Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Kate Berlant Teaches us How To be Healthy

Episode Date: August 27, 2024

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It's Kate Berlant. Oh, thank you. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited. If I was your abusive boyfriend, like the first thing I would do is I would corner you and I'd be like, no one else knows how funny you are except for me. Like they think they know, but they don't know.

Oh my God. I'm the only one who knows just how special you are. It feels so good. I really do feel loved by you. I texted you this morning. I was excited and you said you had a sleepover. No, a dream. A dream.

That we had a sleepover. Take it back. That you had a dream that we'd had a sleepover, which is the sweetest thing in the world. You make me really hyper, too. I get really excited. I scream with laughter. You FaceTimed me the other day.

Best mood I've had in years. I was elated after. It was just so cozy. Yeah. We've known each other a long time. It's been a minute here, sister girl. I know. Oh my god.

Also, I get to really indulge in you listening to POOG, your podcast with Jacqueline Novak. Thank you. You guys are so good together. I really do feel like it's us hanging out, and I know everyone says that and it's embarrassing, but it's just, I get my fix. And what I love, because I'm controlling, is I love having a friend that has a podcast so that I can control how we hang out. Yeah. is I love having a friend that has a podcast so that I can control how we hang out. How do you feel though about someone

who's an actual friend listening to you that intently? I actually, I love it. I love attention. Some of my close friends don't listen to my podcast. I go, huh, seems weird. Nine years of my life. Or my work, yeah. No, I love it.

I think it's fun. Whenever you reach out with a question or a follow-up to the podcast, I love it. Does think it's fun when you whenever you reach out with it with a question or a follow-up to the podcast I love it. This is your partner listen to your podcast a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah They just actually texted me and they were like I was at the gym laughing listening to the podcast was like I know Dave does right listen to this occasionally Occasionally he picks he goes based on the guest., when there's suspicion that you might have said something. Exactly, yeah.

Yeah, or when there's a viral clip of me talking about my exes, he'll tune into that episode. Of course. He gets a little, but then he'll also be like, oh, you should have posted that on Instagram too. And I'm like, what do you want? Which of these do you want?

What are, I'm really curious, like what are your dinners like lately? Like what are you cooking? What are you eating? Cause you're glowing. Stop. No, I can't. It's so funny you bring up cooking because

I'd say the last three days I'm having a cooking renaissance. Explain every minute of it. Salmon. Ah! Ah! Ah! Rice. Rice. No, I, I, something happens in the last three days. I think I know what it is. Okay. So first of all, I love it coming in. I was like, I don't want to talk about this. And then here I am minute two, bringing it up. I did, today's a huge day for me because I'm finally feeling better

because I did come down with a syndrome. It's my first syndrome, which is really exciting. Congrats. To finally have a syndrome to talk about. I froze my eggs like every other whore in town. And I came down with, it's called ovarian hypostimulation syndrome. I had a mild case.

That's why I can laugh and have fun. And truly it was like, it was shitty for like six days, really like more like four days of being like, but it's amazing when you're in the throes of something like that, you're like, what's my new life now? Yeah. I was like, I'm chronically ill. And I really thought I was just bloated to be clear too.

This was after the egg retrieval. Yeah, and by the way, I don't like saying bloat because bloat goes, who cares, distended, distension. Wild distension, couldn't see my feet, standing up out of bed the morning, looking down, can't see my vagina or my feet. By the way, medically too, distended is like the correct term for okay.

Thank you, yes. Something is going on. And my breathing was affected. That's what was scary, I couldn't breathe properly, I had to go in there like, yeah, you have a lot of fluid, you have a lot of swelling, you're gonna be okay.

I was nauseous. You know, it was just like stressful. Could barely walk. I've never even. Could stand. I've never heard of this. I've never been upright. At all.

And I like, we all know everyone in our, everyone's getting their eggs. I've never heard. It happens when, sometimes when people have a lot of eggs. That's all I'm gonna say, cause it's not a competition. I know, but. Lots of people have families with one egg.

But can we please do an egg number reveal? Yeah, what is the reveal? Only because backstage, and I don't offer up the numbers, because also as we all know, you can freeze eggs and then, you know, what the hell, until you have a baby in your arms, right? And who knows if I want one?

Yeah, you heard it? That's what was also weird, was going through this being an agony cry and going, I'm not even 100% sure I want kids. Like this is just kind of, you know, like going through it with that. That is very interesting to me because I almost, again, I'm gonna be really forward.

Do you see me as a mother? I'm not even going there yet, even though I do, but I'm not saying that yet. Good, leave with the fact that you do. What I am saying is, your actions are speaking louder than your words, my friend. Well, that's true. Because you're saying you're not sure, but your actions,

that's all, that's all. I completely, yeah, I hear you. Anyways, how many fricking eggs did you get? So they retrieved 56. That's so freakish. That's actually disgusting. I didn't know about the number. And then I put 49 more mature enough to freeze.

So, okay, see this is interesting here because I really went into the process not knowing because when I had my first ultrasound, I was like, oh, they were like, I had 27 follicles and my doctor's very conservative and her face didn't change. She never gave me like, yay! Which I appreciate, because also you never know.

It's just too scary to celebrate or be, it's just not worth it. But yeah, I guess I'm really fertile. You're an egg farm. Yeah, I'm a fucking frog. And that's why it hurt. That's why it was so, in the last few days, I was being bumps in a car.

I was like ow, ow. I was harvesting, weighing down by eggs. I hurt. I hurt. But this is why I want to know what you're eating. Because I'm like, what is making you have so many eggs? I mean, it's aside from the fertility. Yeah, my fertility mug filled with electrolytes.

Wait, what electrolytes are you adding? OK, so I've down to my last box of element, which I want to move off of because it's not as clean as I wish it were. Same, I agree. I was making a lot of home. I was doing a lot of, here it comes, Celtic salt. Of course.

Splash of apple cider vinegar, juice of a whole lemon, and then an entire liter of sparkling Mountain Valley. It's really good. Wow. I started to crave it. You know when you get thirsty and you start drinking, you're like, you like need it. You're like, like I was animalistically

taking down that drink. I have a new one for you to try. What? Since you're off the L-line. Superior. Superior one. Superior or something. It's like an electric light.

Oh, I thought that was like a supermarket. No, this is like on Amazon. Superior? Yeah, yeah, something like that. It's called Magna. What's that? Magna? And so they're basically magnesium packets, but depending on like your needs, for instance,

if you, it's like magnesium three and eight for like, you know, my talent. I just got some of that for Dave because he saw a TikTok about it. Magnesium? No, magnesium 3 and 8. Yeah. What's that? So basically magnesium is, you're the expert,

so you will take over this conversation, but there's like a thousand different ones and they all do something. Oxide, citrate. Yeah. Yes, yeah. Magsite, magox. I should say, I know the oxide's been a friend.

For me it's the magsite, the citrate. Oh. Yeah, that gets the stuff moving. Mag oxide and mag citrate were the ones that made me, helped me poop when I was pregnant. But you're on the glycinate now. But now glycinate relaxes me at night and it relaxes your muscles and helps you sleep.

But the magnesium-3-enate is about your brain. What does it do? Does it work? Light it up. What do you mean? Does it work? Light it up. What do you mean? I mean, it's supposed to give you like calm focus. Okay, I need that. But now they have the packets.

They're called Magna Packets. Okay, I need that. I'm gonna look this up. Very excited about it. They just launched like two weeks ago. So I'm like, ooh, new thing to try. Whoa, it's a fresh launch. Oh, is it risk?

Oh. Wait for the lawsuits to pass first. By the way. And then get pass first. By the way. And then get in there. By the way. Two weeks, won't be trying it yet. Yeah. Well, this company that gave me the tattoos

that don't go away. What? Do you don't know about this? No. I got four. Versus the tattoo that does go away? I got four tattoos that were supposed to go away within eight months, eight to 15 months.

Wait, wait, I remember agreeing with this and going, how fun. They never went away. One of which is my name, by the way. No. The company I just found out, cause someone somewhere was like, oh, I know my friend used to work for them. Someone in my mommy and me class,

they're like, yeah, they just went out of business. Wait, cause I remember this, it was like, it's gonna last several months. Yeah, and I was like, this is perfect, it's so fun. They won't go away. Am I still on you? Yes, I still have your, I got her name as a joke. It's taking so long to fade, which I'm fine with.

