we're only a year apart. Like we were treated so differently. So no one here is haunted by the years their family had without them. I will say this, I'm not haunted by that. I'm haunted by the fact that I was a shorter sister. Truly.

And by that I mean my mom could not physically hurt my sister anymore, because she was like five foot 10 by the time she was 12. And I was always a smaller one, the smaller target. So I'm a little bit like salty about just not growing up to be a six foot tall girl. Because then I feel like I would have been more intimidating. And she wouldn't have hurt me as much. Do you not have height? No, I have that too. I have all of it.

Your sister is tall. Taller than me, prettier than me, yeah. Rick? Can't lie. Your siblings, how do you feel? Um, you know we fought a bit, but uh, I'm, you know, I don't really think about that. I don't really, I never even... Wow, you must be better than us that you're, you don't think about that. I don't really, I never even. Wow, you must be better than us.

That you're, you don't think about that. Maybe. Maybe healthier, healthier for sure. Well, yeah. Less introspective, dumb, it could be those two. Your hair looks flat. You look like a witch. You really do.

You look like a witch. You look like a witch and all the witches around you look a lot more like witches. So they send you out into the non-witch world thinking that like, it's fine, but you keep forgetting to not wear your pointy hat. And it's like, you take your hat off and it's like, oh, you're passing for a witch.

But then like you start to talk and then you don't shower. And then you're insulting. This was a bad fucking idea. Let's switch gears. Which show or the coming here? Coming here, man. I have realized. If I'm not in a like a mood where I'm like ready to do this

and I'm just relying on you carrying something, it's just going to be we're going to be talking about. You know, you don't miss out on the years that you weren't born when your sister was spending more time with your grandma. I'm the idiot. And it's like, all right, this is your show. Wait, Esther, are you nostalgic for any other time? Like I'm-

Yes, when the McRib comes back. Isn't that a thing? Isn't that really a thing? No, no, no, don't answer the question because it's not some stupid thing that you thought of. Yeah, okay. I have a real question. Is it Mick or Mack?

It's McRib? It's not McRib? It's McRib. Mick or Mack? Like McDonald's is not McDonald's? What is she saying? Mack. It's McDonald's.

Mc, Mc, McArthur. McArthur. That's M-A-C. I'm confused. Rick helped me out. Are you ever nostalgic for a time or is that like so upsetting to you that I would ask you such a question of simple mind?

You must be in a lot of pain. I know. All the time. You're defensive before somebody attacks. You're just writing stories. You just said that you wish you didn't come here. I would never waste a wish on that. And you're calling me sad and whatever you just,

but you spent all summer on Instagram being sad. Oh, do you want to talk about me or do you want to talk about you? Because it seems like you're doing a tit for tat and we could talk about my sadness. I'm not doing a tit for tat. You're doing a thing where you're... I need a, can we have the banana break now? Can we get our cauldron? No, no, can we have the banana break now? I'm not doing a different, you're doing a thing where you're...

I need a, can we have the banana break now? Can we get our cauldron? No, no, can we have the banana break now? I have a real question for you both, by the way. Seeing as how there's an impending wedding around the corner, we don't know. What? There's, it's wedding season, right? Are you a guy who's going to request the prenup?

Of course he is. I don't know. I heard something interesting about prenups. Tell me. So there is, it's more a perspective, but the law as it is by default is a version of a prenup. There are still rules when you get married and divorced, this is how you split the assets.

There's a list of laws. In California. And I'm sure they're all, wherever you get married, whatever the laws are, that's the list of laws. I'm sure there might be different ones in different states, different countries, but there is a, it's literally a contract, right?

I love him. Did you see how he got in my hand like that? Yeah, I did. So it's a contract. So there already is a version of a prenup. When you do a prenup, it's not adding something that wasn't there. It's just amending it and customizing it

to the relationship. So I understand the want for them. I am, if I married somebody who had a lot more money than me and they wanted to do it, I wouldn't be offended. I would be willing to have that conversation and figure it out. I don't know. I don't have the kind of money where I'm even really,

that matters. I don't think it's the most offensive thing. I don't think it's an offensive thing. I think it's case by case. I read this one good argument for prenups and it's not just about the money thing. It's also power of attorney. So should anything happen to you medically,

who's going to make the decision, um, about whether or not, you know, the, you, they pulled a plug or not. And it actually goes, it differs. They deferred to the spouse. Of course. Right. So, of course, no way. I wouldn't want my partner making that decision for me.

It, that has to be my sister. But that's the thing. That's where it's case by case. Some people would want their partner. That's why I think prenups are just take a look at this default boilerplate contract that is marriage and then make the changes where you need. Maybe it's about money. Maybe it's about power of attorney.

Maybe it's about who comes first, whatever the thing might be. Figure it out and then, you know, make the marriage custom to you. I don't need the state telling me how my marriage is going to work. I got enough issues at home. Wait, Dave is Dave is making your decision? Well, we're not technically married yet. Yeah, but you know, he'll, he'll come around. What?

But you feel best about him making that medical decision for you? I just, I kind of have no preference. If I'm out, maybe one of you guys, Alvin can do it. I don't, it's, who cares? I'm not really there. Yeah, but that's where it gets really hairy. People think that, you're out.

It doesn't matter to you, but then it gets really funky with- You're out, what does that mean? She's out, she's in a different realm. She's possibly dying. And that's where it gets. Is this why you're so sad? She's not dying, she's quite healthy.

Right? I would say you're glowing and you look fantastic if I meant it. Are you doing your impression of when guys meet you for the first time? Are you doing your impression of when guys meet you for the first time? I am in a moment. That's okay. Can I get a riper banana?

