Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Exes in Texas (Esther’s Version) - Ep 154

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

Thank you to our sponsors: BetterHelp - Become your own soulmate, whether you’re looking for one or not. Visit betterhelp.com/trashtuesday today to get 10% off your first month. Trash Tuesday LIVE in Los Angeles! February 13, 2024. Get tickets at: https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/09005F85033B7EE2 Esther’s new movie: Drugstore June!  https://www.drugstorejune.com/ See Esther on tour. Check out dates at estheronice.com See Annie on tour. Check out dates at https://www.annielederman.com/shows 00:00 - Ex Retaliation? 00:42 - Annie Tour Dates 01:16 - Drugstore June Presale Tickets/Esther Tour Dates 02:15 - Live Show Announcement 03:22 - I Like it When Sh*tty People Have Small Penises 04:16 - I Saw My Exes This Weekend 07:56 - The Ones That Count 11:21 - Friends With Exes? 13:14 - A Friend Breakup 17:32 - I’m Her Now: In Austin With Bobby and the Crew 20:08 - Coming Around on Circumcision? 22:40 - Trauma From Early Childhood 23:37 - Cultivating the Best Green Room Hangs 27:40 - The Keys to Longevity 28:56 - Stone-Faced Mom 31:45 - Parent/Child Relationships: Opportunities for Intimacy and Teaching 37:55 - You Need Hardships 40:07 - Eat It While It’s Hot! 42:58 - Etiquette 47:05 - Sweaty EMDR Therapy 48:23 - Roast Beefy/We Eat Past Full, We Eat For Taste 50:50 - Pregnancy Hunger Cravings 54:02 - Roast Beef Guy Ate My Fish 55:08 - Hanging Out in Santa Fe Leads to Better Posture 57:28 - Airplane Seat Responsibility 59:05 - High School Superlatives 65:10 - Wrap-up   Subscribe! https://bit.ly/HitOurButtonsOfficial Clips Channel: https://bit.ly/2QDAi8X Trash Tuesday Podcast iTunes Audio Feed: https://bit.ly/TrashTuesdayPodTrash Tuesday Podcast Spotify Audio Feed: https://bit.ly/TTPodAudioTrash Tuesday Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itstrashtuesday     Listen to our other Podcasts: TigerBelly - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tigerbelly/id1041201977 Rick and Esther Have a Time - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rick-and-esther-have-a-time/id1694264079 AnnieWood - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/anniewood/id1653515392   Follow Us: Khalyla Kuhn - https://www.instagram.com/khalamityk Annie Lederman - https://www.instagram.com/annielederman Esther Povitsky - https://www.instagram.com/esthermonster Theme Song Written by: Bobby Lee http://instagram.com/bobbyleelive Banana Break Song by: Can Nguyen  🍬  https://www.candyedits.com     Produced by: Real Good Touring & Ten42 Podcast Producer(s): Stella Young & Julien Bensimhon   This Video Contains Paid Advertising

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I don't know what is wrong with my website. I'll also be in Vancouver. And then in March, I'll be in Fort Worth, Texas. I'll be in Albuquerque, New Mexico, which I can't wait to go to, Washington, D.C. And then I reschedule Jacksonville for the end of June. Go to AnnieLetterman.com slash shows. Can't wait to see you. Hi, slugs. I have the most exciting news ever. Tickets for Drugstore June are on sale now for Los Angeles and New York. We are playing in select theaters only in those two cities starting February 23rd. We really want to sell those out. So you can get pre-sale tickets at drugstorejune.com.

And thank you so much to everyone who's already been supporting the film. I can't wait for you to see all the cameos that are not in the trailer. And I don't want anyone to spoil it for you. And then we'll be opening, expanding nationwide March 1st. But New York and LA, get your tickets now at drugstorejune.com. And then this Friday, this very Friday, I will be in Portland. That's right. We had to reschedule because you guys had

an ice storm and you kept messaging me is the ice storm gonna affect the show I was like I know we don't have ice storms we do and they're in Portland Friday February 2nd I will see you guys at the Aladdin Theater get tickets at estheronice.com sluggy sluggies we're so excited we're doing our second live show. We had so much fun at the last Trash Tuesday Live. It was, I mean, the Lord wants us to have a live show. I know. The Lord hands us everything. We're going to be in Los Angeles at the Regent Theater, February 13th. Get your tickets at the link below. We have a lot of fun stuff planned and we cannot wait to see you guys. And we can't wait for you to show up with your interesting lives that will take the show in very crazy places. Like if you weren't there last time, you blew it. I don't want to be too

shameful, but like you really blew it and it was like unmatched, uncrazy, but this one is going to be even better. We also have a VIP option where we just sit with you literally face-to-face and we just answer any question you have. And it's so cute. It's so intimate. At Regent Theater, January 13th. February 13th. I'm sorry.

Regent Theater, Feb 13th, the day before Valentine's. It's going to be one year from last week. No, it's in two weeks. Don't listen to these fools. We'll see you guys there. I know. Benji listen to these fools. We'll see you guys there. I know. Benji loves to talk about that. How little my penis would be if I was a guy.

But is his big? It's actually huge. Oh, that makes a lot of sense. That explains the personality. I hate when people, I don't want to have, I don't, I like it when shitty people have small penises. It makes me sad when shitty people have small penises. It makes me sad when shitty people have big penises. It makes me sad when shitty people have a small penis because then you know that's why they're shitty.

But there's a reason then. When people come in just already fully stacked and then they are terrible to the world. I've never met a big penis attached to a man that I go, this is a great man. I really haven't. Hot take. I've had monsters with monster c**ts and I've had like painfully nice loser guys with big, you know what I mean?

Where their energy just sucked and they didn't know how to own. There was never like a medium ground birth. Really? You just need a regular size penis. Speaking of big penises, I saw my ex this weekend. My exes. I'm so excited to talk to you guys about this. So I went to Austin. I had the most healing trip of my life. That's right. I spent quality time with two ex-boyfriends and it was like incredible. you go into a 3.1 million dollar condo no i didn't go i did not go to his place no i was so i went to i feel like as a pregnant woman this would be the safest time to go to an ex's home that's when they want to have sex with you the most i would think because then they know they can't get you pregnant oh that is true it's not safe no everything like okay so um it probably the episode probably came out last night, but I did kill Tony, which,

so I saw Tony in Redman, who for years I've been seeing, like, people will send me on Reddit, Esther f***ed Tony, Esther f***ed Redman. And I'm like, yeah, they were my boyfriends for a year. Of course I did. And it was just so. It makes it sound like you had, like, a Kalilah relationship with them where they were your boyfriends at the same time. No, no, no no i love how we call it a kalilah relationship but that's not out of the three of us out of the three of us not at the same time but i saw them

and it was like okay it was there's just something healing about it like we all we talked so much about our past together and like they have gotten so colossally successful. It's wild, yeah. If you don't know, my two exes started after, literally right after we all broke up at different times. They started a podcast together. And it's, like, one of the biggest. Like, in the last six to eight months, it has become ginormous. It used to be called Kill Esther, but then they forgave her.

