Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Angela White on How to Use a Guy in 10 Ways - Ep 143

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

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undress. Yeah. What are you hoping to see? Boxers, briefs, or tighty-whities? Boxers. Oh my God. Yes.

Wait, you mean, Angela, loose boxers? Why are they loose? Okay. Boxer briefs. Like the ones that are tight? No, you... Yeah, they're not loose.

Oh, yes. No? This is so much better. That does not mean what you think it means. She said loose. She said lose. She was shocked. Yeah, but.

She was shocked because it was even an option. You guys, we have merch and it's live right now. And it's so cute. I can't breathe. Christmas, Christmas. I'm Hanukkah. Christmas, Christmas. We have a holiday merch drop.

And there's a baby pink hoodie that is so cute. I cannot wait to get my hands on it at the same time you guys get it. And you can find all of our cute new holiday merch launch at itstrashtuesday.com. And honestly, we all like we never usually agree on things. We're all obsessed with this launch. We're so excited. It's so cute. I squealed when I saw that pink hoodie. Like it's never leaving my body. Also like guys, we give you permission to go to an ugly sweater contest, our party in our sweatshirt, our Christmas sweatshirt because we are sexy little ugly girls. So it counts. We have a holiday sweatshirt, a crew neck sweatshirt, and then we have the cutest little like, is it kind of like Asian--y is that okay to say i'm asian yeah everyone gets a pass that makes me so it's a little ravery like if you wore it with like one

of those ball necklaces and jankos it would look really cute oh that's a good and a studded belt so good buns with space buns you got your asian part in okay you guys go to it's trash tuesday.com for our merch drop that is officially live today these These will sell out. We can't wait to see your selfies in them and repost you. Tag us. We love you. Yay. York. I'm coming back. I'm doing two small shows in New York the week before Thanksgiving, November 18th and November 22nd. And then I'll be in Los Angeles. Finally, I'm adding an LA show December 6th at the Comedy Store. And then my rescheduled San Jose, January 7th. All of those, esteronice.com. You guys, sluggies, I am so excited. I am coming back to San Jose this weekend I'm bringing Lizzie Cooperman with me it's going to be absolutely wild so that's this Friday and Saturday then I'm going

to be in Houston Texas at the Improv December 15th through 17th I'm going to be in Canada in Edmonton January 12th to 13th and Jacksonville Florida at the Comedy Zone January 19th and 20th I am constantly adding shows so go to Annie Letterman.com slash shows to check those out. And Annie Wood and Friends is once a month at the Comedy Store. So look for those dates as well. And I will see you every Thursday on Annie Wood. Love you guys. Thank you to our sponsor, MeUndies. To get 25% off your first order plus free shipping, go to MeUndies.com slash Trash Tuesday. That's MeUndies.com slash Trash Tuesday for 25% off plus free shipping. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Find your bright spot this season with BetterHelp. Visit

betterhelp.com slash Trash Tuesday today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P.com slash Trash Tuesday. Thank you to our sponsor, PrizePix. Go to prizepix.com slash trash Tuesday and use code trash Tuesday for a first deposit match up to $100. PrizePix, daily fantasy sports made easy. You guys, take advantage of Living Proof's biggest sale of the year now. Go to livingproof.com slash trash Tuesday and use the code trash Tuesday 25 at checkout to get in on these deals before it's too late. Living proof.com slash trash Tuesday code trash Tuesday 25. Kalilah, for your birthday, I got you Angela White. Thank you so much, Esther. For your birthday, I got you titties so brown.

Well, here, we did, since Angela is our guest today, Annie did try to contour my A-cups, and now I just look like... You have a skin infection? Yes. Something that I'm peeling somewhere on my chest. So thank you, Annie, for the birthday gift. You know who probably knows the least about titty contouring is Angela White, because she doesn't need that. You know who probably knows the least about titty contouring is Angela White.

Because she doesn't need that. No, I've never contoured my titties. You're just this way. Yeah. Welcome to our show. Thank you for inviting me. When I first walked into the studio and I saw her, I was like, who is this beautiful angel? She's so pretty. I just, I'm a little bit,

I think I'm going to be like how Bobby was on Tiger Belly where I'm just going to be like, hey, nervous to talk to you. Like, I've never seen Bobby that way. Had you ever seen him that way? No. Yeah. Him and Gilbert were just like beside themselves. They could not, like, I, it was strange. The energy was so was so like you know bobby's like big energy it was even bigger there was some type of like i i it felt like he was like juggling the whole time like and also trying to talk to you but focusing on juggling like yeah um is he like is he are they like like long time fans is it like yeah but didn't Bobby say

like he's like once I know you I can no longer be a fan or something like that yeah but he did take it back when I said well you know I feel like that's unfair

because I would still support him and see and like watch his stand up shows yeah yeah so he should still support me yeah he should support your craft

yeah that's funny is it fair to say he was brown star struck what Yeah, yeah. So he should still support me. Yeah. He should support your craft. That's funny. Is it fair to say he was brown star struck? What? He was brown star struck? Because he's seen her butt? No, I think in that episode she saw his brown star. Oh, we have seen a lot of his things. There are interesting colors down there in Bobby world, aren't there?

I thought his butthole was very nice. Like, I mean. It really is, though. Yeah. It's incredible. It was surprisingly tight. He's kind of, like, surprising, a lot of things about him. You think he's going to be messier than, because he presents outwardly messy?

No, no, no. He's messy. No, I know, like, physically messy, but you'd think his body would be messy. Oh, no, no, no. He has no body odor. Like, he does his armpits never stink. He's messy. No, I know. Like physically messy, but you'd think his body would be messy. He has no body odor. Like he does his armpits never stink. It's unfair. I just love that he has this lifelong policy where he's like, if I met you, I can't watch

your stuff anymore. And then all you had to do is be like, that's not fair. And he's like, okay, never mind. It's like over. He defers to the hotness. What's your theme today? I think it's sleepover, slumber party, pajama party. How do you sleep?

Angela, how do you sleep at night? What do you wear? It really depends on the weather and my mood, but I'm partial to some PJs. Really? Yeah. I don't like to sleep totally nude because they go everywhere. I need to have them contained in something like a crop top or something. I know that it doesn't seem like place, like a crop top or something.

I know that it doesn't seem like it, but I do relate to that. Like, I really do identify as a woman with extremely large breasts, even though they're, like, humble bees. And I don't want to ruffle any feathers, but I do believe that large breasts are a form of a disability. They're so uncomfortable. I agree. You're like, oh, that is so uncomfortable. I'm getting a tax write-off hanging out with your boobs. But do you, isn't it, like, I could never go shirtless sleeping because, like, it would

just be so messy. Okay, so when you guys like lay down they're just kind of like separate and does it hurt does it pull it doesn't hurt but it i mean they do separate they do they do all sorts of things they've got their they live their own life when they're out i just like to have the support of something whether it's a bra or like crop top or something just keeping them in line. They need to be controlled. Oh, I like that.

Yeah. Keeping them in line. They need to be disciplined. Oh, it's getting hotter. I feel like they're on different moods. Wait, I don't have symmetrical breasts either. Mine are symmetrical and small. I don't have to worry about that ever. Well, mine are tiny, but when I lay flat, they still somehow separate to the side and

that's not a look that I love. I think mine are already wide set. I have, like, wide set. You don't. You don't. I have wide set. We both. Maybe it's the shoulders and the tits go together.

We both have, like, we're the shoulders of them. The tits follow the line of the shoulder. But I think you kind of remind me of my friend Caitlin from middle school. Like, she had, like, really big boobs, but they actually like technically weren't that big. Yeah, they're not big. She was short. She was small. So like your boobs on my body would look like probably kind of similar.

Like your boobs. Yeah. Are your boobs really a B? I don't, like a B or a C. No, no way. When you grow up, no way. But they're not like huge. I mean, look, I prayed for boobs.

This is not exactly what I wanted, but I landed somewhere okay. You know you just wanted someone else's boobs on your face. You're just gay. I prayed for boobs. You did? Yeah, I did. Yeah. I felt like I developed late compared to my friends. Like, I was really flat-chested until suddenly it felt like overnight I had double Ds. And yeah, I used to cry at night to my mom, like, that I didn't have boobs. Did your mom have big boobs? Yes. My mom has big boobs.

