Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Cooking Up Hot Takes w/ David So

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

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Two sides that you cook really well. What are they? Broccolini? Okay, that's just the vegetable. But what is it? What is the dish, girl? Like when you get, you know what I'm saying? You just told me you boiled water.

So can you tell me the dish that you make? This one, I fear will be worse than the broccolini answer. I'm getting stressed. Bread? Wait, you make bread? You make this bread? No. All right, then we're moving on.

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We're actually in a secret... We had to move to a secret location. The lair. Yeah, in our lair. It's someone's basement. And we're here because something bad happened to us. I don't know what, but... Our last place got flooded.

No, it burned down. Yeah. Mysteriously. Wait, there's a lot. I have it burned down. Yeah. Mysteriously. Wait, there's a lot. I have, hello David. Wait, are you serious? Are you guys fucking around right now? That beautiful last studio?

No, no, no, it definitely burned down. Okay, I was about to say. I was just kidding. Yeah, the studio, by the way, you guys will never find it because it's 8,000 miles outside of Los Angeles. That's right. Jesus Christ.

It's so far. We're in the wilderness. We moved. If you guys ever outside of Los Angeles. That's right. Jesus Christ. It's so far We're in the wilderness We moved if you guys ever drive in Los Angeles and you start seeing only tan buildings That's how far this place is. Well, you gave it away cuz then now they know we're in the valley It's in the valley valley is huge though. That is true. This is in some mountainside. It's so I witnessed my first gangbang in Recita. Wait a second. You witnessed?

In high school in the valley. I always associate the valley with like strange shit because like in high school, that was the first time I ever witnessed like- With your naked eye? With my naked eye and it was like a friend of mine who like we slumbered over some boy's house and then she had sex with the guy she was interested in and all of a sudden his cousin started

Like coming in and she was like all about it and I was like trying to sleep like oh my god She's really she's really taking all of them and I was like, please god don't touch me. Please. God don't touch me But that's what I associate the valley with and not having a ride home. So what does she do for a living now? Oh She's like a nurse injector. Okay, well. She's doing well for herself. She's ambitious. In the valley especially.

Okay, I have to address some drama on this show. By the way, we should point out I've never been this close to you in my life. I know, I'm really nervous. Like I'm warning you, my breath is bad. You smell good. We have just enough distance for you to still think that. I have permanent halitosis.

Okay, so David, I'm glad you're here today because I have to address some conflict between me and Kalyla. And it's always easier when there's a safe person in the room. You think he's safe? I wanna hear this. Our entire relationship is him roasting me.

No, you're fine, you dumb idiot. No, he's a good, I sort of trust, well, just an adult is present. Okay. So we did an episode with Kate Berlant and there were some comments. And I also, when I watched the episode back, I actually did agree with the comments

and that's the only reason I'm bringing it up, okay? That I was being mean to you and that I was, that maybe there was something going on between us. Now I'm gonna share first and then I'll let you share. So- I love the way girls communicate. It's so cute. I'm gonna share first and then I'm gonna let you share.

That's so adorable, dude. That's just cute as shit. Guys, don't do that. That's amazing. I'm getting a sweat mustache, but please proceed. So I know in the moment of that episode, I was not having any tension with you. I was not mad at you. I was not trying to pick on you at all. But then when I watched, I'm like, oh, I see how it's like that. And then what I wanna share is I think I was not trying to pick on you at all. That's, and, but then when I watch it,

I'm like, oh, I see how it's like that. And then I'm, what I want to share is I think I was in such a mania of excitement that Kate was here. And I was like, maybe trying to be funny, but it was very dismissive of you. Wait, can you tell me what parts were mean? I did not clock anything. Do you know how much she gets verbally abused

on a regular basis? I just wanted to make sure that you didn't feel that cause I don't feel it. I can't even remember a moment. Okay, good. Like I had such a fun recording that day. I know me too. And then it's so crazy what people perceive while watching

and then actually being there. But I don't, I know I don't feel anything from that day. Can you give me an example of what you said? Like you would say something and I would just be like, oh, shut up or stop, like little things like that. Oh my, ugh. Oh, see, she was touched by her grandpa. So like, whatever you think that you did to her,

her grandfather already did a number on her. You know what I mean? I'm just relieved because I feel- Get it right, it's not my Lolo, it was my uncle and a cousin. I'm so sorry. Oh, I'm just relieved because I feel. Get it right, it's not my Lolo, it was my uncle and a cousin. I'm so sorry. Oh, I'm so sorry. There was a moment when she was trying to show you

her fish head and you said, we don't care anymore. And I think that's what. Oh, but that is like. But that was me trying to be funny. That is very valid. And honest. It's a fish head, this is very valid. It took me 30 minutes to pull up the picture

of a fish head, and so Esther was like, we don't care anymore. Okay, good, okay, good. I just, cause you know, tension can be high when you work with friends, and I wanna be always sure that we cover it and that we face it. If you're feeling anything, I want you to speak up. I definitely, not from that episode,

and certainly not for a while. Oh, okay. I will say that like the last couple months. I take it back. You and I are basically like. One? Like lesbians. Why are you trying to show her a fish head?

I was like trying to show her like what I eat regularly. You know, cause they were like. But why for 30 minutes? I couldn't find the picture. See, that's your retardation. We have to blink that way. I couldn't find the picture. That's your retardation. Severe probably ADHD, ADD. And when you're fixated on something that nobody gives a fuck about,

you have to show the fish head. Wait, do you know that one of my biggest triggers is that when I'm in hyper focus mode and I'm trying to look for something and if someone interrupts my hyper focus, it like derails me and I get like to look for something, and if someone interrupts my hyperfocus, it derails me and I get enraged. That's a severe symptom of ADHD. Oh, is it? Yes, and because remember I told you I got diagnosed, and I would use that to say that I didn't have it,

and they're like, no, that is ADHD. When you are so fixated. Too focused. It's only on stuff that stimulates you. Yeah. Right, so we get hyperfocused on it, and when somebody tries to derail that, it's like, nope, I gotta do this, I gotta do this.

Yeah, because it's so, they come few and far between, I think. Do you just be eating fish heads all day? No, just like sometimes, like fried fish, the whole fish. Don't act like you don't eat the whole fish. Don't make me look like the only Asian in the room. Wait, do you eat the eyeball though? Of course I do.

Of course you do. You don't. I can't eat the eyeball. Do you eat fish eyeballs? Absolutely not. Of course you don do. Of course you do. You don't? I can't eat the eyeball. Do you eat fish eyeballs? Absolutely not. But I'm white. You know why? Because you're a person.

And you on the other hand are a vagabond. Why would you? You know what? I wish you would take that back. I wish you would because- Out of all the things that I've said, that's the thing that hurts her the most. That hurts my feelings.