They sold out two Madison Square Gardens. And it's also really nice to know that now that they're both so rich and I'm still like, I'm really glad with whose semen is inside of me. Well, now you can kind of own the relationships more now that they're doing so well. What do you mean own them more now? Well, now you can be like, you don't have to be like, we're not going to talk about this right now. No've always been like I've always had it's always been positive but I feel like it's the most positive now I think as I hadn't seen them in so long and I'm pregnant and it was just really fun to like see how successful they've become and I feel so proud of them like I talked about this a little bit on Kill Tony, but like when I met Tony, he was cashing his

checks at a check cashing place. And when I found that out. He was working there. He was cashing checks for everyone. When I found that out, I like, I went full Karen because he was paying like a high percentage of every check just to a check cashing place. I freaked out. I took him to Chase Bank.

I go, Tony, why don't you have a bank account? He's like, they won't give me an account. Banks were denying him a bank account. I walked him into Chase Bank. I'm like, you give this man an account. And they're fighting me. They're telling me no. And I did not leave the bank until they gave him an account. I still don't know what his shady history is that they wouldn't do it without me fighting. You didn't even know what you were fighting for. I almost feel maybe it's a pregnancy pregnancy i just feel this maternal thing where like i got him his first bank account he's still using it he's selling out madison square garden now it just was like this beautiful moment and just to see brian redman like have such a huge success but he he was always successful like he

literally co-created he started the joe rogan right podcast but i'm not gonna say it like healed me that my other ex won't talk to me but it was we're on our way but that other ex is not selling out madison he's not you're right so the ones that count and the ones that help me promote my movie on their show that they they're good wait this is a good topic the ones that count i mean i think all girls have a list of the ones where we want to talk about and the ones we're like no let's bury that forever we will never mention revenge is having them not count how do we get there like okay so i had one guy i'm you mean if they're like. Well, it's not even that. It's like, so I had this boyfriend who cheated on me.

And it was annoying. And then he moved to L.A. It was just like, it was annoying. It was annoying. It was like, I'm allergic to condoms. It was just like, you know, it's just like, this is annoying. Yeah. But then years later, when I moved to I moved to LA we like hung out again

and I made out with him once but he was wearing his Invisalign and I found that very disrespectful that's right that's right disgusting but he was like you know I went to this Chinese medicine doctor and she really helped me like realize like how what how horrible was what I did to you and I was like oh I wasn't like in love with you I don't care it was just annoying and that was like the best revenge of my life that is yeah because I was like what I was like don't waste your time I do I do wonder um because there are when people bring up certain people that I've dated and some of them I'm super dismissive about where I'm like oh he didn't count and so there are those I think everyone has a list of the counts and then and the don't count

that's actually so real. I would never have him. I hope to God he never finds out that he doesn't count. But there are some people where I'm like, oh, that was just an in-betweener. Yeah, I have two that are coming to mind where I'm like, that wasn't a real— I guess it was an early days situation-ship, but it wasn't a real— I can't imagine—oh, I mean, I had a lot of those. But I can't imagine oh I mean I had a lot of those but I can't imagine like I there's not one ex-boyfriend that I could imagine giving me a call and being like I'm so

sorry like I don't give a shit yeah like they're all at this point situationships as far as I'm concerned I don't give a f**k about any of them I just there's something about I don't know what it is how it was brought up what what's wrong with. I love to like have a strong connection with an ex that is like, but you have to be 100 million percent over them. And it has to just be, it just, it was just this warmth that I felt talking to them. And again, maybe it's because I'm still like trying to fill this hole from my high school ex who blocked me on all channels. But there's just like this familial warmth there. It's different than friendship. It's, you know, we're not going

to talk. We're not going to hang out. But like when I see you, I want it to be so warm and happy and like catch up, hear how your family is doing. I don't know. To me, that's just like the perfect ex relationship. And also it could, I was going to say like, oh, if they did something really bad, like maybe that's never possible. But with enough time, I'm just thinking like I think anything is possible. You hear that high school ex? I won't say your name out of respect, but I know where you work. I know how many kids you have. He's got kids. Yeah. I did. Cute.

I did a refresh deep dive on him when i was home for holidays and my mom and dad did drive me past his house and i said that once the movie comes out that's a little bit about him i'm gonna stop that's it that's the period to the sentence yeah you should get a billboard of the movie right outside his face i mean obviously i'm thinking that as well but you don't go by anymore, but he'll have to drive by you. I think that, like, what I have trouble, what I'm realizing now is that there are some people who are so adamantly against being friends with exes. And I think that has to come from their own, like, personal experiences, you know. I mean, how we feel is really just a projection of what we've been through right because there are people who are like you know absolutely not

that relationship should be dead it's over no friendship and I wonder where that those hard and fast rules like come from being hurt I would think but I mean it's like you've been hurt I've been hurt but it's like Todd's like uh no don't be friends with the ex people. I just don't want to be. I just really, I really think I've grown so much. And I think I had such unhealthy relationships because I was so unhealthy that it's like, I just don't even relate to who I was in those relationships. And I have no interest in revisiting that. I forgive that.

And I give grace to that girl that I was, but I have no interest in having anything to do with that. But I think it like we have like a job and we work to get like I wouldn't yeah it wouldn't be like yeah it's not I'm not taking this job because but it's just like I don't I'm definitely not like seeking out an ex randomly it's more like if I see them I want I love that it's warm and happy yeah yeah but you're like just if I was seeking it out that would be like weird a little. Well, I just don't think I need like, I don't know. I feel fulfilled with Todd.

You've moved on. Yeah, and I don't need like, closure doesn't come from another person. I really don't believe it comes from another person. Thank you. From within yourself. Good thing I've said to my sister 3,000 times. While driving by your ex-boyfriend's house and live it. He won't just peek out the, say that louder.

You get closure from yourself. And I, even though I'm a, I'm sorry, I'm a hypocrite because my sister has been saying like, I just want closure. I just want this last conversation with this guy. And I'm like,

you get closure only from yourself. But then now I have a friend breakup going on in my life that I am spinning and wanting closure from. So I do understand it, but I keep telling myself, there's no last conversation that's going to like give me the answers. Like I have to find it within and it is, I will admit really hard. What do you need me to say? Annie, let's have it right here, right now. Yeah, because I think that it can be two things. It's really that that person could say something that could offer you some further understanding of why they acted the way they did. Or you're really just like, because with some people, you'll never get that.

