TRASHFUTURE - PREVIEW: My Dinner with Elon

Episode Date: November 8, 2023

Rishi Sunak gives a masterclass in real, genuine laughter while essentially having a post-politics job interview with Elon Musk for a crowd of AI longtermists... also, we discuss the sudden groundswe...ll of "you can't protest for peace on ARMISTICE day!" that has swept Britain's commentariat and political classes.   If you want access to our Patreon bonus episodes, early releases of free episodes, and powerful Discord server, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture   Medical Aid for Palestinians: www.map.org.uk   *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast   *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/   *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s upcoming live shows here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows   Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The films villain is a sentient and rogai known as the entity that sinks a submarine and kills its crew in the movie's opening minutes The entity it's running around no one could stop it. Why is that why why is the US military unable to stop a computer? I could stop a computer right now. It like takes out a laptop and closes it look at me I stopped it and then everyone's just like cheering wildly And he said pathetic they can't even stop a computer. Okay, maybe, if they got to stop a computer, what are they gonna do with Iran? Yeah, he's gonna, I like the idea that it's that Joe Biden watches Mission Impossible Dead Rekiting
Starting point is 00:00:34 and it's like, we gotta stop the computer from sinking the submarines. Trump watches the movie AI and then sees the carnival of the people destroying the AI and is like, that's good. That's show this. We're going to have that someday out. So yeah, a key point. So this is some of the from the American sort of regulation I will sort of read from here.
Starting point is 00:00:56 And this is only in contrast to what the British government is pushing. So the they say that they wish to use, ensure fairness or the criminal justice system, which indicates, however, that they want to use AI and aspects of the criminal justice system, which is concerning, as well, they want to say advance the use of AI and healthcare and the development of affordable life saving.
Starting point is 00:01:23 The AI is going to roll to the pizza for the jury in future because the arguments are getting too nasty. Yeah, which is, again, that's one of the things that it's actually useful for. Also, they say, shape AI's potential to transform education by creating a resource to support educators to playing AI-enabled educational tools to just personalize tutoring. And again, that sort of indicates that most services, most people interact with are going to be made cheaper and worse by being automated. So if you are someone who is like over-policed, you're going to have an AI, do you're like
Starting point is 00:01:58 risk assessment. If you're someone who's in a state fund, an underfunded state school in the US, as well as here, chances are, the standards that will be set for teaching quality, for example, might say, well, one teacher can have a maximum of like, I don't know, 25 children in the class. However, if each of those children has a personal AI tutor, then the teacher
Starting point is 00:02:19 is actually just there to answer questions and most of the learning is gonna have between the child and the AI, which means they can have 50 students in a class. Right? These are the kinds of things that I think that would enable that are much more worrying to me than world ending, for example. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It's a classic democratic position. If we want to talk about democratic, or probably like a labor position, because we've seen what the Tony Blair Institute's Stenographs to Kier Star stormer like this is pretty common between the two is that D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D make services better for cheaper without considering that it will also inevitably make the services worse. Because one of the things that is, that an actual human teacher does is socialize the people that they're supposed to be teaching. And an AI relaying you facts is not going to socialize you. Right, and that was just the thing.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Now we're working on the AI that can socialize you, but it's Elon Musk doing the sarcastic AI, so it can socialize you into a dipshit. Yeah, I love that they trained it for two months as well. They have created a pretty bad AI, those main thing, and that Elon Musk even said it's based actually. It's biased. It's biased.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah. Oh, mom, mom, I tell Andrew Musk, biased? Yeah. Oh, I'm Andrew Moss. I can't do accents. Don't bother me. No, that is. What have you been growing? That is. Good evening.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Grimes walking to a divorce settlement. No, it's very funny to me that he was like, well, all the other AIs are woke, but also aren't snarky. So we're going to do basically like a, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to,
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Starting point is 00:04:31 I mean, it's a more honest kind of like AI interaction than any of the kind of social responsibility ones. Yeah. Yeah, it's the Australian customer service AI. Yeah, it's older than Apple pieOS, no worries, can't. Yeah, but I just love that they were like, oh yeah, this is available for like Twitter X Premium users. By the way, we only trained it for like, yeah, two months