To be in a room with like a foodie Asian and for him to be like, I don't eat eyeballs. The eyeball doesn't taste like anything. It's just- It's crunchy. Oh my God. Exactly, you see that? That's a normal person's reaction. It's so weird.

It's just like the cartilage that encapsulates the gelatin inside the eye. There's gelatin. And it is not good. I don't like it. I've had it many times. You have? Yes, because my dad would be like, save it for me.

And I'm like, don't treat dad, it's all yours. That's my favorite. I'm like, oh, whatever, you take it. Nobody's fighting for the eyeball. You know what I also love in the fish? Everyone tries to remove like the bloodline, like the darker meat in the fish. You like that?

It is so delicious for me. Ever since I was a kid, I was like, save the bloodline for her. You're like, oh, Kalei is here. Just give her the garbage. Everybody's having a great time. Is that what I've been eating my whole life, just like scraps and garbage?

Pretty much, the bloodline is very irony. It has like this very off taste to it. That's why most people remove it. Like when you have, for example, let's say you do any type of sashimi, right? They cut the bloodline out because it has this iron, minerally taste. What is a bloodline? So the bloodline is exactly what it is. They cut the bloodline out because it has this iron, minerally tasty. It's not.

What is a bloodline? So the bloodline is exactly what it is. It's the bloodline of the fish. And you can always tell because if you look at a fillet of fish, there's sort of a hint of a darker line at the edge of it where they removed a thicker portion. Are you saying a fillet of fish or a fillet-o fish? Fillet of fish.

Okay, not the McDonald's sandwich? Right there, that's the blood line. The middle part, the blood line. Gross, I don't like it. Oh, I think it's, you're either really into it or you're not at all. I think most people don't like it. Yeah.

And then there's you. Exactly, that is true. I think that's what happens. What's like the most exotic thing that you eat? You're not talking the right girl. I, Do you know What do I eat that's on a regular basis? I I'm very very curious because I had one white friend in high school named kale and when he

His name is kale. I won't say his last name was a funny ass last name but he married a Filipino girl and when he when married, his fucking food world exploded. Because he never had, what he said, he goes, I just never had this many flavors before. So I would ask him, what do you eat on a regular basis? He was like, you know, like casseroles, which I thought it was just kind of stereotyped. Casseroles.

Which, casseroles, what I found out is like a white person's fried rice. Because you know how we just throw everything in fried rice or whatever? That's like a white person's version of it. Is that true? But like casserole is just like one pot, right? It's like, no.

It's like in a baked dish. Yeah, it's like a baked pan. It's not a pot. But here's what I don't understand about casterels and confuses me. Cause their range of what a casserole could be is like broccoli and cheddar. What?

I had a hard time with that word. Broccoli? Broccoli? Damn, the girl saw my eyes hard time with that word. Broccoli? Broccoli? Damn, the girl saw my eyes and she was like, is it broccary? Damn. Oh yeah, we did. My mom did, you actually caught me there.

You're right, my mom did make a broccoli cheese chicken casserole. And then there's also green bean casserole. Yeah, and it's so different. And then it can also range into more like stewy casseroles. Is that a thing? Yeah, I think to me, casserole is just something in like a baked tray.

Yeah, and you just, all the stuff that you just have to get rid of, you just throw it in there and you bake it with cheese and cream and shit. No, that sounds good. And it tastes good. That's like fried rice. You just throw whatever in there.

I think that's what it is. Yeah, that makes sense to me, but that also sounds good. I don't think I've had a casserole I like turned away from. I don't think there's been food I've turned away from. I'm pretty sure you have. Is there food that you absolutely hate? What? I don't like okra very much. Like eating whole okra. Okra's delicious. You don't like okra? So I like that it's a thickening agent and I use it to cook things. But as a whole okra, no thank you. It's true, it reminds me of snot. And also here's a big one guys, carrot.

What? I just ate like 17 carrots this morning. I am on such a huge carrot kick. This is hitting me. I'm blindsided. I have been making raw carrot salad. It is like the most energizing part of my day, making my carrot salad. What? Okay, What is the issue?

My mom force fed carrots to me when I was younger and then I would vomit and it would come out my nose and then she would bring me another set of carrots. Okay. So carrots to me are like such a. I have a thing with that. This is Korean dish. If any Korean person is listening, it's called gomtang.

And gomtang is a dish that you basically boil bones and like marrow. It's like a very, everybody loves this shit. It's like the most delicious thing everybody eats. I would eat it and I would throw up immediately. But my mom used to always say this phrase, like this Korean phrase is like, 너 비싼 거 뭔지 몰라. That means you don't know what expensive tastes are. And so she would force feed me this shit every year. She would make it every December till I was like 18.

In my mouth, throw up every December. And she would just say the same phrase, you don't know what expensive things are. So I would throw up consecutively 18 years in a row. What is it about the taste that makes you throw up or is it just the memory that makes you throw up? It's too just fatty, it's too marrowy, it just has that beef marrow taste that's just in every little bit and I don't like it.

I just don't like it. But do you eat usually like cartilage or tripas and stuff like that? I hate the stomach lining, the tripe. The entrails. The tripe, I fuck, have you seen a tripe before? It's disgusting. On the menu, I've never ordered it though.

It's disgusting. What is it? It is the stomach lining of a cow and it's honeycomb shaped. So just the design of that God created is just. It's beautiful, it looks like my tattoo. What in the hell are you? This is three buzz right here.

What is it? Why do people eat it? I don't know. This is the thing. I know what he's saying. It tastes like a stomach. It tastes like entrails. I don't even know what a stomach tastes like.

Look at that shit. Look at that thing on the far right, the yellow one. That's what it looks like. Yeah. It looks like an alien baby sack. Does it taste like meat? It tastes stronger than meat. It has a very strong flavor for sure,

but mixed in with menudo or mixed in with other types. What's menudo? A menudo is a- You don't know what menudo is? You've been in LA, you don't know what menudo is? No, I'm from Illinois, I don't know anything. I just tried sushi in my 30s. For real?

Yeah. Yeah, I'm very beginner, very, very beginner. Wait, what is menudo? Menudo is a stew and it's a Mexican stew. Is it Mexican? It has a bunch of like, oafal in it, like a bunch of entrance. What's oafal?

Like, organ meat. I thought it was oafal. What's o'fall? Like, organ meat. I thought it was o'fall. It's o'fall. Wow, I learned something new. Wait, hold on a second. Now you fucking me up. Is it o'fall or o'fall? Am I frenching my shit up real quick?

I think I'm frenching it up, huh? Why are you targeting it? Oh, my bad. Oh shit, my bad. Excuse me. My bad. Wait, Esther, so I actually think you would like the thing, the menudo soup or sauce itself you would love. It's very flavorful.

