TRASHFUTURE - PREVIEW: EverythingTony Blair All At Once

Episode Date: October 4, 2023

The Tony Blair Institute for Global Regime Change has released their detailed plan of what an ID card for Britain would look like, how it would be implemented, and why... and it involves MI5, the DWP,... and DEFRA getting access to your resting heart rate. Riley, Hussein, Alice, and Milo explore this as well as the totally unforeseen meltdown of GB News and the first days of the most internet poisoned Tory conference ever. If you want access to our Patreon bonus episodes, early releases of free episodes, and powerful Discord server, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture  *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here: https://www.tomallen.media/ *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s upcoming live shows here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm so glad I get to be the one who tells you the name of the slogan of the Tory conference for the first time long term decisions for a brighter future Yeah, with like what six months left in office if they're lucky cool, okay, I tell you what you know what on this podcast We have spent a long time criticizing Keir Starmer for basically like coming up with stuff that the Tories would do. But finally, the Tories have come up with saying that Kierstarma would do. That is such a fucking Kierstarma. Like, it's so, like, joyless. But even by Tories standards, like, it's the sort of thing that only the Labor Party really typically has the sheer boring
Starting point is 00:00:40 to have. But you need to have the Presbyterian roots of the Labor Party in order to do that. Yeah. I was sort of thinking about this, because it was just like, I know we lament, and I rightfully lament the fact that Starma doesn't say or do anything and it sort of feels like the labor party have no intention of doing anything. And you know, the questioning about whether this is a particularly useful strategy at a time when there are lots of things you can point out and be like, hey, these are obvious wins.
Starting point is 00:01:06 If you point them out and say that things are breaking, this seems to be a good way of doing politics and we've been very frustrated back here, so I haven't been able to do it. But Guy has somehow able, he's been able to do jujitsu, very advanced jujitsu with the concern because like now we don't really know what to say. And I didn't pay much attention to conference speeches,
Starting point is 00:01:29 but I did sort of have a little bit of a look prior to coming on the episode. And what is quite interesting is that they kind of, they sort of reference some about really just as kind of, almost like a side character, right? Like a lot of their fixations are on Cedit Khan. I don't know whether there were any Corbin references this time. Well, like they can't really say anything about an idea, and I do
Starting point is 00:01:49 think it touches something that Milo says, which is like, they are like the fact that Starmer is sort of playing out of the Tory playbook in vice versa. Kind of means that they can't really do us say anything about him. No one does us say anything. He's done the fucking martial mother's approach. So the conclusion actually is, if we're going to stick to Jiu Jitsu, which is the best way of defeating your opponent is to just run around the mat until they get tired. Well, I think what we're seeing is at this conference is that labor has successfully parked its lawn under Tory tanks. Yeah. So actually quite impressive.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Long-term decisions for a brighter future when another part of the multi-hundreds of billions of dollars of railway expansion is also canceled. That's a perfect long-term decision. Yeah, great. What was it funding going to be reallocated to? They just said priorities. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:42 What do people have to say? I have to say? Yeah. I like this kind of when you get to a stage in politics where no one will say anything anymore, including to the point where they just reduce it to sort of it's almost like talking in politics algebra. Like this funding will be reallocated to, and then in square brackets, block capital's priorities,
Starting point is 00:03:03 as though there was supposed to be some kind of mail merge function, which was gonna insert an actual thing in there, but they just haven't done it. It said local transport priorities, but didn't say what any of them were. Like, yeah, they might just release a statement saying, we are reallocating funding from bad thing you hate to good thing you like.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And then people are like, yeah, I support that. So I don't want to go into sort of the individual speeches because I, when you look, most of what they actually talk about is quite ephemeral. It's sort of, they're, they're trying to, I think this is something you said else earlier, they're trying to find which tale is going to wag the dog. And they've just sort of thrown everything at the wall, this conference. Well, sort of all of the, all of the sort of Tory factionalism we've been talking about, we've seen that in various side shows as various parts of the past, who set out their stall about what it
Starting point is 00:03:50 should be. So the thing that struck me was Miriam Cates, this back venture, she was the one who went hard on the Transphobia stuff. And so at one of these fringe events, she was like, yeah, probably I reckon that people are trans because of trans porn, putting young people into the trans arena. The arena. The trans? The arena. The oxagon. Join me, Mr. Chappon, the trans arena. I just, the thing is, right, like I would not be transphobic, right? If I looked like a justified rob Beckett. But there we go.
