Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Going Off the Rails on a Yung Gravy Train

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

All aboard the Gravy Train! Toot Toot ! The very talented, very charming Yung Gravy gets deep about his dreams, what he looks for in a woman & what  psychedelics he was on when he played "It’s Not Unusual" by Tom Jones 1,000 times in the shower – we love us some gravy & hope you do toooooo (t) ! THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: **BETTERHELP** - Take a moment. Take.  A. Moment. ............with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com/TRASHTUESDAY today to get 10% off your first month.  Betterhelp.com/trashtuesday MORE YUNG GRAVY!!!!!!!! www.yunggravy.com IG: :https://www.instagram.com/yunggravy/?hl=en   02:00 Midwest is Best + Mayo Clinic 10:50 Yung Gravy’s Dad was a Dream Specialist? 15:30 Old Parents 24:00 Women Cookin’ & Cleanin’ 33:00 Yung Gravy on Hot Versus Cold Showers 36:00 Drug Times  45:20 Dating Apps 50:00 Relationship Talk  01:01:00 What Elements Do We Need in a Partner   Creds: Producer & Showrunner: stella young, tiny legend Video Shot By: Guy Robinson and Sean Wanless Edited By: Sean Wanless (Audio) & Guy Robinson (Video) & Ariel Moreno (Socials) Theme Song Written by: Bobby Lee  Banana Break Song by: Can Nguyen  This Video Contains Paid Advertising

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Wait, so you're from Rochester, Minnesota. I am. And your best friend just told me that you guys went to Mayo High School. Mm-hmm. As a hypochondriac, because the Mayo Clinic is in Rochester, was there any specialty hospital-adjacent lessons or any perks? Well, yeah. So when I would go to my normal checkups and everything as a kid,

I was at the Mayo Clinic. And then when I've been on tour traveling and have a broken arm or whatever injury I have and I go to the hospital, I'm like, wow, like that was like a Four Seasons Hotel compared to like what, you know, you see at any other hospital. Yeah, wow. That's such a weird thing though,

to like have that just at your disposal, like to have the Mayo Clinic right there and that's the hospital you go to. It was interesting. And that started getting goosebumps? No, truly like some people dream of like going to dodger stadium or like fenway park i'm like i want to go to the male clinic i want like i want to submit my insurance card see what they cover and just go

up and like make it happen esther um when she gave birth to her baby at the hospital it was like well before the the painful stuff happened it was like someone was in disneyland texting me she's like i love it here it's party time no not the male clinic in pasadena but she likes hospitals hospitals that's interesting do you like hospitals um it's me making awkward small talk wait how did you break i broke both my arms last summer i fell on my face at a festival uh sorry i didn't mean to laugh it's okay it was pretty funny i uh finished my amazing set it was at gulf shores alabama 15 000 people and i just was walking back i was giving out roses that's the end of my set and I tripped on a piece of plywood and fell on my face and broke both my arms I didn't know until the next day

But like what I thought that only the people right around me saw it, but then I realized when TMZ posted There was gigantic like Megatron's filming me the whole time. So wait, how did you land? I felt super fast and it was like, I think you can see in the video, if you slow down, it's like the wrist goes down first, and then I, like, pull it back, and the elbow goes down. Oh. How do you feel watching the replay?

Do you feel like, oh, I fell like a man, or do you feel, like, ashamed of it? It sounds kind of a manly fall. Yeah, and I fall. I'm long. This is a really good question because how a man trips and falls could truly make or break a whole relationship.

Or it can cause an ick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, well, here, watch me fall. Oh, that's a manly fall. Yeah, that was pretty good. Keep watching. Oh, you still a manly fall. Yeah, that was pretty good. Keep watching. Oh, you still gave the rose. Wait, was that the fall that broke your arms?

Yeah. What? I know, but I didn't even feel that much pain until the next day. It was really specific little bones that broke. Also, I've been working out since then for anyone watching. I was getting roasted for my dad bod on that one. No, but dad bods are it. I don't know.

What's the goal physique-wise? Are you trying to get? Honestly, I didn't really care because I had a girlfriend. You just kind of stop caring. Give up. And I get enough cardio from touring. But then that video dropped and i saw someone call me dad bod so i uh now i just you know i do like the jail workout stuff what's the

jail workout it's just like stuff you can do with minimal like in a hotel dumbbells yeah it was i mean he's at our hotel room or uh on like our our uh what do you i don't know it's not a porch it's not a balcony it's like our al-anai around the pool the main little outdoor place at my house i kind of but it's like just wait what were the three misdemeanors uh criminal trespassing in georgia okay criminal trespassing in Georgia. Twice? Again. Same place? No. It was a lake house and a tire store. Oh, two very different places. Wow, okay.

And they're both, like both of them, they're long stories and I've told them before. But both times I kind of got finessed into just that wrong place, wrong time. Iowa, I was at a formal for a sorority it was at u of i u iowa state okay and um my sister went there no she went to which is the hawkeyes not that one um and i uh this guy called my friend uh rachel slur and i beat him up and i so i got an assault charge and we both went to jail together,

me and the guy that I beat up. And then I got a lawyer. He didn't show up for court, and he ended up with an assault charge for getting a beat. And I got my charge in Iowa is not a misdemeanor. It's just a petty something or other. It's creating a raucous noise. Wow.

And I have illegal dumping in Minnesota. Wait, what is illegal dumping? It was because I was, there was this girl we didn't like in high school and we would throw melons at her driveway every weekend. Oh, I thought it was what I would do, which is like when there's no, like, toilet paper? No.

Putting trash in other people's. Because mine is full. And I'm like, okay like okay well there's his empty i guess kind of is illegal dumping i don't know they were trying to get charges with vandalism and the cops were like y'all are crazy so they just did wait i want to go back to sad nostalgia because it made me think of this recurring dream that i have like basically once a month sometimes more frequently than that and it's always I it's like the morning of the last day of school of senior year and I'm like picking out my outfit and packing my lunch and just getting ready for the last day of high school I have no idea why

it's not stressful it's a very pleasant and happy dream and do you guys have any recurring dreams or do you have any idea what that means or what are your recurring dreams i've never had a recurring dream ever and never and i have i have a lot of dreams that i remember every night and i elucid dream a lot honestly i have most of my dreams are just like my normal life it's gotten to a point where my dreams and the lucid dreams I have that are very realistic. I have to, when I, when I remember things, I have to think about whether it was a dream or real life. And there's been times where like, I'll say something to a friend, like, remember this?

And it was actually from a dream. Wait, never happened. I want to do like a sleep study on you to see if like maybe you're not like hitting uh maybe there's no separation between your dreamland and real life because like the only difference really right it's like when they say like you hit REM sleep you know they say like your heart rate drops and everything drops your blood pressure drops when you get to like stay like a stage four of sleep but when you hit REM sleep which is like your your eyes your rapid eye movement into dreaming they your blood pressure goes up your heart rate goes up it's basically like you're fully awake I kissed a dude one time that was laying next to me

because in my dream I was with a girl did you do you sleep with my homie no uh I don't sleep okay wait a second wait repeat what you just said I was just I was dreaming um I mean I don't sleep a lot. Okay. Wait a second. Wait, repeat what you just said. I was just, I was dreaming. I mean, I don't know. Girlfriends in the past have told me that I'll just like talk and say random things or I'll hug them and like, you know, little things like really quick. But there was this time where I was, I let my homie sleep in my bed with me and I kissed him on the forehead. It's pretty cute.

