Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Rick Glassman Is Our Sub
Episode Date: July 18, 2023Buy Tickets for Trash Tuesday Live! Link: https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/09005EEAEFA03D97Friday, August 4th @ The Regent Theater - 7PM Thank you to our Sponsors: Mood - Get 20% off your first or...der and FREE gummies when you go to https://hellomood.com and use promo code TRASHTUESDAYSimply Spiked - Go to https://drinksimplyspiked.com/trashtuesday to find out how to get your hands on Simply Spiked Lemonade and Simply Spiked PeachFactor - Go to https://factormeals.com/trash50 and use code trash50 to get 50% off More Rick GlassmanRick & Esther Have A Time: https://www.youtube.com/@HaveATimeTake Your Shoes Off: https://www.youtube.com/@rickglassmanWebsite: https://www.rickglassman.com/storePatreon: https://www.patreon.com/takeyourshoesoffInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/rickglassman Subscribe! https://bit.ly/HitOurButtonsOfficial Clips Channel: https://bit.ly/2QDAi8XTrash Tuesday Podcast iTunes Audio Feed: https://bit.ly/TrashTuesdayPodTrash Tuesday Podcast Spotify Audio Feed: https://bit.ly/TTPodAudioTrash Tuesday Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itstrashtuesday 0:00 Eating Salad With a Spoon2:50 Rick Glassman is Our Sub4:47 The Rumor That Rick Glassman Broke Up Bobby Lee and Khalyla6:29 The Commonalities Between Dave and Rick Glassman9:00 Is Rick Glassman a Dom or Sub?10:55 Bad Breath & Breath Compatibility33:20 Rick Glassman’s Hormones 38:16 How to Tell Someone They Have Bad Breath41:44 The Perfume and Cologne Debate47:20 Blow Drying a Sweaty Scalp50:55 The Feathers Are Out of the Pillow & The Cat is Out of the Bag59:03 Chat Rooms & Catfishing1:09:25 Arguments For and Against Gentlemen’s Clubs1:19:23 Do We Have BDSM Tendencies?1:23:50 Frozen Eggs Listen to our other Podcasts: TigerBelly - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tigerbelly/id1041201977 Rick and Esther Have a Time - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rick-and-esther-have-a-time/id1694264079 AnnieWood - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/anniewood/id1653515392 Follow Us: Khalyla Kuhn - https://www.instagram.com/khalamityk Annie Lederman - https://www.instagram.com/annielederman Esther Povitsky - https://www.instagram.com/esthermonster Produced by: 7EQUIS Podcast Producers: Pete Forthun & Andres Rosende
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salad a little bit if you were to go to um what's that salad place i like ssg sweet greens yeah i
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And I have a new podcast with Rick Glassman.
Don't ask me why, but it is fun.
You can see that on YouTube
and wherever you listen to podcasts.
It's called Rick and Esther Have a Time.
And that is exactly what we do oh when you walked in i feel pranked no no i feel ugly no because this colorful, flowery person is next to me.
I think it's a good contrast, though.
Rick, second time in a row.
What's going on?
First, no lingerie.
Who sent me...
Is this...
I feel like this is low.
Who sent me the text about this?
Pete.
Would you read the text you sent, Pete?
Oh, Pete.
I also...
The idea that you thought he was going to show up in lingerie is so outrageous. Pete, will you read the text that you, Pete? Oh, Pete. I also the idea that you thought he was going to show up in lingerie
is so outrageous. Pete, will you read the text that you
sent me with all the information, please?
I did not mention the BDSM thing.
Is he mic'd up? I'm not.
Go ahead.
No, Rick. Tell Kalilah, not me.
Kalilah, I did not tell Rick about
BDSM because I knew he wouldn't do it.
Can you
just at least play sub?
Yes. Hello, everybody.
My name is Mr. Abagnale.
Not Abagnale. Not Abagnale,
but Abagnale. Hey, loser.
I'm the substitute teacher.
Pull his pants
down. My dog is on
steroids. I'm sorry about your dog.
My dog is on steroids and
he peed on the bed and didn't
even realize it. And he's just had a- You still live with Bobby?
I know there's gotta be a lot of pee pee on there.
I know. And I feel really bad and I have to take him out like every hour and a half.
And anyways, what were you guys up to before I got here?
As much as I really feel for your dog emergency i actually think that what's been
going on here has been more important okay i feel like there's tension and we need you to help it
okay could you explain the tension i think we're okay i don't feel oh okay i don't feel tension
oh good okay good never mind then i comfy. What tension do you feel?
And what type of tension specifically are you afraid could fall on you?
There's going to be like a fight over her.
Wait a second.
I do want to address one thing though, Rick, that was news to me maybe as of the New York
trip is that people think that you and I you're the reason bobby and i broke up
people believe this i don't bring me into your drama i didn't do it why can we try to trace
back why they would think that though why is there any like hints of why that rumor started
there's so many rumors about all the things i don't know know. But where would that specifically start? Is that why you've
tried them and sell that you're not attracted to white men?
I was trying to
get them off the scent a little bit.
So I did see a clip
from, I don't know which one, but one of the Tiger
Bellies that somebody edited together
where it got
like millions of views that did imply
that. Like stuff that I was saying to Bobby, they edited it as if I was saying it to you. together uh where it got like millions of views yeah it did imply that like it like stuff stuff
that i was saying to bobby they edited it as if i was saying it to you and then there was role
playing stuff that the three of us were doing where we were like like how do you hit on a girl
and dating and i was hitting on like they were both playing characters at a bar we were all doing it
and then they edited it so it looked like i was only saying it to you and you were saying it to
me her costume is growing by the way this is getting crazy well i'm really sorry you got dragged into
the bobby breakup drama this is a real theory i don't get really any any it doesn't i get comments
i'm okay i just thought i love you but i thought maybe you'd be the most like
unlikely um well not unlikely like yeah you know what i mean that's how i see him too okay
i get this game now the most unlikely why why esther if i'm so much like your lover why am i
so weird you guys are very similar as i was saying like upbringing wise i can tell you both have like
a healthy that's such a cop-out yes i have loving parents and he has loving parents but a lot of people have loving parents and aren't like me how is that a cop-out, loving... That's such a cop-out. Yes, I have loving parents and he has loving parents, but a lot of people have loving parents
and aren't like me.
How is that a cop-out though?
Like...
But that's not a specific thing.
Like you're talking about our parents.
Well, you're both Jewish, sure.
But what are the specific things?
Well, that is a specific thing.
It's a specific kind of Jewish too.
What kind?
Esther has like half that.
Yeah.
Half regular. Wait, there's... Esther has like half that yeah half regular
wait there's but there you're also very different yeah but I I don't know like just the thought that
you pointed out my glass looked like it was gonna fall is something that Dave does like 12 times
is that that they're alike or that you just put teetered something on the edge of a couch
yeah it's everything that we have in common things that we are uncomfortable about you with no but that's something but wait you're
ocd right i don't like that we'll take your shoes off it's like it's because you want people to take
their shoes off i think that i think that people who don't have obsessive compulsive disorder could
also subscribe to the idea that i don't need cigarette butts, poop, and dirt running
around my rut. Yes, Asian people do it, right?
Is that all? Asian people are just specific
Asian people. What? No shoes in the house. It's just Korean.
No, it's everyone.
I think it's
everyone, but I'm finding
that like... Do you get those camera switches when I do the
fun looks?
Always on you. Can I just say though, I do like how much you do in your podcast you're very
creative you do i like that he's handling you guys take a note this is my bdsm some people
talk dirty to me i say get my camera switch no but it's good it's good tight on my face well
this might be a little personal rick but like and i probably don't want to talk about it you
will talk about it do you not talk about personal. I will. Do you not talk about personal stuff?
I do have some unwritten boundaries.
Do you want to write them for us?
Or you want to just, we'll find them?
They're not as-
You'll just say no?
Yeah.
You want to just have them organically come out or do you want to give us a list?
Because I'm-
No.
I'm learning boundaries right now.
Really?
Yeah.
We'll get back to it in a second.
One of which I think we need to respect are other people's that when they bring something up, we shouldn't go below the line too long. I'm
so sorry. Go ahead. I don't even remember what I said. Perfect. Sometimes when somebody says,
I have something that's very personal and you don't want to tell them, you don't want to talk
about it. You just go like this for a little and be like, what was that? And then they forget.
go like this for a little and be like, what was that?
And then forget.
I didn't forget.
Okay, what is it?
I mean, this is a BDSM episode, so I think that there should... I don't even know what that stands for.
Bad doggies make smiles.
S becomes four M.
S before M except after E.
So go ahead.
Annie, is it okay that they laughed at something I said?