The entrails. And by the way, if you find a good menudo spot, you have to keep it for the rest of your life, because there's a lot of places that doesn't clean the organs very well. Yeah. And it tastes like the organ. So it's just like this organ soup.

But people who do it really well, they clean, they boil it before they add it into the soup, and then it becomes flavored. But even menudo, when it has the tripe in there, I just want to go back in the kitchen. It's like, why? Why? There's real beef. So you don't need Filipino dinuguan. No, dinuguan is fine because it's all chopped up. Okay, please explain. Okay, this is blowing my mind. Esther, we're gonna have a real debate here. How on earth could you think menudo is disgusting, but you eat dinuguan?

Because dinuguan has vinegar and salt, and it's just, I like liver taste. The liver taste is fine to me. But it's literally pig's blood stew with entrails. Bitch don't say it like that. What is exactly what it is? If you say it like that, then nobody gonna wanna eat it. It's pig's blood stew with entrails. Let's not say it like that. What is exactly what it is? If you say it like that, then nobody gonna wanna eat it. It's pig's blood.

Yes. Yeah. Well, I don't even know. It tastes really good. Bay leaves, there's herbs, there's vinegar, there's salt. It's very, very tasty. Okay, but see, you're kind of almost giving the vegans reasoning why meat is bad,

which I'm not vegan, I love eating meat, whatever, but they always say it's the spicing, the flavoring that tastes good, not the meat, and I'm only hearing from you, vinegar, spices, salt. So what is it that you really like here? I don't know, do people just like walking up and just eating a handful of celery? That shit's whack.

So that argument doesn't make any sense. You know what I'm saying? Oh, vegans just be pissing me off sometimes. Y'all eat what you want, let me eat what I want, all right? True, true. You fucking pieces of shit. What's wrong with you, dude? I'm on your side, I swear.

Look, I'm neutral. I don't know what, I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but pig's blood, what does that taste like? It just has a liver taste. If you like the taste of liver, you'll like it. What does liver taste like? Damn girl, do you, okay. I thought you were going on a liver journey.

I got liver supplements. Oh. And to answer your question, the craziest thing I've eaten, it's that, it's liver supplements. Liver supplements like milk thistle? Wait. That's good for your liver or you're eating liver? Desiccated.

Oh, okay. Liver. In a pill. So when you go to like a restaurant, can you only eat like 10% of the stuff on the menu? Well, not if I go to McDonald's and I can eat everything. Damn girl, you gonna die in 10 years. That's crazy.

No, this is what I, I do feel like the white person diet is so bad for you. And you guys are like, you're doing it way better and more right. Sometimes. What do you, what do you eat that you think? I feel like. Because in Filipino food, it's a lot of very fried, like very indulgent. You want to see a culture that hates vegetables? Filipino people.

That's not true. Girl. We have pinakbet. Okay. Okay. And you have a few like, like. Filipino people. That's not true. Girl. We have pinak bed. Okay, okay. And you have a few like, like steaming gong and stuff like that. But the major foods that people like look like that. You see that pile of poop?

That's one of my favorite Filipino dishes. And what is it? That's the pig blood. The pig blood, yeah. Oh. Look how cute it looks as a. What's the meat? It's pork? It could be, it's entrails, what's the meat? It's pork.

It could be, it's entrails, pork, it's a bunch of stuff. Because the idea is you utilize the whole animal, right? Which is good. This is what I'm learning. I want to do that. But a lot of more like now modern, more fancier restaurants, they'll just use like pork shoulder or pork belly.

Do you guys, would you ever consider going in on a cow share with me? Do you know what that is? What is that? Okay, a cow share is when farmers will sell a whole cow, but you split it with people. So they do the butchering and you get like, you can buy one eighth of a cow, one quarter of a cow.

Indeed, what if we're fighting over what part? Because I feel like- Well, we'll have to go take our turns picking. There are two sides though. There's a company, it's called Crowd Cow that does it. They actually butcher the whole cow and then people can pick whatever parts of it. I like that.

This podcast is sponsored by Crowd Cow. What parts would you fight for? When it comes to beef, my favorite is the flat iron, skirt steak, a flat iron skirt steak will probably be my two favorite pieces of beef and also the ribeye cap. The ribeye is called the eye is kind of whatever to me, but the cap is really good. So those are my three favorite beef.

How do I know which one I like? So when you go on like on a website, it has the name. But so we had ribeye this week actually, not to brag. I did have ribeye. How exotic. So it was a huge, huge deal. How would you compare ribeye to the thing that you said is your favorite?

So different cuts of beef, surprisingly, they do taste really different, right? Depends on like how much fat is in there, how much the muscle is used. So, I mean, this might sound very general, but skirt steak, flat iron, and like those types of beef and like the ribeye cap have a very beefy taste. When you have something like an eye of brown

or you have the eye of the ribeye, it actually tastes pretty plain. Same thing with something like a tenderloin. Very, very tender, but it doesn't really have much flavor. Right? So if I put, let's say I cut up a skirt steak that we grilled and I put like the eye of a ribeye, you will taste something a lot more profoundly beefy

in the skirt steak than you would the eye of the ribeye. Do you know all this, what he's saying? No, I didn't, but you're such a man because the guy that I'm with now, this is all he does is explain beef parts to me. Because like, you know, like he hunts, he hunts, right? And he has to butcher everything himself.

Oh, he's like a man, man. He's a man, man. Yeah, and so like, he'll be like, hey, I have wild pork and then he'll show me the different parts and stuff. And you're like, I have fish head. You wanna see picture fish head? Both of you guys are boring each other to death. Like, Jesus Christ, can you shut the fuck up I have fish head. You wanna see picture fish head? Both of you gonna bore each other to death. Like Jesus Christ, can you shut the fuck up

about the fish head? But I have pork. So I've been learning a lot more about very specific parts and what's more robust with flavor and stuff. But he has the exact same answer as David in terms of like what parts taste beefier, even though maybe they might not be as like tender. So I'm learning all about the round, the chuck,

the cap, everything. Yeah, certain beefs are a little tougher. You have to cook it a little longer. Things you could grill. There's all this other type of stuff. It's definitely a strong sign of masculinity if you know about meat and if you can cook meat. Like in

our relationship like I usually make the vegetables and the sides whatever and then Dave will come in for the meat and I'm like this is the man. Two sides that you cook really well what are they? Broccolini. Okay that's just the vegetable but what is the dish girl? You know what you get, you know what I'm saying? You just told me you boiled water. So can you tell me the dish that you make? That irritated the hell out of me. Can you just, for reals, right now, peanuts? Like bitch, that's just the ingredient.

Like what's the dish? Broccolini with lemon? All right, so you just took two things and you just put it next to each other. What do you do with it? Okay, OK. Everybody buckle up. Fasten your seatbelt.

