TRASHFUTURE - Howard Zyn Presents: a People’s Cigstory of the United States feat. Matt Bors and Ben Clarkson

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Matt Bors and Ben Clarkson are back on the pod to talk about A.I. and right wing animation. Also, Neom influencers, Labour MP’s loving bribes, and Tucker Carlson’s come to Jesus moment that Zyns�� are soy. You can buy Justice Warriors 2 here! https://membership.thenib.com/products/justice-warriors-jts73 If you want access to our Patreon bonus episodes, early releases of free episodes, and powerful Discord server, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s UK Tour Here: https://miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and November (@postoctobrist)

🎵 My dentist is an anti-vax guy. Oh, that's good. Which I found out because he took some photos of his work on my teeth and was like hey can I post these to like dentists Instagram because these are gonna be huge they're really gonna like make my career and stuff because your teeth were fucked up before and now they're like slightly less fucked up I'm like yeah sure fine so I go looking for the guy by name on Instagram

yeah yeah well I mean he doesn't show me the photo he's taken and it's got like a ring flash and like a macro lens, so he's really in on the teeth, right? So I want to see how fucked up the before photo is. So I go looking and like, obviously the caption is like, you know, 33 year old female patient with the worst fucked up like horse who has been kicked in the face by another horse teeth in the world. We made it look, you know, not so bad. But also this horse has been kicked in the mouth by another horse. Yeah, this is sort of the theme of one of the weirdest CSI spin-offs. But yeah, and I find that my dentist is also posting about the fucking plandemic and, uh, you know, 5G and George Soros.

And I'm like, uh, okay then, I guess. Well, this is, this is what like the Institute of Economic Affairs, they're like, you know, like all the party conferences right now, advancing their arguments for like, anyone should be able to be dentists. So there should just, there's just going to be more of this rather than last down for us. He's not a bad dentist. He's just a dentist who does not believe that the novel coronavirus is real or was maybe like created in a lab by George Soros.

I like the idea of like a homeopathic dentist. Yes. So they do like a little bit of dentistry. They like give you like one scrape with the little like dental thing. You know, we got to dilute it. Water has memory of a dentist. Water picks. It all adds up guys. They inject your teeth with a tiny bit of Harry bow.

Hi everybody. Welcome to TF. It is Riley and we have a very, very, very full house today. It is Nova Milo. Who's just, when we were talking about dentists, cause he's just been to the dentist. He said two wisdom teeth removed, but by gum, he's here. He's been more gum than ever before. Yeah, that's right. They gave him the Charlie Kirk. He's all gum now. And of course, Hussein. And we are joined for the second time by Matt Boris and Ben Clarkson, authors of Justice

Warriors. And now Justice Warriors 2. Matt and Ben, how's it going? Good, thanks for having us. We're doing great. We're ready to talk about dentistry, mouths. I prepped entirely on mouths and Instagram dentists. So I feel prepared. I've been a long time subscriber to five or six OnlyFans accounts that are just teeth. Hello and welcome to Teeth Future.

That's right. And I've sort of assembled a series of very Justice Warriors adjacent stories. We've got some neon every story, kind of like a tooth in a mouth that this podcast is. I'm pretty sure we've got a single one of these stories is straight out of a page of our new book, Justice Warriors Vote Harder. It's absurd.

What I find really frustrating is that while I was sitting down to record this episode, I just noticed on my various Google alerts for things, that Business Insider recently published an article called Inside the Billionaire Bunker about the secret part of Miami where only billionaires live and how well it's guarded. And I was like, fuck, that would be very good for this.

But we're going to have to talk about it another time. However, we got a lot. We got some neon. We've got some Oracle. And of course, it wouldn't be us talking with Matt and Ben if we did not advance from where we previously left off with them, which is, of course, talking about the various strange QAnon cartoonists that were up and down Britain. We've, of course, got some more right wing cartoons for you towards the end of the episode, but I want to start us off by talking about one

story that has really tickled me. Because, can I just say, like, has anybody else noticed that like, zins are actually for girls now? Yeah. Not for macho. By zin, you mean the little like, tobacco pouches? Original zin. Yes. Yeah, I had to look up what a Zin was. What the fuck is Zin?

I know about this because of, well, there's your problem. It's like snus, right? Because like, you can't smoke anywhere anymore. Yeah, Zin is a lot like snus. Like, yeah. Yeah. So snus is this like, I guess like Norwegian form of like tobacco consumption.

Because if you can't smoke anywhere, what you do is you keep a little permeable pouch of tobacco inside your lip, like dipping tobacco, except you don't have to spit. And it gives you like 15 different lip cancers that are never seen in someone who doesn't do snus. When I was in high school, we had something called bandits. That was the same thing, that we would put in our lips and all do it during class. So as Zin, a bandit, and a snus are all the same thing, that we would put in our lips and like all do it during class. So a zin, a bandit, and a snooze are all the same thing.

I'm caught up. Mmhmm. Correct. Yeah. In the UK they're called like, Velo's or something, but everyone still calls them zin. Such is the power of American Empire. Yeah, cause like, Kirsten's making it so that you can't smoke or vape even outside places now.

Which is most of the, like, spatial, like, geography of the United Kingdom is either places or outside places. Oh, I'm glad he's got his priorities straight. Yeah. Real, real success this guy. I think this is all, for me, spiritually related to the 50 basis point rate cut. Oh, yeah, okay, Okay. Sure. Right. The 50 basis point interest rate cut means that like these things are now more possible, which is that Tucker Carlson, we

all remember Tucker Carlson has for the last couple of years decided I love Zen. I'm going to make myself an unofficial spokesman for Zen. Huge Zen head. Yeah. I'm going to go on like Theo Vaughn's podcast and I'm going to say the following. The truth is Zin is a powerful work enhancer and also a male enhancer, Carlson said, if you know what I mean, waggling his eyebrows theatrically. It's so funny that he has to do this because he like was bad at Fox News court politics. He was ended up being like the kind of bit character in succession. You've been fucking exiled from like Castleormenghast because you couldn't please four of the most

psycho-Australians in history. And now as a result you have to go around saying that your little snooze pack makes your dick work better. Yeah, and now you're saddling up to the Zin-vizar. Vizier. The Zin-vizier. The Zin-zier. You've been exiled to the Zindim.

Yeah. Keir Starmer's new Zinzar. Zinzar promotes method of nicotine consumption with no tar. It'll go far. Basically, what happened though is, Ben, as you say, Carlson was like, hey, I have like no money left because like, as you say, November, I couldn't please money left because like I got, as you say November, I couldn't please like the foremost evil Australians in history. Yeah. I came onto the set of succession wearing a kind of like Jester's outfit. My hat was jingling too much. And now as a result, I have to do this.