I laughed too, Rick. Okay. You know what I want? so go ahead and is it okay that they laughed at something i said i'm laughing too rick
okay you know what i want every time i make a joke if we could just get a pickup of that
that just okay go ahead i um i guess this is made too personal of a question but like
you know are you do you find yourself more of like the dominant type in the bedroom or are you somebody
who's like you know very like you know equal are you mix it up or are you like what do you find
yourself in these days what's the pillow prince that would mean you just kind of like lay back
and let it happen so esther yeah she's a pillow prince yeah she's a pillow princess you know last time i was on here
i asked esther a question and she never answered do you ever get fucked face forward what does that
first of all define face forward who's facing cut to that clip are you gonna do it i'll be right
back who's facing forward because i'm facing forward. I'm saying, is anyone ever looking at your face while it happens?
While it happens?
Yeah.
Is that the proper pronoun?
The thing.
What does your sex identify as?
There's actually a way where you can do it where you're both facing each other.
But he still gets to look away from you?
Exactly.
Right.
I'm sure he and I would have that in common as well.
He's afraid of context too.
How does that work?
So,
oh,
it's like kind of half sit up,
right?
And you're this way,
but then he gets to turn his,
crank his neck.
I think it's just missionary with closed eyes.
I am a little nervous to share this,
but I will share it. Like,
lately,
like a big issue has been,
and it's literally a mutual issue, but we both don't like each other's breath.
Like by the time S happens.
Yeah.
You know, I'm saying it's been a long day.
Nobody's really freshened up.
Maybe we met, we had fajitas for dinner with a lot of grilled onions.
And so.
Maybe. So. Excuse me. would you like extra grilled onions and esther goes no
of course so sometimes you know we we have a mutual agreement to sort of that's so funny you
know i why don't you brush your teeth yeah i i I actually can. I have a really good answer.
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Anyway, so what was the question?
Why don't you brush your teeth?
Oh.
We're going to share something.
This is good because I don't believe that my, at least for me, my oral health, and I
do feel the same for Dave, I don't think it is a-
Priority?
Issue.
No.
Oh, you think it's a gut issue?
I think it's coming from inside the house.
Oh.
Well, what's happening inside the house?
Yeah, what's happening inside the house? Well, if you really, I guess I'll just keep spilling the house. Oh, you guys are fucking gross. Yeah, what's happening inside the house?
Well, if you really,
I guess I'll just keep spilling the tea.
Wouldn't you say if it's you,
maybe it's more spilling the beans?
This one I do know about me
because I saw a doctor like 10 years ago
when I first moved to LA
and a lot of comics told me.
Why haven't you gone to a doctor in 10 years?
Well.
Because they gave her this bad news.
I have this thing called gastroparesis where it
comes from when you chew your food too no you don't you swallow your food too fast everyone
goes we know without chewing it enough and so then the food rots in your stomach and causes
bad breath but why don't you just chew better i dude i try i tried it all. I really have. How many times did you try, Esther?
I've given up, okay? Well, that's just
like how Bobby eats
chunks of steak whole because he doesn't have any
teeth in the back. He doesn't?
So he has to cut the steak
on the flavor and swallow it whole.
Why doesn't he have teeth in the back?
He has the money to get implants. He's just like
it's too much work. It's a Korean thing though, isn't it?
They only have 18 teeth. I thought you said 80 and teeth 18 teeth i do have a question
which jews call high kawaii is it i know you talk a lot about like how you need to like a person's
body smell is it the same issue though for breath like because sometimes i wear it like yes
yeah absolutely a thousand percent i mean i don't know if there's a stronger pheromone
other than that i agree when somebody's breath smells um my lady in the morning her breath
her morning breath i like uh-huh i will agree and that she also likes his lady
also likes her breath is not helping these rumors.
I don't know if somebody else would smell it and be like, I don't like it.
I mean, like some people like cilantro.
Some people like Esther.
It's like 50 50.
But I like her breath.
And not only is that a good thing because it means I don't.
Oh, bad breath.
It's also like I want to smell that.
The opposite of wanting to smell something would be dating esther what does she like your morning breath yeah yeah so i think that it's
just a matter of finding the person who likes your flavor like i'm kind of late to be telling
her this no but i think that probably you and they probably do to an extent right but i also
think you could chew more maybe if you chew chewed more. Equally hating each other's breath, though,
does almost feel like liking each other's breath.
Thank you.
And it's funny because like, well, he'll be like,
I don't know.
I'm scared to like be too personal.
Then don't.
Talk about yourself, not him.
You know what?
If you want to hear more about that,
we'll be revealing it on the Rick and Esther
Have a Time podcast.
No, but I'll say like, I'll say something to him like your breath is bad and every time i do he's like yours is terrible so it is like a very equal and he's probably just so like if you told me my
breath was bad it would offend me too it would let's also not shame i mean everybody gets bad
breath sometimes yeah and i think it's good to call that out yeah
i think it's good i want oh it's the opposite it's good to call out people when they have bad
breath or there's ways to be attacked because because and i take tax no that's sugar though
and sugar will make it worse there's ways of doing it with tact um how i want to learn are you native american the the idea of of telling somebody
their breath is bad but calling them out like oh esther fucking suck
it's like if somebody has a booger in their nose you could just be like esther
yeah you know you do it very good very good um you can find one. I want to know if my breath is bad.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be talking about that.
But I want to know, like, in a lineup of, like, 10 people, who my breath is good to and who it's bad to.
And what their breath smells like.
Well, there's...
It's like a chemistry match, I think.
But I know what you're saying.
But it's also mixed in with what did you eat?
Also, I have changed toothbrushes.
Listen, I'm going to get fucking beat up in the comments.
And I'm not sure if what I'm saying is something that is true or not.
It's just something I subscribe to.
I am staying away from fluoride in my toothpaste.
Light me up, Internet.
I'm doing that.
Why?
And with that, because I have some hormone stuff that I'm trying to figure out.
And some people, fluoride could fuck with their hormones.
Yes, if you have a lot of it.
But I'm brushing my teeth a few times a day fluoride could fuck with their hormones. Yes, if you have a lot of it, but I'm brushing my teeth
a few times a day.
All right.
You have high female hormones, right?
I have very high testosterone
and my estrogen
has been fluctuating.
Right.
And my prolactin.
Wait, do you menstruate?
No.
Because you're talking like you do.
He wouldn't wear that color pants
if he did.
That's true.
Girls who menstruate.
She menstruates.
She's ready to wear it.
She bleeds out.
She bleeds out.
She's a free bleeder.
So with this fluoride toothpaste or lack thereof, it limits the amount of toothpaste I could
choose from.
And I have found that a lot of the fluoride free toothpastes don't have the same, when
you're done, like, doesn't have that same vibe have you tried bokeh it's a
fluoride free toothpaste that i use uh i have not which one do you use but are you recommend you the
person who says her own boyfriend can't even fuck her facing forward because her breath is so bad
i'm gonna try bokeh maybe get back on fluoride what if you just use deodorant, chewed, and used fluoride?
You would maybe, maybe our numbers would go up.
Okay, I made out with Annie, and her, your breath is like chemically matched with mine.
Really?
Her breath is really good.
We have a vibe, Esther.
Yeah, I would make out with Annie.
You guys made out for like a bit, or you guys were like out somewhere, and you were attracted to each other?
What do you want to know?
No, just on the, just on the show and i
yeah your breath was so good for me thank you i don't think we've generally we've maybe we pecked
but i don't know i don't think dave would like it if you if dave is like me i don't think dave
would like it if you two made out and i'm gonna speak for dave right now you guys shouldn't do
that we didn't say we would we i'm just saying sex is not kissing it sounds almost like you
really want us to no if i wanted you to believe me i would i would i wouldn't be bringing it up so much
i would really hate if you two girls kissed right now
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me i said that you need to be a lesbian she needs me to start she wants me to start i need you i
need the same by the way but this is not a joke why do i have to be the lead i really learned in
the past couple weeks that you are the perfect lesbian and you're gatekeeping your lesbianism from all of us
i'm saving it for todd i make him man gina i make him tuck no you're the hottest possible lesbian
you're i would dominate i would crush i would be the next ruby rose yeah no you'd be shane
from the l word like you actually could be blonde blue-eyed shane i'd be shane god
were we not all in love with shane shane was so hot i was i liked shane but i also really
like jenny schecter because i saw myself in her jenny insider um okay wait so we actually asked
our fans for some gossip and i got some stuff i want to share let's be real i think our
gossip's out no it's not no do you think we have more gossip are you kidding oh my gosh are you
you're a delusional you and i have between the three of us so much in the tank so much in the
tank we can never release into the world that we haven't even dusted off these poor men they're like finally she stopped talking about me and then i was asked just kidding okay so this is actually kind of interesting like
let me just i want to know what you guys think of this situation i have a co-worker that is
attached to his wife at the hip anytime she's home he wants to leave early and be with her he
hates closing shifts because of this
he just emailed everyone today asking to switch shifts because he just has to go with his wife
to a party of her friends and no one is going to switch because he goes home early every day
because he clocks in 20 minutes early every day he's always sick or sad and stays home with her
it's weird my female co-workers and i all discuss how much we would hate to have a partner like that.