I love you. How long have you had it on? Three and a half years. Yeah, so- Didn't think you were gonna say that, yeah. Okay. Yeah, okay. Wait, so they went under?

They're no longer, they don't exist anymore. Like the website's gone, domain. So I can't even like, sue, I can't reach out. Oh honey, look at me. You can sue. I don't wanna hear this, I can't sue anymore. Like the website's gone, domain. So I can't even like sue, I can't reach out. Oh honey, look at me. You can sue. I don't wanna hear this, I can't sue. Yes you can. Litigation please.

Yeah, no, I'm like, did it seep into my unborn child? Like I don't know where the ink is going, whatever. But I'm glad that you like to wait it out until things, smart. I have no tattoos. That's, I used to be you. I think I'm gonna get my ears, I still don't, I. Smart. I have no tattoos. I used to be you. I think I'm gonna get my ears,

I still don't, I don't have my ears pierced. You don't get your ears pierced either? I know, it's kind of strange, zero body modification. Depending on what you call modification. At this point, like maybe just like keep it that way. Why not? Well, cause then I got kind of obsessed that if I did the holes, like energy would escape me

and I would change or something. I feel like that's a fact, that is true. But my mom is turning 80 and she doesn't have her ears pierced so I think we're gonna do it together. Oh my gosh. But then now I fear. She's crying, she's not. Now I fear that the energy will.

Don't, don't. If you sense that I won't do it, I'm not kidding. I feel like you shouldn't. Stop. Do you have abilities? Are you tapped in? I am a little witchy, yes. No, there's no energy escaping when you fucking pierce your ears.

Well, we don't know. What do you think? Well, I've always kind of felt like, wait, does it keep something flowing in me? I just think that, like, when things- Wait, now I'm scared. Sew mine up. Can you sew them up?

It's too, babe, it's too late. It's been leaking up for years. I have like six. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I have a lot. Mine were forced on me as a baby. Yeah, mine were a baby. Cause everyone was like, look at that cute fat boy.

And my mom was like, all right, we're getting her ears pierced. Everyone thinks Ace is a boy too, cause of her name and I always dress her in blue. Cause she looks good in blue. Oh my God. I still haven't met her. Can't wait.

You know, you need to. Guess what I'm starting to get excited for? What? My fifties. Say more. Not your forties. You're skipping you need to. Guess what I'm starting to get excited for? What? My 50s. Say more. Not your 40s. You're skipping them? Straight to your 50s.

Wait, okay. I just think 50s. Things will really pop off. Like we're talking not Perry, but already menopausal. No. No. Is that? That's around the time.

I haven't done the math. I don't mean hormonally. I just meant like fun-wise. Yeah. Early, when does perimenopause start? Like early 50s? It can happen. I mean, some women start to perimenopause in like their late 30s, but usually like late

40s, right? Okay. Or 45 to 55? 45 seems young. That feels way too young. I mean, I round up, so I'm already 45. Yeah, for as eggy as you are, you probably will never go into it.

Oh my God. Say eggy. My mother is eternally young. I can't believe your mom is 80. Yeah. You had me at 42. 43, I don't know, I can't do the math. Yeah.

Wow. And you're like, so you truly are on the fence, you're like not sure. I wouldn't say as far as on the fence, I'm more on the side of that I'd want to, but I just feel like several years ago, I was like, oh, I don't have to do this. I've never been like, I'm a mom, I have to,

like that I've never had. And I did realize like years ago, I was like, oh, I actually think I'm not gonna do this and I actually can see I'll have a fulfilling life without kids. Like, I don't feel like this is what I have to do. I felt like that too. Things change. After I had a miscarriage, I was definitely like, oh,

maybe I don't want this. Maybe this is better. And Dave and I did have conversations of like, he's always been like, we can have kids, we cannot have kids. Either way, it will be great. Like, he's been like, we can have kids, we cannot have kids. Either way, it will be great. He's been good about that.

So I definitely don't wanna be the person that's like, you have to do it, cause I don't think that's true. But I do a little bit project onto you because I see myself in you. Sometimes we have to be pushed. And I just, I know that I, yeah. It's so toxic to force your friend into having kids,

but that is what I want to do. You're not, I just froze my eggs. I just would be so excited and I think like, will you have my baby? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, for sure. Have another one and sync the pregnancies. Let's sidebar.

And then we'll make a buck. I was thinking about, imagine like I get pregnant just to make money, like getting pregnant just for the free stuff. What do they call those? Content babies? Oh yeah. Yeah, content babies.

I absolutely am in support of that. Never had more deals on Instagram than when I got pregnant. Didn't see it coming. Did not expect it, but it is a real thing. Who's reaching out, SNOO? That's the only thing? Sadly, liquid death. I know.

I saw that. I don't know why. But okay, wow, I'm like overflowing with thoughts because you're here. You're asking what I'm cooking. Oh, that's right. You're cooking Renaissance. Just a couple of days. I think because I was feeling so shitty and I had suddenly, that's a couple of days getting

energy. I'm like, I want to cook. So so shitty, and then I had suddenly, that's a couple days getting energy, I'm like, I wanna cook, so, this is boring, I'm sorry, I have no story here. As I'm talking, I'm like, well I have, but you know, I did just, sometimes I'm intimidated by certain foods, I mean, I'm mostly plant-based, I'd say I don't cook meat in my house really.

Wait, what? My partner is vegan, but flexible so they're out of town for the week so let's just say I bought shrimp, I bought salmon, a lot of cottage cheese at the house, a lot of cheddar at the house, a lot of Parmesan at the house this week. So I'm going crazy I did a salmon. I'm gonna tell you exactly what it was because goddamn it was good. You know I didn't even cut up garlic, garlic powder, paprika, salt, pepper, olive oil, on the salmon, 400 degrees, 12 minutes,

on all fours, barking like a seal, it was so good. Okay, it was so good. What else is on the plate? Broccolini, tossed with olive oil, salt and pepper, some Parmesan on top. Wow. That was very simple, Dami. I just wasn't, but today, you know what I did?

I did a full like TikTok recipe of I blended cottage cheese with two eggs to make one and then you bake it into like a wrap. Have you done that? Cottage cheese is really having a big- For the last three years. My mom has been eating cottage cheese since 1904. So it's like, I grew up with cottage cheese in the home.

But it used to be kind of like a food we would scoff at, right? Totally. But then when I was hardcore, it was like gross mom and dad food. Well, it is disgusting, objectively. But then you get into it. You really do get into it.

But I got into it before it was cool again, because I was hardcore Atkins. No, the Atkins diet. Well, the protein, honey. You're so hungry, you're gonna think cottage cheese is like the greatest thing ever because you're so fucking, you're starving for anything basically.

I wish. I go up and down on dairy. I'm back full on it. No, no, full fat dairy. So I'm reading this book, Real Food for Fertility. I don't know why I'm reading it. By the way, I think I own it and haven't cracked it.

I think I bought it before doing egg freezing and didn't crack it. Well, you're already following it, so you're fine. But it's like, because I sort of believe if food is good for your fertility, it's good for your overall health, whatever. But like, full fat dairy. Yeah, of course. Yes. That's where it's at.

Of course. What year is it? Are you still drinking skimmed? Low fat Danon. Low fat Danimal. Go Gert. That's where it's at. Of course. What year is it? Yeah. Are you still drinking skim? Low fat Danon, low fat Danimal. Go Gert. Wait, and lately you've been talking about liver. Yeah, liver is really good for fertility

and for overall health. Of course, organs, like that's what everyone's saying. Okay, how do I get the health benefits of eating organs, but not eating organs? Models do like jerky, little jerky girl. Organ jerky? You can get organ jerky, probably a fucking arrow one. Isn't that, probably had like a pet food store too.

They have a lot of those like. Yeah, it's a dog chew, I just, yeah. Do you eat organs? No, chicken liver toast at the Spotted Pig, which doesn't exist anymore,'s one of my favorite foods. Oh no, I hate when that happens. Where are you getting your salmon? Because I'm...