So he pitched Philip Morris to form a partnership with Zin, like Tucker Carlson present Zins. However, unfortunately, you cannot legally make false medical claims about a tobacco product. So Philip Morris was like, Oh fuck, I've got to delete some posts. So Philip Morris said, well, we understand that these may be Mr. Carlson's views. These statements lack a scientific foundation. And given his reach, these statements could promote a misunderstanding and misuse of our products to get dressed down by a tobacco company

I feel like if Philip Morris publicly corrects your product claims You have to be fined one quarter of your wealth on the first offense just one quarter Just it's it's so funny to be like the company that sort of like spent decades obscuring any of the like medical evidence for tobacco being harmful, being like, this is an insult to the science what you're doing here, Tucker Carlson. Tucker, we're begging you. It doesn't make you fuck harder. Tucker, we want you to sell it.

We're just bending it. There may be some serious questions about tobacco's relationship to lung cancer, but it does not make you fuck good. So the Surgeon General's warnings, maybe this was only in Canada, some of them would be quite illustrative of the consequences of smoking. I remember one was a cigarette that had an ash chimney on it in the shape of a flaccid penis that was like cigarettes. Yeah, we had that too.

I love that one. It's a good illustration. When I was still smoking, I used to be like, yeah, yeah, skip the long one. Give me that one. Because I wanted that to happen anyway. That's the only ad that the tobacco companies were like, no, this one's really important that we put it on there. No one can think this makes your dick.

I love how they're just like, we want to give you the bag, Tucker. We really want to give you the bag. Just stop exposing us to liability. Right? Yeah, in Russia, they used to have a cigarette packet where it just said, it said the Russian for impotence. we really want to give you the bag. Just stop exposing us to liability. Right. Yeah. In Russia, they used to have a cigarette packet where it just said, it said the Russian for impotence on it. And then it just had a man standing there with a woman's hand superimposed doing a thumbs down in front of his crotch, which I thought was real good. If you thumbs down someone's dick, that's a real like, that's a real energy, you know? I don't know how you're coming back from that. Yeah. I don't know how you sell that product. I mean, I'm

not thrilled about a thumbs up either, to be honest. Oh, the Russian cigarette warnings were awesome. They were so like aggro. There was one that just said, which meant suffering and it had just like a general picture of like fucked up flesh. That's still metal. Yeah. They just, they just brand a lot of Russian products with that, you know. Contains 4% suffering. I just, I just, I'm really taken with the idea of like exposing your penis and someone giving it like a double thumbs up. Nostrovia!

Yeah, just like you go home with somebody, you take out your penis, they're just like, boo! Yeah, throwing rotten tomatoes at my penis from across the room. I've installed the Eurovision anti-booing technology in my apartment. Carlson, of course, was infuriated by this. And now because interest rates are low, the following was able to happen. Of course, I wasn't making a medical claim about their product. I was just joking. He said to the New York Times which called him Huh? I was joking. I don't fuck at all. Certainly not hard. Yeah, look I get the thumbs down no matter what

So I thought I'm gonna launch my own product. That's not controlled by humorless left-wing drone famously left-wing Philip The radical left over at Philip Morris. So you're telling me that right now I could have access to an anti woke snooze. Yes. It's called Alp. Okay. I was feeling very normal. Once then I took this dipping. Sorry, I just have to wait.

I have an Alp in. So my ED Alp is a snooze that is post-Zin. Yeah. It's a post-Zin snooze. It's a post-Zin un-w a snooze that is post-Zin. Yeah, it's a post-Zin snooze. It's a post-Zin unwoke snooze. Keep up. That's right. It's so cool how they changed interest rates and now we have to talk like this again.

So two weeks ago, Carlson said he received his first batch of Alp, quote, I'll never go back. He put a mint flavored pouch in his cheek as he spoke. They're absolutely delicious. He then went on to say, Zin is a ladies brand. It's more like Virginia Slims. It's the Virginia Slims of snooze." And to be clear, and this is a medical claim, this guy is gonna get a rare form of lip cancer

from doing this. Oh, maybe he'll shut up. I mean, you would hope so, you know? Zin is soy, but the... Zin is soy, but the Alp is Chad. Yeah. And then Velo is neutral. I would say that the Chad Alp kind of mugs the soy-wog Zin in the snooze game.

But Alp brings to mind the Swiss Alps, which are not, in my mind, Chad or Unwoke. I mean, they're pretty unwoke up there, I've gotta tell you. I don't know, they're tall, which is good for the ED. Everyone who lives in the Swiss Alps marches once a year with an ancestral hall bird into the nearest city to again turn down women having the right to vote So like in that sense, Tucker Carlson isn't wrong. Yeah. To get Swiss citizenship, you actually have to have five Alps in your gum at the time and you have to recite a list of your least favorite races until everyone is satisfied that you can come in.

This is just how everyone who speaks Swiss German talks anyway, to be fair. So he went on, he went on, talking to Philip Morris is like getting a scolding and hectoring from my fourth grade homeroom teacher. That makes it sound like it's a guy. Yeah. I've been talking to Philip Morris. Zin is just not a brand for men. I'm sorry.

He then conceded, not all women scold in Hector, going on to say, but all cool women will be using Alp. This guy's so good at marketing. You know, he navigated this situation perfectly. It's like watching the master at work, you know? Yeah. Definitely not someone who's just like has to sort of survive kind of a little bit in the wild and not in captivity for the first time.

Yeah. I mean, it really is interesting how much it all, they're all like this. If you cut the support system off, like outside of the kind of like giant baby incubator of Fox news, they all have these instincts and they're all just ending up stumbling into things like un-woke snooze. What many people don't know is that the difference between Alp and snooze is that Alp is toasted. I also saw season one of Mad Men. I only saw one episode, I saw like whatever that episode was and I was like, okay, I've seen, I've seen the rest of it.

Don Draper is very cool and would do like a kind of a based, a based snooze. Yeah. I would love to have access to like Tucker Carlson's inner monologue in the, in the like split second before he said that second bit, like where he just suddenly realizes that he might want to have sex ever again in his life before having not all women are hideous crones of course. I'm counting down in my head until we see the, you know, the like based Chad yes meme guy? That but with like a really bulging lower lip from all of the like outs he's got in. Having it removed from lip cancer. So I going to say, official TF call to action. I want to see how this goes.

I'm interested in Alp news. I want to see if it ever gets launched. I signed up to be a VIP, guys. I'm on the list. I'm interested in developments in Alp. We're going to be following the Alp saga quite closely, as we see if Tucker Carlson really is able to take advantage of a slightly easier borrowing environment to try to make zin for

men. The ups and downs of Alp. The show email address, the mailing lists that are on that, like, an email account was never meant to suffer like that. Yeah. I wanna move on. I wanna talk a little bit about a note on UK politics. Don't worry, you guys are going to get a kick out of it. And then to move on, of course, to one of

the more Justice Warriors things we'll really ever talk about. So a moment of UK news, Bridget Philipson. Education secretary Bridget Philipson explains why she accepted free Taylor Swift tickets earlier this year for Matt and Ben. Everybody in the government has been caught taking bribes, essentially. Yeah. It's illegal for them to do that. But like, what's happened is they've all been given free stuff by billionaires and hedge funds. And then- For years, by the way. And then they've gone, it's legal that we did this because we like declared it. We put it in the big like, you know, register of interests and we don't understand why you're mad at us that we did this.