And we enjoy our alone time.
I think she hates him just as much.
Really?
This sounds like someone who might be slightly anxious.
Now, I have to say, I literally just called myself out to Dave for this.
Whenever I'm at the comedy store and I know Dave is home I rush home
yeah and Dave is like I don't know why you do that and the only like I keep telling you stay
out he literally does and I'm like it is just this like internal from the other side of that
where it's just people trying to hang out with you at the comedy store and you're just leaving
you doing that to Liza the other day was the greatest thing this is some gossip Liza Trager
was we're all talking to Esther and you get your little moment with esther and you're like think it's gonna keep going because it's just like the tip of the like
gossip iceberg and then esther just starts walking to her car and like whoa what this is like you're
not even gonna stay there but i was like haha it's not just me okay i can't tell you how many times
this girl's left me mid-sentence because i have chased you down the sidewalk i've chased you
i chased after your car i am this guy
where i rush home but if dave is out of the casino with your platonic lover gene yeah i will stay i
will hang and do you know how much todd would like to be involved in that by the way the casino oh
he's more than welcome i think what if all of our boys went to the casino you know bobby was
this is gossip bobby was not allowed to go to the casino
with gene and dave actually makes sense and also he shouldn't be allowed he's the worst gambler
he's not helpful yeah he's not one time we were um i think it was like the hard rock somewhere in
like florida we were in florida somewhere we were at a casino i've never seen someone lose that much money so fast I spent this is in Florida I spent the next
three hours doing everything I could to win the money back I stayed at the blackjack table and
mind you I don't gamble a lot but I won you pretended you worked there you took tips
yeah but I won the money back from um for him because I was just like this cannot be like I
cannot believe you lost that in like 30 minutes there's something about watching someone who has money lose money fast
that makes me so excited it gets me through like a fear that i have but it's through someone else
i was i was at a casino once with the hannibal burris and this was when i was like living in
my car broke like barely had money like was so excited to be getting this like paid feature gig
hey who was obsessed
with you the most when you were living in your car me and who was shaming you though for keeping
your makeup in a plastic like uh grocery bag look at you now you have a sock a designer sock
but um yes still would rush home i'm like i live in my car i'm in my house you don't want to come
over and hang out we can listen to some music music. Whatever you want. You want Taylor Swift? You want Lana? Who do you want?
I will say that like the idea of going home and just hanging out in pure comfort with someone you love is really exciting, no matter how long you've been with them. But where's yours coming from? Why do you need, why do you feel the need to to go home to davis anxiety or really want to hang out with him it's it's like all of it it's like i just knowing that someone
is sitting there i'm like i want to rush back and i don't know why because sometimes i do go
and then i don't even we sit in our separate rooms it it makes no sense and he's like that's
crazy you should stay as long as you want but But I will say about this person with their messages,
if a guy was always rushing home to me,
I actually would not like it.
It's kind of gross.
Let's just say this.
If Todd doesn't give a FaceTime from me,
I consider he's kidnapped my dog.
I go, you've kidnapped my dog.
Where are you?
It's like he's either gambling or he's at the terrarium store.
He's like getting a new gecko or something.
Oh, no.
I know now.
Now I know the tells.
But I know I like I love being around Todd all the time.
And when he's now that he's working and I can't go on the road with or you can't go on the road with me.
I'm like desperate, desperate to get home.
I mean, I guess that's different because we're.
My safe space is being at home with Dave, but we're not even in the same room.
That is my oh i feel so
that feels so good to me when you guys are home are you always like hanging are you separate
no but he always wants me to he has like his i guess it's the aquarium room now um his office
and we have a tv in there and but the only place for me to sit is like an old gaming chair
that's like back so i'm'm like, I'm like this.
And there's like cup holders.
And he always wants me to watch TV in there.
But I'm like, I want to like lay in my bed.
I have the hospital bed.
Like, it's perfect.
Can I crack one of these?
Yes.
But Kalilah, do you, if a guy rushed home to you, would you be turned off?
Okay.
So here's what I like.
I can only speak from my last relationship because I haven't been in anything that deep since.
I loved it when I would randomly leave without telling Bobby.
Or he would wake up and I wasn't home.
And I would look at my phone and he'd be like,
where are you, mommy? I need you. And it made me feel so warm inside. But I did. I liked it when
he would go out to swingers or like to whatever diner, like after his sets at the comedy store.
But he was really good about calling me
right after his set and saying like, hey, I'm doing this with this specific person.
And but sometimes he would come home at three and that was OK with me.
I do love good communication, good phone calls, good keeping me in the loop of where you are and
stuff like that. I remember one time in college, I was like i was dating this guy and he went to
vegas for the weekend like literally with his dad and my dad was like so he's been gone for two days
and he hasn't called you my dad was like my old man dad was like he's not your boyfriend like he
like instilled in me if he doesn't call you that he's his dad's boyfriend he's in a romantic my dad is my boyfriend um yeah i don't
know i feel like when i'm at the comedy store if todd doesn't come with me we both know i'm gonna
be there until the crack of dawn like he knows i'm not coming home i can't i want to be with him
but i i respect you for that that's amazing that you can go out and have fun knowing he's home and
you don't give a.
Yeah, I think that's good.
Okay, the best feeling in the world is being in like just a secure relationship.
Yes.
Where there's implicit trust in the other person.
And it's like you can do whatever you want because like we are so sure about each other.
Yeah.
That is the greatest feeling.
Go fly, baby.
Go fly.
But it took me years to be okay with that because
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smell that's important for me it's like this i will say this like people like his body smell you
just did i had a partner who went um i had a partner who went full keto and his breath turned like floral and shitty and it was not a match for me anymore.
I had a very big aversion to his scent after his diet change.
Now, I'm not sure I know what full keto means.
Is that an anime?
And he's like carried around one of those big swords like Cloud.
Put him a picture.
People don't get it.
Do you like Todd's morning breath shut up i do
todd's your dog yes does he like yours yes we love each other wait i like my dog's breath
oh more than your fiance's yeah do you yeah oh is that why i do my dogs have full-on garbage
breath and i'll kiss them like all day because they're just like my babies.
Right.
But I mean, not as like I don't feel sexual towards them.
So that doesn't count.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like for me to feel sexual towards somebody, I really, really have to like everything about their scent.
And even if it's maybe stronger for somebody like their bo might not someone would
be like oh like i hate that scent i'm probably obsessed with her bo and i'll probably stick my
head in there and inhale deeply a couple times a day okay i'm uh i'll shower todd up sometimes
though if he smells too bad yeah i smell that bad todd's yeah pretty okay okay this i've told todd to throw a throw a toothbrush in there
same so i've i don't have a problem telling like when i was with bobby just be like hey go brush
your teeth because he either just vape he ate you know whatever greasy food he ate and the combo is
not good i don't like vape breath so i'm like before we make out can you please go don't like
vaping and smoking and i'm not talking about even in a sexual sense i just
very turned off by by it by it i just think it's very unhealthy it is tough even like with now
that bobby dips it not like we're still making out oh he dips he dips a lot so i'm like oh my
god i'm so glad you started that when he dips i dip yeah you dip i dip you dip but he didn't have a scent he doesn't have a
natural body odor so he doesn't sweat his armpits don't smell i mean vape is it's still bad for you
i know but i'm saying is like um it's better though i it was hard for me to even read it
smells less bad too yeah it does the what cigarettes are vaping it's like vaping vaping
doesn't it doesn't smell as bad but it's still it are vaping it's like vaping vaping doesn't it
doesn't smell as bad but it's still it's not great it's not great but my boyfriend's family
is like a whole vaping family they all used to smoke cigarettes now they vape his brother makes
like has a whole youtube channel where he makes vape recipes and stuff he's like rich off vape
oh shit i've never heard of a vaping family they They're a vape family. What? Go to New Jersey.
Go to Tom's River.
Wait, Rick, what is wrong with your hormones?
Like, how did you know?
Because I never hear guys talk about their hormones.
This is a very female issue.
Yeah.
Having it.
Well, you know, I feel very strongly about hormones.
You and I actually had a discussion on the phone about this.
I don't know if you remember about the morning after pill.
Oh, yeah.
I have very strong feelings on things that adjust people's hormones.
I was having panic attacks.
I know.
And I see a lot of doctors.
I have two podiatrists.
Is that like Dave too?
One for each foot.
No.
Opposite.
Dave is not like that. And I just, I was getting, I didn't knowiatrists. Is that like Dave too? One for each foot. No. Opposite. Dave is not like that.
And I just, I was getting, I didn't know what was wrong.
My doctors didn't know what was wrong.
And I experimented with a lot of things, foods and went and got, you know, met with an endocrinologist.