That is super cute though. What did he do? He was just like, hi, man. He didn't kiss you back? What's up? Good morning. It was Baby No Money. He's a good friend of mine. Shout out to him. Oh, yeah. Rapper. Sleep studies. My dad

was a really well-known insomnia specialist. Was he at the Mayo Clinic? That is why I grew up in rochester he ran the sleep program he what yeah oh oh can we get him on our show yeah but he was balling out and and he helped invent rumble strips which is the cool thing on the side of the road what are rumble strips it's like when people fall asleep at the wheel right you go off the road and just bum bum bum bum yeah really wow and what did you learn from him about like insomnia and i mean this is fascinating because i love anything sleep

study related yeah so unfortunately i developed i actually have like a little bit of insomnia i developed it after like he died when i was 16 and when I was like 20 I started getting it um I feel like that's him like you know me from up above but uh he wrote a book actually that's it I have that on my in my room oh that's so cool wow so do you feel like how have you been able to cure your insomnia or you still have it um I've gotten better i've kind of figured out like what a lot of times i'll just randomly get it's not i don't even know it's insomnia i'll just get kind of manic and creative and excited yes at night and then i'll like not be able to sleep and i just kind of embrace it and if i'm still up at 6 a.m i just take an adderall and

power through what a life i actually did that yesterday so no i'm not like i slept last night but the night before okay when you do that are you like i failed my father i didn't sleep at all like no no not at all i get so much work done because no one can fucking text me or anything and i'm just doing all i think i read a lot i could probably have my music in those nights do you know why your dad was like drawn to sleep? Did he ever tell you or talk about it? That's a good question. So my dad was born in Switzerland and grew up in a small village in Switzerland and came

to the U S with no money when he was 20. Wow. And. Is your mom also Swiss? And he's just smart as fuck. I don't know. I don't really know. I think he just kind of came up.

He, he, my mom, no, my mom is, don't really know. I think he just kind of came up. My mom, no. My mom is his second wife, and she grew up in Rochester, Minnesota. Same as me. She's so sweet. She's still out here. Did you know a lot of Finnish people in Minnesota? Because that's what we are. We're Finnish?

Yeah. Honestly, never mind. I like Finnish people. I'm only half. I toured there a couple times. In Finland? It was in the winter and the sun goes down so early. My antidepressant at the time was not approved in Europe. It was only approved in the US and Canada. They blocked it at the border so I was withdrawing.

I had to perform and of my... That sucks. And I had to perform. And it was four days straight. It was Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland. With no sunshine. And the sun would set at like three. Oh my God. That was a rough week. I'm sorry my people failed you.

I know. I mean, I have seasonal depression pretty bad. So like come November is when I basically... Come November. Come November. pretty bad so like come november is when i basically come come november come november we gotta start come november instead of no not november you know come november is usually when i turn into like a pumpkin like i just it feels it just feels like i'm depressed i feel like october is when you turn into a pumpkin but you become in november november is still pumpkin adjacent, though, because of Thanksgiving.

Don't we? Aren't pumpkins still around? Yeah, yeah. What are those called? Pumpkin pie is what it's called. Yes. No, those like mini pumpkins that are the decoration. Oh, the gourds.

Gourds. Yeah, gourds. Thank you. I knew there was a reason I didn't remember that word. It's absolutely horrible. It's all right. Shout out to gourds. I like gourds. Thank you. I knew there was a reason I didn't remember that word. It's absolutely horrible. It's all right. Shout out to gourds. I like gourds.

It's so interesting. Your life is like, there are a couple of people that I meet that I call them the internationals. And it's usually when they have a parent that's grown up somewhere. Kind of like me, right? Where it's like the most insane stories happen when you have a parent who somehow like found their way over here. And it's so interesting. You come from such pedigree. Like your dad being this sleep scientist, basically.

At freaking Mayo Clinic. Yeah. Like that's insane. It's wild because his family grew up super poor. I finally went to the house that he grew up in and checked it out. And they had a rough childhood. In Switzerland? In Switzerland. He's just

a smart guy and came and he studied at the University of Chicago. And he's a professor at Dartmouth. He was balling. Peter Harry. Do you have siblings that are, do you have any full siblings? No. Really? Yeah. Me too. So my, when I

was born, my mom was 40 and my dad was 60. Oh, wow. Similar, right? Your dad was how old? Only Theo Vaughn beats me in that. Only Theo Vaughn beats me too. So where are you at? My dad had me, I think, in his early 60s.

But then my mom, you have me beat there because my mom was in her early 20s. What? Kind of creepy. Oh. Creepy. What do you mean? Creepy. Is it creepy? Do you know your dad do you know your dad is it creepy or is it cool no my dad okay so my dad was like a bit of like a playboy nepo baby who made his way to the philippines what does the second word mean nepo

baby what is that like when he comes from money okay and then what has ties to switzerland so all my cousins are actually from switzerland on his side of the family, like Geneva and that area. But he was a playboy, ended up in the Philippines, got himself a young wife in his late 60s. And my mom came from abject poverty and she was like, cute foreigner. And so they made me and my sister. There is something crazy. Did they raise you together? They did. And she was with him when he had no money left. Were they in love? She still wears his wedding ring and she's been with my stepdad for 20 years and I feel so bad for him

Yeah, that's so sweet. I would accept that. I would if I was the stepdad I would accept that He has his moments of non-acceptance. I mean, that would hurt. He's like, bitch, I've been with you 22 years. But she wears his wedding ring too, right? No. Oh. She wears no jewelry of his at all. That's funny to be in a relationship with someone and be like, I'm actually still married to my dead husband.

Yeah. And you're just kind of like the guy who's here. And who would have been 100 years old this August. I still love him more than you. It's so weird to me. Yeah, your dad's older than my dad. But your mom was 40. Yeah.

They make weird ones when, you know, like you, me, Josh Peck, Theo Vaughn. They make weird ones? Yeah. Like, I think that, I mean, special and weird at the same time. A lot of my best friends have old parents uh not i guess aside from the the being foreign part but old parents you know they have more time to you know treat their kids and teach them things and i don't know parents do but for how long that window of time is like the clock is ticking like i watched you know my dad die very slowly but obviously i was like all right he's not gonna last that much

longer i mean i kind of want to have kids when i'm old because then it's like i feel like i became a lot better at life when my dad died like i just you know i had to accept that i'm a like this is how shit goes you know and all everything else with my parents being old, they taught me a lot. And then I became a man sooner than most people do. I do feel like, so I have an older dad as well, not like you guys, but he was 45 when they had me. And I've always felt like, I mean, obviously that's all all I've known but I've always liked that because I did feel like my parents were more mature they're from a different generation than my most of my friends parents and I just kind of made me feel a little different than everyone else and

like you said they have more time like if your dad no offense but like if your dad is just some like schlub in his 30s or 20s it's like that's your dad he's like an idiot but i do have an old like a man who's like lived through life like that i think is more valuable there was something kind i was i do remember being a little bit embarrassed when my old dad with white hair would pick me up from elementary school and everyone else's parents was like you know young and spry and they'd be like lali your grandpa's here and i wouldn wouldn't say, no, that's my dad. I wouldn't correct them. Oh, the grandpa thing happened to me a lot too.