My sister, my cousin. So the pressure was on. Oh my God. My mom's mom has big boobs. My dad's mom has big boobs. And here I was with nothing. You were like the runt of the family. Yeah, I was like, come on, please.

But when you did finally get them, was it like a big celebration? Like, oh my God. Or were you like oh fuck what do i do with these it was a bit of both i was so excited to finally have boobs and the power that they brought but then they grew so quickly that they also came with these really large purple stretch marks which i was embarrassed about so it was like oh now i have these big boobs so i know i can get what i want. But also, but also. But what I want is these lines to go away.

Do you feel, sorry, do you feel like you're someone that would ever consider, because a lot of my girlfriends who are like, you know, actually have big boobs, not like me that pretends, would you consider a breast reduction? Like, is it like that for you or no? They're part of my identity. Okay. Yeah. I don't know who I would be without my boobs.

Your boobs are part of her identity too. I always patted my butt. My mom had a tumor in her pituitary gland when she was growing up. So she like didn't develop normally. So she had small boobs, but I thought it was associated to that. And so I just assumed I would be like the- Check your pituitary, Annie. I would be like,

I'm the titties in this family because she was adopted. I was like, I'm going to start the tits in this family. And then I would pad them with socks as I did today. Annie would.

Annie fucking Letterman socks. You can get them on my website. These exact pairs from the titties? Yes, since I was a child. Can I buy these? Yes, you can have these ones. No, but I would pad with socks and stuff

and I would look in the mirror and I would spend so much time like, what am I going to look like this? And then I never, like, this is a water bra. I just never got them. They still have water bras. But that's a part of my identity, never getting them.

Oh. So I understand that. My expectations were managed very early on because I had a, you either have a nakey mom or not a nakey mom, right? You either have parents that walk around naked or parents that are just always fully dressed around you. You don't seem like you had a Nakey mom. I just, I hate the term Nakey mom. I had a Nakey mom.

And if you had a Nakey mom, there's only one way to describe it. And it's a Nakey mom, right? It's like the bush. You saw the bush every day. You saw the titties every day. You saw them look at themselves in the mirror, nakey. And I looked at my mom's body and mind you, she's like, like a bodybuilder. Right. But so I knew very early on that I was never going to have boobs. So when I, when they never grew, it wasn't a disappointment. It was like, oh, I am her daughter. This is a weird thing. My mom has no boobs, but me and my sister both do, and we have different dads. So it's like we both got big boobs, like, despite my mom having them. And no big boob in her lineage? What?

No big boobs in your mom's lineage? Yeah, does your mom's mom have big boobs? Like, in Angela's family, like, it seemed like everyone had big boobs. I don't really think of my grandma that way. I don't know. I don't look at her that way. You never, like, I feel like grandmas are all about big boobs. I don't really think of my grandma that way. I don't know. I don't look at her that way. You never like, I feel like grandmas are all about the boobs, like snuggling into their boobs and hugging their boobs.

My first grade aide, Kia, had like the best boobs in the world. Would you just hug her and you'd bounce. And I hate to say this, Esther, but at some point, like we have to see our parents like genitals, like a la fresca because when we take care of them when they're older, like I had to confront my father's penis and change his diaper at some point so it's like i heard it i saw you suck in there i saw a reaction no one is ready and i hate to say this like this is such i hate that i have to even say this out loud but there is a thought in your head that crosses where you're like, oh, Papa is hung. Oh, my God.

Kalilah. Kalilah. That didn't cross my mind when I saw my dad. I went, oh. Papa is not hung or he's hung? No, no, no, no. I just said I remember it being bigger. It's like when you go into your auditorium that you went in your elementary school.

I was like, oh, I guess I got bigger. This adjusted. How do you guys sleep? How does it, do you sleep? With how we just spoke about our parents' genitals? Yeah, but I feel like, how do you sleep at night? I have to sleep with panties on because I have to. Like my pussy, where's my pussy?

She was going to go just crust up on my inner thigh. I understand that. I'm so sorry. I know Stella's mom is here. I'm so sorry. She loves it. I'm so sorry. I know Stella's mom is here. She loves it. I'm so sorry. Speaking of parents' genitals, anything you want to show us? I cannot sleep in underwear. Free the juice. I feel like you have to sleep with it on your face or something weird. Why? Dad, do you sleep? I sleep naked if possible. As naked as possible.

Like if there's people in the room that are not my loved ones or not. Well, my parents, I don't sleep naked in front of them. I will still like hoist up. My mother-in-law and I, Todd's mom and I will like FaceTime with just like our sheets on. She's always topless. I'm always like we're always just topless to each other. You know why? You know why?

She's a nakey mom. She's a nakey mom and she's also going through menopause. Oh, she's hot. And hot. And hot. And it's like, show us the tits. Don't hide them. Does Todd sleep naked with you? No, he sleeps with underwear on. But I, yeah, no, I have to, no, everything's, it's not hot. I have to have tape on my mouth so I don't mouth breathe and like a nose thing on. It's not a good looking thing. Angela, I know on Tiger Belly, we, you said you didn't know what dating meant yeah but what is it like being a porn girl and being interested in a boy like how does that work out like what are the rules that you strike with them what's been your history of dating it's usually someone's

interested in me like I'm so focused on work all the time that someone has to kind of like knock down my door and be like, hey, I'm interested in you for me. Can you imagine? No, it's opposite for us, right? Yeah. Like stand up. Like no one is knocking. But if they are, it's like, how did you get my address, sir? The cops are going to be here in a second. No, they're like, how did you start open mics? Like, what's it like? They're like asking for advice. Do you have guys do that to you where they like hit you up and then they want to do porn?

Yeah. And it's usually at conventions. I'll do conventions to meet fans and so many of the fans like, I want to get into porn. How do I get into porn? Just like awkward because it is really difficult for men to get into porn. It's much easier for women. Joanne's like, sign me up. It's so interesting that we're talking about male porn.

What is it? It's easier to get into gay porn than it is straight porn. Huh. Yeah. But then isn't it harder to go back into straight porn once you've gone into gay porn? Like you have to like. It used to be, but that stigma has really changed. Because everything's changed yeah yeah it's it's not as big of a deal anymore your makeup's so good i know you're staring at your mouth move i'm like oh my god i'm like is this a date like

wait do you go on dates i don't know you don't know what dating means some people after that episode have kind of explained it to me a little bit more so I guess I didn't really understand the difference between going on a date and dating right like at what point like how many dates until you're dating

and is dating serious or is dating casual isn't something when you say you're dating someone is it like does that insinuate that there's a future there or is dating casual? Is it something, when you say you're dating someone, is it, like, does that insinuate that there's a future there or is that just, oh no, we're just dating? Those are fair questions. Like, who does know that? Because, yeah, dating could actually mean

like we're boyfriend-girlfriend or we're just dating. Yeah. And I like when guys tell me that right before I'm about to meet their entire friends from college. We're just dating? Yeah, right when he was like, you're meeting all my friends, by the way, we're just dating. Wait right when he was like you're meeting all my friends by the way we're just dating wait so i didn't know that either because i um i was dating a guy and in front of my family i was like oh like we've been dating and he was so offended by that he was like no we're not like i'm meeting your fam same thing yeah but i didn't understand it

either i was like wait what what do you remember hooking up used to mean like just making out? What? Yeah, hooking up is just hooking up. What do you mean hooking up is just hooking up? Hooking up is just casual sex occasionally, like a friends with benefits. But remember when it transitioned from like, I remember in middle school, hooking up was like, it was just making out. I remember watching Laguna Beach and me and all my friends at school were like,

what does hooking up mean? Is it sex or not? Yeah. I think for sure it's always sex. There's also seeing each other. Like, where does that fit in? Oh, we're seeing each other. Seeing each other, I think, is a good boundary.

Yeah. Who do you mean? Is that us? We're serious. We're seeing each other. But if you're seeing each other, are you boyfriend and girlfriend? Not yet. You're like starter.

Like it's on its way. Like in Filipino courtship, there's five very clear steps. And this is why there's no confusion in Filipino dating. And over here, everyone's confused. What are the five steps? The five steps is before courtship, you have to ask permission to court. So let's say for instance i'm interested in angela okay i can't immediately just say i like you i have to say i'm am i allowed

to say i like you oh that's good am i about to humiliate you or not yeah am i going to humiliate you or are you going to humiliate me right now yeah so there's that first step it's asking permission can i court you and if you say yes then the courtship happens. Then I do this thing called a harana where I serenade you. Wait, you're courting. I'm courting. It's either outside of your window and I'm either, if I can't play an instrument,

I'll play a song. I'm out. No, no, no, no, no. This is good. There's a spider video I watched this weekend that I need to show you guys. We have to pull up. Wait, I'm- About spiders like- Courting each other? How they-

It's crazy. And it's how men should be. They do the dance. The dancing? I love that. They're like birds of paradise. Yes. And it's like, what are those type of spider?