And I didn't know that that was an issue, but I found out that my testosterone was above
what it even,
I don't even know what it is.
It's higher than the 1500 that it goes to.
And at the time my estrogen was really high.
And then my estrogen went back here and then here.
I know that I'm very sensitive to cortisol spikes and get like,
I'm very in touch with like,
I've become very in touch with when I feel a certain way,
how much of it is chemical.
That's what I'm working on too.
Low blood sugar even.
I made sure to have a hard-boiled egg before I came here.
That's a good snack.
Not if you're hypoglycemic.
Really?
Are you allowed to say that?
That's not a fast sugar.
I find that in the mornings, I don't normally eat breakfast, I find that in the mornings I don't normally eat breakfast.
I don't find, I just don't.
But when I have coffee, I need to have something in my body.
So I like to start the day with at least a little protein.
Yes.
Cause that will prevent a cortisol spike, right?
Um, I don't know if that's cortisol or sometimes I don't know the difference between cortisol
and adrenaline.
I just know that I am super sensitive to my things and my feelings and
uh yeah my hormones i'm still trying to figure out i'm meeting with geneticists and i just what
what is that he's a doctor what is the end goal right to get you to feel a little bit more like
um like calibrated or is it because you're trying to have a baby so i'm also looking into that stuff as well
you guys don't have your headphones on but there's some it's gonna be it's me and you
you keep looking at me it's what is it leather something yeah it's the leather
but i'm just adjusting my mic okay rick i swear to god to God. What? You're in close proximity to me.
We might, I'm going to throw hands.
Honest to goodness, if you hit me.
What?
If you hit me.
What?
On camera.
I will come.
I would, I would hit you back.
I would.
I would hit you back and I would hit you in the stomach.
Hard.
Where I can't breathe because of this fucking corset.
And I would say, I'm pressing charges unless you let me post the clip.
That's my clip.
Now, the end goal is to better understand why.
Is this just what it is?
Or is there a better version?
Is there something that is doing this to me?
I have been learning and working on my own self-soothing practices and that's great.
But do I need to implement them as strongly if I could better control the hormones in my body?
Or is this just what it is? Can you do some of the self-soothing ones on me right now?
It's self-soothing. Yeah. I guess we need a tongue scraper.
It did look a little yellow. It matches matches the but we've talked about that yeah um that's just
maybe if you chewed more do you are you sweaty do you like sweat a lot from stress and stuff
i think i i mean i i've never noticed i sweat more or less than the average athlete
um and then you're lucky if you have high testosterone usually you go those are bald
guys usually have high testosterone it depends it depends if. It depends if it turns into DHT.
Is that, no, DHT, is that right?
Yeah.
It depends.
Everyone is different, more or less susceptible.
What would you do?
If you were bald, would you get hair implants?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Because you're an actor or just because-
Because I would probably just feel insecure about it.
Your dad has good hair though.
My dad has better hair than My dad. My dad.
My dad has better hair than my dad's hair is.
His his forehead is like a thumbnail.
It's it's it's insane.
What do you mean?
Like a thumb?
It's just fucking tight, dude.
My dad's hair looks like like George Lopez, you know, just like eyes, eyebrows, hair, just fucking mane.
My dad's hair is amazing. i love my dad so much that's cool where would you get my parents i know i love my parents too
is it rude to ask a guy who you see like starting to bald be like hey like maybe save your pennies
because like i like hair and yes i would love for you to keep your that is rude to do it that way again we were talking about okay tell me how oh by the way tell me how to tell someone
they have bad breath you never got to that sure um also and i don't want to be rude but i could
use this as an opportunity it's not that big of a deal i know that you were running like for
something i don't know if your lipstick on my teeth your breath so little maybe one of them
oh shut up that's how i would do it oh that's how you're saying that that that's how I would do it. Oh, that's how you're saying it. See, I didn't like that. That's horrible. That hurt my feelings.
And you know what?
Then now I know I won't tell you
that your breath is bad.
Yeah, how would you like it
to be told to do it?
You said it on a mic
in front of them.
But he doesn't really think...
I was doing an acting...
You asked him
and he was just answering.
You said, how would I do it?
And I was showing you.
Okay, go.
Show me again.
But fine, if it was...
All three of us will do it.
Sorry, I got caught off guard.
Fine, I'll show you how to do it
on a podcast.
ABC, well, I'll get a turn and you tell us will do it i'll try to do it on a podcast abc you're
well i'll get a turn and you tell us who did it best you go first great um real quick tell me the
truth can you will you edit this out okay uh not coincidentally but your breath is a little bad i
don't really care that much but if you want a mentor to go do something um and come back in
right after she said abc a rick you go first first. And then we could, so we take that.
Why would, but why would it, but why would it matter?
Like if you're on the podcast with her,
why would it matter to tell her during the podcast?
I just did. They're not really editing that out.
No, I know. I know. But I'm just saying as this role play, I'm saying,
but like in that scenario, while you're in the middle of like a podcast,
you don't need to tell her then.
Because somebody might be embarrassed.
I would say like after if it's
like this scenario is khalil it's like after the show i'd be if you were like i'm going out to do
something i'd be like all right before maybe you should your breath is a little bit rough okay ripe
yes i feel like afterwards like if i'm helping you out for something else you're going to do
but i wouldn't need to do it i mean i know you were doing for the sake of the thing but yeah i
didn't like yours as much i like am Annie's a little bit better. Your turn.
Can I kiss you real quick? Oh.
Esther's like, let me make your breath worse.
Look, wait, I just want to just, I'm like.
Are you going to adjust the glasses?
Hey, shout out the mic.
Esther's talking.
Okay, so, hey, Kalilah, I deal with this a lot.
I just want you to know, I think your breath might be bad, but it's not as bad as mine.
I can hear your breath right now.
Wait, I want to start over.
It's too serious.
Yours is too serious.
Annie's is more casual.
Annie's is just like, wait, wait, wait, don't go, don't go.
Like, let me help you out real quick.
I'll be like, like, like a little bit like fun bitchy.
Yeah, yeah.
But I know, I know you. I'll be like, like, like a little bit like fun bitchy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think.
But I know, I know you.
I'd be like, oh my God.
I think I wouldn't tell someone like if I don't know them that way, I wouldn't tell them.
Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's something that's, that's a dance that I've had to learn,
learn how to, how to choreograph myself.
I sometimes like feel like my instinct used to be, if I would want to know, I'll, if I
would tell the person and i found myself in situations where
i don't know the other person and uh and one of the one of the rules i have set for myself
is i don't know everybody my truth and that could translate into many different ways
and i've had a sense of myself sometimes and i still feel bad like in this arbitrary example
there could be someone i don't really know that much and their brother's horrible and i'll walk
away not having told them which I think was the right thing.
And still feel like, oh, that was so shitty of me.
But sometimes you tell it and they can't hear it.
And I don't want to carry that load.
Sometimes it's like if you have to work in close proximity to people, right?
Let's say you're a caretaker.
Like, I do think it is your responsibility to make sure that your breath is as good as it can be.
If you're face to face with someone, it's only polite.
I've had to tell people that the perfume is too strong when I work with them.
I think that's okay.
Yeah, because a lot of people really go overboard.
Also, here's a quick little PSA.
You guys have 50% men.
So here's for the 50% women that want a guy's point of view.
We don't want you to wear perfume.
We don't like it.
It doesn't smell good.
It smells like poison. it's a chemical now if you found a way to spray one time and walk through it
where we get close to you and we go is that that could work nobody nobody wants it i don't i think
you're wrong nope i feel that way about cologne. I think if I... Guys in the comments, guys in the comments,
write if you like women that wear perfume.
What about perfume?
Like, you know, when she...
The smell of her shampoo after it's...
If it's a good smell, sure.
But listen, we're talking about pheromones.
What are you hiding?
A lot.
I actually don't wear perfume
and I'm probably the only person you're not.
You also don't wear deodorant
and I don't think you would smell better with perfume.
I think you'd smell better with a shower.
Or you do wear deodorant.
I wear deodorant that doesn't work.
Yeah.
Sometimes I smell a hoagie situation.
On me?
Yeah.
I've smelled you.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I know.
But I'm all for it.
I get why you don't want to wear deodorant.
Thank you.
But there's natural deodorants that work.
Yeah.
I think perfume, though it could smell good good like to you when it's on the
it's just it's distracting i i don't think you speak for all men though of course not
but you sounded really really like well you know yeah i got a strong point of view and i'm selling
it from um i'll say this there's some men who overdo it with a cologne where i'm completely
repulsed by it and there are some men where overdo it with a cologne where I'm completely repulsed by it.
And there are some men where like the cologne sits with their body chemistry really well.
And I am just so enamored by it.
There's a cologne. But it's got to be very light amount.
There's a cologne that Bobby wears that I hate.
Oh, no, that's intentional.
I absolutely hate it.
It's something.