Precisely. And I don't want to just end up being like the labor bungs reporting show, right? But this was too good for me not to talk about. So education secretary, Bridget Phillipson at labor conference, where again, all she wants to do is be like, we've invented a new kind of Academy to turn like quote unquote underperforming schools into that will like privatize it in a new and different way from the Tories. That's all she wants to talk about. But because she accepted these free Taylor Swift tickets, that's all journalists want to ask her about. So she then, when asked, when pressed on this, she said, well, it was hard to turn down because

one of my children was quite keen to go. Meaning we've now heard my favorite response to being bribed, which is what if I really, really wanted what they were bribing me with? What if they were bribing me with something really good? Yeah, it turns out that they cheated by bribing me with something that I wanted. Yeah, they offered me a delicious pie cooling on a windowsill, and who could resist such a treat? Who's amongst us?

Yeah, it's just, yeah, I was just like, look, look, I understand. You think I've taken a bribe. What you didn't understand is I really wanted it. I really love the idea of like someone who is setting out to bribe a politician, but out of a sense of fair play is only trying to bribe them with stuff that sucks. Yeah. That's the person that bribed Matt Hancock. Terrible stuff. Just like out of his sense of honor is just like,

do you want some small furniture? They offered't understand they offered me zines which are for women. Do we know who offered the tickets by the way? Yeah it was the one guy that's bribing everybody in the Labour Party who's just this one billionaire. A little suspicious though. He's been buying all of their clothes. Like that's not a joke. One billionaire has been buying like the Prime minister, the deputy prime minister, the chancellor He's been buying them all all of their clothes

I'm sorry your government needs to get some self-respect and be harder and ask for better things I mean the thing is they don't even dress well the whole government are in the pocket of Big Trini and Susanna They dress like shit like we keep hearing about like this guy who gave Kirstama like 20,000 pounds to spend on suits and the suits don't look good. Like I want, I keep coming back to high fashion Kirstama, but I want Kirstama head to toe Prada for that money. And he's out there just dressed like Jordan Peterson every day. Jordan Peterson has more of a vision than Kirstama.

He's got a vibe. You're right. He has a vibe. Are any of these politicians alped up? I mean, I would hope that given how based we want our politicians to be, they're all alping at all times. I mean, based on knowing our politicians, I could tell you that if you read that segment to health secretary West reading, he would immediately try and find an Alp and then theatrically pack six of them into his gum in front of a journalist.

Yeah. I asked Kier Starmer about the suits and he just like spits an Alp at me. Yeah, like a squids ink. No, but however, it's actually not all that one Lord. It's now been revealed again because the donation came at the exact right time, they didn't have to reveal it for a while, the Scottish Labour leader Anna Sarwar and Ian Murray both were taken by like a salmon farm to go see like Liverpool play Bournemouth in a box. Like a salmon farm! Why are they so cheap to buy? To get the salmon subsidies, I guess. What the fuck is wrong with this country? I mean, look, two great fishing towns.

It all makes sense, you know? It's also like, all of a sudden, just because I'm a politician, I'm supposed to just turn down every time someone wants to do something nice for me. Fucking yes! Yeah, they seem so resentful about this too, like now that people are noticing this, they're just like, and I was supposed to what, not go to the Taylor Swift concert. Yeah. My child would have been a bitch about it. God damn.

As a parent, I understand. You don't understand how mad my kid gets. Yeah. You got to give your kids exactly what they want. Democracy be damned. Not all of my children are hideous crones, of course, but that one is. I hasten to add. The cool ones are all doing out. One of my awful daughters still packing Zin like a kind of Hector ring left wing cat lady. Yeah. I mean, I, I used to like, uh, go with

the Zin and then school and I got bullied a lot by the Alp kids, but you know, ultimately you get through it. Yeah. I'm, I'm actually suffering former Zin kid burnout. And you guys got to just shake it off as Taylor Swift says. That's right. Okay. I waiting for a labor frontbencher to quote Taylor Swift, because they're all being given Taylor Swift tickets. Keir Starmer got Taylor Swift tickets. Several other frontbenchers got Taylor Swift tickets. Didn't the council like subsidize one of her concerts for like 40,000 pounds too?

What is with your state and supporting Taylor Swift? We just like her. We wanted to have a little walking around money. She's also the only thing that's causing any economic growth in this country. That's right. There's nothing else. This is very Justice Warriors. And so in a lot of ways, the best defense of it would have just been, well, Taylor Swift

is the closest thing that we have to a utility in this country. And therefore we were just showing our support and investment in it. Everything else is just guys trying to start snooze companies and shit. It's nothing. I mean, basically, yeah. Basically, yeah. The rest of it is just various scams. And so she's kind of the only legitimate business.

The only Labour politician I will respect is the one who got free tickets from a billionaire to go and see the white guy from Kent who wraps in a Jamaican accent. That is, that is the move. That is the man who should be PM Milo with the cost of that gift be above the 25 pound limit where you have to declare it on your register of members. I don't think it would be part of the fun. It's also, it's very funny, right? Because this is also was all happening with the conservatives and it took a while for it to be noticed by the papers and the papers just say, okay, we've now decided this is a scandal. So we're going to be talking about it in like scandalous terms now. And then for the Tories approval rating to plummet,

it's happened with labor in like four weeks. It happened in less than a summer break. And if you think about it, every single British administration since David Cameron's second term has essentially completely fallen apart upon contact with reality. Because they can't stop taking bribes or like doing illegal shit. But it's their chance to shine guys.. What else? What's their future? They're going to govern? Yeah. Come on. We already have decided, we have agreed that we have to fix public services, but also without

spending money or ending the financial services in London based Bonanza for the very wealthiest in the country. So if you don't have an idea to do that, just get as many like- Get your zin. Get as many like- Get free zins. Get free Alps if you're that way politically inclined. Get your concert tickets, get your Keir Stammer, get your like, you know, like Rick Owens puffer jackets.

Yeah. I mean, yeah. Geo baskets. That's why I've got this high fade and a pocket full of zines. Technically they're Velo's, but I call them zines because I'm very online. Me and Tyrone Dylan Sussman are doing cocaine at London Fashion Week. He carries it in, in the platform of his giant high heel. Backstage at Taylor Swift, they're calling me Osama Zin Laden, because I've always got those zins on me. And I disappear after two shots. Can dental anesthetic be a kind of performance enhancing drug?

Apparently so. You could work up a deal. I was, I was losing it in the supermarket earlier. The dense aesthetic made me like slightly loopy, but like not loopy enough to, and I was just trying to find the right bag of potatoes. And at that point the drooling kicked in and then I started like maniacally laughing at myself because I realized that to other people, it looked like I was just really hungry. Then I was like, Milo, can you please stop? Yeah. I don't think we're going to do better than Osama Zinlade. No, it's over. I'm retiring after this.

