Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Esther Gets Buff

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

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this for real are you guys just a nice way of saying like you look like shit chronically no you look like you just like walked out of a shower that's not okay can i tell you guys the method to my madness perhaps and maybe you'll understand me as a human being much better. Yeah. I have f***ing sensory issues. I don't like tight denim on my body. There's certain types of, like that right there is making me, my mustache sweat come out. Like that material.

I don't like a lot of things that aren't soft on my body. I'd rather f***ing die. You don't have that too? Like, duh. I was brushed as a child. You know, they took me to occupational therapy and they brushed me. My mom would take me and be like, brush her every night. They would brush my skin.

Well, then it worked because you're able to put things on you, right? I don't like things on me. Are you coming out as autistic? No, I've been out as HSB for like years, right? I have to say, I'm not letting you feel special for this. I just think it's funny that she really put no effort in and you just tried really hard to put no effort in. Julie is an FDA approved morning after pill

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Get tickets at estroneis.com I cannot wait to have fun with you guys this summer in this do you have a mom like that too that encourages you to like wear makeup and stuff because i have that you don't that's this is weird my mom was completely um she raised me as a boy yeah when i would put makeup on she'd be like you look like a tart which is so funny in retrospect hilarious but um so she would never in the moment she would never say something you like like put on a better outfit or like you look better. No, but she would tell me the truth. Like if I was like, do I look good in this? She'd say no. I'm like, Oh, I really was just looking for that mommy lie. My mom, like I told you, my mom would like put her hair in like a hat and like go up. But this is our story. I think it's the story of a league of their own. But she'd be like, put her hair in a hat and like go try to play baseball the boys are like scram girl get out of here baseball's for boys like my mom was like such a tomboy i think none of us have the mom lie like none of us have the mom that's gonna be like

no sweetie you're amazing do you the opposite are you kidding me more push-ups bitch like what are you doing why aren't why don't you look like the specimen i am like that's exactly what my mom would say and the worst thing about my mom is she's always just been like a fitness babe, right? But she does this thing where like, I don't know if it's genuine or not, but she doesn't show her body. She goes, it's just for me. And she has ripped. Poor Roger. He's just got to fuck her through a hole.

Like a Jewish lady. No, but she does this thing where it's just like this is just for me and i'm like is it you could afford to show unab or it is like selfish it's like let us have it yeah let me have it apply the pressure we okay speaking of your mom's super fit hot body you know how a couple weeks ago did you get a tattoo of her mom did you get a merit test on you um a couple weeks ago you were saying that you're trying to bulk up and then i was like wait me too and i know it seemed like i was just copying you in the moment but um i wasn't and i have a theory about it i think that because of the rise of ozempic making it easier you know so to

speak like there's a shortcut to losing weight i think that now the trend is going to swing to well then the real like flex is being muscular and i think muscular like i think we're there's a reason we both randomly did they cut your they cut your um prescription wait ester ester's doctor's like there's no more ozempic for her and actually like i think the thing is to's no more ozempic for her and i think the thing is to not be on ozempic i was never on ozempic wait okay and you didn't pay for that check mark esther on creatine doesn't feel right though no i will not be you getting buff is actually so funny you have to do it esther can you please actually you're right get on subs i will actually beat you

up if you don't get buff wait what is that thing that all of these gym girls get on? Just a little bit of this. Because like they say, like, you know, like. Don't act like you don't take it. If the gym girls do it, you do it. What is the name of the thing? If I took it, I can promise you, you guys would be like, oh, my God. It's just because like, you know how steroids work in men differently than they work in women.

So women only really need to take like a time. I just learned this on tiktok so you know like so it just it was taught to me that the reason all of these gym girls are looking shredded as fuck lately and i'm just like i'm working so hard and why don't i look even like a tenth shredded like that and it's because they're taking a small amount of what the men are taking but it works so much better on women to like tone them and shred them that i'm like oh there's a cheat in that world too there's a cheat in this world there's a cheat are their lives happy though are people getting yelled at at home are like the dog are the dogs like the dogs getting screamed at they're not this is what i

mean like i just imagine like the gym is going like fight oh fuck set the fuck down you know what i mean like i can't imagine it's got to come out somewhere well that's what teffy was talking about she's like boiled chicken people aren't happy like the people that bring their own like tupperware boiled chicken and broccoli to a party like that's not a happy life i can't imagine that's a happy life i did that for i was supposed to do like an eight-week program that was that. I did it for four weeks and then cholesterol headaches. I will murder you if you do this. Do you think that's related? No, I mean, I'm always it's just different. Every two years. It's a different thing. So I don't know what it is. But do you think it might have been the boiled chicken this year? But it's a little stressful. Yeah.

It is, what? It's a little painful to have to like count everything. And I didn't like, it was a program where you like, you would like text in what you ate. It's like, I just don't want to like have another person involved.

No, thank you. It's already embarrassing enough that my business manager sees what I spend. That's too vulnerable. It's so weird. Wait, I have- Found for life.

Lately, I will, when I'm scrolling TikTok, like if someone is doing a food thing and it's so weird wait i have found for life lately i will when i'm scrolling tiktok like if someone is doing a food thing and it's about grams weighing any over like over emphasized thought and work into food like that i swipe i don't want to be on that form of tiktok anymore like i don't want to weigh food i get it because i know those people like that's their lifestyle and it is working for them and i think that's cool but i realized for me yeah i that's too much effort and thought into food and then too much obsession i need to just okay like i'll try my best to like just eat a serving some people like thrive in that sort of like military idea of like full discipline all

the time like but i just don't i i realize like i think every time i do get my cholesterol it's around a time where i've been going really hard at exercise or something where it's like harder than is natural for my body yeah it's like you do you whatever works for you whatever brings you joy in this life for me that super regimented lifestyle is not it i become super disordered um i i can't have numbers on my peloton i need to know i'm doing this because it feels good not because i it's like i've always used exercise as a way to punish myself for eating a certain meal i'm i'm done with that i'm done with that i'm still pretty hard on myself today but i'm like i'm the same. Scroll so fast up that whatever macro count.