It's not in their wheelhouse to even want you to understand. And they don't even know. They don't know. It's just a lost cause. They also just might not like you. It's true. They also just might not want to face what they did or said. And the easiest way to do that is to hide.

I don't know. I mean, what is your advice for me that I'm like, I'm pissed. I think about it more than I'd like to. And it's not healthy for me to be pregnant and thinking about this like person who I feel like effed me over. What is your advice? Because I, you know, all I want to do is call this person and be like, you did this. I heard this. You did this. You're saying this, like, that's scary. I don't like that. Like, I want to say all these things. Once you cut the cord, like you cut a cord and then it really doesn't matter what they say because you have nothing to do with them.

Have you already done those things? Have you already confronted that you've done this? So I think that if what's bugging you is that you haven't said that. I don't think you're yearning for the conversation. It's just that you're yearning to get that off your chest. Yeah, I am. Yeah. To feel heard. Yeah. Do you have to see this person? No, I don't actually. I mean, every time you think about that person, I would just be thinking about how exciting is that you're having a daughter and how much fun you're going to have with your kid and just focus your energy on positive because who cares? It's like what you're wanting to do is you're wanting to control the narrative of this friend breakup or whatever and you're mad if they're talking shit on you but it's like if I think I know who you're talking

about I promise you it really doesn't matter what they say because they're it's so sad you're friends with them to begin with but and it's really time I think to kind of move on from the low vibe energy you were when you you block you literally blocked three years ago you were ahead of the game what is wrong with me I you're distracting yourself just be happy yes I have so much to be happy about and you're used to not being happy so you're like you have a pattern of like being upset about something or you had him be upset and you're watching him be upset and he's entertaining you. So he is like a negative thing that you were like poking and it was funny. You would like. I can guarantee you it's only going to amuse him and feed something in him that you come to him

with sincerity. It's just so easy. It's just so easy. It actually is not hard. So it's literally a choice where you just go, I'm not going to like let my brain upset. You could be obsessing over like creative things. Right. You're right. No, you know what? It's intrusive thoughts. It's intrusive thoughts and they're intrusive. This is not a person that was supposed to be near us. Like I want to feel bad, but I also don't because I'm just like- There's nothing to feel bad. You guys are right. Someone who would do these things, you guys are right about them. And I know-

I would more evaluate who you are to be, because that's where you have control over. Go, why do I, why did I need this type of entertainment? Why couldn't- I think habit. I think you get into a habit with someone and then they feel like a comfort and it's fun. Because there was a crew. There was a crew. Yeah. And it's kind of the same pattern. No, I think that-

One's a crew. Yeah. And it's kind of the same pattern. No, I think that— One's a little more malicious. I just think that I want to look within and be like, why—what is missing from my life that I would have people in my life like that? And I'm going to look at it as like a gift that I wasn't able to end this relationship, this friendship, and thankfully they they did I have a genuine question for you Esther are you trying to single white female me yes how did you who told you okay I actually like almost feel bad admitting this I think that this is my cycle it's like I wanted I I had romantic feelings for you and now they've shifted and I want to be

you because this weekend I did not so I went to Austin with Bobby and listen to this listen to this listen closely okay so I went to Austin with Bobby and I didn't realize who was also coming on that trip was none other than Kalilah's whole crew at Tiger Belly Gilbert and George and so I ended up spending like basically 72 hours as Kalilah with Bobby George and Gilbert and I had the most fun I've ever had. Like, it was the best time. And all I kept thinking was, like, this is Kalilah's role. Like, I was just like, I'm her now. This is it. I fit in so seamlessly.

This is perfect. And I'm so jealous. Like, I can't believe that's your crew. It was so – the dynamics were right just in every single way. The betrayal. That makes – no, can I say something? That makes me sad because I've spent time with them and I felt that same thing and I thought it was special.

Like, I thought I was special. You've been on the road with us. Yes. It is really so sweet. It is so sweet, but now I'm like, I guess that's how they are with everybody. Your mother is so funny. Gilbert is unbelievable. He's a comedic mastermind.

Did you circumcise Gilbert on Tiger Belly? No, but I've threatened for years. Oh, I really thought that happened. I was like, that is pretty gangster. That's pretty fun. That's pretty fun. And his wife rules too. Gilbert's wife is the star of the entire family.

She's the best. I will take this moment to absolutely establish myself as an original founding father of Tiger Belly. Why, you ask? I have receipts. established myself as an original founding father of tiger belly why you ask i have receipts how did gilbert meet kalilah through my college friend jenna how did jenna meet kalilah through me so my lawyers will be reaching out i think i'm oh i mean this single white femaling is so deep like it stems back from like so you see how she's i have posturing be careful you end up with a pump in your eye oh that's right that's a great movie you guys it's just basically a woman trying to become

another woman but there were initial like romantic feelings right kind of i haven't seen in a while but i do remember that feeling of being like wait is she in love with her and they're just not saying it i love bridget fonda was she gave us much. Esther, thank you for being my stand-in. It was really fun. Thank you for allowing it. I'm really slightly threatened, but also okay with it. But speaking of circumcision, I've completely changed my mind. So I grew up in a country, right, where if you're not circumcised, you're humiliated,

like your whole life. If you're an uncirc circumcised you're humiliated like your whole life if you're an uncircumcised adult they will call you this thing called pisot and you are undateable like you're just not a man if you're not circumcised you're not circumcised similar to like you know i know like um i think it's jewish filipino whatever like catholics right i genuinely think the idea of circumcising like my own son and chopping off a bit of his penis without consent really makes me sick like how did we get here is it was it because of religion it's getting less and less common but they say it's still around 50 50 but that's call me akeeper, but I enjoy a nanny to myself. Oh.

There's more. Yes. It's more dick. I've never... Can I just see? It's more skin, but it's rubbing. You don't have the parts we have. Julian, can I just say this? I know that you have a booty but it's not the same. There's a rib. It's a whole thing. It's like fun to... Yeah, it's fun the same there's a ribbed it's a whole thing it's like fun to yeah it's fun

no because um i also think that it takes away the joy of masturbation because when you have it's almost like having a built-in pocket because when you jerk off when you have foreskin you're just the dick goes in and out of the foreskin and when you blow them it is so much easier animal you make a little animal balloon you make a balloon you don't need lube to go back and forth on the shaft you literally just use the foreskin i like to make it like a little poodle tail like you like blow into it and you like i thought we were talking about your unborn son this is really switched right um you do have to worry about that bv though baby i gotta clean that famundi cheese out i've are you for sure like you would never circumcise because you're no i would

do whatever i don't i was pro but dave was not pro but you know annie how you were talking about how um the way you are born embeds into like your trauma and the young life that you live. I think that something must happen to the brain when you are hurt. Something is being, yeah, when you are physically, when a part of you is being physically removed. And especially in that part of your body. We don't remember anything. What?