Oh, I had salmon trauma the other day actually. Say it. I'm not gonna say where I went. Who's saying that loud? It's just a small business that I love. But I was driving, I was gonna go get salmon at McCall's or Salmonica Seafood. And I was like, whatever.

I go to this place. Do you have fresh fish? No, we only have frozen salmon cuts. It's in like a nice place. I go, okay. Wait, was it? Yeah. I get that salmon.

Which where? The frozen? Listen to me. One frozen filet of salmon. So much. $25, farmed frozen. Oh, no farm? And I go, I'm going to Lassons. You know, I said, Imed, frozen. I heard $25. Oh, no farm?

And I go, I'm going to Lassens. You know, I said, I'm going to leave. I'm not going to do this. But then they had me, a migraine was coming on. I had to pee. I go, fine, I'll just buy it. Two filets, $50. I heard my mother's voice going, what are you doing?

Think about your ancestors. This is not what we came here for. But OK, a lot is coming up for me. It is good, okay, because you said you were having trauma. Why is it so good? Because it is frozen and it's farmed and I don't know why, but I keep buying it. Wait, farmed is not...

Farmed tastes good. They just look weird. You can buy farmed salmon, it's peak wild salmon season. This is late July. I'm struggling to find wild salmon in my farmer's market right now. Do you like oraking salmon? I think that's what this is that we got. No. Really? No, oraking is from New Zealand.

Oh. I would recommend this place on Ventura in Studio City called The Joint. Oh, yeah. You sent me that link. I need to go there. Yeah, and Chef Li Wei is like, I think the go-to fish guy of LA. And he does all of the dry-aged fish, I think for most of the higher end restaurants here, but he does like bento boxes, but you can get dry-aged like,

oracking salmon and all these other types of fish. And so it's called a joint. Here's my issue. First of all, what's dry aged? So you know how you- It's dry? Don't embarrass yourself. Okay, go ahead.

You know how you can dry age a steak, but basically what it does when you dry age fish, it makes it so buttery good. So it doesn't mean it's like jerky. No, not at all. It almost makes it like a elevated version of just what you would have as like a fresh sashimi. It makes it 10 times better.

Okay, let me tell you my salmon trauma. It's my turn. So we have been getting that frozen salmon you're talking about that's way too expensive. Wait, where is it from? And... No way. So are we really really should we just say we like the salmon should we just say where it's from sure it's from cookbook we can believe it later if you have no listen and I love them if they're watching hi you know I love you but it is even I think the people who

own that restaurant plays with go yeah this, this is really expensive. Yeah, it's very expensive, but it is good. Anyway, so I'm going, this is too expensive. We eat salmon a lot in our home, and I see on TikTok, sorry to trigger you. I have access to it through other modes. People are buying the bags of wild frozen salmon at Costco. So I go, oh, here we go. I'm already wild frozen salmon at Costco. So I go, here we go. I'm already eating frozen salmon.

I'm dancing on the surface. I've been in a parasite loop the last couple of days. What do you mean? Just scared of parasites. And apparently salmon's a big carrier of them. But don't they cook off? For you, I freeze them. With frozen kind of helps with the parasites.

OK, anyways, they're disgusting. It was so fishy and bad. Oh wait, really? Yeah, it did not taste good at all. It was like, I'm like, oh, I have no sustainable way to eat this salmon lifestyle. I'd love to solve both of your salmon woes. Yeah, let's let the Asian girl speak.

My partner is, he was a commercial fisherman, he was also a spear fisherman. But he does go to Alaska every year. What? And what we can do maybe sometime next summer, cause I think that I won't be making, we won't be making a trip out there this summer, is we can get a lot of salmon and then just like

send it back here and we can have salmon for a year. What? Can you imagine? And every time you prepare it, you cry, because it's such a direct, amazing way to get salmon. Wait, he gets it himself? Yeah. And then what, he's cutting it up,

but then you just freeze it, ship it. Yeah, so they do all the prep up there, and then they can just ship it to you. But it's the own salmon, the salmon that you've caught. That'd be amazing. Yeah. I was thinking that we can do that as a family unit. That's so cool, going on a big shipment.

Yeah. We're in. You're in. I'm in. Sockeye, what kind of salmon are you into? Whatever you tell me to get. OK. I don't know what to do.

My salmon intake has plummeted. Because of your new partner? Oh, that's right. Yeah. Just, I mean, now that I used to, I don't know. I wish I had been tracking my salmon more diligently the last 10 years. I have, I'm very new to salmon.

Like, I'm new to this. Yeah. Are you new to fish? Or where are you with shrimp? Yeah, currently I never. Never. I still haven't really. So shrimp, I had a shrimp revolution

about four years ago. I used to always think shrimp was gross. I looked at it and said, absolutely not. Yeah. I'm forgetting what shrimp cocktail changed my life, but everything changed for me. And a shrimp cocktail, a good shrimp cocktail will change your life.

Elanine Silverlake currently has my number one favorite shrimp cocktail. What's good about it? I don't know. First of all, the shrimp itself, huge, juicy, fresh, amazing. Oh nice. But they do tons of like,

it's just like oil, lemon, herbs. Like it's just really, and then, you know, the fabulous cocktail sauce. You get a nice spicy red homemade sauce. Lemon is so good. I was off lemon. I wish I had a tattoo of a lemon on my forehead. Like lemons only.

Lemon. It's all you need. So lemons, the period. Absolutely over limes. Absolutely. Lemon is so good because I had to be off of it during my pregnancy. Why?

Because my acid reflux was so bad that I couldn't have anything acidic. And now that I'm back on lemon, I wake up every morning in a good mood because I'm like, I can have lemon today and it just brightens my mouth. I can't imagine not having lemon. It was so sad. But okay, shrimp is really interesting. I'm going to go get that shrimp cocktail.

Shrimp's easy to make too. I bought some shrimp today to prepare tonight. You do eat shrimp then? I would. I'm open to it. I've just never, I'm really in an adventurous mode right now. I brought up liver. I know you're going to like the shrimp cocktail at L&E. I'm so curious because the concept of shrimp cocktail is so nasty to me, but I'm going to try it. No fishy flavor. It's just succulent meat.

The cooking paralysis that I'm in is... Had it for years. Salmon, Chicken thighs. Let's say on Sunday I've had that. Are you cooking chicken seriously? That's it. I don't know what else. But now you're saying shrimp. I've never brought chicken.

I've never cooked chicken maybe ever in my life. Maybe once in a slow cooker. I'm newer to it and it's... She taught me a chicken thigh recipe that I don't ever get it right, but I still do it and it's good. And I would love to bring you in on that if you'd ever be interested.

How are you cooking your chicken? Do you have a separate house for cooking chicken? Is it like keeping kosher times a hundred? No. Like how do you do? You have one house and chickens in there. That's correct. Here's a tip for your fish revolution

or this new love for fish is have a little like outdoor burner, cause you don't want to cook. Like take it from the Asians. Like we don't necessarily cook fish like inside. You're grilling. We're even just cooking the fish outside really. But then you get to cook the whole fish and without worrying about whether or not your clothes

are going to smell like it. I'm not there yet at a whole fish. You're not, okay. No, I'm still a white woman. I'm not Asian yet. I wanna be though. So, but I will cook you a whole fish. I'll cook you a whole fish

and let me know how the experience is for you and then we'll go from there. Would you eat fish eyes? The eye itself, no. Okay, now that's when you go eye first. Eye cheek, eye cheek. That's the combo. I, I'm not like, I cheek. That's the combo. I...

I'm not like... I wouldn't describe myself as an adventurous eater. Okay. There's really nothing I won't eat. I don't like uni. I don't love it. Yeah. But I've only had a bad... Maybe I've just had a bad uni experience. No, uni is a very specific taste. Like, I can see how people would not be into uni. But I'll kind of eat anything.

But like, I's, organ meat, like I sort of, my bristle. I absolutely bristle at that, but I'm trying, I wanna be different. Yeah. Do you ever like always wanna be something you're not? That's where I'm at. I really wanna show you a plate of my meal, what it looks like.

Yeah, I wanna see that too. Okay, talk amongst yourselves and I'll find the picture. and I want to do tonight turmeric bone broth rice. That sounds really good that shrimp tons of parsley Lemon salt and then I'm gonna do a fennel salad mandolin the fennel really really really thin This is so fucking house of Toronto olives chopped up Where do you get those? Any market. Pitted calcevitrano olives, chopped to chop.