I take the broccolini. I wash it and then. I add salt and garlic powder and lemon, and then I put it in the air fryer and then when it comes out. I add more lemon. That sounds pretty good. Really? Do you add any fat to it though?

Any butter, any oil? Oh, I forgot. I add oil. Okay, what kind? Olive. Okay. Is there other oil? Very simple, very good.

Second dish that you make. Stella? Stella, you're looking at somebody else. I know, what's another dish you make? Well, this one I fear will be worse than the broccoli answer. I'm getting stressed. Bread? Wait, you make bread?

You make this bread? No. All right, then we're moving on. I serve the bread. I serve the bread. Then I go get it. Is it out of thin air? It is out of thin air. Okay, that is, we'll say.

Have you had that? What, bread out of thin air? Out of, no. Yeah, it's a sourdough. Are you Jesus Christ? What are you talking about? She does know her sourdough and she put me onto this one farmers market.

Bread called out of thin air, which we can't even. They have a gochujang. They have a gochujang. Oh, I've had it. And a black sesame. It is really good. I get the black sesame sourdough because the gochujang. Oh, I've had it. It's really, really good. It is really good. I get the black sesame sourdough

because the gochujang is a little too spicy for me. Girl, that's not spicy at all. I know. I, you are right. Now I feel bad. You look so abused. I'm so sorry. I was like, you're right.

You're right. It isn't spicy. Can I have tissues? My nose is just leaking for no reason. That is literally the state you're in every time I'm on this podcast. I'm scared you're allergic to me. Wait, what sides should I make?

Potato starch. Oh, porados. Porados. What's that? Potatoes. That's just how Indian people say potatoes. Okay. Sweet potatoes maybe, healthier. Yeah. Yeah. Is there something that I'm not doing to my,

give me a veggie that you would. Well usually when people say like they have dishes that they make, they have like a couple. You know, they're like, oh I make this good and I make that good. You were like, broccoli. I'm working on a Greek lemon chicken with potatoes. It just has not turned out good yet.

You know, if you really like simple food that's delicious, Mediterranean, you know, you can Greek lemon chicken with potatoes. It just has not turned out good yet. If you really like simple food that's delicious, Mediterranean food is the shit. They're very fresh ingredients, super simple. People even go on a Mediterranean diet if they wanna lose weight.

I made a miso salmon and it ended up delicious, but it started a fire. How? I didn't realize parchment paper would catch on fire in the broiler. And so the broiler, I didn't know the, do you guys know what the broiler does? Yes. It's a fire.

Did you know that? Yeah, it's there to brown your stuff at the last minute. It's a real flame. And so I didn't realize I would actually start a fire and it did, but the end result, it's about the, oh no, it is about the journey, and it did. But the end result, it's about the, oh no, it is about the journey, not the destination. But in this case, it was about the destination. What did your parents cook?

That casserole I told you about earlier? I'm like trying to figure out, because you said- Meatloaf? So they never, so did you ever have a moment where your parents like taught you how to like cook dishes? David, was this your first day getting to know me? They never did. They taught me nothing. They taught me nothing.

They taught me nothing. Did your parents teach you things? I think it's not like a direct teaching. It was more like I had to help in the kitchen and to be a sous chef. So my dad was always like, his two daughters always had to help in the kitchen. There was like no getting away from that.

Really, did you enjoy it? Was it bonding? It was bonding. My sister did a better job. I think he loved her more for sure. Wait, I didn't know that. Yeah, he loved her more. I think I was-

Oh, kids can feel that. Yeah. He loved her more because I think I was too much like him. I had a very raw, kind of dangerous energy about me where I was like, I had big ideas, big imagination, a big mouth. And so my sister was more subservient and listened to his instructions. And I was like, what about this? And so my sister was more like subservient and like listened to his

instructions and I was like, what about this? And, and it was annoying probably for an adult to be around me. Whoa. Did you ever get to tell your dad like you liked her more than me? Um, no, but I think, um, I, it didn't have to be said. Like it was pretty obvious. I think he told me that. I like her more than you. He did? No, I think we were too similar. He saw so much of myself, of himself in me. So much so that when I was a teenager, he was like, I really fear for your safety in general.

Cause you have my spirit, but in the shape of a girl. If he said, if you did ask him that, what do you think he would have said? Because I know what my dad said when I asked him that. What, wait, that, whether or not he loves my sister more than me? Yeah. No, he would have been so diplomatic

and said something like- Oh, that's a good man. My dad said, of course. Yeah. Really? He was like, of course. He said, you, the retard. And I was like, damn, all right. And then my mom chimed in and she goes, no, no, no, you the retard. And I was like, damn, all right.

And then my mom chimed in and she goes, no, no, no, no, no, because you're so stupid. They just made it 10 times. I remember sitting there just like, you guys aren't helping me at all. It was like, what's your sibling age difference? Three years. Oh, that's close enough that there would be some level of like, you know, he, he was, I understand why he was favored though, right? It makes sense.

He was the first born, right? On top of that, he was quiet. He got like really good grades, never gone to any fights. It was just easier to deal with. Yeah. So I, you know, when parents say I don't have favorite kids, bullshitting. Bullshit for sure. Every parent has a favorite kid. You have a favorite dog, you have a favorite cat, you can have a favorite kid. Bullshit. And bullshit for sure. Every parent has a favorite kid.

You have a favorite dog, you have a favorite cat, you can have a favorite kid. It's understandable. And guess what parents? We see it. We see it all. I see it so much. But see, I ask my sister this all the time

because I'm like, okay, she'll spill the tea and she has two kids, but she always says it changes. It goes back and forth. But she has a favorite for the season. Yeah, yes. And then the next season it's like somebody forth. But she has a favorite for the season. Yeah. And then the next season it's like somebody else. But maybe when it's the same, she has a boy and a girl. Maybe when you have two of the same gender.

Oh maybe, yeah. You know which one's better. I do think it kind of boils down to, unfortunately though, the easier child. And I was not. Oh, for sure. I was not the easier child because like, let's be real. Like the big imaginative, big energy kids, they are, let's be real, like, like the, the big imaginative, big energy kids, they are, they can be annoying and they can also take so much

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And it's super toxic in that way, because let's suppose like my mom says something completely wrong that I know factually is wrong. There's a car coming. There's a car coming, exactly. And let's say there's no car coming. And I say. There's no car there. And I was like, what are you talking about? There's a car coming. There's a car coming, exactly. And let's say there's no car coming. And I say, there's no car there. And I was like, what are you talking about?

There's no car there. I would get a backhand because I would, especially publicly, like I could never, it's so disrespectful to challenge an elder. And the car hits her, she's flying in the air. You're still wrong. And then she's just like. Cooking dinner is so overwhelming.