I'm just going to pitch the book now. We'll turn it off. Anyway, good to see labor is still enjoying the fruits of governing, if not the governing. The conference is happening right now. And it's like, they're doing what they always wanted to do, which is like boo and heckle against pro-Palestine protesters, and then have round tables on the future of the zero hours contract wanted to do, which is like boo and heckle against like pro Palestine protesters. And

then like have round tables on like the future of the zero hours contract with like sponsored by Bolton Deliveroo. Like they're doing that. They're doing what they want to do. Transphobic fringe events and stuff. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. The ones who are like, Hey, we infiltrated the party and you guys love us. What about a Zenro hours contract where you're paid in snooze? But like if you make your pulp entire political operation up out of lobbyists, then of course the people who are there are going to be expecting lobbying. Like that's of course the transformation of the labor party into a thing for lobbyists. Again, not that it was great under like,

but the party itself was sort of terrible in different ways for a lot of the time. But this specific way in which it's awful now is a symptom of it being an organization buy in for lobbyists. And so, you know, of course, I find it very funny. Like, you know that a political project in the UK is considered to be dead when its leader is being put on notice until he gets a grip. Every single leader of every like of the British state for the last about decade has been put on notice until he gets a grip by someone because getting a grip is basically like you haven't figured out a way to fix

public services while not ending the financial services in London based Bonanza for the very wealthiest. So you're going to be told that you need to get a grip and you're on notice until that time, which means it's going to be basically the SuNAC premiership for another five years. Because there's no alternative. There's no alternative. They're unwilling to disassemble the plumbing that runs the system. You'll open up a valve here, you'll close a valve there. It's just going to keep flowing and operating on its own. Oh yeah. So this is the most they can do really. It's going to be take bribes. That's what

they can manage. Yeah, great. It's their turn to take the bribes now. That's how the system works. We're leaving that behind. We're going to go back across the Atlantic to the US. The United Snus of America. Leave the Alps behind. That's right. Where, once again, just looking at earnings call transcripts. Because remember, one of the last times we looked at an earnings call transcript,

we had the CEO of Redfin talking about drinking blood and pee to financial analysts. And now we're going to have Larry Ellison, the CEO of Redfin talking about drinking blood and pee to a financial analyst. And now we're going to have Larry Ellison, the CEO of Oracle. What's he going to drink? Well, he is, I would just say, loosely riffing. This is one of the richest men in the world. He's worth $174 billion. He's 80 years old, but he looks and moves like D aged Robert De Niro in the Irishman. Yeah, it's a bit uncanny. Yeah. He's one of these like people who wants to live forever.

He once said, death doesn't make sense to me. How can a person just be there and then not be there? This is kindergarten stuff. This is literally kindergarten stuff. Yeah, this is something I explained to my four year old. Taking him aside like a kind of like a child. Oh, he doesn't have object permanence. Peekaboo doesn't make

sense to me. Okay, the one that your mother's there, then she's gone. I don't understand. So, uh, Ellison also who's like kids are inescapable. Are they really fast? Annapurna pictures was started by his daughter and then his son David is about to become CEO of Paramount. Cool. Okay. So they're inescapable in media. And yeah, he's like a tyrant blood sucking billionaire who is going through the blood boy treatment to like live forever. He looks like a shiny blood balloon and as I said, moves like Robert De Niro in the Irishman. Remember the days when blood sucking billionaire used to be metaphorical. So what did he recently say at the Oracle earnings call for analysts? He said, AI is

hot and databases, they are not. So we got a little hot or not from Larry Ellison. AI looking fuckable. Wait, infected with the spirit of Catlin Moran? What is going on? So what is Oracle, a database and cloud outsourcing company, to do? He said, some of the biggest names in cloud computing, Elon Musk's Grok, for example, is using Oracle to run AI infrastructure, if not training data, saying, quote, if Elon and Satya Nadella from Microsoft want to pick us, that's a good sign. We have valuable and differentiated technology. But Ellison says there needs to be more. And one of his ideal uses of Oracle's differentiated offering, maximizing AI's public security

capabilities. So you're telling me that Saudi Arabia financed Elon Musk to build a giant network system to support this other billionaire. And it's also integrated family wise into a massive entertainment and media complex. So you're basically just... So Oracle is just an appendage of the deep state. This is all just an international financial conspiracy. Essentially, yeah. With AI especially, it's everyone who has the money to create their own is using a huge amount of hardware purchasing and renting from the people who have the money to make the actual hardware like Nvidia or Oracle or Microsoft, which is doing both. And a huge amount of the investment

in both does come from the Saudis or Mubidala and other sovereign wealth funds. Yeah, because all of the capacity for Grok is just Saudi money. That's just oil turned into GPUs. And then in the case of South Memphis, turned back into oil because they have so many methane generators running at the same time to make the memes, which we've talked about in the past. Yes, I know data centers have lots of different power failovers, but you are just putting like nine methane generators in a very polluted area. And like the physical plant guy in me is like, okay, it makes sense that maybe it's not in that phase of the development of the facility. And that's why they're, they're portable methane generators. But still, like,

I know they're portable methane generators, because if they get planted in one area, exactly, because if they move them, they don't need a permit for them. Yeah, I saw that. I, but it's just like, there is no plan at the end of this. I don't want to get too much into the AI side of it, but like, it's, it's just crazy to me that it's, there's no capitalism at this level. It's all just like Saudi money flowing back into itself, back and forth in this like slush fund at the top of tech. It's a, at this point you could say it's the- It's the alp economy.

I mean, so you like about the Saudis, those are not woke guys. No. Mohammed Zin Salman? You can't keep getting away with this! What is it about these names that lend themselves to Zinning so well? No one can say. No one can say. Yeah.

Ellison said, AI will quote, ensure citizens are on their best behavior at all times. Oh good. Not dystopian. Uh huh. I love to be that. Yeah. How does he plan to do this? You might ask. He says that AI in the future using Oracle infrastructure will constantly watch and analyze vast surveillance systems and integrate data analysis all at once, including security cameras, police body worn cameras, doorbell cameras, and vehicle sensors. He said, we have to have supervision. Every police officer has to be supervised at all times. And if there's a problem, AI will report that problem up to the appropriate person. And then all citizens

will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on all the time. Oh, cool. Minority report. Yeah. I'm all for personal responsibility now, uh, chewing out and taking names. Mm-hmm. I'm here to chew out and take names and all of, alp. I've just spat my last alp at a journalist. I don't know what could go wrong with large language models watching cops.

They're learning. Yeah. wrong with large language models watching cops. They're learning. But he says, basically, the idea is, if you have a police body worn camera that is always on and that you can't turn off because even if you say, Oracle, I need to, as the police officer, you would just say, he's really thought of a whole tech stack, by the way.

This is why I like earnings calls, because he's like, he was just riffing. He was just up there, high on like, you know,, teen blood and just letting the ideas flow to the financial analyst. It's not impossible that this gets built too. Like this is basically what you want out of the, because as I've been looking at AI, there is like a logic to this. Everyone's starting with an image generator, right? You're trying to get from like concept to image. And then there is from that down to the line, like the strawberry model at open AI, trying to understand some sort of concept or recursion to it, uh,

whether or not they can actually do that is a huge step because it's already like exponentially outgrown all of the infrastructure they have. And they're basically doing something a worm can do. Like, it's total bullshit. Don't forget the training data! And they're polluting their training data at the same time. Like, it is really crazy, the... But at the same time, like, will they just use this as an excuse to just record everything that we're doing at all times anyways? Which becomes more training data.