And it's not like.
Annie, it's all of them.
But it's such a weird.
Bobby's wearing cologne intentionally to repel Annie?
Yes.
To repel everyone.
So what he doesn't want is you smell good.
He doesn't want that.
He wants people's reaction to be like,
what the fuck is that?
Is it like a burning piece of wood?
Is it like when I walk around with headphones,
even if I'm not listening to something,
so people don't talk to me?
Similarly, maybe.
No, but why does he do that?
Because he wants to smell, he this is because he wants to smell
he calls it he wants to smell like the future he doesn't want to smell like every other boy he wants
to smell like a bird he used to want to smell like wiz khalifa so that's his thing so like that
some of the stuff that he wears is so strong i don't love it if i understood it but i respect
what is what happened i wasn't at you but i wasn't laughing i just didn't love it if i understood it but i respect what is what happened wasn't at you
that i wasn't laughing i just didn't understand it's okay it's future and wiz khalifa are both
musicians oh okay i get it now then i'll say it they're both black there sorry and he is speaking
for all men okay speaking for all black men we don't want your perfume you don't want any
cologne on any oh. Oh, my God.
Like, I actually feel this.
I almost am scared to sound too mean, but I feel bad for any man that wears cologne.
I'm like, I think it's so gross.
I feel bad.
I'm like, you must feel low status in society.
Really?
What?
You're talking about an opinion on senses and instead judging the person.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's my take.
How I...
Yes.
And as a person who is low status in society, short, ugly female, I identify, I relate.
You think you're female?
You're not Esther.
You're not Esther.
I also want to say on here because we bust Esther's balls.
Yeah, of course.
It's funny to call her ugly.
You're not ugly.
You're really, really pretty.
Really?
Yeah.
Say that.
Say more.
We think you're pretty and you're funny.
But you thinking you're ugly is like one of the things that makes you hot.
And you're not hot.
You're not even pretty.
She is.
Look at her tits.
Look at her tits.
The hottie.
Thanks, Andy.
You're welcome, sir.
But don't speak about yourself that way you could say that say
that you're not a pretty person it also doesn't but it also doesn't like work anymore yeah it was
like an old but i think you still identify well i did i definitely identify as low status also
how about this a woman over 35 low status over 35 really yeah honestly i thought you were maybe 30
you look amazing this is getting weird
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did your grandfather
wear like cologne
or any sort of
you assuming I knew
my grandfather
is
you scream
I was pals
with my grandfather
more than anyone I've ever
my dad is a grandfather but did he ever wear like an actually yes my my mom's uh my mom my
grandfather on my mom's side who is not my biological grandfather but he wore old spice
and that does conjure up a positive memory yeah but I just most colognes today that we smell
men today it's like acts or like the
things that bobby it's just it smells like chemicals and it's gross and i do like a man
smell i love an a sweaty underarm when like when dave is dirty like when he comes home from a fresh
day of golf yeah like you know you that smell, just not the breath.
Yes.
Cover the mouth.
Yes.
There's a certain type of smell
that someone gets.
Like, it doesn't smell like body odor.
It smells like the day.
Like, in Filipino, we call it-
Ozone.
You smell like aro.
Aro just means like,
it smells like the day.
Like, you've been working outside
and there's dirt and the sun.
And that's good or bad?
I don't like it. The States is ozone. Also, I don't like the smell, like you've been working outside and there's dirt and the sun. And that's good or bad? I don't like it.
People refer to it as ozone.
Also, I don't like
the smell of people's scalps.
Scalp is a rough smell.
Oh, that's silly.
That's, you are so silly.
You're always fighting us on this.
I like how clean
of a judgment that was.
I like that.
But it's very dirty too.
It's because she doesn't
want to shower.
Oh, that's so,
no, that's so silly.
I like that.
Bring that to our pod.
You know what I mean though, Annie, right?
Yes, but Esther is like,
you should be able to just not shower, not bathe.
Yeah, what is your, it's a scalp.
It smells bad.
Do you ever like smell someone's hat?
You like the smell?
I love the smell of my girl's scalp.
Honest to goodness, love.
Because it's a match.
But it's a match.
But like, I don't match with
other people's scalp. This is what we were talking about. When you go to
like a hot yoga class and you go into the
bathroom afterwards, there are girls that
are just drying the sweat on their head.
Why do they do that? And it wafts into the
bathroom and it is like, it's almost like
you're, they take like a hair dryer and
they dry their wet, sweaty scalp.
Fucking criminal. That's why I don't go to
after soul cycle, after soul cycle class like mind you
you're drenched similar to hot yoga
and then afterwards instead
of jumping in the shower and maybe doing
a little rinse you blow dry
the sweat on your head and it takes up the smell
takes up the whole room and I
literally want to kill somebody
dry shampoo at least something
you guys are freaking me out right
now because you just helped my memory figure out my favorite version of me and all women which is
after hot yoga or a workout class your hair is dripping sweat and then you just go about your day
and you let it dry and then you have like this sweaty dry hair now add blow dryer to that you're
drying it that's fine that, gets us there faster.
No.
No.
For different reasons.
Blow drying your hair doesn't get you where it would have gotten you had you air dried
it faster.
It's a completely different thing.
I don't blow dry my hair.
I like to dry my hair in a hat.
Not for the smell, of course, but because it helps lock in the curls.
And if you want curls, head on over to Rick and Esther have a time.
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You would be a great hairdresser. I could tell.
Why is that?
You look like you'd be a hairdresser.
I don't gossip. Hair people always, you know what I do now? When hair people almost always
gossip, you know what I do when they're doing it? I go, I don't like that. I don't like the gossip.
Do you really do that? Oh yeah. And what do they do do they do they go okay what do they gossip with you about though oh they started other actors or other people other people
on your usually if i go to a hair person it's because i'm i'm either getting my hair cut that's
the only time and i'm friends with her or if it's on set somewhere and then this is so set it's
always gossiping about people well that's bad that's a that's a bad sign if they're talking shit about someone else too
every they're gonna drag something you said over to someone else everybody talks about people and
everybody's talking about me and everyone's talking about you and you and you i don't want to be part
of it okay so i'm this i'm glad you brought this up there's a coffee shop near my house that i go
to and there's a guy that works there. And for some reason,
sometimes I'll just tell him shit I shouldn't tell him.
Or not like shouldn't, it's just like-
You should get him on the pod.
No, I'm sure he'd love it.
But a girl, there's another comic that goes there,
and he told me about her breakup.
He goes, I have to tell you some gossip.
He goes, so-and-so just went through a breakup.
And I went, oh my God, he goes, don't tell her.
I go, yeah, right. So I immediately call, I call i go dude the guy at the coffee shop just told me about
your breakup and she's like are you fucking kidding me and then i go in keeping lock and
key but then i go but then i go in and he goes you told her i go this is a cycle okay like
it's inappropriate for her to tell you her business it's inappropriate for you but for
you to think i'm not going to tell her is absolutely i will 100 complete triangulate i had the same thing with the masseuse but it's inappropriate i but i have
a problem that she has where i'm like for some reason i'm like drinking my coffee and i just
tell this guy i go why the fuck did i tell this guy this masseuse told me a friend of mine like
all this stuff about her hormones and like we're trying to conceive all this stuff and then i was
and then i told her my, and she was like,
why is she telling you that?
Because,
I'll tell you why.
Because you told the masseuse
and you told the barista.
Yes.
People don't have
their unwritten boundaries
because they think,
whatever,
I'm saying it here.
The pillow is out.
What is it?
The feather?
The feather is out of the pillow?
I don't know.
I have no clue.
Like once you,
like the feather is out of the pillow.
No, that's not what I'm saying. Look up the feathers are out of the pillow. No, that's not what I'm saying.
Look up the feathers are out of the pillow.
I believe you.
I believe I'm saying it wrong.
But do you understand the analogy?
Once it's out?
No, but I do think that's how I feel.
I am a chatty bitch.
I'm a chatty.
No, I think.
When I'm a chatty bitch,
if I say something,
I know that it's out.
It's going to people.
I accept responsibility.
Say the feathers are out of the,
you can't put the feathers back in the pillow look that up would you well that's where cat
out of the bag came right up what no he typed in cat out of the bag but why was the cat in the bag
why was the cat in the bag who's trying to put cats in before we do a bit that's not going to
play for too long will you look no but this is not a bit. This is finding out the actual... You can't put the feathers back in the pillow.
Yeah.
It's interesting that Andres knew about the cat.
Yeah, there you go.
Esther said it.
Oh, she did.
What is it?
What is the story about the gossip feather?
I mean, that's a quote.
What's that?
The story is often told that most...
It's a story.
...unus unusual penance Philip
I mean I can't read
any of these words
assigned for a woman
for a skin
for spreading gossip
anyway
when you say something
to somebody
it's now everybody
assume everybody
in the world knows it
okay
find out why the cat
was in the bag
I'd like to say
some one thing
about gossiping though
what is it I'd like to say I'm about gossiping, though. What is it?