Yeah. How did you feel about that? But your dad, your mom is Filipino. Yeah, my mom's Filipino, yeah. So my dad had a strong accent. Your dad didn't have an accent. Well, he had the preferred accent, which is that of a Westerner in the Philippines.

Do you know what I mean? Oh, because you went to school in the philippines yeah i went to school yeah they like that they like that they're like yeah they they revere like whiteness and foreign anything western i don't like that oh so many people do that i hate it makes me feel weird it makes me feel weird um i love it i'm just kidding i just had to wait but did you have that same kind of like oh like my dad's so old when you were younger? Oh, I loved him too much. He was just like. Oh, that's so sweet.

Really? Yeah, he was just too cool. And my friends liked him. He was, we called him Pater. His name's Peter, but we call him Pater, you know. Make little jokes about like his Swiss German. He's Swiss German, not Swiss French. Geneva's where the, I mean mean they're rich in zurich honestly

switzerland is just rich yeah in general but um he's not and i don't know he just he repped switzerland hard and now i feel guilty for kind of like shunning my old decrepit father no i think that's so cute that i was like that's not my dad that's's my grandpa. Yeah. Oh, you said that. Well, yeah. I mean, I just, I didn't want anyone to know that, like, my dad was like a dinosaur because everyone else's parents. And then here comes my mom with a six pack. She's just fucking the fittest bitch on earth and next to my dad. And they're like, who are those two people standing next to each other? And I just wouldn't, I would freeze.

I didn't want to say that's my dad and that's my mom as like a man looking at that situation I mean I probably wouldn't feel the same way when I'm that would I when I was that age I'd be like yo he's balling he's doing something right when I first you're right when I first moved to LA I like always had car problems and like was just always getting into like fender benders and stuff. Where is this about to go? The problem was that she drove like a 79 curl. 2001. I got rid of it two years ago. Don't worry.

But I was once like I had this issue with my car. I forgot which specific one it was. Probably the battery died or something. And I was talking. I don't know what specific car it was. I was on the phone with triple a and i guess like my dad was linked to the account and like he i think i was also calling my dad and then he called triple basically then like triple a called me and they were like we were like fixing the issue and then at the end of the call they're like we think you need to call your grandfather he's really worried about you and i was like i

don't have a grandfather i'm like oh my dad you want to tell that whole story just for the grandfather worth it oh yes i was just talking about this with dave like i we relate now you're a part of us now you're part of the old dad club after no but okay i he was like i say basically i realized like my um strategy in life and conversation and podcast is just like i'll say something stupid and then someone else will make it funny and so that's what just happened so thank you um i've never personally understood like grandparents being involved with people's lives so much i've never had that I don't know if you have

no me either all my grandparents died before I was three same so I only knew well actually no I had a grandpa for a very short part

of my early years and a grandma for the same but my dad's side obviously not because they would have been you know 200 years old my dad's parents were born

yeah born in the 1800s same what? because my dad was born my dad was born in 93 your dad was born 1924 crazy well your dad was born when 1993 i mean i mean i was like wow young young dad 1933 oh like right in the middle of the depression yeah but it was in switzerland but right before

world war ii so and when he was in elementary school, they were housing British soldiers in his gymnasium. Oh. Because Switzerland was neutral, but they wanted the L.S. to come up. I have another drink, water. Are you trying to conceal that you're having alcohol? Yeah, I'm drinking beer. What did we get?

What is it? You give it to me in these weird cups and i was i was all right cool not bad you give me a double cup though that's cool for rappers why double cup yeah have you heard the term before no have you heard of a double cup no what does it mean it means you're drinking lean oh what does that i don't know why like you they advertise it lean uh cough syrup codeine or oh yeah it's something i feel like you would i i fear you ever trying because i feel like you would really enjoy it you do drugs i used to but then i had a baby and i was like yeah that's that's one of the reasons i don't

want to have a baby yet yeah i'm scared i feel like i've had a bit and I was like, yeah, that's that's one of the reasons I don't want to have a baby yet. Yeah, I'm scared. I feel like I've had a bit like I was just with my friend who has three kids and he also grows weed and he has to like plan his hide times around his kids. And I don't know. It's just like it's kind of cute. I'm so, so, so, starkly different than my mom. You are? Like, so opposite in every single way possible. And I think that's just, like, it's not even because I want to be.

I think my factory settings just kind of were towards my dad. Like, kind of a little bit nuts, more adventurous. That could change, though, if you have a kid. Because I feel like I've always been more like my dad and then since having the baby i feel more like my mom so i could see that changing i think i think i do fold clothes like my mom like precision it's precision okay oh yeah yeah yeah like no one you'll never be better there's a there's one thing that i'm sure of is that either of you or no one in this room can ever air fold like me okay it's just a flex.

I know it's not an important life skill. It's pretty sick. I don't even know what that means, but I'm hyped. It's basically, you take a t-shirt, you don't need the board to make perfect corners and perfect symmetry on the entire stacked shirt. That's pretty awesome. I also sort of think the hottest a girl can be like you have

like it's like okay yes she has everything that like a hot girl should have right but then if you add on to that package she can fold well and like knows how to vacuum and dust and like clean a toilet like that's the ultimate woman i think cooking is what men really want no you think they want cooking but you also want a like a woman that cleans the house i think i feel like all women just kind of do i've never seen a messy woman meat duster yeah yeah no i've never been in an apartment of a girl that wasn't already super really yeah no i was a total slob i'm changing that now like now i'm like i just like vacuum every other day and it's like just a pastime that i've taken on but no i was definitely a messy girl for a long time past time yeah i've never actually full-time lived with a girlfriend

or anything but i love when my roommates get girlfriends because the house gets cleaner you know girls come around food starts getting made that's better than whatever the dudes would make it's just so many wins you would not like it if one of your roommates was dating me because i would just like make everything worse the vibes would be way off i'm sure yeah i can't i mean you bring a baby around that might be kind of annoying but i say some funny shit but you've never lived with a girl I've lived with girls just not like a significant other

oh okay is that like a choice or just something that hasn't happened I guess the only two girls that I really would've actually lived with were kind of long distance

and it didn't make sense at the time I almost had a girl move in with me but I didn't how do you think you would've fared if she did move in

yeah well we broke up now and we don't like each other I mean we we're good but we we realize we're just not meant for each other it would have i'm glad that we broke up separate like in separate places rather than kicking her out of my house after years of fine print contracts and getting ripped off by overpriced wireless providers if

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with them yeah i feel like that's so outdated now but people still do it that's crazy never i have a my communities yeah yeah close close friends from from New York They've been together 13 years They're married They don't live in the same home Well that's just But they like Go back and forth Yeah

But they still have their own places They prefer it that way It works out for them Okay you know what I have friends You know what If they both have their own place And they still hang out all the time

Then yeah But like long distance or something I don't know I don't like that at all I don't like that one bit But I don't like that one bit. But I'm also the kind of person that like, if we've been on three dates, I'm like, let's look, why aren't we living together? Like the best part of three days.