It's called Oracle. It's gotta know everything. I know! It's like Oracle, Palantir, come on! You got to have the, this is like building the torment nexus. We were hoping the investment requirements of this would be Zincremental, but that turned out to be Alps Financial. So, the second one's a bit of a reach. So, here's the quote, by the way, which was transcribed in its entirety by 404 media columnist and former guest of the show Jason Keebler. A police officer could say, quote, Oracle, I need two minutes to take a bathroom break and we'll say we'll turn it off, but the truth is we won't really turn it off. What we'll do is we'll record the bathroom break, but then no one can see

it. We're going to know a lot about cop dicks. Like too much, like an unsettling amount. Thumbs down. If you're into piss play, you're gonna need a corridor organ to see these hogs. Yeah. I'm just really into the idea that like, this is the first thing that we train it on, and so we just get a kind of piss fixated panopticon guard who views everything through the lens of like a cop's bathroom break. The biggest issue we came up against was who would want to review these images

of cops pissing and shitting. So we have a team of specialist Germans that we've flown off. It's I'm living. The truth is we don't turn it off. We record it so no one can see it, but then no one can go into the recording for the court order. So you get the privacy you requested, but a judge will order that so-called bathroom break to be revealed. If something comes up, you'd say, Oh, I'm going to lunch with my friends Oracle. I need an hour of privacy for lunch with you requested, but a judge will order that so-called bathroom break to be revealed if something comes up. You'd say, oh, I'm going to lunch with my friends. Oracle, I need an hour of privacy for lunch with my friends. Like, cops don't need to, like, fake a piss break to get out of their body cams.

They just turn them off whenever, or just cover them up, or just do the misconduct and wait to get exonerated anyway. Yes, or the judge just doesn't ask for it. The judge is the weak point, too. Do we think street cops are like, hey, I was just gonna go meet up with an old friend of mine for lunch for an hour, you don't mind? I'll be back. That's how street cops work, right? This is the type of shit Serpico was doing, and this is why he got shot, you know? Yeah, because they didn't put the little oracle camera in his hat.

Yeah. Sorry, sorry, Lieutenant, I got a bottomless brunch with a girl. I'm gonna be back in a couple hours. It's a new drag brunch. So it says, we won't listen in unless there's a court order, but AI will constantly be monitoring video. AI also gets everything extremely comically wrong. What if it decides that the sound of your like cop piss sounds to it like what it imagines misconduct to be and you get Serpicoat off of it? What then?

B- Yeah. Yeah. What if your piss video goes all the way to the mayor? L- Exactly. Yeah. B- Ellison also says he expects AI drones to replace police cars and high-speed chases. L- Just four cops clinging to the bottom of a drone. B- Yeah. Again, this isinging to the bottom of a drone. Yeah. Again, this is from Jason, who transcribed this. We have drones. A drone gets out there way faster than a police car.

You shouldn't have high speed chases with cars. You just have the drone follow the car. It's very simple. That's right. A new generation of autonomous drones. Or let's say someone has an unattended campfire that caught fire. We can fix that.

It's all about autonomous with AI. But he's just reinvented following a car with a police helicopter, which they already do. Yeah, but drones are cheaper. We even do that here and we have no money. You don't have to pay a human being to do this. Oh, I see. Yeah. This is defunding the police. This is good. Outsourcing it to a private company. Larry Ellison. Woke. He's got a Zin in his mouth.

Check it for Zins, boys. Larry Ellison. Whoa. Yeah. He's got a sin in his mouth. Check it for sins. Larry Ellison. They're going to have to change his name to Larry Elly out. Yeah. What he seems to be envisioning, right, is a huge amount of compute happening at Oracle's data centers that is taking in footage of everywhere all at once, all the time. I love that movie. And yeah, everything all at once all the time. And then I'm using that also to like control a fleet of drones that will carpet the sky and then occasionally just if they think that there's a campfire that's unattended, blast it with water.

In another life I'd have loved doing zines and watching cops take a shit with you. This is how Batman found the Joker in The Dark Knight Rises. Right? This is like he had a supercomputer just monitor everything in the entire city and was just like there. I'm only gonna do this once because it's the Joker, but he found him. I get Larry Ellison just like woozy from having a hundred and fifty percent too much blood. It was just like, I don't know, we'll do Batman. What if we did Batman? You people like that, right?

Make my company worth more upgraded from a hold to a buy. I've got to use the computer again. I've lost my sins. You can't you can't do it. Get out of my way. Master White, I can't believe you've gone woke. Batman Bezin. Say you've got to piss and it will turn off.

Batman's body can't. It won't record all your piss in the bat suit. I want to move on to one more topic before we talk a little bit about right wing cartoons. I know you guys also are obsessed with Neom. I love Neom. I'm Neom Tilde. It's basically the basis of Bubble City in our comic. We predated Neom.

Bubble City was before Neom. They copied us. We have a court order. comic. We predated Neom. Bubble City was before Neom. They copied us. We have a court order. We have a lien against Neom. That's true. We are the Zin to their Alps. Yes. You're going to file a Zin Junction.

I'll never retire on it. I'm so happy that I put that Tucker Carlson thing up front. A really inspired piece of show running by me. But I want to talk a little bit about this crop of Neom influencers because my goodness did like Nadim Al Nasser or like someone who works for someone who works for someone who works for him decided like, Hey, we have a lot of like white South Africans, Canadians, Australians and stuff, living in what is essentially a kind of like mining community in, in Northwest Saudi Arabia.

We need to- Intentional mining community. Yeah. It turns out that there's been a real deficit of hype, is what it is, what there's been, right? Like for a while we could go to like a Biennale or whatever, because Europeans love to hold those, and be like, come and live in Neom, it's gonna be cool. Given that we haven't built anything yet, no one's doing that anymore, so now we have

to try something else. Nathanael That's slightly unfair. They have built a mall, a dining hall, there's a tennis court, and then a tennis court. There's a bus route that goes from where the dorms are to the mall. See, we don't have those in the West anymore. Malls, buses. I mean, most cities don't have this stuff anymore. This is what they took from us. We used to be able to live like Neon. There were a few

posted. There was one that was really popular, one that really did the rounds, which was a South African lady with her two kids that have names like Cory and Trevor. I don't know. We're just like, yeah, this is a day of my life in Neom. My husband's works in construction. So I'm going to record myself going to the communal dining hall, which looks fucking terrible. Trevor, you've got to hurry up. We're going to buy blackface supplies at the mall. If you don't hurry up, I'll take away your zin. Then you won't be laughing. It'll be only Alp for you. So it's like going to a dining hall and then going back home and going to bed and trying

to make that aspirational. I love the entire idea and the aesthetic behind these types of videos, which I guess became popular like when during the pandemic, like people doing that like day in the life of me, I like my adult daycare job, usually in tech or whatever marketing or something where they just, they don't really do a lot. So they just document themselves like making smoothies and walking and they talk calmly and there's like lo-fi beats playing in the background. Right. When did that come?