I'd like to say...
I'm saying it's a fair origin story
to want to understand.
Yeah, see?
Thank you.
A ferret?
No, a ferret.
Like, I don't know
why the cat is out of the bag.
I was going to say...
But why was it in the bag?
My guess is
if that is
a metaphor
for spilling the beans,
my guess would be
that once people
saw the cat,
you don't need to put it
back in the bag.
Like, we've already seen
that what you snuck in here
was a cat.
Oh, you snuck it in.
I see.
Yeah, still doesn't make
that much sense,
but I will say this.
This is what I learned
about gossiping.
Flush the pennies
down the toilet then.
She wasn't here
for the mission.
In my country,
the Philippines has
no recorded serial killers
and they attribute that...
What about your family members?
No, that's just um they call that a
domestic crime of passion okay yeah but your family members are murderers yes yeah but like
obvious no serial killers not someone who has gone months they kill within the family yeah
but this is why the philippines has no serial killers is because we have a very, very efficient gossip culture.
We call it like the chismosa culture where the moms, the aunties, everyone is always saying each other's.
Chisme?
Yeah, chisme is.
Yeah.
But the Philippines was colonized for 300 years.
Duh.
In Spanish.
Sorry about that.
Yeah, the chismosa culture is basically that like you someone's going to be
busted before they're able to commit their second murder like we just don't have that because
everyone talks there your shit is not safe your secrets are not safe people which but in your
analogy it would actually makes people safe yeah so there is an upside to being gossipy or being
a chismosa hey don't get mad at the other person for saying the thing that you decided to tell them.
Unless they are inner circle.
Who was responsible for really taking Bill Cosby down?
Makeup artists, right?
People who worked in the industry, who talked about each other.
I know, how crazy is that?
He eventually talked about it like that.
I actually want to take that back.
I heard it was Bill Cosby himself because he's the one that did it oh now that he's the only one that's responsible forward
thinking i like that and you're wearing a cosby sweater so it's perfect did he wear cardigans you
like it just let it yeah poetic license join in but did he wear cardigans i think he because if
he did i'll stop wearing this i hate what he did to those women.
I thought you liked it. You thought you liked what he did.
What are you talking about, Esther? Check it out on
Esther and Rick Have a Time.
They discuss, was Bill
Cosby good or bad?
I heard he's going on tour
again. Isn't that crazy?
Who's going to open for him?
I mean, we all would.
Would you open for Bill? I would. we all would. Would you open for Bill?
I would.
Wouldn't she?
You know, if other...
Will Pryor open?
Don't worry.
The problem was that...
We see you.
You would.
I would open for him, but I would do that.
He would only let me do it once because I would go up there and I would tell that SOB,
what you did to those women was uncool, man.
Listen, if I want to sleep with a chick, what I'm going to do is I'm going to introduce myself
and hope she likes the smell of my scalp
because otherwise I don't need to put something in her drink.
That's not going to get me off.
I could be having sex with a beautiful woman
and she says she's enjoying it.
And I'm thinking, yeah,
because I put something in your drink.
That's not me.
I want to know that you love me.
You need them to say I love you first
honestly it helps me it helps
do you ever are you were you ever a one night stand
guy I have I have
experimented with it but I am not a
one man if you I feel like if you have anxiety
it's not good right I did not
like it yeah I don't either
fun I don't like
I don't
let's not even say what I don't like because the list could go on. I like connection. I like a nice smelling scalp. I like good morning breath. I like her doggy. I like liking somebody. And with that, then like, to answer your question, do you like to be dominant or do he dominated?
Okay.
He's got a good memory,
baby.
That's private.
But if you want to hear about that,
head on over to take your shoes off.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
My,
my,
I've done some episodes with my girl on Patreon and we talk about that kind of
stuff.
So head on over to patreon.com slash take your shoes off.
Is your girlfriend an actress? Where'd you meet meet her i don't want to get into it really
is that a real boundary or joke boundary uh i don't mind saying where we met but i don't want
to get too much into the personal of the relationship so i'm just gonna no will you
google nip it in the bud i used to think when i used to cyber sex as when i was 10 with other
probably 10 year olds i bet you yeah
right they definitely were not 10 they were like 47 years old we talked about this in the last
show i think you had headaches where you and uh i both admit that we uh went into chat rooms
and we before pre-puberty we probably found each other there and then you pretended you were a girl
i did guys and girls but i found that really i found that when i was a girl it what i'm not making an excuse i'm telling you the intention
that i remember it was not sexual to me it i it was not it was not for me it wasn't understand but
but i had found that that there were more i mean it's obvious now guys looking to talk to girls
and girls and talk to guys and i found that i was able to get in conversation with guys easier so what i would do is uh i would pretend that well i if i was a guy
and then it was another guy whatever i would pretend that my girlfriend was there with me
so then oh i'll let my girlfriend talk so that would be whatever and then you would just talk
about stuff and it wasn't sexual but it probably was and i didn't realize were you like looking
for friends or you're just curious about other it wasn't cyber sex it wasn't put it in my bud you know it was like wasn't for
you for me it was you still asking age sex location and sending pictures and i would look online for
pictures of girls and say this is me yeah i would you were like the og catfish you did too are you
a boy buddy what i was probably yeah 10 or 11 i was a girl i was a girl and i have to
be a girl but i was also looking only for girl pics so i don't really understand how that forever
so maybe i was a guy i don't know but i uh i i for the longest time thought pussy meant butt
what does it mean
so that's something that i can relate to and not knowing the right words but
yeah i i might i was just desperate to get as many pictures and i remember you'd have to like
wait for them to download like they would i also wanted to see how guys talk to girls
i remember that and it wasn't still it wasn't like how do you pick up a girl i was just like
oh it was very voyeuristic like i'm seeing something that i couldn't have otherwise seen and i'm seeing this thing and i just remember like
whoa do you have siblings i have an older brother how much older two and a half years
i mean at that when i was 10 can you do you guys were you friends as kids no no he was mean to you
right well the way i remember it to be fair he's not here to defend himself but the
way i remember it yeah wait have you ever been effectively catfished
in the early years of let's say myspace or zynga probably
i also always assumed when i was talking to somebody online
that like maybe this person is real okay but so you've never actually gotten to the end of it
does that mean when you finally meet somebody and you find out they're fake yeah and then you
yeah they just disappear you've fallen in love the feelings are real i've never fallen in love
but without meeting somebody i will say at that age when i was doing that engaging in that behavior
uh there was never got even close to a serious conversation about meeting up yeah i fell in deep
really deep deep um yeah so this was during my space and um there was this australian guy
we don't even know where he's from if his australian accent was real but i saw that he
was a mutual friend of my other friend in australia and i asked her the i asked her the
wrong question instead of saying have you met this person in real life i asked her do you know this
guy and she was like yeah i know him and that's all and i didn't meaning i maybe know him just
online yes yes didn't think i'm like oh then he's real and i carried on a relationship with him
texting every day calling every day long distance he would call me for about 10 months like letters
of like we're in love like we're gonna meet up in the philippines like all of these he would send me
care packages if anyone can find this no one can find him now but i remember he i remember he went
by amorcito 888 i know i have a little surprise for you.
I know where the Philippines are.
And one day I,
and he would always call me because I didn't have money
for like international calls.
One day I was just still like,
something is up.
So I called him
and I heard like a baby crying
in the background
and he was like,
wait, wait, wait,
why are you calling me? Don't call call my phone it was like really freaking weird and all of all of his
favorite songs thank god i have like a great knowledge for like 80s music so i was like oh
my god i love that song too but i remember he was like my favorite song is um caribbean queen
which is a great fucking 80s song, but he would then reference
old heart songs.
Wait, how old were you guys?
I finally got by on my
own. I never
really cared until
I met you.
How old were you?
I didn't break into the moon.
How do I leave you alone?
Oh, you were a nice him. So you were legal.
That's a great song.
I only know it
because Celine Dion covered it.
Oh, really?
But his favorite heart song.
I'm a woman on the clock.
The lightning strikes
this type of storm.
Maybe he really was the guy.
Did you have a baby back in the day?
His favorite heart song.
What?
Are you talking about the ribs? Because she said there was a baby. Oh, baby back ribs. heart song. What? Are you talking about the ribs?
Because she said there was a baby.
Oh, baby back ribs.
That song?
Have you guys seen the behind the scenes of that song?
That went viral a year ago.
It shows all the guys in the room.
They're like, I got my baby.
And it went viral.
So, I don't know.
Maybe you could use that in this.
Do you know the heart song?
All I want to do is make love to you.
All I want to do is make love.
Not my catfish no i know i was
pretending that was the boys the men's song which is another good name for your podcast if you guys
keep doing this for a year not bad boys three men wait so what oh yes so who how old who was
what who was this person i was he was legal 20, maybe 19, 20. Oh, wow. This was like four or five years ago now?