It's like, I understand what I'm supposed to be doing, but I choose the peaceful route, the kinder route. And the kinder route is just, I don't need to know the numbers. Like, I know how to eat well. So I'm gonna stick to that. Are we soft girlies? What? Not? What do you mean? Like, there's like a soft girl movement on tiktok and i don't

exactly know what it is no like like a soft i'm the soft girl of the group like a soft lifestyle like we're not like barry's boot camp anymore like i do feel like i've grown out we're softer well i get sick it like hurts me i like can't't do it. I just did some deadlifts this morning though. So I don't know how soft I am. I'm pretty heavy. Okay. I think I'm just like a kind to myself girly. Trying to be kind to myself girly.

Okay. But no, I come from a background of like pure military hell. Like that's hard to shut off. So there's still a part of me that's like esther like work harder oh no wait but i do get off when you say that okay i have a question that there's a division in my household about this when you buy new clothes do you wash them before you wear them no you wear them with the tag on four times even even panties you have to wash panties of course but i'm not returning my underwear

i actually am so stressed no because it depends on the garment it's covered in like warehouse debris you think you're cleaner and your detergent's cleaner than warehouse i would take warehouse over something washed by you any day wait you you cut to you wear warehouse perfume um i wash you do wash yeah why do you wear it's bras or if it's bras underwear things that have to stay on my body for a long time, I wash. I don't wash things like a dress from, you know, like a silk dress or something. I won't wash that. Why not?

Well, you have to dry clean it. You have to dry clean it, yeah. Oh, that's why all my silk is not good. Every cashmere sweater I own is this big now. Yeah, dry cleaning is, I have assumed that that was a myth for a long time so yeah once they came out with those like dry cleaning bags when i was in college where you just put your stuff like in the wash in a bag i was like is this oh is that real no i think that's a mark of a real adult right like when you finally get something dry clean yeah because i have yet to

get there but then you have to remember it's there it's like oh god how long has that jacket been there yeah i think the mark of a real adult who's like steaming something like having the handheld steamer in your home like i don't own one i show up wrinkled everywhere and it's like fuck it i like being wrinkled me too yeah it's the truth it is the truth did you know that my mom irons her clothes every morning before she goes to work? Yeah, that's what real adults do. I do that. What is wrong with you?

What? Do you starch your pants? And it does not look that ironed, to be honest. It does. But not that ironed. You could have been a little wrinkled and it would have been the same. You could have had that time to play with your baby. Are you my mommy?

Are you my mommy? Wait, you really iron your clothes every day before work? Yeah. A moment of silence. A hush over the crowd. That is astonishing. Where did you learn that? Is it something that was just told to you that you had to do?

Yeah, I also iron the clothes for my wife. My mom taught me how to iron and I've been ironing. Andrea, call him. What items of clothing do you iron besides just shirts? Yeah, mostly shirts. Also pants that are, you know, not jeans, but like pants that would be the fabric would wrinkle like dressy pants or something. Do you have an ironing board? Yeah.

Is it always out or do you take it out? I take it out. And put it away? Yeah. What a nightmare. I mean. Too many steps. No thanks.

Fancy, is the way I dress basically your worst nightmare? Because everything is always wrinkled and soft. I just always wore color shirts. So then it's like it became, it's difficult to wear is always wrinkled and soft i just always wore color shirts so then it's like it became it's difficult to wear this completely wrinkled if you just wear a t-shirt i feel it's okay yeah but if it has design on it or like it just doesn't really show at least maybe in my head maybe ironers know you know like how many steps it would take for me to iron like i would have to first of all i'd have to find the garage opener. Okay. I'd go find the garage opener. I'd then have to go downstairs to the garage. I'd realize that I

forgot my phone key to the car. So I have to go back up, get that. I'd have to open up. I'd have to find the shirt that's shoved on the ground in a crumple, take it back up. I'd have to take out the ironing board. You get a phone call. That's a 30 minute break. I'd have to put it there. I'd have to wake Todd up to iron it. It would just take so much. And you get a phone call that's a 30 minute break i'd have to put it there i'd have to wake todd up to iron it it would just take so much and you'd probably find like an old costume from like six years ago now you're coming out like fully in it i'm good i'm curious will the slugs tell us one do you even own an iron two do you ever use it like to me when i think about an iron i'm just scared that thing looks you know how to iron though because I was taught somebody one of the movies she saw must have been Home Alone

we we were formally taught how to iron of course I was not we're what yeah who would teach us to iron

parents come on man my parents were doing other shit yeah they're cooler than ironing no offense did they teach you did they teach you how to like

cook like to make a bechamel base? Lila. What is this? Day one? Our parents did not teach us anything. I don't know how to read, Colette. I can't swim or ride a bike.

Wait, we're going to change. I swear. I know I've been saying this for three years on this show, but I'm so sorry. I cannot be friends with someone who doesn't know how to swim. Like, I'm so embarrassed when I even say it out wait so are you saying for three years you're finally not friends with her it's got to change Esther this is the summer this is the summer of Esther swimming I'm so sorry that this I'm not giving you a choice thank god you waited for her to start waxing I seen her in a bikini a couple years ago. Things are... I don't care what the fuck you wear.

I'll throw you in there naked. I don't care, but you are learning how to swim. It's final. Do you think she'll be like an infant where you throw her in and she'll just pop back up? I actually will do it. Her little penis like in the Nirvana. If you both do it, because weirdly, I will say this, I really trust and feel more safe with Annie in the pool than I do with you because I think you are tough and scary.