I should essentially eat this banana. Three dates. Yeah. Wow. I just think the best part of a relationship is like going to bed together and waking up together. I really like sleepovers. So I it's like almost a waste if you're Going if you're separating, I don't know what's what's troubling for me is that I've never had a boyfriend

I didn't live with I've lived with some the pure opposite. Wow. Yeah, you're the opposite We're like right when you start dating you guys. Yeah since age of 17. So we're the same then yeah I haven't she moved in with every single boy you've ever been with? Anyone who would allow it, yeah. Wow. Yeah. You start with like, oh, this drawer is empty. Hmm, I'll put my things here.

Like, oh, is that an extra key? Like, just for safety, I should keep it, you know? I personally don't mind the long distance stuff. But, I mean, I'm in a particular situation, you know, I travel a lot for work and I need to focus really hard to get, you know, stay relevant, get my music done and do everything. So basically when I have a girlfriend, it'll usually be, I won't see them for three or four weeks at a time.

And then we hang out for, I i don't know a week and it's just all my attention's on her which is kind of nice and then i feel like you know when you know your friends that you don't see all the time you don't argue with them as much yeah like i kind of like it there's more special when you're yeah yeah there's a sweetness to like each time you reunite i think because i'm i'm in a long distance relationship and I have been in a lot of long distance relationships. Where are they at? Hawaii.

Hawaii? Yeah. I hear the H. That's a cool place. Do you go there a lot? Weren't you just there like last year? I've been there a few times, yeah. I was there last year.

I think we were trying to have you on Tiger Belly when you were out there. That's right. Weren't you there? Yeah. Yeah, we were going to do it in Hawaii. Yeah. Wow, that would have been cool.

But you were all the way in the North Shore and couldn't make it happen. Let me come hang out with you and your man or what? Come hang out with me and my man. You're welcome to. Can I come too? You can come. We'll take you guys fishing. We'll do some...

I don't want to do that. Oh, that's... What do you want to do, Esther? Eat poke? No no but you get bad allergies there remember oh yeah oh now you get to use that every time i want to come to hawaii you get to say you can't come because you have allergies but you said that you were like i can't come back here i can't breathe it was really bad actually you know i want everyone to know that if you haven't been to hawaii it's not overrated it's so cool i agree don't just stay in honolulu i i feel like the people there. I mean it might have been because I was there touring as a famous rapper whatever but everyone was so fucking nice to me and

It felt like the Midwest but with good weather Everyone was very welcoming. There's a pro surfer guy who was like, you know, come stay at my house and Jimmy O'Brien very welcoming there's a pro surfer guy who just was like yo come stay at my house and who was it jimmy o'brien all right oh he's the the surfer of surfers um and he invited me to his wedding and stuff it's cute did you guys already know each other or was it well this was after this is when we were together i mean not together when we were rumors back when we were dating we were in hawaii at the same time, apparently. I was staying with him. Oh. And he's in a music video of mine. And he taught me how to surf.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Esther, I low-key think you would be an incredible surfer. Because you're a dancer. I can't swim. Oh, that's right. You're trying to kill me. And it's getting obvious.

No. You want this podcast all to yourself. You're just going to push me off on a wave. I'll never be seen again. Dibs. Dibs on your spot. But no, I really do think this because you're so coordinated and you're a dancer. It's just that we would have to put little wings on you.

Wings? Oh, yeah, floaties. The floaties. Oh, yeah, I'll go in with floaties. Once a dancer, always a dancer. Thank you. And you can dance on a surfboard. And I'm telling you, you'd be a great longboarder because they do these little tricks and they

like hang on the edge of the front of the board and i just that's true i don't approve of long boards no why not it's hurt i've gotten hurt on them so many times they don't have brakes and there's no water to fall on and there's cars and i don't know oh you're talking about street long boards what others have a long oh long surfboards. Oh, okay, yeah. The thing, my main issue with the ocean, other than that I can't swim, is it's always cold. Like, surfing looks so cold to me.

But you're a guy, so you probably don't get cold. That's not, like, an issue. You know what? Guys do get cold. But I know what you mean. I mean, I am like much warmer than any woman that, you know, than women. Which doesn't make sense because we're technically more insulated. Right.

We have a higher body fat percentage. We have wombs and stuff. Yeah. Our anatomy would suggest that we would be warmer always. But for some reason, you're right. Or I think we're just both anemic. Oh, no, no. we would be warmer always but for some reason you're right or i think we're just both anemic oh no no i think all women all women always like when we cuddle they say that i'm a heat box or whatever i need to warm them up or whatever and then they and then i make them too warm and they

go away um i mean like i'm talking like scoot over like a foot like it's Like that's not really sad. But y'all like the whole, wow, the shower's really warm. It's freaky. Like after my girl takes a shower and then I get in, I'll scream, I'll jump out. It's like way too hot. I do wonder why women are really the mother of dragons though in that we can handle the amount of like shower heat. You don't take really

really hot showers i take really really hot baths i like hot tubs but something about the really hot showers i feel like it's the best i think it's three showers a day what i used to do that i used to do that for the purpose of like not even a hygiene thing it's just i like standing in like a hot hot shower and just dissociating completely. Shows are great, yeah. And forgetting who I am, where I am, where I have to be. Have you ever done acid in the shower? No, but I definitely have complex PTSD. Duh.

Just because it has the same letters as LSD or what? Some SD. SD. A different kind of SD. PTSD from LSD or from showers or just a new topic? No, it's just from like childhood, like lots of like sexual diddling and like. How did this come up? I was talking about taking showers.

Well, the reason that I take three showers a day is because it's soothing for my body to. It's a way for me to sort of like dissociate. Get rid of your trauma. Yeah. Wash it away. Yeah, with a hot me to sort of like dissociate and yeah. Wash it away. Yeah, with a hot, hot heat and like scald my skin. I like to burn my skin too, actually. Now that I think about it.

Wait, but you do acid in the shower? Well, I just did, one time when I was on acid, I spent like an hour in the shower and it was great. And I had, it's- You could've drowned. I had Tom, no. Not on acid. No?

No, that's like, that's another cocktail. Like you're talking like me. You're talking lean and Xanax and stuff. No? No, that's another cocktail. You're talking like me. You're talking lean and Xanax and stuff. Yeah, the things that put you down. Acid doesn't put you down. Okay. Also, in a shower, it's not a bath. You couldn't drown in a shower.