Yes. It's downloaded. You're born with a brain. It's taking in information. All of your problems, like your problem with this guy right now and whatever your psychological issue is with this person. Yeah, it's from when I was circumcised. It's from when you were circumcised as a child. No, it's from when you were like under seven years old.

Like your brain is like fully like all of your like negative stories go into your brain before you're seven years old. Well, it does make sense that, because I did find out recently that basically when I was a baby, my dad like literally, I can't remember if we talked about this on here already, but like did nothing. So I'm wondering if there's some...

He didn't, daddy didn't do skin to skin. I guess he did, but it's just my mom did it. My mom is a person who does everything. And so I don't know if there's some weird, like dad was there, but was just there. My dad, yeah, my dad was like working all the time too. But it's funny because I do remember when we were kids, like if my mom went to go play racquetball, my dad was the one at home.

We called it babysitting. The dad was babysitting us. That's common. Yeah. Dad's babysitting tonight. But it wasn't like mom's babysitting the rest of the time. Wait, Annie, how was New York? I can't believe you went to New York this weekend.

It was fun. I was like sick though. I was like, I was just trying to keep it together the whole time. But it was really fun. But it was still really fun. But it was just like, I hate not being 100%. It's just so frustrating. I'm so like hyper and manic and I love being crazy.

And it's just like. Did you eat anything fun or like? No, I couldn't really do it. I was like, you know, I stayed at Tim's place in Tribeca it was fun but I I'm starting to get really really proud of myself that I am like so good at cultivating the best green room hangs on this f***ing earth like my shows that I book like the Annie Wooden Friends and then this one I did with Bonnie but it's like I just like like, all of my friends. It was me, Mark Norman, Tim, Dylan, Bonnie, and then— Did you stay with Tim?

Mm-hmm. What was that like? It was fun. Staying with a friend. It was so great. Okay. Yeah, I've stayed with Tim at two out of—no, three out of four of his houses. Okay.

Yeah. I will check those boxes when I get home with my journal. And it's been very fun. It's been very fun. I've just not had a reason to sleep over in LA, but we did. So we were in the green room and then Sean Patton was there and then Santino jumped, like dropped by.

It was just like, it was just such good laughs. Just so many old stories. I had that like the week before Nate Bregazzi was in town with Ari and it was like, just like, it's just so fun. These people that I came up with that are doing so well. It's just so amazing. Like Bregazzi just posted a picture of him doing like this huge stadium or arena I don't

know the difference and like Jimmy Fallon was bringing him it's just like I used to do Eastville open mics with them you know it's just very exciting and it's really fun and just really in my feels about it and then last night I had an Annie Wooden Friends and it was um Tim Natasha who's just a fucking angel. She's so beautiful. Kumail, who's like weirdly so, I'm like, Kumail, did you used to be fat? Like, I don't remember what you looked like before you had like a chiseled face. Does he still have the same ripped body?

He's so ripped. He looks like a candle. No, he's so ripped. And I'm like, were you fat? Like, I'm like, I don't remember what you looked like, but I don't remember chiseled. He wasn't even fat. He was just like not in shape. And then like ripped. And I'm like, were you fat? Like, I'm like, I don't remember where you looked at, but I don't remember Chisel. He wasn't even fat. He was just like not in shape. And then like Marvel. And then he.

It's so crazy. And then it was like, and then Whitney stopped by. It's just like my shows, people that aren't on come stop. Like, it's just so fun. I've been thinking about this a lot. Like the comedy clubs are such a good example of a third place, which like a third place is basically somewhere you can show up. You don't have to plan it, but like you might see people that you know. And because basically like maintaining adult friendships is really, really difficult, which I fully relate to. Like you have to like make these

plans, drive across town, whatever. And so sometimes they block you. What you're talking about is like one of the most like fueling community building, like brain empowering experiences is just like getting to be at this place where you don't know who's going to show up. You're going to have laughs. You're going to have fun. Like that is what I'm trying to manifest more into my life in 2024. Like that's going to make me feel good. That's going to be good for my health. It's just going to, it's like, I think for a long time, like, relationships and friendships were something I just didn't prioritize.

And I'm like, no, I want to do what, I will drive. I will show up. Like, because that, what you're saying is magical. It's a drug. It's better than drugs. It's crazy. And it's like, and then on top of that, we're all like working on these new acts and these jobs. And so it's like fun. We're like laughing. We're going over bits. It's just like, so it just was so fun. And I think like, if you don't have this job, right. And you don't have

this sort of like social outing thing, it's like, maybe you're on a bowling league or it's like sports or it's something that's like keeping you. Even the coffee shop. That's a third place for me. Like I go there. The baristas know me. I know them. I think even like wherever you go to work out, like I'm not working out at home over, not on the list anymore. Like I need to go.

I need to see people. I don't even care if I've never seen them before. I will be like, I will start. I'm like, I like your bag. What's up? I think that's supposed to be one of the keys to longevity. Yeah, I'm like, third place is Rite Aid for me. What'd you say? A third place is Rite Aid for me. Donna, my girl, I love you. It is a key to longevity. Yeah, it's daily social interactions

with people who aren't your close friends and family. Well, I told you my dad always says whenever I'm depressed, my dad's like, go talk to strangers. I'm like, that's literally how I got molested. Thanks, dad. But we're just, my family, we're extroverts. I see why you do that now. Because you always, whenever I'm out with you, I'm like, where did Annie go? Oh, she's 30 minutes deep into a conversation at the register. And I'm just like, I thought we were hanging out but I see the beauty in that now and that's something that I don't lean towards and I think this is part of like the pregnancy effect of like there's just like a new sense of loneliness in me and I my theory is that it's like because I have the baby in me I being alone is a lot scarier

because like my body knows I need community to help me survive. And so I'm just prioritizing this experience that you're sharing for sure. Yeah, so fun. Hopefully I won't be with only my exes like it was this weekend. I need others too. I can't believe you didn't go to the apartment. I thought about you yesterday. I was reading this study on like um have you heard

of the still-faced mom no but that's my mom yeah so i know like it's resonating dr drew might have touched on it a little bit but it's basically like i think i think he called it like second order representation but basically they do studies on moms not reacting to their baby's like bids for attention in a way that the baby can understand. So like if they're like communicating with a flat affect rather than being animated, apparently it causes a lot of psychological problems for babies or children. And I thought about your mom because your mom is very stoic. Yeah, it's like a finished thing. There's no movement. There's no, like the tone is always the same.

She's like AI mom. Was your mom like this? A hundred percent. It's so annoying. Really? Guys, my mom, it's the most annoying thing. You know what I was like? I was remembering this bitch.