In a jar or like? In a jar, drain the jar. Drain it. Pistachios, smashed up. Some Parmesan, I'm just thinking about, look at this, I'm just thinking about what I have in my fridge right now. I see this is like artistry. And then you know what I'm gonna do? I got some dates today.

Oh. On a cast iron, char them, cut them up, put those on top of the salad. So you're excusing me of having two kitchens for chicken. That's how I feel about the cast iron pan. How do you clean it? You don't clean it. You just.

I'm glad you're asking this. The Teflon industry launched a smear campaign against cast irons. And everyone else, they go, we got to make cast irons scary. We have to make people think they can't wash them. We have to make that seem like a crazy lifestyle. So they're going to come on over to our smooth cancerous hell items. And then they're going to feel safe and they're're gonna feel like it's a sterile environment. You don't have to be afraid of cast irons.

And here's the thing, yes, it's good to like season it, like have oil on it. You can wash a cast iron. You can put soap and a sponge on a cast iron. That's okay. You just don't wanna leave water on it. Dry it after and then you can put some oil. You can wash a cast iron.

We don't have to be afraid. You use soap on your cast iron. Yes. Go to the Staub website. I challenge you. Fancy cast irons. Go to Staub's website. How do I clean my cast iron?

They're gonna go, how do you think? Soap, water, and a sponge. It's really powerful marketing and it worked and infiltrated all of our mothers and we've absorbed it and now we're passing it along. The fear of the cast iron. I love a cast iron. I've never deviated from a cast iron.

You know why I got scared about cast iron? Somebody was like, it's infusing iron into your food. We don't want it. We don't want excess iron. But that's good. Yeah, that was the whole thing before. No, the whole thing is the iron ages you. Iron ages you.

Take the iron out of the skin. What? That's why people say people that donate blood, they live longer because they're getting rid of excess iron. I? That's why people say people that donate blood, they live longer, because they're getting rid of excess iron. I have no, I'm totally, this is why you can- Get the iron out. I'm literally like, no, I need my iron up.

Get the iron out. I'm anemic. I need iron. Oh yeah. So I'm okay with my cast iron infusing. It's just slightly more, just kind of put me over the hump a little bit of- But speaking of blood.

Here's my meal, Esther. What? Here. We don't care anymore? I care. What is this? This looks... Ew.

Ew, is that a fried fucking fish head? Yes. You're nasty. What else is that? What's that brown cream? Oh, it's poi. It's like, it's coconut. What is the green mush?

Oh, oh, oh, that's, um, that's a luau. It's taro leaves. You'd love it. I love taro. Yeah, yeah. You'd love it. I know it looks intense, but it's actually delicious. Can I see?

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and full safety information. Compounded medication is not required to and does not receive FDA review or approval, RX only. Okay, speaking of blood. Yeah. Did you guys, have you guys heard this? This is a very like POOG themed episode cause you're here and I'm so excited,

but like that when you menstruate in your menstrual blood, that's like how you get detox. That's how you detox yourself. Like that's the phthalates and the PFAS come out in your menstrual blood. And if you're a man or if you're someone that doesn't menstruate, you should donate blood. Stop four times a year to get your toxins out. So you're basically like bloodletting because bloodletting used to be a thing back in the day, right? Yeah, totally. But also, but it's your uterine, it's the lining. But the toxins are coming out. I mean, I believe that bleeding releases a lot.

Such as? Not getting into it. No, but bloodletting, I was thinking they put like slugs on you, and the idea was it would suck out the toxic blood. That's crazy though, I've never heard what you're saying. And I'll immediately adopt it as doctrine. But don't know if that's true.

New personality. My sister's dog needs to get blood transfused out of him or taken out of him four times a year because he has thrombocytopenia. So basically he has an abundance of red blood cells and it causes him to be sluggish. But he does like four times a year he gets it. And then when he's gone and done, he's like, you know,

just spright and happy and full of energy. So maybe. So this is, or maybe this is just like the donating blood corporation is trying to. Working its magic. Yes. I'm going to a naturopath tomorrow. 11 AM.

For anything specific? No. I made it because I was like, oh, when I was like, OHS, like fear. I was like, OK, someone who can help me regulate my hormones and everything. But I'm kind of like, I just love doctors. I do too.

So I'm like someone else for my. Wait, who is it? You don't have to say on air. You're gonna bleep it? You want me to? I don't know. I've never met her. Okay, I just went to the doctor.

No. No. Okay. Really? Everyone can hear but bleep it. I don't know why. Why does it have to be kept private? Gatekeeping?

I know. But it's expensive, whatever. I don't know how I feel about it yet, but I, after I had the baby, I had so much medical anxiety that I made so many doctor's appointments, I'm still having to cancel a bunch, but I went to see a naturopath

and I still haven't gotten my results yet. But I- Do blood work? I just got so much blood work though. Yeah. Can you just send over the blood work? How? Can you go to the stocker and say,

hey, send them my blood?? How? Can't you go to the stocker, hey send them my blood. You can. Okay great. Yeah, is there something specific you're looking for them to do for you? No, that's why I actually canceled the appointment a few weeks ago, because I was like, I don't want to spend more money, what am I doing?

But now I want to go. I have to say the attention my naturopath gave me was... It was what I've been looking for my whole life. It was like spending an hour with a doctor, a real doctor asking me every question I want to be asked. That was the same as like looking into your child's eyes for the first time. It was so beautiful. It was what I've always wanted, but didn't know...

Well, you know, exactly what I needed. Was she like, what's your... Because I went to this, like, healer man once once and he gave me a huge and he asked me questions No one's he was like, did you have braces? Okay, what year were you were you born vaginally? Wow, what did your mother have an epidural? Oh my god, you know breastfeed What makes you calm? He went on a crazy list. And it really was deeply affirming. Was he a Chinese medicine doctor?

No, he was a hot white guy. OK, so I know what makes this fun. I walked in, I go, I'm not going to him. Because the name was ambiguous. And then you go in, and it's an eight foot two model. And I was like, and he's like an eight foot two like model and I was like and he's like take the top off I did it prepositions yeah he actually made a reference to me I remember he said something he was like cuz I get migraines chronically it's

like hell and it was like well this medicine he's like well you'll you'll have to get off that for when you get pregnant And something about him like doming me being like because you're a woman bitch Yes, cuz normally I'd be like, I'm to you, you know But I was like, yeah, I guess you're right. Like something about it is I left Michael back How my Chinese medicine man is not that I might go back. Oh, my Chinese medicine man is not that, not as- I have an acupuncturist, who I love.

Yeah, my acupuncturist, yeah. Does it work? Should I do any of that? He's great. But the one thing that I found that discredited him had nothing to do with my appointments with him. He sent me an accidental text that I don't think was for me. Oh my God.

That was for a family member. What did it say? Obviously you're about to say. Make sure you don't forget to pick up corn dogs for the kids. Bleh! By the way, you can never go again because... Because he was giving me diet tips.

It's like, if you got those numbers scrambled, then you're in surgery putting the organ in the wrong spot. So it feels like an error, because you can't look him in the eye ever again. You can't make errors like that. Well, no, I just put him on such a pedestal of this man knows everything.

He's telling me, hey, your body needs hot foods. He's like getting an extra gallon of Roundup on the way home. Right. And so I read the text and I didn't even acknowledge it, but he basically, he likes corn dogs and his family eats corn dogs. And I was like, this is the man who's giving me advice on like, you know, so it was a little weird.

Maybe they're sweet oil free. Can I give an alternate angle? There's something even worse about make sure. Oh, that's what you, like what? There's something weird about make sure you get, can you get remembered again? By the way, for the kids or for you? Yeah.

You're getting not excited. Maybe. Make sure. Maybe you're putting for the kids or for you? Yeah. You're getting that excited. Maybe. Make sure. Maybe you're putting on the kids and you want a corn dog. I misrepresented him. The kids don't care. They'll forget instantly.