Drowning in a shower would be such a sad way to die. It'd be such an embarrassing way to die. I feel like Esther probably could and would. Yeah, you're just like oh I you're like oh I'm on acid oh what's that and then you're like looking up and your mouth is open and the water's coming in and you drown it seems easy to me

I don't know so I was in college and it was in a shared like bathroom in the dorms and we just got back from a hike or whatever some cute outdoorsy stuff on acid and I went in the shower and i i turned on my phone and i started playing it's not unusual by tom jones okay that's cool and it was on repeat and i just loved it so i spent an hour listening to that it sounds only two minutes long so i played

50 times probably wait that's not good math that's not good math. That's not good math. 30 times. And I was just loving it. I was looking at the water and becoming the water. It's a different experience if you are swimming. I have done mushrooms, but I haven't actually dove and been in the ocean on mushrooms. But apparently you don't know up from down sometimes. So when you dive down, it actually becomes very scary. Yes, I've heard of this. This is so, that's the scariest thing I've ever heard of.

I think you guys are thinking about other drugs. No, this is mushrooms. No, I thought that. You guys do a lot of mushrooms to not know up from down. Yeah, this is a lot of mushrooms. Not me personally, but someone who is an actual like avid ocean person. Is this like a Theo, like Theo Vaughn or like dirt nasty type thing? Cause I know they do like ayahuasca.

No, no, no, not like that. But I wanted to ask you like how long this acid lasts. And at some point are you like, okay, I'm over it.

It's been X amount of time. I haven't done it in a while. I did it mostly like in high school and college. Um, if you have real LSD, it lasts for 12 hours. The first time I ever did it, uh, it was midnight. And my friends and I, four of us all decided to, it lasts for 12 hours. The first time I ever did it, it was midnight.

And my friends and I, four of us, all decided to try it for the first time. And it was the best drug experience I ever had. I don't know. It was probably just actual real LSD where most of the stuff you get is some... Yeah. What's your current drug protocol? Beer during podcasts.

Beer, Adderall. drug protocol um beer during podcasts beer um adderall um i take uh i have prescribed xanax you know it's not really that exciting just kind of like normal person things uh i like dmt though dmt is fun oh i've heard that's like so intense isn't it people freak out about it it's so intense but it doesn't last long right but it doesn't feel long in your brain if you really if you really go hard and uh what do they call it blast off yeah um you can i've had that yeah where it feels like a long time but it also doesn't feel like a long time it's it's similar to dreaming you should try dmt we should do dmt we should all do dmt leave your baby at home, Esther. We're doing DMT. No, my baby's coming with.

Yeah. Baby, you're... She? She would love it. I do wonder that about myself, because, like, I'm already a little, like, screwy up there. Like, I'm always afraid to do your stuff. Just the thing is, with LSD and shrooms,

they last a long time time so if you start getting into a bad mental state yeah you can't get out of it but with dmt it's over in a few minutes yeah i mean maybe it's my mom wants to do it type type shit and is it like life changing i'll tell you no people make a big deal out it it. It's not life changing. Oh, okay. I mean, it depends on what you believe, I guess. I just believe that your brain can come up with cool stuff. And it's basically dreaming. It just makes you dream hard. Oh, wait.

Then it's a perfect one for me. You're right. That's what I'm saying. It makes you dream like times 10 really quick. Oh, I love dreaming. Yeah. Exactly. That's why I was saying it.

I like dreaming. I know. But you know how people always say like, you know, sleep when That's why I was saying it. I like dreaming. I know, but you know how people always say, like, you know, sleep when you die? I never understood that. I'm like, sleeping is so amazing for me. It's this completely separate life I get to live. So maybe DMT is my next adventure.

It is intense. Have you done psychedelics? Yeah, mushrooms. Okay. But never like full blast, like macro dose. Like just enough for me to, you know, see nature and for things to sparkle. But things did not sparkle when I did a little bit of mushrooms. For me, it was like I think everyone around me is trying to kill me.

And like, yeah, I although there was a fun. It was fun. But I just had like one scary Uber ride. But I think it maybe was actually scary. But that's more situational. Being in an Uber on mushrooms is not ideal. Yeah. It kind of magnifies everything.

Yeah. I wouldn't. And also it's like what I don't like doing when I'm on mushrooms is looking at myself in the mirror or anything indoors. Like I have to be out moving my body and that stuff. One time. Do you want to do DMT? Should I get some?

Yeah. Can we do it? We can do DMT all right cool yeah tell your story hit the plug um but um wait no i i i was gonna say something about one ketamine ketamine so i did ketamine once and once only and it was under the guidance of a therapist and and a doctor you do it like the real medical way yeah i was like really medical and it was under the guidance of a therapist and a doctor you do it like the real medical way yeah i went like really medical and it was a really great experience but dude those 90 minutes were horror wait really yes i was terrified i thought i was dying like i was like oh

this is the death problem only give you a lot though they do they give you a lot to make it so it's well yeah what was the so you did like a make it so it's, well, yeah. What was the, so you did like a, the shot. So it happens like it, it, it, within 45 seconds, you're like blasted off.

And then it was so terrifying for me. Like you're in a K hole. Oh, I was in a K. And then they just ask you questions or something, or they just, no, you just go through what you go through.

So like, initially I was like, I'm coming in with these intentions. I was like, Bobby and I had just broken up. So I was like, I want to like feel better. He'll not be so blah, blah, blah. And it took me to none of those places.

It was like you, it was just this terrifying 90 minute experience of like going into like dark cave after dark cave. But then after that, because when I got out of it, I was like, that was terrible. Like I, there were nothing, nothing profound came out of it. But then the days after that, it was like, it zapped my anxiety and like took it away for the next day. Yeah. I would, I would be interested in trying it. I had a roommate who was really into ketamine, so I've done it a number of times. And I don't know.

I wouldn't, I wouldn't recommend anyone watching to try ketamine. It's not that cool. Why? I wouldn't recommend it. Like, so is it bad recreationally it's yeah it's just it's just it makes you dumb and and slow and that's exactly what it does it puts you down because it like you have like a tranquilizer yeah tranquilizer so you cannot get up from your session you can't walk around anything. If you have like the perfect amount of ketamine, it can feel good.

But on my birthday this past, a few months ago, I was in Nashville. I was with the homie and he had some. And I was like, ah, I might as well try it again. And right before my birthday dinner, and I hit the ketamine and went to dinner with like all these people at this fancy restaurant. And it's loud as hell in there. and went to dinner with like all these people at this fancy restaurant, it's loud as hell in there. And I'm just, you know, they're, they, everybody, I mean, I told them

once I was just talking weird and not acting normal, but you just, you just, I don't know. You just kind of get dumb for like an hour. You do get dumb. What you explained is like my worst fear because you're stuck for 90 minutes. To me, that's like being on a roller coaster, you can't get off.

That's exactly how I felt. Where I feel like i'd rather jump to my death and stay on it like my fear when i was little was always that if i did drugs like things would be so out of control i'd just kill myself like oh wow that was just any drug yeah cigarettes fuck it affects everyone differently some people can do K and be just fine same with coke like it's some people can do it and be cool yeah we've known

a few to just you know casually hit the K wait so are you on like dating apps like what's your dating game like it's funny actually I'm glad that this is being asked now and someone can see it I usually just date It's funny. What is it like to be a guy? I'm glad that this is being asked now and someone can see it.