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do you have memories of adults not understanding you and you just being so frustrated or which this I'm you're already you've explained it but like like, when adults, for me, one of the worst parts of my childhood was when adults would talk down to me. And I would, because at home, I felt much different than you. Like, I felt almost like an equal, which I don't think is a good thing. Like, it's not discipline.

It might be better than my situation though, because you were able to like voice. Balance would be good. Balance would be good, because mine is like, I'm a chaotic adult now. Like I have no discipline and whatever, it's a struggle. But so at home, I was an equal, I could say what I felt. But then when I would go to a friend's house

and a parent would talk down to me, like I was so frustrated because I was like, why are they treating me like I'm a little kid? And it made me feel so horrible. And I actually was talking about this with Dave recently and he said that I probably had it worse than him because I was a small girl. But I don't know, do you guys have memories

of adults talking to you and you being like, I'm like, stop it, like I'm bigger than this. Don't treat me like this. Well, I think it makes sense for you too because you were so tiny and even today, you still look so young. That it is something I imagine you went through more so than him and I,

who are probably taller stature, bigger kids. I wonder for you, so when you did something wrong or that your parents disagree with, how would they speak to you, confront you, or punish you or how would they deal with that? I don't really remember, I mean. Damn. Wow. That must be nice.

Really, so the, oh. I still have the chair in my house that my dad threw at my head. So this is blue little office chair, the back's missing, and it's still there. I think he keeps it as a trophy. But it's like, there's nobody sits on this thing, why is it still in the house?

Can you please get rid of it? And he just sits on it. I like it. That's always fascinating. So I've seen like two versions of this, right? There's like probably our version where it was very, very extreme. Where a parent wouldn't acknowledge

like your child is growing up as an adult, as a human being, they had their own ideas. And everything is, no matter what you say, it's about me being right and you being wrong. And that's just where it ends, right? Which is very, very bad. And there's the other side, where I know somebody who has never been punished, chastised, or anything at all.

And let me tell you, this bitch is the most annoying creature I've ever met in my fucking life. I know a couple. And you wanna know why? It's because they grew up in an environment where their shit didn't stink. So everything they say is gold. And if you disagree, it's like, what the,

what do you mean I'm amazing? It's because their parents have ingrained this idea that you're awesome, you're awesome, everything you do is right. So when you disagree with them, they feel like it's an attack. It's like, oh, how could you do, how could you say, what do you mean?

Why are they being so mean to me? It's not mean. You live in the fucking real world. People will disagree with you. People won't see eye to eye with the things that you think is correct. And that's just how the world is. And so I've seen like, like two sides of it and it's just, it's so weird. Like, I don't know how to deal with that.

The other end of it though, is like super entitled, right? Yeah. That, that to me is like the scariest version of a human where they just feel entitled to everything, everyone's time, like, and they just have, that's how I always tell my sister, every time I encounter one of those in the wild, I'm like, oh, like they've never been slapped

in the mouth once. And it's like the urge. To do the slapping. To be a person who slaps them in the mouth is like real big with me because I was slapped too much in the mouth is like real big with me because I was slapped too much in the mouth. So I'm on the opposite end.

So I think there's a level of like envy I have when I see people like that where I'm like, fuck, I wish I had that audacity. The audacity. Yeah. Let me just give you an example. So with this person, I mean, we're not friends, but this person is within the group. And I grew up in an environment where everybody can say their piece and then we'll figure out what we'd like about the conversation

and then who the fuck cares, right? And that's how you have fun conversations but this person brought up an idea and basically I was like, I don't agree with that. I think that's really weird. Like, why do you think that way? Well, this person couldn't. But wait, he's saying it though.

Why do you think that way? Why is your brain mush? Okay. Why are you stupid? Well when you say it like that, now I sound really mean. But everybody talks like that in the group, not just me. People speak to me that way too. And I'm like, and then you defend your point.

Well this person was just like, I don't know, just because. And I'm like, well just because isn't a reason. Like we're having a conversation. Because I said so. Basically, right? And I don't like that because it reminds me of my parents. Because I said because I said there's no reason there's no why and I think it's very disrespectful for you to In a conversation for you to have a definitive cement point and then somebody challenges it and you go just because I said so So I was like, well, here's the reasons why I think that's wrong

So can you tell me why you think that well this person didn't say anything they shut down and then afterwards? I found out what's later this person didn't say anything, they shut down. And then afterwards, I found out months later, this person cried and went home and cried. And then, which made me hate them even more. And so, and they were telling me, like, oh, you actually made this person cry. And I was like, girl. And so.

Why do you say it like we were supposed to know? Oh, like the guy's gonna be like, oh David, please. So this girl, she ends up, you know, crying. And then she basically asked the other people, say, hey, when we have conversations, can you guys like check David for me? And then basically what they said was, because they're like me, they go, yeah, we have no problem,

but you have to tell us what he said that was wrong. So if we have a conversation with him about your feelings being hurt and you crying, can you tell us what he said that was wrong? And she was like, I don't have a reason. He just hurt my feelings. And they're like, then we agree with him then. It's not right. So now that girl hates all of it. That feels so deep. That feels like a deep wound and not like, I don't know.

That also feels like she, every, the whole world does her bidding for her. Oh yes, and so I did a little deep dive on who this person was and their background story. Never been yelled at, never been grounded, never been punished. Her parents treat her like she's a queen. Everything she does is absolutely amazing. It's like the stars in the skies are all her.

That tracks. This is the world that she lives in. How she speaks to her husband, the husband worships the fucking ground that she walks on. And so when he speaks, if he says something like, for example, his emotions go, I feel this way, she'll take it as, oh, you should think you should consider about how bad you feel because it reflects on me because it makes me look like a bad wife. That sounds just like pure narcissism to me. That's what I'm saying. But it's like, I kind of figured it out to like the parents and how they kind of raised her.

It's like, oh, she could never do any wrong. But I think that the tricky thing about narcissism is that it usually stems from being praised, but also being emotionally neglected. So like typically it's someone who's praised for just the obvious big things, but then not being taken care of emotionally. So I bet you if you were to dig even deeper,

I don't think her emotional needs were met, only the very exterior or external stuff. Damn, too bad I fucking hate her, so. I hate her. I hate her. The damage on our life. Wait. This is a nightmare too, and this is a person who has,

who does a very good job of pretending like she's amazing. You know what I mean? So when people initially meet this person, they like her for the first day and the second day they go, there's something off about this person. Now that is a very common thing I feel like in our business is like the people that put on the big show and the charm and then you kind of take one little look further

and you're like, whoa. I'm scared. And what happens too with what I found out is that older people around our age, they can see it fast. Younger people can't because they're a little more naive. Yeah.

And so they don't get it. But then when this person is introduced to adults, they all go, what the fuck's then when this person is introduced to adults, they all go, what the fuck's wrong with this person? Well, I also find that like in my 20s, I was looking for those people. I wanted to be around those people because they were fun and exciting and entertaining.