I both don't want to serenade nor be serenaded. But then there is- You just want to show up and- And then just fall into each other's genitals. But this is why there's no confusion because after the courtship progresses, then if not the serenade, you have to put some type of like soft launch statement. Either like if it's social media, like something to insinuate, oh, like you're seeing somebody.

And then you enter the stage of mutual understanding. You're not exclusive yet, but we're not sleeping with other people. Three is the soft launch. It can be, it's interchangeable. Because before social media, what was a soft launch? Like showing or taking them to see your family? Yeah, so the harana is, it's basically a public showing that I am interested in this girl and people are watching me sing to this girl.

That's a commitment. It's like, yeah. And they should be dancing. This isn't the one. I'm trying to find that. Oh, that is it. Wait. They like wave and then they shoot this thing.

It's like. And after you enter mutual understanding, M.U., then you are official. Okay. But there's a, between mutual understanding, we're not sleeping with other people to finally official. There's space there. So you stop sleeping with other people before you become boyfriend and girlfriend. And how do you come to the mutual understanding? You say, are we mutually understanding?

Yes. Peacock spider. So cute. I love a step system. That makes things so much less complicated. But also just know what it does. It shows commitment. It's going like, I really want to pursue you and make sure you're really interested in pursuing this.

And people are going to know I'm pursuing you. They kill the guy so fast if they don't like him. And they poison him. Though female spiders? Yeah. That's female insects in general. They always mutilate or maim or kill the male after. I mean, it's like.

We're really not taking advantage of our nature. We really aren't. That's probably the male. They're always better looking, cooler looking. They're so pretty. I know. It's so awesome. All those eyes too.

Well, speaking about genders and insects, you did gender studies, correct? Yes. Not in insects. Not in insects. No. But in humans. Yes. Yeah.

I mean, I did a Bachelor of Arts. I majored in gender studies. I did my first class honors on my thesis on female experiences in the Australian pornography industry. Right. Cool. Was this before you were in the industry? I was already in the industry. Yeah.

But before I moved here to LA. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. So, like, there's a lot of famous people in LA, right? Okay, so like there's a lot of famous people in LA, right? But you're like such a specific, intimate, and also very famous person. What is your experience like in daily life?

Like can you go places or do you get anxiety? Like do you get recognized a lot? Do people even say anything? Are they too nervous? Like what is the day-to-day? I mean, I don't think I'm that. I'm famous to a – I guess a lot of people know me. But it's a really interesting type of fame, because some people feel embarrassed to come up to me in public, or yeah, it's, I can definitely go out and do things I do. And I do get approached in public.

But a lot of the time, it's more like the kind of the knowing stare or like the double take. I'm sure there's a lot of waiters that are like spilling drinks when they come over to you. Their boners are just knocking the... But when I'm in LA, it's kind of easy because everybody knows somebody in porn. So it's kind of, it's a bit more normalized. Do you live here now? I do. Yeah. Yeah. I moved here in 2016. Awesome.

And before that you were in Melbourne? I was in Melbourne. Yes. And what's it like being famous over there? You know, my fame really rose when I moved to LA. So now when I go back, I'm more recognized than when I was actually living in Australia. And it's similar. I mean, Australian culture and American culture is not the same, but it is similar. We're heavily influenced by American culture. So it's the same kind of vibe. You know, there'll be like people that will feel maybe a little intimidated

or embarrassed to come up to me. That's why I do a lot of these conventions because some fans are actually really shy too. And so being at a place where they know I'm here specifically to meet you. So then they feel like it's an appropriate time to approach me. It's like an even exchange too. Like they like, they paid to come to see it. It's like, yeah, it's not like awkward or yeah okay i did a stand-up tour in australia years ago and i had two takeaways and i want to know

what you think okay australia had weirdly like the best coffee i've ever had and the best thai food i've ever had. So that, did you like, you know that? I know that, yes. Is there anything else that I'm missing? Or were those the headlines? Really good Szechuan, like Chinese food, because it's such a melting pot.

Like Melbourne is probably my favorite place to eat. Yeah. Because I dated a guy from there. I mean, he wants to kill me now. Oh, we were over that guy. Right, yeah. He no longer wants to kill me, but at one point he did.

Didn't you, like, call and wake him up in the middle of the night once on the show? And wasn't he like, hey, babe? Like, he was ready for it. I don't think he wants to kill you anymore. I think that was rude of me. Like, how did my ass taste? That was the question we asked him in the middle of the night.

If someone is going to Australia, would you say like, you got to do this cuisine or anything you'd advise? Thai food in Sydney. I think the Thai food in Sydney is better than Melbourne, but then Italian, Greek food in Melbourne. It's all about like the immigration patterns. There's more Asian immigration towards Sydney. And then after World War II, there was a lot of European immigration to Melbourne. So that's why the coffee in Melbourne is so good. I agree. Like food in Melbourne to me is the best, best in the world. The best Lebanese food I've ever had was in Melbourne too. Yeah. We have great Lebanese food.

Like I was even in Perth. Like who the hell's been to Perth? But the food, it's so good everywhere. So fresh. The produce is so good. That must be, yeah. I feel like for me, thai food in sydney is better than the thai food in thailand i believe that yeah i've been to thailand and i think the food is great but i feel like the produce is even fresher in sydney i don't know you guys say my headline of australia is cory the party guy do you remember him there was this kid well you google cory the party guy yes i do it was so

burned into my brain like yes he like takes precedent of all of my which is insane yeah but i just think about him like i'm always like australians party but i don't know if that's true it's just because i'm thinking of this kid he got in trouble he had through like a huge party and it got busted house party a house party he got busted and he wouldn't take his sunglasses off in the interview and i think they were like are you gonna do this party and he got busted and he wouldn't take his sunglasses off in the interview. And I think they were like, are you going to do this again? And he was like, yeah. There was a game today? I'm so sorry, but this is my entire feeling about Australia.

Wait, no, that's like, I see that and I'm like, is that your, has that been your goals this whole time? Yes. That's why you tried to make me take my sunglasses off. Because we want to see your pretty eyes. You're very predatory today. She's a groomer. She's grooming me for something. A good podcast.

This has been an ongoing debate. Yes. When you see a man first undress, what are you hoping to see? Boxers, briefs, or tighty-whities? Boxers. Oh, my God. Yes. Do you think Angela loose boxers?

Why are they loose? Okay. Boxer briefs. Like the ones that are tight? No. Yeah, they're not loose. Oh, yeah. No?

This is so much better. That does not mean what you think it means. She said loose. She was shocked. She was shocked it was even an option. No, you guys are selling

something different. Boxers are not loose. Boxers are the plaid shorts. Can we pull up some examples? And by the way. No, not the plaid ones. Watching this. Thank you, Angela.

Make sure you show her. That was a, how the mighty fall. You were so excited. It wouldn't disqualify. Show me what you think that she likes. Yeah. Okay, so these are what I like. It wouldn't disqualify. Show me what you think that she likes. Yeah.

Okay, so these are what I like. Or this is what Esther likes. Show her just regular boxers. These are boxers. So that's what Esther likes. Okay. I mean, are you my grandfather? Are you my...

Maybe you could sleep in those. Yeah, exactly. And this is what Annie and I like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do we call those? Boxer briefs. Boxer briefs. Okay, yeah. See how excited she got about boxer briefs. Yeah, exactly. And this is what Annie and I like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do we call those? Boxer briefs. Boxer briefs. Okay, yeah.

See how excited she got about boxer briefs. Yeah, boxer briefs. You guys are disgusting. Those are Skims panties to me. It's so weird. And you don't, your favorite thing, they're your favorite thing to you? Not on a guy. I wouldn't disqualify someone wearing like whatever briefs or looser boxes but i would prefer box yeah of course

yeah yeah they just as long as they're clean yeah yeah but why do you guys like that there's something i feel like with boxers there's more like sweat accumulating i don't know why it just seems i just think it feels a little like for at least, I cannot imagine wearing something loose underneath my clothing because things would bunch up. And I equate bunching up to like just discomfort and sweat and things getting shoved in the wrong places. Julian obviously put that up. Julian, did you put your own picture up there? That's what I hope to see. Angela, what do you think of tight whitey tighties?