Fucking, I remember like in high school I'd be like mom do you want to like hang out this weekend and she's like oh I'm going to the art museum with Max's girlfriend and I'm like can I go to the art museum why are you taking some other like it would be like she would literally like show it to other people but I'm telling you it's because she's adopted and she has issues with like mother-daughter relationship because she has issues with having been adopted was she like sort of like a flatter personality? She would look she would look she can be animated for other people she would look at my be like you're looking at my ear. After years of fine print contracts and getting ripped off by overpriced wireless providers if

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It's like, oh, she's doing more. Like we do less. Okay, this one I for sure didn't get. Did they listen with empathy and validate your feelings? I love you guys, but no. Did they help you learn to label your feelings with words? No. Are you fucking

kidding me? It's calling me a selfish cunt labeling my feelings. I don't know. Actually, I had to, guys, I'm doing EMDR. Am I saying it right? Isn't it so great? I haven't started that part yet. I just did the horrific timeline of traumatic events. Oh my which i i really do i've done so much work on myself and i am like i'm over this or whatever i'm like there are stored and trapped emotions inside me it was like her like my therapist is like a selfish cunt they called him like yes yeah i guess when you say that i hear it as a joke well it's funny because it's funny now but and because my parents here's the thing i did always and my therapist pointed this out she's like she's like you're you did always feel loved though i was like yes because they always like apologize my parents never like silent treated me

you gotta apologize too they would because they were fucking it was crazy what they would do so then but it would always i would go up to my room and then they would come up and apologize because my dad was like my dad worked a lot on his anger like a lot on his anger he didn't work on it in the beginning of my life he worked on it when I was like a teenager so it's like so I did get but it was all he was mad he was overwhelmed from work he would come home and he would take it out on us he would just like didn't want to hear kids you know and so but and obviously he felt selfish and that's why I was being called selfish I feel like ignore was the bigger like yeah I didn't tactic in my house it was like just kind of ignore my in tactic in my house was ignore until it gets too much and then you just belt them and punch them. Okay.

Okay. That also sounds like a joke, but is it? Yeah, but it's like, no, punch your kids right in the mouth. These things that you're listing sound to me like advanced parenting. It seems new, right? We don't have Instagram with the little slides telling us what being emotionally available is. Like, I want to give my parents a break because, and I'll always, like, I always am so grateful to my dad because he was, he was beaten. He was beaten. He was beaten. He was beaten. And he never laid a hand on me. And so I'm always so grateful for that. He really did. So he did break some part

of that cycle. Of course. And he like, and he manned up and he did break some part of that cycle and he like and he manned up and he did the work and he's so kind and so sweet now and there's I have no I I really like I feel so lucky that my parents have like done all the work they've done because it's just not it's not in my present I accept my parents for what they're doing for me now I think a big thing when I look back on my upbringing and the grace that I give is that like I came out nothing like my mom and nothing like anyone in her family and probably realistically more like my dad. And so I think she just at certain points did not know how to this was just so and especially she had already had my sister and my sister was much like you know more calm and like prettier and prettier yes we all know

skinnier prettier bigger boobs yes taller you forgot taller taller yeah yeah um but so I also give grace and like I do feel a lot of, I'm so grateful and I feel so close with my parents. And I think any parent child relationship is so complicated. Like I think about you and what you've shared on the show, you've been so vulnerable, like your parents age gap makes you uncomfortable, but it's still your dad and you still love him and like that's such an a perfect example of how complicated it can be with a parent because it's we're programmed to love our parents we're not like that's asking a lot to be holding a grudge over you know they had like dr spock was like the parenting book there was like a book that told you how to bear there was a book and it was

star trek themed it was star trek themed? It was Star Trek themed. It said, do this inside your daughter. Just kidding. Wait, what's the last one? Because these are. It's famously, it was written by a man, but everyone says that the wife wrote about. Wait, what was the last thing on that list? Because this list is really rising.

Oh, yeah. Set limits when you are helping your child to solve problems or deal with upsetting situations appropriately. Wow. limits when you are helping your child to solve problems or deal with upsetting situations appropriately well did you they sure yanked me out of the closet when i was constipated and hiding because it hurt to poop and said take a shit you bitch um so i guess that was a limit but also there's a little bit of abuse like todd i'm always like to todd's parents i'm like you like ignored him just enough he's such a perfect man they just did, I don't know what it was, but he's so good. Yeah, the recipe is so hard. It's hard to pinpoint what the recipe is. They just did the right, it was the right amount of laughing and the right amount of yelling and the right amount of like, I parents, a great upbringing, and he's a great guy.

But I know that part of what makes him a great guy is not just that healthy upbringing. It's that he had a really big nose and was made fun of. And without that element, he wouldn't be Dave. And that element makes him an amazing person. And so what is the recipe? I don't know. Because you need hardships, right? Like someone, you need some level of difficulty. Like they say, like for animals to thrive in any environment,

you need medium disturbance, not too much and not too little. And that's literally how the strongest like animals like evolve it's you need some mid-level disturbance so i think a sprinkle of trauma a sprinkle of bad things but mostly love feeling loved is like i think a great recipe i also have heard that if you don't have a traumatic childhood that's your traumatic thing like not having trauma also can read as like we got enough therapy out there we're we just have a lot we're social media has made it a lot harder in a lot of ways i think because there's like beauty standards there's like this sort of like but what about the swipeys but there's the swipeys there's the swipeys and there's there's hearing other people's like experiences like this podcast hello yeah it's other people learning that other people's experience but even

like think with parenting there's like so many parenting tiktoks there's so many like examples i yeah and they're so fucking overwhelming and i I hate my algorithm right now. I'm so impressed to hear that you literally went through the painful, annoying-ass work of laying out a timeline for, like— Well, she wanted me to do it as homework, and I said, if you ever want to meet again, if you ever want to see me again, bitch, you will be right here with me. I'm like, I need an audience. I need an audience. That's what I've been realizing too. It's like with all these like writing projects I'm working on, it's like, I just, I'm done like shaming myself for not being someone that wants to sit and write by myself. I just don't want to do it. It's just, I'm a twin. I'm sick of trying to like reinvent how I learn

and how I express myself. And I'm just embrace who you are yes it's like I don't have fucking time to go what am I gonna go back to college and it's just it's I like partners it makes sense you're a twin you shared a womb with another body um over the last few weeks I've been trying to pinpoint things that cause me quick rage and rage that I cannot like easily come back down from. What do I need to say to you too? And I realized one of the things, one of the things that really like will put me in like, I mean, a rage is if I cook for you and you don't eat it while it's hot, if you even wait, if I say, hey, dinner is ready and you don't come running to the table, it will put me in a rage that will

cost maybe like at least a week of not speaking. Because it's like the wasted time. You're like, I spent all this time. Because I think I cook with so much like love in my heart and I put so much like thought behind it. And when someone's like, yeah, I'll be there. Let me just finish this thing. And then 30 minutes later, they eat that thing. It nothing like ruins my day more. That is really annoying to me. I don't have rage, but it pisses me off. Yeah, that's interesting. Can you express that to people so they know like. But then also, if people have something to do if i'm cooking for someone it shouldn't really be on my schedule i recognize now that i'm not necessarily right i'm

not right for feeling this rage i should i disagree patient but it's just like you're not gonna eat it at its optimal like i'm searching for something i can relate to in this i will never be cooking for anyone. I am searching. Wait, I know what this is about, though. When someone cooks for you, though, Annie, do you come to the table right away? You're like, no, I'll be there in like 30 minutes. Yeah, no, I wouldn't do that.