And then you go through that life experience and in your 30s you're like, oh, suddenly I see that if someone is like this magical escape from reality for me, that's not good. And by the way, I don't think this person is a bad human being, by the way. I don't think it's a bad person at all.

Just not my type of person. Yeah, that's fine. Do you guys have like, because you guys are both in relationships, do you find that one person in the relationship is, it's more important to them for them to be right? Like, because for me, Dave really likes to be right, and he is also always right. And so I realized, like only recently did I realize that this is a strength that we

have in our partnership is that I, much like you know, I don't mind losing, I also don't mind being wrong, I love to learn, so whenever we do a thing, I just accept defeat immediately. I'm like, when you were saying with that girl how she said something and then you were like, explain why, and then she would just say, because for me, my version of that would be, nevermind, I'm wrong. Like I would just, I'm just so quick to admit being wrong.

Or do you guys have that kind of dynamic? I think when I was younger, I was afraid of reprimand or being told that I possibly did something. Not because, no other reason than I just felt shameful that I made a mistake and I thought that my mom's fists would come out of a corner and like slap me for it. Like that's just like a program thing, right? Like to think that I made a mistake, therefore there's going to be extreme

punishment and so like, it was hard for me to admit my wrong when I was younger. But now as an adult, I love being wrong. Nothing turns me on more than my partner being like, well, and then he challenges me on something. And I'm like, oh my God, like I was so off course there. I know, I feel like Dave like thinks he's getting one over me on me for being right. And I'm like, sure, but it's also, you're just, I'm turned on.

Like it's so hot when someone else is right. You feel so abused. Wow. That's like your guys' thing. Yeah, I don't, I absolutely like it's one of those. Tell me I'm stupid right now. My most recent like life pleasures is being proven wrong, saying I'm sorry and really genuinely like not feeling shame around being wrong.

I will say though, finding a person in your life that you're with that can apologize is probably one of the biggest signs that I think that you should probably keep this person. Yes, I agree. Because there's so many people who can't say sorry, right? And I used to be one of them as well. Well, we've been discussing that,

that's a huge strength in our friendship is that we say sorry, you know, whenever we need to. You might say sorry too much. That beginning shit was weird. I don't know what that was about. You know her old background story. But I think it's, she's worried that I'm-

Keeping it in. Keeping it in and like letting it stew. Do you keep stuff in or do you confront? Oh, I let- She'll keep it in. If we're not close, I will letting it stew. Do you keep stuff in or do you confront? Oh, I let, if we're not close, I will let it stew and I'll hold it in. And then I'll, in my head, I'm like, I think it's because I'm not a person who reacts quickly

and I need like processing time. My processing speed is slow. Also you think she was processing a little bit. Well, I actually in my gut felt like there was no issue, but I just wanted to like triple check. Trust your gut. Yeah, because we had such a fun day that day. Yeah, and also like you said, we've been so close lately.

Yeah. You know, there was a group of girls that I was around where there was this kind of diet. So I guess I do understand because three girls, one of them, there was a new girl within this three person group, right? And I guess one of them kinda said some, like a joke, right?

And then later on they found out that that joke hurt that other girl's feelings, but only because there was a third girl present. And she wasn't really, I guess, a part of the joke, per se, and she kinda held that in for a long time. And she never- really, I guess, a part of the joke, per se. And she kind of held that in for a long time. And she never confronted her about it. But what she did, which I thought was very, very bad, is that with the third girl that was the other neutral party,

afterwards, she started talking shit about the other girl to her. And like, oh, you know, she makes jokes about me because she's trying to be dominant. That's how possessive she is. Like, she's actually very weak minded. And it's like, that's scary triangle. Yeah.

Why would you, in my mind, I was like, well, if you had a problem, you should have done that. You know, I should have spoken to each other, even if it's nothing, I guess it's nice to just do that anyway. So you could have a peace of mind and then just clear the air. If we're all friends though, sometimes if I have a big reaction to something, I will check with the other person to see if, hey, like did I overreact? Was that like my bad? And I will, but that's the extent of it. Have you two ever gotten into an argument or a fight?

Yeah. Yeah. About oat milk. All right. That wraps up this podcast guys. That's not a real fucking argument. What was it? Tell me the oatmeal, I need to hear it now.

We did talk about it on a recent episode, but like- I need to hear it though. Tell me the stupid fucking story about oatmeal, please. It was actually such a big sister, little sister sort of feeling. It was. Which I was just being annoying at a coffee shop, asking too many questions.

It had been a long day already. Let me set the scene. It had been a long work day. Long work day, travels involved. And I also think, I just, I think Kaila was embarrassed by like how much I, the white woman was white womaning. You know what I mean? Like asking all my questions.

And then after- What farm did the oats come from? Exactly. Yes. If I had thought of farm did the oats come from? Exactly. Yes. If I had thought of that question, I would have asked it. I think you asked to get the oat milk and to look at the-

I did. I, yes, I did. At the coffee shop? Mm-hmm. I would have chucked your ass out in the middle of the street. That reminds me of my wife so much. It just triggered the whole other thing.

Really? My wife is the type of person that when we order, and there's like 30 people behind us, she'll ask every question she wants to ask. And I'm like, bitch, do you not see the army behind us? Oh look, they're married and in love. Oh my God, I'm so excited. We have a chance.

We have a chance. Look at that, I'm telling you. And then she'll just be like, okay, so what do you recommend? And then they'll give you a list of things. She goes, I don't like any of that. So what, and I'm sitting there just like, if you don't, please, like, if you, I will kill you right now. And she goes, I just don't know any of that. So what, and I'm sitting there just like, if you don't please, like if you,

I will kill you right now. And she goes, I just don't know what I want. What do you do in that situation though? I reacted completely weird. I short-circuited and I just left. And I mean, like I didn't just leave. I left in a separate vehicle and I just didn't say a word because I was like, oh, I felt overwhelmed.

And I was like- Are you ordering felt overwhelmed. And I was like. Are you ordering? So Kaila, what are you? What the fuck? Where'd you go? Basically, in fact, it wasn't until our next stop at an airport that we reconvened and that's when I got in trouble.

Yeah, and we both. Wait, what did you say to her? I don't remember. I just, she felt gaslit. Really bitch? Oatmeal? She felt, she felt gaslit. Oatmeal? She felt, you felt gaslit. Did I?

Yeah, because I think in my people-pleasy way, I tried to come up with a reason as to why I left. I was like, oh, hey, I just had to leave, and I gave a different reason. Instead of being honest and saying, I felt overwhelmed by the oat milk situation. This is so stupid. We're going.

