Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - A Trash Tuesday Friendsgiving Ft. Jenna Jiménez

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We have Oreo cookies for breakfast because our government wants us to die early. I do chicken sausage. Sorry, I just died. We eat cookie crisps. What's so funny? No, I mean, it's so stupid. She wanted to add a statement on top of what I said. And then she was just like, I eat chicken. I know she's stupid.
Starting point is 00:00:26 She's so stupid. What are we supposed to say to that? Good job, stupid. Bad. Do you know what the energy was? I like turtles. Yeah, I like turtles. I like turtles.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I like turtles. That's a good. Oh my God. She goes, I eat chicken. That's it. Do you know what I'm grateful for this Thanksgiving? Are we starting? I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:00:50 No, this is relevant to what you're doing. Okay, go ahead. But we are starting. Go ahead, carry on. So I was just talking to Stella. I went up to her and I was like, can we order food? But while I was asking her, like food was falling out of her mouth.
Starting point is 00:01:06 And then she got embarrassed. But I was she I was like, I am not paying attention to you because I'm embarrassed and I'm asking to order food. And it reminded me of my favorite life lesson, which is everyone only is caring about themselves. And on this Thanksgiving, I want to remind everyone that people are only looking at themselves in there in the mirror. They don't nobody cares about themselves. And on this Thanksgiving, I wanna remind everyone that people are only looking at themselves in the mirror. Nobody cares about you. Same in the yoga class.
Starting point is 00:01:31 So on this Thanksgiving, don't think about anyone else. Think about yourself. No, think about how everyone else is thinking about themselves, and that gives you peace. Are you new to Thought About Me, though? What? My beautiful boyfriend who packed me a lunch. I love this so much.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I love that. Because you know what? I deserve it though, just say that. You deserve it. Wait, what is the lunch? And it's packed up so cutely. Breakfast wrap with eggs and bacon. And it looks like there's green onion in there.
Starting point is 00:02:08 But I love that. Can I smell it? Will you flash me the middle? Ooh, can I smell it? Very simple. Can I smell it? I think this is a low carb tortilla though. Yeah, I could smell the tortilla.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Yeah, it's not really like, you know, but it's been a while since I've been treated like this. And it's sometimes a little bit jarring for someone like myself who, like, historically has always been, like, taking care of somebody. So that's what I'm thankful for, is having a partner who really, like, looks out for me and makes, packs my lunch. That's so cute'm thankful for is having a partner who really like looks out for me and makes packs my lunch I love that so
Starting point is 00:02:49 so much Thanks guys, and he's been really like just so great about like my whole face stuff Every day he's like you're you look great. You look great. It'll go away like just being so supportive. He's staring at your tits He's like, you look great. He's like, I don't even notice. What are you talking about? Let's be real though. The tits are not the star of this show. They've never been the stars of the show.
Starting point is 00:03:13 You never know though. Like just because you have a beautiful face and not huge tits, it doesn't mean that your tits aren't the star of the show. What do you think is the star of the show for you? As a mother, I can't comment. Just say your tits, you've had epic tits. Esther, you have great tits.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I know, stop. She's always like, ew, don't like, what is such a weird energy? I just need you to say it out loud. No, I can't, I can't. And even when I see her tits, she's like, ew, no, it's like, it's not gross. You know what it is though?
Starting point is 00:03:43 Please tell me. Things are different in your 20s, and then when you're used to a certain thing, and then the body changes a little bit, even if it's just a little bit of a change. Like I have a rule, I don't look at selfies from five years ago, 10 years ago. Why not?
Starting point is 00:03:59 Because I used to do it. I love looking at old pictures. Because I do it, and then I get sad, and I go, I don't look like that anymore and You look so much better is the thing you could say that I will I am saying that but I Just I don't you know what it is. I don't want to hyper fixate and fucking compare Yeah, the young me and old me like but no can I just live in this I had a moment of realization around my body dysmorphia I'll just live in this. I had a moment of realization around my body dysmorphia. Gilbert posted a video of me a couple of weeks ago
Starting point is 00:04:29 and I was clearly very thin and toned. And I thought to myself, oh my God, look how incredible I look. And back then you didn't think so. I remember how utterly miserable I was. And I am so much, I love my body more now Only because I'm in a better mental place like back then I couldn't there's no way I could have appreciated how good I look That's the tail's oldest time. Yeah, it's a tail look at Jules
Starting point is 00:04:55 Back then hoes didn't want me now I'm hot hoes all on me Exactly like Jules last week whatever it was when she was talking about how she doesn't go out cuz she's too fat What Jules said this? Yeah. It's like you're not... She's... Oh, she's unwell. It's not... That's not... No. Just no. I've recently gained like eight to sixteen pounds. That's a huge range for a person who's five feet tall. I know. But I am in a better mental place and I'm like, it is what it is. Yeah, I think that like, you know, I think it's a good sign for, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:35 I mean, Bobby was not very nice the last time he saw me. He was like, you literally, like, you're a big back bitch. And I'm like, thank you. It didn't hurt my feelings. But I don't know if it's a negative thing coming from him. It is. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:50 But I was like not even like hurt by it. I like laughed and I was like, yeah, I am, right now I am. And that's okay. Like it felt like nice to just like let it roll off my shoulders. Is this girlhood? I think this is womanhood. Womanhood.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Yeah, also the more you just let your body do what it's gonna do, the hyper fixation of either being skinnier or being too fat or needing to gain weight, your body will do the opposite. Yeah. It is not gonna do what you want it to do if you fixate on it.
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's so true. Like for me, I only gained weight whenever I was like, I have to be skinny. It's just the brain. That's how the brain works. Yeah. So it's Thanksgiving week. How are we feeling?
Starting point is 00:06:34 It's kind of a weird little pocket work. Temperature change. OK, can I just talk about not the temperature change? But when are we going to do away with this God awful time change? I knew you were gonna say that. Oh, that is horrific. I am thankful for a lot of things, I'm not thankful for that.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Like it takes me down to the pits of mental illness. So here's what I've heard is that they have like, they're the legislators, whoever they are out there, the senators, there's like someone who's trying to get it done, but what gets tripped up is they can't decide which one to keep. What do you mean? They can't decide, do they keep the, which hour?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Do they stay in the fall one time zone? No, we stay in the spring one. You'd think, but apparently there's scientists that say there's a reason not to. I don't know what it is. Does it have to do with African? Does it have to do with circadian rhythm? I don't know. Or maybe farming? Yes, I would say it's a reason not to. I don't know what it is. Does this have to do with agri- What, like your circadian rhythm? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I said I don't know. Or maybe farming? Yes, I would say it's probably more along the lines of economics and agriculture. Because that's how it started. Why economics? Because it's agriculture. It's like, I think the reason why it was started to begin with.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Guy, do you have the answer? It was farming, I thought. Yeah, longer. Longer like working, harvesting. Yeah, but it's just like, okay, the crops are growing well, but the people are dying. So like a pickle lane. The people are tired.
Starting point is 00:07:54 We're not gonna survive very long if this keeps going. Like the amount of- They don't care because it's all immigrants working in the farms anyhow. Good point. Well, they apparently do care because they're not changing it. Yeah, but they're also suffering
Starting point is 00:08:07 with the time change as well. It's like farmers have to wake up at like three o'clock in the morning and typically from the farmers I've known, they're waking up at two, three, working their asses off. Some of the kids are then going to school, then going to like soccer practice and then they're having to go home and do their homework.
Starting point is 00:08:23 They're not sleeping. Then they're waking up going, it's like. I don't, I mean, I feel bad about complaining about my mental illness now. And you know what's funny is they're not really complaining about their mental illness. My dad does not complain at all. You know, this is a quote that really struck me
Starting point is 00:08:42 in my twenties. What was it? It was, oh God, cut this out because I forgot the quote. Okay, we'll take it. Okay, Harry, I found it. Like lofty- Wait, I re-say the thing, you know this quote. No, no, no, keep it all in.
Starting point is 00:08:58 No, it's, lofty ideas are a luxury of the well-fed. Duh. No, it's lofty ideas are a luxury of the well-fed. Duh. I know, but this is a quote that struck me in my early twenties where it's like, if you're just like, it's such a luxury to contemplate life. People who are struggling don't have the time or the energy to contemplate life or philosophize about anything
Starting point is 00:09:24 or even think about the fucking time change. So to that I say my hot girl problems I'm gonna shut up about. I still don't like the time change. I support your hot girl problems and I always will. Don't let Jenna make you feel bad about them. She was talking about the farming and the immigrants and then I was like.