And Annie knows, Annie really knows how weak and I think what you're saying is absolutely. None of this shit has worked on me. This girl power. No, she's got it. I think that so far, no drownings on my record i can promise you that no ptsd on my record i've never had somebody be like that was so traumatizing kalilah i wish you had gone slower i'm super slow methodical and we go at your pace but you're getting in the water fine thank you she thinks she can manipulate me to not make her go in

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to like take care of bobby i think how do you know that part oh what are you talking about of course i need to take care of bobby what that's a lifelong commitment oh well that but it is i it's i cannot i cannot release them into the wild well annie and i think that you need to so that then you start to miss i do not agree with her no i don't know what she's i've got no sidebar with her she says she's adding me in to less than a blow so that yeah i didn't fucking talk to this bitch you last time you saw me talk to her the last time i talked so that you will then start to miss having someone to care for and annie and i will get the trickle down carings and i am a grown-up you are a grown baby i don't need anyone taking care of me that is you can be new bobby that is what i'm i will crown you new bob i'm aiming for new bobby role

but have i not like you know mothered you? No, you have, you have. But I'm just saying like. Extra mother. I've seen how much you've had to give, how you've given for Bobby. And I'm like, that's all. That's all you want? That's enough. You just want someone hopefully devoted to you?

Well, you're going to have to fight him. Dave's picketing, he's busy. You're going to have to fight him because he's not letting go of those perks. Is Dave like picketing more than everyone else so he has a reason to not take care of him? He's at dusk till dawn. He's a team captain. The first one and the last one. We picketed yesterday together and I was like, oh my God, Dave's taking me.

It's like a date night. It sucked. It's so boring. And I know it's shitty to complain about but like picketing is not fun and i really want this to be over but we're never gonna back down but um yeah dude it's like my feet they're all on radford at like high noon yeah when the sun is just beating down on the concrete like it well they could use a little sun they've been inside eating red vines for the past six years straight i will say this though i've noticed a very the more productive version of picketing is like when people will pick it outside of production because most people who work on a

production are not going to cross a picket line and then they shut down productions and that like helps the actual cause because if they like if people are still shooting things and it's not really affecting the studios whatever i mean i know you're saying if you go to like your co-workers you're like hey bob you really going in yeah that's what works like pressure effective because i don't know if you saw this but there was a shoot and literally like three picketers died oh shoot okay three it only took three picketers to to shut a production down so it's like not that i do think you could be annoying enough to do it for everyone just you everybody go home esther's got it

don't even let me say what i think you could accomplish then you could end the strike with a snap of a finger i wouldn't even need to leave my house um when you know someone's paying like do you order less or more or who's the person oh that's a really good is it my manager my agent we're going lobster okay that's a really good point let's say a family member on lobster i have i actually i'm glad you're asking this because i i will not order as much if i know someone else is paying because i'm embarrassed and so i hate if it's dave's that's different his money is my money and my money is my money um but like yeah because isn't it if you know

someone's paying i'm like scared to order a soda but that's just like the way i was raised because i wasn't allowed to get sodas yeah um i think like if it's a if it's someone that's putting it on a company card and they're writing it off yeah yeah but if it's like someone's like coming out of their wallet and it depends it's like when i go with tim dylan he's like that's his thing is he wants to spend the most money he can yeah and he probably like when i treat people i really feel joy when they order and they like you know to their heart's content so i um but i'm unable to do that if it's someone else's tab like i am like really conscientious and i don't want to be because you're right like like they probably feel the

same joy i feel when when i treat people yeah like when i know i'm treating i'm like let's get this and this and this and that's when i'm like really going all out but i wouldn't be i would just feel embarrassed to do that when's the last time you treated in new york i paid for quite a few dinners with friends and uh are any of them in the room they can confirm uh the skeleton over there obviously didn't order a lot please by the way there's a skeleton with a yankees hat on and I came in and went Esther okay if everything in entertainment ended and it was okay you guys were there's no anxiety about it just to be clear you had so much money it has ended it's over what and writers well that's true no you're right like all like there's

no podcast there's no tv there's no like anything like that okay and that's just how the whole world is and everyone's readjusting but also you were given millions of dollars and enough money to always like be okay so you don't have the anxiety of money what would and you know that you could if you try to get good at anything you get good at it what would you try to get good at that has no you don't need it to entertain people and you don't need it to make you money but could it be a form of entertainment or no it's just like a is it you doing it um and is it just for your own personal joy yeah it's just like what would you fill your days with if you had no obligation? Oh, mine is so easy.

It's so easy. It would be, I would just live underwater. I would dive all day. I would swim all day. Because that is the one place where my head shuts off and I feel very meditative. Did you see Avatar, The Way of Kalilah? Dude, Bobby was just like, for no other reason at all, like watched it for the water stuff. And he was right.

Like I fast forward to the water stuff. I was like, oh my God. I'm like, they all look like Goliath. But that's a really easy thing for me. Like even when I do like EMDR, like my happy place that I have to get back to is always like water related. I don't know. It just feels so nice. You should do an underwater podcast.

Does it scuba tanks it's just like thought bubbles my answer is like kind of lame and basic but because of all the progress i've made over the last five years of like just fixing my body ailments with like physical therapy and like you would go to the doctor no no doctor's appointments all day baby i would really want to like just keep building muscle and like i just can't accept this and i don't mean bulking i don't even mean bulking i just mean like you don't understand for like 30 years i had no ab muscles i just had an image in my head you know who you would look like if you bulked up i don't want to bulk up have you

do you guys know little hercules no yes can you pull him up this is exactly what you would look like if you were to bulk up with boobs no do you think her boobs will go if she bulks up young the young kid on the left god yeah that right there like that not okay on the left oh look at him now he's regular he's living a regular life now come on with a long hair on the left that's that's you esther oh my god look at would she not look like that facially maybe yes this is brand denigration to me here i i would want to get focused on like having a healthy body. I'm so sorry. Did you get a new law term that you're going to use against me?