That's not nice. She's postpartum. Do you want this one? Uh, no, it's still too green. I will be taking this one home. I just need something a little less green. Lips ever get chapped to the point where like you could feel it and then you get it with your tooth and you pull it and you're like're like stop and then it bleeds. Yeah. Yeah. Oh

Actually, this one's fine. Thank you so much. I'm sorry I asked Yeah all the time I rip my lip skin all the time, you know what I actually I think you're right Rick I don't think we should have done this because all I did Was bring up a topic that I remind me what it was because I was just playing around and something triggered you. Oh, he's gonna... Really, remind me what it was. No, forget it, forget it, you're right. I was just saying the same stuff I always say when I'm here, it's like, oh, these topics... Do you think I'm not also just playing around? I don't know. I'm confused. I think that, I think that my default is playful and yours is kind of just like,

I think that I think that my default is playful and yours is kind of just like Mr. But why do you get to be always believe that you're playing and I don't I'm not asking I didn't know you were playing and you tell me you are than that think that that was really funny. I Think you're really funny. I think you're really pretty. Thank you. So you give it another try. It's not that bad Hmm Are we bringing water around town in that these days? Yeah, I'm a jar girl now. That's my new personality. Even with water.

Explain. Well, not specifically a jar, but the only time I'll drink out of something like this is if like I have no, I don't have something with me. Plastic. Give me glass or give me tin. That was Shakespeare. Yeah, I think so.

But yeah, I know that you're not much of a plasticer either. Me? Yeah. How do you know that? You've told me. Oh. I didn't know it was exclusively jars, but I like jars. I have a lot of jars now.

I like drinking out of jars. I do too. And so you're just a room temperature water frowner. For sure, yeah. Me too, I've always been room temperature. But Dave gives me a hard time about my jar collection. Why? Because he says that I should, that it's crazy.

Actually, one time he said, if you keep those peanut butter jars and you try to put them on our flight back home with us, we have to break up. How many jars do you have? Not that many. How many would be too many? 80?

No. Oh, fine. Okay. You have a perfect size for each thing you have in mind? Like this is the jar for water only. No, no, no, no, no. This is the jar for? My collection is,

it's not where I want it to be, I'll just say that. Is yours? Why don't you move it? No, I don't mean it that way. I, do you know what I'm saying? Okay. I'm so glad you're here. It's good to see you. So we were talking on the phone today

and we were talking about something. We're like, let's save it for the podcast. And that was that you have been feeling ugly and unfunny for years. I did not say that. I'm just telling you what I think. And then you had a set yesterday, was it? Yeah.

That was really good. Yeah. And it made you feel still ugly, but funnier. Yes. Why do you think it was so good? You had a little silly energy? I actually have a, I think I, okay. I don't want you to slip.

I was so overtired from taking care of Ace and having a set at night. And I just had this breakthrough where I was so overtired from taking care of Ace and having a set at night. And I just had this breakthrough where I was like, I'm gonna, this is a new reality, you're gonna be tired, let's still do things, you know, do you have to cancel just because you're tired? And I think being a little overtired brought out a silliness.

Oh, I know that. Really? Say more. Oh, whatever. Okay, like, and I just got on stage and was so overtired, silly mode, and I feel like I almost tapped into the person I'm supposed to have been on stage this whole time, but haven't been able to be. But now I'm like, how do I,

how do you always revisit that? But that's the goal now for me and my creative career. You just care less, you feel more free. It's like tapped in, in the flow. I have a, believe it or not, I am quite introspective. And I think about this stuff all the time. I always think about when you're tired, how do you feel? There's something about, it's not about being tired,

in my opinion, for me at least, it's not about being tired that lets you locked in, it's that when you're tired, you don't have the energy for the stuff that's not in front of you. And which is part kind of the definition of being present. Oh my God. So it's almost like, is it, if you're tired, you don't, you can't really have anxiety or other thoughts

No, I don't know You can but there is something about like You ever get really emotional Something very sad for example Maybe you could be very sad and you're crying and then you get a little numb and like, you're still grieving, you're still upset,

whatever the thing might be, but you're just like, you have like a moment where you're in the center of the storm at least, and you're just kind of numb. That is where I feel like anxiety could kind of go away for a little, cause you just can't feel anything anymore. Being tired, I don't think is that because you can still feel stuff. Being tired is like, like when you're really tired, it's just like, when you wake up in the middle of the night, you have to go to the bathroom and you're

not paying attention to stuff. Yeah. Like you're in the, you're in a flow state. Yeah. If you're peeing, if that's why you went to the bathroom, I mean. I do that in bed. That's what Dave likes. Really?

Is that a real, like a- Aren't you gonna call out that was my first joke in the episode? You usually like to do that? Calling out your first jokes? What? I never call out the first joke, I call out the first time you made us laugh.

Oh. And you know, how much time do we have left? I never call it the first joke. I call it the first time you made us laugh. Oh. And how much time do we have left? Half time. Wait. Finding cheats and tricks to be present is like stuff I think about all the time. Give me more then, what do you have? Self-acceptance. This is in life too, but we're talking just going out on stage because this is easier in stage than it is in life. Self-acceptance.

This is in life too, but we're talking just going out on stage, because this is easier in stage than it is in life. Like if you could accept what, like, you know, sometimes maybe you don't feel funny or you don't want to do certain material or there's somebody in the audience that you. Yes, all these things. So all of those things are, lead to you questioning yourself and being unsure, which is the opposite of accepting what you are.

So there's like, I've said this on my podcast before, and this was kind of like my introduction into being able to do this thing. I was going up at the improv, I don't know how long ago, 10 plus years ago. I remember I was so nervous. I was having one of those days where it's like, I don't know what I'm doing.

I'm not, I don't wanna do this. And I was like, sad. It wasn't even nervous I don't know what I'm doing. I'm not, I don't want to do this. And I was like, sad. It wasn't even nervous. I was like, I'm embarrassed. I'm sad. I don't know what I'm doing. My hands were like this and my hands were sweating. And I would go like this and the host went up

and I went like this and like the host was still going and my hands were sweating again. And like, I had to keep wiping and I didn't want to wipe my hands anymore. And then I just like, I'm just going to go up with my hands sweating and be nervous. And I went up and I was nervous and I felt no need to hide it.