Starting point is 00:09:41 No your problems are real and I hate the time change and it's very sad the dimming of the day Thank you. I am very horrible and I know this plot twist. I love the dimming of the day. Oh Yeah, that's wrong with you. Honestly. I'm sure it's a troll. It's like say why it's a sign like we're getting into the fall Spirit and it's gonna be winter. Why can't we get into that spirit without the time change? Oh, it's light out. I can't get into the full spirit. Like what?
Starting point is 00:10:08 It's just, I like the change. You know what? Summer is so hot and it's so long. It can be hot. And then we get the sign of like it's coming to an end. Look, I don't. She never said she doesn't like the fall weather. We're talking about just the light.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I know, but the signaling of, I just like it. Of the depression is like a fall. It gets me in the spirit. I think I know where we're getting caught up. What? You and I are different in that I like to sleep in. You wake up a little earlier, so you have a long stretch of daylight.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I don't. Yeah, me either. By the time I wake up, I'm like, oh, I have two hours of light. This is not good. This morning I texted Esther at like 7.52, a question and a couple of things, and all she said was, why are you awake?
Starting point is 00:10:55 Because I, no, I woke, this morning I woke up before Ace. She's, what time? Six something? I woke up at six, yeah. And Ace slept till seven. I was like, well, what is the point of this if I'm awake laying here? But I did get doughnuts. It just dawned on me that when, during the time change,
Starting point is 00:11:12 Bobby probably doesn't see light for six months. I thought you were gonna say Bobby just stays on one time and like, he just never. He doesn't change his clocks at all. He just adjusts somehow. Well, he doesn't know how to read time, so that helps. But yeah, so he probably just lives in the Arctic. He has no idea.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah, and with those shades that he has in his room. Oh yeah, the black logs. Even during the day, it's dark. So if he's in his room, oh, he's fucked. You know what? You're feeling bad about your problems. Jenna's preaching about the farmers. You know what? You're feeling bad about your problems. Jenna's preaching about the farmers. You know what that means?
Starting point is 00:11:47 I guess we should be talking about what we're grateful for because it's Thanksgiving. And I have learned that when you're depressed, you gotta do that great, what is it called? Grateful list? Wait, it's called something. Gratitude journal, gratitude, last time I forgot the word gratitude.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Don't edit that out, let everyone see that I'm of the people. Okay, I'm grateful for what? I have a prediction. We're gonna talk about Thanksgiving in China, I was gonna talk about the pillaging of dindiness. You better not! You best not.
Starting point is 00:12:23 No! So just get it out of your system now. Yeah, whatever you have to say. Thanksgiving is trash. It is rooted in a very racist, horrible, genocide, killing, stealing land. Yes, it's facts, facts, facts, facts. Today we will speak about what we can do today, which is be grateful for, it's still a nice time to be grateful for what you have around you. It's still a nice time to be grateful for what you have around you.
Starting point is 00:12:45 It's still a nice time to be grateful for the progress that we're making. I'm grateful for my friends. I'm grateful for my mental health. I have a new twist on the gratitude list that I learned from an old lady who, after talking to her, she gave me her business card and told me that she wrote a book called...
Starting point is 00:13:02 You got conned. Hold on, what was the book called? Love, it was like Grace Love Trump. Wait, is she self published and where do I find this? I'll find that information for you. I know you want that book. But she did have one good idea, which was she does an A to Z gratitude list.
Starting point is 00:13:21 So you go like A, for me, apples. B, bananas. So I'm grateful for fruits. C, cherries. Calamansi. Calamansi, oh, great choice. Thank you for honoring my people. D, Dunkin' Donuts.
Starting point is 00:13:39 But so, if you are like, oh, I don't know how to start my gratitude list. Dragon fruit. Do the A to Z version. It's going to be all fruits. For all these listeners, better be listening to fruits. And you would know all the obscure fruits. But in terms of being grateful.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I said what I was grateful for. I've got nothing, so. Cool. No, we gotta, we gotta. Good thing you brought us back there seven times. Esther, three things. In three, two, one, go. I'm very grateful that I had the extreme intense privilege
Starting point is 00:14:09 of becoming a mommy. And I think as I go through the thoughts of all that and get further and further away from just the whole experience of giving birth and whatever, I realize how much had to go right for me to land in a place that I have a baby. And especially history of miscarriage, just different health issues that I'm discovering now
Starting point is 00:14:36 postpartum, it's such a miracle that I have her. And so while I'm dealing with my own extreme anxiety and fears and depression and stuff, I do try to remind myself I'm dealing with my own extreme anxiety and fears and depression and stuff, I do try to remind myself, I'm so lucky, which is weird, right? Because it's like this thing, having a baby, well, that's how we're all here. Everyone gets to do it, but not everyone gets to do it,
Starting point is 00:14:56 but everyone's having a baby every five seconds. But for me, I'm really focusing on, this is actually, I'm so lucky that this happened to me. I'm so lucky and so that's like my main one. That's real, that's good. And that I still love Jonah the most. That I love Jonah the most of anyone ever. If you guys missed that donut growl.
Starting point is 00:15:18 She's just asserting her boundaries. Jenna, did you already go through your gratitude list? Yeah, I mean, I think there's, but something- Esther, you forgot to thank Lexapro. Oh God, yeah. That's the real- Lexapro over the baby for sure. Because I would not be here. Honestly, I'm thanking Lexapro over your baby as well.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I have- Because I would not be here. I talk about this in depth on my solo podcast, but like I don't want to bum out the Trash Tuesday happy people. I have- You think we're happy? You think? The audience is happy.
Starting point is 00:15:55 That's why we're scrounging for things we're grateful for. That's sluggies. We've all come together as a community, not because we're happy. I think we've become a community because, you know, we say some really relatable such shit, so. Okay, well, I will say that the first like two months, I thought I was gonna be Scott free of postpartum,
Starting point is 00:16:16 like anything, I was just happy, peaceful, whatever. And then I would say months three to seven, I took a extreme nosed dive that I haven't, that it just, yeah, we were on a break from recording when the nose dive truly happened and it has been, I'm just really glad my medication is working. Me too. I'm really glad my meds are working
Starting point is 00:16:37 and that I'm getting a little sleep is helping. But I mean, really bad thoughts, the worst I've ever been in my life. Yeah, I was gonna say say but also your thought process like I know you were saying like oh we just have to name things that we're grateful for but being able to just name things you're grateful for changes your thought process even as woo woo as it sounds.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But it's true because when you were at your worst your mind was filled with all of the worst thoughts that only continued to make things worse. Yes. Correct. So sometimes you have to implant the thoughts. Artificially. Yeah, artificially implant. I tried. It didn't, honestly, I'm going to be honest, it didn't help me. I think it helped you in moments when you were doing it, but yes, you needed Lexapro help, but-
Starting point is 00:17:17 But that's the crazy shit about intrusive thoughts. They are so dark and so fucking wild. I know in the peak of my anxiety, I used to tell Jenna, I don't even, I couldn't even hold a knife. I was so afraid, not because I was ever going to do anything with that knife, but because I was afraid of the intrusive thought. I had that too with the knives after my hospital incident.
Starting point is 00:17:40 It's a weird thing, or like, I didn't want to drive because I was like, I had this intrusive thought of like just veering off the road. You ever? I had the driving thoughts where what if when I'm at a crosswalk and people are crossing, what if I accidentally, my foot accidentally goes to the gas instead of the brake?