I'm talking about. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I remember. I remember a few of these. I love that it's basically just a daycare. It's a holding pattern for Rhodesians. It's a daycare city. Daycare city for Rhodesians. It's a daycare city. I mean, it's like you go, everything is provided for you, everything's walkable. I mean, the people who work the Starbucks that they're going to presumably are, you know, driving back to wherever the hell they live. They're in the, they're in the, they're in the uz of, of Neom already. They already have a slum. They would already have a slum in Neom. This is a day in the life of me, the bone saw guy in the Saudi embassy. Okay, so the

hardest part of the day is getting the guy into the suitcase. Cause I don't care what anyone tells you, you're going to need a big suitcase or a very small guy. You also have to hydrate afterwards, you know, cause you can, so like you've got to go get your smoothies with the electrolytes and stuff. You're going to want a wheelie suitcase. These guys weigh like 80, 90 kilos. I always take my daily out before my Starbucks because if I take it after my coffee, the taste is gross. Did you guys check out some of the other videos though? Like from Gigi Neom, one of the few people that's still posting or selfie-photographing?

I watched a lot of these and this person has problems with their brain. Like, why do they think that this is an appealing life? I'm sorry. It's like one street over and over again. Like it would drive you to drink, but you know, the Saudis. It's an American suburb, but with small houses and largely South Africans. And no alcohol.

How can they survive? Zins. Zins. They have no anxiety because everything is just provided for them. I'm so depressed and neon I got addicted to dates. So another vlogger called Ada McPherson basically like made a bunch of videos where she goes to Starbucks in the morning to catch up with like the the other other ladies who are living like nearby goes for breakfast

in the communal food hall, which only runs at a certain time. You can't have late breakfast in Neom. You just can't. No brunch in Neom. She then goes to Tabuk Park Mall, which has a Timberland, an H&M, and also a supermarket where you can buy dried fruit, which I guess you can have if you miss breakfast. The three things that you can do with your afternoon in Neom, just sort of gently interspersed with the sounds of construction workers falling off the line. The Saudis trying to appeal to like Westerners to go somewhere. It's kind of like when husbands

buy their wife that they hate, like a present for a birthday and it's like, well, I bought her sexy lingerie. It's like, no, that's a present for you. And similarly they're like, right. Well, uh, what are, what are Westerners like? Presumably the things we like the Bugatti store, uh, the dried fruit store. Also, it is funny that they're like, oh yeah, Neom's going to have like all kinds of, it will be shopping and dining like you've never seen. And the shopping and dining they've been able to pull off so far is a normal mall

with an H and M and a food hall that's not always open. She visits McDonald's for lunch before doing some shopping for her children. As she heads home, the coach passes a sign because this is all with buses that says, I heart Neop. I wouldn't be surprised if any of these people are being paid to make these videos. 100% Because that's how you have to get the word out, right? It's like they need to juice the city. They need influencers to make these videos. Oh, 100% they're gonna pay. Cause that's how you have to get the word out, right? Yeah. It's like, they need to juice the city. They need influencers to make content. Wait until Annalise Dodds gets a free trip

to the dried fruit store in Neom. Look, my kids really wanted to go to Lulu's, the dried fruit store in Neom, and they have the world's best H&M. So I'm sorry, but I had- My kids are big fans of Neom. I had to let them keep bonesawing people. What do you want me to do? Not show my kids Neom or Sindala? In another clip, Ada shows herself

visiting the supermarket after feeling bored, before later going to a friend's apartment block, traveling through on the back of a motorcycle taxi through empty streets. It's like living in Pyongyang, except you don't even have the benefit of the Juche idea. You just have Saudi bullshit. Except Pyongyang is more organic. It's like living in Ashgabat, maybe. So it's elsewhere, another mother, Sarah Sid, who appears to be friends with all of the other mumfluencers, they're all friends together.

Because there's like five people there. Because they're all in fight club just to feel alive Getting ostracized from the like neon wives has got to be like a heart of fall than anything social death Yes, oh like you might as well just walk into the desert at that point If you get snubbed at the one H&M, it's over Well another momfluencer Sarah said, showed her followers what her average day looks like, which often included two visits to Starbucks. You know, you know the episode of the Simpsons where they move to Hank Scorpio's evil town and Marge has nothing to do? Yes.

It feels like we've really like torment Nexus the fuck out of that. But no wine! True! exist the fuck out of that. But no wine. Just raw dogging that shit. It is alarming how sort of uncanny life can feel so quickly when you're watching someone try to make something genuinely excrucible look aspirational. Yeah. It's, it really made it apparent to me that Neom is basically a little Israel for Rhodesians and Canadians, like the most

inbred white people that the West has to shove them out into the Saudi desert in exchange for their labor. They're displacing people. They gave three guys the death penalty for trying to stop the development. It's insane. In like two generations, there's going to be a desert people made, descended from white women who have been exiled from the... Who farted at Starbucks and had to do the long walk. Yeah. Like the blue-eyed, red-haired people in Afghanistan who were supposedly descended from like Alexander's legions. Exactly.

How did you know to put the Minnie Mouse charm on your Stanley Cup? Seemed the right way. The Lisanne Alp guy. They were Zin Sunni wanderers. But we weren't here to talk about Zins being for girls or Alps being for boys or whether or not you can take bribes if you really, really feel like it or Larry Ellison, like loosely riffing out plans to start Omni-Com or even the new lost tribe of suburban white women being sort of created in neon. Yeah. Now the episode begins 57 minutes. Oh yeah. That's the thing, right? When Ben and I were talking about planning this episode, we were like, okay, we talked about the Q-pilled cartoonist last time. This time, it is unthinkable that we do anything other than talk about the new norm. We were so excited to watch the new norm and talk about the new norm. And it was

going to be great. However, Ben, can you please explain what the new norm is to people who may not know and the sum total of the creative output of the new norm? So the new norm is a sitcom. It's sort of a riff on all in the family. That's only exclusively on X, the everything app. So it can compete with a real sign of quality. Oh, it's top, top notch. It's I guess, Elon.

It's not even Elon. It's Rubin. Dave Rubin is trying to make X into something to compete with a streaming platform or even YouTube. And they premiered the new norm, which is their animated non woke show. It's straight out. It's 100% out to the show. It's out for people who like Alf. Uh, and for people who like out and, uh, it, all they have, all they have to show for all their work is a three minute forty second mini episode

and it's really bad. I don't even know how much I want to get into the plot synopsis because it's just like the rambling gobbledygook. There's a lot of lore, you know? The deep lore of the new norm. It's a very like intertextual thing, you know, most people aren't going to get it. Everyone thinks that the new norm prequels were bad, but then the new norm rebooted sequels were even worse.