I saw somebody walking by the airport. What the fuck is wrong with these girls? And then I said something like, you're such a little princess. I don't remember what you said, but the only thing I remember is for going like this. That's fighting shit right there. Oh, thank you. No you did You think it oh milk you know where oatmeal comes from you fucking know all right

It's important because like all right cuz I don't fucking care in my head to I was like No, not even that great it causes inflammation. I know that now okay. This is 2021 We're right here. You're in flaming my emotion I know that now. Okay, this is 2021. We're right here. You're fucking inflating my emotions When it finally did come out it was like aggressive and I really truly felt bad because she's you're right You are so small and you just had your little suitcase there and I was like listen here little princess And I really came at her heart and I felt so fucking bad afterwards But then the apology came what three hours after super fast? Super fast, yeah. Like, we recovered. Three hours is fast?

Well, but we had to be separated. No, we had to be separated. Which is good, but by the way, your first instinct was the right one, which is to, like, remove yourself from the situation. Like, that's what- You guys are married. Yeah.

This is marriage, because this is absolutely stupid. By the way, you and Marielle's, like, same situation really brings me hope, because this is absolutely stupid. By the way, you and Marielle's like same situation really brings me hope, because I feel like that is ultimately like the true test of like a friendship is being so opposite of each other in that way, especially when 30 people are behind you and still sort of like working it out.

Like there couldn't be someone more different like in nature to me than Esther. But somehow I like really find her company super entertaining. I just, it. It's because her annoying shit right there, there's an application for it at the right place. Oat milk, not so much.

You know, but your flight is missing and you wanna know why you're trying to figure out a way to get there. You ask the right questions, you annoy these people, you'll get it done. And that's where it applies. Yes. Oat milk bitch, no.

All right. I don't think it's about the oat milk though. It's not about, it actually. It's about something deeper I feel like and that you figured out together. It just happened to be oat milk. Oh yeah, yeah, it was just that, totally. Yeah, but I think that you're absolutely right.

I think that I find her to be like if if someone was really like Being terrible with me. Like I know that she would Stand up and probably be like hey don't fucking you know So and so like I do trust her in in all the ways the old milk was not the correct application Yeah, I'll give you a great example right for me. Let's say mariel's the the oat milk person I just like oh where do they'll come from? me, let's say, Mariel's the oat milk person. She's like, oh, where did the oat milk come from?

Oh, okay, the consistency's a little off. Can I try a different oat milk? That's really annoying, right? But let's say, for example, we were in Taiwan and then we messed up our flight dates. She went at customer, because they messed it up so hard. For me, I'm just like, I'm gonna pay for the ticket. I don't care, whatever.

I'll just pay another few grand and we'll just get home. It's like, no, no, no, it's their fault. We're gonna figure this out and it's not gonna come out of our pocket, which is the right thing. I just don't wanna deal with that type of stuff, but because of her personality set, she gets it done. I wouldn't do that.

So it fits in the right places, right? So there are times that she should relax, where she should take a page out of my book, and there's times where you have to be adamant about the things that need to be correct, and that's where she fits. So I'm just like, oh, what makes her annoying here is actually really good at the right situations. Right.

So she kind of fulfills the roles that I can't fulfill myself. I do appreciate that about Esther's, that her processing speed is very fast. So she can tell you her feelings almost like right then and there. And I'm a little bit like slower. But I think that when it comes to like real confrontation and when it's time to confront, I have it very, it's like I'm a lawyer. You're zero to a hundred.

No, like I'm very like, I won't miss a beat because I've taken time to process. Oh yes, I've seen a podcast where you've done this. Flashback. It's so, it's true. You are like, I wonder, yeah, you are so much better than me at that. Like, cause I'm just, I just feel like

if I ever needed some sort of defense or just someone to have my back, like you're the one. Because you break everything down. You're so intelligent, honestly honestly is what it is. Don't you guys just fuck each other right now? I know, I know. You guys are so good at that, you guys just compliment each other,

so kind, very sweet, I like it. What do you love about her? We can't be in a coffee shop together, that's all. Well now you know, like the moment you see oatmeal, just walk away. Maybe get into your car and then fucking drive away and then come right back, dude. Okay, so I have one more thing to bring up,

which I think is really important, and I think David should be here for this. You told me to watch a show on Hulu called Perfect Wife. I don't know if you've ever heard of it. I don't know if you've heard the story. Any of you about Sherry Papini? That's not a real person, but Sherry Papini? Can you give the breakdown? That's a real person.

We have a new, basically we have a new Lord and Savior. Okay, it's true. I do wanna get spoiler alert. Okay, yeah. So this is spoiler alert. It's called The Perfect Wife on Hulu. If you wanna participate in this conversation, pause, go watch it, come back.

It's a three-part docu-series. Spoiler alert. Okay, proceed. So, it's about a woman who goes missing and she basically is the real-life Gone Girl. She kidnapped herself. She disappeared on her own accord. She's like, everyone's looking for her, it's all this stuff. But the best part about the story is who assists her in her own kidnapping. She reaches out to one of her ex-boyfriends and he, she basically shows up at his house and she's like, so I'm going to go missing.

You need, I need your help. And he does everything she says. They don't even have sex. This loyal man. Simp? He, he just That her simp? He just, he houses her. By the way, nationwide search on underway

and he's just got her chilling like risking it all, you know, cause he could get in huge trouble. But who does this, who does this make me think of? Kalei La. What? That's what this was about? Because you made me watch this because. No, because I feel that you have ex-boyfriends out there

that if you showed up, and this should be every girl's goal, that when you show up to your ex, he will just break the law for you and just house you. What do you think makes her so special that men go crazy about? My sweat mustache, obviously. Profuse sweating from her feet and hands? Is that the thing that turns everybody on?

Her ability to hold things in for months and then explode later? What, you don't like to explain to me what it is? Oh my God. The constant boogers that fly through her nose every podcast? Neither of us have ever had sex with her, so we don't know what's really going on there.

Or maybe that's what it is. No, but I think, I don't know what it is, but I do know that she has an ex for sure that would do this. Yeah, at least one for sure, but I think we all do. There's always that one person in our life who would just be so blindly just be like, yeah, absolutely, that sounds something

like something I would do for you. That sounds like some hot bitch shit. But the flip side of this guy is that when the police did show up, he just told them everything that happened right away without being pressured, I think. Right, he gave all the information up. So he was like, it was so intricate

that when she was found at the side of the road and rescued. And she had been gone for 22 days and they thought she was dead. Mind you, she had this like perfectly seeming life with like a husband, two kids, whatever. She was like a cute blonde. She had been branded in the back by the word like exodus.

She had a hole in her arm. She had holes, wounds everywhere. And then she had told authorities that she was kidnapped by two Mexican women, like Cholas. So shady. That they had beaten her, kept her tied up or whatever, didn't feed her, only fed her black beans. That is so racist, it's so funny.