Starting point is 00:17:58 And so when I would get to a stop, I would like jam in the brake and make sure it was, it's just so weird. Oh another one, my favorite one. I used to have this extreme fear that I would forget how to swallow. Oh, she did. And I would literally con myself
Starting point is 00:18:14 to forgetting how to swallow. And then it would be hard to swallow. And it would be hard to swallow. Oh my God, wait, now it's happening to me. It's contagious. That has happened to me and it used to happen to me on planes that, and I really thought like, oh no, like, spit it off. That has happened to me, and it used to happen to me on planes, and I really thought, like,
Starting point is 00:18:27 oh, no, no, there's something wrong with my epiglottis or something. And you would get stuck there, right? And because of the surgery that I had here, I'm like, no, no, no, it's getting stuck with the scar tissue now. Really? Yeah. And I would be on the plane, like,
Starting point is 00:18:44 okay, and then I would just, I mean, what anxiety? Can I tell you what I learned that really helped me with the swallowing thing? Apparently you cannot swallow more than twice back to back. Which is why when we would try to excessively swallow to prove that we could swallow, we would get stuck. And then it would build, it would avalanche into this anxiety, it's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I have really actually, I thought a lot about you, Klyla, the last like month and a half because. I love when I'm thought about. I, well it's not for a good reason. Like I just, because my anxiety got so bad, worse than it's ever been, I started to think about how you have over the years on this podcast talked about really bad shit
Starting point is 00:19:24 that you've been through and I started to like feel it or something. I was like, oh my God, those things that you said that I couldn't really conceptualize, like I finally could and I felt so bad for you and was just feeling like so much empathy, like the stories about you just you being scared to leave your house or scared to sleep alone.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Like that must have been so hard and so real. And it sneaks up on you very fast. Like I was somebody who traveled everywhere alone and then turned into an absolute agoraphobic hermit. And I couldn't even go to the grocery store, which was a block away from my home without calling Jenna because I was frozen in the island. You know what I said on that phone call?
Starting point is 00:20:03 I'm scared I'm gonna forget who I am. And I was holding fruit and I was frozen in the aisle. And you know what I said on that phone call? I'm scared I'm going to forget who I am. And I was holding fruit and I was like, can you come get me? I have this feeling that I'm going to forget who I am. Yeah. And I'm going to be an amnesiac. I had dropped her off at the grocery store at Gelson's. Yeah. And I cried, come back, come back for me.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And she called me like, hey, can you come back? And she was like, the only name I could remember was yours. And she like dropped all of her stuff in the aisle. And I just bailed on my groceries. So now that you're here today and you look back on that, what was happening to you then? I was going through a very high stressful situation from my heart issue.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And because I had this arrhythmia, I had a very large mistrust of my body. I forgot, I went from being an athlete to being like something dreadful is gonna happen, even though I was safe and I was fine. I genuinely was safe, but I could not, I was so stressed out and I was taking new medications and I had just had that procedure done to my heart.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And I was- Inflation? Yeah, and I just short-circuited. And it was two years of really trying to come out of that anxiety. And I remember the first out of town trip that I took to Joshua Tree. I was like, I'm gonna book three days to try to test myself.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Three days in Joshua Tree. I lasted half a day. I cried to Bobby and said, we have to turn back around. I'm too scared. Wow. Ruined our little getaway, but that's how bad it was for me. And I never really talked about it in length
Starting point is 00:21:34 because I didn't want to remember being that anxious. Yeah. That's so real. That was hard for me too, to admit that I was like, suddenly this person, my therapist would always say like you you talk about the Old you a lot Jenna like all the time and I'm like because this is like the opposite of what I ever was like Yes, we would travel, you know me someone would be like come to Argentina I would literally 30 minutes throw shit in a bag go to LAX and I feel like my food allergies and my hospital
Starting point is 00:22:03 Trauma did the same thing to me where I was like, I cannot trust my body, but then that makes you spiral. That puts you into fight or flight. So then that puts you into a space where you're constantly like, and then so hypervigilant. And then you start thinking of everything that could go wrong and slowly, but surely it's like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 then you're not sleeping. I mean, I lost opportunities in that timeframe. But I will say like you were saying that you were thinking of Kalyla. When I met Kalyla, I like, I didn't really understand a panic attack at all. I was understanding, but I was like, oh, I'll just be here for this, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:22:44 And then it is so helpful to have someone who came before you, who can really put you on and you can be like, oh, I'm not the only person in the world that this has happened to, which I'm doing now for friends. That is so, the thought is always, I'm the only person that can go through this. Because genuinely, it feels like,
Starting point is 00:23:05 well, it feels like you're dying. And you can't convince me that I'm not the only person feeling that. Because I look around, I'm like, everyone's functioning fine. Yeah. But, you know, I'm thankful for you guys, because, um... especially in the last couple weeks, I've been really down about this shit
Starting point is 00:23:25 and you guys have made it very light and joyous to be paralyzed in the face. Yay. And the one thing- That's the best compliment ever. Yay. Well, thank you for being grateful for us. I'm grateful for this show.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Wait. I'm so grateful for this show, for our team. Most importantly, by the way, Stella, Guy, Ariel, killing it. Have you seen our social media lately? Check it out. I know you have, but most, most, most importantly, the Sluggies, because how has this year,
Starting point is 00:23:56 this year has been the hell of a year for us. It really has been. Look at Dona. A hell of a roller coaster. I think I texted you this. It's like, I think when we're at the lowest point, we need to take inventory of 2024. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:11 This year has been absolutely wild. And the fact though that we've gone through changes, like personally, professionally, this show rebranding, whatever, like, and the Sluggies are still here. They're still here. They still show us so much love and support. Like, I could literally cry.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I can't believe it. When I am in my lowest lows, I do think of this show and this audience and this family and how we can go through huge changes and still be a family and... And have support. Yeah, and just a place to share this stupid shit about our anxiety or whatever,
Starting point is 00:24:49 and like have David So make fun of us, and have Rick Glassman be the most annoying person that I've ever born. Like the fact that all those things can take place and the sluggies show up, I just feel the community that exists is very, very special and important. And I just want to take a moment to acknowledge
Starting point is 00:25:10 how much, Kaila, you and I talk privately about the slugs and we show each other different things that they say and just how positive. Esther's about to cry, so this is real. Yeah. Because we talk about it together, how much we love the slugs, but we don't bring it up as much publicly, but I don't know., so this is real. Because we talk about it together, how much we love the slugs, but we don't bring it up
Starting point is 00:25:26 as much publicly. But I don't know. No, I completely agree. I think that this year was, the start of the year was very tricky for us. And I'm just so thankful that you guys have stuck around and have really given us a chance to become a new version of ourselves,
Starting point is 00:25:43 because I think that's what we should be doing with everyone in our lives. It's like allowing people to change, allowing people to grow. And you guys have done that for us. And I love where we're at now. I feel like we are in a much more comfortable place. Comfortable. I know. Everyone makes, everyone says, I don't know how to say that word. And it's because I don't know how to say that word. Some facts are just facts. I love it though. I'm not going to correct you. I just want you I know. Everyone says I don't know how to say that word and it's because I don't know how to say that word. Some facts are just facts.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I love it though. I'm not going to correct you. I just want you to keep saying. There's two words, comfortable and valuable. I cannot say those two words and it's not because my mouth is paralyzed. I just cannot say those words. That's true. But honestly, I don't want to cry, but when this show became just you and I, Kalei,
Starting point is 00:26:25 I did not have the self-worth to believe that people would still watch. And the fact that they do is just, I don't know, it's like cool because I didn't believe. Like I wanted to try, but I didn't know that we would make it this far. And I will say, we've always had an arms length friendship. And that's because I never really allowed you into,
Starting point is 00:26:51 now I'm gonna cry. I never, I see work, I've always been someone who's compartmentalized my life. Work is work and I don't mix it with my personal stuff because you know it's fear of like disappointment or fear of possibly letting someone in and them not liking me. And I cry really ugly with this new phase but just let me say what I'm going to say. Now I'm literally going to cry.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I think what I'm most grateful for is that I finally let you into my life. And that didn't happen until this year. And you've been like a really massive like support person for me, including Jenna. And Jenna and I have like, you know, we've had a long break of our friendship. And it's just a different feeling now. And I feel like just so grateful that I have you guys to lean on and that I've opened myself up to you. And I like you.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I genuinely was afraid that I wouldn't. I was like, oh my God, if I let her in and I'm just, she's gonna be this way and no, I like you more and more each time and we don't always agree on stuff, but like, I really do love you guys. That's like one thing about Esther is like, if you just meet her, you think that like she kind of sucks. Like on the surface, if you don't let her in,
Starting point is 00:28:21 it's true because you also close yourself off to like, you're not just gonna give yourself to anyone. It's not worth it for you. You've done that before a lot in the past and it's led you to not such great places. And so I feel like, I've known Esther deeply for so long and I know how great she is and how wonderful and genuine
Starting point is 00:28:41 and like what an actually good friend she is. But I know that like, with her, it's kind of like all or nothing. And so if you're getting like just the on the surface Esther, like, yeah, you're not really getting much. I can be prickly too. Like I appreciate, first of all,
Starting point is 00:28:58 I'm really grateful that you've let me and I also don't wanna be very clear. Like your boundaries will always be respected by me because I know that I can be like needy, annoying, all these little things that some people might perceive, but like, I can really, I respect boundaries, so just know if you wanna let me out anytime you can. But like, I don't think I've ever cried to you
Starting point is 00:29:19 up until this year. Like, I never thought. Yeah. She's like my go-to, Esther knows every single thing about me. Yeah, but when it's like crunch time. I wish I didn't. But she can be a really good like,
Starting point is 00:29:31 coach in that way. She really can. It's very, she's very clear. She seems like she doesn't be, but she is. Like if you- I love this episode. Yes. You're a good person. But I do, and I don't want to spend too much time on this, but I do feel obviously the exact same about you guys,
Starting point is 00:29:49 the way that you lift me up. Like this to me, like this is girlhood, this is womanhood, like when I'm with you guys, because I don't always, I haven't always really known that true female friendship. And that's a big, like I talk with my therapist, like that's a big thing that I'm wanting to add into my life this year or just grow more of. Okay but not too many. No no no. Quality not quantity don't worry. Anyways but I feel like
Starting point is 00:30:16 intense pride about this this this just this. Also thank you both for letting me be on this. We are fired For letting me visit every now and then it's so crazy to me too that like people don't realize like the web No, it's crazy the web of friendship, but every everything goes back to Jenna Like if I know somebody it's always like how do we know each other? Oh, it's probably. It's really weird. I mean, Gilbert, who I do Tiger Belly with, I know him through Jenna. Socy is through Jenna. Shandy is through Jenna. Just about everyone.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Oh yeah, it's crazy. It's weird. My whole life has kind of been like that because I love sharing my friends, mainly because then it's like I have less responsibility. I just put them on other people. No super connector. Yeah, I love that though.