It's putting effort into something and doing something sweet and then feeling a little disrespected. Right. I think that's what I feel. I think it's different for Kalilah. I think it's that she is a perfectionist and an overachiever and that's how she was trained to be. And so if the person is not experiencing the food at the best possible time, then she's not going to be perceived as the best that she did. Right. They're going to

judge me based on what the food tastes like when it's no longer optimal at the optimal temperature. And they're going to be like, oh, it was okay versus, well, if you had eaten it 10 minutes prior. And you can't microwave it. It's not the same.

Yeah, it's not the same. You would have a gold medal. You know what this is an argument for? This is an argument for talking with your mouth full. Because I will be talking, but I'll also be eating.

And I don't care if you think that's rude because it's actually more rude to her for me and I can't it's rude to me to stop talking so you're saying no matter what you're doing my mouth is moving so food can go in no I I think whoever came up with a don't talk when your mouth is full is like who the fuck cares you know what it is parents that don't want to hear you it's parents that want just a break from you speaking. Is that what it is? They're just going, shut the fuck up for fucking one second. No, I think it's there's this whole crew of people who have manners, like wasps and stuff

that we just aren't, none of us are privy to. Guys, I have been hanging out with some wealthy people, like wealthy, like people that were like born in wealth that aren't in our weird business. It's different. I'm trying to vibe high, but it's- Do they have, their breath is better? It's not a breath thing. It's like, there's a politeness that I'm not, I'm trying to fake and I don't, I'm not comfortable in it. It's just, there's just a level

and they are bewildered by me. How old are they? Because like my dad was very hardcore into manners because he was born in 1924 and he was born into a very like old money, like affluent European family. Right. So my dad was very like I the one thing he hated is to this day I will still eat with one leg up like this. And it used to drive him crazy. But I used to stand my ground and I say, well, I want to be comfortable when I eat. So I'm going to. And my dad never let go of all of his like etiquette values and I do think like he was just cut from like a different cloth in that way because he was like forced to like

learn some level of like etiquette yeah I think there's people who don't want you to chew with your mouth open it's just none of us and it makes that makes complete sense to me people who don't want you to chew with your mouth open. It's just none of us. And it makes, that makes complete sense to me. There's people that want us to not chew on the mic. It's like, you know. What I'm doing, like for a living, is my dad's like absolute nightmare. Why? Because when we had to leave the table to go to the bathroom, I told you guys this. What we would have to say is, you cannot say, I'm going number two.

I got to go to the bathroom. You would say, may I pick up some flowers like that was the code we would speak in code because it was impolite to say I gotta go take a shit like he was that guy your upbringing it just always it's like a board game and you just it always twists and turns risk and it's scary. And it's confusing. Like, I don't know how you got from point A to point B. I don't know either. And I think that's why I am somebody who lives in maternity outfits, even though I'm not pregnant. I am so sloppy. I like not being, I like not brushing my hair.

And it's because my dad had that very like rigid idea of like, he was always Now you're single white femaleing her. I know. That's totally what I really, because my mom was like super clean, like everything perfect. And that's why my, like people, my friends come over like, Esther, that's why you're a slob. It's because your mom made everything perfect, everything with a coaster, whatever. And I remember I went to our friend Jenna's house in college and I saw she had a wall in her bedroom that her mom let all of anyone she wanted draw also this wall is covered and like writing and I I just my jaw was on the floor like I loved those rooms the people at the chalkboard walls it was it was just no it was painted wall and people could draw who paid for

her deposit no I I think they own their house oh okay but i like i you don't i was not allowed to if there was a thumbprint on a wall in my house it was like we tell you not to touch the walls like it was a huge deal and so the littlest thumbprint what a little thumbprint that was so low to the ground who's even gonna see it the purity and the cleanliness that was required of me has definitely swung me and you're just such a little stinker how to set the table what i don't know i was a waitress i still don't know which way the fucking which side the fork's on i know how to set the table but in like i think the filipino version because we eat with a spoon

on the right hand and a fork on the i have to google it every time no i just think you gotta you just you get the utensils you need it doesn't matter where they are but i think i got a little bit of both right so like because my mom is ocd but i got the shower three times a day part like the so i'm i appear sloppy but i'm so so so weird about like my mouth and like the hygiene also because we're like sweaty we have to make sure we don't smell yes i am always very very sweaty i'm sweating right now jesus christ i'm always sweating oh after i did the timeline therapy my sweat was down to my waist yeah are you serious yeah it was down to my waist so it was one hour this was like a big deal yeah this like shit and we haven't done that part yet so i'm like emdr is really crazy my uh my sister-in-law does it down in south florida two people or she

gets it done no she she is a practitioner so she she does in south florida and i mean it's like it's a it's gnarly. Like it is. I commend you for doing that. I'm excited. I think my first EMDR session, I hardly said a word. I had an initial like burst of memories. And then I was like too terrified to speak like for the rest of the time. And she was like, try this again next time.

Is EMDR when you hold the buzzers? Yeah, you have different options. You can hold the buzzers. You can, there's multiple ways, but there's always some like bilateral like stimulation because it connects the two parts of your brain. It's what? It's hosted by Taylor Thomason. Are you doing that?

I don't know. You should do that to promote your movie. Wait, I don't get the joke though. Because it's like a buzzer show. Oh. I was raped. Bing. Make sure you have just one hand on the buzzer no um yeah i have no clue what to i had i had this thought when i was about 40 feet underwater um that was really maybe people have like thought about this and maybe they've said it time and

time again, but I really had this like very deep like rage, another thing I was rageful about, about the fact that, you know, when you were growing up, when boys would shame you for being like roast beefy or your lips would hang too low or they would like always mention and they would talk amongst each other about like the look of our vagina wait annie what's the ozempic update it's been like a couple months now are we still going i'm i'm just i don't know i'm ozempic's best candidate i love it i lost 15 pounds no side effects no side effects except joy happiness clear mind and how often do you get it? I do it. I administer

it myself once a week, but I took a week off because I was doing ayahuasca and I was fine. Like, I think I could go off a bit. I think it did help me with my patterns and stuff. Like, they're like, you have to stay on it forever. I'm like, not me. Is there like an energy change or a shift or are you still like, do you to work out or yeah it's like so easy to work out I don't know what anyone's like it's just I'm like am I on a placebo or something I don't know because I'm just having the great and it's like I just feel great I don't feel any there's no negative side effect I'm hungry I just don't overeat so I just eat like if you were just like a normal person without like a disorder not that I have like that much of a disorder but I just eat like if you were just like a normal person without like a disorder. Not that I have like that much of a disorder, but I just, you know, I don't have like the emotional connection to food.