They don't need you to make sure. Yeah, we need to verbatim. I want a corn dog and a corn dog. ASAP. Ooh, a hot dog, Chicago style. Where can I get a really good Los Angeles hot dog, quick? Nowhere. Oh, on LA street dogs. No, see, no. No, see style. Where can I get a really good Los Angeles hot dog quick? Nowhere. Oh, on LA street dogs.

No, see, no. No, see, I want like a boot. I want to like go to a restaurant, have a cocktail. Oh, okay, okay. That I can't help you with. I really wanna have a Chicago hot dog with you. I know that sounds so gross of me.

Let's go. Wait, we can shred it with cheddar? Where are you from? No, I know where you're from. But no, there's no cheddar on a Chicago hot dog. Yeah, there is. No. No. where you're from. But no, there's no cheddar on a Chicago hot dog. Yeah, there is. No. No.

Chicago style has cheddar. No. Sauerkraut cheddar. Esther, I have something to make you feel better. He didn't say make sure. That makes me feel worse. He says, can you get corn dogs for the kids at the mall? Two potato corn dogs.

At the mall? Multiple texts to you. Yeah, see. And you didn't acknowledge it. Ew, I don't want to see it. I actually don't want to see it. It's so gross. You're fucking doctor or whatever.

Wait, do you swear by acupuncture? Do we need it? Literally, I'm going for my, I've only gone twice. I went years ago for headaches, but then didn't stick to it and just fell off. But I started seeing someone, I've gone twice, so I can't. But I'm taking the herbs. I don't know about you, but they're really hard to ingest,

but I like it, it makes me relax. Do you recommend colonoscopies? I've never had one. I thought you did. Colonic? That's what I meant. Oh my God, we had a colonoscopy conversation last week. Ooh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. That's so crazy. Not to add to your list of medical anxieties. What?

Bananas cause cancer? Wait, wait, wait. Don't fight it. Why is your stick? Why is your so straight? We've been doing this every week for four years. I've never. Oh my God.

I've never seen a banana like that. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I've never, oh my God. I've never seen a banana like that. I'm so scared.

The laughing is giving me a pain. Oh my God. Every week for four years. I've never. Oh my God. Why is it hurting? It's so sexual. This is a good, this is, this is good, right?

Can you turn it my way? Oh my God, Stella. I don't know. I don't know. I, it felt right to give you that one. That's so weird. The zero curvature. Look at that.

Oh my God, mine has it too. Mine's curved. Oh my God, wait, oh my God. I'm not worried that it's a heart attack because it's on my right side. Thank you for letting us know. But there is pain. I have my end.

It is really, really straight. Wait, what were you about to say? Something completely sad and unrelated to straight bananas. Oh, lord. No, but speaking of colonoscopies. Oh, no. What?

So this is about colon cancer and the rise of it. Yes. Oh, god. So basically, I feel like you maybe manifested this for me. What, you have colon cancer? No, but my sister got tested, the saliva test for like the BRCA gene.

Okay. So she doesn't have BRCA one or two, the breast cancer one. Yeah, I know what it is. But she has the CHK2, which ups your chances for colorectal cancer. So now we have to get screened like every five years. So we're gonna get the colonoscopy

probably more frequently. They're gonna make younger people do it now. Yeah, that makes sense. Because it used to be 45. I think 50 even. And now they're bringing it down. I'm fine with this. I know we had a really, really cryptic,

weird multiple conversations about colonoscopies. I still don't understand why they're bad. And I think they're fine. What do you mean bad? Colonic or colonoscopy? Colonoscopy where you're actually having to prep. Why do you mean bad? I know it's she. Who thinks it's bad? Colonic or colonoscopy? Colonoscopy, where you're actually having to prep for. I know it's shit. Who thinks it's bad?

Shit. What does bad mean? Here, I don't know either because Esther texts me the most cryptic texts late at night. No, you're such a fucking liar. I literally sent her a TikTok of this nurse practitioner on the Skinny Confidential podcast being like, if you're gonna be in the system and get a colonoscopy, like I would never get one.

And I go, and I just go, I freak out. I'm like, what is this? So I text my friend, Kaila. Be in the system? What the fuck does that mean? I text her a bunch of stuff, right? And I go, what would be so bad about a colonoscopy? She responds to everything but that question.

So in my head, I go, she knows something and she's not telling me. I don't. I don't, and also by the way- What did that person say though? to everything but that question. So in my head I go, she knows something and she's not telling me. I don't. I don't. And also by the way, she didn't. What did that person say though? She didn't give a reason.

That like nurse practitioner didn't give a reason either. But did you not say, did you not say, I guess it would be better to just get cold scoped in the office if you have access to that instead of a colonoscopy room. What's a colonoscope? So I have colitis, and so I've had both a colonoscopy. It's basically like inflammation.

It's sort of closer to my rectum, actually. It gets a little swollen, gets a little bleedy. Is it from anal? I'm not kidding. I swear to God, I asked this question and it's not. Okay. Because sometimes you can have, I guess, a herpetic area or source there that can cause some type of bleeding or whatever. It's not. Okay. Cause sometimes like you can have like, I guess a herpetic area or source there

that can cause some type of like bleeding or whatever. It's not that. Okay. It's more of like an autoimmune thing. Anyways. Hot. Dr. Teddy, who's my gastroenterologist. I was having a flare up. That's just a sexual name.

Dr. Teddy. Yeah. I know, I'm sure he doesn't like being called that, but that's how I refer to him. Okay. Great doctor. You have a nickname for your anal doctor? But, you know, one of my appointments, I was like complaining about, hey, like I'm having another flare-up, I'm getting them more frequently.

There's like blood, mucus, whatever. Sorry, TMI. But he was like, okay, well, let's check. And so I was like, what does that mean? And so he basically cold-scoped me. He put me on my side, and we went through with a camera with a little bit of lube, and I was able, what does that mean? And so he basically cold scoped me. He put me on my side and we went through with a camera with a little bit of lube.

And I was able to see all of my entrails basically. And I really preferred that. It's not as precise because you don't, when you do a colonoscopy, the day before you prep, right? You have to kind of clean out everything and it's more precise. They really go up the whole track. They give you propofol and all that stuff.

It's so fun. There's like 10 seconds where you're like, I just did it, honey. Oh, did you love it? Oh, did you get the fentanyl? Yeah, a little bit. I tried to have them not give it to me. Or I was like, no.

I was like, all right. And I was like, how many percentage of people? They're like 90% of people take it. I was like, all right. I got it when I went into labor. It was amazing. Oh, they can do that now? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's part of the pro-go. Cedars? No, Huntington, which is like Cedars Mini in my opinion. It's like more private Cedars. How do you know those two are now fentanyl? Yeah, fentanyl is part of the protocol for labor. So epidural, fentanyl. Everything.

You're laughing the whole time. Having fun. You're shaking hands, people are coming in to meet you. Maxed out my doses, I had three doses of fentanyl. How long were you in labor? 24 hours, just about. But it's so, once you get the drugs, I love not being able to feel my legs.

See, I have a numbness, like, I don't like being numb. Me too. So there's, I had breast implants removed. I thought I was numb. I hate like. You get anxiety too. Yeah, yeah. It throws me into, I thought I was numb. I hate like. You get anxiety too. Yeah, yeah. It throws me into.

Me too. Yeah, I spin out. It's weird to tell, I don't, when I was, here's what I'll say. When I did have my legs not being able to be felt, when I touched them. No. That was bad.

Cause I go, what's that? I don't even want to feel it up here. I don't even want to know they're numb. I don't either. There's a little patch on my right boob that I cannot feel because I had implants and then I got explants. So there's been a lot of like just titty trauma in general.

And I swear to you, like the fastest way for me to spiral is if I touch that one patch and I cannot feel it. I get it, it's scary. Cause what does it feel like? It feels like something weird on your finger. I don't like that. You feel the sensation on your finger but not the other part of it.

And then you don't feel like that's your body and it just turns into this whole thing in your head. So I don't like that feeling. I have to say, I did not like when I had to hold my legs up. You said it felt like. To do what? Holding wood. To do what?

To squeeze? No, to squeeze. Thank you. I was imagining you in the final moments. They go, hold your legs up. You've got one leg hooked like this, one leg hooked like this. You're giving birth. They leave the room. And they're dead weight and you're screaming, this ain't so bad. That's what I was imagining.