Are you just waiting? She's a brand denigration. Yeah. And then wait. Have you been meeting with a lawyer? I'm in law school. Remember? a lawyer i'm in law school remember um and then also i would want to learn how to cook like really like feed myself because i've noticed that there's a very meditative experience to cooking and i i

feel so fulfilled by feeding myself right by wait by the the recognizing of like oh i'm not dependent on a restaurant is like very empowering for me and so i know those aren't like exciting or fun but that's the first thing that comes to mind like feed myself really well and like take care of my body because i don't have pain oh No, oh no. Just for yourself. Yes. Just for yourself. Yeah. Would you cook for Dave too or just yourself? I would cook for Dave, but we're eating what I make.

But you and Dave too are good. Dave, are you watching? We're eating what I make. You don't get to choose. Is this my camera? I always look at this one. Wait, what about you? I would probably just do artwork.

Like what? There's so many things I never did. I never have tried really oil painting I've never tried I've really only painted with like acrylic or anything but I never do it because I realized I was trying to think of like why do I not draw more and it's because I've somehow attached it to like entertaining with it and monetary stuff you are so good too and yeah you're genuinely but I could be really good if I practice. I only draw like once every three years. So.

I told you it was with Benji I came up with that one, right? Yeah. That makes sense. Benji was like, I was hanging out with Benji Aflalo and we were supposed to be writing jokes and I just got this idea to draw the Danny DeVito thing. And he was like, stop drawing. You're never going to make any money off of that. And like two hours later, I made my most profitable thing I've ever done in my entire life not surprised that's what's good about benji you gotta not

wait there are people like that i think they're just as valuable because it's like whatever that person says do the opposite and it works well whenever i listen to like do you guys ever listen to abraham hicks or any of that sort of stuff there's like this this theory of like every time you're like if you're negative or you're or something bad happens it's actually not bad because it's reminding you of what you don't want which is now showing you what you do want it's actually putting out like positive manifestation vibes too because on the other end of it and if there's something you really really want to do um my new life hack is to not share it with anyone because like it kind of serves as like internal fuel it's like your own little secret kind of dream that you keep and i find

that the moment i announce it i've gotten the dopamine hit i've released it and i am not going to follow through with that plan anymore because i've already shared my dreams but if i keep it to myself i'm like oh this is exciting yeah you're like excited to show off the end result the end result yeah but I never usually I won't get to the end result if I'm just talking and kind of already getting the dopamine hit either or the disappointment when someone says I don't like that idea oh so like both ways is not good for me I would rather have my old manager wait i um recently came across something i don't know if it's from you esther but basically there are men out there that are looking for a very specific type of lazy girl have you heard about

this wait okay let me pull this post i found because it's like i think it's been circulating and i'm kind of like i'm so intrigued by it because i'm like could that be me i think it's all of us a lazy girl but like lazy is obviously a myth right but he wants a specific type okay just there's a post circulate i think it'd be healthy for you to have someone that just wants you to but i don't know what this is yet you might be right annie actually i think annie already has not been very lazy girl at all so this someone sent me this they found it on reddit and it says i adore lazy women i have this fetish where I prefer a woman who does nothing all day. Video games or TV or just napping all day sounds super hot. I want to be the one working long hours to

pay for them to be lazy all day. Then I want to get home and be told to cook and clean while she continues to be lazy and do nothing. I have this fascination with lazy women like I just want to enable all the bad habits. Ideally a stoner,oner drinker and or smoker is this attainable has anyone ever heard of this but here's the thing yeah is she supposed to be hot and fit too you know what i mean like you can find that woman she's 600 pounds she's on tlc right now wait a second you're right annie because it's like does he just want a little sex doll then to just fuck when he wants to fuck but then wants to kind of just watch and like i don't know what that is like she this person or is she also cruel is she just like is she showing him attention like what is what is the deal yeah and now it's reminding me. I don't know if you guys saw John Mayer on Call Her Daddy, but he said that he wants a woman who is more who like will just sit in his house and like chill.

And he basically described a pet cat. And now I'm like, is that what this is, too? It's I like that part where it's like, I don't want to have to feel like I need permission to nap or lounge or have a super just relaxing day. I'm not even going to say lazy because I think we all deserve just super relaxing days. I like that part. But if you're going to force me to do nothing, that's a little fucking excessive. Like, that's crazy. That feels like a prison.

It seems kind of like a fetishy, like it would be fun for a couple weeks, you know, to be the lazy girl. Laying around sucks. Like like you ever break your leg like it's yeah at the end of it you're like oh god force if you're forced to lay around it's just like yeah i just can't imagine choosing laying every day ever that my favorite hobby i i swear to you guys when i get out of the shower in the morning, I sit and I just dissociate. I lay and I just dissociate. Yeah, but you also do like a thousand push-ups. After.

So for you to play lazy girl is very weird. Should you be John Mayer's cat? I'm going to scratch the fuck out of this ball sack. Did you ever, were you ever on dating apps? Why do I picture you of never having been on them? I was on them for a very brief. Okay. Horrific. I went on three dates and they were memorable. You guys. I can't believe that's what people do now. No. It's so weird. It's grim. it's well it's grim haven't we sort of proved that like by now the research shows that that's like what's ruining our culture is that like people have too many options and well it's like netflix right yeah you're like there's too many things to watch it feels like there's nothing to watch and yeah and i know you're single and i don't know if this is like triggering whatever

but what is your opinion of it i go out into wild. The last two boys that I dated were out from the wild. I just feel like it's... Except I met a girl. I only turned my hinge on for girls. And I swear to you guys, like, I've never... She is the hottest girl, like, I think I've ever seen. But when you met her, it wasn't a vibe, right? Isn't that what you said?