I don't know anything.
Like, he just disappeared.
And then he wrote me like a letter on my Tickle Me at Hotmail account.
And he was like, hey, I live in Florida now.
He was clearly trying to like reconnect.
But I'm like, this person's not real.
I promise you.
Make a documentary.
Meet up with him now.
You still don't know who he is?
I don't. But his pictures were of this like gorgeous like guy wait so after the baby thing yeah that
was it you had a baby so i confronted him after hearing the baby i'm like what the fuck was that
and he um my sister was like hey something's really fishy here like i think that you're being
like catfish i was like no he's real so-and-so and she's met him.
And I went back to my friend.
I was like, wait, you said you knew this guy.
She's like, no, I know him online.
Like, I've never met him in my life.
And that's when I was like, oh, okay.
Like, I'm being catfish.
And I was so humiliated and so heartbroken
because I had real feelings for this guy.
So he probably lived in Florida the whole time, right?
Or did he have an Australian accent?
Yeah, he had an Australian accent.
But he probably, I'm not kidding you.
But he sounded a little like this.
All right then.
Oh, I really like listening to hot.
I have a banana intolerance.
Me too.
I really do.
You do?
Yeah.
What about bananas?
I would make smoothies all the time.
And I was starting to
get these stomach aches and i did an elimination thing and i eliminated everything except for
the fodmap diet i didn't use that for this okay i eliminated bananas and blueberries and i was fine
and then i had to reintroduce one i reintroduced blueberries i was fine i'm assuming bananas were
the issue you know i don't know hurts to say this because I love spinach so much. But if even a tiny leaflet gets in my salad, I am doubled over in pain.
What?
Explain to Esther what a salad is.
Mama, what is salad?
I love spinach.
Can't have it.
It's crazy people are still getting catfished when you know about it.
Yeah, FaceTime them.
FaceTime them.
If they can't FaceTime, there's an issue.
I'm pro catfishing at this day and age.
We all know that it's happening.
Like we all are educated enough to know it's possible.
So at this point, if it's happening to you, you want it.
You know, you feel everyone's educated because you're educated and you're projecting that.
It takes somebody to learn a lesson.
And let's not have them learn that lesson from it happening to them.
Let's have them learn that lesson lesson
from like hearing about it but sometimes in life it's best to learn the lesson for yourself yeah
but wear a seat belt you know you don't have to learn why you wear a seat belt the hard way and
that's why this episode is brought to you by click it or ticket the u.s government one i will
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Go ahead.
Oh, no.
She cut me off.
It's good.
So, yes and no. You're about to start sweating.
The U.S. government, your mind, the gears turning.
How do I do this?
How do I do this?
I actually want to go back to this catfishing thing.
Don't you imagine a world where, let's say, maybe you have an injury.
Maybe you're stuck at home and you're bored
and that's just talking again uh you can't do much and then along comes a beautiful woman who's
wanting to chat with you on the internet you have my attention yeah i thought describe her what's
her body type well she's uh how tall is she about five seven'7". She has a slick-backed ponytail, red lipstick, some BDSM tight leather clothes on, and golden-kissed suntan skin.
How's her scalp smell?
Very clean.
Well, then all I have to say is, hello!
That's English.
How do you say it in Australian?
Hello!
How do you say Australian hello?
Hello.
Oi.
Oi there.
Oi.
Hello.
Halilah has the most experience.
Do you remember a hello?
In Australian?
No, I just remembered a whole lot of like nor.
Nor.
Nor.
Nor.
Nor.
Nor.
Nor.
Nor.
Well, let's say, wouldn't you love to just kind of lean back and lean into the fantasy
of this beautiful woman wanting to talk to you online and having a great relationship even if
you never meet up with her and it's never but it's not it's not like you're justifying something
you're doing are you catfishing people as like a charity action you're not being honest i think
what you're describing is like going to a strip club and buying into the fantasy
that this girl likes you and she is getting
paid and you're getting a lap dance or whatever it is.
Even that, I never connected to.
It's not a real connection. Oh, I hate that.
I hate guys that think they're better than strip clubs.
Me too. You know what?
I'll let you, I'll go
ahead and express your point of view
and also try and be mindful
of the judgment you're doing by saying better than,
as opposed to me saying, if it's not a real connection, it doesn't turn me on.
But I don't.
I have trouble at strip clubs too.
It's not, it's like so weird.
Can't get hard?
I hand, no, when I go in, I'm like, do you want to just, I can just give you money.
That makes sense because of you're a girl.
That makes absolute sense for me.
Because I'm not going there for the sexual experience.
Like I'm there to kind of like support athleticism.
I tried.
How many WNBA games have you gone to?
I've seen quite a few.
Flip it.
Oh my God.
What are your three favorite WNBA teams?
Sparks?
Uh-huh.
The one that you live in that city, so you know Sparks.
What are two other names?
I can see your full fucking ass.
Whatever.
Uh-huh.
I think strippers are athletes. I'm there for the show i think they're incredible and a lot of times it
really is like a very i don't know like but you're talking about their skill and their entertainment
sure i'm not judging what they do i'm saying to have a girl dance on you and give her 20 bucks
and to feel like yeah i want to buy into this fantasy this girl likes me you don't have to get a private dance you can just be there what bothers you
about that i don't know if i'm just not bothered by it it's just like i've gone to a strip club
three times in my life once when like i don't know before i even moved to california and then
two bachelor parties and the times i was there, I just remember feeling like, first of all,
maybe it's just a street where I went to.
It's just gross.
What's gross about it?
Just like,
I don't know.
It just feels.
There's like wet money everywhere.
I know.
It just feels dirty.
It feels dirty.
It just feels dirty.
There's just ugly guys
and it just feels dirty.
Also.
Ugly guys?
Are you looking in the mirror?
Good one, Esther.
I like the way Dave spells.
There's ugly guys and ugly...
By the way, nothing is grosser
than just a ton of ugly guys.
Because ugly guys...
Don't say that to Kalilah. That's her thing.
I'm an uggo chaser
but no
when they're all
in a
and they're horny
if you have a room
full of
I would throw my pussy
into that mix
so fast
fine
wait are you gonna
strip up and compete
with the strippers
are you like
ooh there's all these
like ugly
fucking horny guys
I want to finish this
I do
if the sample
is mostly ugly guys
there is something that brought them
there's a reason that they all have that thing in common there's like a loneliness there's sure but
good-looking guys i'm sure get lonely there's a there's something about it where like this is
they feel and possibly it's true this will satisfy their thing that thing that they're
trying to be satisfied is connection with what
they think is a pretty girl and or some fun titties in the face or whatever i don't connect
with that being connection i don't i don't understand that i can you know what i'll say
to your point i do find it creepy when men go there seeking some type of like sexual anything
usually the guys i go there they're kind of like sexual anything. Usually the guys I go
there, they're kind of just like, oh, those girls are pretty.
It's a whole fun situation with my friends.
But if they're really trying to get a private
dance and trying to really connect, that to me
is a little bit like... And like give them a hundred bucks, you jerk
me off. Yeah. There was a
strip club in Santa Fe. There's
like one strip club when I lived there and it's so
dark. It's all just
like men really
going to for that yeah i'm not judging sex work i want that to be if it's transactional and you
both agree to it sure but why do you have to be there but what are we we're talking are you
standing there but if if that is what esther was saying it's like you get to buy into this fantasy
that like oh you had a bad day and now here's this person that likes you that's not real but why does i guess like a lot of trying to be
pro catfish so she's definitely pro this right i forgot what that was also a lot of stuff isn't
real and it's okay that is okay if you are both on the same page for that but what i was saying
is the strip club if you remember and we could go back in case,
I said the difference is a strip club,
they're both on the same page.
And I wasn't negating that.
I'm saying, oh, that makes more sense.
But when you're catfishing, for example,
if you take a guy to the club
and he doesn't know it's a strip club
and you secretly buy a dance for him,
whoa, I was at the club doing my thing.
You know, I'm being charming, I'm best.
And then this girl
started dancing when she fucking wants my rod or whatever guys who go to strip clubs talk like i
don't know now we're trying i was completely on your side until the rod i think i don't think
that there's a guy getting like i think there's men that go and they want to buy into the fantasy
i don't but they have to know about it. Otherwise, it's... But they know. Who's that? I know. Who's that? No, I'm saying they know.
Who's hiding those secret lap dances?
They know.
Who's sliding money and going,
hey, I want you to pretend
that you didn't get paid for this.
Hey, so people...
I've seen movies...
Did you do that?
I've seen...
No, I've seen movies
where there's bachelor parties
and there's no strippers or anything.
They just go out
and they paid a girl
to fuck the guy.
That's very different.
So you're just scared
of a movie you saw.