Starting point is 00:31:09 That's me, especially because like I have. Really stopped my roster of friends like in the last five or six years, but that's like Socy's dad was on the Kelly Clarkson show and another one of my friends, Ago, was on it. And they both texted me that morning like, look who I'm with, we know you because of you. And on the show they were like, yeah, you know Jenna, Jenna, who's Jenna? And then the person who was like the show producer
Starting point is 00:31:36 I've known since I was 13 in high school. That's crazy. And he texted me like, they were talking about Jenna and I think that they're talking about you? And I was like, what the fuck? Wait, I am really scared to say this because I'm scared you're gonna be like, this is like an heirloom from my great-grandfather
Starting point is 00:31:54 but your necklace is so ugly. It's so stupid. Is that the one with the tooth? What is this? I lost my tooth one. This is so dumb. It's an actual peanut. Oh, okay, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:32:03 It's from Jimmy Carter when he was running for president. What do you mean? So because his family was like peanut farmers. And so they, it's like a vintage, don't squeeze it too hard though. Okay, well, where'd you get it? Pygmy hippo or whatever, the one on like a long time ago. Okay, this story is good behind it.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I actually got one for Asa too. But just a gold peanut is stupid, can we agree? It's raw. Sound off in the comments. She also used to have her wisdom tooth. My wisdom tooth, you remember that? I had my wisdom tooth and I saved it and got it turned into a necklace.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And then it broke and I lost it. And every day I think of it and I really have to work on letting go of it, but I'm having trouble. Are you sad about the tooth or are you sad about the jewelry that held the tooth? The tooth. Oh, okay, why?
Starting point is 00:32:54 Because it's gone. I kinda don't wanna know why. The tooth is gone. I know, but it's like, you know. Do you need it? You shave your hair. But my tooth. Anyhow, I have two backup wisdom teeth,
Starting point is 00:33:06 but I didn't like them as much as this one. This one just felt so perfect. I feel like a part of me was lost. The removal of my wisdom, I was scammed. I tell you guys that. I was awake, by the way, because I was so scared to be put down. So was I.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I was put out and I loved it. I just remember- They put you down. Getting out of, because you didn't I loved it. I just remember you down getting out That was like when I was in my watch II all day each Hollywood story So when I was groggy, I was like 18 groggy. I'm like, oh, it's like I just got plastic surgery like all the celebrities I was loving it loser Mine was so fucked up. It turns out, I told you like all of my back teeth
Starting point is 00:33:47 and top back teeth are filled with silver filling that I did not need. Why? When I came from the Philippines, this dentist was like, oh, we're just going to bill her insurance. I didn't have a single cavity. I've never had a cavity.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And so got filled all the way up both rows and then got my four wisdom teeth removed. Didn't need them removed. Didn't have any discomfort, pain, just so my insurance would, he would bill my insurance. Bitch, let me tell you this. And people don't fight back because their insurance is paying for it.
Starting point is 00:34:19 So they're like, oh, they don't say like, oh, no, no, I'm not paying this. My friend Emma, last week, you know Emma. Yeah. Emma, she's never had a cavity. She takes very good care of her teeth. She flosses every morning and night after she eats. She comes here and I mean, she lives here now.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And so I don't know if the dentists here are a little more scammy. Of course it's LA, fuck everybody. The fucking doctors here wanna be famous. Listen. Hate them. Listen. Bitch, I'm going here want to be famous. Listen. I hate them. Listen. Bitch, I'm going to medical school on Reddit. Listen bitch, 19 cavities, she doesn't,
Starting point is 00:34:53 listen, she doesn't tell me, cause I would have said like, oh no, maybe don't do that. Same day she gets 11 of them fixed, cause she was like, I can't fucking believe this, this is insane, I go, Emma, you probably should get a second opinion because maybe you don't have 19 cavities. It fell out.
Starting point is 00:35:09 The cavity fell out that day. The filling. She went back to go get it fixed. I was in the car on the phone with her yesterday and they go, Hey, so we're ready for you to come in and get your teeth cleaning and it's going to be an extra hundred dollars out of pocket for the medication that we're going to give to you for the swelling of your gums." And she goes, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And I go, no, no, no. Ask them what medication. She goes, oh yeah, can you just let me know what medication it is? We don't know that, but we can find out more information on the day of. Except for Dr. Tunzy, my dentist now, who's been my family dentist for over 20 years. When I went over to him, he's the guy who was like, you don't have a single thing wrong with your mouth.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I thought I had gum disease. I thought my teeth, the dentist literally told me, you won't have teeth by the time you're 22. So I need to do all of these things. And he was like, your teeth are in great shape. Dr. Toonsie is an honest dentist. So he's my guy. I recommend.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Dr. Toonsie, what up? Jessica's dentist, do not go to her dentist because her front tooth fell out and then she needed to get it replaced. And then it fell again while eating pho, the softest food. Oh my God. Now I don't remember having pain when I got my wisdom teeth out, did you? What?
Starting point is 00:36:30 What? I look like a blowfish for my mom. They were impacted, they had to drill into my, I remember them holding my head like this when I was awake. Let me go back, let me go back. Rewind, rewind, rewind. I didn't have like a pain that I noticed
Starting point is 00:36:43 to prompt them taking them out. Did you? No, it's very different. No. But you were saying that it's bad that you got them taken out. That they, without having them. Well, there was like, there was no evidence or reason
Starting point is 00:36:58 to suggest that they, it was causing crowding. I mean, that's normal though. But it's not a same day thing, wisdom teeth. It's like, we show you on your x-rays, oh, hey, there's gonna be crowding, your teeth are gonna move. Yeah, there was no explanation. It was just like all four were gone.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And then it took 20 minutes and I could see the blood flying. Because I didn't, unlike you, they did not wanna put me to sleep. I had four permanent teeth pulled, which I feel like is a scam. You do have a really small mouth though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:26 It seems like you have less space. But I feel like I would have made space. I trust my mouth. Her teeth go back into her tonsils. Like it's just weird that, No, but that's fair, like you trust your body. Why would my body have them if they don't, if my body doesn't know how to make room?
Starting point is 00:37:42 I mean, just like we stopped having tails. Yeah, the body does weird things. You stopped having a tail? No, I still have mine. I thought I saw your tail last week. Wait. You definitely have a tail. It's weird that you're trying to act like you don't.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Oh, thank you. Oh. Thank you. By the way, where did you guys get these gigantic bananas? I also love- I got those for you, Kaleila. I thought you'd appreciate that. These are making Kaleila horny as fuck.