Starting point is 00:04:32 M-boys of the Colosseum. Yeah. And that was such classic. Yeah. The other thing I noticed as well, right, is in addition to sort of the side shows, is the 15-minute cities are a bigger villain than Starmer or sort of the memory of Corbyl. Yeah, that was the one that took off right was was talking about 15 minutes this is because soon I've been sort of like casting around for his thing and like it it's this really idiosyncratic
Starting point is 00:04:59 mix of policies and sort of some of which might appeal to some people but together don't amount to much of a vision. He gets to do whatever he wants, and whatever he wants turns out to be like, maths at A level, and you have to drive now. But 15-minute cities, that's an actual conspiracy theory that people can blow them onto and have. And so if you're gonna present that as fact,
Starting point is 00:05:24 that's, well, it's a huge win for the, like, lunatic fringe, but it's also like, there's something there as opposed to just driving. We're going to investigate what really happened with the moon landing. So they may as well have done legitimate. Mark Harper, the transport secretary said, Tories will stop the quote, misuse of 50 of fifty minute cities what is sinister is the idea of local councils deciding how often you can go to the shops so it's not even like a
Starting point is 00:05:50 it is in its full it is most in its most face book manifestation it is now being taken seriously as an idea something that is idea of something that is happening the front bench how did we go this was this was a back bencher being roundly mocked for talking about this like three months ago. And now, right now, if there is, there is, it's a common enough front bench line. And what I know is going to happen
Starting point is 00:06:15 because I know how this country's media works, is that there's going to be a panel after panel on question time, BBC, whatever, where because of balance, they're going to have to invite someone on who says, well, maybe it is reasonable that the government is going, that all the, that sort of anything to do with net zero, anything to do with a modal shift away from cars blah, blah, blah. All of that actually is to do with controlling how often you can leave your sector and so on. And they're going
Starting point is 00:06:38 to have to take it seriously like it might be true. So all it's, well, on the one hand, it's very amusing that all of these very worthy people are going to basically have to like continue going down into like the Facebook forechan morass and muck, you know, your sort of matelesses and pestins and stuff. They're going to have to take it seriously. And that's funny to me that they have to do that. The problem is that all of the people who make all of the decisions about what happens with our lives also have to take that seriously now. No one's exempt from posting, I'm sorry, to say that. Today on LBC, we're talking about all the government planning to do Logan's run on you.
Starting point is 00:07:14 We have a number of Professor Strong Oxford on here who say, what does that mean? But we also have Barry in South End who says he thinks that's Bullocks and the crystal in his hand is glowing already. It's for the whole interpretation, right? That it get this fossil fuel company backed interpretation. If you look at the episode we did about an NFT from the long against as fast if we remember the the episode we did with Annie Kelly about the 50-minute city conspiracies, right? They're basically coming from an F.T. from fossil fuel funded
Starting point is 00:07:49 think tanks. The most extreme crazy version of them is now landed on the Tory right and now taken root in the Tory mainstream, which means it's now just has to be taken seriously. Yeah, it's cool, isn't it? I'm a big fan of this, actually. It's very normal. It's indicative of a healthy society which in my view is not in decline. Yeah, of course. We can also draw that. You just draw that line, right, which is even like
Starting point is 00:08:16 is unwillingness to stick with whether or not you agree with the internal combustion engine ban, right? The government had that in place that we're going to sort of stop selling nuke and cars internal combustion engines after a certain date. And then because he didn't know what else to say, just abandoned it. And now all the car companies are pissed off because all of their investments that they made are that they're planning to make, they now have to replant. And so it's that you get so wrapped up in culture war, you get so wrapped up in trying to
Starting point is 00:08:49 war. You get so wrapped up in trying to in the sort of the mad cow cycle of Facebook media policy basically. Some mad cow soccer when I've got me wife and me mothering law on it me at the same time. I remember I'm alright. I'm alright. That is when you got, but the this sort of let's say right wing media to Facebook group back to right wing media thing, right? And then and then policymakers because because and I think actually this is because there is no Corbin, right? Because there is no one offering something substantive, only everyone offering kind of different brands of the same insubstantial mess, you're able to dip your hand into that diet eats and mess. Yeah, you're able to dip your hand into that diet, eat and mess. You're able to dip your hand into that stream, that circular, that human centipede output. And then just drink from it and your eyes glow black and you just say, we the government
Starting point is 00:09:36 are going to stop other parts of the government from imprisoning you in your home, which they were definitely going to do. Drinking from the puddle. definitely going to do.

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