I'm just saying... I'm saying strip clubs are fine if everybody is on the same page.
Catfishing is not because they're not on the same page.
They might be on the same page.
Then it ain't catfishing, sweetheart.
Title of the episode.
But I know what you're saying.
I like real connection.
I don't like a fake thing.
And I think strip clubs are very weird and very fake.
But I think even though everyone are buying into it, I'm like...
I'm buying into the fakeness of it.
I know.
And I can lean in the back.
Yeah, same when you go and see a Marvel movie, but you know what you're getting into.
Yeah.
I never go in there thinking it's going to somehow sexually satisfy me or my friends.
And if my friends are going in there for that, like I'm going to drop them so fast.
But what,
would you be a good stripper?
Do you think?
No,
horrible.
Esther would be good.
We play a little royalty free dance music.
By the way,
you didn't see,
by the way,
you didn't see a full stripper.
I saw some royalty free dance music.
By the way,
Rick trying to do that.
That's fine.
But Rick.
Fine.
I'm trying to let you shine.
Don't act like you don't have two skills,
making other people funny and dancing. And I'm trying to let you shine. Don't act like you don't have two skills, making other people funny and dancing,
and I'm trying to get you the second one.
Rick pretending that the argument
was always about catfishing being funny.
No, it is.
He totally...
I was so on your side.
That was the origin.
No, no, I don't want to go back to it,
but we can play back the times.
Wait, wait, wait.
Yeah, go back, go back, go back, please.
Here.
He said he didn't like strip clubs
and then tried to pretend...
Where it started with me saying
strip clubs at least are on the same page. However, I don't like strip clubs and then tried to pretend. Where it started with me saying strip clubs at least are
on the same page. However, I
don't connect with a stripper.
But you didn't. I don't.
I'm out of the finester for a second. There was a guy
who created a full... That's
an Australian accent. Him.
Called the Church of Love. And what
he did was he would write
women letters.
He was, sorry, men letters, pretending he was a woman.
Okay.
And he started creating this connection with women.
And then he started hiring people.
And this is obviously before the internet.
And this is you defending her about this man lying to women.
He created this huge company just dedicated to
have this correspondence
with women. Eventually
the scam was
found out. He was put
on trial and then all these men
went and defended him on trial
because they were so lonely
that they found that this fantasy
people... To your point.
I love that
esther can connect with that now you say all the men is that hyperbole or they found some men yes
they found okay people no no here i will say this as someone who has been catfished i was coming out
of a really lonely relationship and each time that he said to me that i cannot go on video cam
every time he said oh when i was like hey let's video chat um he when he said he could not do it
there was always suspicion there but i wasn't willing to end it because i was lonely i know
of some women so yes you might say i know my husband's cheating i just i don't want to know
about it he does his thing i'll do my thing because if they found out they'd have to face
it here's the reality a lot of humans are too uncomfortable facing their fears and their
traumas so they could get over them so sure i'm sure there are some people that don't want to
know so they get to reap the benefits of the connection without the trauma and the negative
feelings of the being shut down and lied to that doesn't mean it's a healthy thing and that doesn't mean it's something that we should
be doing to other people. My name's
Rick Glassman and I say click it
or ticket.
Where are your seatbelts?
In this country.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
I just watched you experience
being played with instead of against.
And just the fucking dopamine that got into you.
But you have to bring her down to give her this.
I don't think so.
I think she'll find a way to bring herself down.
Look at her.
Look at you're invited to the attic.
And now you're the happiest you've ever been.
She can't speak.
Esther, your ass. That's the name of this episode. Esther you're invited to the attic and now you're the happiest you've ever been. She can't speak. Esther, your ass.
That's the name of this episode.
Esther invited to the attic.
And last night Dave played Uno with me and I won a round because it's based on randomness
and not intelligence.
I bet you you're intelligent.
What comes after Uno?
Dulce.
No, you're thinking of your favorite kind of cake, right?
Oh, God.
What an ab workout.
Thank you.
I had a time.
Yep.
Siesta Eques.
What is this tool, by the way?
That looks like microneedling.
Can I feel that?
Does it feel good no yeah i bet you
that feels good you want it can i see what this is is this meant to be sexual or is this meant
to score your meat oh this is actually sharp i could get into this score your meat you guys ever
could you ever um do any type of like bdsm or be part of that community you think i like um i've
never done it sexually but i think i could get
into like people pouring wax on me wait hot wax yeah because i like when it hurts and then it
doesn't hurt right away oh that's just like when they tweeze my shins that same kind of like itchy
kind of pain are you basically saying not the same that i squirt when i get my bikini wax
you don't like a big imagine no it's a night imagine somebody waxing you that would be
and then all of a sudden um that's gotta have happened before there's no way it's got to have
happened before a girl gets waxed and then all of a sudden she squirts maybe well if if you have
gotten waxed and squirted leave comment uh comment uh esther sucks and if you haven't no no no don't say that i'm sorry
esther that was my instincts it feels bully instincts it's so fucking good yeah i like that
lock eyes with me while you do it we'll get there look her face doesn't like hey locked eyes that
she didn't like orgasm is different than squirting let's see also why does it the color like it's
been clicked already Brazilian wax make you? Have you guys looked this up before?
That was purple instead of blue.
Why is that possible?
Do you have BDSM tendencies?
Anybody out there?
So what does it stand for?
Will you look up what it stands for?
Bondage.
Bondage.
Sadomasochism, right? BD. d dick oh dominus yeah dominus doministic
dickless that's so stupid but bondage uh sex masochism i think is one sadomasochism
what does sado mean as in say memory what are there different is there different types of
masochism that people like i like fucking with masochism as long as it's the kind of masochism is what does sato mean as in samory what are there different is there different types of masochism that people like i like fucking with masochism as long as it's the kind of masochism
i enjoy fucking with maybe what like why why the specificity harvard show was telling us that
like some of these like in the bdsm community like i'm not maybe not bdsm but like some of the kinks
that people have like are really outrageous she said that she saw a guy getting like vacuum sealed like like a piece of steak and like esther coming as he was getting
vacuum sealed like his whole body was getting vacuum sealed yeah and he was like coming inside
the vacuum see that listen everyone has their own kinks and i I think it's unfair to judge them because it's private.
It's theirs.
Sure.
But also, we're human beings, and there are some things that are just so fucking weird to me.
So weird that, like, does that define the BTSM community?
You know, like.
Did you say BTSM?
Yes.
Oh, the army will get you.
What army?
BDSM. know like you say bts oh the army will get you what army bdsm like like if are there people in the bdsm community that are like spokesperson spokespeople and they're like i do this stuff
and now people like hey we don't do that you're making us all look crazy i think they did that
because army hammer um said that oh this is actually like a normal kink within this community.
And I think the community was like, no, no, no, no.
Not like when it's not saying that they like to be cannibalized.
He's not really eating people.
I know because a lot of the girls stories that they shared allegations, whatever, about their experience with Armie Hammer was like that.
He was not there was not consent he was doing
it without consent and the bdsm like special people expertises were like well i've seen i've
seen 50 shades of gray i know that you need to like yeah so that wasn't happening so people in
that community were like that doesn't count for what we do if someone is doing it against their
will speaking against their will um i'd like you
to keep army's hammer name out your motherfucking mouth uh okay that's fine with me that was a rock
against will huh what we won't be right back we're never coming back sorry last episode guys
this is it
why do you have
the same glasses as them
are you trying to like
morph in
listen Rick and Esther
have a time
we're putting a lot of eggs
in that basket
which is frozen
by the way ladies
they're already frozen
she got hers
yeah
frozen embryos
you should sell them
as merch
no I want to give them
if I don't use them
if I don't use them
if I don't use them I'm going't use them If I don't use them
I'm going to give them
To Josh Potter
To fix his eye
He can use the stem cells
Oh he can
Wait a minute
Then why not just
Give them to him
I want children
Rick
Get more eggs
Have him pay
For another harvest
Wait a minute
You have a friend
Who can get his eyes
Fixed from your eggs
Well I'm just joking
I didn't know
That you were joking
No but listen
I um
It's so crazy.
Has your girlfriend or have you ever dated a girl that froze her eggs?
I dated a girl who froze her eggs.
And it was crazy, right?
Boy, are my arms tired.
But it was crazy.
It was a lot.
I have a lot of opinions on hormones, man.
It's, it's, I'm not well yet.
I'm not well yet.
It's been a year.
You must've got your eggs harvested a decade ago.
Would you, if I pay the right price, would you let me eat one of your eggs for nutrients?
It doesn't work that way.
Only out of here.
Esther, the eggs are so small.
They're like this big.
They should be sub, they're not that big.
Yours are.
If your eggs are anything like your ego, I imagine they're unhealthily large.
Again, that is click it or thick it.
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to Rick
Richard
Dolphies
Glossman
wait I never
I never
is your
I didn't hear you
say that again
what is your full name?