I don't mean like I was leaning in and be like, I'm nervous and fuck you. You know, it was just like, this is what I was supposed to be. I'm shaking, I'm nervous, whatever. And I was still nervous, but I didn't feel any shame about it. And like, it really like was a perspective shift in so many things in my life. And every time I go on stage after, whenever I'm feeling a certain way, I'm just feeling that way.

I don't like it. I don't want to feel that way, but I am. And with that, there's no like questioning and second guessing and worried, oh, I need to do this or I shouldn't do this. I'm just gonna go up and maybe I'll have a nervous set today. Have you been able to be consistent with accepting that? Like since then, like this whole career trajectory

you've been on? Overall, I think so. But there's definitely times where it's a lot easier and sometimes where I struggle. But when I struggle, I will say to myself, you ever get, I'll go back to that in a second. Do you ever like, you're about to go on stage and you're nervous and so you actually get tired?

You're not already tired, but your nerves make you tired. Does that ever happen to you? No. Like an adrenaline dump? Nerves don't make me tired. They almost, they energize me. Sometimes they do, but then there's sometimes I get so tired, then yeah, I guess it's an adrenaline dump.

But like, I'm tired, I can't do this. And I say, Rick, you've been, this is what happens. You get tired sometimes. It's okay. And then, yeah, I think. But I think you're explaining something that it really helped me get over my crippling anxiety when I didn't want to leave the house for two years, which is like, it's not the fear that's, that's debilitating. It's the fear of the fear.

So it's like, like you said, it's like, once you accept that you are shaking, once you accept that it's a shitty feeling, that it's probably not gonna go away, you can't will it to go away, you have an acceptance of that, then you are able to kind of just sit with the discomfort of it all, is a lot better than fearing that that's gonna happen.

Cause that's when it kind of avalanches into like a panic attack for me. Because I'm like, I'm in public. I'm about to have a panic attack. Oh my God, where do I go sit so no one sees me? And I'm, instead of just being like, all right, I'm feeling shitty. It's probably gonna, you know,

stick around for a little bit. And then just, you know, ride with it. Get to know it. Yeah, a friend of mine once said, if you're worried about that kind of stuff, you lose twice. Like there's a negative feeling and then there's the added thing

where you're judging it or trying to change it. Yeah, exactly. It's funny, I can hear these things time and time again. I hear them, I go, yes, I agree. And then the anxiety is still. You gotta find your tools. I find interesting about you though is cause you do have anxiety

and you know, I know we talk about this a lot, but for you, it's almost like you have compulsive thoughts. It's not even that you're necessarily in a state of fear, it's like you have this like, it's like very intrusive thoughts that just don't leave. Yeah, yeah. Right? Isn't that anxiety?

I mean, it's part of it, but a lot of it too can be like, you know, OCD, anxiety. They all kind of like go hand in hand together. So it's more of like repetitive bad things that are happening in your head. Spiraling or something. Yeah. What was going on that eight years before I was born.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, obsessive thoughts is like in the same category as OCD. What you said about accepting yourself, no matter what on stage does feel in line with the overtired state I was in last night, because I was overtired so I couldn't. You accepted that. Fuck it.

I'm tired. I didn't have time to micromanage what I was going to do on stage mentally, which is like so funny to me because that has never helped. Micromanaging what I'm doing on stage has never helped. And it's shocking to me because when you think about performance, you think you need to be in your best physical state or whatever, but how am I in my most tired?

That's my best set. Like it doesn't make sense, but it does based on what we're saying. I think a fair amount of comedians would disagree with this, but I'm happy with my point of view on this and I wanna keep it that way. But like you're like, oh, you have to be in your best mental state, et cetera.

My mom said, I was at home and I was doing a show. My mom goes, be funny. And I know what she meant. She meant just have a good set, be funny, whatever. But for whatever it was, I took it as her actually saying something literal and sincere to me. And instead of just saying, okay, I go, well, like that's not in my control.

Like the only thing I could control is to be present. Like if I'm funny, it'll be because I've worked on this a whole bunch before and I have this skill set. But like, to go up there and to try and be funny is like so much pressure. And then if you don't get a laugh, like, do they not like me? But if your job is to go up there and just be,

not have all that stuff that doesn't matter in your head and just be present, then it's like, I'm a funny guy. I think I'll be funny. But the idea of being funny is a lot of pressure. I totally agree. And this is like getting so into the nitty gritty of comedy on a podcast, which is like, kill me, it's so embarrassing, but I'll just, whatever.

The whole like comedy store, mitty thing is like what it says below the cover booth, like go on stage for three minutes or whatever you get at the open mic. Don't, it's not about, it says something more eloquently of like, it's not about being funny, it's about being yourself. And I feel like that's why I was always drawn

to the comedy store because- Because of that saying? Yeah, because the whole thing, I feel like you're surrounded by comedians who are like, you gotta be funny, you have to write the funniest, most mathematically perfect joke. And I'm like, that's, and you're gonna make a joke about how I'm not funny,

that's fine, but like, that's not my path. My path is not to be the funny, it's just to be the most myself and that's how the comedy will come. So I feel like- It will. You're kind of saying a similar thing. But that's always been your vibe though, Esther.

That's not funny. No, since the day I met you, you've been, as like your identity is so clear to me. What you are is so specific and only you, like I've never met anyone like you. I've never met anyone with this, even like from the same ilk as you. You're so specifically you that,

I know you don't like compliments, but I think that's why people are drawn to you. You have always just been true to who you are. Thank you, that's very kind. And the not showering for 10 days and the not apologizing for that. I think that it only comes from a place of- The bad breath.

Yes, for years. The armpit smell. The odors from nether regions, you can say it. Thicken balls. I think that that comes from truly just feeling like I'm not gonna be a better writer or smarter than anyone else. Like what I have is like pulling what's real inside of me or whatever.

I don't know if you feel that way, but this is, we're getting to, let's get away from this. We could get away from it or we could stay. But do you ever, do you ever like seek out being tired and then going on stage that way? No. No. My version of that is getting high.