Did you consider birthing on all fours or on the side? That's what I was imagining. Did you consider birthing on all fours or on the side? No, that didn't come. Because I didn't want to bring any ideas from home to the hospital. I wanted the hospital to do it. I wanted to see ideas from home. That's what people do.

They come in with their birth plan, their playlist. They have all this stuff. I am like you. I love the doctors. I love nurses. That's when I feel like I'm a star is when I'm in the hospital bed. That's where the lights are bright.

Everything is what I want it to be. All eyes on you, baby. Exactly. You're a star. So I didn't want to intervene. I wanted the hospital to take over. So you didn't have like a doula or anyone that you were meeting with on the side?

No, no side chicks, nothing. Just straight up hospital and doctor. I really do sort of like think you're very punk rock in that way, cause I mean, like you could- Probably lower your anxiety. She was very like, my only birth plan is don't die. And I was like, oh shit. I would have like pegged you as someone

maybe with too much planning and anxiety, but you were just like, no, I- I think that that would have spiraled me. And I knew, something instinctually knew, like I have to hand this one over. That's really cool. Cause even now I look back and there's things that bother me

a little bit like the fact that when she was born. The fact that they left you in the room. You had two legs under like this hooked. And they were filming. And they were coming in to meet you and you were shaking hands with the with the legs. like, okay, so now my anxiety is like, oh, because when she was born, like, she was a little bit, not all, you know, she had some, what is it called, lung problems. So she had to be x-rayed immediately, and they also, and then Nicky gave her a formula

without, like, they just did it, which is fine, but I think the anxiety that I was feeling postpartum, I was like, they just x-rayed my tiny baby. Like, isn't that really bad for her? They just gave her like whatever formula they do without. Like Gatorade, it's so weird to have the hospital they give you shit. Or it was like, it's like, I like, you like come out

and they're like, welcome back to earth. You just had surgery and they're like, here's neon blue Gatorade. I was like, can I get water? I know, and they animal crackers that have the worst ingredients ever. They're so good. Here's some oatmeal chocolate chip cookie

from 7-Eleven down the street. And because the hospital gives it to you, you think it's so good and it's not. Did you get the cocktail? No, stop bringing this up. Oh, I know you didn't get that service. What cocktail? You got gypped. the cocktail? No, stop bringing this up. Oh, I know you didn't get that service. What cocktail? You got gypped.

What cocktail? I guess the nurses at some hospitals will make you a special cocktail. I didn't get it. I guess I didn't qualify. It wasn't on my insurance. With crayon, with orange. They do a whole thing on TikTok.

It's like ASMR. Not alcohol, you mean? With a pebble ice. I'm so sorry you missed out on that. I had the pebble ice though. Oh, you did? The pebble ice was so good. Where were we?

I don't know. We were talking about how they gave her formula. Oh yeah. You were feeling anxious about. But so I feel anxious about that now but I'm so glad that when that was all going down I was like whatever the hospital wants to do they can do. Like they're the boss of me.

That served me well in that mode. I think I would need that too because I'm so anxious and obsessive. There's so many spirals you can go down that there's just no need. Yeah. Hand it off. Yeah. To the doctor. Dr. Shaw, the only person I've ever met shorter than me. Whoa. So tiny. Tiniest person I've ever seen. Why am I sweating bullets? I am. It's hot in here. But I also just sweat naturally. bullets. I am, it's hot in here. But I also just sweat naturally.

For Kaiser Permanente, I used to be their, I like to call myself their guinea pig. I used to get Botox on my hands and feet. Oh my God. Every three months, because from excessive sweating. I only get pits. So now, so I still get pits. Do you get Botox at all underneath your pits?

I do, I have to, or else mine gets so bad. But my insurance covers it. It really does help a lot. No, I've been tempted, I've heard about that. Before the game, I just have to get something off my chest. Yes. There's been an addition to my life that I haven't talked about.

My, there's been an addition to my life that I haven't talked about. Since having the baby, there's so much discharge. Oh, okay. It's like almost like, it's like weird. Like I have to change my underwear a few times a day. Like I, and I was, my life was not like this before. Even during pregnancy? It's gotta be classic.

Classic. That seems classic, you just had a baby? I just imagined it was probably like that during pregnancy? It's gotta be classic. Classic. That seems classic. You just had a baby? I just imagined it was probably like that during pregnancy. It was during pregnancy, but it hasn't gone away. Oh, okay. Maybe I told Dr. Short. Dr. Short King?

Yeah. No, but I'm not worried about it. I'm just like, oh, this is life. Like, I don't know. That's your ticket to Reddit. I'm now picturing you and me like fully engaged on Reddit in a deep conversation, but not knowing it's the other. For years.

Yeah, yeah. It's normal part of postpartum healing. But now I can't remember what was normal discharge. I don't know. No one wants to add anything. As long as there isn't some obvious like odorous, you know, like... Why do you have to go there? Because then that would mean that you're either having a B-C-E-C or some B-V or something.

Well, I've been having B-V, but this is separate from the B-V. If it's really bloody, they're saying that's when things get bad. I would assume so. I wasn't really looking for this kind of feedback. I was looking more to hear like what you are. You go girl, how's that? I thought. Thank you. Quite frankly, thank you. Let's go to the game.

Wait, is it, is it? No, not from you. What? What do you have? I mean, look, there was a time. Do you have discharge? Tell me about your discharge. I did.

Well, in time when you were like, Kaleel, that's completely normal. Tell me about your discharge. I did. Well, in time when you were like, Klyla, that's completely normal. So I'm giving you the same treatment. Remember a little while ago, I was like, Esther, like five panty changes is excessive. I don't wanna live this life. And you were like, Klyla, it's fine. So I think that you're actually okay.

I think you maybe had slightly less discharge in your normal life. And now you're just like, yeah. You're on a fertility diet. So maybe that's why. Yeah. You're not the only one. Let me smell your panty smell too.

Thanks. Okay, here we go. What is this, Stella? Okay, so this is basically like, what do we feel about these new wellness trends? Are we in, are we worried? Would you do it? Just general thoughts about each one. Okay? Are we in, are we worried, would you do it? Just general thoughts about each one.

Okay, here we go. Oh, I love the spelling of kombucha. Sorry about that. Kombucha, my issue, a lot of the brands, of course, have cane sugar. GT Kombucha was a friend of mine. Next question. No, I think, yeah, I mean, kombucha is always gonna have a place in my heart.

Really? Yeah. I haven't purchased it in probably a year, two years. I feel like you'd, I discovered, the pipeline is like move to LA, discover kombucha, drink it obsessively. Get over it. Move on and never go. Like a nice gingery, like kombucha, like, yeah, sure.

But it's not something I'm buying. I, again, Dr. Teddy, because I had asked him like, okay, you know, like am I someone like- Why do you have a sexy voice when you talk about Dr. Teddy? I love Dr. Teddy. Dr. Teddy says probiotics, prebiotics is all shit. It's all just-

Yeah, what'd you say? He, I was like, is that something that's gonna help me help like repopulate my gut? Yeah, what'd you say? He's like, mm. I'm a little game to him, too excited. He's basically like, no, like that's a marketing thing. It's just like eat, it's just what we eat.

Is this the corn dog guy? The what? Is this the same corn dog? No, that one is my acupuncture. This is her gastro, right? Yeah. So he said, don't, you don't need to take probiotics or prebiotics. No, that one is my acupuncture. This is her gastro, right? Yeah. So he said, you don't need to take probiotics or pure buttocks.

No, he didn't recommend it for me. You know what he did say, though, was high dose turmeric. He's like, take it like a medicine. Can I have some of your rice tonight? I just bought some turmeric pills that I hear are really good. What brand? I forgot.

But it's expensive. It's like $100 a bottle. It's like $100 a month of turmeric. Wow. I want to know the brand. I'll send it to you. OK, thank you. I'm, but it's expensive. It's like $100 a bottle. It's like $100 a month of turmeric. Wow. I want to know the brand. I'll send it to you. Okay, thank you. I'm gonna start it tonight.

What about probiotics through food, like sauerkraut? I mean, I'm sure all of that is good. Like kimchi, all of that, like fermented stuff is good. Well, yeah, people go, the soda, the probiotic soda's not good. Of course it's not real. I mean, it's like, you actually think this is medicine? If you wanna have soda, have soda.