Starting point is 00:38:08 They really are. Target, baby. Fix my face. I'm gonna heal your face. This one's the paralyzed side. Oh yeah. It actually feels really good. I like that, a penis just like,
Starting point is 00:38:23 but not someone else doing it, me just going, you know, okay. I do like the ripeness of these bananas though. Like the stage that they're at. I think one more day perfection. I like having a little almost green when you taste them. Just needs a day, you're not well. I like almost a little green.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Okay, let's talk Thanksgiving. I've got some questions. Okay, is This acceptable yes or no if they if you're at someone's house and they serve fish But thanks fish is acceptable anytime. Yes, okay Can we just do away with a boring fucking saying that makes you sleepy? Why do we have to do away with it? It's only once a year. Because poor animal, it's like every year they're like, oh my god, we're gonna get cold to death.
Starting point is 00:39:10 You know, just so, it's just can we... And they're like mass producing it, pumping them up, get them growing, get them... Can we diversify our Thanksgiving dinner portfolio? That's all I'll say. Because this year we're not doing turkey. I think Aloha is making, oh, prime rib. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:39:29 Yeah. Ooh. Prime rib and he's doing, we're not doing turkey at all. I have to say though, there's something I like about the routine of once a year, I'm eating turkey, cranberry, stuffing, gravy, like, and then, you know, maybe the, maybe let's say it's April and I walk into a sandwich shop
Starting point is 00:39:47 in Washington and they have a Thanksgiving-style sandwich. I get that, it reminds me of my Thanksgiving. I like being able to have that sense memory so strong around one specific day. I see what you're saying, and I think maybe it's because you grew up with Thanksgiving. I don't have like emotional attachment to the holiday at all. I only see it as like, oh time to get a tree.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Oh right. Because Christmas is our Super Bowl, right? So I don't know, I understand what you're saying. Like it is all delicious. I missed what you said, sorry. I'm not going to repeat it. It's a podcast. Turn me in.
Starting point is 00:40:24 It's nostalgic. that's the. Oh yeah, I don't care about that, carry on. Yeah, but so basically that, I think fish at Thanksgiving is a yes for me, absolutely 100%. Go lobster, go mussels, do it all. Okay, well you've heard from the Filipino girl and we all knew she was gonna say yes to fish, okay?
Starting point is 00:40:44 That was a trick question for her. And for me, yes fish. Next question. Okay. Should your sweet potatoes have marshmallows? No, marshmallows are a dessert, no. Wait, sweet potatoes also a dessert? No, not a Thanksgiving, they're a side.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Ow, ow, ow, she hurt me, they're a side. Ow, ow! She hurt me, she broke my hand. It's the hand size. Sweet potatoes are. Guys, look at the difference from our hand size. It is. Oh my God. It's titillating. You also have big feet for being a short girl.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Yeah. You know what's weird? I didn't know Jenna was short. I didn't either. You know, it's crazy, because she doesn't read short, you do. She's my height though. Yeah, but you guys are the same height, but she doesn't read short you do she's my height though Yeah, but you guys are the same height, but she does not read no I know, but can I tell you something I am great at being short I would fits her
Starting point is 00:41:32 It's absolutely disgusting that she's short. I think so too because she's like I think so big and manly She should be your height no, and it's disgusting that she's my height. Yeah, I don't even think she's shorter I'd never feel like she's shorter than I'm not it's shorter than anyone. It's very creepy unless you're like seven feet tall Like that guy fucked on the lawn, you know, then I'm shorter than you but that's like Can I do it's crazy that I remember his name don't say I will believe it I hate the way you say it! I hate the way you say it! Wait, you guys are saying the same thing! You just say it one way, you say it another way! Please keep it in. No! No!
Starting point is 00:42:14 I mean I forgot but just remembered. Even with you saying it wrong I knew. Guys. That's how you say his name. Because wasn't he like Eastern European? I don't care. Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Yeah, he was. You fucked him, we didn't. But that's why it's hard for her. And it wasn't, it's not like he was bad or disgusting. It's just, you know, like. Oh, I thought you were so proud of what you did. I was proud of what I did. Can I tell you how quickly this whole thing devolved
Starting point is 00:42:42 by the way, because while she was on the plane, she was texting me, this guy's like the love of my life He's really hot and then it turned into this guy won't shut the fuck up And then it turned into I just fucked the guy on a lawn in Koreatown And then the day after I'm never speaking to him again. It was like such a quick like turn around each time I will also say I never had my days of just fucking people guys like oh, yeah Those were my days, but it's like they came to me very late. It was one day very quickly Like I was really trying to I had I still had sex so late
Starting point is 00:43:19 You did not have sex solely I was 19 in college Girl the first person I made out with was in college and then he became my boyfriend for two years. That's pretty like, that's not so late. I'm just letting you know. I actually think what we did is probably so early. Yeah. I actually think it's appropriate to have sex later.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Yeah, that's good. But then everyone became- Me as a mom, that's not so late, that's early. That's the perfect timing. But then it's like, by the time I was 22, I had had sex with one person. That's fine. That's unacceptable. Wait, can I, should I ask Aloha
Starting point is 00:43:52 about the casserole he's making? Yeah. Okay. We'll see if he picks up. If there's marshmallows. Okay, let's say you're getting your piece of pie, right? Maybe it's pecan, maybe it's pumpkin. Pumpkin, okay. Sweet potato, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:06 What are you topping it with? And you can only, if you can only pick one or the other. Nothing. Shut up. Okay. Whipped cream. Or ice cream. Pick one cream.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Whip. Whip. Babe. Oh, I didn't know what to call it. Question, you're on the pod. What casserole are you making for Thanksgiving again? The sweet potato one? No, Roger's making sweet potato. I'm gonna make Portuguese sausage stuffing.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Oh. Okay, well, if you're gonna make. It's island stuffing, guys. What? Island stuffing, guys. Okay, thank you. Yeah, sweet bread and sausage. Sweet bread and sausage. That sounds real good.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Okay, thank you, love you, bye. Okay, that'd be bye. Okay, thank you, love you. Isn't it nice that even though your face is paralyzed, he still wants to give you that island stuffing? You know what is so crazy is that if we said that to Esther, she'd be like stop Let's move on
Starting point is 00:45:12 Okay, the question you asked I would say coconut whipped cream That was not my option. You can only pick whipped cream or ice cream whipped cream if it's coconut You're putting your piece. Listen. Listen. Okay. Okay. Stay still. Yeah, stay where you are. Do not move You're getting your piece of pie. Okay, have pecan or pumpkin. Okay pecan. Okay, I. Stay still. Stay where you are, do not move. You're getting your piece of pie. You can have pecan or pumpkin. Okay, pecan. I don't like pumpkin. Okay, I would- She's about to have a petite moussager.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Whip cream or ice cream? Oh god, they can see my eye from here. You can only pick one. Whip cream or ice cream? Ice cream! Ew, ew. Ice cream, hot, warm and cold, a la mode. That is disgusting, how you would say.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Disgusting. Please don't bleep it, please. Guys! No, because what if he contacts me? Oh, what's he gonna say, we fucked? Yeah, he's gonna love it. I guess he, he wasn't mean. He's an European, he doesn't watch podcasts.
Starting point is 00:46:01 He wasn't mean at all. He was sweet, he just talked too much. I just didn't know him, so I didn't... I have to say, I'm shocked at how quickly you guys both chose... Excuse me, I almost died. You're a pie. Because pumpkin versus pecan is like a very, very difficult decision, and you guys just like... It's a very easy decision.
Starting point is 00:46:21 You're sick and tired. You're either a pumpkin girl or you're not. No, you're full. What in the fuck would you want? I would also do sweet potato pie. Oh yeah, sweet potato pie. No one even talks about sweet potato pie. Pecan is like an Aunt Sally.
Starting point is 00:46:33 She wants pecan. I want pecan. Pecan pie is so good. You never had it, then you're stupid. I don't like pies. How stupid are you? Pretty stupid. I don't like ice cream, I don't like pie.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Have you never had the pecan bar from, they used to be called Jamaica's Cakes, but now they're called something else I can't remember. The best pecan bars ever. If you've never had that, you are missing a huge joy in your life. I've never had that. They're called top tier cakes now. It's on the West Side, it's on Pico. Oh, it's like a place.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I was picturing like a little like ho-ho looks like I'm This is something I used to do all the time, okay, it's Thanksgiving dinner You're at the Thanksgiving table, okay Are you getting a role or are you saving room and not getting a role because maybe, I don't know. Actually, I've said too much. Are you having your bread or not? I'm not having my bread.