Tighty whiteys. Tighty weighties. That's a diaper. That what you've just pulled up is not. Sure, I mean, if they're clean. But it's, yeah, I mean, I clearly like black, so. Okay. Black's going to be a preference. My hipster guy friends went through, like like a colored tighty-whitey phase where they'd have like blue on.

It was cute. I didn't fuck them, but it was cute to see. Okay. So let's see what the Instagram poll showed. Okay. Okay. What? So the Instagram poll revealed that 72% of our listeners prefer boxer briefs.

24%, which is much higher than they thought, agree with you, Esther, boxers, and 4% tighty-whities. Wait, I have a question for you. Those are gay slugs. Okay, wait, Esther, you used to have a podcast called Weird Adults. Like, you identify as being a little weird, right? Yeah, but I didn't think this was weird. Do you feel 24% weird or 4% weird or 72% weird? Or I guess it would be the opposite.

Do you feel 20% normal? This felt, I just, this felt so. You're blindsided. Yeah. Yeah, as we are when a guy is wearing regular glasses. Why do you like them? To me, that's like masculine and like manly to me. I don't know.

The other one is feminine to me. Wow. Yeah, I know that that's like, you can't make those judgments. They're kind of 90s. I can for my own taste. Yeah, I think so. They're kind of 90s.

I think for me, I equate it to either being childlike or fatherly boxers. Childlike. Because I only see like really young boys or like my stepdad. Like Roger wears like… My dad wears tighty blackies. He said he stopped wearing tighty whiteys years ago.

Well, that's what Angela likes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my dad. So hot. Cute. 82. 82.

I just feel like we're on… We've been doing this show for several years now like Kalilah obviously has way worse and weirder takes than me so I feel like how is this the weirdest I mean it was also the confidence in which you I think that is a lot of it it's the fact that you're so you're almost like cocky about it you're like obviously everyone agrees with this. Yes. What are some major turnoffs that you have in men and women? Yeah. Bad hygiene. Oh, hygiene, yes.

Arrogance. Like the standard, like the bar is very low. When they go together too, isn't that really bad? Yeah. They're like, your breath stinks. Why are you being rude to me? Pretty cocky for someone who hasn't flossed in three years. That is such a horrific combo. when someone is rude and they stink it's a little spectrum where you're like

are you on the fucking spectrum name dropping too oh i'm into like tell me everything tell me everyone you know now i hate it i don't like that it's so it just screams insecurity and it's such a turn off Annie your take on name dropping I love it give me all of them tell me everything

I will name drop other people's name drops like if someone name drops I go oh my god yay I have a new you know it's bad when she's name dropping me at an Asian restaurant

oh my god it was awesome I was waiting too I was like we all do that did it work it worked so hard I knew it was gonna work

I knew it was gonna work I was like he's gonna know who I am in like 10, 9, 8, 7. And he got it. We need to do a poll that is, I lost my train of thought. What were we just talking about? Name dropping? Do you poll if people like name dropping or not like name dropping?

And let's let Annie have a little taste of being wrong I don't like being wrong I surrender to that to be honest Esther you're very unique I don't know yeah unique is good my mom is a good thing oh thank you

I like the uniqueness I don't like the boxers this reminds me of a song from the musical chorus line where the girl says, different is nice, but it sure isn't pretty. That's sad. What if you just broke out in a song and started dancing? I may. Second, so arrogance, name dropping, bad hygiene.

God, those are great ones yeah it's kind of standard yeah yeah what other ones what are your major turn offs Esther

outside of boxer briefs I mean everything Angela said is a turn off you've dated people that are very much besides the hygiene which thing

arrogant and name droppy you've dated people that are very much that besides the hygiene. Which thing? Arrogant and name-droppy. You've met people that are the top of those in the world. Yeah, when they were Starbucks employees, like how much

did they name-drop? They just name-dropped the people's names. That's like pretty much a Starbucks job. I don't, what are your guys' turn offs? You. Thank you. I mean, under the umbrella of hygiene, like breath is like my number one, number one. I think rudeness. You see that in guys because they think that that's going to make them like, it's like the arrogant thing where they're, if they're a little rude to you, then they think that you'll think they're better than you. But it's like, no, I need ultimate 100% kindness and generosity coming at me or get away.

Yes and no. Bad tippers. People that are rude to like waiters. I mean that drives me crazy. That's sort of like the type of people that wake up. Like I dated a guy who was like one of those like woke up in the morning and it was like his day and he would just shit on – it was like no acknowledgement that other people are just like working and going about their day.

Yeah. He was mean to my mom. What is like a turn on like if you were meeting a guy or on a date or something and like some like what are qualities that would get you like excited? Yeah, some green flags.

Green flags. Kind of all the opposite of those. Like being hygienic, being kind. I love funny guys. I don't know if that's a green flag.

It is. It could be a red flag. I believe it is a green flag. It is. It could be a red flag. I believe it is a red flag. It is. Someone really funny. What if they're not comics, though? They're just like, you know. No, that's true.

You're right. Yeah, funny is good. You just don't want guys that have developed humor because they didn't get laid in high school and are now using humor as a way to have power over a large group of women. In cell vibes. Well said. Yeah Well, well said. Yeah. Very well said.

But there's some people that just are funny because it's just like in their genetics and how their family was. Yeah. I mean, we've asked this question on the show before, like how big of a value is someone like how important is it that your partner is funny? And for the longest time, I know you said it was important. You said it was important. I think for me, we just have to be able to laugh at the same thing. Yeah. Like,

I don't necessarily need him to be funny, but he needs to understand what makes me laugh. Yeah. You want the literal senses of humor to line up. To match. Yeah. Because I remember dating a boy and he was a lovely man. I could have stayed with him forever, but he was like cry laughing on the couch watching this video. And I was like, oh my God, please show me. It's got to be the funniest thing on earth. And it was just a bus full of baseball players singing Carly Rae Jepsen song. And there was nothing funny about it. And it was just super cringe. And I was just like, and I was like, why are you crying laughing on the couch? Can I think of why it might be that you hate that so much? It's because now you're in an

awkward position where you want to like, you want to validate that he's laughing but it's not funny to you so then you're like i'm either going to be sitting here like shitting on his parade or i have to like fake laugh well no i went immediately to the other to my friend and i was like can you tell me if this is funny to you because i need i wasn't sure why i wasn't laughing i hate when someone brings up and video you don't realize how long, like, funny videos are until someone doesn't think they're funny next to you and you're just holding

and you're like, or someone does it to you and you're like, okay, we got it. Because I feel like I'm, like, insulting their taste,

you know, I'm like, oh my God, now I'm, like, rejecting who they are as a person. I always say,

like, I have a, I'm like, no, I say no, just say no. You are good, you are good at this.

Because, you know what, I can be on my phone You are good. You are good at this. Because you know what? I can be on my phone looking at a screen all day long at home. When I'm out in public with people, I want to fucking talk. I want to look at you. Like I don't want to look at your fucking phone screen. I don't care who you are. Yeah.

I hate that. You fucking assholes. Anyways. anyways Angela you're somebody that performs and you know with your whole body with your whole body yes and um like how do you get to that point like are there things that you're ever like insecure about are there ever things where you're like you know what like I actually don't want to show that part today or like are you just full blast confidence to be able to perform like that on screen um you have to just be able to compartmentalize like if there's ever anything that i'm like not feeling good about like there's definitely been days on set where i've hated the makeup

and it doesn't matter you just have to like you just have to be like you know what i'm hot the makeup's gonna be off in around two minutes anyway, just get out there and suck that dick. And is the makeup everywhere? Do they do your whole body? Oh, no. It's just her face? Yeah, just face. Tell me about body makeup.

Look, I don't recommend body makeup, especially when you're doing porn because you end up sweating it off. And then if you don't, like, I used to, if I'd have a bruise because I bruise easily, I'd try and like cover it with makeup. But then it actually draws more attention to it because you could never fully cover it. And then, yeah. It's like what I did to, if I'd have a bruise because I bruise easily, I'd try and like cover it with makeup. But then it actually draws more attention to it because you could never fully cover it. And then, yeah.