I usually just date, you know, I usually only people that I just meet, you know, or in person, I mean. I've had a girlfriend that's been in my DMs and we just got along well. Or I mean, I met shows. Are you a girlfriend guy? Like, you like being in a relationship? It's hard for me to really get, like if i really love a girl yeah but i've only had two of those and how long did each last two years each oh so like substantial amount yeah honestly i feel like for like today like that's really impressive it seems like the gen z's there's just a lot of people of people who've never been in relationships and stuff like that. Don't you think?

Isn't that? Does that feel accurate? Yeah, I think you guys are struggling with the situationship thing. I'm struggling? Not you. You're just Gen Z in general. Since the invention of the situationship, I... What's a situationship?

What was the original question? Oh, dating apps. Oh, sorry. Real quick. Raya, I've tried to apply five times. what's a situation ship what was the original question oh dating apps oh sorry real quick raya i've tried to apply five times i wanted to try it yeah and i've had machine gun kelly brendan uri uh i've had so many people recommend me that are popping and you know you get to get like referred and i never get approved and and some guy who works, I found some guy who works at Raya on Instagram. I'm blocked by him. I did something to somebody to piss him off.

And someone at Raya doesn't like me. Raya, if you're watching this, let me know if that's true or not. Interesting. A higher up at Raya has. Like, I proved my existence as young gravy being hit him whatever all my my producers and people that i literally you know introduced to to this world are on there and i'm five times declined you know i have a really good recommendation streak like anyone that i've ever like vouched for on raya like even if they're like nobodies they get

on there so like let me try I mean I'm off Raya now but I can maybe like log in temporarily and like you want to try to go for round six you want to recommend me yeah because I was thinking maybe a girl oh there was plenty of girls too oh there were okay yeah yeah the oh wow for her name lynn spears what's her first name jamie jamie lynn spears recommended me wow okay yeah she she should have done it it should her recommendation should have been it you know yeah no i guarantee that there's i guarantee there's yeah it's that's a funny story that but i guarantee there's a there's somebody there that doesn't like me. Jamie Lynn Spears. I don't know the truth on it, but there's a myth or a claim that she ran over her cats with her Tesla.

And she said that it was because of the self-driving. And I like Jamie. I don't know how to feel about it. You know what? Fuck Tesla. The Tesla self-drove itself over the cars i mean over the cats but uh that's what was what her claim was and i have a song called whip a tesla and she started using my song in her campaigns against tesla um and honestly she didn't kill her cats that is devastating if i accidentally rolled over any of my pets i I would sue the fuck out of Tesla. And I'd have you do all the paperwork.

Why me? Because you're just litigation princess. What kind of car do you drive? You call me litigation princess? Yeah, you're really good at like, you know. Cairning out? Yeah. I have a German car.

I have an Audi. So would you sue Audi if you ran over your cat? I mean, but it's not self-driving. But she wasn't self-driving. I mean, I don't think it's self-driving. It doesn't have that mode. I don't know the story, but it happened twice, so. It happened twice to her?

You know what? Look it up. I could be wrong. I have heard of this, though. Like, well. Jamie Lynn Spears' cat, Tesla. What I have heard, though, like well Jamie Lynn Spears cat Tesla what I have heard though which would contradict

this story is that because the Teslas don't make the car start sound that the animals don't know to like run away oh that makes sense

and so then they stay there oh because it's very quiet you're smart that sounds like she went to U of I U of I sucks checks out

where'd you go after that I dropped out after two and a half years and moved here to do stand up yeah okay it says that um jamie lynn spears thinks elon musk owes her at least a couple of cats um that's all we need to know sit right there you can't owe people cats though because it's like those are the cats you love. If you guys catch any good details in

there let us know. Wait you just got a dog recently. I did. Yeah. I saw that. So we were having sort of a pregame at

my I wasn't even there I was in Nashville. There was a pregame occurring at my house and my friend Vaughn who's handsome and sitting over there

called me and showed me this little puppy because a girl found him in a dumpster. He was alone in a dumpster. A little black dog. They guessed he was eight weeks old or something and he needed a home. He didn't have a microchip or anything so we took him in. His name's Hendrix. That's so cute. call him henny or hendrix and um he's uh did he travel with you i don't know no no no he stays at home with with king while i travel um i was gonna say look him up but he doesn't have an internet presence yet i hate when people have pets with the internet like with that you know I mean the fact that we can never get to the level of like Marshall May Rogan

like we'll never have the same amount of followers we'll never get that much attention Joe Rogan's golden retriever has clout has so much clout he's a happy boy he's a really happy boy I love I do love seeing updates

from Marshall Rogan. Wait, I'm going to show you guys. Oh, that is a cutie. He's like a mini German Shepherd. Hey, what's his mix? German Shepherd mixed with Australian Shepherd and Rottweiler. Yeah, I was going to say. He has rotty markings.

Rotty looks. Look up cattle shepherd. I think that's what it's called. Yeah, yeah. He's like that, but then he has a Rottweiler drip. So cute. Wait, so what are, like, what are you, you're single, you're out in the world. What are we looking for?

Like, what are we manifesting for? Good question. Girl connection here. i don't know i go i go through phases of thinking i need to find a wife soon and get it popping and sometimes i see my friends that are older that are single that are finding dating and finding new girls i'm like maybe i don't have to um but i want to make it clear clear to the public that i'm not just a milf guy because a lot of people think that and they don't you know that's they think that i have they don't have a chance um i was gonna say have y'all heard about the woman

that um fell in love with the dolphin why are you pointing at at me? It's not me. It's not her. I know I look like her, but yes, I remember. A woman who fell in love with a dolphin and then they both did acid and then they had sex and then they committed suicide. What?

The dolphin committed suicide. The dolphin. Because they can drown themselves, right? So she fell in love with a dolphin and then they were doing, there was like a psychiatrist, psychologist, and they were doing tests on dolphins.

It's always the psychiatrist. Margaret Howe, love it. Yeah. And that's a funded project. It was a dolphin named Peter. A relationship. I love how they call it an unusual relationship. Like, just say they had sex.

It did say sexual on there after. How do you have sex with a dolphin? They have dicks. Yeah, they have dicks. They're mammals. Dolphins have penis. Yeah, and if you're a good enough swimmer, like, you could too be having sex with dolphins. You know what I've always wondered? Do birds have dicks? Yeah, they have dicks. They're mammals. Dolphins have penises? Yeah, and if you're a good enough swimmer, you could too be having sex with dolphins.

You know what I've always wondered? Do birds have dicks? They have... Oh, you know what? Ducks have dicks. And they're rapists. Yeah, they rape. They rape.