It's just I just eat it. I enjoy it. It's so easy. Because you and I share that same problem where it's like we don't eat to get full. Right. We eat like past full, right? We eat for taste. You think you're the only ones who has that issue?

Come on. Yeah. So we definitely like over. I know, you've really gained a bunch. So does it just help you stop when you're satiated? Can I touch your stomach? Yeah. It's so cute, Esther.

But like, does touching it do anything for you? It's so like smooth and cute. It's like firm, right? That's like what's different. This is the firmest my stomach has ever been. Just to feel like something around like that is like so cute. Are you feeling kicks yet? Are there movements?

I feel movement, yeah. It's not really kicks. It's just like she'll just randomly be like, I'm like, okay. But yeah, I love feeling movement. It's my favorite thing. They say be kind to your mother. She's the only one that felt your heartbeat inside her. Aww. Isn't that cute? And yet i'm still a huge bitch to my mom well you know we're the meanest of the

people we love the most yeah yeah i know it's like that thing where you're like you i can talk to my mom but you can't i will say there was a huge shift the last 10 days i'm 30 weeks right now and i would say around 28, 29 weeks, the hunger, which you guys will relate to, has become binge eating disorder level. It's okay. Ravenous. And it's the one time it's truly okay. Thank you for saying that. It does make me feel sick a little bit, but it is like that panic hunger where I'm like what is in the like what's in the kitchen

and I'm just and I'm like grabbing things that I haven't thought about and that are expired you know like it is a hunger I just have not experienced in so long and you said you ate shrimp for the first time yes I had that was my first like weird pregnancy craving was I just kid has taste there's so like there's so much has taste. It's probably because Dave. There's so much of Dave. Oh, that's so funny. Because Dave is such a seafood guy. I've never really had shrimp, which I know is weird, but then I was thinking about it. Did it feel like cannibalism? Did it feel too close? I did. You felt very threatening. It wasn't comfortable. Were you scared of the shrimp might actually eat you? Come back at me. We have little shrimp. Todd got a new fish tank

and he got these little shrimp. Wait, I would love to see what that looks like. She's going to drink the whole tank, Annie. Kill all your babies. They're so little though. They're like little babies. Really? Yeah. He got all these little tiny fish. They're so cute. Do they get big? They're not going to get big. We just have a bunch of little tiny fish. Oh, see. They're really cute. I didn't know you had fish, too. We have everything. This is great. I have a zoo.

I'm an animal handler. I'm going to start charging and bring them on people's shows. When my baby's born, can we get a membership to your zoo? Guys, when I used to do Chelsea Handler's show, they had the list of the guests because they would do shoot two shows a day. And so they had the list of the guests for the next one. And it said animal handler. And I thought she had a brother named animal.

And I was like, that's so weird. She had a brother named animal. No, I'm like, I want to like teach kids that snakes are cool and not scary. I like have a whole new. This is a TikTok series. I love, I just like love. This is what I love about Todd. He like, he just has all these hobbies that aren't things that I would naturally be inclined to. And then, so I like, I'm just like

learning all these new things are just now in my world. And it's so fun. And I'm like, like, we will watch these like YouTubes of these people, these reptile people. And then I'm like DMing the Y and like, I'm like girling out with like these like reptile girls. The reptile people. And then I'm like DMing the, and like, I'm like girling out with like these like reptile girls. The reptile wives, the real reptile wives of Los Angeles. Gianna, what's up my girl? She's so cute. I have to DM her cause she has these like, um, on the vlog I saw today, she was wearing these, um, sweatpants that are like hunter print, you know, where it's like leaves and stuff. I'm like, Oh, I need hunter sweatpants. Those are very cool right now. And she would like, when I posted my skims that, the brown skims outfit I got, she was like, oh my God,

I was just going to get it. I was like, get it, bitch. It's just like so cute. It's so fun. Did I tell you how an ex retaliated by eating my pet fish? I don't like that. It's the same guy. It's the same roast beef guy, actually.

When we broke up. Is that man in prison? Like, what's going on? No, he's a really same guy. It's the same roast beef guy, actually. When we broke up. Is that man in prison? Like, what's going on? No, he's a really successful guy. I don't understand how every week there's some new horrifying thing. And she's like, did I tell you? And we think she did. We go, she's like, did I tell you?

And we're like, probably. Yeah. And then it's never. I miss the tooth fairy guy that would just knock your teeth out and steal your teeth. Oh, yeah. He'd punch you from in. I like the guy that would punch into the. She had a boyfriend that would go.

He would punch in. Yeah, because he was like, stop. The head of my bed was facing my window. And I think I forgot to call him one night. This was in high school. And so he like opened my window and and then woke me up with a punch. Punched through. We should do a where are they now with those guys.

He's not in a good place. I had to keep tabs on him because I think he's actually very unsafe. Can you tell I've been hanging out with wealthy people because I'm like, I have to undo it. You do look extra slouchy today have to well I also

realized I went with a bunch of my girlfriends to Santa Fe my like um hallucinogen girls and we rented this like big house and it was so like Santa Fe is my fucking spot I fucking love Santa Fe that's where I'm gonna go like right on my shit you know we just rented this fucking mansion I'm with a bunch of like badass like it was like me a bunch of like women basically most of them in their 50s just like inspiring cool bitches I noticed they were taking pictures and um every picture I was like my posture was done like this and I never noticed and I was like oh I did I've created that because when I was a kid my parents said that I when was born, I had the best posture of any baby. And they did this whole photo shoot of me in like gymnastics gear and stuff because they were like, we just used to laugh about how you just had the best posture.

And then it's a learned behavior. I like dimmed my light physically. I like started like slouching. It's called armoring. Yeah. Yeah. So now I'm like, I'm back. I thought it was just because like the Mary Kate Olsen 2000s era, we were all doing that.

She was armoring too. They were younger than me. No, armoring is a real thing. I didn't look up to them. It's probably why we all have TMJ because if you've like sustained any kind of like difficulty or trauma when you're younger, like your first physical instinct is to armor up. So to hunch over and pull your shoulders

that's why i think i notice in traffic like if i'm late i like this one shoulder goes up so this is like my like yeah but i also i was doing a hypnosis a session of hypnosis and we got to that i have this story about when i was in utero i took all my brother's like nutrients because he was like, no offense, a shrimp. And I was like, I came out just like pounds bigger than him. That's crazy. Pounds bigger is crazy. I was way bigger than him. And then growing up bigger than him until like 10th grade or something.