I don't know if there's just no vibe or it's because i'm just not like you think i'm sorry unfortunately i think she's fluid i'll accept whatever diagnosis but if you don't eat each other out oh my pussy is in its really really perfect state right now explain it's like a couple days after my periods ended and the smell is intoxicating it's the most perfect pussy scent ever it's kind of right before ovulation it's not as goopy but it's like oh so good you guys like i will do this all day it smells so fucking good yeah but it's your own so good you guys like i will do this all day it smells so fucking good yeah but it's your own brand you need someone else to tell you call one of your 20 boyfriends and ask them they're all on speed dial waiting for goliath

to call they're like asleep like hello babe but like don't do you think that dating apps are like this whole like myth that like people they made us think that that's how it should be and then they're actually so wrong because you need to like have eye contact and like meet the person i think it's so weird like for me and i i only went on these three dates it was like very um it's like there's so many layers of disappointment involved or potential disappointment I guess if you meet someone and it's a vibe that never happened for me but I think like you see a person you're not supposed to see a person you're not supposed to have all these components like you see them and then you also have like emails with them basically and you don't smell them

make eye contact with them see what they look like in public like you're supposed to see what someone looks like and feel if and feel if there's a vibe or something and then but so what happens is i'll like see this guy online i'll create who i think he is from his profile so i create this character i get like really into this character right and i'll go real like far into the story. I'm like, okay, here he is. Music producer. Okay.

All right. He loves hip hop. I'm like, ooh, he loves hip hop. This is so cool. I'm like, oh, I bet he wears like a nice like flatbomb hat with a little hoodie over it. So you assume his wardrobe. I start. Yeah. Like, cause you know, you see like what, like four pictures or whatever.

And I'm like, okay, I can kind of like, I can use my own own i can put what i want him to be in there and kind of like mix it up and then you meet the person and they're nothing like it they're into classical music they're eating dry cashews as their snack which for some reason is the least hot thing that could possibly happen well it's like when they said they were a biker was bicycles um they like wear their helmet you know what i mean it's like i'm when i'm online i'm looking for a guy that's brave enough to get that head injury okay i think i i always love the you go ahead go ahead no but no but i was just saying so then like when i meet this person not only they're not a vibe for me anyway and they never were going to be there's like a funeral i have to have for this person i thought that they were so i created this character and i have to now kill this person that never existed who i like was totally vibing with do you know what i mean yes versus the opposite

which is my last experience of dating somebody it was like the first time i met him like i didn't even clock him as like a track just nothing there was no feeling in my body about anything because that's usually how it is when you meet someone in the wild right they're just like oh okay like he's just a guy yeah and then you learn about them slowly like oh like you're an artist oh you actually ride motorcycles oh you build motorcycle engines oh you surf oh you're a sculptor Oh, you actually ride motorcycles. Oh, you build motorcycle engines. Oh, you surf. Oh, you're a sculptor. Oh, like all of these things start to build.

So you start from this thing. And like it's the opposite of what Annie is talking about because then it builds that kind of like, no shit. That's amazing. And then you start to feel that like you're impressed with, you know, like they just like leave all that room to be surprised and impressed by somebody. Yeah. Versus online dating because everything's already out there. You know, you need everything you need to know. You're getting things backwards.

You're getting the hobbies first. Yeah. You're getting like the way they stand. Yeah. Like there's things that matter. There's nothing to be like. There are no surprises anymore. Like even if you look at my dating profile, you'll be like, be like oh she likes the water like that's not something he needed to find

out about me like oh she free dives like i know all of her hobbies already and it would be so much more magical i'm sure like to be in person and hear that from you and discover it there and if they already know all your hobbies all we have left to tell them is our rape stories better order quick get those apps out on the table but i mean even that's out there if they were to like search like one podcast episode i know it is weird like to date when you're a public figure too where it's like especially on a podcast where it's like there's so much there's so much interpersonal stuff going on or what do they call it parasocial parasocial yeah social after years of fine print

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Before? Any showering will. Well, it wasn't a shower. It was a bath. We'll take the shower. But honestly, I will understand. I do understand why you wouldn't bathe that much because bathing is such a thing. It's a production.

A shower's quick. Yes. A bath is like. But I cannot choose to stand when the option to sit is right there. Yeah, a bath is basically a wheelchair shower. Okay, so this morning in Pilates, my teacher was like, and I love the studio, I love all those people, but she said something that I thought was really strange.

She said, oh, I'm so glad that a certain client isn't here today because they're in this band of this song. And she was like, I wouldn't want to play it in front of them. And I was like, in my head, I'm like, that's so weird. Like, so then you're like putting extra thought into not playing a certain song. So that like. No, can I just break this down? She was name dropping.

She was name dropping. Yeah. That's all. She's just bragging that somebody famous takes her class which i'm a pro name dropper i'm like yes i'm like definitely name drop that's awesome what was the band i had no idea wait you didn't that's why it just didn't impress you that's where you're like what the hell is this were you like why isn't she playing like old episodes of alone together that's what i was like please play my my anything like but i thought it was weird

because it kind of made me think of this phenomenon that's like new in the last 10 years or whatever of like when you meet someone and you know them from you know online or maybe you know their work or whatever i think it used to be like well how do i act like it but i think now we know to be like how do i act like it but i think now we know to be like oh i know your stuff like right isn't it it's just normal i don't i just don't live in a world anymore where i can like pretend i don't know or like oh i i wouldn't dare play their song in front of them it's like no that's cool that's but don't you think it would be weird if you were like working out and then your song came that is weird you're like trying to focus on the thing and then your own voice comes on well why is that weird you're an artist but the instructor is the one that made the