The rebuilds. It's a lot like a Yorgo Santhimos movie. The new norm exists in a kind of like nightmarish hyper reality. You know, posting on Reddit, like, will I understand the new norm if I've not seen all of the board ape animation shorts? If I haven't seen the old norm, will I know the new norm? So what I think is also really funny is it's like the new norm essentially seems to be

like someone looked at Mr. Burcham and was like, what if we did a knock off of that? What if we did the worst that? So I don't want to get to like, I don't think actually what's in the new norm episode is all that interesting. So I think it's pretty interesting, which is that he has an ankle bracelet for not being woke and then he's like, oh, I wish I could just have a beer. But then what he is served is gender beer. He serves gender beer, the beer with a gender.

They're still so mad about the Bud Light thing. Yeah, how? I don't know. I genuinely don't know. I get that seeing a trans woman is a life-changing experience for people, but I really wish it wasn't sometimes. RILEY The thing I thought was so funny about it, I guess, is that... so he has the ankle bracelet, and then he has a device that monitors everything he says, and then when he says what are supposed to be the jokes. Yeah, that's just Oracle. That's Larry Ellison. It says, yes, the Oracle.

And it says, offensive, offensive. When he says kind of like mild, mildly unwoke things. I love how the cultural wing of this right-wing alliance is like, I hate everything that's happening. And then the actual financial side of this right-wing international conspiracy is like, Hey, let's build Larry Ellison into your house to arrest you for doing for making gender joke. No, what we did is we is like a woke sniper sniped us in into Larry Ellison's lip. And now Omni-Com is making everyone woke. Unfortunately, gender beer. Basically, it's like it's three

minutes and 40 seconds of like crap crap animation's three minutes and 40 seconds of like- Crap. Crap animation. Yeah, three minutes and 40 seconds of like gender beer over and over and over again. And a laugh track, which is like the most offensive thing for a- Like, you have to add this level of completely unbelievable facade on top of it. This artifice of the laugh track to let you know that it's funny. I did like Chaz, the non-binary masked person who is assigned by the government to basically re-educate New Norm.

Yeah, Norm's punishment. That's going to be a huge dynamic. That's a huge dynamic of this show going forward. They go out into the world, they go do something. Chaz is going to be rattling off what's problematic and new Norm is gonna have to just take it. Maybe in the end they're gonna figure out they're not so different after all. That would be great. That would actually be right.

More in common. Yeah. But Chaz is also supposed to be a member basically of the Deep State, that the state itself is conspiring to break down Norm at the end in one of the worst animated sequences in the whole thing. They're like, we were so close to like having immigrants come and give everybody gender. All that's standing in the way of our plan is one crotchety old guy voiced by a flat earth YouTuber. Living rooms are now battlefields. Yeah, we need to dedicate the entire resources of the world's largest globe-striding empire

to bothering and annoying this one guy. And then of course, as you say, there's no small amount of AI that has gone into making the new norm, which if anything is slightly more interesting than anything they say. Yeah, the show I don't find interesting at all because it's like, it's 10 cent jokes. They go really fast. It's paint by numbers. I'm sure Dave Rubin is very proud of himself for having written in quotation marks this. But a lot of AI is used in production. Like sometimes they'll cut to a novel background and I can tell

I have the eyes for it that it's an AI background. And then I'm not entirely sure that the characters weren't designed by AI. I found the character designer who is this guy named Yariv Newman, who is a crazed rabid Zionist in LA. And I was able to find a bunch of articles he wrote and his most recent article he wrote for a Jewish foundation and media project. The name of the article is Top Gun Maverick, Three Jewish Takeaways. I mean, a lot of rabbis have been arguing about the meaning of Top Gun Maverick for hundreds of years. I don't know what this guy's going to contribute. How can it, how can it in begin our understanding of the Torah Top Gun? Danger zone, how much is too much?

understanding of the Torah Top Gun. Danger Zone, how much is too much? So I'm not like this guy. I looked at a bunch of his work. He is like a D list production designer. His company designs yachts for billionaires, but then those yachts are never built. It's just like a concept designer at a science fiction company. And I'm sure that there's some sort of intersection between him and the right wing griftopia that is happening in California with the Daily Wire and Dave Rubin and all these guys. What's that guy's Larry Elder and a zinist you said, right?

Major zinist. He's gacked up on Zin. And so I'm not sure that this guy didn't just run it in AI. And most of the new norms output is actually just the Twitter feed of the new norm. They've made very few episodes, but they have made quite a few posts. Listen, I mean, she amongst us, who has never started a new creative project that just kind of turned into Twitter, cast the first stone, you know? I honestly think that that's part of what happened here is they did the first episode and they were like, that was hard. Maybe we can just keep milking the audience we have for engagement, hoping that they can

get something going. They have quite a bit of engagement to be fair. Well, it's all about selling MyPillow with the 20% off code NORM at mypillow.com. I'm not being paid for that, but it's in their Twitter bio and all this. They must have a sponsorship or an alliance with them. How many right wingers, culture warriors who care about this stuff, who care about MyPillow.com shit, haven't they? They've definitely purchased all their pillow and mattress needs by now.

This guy's been going for years and years, right? Like how many how many more pillows can they sell? The new junior minister for business innovation and skills in the UK was quoted as saying, no, you don't understand. My kids really wanted a my pillow. When you look at it mostly, it's just like the new norm characters superimposed over like libs of TikTok clips being like, Hey, it looks like it's the Democrat party who's weird. And then like that's

the Democrats are doing a gender. Yeah, essentially. It's very ambitious though. Yeah. To be like, well, we've taken our show. We wanted to do our like, you know, Mr. Purcham to Dave Rubin. And then we're going to take our characters that everyone loves, like Norm and Charlie, and we're going to have Norm finally come out against shooting the president. Because I think my favorite post they've ever done was just a picture of Sad Sack Norm standing next to like a Ben Garrison looking Trump that just, and it just says, stop shooting the president. I was going to do it. I was going to do it. They convinced me.

They didn't even start. Come on. No one can hit a guy. I love it. This one is interesting because the Trump to me is very clearly and obviously AI, but it's not cleaned up. Like the other ones are clean. What I suspect they did is that their actual order was like, we want to make as much AI content for this as possible. I think this was designed intentionally around sort of an AI pipeline. So the characters were designed with AI by the Zierev Newman guy. And this Trump one is just a character design that hasn't been cleaned up and rigged for Toon Boom animation.

Yeah. The Trump here is really serving Gary Busey. Yes. Big Busey vibes from Trump here. Big, big Busey vibes. Big Busey vibes. Big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, heat off of the cats and dogs thing either, which is like, really, this is an ecosystem that's designed for you to

do this. They tried to get cheap heat off of the Israeli pager assassinations, which is to me deranged. But I guess that the Alp eaters out there love that story. The Alp-garrhythm. Serves the rep to us on a daily basis. I can, I mean, now that I'm in norm mode, I'm seeing in my head, as you say this, oh, the pager attack, the Haitian slander in Ohio, I can start to see norm and Chaz react in my head.

Good material. Which shows the life of them as characters. They're brilliantly fleshed out. Well, it's part of the extended Normiverse really. By the way, you know how you can tell that Trump is AI is because he has rosy cheeks? And AI, one of the best ways to tell, because now AI is pretty good at making, not have people have six fingers if you correct it. Yes.