Starting point is 00:47:33 You are? Yeah, a role. You? Yeah, I can't picture myself not getting the role if I'm being honest. Like what is this talk about saving space? You push past discomfort and you eat more. There's no such thing as being at the Thanksgiving dinner and be like, oh, I'm full.
Starting point is 00:47:50 That's not a part of my sentence. Like that doesn't exist in my family. What is your opinion of the people, and you know those guys, right? You know the people where they take the role. You know what I'm gonna say. Everyone knows. You take the role. Just say it so we can know. Are you gonna say, everyone knows. You take the roll. You take the roll. Just say it so we can know. Are you hearing me? Stay still.
Starting point is 00:48:08 While I speak, stay still. If you could speak, that'd be phenomenal. They take the roll, they open it up, and they make a sandwich with the turkey and all the stuffing, the fillings. That sounds good. Yeah. What's the problem?
Starting point is 00:48:19 I don't know, I just wanted to hate on it, because I was picturing Dave doing it. Even though it does sound good. It does sound good. I'll do you one better. Filipino style, you take a pandesal, it's just a hot roll. Don't get caught up in the words.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I am caught up. It's just a hot little, cute little roll. You open it up, you put cold Filipino spaghetti with the noodles and you turn it into a spaghetti sandwich. It also sounds good. Don't uck me, Stella. That's crazy. You know like the day old spaghetti when you were younger?
Starting point is 00:48:51 I would put it on bread and eat it cold. Jenna. What did I do? It's like you're making me fall in love with you all over again. You're making me think you nasty. So same thing. You're both nasty.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Spaghetti as a sandwich? Please try it. It's really, really very good. Also just, cold spaghetti in general. Also Mexicans and Filipinos are so similar. Well, we are the Mexicans of the sea. Yeah. We are the Mexicans of the sea.
Starting point is 00:49:19 It's true. Yeah. There are two things that people call Filipinos. It's either we're the black people of Asia or we're the Mexicans of the sea. And we wear that shit proudly. There's nothing that you guys aren't proud of. Well, it's because we've just been colonized for so long that we're just this amalgamation of everything. And you know, I think it's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:49:40 You guys are proud of spam. Like you will stop at nothing. Your pride stops nowhere. And here's what I'll say is there was a time when saying you were Filipino was not a cool thing. And when I started podcasting with, however long ago that was, people would be like, why does she keep saying she's Filipino?
Starting point is 00:50:00 Or why does she keep talking about the Philippines? It's because I grew up with a lot of Filipinos having a lot of shame about being Filipino. Because, you know, it's like the colonized mind, right? We revere Western culture, we revere whiteness. We've been colonized for 400 something years. And I- It's relevant too.
Starting point is 00:50:17 But it was so, like, it was something like, it was a place I grew up in, had like, continued to have like fond memories of. So like, she won't shut up about being Filipino. I'll never shut up about it. I love who I am. I love where I was born. And that's just it.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And also until white men stop talking about being proud, you don't have to do anything. Thank you. And you should double down. I thought you were going to say white men going to the Philippines and being passport bros. I'm like, down. I thought you were gonna say white men going to the Philippines and getting like, being passport bros. I'm like, oh, I think my dad was a passport.
Starting point is 00:50:48 And we support that. Yeah. Thank you. For you and your daddy. For your daddy. Should there be an appetizer served or should all the food be laid out at once? Get to the fucking food. Well, my- Get to the food.
Starting point is 00:51:02 My step-papa, he makes deviled eggs and he makes them really well. Roger, shout out. And so I don't mind an appetizer. Okay, but you can eat it at the same time as the food. It doesn't need to be beforehand. Hold on, she's very mistaken right now. We need to help her.
Starting point is 00:51:18 That is not an appetizer. That is a spread, a part of a spread. What is an appetizer? An appetizer is like a small. Like you're sitting down and they're like, here's your soup. Yeah. And you only have the soup.
Starting point is 00:51:29 The fact that you're saying soup is an appetizer, but a deviled egg is not, is like blowing my mind. It's whatever. She didn't make the rules. It's whatever comes before the entree. I actually did just pick it up. Poo-poos. Poo-poos.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Whatever comes before the entree is an aperitif Okay, I guess I don't know that word cuz I don't drink and it feels like it's an aperitif Yeah, oh it is I thought it was a drink that's a perol spritz Can't you have an aperitif? That's like a drink like Yeah, like I a Gia G. HIA that brand. That's a non-alcoholic. Apertise? Aperol. Because Aperts. What's Apertise?
Starting point is 00:52:11 An Apertise is an alcoholic beverage or before a meal. Wrong, Kaila. It's a non-alcoholic appetizer. She's correct. Yeah, and it has like gentian root in it and yeah. Well. You're thinking of appetizer. No, that's what Kalyla was thinking.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Yeah, I was thinking, I got it wrong. Yes. I've never been right before. I live with faith. We'll find a way to make this wrong. Um, what about mashed potatoes? Do we want them extremely smooth or lumpy clumpy junky? Lumpy clumpy junky.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Honestly either, but my dad used to, we used to do Thanksgiving at my house and my dad's a chef and he would do the lumpy clumpy. Yeah, I'm into the more smashed potatoes. And with the skin. And with the skin. Oh, skin is, now that's high class. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:59 You're in an expensive household if there's skin in there. Do you know how there's like this whole movement against cyber trucks? Do you see that on TikTok? No way. I didn't know there was a movement, I just thought it was like obvious. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:53:12 They suck. I know, but someone recently, there was a good comment. Someone said that it looked like someone tried to peel a potato with a knife. That's what it looks like. Just like how jagged it is. Oh my god, that is good.
Starting point is 00:53:29 That is so, that's exactly what it looks like. It is just like driving around being like, I'm a baby and this is my car. It's like, mama. And I can't see and I don't care. And then someone also said about Elon Musk's body. Someone said he has an autopsy body. Wait, is that because he's bloated? An autopsy body, someone commented that
Starting point is 00:53:54 and I could not stop laughing. That is so funny. That is, and honestly, I will not stand for any slander except if it's on Elon Musk's physical body That's the only insults that I think are acceptable. What is this hand lotion? Oh, thank you. Oh my god My hands are dry. We actually I do want some I change my mind because this oil sucks Okay, so lumpy potatoes is where we landed Yes, we like lumpy potatoes for sure. Oh
Starting point is 00:54:22 So like you're using all the parts of it like you were meant to. Okay. I have the green bean casserole. Can you guys explain to me why that's a thing and why it's good? I don't know, I'm not into it. Oh, this is your anti-white casserole like propaganda.
Starting point is 00:54:38 No, because my stepdad makes a broccoli cheddar casserole that is so delicious. Does it have chicken too? Does it have Velveeta cheese? I think it does have Velveeta. That is the key. But it also has Ritz crackers in it. Ooh, that's very white.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I love a green bean casserole. I love a broccoli cheddar casserole. Green bean casserole, sounds. I like green beans. I just don't understand why it has to be in a form of a, what makes it a casserole? Just the dish that it comes in? The dish, the adding- adding the toppings, the baking factor of it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:13 You know. Sell me on it. Yeah, I just- I think a green bean casserole is right for you and your family at this time, and for $3.99, you can get- if you want to upgrade to the $4.99 model of green bean casserole. Are you making green bean casserole? I actually am selling them this thing. And sluggies, if you go to greenbeancasseroles.com slash Esther, use my code.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Use my code, scam. I think that if I'm being completely honest, I, on Thanksgiving, really want to load heavy on the sides. Let's be honest, turkey is dry as fuck. Mac and cheese is good. No, that's not a Thanksgiving side. That was the craziest thing you've ever said. It can be, Esther.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yes it is, why was it not? It's not a side at Thanksgiving. It's a side for everything. Have you ever been to Boston Market? Yeah, exactly. That was the only thing that came to mind when you said mac and cheese is a side. It's literally a side at Thanksgiving. It's a side for everything. Have you ever been to Boston Market? Yeah, exactly. That was the only thing that came to mind when you said mac and cheese is a side. It's literally a side.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Esther, you're literally losing your mind. Mac and cheese is a side for all occasions. Mac and cheese is a centerpiece of a meal. It's not a side. It's a pasta. It's a dish. It's, no, no, no. Your Lexapro is working too much.