And then you won't be like, soda can't have it out. It's like, just get your fix and you'll be fine. A little bit, like with some stuff. Like the obsession around it. Then you're starting to think, yeah. Okay, here we go. I feel like you were raised so well. Oh my God.

Like you're healthy mentally and it's so refreshing. Do you feel healthy mentally? Ah! Ah! Yeah, I mean, I would say I do. I'm definitely run anxious and I run obsessive. But I'm pretty good. Yeah, are you a lot like your mom?

Yes, I'm truly kind of like both of my parents, like very much both of them. But I like to not think about the ways, the negative things that I've inherited from both of them. But I think, yeah, they both have anxiety. But I mean, I don't, I mean, I'm lucky I don't have, like, depression. Like, I think that's the real fucking, like, like, like I'm like serious chronic depression.

Yeah. Eileen more anxiety than depression as well. Yeah, but I definitely have anxiety. You have both. Both. Yeah. Yeah. On high loads.

It's tough. Yeah. Yeah. But. Does Dr. Teddy give you high loads? I wish he would. But. Does Dr. Teddy give you high loads? I wish he would.

Okay, the next one is detox liquid diet. No, anti. Hell no. Anti. Not good for the metabolism, right? No, no, no, not good. I mean, this thing, because a lot of, I think a lot of these, you know, cleanses,

people go, I'm gonna lose whatever. It's like, when you rapidly lose weight, you're only gonna rapidly gain weight. When you, like it's like your metabolism, it doesn't work like that. Yeah. I mean, I love, sometimes I'm empowered like a doctor

because you're both facing me going like, what do you think, what's your diet? I'm like, here's the thing guys, no. But I just can't even, I get headaches. Like I can't not, like if I like don't eat dinner, like, I will get a migraine. Like, I just... Did you ever fall for it, though? Like, I did.

When Press Juicery opened... Oh, yeah, of course. In New York, Juice Press, I ordered... This was like 10 years ago. I did like a juice cleanse, maxed out after a day, couldn't do it. I did try to do the Power Cleanse once, the Cayenne, whatever. The Cayenne or the maple, yeah.

Also couldn't do it after day one. I tried Prolon once. Quit couldn't do it after day one. I tried Pro-Lawn once. Quit at dinner. I can't do it. It's like not worth it. It's like, I don't like not feeling good. That actually, this was the best, the golden era of my life, my Camelot,

was when I was living in a studio apartment with another woman and together we did the Clean program. Does anyone remember that? No. Oh, you had that book? It was a book, and it was a cleanse, a box you got. It had, basically, it was like Gwyneth Goop, one of like the first things that she-

Was it in Prolon? Was it like early Prolon? It was similar to Prolon, I think, but it was before. And like Oprah had done it, but Oprah wasn't saying what she did, but I like figured it out. Anyway, me and my, but because we did it together and we were literally sleeping in the same room,

like there was accountability and we, it was 21 days. And breakfast and dinner were the protein shakes. Oh God, you did this for 21 days? But lunch, you get to have lunch. That's not much of a... But I had a, I literally had like a keeper, my roommate, who was like making sure we, and it was...

The morning weigh-ins, you guys holding hands on your separate scales. There was no weigh-ins. When I tell you my skin was glowing. Well, sure. Oh, you took like an L-shape handful of pills and everything. Or your eyesight was giving out. Yeah, no thought at all. It gave you the illusion of a filter of pills and everything. Or your eyesight was giving out. Yeah, no thought.

It gave you the illusion of a filter. No thoughts, just glass skin. I was like literally a babysitter, so I just saved up my babysitting money to buy this like $400 cleanse. Oh my God. Best time of my life. Look back fondly, glowing.

You know, every career success I've had was because of those three weeks. Like that I have. Wow. And it's they're illegal now. I can't find the cleanse. I would never and I wouldn't recommend 21 days unimaginable. I mean, I just I just watched I just saw something about this cold plunge. I like a cold plunge every now and then not like religiously, but I like going to like do sauna cold plunge. It's bad for women, right? It is.

I wouldn't, like, that's not what I hear. I just hear that like heat is better for women. Yeah, sauna. And saunas. I love sauna. A lot of Finnish studies. I'm half Finnish? Yes. So you would know that our bodies are just a lot more

delicate than dudes. And I think a lot of the studies do kind of like support, like male bodies, like the cold plunge. But ours are so delicate and we're cyclical. So this woman, she was actually on Hube's. Dr. Sims. Yes. She was saying like saunas, better for the girly pups. They say even one hour a week,

you don't have to be doing it like every day. I'm just not a good candidate for any saunas, any jacuzzis, because I have POTS, so my blood pressure drops a lot and my heart rate goes up, and I get so lightheaded and just like, I always feel passy-outy with a heat. It's intense. I heard that a really hot bath could possibly give the samedy with a heat. It's intense. I heard that a really hot bath

could possibly give the same benefits as a sauna. I heard a hot bath is the same as a jog. What? Someone said to me, a hot bath for long enough gets your heart rate up, like a jogging. That would be really good news for me. Yeah, be real. I do think intuitively though,

women do take really hot showers, right? Yeah. Like I know I do. But it's bad for you. My mom always said it dries your skin out. I mean, I'm sure it does. I remember you saying that to me. Yeah.

She's always like, look at your dad's crepey arms because he takes hot baths. Oh, but I have to. I love that. I know. Me too. That is my thing. I'll take about twice a day.

You're a bath girl too? Morning, battening, and night. Really? How about this? I haven't had a shower in 10 years. I don't shower. I only take bath. Do you shower?

Yeah. Oh. I love shower. I love the bathroom. You almost had one person side with you. I love showering. I love taking baths. I do a shower first to get clean

and then I get in the bath. Okay, that makes sense to me because I take multiple showers in a day but I never do baths. Oh, I love a bath. You really just take baths? I only take baths. How do you wash your hair in there?

I have a little thing. A pail? And I have it's, what's it called? A pail. No, like a handheld shower. This is past life stuff. What do you mean? You only taking baths is like very past life.

What do you mean? Like this is someone else that's coming through. Like this is a past life for you. You reincarnated. You were some kind of like, yeah. You were some kind of like something. It's just too lazy. You think royalty maybe who was bathed every morning. Didn't that sound right for her?

Yeah. Somebody was like, yeah. You were like. And then somebody was like washing her hair for you and pouring water all over you. I'm pretty sure it was just my mom till I was 13. I'm bringing you full fat yogurt.

Wait, but Kate, do you like a cold plunge? I do, I do, but I've only done it, I mean, I've done it under 10 times, like, but. I physically can't do it, I tried, then I got one toe, I thought I got. My max is, I think, like 20 seconds. I've not even been able to go longer than that. Wow, I think you can do that as well.

Esther, we're both slightly anemic, so we would feel colder faster, I think. Thank you for that validation. Yeah. I think I'm slightly anemic. I can see it. Yeah. Okay, last one, B12 shots?

No, I just don't. I remember when Madonna was doing those. I've gotten, like if I'm feeling under the weather, I've had vitamin drips, which have, I do think have helped me. Just, I didn't even like that, freaks me out. I just do it. Just getting IV drips.

You like to be a closed circuit. You don't like to have anything enter. I just, going down there for B12 shot, I mean, I guess in the circumstance where you have to work and you're really sick, I know there are people sort by them, but I've never had to do it. Yeah, I'm kind of starting to step away from the too much of everything kind of culture.

Like, so much supplements out there, so much advice that I'm starting to kind of feel like an aversion towards all of these new hot takes, hot tips. I mean, I'm glad everyone's getting more health aware, but it's too much. I've been, because I've just been home so much the last couple weeks, I've been on my phone even more than usual, if you can imagine,

and scrolling, I'm so stupid right now because I've just been looking at Instagram, like, recipes and doing this, and it's like, it's, you have to turn away. I mean, I need to go on, like, a severe cleanse from it. The fact that you're able to even do that, though, is so impressive to me because I never take breaks, and I don't know.

I do month long. What is happening in that month? How do you do it? On your phone or just social? Social, period. I love that. I don't have it on my phone. I have't know. I do month long. What is happening in that month? How do you do it? On your phone or just social? Social period. I love that. I don't have it on my phone. I have two phones.