It's like what I did to her. Yeah, I just embrace it. I'm just like, yep. And I bet you everyone's like, ooh, a bruise. Yeah, she got nasty. My mom always played racquetball when I was a kid. So I always think thighs are supposed to have bruises all over them, just welts all over them. Bruises are hot.

Whenever I have a bruise on my leg, I'm like, I'm hot. It's like so Courtney love of you. I don't find them hot on me. No? I don't care about it on anyone else. When I have a bruise on me, I hate it. I hate being bruised. That's because you bruise really easier.

Yeah, because it's been a nuisance to you. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like it at all. If someone does something really light to you and you're like, there goes my week. Thanks. I feel like after being in porn so long, my body has adjusted. Like I don't bruise as easily as I did when I first entered. So I think I'm all right.

But yeah, I do like if a guy spanks me, I'm going to end up having like a wealth and potentially a bruise in the shape of his hand. That is so hot. But now that you're the Angela White, like I'm sure you could be like, I don't like this makeup. I don't like the way the light hits this. Are you able now to kind of? I mean, now I request certain makeup artists. And I do like, even if I was working with a makeup artist,

I didn't like certain things. I'd give constructive criticism and say, hey, can we, you know, bring the lashes up or whatever it is that I don't like. So I do make adjustments. But some days you just, whatever, you're just not feeling as sexy as you would on a normal day. And you just have to get out of your head and not think about that. Because my fans have seen me in the worst makeup and they still love those scenes. So I'm like, okay, they don't care. I relate to that. More runny probably. I relate to that so much because it's so true.'m like okay they don't care I relate to that more runny probably I relate to

that so much because it's so true like some days you don't feel sexy and for that to be your job you have to like you do have to like work that muscle of figuring out how to like conjure it up because even in comedy it's like you sometimes you're not in a good mood but you literally have to go out on stage and be fun and that's not that is like a whole different skill set of doing it when you're not feeling it and how do you go through like for me you know if i'm different weeks of the month i like when i'm ovulating i feel insanely beautiful i love myself and then a week after i'm like i'm an ogre i can't even stand the way i look you just, do you have those days or you just power through and you're like, I'm a fucking goddess? Well, I will say that it's the fact that I haven't built my career on being the hot girl is actually helpful.

Because the reason fans like my scenes, I mean, some are here just for the tits. But they come for the tits, but they stay for the emotion. So the thing that I'm known for is being really connected with my onscreen partner. So hot. So it doesn't matter. Check your panties. Hot. That is so hot.

Is that your thing? I should have worn black. I just think that's like everyone's thing. That is my thing too. It's like that is so powerful. And the fact that you have the awareness to know that that's your thing like that's really cool well i'm not like um i'm not the prettiest girl in porn it's like i'm there are girls that are way hotter than me way way better like you know i mean i know it's all subjective, but I can look and go, oh, wow, they have like better bodies or they're cuter or whatever it might be. Like I'm my fans love me because of the way I connect with the person on screen.

So even if I don't think I look that great, I'm like, well, as long as I'm giving my all. You're being authentic. Yeah. Then they're going to love it. Would you say like, like, cause what is your advice for people like lowly people like us? Like if we did want to try to feel sexy or fun or good on those days where we're not feeling it, like what would you say to do? Like how, how do you do it? I try and get out of my head and into my body. And by that, I mean, like, I'm not focused on like what my body looks like, but I'm focused on what my body's feeling. So get out of my head and into my body. And by that I mean like I'm not focused on like what my body looks like

but I'm focused on what my body is feeling. So get out of your head and into your body. So I'm focusing on what his or her fingertips feel like as they run up my thighs. I'm focused on – You're present. Yeah, I'm present in the moment. That's where I go to.

And I mean that's where even if I'm feeling like I look super hot in the end, that's where I'm going to'm feeling like I look super hot in the end, that's where I'm going to. Because if you're focused on bringing your onscreen partner pleasure or focused on, you know, your own pleasure, then you're not thinking about how I don't like the color eyeshadow that they used or I'm feeling bloated or. You're in the moment. Yeah, I feel like that's generally applies to having sex and like with anyone like on and off screen right for me I know that when I start thinking about anything outside of just the pleasure itself like I check out my pussy dry stuff you know what I mean yeah it's also worrying about things I'm like call my dad I'm always like oh I hate that when I do to-do list sex. Oh, my God. Like, fucking, and then it's hard to get back in. It really applies to acting, too, because it's like, if you're doing a scene and I'm like, I have no idea what I'm doing here.

The ultimate fix is like, okay, just literally be in the moment and react to what this person is doing. And, like, that's the trick of it. Yeah. That's so impressive. Now, what if you're like, let's say you have a date or a scene and physically it's like, what are you doing to prepare? Like, do you take like special showers or like eat a certain way? Like, how are you going to optimize like your physical performance? Depends on the type of scene. If it's just a regular girl,

girl scene or boy, girl scene, then I'm waking up, I'm showering in the morning, I'm making sure like everything's clean. I mean, you kind of prepare for a regular scene as if you're going on a date. So you shower, you wash your hair, you wash your face, you moisturize your whole body. So you shower, you wash your hair, you wash your face, you moisturize your whole body. Yeah, you just kind of think about like how you would want to present to someone if you're going to potentially be having sex with them later. Then for the regular scenes, we douche. So we don't use the like the solution in the douche because that's really bad for your vaginal health.

So we pour out the liquid and then replace it with just warm water so we just clear out anything i mean i don't recommend that in your butt yeah i know we're like we're listening yeah yeah yeah fix your legs yes she's like diane walter or uh what's her barbara walter so you douche how douche for pussy, enema for the butt. Enema always. What kind of enema? Just the enema always?

Douchey shirts? I don't enema always. Like only if it's an anal scene. Oh, so only for? Only for an anal scene. And I know you have a very specific diet like the night before. Yeah. Before anal scenes, right?

Yeah. What is it? Well, it depends. So basically you don't, I know my transit time, so I know how long it's going to take for food to go in and then come out. So I, I time it the night before I don't eat any salads because it doesn't really digest properly. And when you're cleaning out, it's like, it's just, you want to, I mean, I usually either don't eat anything or I'll have like a bone broth or something, just something very light. And I time it right. So I know that by the time I'm cleaning out, I've had the correct number of hours. So everything, everything. That's actually why they call it bone broth. Um, Julian, can you relate to this? Oh,

yeah. Wait, really? What's your prep? I mean, usually like a high fiber the day before so that it, you know, pushes everything through. And then you want to douche your enema before. Yeah. Now, are we ever canceling dates because things have not moved as fast as we want them to? No, you just do different things. Yeah. You know? I mean, the gay man's plight is very different sexually because there's different things you can do and you don't need to do penetration and focus on oral and, you know, just kind of work around it.

But is there a lot of grace you offer somebody if it's a more spontaneous meeting? Yeah. And if it does get a little bit messy, you're like, yeah, we're just. Yeah. I mean, like in everyday situations, like if if it gets messy, it gets messy. Like we're we're just yeah I mean like in everyday situations like if if it gets messy it gets messy like we're we're all gay men and like yeah like my hey mom my first time I farted and really yeah and it was fine like it was like that's just kind of normal sometimes you know it's a butt queef yeah it's just a queef yeah yeah um and then have you ever had to like

cancel like get your period randomly and then you have to cancel uh no people just work with a sponge in oh yeah you don't cancel yeah you don't cancel for okay menstruation how does a sponge work it's like every other job we can't get one day off i know i'm like if even they don't cancel a sponge so you douche a lot so that you're like clearing out all the blood and then you use a makeup sponge you wet it first i like to put a little bit of silicone lube on it because obviously you don't want to stick it in dry because that's painful and then you just stick it up as far as you can and yeah the guys don't really feel it. This is literally the greatest advice I've ever heard. How do you get it out?