Starting point is 00:04:55 on all like, MGUR 9GIG comments. Right, yeah. So, and that's what we're gonna, that's what, and then the kids in school, they're gonna be able to, to turn the AI From based to woke, and then it will be either Elon Musk's nine-gag GROC AI, or it will be a laymold Chatchy PT that just won't tell you how to make cocaine. I think actually that would be like a very, a very like instructive experiment
Starting point is 00:05:23 If you could like have an AI doing the same task and you could slowly rotate it through the settings from like fully woke to fully based and like see what the differences were. You know, like, and I think I would be interesting to see what like fully based is. It's like, it's like speaking in like Jamaican patois but in like a Chinese accent and every other word is a slur.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But it's still fundamentally giving you instructions on how to make a pecan buy. So that's your bit we came up with the other day. It's like a guy who's like Che at Hanks who's just like desperate to be Jamaica and just like loves Jamaica and talks like a Jamaican, but for like being Chinese. Yeah, and that guy's accent would sound like... Yeah, look, we're not going to do the voice, but it's funny to imagine the guy. Uh-huh. Have you just accidentally invented the, um, the YouTube genre of white boys,
Starting point is 00:06:11 Sharks Chinese restaurant owner with perfect Fuyjani? That's a white boy Sharks Chinese restaurant owner with perfect crack recipe. Also, they talk about, um, develop principles and best practices to mitigate the harms and maximize the benefits of AI for workers addressing job displacement, labor standards, workplace equity, health, safety, and data collection. But again, we know what that position is, whether it is third-way labor right as advocated by the Tony Blair and Stuart Kierstamer, etc. Which we have seen them advocate
Starting point is 00:06:45 for this before. For a second, I misheard that as the Tony Blair Institute of Kierstahmer, which the Kierstahmer Institute, they've got, they've got them in like a tank in the basement. They're like, rowtacing them in there. They're developing like advanced stahmer studies. Yeah, they've got a whole team just working on the head. What white boy shocks Chinese restaurant owner with perfect Kierstahmer studies. Yeah, they've got a whole team just working on the head. What white boy jokes Chinese restaurant only with perfect
Starting point is 00:07:07 Keir Starmer impression. Uh, do you how? I would, I would like a double 72. I would like a kung-pong chicken. A sort of pepper chicken. I would, I would perhaps, if you consider it appropriate, I would go for a Mongolian. I would perhaps, if you consider it a pro-prote, I would go for a Mongolian boy. I think, look, I've looked at the 14 year old boy you've got working in the kitchen, and I have deduced that he probably makes an excellent Mongolian boy.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I would also take a spring roll, but vegetable, because it is important to get some fiber. In this situation, you're the white boy. Yeah, shocking the Chinese restaurant owner with a perfect cure starter. And the restaurant is like, his guest arm is very good. And then he should be eating, he should be it should be me eating Chinese doing Kistama, but I'm eating a
Starting point is 00:07:58 Chinese with that guy who says boss on TikTok. And he's always at the Chinese. For the outlay of one succulent Chinese meal on a phone tripod, we have your next TikTok done for you. Yeah, there we go. So I'll say at the end about the AI executive order before going to what we really want to talk about, which is Rishi Sunak interviewing Elon Musk. Elon, hi. That's sort of what it was.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I like it. So, I can't. So, which is they said also they were producer report about AI's potential labor market impacts and study and identify options for strengthening federal support for workers' favor, facing labor disruption. But when I was saying before we got to that tangent was that we know what that is, which is basically nothing. Right?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Oh, okay, yeah, go. Which is basically nothing. Right? Okay, yeah, go ahead. Which is basically nothing because when these investigations are drawn up, they'll be consulting with Sam Altman. They'll be consulting with Google. And they might consult with some unions, but ultimately what they are going to do because they want to do this to be an innovation-friendly framework, is they are going to say yes rather than no to the implementation and furtherance of using AI for automated management and de-skilling throughout the value chain. The thing is, if the US doesn't let AI do whatever it wants or whatever the people who want to use it
Starting point is 00:09:21 want, then China might do it instead, and then they might find themselves shocked by a perfect Chinese AI. Chinese boy shocks white restaurant owner with perfect kiss-drama impression. But is that like someone who owns a sort of natural wine place in New place in New England.

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