And then everybody thought me and my older brother were the twins. So you felt like shamed about that. So I felt like I took too much. So then I'm always like over giving. It's like I feel like guilty that I like that I'm that I have things. And so I'm like, I'll just give it to other people. And I'll just like. And then.

So then I was flying back from. I can't remember where the. Maybe it was Santa Fe. And I was like in first class. So there's just two seats. So it's like this guy sitting next to me in the, I'm in the window. And I realized like, it's even like to the point where like, I won't pee if I have to pee. Like, I just won't do anything that's like, even to bodily functions, I won't do anything that's going to like upset people. Are you serious? Yeah. And so, and so I'm sitting on the plane and

I'm holding my piss in and it's like, there's so many more hours left. And I'm like, oh, the guy's sleeping. I don't want to wake him up. And then I was like, you know what? He chose leg room over fucking being able to sleep through this. I have to fucking pee. It doesn't matter. Who is this? This is a stranger. So I woke him up. I peed. He peed after me. It was fine. There was nothing like, I probably saved us both from a UTI, but it's like, there's so many times in my life where I, like, I do that. I will put, like, over my physical needs. This is shocking to me. I hate this.

I hate that, like, I'm glad that you're seeing it and making change. Because the fact that you would sit there in a fucking first-class ticket that you paid way too much money for, I know, because it's very expensive, and be suffering. You got to rise up, bitch. It's better life. Because I'm an aisle girly, and I know I get up for anybody. That's my choice. You're right. I chose the aisle.

I will get up. Yeah. If I'm asleep, you wake me up. That's my duty. Esther, that flight we were on is really one of the funniest experiences of my life. Were there two flights, or was that the same flight? Did we fly twice together? I don't know.

I don't know. I might be confusing when I sat next to Esther Steinberg. Just because they're the same name? I'm over it. We don't even look alike. Wait, can I ask a question first? Did you guys get voted anything in high school? Yeah.

Did you? My high school was obviously like not a real high school. I got voted tight as puss by the teachers. No, but in middle school, I remember being so annoyed because they just said most like the Olsen twins because I had a twin brother. Oh, that's such a good one, though. Is it, though? Did everybody get one, Annie? Yeah. Is that why? Yeah. And I was like, that's not a good one though is it though i was like everybody get one any yeah why yeah and i was like that's not a good enough i mean todd was class clown what was yours uh okay

so i know that i would have gotten most change since freshman year but it went to the building because we had a lot of construction what so i'm really. This actually. I could not. It's like I manifested that now for that. For you to get chosen over by a building. I lost to the building. Wait a second. This really explains who you are as a person and everything about you. I was supposed to get most changed. Everyone said they voted for me.

But also like the fact that you're like competitive with the building is very sad. It's very sad. I'm still is very sad. It's very sad. It's very sad. And I did get a different one. This is why you have a movie. This is why you had the, you had the power in your heart

to make a movie because you're trying to out shine a building. Wait, was the building on the ballot? Like, could people vote for the building or you?

I think people wrote it in or the people who made the fucking newspaper at our school were being cool and funny. The building did change a lot. We had construction our whole four years. I will say that.

What, did you get a boob job? What was your big change, bitch? I was just like— Two centimeters taller? No, I just—I started out—I mean, you guys know this. I started my freshman year with a lesbian sex tape. The football team stole it. I was like you know just

drama and then well I guess that's the wrong choice of word because then by the end of high school I was like very serious in the theater program and I was just not in touch with like the cool kids anymore I would rather be talking to a building right now than hear you brag about your fucking you fucking asked me but it's so bad it's not what i thought it's not what i thought you made me humiliate myself are you happy that was you you did that you're like i was so serious about theater i'm i'd rather talk to a beautiful brick wall but i did get voted most likely to have a talent agent which i'm like they got that right they got that right hey thank you but i. Thank you. But I still am upset

about most changed because I know that it would have been me. I got, I got in, in swimming. I got most improved. In swimming, I had a note that allowed me to not go in the pool. You were like, I have a sex tape. I can't go in. They can't see my body again. It'll be too traumatic for everyone. Did you get any? I don't remember having, I think I recently reached out to a friend. I'm like, hey, like, can you send me a yearbook from any of the years I was in high school? Because similar to yours,

like I just don't feel like I had a real high school experience. My high school was, my yearbook was stapled together. Okay. There were 17 kids in my graduating class. The girl running the thing was my frenemy. So she was, it was like, I was like in one little spot. And then she was like on every fucking page. It was like.

It's all about the committee. It's all about the yearbook. I hate that. I hate that. I hate the committee. I think that. But what a loser. The committee never likes girls like us.

They never, the committee, they're not looking out for us. It's so funny like that you got compared to a building and we look like buildings we have the shoulder structure of an actual skyscraper I'm actually really triggered

by you guys you're like a hut I'm really competitive with you guys you were like a little hut you were like a little tent you were a little teepee Esther that building is probably decrepit now

and look at you okay it's a really nice high school I won't talk shit about it. Oh, never mind. I was going to say, is it still around? It's so dark how much you like your high school. It's across the street from Old Orchard Mall.

It's just the way you— It's wonderful. I've been back since. It's really hard when they make me sign in and show my ID, and I don't just walk in. But, yeah. High school was—I peaked in high school that's in mentally i did anyways i took a steep fall in high school but but my sister and i were swimmers we were athletes for a school that hardly even had a swim team because we went to Blair High School. And so when my sister and I

initially wanted to go to La Cañada because they had like a legitimate like high school like swim program. We also swam club outside of that, but they found out that we were, we faked our address to go to La Cañada. So we, they found out about that. And then we ended up getting zoned to Blair High School that didn't really have a swim team. And here were two immigrant girls who they realized like, oh my God, like these girls. With those shoulders, they're like, we can make a team. And so, yeah, my sister won CIF, which is like California Lake State Championships. Like I won league every single year. And we never really got like recognition from the school because they just didn't have the budget or the money because it was like a really shitty school but like but um i we never even got like an announcement no nothing

from them but it's just because they didn't have like their resources for it right so my sister and i were just known as like the swimmers that's like occasionally i you know i sucked weight a couple more dicks than i should have so and i was either the swimmer or like the face clean. Yeah, the swallower. But that's about it. I don't think I ended up on the yearbook like at all maybe except for the swimming stuff. Look at you now in your shitty sweatpants. But, you know, can I tell you what hurts?

Is that I am on the Blair High School list of notable like whatever like but you know when you click my name it's Bobby's picture that shows up unbelievable I'm writing a letter that's funny come on it is funny so sad and funny what a treat

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