Like if- Oh, interesting. I'm very, when I'm high, I'm locked in, baby. And it doesn't mean that's necessarily better or worse. And I don't need to, I'm not only locked in when I'm high, but there are some times where I feel, I think I get like, I don't drink. And I think I get like, some people will have a drink

before they go up on stage. It's like, oh, you're not in a place that you wanna be and that drink will help you. I get it. I just don't wanna have to rely on that. But there are absolutely times where it's like, I don't have it in me tonight, and I'll just do it. Or I don't have it in me tonight,

and I'm like, I'm gonna have an edible. And it just. I can't remember if I said this to Kaila or on here, or if it was to you, but I recently went back to the DC Improv for the first time, and I hadn't been there in a few years. I have to say, that club is so great. And if you guys want to go September 28th,

I will be at the DC Improv. That's Saturday, check it out. So jealous, I love it there. Do you want to come host? Like for the restaurant upstairs? No. But that was one of my tour stops last fall. And I hadn't, I had, for some reason,

I've always had to cancel like for the show or whatever. And I love it there. It's amazing. So I hadn't been there in like four years, like it was just a long time. Sure. I get there. The waitress is like, oh my God, like I remember, you know, and she's like, it's so good to see you.

I'm like, it's so good to see you. I'm like, it's so good to see you. And she goes, I remember last, in front of Dave, because I had Dave with me, I remember last time you were here, you ordered the Oreo cheesecake, but you asked for it to go because you wanted to eat it in your hotel room by yourself. And I was like, I can't believe

you're just outing me like that. I thought you would like to hear that on-brand story. People remember that kind of stuff. It just blows my mind. I'm sorry, I can't believe you're just outing me like that. I thought you would like to hear on brand story. You know, I people remember that kind of stuff. It just blows my mind. I'm sorry. Go ahead. This is something that that's something I would absolutely remember about you, because I would assume it about you. I'm like, you like the kind of kind of witch that when she goes, goes to a hotel, she brings some Oreo cheesecake.

You know, wait, I would do the same as why, because in order for me to fully enjoy something that I've been looking forward to, I cannot have an audience. No, you need to be so private. I need to be the biggest pig I can be. Is that why you prefer to masturbate instead of having sex?

Did I say that? You just strike me as that kind of woman. Because it's true. Yeah, you look like you like to come alone. That's so not true. I like to come alone. Yeah, good merch. I mean, sometimes, sometimes I do love to come alone,

but I know I typically like a warm body. Well, put up a clip. Of me coming alone. There's so many. Is that a thing that's been going around now? I don't know about it. Yeah. I haven't been keeping up with podcast stuff.

No, but I know exactly what you mean. If it's something that I've been, for instance, this week, my two big treats that I'm allowing myself because I plan my big treats is mango sticky rice from this Thai market. And the second one is from Car Displaced in Pasadena and it's their chocolate croissants and croissant. Croissant.

Croissant. I have some, you don't want it, I'm gonna have it. But it's a chocolate one? It's a chocolate one. Is it from Carr though? Oh. I'm telling you guys, please Esther, can I bring you one? Yeah. Are you kidding?

Okay, so those are my two this week. Do you plan your treats ahead of time? A little bit, like- She has them in her pocket. Well, here's what I'll say about being a woman in my 30s versus my 20s is now that I'm more mature, I have more life experience, you save the treat for the really good treat.

Uh-huh. Yes. Of course. I know, but I didn't always know that. You can't waste it on the- When you're young, you could afford to waste it. Exactly. I'm not gonna eat that.

I'll get donuts tonight. Exactly, and from anywhere, right? Like when you're younger, you can get donuts from anywhere. But when you're this age, I do think you have to curate your treats, the timing, who you're gonna be with, and obviously it's gonna be me alone, coming alone, eating the croissant alone. And it has to be this way. It's a very, it's a very

specific experience now in my head. I can't just like grab things as I go, that looks good. I'm not having it right then and there. Yeah, you need to be a little more planned out. I will say though that I, because it can get disorderly for me to plan a sneak meal by myself, so I try not to do that anymore because then I get into really scary territory. Oh, because you call it a sneak meal. It's like, it's just the shame. What's scary territory?

What do you mean, like endangered? Disordered. No, like disordered, like this is bad. I'm sneaking away to do this bad thing And I feel shameful about it and so a little self-awareness, too What do you mean you're eating chicken tendies and and he's in a soda um I just mean that My fantasy. It's like a drug binge. Like that I'm like burger, fries, milkshake. I would often like go to swingers by myself, get that.

Like that was kind of like my celebration meal, whatever. What kind of shake? Vanilla or Oreo. And- I'm a strawberry with Oreos guy. That's insane, but I'm curious. That is a really fun combo. Thank you. I now I'm like, it's healthier

to enjoy that meal with someone else. Like I. I now I'm like, it's healthier to enjoy that meal with someone else. Like I wanna do what you're doing, but I don't because. Because yours for you, it's sneaking. It's naughty. I think for me, it's more like. Freedom. Freedom. I don't want anyone talking to me.

You don't strike me as someone that has a history with binge eating. I do. I'm one of the worst binge eaters ever. There used to be a time when I had friends like intervene and pull, like rip things off my hand. They used to have to hide food from me because I am the extreme binger.

But did you ever like- And purger. Order pizza and cinnamon sticks? Yes, all combo. But no one else could know that you ordered them and you ate them outside? Yep, and then purged it after, because the secret was always-

And then you threw the garbage away in the neighbor's garbage. Yep, and the only remnants would be ants around the toilet. Okay. Ugh, I've done- You're gonna miss your showers. I've done the full binge and purge. That was like my whole thing in my early 20s.

Just to be clear, I never said I purged. Before we change subjects, I wanna tell you my thoughts on this. Okay. Go ahead, naughty boy. Because I also binge and need to have multiple meals ordered in case when I'm done eating, if I'm hungry, I need to know I have something

and then I'll just finish it. What I don't have is the same type of need to be alone. I love being, like, if I'm in a relationship and I'm sitting on the couch and we're gonna watch something and I'm tired or I'm not hungry or whatever the thing might be and she goes, do you wanna order something? I get so excited.