Is it hard to get out? Oh, I would love to tell you how to get it out because I still hear so many horror stories on set where girls can't get it out and they're always getting the guys to try and like pull it out with their long fingers. But the easiest way to get it out is to douche again because what happens is you keep douching

and it fills up with the water so it gets heavier. So you douche, douche douche douche bear down and it should just come out with the water and if not like you just keep douching keep filling it with water bear down and it should come straight out i thank you you're like a scientist you've just done such an important this is like the most important thing i've ever heard in my life. Well, thank you. The, when you were on tiger belly, we started talking after off camera, um, about how to prep even for anal in general. And for someone like me, where it's always just been a very negative experience where like, I think the last guy rated me like a six out of 10 on from the anal experience. And I was like, what happened? He was like, you just look terrified. And you were like face down and stiff. And I was like, what happened? He was like, you just look terrified. And you were like, face down and stiff. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Six is actually a very- Well, I knew you were going to rate me. I guess I was a little- You know, one man's six is another man's 10. Thank you, Esther. Maybe some guy likes the stiff fear. Unfortunately, I think a lot of anal guys like that. I think that's one of the terrified look. No, but you were explaining to me how to do how to massage the area first and how you can eventually get to the point of experiencing like real pleasure anally. Cause I know for men, I mean, your prostate's there, so it's much easier, but like, I don't really have necessarily anything in there that's going to make it like, this is worth it. Yeah. But if you stiffen up, you're going to like, I was telling you,

your asshole and your jaw are connected. So if you're clenching your jaw, you're clenching your asshole. We all have TMJ. Yeah. You need to. I want to like fire every doctor I've ever had because you've just done more work than they've ever done for me. Just come to me. I've played a doctor. Oh, perfect. Okay, so if I'm tightening my jaw. Or anything really, but your jaw especially. Like don't clench your jaw when you're trying to get penetrated because you're going to clench your asshole. Relax your jaw.

Deep breaths in and out. Think like meditative breaths. Relax your whole body. And to be in that state, you really have to trust your partner and you're going to have to trust that they're going to go slow. So I don't recommend anal necessarily on a one night stand. I mean, unless you're already like pro and you've already practiced at home, fingering yourself, using toys because you get... That's what you told me yeah to finger yourself

so I've been trying to use the anal plug instead and working my way up the different sizes perfect yeah yeah

you get a game man class for that there's a thing I heard about called spiritual disarmoring can you look that up please what is that

it's what is going on? I'm so glad this is coming up. Okay. Spiritual disarmament. Disarmoring. Nope. And if there aren't butt plugs involved, it's not the one I'm looking for.

Okay. Aren't you glad your mom's here for this episode, Stella? I mean, honestly, she loves it. You're learning a lot, right, Mom? I'm learning a lot. I just heard about it. It's like you put vibrating dildos and plugs in every orifice for hours. For hours. They do the jade ones.

You know how people are using the different crystals? Yes. Yeah. But they have to be vibrating ones or just any type of? No, I think, well, I think my friend already sent it. And what are the benefits? How I cured my existential crisis with my butt plug I mean maybe it's like that hold on let me find this is that what you're Angela are you familiar

with this no I'm not um hold on I'm gonna find it but I I think I like where this is going like if you relax your butthole everything falls into place I think it's like you just it's like you just come for so long that you know oh it's sexual you're in I don't I think it's like you just come for so long that you no longer all of your... Oh, it's sexual. I think it's supposed to be not on purpose sexual, but obviously it's sexual. Just as a person who's presently constipated in the present

moment that we're in, talk about being in the moment, I would love a relaxed butthole. Shamanic de-armoring. You're like... I don't think constipation has anything to do with how relaxed or tight your asshole is. I had so much diarrhea as a kid. I think I learned to just be in a full clench. I'm always keegling my asshole.

You know, same, Annie. I was like, I don't want to. You're either a diarrhea girl or a constipation girl. I'm a diarrhea girl. I had both, but I got kicked out of nursery school. Okay. I diarrhea'd so hard because I had constipation. So then they were giving me all these laxatives. I was just lact intolerant but when I was a kid they didn't like really it wasn't

like popular so nobody really lactose intolerant kid that's so weird because usually you become that I am a quarter Jewish um it is a and there's some things but um it uh so then they gave me this laxative and I shit I guess two days in a row, I diarrhea on the carpet and they were like, if she comes in one more time, like I got like on academic probation. How do you put a kid on probation? How old were you? Well, I was, I mean, I made up that it was that I was four. I was a baby.

St. Paul's nursery school coming for you. Do you happen to also have constipation advice? You know, porn, porn fixed all of my stomach issues because you have to get so in touch with your body to be able to because it's not like a random hookup where you can I mean obviously when you're on a porn set things happen maybe you have to cancel but for me like my professionalism has been such a big part of my brand that it's like if I'm booked for an anal scene then you know you're going to get an anal scene and I'm going to be clean. How cool is that?

But to get to that level, like I've had to learn my body. Like I've had to learn everything. Like what any piece of food does to my body, how long it takes for me to like, for it to transit, like how it makes me feel, like the reactions that my body are going to have. Like I've had to learn everything so that I can know that yes, at 8 a.m. I'm going to be clean and we can fuck all day and there's going to be no issues.

That's so amazing. I'm so inspired. Like you are such a level of professionalism that is so impressive. Like I think in any industry, people who are at the top, sometimes it's like it could go one of two ways, right? It's like they're either like slobs and like late and like hard to count on and you know or like it's like I'm right here they're not slobs or it's like what you're saying where you are just your reputation is everything and you

are on it like that is so inspiring to me and also like there I would I feel like you're the ultimate human if you're so in touch with your body, your every little movement. Like I don't know. I want that. And also this is a guess, but is your desire for professionalism less about your reputation with everyone else but more your reputation with yourself? Yeah, it's me.

It comes from – To keep yourself. Yeah. I just – I love what I do and I love being professional I'm also like there's so many stigmas and myths and like assumptions about people that work in my industry like assumptions about us being unprofessional or not having any other options all that yeah yeah yeah so for me to like be an exemplar of professionalism is really important just to, I mean, that's who I am at my core anyway, but it's just an added bonus to be like, okay, well. That's very rare.

She was here before all of you. So that's professional. She was. She was the earliest to get on set today. I am turned on. All right. So I think we're going to get into Truth or Dare, y'all. Okay.

A classic sleepover game. Are we excited for that? Can you read this at some point, too? Oh, that's right. It's called Shamanic Dearmoring. And it's not big enough for me to read, but Julian, you can do it. That was so cute, like, because you can't read it. I can't.

I know. Can someone read this? Someone sent me an article, and I need to bring it here, so you guys will read it. This is really interesting. Do they tell, do they specify what body parts need to be vibrated?

I think it's all of them. I think it's everything, yeah. Oh, it's not your butthole? It's all, yeah, it's your butthole, it's like all of the holes. How is that different from a Theragun?

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thanks, Michael. Thank you. I have this reaction to dairy that I am in denial of because I've been so proud of the fact that I've never been lactose intolerant. But when I eat dairy, I get these cystic pimples almost like overnight. That's why you had to cover the chest one, Annie, my third nipple.

Not cystic. That's tiny. Thank you. Thank you. That's so good. Is it? Good. She knows her body enough.

Yeah, I can't eat that. You're good. It's a work. I had a bite. I can't eat it. Oh. Don't I had a bite. I can't eat it. Oh. Don't make that up. Do not do any shit.

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That's livingproof.com slash trash Tuesday. Code trash Tuesday 25. Well, thank you for the anal tips. I've been really taking heed. Have you been doing more alone stuff? I know you said you've been graduating through the anal tips. I've been really taking heed. Have you been doing more alone stuff? I know you said you've been graduating through the anal care. Yeah. And the guy that I'm dating is very understanding of the fact that I'm like, look, if we're going to do this, we're going to do this right.

And you just have to be patient. And Angela says this is a process. So. Did he bring it up that he wanted to do it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I've always like jokingly said like once a year is like the quota, right?

But now I'm like, wait a second. Now I'm convinced it can be pleasurable. And so I want to try it. Did you try putting the toy in and then putting a vibrator or Hitachi on it? Yeah. That was really good advice. That worked really well. I feel like that opens you up more as well. You put the Hitachi on the end of the. Yeah. I mean, you could put it

on your clit as well. But like if I ever have a butt plug in, I like to put the Hitachi on the handle. Yeah. So it's vibrating inside or you could kind of, you know, go from down there. You're basically a shaman. You're basically, what I'm getting at is you're a shaman. Only 13 sessions. I know. Okay, let's wait. So are my truth or daring myself?

Whoever wants to start, yeah, just truth or dare. Okay. You can start. I pick truth. Yep. Esther, what is your best move in the bedroom? First of all, everyone should have to answer this. Okay.