playlist so they're a fan of your work why is that bad because now they're putting you like okay so here's the thing i i am i do usually very much geek out when i know someone but i also take a vibe like if it's something that's going to like take from what's happening for them in that moment. I don't really do that. Like I don't want to like if it's too much like if someone's like in the middle of a conversation and I come in like I'm not going to go like I know you from the not that I'm saying you do. But it's like if they're in a class. But her bringing it up is funny. but her bringing it up is funny okay they're not there well how about this hilarious let's say yeah that's and he's right like very simply like that was just her bragging about having a famous which brag guys brag how about this you're throwing a party you made a playlist and it's a bigger party and so there's like friends of friends there and someone whose song is on one of your playlists is at the house are you gonna go upstairs or whatever grab your ipod in this world you have an ipod um that's the last time people came over to hang last time i played a playlist the ipod was upstairs in my room um are you gonna

go up there and remove the song from the playlist because you're like embarrassed or you're gonna go up there and just listen to it by yourself no seriously like are you gonna or are you gonna be like who cares they're here they're i like their music are you embarrassed that you like their music no i'm tactless so i'm a tacky bitch i just i have a question for you guys if you meet fans outside of the well when you're performing you're expecting to have fans fans there coming to you as for pictures. But if you are in your regular life and you have those people. Do I see people looking at me and go, it's me? What type of fan do you like?

The one who is like intrusive and like, you know, the hardcore fans or like people who are like, oh, you know, you know, they know you, but that's it. A little nod. Or do you like that people come, you know, you know they know you, but that's it, a little nod? Or do you like that people come, you know, invade your space? Well, it depends on if they're, like, invading it. Like, I do love, I love when people recognize me. I think it's so awesome. I cannot pretend like I don't love that. I love it.

I think it's, and they're always like, oh, sorry, I didn't want to ask for, like, a picture. I'm like, always ask for a picture. Like, I don't even care if I look like shit. Like, I think it's so sweet. It's so exciting. I'm glad that, like, my work is connecting with people it's like really exciting i love it if if i'm in a conversation someone comes up says they're a fan

i'm like oh my god thank you and we have like our moment and then they keep talking and i'm like hearing what's happening over here in this conversation that i was really enjoying i'll go like there was someone that did that to me it was at the comedy store so it wasn't like that crazy but there was a woman that would not go away. She would not go away. And I had to say to her, the gossip that's happening without me right now is killing me. Like it's killing me right now that what's being talked about and I'm not included in. So I was like, so I'm going to need to end this here.

Thank you so much. But see, if I was your fan in that moment, I'd be like, OK, let's go to the gossip together. Like you're just torturing me by telling me. But she, so then she came back and tried to do it again. And that's when it becomes like that person has a personality disorder. So if they're cool, they, people know their boundaries. Like people, like regular people know their boundaries. And I think we have like collected a very good, cool audience.

I haven't had too many weirdos. Yeah. I think occasionally I, i feel the same way i i love when people say hi i yeah it makes it makes me so happy to meet them in the wild i don't care what i'm doing i'm just like happy they're even coming and saying hello like it means a lot to me um but what annie's saying like um sometimes there have been times like either after like bobby shows or like even after like one of there have been times, like, either after, like, Bobby shows or, like, even after, like, one of your shows, if someone's, like, belligerent and drunk and trying to, like, not and they get a little handsy, like, that's, like, a big no for me. Then I'm, like, okay, dude.

Yeah, totally. But that actually happens, like, a lot. Some guy pulled Todd aside. He didn't say anything to me. He pulled, he's, like, can I talk to you? And I watched it happen. I was, like, oh, my God, my boyfriend's like that's stabbed by some guy but he like pulled him aside and he he pulls out a hundred dollars he goes I want to give you a hundred dollars and Todd's like why and he goes I always said if I ever saw Annie I'd give her a hundred dollars for

all the entertainment she gave me but I don't want to bother so I'm going to give it to you and Todd didn't take it obviously but I was like Todd you owe me a hundred dollars but that was like so funny and weird it was like such a weird thing that could have been so bad for me but the fact that he went to todd made it like just funny and like i had like a perfect a perfect interaction was i was out to dinner it was me dave dave's mom and dave's sister so it's like the perfect time i know it's beautiful a girl just walked up to the table and was like i just want to say like i love your tiktoks keep doing what you're doing and then walked in i was like that was so perfect like because also to give a little encouragement is nice and it was quick and it was in front of like that was the dream i know it is funny there

was like they're always like just keep going you're almost there like where am i going don't give up i know they're like look it looks like you're about this could be the last one every time yeah i know when we were in atlantic city with todd's parents i just knew it was like we were getting our car i was like it's gonna happen it always happens like i'm always like it's always the perfect time it's always when people are around when i was in costa rica on my breathwork thing. I got recognized. That was fucking cool. You know what? The greatest feeling ever was being recognized when I was in a small island in the Philippines, like in my home.

Yeah. I always imagine like podcasting is just like a big, you know, American thing. Right. But someone's like, wait, like as I was going through this tiny little alley to go to this tiny little beach. And this island is like you guys, like not a lot of people. And it was a Filipino guy. It wasn't some American or some foreigner who like you can maybe like assume like, oh, they listen to just podcasts when they travel. No, this is a Filipino guy that lives there.

And he was like, wait, Kalilah, I was like, wait, what? What if it was like one of your brothers? He's like, I banged you. I'm your brother. There's a third of, there's another one. That one felt really like actually yeah no it is like it's cool especially because like your your own people are like proud of you they're like no like i love that you're doing this i'm like oh my god but i'm like tacky braggy like name droppy too

so it's like if someone does that to me and no and people have just like walked into there i'm like wait here for one second guys come back here for a sec you tell them what you just said i ain't above it no that's of course whenever anyone like at the comedy start if they're like oh my god you're my favorite i'll get polly sure i'm like polly i'm like emily i totally forgot i've blocked this one out but one night in new york me and dave were getting frozen yogurt and we walk out and this really young cool guy goes he walks up to Dave he goes oh my god aren't you a very famous actor and Dave just goes like no and keeps walking and I was like

well he's on the show love and the kid's like yeah and then like I was like I'm a comedian and he like did not even hear me did not even care you're like I jumped in a pool and then you jump in a pool yeah oh my god wait no I didn't jump in a pool someone tried to get me too and oh my god they wrote that for you it's a documentary and and um yeah it was just so funny that dave got recognized as a very famous actor dave's like i'm like dave you should have told him you're in love he's like i'm not a very famous actor i'm like, Dave, you should have told him you're in love. He's like, I'm not a very famous actor. I'm like, but the kid is confused. Like, yeah. That's so funny to say it like that, too.