Right, so there was actually like- They fed me beans and rice and fiascolas and cilantro. So racist that there was actually like- They've been eating beans and rice and fiebolas and cilantro. So racist that there was actually like a community being like we can't let these immigrants in. Like it became like a whole political discussion because of this one cute blonde that went missing, right? Cute, let's use that word loosely.

Oh, she also said that they were listening to mariachi music. That's so funny, dude. This is so funny. There has to be a cop that was listening and was like, this bitch is insane. She's crazy. Two black men, they only ate fried chicken

and all the time, watermelon juice. They listened to rap. Can you please, please, you have to watch this because there's so much comedy in it. And I mean, it was a terrible situation, but anyways, when she was returned, she had been branded. So obviously everyone was like, this 92 pound blonde chick has been branded.

Like they believed her story. And it went on for years before they were able to reveal that it was actually the ex who was like, she just said to do it. So I did it and she didn't even give up the pussy. So James Reyes, is he our new Lord and savior? That doesn't make any sense. Wait, so he didn't, no kissing, no touching.

No kissing, nothing. And he was like, no, I just was like, I'm loyal to her. I mean, let's just say, she ain't even that hot. She look a little dried out, little beef jerky-ish. So it's like, what about her? Can I see her again? Have you guys seen How to get away with murder? The show? The show, yeah.

You know Bonnie, the girl? She kind of looks like her, just not as cute version of her. Look at them teeth on the bottom. You crazy? Horse, please get out of here. So there's no one in your life that you would do absolutely everything for.

That's not my wife? Yeah. Hell fucking no. I can't even cheat because girls are so fucking annoying. Like, I thought about this too. I don't think I could remarry. I think I'm done. That's how I feel too.

But I know that that changes. I've seen people go through that and like, I don't know. I just, I think of like my great aunt who lost a husband and then now she's found someone new. And like I who lost a husband and then now she's found someone new and like I am, it makes me happy that she's found someone new. Very defeatist of both of you. It's only because there's no closure.

Like it's not because she did something wrong to me, it's because she decided to leave, she was just taken from me. So if the new person in my life who, let's say I do have attraction towards her or whatever, she would still have to understand you'll always be second place. Well that's how it works for like my mom, right? So, which I think is very unfair to my stepdad is that my mom still wears her wedding ring and her like

eternity ring. Oh, wow. And he was okay with that. I mean, she's been with my stepdad for over 20 years now and she still refuses to take the rings off. And she just considers my dad like the ultimate companion. Yeah. Like a guy who really just like opened her world, who gave her like, you know, my sister and I and was always very kind and gentle with her because he took her out of like a very abusive relationship. So my German Shepherd will be like your stepdad. Oh, poor Roger. Yes. Poor Roger. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, I think so. And that's something that he has to accept. It's just like, yeah, it's, it is what it is. It's, but I think if you, you do have to give, it's just, it's just different. That kind of love it's not to bring Bobby up, but like, I don't, the way I explain it to like my partner now, it's like that this is an irreplaceable thing. It's so different and so unique and I love him so much. And I don't want to like, it's very different than like the relationship like I have with

you, which is more secure and probably healthier and all of these things. But we were together for 10 years and there's just it's so like special in a way that it can never be replicated. That's so interesting. Every person that I have left, they are dead to me. Really? They are dead. If I saw them in the middle of the street, I'm like, oh shit, you're a ghost, how? And I would just walk by.

By the way, I feel the same way about all my exes, except Bobby. Cause it was a decade. It's just a decade long of friendship, like deep, deep friendship and like genuine love and like trust that like I have a hard time, like not looking at him and being like, Oh, I love what we have. If he disappeared from your life the next day, there would be a part of you that would be missing

for the rest of your life. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Like I love him that much. And even when we like, we haven't seen each other for like a week or so, and then we see each other, it's like we're two excited kids, like can't wait to like, you know, spill the beans about like, what's going on. And I'm like, this is just us and it will never be replicated in any other person or lifetime. If you guys met under different circumstances, you guys just would have been best friends. Yes. I think we were very kindred in that way.

Like, and I, he's one of the few people I can be like my ugly self with. And he is not too judgmental and he can be his ugliest self with me. But it just isn't healthy, romantically not healthy. And I found something that is romantically like sturdy, good for my nervous system. Bobby's not good for my nervous system. But you know, same. He's not good for mine either. I don't think he's good for anybody's nervous system.

He's a lot right. So I think don't think he's good for anybody's nervous system, dude. He's a lot, right? So I think in the German Shepherd sense, I think that Dave will never compare to a German Shepherd and vice versa, right? He's gonna be so insulted by this. He's listening to this podcast right now, like, what the fuck? You're choosing something

that will not even compare to him. Exactly. But not in a bad way, it's just a completely different way. The, no, the German Shepherd will still feel special, will still have a true love, but it will be different. Different, and yeah. They will be different than the German Shepherd.

Like, for instance, like I feel like if God forbid anything happened to Marielle, I don't think you'd go searching for someone like her, because you've already had that, like, beautiful person in your life. I think you would go deviate from that prototype. It's hard to even say, because I can't picture a life without her.

Like, it's so hard. I know, this conversation is making me sad. It's sad. It's just like, I don't know why I've thought about this. I just thought about it like in the last year. It's like something about whatever the, we just had our 10 year anniversary and it was like, oh shit, I don't know what life was like before you.

And I don't know what it would be like after you. And it's like, I never thought about that shit. And sometimes I look at it, I'm like, bitch, you better not die on me. Like, I was like, what the fuck am I gonna do? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know what I would fucking do. And look, there are moments where I wanna get the fuck

away from her and I love it. But, and the macro sense of things, like her being replaced by somebody else, it's like, I can't even process that shit. That's why you'll get a Yorkie poo and you'll be fine. I don't even think, fuck dogs too. I like dogs, right? We have a lot of dogs in our lives,

but it's just like, I've seen other people do it and I can't imagine it. And I've had conversations with them too. And kind of what they went through in that process, it's like they always still love that person, but now this new person is here. I just can't, I don't know if I could do that. I think, cause I've, cause give you an example,

Maryel's grandmother's, her grandpa passed away really early on. She never remarried and she never regretted it. And she was happy just raising like six of her kids by herself and she just couldn't do it. And I think it was because of that. And I pictured myself more like her grandmother. Oh, that's so sweet.

I know. Let's leave on that. Positive. I know we're out of time, which is so sad, but thank you David for being here. Where can people get more of you? Genius Brain podcast, MMA podcast, the Casuals, the Casuals MMA, and then the other podcast

with me and Tim that's Dudes Behind the Foods. It's so good, we love it. You guys, thank you so much for listening, and we'll see you next week with a brand new episode. Bye. Bye. Thank you so much for listening and we'll see you next week with a brand new episode. Bye!