Okay. Great. I think my best, maybe it's not a specific move, and it's advice I got in high school when I pulled the popular girl aside and was like, hey, can you teach me how to have sex? And she was like, sure. And she was like, just do what feels good for you. And ever since then, like that's been my approach. And I think that's a strong asset that I have. Yeah. Your pleasure first, Esther. Great answer.

Annie, what's your finishing move? I don't know. What's your mortal combat finishing move? I mean, I think I agree with that. Like the best sex I have is when I'm like using the guy's body as, as a toy, basically. Thank you for being here. Could have done it without you, but thank you for being here. Um, I mean, I don't know. I like, you know, I have my little remote control. I, I zip zap. I have a hospital bed. So I bring myself up to the height to the height of my fiance's penis. I don't know. I don't know my moves. I'll find out. I'll tell you next week. I think my strength in the bedroom is similar to yours. And it's really like being able to like connect. Yeah. Because I think that in my real life i sometimes have problems with eye contact i'm a

little bit like like i have some stimulus like aversions i'm not very good uh i get nervous i get a sweat mustache i mean you know that but during sex i'm really locked in it's the only time where i full abandon my inhibitions are gone and I'm locked in. So like my ability to like connect and really kind of be sensual and present, but I'm really great on top. Yeah. That's, I think I've gotten the most praise because I'm an athlete. I'm a, I cycle and I swim and my cardio is on point and I will never stop. Core strength. You got the core strength. Yeah. It's whatever way you like me on top, I will go on forever. What's your best move? I mean, it's definitely the connection.

But if not the connection, then, I mean, titty fucking is definitely. So jealous. I need a flashlight to do titty fucking. Yeah, I can completely make a cock disappear between my tits. Oh, that's great. Yeah. That's incredible. Do you use like lube for that?

Lube will spit. It usually spits easier because I've just been sucking the dick. What is the proper way to get titty fucked? And is there a size? I mean, is there hope for annie enough is there a position that's best um i think the best position is i mean i do this in porn all the time because it's really good for pov when you think about it like most of the time if a guy is lying down and you're going over the top of him with your tits that's actually really uncomfortable

because all of your weight is like you're trying to hold your tits, but then you can't hold yourself up with your arms. Like, it just doesn't work. It doesn't look good. It doesn't feel good. So what I like to do is I like to have the guy put his legs over my legs, right? So then his butt is here. So he's propped up and his dick is automatically in my tits and I can sit up instead of leaning over like that, which hurts your back. His dick is right there, and I'm just bouncing like this. And for POV and porn, it's much better because the camera is there, right? I can look directly into the camera lens like this.

I'm just bouncing my tits. Whereas if I came over like kind of doggy style, which is what you do, then my hair is doing this. I can't look directly down the lens. You're not getting the light in there. So whether it's on camera or off camera, it feels more comfortable for me. The guy can then thrust up.

The only thing is some guys don't like the idea of like their butt being cradled by your thighs. It's like, come on. It's more comfortable for everyone. And you get a better view of the tip fucking. And surrender to your mommy issues, okay? You all have them. Just surrender.

Gets easier. Annie, truth or dare? Oh, I just realized you had lion feet. Yeah, my nieces gave me these. That's so cute. It's right under your left foot. Those are only truths. You think I know my left and right.

Oh, they're still learning me. Those are only truths, so truth or dare? Oh, this is my left and right. Oh, they're still learning me. Those are only truths. So this is my truth. OK. If your current partner told you he was transitioning, how would you act? I would be like, oh, I'm so surprised. Oh, didn't see that coming. You don't wake me up with a mangina every morning.

He is such a tucker. He also showed me the Ken doll where you just put it behind your balls. So it's just your balls out. I think all boys are trans. I like these truth questions. I'm going to keep it coming. Kalilah, truth or dare? I'm going to do truth.

They know how to pander to me. This was not a fun one, but I'll answer it. Kalilah, what was the hardest part of going through such a public breakup? Everything. Yeah. Yeah, it's humiliating. I think the hardest part, though, is people running with their own narratives about you. And, yeah, I mean, that can't feel good for anybody.

Like, you know how it feels when even when you were younger and someone spreads a rumor about you and it's just like this and you can't fight it because now 50 people believe it and you're just one person saying, but that's not who I am. Like tenfold. That's how it feels like going through something that public and like especially when you break up with someone who's so beloved and so charismatic and so funny and you're sort of this like straighter person then it's like I don't know it it it fucking sucks everything about it sucks I do not recommend and keep your breakups private gals that's awesome love you Kalilah thank you thank you do you feel like stronger though now being on the other side of such a traumatic event I don't I wouldn't necessarily say stronger because I'm still sensitive to everything. I will say that I am probably just able to hold the pain a little bit better. Like the pain is still there.

I just know how to hold it and cope with it because that stuff doesn't go away. You deal with it on a regular basis. Like you guys do. Like we're girls in front of a camera. I mean, that's an inevitable part of the sport, right? It's like you're going to get a certain level of like amount of vitriol, even though you get the good stuff too. So just learning how to kind of make friends with how painful it is, I think, is the way to move forward. Like letting go of like you're not, you just can't ever.

Change people's minds. You can't have, and it's just you can't, there's no way to control the narrative. There's just no way. People are just going to say what they want. But that's like a good lesson too. And just self-love and being like. Yeah. I know the truth.

And there's just no way to, yeah, you can't. Once a rumor's out, like you can't get it back. Like there's no. You cannot. I have some real nasty ones about me that are so infuriating. And they hurt. Are there rumors out there about you, Angela, where you're like, fuck, it just isn't true about me?

I can't actually think of any right now. I mean, there's not so much rumors. There's certainly misconceptions about who I am as a person because of what I do. There's a lot of hate for adult performers in general. There's also a lot of love. So I focus on the love. Totally. I focus on the love. Do you feel like it's getting better? Are you feeling like a shift or is it still that same

kind of like crop of maybe certain types of people that just really are just anti what you do? I just feel like everyone's so loud on the internet right now. Yeah. Like I, but I, I feel, I feel, um, I don't feel so bad about it knowing that there's also so many people that are so loud in their support. So, yeah, I mean people are going to have their assumptions. I've kind of tried to talk about those myths and destigmatize the industry. And you did a really good job. You ran for office for that specific reason, right? Yeah, I did.

What? Do you not know that Angela reason, right? Yeah, I did. What? Did you not know that Angela ran for office? Yeah, in Australia. In Australia. Yeah. To take away votes from a woman who was basically anti-sex work, was it? Yeah. Was she super religious?

No, she was actually running for the Greens party, which is usually a very progressive party. Usually they have like sex worker positive policies. And for whatever reason, she was kind of on this anti-sex work feminist platform wanting to shut down the brothels in Melbourne, which were legal and are still currently legal, but she wanted to shut them down, claiming that she really cared about the women involved and was trying to save them. When we all know when you shut down legal businesses, it sends it underground. And so it makes it more dangerous for the women involved and was trying to save them when we all know when you shut down legal businesses, it sends it underground and so it makes it more dangerous for the women involved. So, yeah, my whole platform was just not to win. It was just to draw attention to that fact

and to draw votes away from her. So in the end, she didn't win, so I feel like it was a success. That's awesome. Good for you. Yeah. A lot of claps. Yeah, a lot of claps. Angela, truth or dare?

Okay. I'm nervous. Let's see. Angela, what gives you the biggest ick in a co-star? I will say, like, I'm always looking for something that I like about a co-star. I'm very picky with who I shoot with. So right now I have like a roster of girls and guys that I just really like. So it's a pleasure to be on set. But every now and again, I'll work with a new performer. And when they get on set, I'm always looking for like,

what do I like about them? I'm always trying to focus on that. Because even if I, you know, whatever, I find their personality grating or something, I'll find something physically about them or I'll just focus on the positives. But I guess the thing, I really like intelligence. So if they're not captivating in that way, then I have to, it's not an ick, but it's then I have to try and be like, okay, like less talking, more like focusing on you physically or trying to connect in a physical way, if that makes sense. That's super relatable. Yeah. I think that you can give me a 10 out of 10 specimen and I will not find him or her attractive if they are just feeling like dumb shit. Yeah.