And so do otters. You know what otters do? They used to be one of my favorite animals. They're so cute. I know, but you know what they do? Ducks rape. I'll just put that out there. You'll have 10 otters literally drown a female almost

to have intercourse with her. It's so fucked up, but ducks are equally as bad. Ducks are fucked up. Have you ever heard of a dolphin rape cave? What's a dolphin rape cave? I don't know if it's a myth. I think it maybe happened one time, but somebody, there was dolphins that ganged up on a swimmer

and brought them into a cave and then raped them and killed them. You know what? Here's the thing I will say about dolphins. They've gone. I'm sorry. We're getting dark. It's getting dark over here. They've gone such a great rap over the years because like we've just like dolphins this, dolphins that.

They can be really cruel. And somehow I believe that story. Because they're smart enough. Like the more intelligence you have, the more chance there is that someone's going to be fucked up. My cousin Maggie was raped by a dog. But she's a dog but she's a dog your cousin's a dog and she was pregnant they found out because she was pregnant wait a second your cousin maggie has a dog no my cousin maggie was raped by a dog but she is a dog also okay my cousin maggie is a dog your cousin is a dog okay my cousin Maggie is a dog

your cousin's a dog and she was pregnant why is it why how my how anyone is your cousin it's your uncle's child actually if you had a conversation with my uncle you would question whether or not he was a person i never thought about that but they're not related wait this is so weird because um that's like step step cousin because he's not related to a dog he didn't birth him but then does this tie back into the fact that you wanted you were a dog when you were younger? Oh, that I think dogs are equal to humans, yeah. Sexually?

No. Well, if they want to be, but not for my choice. Can I tell you something about dogs, about their sexual habits that does not sound fun? But I do think that if this happened with humans, we'd be a lot smarter about who we have sex with and who we choose to have sex with. When dogs copulate, they're... What does copulate mean? Like have sex, intercourse.

Why did you have to say that word this time? Because it's more... There's a lot of words for sex. But that's a deep cut. When they penetrate, their penis engorges. And so when they... Engorges? Engorges. I thought you said the penis penis and gorges. And so when they, and gorges, I thought you said the penis and the gorges.

I was like that. So the penis gets really big inside the vaginal canal and they get stuck for about 10 to 15 minutes. And I saw this growing up. Cause again, third world country and no one, no dogs are neutered. We have a stray population.

So it's like all the dogs were stuck together. Stuck together. Stuck together physically. Like you couldn't separate the dogs because the penis was stuck in the vagina for 15 minutes. I do think that if this happened with humans, that we'd be a lot more careful about who we have sex with because there's that mandatory 15 minutes

of being stuck together and like, okay, so what? Like, how's your day? Like you would have to have that 15 minutes of being stuck together and like, okay, so what? Like, how's your day? Like you would have to have that 15 minutes of aftercare conversation. I think a lot of animals have it better than us. Like they have better sex, pre-sex rituals, like the birds that dance and stuff.

Oh, the birds, yeah. You know, where you have to really put in some effort to get. Yeah, but then or the prey mantis where after she fucks him she eats him and i tested this out once in a jar and she really ate the shit out of him you put two of them in a jar and they fucked and you watched that is weird you bought two mantises and put them in there made them fuck and then yeah because i just like i i love that That should be illegal. You love what?

I had like tarantulas. There was a time, I like animals. And this sounds so bad. She rescues birds. Girls with like scary pets are rare, you know. They weren't pets. It's rare for them to be hot. You pulled it off. Girls that have like tarantulas and snakes and stuff, it's usually not a good.

It's not a good it's not a good not a good sign yeah no it's more like out of like a morbid curiosity because you would see it a lot in like hollywood films like there was this movie called praying mantis where she might have been like a hallmark movie where she kills men after she like fucks them that doesn't sound like a hallmark movie i swear maybe you're right also you've never sounded more foreign than when you said hollywood films it's because i am an international kid what can i say esther okay so our producer stella sent us this tiktok that says the best way to find a mate because you're single is to find five non-negotiables that are serious and two serious

non-negotiables which is probably more of like their value system what how they how they do things okay and then two must-haves in terms of physical traits it's like i want my kids to go to public school yeah oh who they are as people like i can't smoke but that's a belief Oh, that's like a non-negative like like I'm think about being a parent like I want my kid I'm not gonna like I don't want you to tell me more kids are going to a private school or homeschool Okay, are you leading with that though? Like? Question well that was a a test of what kind of answer okay, okay, but y'all said yes or no But maybe Esther's right.

I think any belief that you really need your partner, it could be anything. If it's something that you need your partner to also share. Oh, I thought it was more like a character thing, like who they were, their constitution. I think it's a non-negotiable about their relationship. Okay, okay, got it. Well, like for me, a non-negotiable,

like I wouldn't lead with it but i know it is one deep inside it's like you can't i can't be with someone that has religion like i don't i don't have religion and i just i would never feel deeply connected to someone if they had god in their lives maybe because i'm jealous i mean they could find a agree to disagree type situation where we just don't talk. Eh, I have to. But what about like an avid, like someone who's like Esther,

like I totally get where you're coming from, or like hey, but I go to church every Sunday and this is a big part of my life, but I'm not dragging you in, still no? No, because we're never gonna be on that same deep spiritual page. I kind of feel you, because yeah, you can't like,

if you don't believe the same stuff, that's kind of. Yeah, like then I'm always gonna be like. A lot of things would come up and that would be weird yeah what about you or like like weddings that are super super religion heavy or kind of yes a weird vibe yeah i want to be able to have my friends over all the time you know like i've had girlfriends where you know they're always your homies are always around you don't like Yeah, because I'm kind of like a hermit. Like, I'm super, like, private at home. And it's like, there's time for, like, friends and get-togethers.

Like, I'm all for it. But I need, my home is very much my space. Like, I can't have people just, like, roaming around. I'm too, what's the, extroverted? I just need to have people around me. Like, my wedding. I mean, I don't have, you know, like you, I don't have any family.

My friends are my family, so it's like, I like to have them around. And like, my besties are my neighbors and stuff. I pictured something more like a party scene every night for some reason, but no, just having them around. My house currently in LA is ran through. Like it is, there's always gonna be like three or four people that come through every day,

but they're good friends and it's productive. I think that's sweet. A revolving door kind of thing. That I do like. My mom doesn't have to ask permission to come over. Neither does my sister. Neither do my really close friends. They can just stop by. They probably have a key to my place.

That stuff. Be able to host parties and stuff and have a big wedding. I just like fun things. They key to my place. Like that stuff. Be able to like host parties and stuff and have like a big wedding. I just like fun things, you know? Okay. They need to be fun. So five non-negotiables. What are your other, Esther, that you're like absolutely not?

Well, loving dogs. Okay, that's a big one for me. Like that's an easy one right there. I was a cat guy until we found Hendrix. Interesting. You can be both, you know? Yeah, I mean, yeah. I don't get why people have to yeah yeah you can totally i just was kind of preferring cats until but if someone was like oh no i don't like dogs i don't like that would i'd be like how can we ever that's family yeah fundamentally we could never um i couldn't really respect you if you don't have empathy for animals.