Okay. So recently it's been brought up to me that men often feel the burden of getting hard. And this was the context was what was the context oh we were like you know when it when men um look at idealized photos of women you know they're they can become less attracted to their partners but it's not the same is not the truth for women women can look at like attractive dudes and still feel attracted to their partner but then the dudes the way they um kind of defend themselves in this situation it's like no like we have to look at more images um than girls do because we get stimulated visually and we have the burden of actually getting an erection like like kind of like they have to show proof of like that's

how it makes sense no that's their that's the defense you guys i'm just saying like they're like so there are men out there who feel kind of pressured by the the burden of an erection okay then stop looking at like porn stop desensitizing yourself and stop jerking off too tight and stop like looking at hot girls on Instagram. They're doing it to themselves. That's like me saying, I ate too much ice cream sundaes. And so I can't eat one. I can't have my dinner.

It's like, that's my fault. That's my fault. That's actually really good. That's not mommy's fault. Is that what you play? mommy son right no i agree with you i think it's like so yeah why are you you have you have to look at all these other girls it's like you don't have to do shit what do you what is your no i i think i agree it's like if if it feels like there's a burden for an erection you're

maybe overstimulated like maybe you need to fucking scale back they got meds for that too take a fucking a bc we're not saying you know you're right there is you're right there is no more burden there's everything to support male erections yeah but hold on how do we feel about a man needing to take a pill to get hard for us? Well, if that's what's happening, that's what's happening. It's the truth. Okay. What are we going to do? Yell at him?

Get hard! How do you genuinely feel, though, when he goes soft on you midway? I go, he must be having some emotional problems because it ain't me you better handle yourself wow you're so healthy annie like i told i i for the longest time i would take it like personally like when i was younger not anymore yeah i know it's like yeah you're like when you're just like banging to please them anyway. Yeah. Esther, no one's gone soft midway. I think that's happened. And that is very tragic feeling when it happens.

What do you say? How do you comfort them in that moment? You're like, it's all like, this is my script. My script is someone, you know, I can see that they're feeling they were very hard. And sometimes they like edge a little bit too much so now they can't like get it back whatever whatever it is they're laughing because they know exactly what i'm talking about oh my god because you try to delay the calm and sometimes when you do that too much you cannot kind of keep it as hard anymore or you right this is hr well that's happened to me and and i what what do i say okay so sometimes the nipple

clamps on them are too hard i guess the duct tape around them is hard i say like hey let's just make out let's just like hang and also it's like for a second if something is like mentally happening to them right it's like if it's someone you know like i've been in situations where it's like you're you don't want to like bug them either because they're having like a thing it's like their issue or whatever so sometimes i'm you know it's like we can just like do it later or whatever it's not a big deal but what do you say in that moment though all right i'm trying to think because there was a thing with a guy. I'm like, no. If this is ever a problem, I'm making a checklist.

Did you watch porn? You need to stop checking out. In the moment, Esther, his dick is going soft, and you're giving him a checklist. Pack your bags. She opens her side drawer. She pulls out the list she's already written. She goes, check off the ones that are applicable.

Yes, you fill out this form, and we'll have a conversation afterwards. What do you guys, like, what would you like to hear in that moment where you're like, fuck, like, I really do want to have, like, I'm attracted to this person, but my dick's not cooperating. Like, what's a nice thing to hear from a girl? Like, so married. Look how married these girls are. Like, girls. New dad, dad married not only i'm married i'm i was i mean you guys have opened up uh my sensitivity but i was you know raised very catholic and in

not i mean i went to a non-school until was 14. So like this topic is never, you know, has always been more like a private thing. Like you, since I met you, and we're obviously Bobby and Andrew and talking about it so publicly, like I think it's very healthy, but it's like, I have trouble. You don't have to, yeah.

Wait, you sound like Dave. I totally, I just want to support you in this moment that Dave thinks it's absolutely insane the way we talk. So you're not like alone. Right. I do want to say, though, if you fill out my checklist and I find that you're not guilty, I will help you. Then, you know, if this is not your fault, then this is a safe space.

What if you can't help them? We'll cross that bridge when we get there. But if you are abusing yourself and it's your fault, and it's not just natural aging or... What if they blame you for using the cheese grater on the floor? My teeth? But what happens if it's the opposite?

Meaning like if you guys, for whatever reason, you also could be in the middle of it and be uninterested. Well, we're used to that. Yeah, that's power through. And then we just like get it over with. And I'll say something when I want him to just come so fast.

I'm like, come inside me. And then, boop, it's done. And then I'm like, oh, thank God. You know, I couldn't have lasted 30 seconds longer. I didn't want 30 seconds more of that. It's just like there are things that we do to just kind of like get them there faster. So we just we're done. But thankfully, I haven't had to do that in a long time because like I actually like sex with people now. But I am learning fancy to kind of tone it down a bit and speak in a more

generalized way because I've just been so trained to specifically talk about Bobby and all like the very like, you know, like the details that we would go into. I just can't do that anymore with a partner. I'll never find another partner. Not that I'm seeking. I'm fully OK being alone, but just like I have to relearn. Do you think she was about to cry just then? No.

I misread and then you were totally fine. Your voice quivered, but it wasn't that and i was and i was completely okay i just but i do think it is remarkable like the person you were with not only was like so open but like didn't doesn't listen to this show so you could just say anything and that is such a luxury and it's it makes you a great podcaster. Like the freedom. Does Dave listen to the show because he wants to make sure you didn't say anything bad? Or does he like it? I think he doesn't listen all the time.