We're going to an amusement park. I'm in, what are we doing? Looking through it is fun. Picking stuff out. What are you going to have? Oh, I want to get this. I'm going to order from here. Let's figure out what you want.

I'll get from two places. And then it comes and I'm just, I love it. I love eating with somebody. I love sharing it with somebody. That is, yes. Not sharing my food, but sharing the moment. Oh, wow. You're not a food share.

Are you someone who does not allow people to pick off your plate? It's case by case, like a prenup. But what I will say is I'm the type of person that will bring multiple pastries and treats so people could have what they want. I just know I want something too. So hey, I'll bring you, I'll buy you,

I'll get you, enjoy. But if you're like, I don't want such and such,such I'm like, okay, but I don't want to share mine Yeah, I get that. Okay. I will say though At least in my last relationship. It was the first time I don't know if it's because of the way the relationship was and I wanted to share more or just I've gotten a little bit older I'm almost 30 and I I didn't mind giving her food, my food sometimes, but it wasn't like you could just take it.

So in a restaurant, let's suppose it's a family style. I'll say everyone you order your thing, I'm getting my own food. Interesting. I say that before the rate even comes. So let's suppose we go to Newport Seafood. Newport Seafood's my favorite spot in San Gabriel. Love seafood, but they have a whole lot.

My dad does that. I know. And he's Jewish. Really? Yeah, my stepdad. Wait, your stepdad is Jewish? Yeah. Back to my Newport Seafood.

We have family style only, order the walnut shrimp, order the whole lobster, order everything. You're gonna order your own entree, your own thing of rice. If side dishes, if we get a whole bunch of sides, I'll have some of the side stuff, but I want my own entree. Oh, interesting, we can never dine.

Why? We can't. I think that's the thought of it is giving me anxiety, like I might accidentally fuck up and touch your food and it might be a thing. You won't. I will make sure you don't touch my food. How? Because you're not gonna get close to my food

or else, stop! Oh, okay. Esther? My whole life I was this, this guy. Mine only, don't touch, but since being transformed by motherhood, I... I get that, That makes sense. It is different.

It's not just about, it's not specifically about the sharing. There is them, I wanna make sure I have enough. And that's why I order extra. But it's also not everybody is the same with their hands. And like the way they touch stuff. No, that I'm so sure. So if somebody wants something,

I say like either no, or I'm willing to give, but like, let me put it on your plate. Interesting. I find it so, yes, the germ stuff is definitely weird, but nothing makes me feel so close to someone than them reaching over and getting a piece off of my plate and feeling comfortable enough to do that. There's something sexual about that.

I'm telling you, my last relationship, that was the only time that I was like, so I never understood it, and I do understand it like, yeah, take, I like that you want this from me, take it. So maybe that's like an intimacy of sharing food that you can only do with a romantic partner. I was not, yeah, I mean, with one romantic partner. I was never able to do it before,

but I've also ordered a lot more food than I used to. Podcast is doing well. It's so funny, like I can't picture like having a boyfriend and trying to take like, and him not wanting to share his food with me. Like I think. I need, I want to make myself clear here. Was it a food scarcity issue?

No. Or just germ issue? I don't eat seafood. I don't eat a lot of things. So a lot of times when you go places, I could only eat one or two things that everybody shares. And even when I order my own stuff, I need to modify it a certain way.

So this is all I could have. So I don't even want this. I don't eat that. I don't eat that. I don't eat that. I have to say, I really, really relate to this, like hardcore. Like I almost feel like I have this disease more than you have.

Like I'm like this. In fact, like I would have so much anxiety when you go out with a group and it's all sharing. That's like, that would be hard for, that was hard for me for a long time. I don't eat cheese. People get pizzas and they do the stuff and like I could peel the cheese off a pizza, but I traditionally, I'm gonna get my own pizza

without cheese so I could have toppings. Do you ever have cheese? No, hate it. You hate it. could have toppings. Do you ever have cheese? No hate it You hate it. Yeah, it's not even like a Cheese, I peel the cheese off of pizza and I'm really good at it I used to not be as good because I was younger if I accidentally had I realized I tasted a bit of cheese I gag hate All you never have pizza. I love pizza just without cheese not even Prince

So good, but I don't eat cheese. But Prince pizza's so good. So good, have you had Prince pizza? I like sauteed garlic, pepperoncini, pineapples sometimes. Oh, you do like pineapples on your pizza. People really give you shit about- I feel like everyone is so hung up on their idea of pizza.

If you want pineapples in it, who gives a shit? It's delicious. Put some pineapple on there. Yeah, who cares? I like pineapple with pepperoni. I like that you're eating fruit. I was in Cleveland and we would get drinks sometimes, a chai latte or something. And I drive, my mom is in the passenger side and my mom is physically expressive.

A lot of this, she needs to get something out of her bag. You should do a one man show and be your mother. That was really good. I lot of this. She needs to get something out of her bag. You should do a one man show and be your mother. That was really good. I'm not kidding. Thank you. I have been doing, I have some, I got a fair amount of, my mom came to a show of mine in San Francisco and I did like 20 minutes on my mom and I realized, oh I could talk about

my mom. And I'm like, I have some great material with this stuff now and she came up on stage with me at the end and like did some stuff. And I'll tell you, it's honest to goodness. And you know, I don't say that lightly. I would do a two person show with my mom and I think it would be unbelievable.

I think that that's every Jewish boy's dream and that you should do that. So anyway, my mom will check something and instead of just checking a thing, her arm, her phone or something, she's always hitting my straw. She's always touching the straw. So I now drive like this and it would make me think of like,

oh, you'd be scared of touching the wrong thing. I've gotten really good. Like if I see my mom is moving, I cover my straw. So I'm just really good at it. So you could eat with me. Oh gosh, but that would really hurt my feelings. If you covered his straw? Yeah, it would.