Starting point is 00:56:21 No, it's not a Thanksgiving side. You couldn't do- It's anything side. You just think that because of Boston Market, and I get it. It's not a Thanksgiving side. You couldn't do anything. You just think that because of Boston Market and I get it, Boston Market did a great job marketing mac and cheese as a side that goes with rotisserie chicken. It's not a side at Thanksgiving. Big mac and cheese a side.
Starting point is 00:56:33 One Thanksgiving side a side. Yes it is, I'm sorry. Thank you, looks like three to one, you done. I, you think that I'm that insecure that three people telling me I'm wrong means anything to me? About what we're talking about? Mac and fucking cheese? What's another side? You said mashed potatoes?
Starting point is 00:56:49 Mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, green beans. Carb, carb, carb, carb. Mac and cheese is a carb. But it's not a Thanksgiving side. Girl, you've done this hell. You know, you might be right in that I really don't have knowledge about Thanksgiving sides. Me too. That's right. And I hate.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Neither do you. I am the only white woman at this couch, in this lounge. And Dona, and I bet she thinks mac and cheese is a side. Oh, well Dona likes cheese. You're going side heavy this Thanksgiving. Yeah. And no turkey decides.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I've always identified as a side queen. I think turkey is just, it's never that good. And I love Thanksgiving and I will have I'll try the turkey every time and I will go in with a good attitude, but I will know that. It's just it's not going to it's going to be dry. Attitude is the most important thing, but I'm still happy because the sides are everything right. What about the gravy? Isn't that to moisten it? Yeah, but I add all the gravy on all my sides.
Starting point is 00:57:47 My mom, the next day, she takes the bones and like the leftover meat. And just eats them? And then she eats the bones. Your mom would, and she'd be fine. You've not seen her eat. She takes apart, she cracks the bones in half and she sucks the flavor.
Starting point is 00:58:02 My mom does that too. But that's not what I was gonna say. And the grizzle just. Yeah, but she takes it and she turns into Paxio. Paxio is a Filipino way of taking whatever scrap of meat from the day before, whether it's like lechon or whatever meat, and then you put it in, turn it into like an adobo, kind of like a stew.
Starting point is 00:58:20 That's so good. And it's really good for breakfast. Sorry, I almost died. Yeah. Yeah. Thinking's really good for breakfast. Sorry, I almost died. Thinking about the stew for breakfast. But it's really good breakfast food and it's very... Yeah, because everywhere else in the world they eat actual good food for breakfast. Yeah, and we eat fish for breakfast. Yeah, you have like meal and stew for breakfast. Why don't you guys eat fish for breakfast here? Because we have fruit loops.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I got my second ugh from Stella. We have Oreo cookies for breakfast cause our government wants us to die early. I do chicken sausage. Sorry, I just died. We eat cookie crisps. Wait, do you guys not start every day? What's so funny?
Starting point is 00:59:06 No way! What's so funny? She's so stupid! That was like... What? She's so dumb out there. Why? Say it! She wanted to add a statement.
Starting point is 00:59:22 On top of what I said. She wanted to add a statement She's just like I know she's stupid She just says nothing What are we supposed to say to that? Good job, stupid ass! It's so bad that literally neither one of you could not throw me under the bus or just save me or save... It was so... you know what the energy was?
Starting point is 00:59:54 I like turtles. I like turtles. That's exactly... She goes, I eat chicken sausage. Wait, by the way, is everyone in this room telling me that they don't start every morning with a big bowl of cookie crisp? I eat chicken sausage? Wait, is this true? You don't have cookie crisp every morning?
Starting point is 01:00:15 That's disgusting, you don't do that. I start my day off with bananas, is that a surprise to anyone? No, it's not. That's why this podcast is thriving, because you invented the banana break. And truly, like, I come here and I eat. Did you just die? I died again. The engine stopped.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I come here and I eat two more bananas, and I do go home thinking, I think I am overloaded. This wasn't a good idea. But I know you, you can't say no. No, and I take all the uneaten bananas home. Do you eat your bananas plain? What else to eat them with? Chocolate or peanut butter?
Starting point is 01:00:51 Eggs? Blasphemy. I could do peanut butter. I could do peanut butter, but typically I just eat a banana or put it in a smoothie. Do you want me to tell you what I do for my mornings? No. What? Bitch, you're the first person who asks me what I do every morning. No, that's why I actually know what you do.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I start out with some warm water. Oh my God. Okay, because your body needs warmth for digestion. Then I put a little bit of warm water with apple cider vinegar. But do you really do that every day? I did it this morning. I usually do it every morning, yes.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Sometimes I don't do the apple cider vinegar, but always the warm water. Why? Always the it this morning. I usually do it every morning, yes. Sometimes I don't do the apple cider vinegar, but always the warm water. Why, how do you warm it up? I mean, you could do a pot, you could do a kettle. There's many ways to do this. That's not the hard part. Let's skip past that.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Then I turn my pan on. I get a piece of frozen bread that I've either cut, sourdough, gluten-free. Do you think you're on like Vogue 15 questions or whatever right now? And then I start the chicken sausage. Hi, Arc Die Chest. I'm Jenna and this is my breakfast.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Hey Cribs. Hey. Remember when Atsuko said she was the first person on Cribs who was a renter? So cool. That was the funniest thing I've ever heard. That's crazy. Is that a real thing?
Starting point is 01:02:03 I don't know. That they're like doing renters now. I don't know, I think that might Is that a real thing? I don't know. That they're doing renters now? I don't know, I think that might have been a joke. Can I go back really quick to the fish question, Kalyla, and just tell you that, like, must I remind you that you're half Japanese and that Japanese people eat fish for breakfast? I know, but I was raised by a Japanese dad
Starting point is 01:02:19 that was raised by white people. But I will say that I think it's just, we're all sugar addicts and thinking about having a fish, smelliness, all that stuff. Why does fish have to be smelly? You're not eating good fish. I don't know, that's why I'm- Ooh, this is a fight!
Starting point is 01:02:38 This is a fucking fight! Oh shit! I'm like a Look at Donut! Donut, sorry. Your mom has lost it. Oh my God! The show might not be here next week. Man. Okay, so go ahead Stella, say it with your whole chest.
Starting point is 01:02:56 I just think that- Bunch of bad fish. Maybe, in this economy, maybe I don't have good fish, but it's also like, I think fish in the morning is crazy. It's like bad, so it's too potent a smell in the morning. In the morning, I want it to be like sugary and light and fluffy, but this could be American culture. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:14 What about egg and chicken sausage and avocado and toast? I think that in American culture, you guys are used to cereal, right? Everywhere else in the world, or at least in like Asia where I grew up, it's eat rice, eat an egg. You can match that egg with, with longanisa, chorizo, fish, but there's always that protein
Starting point is 01:03:35 and that rice. And fruit too. And fruit, but then like papaya. Yeah, not in the rice. No, no, no, just like available. No, I, I'm with you. They weren't clear. They were not fucking clear with you.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Okay, I will represent you in this case. I wish that I had fish for breakfast. I really do, but I'm with Stella. It's just really hard when you grew up watching cartoons and eating cereal to transition over to that. Wait a second, but you are Jewish and you guys like lox. And gefilte fish. And honestly that, you know how sometimes you rebelled
Starting point is 01:04:10 against your own culture? That's what happened with me. Lox smells disgusting to me. I love lox and I love the smell. Dave loves it, he has it all the time. And I'm just like, really? Yeah, I don't know. It's so weird.
Starting point is 01:04:22 It's like lox and cream cheese in a bagel is like the most disgusting sight to me. Like I'd rather eat your boogers than that. It's so gross. Wow, you just took it to like the worst, what? You think that's the worst? That could do way worse, girl. You would rather eat boogers?