But I think he sometimes listens for both of those reasons. Yeah. He also has like his own career. There are people that think that anonymity is like virginity. you know, you only lose it once and then that's it. Yeah, I didn't value my virginity either, though. So what would your anal virginity be if it's about anonymity? When people tell whether you do anal or not? Oh, fancy.

I might be a helicopter parent. Explain. So when I have to leave my children, my dogs, my pets, when I leave town, I leave a fucking Bible for my pet sitter with pictures and like pages and pages and pages of instruction about the tiny little things like Remy likes this. Please don't pick him up when he's fully like insane detail. And I'm like, oh, like I'm going to be an insane parent. I think if I do this with my dogs.

I think that you do this with your dogs and would not be like that with human children. be like that with human children and i am rejecting because i do still think that all of us will never love our human children as much as we love our dog human children and so i don't think you have to worry but i i love that you're that detailed and if i was your pet sitter i which i hope soon one day to be i would love that much detail we will fucking rip you to shreds. Hidden camera, please have a hidden camera. There better be a ring camera. Do you remember when your dog attacked you when we were doing a masturbation? What is the funniest thing that's ever happened in our entire friendship?

Pepper just attacked. I was like, can you knight a dog? Pepper is so bad. I think the way you are with Jules will be the way you are as a parent i do ask her that i always get like an end of year assessment how was i as like a person in your life like things i could improve on really i don't want to scar her. I'm so afraid of, like, not doing right by her.

I understand now why you thought I was crying. I'm just congested. It was just a moment where I was like, oh my God, I didn't think you were going to be this, like, emotional about the thing you were... I don't remember what you were talking about. But I was like...

I wasn't sure if I was the only one that was, like, gearing up. I think it was, like, anal virginity. No, but I... I'm so scared of fucking her up so I think helicopter parenting is totally yeah I'm just trying to think of like of course it's like your dog and your dog can't speak they can't tell anyone what they want what they need what they think but you know because you've lived with them I'm just trying to think of like with parenting what I don't know what the right type of parenting would be with kids but I think the number one thing with jules that i'm most afraid of is that like like i never want her to feel like she's walking on eggshells because i

walked on eggshells my whole life kneeled on them too true and rock salt like i never knew like what version of my mom i was gonna get that day was i gonna get a kind mom was i gonna get an angry mom and i was really afraid of that so like the one thing I always ask her is like am I consistent in my moods do I take things out on you when it's like undeserved and so those are the things like I'm just hyper like aware of because I don't want to do that to her yeah I had an ex-boyfriend that was like his mom was had some personality disorders but, so when he would get like hit, he would get hit for like no reason out of nowhere. So he was fucking crazy.

Like, I mean, he was like so erratic because there was never like a, not that you should beat your kids, but it wasn't like a discipline beating. It was like, she'd just be pissed about something. Yeah, and that's how you build. That had nothing to do with what was happening. That's also how you build empaths, right empaths aren't born they're made because you

have a kid in a very like inconsistent environment so they have to almost like keep track of the tiniest little shifts in people so because there's an implication to their safety this she did this thing with this eye. And I think a bad mood is right around the corner. And I'm going to pay the price. She's going to come after me. So I'm going to clock this. So you become so fucking aware of every little thing. And it terrifies you.

And I think that's why people are like, oh, being an empath is so great. I'm like, no, that was a sad journey to get there. It was a very terrifying journey to get there. it has a bad origin story it really does and it's i think it's a superpower but it can also be a curse because then you read into things that maybe like don't need to be you know read into yeah but um i know like someone if someone does like the smallest little thing and then you internalize it and you're like that meant this and Dave will always say to me like you can't read people's minds. Like why are you thinking that that little thing like you can't read anyone's mind. So stop.

Don't try. I got to say about all that like my parent my dad was so angry when I was a kid and so like verbally abusive and so just really, really, really had anger management problems. But he did so much work on himself. And it's like so cool to have been able to like have this whole life with my parents where they've like evolved out of these things. We've been able to like talk things out and stuff. like evolved out of these things we've been able to like talk things out and stuff that it's weird when i get when that core wound gets triggered again it's so weird because i'm like i've already healed it with the person that it started with it's weird that that's still there do you know what i mean yeah it's like you'd think that would just like go it doesn't it really doesn't and if

you think about like how like the stages of wound healing, like in real life, like when you get a cut or, you know, like a deeper wound, say like it almost feels like oh god like it's i can't tell if it's getting better or if it's just um like opening up or becoming more infected like i can't tell sometimes that's what i always say when i'm cleaning my room i'm like it's gonna get worse before it gets better you know i gotta put everything out on the floor and yeah anyway wow wait really bulky if you were if you were tan i think you would look so ripped right now well i will never be tan because that's not good for you to get sun annie you don't get itchy from spray tans are you saying that because you see me just itching non-stop i've literally been going in every hole of my pants to say to someone i'm literally like in my going to my pussy to itch my leg hey you don't get itchy do you as i've been itching wait no i don't think that's what's making me itch i think it's because i got i honestly think

it's my waxing that is making me itch i'm on like the third week since i wax oh because you act like growing back and now it's. I cannot do spray tans because I just there's that period or like a couple of days after which is so dry and itchy. You also were born naturally with like kind of not to be racist, a spray tan. The Lord spray tan. No, but in the, you know. In the thick of the winter sometimes i'm like oof don't we can't no but at least that i know you're not olive my sister is olive i think i'm like right underneath olive she's a little olive and it depends because i think i'm pale olive oh olive no or am i yellow i'm not yellow you not yellow. You're not jaundiced, no.

Like, are we the same? No. We're talking about, like, makeup, right? I'm white. Like, you're pale, but I'm white. I have spray. I can't. We can't do this. You have a spray tan right now?

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