Or like put a little blockade around his plate of food would really hurt my feelings. Or even to stop, this is just for me. Or I would cry. There's something- Well, I'll put some on your plate. Oh, that's great. There's something as a woman about like a man

denying his food with me or something that is like, oh, you can't. What if, what if? How could I have sex with you? What if, well, I like, oh, you can't. What if, what if? How could I have sex with you? What if, well, I mean, who are you telling? Take my food so I don't have to. But what if we go out and I'm still, you still get everything you want, we're ordering stuff,

I'm gonna treat you, I'm gonna even say, when you say you don't want fries, and I'm like, I'm having a fry day and I don't wanna share any of mine. And you say, can I have a couple? And I say, I don't want fries. And I'm like, I'm having a fry day and I don't want to share any of mine. And you say, can I have a couple? And I say, I don't want to share any. And you're like, fine, I'll still order extra fries. I get that. Why are you repeating this over and over again?

Because you're saying not sharing food with you is not the same as not eating off somebody's plate. No, because I might decide. I might say we're on a date, we're sit down, we order. I didn't, I understand that. I didn't do my due diligence and let you know what time I wanted two fries. Is this how you're going to talk to me on the date? Yeah. And down, we order. I didn't, I understand that. I didn't do my due diligence and let you know what at a time I wanted two fries. Is this how you're gonna talk to me on the date? Yeah, and then the fries come and I'm like, oh.

Yeah, I will give you a few off of my plate and then order more. I just don't want you touching mine and taking more because I won't have enough fries. I have a sandwich, I have fries. What if we're sexually intimate? We're not. But if we were, you wouldn't let me touch your fucking fries?

If I have to eat three bites of a sandwich without eating fries between each bite, I'm not gonna come tonight. What? I need to have it rationed out where I could put enough fries on my sandwich to eat it, to have enough to cleanse my palate, to dip the fries in something without the sandwich.

And when I'm done with the sandwich, it's around when I'm done with the fries. If I'm done with the fries and have a half a sandwich left, what are we doing? So I'm gonna order more fries. You are so not masculine. Okay. Well, you know what?

You are. Thank you. Yeah, it's not masculine to take care of the person, to offer them what they want and to know what you want. I eat fries two to three days a week. And when it's Friday, it's guy day. And this guy is eating his fries. But if I went out to you, if I was,

let's say we're on fucking Mars and I would fuck you, okay? I would know just by looking at your teeth, even if you say you don't want fries, I'll order you two orders. I will also get my own. I'm gonna make sure you get your fries. And if they come and you want more of mine, I'll say, yes, I'll order fries right away.

And I know I'll slow down and I won't start my second half of the sandwich. I'm very pragmatic. I also know what I want and what I don't want. Pragmatism, I think is where the hitch is in this conversation. Great movie. I I love hitch. I just rewatched it.

The pragmatism of it all is that I don't feel Allegra coal. Which is a allergy medicine. But also it means like happy, right? If you name your baby Allegra, that's okay. Giggle. Giggle, I take Allegra every day. Anyways, that's not my point. My point is, I understand what you're saying. Would you share your Allegra with somebody? I would.

I would share anything with anyone I love. And it's not so much that you're pragmatic and giving me what I need. It's like, it kind of stops the closeness of us. Yes. I'm like, I have access to everything you have. You can have everything I have. I have a great take on this. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, go ahead. And just so you know, I would not fuck you on Mars. Okay. Well, I'm not gonna lie. I would not fuck you on Mars. I would not fuck you on Mars. I would not fuck you on Mars.

I would not fuck you on Mars. I would not fuck you on Mars. I would not fuck you on Mars. I would not fuck you on Mars. I would not fuck you on Mars. I would not fuck you on Mars. I would not fuck you on Yeah, I have a great take on this. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, go ahead. And just so you know, I would not fuck you on Mars. Oh. So I will turn you down. You won't even hike up a mountain.

You're not gonna go to another planet. I get to know you, and now I know one of your things is, hey, it makes me feel close if whatever the thing might be. Now I know it's not just about my fries This is how you feel close. I know I'm going to change the way I'm now going to order differently how Well depends on what that thing is. I would have to learn over time the fry thing. For example, I will always order two fries I'll always say hey, do you want some fries? This is wasteful though. Like let's say we're married Oh, I don't throw food. I will eat it. I know how to eat a fries even.

So you'll get a stomach ache and hurt yourself. If it's Friday, I'll- Esther, I'm on a side this. Yes, you don't waste throw away food. I don't throw away food. You get sick. You're gonna eat two orders of fries. You're gonna eat two orders of fries.

First of all, you guys are taller than me. So you're speaking from a different place of privilege. Yeah, but you probably eat the same amount of calories. Yeah, but if I go, I can't go overboard just to go overboard. Like that would ruin my day. I'm not gonna just eat them all at the restaurant and just shove them so I don't have to throw it away. I'll take them to go.

I'm always gonna be hungry later. You eat leftovers, that's kind of also not masculine. I love leftovers. Esther, now I'm jumping on Rick's side. You don't eat leftovers? No, I'm just kidding. Of course she does. I literally, I thought she was looking for cans

when she needed money. She was eating out of the dumpster. Do you remember when you were living up on Hollywood Boulevard, right before we did that pilot, and you were, I thought you were making a joke and you went through because your pizza box was closed and you ate the pizza out of the pizza box? Kind of remember.

Well, I just made that up, but I knew she had done that. Well, you know about the frozen yogurt. What's with the frozen yogurt? Nevermind. Come on. I'm sorry. No, forget it, move on. What's the frozen yogurt?

No, just the night when we went to Menchie's, that's all. Oh, yeah. That made sense to me. Yeah, okay. We went to Casa Vega first and there was a group of us and my parents were there. The last time I was invited to Rick's birthday was like 10 years ago.

I've had every, I think that was the last time I've been in LA. I'm in Ohio for my birthdays all the time. We went to Casa Vega and then it's right next to Menchie's and we went in and Esther wanted, this has been your dancing days. I know you still dance, but Esther used to just spin and dance and she was fun.