Starting point is 01:04:39 You need to be done. You know I dated like a booger eater for 10 years. Bobby Lee. Yeah. Just say the name. That's upsetting. I mean, he likes his salty savories. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I take it back on the walks. But I do appreciate what you're saying, Stella. I think that it's just how you grew up. Whatever you grew up eating is what you're going to associate with breakfast. I said that. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I grew up in Vermont,
Starting point is 01:05:08 which is the whitest state in the country, even though it is the most progressive, it's the whitest, let's not forget. Maple syrup. Honestly, Jenna, you are giving very Vermont and sound off in the comments. You will remind me of every Vermonter I've ever met. I don't know that that's a compliment. No it is.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Huge compliment. I've never been to Vermont, but I just know that's where I would be my best self. And they'd probably kick me out. Let's take her there. Let's go to the- Let's bring her there. Let's take a trip. Okay, Stella, take us around Vermont.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Oh my God, yeah. I've never been. Isn't there that festival that happens every year? Yeah, so my dad actually used to be one of the organizers. It's called Bread and Puppet. And you make puppets and you eat bread and everyone's on hallucinogenics and you walk through a field.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Wow. That sounds fun. But there's another festival there. Oh! And my friend Kara used to go to. You get high, you do puppets. Like what? Isn't it like the Dairy Festival? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Sorry, I was raised by hippies. Vermont Dairy Festival is hosted by the Falls Lines Club. Yeah, it's like an every year thing. The 64 years going. Oh, yeah. I've never been, but I know about it. I'm just over here, just, I'm sorry. Look at these ding-dongs on their phones. The show is not over. No, no, I'm looking I'm specifically looking up She's looking for and I was looking the dairy festival and then I got carried away
Starting point is 01:06:33 So you're right. Where are you from Jenna? Just out of curiosity. Shy City, bitch It's just I've changed the way that I've spoken Because when I went to college, I Think this is a good conversation to have actually. Jenna used to speak very differently. Yeah. What does that mean? And I think as did I, because when I first, in high school,
Starting point is 01:06:53 I really, really was like, I went to Blair High School, it was like mostly Latino and black. Yeah, you probably spoke like a Latina and I spoke culturally black. My school was 70% black and you kind of speak like how all your friends do. Yeah, you probably spoke like a Latina and I spoke culturally black. My school was 70% black and you kind of speak like how all your friends do. My brother spoke like me, my dad speaks like, you know, how he does. And so...
Starting point is 01:07:14 Wait, sorry, I know you're talking about some important cultural shit. That's fine. We'll talk about that on the Patreon. I have something to bring to the table that is more important. And I think you'll all agree once I share. There better be some good shit. We have a submission for someone who wants to date Stella. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:07:37 May I read it aloud? Yes. Wait, so a couple episodes ago. Many more than a couple. It was like a year ago at this point. We asked the audience, it's like, well, we, Esther and I said that Stella is not allowed to choose her, the next person she dates because she's a bad picker. She's really, really terrible at choosing.
Starting point is 01:07:56 So Esther and I were like, we'll find you a husband. So here we are. Okay, so someone I know wants to tell me about his friend, Rob. Okay. Meet Rob, a 32 year old photographer and videographer who's bringing his Chicago warmth to the vibrant streets of Brooklyn. After calling Tinley Park home, Rob made the big move to New York around three years ago,
Starting point is 01:08:18 looking for new experiences and connections. He's a kindhearted, soft-spoken guy with a hopeful romantic spirit, always on the lookout for that special someone to share life's adventures with. Did you say he wants a job? That's funny. Though he's not the most confident person,
Starting point is 01:08:34 he's constantly working on himself, stepping outside his comfort zone and building new friendships. You'll often find him at local run clubs, staying active, hot, exploring the city and meeting like-minded people. Rob is the kind of guy who's over the dating app scene and is seeking a real connection with someone
Starting point is 01:08:48 who appreciates sincerity, kindness, and a little old fashioned romance. If you enjoy exploring the city, staying active, or just having meaningful conversations, Rob might be the person you're looking for. Did he write this? No, this is written by our mutual friend, my friend Nico. Okay, so there's someone who knows him.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Yeah, so this was not written by him. So that's better, right? Cause that'd be cheesy if you wrote it by himself. Yeah, I was worried that he had written this himself in third person, which is like so red flaggy. And I think the reason they mentioned the confidence thing is probably so that they could have a reason for why they were reaching out for him.
Starting point is 01:09:19 But I will say like, at our age, you don't- Star looks disgusted. I'm not disgusted, I don't really know how to feel. That's just how your face looks. I think it's... Wait, I think he's hot. Can I see? Hold on.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Hold on, you nasty fucks. We are nasty fucks. I mean, you guys, I think he's hot. Me too, me too. This is like a weird video of him, but he's like, he's cute. Yeah, yeah he is. Oh, I like him.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I think Stella only dates, you only date white boys though. Sorry, sorry did I out you? No, she'll be open to whatever we say. I'm trying to explore different ethnicities. Okay. Oh, he's cute. Yeah, he's cute, he's cute. He cute, let me see. Okay, well, let's cute. Yeah, he's cute. He's he's cute. He's cute. Let me see. Okay. Well
Starting point is 01:10:06 Let's see what happens next week. I'm gonna interview him. Yes. Yes. And also you guys keep your DM I Don't want them to DM the trash Tuesday Well who will Ariel can you sort through it cuz I don't want Stella to look at it Cuz she's gonna be too picky. Also, if you know of a good guy, you can nominate. Yeah. The good guy. DM the Trash Tuesday account. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Find Stella husband 2025. Yeah. And happy Thanksgiving and we love you guys. Wait, let's all plug our little thingies. Okay. I'm going to go first. I have a solo podcast. It's called group therapy and you can subscribe on Substack at estersgrouptherapy.substack.com.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Next. Jenna. I have Bi-Tia Jenna Pistop Deodorant, a great gift for Thanksgiving. I got you on this. This is the only deodorant that I've used for the past 10 years of my life. Like, you guys know I'm the sweatiest person alive. I got you on this. I've been, this is the only deodorant that I've used for the past 10 years of my life.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Like you guys know I'm the sweatiest person alive. The wrong scent could turn my funk the funkiest. And this is so clean, so beautiful scented, beautifully scented. Do a demo. There we go. And Jenna, where can they get this? Why is Esther's hair everywhere?
Starting point is 01:11:28 That's not. Yeah. Mm, I smell so good. I actually love the smell so much. You wanna put it on there, you wanna get it in the corners everywhere a stick would get. Where do we buy it? Buytigenna.com, that's B-Y-T-I-A-J-E-N-N-A dot com.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Or you can go to my- Are we leaving in? There's another piece of hair here. Okay, well what do you want me to wish? You can go to my Instagram, Jenna Joumenes. I have a little link in the bio. Or you can go to- I love the smell.
Starting point is 01:12:02 It smells really good you guys. Buy Tia Jenna Instagram, but the smell does go away once it starts eating your. Yeah, but that's what you want. You want to smell like yourself. You don't want to smell like some over-scented thing. While they're doing this, I'd like to plug Ebb Ocean Club.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Go away. Go to Ebb Ocean Club on Instagram or ebboceanclub.com. I started a hair care line, you guys. And I just saw it in my bathroom this morning and I was like, why does it look so cute? Thank you, it's Reef Safe, it's hyper clean, it's got all the good stuff, none of the nasties. I hate scents and it smells good.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Thank you, it is Shiso, Yuzu, Moss, the middle notes. Well, you can. It's such a good Christmas gift from one slug to another. It is. It's a good everything gift, because it'll get used, everyone needs it. Thank you. And if you want to know what I smell like every day,
Starting point is 01:12:55 go buy Ebb, and that's exactly what I smell like. It's like you're showering with Kalyla. That's why I smell it every morning, to think of Kalyla, is how she smells. And then she's- That's what I do. Now, now she's let me in. So now it's really going, going good, good, good. Sluggies, we love you.
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Starting point is 01:13:39 Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. And we have a podcast on the channels here called second in command We were formerly a Veep rewatch podcast But now we watch any movie with a president or vice president in it and we bring on an interesting funny
Starting point is 01:13:53 Cool person to talk about that movie and this week who do we have Tim? We have star of stage and screen Kristen Bell you might know her from Veronica Mars from from Forgetting Sarah Marshall, from The Good Place or the more recent Nobody Wants This. And what movie did she pick, Tim? She picked the 2006 movie Idiocracy, which has nothing to do with our current circumstances. No, no, it did not predict what we were going to live through starting January. Anyways, it's fun and I'm really excited
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