And I cannot get there no matter what yeah no intelligence is everything a less attractive person can talk them into being attractive and an attractive person can definitely talk themselves out of being attractive yeah you know I was on um fun with dumb dumbfounded and um he was saying it's actually a lot of pressure to be very good looking because like think about if you're a very good looking guy you start at the very top like you can only go down from there like there has to be some kind of I don't know like if I was a super if I was like Chris Hemsworth say for instance I'd be really afraid to talk and sound like a dum-dum because you you're already

like this level of hot now it's only downward for you. I also think it's interesting. Like I have friends who are like, I guess, society would say pretty unattractive. And they seem to be very jealous of like good looking men. And I'm like, good looking men still have to like upkeep really well too. It's like a good looking guy can't just like, scum between his teeth and, like, scum. I don't think so. But, I mean, I guess it's like, so when I look at my friend that I'm thinking of, it's like, I think he's like, it's kind of this, he's jealous of a laziness that maybe can go into being really attractive. Do you know what I mean?

A lot of the uglier guys in porn are better lovers too. So a lot of like the guys on my yes list are not necessarily like objective. Like they're not like the most attractive guys, but they're really attractive to me because they're so good in the bedroom. Yeah. They're making up for, they're so good in the bedroom yeah they're making up for they're like yeah i wish more men believed us when we say this yeah like they always say oh she's just trying to be like a pick-me-girl by saying she's an uggo chaser but it's like no it's not that i chase uggos it's just that usually men who have not been viewed as like standardly attractive usually have they've had to build a personality they've had to be have, they've had to build a personality. They've had

to be funny or they've had to do this. So I'm not necessarily. Hone your gifts, baby. That's like, it's like a hot fat guy. You're like, hone your gifts. Exactly. Hone your gifts. Go to the gym. Hone your gifts. Do you think it's true? This thing I've heard where they say like, a woman can grow attracted to a man, but a man cannot grow attracted to a woman. Does that feel true? Somehow that makes some sense to me. I think a man can start to feel like, oh, fuck, I'm well taken care of and I should stay in this, but never like, oh, I wake up one morning like she's so hot to me now because they have more of a spontaneous arousal versus we have more of a reactive arousal right julian i think that's why game sorry i'm not generalizing gay men

you're not but i think that's why a lot of gay men are very shallow because i think that it's always about looks really tell us more i just think it's always about attraction. I think it's a lot harder for a man to like grow that attraction towards like that, just that sexual attraction. Like I found myself in situations where I've lost attraction, but I've really let like that person I've like connected with so much, but the sexual attraction just like was lost somewhere along the way. And I couldn't find it again. Oh, this is extremely disappointing. I'm sorry. Because like men get gradually hotter and hotter to me.

The more I get to know them. Yeah. It's, I think personally, and maybe I'm a dick, but it's hard. It's tough. And that's why a lot of gay men open up their relationships and try to seek it elsewhere sometimes. I hope that's not the case. I mean, I definitely grow more attracted to a guy or a girl,

like whatever, once I get to know them and I see how good of a person they are. So I hope, I'm holding out hope that that happens for guys too. Do you date women? Yes, both. Yeah. What is dating? Oh my God, I'm so sorry.

Oh, so you date women. Oh wow, it was like a... I believe that we're all going to be dating women at some point. I think once Todd transitions. Seriously though, if my partner was like I'm transitioning I would be I don't know what I would do oh my god you guys so um I've always been the girl on the show that like loves the half gay boys I call them the half gay boys because like if they're a little bit femme or they have like some type of like inclination towards I don't

know if they're a little bit you know the softer sashaying in front of me. Like I'm okay with all of that. It's very Gen Z of you. This is what the Gen Z is like. But I'm telling you, the guy I'm dating now could not be any more manly. Like he is the epitome of just like manliness. And I love it, but I'm'm also like what's wrong with me like what happened to my love for sashaying boys maybe I'll start sashaying later on I think we get everything we want you're right so if you want it it will come I feel so old and stuck in my ways because at my shows I always ask like what are the types of guys that the women are into and the Gen Z's always say like guys who look like lesbians yes or like it's something like that and I I'm like oh I'm old like I'm not with it they all look like lesbians now though

they dress they like have nail polish and stuff so it's not like I do like nail polish for some reason I think it's I don't know why either. I'm like, okay, boys, let's go. It's hot. Paint them up. Paint them up. And like when they wear the pearls, I'm like, okay. Okay, so that's what I did to the manly boy.

The manly man. No, for Halloween, I made him – I don't have a costume. I was like, I'll get you one at Party City. So I got him like this disco outfit, and I was like, well, you have to paint your nails. So he was like, I'm not going to do that. I was like, please, God, it's just, it's not going to be right unless you paint your nails. So he painted his nails and I took maybe 80 pictures of just his hands along with it. Cause I'm like, I gotta like, I always tell Todd, I'm like, you could paint, I was like, you can paint your nails. It's so cute. I think, cause I think my kind of, and

on my ayahuasca weekend, I was thinking this too. Like I think masculinity for me is more about like men who are being like are in service to the divine, like who are like protective, but are also like very like attuned to what women need and are there to kind of like facilitate and just get shit done because women have to bear such a load for society and the family and i like that so those yeah that's great know what i mean um those who are attracted to the what did you call them half gay boys i've it's probably so wrong to say that but yes yeah i love it i'm presenting maybe would you ever be interested in um pegging like reversing the role the penetrating role um i think i've only been interested in pegging when they like absolutely are so opposed to it opposed yeah like when they're it's the same way that guys

like want that's the reason why they want to fuck me in the butt because i'm just like no thank you no thank you so it's so it's exactly the same you want to fuck them in the butt yeah like i don't think i'd be into like a guy who was like please peg me please peg me it's all i wanted like swapsies i'll do you you can do me we both say no yeah i don't know but we both don't get what we want and also get what we want i do have a girlfriend who really enjoys thrusting and it really turns her on to have so yeah i mean i would if todd was down i would i would peg him but he would i would want him to like want it but he would yeah you would want him to want it i guess well i wouldn't want him to be like this is my thing that i've been doing secretly before i was with you and didn't tell you yet have you done any uh pegging scenes yeah i've done a lot i lot. I would love to. Do you like it? I like it. It's a lot of

work. Yeah. Like I feel for the guys. Yeah. It's a lot of work. It really is. Have you, what are your tips on making men come via the prostate? It's pretty easy.'s so right the prostate makes it so easy have you i've been unsuccessful a lot of like salad tossing like even just fingers like you don't even need to but is it fingers in and up well i usually put them in doggy okay so it's like good tip yeah because then it's easier like i can wet it with my tongue and then I can like yeah like doggies yeah from behind I find that really easy and then and I feel like it can be really intimate too because once I get like once I get in there and I find my spot I can kind of like if I'm not like stroking the dick I can come like over the top of them and like whisper in their ear and that kind of thing

you know I I feel like it's intimate I'm like sexually 14 I'm like I always want to laugh when you guys I'm like I need to that's what I was saying on my weekend too I was thinking I was like I need to like get into my shit more because I am like we had a guy had a foot fetish on like two weeks ago I was crying laughing like I couldn't like I was like hyperventilating when he was talking about it's like I'm like such a nerd like when people say pianist I still laugh Like I just need to like grow up. I just need to grow up. Now, if let's say someone's watching this episode and they're just like really curious,

like where's the best place to see more of what you're talking about? Where would you first direct them to go? It's really easy. AngelaWhite.com. Oh. Yeah. And is that how we could get to your OnlyFans? Yeah, it'll direct to my OnlyFans.

Okay. Yeah. And is that probably like the best place to start? Yeah. I actually just released a new pegging scene. I mean, other scenes too, but. I want to peg. Will you be our peg?

Coach? Okay. I'm looking for mentors. No, I need, I haven't successfully done the prostate thing um I think not on it's not no fault of my own it's more like uh an inability for the man to relax and just say like just be like look just go with it yeah um so I'm gonna need some tips there next time hi to Todd's family i will be pegging your son hi to my parents what up just another week what up mary what's up hi to the boy i'm dating you will be back

thank you so much for teaching us all that we've learned today. It's my pleasure. And for making what I assume to be a very exciting OnlyFans that I'm sure everyone's going to enjoy. Not Esther, though. Not me, but. So, yeah, AngelaWhite.com. And I hope that you come back and hang out with us again. I would love that. And update us on if you learned what dating is.

Yeah, I don't know if I'll ever know. Yeah, thank you so much. This was really, I learned so much from you. You have a really good energy. Thank you. Thank you. We'll see you guys next week. Bye.