She used to be fun. And you were nice and like, I don't know. I just got it back then. And she went into Menchies and she was just gonna get a little something, but she wanted to try a flavor. And she either had this intentionally or organically realized that if she just tries enough flavors, she doesn't have to buy anything.

And she would just do all that. It reminds me of that, you know that Sebastian Mascalko joke at Pinkberry? Yes, no. When I heard it, which was after that, I think it's so funny. And when I've heard it a few times, I just think of you, what you did, I'm for.

Sebastian's talking about people and I get his point of view. When you're at Menchie's, you're doing it yourself. If you know, just everyone can still get their stuff. But his joke is like, a woman just wanted to keep trying flavors and like, just get the pistachio. And if you don't like it, you fucked up.

But anyway, whenever I hear that joke, I think of you. That's Dave is that take. And it's a difficult thing in our household. Right. He's anti-sampling. I'm anti in our household. He's anti-sampling. I'm anti-sam. Are you anti-sampling? No. Thank you.

I am aware of there's a time and place. Like if I'm at, I don't know, a Chipotle or something where like there's a line or something and I need something customized a certain way, I want it a certain way, if there's nobody behind me, I'm gonna take my time. What are you customizing at Chipotle that other people aren't standard,

everything's custom? It changes every time. What could you be doing that's taking extra time than the standard personal customization process? Yeah, I think Chipotle probably wasn't the best example. No, I feel like you're hiding something now. No, I think Chipotle's not a great example. I was just thinking, where do you order in line

and not at a restaurant? And Chipotle came in my mind. But like, if I have questions about stuff, like what is on this, what is in this, something that takes up time. Klyla and I got into our biggest fight over this. She... Mm-hmm.

Go ahead. Yeah. We've never talked about it on the podcast. Well, anyway, if there's people behind me, I'm not gonna be the same as if there's nobody behind me. Our biggest fight was because Esther said, do you guys have oat milk? And then they were like, yes, we have oat milk.

But she wanted to know what oat milk, if it was house-made and exactly what, and she wanted to see the labeling. And I was like, oh, I gotta get out of here. It was a long day. Me checking the labels at the protein and L1. It had been a long day. And I like short-circuited and I was like, oh, I gotta get out of here. It was a long day. Me checking the labels at the protein at L1. It was a long day. It had been a long day. And I like short-circuited and I was like, bye.

And then I just like left. I like completely just left. But the thing is, it was actually really good for our relationship. I don't know if you've ever experienced this, but like to get into a fight, have that, say what you feel, feel what you feel. Say what you mean, mean what you say.

Those kinds of things, and then recover. Recover. Who are you telling? There are some people who do not know how to apologize. But no, it's because people don't know how to, like, no matter where I stood about it, I know it made you feel like shit. So the next day I was like, I truly am so sorry.

Like, yeah, but there was a moment where I stood my ground and that wasn't right. But it also felt to have someone say what they really experienced. You probably liked that she did it, you're saying. I did. Same. Yeah, like it didn't make me feel like shit. Yes, I was scared, but it was, again,

it was so worth it. And the recovery was, I think, what strengthened, I think that strengthens anyone. And it's not easy to go through that and recover, I think. You have to have good conflict resolution skills. And then you also have to be compatible in the way you communicate with those people. And if so, those issues, it's like working out.

You tear your muscles and then they grow stronger and then you develop shorthand and you get to know. And then there's a world where you know, you're gonna go into a place and Esther's gonna wanna know what oat milk this is. You stand outside or something. Or I don't do it. Or I do it with someone else.

Or she's getting ready or she understands that's what it is. I have a better understanding of it now. And I would just be in a separate line and pretend I didn't know you. That's it. I wouldn't be like, Esther and I are here together. Yeah. But yeah, I think you're right.

I think conflict resolution, if you think you can be in such a good place with someone and if you don't know how to recover from an argument or fight, it's over. That relationship is absolutely dead. It's gonna just slowly burn in the eye. I've experienced this to where it gets very frustrating because you have two people

with two different communication styles, and it's like, it seems, it feels like it should be so easy. Like, no, no, let's just fight the, it's- But learning how to fight is an art form. We have that. I feel like we are an example too of like problem recovery, communication recovery, whatever it is. And I do think that maybe in the past,

I would have thought a relationship with a friend or coworker, whatever the word, it's all like even healed would be best. But I don't think that is what's best. No, because you don't get to show up authentically. Yeah, you want to show up as you are, be accepted. And I heard years ago and I loved it, fight the problem, not the person.

I love that. The issue isn't that Esther's checking the oat milk. The issue is that whatever it might be, maybe through association you're embarrassed. Yeah, that is I think what it is. And for you, the issue isn't that she left and she was mad at you. The issue is that you feel whatever it might be,

that she abandoned you, she didn't accept you, that she isn't OK with your curiosities. She doesn't like me. Yeah, so the problem is just Esther needs more information. Kaila feels embarrassed and like, how do we get Esther the information and make her feel safe? And then instead of being like, you always do this. Will you always do this?

And it seems so simple unless you're triggered and then it's tough, but then you do it the next day and like fucking just figure it out, just be nice. It'd be nice and figure it's tough, but then you do it the next day. And like, fucking just figure it out. Just be nice, be nice and figure it out. And you might get embarrassed and that's something that you don't like, but also you might be difficult and need to know stuff and you want your oat milk a certain way, we're a difficult bunch, you and me. I know.

So how do you find the charisma to ask the question where it doesn't bother people? I know. That's why my mom's a fucking queen. My mom, everywhere, we walk into a Verizon store and there will be, Debbie's here, and there will be people who come out from the back and come around. Everybody loves my mom,

and my mom is respectfully so difficult. But she knows how to be so sweet and funny and my mom gets everything from, even before COVID, respectfully, so difficult. But she knows how to be so sweet and funny. And my mom gets everything from, even before COVID, now airlines are easier with like giving you your money back. But it used, my mom used to call to change tickets and never a change fee. Never, listen, I'm telling you,

I was in Cleveland a few years ago, and I don't remember what it was. I was sick or something, and it was a weekend. So I had to go to the urgent health, urgent care, and I didn't want to wait, but you have to. It's urgent care. On my way, my mom calls. I get there five minutes later, there's a line.