For me, I think jealousy. If they have any type of jealousy that's irrational, I guess. I love to be irrationally jealous. And not. It's gotten you far. For me, it's important to just have 100% trust, tell everything, you know, always be completely straight up. And then you don't have to worry about, like, even questioning it. I've, like, most of my, like, I had, my last girlfriend was a bottle girl. She's really attractive.

And she worked in Miami at, like, these rich clubs. And she'd get hit on every night. I'm a rapper. And I do, it's like we're doing the same thing. But I trust you. And I'm not worried about it. But then, I mean, another relationship got ruined for the sort of the same reason. The very same thing.

Yeah, I mean, that to me is not even like a non-negotiable, it's sort of just a turnoff. It's a turnoff when someone is like overly possessive or just irrational or create stories in their head when I'm just, you know, at home picking my nose or whatever. Like that to me is like, it's overall just like an ick. I can't have that in my life. That shit is exhausting.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you have, what other like non-negotiables? I think those are two really good ones. The animal thing is for sure a big one for me. I don't know where this falls, but like it's, I don't think I could ever be with someone who cannot swim. Oh, that feels really awkwardly attack. I can swim just so you know you can't swim and i have

had a crush on her in the past are you scared of it or i am scared yeah of trying and learning yeah would you learn would you learn for her um would you learn for her so so if they if you fall in love and then they learn to swim. I just probably would have to look away while they're learning until they get to, you know, it's just, it's not even that it's, you know, icks are not something you choose, right? Like it is just when I see someone struggling in the water, I just don't. You can't respect them. Correlate that with. Sexuality. Sexuality. Masculinity. Yeah. don't you can't respect correlate that with um sexuality sexuality masculinity and yeah because

i you know i was a competitive swimmer and it's i am a diver i'm a free diver i i my life is so adjacent to the ocean like it's hard for me to connect with someone who doesn't like even know how to doggy paddle i mean i've seen i feel you know because i i'm big on skiing and traveling and going places and i had a girl that we were talking about our future and I was like over and on ski trips We're gonna go, you know do crazy shit Skydiving in Hawaii and all this stuff and she's like no no, that's not really my vibe You and your boys can go do that be a boys trip. It's like no I want my bitch there You know, I mean, I want to be there doing it with you but i have an alt so that's kind

of like the swimming thing yeah a little bit i have an alt pitch to that though because i love like having different interests than the person and then like like dave like he goes and he golfs with his guy friends he goes and he plays poker with his guy friends like i don't think he wants me there and i don't want to be there. So I do think... There's got to be a medium, though. Yeah, okay, that's true. But the way I view swimming is it's a life skill. And I think Theo Vaughn has said this in another podcast.

Swimming? Yeah, he was like, look, the world is 70% water. It has to be a life skill. And I know not everyone has access to learn to swim programs, but I want to change that. I want to give free clinics to anyone who wants adults and kids. But if you're an adult who really does not know how to swim, and I will teach you. But please, let's get there.

Some people grow up in the projects and there's no water. If you're not willing to try skiing or something, that was a big turn off. We have Hannah Burner on right after this pod, and she picked up skiing. She's right there. What's up? But we'll get into it. But I remember you talking, Hannah,

about picking up skiing for your man and absolutely hating it. Wait, she's going like this. Like, don't say that. Oh, okay, sorry. I'm just saying I agree. Oh. Don't ski for a man.

It's dangerous. She said don't ski for a man. It's dangerous. If I was your man, I would help. I would help you ski well. I would protect you. I'm really good at skiing. It's like one of the weird things I'm really good at.

I mean, look, your dad is from Switzerland if you didn't Yeah you're right If you didn't have Stad stories like I would be What was the second thing you said? That's where they ski up there right in Stad Stad? It's in Switzerland right G-S-T-A-A that's where my dad had his chalet and stuff My dad skied there

You did have his chalet in Switzerland? Well he comes from money Okay okay that sounds it does sound like a place. I haven't heard of that exact one, but. Oh, okay. I think that's where rich people ski. Zermatt is where a lot of them go. Yes.

That too. Zermatt, I don't know if I can say it. We have to wrap up, but really quick, did you guys talk about the two must-haves physically? Physical? Yeah. We already know I'm a serial uggo chaser. I've dated gnomes. So, I've dated fucking garden gnomes.

So no, I don't have any like hard and fast like rules about like physicality. I don't either, but I do like a big nose. You like a big nose? Yeah. That's cool. I like that. I like a cute smile. And it doesn't have to be perfect teeth.

But sometimes it's better when they have like a little bit. agree something a little snaggle toothy yeah yeah i think they like rocket cute and you know if it matches the eyes that's that's really important for me yeah i think that veneers are are i'm not on their way out but they should be i know but it's like you're right like i love just natural fucked up teeth. Even no teeth. I'll take no teeth. That's fine. I've had no teeth. You would love my baby.

No, with no teeth. It's so crazy. My baby has no teeth. I'm just like, wow, I'm staring at your gums. Anyway. I also kind of, kind of would want to be with someone that's not really similar to me racially so that I have a more diverse baby. I don't want to have just a that's not really similar to me racially so that i have a more diverse baby i don't want to have just a fucking bunch of blonde kids don't take this the wrong way

but that's the exact same esther what did i say two days ago i was like what are what is the one thing that terrifies me when really blonde people procreate yeah they look the same no i get it i was dating her that was really blonde for a while and I was scared of being in public. I mean, I would flex her around in public because, you know,

we would have a good time but I read some like Reddit threads about like, oh, I hate blonde couples that are, I'm like, damn. And I think it's because

I watched too much Game of Thrones. It was a, you know, Cersei Lannister and Jaime Lannister and the incest and the blonde and like the Joffreys of the world I think that's what

swayed my head but yes there is something kind of like jarring when I see like two very like Nordic there's like things that I'm missing genetically like tanness you know um that's about it but

uh no I want my kids you know I want to find a wife who can make my kids tan. Yeah. And other cool things. Kalilah. Thank you. We have to wrap up, but this has been quite a wild ride. I feel like we learned a lot about each other today.

Yeah, it was good. Yeah, more about weird shit than normal shit. Yeah, yeah. Thank you for coming on our show. Where can people find you and get tickets to come see your tour? If you look up Young Gravy with no O, you guys will probably spell it right in the title. I'll send you the links and stuff, but I'm touring August and September.

And you have an album coming out? I have an album coming out. It's Country Trap, and, you know know it's fire it's gravy it's gravy it's it's my kind of music if you've ever heard my music but with a little country i'm excited for that and i'm touring with a band and stuff it's gonna be awesome wow and the album comes out june 28th comes uh the next thing that comes out june 28th which is called lone ranger white claw with shania Twain is already out. I saw that. Holy shit, that's so cool.

I watched her documentary and I was in tears. She is really cool, really tight. She's on the album a few times, Zac Brown. What an icon. She's got a co-web solo. I learned so much about her. She is such a fucking icon. She's cool.

Well, slugs out there, thank you so much for listening and thank you, Young Gravy. We hope that you'll come back and be with us again. And we'll see you guys next week with a brand new episode. Yay.