People know to correct it now. But one thing AI does is it always, always, always, always gives people flushed cheeks because it's picking up on light, unlike camera light mostly. So they're always a little bit lighter. And it loves to take the buccal fat out of the face too. That's how you can tell. Something else that I did is I also went deep on the production. Something I love doing is reverse engineering the production of animated shows and seeing who does what. Where did they send it? Because no American productions are made by Americans. They do not have the patience or the budgets to pay themselves, so they ship it

overseas. And so I think the storyboards were done stateside, but then I looked up the animators. I'm not gonna dox them, cause I found out where they are, where they live, but I was able to put it together that it's the exact same animation studio as Mr. Burcham. ALICE Oh my god. ALICE There's like a clearing house of anti-woke animation somewhere. RILEY Yeah, so studio, I have actually gotten in touch with them in the past, when I was talking about Mr. Birdship on Chapo, and I have learned a lot about this studio. It's called Wise Blue Studios, and they're based in a tax haven in Valencia, Spain.

So this whole thing is partially, maybe a money laundering operation. Where they're getting a huge tax break. They get a, they get a, like a 30% tax credit on the first million and then 25% tax credit on the second million euros that come into it. That's about 1.1 million US for US listeners who don't know how much a euro is. That means that, and this is going to sound like a stretch, but then I'll explain it. The Falun Gong have put a million dollars into this because Larry Elder, who's the underwriter of this thing, I know for a fact it has been disclosed that he, during his failed political run, was given a million dollars by the Falun Gong. So I'm really feeling as though this might be part of an international conspiracy of finance

to produce low grade American propaganda with heavy use of AI to push down Western European wages. Prove me wrong guys. Well, and then you get, you engage the audience with new norm content and you get them all to put in their address, email, you know, home address, credit card information through mypillow.com, 20% off with the code norm as I keep mentioning, I'm not being paid for it. But then there'll be kickbacks later to the people who, like me, who they've contracted. And then they flip the data to their partners at X in Saudi Arabia and then they get you to come to Neon.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Finally, American conservatives can have their Rhodesia. It's just in Northwest Saudi Arabia. No Chaz is allowed in Neom. Also, it's like, I remember when people doing, maybe not money laundering,

but certainly a tax scheme of some sort. Yeah, this is a tax scam. I remember for sure. I remember when that produced Scanners. I remember when that produced like, yeah, like the entire filmography of David Cronenberg for a while. Like that was great. That's like some dentist in Miami would be like,

I don't know, I don't care what you make. I just need to pay fewer taxes so I can buy a boxy Ferrari. Please, David Cronenberg, will you take these millions and make crash, or whatever? And now, now what do we got left? Nothing. No, and we're poorer for it, right? It used to be shared wealth.

The whole idea of international finance is that the wealth is supposed to flow through, but now they're making garbage. Like, I- We used to have, you know, norms in this country, now it's just the new one. New norms not like the old norm. Yeah, we used to have norms, now we just have zins and outs. I like that you caught one of the former workers reviewing, working for Wiseblue, saying, if exploitation were a person, they would rather starve than work here. Greetings to Inhuman Resources.

Yeah. Google Translated, of course. It's Google Translated. Something I really latched onto with this little investigation of the production cycle was something that you guys have mentioned on one of your past episodes is that AI is just getting worse stuff but getting lower paid workers to fix it. And that's 100% what this is, is that Wise Blue is like the lowest quality studio maybe that I've ever found. And their entire thing is just

soliciting investment from people who don't care what their output is and paying the workers as little as possible and using as much garbage AI slop as possible to output it. And it's not, it does not bode well for anyone who wants to like organize themselves into having a decent life. But it does bode well for people who cannot wait to finally see what Norm, Chaz, and Larry get up to as they move through the stories ripped from the headlines. Yeah, I honestly, I don't know if they'll come out with more. Why would they need to? They just have the Twitter feed and the MyPillow code. That's all that matters. I know, they probably have the studio on retainer for the million that the Falun Gong gave them. I'm not even kidding. I do think the Falun Gong are involved in

this. They have them on retainer. Somebody's doing the animation. Why not? Norm before communism. We've gone over time. So I just want to say Matt and Ben is always a huge gas having you guys on the show. It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having us on. Pleasure to be here. Please check out our new book, Justice Warriors guys on the show. It's a pleasure to be here. Hey, thanks for having us on. Pleasure to be here. Please check out our new book, Justice Warriors Vote Harder. It's basically all of these stories, but with good drawings for 144 pages,

and we predicted multiple Trump assassination attempts in the book already. We'll see if we predict him getting cut in half by a sniper from a mile away. Fingers crossed. Norm said stop, so it stopped. But yeah, I think you'll like the book whether you zin or alp. That's right.

It will heal, you know, a divided nation. It is, in a way, it's kind of like the new Norm in that, you know, it talks about what's going on in society, but it's for everyone, it's, it's for everyone and, uh, it's, it's the culture war comic that we need. Yeah. I mean, ultimately I'm just waiting for a comics artist who when approached by someone from the right will reveal a Zin in their lip and when approached by someone from the left will reveal an out. Finally, finally giving us, giving us a neutral comment. That's why you got two lips. One for Zin, one for Alp. That's why God gave you two ears, one mouth, but two lips.

So you can hear both sides and chew both sides. That's right. My new product, Zin-Alp. It's got it all. Matt and Ben, thank you so much for coming on. Justice Warriors 2. Get it wherever you buy books. This is a free episode of TF. We've been running it like a bonus episode, but it's a free episode.

It's had that energy. It's had bonus energy, so, but there will be more bonus episodes. There's another one coming this week. It's gonna be released later this week, so do check that out. Also, it's on Patreon. It's five bucks a month. Do you live in a locality or municipality? Do you care about the mayor? November and Mattie Lepchanski and I have a new podcast about mayors. It's called No Gods No Mayors. We just are about to release,

probably in a couple of days after this episode comes out, the second part of our Rob Ford two-part oaths to Ravaganza. Oh, that's so good. Is the cover photo gonna be the photo of Rob being attacked by the owl? Please make it. I bet your ass it is.

I'm putting a note in the group chat right now. We did a two-parter on Rob Ford of Rob being attacked by the owl. Please make it. I bet your ass it is. I'm putting a note in the group chat right now. We did a two parter on Rob Ford and so much more Rob Ford stuff is out there that we need to do a third one. I was really close to actually when this is a complete aside. I'm wasting everyone's time. But when the Rob Ford crack tape was announced but not released, I was working really hard with a bunch of filmmakers in Winnipeg to create a fake Rob Ford crack tape to release to the media, just in case it never came out.

Left-wing disinformazin. Alright, we gotta go. We gotta go. Also, please buy tickets to my UK tour. It is selling chaotically. Some dates almost sold out. Other dates bad. Leicester, Glasgow, Dundee, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Birmingham, Bath, Bristol, Oxford, Liverpool, Manchester, Chester, Leeds, Taunton. Those are the dates. Come please. Brinton on C. All right. All right. Lincoln. Thanks everybody. Thanks for listening and we'll see you later. Bye. Bye. Bye, gang.