The woman says, Rick? I go, yeah, comes over and blah, blah, blah, and she's talking to me about my TV show. My mom got me in an urgent care, bro. That's so sweet. Wait, I need to be in a Debbie masterclass. It's, that's a great idea. This is really a skill. That's a great idea.

That I think will take you so much further in life than actually being like good at something. I used to have a saying in high school, cause I got good at it, not like my mom, but you booze, you lose, you schmooze, you win. Oh God, I wanna schmooze. I wanna schmooze so much more effectively and I'm just not, because I'm poor with icon,

there's a lot of things that are going wrong for me. You shower too much. You're really pretty, and I actually think that's a disadvantage, that's schmooze, schmoozing. But I don't have a soft, a friendly face. I know, I think it's, I think it would be intimidating to schmooze with you.

No, not if you do this, all you have to do is, when you go in, when you interrupt, or if you ask, I think it would be intimidating. No, not if you do this. All you have to do is when you go in, when you interrupt, or if you ask, excuse me, you go like this. Yeah, you go, oh no. You go like, almost like, oh sorry, and here's my hands, I don't have a weapon. I know, I know. And it's also like, when somebody cuts you off

and they wave, excuse me, I'm so sorry. You had a question? Not you, Moshe. It's also like when somebody cuts you off and they wave. Excuse me, I'm so sorry. You had a question? Not you, Moshe. Hey, Moshe. He's next guest? Lucky, that one's gonna be good. My question is how often are we moving tables

if we don't like our table when we get into a restaurant? I might, somebody in my family had COVID. I don't think I have it. I found out on my way over here. We have decided we're fine with it. Why would you tell me to crash this episode when he's got full blown COVID? I already forgot about that.

That's Alvin, Alvin this is MoChef. Your dog? Yeah. He's got COVID. No he doesn't. He might. Come here. It goes through dogs.

Why, I'm just here to be charming and crash. You look great. You look great. Same. Did you crash earlier? No, just came here to be charming. Oh, how is he? Oh, he's fine.

He's, you know, a little dry. It's honestly been really intense. Do you want to come? If I wasn't sick, I would say, do you want to just leave this and come do mine? I would do it. Actually, I would get COVID for a podcast appearance. Not this one, but for you. But this is, you know. No, no, no, say it.

Well, ever since the rebranding. What? What's the rebranding? Which you helped us do. No, the first one, when it went from Blood, Bath, or Trash Tuesday. Oh, okay. What is the major difference?

None. None. It was just a name change because we think we were being sued, but we are now not sure. By who? These two girls. You can say it's black guys. By two black guys.

Just say it. It was two white women. Yeah, two, yeah. There's a difference. Yeah. Now, did you want me to stay for the rest of the episode or should I like do it weird? Like, okay, well I'll be-

Are you about to record another one with you? Yeah. Well, this is great because now people know next is gonna be- Next week. Yeah, next week it's gonna be MoShah. Hey, go ahead and throw up the graphic right here. That's sort of your vibe, right?

Yeah. That says next week on the podcast, MoShah Cash. Let's wrap this up then. You stay. Yeah, stay. This is fun. I don't know. How do cameras work? I have to be on the entire time. Hey, you look like a writer.

You're just gonna sit here and they're gonna- And what do you look like when you look in the mirror? If that- Esther, whatever you wanna say, it's gonna be great. I love that you're swinging. I really do. You know what? But you're so- We'll see you guys next week.

Thank you so much. Well, hold on. Let me plug my dates. We're gonna let you do that you're swinging. I really do. But you're so. We'll see you guys next week. Thank you so much. Hold on, let me plug my dates. We're gonna let you do that. Just relax. You guys, thank you so much for listening. Rick is on tour and he's like, kinda acts like he's the only person who's ever been on tour before. Where are you gonna be?

I asked you to talk about your dates earlier and you said you don't have any. Why would you do that? Oh no, are you playing? Are you being serious? Because sometimes. Playing. I don't know why I did that, sorry.

Okay. I'll be at the Den Theater of Chicago, September 21st. Is it cool if I piggyback on your dates? What's that? Can I piggyback on your dates? Yeah. Can I plug my dates on his episode? The only problem is people aren't gonna know the difference.

Right, that is true. I'm older. One of those Jews is gonna be at the Den and the other one's gonna be in DC. I'll be, this is out already this weekend, so I won't do that. I'll be at DC Improv, September 28th. I will be at the Addison Dallas Improv,

November 6th, Houston Improv, November 7th, and Creek in the Cave in Austin, Texas. Two shows, November 8th. Go to ricklasman.com slash store to pick up this shirt. And as always, be kind to people because you never know what they're gonna go. Stop. You didn't know what I was gonna say?

No, it's just that's, you got to plug your dates at the end, that's it. What is this? Fine, you know what? Take a page out of Esther's book and don't be kind to people. I'm not saying that, I'm just saying, no, say your message.

Be kind to people because you never know what they're gonna be at the Den Theater. We're gonna be at the Den Theater. September 21st. 21st. Great show, great venue. Where else, what else you got? I'll tell you something.

I'm gonna be at the DC Improv. When? The weekend before the election. Oh. Right before the ship pops off. When is that? October something? You don't know?

October 24th through 26th in Seattle, Washington at laughs November 8th, the ninth and some other stuff. Listen, I don't know if it's still going on, but the reason I'm going to DC is actually a friend of mine is doing a Shakespeare comedy of errors show. And I wanted to, I haven't seen them in a little bit. So I wanted to go see the show. So I'm like, maybe I could do some standup.

It might still be going on there. So check that out and you check it out. Comedy of errors in Washington, DC for about a month starting the end of September. It might still be going on there. So check that out and you check it out. Comedy of Errors in Washington DC for about a month starting the end of September. And remember always be kind to others because you never eat races equally and don't eat meat every day of the week. On Fridays.

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