I have one phone that has social media. I have two phones. And that's like my drug phone. I can't find my second phone. I haven't seen it in eight months. I have it. You wanna do like a flip phone experiment with me? I really wanna flip phone.

Yeah, let's try it. I've also wanted to do this, but I need maps. I need to be able to play music in my car. I'm on a GPS detox. That's really cool. I'm on a music and GPS in my car detox. What are you doing? Just eyes ahead praying?

Yeah, and hoping. And I know like, ah, that's a general direction. Let me just find it. That's cool. And it's been helping so much with me feeling like just sharper in general. Cause you know how like in the car, like I dissociate so hard where-

You just let it take you. I don't know how I got from point A to point B. Never. We've been coming here for a year. I don't know North, South. I couldn't get here without my GPS. That's pathetic. That's so sad.

I GPS the most basic, I mean, we all do. It's robbed us of our brains. Same, yeah. Not to mention our connection to the earth, terrain. But yeah, I don't know where I am. And like also just your curiosity for like looking at things and like noticing landmarks and like you've lost your ability

to like observe your environment. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna get lost. This is gonna get scary. But let's just go back to like the MapQuest days of like having to like ask the gas station. And you don't really get lost. Like yeah, worst case scenario, you pull over. Yeah, I'm really not getting lost though,

because I come to work and I'm a homebody. So it's like, I know where I'm going, but it's felt really nice where I'm like, oh, I'm noticing things again and I'm not just fully like switching my brain off. Can I ask you, have you ever been lost in the car? Cause that, I happened to be once when I first moved here and it was so traumatizing that like.

I got lost here, I'm from here. I got lost downtown once. What, and what did you do? That's a bad place to be lost because everything's like one way this. Also it was like, it was like midnight, it was like 1 a.m. I was doing the standup show, Holy Fuck. Remember it? Oh my God, yes I do.

The downtown movie theater, what was it called? Yeah, the Independent. And it was like a thing, I was still living in New York and I was out here. Didn't it pay? I feel like it was the rare show that paid like 20 bucks or something. I agree, that sounds right, yeah.

They gave you like a little envelope with $20, you were like, oh me? I feel like it was the rare show that paid like 20 bucks. I agree. That sounds right. Yeah. They gave you like a little envelope of $20. You're like, oh me? Yeah. And then I got lost. I remember being like, you're fine. You're fine. Like talking to myself.

Cause I couldn't, I didn't know like 10 West, 10 East. I was like West East, West East. Like, and so, and I've done that even to this day. Sometimes I get going the wrong one. Not 10 West or 10 East, but you know, sometimes those- 110. No, but the downtown is tricky in that like,

the freeway on ramps, off ramps are super confusing, I think, so that makes sense. It's dangerous. But Esther, try, try getting here without the GPS. And if you get lost, just pull over, call me. I'll find you. You'll find, you'll come get me? I'll find you.

But don't drop a pin, just you have to describe where you're at. Wow. Just be like, look, I'm on the corner of so and so and let me find you without the GPS. Let's do it old school. Okay. Imagine having children, pre-GPS, pre-smartphone,

and it just is like, they're gonna drive somewhere and you're like, see you tonight, and that's the cliche of the mother in the bathroom, where were you? Right, or like being unable to sleep. Can you imagine the terror? Your kid's out there and you're going, hope they don't get lost or worse.

It's crazy. Are you gonna put an air tag on Ace? I already did. Oh. She has a chip. Yeah, you have to chip them. Yeah. No, I actually, it bothers me that Donut has a chip. Oh, it have to chip them. Yeah. No, actually it bothers me that Donut has a chip.

Oh, it does? That's really sweet of you. Because I'm just like, there's this foreign toxic object in her body. Like what if she's, it doesn't- She probably loves her chip. You ever think about that? You're right, I never thought about it.

What if she loves her chip? She likes knowing she can be found, I think. It's better that you can find her. But she's never gonna be found. If she's gone, she's gone. She's so little. No, she's got the chip. Where you guys live, yeah, there tend to be more like,

coyotes. Coyotes and, I love her so much. I can't believe, can I just say out loud, I can't believe since having a child, I love my dog as much as I love my human child. Thank you for saying that because I'm so sick of people saying that, oh, you're just gonna completely stop loving your animals when you have kids.

I'm like, no, I think you just don't love your animals the way- That's correct. They don't have what we have. I love my dog. My dog is my child. It's the same level. I just need to get that off my chest. Wow. I love my dog, my dog is my child. It's the same level. I just need to get that off my chest. Wow.

I love, this is music to my ears. I have four dogs and I cannot imagine like loving- Four dogs. Yeah, I love them so much and I have three cats. You're slowly backing away. No, I love it, that's cool. And I love them so much. I think I don't have any animals and I think it's-

I cry when I look at them, when I think about them getting older. Of course. Like Bobby and I will sit there and we've had Gobi since she was a puppy and she's almost, she's gonna be nine soon. And then we just have an earnest cry fast about her getting older.

And I just can't imagine that I can love something more. So that's a relief to know. And Ace obviously will wake us up in the night. Donut will wake us up in the night. And you'd think, not you Donut. It's like, I love, I'm happy to get up for Donut as just as I am for Ace. What is Donut doing in the night?

She, it's actually really fucked up. She needs a drink of water and you might be thinking, oh just have the water in the room. She can't get down there. We do have it there. She can get down but she needs you to sit up and watch her go down the steps of the bed. Watch her drink her water

and then encourage her back in the bed. She's a cheerleader. Wow. I love her. She is your daughter. She is my baby girl. Anyway, sorry, I don't know why I had to get like, mushy, sentimental. Did you have feelings about the gender of your kid?

Like, were you worried about having a son? Did you not care? I obviously, I was worried. Yeah. Obviously, I wanted a girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But were you open to a son? You know what? Because I had a miscar Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were you open to a son? You know what?

Because I had a miscarriage the second pregnancy, I didn't even think about gender once. Yeah, yeah, totally. And it wasn't until they said it's a girl that I was like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't find out the gender of your first one, right? No, there was never a gender. We never got it.

But when you just are like, I want this child, nothing else mattered. But then I can't deny when I found out I was a girl, I was like, because I heard you say on Poog that you only want daughters. Yeah, but something, I think I shifted. Really? I just think it's like, it's fine.

How'd that happen? Whatever. I just feel, I mean, I don't know. I'm just less like, I'm open to a son. I know that when you meet your baby, no matter what, it's gonna be... To be clear, not pregnant, might not have kids. I just don't want to get down the barrel of that. Yeah.

Fully reserve the right to not. But fully eggy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think it's when you're close with your mom you want a daughter. Yeah, yeah, totally. I don't know. I think, yeah, also if you have, um, like having my sister, I think,

I'm like, oh, we're so close. I'm like, two girls sounds amazing. Yeah. Sisters sound amazing. I'm an only child, so. Oh. But, but I, I know Esther, like, you think only children, like like are fine across the board.

I do think that I am less afraid of having an only child that's a girl versus an only child that's a boy. And I don't know why I can't, I don't have like- Because men isolate? I think so. More likely or more likely to? Or like girls are like better at self soothing, I think. Or I don't know why, but I just have this instinct too,

where I fear it more. I would love to have two girls, because you want sisters, but then I also think you have a boy and a girl, the boy is like the protector of the girl. And that's sweet. Careful, sweetie. Oh! Oh!

Oh! Oh! But what I was gonna say to you before we go, before I knew if I wanted kids or not, I was like, do I want kids, do I not want kids? Then someone was like, take the S away, have one. And it changed everything. Drop the S, you're like, ah, that's so funny. Cause then it's like one is like.

One to me, it's all, I mean, one is 10 to me. Or I just mean the decision isn't like one. I know what you're saying, but for me, it was a shift of like, oh, one is like, when Natasha says, Natasha Lozano says, one is an accessory, two is a lifestyle. Yeah. I don't know.

Oh, that's great, I've never heard that. I wanna float that by you, even though you're an only child, so you probably already think. Yeah, I can relate to that, it's true, yeah. Okay, I feel like I'm about to fall asleep. Yeah, I think we're good. I got too manic from Kate, as I promised.

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